Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS
My thoughts on SAAB (which I do like alot is this). The pilot episode and the first 2 eps were great, then it went sort of down hill from there. -GTW ** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222846709x1201493018/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072amp; hmpgID=115amp;bcd=JulystepsfooterNO115)
Re: [scifinoir2] SeaQuest DSV,
Yeup. The first season was actually decent TV (hell, many times they even tried to pay some attention to realism an detail). -GTW In a message dated 7/18/09 6:31:24 AM, brotherfromhow...@yahoo.com writes: Haven't watched since it aired on NBC. If this show didn't jump the shark it could have been real good. ** Snoop, Lil Wayne, Lady GaGa -- land the tix you need for this summer's biggest tours. Tourtracker.com (http://www.tourtracker.com/?ncid=emlcntusmusi0007)
Re: [scifinoir2] Ryan Reynolds casts as Green Lanthern
I feel the same. Plus DC and Warner can all but kiss a possible GL francize goodbye due to this movie all but deepening it's already fragmented fanbase (as many John fans have al but bolted the comic and DC in general for Marvel due to their treatment of him). -GTW In a message dated 7/11/09 9:02:48 AM, brotherfromhow...@yahoo.com writes: Reyonds is the Hollywood beefcake flavor of the month.His casting is a sign that character development be damned.This has Daredevil written all over it. --- On Sat, 7/11/09, Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Ryan Reynolds casts as Green Lanthern To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, July 11, 2009, 6:52 AM yes you will probably be alone in that one. the reason I like Steward is because his character is more human than hal jordan or kyle. Stewart is a more complex person with flaws that makes him likeable. i never like the original origin of hal becoming GL. ring searches out the man without fear. truth be, they did make hal better later, but i just like Jon Stewart (also because both of us serve in the Marine Corps...but that's just me). Fate. --- On Sat, 7/11/09, Omari Confer clockworkman@ gmail.com wrote: From: Omari Confer clockworkman@ gmail.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Ryan Reynolds casts as Green Lanthern To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Saturday, July 11, 2009, 6:34 AM I missed Martin's point of view but I am not sure about how I would feel about a Jon Stewart GL in the movie. I know I will be alone on this but I find it more insulting to put in the 3rd favorite Lantern in the first live action GL movie just for Affirmative Action sake. Reynolds is a great choice ** Summer concert season is here! Find your favorite artists on tour at TourTracker.com. (http://www.tourtracker.com/?ncid=emlcntusmusi0006)
Re: [scifinoir2] for the Gamers (Roll Cal l: Name Your Favorite Games) Pt 2
Fav Computer games: City of Heros Diablo II Fav Paper RPGs Mekton Mutants Masterminds Cyberpunk Heavy Gear Jovian Chronicles Gear Kreg Fusion -GTW In a message dated 6/23/09 5:57:58 PM, votom...@yahoo.com writes: Aubrey and Adrianne's post reminded me that hamers tend to stay hidden on this list. Let's change that Why don't you guys come out of hiding. Please declare your favorites, the ones you would like to see be made into movies and those you hate. Also, tell us why. Thanks Tracey ** Make your summer sizzle with fast and easy recipes for the grill. (http://food.aol.com/grilling?ncid=emlcntusfood0006)
Re: [scifinoir2] The Sad, Strange Tale of Dwayne McDuffie
Not only if it's true, but another former DC writer (Chuck Dixion I think) went thru the same crap with them (and like Dywane posted details about it on a website which I forgotten the name of).And DC wonders why many talented indies, especially after this are going over to Marvel. -GTW In a message dated 6/21/09 12:34:08 AM, clockwork...@gmail.com writes: God I hope this it 100% true because I have never seen such poor work from him... DC's got issues.and they have too many comics.. c w m On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 5:36 PM, ravenadal ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: http://comiccritics.com/2009/06/16/the-sad-strange-tale-of-dwayne-mcduffie/ -- clockworkman blog http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://www.stringtheory.mypodcast.com Netflix Friends http://www.netflix.com/BeMyFriend/P5Vr384ukvNnY78xUJOT ** An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221823273x1201398689/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072amp;hmpgID=62amp; bcd=JuneExcfooterNO62)
Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Brother Voodoo gets his Doctorate
It's already started. Just take a look at the various comic message boards for details. -GTW In a message dated 6/22/09 9:19:39 AM, daikaij...@yahoo.com writes: I can't wait to hear the fan backlash at this development. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote: Brother rave, you keep throwing these yummy cookies out in front of me... And, odd thing -- I was wondering just last week who the Sorceror Supreme was, knowing that Strange was out of the position. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Brother Voodoo gets his Doctorate Date : Sat, 20 Jun 2009 22:46:01 - From : ravenadal ravena...@... To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com http://blackgeekdom.com/blog/2009/06/19/bendis-on-marvels-new-sorcerer-supr eme-brother-voodoo/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brother_Voodoo ** An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221823273x1201398689/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072amp;hmpgID=62amp; bcd=JuneExcfooterNO62)
Re: [scifinoir2] David Carradine's Legacy of Shame
In a message dated 6/6/09 2:30:02 PM, hellomahog...@gmail.com writes: It may have been a opinion. But IMO it was a damn good honest one. One that I liked a lot. -GTW Wow now THAT was an opinion. :) On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 7:58 AM, Curtis, Jr. ccke...@sbcglobal.net wrote: This offers another look at how some Asian Americans feel about Carradine's role. Curtis, Jr. David Carradine's Legacy of Shame Thu, 06/04/2009 - 20:55 Bangkok Bruce Lee David Carradine death Kill Bill Kung Fu Kwai Chang Caine media images racist yellow face ** An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222377042x1201454362/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072amp;hmpgID=62amp; bcd=JuneExcfooterNO62)
Re: [RE][scifinoir2] The CW: Ain't No Beautiful Black People
In fact with the possible exception of Jericho (which I still think is one of CBS' unregonized gems) it would make me very happy if it actually did just go away. As it is now it's not only unwatchable it's now insulting. But that's just me. -GTW In a message dated 5/31/09 3:04:26 PM, dar...@darylelockhart.com writes: The CW ain't exactly GM. If it went away tomorrow I wonder f anybody would even notice. I haven't watched the channel in... On May 31, 2009, at 11:40 AM, Martin Baxter wrote: Well, DAY-UM... if i don't exist, then I might as well stop paying this $60/month internet bill, save myself the money. To date, there are three channels I've removed from memory on my TV; BET, Golf Channel and CW. 'Nuff said. ** An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221823251x1201398665/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072amp;hmpgID=62amp; bcd=MayExcfooterNO62)
Re: [scifinoir2] topic: They are here
In a message dated 5/14/09 1:19:13 AM, hellomahog...@gmail.com writes: Early Sunday morning the sun is shining, birds chirping. You get out of bed, open the curtains and look out the window. Out over the horizon is a large floating ship about 2/3rds the size of the horizon. They are here. It finally happened. What would you do? Turn on the BBC, and hit the internet for more news on whats happening. I wouldn't freak out-yet (after all these guys could be like ST's Federation). -GTW ** Dell Mini Netbooks: Great deals starting at $299 after instant savings! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222627952x1201458914/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.doubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B214819460%3B36680227%3Bi)
Re: [scifinoir2] New Trek- My take *SPOILERS*
In a message dated 5/10/09 4:24:35 AM, sincere1...@gmail.com writes: My great fear is that this spawns a whole Trek series that won't have some universal appeal because they adhere to any dynamic set of principles, but a Trek universe where things get blow'd up real good and the movie crowd can clap on cue. Too early to make that judgment before the next film, so we'll just have to wait and see... MHO Sin/Black Galactus I was about to stay silent on this but the paragraph above prompted me to put my .02 cents in. What Sin/Black Galactus stated is something I call The Galactica Syndrome. That is you got a show based on a earlier project that while forming it's own audiance base is shunned by most-if not all of the orignials show's base. Shows like this usually don't have that much of a long shelf-life being period 'flashes in the pan. Pre-new movie Star Trek (OST, ST:NG, ST:DS9, ST:V) while set either/or different time periods, situtations, characters, etc. could have went this way. Their was something about those shows (and the movies based on them) that fans from other shows could like and this brought in many fans from those shows. Which in turn made the great. However the flipside of this is that it produces 'lazy' exicution, that eventually results in bad products which angers and drives of the fans of those shows. Forcing efforts to bring new life into those shows. Sometimes successful, sometimes not. It depends on how much cannon they 'break' when doing it to make the show new/hip to make it acceptable to both new/old fans. This, IMO is why Enterprise was not well recieved by the pre-new movie Star Trek community. It broke too much cannon, and many of the stories weren't that good. Which is also why it didn't get that many new fans (IMO if it wasn't for the ST name Enterprise would have been canciled in it's first season). while the new Battlestar Galactica was a somewhat hit. It was not so by many fans of the old series who concider it broke too much cannon (and the fact it's creators also had 'lazy exicution' sydrome judging from it's later episodes) and this IMO the show will probally fade over time. And in my opinion I see the new Star Trek movie and it's alternate timeline will while finding intial popular support will eventually go the way of new BG as it's new fans will stick to this movie. While fans of pre-new movie ST will eventually ignore it and continue on, asking for more stuff in the pre-new movie ST background. But hey it's only my opinon. -GTW ** The Average US Credit Score is 692. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222376999x1201454299/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072amp;hmpgID=62amp; bcd=May51009AvgfooterNO62)
Re: [scifinoir2] New Trek- My take *SPOILERS*
In a message dated 5/10/09 11:45:06 AM, adrianne.bren...@gmail.com writes: I dunno. I don't see what they're doing as being any different from the reboot of Doctor Who, except with more major canonical differences. At least in the Doctor Who reboots they made a great effort to at least keep with the spirit of the show and it's cannonal history. Even if they did change it. And inspite of those changes it, In short still 'felt' like Doctor Who. -GTW ** The Average US Credit Score is 692. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222376999x1201454299/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072amp;hmpgID=62amp; bcd=May51009AvgfooterNO62)
Re: [scifinoir2] Resident Evil 5 in race storm
You make good points. But, alas I don't agree. By going this way the RE francize now has a big black mark on itself. And will drive many not only to by this game. But to avoid the francize itself now. And will give vid game critics one more weapon to hit the gendre with. -GTW In a message dated 3/14/09 1:54:20 AM, clockwork...@gmail.com writes: Either way their screwed... A black protag would rile up sharpton and crew saying its black on black crime You cant have a Res Evil game without a fan fave star. So they add one other player for co-op and make her a local...so its ok. Its questinonable...but shying away from it would be wrong... I say this because of Res. 4 The idea of creepy dirty weird speaking Europeans in farm wear scared the shit out of me. That was partly why I loved the game. its easily one of the Greatest Games of All Time.. So...in all fairness..creepy dirty weird speaking Africans in Tribal gear will scare the shit out of me too Unfortunately I hear the gameplay has bugs and the AI is stupid... I hate to say it...but fair is fair On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 11:51 PM, gwashin...@aol.com wrote: That may be true (in fact it is) but the RE Franchise should have thought of this fully before picking the current direction (personally I would have had a black native african protraginist instead of a white european one-but that's me) for the series because both the imagery and the gamers commets about it disturb me also. This will add one more black mark on both the RE Franchise and the gaming community itself when all is said and done. -GTW ** Worried about job security? Check out the 5 safest jobs in a recession. (http://jobs.aol.com/gallery/growing-job-industries?ncid=emlcntuscare0002)
Re: [scifinoir2] Resident Evil 5 in race storm
That may be true (in fact it is) but the RE Franchise should have thought of this fully before picking the current direction (personally I would have had a black native african protraginist instead of a white european one-but that's me) for the series because both the imagery and the gamers commets about it disturb me also. This will add one more black mark on both the RE Franchise and the gaming community itself when all is said and done. -GTW In a message dated 3/14/09 12:41:33 AM, clockwork...@gmail.com writes: In defense.the Res. Evil Franchise made it clear that the virus started in Africa... this has been a long time coming... I am concerned about some of the imagery though.. On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 3:56 PM, brent wodehouse brent_wodeho...@thefence.us wrote: http://videogames.yahoo.com/feature/resident-evil-5-in-race-storm/1295905 FEATURE Resident Evil 5 in race storm Pits white hero against primitive African villagers By Mike Smith Set in a fictional African country, the latest in the critically-acclaimed Resident Evil [http://videogames.yahoo.com/xbox360/resident-evil-5/] series is sparking racial controversy [http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123672060500987853.html ] over its choice of enemies. Famed for their zombie-packed gameplay, the Resident Evil games form one of gaming's longest-running horror stories. But recent episodes have adopted more modern premises, and the fifth title eschews the undead altogether, leaving the apple-pie hero to gun down armies of what the Wall Street Journal calls poor and shirtless African villagers. It's not surprising that it's aroused some interest. One of those shocked by the game's content was respected industry commentator N'Gai Croal, who described his initial reaction to Resident Evil 5 as, Wow, clearly no one black worked on this game. (You can read Croal's full analysis in this MTV interview. [ http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2008/04/10/newsweeks-ngai-croal-on-the-resident-evil-5-trailer-this-imagery-has-a-history/]) It's not an unreasonable assumption: as the WSJ observes, the video games industry is dominated by white and Asian males. In games, black protagonists are a comparatively rare sight. Resident Evil's designer, Jun Takeuchi, told MTV [ http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2008/07/21/resident-evil-5-producer-comments/] in an interview that he was suprised at the reaction many observers had to the game, and commented that racial issues in his native Japan are different from those in Western countries. (Incidentally, he also confirmed that several of Resident Evil 5's development team are black.) The game doesn't confront the race issue head-on: the protagonist, Chris Redfield, has a female sidekick who's from the region (although she's light-skinned), and the WSJ notes the game is careful to identify why his opponents are so violent. The game suggests that the barbarism depicted in the game is a result of your enemies' zombieness, not their African identity. In short, Africans don't beat you to death with their hands -- zombies do, it says. But there's still little Chris can do about it except shoot them. Is it racist? Taken purely in isolation, the sight of a white male gunning down hordes of semi-mindless African opponents has provoked many reactions. But although only a few reviews have sneaked out so far, they largely brush off the racism allegations: it's currently scoring 87% at review aggregation site metacritic.com. Even the BBFC, the group responsible for issuing age certifications in Britain, publicly declared the race controversy a non-issue. Other commentators have been less charitable. One preview on Eurogamer.net [ http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/resident-evil-5-hands-on-chapter1to3?page=3 ] slammed the game as playing so blatantly into the old cliches of the dangerous dark continent and the primitive lust of its inhabitants that you'd swear the game was written in the 1920s. But most video game critics seem to have ignored the race controversy. For my money, fun is fun, and RE5 has near infinite ammo in that department, said IGN in this review [http://videogames.yahoo.com/xbox360/resident-evil-5/review-1294914], which goes on to award it a top score. In fact, it's turning in top scores almost across the board. -- cwm blog http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://www.stringtheory.mypodcast.com ** Worried about job security? Check out the 5 safest jobs in a recession. (http://jobs.aol.com/gallery/growing-job-industries?ncid=emlcntuscare0002)
Re: [scifinoir2] NEW Trek Show? FW: You trekkies probably already have heard of this rumor but ust in case...
