RE: [saligaonet] Life is not fair, get used to it
Interesting how these "spoofs" keep resurfacing from time to time on the Internet, sometimes in the strangest of places. Bill Gates never made this speech (not that the advice in it is bad, though). It's actually the work of Charles J. Sykes, author of the book "Dumbing Down Our Kids: Why American Children Feel Good About Themselves But Can't Read, Write, Or Add." Somebody attributed it to Gates once (perhaps because of "Rule 11: Be nice to nerds"??!!), posted it on the Net, and it's been accepted as Gospel since. Another such urban legend is the "Sunscreen Speech" attributed to Kurt Vonnegut Jr as the commencement address he gave at MIT (he in fact did no such thing). Some years ago I'd devoted one of my columns to this topic and perhaps some of you might like to read it at http://www.timescomputing.com/2112/cch1.html While this particular hoax is rather harmless, there could be times when the information is damaging or even dangerous. So be sure that you take advice only from legitimate, credible sources on the Net--especially when it's of a medical/finacial/personal nature! Cheers - Val This is what Bill Gates said in his speech delivered at Mt. Whitney High School at Visalia, California. Love him or hate him, he sure hits the nail on the head with this speech! He talks about how feel- good, politically correct teachings created a generation of kids with no concept of reality and how this concept set them up for failure in the real world. _ Contact brides & grooms FREE! http://www.shaadi.com/ptnr.php?ptnr=hmltag Only on www.shaadi.com. Register now! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--W-E-B--S-I-T-E--=-=-=-=-=-= To Subscribe/Unsubscribe from Saligaonet | http://www.goacom.com/saligao_tinto/ * Send e=mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NOT [EMAIL PROTECTED]) * Leave SUBJECT blank <--- Commom Mistake !! * On first line of the BODY of your message, type: subscribe saligaonet YOUR.EMAIL OR unsubscribe saligaonet YOUR.EMAIL Questions/Problems? Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[saligaonet] Msg from Fr Nascimento re Antonio Sebastiao Remedios
Dear Saligaonetters Fr Nascimento Mascarenhas has asked me to pass on this message (below) to Saligaonet and also re-post his earlier mail on Mr Antonio Sebastiao Remedios who celebrates his 108th birthday today. The re-post is in the next message. Regards - Val --- "Fr. Nascimento Mascarenhas wishes Mr. Antonio Sebastiao Remedios a happy 108th birthday. May God bless you always and live to celebrate many more happy birthdays. He joins the family members and Saligao folks in wishing Mr. Remedios God's choisest blessings on this great day of the feast of St. Joseph. He will remember Mr. Remedios at his mass at St. Andrew's Church, Vasco da Gama, Goa." --- _ Contact brides & grooms FREE! http://www.shaadi.com/ptnr.php?ptnr=hmltag Only on www.shaadi.com. Register now! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--W-E-B--S-I-T-E--=-=-=-=-=-= To Subscribe/Unsubscribe from Saligaonet | http://www.goacom.com/saligao_tinto/ * Send e=mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NOT [EMAIL PROTECTED]) * Leave SUBJECT blank <--- Commom Mistake !! * On first line of the BODY of your message, type: subscribe saligaonet YOUR.EMAIL OR unsubscribe saligaonet YOUR.EMAIL Questions/Problems? Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[saligaonet] Antonio Sebastiao Remedios - 108 not out
This mail re-posted at the request of Fr Nascimento Mascarenhas: SALIGAO MAN MR. ANTONIO SEBASTIAO REMEDIOS 108 YEARS NOT OUT (1896) Among the centenarians from Saligao whom I had a chance to meet and watch their performance from close quarters were Fr. Estevao Luis Gonzaga de Carvalho (Grande Morodd), Mrs. Rita Joaquina D'Souza (Arrarim)and Mr. Luis Caetano Figueiredo(Donvaddo). Today they are no more, yet as Canon Orlando Ribeiro de Santana, ex-Vicar of Saligao says" they lived hectic days of the Portuguese monarchy, right from King Luis I, up to its sudden end in 1910.They were witnesses, though from far, to the troublesome days of King Carlos and his sons Prince Luis Felipe, assassinated with him in 1908 and the unfortunate king Manuel II, who left the