Re: [scifinoir2] African American Football players say they won't work for Rush
I lost alot of respect for Tom Jackson that day. --- On Mon, 10/12/09, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] African American Football players say they won't work for Rush To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, October 12, 2009, 1:22 AM Yeah, i know, i'm jsut saying these guys were paid commentators. Had Limbaugh said that McNabb sucked as a QB, there reactions wouild have been instantaneous and assured. I guess since he went waaay off script they were frozen with indecision, but it still irks me that men known for being so voluble and spontaneous froze at such a key moment. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 9:21:31 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] African American Football players say they won't work for Rush When you are in the moment and not expecting things some people wait for a reaction from the audience before gaining the courage to say anything. Just another WTF??? moment... Remember the Jimmy the Greek incident? One of the most famous quotes on tv The black is a better athlete to begin with because he's been bred to be that way — because of his high thighs and big thighs that goes up into his back, and they can jump higher and run faster because of their bigger thighs. This goes back all the way to the Civil War when during the slave trading, the owner — the slave owner would breed his big black to his big woman so that he could have a big black kid. After that remark his career was pretty much over. On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 6:09 PM, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net wrote: Yeah, but I'm talking about what happened *on* camera. They just sat there and looked at him. Now, granted, they were taken off guard, but guys who can run their mouths all the time to critique athletes and coaches and stuff, I expect to be able to come back quickly. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 8:09:25 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] African American Football players say they won't work for Rush We don't know what happened off camera. The director of the show may have cut their mic or it was edited out completely. That is the danger of tv production. You can alter reality to how you see fit. On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net wrote: Limbaugh is a bigot, pure and simple. I am amazed at ESPN hiring him as a commentator a few years back. And what did he do? Within a short time, claimed the media was being soft on Donovan McNabb just because he was black. I was so pissed at that I almost threw something at the television. To this day i'm not at all clear why they did that. I was also upset that the blacks on the show that day didn't argue with him: they can spend all their time yelling about who was the greatest player in their day, but let that racist rant on like that. At any rate, this is horrible. Of course, as is always the way with this, the mainstream will turn it on us and say so now you want to judge people like this and they'll find some black person who's a member of the NAACP or something, and try to block him from owning a team with whites on it. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 6:05:32 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] African American Football players say they won't work for Rush I couldn't pass this story up. Rush Limbaugh wants to buy the St. Louis Rams, black players say they would boycott the team. I don't blame them at all. http://www.latimes. com/sports/ la-sp-random11- 2009oct11, 0,6499393. story -- Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/mahogany_ pleasures_ of_darkness/ -- Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/mahogany_ pleasures_ of_darkness/ -- Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/mahogany_ pleasures_ of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] Singer Seriously Considering Return to X-Men Movies
I agree unless the storyarch of Brotherhood of Evil Mutants,Dark Phonix and or Sentinals take over America and they return to the past. Anything else is a wasted effort. --- On Sun, 10/11/09, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net Subject: [scifinoir2] Singer Seriously Considering Return to X-Men Movies To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, October 11, 2009, 6:30 PM After the debacles that were X3 and Wolverine: X-Men Origins, I'm not really all that excited about this. Granted, Singer wasn't behind either of those flicks. But you have to feel the studios have big say now (he even says as much in terms of financial clout) and that makes me nervous. Also, after three flicks, I think the excitement of X movies is wearing off me given the choices made in them: Halle Berry as Storm, Ice Man and Rogue too young, key powers changed (Juggernaut, Leech, Callisto), a lackluster Dark Phoenix storyline. The energy and excitement is leaving, and I worry about the ability to make something that's closer to the comics in spirit and less just movie versions. It might be, too, that I'm leery even with Singer returning, because his weak effort in Superman Returns (overly sentimental script, some bad casting) makes me afraid of what he'll bring to a fourth X-Men movie. * * * * * * * http://www.hollywoo dreporter. com/hr/content_ display/news/ e3i30e7feb16ddb0 207ec91e06b9521c bc4?imw=Y Bryan Singer wants more 'X-Men' Director of first two films has discussed return with Fox Associated Press Oct 11, 2009, 09:06 AM ET Bryan Singer is interested in directing another 'X-Men.' (Getty) BUSAN -- Bryan Singer said Sunday he's interested in making another X-Men movie and has discussed the possibility with Twentieth Century Fox. The American director made X-Men and X2: X-Men United, but passed on the third installment so he could make Superman Returns.Rush Hour director Brett Ratner ended up shooting that film, X-Men: The Last Stand. South African filmmaker Gavin Hood made another spin-off, X-Men Origins: Wolverine, which was released earlier this year. I'm still looking to possibly returning to the 'X-Men' franchise. I've been talking to Fox about it, Singer said at a talk at South Korea's Pusan International Film Festival. I love Hugh Jackman. I love the cast, he said, referring to the Australian actor who plays Wolverine. Singer said he enjoyed making science fiction and fantasy movies because they allowed him to discuss serious issues through entertainment. He said the X-Men series, which follows a group of mutants with superpowers who struggle to fit in with humans, is about tolerance and social structures. He said he likes to trick audiences into thinking they're seeing fireworks, but they're learning about themselves and listening to what I have to say. The excitement about working in science fiction and fantasy is — the stories, if they are good, are about the human condition, Singer said. Appearing at a panel discussion with South Korean director Kim Ji-woon, the American director also said he appreciated the creative freedom South Korean filmmakers enjoyed to make the final cut, compared to Hollywood, where directors must negotiate with studio executives. Hollywood movie budgets are so high that the risk is too great to leave it in the hands of a filmmaker, he said, adding that he has a responsibility to help studios feel secure in their investments. Singer made his name with the 1995 critically acclaimed thriller The Usual Suspects but later earned a strong following among comic books fans for his adaptations of popular comic book series.
[scifinoir2] Re: Singer Seriously Considering Return to X-Men Movies
With Cyclops and Phoenix gone and Xavier incapacitated you have Wolverine, Storm, Iceman, Shadowcat, Beast, Nightcrawler, Colossus and maybe Rogue and Angel as viable team members. That's more than enough characters to build a storyline around. Maybe throw in the White Queen or Psylocke to give the team someone with psi-abilities and it works just fine. The Sentinels would be a good addition although the Transformers may have stolen that thunder. I heard that last movie even had a Transformer disguised as a human so that makes the later Sentinel storylines seem like copies of the copy. They need to get away from Magneto as the big bad and introduce someone like Apocolypse as a new and bigger threat. It also would be nice to keep Xavier out of the action until the final act so the team has to fend for itself. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, George Arterberry brotherfromhow...@... wrote: I agree unless the storyarch of Brotherhood of Evil Mutants,Dark Phonix and or Sentinals take over America and they return to the past. Anything else is a wasted effort. --- On Sun, 10/11/09, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... Subject: [scifinoir2] Singer Seriously Considering Return to X-Men Movies To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, October 11, 2009, 6:30 PM  After the debacles that were X3 and Wolverine: X-Men Origins, I'm not really all that excited about this. Granted, Singer wasn't behind either of those flicks. But you have to feel the studios have big say now (he even says as much in terms of financial clout) and that makes me nervous. Also, after three flicks, I think the excitement of X movies is wearing off me given the choices made in them:  Halle Berry as Storm, Ice Man and Rogue too young, key powers changed (Juggernaut, Leech, Callisto), a lackluster Dark Phoenix storyline. The energy and excitement is leaving, and I worry about the ability to make something that's closer to the comics in spirit and less just movie versions. It might be, too, that I'm leery even with Singer returning, because his weak effort in Superman Returns (overly sentimental script, some bad casting) makes me afraid of what he'll bring to a fourth X-Men movie. * * * * * * * http://www.hollywoo dreporter. com/hr/content_ display/news/ e3i30e7feb16ddb0 207ec91e06b9521c bc4?imw=Y Bryan Singer wants more 'X-Men' Director of first two films has discussed return with Fox Associated Press Oct 11, 2009, 09:06 AM ET Bryan Singer is interested in directing another 'X-Men.' (Getty) BUSAN -- Bryan Singer said Sunday he's interested in making another X-Men movie and has discussed the possibility with Twentieth Century Fox. The American director made X-Men and X2: X-Men United, but passed on the third installment so he could make Superman Returns.Rush Hour director Brett Ratner ended up shooting that film, X-Men: The Last Stand. South African filmmaker Gavin Hood made another spin-off, X-Men Origins: Wolverine, which was released earlier this year. I'm still looking to possibly returning to the 'X-Men' franchise. I've been talking to Fox about it, Singer said at a talk at South Korea's Pusan International Film Festival. I love Hugh Jackman. I love the cast, he said, referring to the Australian actor who plays Wolverine. Singer said he enjoyed making science fiction and fantasy movies because they allowed him to discuss serious issues through entertainment. He said the X-Men series, which follows a group of mutants with superpowers who struggle to fit in with humans, is about tolerance and social structures. He said he likes to trick audiences into thinking they're seeing fireworks, but they're learning about themselves and listening to what I have to say. The excitement about working in science fiction and fantasy is â the stories, if they are good, are about the human condition, Singer said. Appearing at a panel discussion with South Korean director Kim Ji-woon, the American director also said he appreciated the creative freedom South Korean filmmakers enjoyed to make the final cut, compared to Hollywood, where directors must negotiate with studio executives. Hollywood movie budgets are so high that the risk is too great to leave it in the hands of a filmmaker, he said, adding that he has a responsibility to help studios feel secure in their investments. Singer made his name with the 1995 critically acclaimed thriller The Usual Suspects but later earned a strong following among comic books fans for his adaptations of popular comic book series.
[scifinoir2] Re: African American Football players say they won't work for Rush
Chastising Marge Schott for having the whitest team in baseball is like calling someone the tallest midget. She had two black starting position players: Eric Davis and Barry Larkin. The current Milwaukee Brewers have exactly TWO everyday starting position players of the negro persuasion: Prince Fielder and Mike Cameron. The Central Division champion St. Louis Cardinals have ZERO African-Americans in their everyday line-up. The New York freaking Yankees have one: Derek Jeter. ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... wrote: During Marge Schott's reign, they had the whitest team in baseball. That quote was from a white announcer that I heard make that quote back in the day. A lot of rich bigots gave to charity but it was probably more of a tax write off than generosity. On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@... wrote: As a devout believer in the redoubtable science of paradox, I suggest that Rush might be the best professional sports team owner, ever. A physical blob himself, Rush secretly adores extraordinary physical specimens - and, like most racists he harbors a grudging respect for supremely gifted black people - plus he LOVES football. Marge Schott, the former owner of the Cincinnati Reds was a conservative troglodyte (and self-avowed Adolf Hitler sympathizer) but her players adored her. She doted on them like a fraternity house mother. And, for the most part, she was a good if frugal owner. Fans praised her efforts to keep ticket and concession prices low. She loved children (she was unable to have any of her own) and always allowed any child in attendance before a home game to come down to the playing field and run to deep center field and back. I think people are remembered for the good things they do when they're gone, Reds shortstop Barry Larkin said. Now that she's gone, they will remember the parties she had to raise money for kids, her involvement with the zoo, her giving to minority programs. She gave to minority programs before her racist comments came out. I, personally, think Fat Rush would be a Mark Cuban type of owner - lavishing luxuries on his overpaid athletic employees - while continuing to spew his racist blather on the radio. And why shouldn't a shameless rodeo clown follow a gold digging showgirl as owner of the St. Louis Rams. Unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on your point of view), Rush would inevitably say something stupid that would get him banned (in the way Schott was banned from running her own team from 1996 through 1998 - she sold the team for a $54 million profit in 1999) from the NFL - which is why his bid may not be approved. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ wrote: Remember that woman that used to own the Reds back in the late 80s early 90s? That was a similar situation. She was just about as bad as rush. I agree with Daryle on the importance of ownership. There should be more teams with black owners. Carmello should buy a couple. On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 4:50 AM, Daryle Lockhart daryle@wrote: Very important to note that such a move would have to be approved by the owners association of the NFL, a board that now includes Venus and Serena Williams. This, friends, is why it's important to focus on ownership instead of being an employee all the time. On Oct 11, 2009, at 7:42 AM, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ wrote: I still don't think it would be total. Too many of these guys are enamored of the money. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVikhttp://www.youtube .com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: HelloMahogany@ Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 04:27:44 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] African American Football players say they won't work for Rush That is possible, but what if it gained momentum? For example, there is pressure from celebs and so on? That is what I am hoping. On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 4:19 AM, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ wrote: Mr Worf, Ed Schultz had Stephen A Smith on his show last week to talk about this. Stephen said that it wouldn't entirely fly, because some players, regardless of color or distaste of the man, would still sign for him, because the color of the the money is all that matters to them. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From:
[scifinoir2] Re: Singer Seriously Considering Return to X-Men Movies
I stop and re-watch the first X-Man movie every time I run across it on cable (ATT Uverse, baby!) and I think the first part of that movie - up until the point where Storm and Cyclops rescue Wolverine and Rogue from Sabertooth and Magneto's minions is some of the finest film making that I have ever seen in super hero movie. That is all Bryan Singer. And, while I will admit the latest superman movie was less filling (especially that child trying to fill Margot Kidder's shoes) but it looked great. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: After the debacles that were X3 and Wolverine: X-Men Origins, I'm not really all that excited about this. Granted, Singer wasn't behind either of those flicks. But you have to feel the studios have big say now (he even says as much in terms of financial clout) and that makes me nervous. Also, after three flicks, I think the excitement of X movies is wearing off me given the choices made in them: Halle Berry as Storm, Ice Man and Rogue too young, key powers changed (Juggernaut, Leech, Callisto), a lackluster Dark Phoenix storyline. The energy and excitement is leaving, and I worry about the ability to make something that's closer to the comics in spirit and less just movie versions. It might be, too, that I'm leery even with Singer returning, because his weak effort in Superman Returns (overly sentimental script, some bad casting) makes me afraid of what he'll bring to a fourth X-Men movie. *** http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i30e7feb16ddb0207ec91e06b9521cbc4?imw=Y Bryan Singer wants more 'X-Men' Director of first two films has discussed return with Fox Associated Press Oct 11, 2009, 09:06 AM ET hr/photos/stylus/61119-singer_bryan_341x182.jpg Bryan Singer is interested in directing another 'X-Men.' (Getty) BUSAN -- Bryan Singer said Sunday he's interested in making another X-Men movie and has discussed the possibility with Twentieth Century Fox. The American director made X-Men and X2: X-Men United, but passed on the third installment so he could make Superman Returns.Rush Hour director Brett Ratner ended up shooting that film, X-Men: The Last Stand. South African filmmaker Gavin Hood made another spin-off, X-Men Origins: Wolverine, which was released earlier this year. I'm still looking to possibly returning to the 'X-Men' franchise. I've been talking to Fox about it, Singer said at a talk at South Korea's Pusan International Film Festival. I love Hugh Jackman. I love the cast, he said, referring to the Australian actor who plays Wolverine. Singer said he enjoyed making science fiction and fantasy movies because they allowed him to discuss serious issues through entertainment. He said the X-Men series, which follows a group of mutants with superpowers who struggle to fit in with humans, is about tolerance and social structures. He said he likes to trick audiences into thinking they're seeing fireworks, but they're learning about themselves and listening to what I have to say. The excitement about working in science fiction and fantasy is â the stories, if they are good, are about the human condition, Singer said. Appearing at a panel discussion with South Korean director Kim Ji-woon, the American director also said he appreciated the creative freedom South Korean filmmakers enjoyed to make the final cut, compared to Hollywood, where directors must negotiate with studio executives. Hollywood movie budgets are so high that the risk is too great to leave it in the hands of a filmmaker, he said, adding that he has a responsibility to help studios feel secure in their investments. Singer made his name with the 1995 critically acclaimed thriller The Usual Suspects but later earned a strong following among comic books fans for his adaptations of popular comic book series.