Let me be the first to say that Star Trek will be dead in my eyes if this is true. The point is to go forward, not back. Especially if your base material allows you a damn good base to do so. Crap. -GTW ** Worried about job security? Check out the 5 safest jobs in a recession. (http://jobs.aol.com/gallery/growing-job-industries?ncid=emlcntuscare0002)
Re: [scifinoir2] Glen Larson's 'Battlestar' Film Has A Spark
Looks like I'm the only one who is feeling and is looking forward to this (but then again I think I'm the only one here that hates the sci-fi remake). -GTW ** You're invited to Hollywood's biggest party: Get Oscars updates, red carpet pics and more at Moviefone. (http://movies.aol.com/oscars-academy-awards?ncid=emlcntusmovi0001)
Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Star Trek's J.J. Abrams: 'This film's not for Trekkies'
Oh great. Now Star Trek has officially gone Gundam on us. That is it now has numerous alternate versions of itself to suit different audiances. Count me NOT impressed. -GTW In a message dated 2/27/09 8:11:53 AM, truthseeker...@lycos.com writes: Hey, Trekkies! Isn't it great to know that you're loved? :P -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Star Trek's J.J. Abrams: 'This film's not for Trekkies' Date : Thu, 26 Feb 2009 23:22:22 -0800 From : Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, 'Paul de Morsella' p...@14408.com, ggs...@yahoo.com, CINQUE cinque3...@verizon.net \Star Trek\\/i\\'s J.J. Abrams: \'This film\'s not for Trekkies\' Star Trek's Zoe Saldana (from left), J.J. Abrams and Chris Pine in Korea on Tuesday. J.J. Abrams and cast members from his upcoming Star Trek spoke in Seoul, South Korea, this week to pitch the movie, and Abrams again confirmed that the movie is aimed not so much at longtime fans as at newbies, according to a report on TrekMovie.com orea/ . Abrams was joined by Chris Pine, who plays Capt. James T. Kirk, and Zoe Saldana, who plays Uhura. We made this film not for Trekkies but for future fans of Star Trek, Abrams told a news conference. The studio wanted to give the film a fresh start, and I was originally brought in as a producer, but upon reading the script, I saw so much potential and possibility that the original had failed to realize due to technological constraints, so I got very greedy and I decided to direct it myself. Like Abrams, Pine admitted that he was a relative newbie to the franchise. I began watching the original series pretty feverishly, because I knew I only had a limited amount of time to prepare for the role, and after getting halfway through the first and second season, I wasn't doing myself any favors by trying to pick up on the mannerisms of William Shatner and the minutiae of the Star Trek world, Pine said. I would have created a character that was more impersonation than an original incarnation. J.J.'s prescription for realizing the role-and this goes for all of us-was to create our own and not worry too much about obeying the laws of the original Star Trek world. For her part, Saldana said that she saw herself in the character of Uhura. I do have a gravitational pull towards characters that are strong, she said. I think there are similarities between Uhura and myself. It is conceivable to believe that some of you leaks into the roles actors play, and I certainly hope that the things that did manage to leak in, ... complemented my interpretation of my character in the film, the way she's able to command herself with so much discipline and strength in a setting that's mainly masculine and still hold court and fulfill her job in an androgynous manner. I love women that are like that. You can read more here orea/ . Star Trek opens May 8 http://trekmovie.com/2009/02/25/abrams-pitches-star-trek-the-beginning-in-ko rea/ ** You're invited to Hollywood's biggest party: Get Oscars updates, red carpet pics and more at Moviefone. (http://movies.aol.com/oscars-academy-awards?ncid=emlcntusmovi0001)
Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Star Trek's J.J. Abrams: 'This film's not for Trekkies'
Rihht. Don't make me come over and hit you. :) -GTW In a message dated 2/27/09 12:07:25 PM, truthseeker...@lycos.com writes: SH, G! They might get ideas, and toss transforming shuttlecraft into the next movie - CRAP!! -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Star Trek's J.J. Abrams: 'This film's not for Trekkies' Date : Fri, 27 Feb 2009 09:51:42 EST From : gwashin...@aol.com To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Oh great. Now Star Trek has officially gone Gundam on us. That is it now has numerous alternate versions of itself to suit different audiances. Count me NOT impressed. -GTW In a message dated 2/27/09 8:11:53 AM, truthseeker...@lycos.com writes: ** You're invited to Hollywood's biggest party: Get Oscars updates, red carpet pics and more at Moviefone. (http://movies.aol.com/oscars-academy-awards?ncid=emlcntusmovi0001)
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Pioneer's Ending Plasma TV a Sign of Things to Come?
Good point. Still that's one of the things that made me switch over from a large CRT monitor (which besides being heavy, took up a large amount of desk space) to a LCD one (which is much lighter and takes up only a fraction of). And I'm planning to do the same. Getting either a LCD or Plasma one with my TV as soon as I can find a good. resonabley priced used one (a new one is still too pricey for me). I've always found LCD's more rugged (having seen many banged up ones work). But you may be right about the perceived superiourity. And the light problems of LCD's still bother me. -GTW In a message dated 2/25/09 10:13:04 AM, keithbjohn...@comcast.net writes: I'm not that concerned about weight. The plasma can be set on a stand made for such TVs instead of wall mounting it. The picture's much warmer in a plasma. Now, the newest LCDs are sho' 'nuff looking good, but they still pale besides plasma to me. But their cost, lifespan, greater visibility in brighter rooms, and as you said, easy mountability have made them popular. I'm still convinced that the LCD surge is more based on perceived superiourity (burn-in, lifespan) than anything else, but it had the desired effect. - Original Message - From: gwashin...@aol.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 12:26:04 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Pioneer's Ending Plasma TV a Sign of Things to Come? What about the weight. That's the thing I like about LCD over CRT and (even Plasma) TV's and monitors. -GTW ** You're invited to Hollywood's biggest party: Get Oscars updates, red carpet pics and more at Moviefone. (http://movies.aol.com/oscars-academy-awards?ncid=emlcntusmovi0001)
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Pioneer's Ending Plasma TV a Sign of Things to Come?
What about the weight. That's the thing I like about LCD over CRT and (even Plasma) TV's and monitors. -GTW In a message dated 2/24/09 9:32:21 PM, keithbjohn...@comcast.net writes: It's a CRT. I found this on the Web: While most of the recent developments in TVs are focused on new flat-panel or rear-projection technologies such as plasma, LCD, and DLP, the old reliable cathode-ray tube (CRT) has recently gotten a makeover. The Samsung TX-R3079WH is a 30-inch direct-view HDTV with new thin tube technology, dubbed SlimFit, that supposedly takes the advantages of a tube TV and squeezes them into a box about 2/3 as deep as traditional sets. Wish I had picked it up back then too. But I have a decent 32 Panasonic, standard sized CRT with a flatscreen. I chose it because the picture was good, but mostly, in all honesty, because the remote was logically laid out. Panasonic was the first company I noticed that let the same simple buttons do multiple functions; e.g., letting the up and down keys control volume, channel selection, and all other choices in all sub menus. so many companies' remotes give you two or more extra sets of keys for sub-menus, in addition to those controlling volume/channel. My fav tube TV of all time was a Mitsubishi. They had the best contrast ratio and the deepest blacks available back when I bought my Mits TV in '92. But alas, Mitsubishi got out of the small TV business years ago, in favor of huge screen displays like those used in stadiums. ** You're invited to Hollywood's biggest party: Get Oscars updates, red carpet pics and more at Moviefone. (http://movies.aol.com/oscars-academy-awards?ncid=emlcntusmovi0001)
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Pioneer's Ending Plasma TV a Sign of Things to Come?
Ah. I went thru during the Beta/VHS thing. Those like me who went for Beta were left in the sidelines as the inferio VHS took the lead (and I'm expecting the same with my digital vidio recorder). -GTW In a message dated 2/24/09 6:56:59 PM, ravena...@yahoo.com writes: The suckiest technology always wins. Here's why: when I bought my Samsung HD television two years ago, it was half the price of the cheapest LCD television and two-thirds the price of the cheapest plasma television. And I adore my Samsung HD television. The picture clarity - especially when watching sports or playing video games - is still thrilling to me. Just this past winter my sister bought a Samsung HD television that was a third larger than the one I own for the same price I paid two years ago for a television two-thirds the size. It's hard for other technologies to compete against that. ~rave! ** You're invited to Hollywood's biggest party: Get Oscars updates, red carpet pics and more at Moviefone. (http://movies.aol.com/oscars-academy-awards?ncid=emlcntusmovi0001)
Re: [scifinoir2] Is DC Comics dying?
I agree with him. But for different reasons. Mostly because DC is still trying to hold on to that fanboy comic book fan/element to keep itself afloat. One that's seems to be decreasing yearly. Mostly by going backwards instead of forwards. And much of what they have character-wise doesn't click with todays audiances (after all this group is not interested in going backwards). In many ways at least Marvel is doing the same thing but at least they are trying to go past the fanboy base to (with some success) get at todays audiances. Another factor to this is their core audiances. Marvels will at least give new ideas/heros a chance. DC's doesn't. Anyway that's my .02 cents on this. -GTW In a message dated 2/6/09 9:42:34 PM, truthseeker...@lycos.com writes: Grant Morrison seems to think so. They haven't posted the article from Wizard that I read this afternoon on the web site, so it falls to me to quote it. When asked about his work on Final Crisis (the ending in particular, and what he hopes fans will take away from the conclusion of the story), he says, I hope they''ll take away a sense of how much they love the DC universe. Because there are the two camps... and Marvel is a colossus right now. To me, the DC Universe dying is almost how it felt to be at DC. There was just a sense that Marvel was just getting bigger and bigger and bigger. I don't agree with that at all. IMO, Marvel has al but sold out its readers, with cheap and gimmicky plotlines that aren't likely to last more than two years before being retconned right out ! of existence, leaving nothing short of a continuity mess. DC, on the other hand, is bringing about Final Crisis, almost to the letter as it was destined to happen thirty-odd years ago. I put my brain to the task of remembering exactly what books I'd picked up in the last six months, and they've been 95% DC, only Fantastic Four as a Marvel representative. But that's just me. Thrash on this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds ** Nothing says I love you like flowers! Find a florist near you now. (http://yellowpages.aol.com/search?query=floristamp;ncid=emlcntusyelp0001)
Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Shyamalan's Avatar Cast Gets Colorful, Finally
Personally I think it's both. But I also think the racism accusation ship has already left the dock (and will get worst the closer this film gets to completion). And Patel won't help dull this. -GTW In a message dated 2/4/09 7:52:27 AM, truthseeker...@lycos.com writes: Seeing this, I'm immediately led to wonder whether this is in response to the accusations of racism flying around in the wake of his previous casting or (my personal favorite of the two) H'Wood's attempt to cash in on Patel's rising star. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Shyamalan's Avatar Cast Gets Colorful, Finally Date : Tue, 3 Feb 2009 17:54:44 -0800 From : Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, keithbjohn...@comcast.net, ggs...@yahoo.com Shyamalan's Avatar Cast Gets Colorful, Finally By Graeme McMillan , 7:30 AM on Tue Feb 3 2009, 4,499 views http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/io9/2009/02/dev.jpgStop the (internet) press! A non-white actor has been cast in M. Night Shyamalan's adaptation of Avatar: The Last Airbender! Have the internet protests been having an effect on the embattled production after all? We first reported on the outcry over the all-white casting of the distinctly non-white animated characters in December, and since then, fans have continued to deluge the movie's producers with reasons why the casting is unfair. So, does the news that Slumdog Millionaire's Dev Patel will be taking over the role previously thought to belong to Jesse McCartney represent a victory for the fans? Well, yes and no. On the one hand, it is a refreshing sign to see Patel take over from the none-more-white McCartney, but on the other, this change doesn't have anything to do with fan reaction; as Shyamalan explained, it's all to do with scheduling: Jesse had tour dates that conflicted with a boot camp I always hold on my films, and where the actors here have to train for martial arts. So, while the victory wasn't won by the fans, at least they can take some solace in the fact that McCartney was forced off the film by the pop career that they so hated. That's something, surely...? Shyamalan cast floats on 'Air' [Variety] ** Who's never won? Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?ncid=emlcntusmusi0001)
Re: [scifinoir2] Shyamalan's Avatar Cast Gets Colorful, Finally
I see another possible Shyamalan flop on the horizion. -GTW In a message dated 2/4/09 7:50:27 AM, truthseeker...@lycos.com writes: Mind if I join you? -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Shyamalan's Avatar Cast Gets Colorful, Finally Date : Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:05:01 -0800 (PST) From : Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com still not paying my money 2 c it. i am officially protesting this one. --- On Tue, 2/3/09, Tracey de Morsella wrote: From: Tracey de Morsella Subject: [scifinoir2] Shyamalan's Avatar Cast Gets Colorful, Finally To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, keithbjohn...@comcast.net, ggs...@yahoo.com Date: Tuesday, February 3, 2009, 8:54 PM Shyamalan's Avatar Cast Gets Colorful, Finally By Graeme McMillan, 7:30 AM on Tue Feb 3 2009, 4,499 views Stop the (internet) press! A non-white actor has been cast in M. Night Shyamalan's adaptation of Avatar: The Last Airbender! Have the internet protests been having an effect on the embattled production after all? We first reported on the outcry over the all-white casting of the distinctly non-white animated characters in December, and since then, fans have continued to deluge the movie's producers with reasons why the casting is unfair. So, does the news that Slumdog Millionaire's Dev Patel will be taking over the role previously thought to belong to Jesse McCartney represent a victory for the fans? Well, yes and no. On the one hand, it is a refreshing sign to see Patel take over from the none-more-white McCartney, but on the other, this change doesn't have anything to do with fan reaction; as Shyamalan explained, it's all to do with scheduling: Jesse had tour dates that conflicted with a boot camp I always hold on my films, and where the actors here have to train for martial arts. So, while the victory wasn't won by the fans, at least they can take some solace in the fact that McCartney was forced off the film by the pop career that they so hated. That's something, surely...? Shyamalan cast floats on 'Air' [Variety] ** Who's never won? Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?ncid=emlcntusmusi0001)
Re: [scifinoir2] iTunes Price Cut and copy protection removed
To me this is good news. While I'm a mac fan (having owned several macs and a 2 ipods) who loves itunes. I don't buy anything mp's from their store prefering to use amazon because of copy protection. This is due to me nearly losing over 20 dollars worth of tunes when I upgraded macs and found that you can only do this for a limited number of times before you lose the tunes. The good thing is itunes offered it's non-copy protected tunes upgrade which I promitly used and switched to amazon (which has no copy protection) for new tunes after that. So maybe I can go back to itunes store to get new tunes after that. -GTW ** New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making headlines. (http://news.aol.com?ncid=emlcntusnews0002)
Re: [scifinoir2] Coming: Computer-Generated Actors
Personally I'm primarly for this. Mostly because it will result in the return of actual actors instead of movie stars (which we have most of now). -GTW In a message dated 1/6/09 9:47:19 AM, dar...@darylelockhart.com writes: A slippery slope, indeed. Some of the characters I write are visually based on real people, living or dead (for anyone who's read any part of the main story I'm working on, my Harkness character is the visual image of Phil Lynott, the late, great bassist/lead singer for Thin Lizzy), and I would, if my work ever came to the point of reality-via-animation that I dream of, I would pay any due royalties. But there are those unscrupulous bastiches (read H'Wood producers) who would see such a blatant image appropriation and turn a blind eye to it. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Coming: Computer-Generated Actors Date : Mon, 5 Jan 2009 23:48:51 -0500 From : Dax nx_31...@yahoo.com To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com The question I suppose comes to mind is what happens to the actors that are alive? What about actors such as Elvis that is dead? Will the estate get the rights to the image or the studio that they once worked for? A lot of legal questions but a very fascinating idea. --Lavender If you don't like vanilla, try some chocolate. From: Tracey de Morsella Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 4:05 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Coming: Computer-Generated Actors 1 January 2009 1:30 AM, PST Silicon Valley is on the verge of producing sophisticated software that will allow motion picture companies to create actors on a computer who are visually indistinguishable from real people, San Jose's Mercury News reported today (Thursday). In the words of the newspaper, which closely follows the sofware industry, when software engineers finally achieve what it calls the holy grail of animation, stars would be able to keep playing iconic roles even as they aged past the point of believability like Angelina Jolie as Lara Croft or Daniel Radcliffe as Harry Potter. Rick Bergman, general manager of AMD's graphics products group, told the Mercury News that his company is getting real close to producing computer- generated actors that will look identical to real human beings. http://www.imdb.com/news/ni0639199/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds ** Stay up-to-date on the latest news - from fashion trends to celebrity break-ups and everything in between. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom0024)
[scifinoir2] Re: New Doctor has been announced.