throne two years later and fled hurriedly to England where he lived in Richmond and expired in 1932. Then they went through the changes the Portuguese Republic brought to the nation and her colonies. Following the sequence of time they came in contact from 1928 onwards with Dr. Salazar's dictatorship and the prosperity it brought to Portugal, though it was little felt in Goa." Then came the two great world wars , India's Independent in 1947 and its turning into a Sovereign Republic on 26th January, 1950 and other happenings close at home in Goa especially the blockades between Portuguese territory of Goa and India Free India made them dream that Goa would also be freed one day from the Portuguese colonial rule.' Unexpectedly one night the Indian army walked in and they changed overnight their nationality. They went to sleep as Portuguese and awoke as Indians in December, 1961.There were long faces, but also there was the fanfare and joy of something new coming in.' Another personality who watched some of these events from far off Uganda was another Saligonense Mr. Antonio Sebastiao Remedios from Tabravaddo, Saligao. He is still living and is 108 years old. In Saligao he is known as Bostu or A.S. Remedios' while others simply call him Jose (after Sao Jose, as he was born on 19th March). Recently I met him at Mrs. Lucy Cordeiro's residence at Mollebhatt where his daughter Mrs. Maria Severina Remedios Cordeiro alias Rina Cordeiro married to Caridade Cordeiro alias Carey Cordeiro, who besides, taking care of her two sons and one daughter, also looks after all the needs of her father Antonio Sebastiao. After an interview with the centenarian, his close relatives I walked to the Church of Saligao where the Rev. Vicar Fr. Francisco Ataide was kind enough to hand over to me the Registration Book of Baptism of the year 1896 and this is what I found: A child of male sex was solemnly baptized in this Church of Mae de Deus of Saligao on 5th April, 1896 and given the name Antonio Sebastiao Remedios Born at Tabravaddo, Saligao, on 19th March, 1896, he is the legitimate son of S. Anna Michael Remedios( Tabravaddo) and Ritta Carlota Fernandes ( Donvaddo), married in Nagoa Church Paternal grand-parents are Eugenio Sebastiao Remedios and Maria Severina Albuquerque and Maternal grand-parents are Vicente Xavier Fernandes and Maria Angelica Pinto. God-father: Diogo Sebastiao Aleixinho Pinto and God-mother Preciosa Escholastica Cordeiro. The Parish Priest is Fr. Caetano Vicente Rosario(1879-1903)..( Vide Baptism Registration Book, Mae de Deus Church, No.59/1896, page 84). Antonio Sebastiao was married twice . His first wife was Anna Severina Saldanha from Salmona. They got married in 1920.. From this couple three children were born, two sons and a daughter. Napoleao Remedios the eldest was married to late Mina.. He lives in Canada and is 81 years old. The second son is Denise Remedios is married to Anne. He is at Abreu-vaddo, Saligao and is 76 years old while Linda Remedios is married to John Paul Pinto from Nachinola. She was born in 1932 and is in Canada. After his wife's death Antonio Sebastiao got married the second time to Maria Aurora Bonifacia de Souza from Bambordem, Moira in 1961.Of this wedlock they have a daughter Maria Severina Remedios alias Rina married to Carey Cordeiro in 1984. She resides at Mollebhatt. Antonio Sebastiao is the last among the brothers. His eld4est brother is Antonio Francisco Xavier Remedios married Filomena de Souza from Arrarim. She is aunt of Fr. Edwin de Sousa. The second brother is Camilo Remedios. He married Florentina from Arrarim. The third brother is Caetano Paulo Remedios . He married Carmelina Abreu from Chorao. His sisters Clotildes, Lucinda and Josefina were married in Porvorim, Vaddem de Socorro and Moira respectively. Meeting the venerable old man and talking to him was great fun. Lucid in his mind , clear in his speech, he told me that he first went to school at Hortencia Cordeiro's residence in Mollebhatt Then followed his studies at Aula, St. Mary's Boys School at Arrarim and finally at St. Stanislaus in Bandra, Bombay. Whilst in Goa he loved agriculture and worked in the fields. In Bombay hr got a job as a
RE: [saligaonet] children's park in Saligao !