Re: [scifinoir2] African American Football players say they won't work for Rush
Yeah, I was sorely troubled by that too, an ESPN never made an apology to my knowledge, for that move - Original Message - From: George Arterberry brotherfromhow...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 5:45:13 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] African American Football players say they won't work for Rush I lost alot of respect for Tom Jackson that day. --- On Mon, 10/12/09, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] African American Football players say they won't work for Rush To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, October 12, 2009, 1:22 AM Yeah, i know, i'm jsut saying these guys were paid commentators. Had Limbaugh said that McNabb sucked as a QB, there reactions wouild have been instantaneous and assured. I guess since he went waaay off script they were frozen with indecision, but it still irks me that men known for being so voluble and spontaneous froze at such a key moment. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 9:21:31 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] African American Football players say they won't work for Rush When you are in the moment and not expecting things some people wait for a reaction from the audience before gaining the courage to say anything. Just another WTF??? moment... Remember the Jimmy the Greek incident? One of the most famous quotes on tv The black is a better athlete to begin with because he's been bred to be that way — because of his high thighs and big thighs that goes up into his back, and they can jump higher and run faster because of their bigger thighs. This goes back all the way to the Civil War when during the slave trading, the owner — the slave owner would breed his big black to his big woman so that he could have a big black kid. After that remark his career was pretty much over. On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 6:09 PM, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net wrote: Yeah, but I'm talking about what happened *on* camera. They just sat there and looked at him. Now, granted, they were taken off guard, but guys who can run their mouths all the time to critique athletes and coaches and stuff, I expect to be able to come back quickly. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 8:09:25 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] African American Football players say they won't work for Rush We don't know what happened off camera. The director of the show may have cut their mic or it was edited out completely. That is the danger of tv production. You can alter reality to how you see fit. On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net wrote: Limbaugh is a bigot, pure and simple. I am amazed at ESPN hiring him as a commentator a few years back. And what did he do? Within a short time, claimed the media was being soft on Donovan McNabb just because he was black. I was so pissed at that I almost threw something at the television. To this day i'm not at all clear why they did that. I was also upset that the blacks on the show that day didn't argue with him: they can spend all their time yelling about who was the greatest player in their day, but let that racist rant on like that. At any rate, this is horrible. Of course, as is always the way with this, the mainstream will turn it on us and say so now you want to judge people like this and they'll find some black person who's a member of the NAACP or something, and try to block him from owning a team with whites on it. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 6:05:32 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] African American Football players say they won't work for Rush I couldn't pass this story up. Rush Limbaugh wants to buy the St. Louis Rams, black players say they would boycott the team. I don't blame them at all. http://www.latimes. com/sports/ la-sp-random11- 2009oct11, 0,6499393. story -- Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/mahogany_ pleasures_ of_darkness/ -- Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/mahogany_ pleasures_ of_darkness/ -- Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/mahogany_ pleasures_ of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: African American Football players say they won't work for Rush
It was the time frame. At the time everyone was hiring black players, and players from the Dominican Republic. There were a lot more players of color at the time on times nationally. The actual number of black players has gone down significantly. So much so that they have started inner city baseball leagues to get black kids interested in baseball again. On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 7:05 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: Chastising Marge Schott for having the whitest team in baseball is like calling someone the tallest midget. She had two black starting position players: Eric Davis and Barry Larkin. The current Milwaukee Brewers have exactly TWO everyday starting position players of the negro persuasion: Prince Fielder and Mike Cameron. The Central Division champion St. Louis Cardinals have ZERO African-Americans in their everyday line-up. The New York freaking Yankees have one: Derek Jeter. ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... wrote: During Marge Schott's reign, they had the whitest team in baseball. That quote was from a white announcer that I heard make that quote back in the day. A lot of rich bigots gave to charity but it was probably more of a tax write off than generosity. On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@... wrote: As a devout believer in the redoubtable science of paradox, I suggest that Rush might be the best professional sports team owner, ever. A physical blob himself, Rush secretly adores extraordinary physical specimens - and, like most racists he harbors a grudging respect for supremely gifted black people - plus he LOVES football. Marge Schott, the former owner of the Cincinnati Reds was a conservative troglodyte (and self-avowed Adolf Hitler sympathizer) but her players adored her. She doted on them like a fraternity house mother. And, for the most part, she was a good if frugal owner. Fans praised her efforts to keep ticket and concession prices low. She loved children (she was unable to have any of her own) and always allowed any child in attendance before a home game to come down to the playing field and run to deep center field and back. I think people are remembered for the good things they do when they're gone, Reds shortstop Barry Larkin said. Now that she's gone, they will remember the parties she had to raise money for kids, her involvement with the zoo, her giving to minority programs. She gave to minority programs before her racist comments came out. I, personally, think Fat Rush would be a Mark Cuban type of owner - lavishing luxuries on his overpaid athletic employees - while continuing to spew his racist blather on the radio. And why shouldn't a shameless rodeo clown follow a gold digging showgirl as owner of the St. Louis Rams. Unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on your point of view), Rush would inevitably say something stupid that would get him banned (in the way Schott was banned from running her own team from 1996 through 1998 - she sold the team for a $54 million profit in 1999) from the NFL - which is why his bid may not be approved. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ wrote: Remember that woman that used to own the Reds back in the late 80s early 90s? That was a similar situation. She was just about as bad as rush. I agree with Daryle on the importance of ownership. There should be more teams with black owners. Carmello should buy a couple. On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 4:50 AM, Daryle Lockhart daryle@wrote: Very important to note that such a move would have to be approved by the owners association of the NFL, a board that now includes Venus and Serena Williams. This, friends, is why it's important to focus on ownership instead of being an employee all the time. On Oct 11, 2009, at 7:42 AM, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ wrote: I still don't think it would be total. Too many of these guys are enamored of the money. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVikhttp://www.youtube .com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: HelloMahogany@ Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 04:27:44 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] African American Football players say they won't work for Rush That is possible, but what if it gained momentum? For example, there is pressure from celebs and so on? That is what I am hoping. On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 4:19 AM, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ wrote: Mr Worf, Ed
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Singer Seriously Considering Return to X-Men Movies
Lauren Shuler Donner had the biggest influence on the movie as producer. It was her idea to hire Hugh Jackman as Wolverine, and other casting choices. However, she never read a comic book until pre-production. On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 7:19 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: I stop and re-watch the first X-Man movie every time I run across it on cable (ATT Uverse, baby!) and I think the first part of that movie - up until the point where Storm and Cyclops rescue Wolverine and Rogue from Sabertooth and Magneto's minions is some of the finest film making that I have ever seen in super hero movie. That is all Bryan Singer. And, while I will admit the latest superman movie was less filling (especially that child trying to fill Margot Kidder's shoes) but it looked great. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: After the debacles that were X3 and Wolverine: X-Men Origins, I'm not really all that excited about this. Granted, Singer wasn't behind either of those flicks. But you have to feel the studios have big say now (he even says as much in terms of financial clout) and that makes me nervous. Also, after three flicks, I think the excitement of X movies is wearing off me given the choices made in them: Halle Berry as Storm, Ice Man and Rogue too young, key powers changed (Juggernaut, Leech, Callisto), a lackluster Dark Phoenix storyline. The energy and excitement is leaving, and I worry about the ability to make something that's closer to the comics in spirit and less just movie versions. It might be, too, that I'm leery even with Singer returning, because his weak effort in Superman Returns (overly sentimental script, some bad casting) makes me afraid of what he'll bring to a fourth X-Men movie. *** http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i30e7feb16ddb0207ec91e06b9521cbc4?imw=Y Bryan Singer wants more 'X-Men' Director of first two films has discussed return with Fox Associated Press Oct 11, 2009, 09:06 AM ET hr/photos/stylus/61119-singer_bryan_341x182.jpg Bryan Singer is interested in directing another 'X-Men.' (Getty) BUSAN -- Bryan Singer said Sunday he's interested in making another X-Men movie and has discussed the possibility with Twentieth Century Fox. The American director made X-Men and X2: X-Men United, but passed on the third installment so he could make Superman Returns.Rush Hour director Brett Ratner ended up shooting that film, X-Men: The Last Stand. South African filmmaker Gavin Hood made another spin-off, X-Men Origins: Wolverine, which was released earlier this year. I'm still looking to possibly returning to the 'X-Men' franchise. I've been talking to Fox about it, Singer said at a talk at South Korea's Pusan International Film Festival. I love Hugh Jackman. I love the cast, he said, referring to the Australian actor who plays Wolverine. Singer said he enjoyed making science fiction and fantasy movies because they allowed him to discuss serious issues through entertainment. He said the X-Men series, which follows a group of mutants with superpowers who struggle to fit in with humans, is about tolerance and social structures. He said he likes to trick audiences into thinking they're seeing fireworks, but they're learning about themselves and listening to what I have to say. The excitement about working in science fiction and fantasy is †the stories, if they are good, are about the human condition, Singer said. Appearing at a panel discussion with South Korean director Kim Ji-woon, the American director also said he appreciated the creative freedom South Korean filmmakers enjoyed to make the final cut, compared to Hollywood, where directors must negotiate with studio executives. Hollywood movie budgets are so high that the risk is too great to leave it in the hands of a filmmaker, he said, adding that he has a responsibility to help studios feel secure in their investments. Singer made his name with the 1995 critically acclaimed thriller The Usual Suspects but later earned a strong following among comic books fans for his adaptations of popular comic book series. Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo! Groups Links -- Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
[scifinoir2] Re: Singer Seriously Considering Return to X-Men Movies
Yes, but last time I checked, Lauren Shuler Donner did not shoot one frame of film - and, what I'm praising is what is up on the screen. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... wrote: Lauren Shuler Donner had the biggest influence on the movie as producer. It was her idea to hire Hugh Jackman as Wolverine, and other casting choices. However, she never read a comic book until pre-production. On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 7:19 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@... wrote: I stop and re-watch the first X-Man movie every time I run across it on cable (ATT Uverse, baby!) and I think the first part of that movie - up until the point where Storm and Cyclops rescue Wolverine and Rogue from Sabertooth and Magneto's minions is some of the finest film making that I have ever seen in super hero movie. That is all Bryan Singer. And, while I will admit the latest superman movie was less filling (especially that child trying to fill Margot Kidder's shoes) but it looked great. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: After the debacles that were X3 and Wolverine: X-Men Origins, I'm not really all that excited about this. Granted, Singer wasn't behind either of those flicks. But you have to feel the studios have big say now (he even says as much in terms of financial clout) and that makes me nervous. Also, after three flicks, I think the excitement of X movies is wearing off me given the choices made in them: Halle Berry as Storm, Ice Man and Rogue too young, key powers changed (Juggernaut, Leech, Callisto), a lackluster Dark Phoenix storyline. The energy and excitement is leaving, and I worry about the ability to make something that's closer to the comics in spirit and less just movie versions. It might be, too, that I'm leery even with Singer returning, because his weak effort in Superman Returns (overly sentimental script, some bad casting) makes me afraid of what he'll bring to a fourth X-Men movie. *** http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i30e7feb16ddb0207ec91e06b9521cbc4?imw=Y Bryan Singer wants more 'X-Men' Director of first two films has discussed return with Fox Associated Press Oct 11, 2009, 09:06 AM ET hr/photos/stylus/61119-singer_bryan_341x182.jpg Bryan Singer is interested in directing another 'X-Men.' (Getty) BUSAN -- Bryan Singer said Sunday he's interested in making another X-Men movie and has discussed the possibility with Twentieth Century Fox. The American director made X-Men and X2: X-Men United, but passed on the third installment so he could make Superman Returns.Rush Hour director Brett Ratner ended up shooting that film, X-Men: The Last Stand. South African filmmaker Gavin Hood made another spin-off, X-Men Origins: Wolverine, which was released earlier this year. I'm still looking to possibly returning to the 'X-Men' franchise. I've been talking to Fox about it, Singer said at a talk at South Korea's Pusan International Film Festival. I love Hugh Jackman. I love the cast, he said, referring to the Australian actor who plays Wolverine. Singer said he enjoyed making science fiction and fantasy movies because they allowed him to discuss serious issues through entertainment. He said the X-Men series, which follows a group of mutants with superpowers who struggle to fit in with humans, is about tolerance and social structures. He said he likes to trick audiences into thinking they're seeing fireworks, but they're learning about themselves and listening to what I have to say. The excitement about working in science fiction and fantasy is â⬠the stories, if they are good, are about the human condition, Singer said. Appearing at a panel discussion with South Korean director Kim Ji-woon, the American director also said he appreciated the creative freedom South Korean filmmakers enjoyed to make the final cut, compared to Hollywood, where directors must negotiate with studio executives. Hollywood movie budgets are so high that the risk is too great to leave it in the hands of a filmmaker, he said, adding that he has a responsibility to help studios feel secure in their investments. Singer made his name with the 1995 critically acclaimed thriller The Usual Suspects but later earned a strong following among comic books fans for his adaptations of popular comic book series. Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo! Groups Links -- Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
[scifinoir2] Re: African American Football players say they won't work for Rush