Fate, I feel the same. And it's the reason why I now have a love/hate relationship with the whole sci-fi/fantasy/comic book gendre. Everytime I get into something that makes me feel good about sci-fi (namely the Coyote, Honor Harrition series) something comes along (like the Dr Who thing) to spoil it. But no one said being a black sci-fi fan was easy. :) -GTW In a message dated 1/4/09 1:50:02 PM, jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com writes: GTW, if that is indeed the case, then i will have 2 find other shows then 2 watch. sorry, but being Black, i kind of look 4 shows that at least have someone who resembles me some kind of way. Fate. --- On Sun, 1/4/09, gwashin...@aol.com gwashin...@aol.com wrote: From: gwashin...@aol.com gwashin...@aol.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: New Doctor has been announced. To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, January 4, 2009, 12:28 AM Actually. From what I've heard they all but edited her out of the new season of Torchwood. And you won't see her again soon in any new episodes of Dr Who (past those now shown on BBC america) either. Sorry -GTW In a message dated 1/3/09 9:57:00 PM, jazzynupe_007@ yahoo.com writes: AB, come on now, lay off my guy Capt. Jack! waiting on the new season with Martha Jones. Fate. ** Stay up-to-date on the latest news - from fashion trends to celebrity break-ups and everything in between. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom0024)
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: New Doctor has been announced.
Did you folks really think they were going to do something that drastic. We're talking sci-fi here folks. -GTW ** Stay up-to-date on the latest news - from fashion trends to celebrity break-ups and everything in between. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom0024)
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: New Doctor has been announced.
Actually. From what I've heard they all but edited her out of the new season of Torchwood. And you won't see her again soon in any new episodes of Dr Who (past those now shown on BBC america) either. Sorry -GTW In a message dated 1/3/09 9:57:00 PM, jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com writes: AB, come on now, lay off my guy Capt. Jack! waiting on the new season with Martha Jones. Fate. ** Stay up-to-date on the latest news - from fashion trends to celebrity break-ups and everything in between. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom0024)
Re: [scifinoir2] FW: New ion engine m ay be tested on space station - VASIMIR Engine
Now this would be the perfect propulsion system for a mars trip. Not counting the shorten trip time. Especially if it can generate artificial gravity by providing a constant 1g thrust on the way their and back. Which would greatly inprove the astronauts health and allow them to actually walk and work on mars. -GTW In a message dated 12/18/08 1:27:01 AM, tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com writes: From: Chris de Morsella [mailto:cdemorse...@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 10:10 PM To: 'Tracey de Morsella'; juliai...@yahoo.it; 'Paul de Morsella' Subject: RE: New ion engine may be tested on space station - VASIMIR Engine December 16, 2008 11:35 PM New ion engine may be tested on space station An experimental propulsion technology that could help get astronauts to Mars could be tested on the International Space Station, following an agreement signed by NASA and the Ad Astra Rocket Company last week. Called VASIMR (Variable Specific Impulse Magnetoplasma Rocket), the engine uses radio waves and magnetic fields to turn gas into a soup of charged particles called a plasma. The plasma then squirts out the back of the engine, producing thrust in the opposite direction. Ad Astra is headed by physicist and former space shuttle astronaut Franklin Chang Diaz, and headquartered in Webster, Texas. The agreement paves the way for VASIMR to be fired in space, attached to the International Space Station, if further ground-based tests are successful. But to get there, it would need to hitch a ride on one of the rockets still in development by companies that are hoping to provide transportation services to and from the space station. If flight testing on the space station goes according to plan, Ad Astra hopes to win a NASA contract to use VASIMR to provide the periodic boosts needed to keep the ISS in its orbit, Aviation Week reports. The same basic concept at work in VASIMR - producing thrust by accelerating charged particles, rather than by burning chemical fuels, as in traditional rockets - is used in the ion engines that have been flown on several spacecraft, including NASA's Dawn mission now heading to asteroids Vesta and Ceres. But VASIMR can be run at much higher power, making it better suited to push heavier payloads. That might make it a good source of power for a future human mission to Mars, since propelling heavy spacecraft and habitats to Mars using chemical rockets would require a huge amount of fuel. With that kind of muscle, I guess they'd better not accidentally leave VASIMR turned on too long on the space station - otherwise the station might end up headed for the Moon! David Shiga (Image: Ad Astra Rocket Company) ** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1215195222x1200993641/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=82%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO82)
Re: [scifinoir2] Eddie Murphy to play The Riddler
While I don't have problems with Murphy as the Riddler (he's a talented comedian after all). I DO have some serious problems with labeouf as robin. -GTW In a message dated 12/17/08 9:20:31 PM, keithbjohn...@comcast.net writes: No. F**king. Way! I don't know what's worse: Murphy as the Riddler, or increasingly ubiquitous and irritating Labeouf as Robin??? I like Murphy okay, but just not seeing him as the Riddler. The only hope I can have is that Nolan would somehow make it serious and substantial. But Labeouf? And Robin???Tell me this is one of those early rumours that's nothing but vapour. Please. -- Original message -- From: Justin Mohareb justinmoha...@gmail.com http://www.thesun.http://wwwhttp://wwhttp://www.thesuhttp://www.theshtt FUNNYMAN EDDIE MURPHY will play The Riddler in the next Batman movie, The Sun can reveal. The Beverly Hills Cop star, 47, has been signed up by British director CHRISTOPHER NOLAN to reprise the role played by JIM CARREY in 1995's Batman Forever. The surprise move follows speculation linking Pirates of the Caribbean star JOHNNY DEPP to the part. The film, set for a 2010 release, is being developed under the working title Gotham. Execs have also signed up rising Transformers star SHIA LABEOUF, 22, to play Robin. CHRISTIAN BALE will return as Bruce Wayne, while MICHAEL CAINE will again play Bruce's assistant Alfred. I hope to Christ someone at the Sun had one too many pints. This is be yond bad comedy. Justin -- Read the Bitter Guide to the Bitter Guy. http://thebitterguyhttp://thebithtt ** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1215195222x1200993641/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=82%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO82)
Re: [scifinoir2] Happy Place
Have both but still prefer to play Diablo II :) -GTW In a message dated 12/5/08 7:15:13 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: *raises hand* World of Warcraft here. :D :D Oh yeah, and now that I have a new, sweet machine, gotta reinstall Second Life. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/bamc.html Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/botdm.html On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 7:08 PM, Aubrey Leatherwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know if there are gamers on this loop... But it's Friday night, I just had a fine dinner, I've got a nice drink, a fire, and the doors open to a nice windy night. The lights are off in the living room, the TV's on, and I have scooted my recliner and ottoman right up to it, and despite the fact that I'm supposed to wait, I am about to crack the seal on the new Prince of Persia while I'm alone. This is a happy moment. ** Stay in touch with ALL of your friends: update your AIM, Bebo, Facebook, and MySpace pages with just one click. The NEW AOL.com. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpamp;icid=aolcom40vanityamp;ncid=emlcntaolcom0012)
Re: [scifinoir2] New Show CHA$E Premiers on SciFi Channel
Well the History Channel is a prime example of a network that recovered itself after (IMO) nearly going off the deep end. As it started of good, then turned into the Hitler channel, then the Christian channel, then the WWII/America is great/Bush channel before it finially started puting out some damn good science programing that rivals both Discovery and Science. Evolve and Jurasic Fght Club along with Universe was my favs (so was Mega Disasters before it went of the deep end in its second season). Still, as you say I'm all but ready to ditch the channel now and hope someone starts up a new, real sci-fi channel (and keeps it that way). -GTW In a message dated 11/13/08 10:14:00 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I hear you. Remember how people were criticizing MTV over the years for not being a music video channel anymore? But Real World aside, a least it was doing a lot of music-industry related stuff, like reality shows with musicians. If SciFi is to move away from pure scifi programming, there are other options, like doing bios on science fiction writers, have science-oriented shows like History Channel's great Universe, or their shows of future tech weapons and such. And there are so many old classic scifi shows, movies and cartoons out there I bet they could buy. Surely AMC, TMC, Boomerang, and Cartoon Network don't own *all* the old scifi stuff? I guess you're right about a name change. Beyond indeed: beyond my limits of patience. -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think that's why they want to change the network's name. Now I'm starting to wish the netword did go belly-up when it came close to doing so along time ago. At least it would have died with dignity. -GTW In a message dated 11/13/08 1:23:28 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a message dated Hell, this isn't any more real scifi than ECW, Scare Tactics, or Man vs. Mansion. What the hell is wrong with Scifi Channel? I mean, if you're gonna do this, and call it scifi, at least serve up something a la Death Race 2000 or The Running Man ** Get movies delivered to your mailbox. One month free from blockbuster.com (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1212639737x1200784900/aol?redir=https://www.blockbuster.com/signup/y/reg/p.26978/r.email_footer)
Re: [scifinoir2] New Show CHA$E Premiers on SciFi Channel
Maybe I'm wrong but their was a series of shows centering around WWII, terrorism, and pro-american military actions that seem to push the Bush agenda at the hight of the Bush term. But you seem to see less of that now. -GTW In a message dated 11/13/08 7:19:31 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Hitler Channel? The WWII/America is great/Bush channel? That's funny! I do remember a time when they seemed to be running programs about Nazis all the time. Ditto for WWII. But what's with the Bush thing? I like History Channel, but even with them i wish there were a lot more history shown. I can think of whole segments of times past that get short shrift, and cultures practically ignored. But I guess the balance they had to strike was between pure history, CGI-based stuff, and reality shows. -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well the History Channel is a prime example of a network that recovered itself after (IMO) nearly going off the deep end. As it started of good, then turned into the Hitler channel, then the Christian channel, then the WWII/America is great/Bush channel before it finially started puting out some damn good science programing that rivals both Discovery and Science. Evolve and Jurasic Fght Club along with Universe was my favs (so was Mega Disasters before it went of the deep end in its second season). Still, as you say I'm all but ready to ditch the channel now and hope someone starts up a new, real sci-fi channel (and keeps it that way). -GTW ** Get movies delivered to your mailbox. One month free from blockbuster.com (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1212639737x1200784900/aol?redir=https://www.blockbuster.com/signup/y/reg/p.26978/r.email_footer)
Re: [scifinoir2] New Show CHA$E Premiers on SciFi Channel
I think that's why they want to change the network's name. Now I'm starting to wish the netword did go belly-up when it came close to doing so along time ago. At least it would have died with dignity. -GTW In a message dated 11/13/08 1:23:28 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hell, this isn't any more real scifi than ECW, Scare Tactics, or Man vs. Mansion. What the hell is wrong with Scifi Channel? I mean, if you're gonna do this, and call it scifi, at least serve up something a la Death Race 2000 or The Running Man ** Get movies delivered to your mailbox. One month free from blockbuster.com (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1212639737x1200784900/aol?redir=https://www.blockbuster.com/signup/y/reg/p.26978/r.email_footer)
Re: [scifinoir2] Beyonce in talks to Play Wonder Woman
Umm...no. Can we please get a actually dark skinned greek (NOT white) woman to play WW. Common hollyweird, it's not that hard. -GTW ** AOL Search: Your one stop for directions, recipes and all other Holiday needs. Search Now. (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1212792382x1200798498/aol?redir=http://searchblog.aol.com/2008/11/04/happy-holidays- from-aol-search/?ncid=emlcntussear0001)
Re: [scifinoir2] Dumping Comcast -Thought s on Directv? or Tivo Thanks
If it wasn't for TimeWarner I'll be concidering to do the same thing. To me Comcast is 'crap'.As for bundling. I've done it and so far it's worked for me ok. Both in cost and simplicty (having one bill to pay is nice). However there is a down side. If your cable goes down EVERYTHING goes down-including phone and internet. Which (while rarely happens w/TW) is kinda annoying when it does. Still, despite this the pluses outweight the minus'. Anyway that's my .02 on this :) -GTW In a message dated 11/6/08 2:05:35 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hey Guys: I’ve had enough of Comcast and I am considering Directv and Tivo . Can anyone share their experiences? Also is it better to bundle TV, Internet and phone or separate. It. Since my special offer ran out I have been getting hosed financially by them. Tracey Thanks ** AOL Search: Your one stop for directions, recipes and all other Holiday needs. Search Now. (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1212792382x1200798498/aol?redir=http://searchblog.aol.com/2008/11/04/happy-holidays-from -aol-search/?ncid=emlcntussear0001)
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Ironman: Why They Say Terrance Howard was Fired
I don't know. But I think he can do it. Especially after seeing him in that movie were he plays a CIA counter-agent. Still after reading the article does this mean that Rhodes will have a bigger role in the film now that they fell they have an actor that can handle it. Or will we barely see him in IM2 no matter who plays him because of this. -GTW In a message dated 11/4/08 3:11:00 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I like Cheadle but I can't see him in the role of James Rhodes... Said --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Tracey de Morsella [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 'Iron Man 2': How Terrence Howard Lost His Metal Marvel's decision to recast the role of Col. Jim Rhodes said to be a combination of salary issues and concern about the performance By http://search.ew.com/EWSearch/ew/search/search.html?type=ew:Nicole+Sperling ; Nicole Sperling Nicole Sperling Nicole Sperling When a summer blockbuster grosses more than $300 million, putting together a sequel is typically as simple as throwing buckets of money at your stars and signing a few pieces of paper. That hasn't been the case with http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20197922,00.html Iron Man 2. It took months for Marvel http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,276445,00.html Studios to lock in director Jon Favreau http://www.ew.com/ew/allabout/0,,20001160,00.html for the sequel. And reports that Don http://www.ew.comhttp:/popwatch.ew.com/popwatch/2008/10/iron-man-cheadl.htm l Cheadle will replace Terrence Howard as Col. Jim Rhodes - a supporting character who seemed poised for a big role in the follow-up after he muttered ''Next time, baby'' to Iron Man's steel suit - hint that IM2 isn't quite as infallible as the superhero at its center. Hollywood insiders believe the exit stems from Terrence Howard http://www.ew.com/ew/allabout/0,,2750,00.html 's difficult behavior on the set of Iron Man. But those with intimate knowledge of the situation suggest a far more dramatic backstory: Howard was the first actor signed to the film and, on top of that, was the highest-paid. That's right: more than Gwyneth Paltrow http://www.ew.com/ew/allabout/0,,2024,00.html . More than Jeff http://www.ew.com/ew/allabout/0,,20001002,00.html Bridges. More than Robert Downey Jr. http://www.ew.com/ew/allabout/0,,2121,00.html And once the project fully came together, it was too late to renegotiate his deal. It didn't help that, according to one source, Favreau and his producers were ultimately unhappy with Howard's performance, and spent a lot of time cutting and reshooting his scenes. (Favreau could not be reached for comment, while Howard's publicist says: ''Terrence had a tremendous experience working on Iron Man.'') As such, when Favreau and screenwriter Justin Theroux http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,645687,00.html went to map out the sequel they found themselves minimizing Howard's story line. Once Marvel learned that Favreau was thinking of curtailing the role, the studio went to the actor's agents with a new and drastically reduced offer - a number that's similar to what supporting cast members were paid for the first movie. The agents, according to sources, were so taken aback by this new figure - estimated at somewhere between a 50 and 80 percent pay cut - that they questioned it. Why did they blanch? Multiple sources say that Marvel execs never told Howard's reps that they had issues with the star's on-set conduct. (Marvel would not comment for this story.) It's unclear whether Howard's team walked away first, or if Marvel ended the discussion at that point. Either way, the studio moved quickly to secure Cheadle and the story leaked out the next morning, Oct. 14. And alas for Howard, there will be no next time. More from the EW archive: http://popwatch.ew.com/popwatch/2008/10/iron-man-cheadl.html Iron Man 2: Don Cheadle's in Terrence http://popwatch.ew.com/popwatch/2008/10/iron-man-2-terr.html Howard Breaks Silence on Iron Man ** Plan your next getaway with AOL Travel. Check out Today's Hot 5 Travel Deals! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1212416248x1200771803/aol?redir=http://travel.aol.com/discount-travel?ncid=emlcntustrav0001)