have some grant available. Set up a committee, a fund/bank account and get Saligaokar's living abroad to contribute. I will find all Saligaokar who I know & get them to contribute. While I am unable to get personally involved in the execution of this project, I am fully in support of it. To set the ball rolling, I pledge Rs Twelve Thousand towards the Saligao children's park [to be deposited once a concrete plan is ready and the bank account set up]. Cheers - Val Souza =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--W-E-B--S-I-T-E--=-=-=-=-=-= To Subscribe/Unsubscribe from Saligaonet | http://www.goacom.com/saligao_tinto/ * Send e=mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NOT [EMAIL PROTECTED]) * Leave SUBJECT blank <--- Commom Mistake !! * On first line of the BODY of your message, type: subscribe saligaonet YOUR.EMAIL OR unsubscribe saligaonet YOUR.EMAIL Questions/Problems? Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [saligaonet] Saligaonet is not reaching some of our subscribers...
Please see the list below, and alert them if possible. FN -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] (reason: 550 5.1.1 unknown or illegal alias: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) (expanded from: :include:/var/lib/majordomo/lists/saligaonet) Well, what I could immediately spot in the list was the incorrect address entry for Fr Nascimento. It should be [EMAIL PROTECTED] (rather than 'nacimen') No wonder then that he was wondering why he had been 'bumped off' the mailing-list and had to send his mail for Saligaonet through Annette, Daniel and others! Once the correction is made, hope he'll resume posting his interesting notes and anecdotes frequently! Frederick/Ashley, trust you'll be able to rectify this inadvertent error soon. Thanks and regards, - Val =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--W-E-B--S-I-T-E--=-=-=-=-=-= To Subscribe/Unsubscribe from Saligaonet | http://www.goacom.com/saligao_tinto/ * Send e=mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NOT [EMAIL PROTECTED]) * Leave SUBJECT blank <--- Commom Mistake !! * On first line of the BODY of your message, type: subscribe saligaonet YOUR.EMAIL OR unsubscribe saligaonet YOUR.EMAIL Questions/Problems? Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [saligaonet] India's "first modern artist"
I fully agree with Annette on this. Once you get into this road naming game, there's no end to it--the only fallout will be a whole lot of grief for everyone. Hundreds of productive hours will be wasted on inane deliberations and arguments and it will be impossible to keep everyone happy. Instead, we'd all do well to devote whatever spare time we have to more constructive projects. I'd say leave the naming business to the politicians--they seem to have a lot of time to waste and nothing better to do anyway. Regards - Val Kevin, Rico & like-minded Saligaonkars, Nice & good thoughts, but let them be just that. The various house names are enough & the colloquial names for lanes & bridges - nobody can quibble over them since considerered as inheritance, came down through the ages - he he! But naming streets, roads, lanes & bylanes??? forget it! From past experience, I can tell you that you'll have people (neighbours & friends alike) making verbal mincemeat of each other & a few ashes will be raked in/out - grrh! These are my thoughts after hearing people around Saligao talking & rumbling over names - especially older folks. & we definitely dont want to upset them. The youngsters couldnt care less what is named after whom. Have a nice day! Annette _ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--W-E-B--S-I-T-E--=-=-=-=-=-= To Subscribe/Unsubscribe from Saligaonet | http://www.goacom.com/saligao_tinto/ * Send e=mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NOT [EMAIL PROTECTED]) * Leave SUBJECT blank <--- Commom Mistake !! * On first line of the BODY of your message, type: subscribe saligaonet YOUR.EMAIL OR unsubscribe saligaonet YOUR.EMAIL Questions/Problems? Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [saligaonet] Fr Nasciment's book on Saligao.