That was the time frame? We are talking ten years ago! (Schott sold the team in 1999). But your point does allow me to press my contention that the whole steroids era was a plot to keep the sport of baseball white. Barry Bonds (Sammy Sosa, Alex Rodriques, Manny Ramirez, et al) have been tarred with a black brush as steroid cheaters but the real reason Major League Baseball looked the other way all those years is because steroids made stars of marginal white players like Brady Anderson and, yes, Mark McGwire. Barry Bonds could have, would have, should have won more MVPs, won more homerun titles AND been inducted into Baseball's Hall of Fame but he could not STAND that McGwire was stealing all of his thunder when he (Bonds) KNEW McGwire was juicing. I will never forget the post game interview at McGwire's locker where you could clearly see the body of steriods on the locker's top shelf. That is how open a secret it was that white players were cheating and everyone in Major League baseball knew about it. ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... wrote: It was the time frame. At the time everyone was hiring black players, and players from the Dominican Republic. There were a lot more players of color at the time on times nationally. The actual number of black players has gone down significantly. So much so that they have started inner city baseball leagues to get black kids interested in baseball again. On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 7:05 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@... wrote: Chastising Marge Schott for having the whitest team in baseball is like calling someone the tallest midget. She had two black starting position players: Eric Davis and Barry Larkin. The current Milwaukee Brewers have exactly TWO everyday starting position players of the negro persuasion: Prince Fielder and Mike Cameron. The Central Division champion St. Louis Cardinals have ZERO African-Americans in their everyday line-up. The New York freaking Yankees have one: Derek Jeter. ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ wrote: During Marge Schott's reign, they had the whitest team in baseball. That quote was from a white announcer that I heard make that quote back in the day. A lot of rich bigots gave to charity but it was probably more of a tax write off than generosity. On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Kelwyn ravenadal@ wrote: As a devout believer in the redoubtable science of paradox, I suggest that Rush might be the best professional sports team owner, ever. A physical blob himself, Rush secretly adores extraordinary physical specimens - and, like most racists he harbors a grudging respect for supremely gifted black people - plus he LOVES football. Marge Schott, the former owner of the Cincinnati Reds was a conservative troglodyte (and self-avowed Adolf Hitler sympathizer) but her players adored her. She doted on them like a fraternity house mother. And, for the most part, she was a good if frugal owner. Fans praised her efforts to keep ticket and concession prices low. She loved children (she was unable to have any of her own) and always allowed any child in attendance before a home game to come down to the playing field and run to deep center field and back. I think people are remembered for the good things they do when they're gone, Reds shortstop Barry Larkin said. Now that she's gone, they will remember the parties she had to raise money for kids, her involvement with the zoo, her giving to minority programs. She gave to minority programs before her racist comments came out. I, personally, think Fat Rush would be a Mark Cuban type of owner - lavishing luxuries on his overpaid athletic employees - while continuing to spew his racist blather on the radio. And why shouldn't a shameless rodeo clown follow a gold digging showgirl as owner of the St. Louis Rams. Unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on your point of view), Rush would inevitably say something stupid that would get him banned (in the way Schott was banned from running her own team from 1996 through 1998 - she sold the team for a $54 million profit in 1999) from the NFL - which is why his bid may not be approved. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ wrote: Remember that woman that used to own the Reds back in the late 80s early 90s? That was a similar situation. She was just about as bad as rush. I agree with Daryle on the importance of ownership. There should be more teams with black owners. Carmello should buy a couple. On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 4:50 AM, Daryle Lockhart daryle@wrote: Very important to note that such a move would have to be
RE: [scifinoir2] Re: African American Football players say they won't work for Rush
The number of *American* players has gone down. IMO, baseball has been dismissed by many young men, of ALL races, as the path to sports stardom and wealth because it takes too long to become truly good enough to earn that kind of money, unless they walk in the door supernaturally gifted. Most of the great players today are Latinos from Central America, because baseball there is second only to religion. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 07:54:22 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: African American Football players say they won't work for Rush It was the time frame. At the time everyone was hiring black players, and players from the Dominican Republic. There were a lot more players of color at the time on times nationally. The actual number of black players has gone down significantly. So much so that they have started inner city baseball leagues to get black kids interested in baseball again. On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 7:05 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: Chastising Marge Schott for having the whitest team in baseball is like calling someone the tallest midget. She had two black starting position players: Eric Davis and Barry Larkin. The current Milwaukee Brewers have exactly TWO everyday starting position players of the negro persuasion: Prince Fielder and Mike Cameron. The Central Division champion St. Louis Cardinals have ZERO African-Americans in their everyday line-up. The New York freaking Yankees have one: Derek Jeter. ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... wrote: During Marge Schott's reign, they had the whitest team in baseball. That quote was from a white announcer that I heard make that quote back in the day. A lot of rich bigots gave to charity but it was probably more of a tax write off than generosity. On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@... wrote: As a devout believer in the redoubtable science of paradox, I suggest that Rush might be the best professional sports team owner, ever. A physical blob himself, Rush secretly adores extraordinary physical specimens - and, like most racists he harbors a grudging respect for supremely gifted black people - plus he LOVES football. Marge Schott, the former owner of the Cincinnati Reds was a conservative troglodyte (and self-avowed Adolf Hitler sympathizer) but her players adored her. She doted on them like a fraternity house mother. And, for the most part, she was a good if frugal owner. Fans praised her efforts to keep ticket and concession prices low. She loved children (she was unable to have any of her own) and always allowed any child in attendance before a home game to come down to the playing field and run to deep center field and back. I think people are remembered for the good things they do when they're gone, Reds shortstop Barry Larkin said. Now that she's gone, they will remember the parties she had to raise money for kids, her involvement with the zoo, her giving to minority programs. She gave to minority programs before her racist comments came out. I, personally, think Fat Rush would be a Mark Cuban type of owner - lavishing luxuries on his overpaid athletic employees - while continuing to spew his racist blather on the radio. And why shouldn't a shameless rodeo clown follow a gold digging showgirl as owner of the St. Louis Rams. Unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on your point of view), Rush would inevitably say something stupid that would get him banned (in the way Schott was banned from running her own team from 1996 through 1998 - she sold the team for a $54 million profit in 1999) from the NFL - which is why his bid may not be approved. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ wrote: Remember that woman that used to own the Reds back in the late 80s early 90s? That was a similar situation. She was just about as bad as rush. I agree with Daryle on the importance of ownership. There should be more teams with black owners. Carmello should buy a couple. On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 4:50 AM, Daryle Lockhart daryle@wrote: Very important to note that such a move would have to be approved by the owners association of the NFL, a board that now includes Venus and Serena Williams. This, friends, is why it's important to focus on ownership instead of being an employee all the time. On Oct 11, 2009, at 7:42 AM, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ wrote: I still don't think it would be total. Too many of these guys are
RE: [scifinoir2] Re: My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe
That's something I fully expect to happen more often as the series goes on, people choosing to go through the gate to alternate available addresses, figuring that what's on the other side may be unknown, but it's not moving aimlessly and breaking down at every turn. Lesser of two or more evils. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 20:15:43 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe I agree. There isn't a sense of connection or team work yet. I think that the med may be a good choice. Her character could possibly go on to learn ancient medicine from the database. (ya know something like that is going to happen) The woman that stepped through the gate to one of the mystery addresses was a valuable team member. On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 6:54 PM, angelababycat asrobin...@mindspring.com wrote: That's another difference with this SG series: the eps are ending with little cliff hangers, which is pretty cool. I'll agree that SyFy still isn't back to its glory days, but this is a step the right direction. The BSG tone is a little played out, but not a deal breaker. I also haven't seen a strong female character emerge yet (recall those such as Col. Carter, 7 of 9, Tela, etc.). I think the show needs one for balance. And I still want to see some aliens. I like aliens. The little sand storms reminded me of the aliens that popped out of the ground in ... hold on...going way back ... Earth II. LOL! But then it was just some visions of an Irish priest. What a tease. Angela --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@... wrote: That’s what I thought at first. Was it the Senator’s shuttle and did reviving the ship trigger something with his pod? It’s a conundrum From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mr. Worf Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 5:39 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe The ship looked a lot like the one that the senator died in. On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 4:57 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: I need to take a gander again at it. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 5:22:43 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe Keith, it looked like the undamaged shuttle. Admittedly, my glance was brief. Tried to stretch myself to rewatch it at 11:00, but I faded. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik _ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@... Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 17:26:51 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe Was that a shuttle craft leaving the ship, or was it perhaps one of the ship's probes or automated gate-building devices? I know its mission is to gather information and build additional gates along the way. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 5:40:54 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe They didn't show what was on the other side of the gate. Also if you noticed the last 10 seconds of the show a shuttle craft left the ship. On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 12:15 AM, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@... wrote: I thought the two who went to the other gate died. Do you thing that the lived? From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mr. Worf Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 12:06 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe I watched the show last night. I also agree that I enjoyed the doctor getting kicked in the butt. I think that they may be building the black guy into an anti-hero. Cuz you know that black people don't live long in space... They seem to have a few different subplots already brewing. For example, the 2 that went to the other gate address. Dollhouse: I watched that too. I am starting to get a little irked at the malfunction subplot. It doesn't seem to be going anywhere yet. The subtext to the show is interesting. They seem to be exploring the full spectrum of fantasies for the Echo character. I wonder what is going on with that? :) I watch medium, and flashforward too. Medium is
RE: [scifinoir2] African American Football players say they won't work for Rush
Would've been reasonable, Keith. Now, if either one had said afterward, I was trying to keep myself from laughing at/killing him, I could understand that. The absence of words was louder than any maelstrom. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 01:09:25 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] African American Football players say they won't work for Rush Yeah, but I'm talking about what happened *on* camera. They just sat there and looked at him. Now, granted, they were taken off guard, but guys who can run their mouths all the time to critique athletes and coaches and stuff, I expect to be able to come back quickly. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 8:09:25 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] African American Football players say they won't work for Rush We don't know what happened off camera. The director of the show may have cut their mic or it was edited out completely. That is the danger of tv production. You can alter reality to how you see fit. On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Limbaugh is a bigot, pure and simple. I am amazed at ESPN hiring him as a commentator a few years back. And what did he do? Within a short time, claimed the media was being soft on Donovan McNabb just because he was black. I was so pissed at that I almost threw something at the television. To this day i'm not at all clear why they did that. I was also upset that the blacks on the show that day didn't argue with him: they can spend all their time yelling about who was the greatest player in their day, but let that racist rant on like that. At any rate, this is horrible. Of course, as is always the way with this, the mainstream will turn it on us and say so now you want to judge people like this and they'll find some black person who's a member of the NAACP or something, and try to block him from owning a team with whites on it. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 6:05:32 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] African American Football players say they won't work for Rush I couldn't pass this story up. Rush Limbaugh wants to buy the St. Louis Rams, black players say they would boycott the team. I don't blame them at all. http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-random11-2009oct11,0,6499393.story -- Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/
RE: [scifinoir2] African American Football players say they won't work for Rush
Also, Mr Worf, allow me to add the Moment of Infamy for one H Cosell, sportscaster, during a MNF game when the Redskins' Alvin Gentry caught a pass and, as he did some nimble dancing between would-be tacklers, Cosell utters the immortal (unfortunately) words, Look at that little monkey go! (Apologies for any offense made.) There was a fork in his career as well after that. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 18:21:31 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] African American Football players say they won't work for Rush When you are in the moment and not expecting things some people wait for a reaction from the audience before gaining the courage to say anything. Just another WTF??? moment... Remember the Jimmy the Greek incident? One of the most famous quotes on tv The black is a better athlete to begin with because he's been bred to be that way — because of his high thighs and big thighs that goes up into his back, and they can jump higher and run faster because of their bigger thighs. This goes back all the way to the Civil War when during the slave trading, the owner — the slave owner would breed his big black to his big woman so that he could have a big black kid. After that remark his career was pretty much over. On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 6:09 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Yeah, but I'm talking about what happened *on* camera. They just sat there and looked at him. Now, granted, they were taken off guard, but guys who can run their mouths all the time to critique athletes and coaches and stuff, I expect to be able to come back quickly. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 8:09:25 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] African American Football players say they won't work for Rush We don't know what happened off camera. The director of the show may have cut their mic or it was edited out completely. That is the danger of tv production. You can alter reality to how you see fit. On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Limbaugh is a bigot, pure and simple. I am amazed at ESPN hiring him as a commentator a few years back. And what did he do? Within a short time, claimed the media was being soft on Donovan McNabb just because he was black. I was so pissed at that I almost threw something at the television. To this day i'm not at all clear why they did that. I was also upset that the blacks on the show that day didn't argue with him: they can spend all their time yelling about who was the greatest player in their day, but let that racist rant on like that. At any rate, this is horrible. Of course, as is always the way with this, the mainstream will turn it on us and say so now you want to judge people like this and they'll find some black person who's a member of the NAACP or something, and try to block him from owning a team with whites on it. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 6:05:32 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] African American Football players say they won't work for Rush I couldn't pass this story up. Rush Limbaugh wants to buy the St. Louis Rams, black players say they would boycott the team. I don't blame them at all. http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-random11-2009oct11,0,6499393.story -- Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ _ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222986/direct/01/