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Ironman: Why They Say Terrance Howard was Fired
The point is we don't. Still what's done is done. And now I'm hoping this means that we will be seeing a bigger role for Rhodey in IM3. Especially since he's playing a bigger role in the current comic (and has played a big role in the comic's past). -GTw In a message dated 11/4/08 10:35:27 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But *how* do they know that Howard couldn't handle the role? They never gave him a chance. I love Cheadle's work, top to bottom, but he's a dramatic actor. I can't see him fitting into what is primarily an action movie. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Ironman: Why They Say Terrance Howard was Fired Date : Tue, 4 Nov 2008 03:47:45 EST From : [EMAIL PROTECTED] To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com I don't know. But I think he can do it. Especially after seeing him in that movie were he plays a CIA counter-agent. Still after reading the article does this mean that Rhodes will have a bigger role in the film now that they fell they have an actor that can handle it. Or will we barely see him in IM2 no matter who plays him because of this. -GTW ** Plan your next getaway with AOL Travel. Check out Today's Hot 5 Travel Deals! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1212416248x1200771803/aol?redir=http://travel.aol.com/discount-travel?ncid=emlcntustrav0001)
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Ironman: Why They Say Terrance Howard was Fired
IMO Cheadle was the one that almost saved Mission to Mars as he and the Sinses were the only characters I cared about in the film. -GTW In a message dated 11/4/08 6:17:48 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Means that I have to break my promise to myself and catch Traitor when it's out on DVD. Since I did like the previews, I'll bite the bullet. I already see your meaning re: :Mission To Mars. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Ironman: Why They Say Terrance Howard was Fired Date : Tue, 4 Nov 2008 10:56:16 -0500 From : Daryle Lockhart [EMAIL PROTECTED] To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sadly, the role that proves Cheadle is better for this than Howard -- is the role nobody likes him in. In Mission To Mars you have Cheadle doing technobabble in a space suit in scenes with Gary Sinise and Tim Robbins. If you watch that, then watch Traitor, you'll see that Cheadle's the guy. ** Plan your next getaway with AOL Travel. Check out Today's Hot 5 Travel Deals! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1212416248x1200771803/aol?redir=http://travel.aol.com/discount-travel?ncid=emlcntustrav0001)
Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Tennant to quit Dr Who
Sorry. I'm taking a wait and see on this one. Mostly because the Doc is a major sci-fi figures. However, if anyone would do something like this it would be the BBC (as they have a good track record on putting blacks in lead/major roles). And Adrian would be the best choice for it. However I can see lots of (mostly white) yank Who fans heads poping even at the thought of a black doctor who. -GTW In a message dated 10/30/08 6:48:36 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The actor they were discussing is Adrian Lester. Adrian Lester as the Doctor would be incredible. And, quite possible. ** Plan your next getaway with AOL Travel. Check out Today's Hot 5 Travel Deals! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1212416248x1200771803/aol?redir=http://travel.aol.com/discount-travel?ncid=emlcntustrav0001)
Re: [scifinoir2] [Video] Star Trek's William Shatner brands former co-star George Takei 'sick and
I have to agree. But then again Hollyweird is full of great actors/acresses who are, well flaming asholes.And I concider Shatner in that catigory. -GTW In a message dated 10/23/08 6:48:28 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So, nobody remembers Free Enterprise? Kirk is one thing, Shatner's another. You can't hold Shatner responsible for the characters he plays. He has played some great characters but that does not make him a nice person. ** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1211625659x1200715650/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072amp;hmpgID=82amp; bcd=emailfooter)
Re: [scifinoir2] [Video] Star Trek's William Shatner brands former co-star George Takei 'sick and
(sigh) Talks about bitter.It's starting to look like all those rumors about Shatner are true. And My 'respect' for this guy drops further every year. And is one of the few reasons why I hope the upcomming movie has some success. To help knock him of the Kirk perch if nothing else. -GTW In a message dated 10/22/08 3:31:26 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1079595/Video-Star-Treks-William-Shatner-brands-star-George-Takei-sick-psychotic.html VIDEO: Star Trek's William Shatner brands former co-star George Takei 'sick and psychotic' By Daily Mail Reporter 'Star Trek' icon William Shatner has branded former co-star George Takei 'sick' and 'psychotic' and claims he feels 'nothing but pity for him' in an astonishing attack. In an internet video clip, the ex-Captain Kirk actor says nobody cared when gay Takei finally came out in 2005. And he belittles Takei's role as Mr Sulu in the cult sci-fi series, claiming he barely knew him because he was only ever on set for a couple of days. Shatner hit back after Takei deliberately made a point of not inviting him to his gay wedding last month. Takei has admitted holding a long-standing grudge against Shatner for , in his opinion, having a huge ego and hogging the limelight on Star Trek. Shatner says in the video: 'The whole thing makes me feel badly, poor man. There is such a sickness there. 'It's so patently obvious that there is a psychosis there. I don't know what his original thing about me was. I have no idea. 'I didn't read his book that was printed many years ago, but apparently I didn't let somebody have a close-up. I literally don't know him. 'I didn't know him very well on the series. He would come in for a day or two, as evidenced by the part he played. Then on the movies, there occasionally. I didn't know the man. 'But he has continued to speak badly about me for all these years. Obviously, hiding his homosexuality - talk about festering and not living the truth of your life and feeling badly about yourself - and being fearful somebody would find out about this terrible, terrible secret, so he thought. 'Finally at the age of, I think, 70, he decides to come out of the closet and say, I'm gay. 'Like, who cares? Be gay. Don't be gay. That's up to you George.' Shatner says he is baffled at why Takei has continued to hold a grudge against him. He says: 'You would think there would be an epiphany at some point, where George might have said, Poor Bill Shatner. He's such a lonely, desperate, unhappy man that he did all these terrible things to me. 'Which I can't remember. I presume he can remember all these terrible thing I must have done when I said, Hello or something to him. 'You would think he had this epiphany and say - because he and I don't have many years left in this world - I wish him well. I'm so happy that I wish him well. 'But instead what he does is he makes this big deal about not inviting me to his wedding. 'If I was such a terrible force in his life - even some 40-odd years later, because I've not seen him - that I effect his marriage where he has to isolate it, what kind of sickness is going on in the man?' Shatner, whose video appears on his YouTube page theshatnerproject.com, adds: 'There must be something else inside of George that is festering and makes him so unhappy that he takes it out on me - in effect a total stranger. 'Why would he go out of his way to denegrate me? It's sad that the man can't find enough peace in his life to either say Be positive and say I forgive him, whatever those hurts were, or to shut up about it. 'It's sad. I feel nothing but pity for him.' Yahoo! Groups Links ** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1211625659x1200715650/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072amp;hmpgID=82amp; bcd=emailfooter)
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Wow--Hillary Moves for Barak by Acclamation
In a message dated 8/28/08 12:33:41 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The overblown notion of frustrated Hillary voters flocking to John McCain is an interesting dynamic for me. It is like the supporters of the loser of the primary to select the nominee of the sheep deciding to support the candidate of the WOLVES. I swear, the longer I live, the stranger it gets. ~(no)rave! http://blackplush.blogspot.com/ True. But some of those folks are flocking back to Obama.Probally because more info is staring to show that the PUMA movement may actually be a repug creation using their dislike of Clintion's treatment to split the democratic party. They are trying to do the same with progressive dems who dislike Obama's turn to the center. Remember Divide and Conqure is something the repugs know well. -GTW ** It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv000547)
Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Wow--Hillary Moves for Barak by Acclamation
That's my thoughts exactly. What I saw Clintion was in a no-win situation. It has now dawn on her that thanks to her primary actions she either has to help Obama win the election-even if it means she'll never have a decent shot of running for president. Or killing her political career, and her chance of holding her senate seat by either doing nothing, or harming Obama's chance of winning it. So she had to hit one out of the park. But now she has to make sure that Obama wins the nod or many will blame his loss on her and endure the backlash. Which will probally end her senate career. -GTW In a message dated 8/27/08 7:41:47 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 8/27/2008 6:29:21 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I admit that I, too, am flabbergasted by this, Keith. Maybe she's picked up something along the road in the past few weeks. It is all for show. She want those keep h Senate seat and move on up. It is all politics. The Party does not want to lose all of those angry black voters. ** It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv000547)
Re: [scifinoir2] Hidden Racism? Or CSI W.T.F.?
I don't think it's hidden racism either. At least in this case. No It looks like they are setting up the situation which will allow them to make him a major if not primary characater in this season. And there have been many shows in which it's main character was not the one that headed the group/team/etc. Inshort I still think he's going to be the show's primary character. Just not in the role Petersen was. Which hopefully will lead to better stories and allow the show to stay 'fresh'. -GTW In a message dated 8/20/08 12:28:35 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hidden Racism? Um no. That character probaly has the most room for exploration...and you dont have to sound like an idiot spouting out obvious plot points so that the audience doesnt get lost... Its a great move for the manand for the show c w m On 8/20/08, ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As many of you know, Lawrence Fishburne is joining CSI when William Petersen leaves this season. What you may not know is that Fishburne is not replacing Petersen's character on the CSI totem pole. In other words, Fishburne will pay the cost but will not be the boss. Fishburne, whose character is a college professor and former pathologist, will join the CSI team in an ENTRY-level position. WTF? ~rave! ** It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv000547)
Re: [scifinoir2] OT: WTF?? Toby Keith Endorsing Barak Obama for President
Folks If you take a real good look at Toby's comments nothing really has changed. He's just trying to dump enough 'snow' on them to make people think he has. In short this is nothing more than Toby (like many artists before him) modifying/changing his image to try to stay relevent (i.e. profitable) in the current music scene. Especially one which many in country have think it's leaned too far in the bush neocon camp and is hurting (especially ecconomically) as a result. Personally I don't think it's going to work in his case. But expect to see more of this from country in the future. Starting with the appearance of more new and/or current left-ward leaning country artists in (along with a possible major effort by country to 'reclame' the Dixie Chicks as 'theirs' again). Just like they did in the 70's. But thats just me. -GTW ** It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv000547)
Re: [scifinoir2] Fishburne joining 'CSI'
Actually I haven't. I've checked out the CSI shows. But with the possible exception of CSI: New York with Gary Sinese (a very underated actor in my opinion. He and Don Cheede almost saved that Mars movie they were in) the shows just haven't interrested me enough to be hooked. Hopefully Fishburn might the in the one that does. -GTW In a message dated 8/19/08 7:59:46 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The two of you have missed so much, then. If you can find the time, Spike TV can catch you up, pretty much seven days a week. M-F is usually from 5:00 to 9:00, and weekends vary. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik ** It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv000547)
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Crap. Now that's bad. Sorta like the various GL boards when John Stewart is brought into the picture. It seems alot of whites get very 'anty' when someone brings blacks up to their standards. And not as those who supposed to stay behind whites and 'know their place. GTW In a message dated 8/3/08 8:26:11 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: GW, You think that's bad, go read the posts sometimve over at the Internet Movie Database regarding the movie: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1046997/ The racism n hatred is *thick*--and the film hasn't even been released. Sin ** Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut000517 )
Re: [scifinoir2] Miracle at St Anna- Trailer
This looks good and acurate to the time. it could be that 'blacks in WWII' film that alot of us have been waiting for. A word of warning though. One of the posts in the comments section is stone cold racist BS. So watch the trailer with that in mind. -GTW In a message dated 8/1/08 11:26:55 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So I suppose everyone has seen the trailer for this film. I finally got to view it on the big screen during the X-Files flick. But here it is again anyway, for those who may not have. Excited about this film... Hope its good, because I'm a WW II buff, and this is the kind of cinematic diversity I'd like to see more of. Sin / Black Galactus HD Trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNImXbbZb2Ufeature=related Movie site: http://miracleatstanna.movies.go.com/ Miracle at St. Anna is an upcoming 2008 war film directed by Spike Lee and written by James McBride. The film is set to be released September 26, 2008 set in World War II. The film is set during World War II, in fall of 1944 in Tuscany and in contemporary New York City and Rome. Miracle at St. Anna follows four African-American Buffalo Soldiers of the all-black 92nd Infantry Division who get trapped near a small Tuscan village on the Gothic Line during the Italian Campaign of World War II after one of them risks his life to save an Italian boy. The story is inspired by the Sant'Anna di Stazzema massacre perpetrated by the Waffen-SS in retaliation to Italian partisan activity. There is also a reference to a sculpted head from Ponte Santa Trinita in Florence that acts as a plot device. ** Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut000517 )
Re: [scifinoir2] Voight Warns Voters Against Obama as a Socialist In Newspaper Rant
Damn. I didn't know that Voight was such a RW crank. But then again judging by his daughter's rather progressive actions I shouldn't be surprised. -GTW In a message dated 7/29/08 3:49:34 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Voight Warns Voters Against Obama In Newspaper Rant 29 July 2008 12:12 AM, PDT http://www.imdb.com/news/ns002/#ni0268503 Angelina Jolie http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001401/ 's actor father Jon Voight http://www.imdb.com/name/nm685/ has written a scathing review of U.S. presidential hopeful Barack Obama http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1682433/ 's campaign tactics - branding the senator a man who falls short in every way. The 69-year-old veteran penned a critique of the popular politician in a piece for the Washington Times, entitled My Concerns for America, which was printed on Monday. Voight slams the Democratic Party in the piece, accusing them of using a propaganda campaign in their bid to get Obama into the White House. And Voight warns voters that America will become a socialist nation if Obama secures power, insisting the U.S. will become weakened if he wins the November elections. In the article, Voight writes, The Democrats have targeted young people, knowing how easy it is to bring forth whatever is needed to program their minds. Obama has grown up with the teaching of very angry, militant white and black people... (who) will gain power for their need to demoralize this country and help create a socialist America... If, God forbid, we live to see Mr. Obama president, we will live through a socialist era that America has not seen before, and our country will be weakened in every way. ** Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr000520) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Batman Villains Casting Speculation
In a message dated 7/26/08 12:01:47 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's all subjective. I find Cassidy Yates to be a very pretty woman, and not an uncommon beauty at all; I don't see that for Rosario. But hey that makes the world go round! Same her. Though I find Cassidy's beauty to go beyond just mere looks (not that she wasn't beautiful to start) that allowed her to more than hold her own with the other star trek women. -GTW ** Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr000520) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Is It Too Early to Remake 'Hancock'?