Hi everyone! While most of the raw material for a book exists (Fr Nascimento's literary-output is truly voluminous!) there is a need to decide what exactly will go in, what the theme will be, etc, etc. Then there's the editing, photography, design, paper quality and costing decisions, publish-ing, print-ing, distribution plan, etc. We're talking of producing a highly professional volume here, one that every Saligaokar -- wherever in the world he or she may be -- would be proud to possess, read and 'show off'. (Of course, somehow, we also need to give the book a more general appeal, else the printrun would be too small to make the project financially viable). I had already briefly discussed all this with Fr Nascimento some time ago and volunteered to do the editing and provide other requisite professional inputs. However, due to work and other pressures I have not yet been able to devote enough time to this project yet. Now that some interest is forthcoming from othes on the list, we seem ready to take it forward. A project of this nature would involve substantial time and effort. My estimate is about 6-9 months, if we are to do a really good job. I suggest we target release of the book to coincide with the Church feast next May (giving all of us ample time to fine-tune every aspect of the book to perfection). Fr Nascimento, ultimately it's for *you* to decide how *you* would like to proceed. Once you do that, I'm sure we'll all be able to get together and come out with something spectacular. Regards - Val Dear Mario & Muriel, Thank you very much placing your thoughts on Saligaonet. Yes photography is my main corcern . I may ask Dyanita Singh to help me as I know her well. There may be Salikaokars from diaspora willing to support financially the book if it is presented to them in better format and also edit by you, Val etc than what I wrote and use the money for a good purpose and project on Saligao.My contribution is to Saligao and I am only trying to contribute what I received from the village and villagers by way of history, music. etc. God bless you both. Much love, Fr. Nascimento Mascarenhas. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--W-E-B--S-I-T-E--=-=-=-=-=-= To Subscribe/Unsubscribe from Saligaonet | http://www.goacom.com/saligao_tinto/ * Send e=mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NOT [EMAIL PROTECTED]) * Leave SUBJECT blank <--- Commom Mistake !! * On first line of the BODY of your message, type: subscribe saligaonet YOUR.EMAIL OR unsubscribe saligaonet YOUR.EMAIL Questions/Problems? Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [saligaonet] India's "first modern artist"
With the construction of new houses and older ones being sold off, this system may not be sufficient. Directing visitors to unfamiliar areas of the village requires vague references to landmarks and distances usually denoted by the time it takes to get there I'm not recommending having a name for every piggy causeway that exists but celebrating appropriate venues with the names of illustrious villagers. Kevin, your logic is irrefutable and your arguments are well-reasoned. If a majority feels this is a worthwhile project to undertake, so be it. Indeed, my concern was never with the concept itself, but whether spending time and effort on something like this was worth it right now. We've talked about so many projects these past couple of years on Saligaonet, but not a single one is anywhere near off the ground (I'm not blaming any individuals here, but in a way we're all 'collectively' responsible). That's the problem with 'collective' responsibility and 'community' action -- it's so difficult to get off the "collective ass" and actually do something concrete. Everyone talks, but everyone waits for everyone else to raise the first leg! [I humbly accept that I'm one of the worst culprits in this regard]. I guess what we need is a 'project coordinator' -- appointed by consensus for each project -- who would then be responsible and accountable to make sure the project actually gets off the mailing list and into the real world, and gets completed in real time -- with assistance from everyone else who offers to help, of course. Cheers - Val =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--W-E-B--S-I-T-E--=-=-=-=-=-= To Subscribe/Unsubscribe from Saligaonet | http://www.goacom.com/saligao_tinto/ * Send e=mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NOT [EMAIL PROTECTED]) * Leave SUBJECT blank <--- Commom Mistake !! * On first line of the BODY of your message, type: subscribe saligaonet YOUR.EMAIL OR unsubscribe saligaonet YOUR.EMAIL Questions/Problems? Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [saligaonet] project co-ordinator