RE: [scifinoir2] Singer Seriously Considering Return to X-Men Movies
But, Mr Worf... that would make *sense*. Isn't done in H'Wood. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 17:48:03 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Singer Seriously Considering Return to X-Men Movies I still believe that in order for someone to do a good job at Xmen it needs to be done by people that actually read comic books. Otherwise it is like having someone make a movie about racing that has never actually driven a car. On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: After the debacles that were X3 and Wolverine: X-Men Origins, I'm not really all that excited about this. Granted, Singer wasn't behind either of those flicks. But you have to feel the studios have big say now (he even says as much in terms of financial clout) and that makes me nervous. Also, after three flicks, I think the excitement of X movies is wearing off me given the choices made in them: Halle Berry as Storm, Ice Man and Rogue too young, key powers changed (Juggernaut, Leech, Callisto), a lackluster Dark Phoenix storyline. The energy and excitement is leaving, and I worry about the ability to make something that's closer to the comics in spirit and less just movie versions. It might be, too, that I'm leery even with Singer returning, because his weak effort in Superman Returns (overly sentimental script, some bad casting) makes me afraid of what he'll bring to a fourth X-Men movie. *** http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i30e7feb16ddb0207ec91e06b9521cbc4?imw=Y Bryan Singer wants more 'X-Men' Director of first two films has discussed return with Fox Associated Press Oct 11, 2009, 09:06 AM ET Bryan Singer is interested in directing another 'X-Men.' (Getty) BUSAN -- Bryan Singer said Sunday he's interested in making another X-Men movie and has discussed the possibility with Twentieth Century Fox. The American director made X-Men and X2: X-Men United, but passed on the third installment so he could make Superman Returns.Rush Hour director Brett Ratner ended up shooting that film, X-Men: The Last Stand. South African filmmaker Gavin Hood made another spin-off, X-Men Origins: Wolverine, which was released earlier this year. I'm still looking to possibly returning to the 'X-Men' franchise. I've been talking to Fox about it, Singer said at a talk at South Korea's Pusan International Film Festival. I love Hugh Jackman. I love the cast, he said, referring to the Australian actor who plays Wolverine. Singer said he enjoyed making science fiction and fantasy movies because they allowed him to discuss serious issues through entertainment. He said the X-Men series, which follows a group of mutants with superpowers who struggle to fit in with humans, is about tolerance and social structures. He said he likes to trick audiences into thinking they're seeing fireworks, but they're learning about themselves and listening to what I have to say. The excitement about working in science fiction and fantasy is — the stories, if they are good, are about the human condition, Singer said. Appearing at a panel discussion with South Korean director Kim Ji-woon, the American director also said he appreciated the creative freedom South Korean filmmakers enjoyed to make the final cut, compared to Hollywood, where directors must negotiate with studio executives. Hollywood movie budgets are so high that the risk is too great to leave it in the hands of a filmmaker, he said, adding that he has a responsibility to help studios feel secure in their investments. Singer made his name with the 1995 critically acclaimed thriller The Usual Suspects but later earned a strong following among comic books fans for his adaptations of popular comic book series. -- Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ _ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222986/direct/01/
RE: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe
Tracey, I don't know if it was the Senator's shuttle, because I didn't get enough of a glance at it. As soon as I can, I intend to re-view it online. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 17:45:28 -0700 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe That’s what I thought at first. Was it the Senator’s shuttle and did reviving the ship trigger something with his pod? It’s a conundrum From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mr. Worf Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 5:39 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe The ship looked a lot like the one that the senator died in. On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 4:57 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: I need to take a gander again at it. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 5:22:43 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe Keith, it looked like the undamaged shuttle. Admittedly, my glance was brief. Tried to stretch myself to rewatch it at 11:00, but I faded. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 17:26:51 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe Was that a shuttle craft leaving the ship, or was it perhaps one of the ship's probes or automated gate-building devices? I know its mission is to gather information and build additional gates along the way. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 5:40:54 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe They didn't show what was on the other side of the gate. Also if you noticed the last 10 seconds of the show a shuttle craft left the ship. On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 12:15 AM, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: I thought the two who went to the other gate died. Do you thing that the lived? From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mr. Worf Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 12:06 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe I watched the show last night. I also agree that I enjoyed the doctor getting kicked in the butt. I think that they may be building the black guy into an anti-hero. Cuz you know that black people don't live long in space... They seem to have a few different subplots already brewing. For example, the 2 that went to the other gate address. Dollhouse: I watched that too. I am starting to get a little irked at the malfunction subplot. It doesn't seem to be going anywhere yet. The subtext to the show is interesting. They seem to be exploring the full spectrum of fantasies for the Echo character. I wonder what is going on with that? :) I watch medium, and flashforward too. Medium is sort of suspense light. Its an ok show though. I'm interested in how they are going to develop the girl's powers. Flashforward is interesting to me, but at this point, everyone's visions have been coming true. Why do they still doubt it? On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 8:51 PM, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: Some of my favorite TV Theme music is Doctor Who. I listen to it sometimes on You tube.I used to collect Movie Them Music. Now I just play them on You Tube. On SGU I liked the song that they played right before the last three went through the gate. I like this Stargate better than the last few seasons of SGI and Better than Atlantis, but I got some problems with it that I can’t quite put my fingers on. Overall, I like that they are trying to do real stories again. I would like to like the Black guy, but he irks me. Ironically I enjoyed when he kicked the Doctor in the butt. I do not like how they are Using Lou Diamond Phillips. Anybody watching Fringe, Dollhouse, FastForward or Medium? Any thoughts? From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Keith Johnson Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 8:12 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate
RE: [scifinoir2] Couples Retreat Scores Big at Box Office
Amen to that, Mr Worf. And another issue that's always gnawed on me -- when I was growing up, being raised solo by my other, I remember vividly when she began to prep me for the day when I was going to get my first haircut. She told me, repeatedly, that I was supposed to ask for what I wanted done to my head before or as I sat down and, if what ended up being done wasn't what I asked for, I was supposed to get up and walk away without paying. Yet I can't count the number of times when she or any of my sisters have gone to the shop and come home, complaining that they didn't like what the stylist had done to them. If they're paying $40 and up for the service, shouldn't they speak up that much louder? Martin (waiting for the fire to begin peppering the ground about him) If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 17:24:37 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Couples Retreat Scores Big at Box Office I think Good Hair may actually start the bigger dialog on a topic that is about 20 years overdue. Why are black women doing this to themselves when it is draining so much money from their bank accounts every month? What are the psychological implications of doing it? On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 3:40 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: I can never predict what the movie going public will like. Ever trailer I saw for Couple's Retreat made we want to stay far away from what looked like a predictable, slapstick heavy movie. I mean, scenes of a foreign hunk attracting the ladies but irritating the men...a scene with a crazed yoga instructor contorting so that his butt ends up on a man's face--oh, funny ha-ha. I also can't take either Vince Vaughn or Faizon Love in more than small doses, each getting on my nerves pretty quickly after too long. Go figure... I did see Good Hair today, which was enjoyable. Funny moments, but not rolling on the floor funny. My one criticism is that Chris Rock was a bit too outside the subject matter. He showed a lot of the Who, What, When, Where, and How of black women straightening their hair and getting weaves, but he slighted the Why. At one point Rock told a white scientist that black women wanted to look white. At the end of the movie, it's obvious he doesn't feel that way, but he didn't really let black women speak to that point. He interviewed them about how much money they spend on salons, how often they get their hair done, how young they were when they first got a perm, the Bronner Brothers show here in Atlanta, etc. But there was precious little discussion with Black women to explain how perms make it easier to maintain their hair. Very little frank discussion with them about whether they're trying to look white. No real mention of asking them why don't you try an afro? The interviewing of celebrities (Nia Long, Salt and Peppa, etc.) didn't really add much to the conversation. It was entertaining, but it could have been a bit deeper. Were I a Black woman, I'd come away feeling Rock didn't really let the full story play out on screen. I'm actually looking forward to the documentary about LeBron James' and his friends' march to the national high school basketball championship. *** http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i30e7feb16ddb02072c2eafb4d6b13179 'Couples' tops boxoffice 'Paranormal' finishes with $7.1 mil in first full weekend By Carl DiOrio Oct 11, 2009, 11:54 AM ET Related Couples Retreat tops boxoffice Friday Video: Box Office Tally Film Review -- Couples Retreat Finally, some good news for Universal. The recently struggling studio topped the weekend boxoffice, as its ensemble comedy Couples Retreat roused older date-night couples in big numbers to ring up an estimated $35.3 million in opening domestic coin. The winning performance came during a relatively quiet fall session, with the rest of the top spots filled by holdover pics. But with Universal Pictures replacing its top two execs last week following a summer-long boxoffice drought, the feat was no less welcome, whatever the competition. Sony's Woody Harrelson starrer Zombieland fell a modest 39% from its chart-topping tally of last weekend to $15 million in second place. That gave the modestly budgeted action comedy a 10-day cume of $47.8 million. The second, and potentially final, weekend for Disney's double-feature release of Toy Story and Toy Story 2 in 3D saw the pairing dip just 39% from a week earlier to register $7.7 million in fourth place and a $22.7 million cume. Disney has said it would pull the titles from theaters on Friday, but execs will
RE: [scifinoir2] African American Football players say they won'twork for Rush
The Raiders must've been in on it as well, then. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: dar...@darylelockhart.com Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 17:50:05 -0400 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] African American Football players say they won'twork for Rush The way the Rams played today, looks like they've already started their strike. Daryle On Oct 11, 2009, at 1:41 PM, efhay...@yahoo.com wrote: Yeah, ESPN shouldn't have hired him, but the instant Limbaugh spewed that crap you had 2 black men on the stage who remained silent. THAT pissed me off more than Rush's b.s.! In fact, Tom Jackson addressed the Limbaugh statement only AFTER he was fired. But you know, if truth be told, I don't think Limbaugh differs much from other NFL owners. They just don't have daily radio shows. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 17:30:12 + (UTC)To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [scifinoir2] African American Football players say they won't work for Rush Limbaugh is a bigot, pure and simple. I am amazed at ESPN hiring him as a commentator a few years back. And what did he do? Within a short time, claimed the media was being soft on Donovan McNabb just because he was black. I was so pissed at that I almost threw something at the television. To this day i'm not at all clear why they did that. I was also upset that the blacks on the show that day didn't argue with him: they can spend all their time yelling about who was the greatest player in their day, but let that racist rant on like that. At any rate, this is horrible. Of course, as is always the way with this, the mainstream will turn it on us and say so now you want to judge people like this and they'll find some black person who's a member of the NAACP or something, and try to block him from owning a team with whites on it. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 6:05:32 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] African American Football players say they won't work for Rush I couldn't pass this story up. Rush Limbaugh wants to buy the St. Louis Rams, black players say they would boycott the team. I don't blame them at all. http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-random11-2009oct11,0,6499393.story -- Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/
RE: [scifinoir2] African American Football players say they won't work for Rush
That is true. But I would've hoped that Jackson at least would've responded and been edited, then, at some point in the afterward, been moved to say or write something on it. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 17:09:25 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] African American Football players say they won't work for Rush We don't know what happened off camera. The director of the show may have cut their mic or it was edited out completely. That is the danger of tv production. You can alter reality to how you see fit. On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Limbaugh is a bigot, pure and simple. I am amazed at ESPN hiring him as a commentator a few years back. And what did he do? Within a short time, claimed the media was being soft on Donovan McNabb just because he was black. I was so pissed at that I almost threw something at the television. To this day i'm not at all clear why they did that. I was also upset that the blacks on the show that day didn't argue with him: they can spend all their time yelling about who was the greatest player in their day, but let that racist rant on like that. At any rate, this is horrible. Of course, as is always the way with this, the mainstream will turn it on us and say so now you want to judge people like this and they'll find some black person who's a member of the NAACP or something, and try to block him from owning a team with whites on it. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 6:05:32 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] African American Football players say they won't work for Rush I couldn't pass this story up. Rush Limbaugh wants to buy the St. Louis Rams, black players say they would boycott the team. I don't blame them at all. http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-random11-2009oct11,0,6499393.story -- Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ _ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222986/direct/01/
RE: [scifinoir2] Couples Retreat Scores Big at Box Office