Okay. While I have problems with Hancock. The version now in the movies is a lot better than the original script (which I've have and read) which I think is pure crap. A prime example of good idea, bad execution. Plus I head Hancock had a major battle with the censors who ordered a lot of cuts and mods to keep it at PG-13. And because of this I'm waiting for the DVD, mostly because I think it wlll contain a lot of deleted stuff that didn't make it on the screen which IMO will probally make it a much better film. This is how I felt about I Am Legend which while I think was a good film. The DVD version with the omited scenes and orignial ending made it (at least to me) a much more better version than the film one. I think the same will be for the DVD version of Hancock. But I could be wrong. -GTW On Jul 22, 2008, at 3:50:27 AM, Tracey de Morsella [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Tracey de Morsella [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:[scifinoir2] Is It Too Early to Remake 'Hancock'? Date: July 22, 2008 3:50:27 AM EDT To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is It Too Early to Remake 'Hancock'? The answer is no, that is if you were wondering Unlike some who feel every remake amounts to a personal affront on their gentleman's honor, I've gone on record saying remakes rarely irk me.* So I say, why not remake http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/movie/hancock Hancock? How about now? Leave the too soon charges for those joking about your recently deceased goldfish. Strike while the passion's hot. My friend, the sex therapist, said that once, and wisdom like that goes for things other than when the Viagra takes hold. I'm not saying a Gus Van Sant frame-by-frame remake. Now that'd be madness. I'm thinking something along the lines of Batman Begins or The Incredible Hulk. So a reboot, reworking, reimagining, or whatever word you want to use with re as a prefix.** Just because Hancock didn't spring from the comic pages doesn't mean it isn't a viable candidate for a redoing. The current incarnation of Hancock is a frustrating mess, a fascinating failure of schizophrenic filmmaking: one part brilliant (the concept and first act are pretty darn good); one part mediocre (the whole middle of the film); and one part pure shit (who was the genius behind the James Carville impersonating villain?). And while I'm well aware that an R-rated version exists with a statutory rape subplot and a super-powered jizz shot, I doubt any director's cut can fix that last act. Nor am I proposing that the redoing goes back to Vincent Ngo's original script, Tonight, He Comes. I read it recently. The rumors are true. Other than containing a smoking, hard-drinking superhero named Hancock, a father-mother-son family that befriends Hancock, and a bank robbery scene (occurring much earlier), Tonight, He Comes has nothing in common with the Will Smith vehicle showing at a theater near everyone. In Ngo's version Hancock mumbles rehearsed platitudes and comes off more as a force of nature that an actual character. No big plot twists are to be found. And the story is much darker (e.g., Hancock slaughters a whole precinct of cops during the climax). Some have labeled the original screenplay as brilliant, while others have tagged it as pure drivel. It's neither. Pretty good, but definitely flawed. So I say take the fantastic concept (an asshole, sort of a superhero whose heroics and powers have real-world consequences on the tax-paying public) and rewrite the rest. The idea lends itself to several interesting themes and allegories ranging from American foreign policies (several reviews for Hancock touch on this symbolism) to the suggestion of a God, who contrary to popular belief, does not like us. The possibilities are endless. You only need a writer/filmmaker with the talent and focus to lasso these notions together and funnel them into a smooth, singular vision. That also means you need a filmmaker with enough clout to keep the studio from breaking out the editing scissors. Could somebody get Peter Jackson on the phone? Now, I know comic books have explored this territory for two decades now. But I've yet to see a superhero film that grabs onto the genre's subversive tentacles and really crack things open and flip them inside out-although if http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/movie/watchmen Watchmen lives up to its source material, then it will have done just that. Hancock teased us with that possibility, but failed miserably. However, I'm willing to give the character another chance.*** It's the American way. *Okay, Death Race irks me a tad, but that's only because I despise the taint of Paul W.S. Anderson. **My vote: a redoing. ***But not as sequel. Without the booze, wouldn't a Hancock sequel just be Will Smith flying around in a reject costume from the X-Men films? The answer is yes. http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/is_it_too_early_to_remake_hancock/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Frog Princess Bites Disney
Disney should have expected this. After all many, including those in the AA community knows Disney's poor rep when it comes to movies about blacks-especially animated ones. This time it looks like disney is finally listening. Still I'm just surprised at all of the comments from the (mostly) white community complaining about the AA communities comments about the film. -GTW On Jul 21, 2008, at 3:05:24 AM, Tracey de Morsella [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.imdb.com/news/ns003/#ni0263520 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
RE: [scifinoir2] Eckhart Eyeing Green Lantern?
Oh crap! And I have spam filters on too. Sorry folks, reallly. I didn't mean to inflict this to everyone. Anyway how I can kill this? -GTW On Jul 15, 2008, at 5:33:28 AM, Reece Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Reece Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:RE: [scifinoir2] Eckhart Eyeing Green Lantern? Date: July 15, 2008 5:33:28 AM EDT To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Thanks, GW! Maurice C. Jennings Certified Credit Consultant Credit Justice Services FEATURES THE 75 Day Credit Makeover. A client can potentially see an increase of 50 - 100 points in their credit score in 75 days or less! 100% Money Back Guarantee* *Terms and conditions apply Identity Theft Solutions, too! http://www.creditjusticeservices.com/?ccc=2173 http://www.creditjusticeservices.com/?ccc=2173 [EMAIL PROTECTED] blocked::mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 860-202-1041 _ From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gwashin891 Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 12:00 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Eckhart Eyeing Green Lantern? GL = Green Lantern (singular) GLC = Green Lantern Corps (the whole organization of GL's) -GTW On Jul 14, 2008, at 10:32:34 AM, Reece Jennings mcjennings124@ mailto:mcjennings124%40yahoo.com yahoo.com wrote: From: Reece Jennings mcjennings124@ mailto:mcjennings124%40yahoo.com yahoo.com Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Eckhart Eyeing Green Lantern? Date: July 14, 2008 10:32:34 AM EDT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com Can you help me out with what GL and GLC stand for? Thanks! Maurice C. Jennings Certified Credit Consultant Credit Justice Services FEATURES THE 75 Day Credit Makeover. A client can potentially see an increase of 50 - 100 points in their credit score in 75 days or less! 100% Money Back Guarantee* *Terms and conditions apply Identity Theft Solutions, too! http://www.creditju http://www.creditjusticeservices.com/?ccc=2173 sticeservices.com/?ccc=2173 http://www.creditju http://www.creditjusticeservices.com/?ccc=2173 sticeservices.com/?ccc=2173 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:mjennings%40creditjusticeservices.com ticeservices.com blocked::mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:mjennings%40creditjusticeservices.com ticeservices.com 860-202-1041 _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com] On Behalf Of KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:26 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Eckhart Eyeing Green Lantern? Well, if they can pull off some cool trailers and generate early good buzz like Iron Man did, maybe one GL could work. Funny thing now is, if they focus on Hal Jordan, and then have Stewart show up as his buddy/kinda sidekick who will be a GL, but not in this film, it'll look like a copy of the Startk/Rhodes relationship in Iron Man. -- Original message -- From: gwashin891 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:GWashin891%40aol.com com No I don't want a GLC movie (at least not yet). I want a GL movie that concentrates mainly on the earth GL's equally. Not just one so we can get all of their fans on board, And their are many ways to push such a movie. The buddy movie approach of all of them teaming up to deal with a single foe while also dealing with separate objectives is one of them. Concentrating on just one of them is to me a bad idea. -GTW On Jul 13, 2008, at 12:18:09 PM, Lockhart, Daryle [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:daryle%40darylelockhart.com rt.com wrote: From: Lockhart, Daryle [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:daryle%40darylelockhart.com rt.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Eckhart Eyeing Green Lantern? Date: July 13, 2008 12:18:09 PM EDT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com So what YOU want is a Green Lantern CORPS movie. As a Green Lantern fan, I'm with you. That would be great. I don't know how you market that to people right now. On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 11:53:31 -0400, gwashin891 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:GWashin891%40aol.com com wrote: I'm probably bucking the trend here but I don't think Hal can carry a GL movie alone. And in this age a movie needs all the help it can get to succeed. And this means getting ALL of the fans on board. NOT just Hal's. This this is reason why I still think the first GL movie should be an ensemble piece centering on Hal, John, and Kyle. They can bring in Guy and the others in the next film (or give him a smaller part in the first one). -GTW On Jul 13, 2008, at 9:11:19 AM, Lockhart, Daryle [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:daryle%40darylelockhart.com rt.com wrote: From: Lockhart, Daryle [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:daryle%40darylelockhart.com rt.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Eckhart Eyeing Green Lantern? Date: July 13, 2008 9:11:19 AM EDT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com Clearly he could do
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GL = Green Lantern (singular) GLC = Green Lantern Corps (the whole organization of GL's) -GTW On Jul 14, 2008, at 10:32:34 AM, Reece Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Reece Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:RE: [scifinoir2] Eckhart Eyeing Green Lantern? Date: July 14, 2008 10:32:34 AM EDT To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Can you help me out with what GL and GLC stand for? Thanks! Maurice C. Jennings Certified Credit Consultant Credit Justice Services FEATURES THE 75 Day Credit Makeover. A client can potentially see an increase of 50 - 100 points in their credit score in 75 days or less! 100% Money Back Guarantee* *Terms and conditions apply Identity Theft Solutions, too! http://www.creditjusticeservices.com/?ccc=2173 http://www.creditjusticeservices.com/?ccc=2173 [EMAIL PROTECTED] blocked::mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 860-202-1041 _ From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:26 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Eckhart Eyeing Green Lantern? Well, if they can pull off some cool trailers and generate early good buzz like Iron Man did, maybe one GL could work. Funny thing now is, if they focus on Hal Jordan, and then have Stewart show up as his buddy/kinda sidekick who will be a GL, but not in this film, it'll look like a copy of the Startk/Rhodes relationship in Iron Man. -- Original message -- From: gwashin891 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:GWashin891%40aol.com com No I don't want a GLC movie (at least not yet). I want a GL movie that concentrates mainly on the earth GL's equally. Not just one so we can get all of their fans on board, And their are many ways to push such a movie. The buddy movie approach of all of them teaming up to deal with a single foe while also dealing with separate objectives is one of them. Concentrating on just one of them is to me a bad idea. -GTW On Jul 13, 2008, at 12:18:09 PM, Lockhart, Daryle [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:daryle%40darylelockhart.com rt.com wrote: From: Lockhart, Daryle [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:daryle%40darylelockhart.com rt.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Eckhart Eyeing Green Lantern? Date: July 13, 2008 12:18:09 PM EDT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com So what YOU want is a Green Lantern CORPS movie. As a Green Lantern fan, I'm with you. That would be great. I don't know how you market that to people right now. On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 11:53:31 -0400, gwashin891 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:GWashin891%40aol.com com wrote: I'm probably bucking the trend here but I don't think Hal can carry a GL movie alone. And in this age a movie needs all the help it can get to succeed. And this means getting ALL of the fans on board. NOT just Hal's. This this is reason why I still think the first GL movie should be an ensemble piece centering on Hal, John, and Kyle. They can bring in Guy and the others in the next film (or give him a smaller part in the first one). -GTW On Jul 13, 2008, at 9:11:19 AM, Lockhart, Daryle [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:daryle%40darylelockhart.com rt.com wrote: From: Lockhart, Daryle [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:daryle%40darylelockhart.com rt.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Eckhart Eyeing Green Lantern? Date: July 13, 2008 9:11:19 AM EDT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com Clearly he could do Hal Jordan. The question is -- is that what people want to see? Almost an entire generation has grown up seeing John Stewart animated. The generation before that are divided between being Kyle and Hal fans. On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 08:01:35 -0400, Martin truthseeker_ mailto:truthseeker_013%40yahoo.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He could do Hal Jordan. Heck, he could do Guy Gardner, if he wanted. Even the monster-truck rally-loving JLI incarnation. http://www.youtube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik --- On Sun, 7/13/08, Tracey de Morsella [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com aladvantage.com wrote: From: Tracey de Morsella [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com aladvantage.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Eckhart Eyeing Green Lantern? To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com Date: Sunday, July 13, 2008, 5:03 AM Eckhart Eyeing Green Lantern? Two-face wants more superhero action. by Orlando Parfitt http://movies. ign.com/email. html , IGN UK UK, July 4, 2008 - Aaron Eckhart - AKA Harvey Dent/Two-Face in The Dark Knight - has been blabbing this week about wanting to swap super-villainy for super-heroism in his next role. When asked by iFMagazine http://www.ifmagazi ne.com/new. asp?article= 6438 if he would be up for donning spandex in the future, he said: Is it for me? Are you nuts. I want my piece. He also had this to say about the rumours he might be in the running
Re: [scifinoir2] starship troopers 3
Crap. I'm now more than glad I managed to get a quality bootleg of the japanese animated OVA (come on folks, get off the pot and put out an official DVD of it already). And the CGI starship troopers series. Both which despite some flaws are a lot better than the movies. -GTW On Jul 12, 2008, at 10:24:26 PM, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: [scifinoir2] starship troopers 3 Date: July 12, 2008 10:24:26 PM EDT To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Marian, I learned of this abomination last week, through another group of mine, kindly including a YouTube trailer link. (The background noise you hear is of me, gagging.) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik --- On Sat, 7/12/08, marian_changling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: marian_changling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [scifinoir2] starship troopers 3 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, July 12, 2008, 10:17 PM Why, oh why did they make a 3rd movie? I saw the promo today and wanted to gag. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Eckhart Eyeing Green Lantern?
I'm probably bucking the trend here but I don't think Hal can carry a GL movie alone. And in this age a movie needs all the help it can get to succeed. And this means getting ALL of the fans on board. NOT just Hal's. This this is reason why I still think the first GL movie should be an ensemble piece centering on Hal, John, and Kyle. They can bring in Guy and the others in the next film (or give him a smaller part in the first one). -GTW On Jul 13, 2008, at 9:11:19 AM, Lockhart, Daryle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Lockhart, Daryle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: [scifinoir2] Eckhart Eyeing Green Lantern? Date: July 13, 2008 9:11:19 AM EDT To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Clearly he could do Hal Jordan. The question is -- is that what people want to see? Almost an entire generation has grown up seeing John Stewart animated. The generation before that are divided between being Kyle and Hal fans. On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 08:01:35 -0400, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He could do Hal Jordan. Heck, he could do Guy Gardner, if he wanted. Even the monster-truck rally-loving JLI incarnation. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik --- On Sun, 7/13/08, Tracey de Morsella [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Tracey de Morsella [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [scifinoir2] Eckhart Eyeing Green Lantern? To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, July 13, 2008, 5:03 AM Eckhart Eyeing Green Lantern? Two-face wants more superhero action. by Orlando Parfitt http://movies. ign.com/email. html , IGN UK UK, July 4, 2008 - Aaron Eckhart - AKA Harvey Dent/Two-Face in The Dark Knight - has been blabbing this week about wanting to swap super-villainy for super-heroism in his next role. When asked by iFMagazine http://www.ifmagazi ne.com/new. asp?article= 6438 if he would be up for donning spandex in the future, he said: Is it for me? Are you nuts. I want my piece. He also had this to say about the rumours he might be in the running for Captain America: I don't know, I'm getting older - I don't know if there are any old superheroes. When reminded of Robert Downey Jr. in Iron Man, he said That's true, bas**rd! Instead, its D.C.'s The Green Lantern that he's a fan of: I've forgotten his characteristics and what he does, but I remember liking the Green Lantern a lot. No matter which character he plays, he's definitely open to making another superhero adaptation after his experiences on The Dark Knight. I would, because they're fun to do, says Eckhart. I had fun doing this movie. I like action in general. I like to run around and be on cool motorcycles. I always get a tinge of jealousy when I see it and I'm not in it. I don't know what's left. It would have to be a good script and a good director. http://movies. ign.com/articles /886/886335p1. html [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking as we used when we created them. -- Albert Einstein Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Eckhart Eyeing Green Lantern?