Thanks, Sanjeev. I guess suitability for co-ordinating a particular project would depend on the person's areas of expertise, location, time availability, etc. Project Co-ordinator - great idea !!! I don't mind volunteering for a project that I can handle. Sanjeev Personally, I would like to volunteer as project co-ordinator for the Saligao Book project. In this case, I think it's for Fr Nascimento to decide whom he would like to have as co-ordinator, and if he feels that someone else (like Mario & Muriel for instance) would be better suited, then I would certainly support them and still help out with the concept and editing as well. I forgot to mention in the previous mail that while a project co-ordinator is expected to be responsible and accountable, I feel that he or she should also be given full authority to take decisions pertaining to the project, once appointed -- even though some others might have differing opinions on the decisions taken. As far as I can recollect, the pending projects that have been talked about on the list are as follows: 1. Saligao Book (authored by Fr Nascimento) 2. Map of Saligao village 3. Children's Park 4. Saligao website (it's been static and unchanged since 1998!) 5. Weekly news snippets from the village 6. Computer Club 7. Fitness Centre 8. Road Naming Please add to this list, share your thoughts, volunteer -- whatever! Best wishes, - Val =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--W-E-B--S-I-T-E--=-=-=-=-=-= To Subscribe/Unsubscribe from Saligaonet | http://www.goacom.com/saligao_tinto/ * Send e=mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NOT [EMAIL PROTECTED]) * Leave SUBJECT blank <--- Commom Mistake !! * On first line of the BODY of your message, type: subscribe saligaonet YOUR.EMAIL OR unsubscribe saligaonet YOUR.EMAIL Questions/Problems? Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [saligaonet] project co-ordinator
Project Co-ordinator - great idea !!! I don't mind volunteering for a project that I can handle. Sanjeev Thanks, Sanjeev. I guess suitability for coordinating a particular project would depend on the person's areas of expertise, location, time availability, etc. Personally, I would like to volunteer as project coordinator for the Saligao Book project. In this case, I think it's for Fr Nascimento to decide whom he would like to have as coordinator, and if he feels that someone else (like Mario & Muriel for instance) would be better suited, then I would certainly support them and still help out with the concept and editing. I forgot to mention in the previous mail that while a project coordinator is expected to be responsible and accountable, he or she should also be given full authority to take decisions pertaining to the project, once appointed -- even though some others might have differing opinions on the decisions taken. As far as I can recollect, the pending projects that have been talked about on the list are as follows: 1. Saligao Book (authored by Fr Nascimento) 2. Map of Saligao village 3. Children's Park 4. Saligao website (it's been static since 1998!) 5. Weekly news snippets from the village 6. Computer Club 7. Fitness Centre 8. Road Naming Please add to this list, share your thoughts, volunteer -- whatever! Best wishes, - Val =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--W-E-B--S-I-T-E--=-=-=-=-=-= To Subscribe/Unsubscribe from Saligaonet | http://www.goacom.com/saligao_tinto/ * Send e=mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NOT [EMAIL PROTECTED]) * Leave SUBJECT blank <--- Commom Mistake !! * On first line of the BODY of your message, type: subscribe saligaonet YOUR.EMAIL OR unsubscribe saligaonet YOUR.EMAIL Questions/Problems? Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [saligaonet] project co-ordinator
I am based in Bombay. That's why I will only be able to take up projects which do not need my continuous physical presence in Saligao. The book project fits into this scheme quite nicely. Meanwhile, I am planning to make more frequent visits to Goa in the next few months (a trip next week is likely) -- I will contact Fr Nascimento independently and seek his advice on how he would like to proceed. Will keep the list updated on whatever transpires. - Val Succinctly put - Val !! Bravo. Now , I think we have reached the limit of managing things in cyberspace. We must meet in person to brainstorm and come to some conclusions and formulate an action plan. I volunteer my office / home as a venue for this meeting. Fred or Val can you please be the convener , fix the date, quorum/ invitees, agenda and venue. Sanjeev office : 2407066, 7 home : 2409935 mobile: 3116638 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--W-E-B--S-I-T-E--=-=-=-=-=-= To Subscribe/Unsubscribe from Saligaonet | http://www.goacom.com/saligao_tinto/ * Send e=mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NOT [EMAIL PROTECTED]) * Leave SUBJECT blank <--- Commom Mistake !! * On first line of the BODY of your message, type: subscribe saligaonet YOUR.EMAIL OR unsubscribe saligaonet YOUR.EMAIL Questions/Problems? Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [saligaonet] Fr. Nasciment's Book On Saligao.