Sent too soon, sorry. Forgot to add that I really *like* the character, so much so that I decided that he would not only survive this story, but that he might get a prequel. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 22:40:38 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Couples Retreat Scores Big at Box Office I can never predict what the movie going public will like. Ever trailer I saw for Couple's Retreat made we want to stay far away from what looked like a predictable, slapstick heavy movie. I mean, scenes of a foreign hunk attracting the ladies but irritating the men...a scene with a crazed yoga instructor contorting so that his butt ends up on a man's face--oh, funny ha-ha. I also can't take either Vince Vaughn or Faizon Love in more than small doses, each getting on my nerves pretty quickly after too long. Go figure... I did see Good Hair today, which was enjoyable. Funny moments, but not rolling on the floor funny. My one criticism is that Chris Rock was a bit too outside the subject matter. He showed a lot of the Who, What, When, Where, and How of black women straightening their hair and getting weaves, but he slighted the Why. At one point Rock told a white scientist that black women wanted to look white. At the end of the movie, it's obvious he doesn't feel that way, but he didn't really let black women speak to that point. He interviewed them about how much money they spend on salons, how often they get their hair done, how young they were when they first got a perm, the Bronner Brothers show here in Atlanta, etc. But there was precious little discussion with Black women to explain how perms make it easier to maintain their hair. Very little frank discussion with them about whether they're trying to look white. No real mention of asking them why don't you try an afro? The interviewing of celebrities (Nia Long, Salt and Peppa, etc.) didn't really add much to the conversation. It was entertaining, but it could have been a bit deeper. Were I a Black woman, I'd come away feeling Rock didn't really let the full story play out on screen. I'm actually looking forward to the documentary about LeBron James' and his friends' march to the national high school basketball championship. *** http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i30e7feb16ddb02072c2eafb4d6b13179 'Couples' tops boxoffice 'Paranormal' finishes with $7.1 mil in first full weekend By Carl DiOrio Oct 11, 2009, 11:54 AM ET Related Couples Retreat tops boxoffice Friday Video: Box Office Tally Film Review -- Couples Retreat Finally, some good news for Universal. The recently struggling studio topped the weekend boxoffice, as its ensemble comedy Couples Retreat roused older date-night couples in big numbers to ring up an estimated $35.3 million in opening domestic coin. The winning performance came during a relatively quiet fall session, with the rest of the top spots filled by holdover pics. But with Universal Pictures replacing its top two execs last week following a summer-long boxoffice drought, the feat was no less welcome, whatever the competition. Sony's Woody Harrelson starrer Zombieland fell a modest 39% from its chart-topping tally of last weekend to $15 million in second place. That gave the modestly budgeted action comedy a 10-day cume of $47.8 million. The second, and potentially final, weekend for Disney's double-feature release of Toy Story and Toy Story 2 in 3D saw the pairing dip just 39% from a week earlier to register $7.7 million in fourth place and a $22.7 million cume. Disney has said it would pull the titles from theaters on Friday, but execs will reassess the matter Monday based on the solid marketplace hold for the films. Paramount's micro-budgeted sci-fi thriller Paranormal Activity grossed $7.1 million from 159 locations after expanding from its previous midnight-only playdates. The fifth-place showing amounted to an eye-popping $44,440 per site, with Paranormal's cume reaching $8.3 million. The heady performance should help widen publicity for the inexpensive Slamdance acquisition, as the studio attempts to sustain Paranormal's momentum into coming sessions. Warner Bros.' comedy The Invention of Lying, starring Ricky Gervais and Jennifer Garner, slid 52% to $3.4 million in seventh place with a 10-day cume of $12.3 million cume. And Fox Searchlight-produced Ellen Page-starrer Whip It dropped 40% in its sophomore session to $2.8 million in eighth place for $8.8 million cume. The weekend's top 10 films registered a collective $92.6 million, or 15% more than top performers in a comparable frame last year, according
RE: [scifinoir2] Couples Retreat Scores Big at Box Office
Again, Keith, I agree with you in totis. However, seeing Vaughn in the trailer for Couples Retreat made me realize that he is the living embodiment of a character in one of my stories. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 22:40:38 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Couples Retreat Scores Big at Box Office I can never predict what the movie going public will like. Ever trailer I saw for Couple's Retreat made we want to stay far away from what looked like a predictable, slapstick heavy movie. I mean, scenes of a foreign hunk attracting the ladies but irritating the men...a scene with a crazed yoga instructor contorting so that his butt ends up on a man's face--oh, funny ha-ha. I also can't take either Vince Vaughn or Faizon Love in more than small doses, each getting on my nerves pretty quickly after too long. Go figure... I did see Good Hair today, which was enjoyable. Funny moments, but not rolling on the floor funny. My one criticism is that Chris Rock was a bit too outside the subject matter. He showed a lot of the Who, What, When, Where, and How of black women straightening their hair and getting weaves, but he slighted the Why. At one point Rock told a white scientist that black women wanted to look white. At the end of the movie, it's obvious he doesn't feel that way, but he didn't really let black women speak to that point. He interviewed them about how much money they spend on salons, how often they get their hair done, how young they were when they first got a perm, the Bronner Brothers show here in Atlanta, etc. But there was precious little discussion with Black women to explain how perms make it easier to maintain their hair. Very little frank discussion with them about whether they're trying to look white. No real mention of asking them why don't you try an afro? The interviewing of celebrities (Nia Long, Salt and Peppa, etc.) didn't really add much to the conversation. It was entertaining, but it could have been a bit deeper. Were I a Black woman, I'd come away feeling Rock didn't really let the full story play out on screen. I'm actually looking forward to the documentary about LeBron James' and his friends' march to the national high school basketball championship. *** http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i30e7feb16ddb02072c2eafb4d6b13179 'Couples' tops boxoffice 'Paranormal' finishes with $7.1 mil in first full weekend By Carl DiOrio Oct 11, 2009, 11:54 AM ET Related Couples Retreat tops boxoffice Friday Video: Box Office Tally Film Review -- Couples Retreat Finally, some good news for Universal. The recently struggling studio topped the weekend boxoffice, as its ensemble comedy Couples Retreat roused older date-night couples in big numbers to ring up an estimated $35.3 million in opening domestic coin. The winning performance came during a relatively quiet fall session, with the rest of the top spots filled by holdover pics. But with Universal Pictures replacing its top two execs last week following a summer-long boxoffice drought, the feat was no less welcome, whatever the competition. Sony's Woody Harrelson starrer Zombieland fell a modest 39% from its chart-topping tally of last weekend to $15 million in second place. That gave the modestly budgeted action comedy a 10-day cume of $47.8 million. The second, and potentially final, weekend for Disney's double-feature release of Toy Story and Toy Story 2 in 3D saw the pairing dip just 39% from a week earlier to register $7.7 million in fourth place and a $22.7 million cume. Disney has said it would pull the titles from theaters on Friday, but execs will reassess the matter Monday based on the solid marketplace hold for the films. Paramount's micro-budgeted sci-fi thriller Paranormal Activity grossed $7.1 million from 159 locations after expanding from its previous midnight-only playdates. The fifth-place showing amounted to an eye-popping $44,440 per site, with Paranormal's cume reaching $8.3 million. The heady performance should help widen publicity for the inexpensive Slamdance acquisition, as the studio attempts to sustain Paranormal's momentum into coming sessions. Warner Bros.' comedy The Invention of Lying, starring Ricky Gervais and Jennifer Garner, slid 52% to $3.4 million in seventh place with a 10-day cume of $12.3 million cume. And Fox Searchlight-produced Ellen Page-starrer Whip It dropped 40% in its sophomore session to $2.8 million in eighth place for $8.8 million cume. The weekend's top 10 films registered a collective $92.6 million, or 15% more than top performers in a comparable frame last
RE: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe
Keith, Last week, someone here (apologies for the inability to give due credit, owing to memory issues) posted the story that Stephen Hawking was stepping down from the Lucasian Chair at Cambridge. I mentioned that, aside from his positing the Chronology Protection Conjecture, I was copacetic with much of his work. The CPC states, basically, that time travel, even if theoretically possible, can't be done in reality, because the Cosmos Herself would move to prevent any action to be taken based on time travel. That, thinking on it, may be the case here. (To my disgust. Needless to say, I want to disprove that in the worst way, darn the cnsequences.) If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 23:56:50 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe The whole concept of predicting the future is a strange one. Why have the power to see the future if it can't be changed, i.e., would it be better to see possible futures instead of certain ones? Does seeing the future if it's immutable only mean it prepares you for what's coming, e.g., if you see the death of a loved one, you can prepare for it ahead of time? And in that case, does seeing the future change the past? Would you not have, say, told that loved one how much she meant to you had you not seen her death coming, or was it always fated to be? Makes me crazy, but to me proves that time can't be linear, but must be circular or omnidirectional, because perhaps the future, the present (what actions you take because you've seen that future) and the past (actions taken that lead to you being able to see that future) all take place at the same time. Maybe time isn't linear, but a singularity, a point in which everything that ever was, is, or will be is happening right now--we just can't perceive it. Don't know. I do know that, when you have those discussions about what super power you'd like to have, the ability to see the future isn't usually on my list. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 5:26:19 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe How true! If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 17:32:02 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe Well said! But also, it must be remembered that even if some things have come true, not all of them must come true. Especially when one tries to ascribe some higher meaning to the flash forward, as in, is the Universe warning you of something coming so you can change it? - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 7:26:05 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe Mr Worf, regarding why many on FlashForward still won't accept the reality of the visions -- humans seem to have a difficult time accepting what's right in front of them. Case in point -- President Barack Obama. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 00:06:20 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe I watched the show last night. I also agree that I enjoyed the doctor getting kicked in the butt. I think that they may be building the black guy into an anti-hero. Cuz you know that black people don't live long in space... They seem to have a few different subplots already brewing. For example, the 2 that went to the other gate address. Dollhouse: I watched that too. I am starting to get a little irked at the malfunction subplot. It doesn't seem to be going anywhere yet. The subtext to the show is interesting. They seem to be exploring the full spectrum of fantasies for the Echo character. I wonder what is going on with that? :) I watch medium, and flashforward too. Medium is sort of suspense light. Its an ok show though. I'm interested in how they are going to develop the girl's powers. Flashforward is interesting to me, but at this point, everyone's visions have been coming true. Why do
Re: [scifinoir2] African American Football players say they won't work for Rush
Yep, I remember watching that live with my father. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 12:29:19 To: SciFiNoir2scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] African American Football players say they won't work for Rush Also, Mr Worf, allow me to add the Moment of Infamy for one H Cosell, sportscaster, during a MNF game when the Redskins' Alvin Gentry caught a pass and, as he did some nimble dancing between would-be tacklers, Cosell utters the immortal (unfortunately) words, Look at that little monkey go! (Apologies for any offense made.) There was a fork in his career as well after that. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 18:21:31 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] African American Football players say they won't work for Rush When you are in the moment and not expecting things some people wait for a reaction from the audience before gaining the courage to say anything. Just another WTF??? moment... Remember the Jimmy the Greek incident? One of the most famous quotes on tv The black is a better athlete to begin with because he's been bred to be that way — because of his high thighs and big thighs that goes up into his back, and they can jump higher and run faster because of their bigger thighs. This goes back all the way to the Civil War when during the slave trading, the owner — the slave owner would breed his big black to his big woman so that he could have a big black kid. After that remark his career was pretty much over. On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 6:09 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Yeah, but I'm talking about what happened *on* camera. They just sat there and looked at him. Now, granted, they were taken off guard, but guys who can run their mouths all the time to critique athletes and coaches and stuff, I expect to be able to come back quickly. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 8:09:25 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] African American Football players say they won't work for Rush We don't know what happened off camera. The director of the show may have cut their mic or it was edited out completely. That is the danger of tv production. You can alter reality to how you see fit. On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Limbaugh is a bigot, pure and simple. I am amazed at ESPN hiring him as a commentator a few years back. And what did he do? Within a short time, claimed the media was being soft on Donovan McNabb just because he was black. I was so pissed at that I almost threw something at the television. To this day i'm not at all clear why they did that. I was also upset that the blacks on the show that day didn't argue with him: they can spend all their time yelling about who was the greatest player in their day, but let that racist rant on like that. At any rate, this is horrible. Of course, as is always the way with this, the mainstream will turn it on us and say so now you want to judge people like this and they'll find some black person who's a member of the NAACP or something, and try to block him from owning a team with whites on it. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 6:05:32 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] African American Football players say they won't work for Rush I couldn't pass this story up. Rush Limbaugh wants to buy the St. Louis Rams, black players say they would boycott the team. I don't blame them at all. http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-random11-2009oct11,0,6499393.story -- Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
RE: [scifinoir2] FW: Gandhi Wuz Robbed - A Conversation on the Prize
LMNAATWO! If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com; cdemorse...@yahoo.com; sincere1...@gmail.com; ggs...@yahoo.com From: tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 14:43:09 -0700 Subject: [scifinoir2] FW: Gandhi Wuz Robbed - A Conversation on the Prize From: kalpub...@aol.com [mailto:kalpub...@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 8:43 AM To: cinque3...@verizon.net; keithbjohn...@comcast.net; foxxb...@yahoo.com The New York Times October 11, 2009 Op-Ed Columnist Gandhi Wuz Robbed By MAUREEN DOWD When he heard the Nobel Peace Prize shocker on Friday, Bill Clinton went into one of his purple rages. He picked up the phone and dialed the one person on earth who would be as steamed as he was. CLINTON: Hey, man, it’s me. This thing is plumb crazy. Can you believe it? W: No way, Jose! CLINTON: First that prig Carter. Then that prig Gore. And now President Paris Hilton. The guy’s in office three days and he gets the peace prize? He should have gotten the Nobel in chemistry, because chemistry’s all he’s got. Talk about a fairy tale. This ... is ... just ... wrong! It’s killing me, man. I feel like my head’s explodin’. First I had the vast right-wing conspiracy, and now I have the vast left-wing conspiracy. W.: I hear ya, 42. As if his head wasn’t big enough. This cat is all cage, no bird. He doesn’t have a clue. CLINTON: Heck no. W.: See, I’m the one who should be mad. Let me tell you, this Norwegia thing has nothing to do with him. It’s just another way for the pinkos of the world to drop a cow patty on my legacy. All that garbage in the prize statement about how special La Bamba is for bringing back wimpy multilateral diplomacy, dialogue and negotiations, the kind my dad and Scowcroft loved. Those Nobel ninnies are so lulu left they make the U.N. look like a Fox jamboree. The rookie already got rewarded once for not being me when he got elected. Gosh, what would he do without me? CLINTON: Fine, but you never expected to win this prize. You were the quote-unquote war president and proud of it. I had to put up with a gazillion hours of Arafat’s insanity, but I guess that still wasn’t enough for those Oslo ice queens. I guess ending ethnic cleansing in Bosnia wasn’t enough, or bringing peace to Northern Ireland. And I guess my work with the Clinton Global Initiative saving lives in Africa and hanging with Bono and Barbra wasn’t enough. W.: Calm down, bro. You gotta take care of that ticker. CLINTON: It was a case of premature adulation. W.: Heh-heh-heh. Yeah, very pre-emptive, sort of like Cheney’s pre-emptive war policy. CLINTON: If they weren’t going to give it to me, they should at least have given it to the Chinese human rights movement or the Iranian protesters or AIDS workers in the Congo. Or even Bono. W.: Yeah, man. Bono. CLINTON: That would have helped make life better for the good guys and harder for the bad guys. Once again, action loses out to talk, just like with Hillary and Obama in the campaign. Nobel Prize for blah-blah-blah. Heck, I used to be considered a prett y good talker myself. W.: It’s aggravating, I agree. But look at it this way, 42. Everybody’s laughing at La Bamba. He gets a Nobel for nada. Being loved by Europeans isn’t gonna do him any good here in the U.S. of A. I whupped that Frenchy Kerry, didn’t I? CLINTON: The only peace Obama has made is bringing together the Taliban, Rush Limbaugh, the Palestinians and the Israelis to agree the guy is undeserving. It just confirms everyone’s suspicion that all this dude knows how to do is dazzle. W.: He doesn’t want to be a Decider. He wants to be a Transformer. He transformed, all right — from Miss America to Miss Universe. He’s a five-spiral crash, and getting the gold is just a r eminder of all he hasn’t done. He’s going to have to look over and see that big medallion hanging up there in the Oval, mocking him as an empty suit, a pretty boy beloved by the Blame-America-First crowd, whenever he has to send more troops to Afghanistan, or the Taliban act up, or Iran fires up for nukes. CLINTON: Maybe you’re right, George. Some winners think the Nobel’s the kiss of death. Any peace prize that goes to Henry Kissinger but not Gandhi ain’t worth a can of Alpo. Heck, if Gandhi had known he was going to lose out to Henry the K, he could have had more time to eat french fries and chase girls. W.: And finish getting dressed. Heh-heh-heh. CLINTON: Barack’s going to give that $1.4 million away to charity. I got a charity. How ’bout he just signs it over to me? Speaking of money, we need to do another of those joint lecture things. W.: I’m fairly footloose. This is