No I don't want a GLC movie (at least not yet). I want a GL movie that concentrates mainly on the earth GL's equally. Not just one so we can get all of their fans on board, And their are many ways to push such a movie. The buddy movie approach of all of them teaming up to deal with a single foe while also dealing with separate objectives is one of them. Concentrating on just one of them is to me a bad idea. -GTW On Jul 13, 2008, at 12:18:09 PM, Lockhart, Daryle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Lockhart, Daryle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: [scifinoir2] Eckhart Eyeing Green Lantern? Date: July 13, 2008 12:18:09 PM EDT To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com So what YOU want is a Green Lantern CORPS movie. As a Green Lantern fan, I'm with you. That would be great. I don't know how you market that to people right now. On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 11:53:31 -0400, gwashin891 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm probably bucking the trend here but I don't think Hal can carry a GL movie alone. And in this age a movie needs all the help it can get to succeed. And this means getting ALL of the fans on board. NOT just Hal's. This this is reason why I still think the first GL movie should be an ensemble piece centering on Hal, John, and Kyle. They can bring in Guy and the others in the next film (or give him a smaller part in the first one). -GTW On Jul 13, 2008, at 9:11:19 AM, Lockhart, Daryle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Lockhart, Daryle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Eckhart Eyeing Green Lantern? Date: July 13, 2008 9:11:19 AM EDT To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Clearly he could do Hal Jordan. The question is -- is that what people want to see? Almost an entire generation has grown up seeing John Stewart animated. The generation before that are divided between being Kyle and Hal fans. On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 08:01:35 -0400, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He could do Hal Jordan. Heck, he could do Guy Gardner, if he wanted. Even the monster-truck rally-loving JLI incarnation. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik --- On Sun, 7/13/08, Tracey de Morsella [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Tracey de Morsella [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [scifinoir2] Eckhart Eyeing Green Lantern? To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, July 13, 2008, 5:03 AM Eckhart Eyeing Green Lantern? Two-face wants more superhero action. by Orlando Parfitt http://movies. ign.com/email. html , IGN UK UK, July 4, 2008 - Aaron Eckhart - AKA Harvey Dent/Two-Face in The Dark Knight - has been blabbing this week about wanting to swap super-villainy for super-heroism in his next role. When asked by iFMagazine http://www.ifmagazi ne.com/new. asp?article= 6438 if he would be up for donning spandex in the future, he said: Is it for me? Are you nuts. I want my piece. He also had this to say about the rumours he might be in the running for Captain America: I don't know, I'm getting older - I don't know if there are any old superheroes. When reminded of Robert Downey Jr. in Iron Man, he said That's true, bas**rd! Instead, its D.C.'s The Green Lantern that he's a fan of: I've forgotten his characteristics and what he does, but I remember liking the Green Lantern a lot. No matter which character he plays, he's definitely open to making another superhero adaptation after his experiences on The Dark Knight. I would, because they're fun to do, says Eckhart. I had fun doing this movie. I like action in general. I like to run around and be on cool motorcycles. I always get a tinge of jealousy when I see it and I'm not in it. I don't know what's left. It would have to be a good script and a good director. http://movies. ign.com/articles /886/886335p1. html [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking as we used when we created them. -- Albert Einstein Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking as we used when we created them. -- Albert Einstein Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] new Firefox
Same here. Already running the beta copies. And despite some minor hicups it work fine. -GTW In a message dated 6/16/08 8:38:25 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'll be ripping it down at the first opportunity. Martin (tipping pocket protector to honor Bosco) Bosco Bosco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The new firefox is pretty spiffy. I just downloaded it and am running the current test version. If you're a fan, you should check it out. I don't know anything about the technical end to make any kind of technical recommendation but it feels good so far. As a side note, is the use of the term spiffy confirmation of some kind of uberdork status? Bosco ** Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut000507) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Kasdan To Adapt Robotech
I'm in the catagory of 'wait and see' on this one. Starting with the casting. -GTW In a message dated 6/16/08 8:51:29 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I caught this earlier this afternoon in another of my groups. Might be interesting. Tracey de Morsella [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kasdan To Adapt Robotech Veteran screenwriter Lawrence Kasdan has been hired to write Robotech, Warner Brothers' feature-film adaptation of the anime classic, according to The Hollywood Reporter. Akiva Goldsman and Chuck Roven are boarding the project as producers, joining Tobey Maguire and Drew Crevello. Robotech was a 1980s cartoon series from Harmony Gold USA and Tatsunoko Productions. It was re-edited and re-dialogued to combine three Japanese anime series to give the producers enough episodes to air as a daily syndicated series. A sprawling SF epic, Robotech takes place at a time when Earth has developed giant robots from the technology on an alien spacecraft that crashed on a South Pacific isle. Mankind is forced to use the technology to fend off three successive waves of alien invasions. The first invasion centers on a battle with a race of giant warriors who seek to retrieve their flagship's energy source, known as protoculture, and the planet's hope for survival ends up in the hands of two young pilots. Robotech extends Kasdan's return to the fantasy genre that began last year, when he was tapped to pen the Clash of the Titans remake for Warner and Thunder Road. Kasdan wrote the screenplays for Return of the Jedi, The Empire Strikes Back and Raiders of the Lost Ark before writing The Big Chill and Grand Canyon. http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0id=56052 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ** Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut000507) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] FW: [AFAMHED] Observation: No black boys in bookstores
I'm one of those black boys that still inhabit bookstores (the three local Barnes and Nobles in particlar). Even though I had to put up with alot of strange 'stares' for a while until they got 'used' to my weekly presence. Now some of them even ask for my advice in info/locating anything anime/sci-fi/gamming. Go figure. -GTW ** Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg0005000102) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: FW: Open Letter to Certain White Women Threatening to Withho...
I hope so too. But unfortunately, from the recent talks I had with various people on this I think you're not. However I hope that it will be those two later factions you mention, along with Clinton being in full SYA (Save You Ass) mode to protect her senate seat-and her political career will lead the way of patching up the damage. Not only because it's right. But because it will be in everyone's best interrests to do so. After all nothing gets done in a hostile workplace. And no one wants to go back on race relations. -GTW -- In a message dated 6/8/08 7:44:03 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This election is causing a war between three factions of American feminism: Feminists of color, the older feminists and the newer feminist. The newer feminists and feminists of color (in general) see this old style approach as harmful to the overall cause. I think the movement will be wounded and I think some of Hillary's actions and the establishment feminist's movement support is going to bite us in the ass in the workplace. Women in power do not complain, whine, cry, expect special rules to be applied to them or ride on the success of their spouses. Now that perception has been given new life. Thanks Hillary! Hillary's embracing of female power stereotypes is harmful to the perceptions of women as having equal AND SEPARATE power. However, Hillary is such a bruiser so that perhaps that aspect of her candidacy might offset the weight of some of those things. On the other hand, Clinton's game of encouraging racism and bias to her advantage is going to hurt Blacks to some degree in the workplace. Seething anger has been encouraged. I think that it will play out in the workplace to some degree. Up until I got sick, I worked with a lot of white male recruiters. It is ugly and I think she made things uglier. Since I'm not yet back to work, I do not know for sure. My only hope is that the Clintons now fear for their political survival, so they will have to invest some time in working to correct the damage they have done. Additionally, they claim that Barrack can't not get the Hispanic vote without her. The truth is he won it from her over a month ago. So maybe there is a chance that all this infighting and clannish behavior is temporary. Bottomline, she and her campaign did a lot of damage I hope I am waay off base. ** Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch Cooking with Tyler Florence on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?amp; NCID=aolfod000302) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: FW: Open Letter to Certain White Women Threatening to Withho...
I was planning to stay out of this but am I the only one here who thinks that this action would harm the feminist cause big time. As if IMO Clinton and her supporters actions have all but shattered the feminist faction big time. Highlighting the major splits between the white and eithinic factions of the movement. And in numerously was increasing the woman hatting feelings-especially among ethinics over this campaign. -GTW In a message dated 6/8/08 7:58:34 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: White women are fortunate that you feel their pain. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tracy These are not ghetto blacks. These are blacks that are professionals that are libera/moderate/republican in their viewpoints. I don't have issues with black men. I don't think that anyone that votes for Clinton has issues with black men. It is really insulting racist, sexist talking point. I have grown up around black men. I have much more respect than people like to admit. I have told that I hang around black men too much because I don't see the black female perspective. That does not mean I have to defend black men when they do wrong or have a difference of opinion. It does not mean that I have to vote for a black man. These so called horrible people are everyday people. If you sit down and talk to them you began to realize their viewpoints. You would be surprised how people really think if you allow them talk. There are those that pride themselves on being open minded but harbor some ill willed thoughts. Ferro is not my gal. However Obama is given a free ride because of his race. I believe that one of McCain's advisors quit because he did not want to attack Obama because it would come across as racial. I don't know many white men who would be president with only half a term in the Senate. It would not fly with white America. It would not fly with a woman. It is too sensitive to talk about qualifications with a black man. I don't think that we can claim that she is a closet Republican. Obama came up with peace with Palestine. He wanted to talk to our enemies. As a typically politician he has said that the nuclear option is on the table for Iran. He is a friend of Israel. Hid grandfather and Jewish friends made him understand Jews. He will talk tough to terrorists. He is flip flopper. He has no backbone and will say anything for votes. He is not new or exciting. There will not be any changes in the US foreign policy. He also condemn Carter. The enemy of Israel and condemned Hamas. US foreign policy will not change under him. I don't understand why it is so hard to understand. No, American president can hate Israel and love the Arabs. It will NEVER happen. They will not be elected. I do see myself as saying nasty things. If it is blunt, so be it. I don't see a woman becoming president anytime soon. Color will always trump gender. I doubt the country will elect a woman unless she is not white. I am not a white woman nor do I see myself as a mammy. However I can understand how some feel. A lot of them don't see themselves as white women. They are just women. Barak is a black man. He has a color and gender advantage over them. It is like electing a black woman. You get two for the price of one. I don't see it as privilege but frustration. White men don't like them because they are women. Non whites can't stand them because they are white. I told a group of white women that Hillary was their only chance of getting elected. As white woman no group wants them. I don't see many men of color supporting a white woman for the high-test office in the land. Especially when they can elect a man and a non white man. The women got upset. I don't no why. Everyone has gotten on the white women are evil bandwagon. If Rice would have run at least she could have been protected by her skin color. She is a double minority. Hillary is gone. However black men act as if they still lost. I still see Obama supporters calling Clinton racist and sexist names. This hatred has nothing to do with what the Clinton said. It is just pure and simple hate. ** Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch Cooking with Tyler Florence on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?amp; NCID=aolfod000302) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Success seems to have sped by 'Speed Racer'
In a message dated 5/18/08 1:25:31 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I still love the classic old Speed Racer cartoon. I have about five videotapes, for ten eps total. They're still great, still funny. Of course, I've only seen the Americanized, dubbed, cleaned up version. Never seen the original anime with its greater violence and blood. There was a newer Speed Racer cartoon back in the 90s, I believe. It sucked. This new 'toon, with Speed's son at a racing academy? Might be even worse. It does. Saw 3 eps of it on Nicktoons. -GTW ** Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod000301) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Are their any left wing military sci-fi writers?
Thanks. I'll be on the look out for it. -GTW - In a message dated 5/15/08 6:55:55 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you can find them, Kevin Randle's 'Jefferson's Wars' series is a pretty good example of what you're looking for if I'm reading you correctly...It starts out with a lieutenant who cowers on the battlefield while his sergeant major goes out and blows up an enemy emplacement, get killed shortly after returning...Even when he explains to his superiors the truth, He is given the Highest award for bravery and a promotion because they would rather have a living heroe than a dead one. As a result, he spends the rest of the series trying to live up to the standards he falsely earned...Some of it is corny, but a lot of it is gripping...Most noteworthy is the fact he takes the lead when traditionally he is supposed to command from the rear...He earns the undying loyalty of his troops, yada, yada... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I probally be more clear on this one but it's basicly doing the type of stuff you see our military doing now. namely all liberal's are bad, all concervativies are good. The good guys always strike first (even if their's no reason to), stuff like that. Things like that. -GTW ** Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod000301) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Real Live Iron Man
Is it just me or does anyone else here that winged glider from Nassica Valley of the Wind looks practical enough that with some tweaks it could actually be made work in reality. :) -GTW In a message dated 5/15/08 7:15:00 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've seen this beforeAWESOME!!! I wish i could get my hads on something like that...Do I see another Bond movie going on the table??? ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080514/ap_on_re_eu/switzerland_rocket_man Swiss man soars above Alps with jet-powered wing By FRANK JORDANS, Associated Press Writer Wed May 14, 5:28 PM ET A Swiss pilot strapped on a jet-powered wing and leaped from a plane Wednesday for the first public demonstration of the homemade device, turning figure eights and soaring high above the Alps. Yves Rossy's performance in front of the world press capped five years of training and many more years of dreaming. This flight was absolutely excellent, the former fighter pilot and extreme sports enthusiast said after touching down on an airfield near the eastern shore of Lake Geneva. Rossy, 48, had stepped out of the Swiss-built Pilatus Porter aircraft at 7,500 feet and unfolded the rigid eight-foot wings strapped to his back before jumping. Passing from free fall to a gentle glide, Rossy then triggered four jet turbines and accelerated to 186 miles per hour, about 65 miles per hour faster than the typical falling skydiver. A plane that flew at some distance beside him measured his speed. The crowd on the mountaintop below gasped and cheered. Rossy's mother, who was among the spectators, told journalists she felt no fear. He knows what he's doing, Paule Rossy said of her son, who now flies commercial planes for Swiss airlines. Steering with his body, Rossy dived, turned and soared again, performing what appeared to be effortless loops from one side of the Rhone valley to the other. At times he rose 2,600 feet before descending again. After one last wave to the crowd the rocket man tipped his wings, flipped onto his back and leveled out again, executing a perfect 360- degree roll. That was to impress the girls, he later admitted. Rossy said after Wednesday's five-minute flight, he is ready now for a bigger challenge: crossing the English Channel this year. The stunt, which will be shown on live television, will test his flying machine to the limit. Rossy said he plans to practice the 22- mile trip by flying between two hot-air balloons. I still haven't used the full potential, he said. Rossy told The Associated Press that one day he also hopes to fly through the Grand Canyon. To do this, he will have to fit his wings with bigger, more powerful jets to allow for greater maneuverability. The German-built model aircraft engines he currently uses already provide 200 pounds of thrust, enough to allow Rossy and his 120-pound flying suit to climb through the air. Physically, it's absolutely no stress, Rossy said. It's like being on a motorbike. But on this ride, even the slightest movement can cause problems. Rossy said he has to focus hard on relaxing in the air, because if you put tension on your body, you start to swing around. Should things go wrong — and Rossy says they have more times than not — there's always a yellow handle to jettison the wings and unfold the parachute. I've had many 'whoops' moments, he said. My safety is altitude. Rossy wears a heat-resistant suit similar to that worn by firefighters and racing drivers, to protect him from the heat of the turbines. The cooling effect of the wind and high altitude also prevent him from getting too hot. Rossy says his form of human flight will remain the reserve of very few for now. The price and effort involved are simply too enormous, he says. So far Rossy and his sponsors, including the Swiss watch company Hublot, have poured more than $285,000 and countless hours of labor into building the device. He would not estimate how much his device would cost should it ever be brought to market. But, he believes similar jet-powered wings will one day be more widely available to experienced parachutists ready for the ultimate flying experience. That is, if they don't mind missing out on the breathtaking panorama above the Swiss Alps. I am so concentrated, I don't really enjoy the view, Rossy said. ___ On the Web: Yves Rossy: http://www.jet-man.com/prod/index_en.html Copyright © 2008 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. The information contained in the AP News report may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed without the prior written authority of The Associated Press. ** Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod000301) [Non-text portions of this message have
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Are their any left wing military sci-fi writers?
Yeah. And you can do the same for David Weber (Honor Harration's author) which makes them more than readable. -GTW In a message dated 5/15/08 3:02:02 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you read Starship Troopers, you could flip-flop yes and no throughout... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 5/13/08 11:08:13 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There are quite a few of them out there, including David Drake, Bill McKay...now I'm drawing a blank! (checking search engine)...Oh yeah David Sherman, Dan Cragg, Kevin Randle, Jerry Pournelle, and please don't let me forget Robert Heinlein...(singing) And many more... Um some of them are old classics and a few of them are righ wingers (Jerry Pournelle definatly, Heinlein maybe), but not any new ones that I see. -GTW ** Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod000301) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Are their any left wing military sci-fi writers?
I probally be more clear on this one but it's basicly doing the type of stuff you see our military doing now. namely all liberal's are bad, all concervativies are good. The good guys always strike first (even if their's no reason to), stuff like that. Things like that. -GTW In a message dated 5/15/08 11:10:52 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What defines a left-wing sci fi writer? It is okay for the aliens to invade and kill us? It is okay for the underclass to steal the magic crystal and destroy the ruling class? It terms of real life application: Americans must allow illegal and anyone they want into this country? Americans must apologize and sit down with our enemies? Americans are evil and need to apologize to every non white group and be open to homosexuality? What is defines a writer as left wing?? ** Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod000301) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Are their any left wing military sci-fi writers?
In a message dated 5/13/08 11:08:13 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There are quite a few of them out there, including David Drake, Bill McKay...now I'm drawing a blank! (checking search engine)...Oh yeah David Sherman, Dan Cragg, Kevin Randle, Jerry Pournelle, and please don't let me forget Robert Heinlein...(singing) And many more... Um some of them are old classics and a few of them are righ wingers (Jerry Pournelle definatly, Heinlein maybe), but not any new ones that I see. -GTW ** Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod000301) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[scifinoir2] Are their any left wing military sci-fi writers?