While most of the raw material for a book exists (Fr Nascimento's output is truly voluminous!) there is a need to decide what exactly will go in, what the theme will be, etc, etc. Then there's the editing, photography, design, paper quality and costing decisions, publishing, printing, distribution plan, etc. We're talking of producing a highly professional volume here, one that every Saligaokar -- wherever in the world he or she may be -- would be proud to possess, read and 'show off'. (Of course, somehow, we also need to give the book a more general appeal, else the print run would be too small to make the project financially viable). I had already briefly discussed all this with Fr Nascimento some time ago and volunteered to do the editing and provide other requisite professional inputs. However, due to work and other pressures I have not yet been able to devote enough time to this project yet. Now that some interest is forthcoming from othes on the list, we seem ready to take it forward. A project of this nature would involve substantial time and effort. My estimate is about 6-9 months, if we are to do a really good job. I suggest we target release of the book to coincide with the Church feast next May (giving all of us ample time to fine-tune every aspect of the book to perfection). Fr Nascimento, it's for *you* to decide how *you* would like to proceed. Once you do that, I'm sure we'll all be able to get together and come out with something spectacular. Regards - Val Dear Mario & Muriel, Thank you very much placing your thoughts on Saligaonet. Yes photography is my main corcern . I may ask Dyanita Singh to help me as I know her well. There may be Salikaokars from diaspora willing to support financially the book if it is presented to them in better format and also edit by you, Val etc than what I wrote and use the money for a good purpose and project on Saligao.My contribution is to Saligao and I am only trying to contribute what I received from the village and villagers by way of history, music. etc. God bless you both. Much love, Fr. Nascimento Mascarenhas. - Original Message - From: "anOTHERgoa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2004 1:00 AM Subject: [saligaonet] Fr. Nasciment's Book On Saligao. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--W-E-B--S-I-T-E--=-=-=-=-=-= To Subscribe/Unsubscribe from Saligaonet | http://www.goacom.com/saligao_tinto/ * Send e=mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NOT [EMAIL PROTECTED]) * Leave SUBJECT blank <--- Commom Mistake !! * On first line of the BODY of your message, type: subscribe saligaonet YOUR.EMAIL OR unsubscribe saligaonet YOUR.EMAIL Questions/Problems? Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [saligaonet] project co-ordinator
Hi Project Co-ordinator - great idea !!! I don't mind volunteering for a project that I can handle. Sanjeev Thanks, Sanjeev. I guess suitability for co-ordinating a particular project would depend on the person's areas of expertise, location, time availability, etc. Personally, I would like to volunteer as project co-ordinator for the Saligao Book project. In this case, I think it's for Fr Nascimento to decide whom he would like to have as co-ordinator, and if he feels that someone else (like Mario & Muriel for instance) would be better suited, then I would certainly support them and still help out with the concept and editing. I forgot to mention in the previous mail that while a project co-ordinator is expected to be responsible and accountable, he or she should also be given full authority to take decisions pertaining to the project, once appointed -- even though some others might have differing opinions on the decisions taken. As far as I can recollect, the pending projects that have been talked about on the list are as follows: 1. Saligao Book (authored by Fr Nascimento) 2. Map of Saligao village 3. Children's Park 4. Saligao website (it's been static since 1998!) 5. Weekly news snippets from the village 6. Computer Club 7. Fitness Centre 8. Road Naming Please add to this list, share your thoughts, volunteer -- whatever! Best wishes, - Val =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--W-E-B--S-I-T-E--=-=-=-=-=-= To Subscribe/Unsubscribe from Saligaonet | http://www.goacom.com/saligao_tinto/ * Send e=mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NOT [EMAIL PROTECTED]) * Leave SUBJECT blank <--- Commom Mistake !! * On first line of the BODY of your message, type: subscribe saligaonet YOUR.EMAIL OR unsubscribe saligaonet YOUR.EMAIL Questions/Problems? Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [saligaonet] Fr. Nasciment's Book On Saligao.