Re: [scifinoir2] Couples Retreat Scores Big at Box Office
Hehehe that is a long tradition of women of color and I couldn't agree more. On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.comwrote: Amen to that, Mr Worf. And another issue that's always gnawed on me -- when I was growing up, being raised solo by my other, I remember vividly when she began to prep me for the day when I was going to get my first haircut. She told me, repeatedly, that I was supposed to ask for what I wanted done to my head before or as I sat down and, if what ended up being done wasn't what I asked for, I was supposed to get up and walk away without paying. Yet I can't count the number of times when she or any of my sisters have gone to the shop and come home, complaining that they didn't like what the stylist had done to them. If they're paying $40 and up for the service, shouldn't they speak up that much louder? Martin (waiting for the fire to begin peppering the ground about him) If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 17:24:37 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Couples Retreat Scores Big at Box Office I think Good Hair may actually start the bigger dialog on a topic that is about 20 years overdue. Why are black women doing this to themselves when it is draining so much money from their bank accounts every month? What are the psychological implications of doing it? On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 3:40 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: I can never predict what the movie going public will like. Ever trailer I saw for Couple's Retreat made we want to stay far away from what looked like a predictable, slapstick heavy movie. I mean, scenes of a foreign hunk attracting the ladies but irritating the men...a scene with a crazed yoga instructor contorting so that his butt ends up on a man's face--oh, funny ha-ha. I also can't take either Vince Vaughn or Faizon Love in more than small doses, each getting on my nerves pretty quickly after too long. Go figure... I did see Good Hair today, which was enjoyable. Funny moments, but not rolling on the floor funny. My one criticism is that Chris Rock was a bit too outside the subject matter. He showed a lot of the Who, What, When, Where, and How of black women straightening their hair and getting weaves, but he slighted the Why. At one point Rock told a white scientist that black women wanted to look white. At the end of the movie, it's obvious he doesn't feel that way, but he didn't really let black women speak to that point. He interviewed them about how much money they spend on salons, how often they get their hair done, how young they were when they first got a perm, the Bronner Brothers show here in Atlanta, etc. But there was precious little discussion with Black women to explain how perms make it easier to maintain their hair. Very little frank discussion with them about whether they're trying to look white. No real mention of asking them why don't you try an afro? The interviewing of celebrities (Nia Long, Salt and Peppa, etc.) didn't really add much to the conversation. It was entertaining, but it could have been a bit deeper. Were I a Black woman, I'd come away feeling Rock didn't really let the full story play out on screen. I'm actually looking forward to the documentary about LeBron James' and his friends' march to the national high school basketball championship. *** http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i30e7feb16ddb02072c2eafb4d6b13179 'Couples' tops boxoffice 'Paranormal' finishes with $7.1 mil in first full weekend By Carl DiOrio Oct 11, 2009, 11:54 AM ET [image: hr/photos/stylus/105219-couples_retreat_341x182.jpg] Related Couples Retreat tops boxoffice Fridayhttp://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i30e7feb16ddb020785ba51ead0205db4 Video: Box Office Tallyhttp://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/film/news/e3ieb794c2afa5545413cc281e96fc1ffd1 Film Review -- Couples Retreathttp://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/film-reviews/couples-retreat-film-review-1004020287.story Finally, some good news for Universal. The recently struggling studio topped the weekend boxoffice, as its ensemble comedy Couples Retreathttp://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/film-reviews/couples-retreat-film-review-1004020287.storyroused older date-night couples in big numbers to ring up an estimated $35.3 million in opening domestic coin. The winning performance came during a relatively quiet fall session, with the rest of the top spots filled by holdover pics. But with Universal Pictures replacing its top two execs last week following a summer-long boxoffice drought, the feat was no less
Re: [scifinoir2] African American Football players say they won'twork for Rush
I think there may be something going on like that with them. They have a lot of potential but consistently mess up the entire season. They have a lot of issues and this year the coach might be going to jail for assault! Davis is a nutjob and a bully that often threatens to move the team when he doesn't get his way. On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.comwrote: The Raiders must've been in on it as well, then. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: dar...@darylelockhart.com Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 17:50:05 -0400 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] African American Football players say they won'twork for Rush The way the Rams played today, looks like they've already started their strike. Daryle On Oct 11, 2009, at 1:41 PM, efhay...@yahoo.com wrote: Yeah, ESPN shouldn't have hired him, but the instant Limbaugh spewed that crap you had 2 black men on the stage who remained silent. THAT pissed me off more than Rush's b.s.! In fact, Tom Jackson addressed the Limbaugh statement only AFTER he was fired. But you know, if truth be told, I don't think Limbaugh differs much from other NFL owners. They just don't have daily radio shows. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -- *From: * Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net *Date: *Sun, 11 Oct 2009 17:30:12 + (UTC) *To: *scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com *Subject: *Re: [scifinoir2] African American Football players say they won't work for Rush Limbaugh is a bigot, pure and simple. I am amazed at ESPN hiring him as a commentator a few years back. And what did he do? Within a short time, claimed the media was being soft on Donovan McNabb just because he was black. I was so pissed at that I almost threw something at the television. To this day i'm not at all clear why they did that. I was also upset that the blacks on the show that day didn't argue with him: they can spend all their time yelling about who was the greatest player in their day, but let that racist rant on like that. At any rate, this is horrible. Of course, as is always the way with this, the mainstream will turn it on us and say so now you want to judge people like this and they'll find some black person who's a member of the NAACP or something, and try to block him from owning a team with whites on it. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 6:05:32 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] African American Football players say they won't work for Rush I couldn't pass this story up. Rush Limbaugh wants to buy the St. Louis Rams, black players say they would boycott the team. I don't blame them at all. http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-random11-2009oct11,0,6499393.story -- Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now.http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ -- Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] African American Football players say they won't work for Rush
Yea Cosell had a few quotes back in the day that was pretty out there. I remember once that he told OJ that he didn't understand a word that he was saying when he visited him in the booth during monday night football. On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 9:29 AM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.comwrote: Also, Mr Worf, allow me to add the Moment of Infamy for one H Cosell, sportscaster, during a MNF game when the Redskins' Alvin Gentry caught a pass and, as he did some nimble dancing between would-be tacklers, Cosell utters the immortal (unfortunately) words, Look at that little monkey go! (Apologies for any offense made.) There was a fork in his career as well after that. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 18:21:31 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] African American Football players say they won't work for Rush When you are in the moment and not expecting things some people wait for a reaction from the audience before gaining the courage to say anything. Just another WTF??? moment... Remember the Jimmy the Greek incident? One of the most famous quotes on tv The black is a better athlete to begin with because he's been bred to be that way — because of his high thighs and big thighs that goes up into his back, and they can jump higher and run faster because of their bigger thighs. This goes back all the way to the Civil War when during the slave trading, the owner — the slave owner would breed his big black to his big woman so that he could have a big black kid. After that remark his career was pretty much over. On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 6:09 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: Yeah, but I'm talking about what happened *on* camera. They just sat there and looked at him. Now, granted, they were taken off guard, but guys who can run their mouths all the time to critique athletes and coaches and stuff, I expect to be able to come back quickly. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 8:09:25 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] African American Football players say they won't work for Rush We don't know what happened off camera. The director of the show may have cut their mic or it was edited out completely. That is the danger of tv production. You can alter reality to how you see fit. On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Limbaugh is a bigot, pure and simple. I am amazed at ESPN hiring him as a commentator a few years back. And what did he do? Within a short time, claimed the media was being soft on Donovan McNabb just because he was black. I was so pissed at that I almost threw something at the television. To this day i'm not at all clear why they did that. I was also upset that the blacks on the show that day didn't argue with him: they can spend all their time yelling about who was the greatest player in their day, but let that racist rant on like that. At any rate, this is horrible. Of course, as is always the way with this, the mainstream will turn it on us and say so now you want to judge people like this and they'll find some black person who's a member of the NAACP or something, and try to block him from owning a team with whites on it. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 6:05:32 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] African American Football players say they won't work for Rush I couldn't pass this story up. Rush Limbaugh wants to buy the St. Louis Rams, black players say they would boycott the team. I don't blame them at all. http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-random11-2009oct11,0,6499393.story -- Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. Get it now.http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222986/direct/01/ -- Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Singer Seriously Considering Return to X-Men Movies
The first X film has potential, but I rank it just okay. I never watch it in reruns. I watch the second flick when it's on and i'm bored because it's got some good action. I agree the atmosphere of the first flick is pretty cool in spots, but execution fails. Remember the studio was incredibly worried about ti, so they rushed production, forced it to be released much earlier than the creators wanted (in order to get a good release window),a nd thus, the movie is much shorter in length than Singer wanted. - Original Message - From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 10:19:03 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Singer Seriously Considering Return to X-Men Movies I stop and re-watch the first X-Man movie every time I run across it on cable (ATT Uverse, baby!) and I think the first part of that movie - up until the point where Storm and Cyclops rescue Wolverine and Rogue from Sabertooth and Magneto's minions is some of the finest film making that I have ever seen in super hero movie. That is all Bryan Singer. And, while I will admit the latest superman movie was less filling (especially that child trying to fill Margot Kidder's shoes) but it looked great. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: After the debacles that were X3 and Wolverine: X-Men Origins, I'm not really all that excited about this. Granted, Singer wasn't behind either of those flicks. But you have to feel the studios have big say now (he even says as much in terms of financial clout) and that makes me nervous. Also, after three flicks, I think the excitement of X movies is wearing off me given the choices made in them: Halle Berry as Storm, Ice Man and Rogue too young, key powers changed (Juggernaut, Leech, Callisto), a lackluster Dark Phoenix storyline. The energy and excitement is leaving, and I worry about the ability to make something that's closer to the comics in spirit and less just movie versions. It might be, too, that I'm leery even with Singer returning, because his weak effort in Superman Returns (overly sentimental script, some bad casting) makes me afraid of what he'll bring to a fourth X-Men movie. *** http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i30e7feb16ddb0207ec91e06b9521cbc4?imw=Y Bryan Singer wants more 'X-Men' Director of first two films has discussed return with Fox Associated Press Oct 11, 2009, 09:06 AM ET hr/photos/stylus/61119-singer_bryan_341x182.jpg Bryan Singer is interested in directing another 'X-Men.' (Getty) BUSAN -- Bryan Singer said Sunday he's interested in making another X-Men movie and has discussed the possibility with Twentieth Century Fox. The American director made X-Men and X2: X-Men United, but passed on the third installment so he could make Superman Returns.Rush Hour director Brett Ratner ended up shooting that film, X-Men: The Last Stand. South African filmmaker Gavin Hood made another spin-off, X-Men Origins: Wolverine, which was released earlier this year. I'm still looking to possibly returning to the 'X-Men' franchise. I've been talking to Fox about it, Singer said at a talk at South Korea's Pusan International Film Festival. I love Hugh Jackman. I love the cast, he said, referring to the Australian actor who plays Wolverine. Singer said he enjoyed making science fiction and fantasy movies because they allowed him to discuss serious issues through entertainment. He said the X-Men series, which follows a group of mutants with superpowers who struggle to fit in with humans, is about tolerance and social structures. He said he likes to trick audiences into thinking they're seeing fireworks, but they're learning about themselves and listening to what I have to say. The excitement about working in science fiction and fantasy is †the stories, if they are good, are about the human condition, Singer said. Appearing at a panel discussion with South Korean director Kim Ji-woon, the American director also said he appreciated the creative freedom South Korean filmmakers enjoyed to make the final cut, compared to Hollywood, where directors must negotiate with studio executives. Hollywood movie budgets are so high that the risk is too great to leave it in the hands of a filmmaker, he said, adding that he has a responsibility to help studios feel secure in their investments. Singer made his name with the 1995 critically acclaimed thriller The Usual Suspects but later earned a strong following among comic books fans for his adaptations of popular comic book series.