Just a question mostly because most sci-fi military authors tend to be on the right wing side. -GTW ** Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod000301) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[scifinoir2] Re: Are their any left wing military sci-fi writers?
In a message dated 5/12/08 10:46:07 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Joe Haldeman if you look at his early work only. He branched off since The Forever War, of course. I want to say that there's another Vietnam vet is also a SF writer. I have to put my thinking cap on. I think David Drake is the other writer that you're looking for. :) Both fit the bill what I was centering on recent day. -GTW ** Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod000301) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] CBS Cancels Jericho
Nuts is right. At least the show is going out on a high note. This is the reason why I rarely watch commercial TV. -GTW In a message dated 3/22/08 10:14:34 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Score one more for the demise of quality shows on TV... :( I wonder what it's like in the mirror universe? You know, that alternate reality where Jericho, John Doe, Dresden Files and Frank's Place are still on TV, and American Idol is synonymous with bad quality? ** CBS cancels 'Jericho' By James Hibberd March 22, 2008 UPDATED 1:21 p.m. PT, March 21, 2008 Complete pilot season coverage CBS has nuked Jericho. Producers were told Thursday the show is ending its run on the broadcast network, sources said. CBS will air the season finale next week with a resolution that helps give closure to fans. After the first season concluded with an abrupt cut to black, fans famously inundated CBS with tens of thousands of pounds of peanuts to urge the network to continue the show. For the seven-episode second season, producers shot two endings -- one that leaves viewers in suspense for a third round, another that is more conclusive. The ending chosen by CBS will wrap up the final season's storyline, where the nuclear war survivors of a Kansas town struggled under a violent occupation by a government contractor. The March 25th episode of Jericho will be the series finale, CBS said in a statement. Without question, there are passionate viewers watching this program; we simply wish there were more. We thank an engaged and spirited fan base for keeping the show alive this long, and an outstanding team of producers, cast and crew that went through creative hoops to deliver a compelling, high quality second season. We have no regrets bringing the show back for a second try. We listened to our viewers, gave the series an opportunity to grow, and the producers put a great story on the screen. We're proud of everyone's efforts. Tuesday's finale doesn't entirely slam the door on the series, but is notably different from the cliffhanger version, sources said. The ending also doesn't entirely preclude the possibility of Jericho finding a second life on cable. The high cost of the production, however, will likely prevent a continuation of the show. Despite the erosion of broadcast ratings in recent years, the massive protest that saved Jericho last year has been called the largest fan effort ever to try and halt a network cancellation of a series. The outcry put CBS in a tough position, whether to renew a show that has below-the-line ratings, yet unprecedented fan support. Jericho also performed well online on CBS.com and in iTunes downloads. Unfortunately for the network and fans, the second season's Nielsen ratings were even lower than the first. The most recent episodes have averaged about a 1.9 rating among adults 18 to 49 in the show's Tuesdays at 10 p.m. time period. The network's decision to cancel the show still might not have been easy, but it was easier to see coming. 'Jericho' is unique because the fans saved it -- watching it on the Internet and streaming and iTunes downloads, all those things that are not being counted, said executive producer Carol Barbee in a recent interview. That's what 'Jericho' will be known for. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ** Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15?ncid=aolhom000301) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Many TV series face uncertain futures
It just tells me how stupid the american viewing public is. And really makes me worried about the future of this country of 'couch potatoes'. And makes me think we will never see a new golden age of american tv again in my lifetime. -GTW In a message dated 3/13/08 9:21:32 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 've got $2.50... Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The story of a car and his man lives on, but Jericho goes off into the sunset. I'm putting $20 in to start a new network. Who's in with me? brent wodehouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.reuters.com/article/entertainmentNews/idUSN1325120920080313 Many TV series face uncertain futures Thu Mar 13, 2008 By James Hibberd LOS ANGELES (Hollywood Reporter) - At this point in the season, the strictly defined countries of renewed and canceled have acres of gray area in between. A couple dozen shows are clustered near the border, on the verge of being declared dead or alive for next season. Without belaboring the obvious (ABC's Cashmere Mafia isn't coming back; Fox's Bones is), here's the latest industry buzz on some of the most talked-about titles: - Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles. Fans need not worry: Sources say that Terminator will be back. Fox executives like the creative product and thought the finale's performance last week was solid. The network also spent a considerable amount marketing the show, giving Season 2 some cost benefit. Also: The fourth Terminator movie comes out in 2009, and as The Simpsons Movie proved, there are promotional advantages to film-TV synergy. - Scrubs. The dead comedy-turned-backroom hot commodity remains poised to jump to ABC from longtime home NBC. The cast has been told to return to work March 24. Cast member John C. McGinley said recently that he was told that the 18 episodes we're going to do starting that day will be on ABC next fall. But the show's producer, ABC Studios, insists the work is just reshoots. Just, you know, everyday reshoots of a series NBC has refused to order more episodes of. - How I Met Your Mother. Granted, Mother usually is the weakest ratings link in CBS' Monday night comedy lineup. But that lineup sets a high bar, representing the most successful comedy block on television. The headline-making stunt casting of Britney Spears in an upcoming episode is sure to boost viewership. Not to mention, CBS' comedy-starved rivals would be tempted to snatch up the show if canceled. Verdict: Probably not going anywhere. - Knight Rider. The February movie performed well for NBC. Sources say the network is in talks with a producer who is familiar with NBC primetime, which suggests a regular series order is likely. - Moonlight. CBS is playing wait-and-see with this Friday night show about a vampire private detective. The network is curious whether the show's fans return once it comes back from its strike-induced hiatus. But Moonlight fans are passionate, the show fits well into CBS' Friday night alternative crime block and an eventual pickup is probable. - Jericho. CBS must decide quickly since only three episodes remain in Season 2, and the network has to choose Ending A or Ending B. Two conclusions to the season have been shot. One puts a narrative lid on the apocalyptic series (lest protesting fans pelt CBS executives with thousands of pounds of nuts again), the other more of a cliffhanger. CBS notes that the show gains from DVR viewership and online viewing, but after its performance the past two weeks, most doubt the citizens of Jericho will live to fight another season. - Reaper. Critics loved the pilot of the CW's supernatural drama, then griped that the series lost its way. The show returns Thursday night against ABC's Lost and needs divine intervention to come back strong enough to make the network add it to its list of previously announced pickups. The chances for the CW comedy Aliens look even slimmer. - Law Order. The longest-running primetime drama on television will come back for a 19th season, sources say, with new co-star Anthony Anderson. USA Network's LO: Criminal Intent, which is recycled on NBC, looks likely to return. - Friday Night Lights. NBC is in talks with DirecTV for the satellite broadcaster to share the costs for a third season in exchange for some exclusive distribution opportunities. - Prison Break. Producers are pitching a Season 4 story arc to Fox, which is expected to pick up the show. - According to Jim. ABC's perennial bubble show is looking likely to escape the ax one more time. - 'Til Death and Back to You. Despite modest returns, both Fox comedies probably will return in the fall. Reuters/Hollywood Reporter ** It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money amp; Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf000301) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Gonna Go Back to 10,000 B.C?
Glad to see I wasn't the only one who did that. Even left a group of friends who brought me there (even paid for my ticket-and yes they were white). And got into a heated 'discussion' about why I did so afterwards (which only a two of the group agreed and fully backed me on it). I've forced myself to see it again since it's now running on cable and I'm glad I've made the right choice. It looks like I'll just save myself the trouble and skip BC also and wait until it comes on cable. Which is sad because I'm a fan of the director. -GTW In a message dated 3/7/08 2:50:32 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 10,000 BC is just another racially negative fantasy like 300...subliminally diluting the images and histories of minorities. I actually wanted to like 300 but when I saw them kick the first black guys in a pit...then cut off the arm of another cowering black manthen cut off the head of the black general sending it screaming at the screenthen Xerses being an giant mixed race fairy.not forgetting all the unmuscled hordes of soldiers of color being crushed by a handful of ripped Spartans...I said man its 2007 and still this crap.I just walked out the theater. ** It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money amp; Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf000301) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: It's Over for Jericho
While I'm a big Jericho fan my experiance any show that lasts when the networks wish otherwise doesn't turn out to be good. And their are many examples out their to prove this.So To be honest I would rather have the creators end the show on their terms instead of the networks.An it's looks like they are using their chance to do just that. -GTW In a message dated 2/23/08 10:48:10 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was still watching. I think the network's scheduling decisions doomed the show. Killing off one of the main characters in the season finale seems to have hurt the show as well. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I posted an e-mail the day the show was returning, then posted a follow up asking if anyone here was watching. Only one reply, and that was from Gymfig, who doesn't watch the show at all. Is anyone here watching it? I also have to repeat my complaint at CBS' not showing the entire series again in the weeks leading up to the return. That irritates me. I watched the whole series, but missed the last three eps and didn't want to watch them on my laptop. I was waiting and waiting, just *knowing* that CBS would rerun the series again, in order to build up more interest. But they didn't. I guess they were too busy selling it to SciFi. I don't get that strategy. ABC did the same thing with Lost, which is maddening. Too bad. Maybe my fantasy billionaire will pick up the show! :) ** Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp0030002598) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[scifinoir2] Re: Clinton Will WIn By Losing South Carolina
While I truely can see this working. And I can see both Hillary and Bill (remember Sister Solder anyone) doing something like this. It will probally do some major long term harm to the democratic party as many blacks eventually see thru this.And for many it will probally be that finial straw which forces them to leave the dems and either go for another party, form a new one. Or more probally just drop out of politics all together. And once they do it will be very hard for the dems to get these people back. More importantly other eithnic groups-especially latinos then to watch how political parties treat blacks and respond in kind. The example of which are latinos who after seeing how the repubs treated them over imigration have left that party in droves for democraits. However once they will also see thru this and also begin to avoid the dems to do the same thing as blacks. Which in the end with our diversifying nation will probally doom the party futurewise. It just gives me one more reason why I'm also not voting for Hilliary (who I concider a DINO)-even it she does get the nod. -GTW In a message dated 1/23/08 3:47:11 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: People are tired of the same shit over and over again. Hilliary is cool but she represents the same shit to me. We need something new and a breath of fresh air. If Hilliary gets the nom. I'm voting for the indie candidate. On Jan 23, 2008 3:38 PM, B. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: She may win the nomination but I have a feeling Obama's coalition won't support her in a general election. The Clintons' tactics have left a bad taste in lot of black folks mouths and the younger voters and independents will stay away. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How Clinton Will WIn The Nomination By Losing South Carolina How Clinton Will WIn The Nomination By Losing South Carolina By Dick Morris and Eileen McGann Wednesday, January 23, 2008 Hillary Clinton will undoubtedly lose the South Carolina primary as African-Americans line up to vote for Barack Obama. And that defeat will power her drive to the nomination. The Clintons are encouraging the national media to disregard the whites who vote in South Carolina’s Democratic primary and focus on the black turnout, which is expected to be quite large. They have transformed South Carolina into Washington, D.C. †an all-black primary that tells us how the African-American vote is going to go. By saying he will go door to door in black neighborhoods in South Carolina matching his civil rights record against Obama’s, Bill Clinton emphasizes the pivotal role the black vo te will play in the contest. And by openly matching his record on race with that of the black candidate, he invites more and more scrutiny focused on the race issue. Of course, Clinton is going to lose that battle. Blacks in Nevada overwhelmingly backed Obama and will obviously do so again in South Carolina, no matter how loudly former President Clinton protests. So why is he making such a fuss over a contest he knows he’s going to lose? Precisely because he is going to lose it. If Hillary loses South Carolina and the defeat serves to demonstrate Obama’s ability to attract a bloc vote among black Democrats, the message will go out loud and clear to white voters that this is a racial fight. It’s one thing for polls to show, as they now do, that Obama beats Hillary among African-Americans by better than 4-to-1 and Hillary carries whites by almost 2-to-1. But most people don’t read the fine print on the polls. But if blacks deliver South Carolina to Obama, everybody will know that they are bloc-voting. That will trigger a massive whi te backlash against Obama and will drive white voters to Hillary Clinton. Obama has done everything he possibly could to keep race out of this election. And the Clintons attracted national scorn when they tried to bring it back in by attempting to minimize the role Martin Luther King Jr. played in the civil rights movement. But here they have a way of appearing to seek the black vote, losing it, and getting their white backlash, all without any fingerprints showing. The more President Clinton begs black voters to back his wife, and the more they spurn her, the more the election becomes about race †and Obama ultimately loses. Because they have such plans for South Carolina, the Clintons were desperate to win in Nevada. They dared not lose two primaries in a row leading up to Florida. But now they can lose South Carolina with impunity, having won in Nevada. But don’t look for them
[scifinoir2] Re: Clinton Will WIn By Losing South Carolina
Agree. And the repubs not only know this. They are hoping on it. Another thing this will to is depress the voter turn out among dems. And a low voter turn out always favored the repugs. So if the dems do lose the general you can put a major portion of it on the Clintions. -GTW In a message dated 1/23/08 4:55:28 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Clintons' and their black surrogates started this mess by first questioning Obama's blackness and now have seemingly been successful by trying to pin him down as the black candidate. This debate didn't get heated until after Iowa and New Hampshire where race was less of a factor because both states had overwhelmingly white electorates. When Nevada and South Carolina got closer the tactics and rhetoric has changed drastically. I know lots of black people that weren't and still aren't sold on Obama but the Clinton camp's tactics have moved them to the Obama side. Lets not even talk about voter suppression, whisper campaigns and other dirty tricks that have played out during the early primaries. Bill Clinton has definitely diminished his stature with his tactics and outright lies. He'll use every bit of influence and leverage he has to win the election but it has damaged Hillary's campaign and the general election will slip out of their grasp. ** Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[scifinoir2] Re: Clinton Will WIn By Losing South Carolina
In a message dated 1/23/08 9:47:38 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think the Clintons are so caught up in what they want, I do not think that they care if they take down the party. I think they are oblivious to that fact that all these games might win them the nomination, but doom us to another eight years of republicans without them in charge again. They said the republican party was doomed, but it seems as if the Democratic party is. I think the Clintons will serve to revitalize the Republican party. You're right tdlists. All you have to do is to take a look at their past campaign tactics to prove your point. Personally I feel that the Clintions are concentraiting on winning the nomination, then the election first. Then patching up the wreckage from the campaign afterwards. However like you I also see the Clintons serving to revitalize the Repubs. However I also a very divived democratic party (which I am part of) that's only being barely held together by their 'dislike' (if not stronger) of Bush and the repugs. And I expect this party to fragment even further if not shatter all together unless someone, or something comes up to patch up the the fault lines. What is a DINO? DINO = Democrait In Name Only -GTW ** Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[scifinoir2] Re: Clinton Will WIn By Losing South Carolina
True. But I also hope I'm wrong because I feel the US and the world can't stand another 4 years or repug rule. -GTW In a message dated 1/23/08 9:50:21 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Perhaps the republicans had Clinton pegged right all along [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Agree. And the repubs not only know this. They are hoping on it. Another thing this will to is depress the voter turn out among dems. And a low voter turn out always favored the repugs. So if the dems do lose the general you can put a major portion of it on the Clintions. -GTW In a message dated 1/23/08 4:55:28 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Clintons' and their black surrogates started this mess by first questioning Obama's blackness and now have seemingly been successful by trying to pin him down as the black candidate. This debate didn't get heated until after Iowa and New Hampshire where race was less of a factor because both states had overwhelmingly white electorates. When Nevada and South Carolina got closer the tactics and rhetoric has changed drastically. I know lots of black people that weren't and still aren't sold on Obama but the Clinton camp's tactics have moved them to the Obama side. Lets not even talk about voter suppression, whisper campaigns and other dirty tricks that have played out during the early primaries. Bill Clinton has definitely diminished his stature with his tactics and outright lies. He'll use every bit of influence and leverage he has to win the election but it has damaged Hillary's campaign and the general election will slip out of their grasp. ** Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Giant Monsters: The Best and The Worst