While most of the raw material for a book exists (Fr Nascimento's output is truly voluminous!) there is a need to decide what exactly will go in, what the theme will be, etc, etc. Then there's the editing, photography, design, paper quality and costing decisions, publishing, printing, distribution plan, etc. We're talking of producing a highly professional volume here, one that every Saligaokar -- wherever in the world he or she may be -- would be proud to possess, read and 'show off'. (Of course, somehow, we also need to give the book a more general appeal, else the print-run would be too small to make the project financially viable). I had already briefly discussed all this with Fr Nascimento some time ago and volunteered to do the editing and provide other requisite professional inputs. However, due to work and other pressures I have not yet been able to devote enough time to this project yet. Now that some interest is forthcoming from othes on the list, we seem ready to take it forward. A project of this nature would involve substantial time and effort. My estimate is about 6-9 months, if we are to do a really good job. I suggest we target release of the book to coincide with the Church feast next May (giving all of us ample time to fine-tune every aspect of the book to perfection). Fr Nascimento, ultimately it's for *you* to decide how *you* would like to proceed. Once you do that, I'm sure we'll all be able to get together and come out with something spectacular. Regards - Val Dear Mario & Muriel, Thank you very much placing your thoughts on Saligaonet. Yes photography is my main corcern . I may ask Dyanita Singh to help me as I know her well. There may be Salikaokars from diaspora willing to support financially the book if it is presented to them in better format and also edit by you, Val etc than what I wrote and use the money for a good purpose and project on Saligao.My contribution is to Saligao and I am only trying to contribute what I received from the village and villagers by way of history, music. etc. God bless you both. Much love, Fr. Nascimento Mascarenhas. - Original Message - From: "anOTHERgoa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2004 1:00 AM Subject: [saligaonet] Fr. Nasciment's Book On Saligao. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--W-E-B--S-I-T-E--=-=-=-=-=-= To Subscribe/Unsubscribe from Saligaonet | http://www.goacom.com/saligao_tinto/ * Send e=mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NOT [EMAIL PROTECTED]) * Leave SUBJECT blank <--- Commom Mistake !! * On first line of the BODY of your message, type: subscribe saligaonet YOUR.EMAIL OR unsubscribe saligaonet YOUR.EMAIL Questions/Problems? Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[saligaonet] Repeating messages
For some inexplicable reason, the older messages seem to be repeating on Saligaonet. Please ignore. - Val =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--W-E-B--S-I-T-E--=-=-=-=-=-= To Subscribe/Unsubscribe from Saligaonet | http://www.goacom.com/saligao_tinto/ * Send e=mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NOT [EMAIL PROTECTED]) * Leave SUBJECT blank <--- Commom Mistake !! * On first line of the BODY of your message, type: subscribe saligaonet YOUR.EMAIL OR unsubscribe saligaonet YOUR.EMAIL Questions/Problems? Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[saligaonet] Saligao Book: Status Update 1
Hello everyone Please do continue the debate about the location of project co-ordinators. Maybe it will motivate me to move back to Goa :-) Meanwhile, last Sunday (June 20) I met with Fr Nascimento at St Andrew's Church in Vasco. We had a long discussion on how we should proceed with his book on Saligao. We debated on several alternative approaches and the pros and cons of each of them. We made a rough plan outlining the various stages of the project. We also listed down the names of all those whom we would like to rope in for support (based on their areas of expertise) -- some of them would form the core group that would need to meet at stipulated intervals in order to monitor progress and fine-tune plans for the subsequent stages. Based on our discussions, I will be preparing a concept note and initial project plan, as well as a suggested framework for the book structure (from a