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Singer Seriously Considering Return to X-Men Movies
Agreed on Superman Returns, it looks fantastic. Three scenes stay with me that feel incredibly cool and mythic. One is when Metropolis is shaken by quakes, and Superman is flying through the city. There's a scene where debris falls from the buildings and Supes, having flown past the site, rolls over in mid-flight, still flying *away* from the debris, but sends his heat vision back to incinerate it. I love it when movies showcase flying--whether it's spaceships or superheroes--outside the norm. Earlier is the scene when Clark is floating above Earth, listening to thousands of conversations like some kind of beneficent demigod, then speeding back down when he hears an emergency. And then there's the whole scene with the island Luthor creates. When Luthor stabs Superman with the Green K shard, that was awesome (I much prefer the sinister Luthor to the joking one and which Spacey could have just stayed in the sinister mode, like the animated series Luthor voiced by Clancy Brown). Later, when Supes flies up to the clouds to recharge, then lifts the island to space, while the Green K is killing him, then falls to Earth--that was damn mythic! Singer had so many moments right, and imbued some scenes with powerful emotion. He was just too sentimental in the love story between Lois and Clark, and as you say, the choice for Lois really hurt the movie. - Original Message - From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 10:19:03 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Singer Seriously Considering Return to X-Men Movies I stop and re-watch the first X-Man movie every time I run across it on cable (ATT Uverse, baby!) and I think the first part of that movie - up until the point where Storm and Cyclops rescue Wolverine and Rogue from Sabertooth and Magneto's minions is some of the finest film making that I have ever seen in super hero movie. That is all Bryan Singer. And, while I will admit the latest superman movie was less filling (especially that child trying to fill Margot Kidder's shoes) but it looked great. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: After the debacles that were X3 and Wolverine: X-Men Origins, I'm not really all that excited about this. Granted, Singer wasn't behind either of those flicks. But you have to feel the studios have big say now (he even says as much in terms of financial clout) and that makes me nervous. Also, after three flicks, I think the excitement of X movies is wearing off me given the choices made in them: Halle Berry as Storm, Ice Man and Rogue too young, key powers changed (Juggernaut, Leech, Callisto), a lackluster Dark Phoenix storyline. The energy and excitement is leaving, and I worry about the ability to make something that's closer to the comics in spirit and less just movie versions. It might be, too, that I'm leery even with Singer returning, because his weak effort in Superman Returns (overly sentimental script, some bad casting) makes me afraid of what he'll bring to a fourth X-Men movie. *** http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i30e7feb16ddb0207ec91e06b9521cbc4?imw=Y Bryan Singer wants more 'X-Men' Director of first two films has discussed return with Fox Associated Press Oct 11, 2009, 09:06 AM ET hr/photos/stylus/61119-singer_bryan_341x182.jpg Bryan Singer is interested in directing another 'X-Men.' (Getty) BUSAN -- Bryan Singer said Sunday he's interested in making another X-Men movie and has discussed the possibility with Twentieth Century Fox. The American director made X-Men and X2: X-Men United, but passed on the third installment so he could make Superman Returns.Rush Hour director Brett Ratner ended up shooting that film, X-Men: The Last Stand. South African filmmaker Gavin Hood made another spin-off, X-Men Origins: Wolverine, which was released earlier this year. I'm still looking to possibly returning to the 'X-Men' franchise. I've been talking to Fox about it, Singer said at a talk at South Korea's Pusan International Film Festival. I love Hugh Jackman. I love the cast, he said, referring to the Australian actor who plays Wolverine. Singer said he enjoyed making science fiction and fantasy movies because they allowed him to discuss serious issues through entertainment. He said the X-Men series, which follows a group of mutants with superpowers who struggle to fit in with humans, is about tolerance and social structures. He said he likes to trick audiences into thinking they're seeing fireworks, but they're learning about themselves and listening to what I have to say. The excitement about working in science fiction and fantasy is †the stories, if they are good, are about the human
RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Singer Seriously Considering Return to X-Men Movies
Keith, the first time I saw that scene that ended with Supes falling back to Earth, I held my breath until I almost passed out. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19:12:05 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Singer Seriously Considering Return to X-Men Movies Agreed on Superman Returns, it looks fantastic. Three scenes stay with me that feel incredibly cool and mythic. One is when Metropolis is shaken by quakes, and Superman is flying through the city. There's a scene where debris falls from the buildings and Supes, having flown past the site, rolls over in mid-flight, still flying *away* from the debris, but sends his heat vision back to incinerate it. I love it when movies showcase flying--whether it's spaceships or superheroes--outside the norm. Earlier is the scene when Clark is floating above Earth, listening to thousands of conversations like some kind of beneficent demigod, then speeding back down when he hears an emergency. And then there's the whole scene with the island Luthor creates. When Luthor stabs Superman with the Green K shard, that was awesome (I much prefer the sinister Luthor to the joking one and which Spacey could have just stayed in the sinister mode, like the animated series Luthor voiced by Clancy Brown). Later, when Supes flies up to the clouds to recharge, then lifts the island to space, while the Green K is killing him, then falls to Earth--that was damn mythic! Singer had so many moments right, and imbued some scenes with powerful emotion. He was just too sentimental in the love story between Lois and Clark, and as you say, the choice for Lois really hurt the movie. - Original Message - From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 10:19:03 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Singer Seriously Considering Return to X-Men Movies I stop and re-watch the first X-Man movie every time I run across it on cable (ATT Uverse, baby!) and I think the first part of that movie - up until the point where Storm and Cyclops rescue Wolverine and Rogue from Sabertooth and Magneto's minions is some of the finest film making that I have ever seen in super hero movie. That is all Bryan Singer. And, while I will admit the latest superman movie was less filling (especially that child trying to fill Margot Kidder's shoes) but it looked great. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: After the debacles that were X3 and Wolverine: X-Men Origins, I'm not really all that excited about this. Granted, Singer wasn't behind either of those flicks. But you have to feel the studios have big say now (he even says as much in terms of financial clout) and that makes me nervous. Also, after three flicks, I think the excitement of X movies is wearing off me given the choices made in them: Halle Berry as Storm, Ice Man and Rogue too young, key powers changed (Juggernaut, Leech, Callisto), a lackluster Dark Phoenix storyline. The energy and excitement is leaving, and I worry about the ability to make something that's closer to the comics in spirit and less just movie versions. It might be, too, that I'm leery even with Singer returning, because his weak effort in Superman Returns (overly sentimental script, some bad casting) makes me afraid of what he'll bring to a fourth X-Men movie. *** http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i30e7feb16ddb0207ec91e06b9521cbc4?imw=Y Bryan Singer wants more 'X-Men' Director of first two films has discussed return with Fox Associated Press Oct 11, 2009, 09:06 AM ET hr/photos/stylus/61119-singer_bryan_341x182.jpg Bryan Singer is interested in directing another 'X-Men.' (Getty) BUSAN -- Bryan Singer said Sunday he's interested in making another X-Men movie and has discussed the possibility with Twentieth Century Fox. The American director made X-Men and X2: X-Men United, but passed on the third installment so he could make Superman Returns.Rush Hour director Brett Ratner ended up shooting that film, X-Men: The Last Stand. South African filmmaker Gavin Hood made another spin-off, X-Men Origins: Wolverine, which was released earlier this year. I'm still looking to possibly returning to the 'X-Men' franchise. I've been talking to Fox about it, Singer said at a talk at South Korea's Pusan International Film Festival. I love Hugh Jackman. I love the cast, he said, referring to the Australian actor who plays Wolverine. Singer said he enjoyed making science fiction and fantasy
RE: [scifinoir2] African American Football players say they won't work for Rush
I was sitting in the floor in front of my TV when he said it. I jumped up onto my bed, fetal and cringing, knowing that heck was about to pay a visit over that. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: efhay...@yahoo.com Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 17:01:45 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] African American Football players say they won't work for Rush Yep, I remember watching that live with my father. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 12:29:19 -0400To: SciFiNoir2scifinoir2@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [scifinoir2] African American Football players say they won't work for Rush Also, Mr Worf, allow me to add the Moment of Infamy for one H Cosell, sportscaster, during a MNF game when the Redskins' Alvin Gentry caught a pass and, as he did some nimble dancing between would-be tacklers, Cosell utters the immortal (unfortunately) words, Look at that little monkey go! (Apologies for any offense made.) There was a fork in his career as well after that. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 18:21:31 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] African American Football players say they won't work for Rush When you are in the moment and not expecting things some people wait for a reaction from the audience before gaining the courage to say anything. Just another WTF??? moment... Remember the Jimmy the Greek incident? One of the most famous quotes on tv The black is a better athlete to begin with because he's been bred to be that way — because of his high thighs and big thighs that goes up into his back, and they can jump higher and run faster because of their bigger thighs. This goes back all the way to the Civil War when during the slave trading, the owner — the slave owner would breed his big black to his big woman so that he could have a big black kid. After that remark his career was pretty much over. On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 6:09 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Yeah, but I'm talking about what happened *on* camera. They just sat there and looked at him. Now, granted, they were taken off guard, but guys who can run their mouths all the time to critique athletes and coaches and stuff, I expect to be able to come back quickly. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 8:09:25 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] African American Football players say they won't work for Rush We don't know what happened off camera. The director of the show may have cut their mic or it was edited out completely. That is the danger of tv production. You can alter reality to how you see fit. On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Limbaugh is a bigot, pure and simple. I am amazed at ESPN hiring him as a commentator a few years back. And what did he do? Within a short time, claimed the media was being soft on Donovan McNabb just because he was black. I was so pissed at that I almost threw something at the television. To this day i'm not at all clear why they did that. I was also upset that the blacks on the show that day didn't argue with him: they can spend all their time yelling about who was the greatest player in their day, but let that racist rant on like that. At any rate, this is horrible. Of course, as is always the way with this, the mainstream will turn it on us and say so now you want to judge people like this and they'll find some black person who's a member of the NAACP or something, and try to block him from owning a team with whites on it. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 6:05:32 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] African American Football players say they won't work for Rush I couldn't pass this story up. Rush Limbaugh wants to buy the St. Louis Rams, black players say they would boycott the team. I don't blame them at all. http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-random11-2009oct11,0,6499393.story -- Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
RE: [scifinoir2] Couples Retreat Scores Big at Box Office
Now let's see if the women *here* agree with you. I hope they don't throw high heels. Those things *hurt*. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 10:50:59 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Couples Retreat Scores Big at Box Office Hehehe that is a long tradition of women of color and I couldn't agree more. On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: Amen to that, Mr Worf. And another issue that's always gnawed on me -- when I was growing up, being raised solo by my other, I remember vividly when she began to prep me for the day when I was going to get my first haircut. She told me, repeatedly, that I was supposed to ask for what I wanted done to my head before or as I sat down and, if what ended up being done wasn't what I asked for, I was supposed to get up and walk away without paying. Yet I can't count the number of times when she or any of my sisters have gone to the shop and come home, complaining that they didn't like what the stylist had done to them. If they're paying $40 and up for the service, shouldn't they speak up that much louder? Martin (waiting for the fire to begin peppering the ground about him) If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 17:24:37 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Couples Retreat Scores Big at Box Office I think Good Hair may actually start the bigger dialog on a topic that is about 20 years overdue. Why are black women doing this to themselves when it is draining so much money from their bank accounts every month? What are the psychological implications of doing it? On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 3:40 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: I can never predict what the movie going public will like. Ever trailer I saw for Couple's Retreat made we want to stay far away from what looked like a predictable, slapstick heavy movie. I mean, scenes of a foreign hunk attracting the ladies but irritating the men...a scene with a crazed yoga instructor contorting so that his butt ends up on a man's face--oh, funny ha-ha. I also can't take either Vince Vaughn or Faizon Love in more than small doses, each getting on my nerves pretty quickly after too long. Go figure... I did see Good Hair today, which was enjoyable. Funny moments, but not rolling on the floor funny. My one criticism is that Chris Rock was a bit too outside the subject matter. He showed a lot of the Who, What, When, Where, and How of black women straightening their hair and getting weaves, but he slighted the Why. At one point Rock told a white scientist that black women wanted to look white. At the end of the movie, it's obvious he doesn't feel that way, but he didn't really let black women speak to that point. He interviewed them about how much money they spend on salons, how often they get their hair done, how young they were when they first got a perm, the Bronner Brothers show here in Atlanta, etc. But there was precious little discussion with Black women to explain how perms make it easier to maintain their hair. Very little frank discussion with them about whether they're trying to look white. No real mention of asking them why don't you try an afro? The interviewing of celebrities (Nia Long, Salt and Peppa, etc.) didn't really add much to the conversation. It was entertaining, but it could have been a bit deeper. Were I a Black woman, I'd come away feeling Rock didn't really let the full story play out on screen. I'm actually looking forward to the documentary about LeBron James' and his friends' march to the national high school basketball championship. *** http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i30e7feb16ddb02072c2eafb4d6b13179 'Couples' tops boxoffice 'Paranormal' finishes with $7.1 mil in first full weekend By Carl DiOrio Oct 11, 2009, 11:54 AM ET Related Couples Retreat tops boxoffice Friday Video: Box Office Tally Film Review -- Couples Retreat Finally, some good news for Universal. The recently struggling studio topped the weekend boxoffice, as its ensemble comedy Couples Retreat roused older date-night couples in big numbers to ring up an estimated $35.3 million in opening domestic coin. The winning performance came during a relatively quiet fall session, with the rest of the top spots filled by holdover pics. But
RE: [scifinoir2] African American Football players say they won'twork for Rush
You left out one word regarding Al. Senile. If he has kids, they should've taken control of the franchise away from him years ago, for its own good. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 10:57:16 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] African American Football players say they won'twork for Rush I think there may be something going on like that with them. They have a lot of potential but consistently mess up the entire season. They have a lot of issues and this year the coach might be going to jail for assault! Davis is a nutjob and a bully that often threatens to move the team when he doesn't get his way. On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: The Raiders must've been in on it as well, then. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: dar...@darylelockhart.com Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 17:50:05 -0400 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] African American Football players say they won'twork for Rush The way the Rams played today, looks like they've already started their strike. Daryle On Oct 11, 2009, at 1:41 PM, efhay...@yahoo.com wrote: Yeah, ESPN shouldn't have hired him, but the instant Limbaugh spewed that crap you had 2 black men on the stage who remained silent. THAT pissed me off more than Rush's b.s.! In fact, Tom Jackson addressed the Limbaugh statement only AFTER he was fired. But you know, if truth be told, I don't think Limbaugh differs much from other NFL owners. They just don't have daily radio shows. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 17:30:12 + (UTC)To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [scifinoir2] African American Football players say they won't work for Rush Limbaugh is a bigot, pure and simple. I am amazed at ESPN hiring him as a commentator a few years back. And what did he do? Within a short time, claimed the media was being soft on Donovan McNabb just because he was black. I was so pissed at that I almost threw something at the television. To this day i'm not at all clear why they did that. I was also upset that the blacks on the show that day didn't argue with him: they can spend all their time yelling about who was the greatest player in their day, but let that racist rant on like that. At any rate, this is horrible. Of course, as is always the way with this, the mainstream will turn it on us and say so now you want to judge people like this and they'll find some black person who's a member of the NAACP or something, and try to block him from owning a team with whites on it. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 6:05:32 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] African American Football players say they won't work for Rush I couldn't pass this story up. Rush Limbaugh wants to buy the St. Louis Rams, black players say they would boycott the team. I don't blame them at all. http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-random11-2009oct11,0,6499393.story -- Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. -- Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ _ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222984/direct/01/
[scifinoir2] Little Johnny
Little Johnnie's neighbor had a baby. Unfortunately, the baby was born without ears. When mother and new baby came home from the hospital, Johnnie's family was invited over to see the baby. Before they left their house, Little Johnnie's dad had a talk with him and explained that the baby had no ears. His dad also told him that if he so much mentioned anything about the baby's missing ears or even said the word ears, he would get the smacking of his life when they came back home. Little Johnnie told his dad he understood completely. When Johnnie looked in the crib he said, What a beautiful baby. The mother said, Why, thank you, Little Johnnie. Johnnie said, He has beautiful little feet and beautiful little hands, a cute little nose and really beautiful eyes. Can he see? Yes, the mother replied, we are so thankful; the Doctor said he will have 20/20 vision. That's great, said Little Johnnie, coz he'd be fucked if he needed glasses.
[scifinoir2] OT: Alex Massie on Glen Beck's Program in Britain
[Beck]...treats the American people as though they are a peculiarly wretched breed of lemming, hell-bent on their own destruction and powerless to resist the evil machinations of a far-left international revolutionary brotherhood. On Planet Beck, the map is littered with dark places warning Americans that Here Be Monsters. This essay reminds me much of the ones I've read from across the Pond dealing with everything from how America could have re-elected Bush to another term, to how people like Palin were allowed to bring such overt racism into the campaign. I love his characterization of Beck as someone who sometimes resembles a snake-oil salesman’s dim-witted assistant accidentally promoted to the top job *** http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-10-11/glenn-beck-goes-global/ The Fox News host has arrived in Britain, courtesy of Rupert Murdoch—and has already lost a sponsor . Alex Massie on how Beck’s outrageous brand of conservatism is playing across the pond. Glenn Beck has busted out of the United States. Thanks to Rupert Murdoch’s Sky Television, which carries the Fox News Channel in the United Kingdom, political junkies in Britain are able to tune in to the Great Entertainer’s latest plans to awaken the United States from sleepwalking toward disaster. Watching Beck, who sometimes resembles a snake-oil salesman’s dim-witted assistant accidentally promoted to the top job, makes a foreigner wonder just what’s happening to American conservatism. I confess that I find it impossible to determine whether Beck’s show is serious or, as seems more probable, an elaborate practical joke played on his unwitting audience. I don’t want to seem forward or rude, but one can’t help but ask: Have you people lost your minds? Beck’s show is more than a mere entertainment; it also demonstrates how far American popular conservatism hasdiverged from its counterparts in Britain and the rest of Europe. Beck’s show is more than a mere entertainment; it also demonstrates how far American popular conservatism has diverged from its counterparts in Britain and the rest of Europe. There have always been differences, some of them major, between the GOP and Britain’s Tories, but until recently they were recognizably members of the same family, sharing common ancestors and a particular worldview. The relationship between Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher was based on their shared philosophical understanding of conservative values as much as it was on their personal affinity. But while British Tories share elements of the U.S. conservatives’ analysis of foreign-policy threats, domestically their paths have diverged. David Cameron’s “progressive Tories” bear little resemblance to the Republican Party of Sarah Palin and Mike Huckabee. Increasingly, British Tories wonder what has happened to their American relatives. It’s as if your favorite cousin had a nervous breakdown, found religion, and became an evangelist for an apocalyptic cult prophesying the imminent end of the world as we know and love it. The scale of this trans-Atlantic distancing was revealed by a survey last year that found that 48 percent of prospective Tory MPs supported Barack Obama’s presidential campaign. Tellingly, the Republicans invited to speak at Conservative Party conferences in recent years—Arnold Schwarzenegger and John McCain—are the kind most despised by many grassroots conservatives in the United States. Beck’s brand of conservatism could scarcely be more alien to a Brit. Its startling popularity in the United States would once have been an underground phenomenon; now, thanks to satellite television, the issues and attitudes that animate the conservative base can be seen, in all their gruesome glory, across the world. Of course, not all American conservatives worship at the shrine of Brother Glenn, but voices like his carry loudest. If a mere foreigner may say so, it is striking how little faith Beck and his followers have in the country they profess to love so much. Beck may shed patriotic tears on a near-nightly basis, but he treats the American people as though they are a peculiarly wretched breed of lemming, hell-bent on their own destruction and powerless to resist the evil machinations of a far-left international revolutionary brotherhood. On Planet Beck, the map is littered with dark places warning Americans that Here Be Monsters. Europe, it seems, is one such place. President Obama, we are told, wants to destroy America and remake it as a European-style socialist quasi-democracy. Yet socialism, as its founders would have understood it, has been dead in Europe for at least 20 years. As for Obama’s creeping totalitarianism, it’s painful to imagine what a Czech or a Pole or a Romanian might have to say about that. In the end, I wonder if Beck even wants to win. Like most cult
[scifinoir2] Black Dynamite Brings Blaxploitation Back This Weekend
Okay, this could be really funny if it's been done right. I've seen a couple of trailers, and they made me laugh out loud. there's one in which Michael Jai White's character menaces an old woman that was really funny. Think I'll be check it out this weekend... http://www.blackdynamitemovie.com/ When “The Man” murders his brother, pumps heroin into local orphanages, and floods the ghetto with adulterated malt liquor, Black Dynamite is the one hero willing to fight all the way from the blood-soaked city streets to the hallowed halls of the Honky House.
[scifinoir2] Law Abiding Citizen Out this Friday
Well, well, well, maybe I have two movies to see this weekend: this one and Black Dynamite. LAC appears to be an entertaining action picture. Hey, what's up with Gerard Butler recently that he's getting so many movies? Romantic comedies, thrillers, scifi? He's been everywhere. By the way, I noticed in the trailer that Colm Chief O'Brien Meaney is also starring in this flick. Oh heck, isn't Where the Wild Things Are also debuting this weekend? * http://www.lawabidingcitizenfilm.com/ Law Abiding Citizen is a thriller about a brilliant sociopath who orchestrates a series of high-profile murders that grip the city of Philadelphia - all from inside his jail cell - and the prosecutor assigned to his case who realizes he is the only one who can end the reign of terror.
[scifinoir2] And The Stepfather Remake too?!
Not too sure how I feel about this one. The original one--starring Lost/X-Files/Millennium alum Terry O'Quinn--was an understated, slow-paced creepy thriller. One wonders if the creators of this one can or will capture that same feeling of suspense, or just go with the modern trend of throwing as much over-the-top action and blood at the audience as possible. I wonder how the star --from Nip/Tuck will play in the lead? O'Quinn was really creepy. I will say, it's got Sela Ward, and I respect her as an actress--not to mention I could watch her all day long! Anyone going to see this remake? I think this is out this weekend too, along with Black Dynamite, Law Abiding Citizen, and Where the Wild Things Are. Lots to chose from...
[scifinoir2] Post racial America: White Miss Hampton Controversy
Apparently the alumni are up in arms about this selection. On a humorous note, they are wondering how this white woman is going to have the proper hatitude to wear the hat in the homecoming parade. ~rave! http://iechaik.notlong.com Miss Hampton University is a white girl this year and she has been getting scrutinized to no end. Nikole Churchill wrote a letter to President Obama about her plight: Subject: Hampton University To: President Barack Obama October 11, 2009 Aloha Mr. Obama! My name is Nikole Churchill, a senior nursing major at Hampton University. This past Friday October 9, 2009, I was honored to be crowned Miss Hampton University 2009-2010. It truly was the best night of my life! With that being said, I am sad to say that my crowning was not widely accepted and many negative comments regarding my win have been shared throughout my campus. It would be much easier to say that possibly some were not accepting of the news because I wasn't the most qualified contestant; however, the true reason for the disapproval was because of the color of my skin. I am not African-American. Despite the unfortunate beliefs that some are saying I should not have won, I am desperately trying to focus on those who believe in me and support me and my goal to represent this beautiful, multicultural campus the very best way that I can. I would love your help! I am hoping that perhaps you would be able to make an appearance to my campus, Hampton University, so that my fellow Hamptonians can stop focusing so much on the color of my skin and doubting my abilities to represent, but rather be proud of the changes our nation is making towards accepting diversity. People are even nicknaming me, lil Obama because of various reasons. This is truly an honor as well! I am also from Hawaii (Wahiawa) and I am hoping that you can assist me in opening some closed minds and help share some aloha spirit throughout my campus. I feel as though you could relate to my situation, which is why I immediately wanted to contact you. I was interviewed last night at the HU vs. HU football game by news channel 13 and I mentioned how individuals such as you and myself are making changes in hopes people can stop placing so much focus on our skin color by letting that define what we can, cannot, should, and/or should not do. Dr. Harvey welcomed me last night to the family with open arms and I was beyond honored when he told me that he is behind me 100%. I am proud to represent Hampton University and I am so proud having you to represent our home, our country. Your support with my crowning as Miss Hampton University 2009-2010 would be graciously appreciated. Please reply, I will be looking forward to it! -Nikole Churchill Virginia Beach , VA