content perspective). This will be presented to the core group for deliberation and embellishment. Fr Nascimento has suggested that the core group meet in Saligao at the end of July (coinciding with the St Anne's Chapel feast, when he will be spending a couple of days there). Fr Nascimento will be individually contacting all those who have volunteered to help, and inviting some of them who are Saligao-based to be part of the core group. As soon as I am ready with the detailed plan, I will post a summary of it to the list, and keep you all informed of the progress of the project as it moves ahead. Best wishes, - Val P.S.: Sanjeev, I am extremely sorry that our proposed meeting did not materialise, as I got completely tied up with other meetings I had scheduled earlier. I hope I didn't inconvenience you too much -- will make up for it next time! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--W-E-B--S-I-T-E--=-=-=-=-=-= To Subscribe/Unsubscribe from Saligaonet | http://www.goacom.com/saligao_tinto/ * Send e=mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NOT [EMAIL PROTECTED]) * Leave SUBJECT blank <--- Commom Mistake !! * On first line of the BODY of your message, type: subscribe saligaonet YOUR.EMAIL OR unsubscribe saligaonet YOUR.EMAIL Questions/Problems? Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [saligaonet] Illness
Dear Fr Nascimento This is real bad news. Perhaps you have been exerting yourself a little too much with the numerous postings to SaligaoNet these past few days. Please do take complete rest till you feel absolutely well again. Best wishes for a speedy recovery! - Val Dear Saligao Netters, This is to inform you all that this morning after the 2nd mass which I celebrated, my diabetes went very high and it resulted in heart problem. The doctor has curtailed my activities and hence it will not be possible for me to send you Saligao News which I felt could now be taken by some one younger, more energetic and fit and also based in Saligao. The other postings can hold on .till I am better to resume , but when? This time will tell. However I must thank Daniel, Val, Maureen , Nancy, Annette, Zelma and recently Shanon for the encouragement they gave me all this while. My prayers are with all Saliganvkars and God bless you all . Kindly keep the Saligao spirit moving higher. With much love, warm wishes and prayers. Fr. Nascimento Mascarenhas, St. Andrew's Church, Vasco da Gama, 403802. Goa, India.. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--W-E-B--S-I-T-E--=-=-=-=-=-= To Subscribe/Unsubscribe from Saligaonet | http://www.goacom.com/saligao_tinto/ * Send e=mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NOT [EMAIL PROTECTED]) * Leave SUBJECT blank <--- Commom Mistake !! * On first line of the BODY of your message, type: subscribe saligaonet YOUR.EMAIL OR unsubscribe saligaonet YOUR.EMAIL Questions/Problems? Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [saligaonet] Open Air Classroom: Plastic Picking In Saligao.
What a wonderful initiative! Kudos to all the kids and adults who rolled up their sleeves and just did it! It's heartening to note that when people put their minds to it, individuals can still make a difference in this beleaguered world. I think the 'open-air classroom' idea for a hands-on education on environment and ecology is also a super idea. While I cannot be physically present, I would be delighted to support this initiative in any other way that's needed. Muriel & Mario, do let me know. - Val Open Air Classroom: Plastic Picking In Saligao. Inspired and led by senior citizen Jean Kalgutkar, that never-say-die, lone, plastic-picker of Saligao, five junior citizens of Lourdes Convent Saligao - Rohit, Tarika, Shanawaz, Sheetal, Suhail - and one dad began a campaign to rid their village of plastic litter. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--W-E-B--S-I-T-E--=-=-=-=-=-= To Subscribe/Unsubscribe from Saligaonet | http://www.goacom.com/saligao_tinto/ * Send e=mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NOT [EMAIL PROTECTED]) * Leave SUBJECT blank <--- Commom Mistake !! * On first line of the BODY of your message, type: subscribe saligaonet YOUR.EMAIL OR unsubscribe saligaonet YOUR.EMAIL Questions/Problems? Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