Well their is a new anime series called Godanar that is an updated version of those traditional giant robot shows. That is while its done using current animation styles. It still keeps the favor of those old school robot shows. I think it's rather good (though I wish they cut back on the fan service though-it's starting to get in the way of a damn good unfolding story). -GTW In a message dated 1/21/08 6:35:12 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Now I wish I could get into following the cartoons again...Somewhere along the line, I stopped watching them... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Exactly. Thats one of the many reasons why I put them in the giant monster catergory. Many times they were more villian than hero (unlike those from traditional giant robot shows). -GTW ** Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] 'Doomsday' Trailer
I think a better explanation for it is that it's Hollyweird. And you can always count on them to go screw up/run to the ground a good idea. -GTW In a message dated 1/20/08 2:07:44 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Because...Someone got that 'Great Idea' and...well...you know the rest, that horrible left turn at the Thunderdome... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good premise the plague and stuff. Lousy execution-why did they had to go the Mad Max route. They could have easily taken another more orginal path. -GTW In a message dated 1/20/08 12:54:47 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So here I am, sitting here and grunting like Tim Allen...Like, maybe they're right...they are running out of idea... brent wodehouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dunno. Looks a bit Mad Max-ish to me. http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1809834146/video/5955640/20080115/148/5955640-1 00-flash-s.55154954-,5955640-100-wmv-s.55154946-,5955640-300-flash-s.55154956 -,5955640-300-wmv-s.55154948-,5955640-700-flash-s.55154958-,5955640-700-wmv-s .55154951-,5955640- 1000-flash-s.55154960-,5955640-1000-wmv-s.55154952-,5955641-2700-qtv-s.551549 62-,5955641-6800-qtv-s.55154963-,5955641-10300-qtv-s.55154966- ** Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Giant Monsters: The Best and The Worst
Did a mention those eva's were piloted by teens in need of some serious psy time. 'nuff said. -GTW In a message dated 1/20/08 9:19:20 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The big G (Godzilla) of course. Every other monster has been trying to bet him ever since. Honorable mention: The Eva's from Evangelion due to property damage they cause (even the big G didn't take out a sea fleet by 'dancing' on it-the red eva did). -GTW In a message dated 1/20/08 8:02:18 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: With the Premeir of Cloverfeild Entertainment Weekly did a spread of the Best Giant Monsters In movie History. Which monster makes the top of your list and which monster belongs on the bottom? Their list includes: The Cloverfield Infant with accompanying parasites Kraken in ''Clash of the Titans'' Sta-Puft Marshmallow Man in ''Ghostbusters'' King Kong Godzilla The Blob NANCY ARCHER - Attack of the 50 Foot Woman QUETZALCOATL - Q THE SANDWORMS OF ARRAKIS - Dune THE T-REX The Lost World: Jurassic Park THE BALROG - The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring Dragons in Reign of Fire UNNAMED HUGE MUTANT CREATURE - The Host See there list at: http://www.ew.com/ew/gallery/0,,20171850,00.html The think they should have included, Alien, and The Monster from the Mist ** Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Giant Monsters: The Best and The Worst
Exactly. Thats one of the many reasons why I put them in the giant monster catergory. Many times they were more villian than hero (unlike those from traditional giant robot shows). -GTW In a message dated 1/20/08 4:36:54 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Evas, referring to the giant mecha in the anime Neon Genesis Evangelion. In fighting the evil creatures, they often killed more people than they saved. Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Evas? Something I missed because I no longer can get Skiffy? Took me the longest to figure out what 'skiffy' was... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did a mention those eva's were piloted by teens in need of some serious psy time. 'nuff said. -GTW In a message dated 1/20/08 9:19:20 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The big G (Godzilla) of course. Every other monster has been trying to bet him ever since. Honorable mention: The Eva's from Evangelion due to property damage they cause (even the big G didn't take out a sea fleet by 'dancing' on it-the red eva did). -GTW In a message dated 1/20/08 8:02:18 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: With the Premeir of Cloverfeild Entertainment Weekly did a spread of the Best Giant Monsters In movie History. Which monster makes the top of your list and which monster belongs on the bottom? Their list includes: The Cloverfield Infant with accompanying parasites Kraken in ''Clash of the Titans'' Sta-Puft Marshmallow Man in ''Ghostbusters'' King Kong Godzilla The Blob NANCY ARCHER - Attack of the 50 Foot Woman QUETZALCOATL - Q THE SANDWORMS OF ARRAKIS - Dune THE T-REX The Lost World: Jurassic Park THE BALROG - The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring Dragons in Reign of Fire UNNAMED HUGE MUTANT CREATURE - The Host See there list at: http://www.ew.com/ew/gallery/0,,20171850,00.html The think they should have included, Alien, and The Monster from the Mist ** Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] 'Doomsday' Trailer
Good premise the plague and stuff. Lousy execution-why did they had to go the Mad Max route. They could have easily taken another more orginal path. -GTW In a message dated 1/20/08 12:54:47 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So here I am, sitting here and grunting like Tim Allen...Like, maybe they're right...they are running out of idea... brent wodehouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dunno. Looks a bit Mad Max-ish to me. http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1809834146/video/5955640/20080115/148/5955640-1 00-flash-s.55154954-,5955640-100-wmv-s.55154946-,5955640-300-flash-s.55154956 -,5955640-300-wmv-s.55154948-,5955640-700-flash-s.55154958-,5955640-700-wmv-s .55154951-,5955640- 1000-flash-s.55154960-,5955640-1000-wmv-s.55154952-,5955641-2700-qtv-s.551549 62-,5955641-6800-qtv-s.55154963-,5955641-10300-qtv-s.55154966- ** Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Clinton, Obama step back from flap
Okay. I stand corrected and actually I can see it. I may not be an Obama supporter but I do lke the fact he has tried to take the high road during this campaign. The Clintions have been know for using under-the-table dirty tricks. Especially when they are up against the wall (like Hillary is now). -GTW In a message dated 1/15/08 2:20:41 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Actually, I read several sources that said Obama called the truce in the middle of a speech. I think that thereafter the Clintons had no choice. I'm not surprised. I remember that there used to read about people who could testify against in their various cases them dying under mysterious circumstances or committing suicide in bizarre ways. (more than 20 people) It was rumored they were behind it. If it is true, then campaign dirty tricks is small time for them. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Same here. The last thing we need is to give blacks more excuses to stay home instead of going to vote. I got the feeling someone in Clinton's camp told her that. -GTW In a message dated 1/14/08 9:06:42 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Wit a very heavy heart, I have to agree sigh Daryle wrote: This is one of those things you can$B.(Bt recover from. The damage is already done. I think that if the party loses this year, we can trace it all back to New Hampshire. On 1/14/08 8:38 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080115/ap_on_el_pr/campaign_rdp Democratic presidential rivals Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama stepped back from a controversy over race Monday night, agreeing that a prolonged clash over civil rights could harm their party's overall drive to win the White House. The two leading Democratic contenders shifted course as Republicans pointed toward Tuesday's pivotal primary in Michigan, where Mitt Romney and John McCain both pledged to lead a revival for a state and an auto industry ravaged by recession. Obama was the first to try and quell the controversy that flared in the Democratic campaign in recent days, calling reporters together to say he didn't want the campaign to degenerate into so much tit-for-tat, back-and-forth that we lose sight of why all of us are doing this. Referring to Clinton and former Sen. John Edwards, he said that while they may have disagreements, we share the same goals. We're all Democrats, we all believe in civil rights, we all believe in equal rights. Clinton's campaign issued a statement in the same vein about an hour or so after Obama spoke, saying it was time to seek common ground. And in that spirit, let's come together, because I want more than anything else to ensure that our family stays together on the front lines of the struggle to expand rights for all Americans, she said. Strikingly, though, one of Clinton's supporters, New York Rep. Charles Rangel, was sharply critical of Obama in an interview during the day. How race got into this thing is because Obama said 'race,' Rangel, the dean of the Congressional Black Caucus, said on NY1. For all the maneuvering, Democrats are without a contested election on Tuesday. That was in contrast to the Republican campaign, where McCain and Romney battled in a Michigan primary that neither could afford to lose. I will not rest until Michigan is back, said Romney, a native son who jabbed at his rival for saying many jobs among the thousands lost will never return. We will create new jobs, insisted McCain, who also favors improvements in federal programs for laid-off workers. We have the innovation, the talent, the knowledge and the ability ... to regain Michigan's position as the best in the world. Polls showed McCain and Romney in a close race, with former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee running third. Of the three, Romney is most in need of a victory as he looks to restore at least some of the luster lost with defeats in the Iowa caucuses and New Hampshire primary. Several associates have suggested the former Massachusetts governor may quit the race unless he prevails. McCain won the state's primary eight years ago on the strength of independent voters, and hopes for a reprise on Tuesday. He has regained the lead in the national polls that he enjoyed months ago before his campaign nearly came apart over the summer. Huckabee has less at stake in Michigan than either of his two rivals, and hopes to attract votes from those hard-hit by the state's economic troubles, as well as from evangelical Christians, who powered him to victory in the Iowa caucuses. He, too, campaigned on economic issues during the day. Some of the toughest competition your company faces is from its own government, whose tax policies, whose regulatory
Re: [scifinoir2] Review: Harry knows what CLOVERFIELD is!!!
Okay. It looks like this is exactly what I've been waiting for (and hoped that the american Godilliza would have bee). Namely a non-campy, realistic, big-fucking-monster-tearing-up-city film that re-events the gendre (I hope the next new big-G film using this formula is next-never mind that the last big-G flim was supposed to be the last one). Now I'm going to have to see this flick. -GTW In a message dated 1/14/08 2:55:26 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Harry knows what CLOVERFIELD is!!! http://www.aintitcool.com/node/35236 Utterly Brilliant. What is CLOVERFIELD? For the past year or so, that’s been the question that everyone has been asking. Well… they also wanted to know: What was that trailer? What’s the name of this movie? Who are those actors? What is a SLUSHO? What does any of this mean? Having seen the film, I can tell you – I have completely forgotten the marketing. I no longer care why the film is titled CLOVERFIELD, I don’t think it has a secret meaning – other than the fact that the movie that the marketing would lead you to, if it will… will knock your cinema-going mind into the floor of the theater. CLOVERFIELD is a bold genre-reinvention unlike anything we’ve ever seen before. The basic premise that we know is there. The film is found footage, not an assembled film. The footage is recovered in Central Park. From trailers and ads you know that it probably starts at a party, something happens, and we think there is a giant monster. You’re pretty sure there’s a giant monster attacking New York City… specifically Manhattan. Well, I’ve just come home from watching CLOVERFIELD. The security on me and my wife for seeing this movie was un-frickin-believable. I suppose some would have the temptation to snap a pic of the monster and send it out online to end, forever, the “mystery” – but folks… there’s no mystery. The movie is fucking brilliant. It’s what we were told it was going to be. An intimate perspective on an impossibly grand scale human disaster beyond most human levels of comprehension. What is the monster? How do you describe something that doesn’t look like anything you’ve ever seen before? It’s not a fucking upright walking whale. It doesn’t look like any iteration of GODZILLA that we’ve ever seen. It is enormous. And even though I’ve seen it… I am hard-pressed to come up with a comparative creation. You know that big fucking thing in THE MIST? It isn’t that. Is the creature a biped? I’m not sure, I think it might’ve been a four-legged beastie… it has a tail, it has teeth and freaky eyes like that horse that died in ANIMAL HOUSE. It’s kinda of a grayish-yellowish-off-white looking thing. But more important than the creature is what this fucker does. He basically goes bug-nuts. The creature isn’t the groundbreaking thing about the film. It is, but it isn’t. You see, what has me so excited about this film is that this is the giant monster movie that isn’t at all like any giant monster movie we’ve seen before… but is exactly that movie. I guarantee you that as this movie takes place… all the shit that you’ve seen in Giant monster movies is happening. Somewhere a general is screaming about nuking New York…. Somewhere is a politician screaming that you can’t nuke New York. Another General wants to know why our weapons are not affecting this thing. A PRESIDENT wants to know where it came from – and several thousand journalist are trying to figure all that out too. But this film isn’t about the scientist, the generals, the Presidents, the mayors or any of the big people. This time, the film is from the perspective of those people that live in those buildings that the monster is breaking through. This is about the people running in the street that scream, “GODZILLA!!!” and run. This is about trying to survive that insanity. Not just that, but to try and save one life. Like SAVING PRIVATE RYAN, but instead of Nazis it’s a giant monster. This is a handheld camera movie – knowing this and knowing not to sit too close is probably a good thing… but having said that… you can’t sit far enough from the screen to feel safe. As many of you people know, I am in a wheelchair – and while watching movies, I have my brakes on. There was one moment, so unexpected and so intense that I went 3 ft back. What about the characters? You learn everything you need about them in the first 20 minutes. Rob is going to Japan to a new job. He has a brother Jason and a best friend Hud who gets strapped with filming testimonials at his surprise party – but Hud has the hots for Marlena and got talked into it by Jason – who was told to do it by Lily, who loves him. Oh – and they’re taping over a tape that Rob shot of the morning after he and Beth finally did it – after being friends forever. But now he has to go to Japan for his career and Beth shows up with some dick at his party because he didn’t know how
Re: [scifinoir2] Clinton, Obama step back from flap
Same here. The last thing we need is to give blacks more excuses to stay home instead of going to vote. I got the feeling someone in Clinton's camp told her that. -GTW In a message dated 1/14/08 9:06:42 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Wit a very heavy heart, I have to agree sigh Daryle wrote: This is one of those things you can〓t recover from. The damage is already done. I think that if the party loses this year, we can trace it all back to New Hampshire. On 1/14/08 8:38 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080115/ap_on_el_pr/campaign_rdp Democratic presidential rivals Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama stepped back from a controversy over race Monday night, agreeing that a prolonged clash over civil rights could harm their party's overall drive to win the White House. The two leading Democratic contenders shifted course as Republicans pointed toward Tuesday's pivotal primary in Michigan, where Mitt Romney and John McCain both pledged to lead a revival for a state and an auto industry ravaged by recession. Obama was the first to try and quell the controversy that flared in the Democratic campaign in recent days, calling reporters together to say he didn't want the campaign to degenerate into so much tit-for-tat, back-and-forth that we lose sight of why all of us are doing this. Referring to Clinton and former Sen. John Edwards, he said that while they may have disagreements, we share the same goals. We're all Democrats, we all believe in civil rights, we all believe in equal rights. Clinton's campaign issued a statement in the same vein about an hour or so after Obama spoke, saying it was time to seek common ground. And in that spirit, let's come together, because I want more than anything else to ensure that our family stays together on the front lines of the struggle to expand rights for all Americans, she said. Strikingly, though, one of Clinton's supporters, New York Rep. Charles Rangel, was sharply critical of Obama in an interview during the day. How race got into this thing is because Obama said 'race,' Rangel, the dean of the Congressional Black Caucus, said on NY1. For all the maneuvering, Democrats are without a contested election on Tuesday. That was in contrast to the Republican campaign, where McCain and Romney battled in a Michigan primary that neither could afford to lose. I will not rest until Michigan is back, said Romney, a native son who jabbed at his rival for saying many jobs among the thousands lost will never return. We will create new jobs, insisted McCain, who also favors improvements in federal programs for laid-off workers. We have the innovation, the talent, the knowledge and the ability ... to regain Michigan's position as the best in the world. Polls showed McCain and Romney in a close race, with former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee running third. Of the three, Romney is most in need of a victory as he looks to restore at least some of the luster lost with defeats in the Iowa caucuses and New Hampshire primary. Several associates have suggested the former Massachusetts governor may quit the race unless he prevails. McCain won the state's primary eight years ago on the strength of independent voters, and hopes for a reprise on Tuesday. He has regained the lead in the national polls that he enjoyed months ago before his campaign nearly came apart over the summer. Huckabee has less at stake in Michigan than either of his two rivals, and hopes to attract votes from those hard-hit by the state's economic troubles, as well as from evangelical Christians, who powered him to victory in the Iowa caucuses. He, too, campaigned on economic issues during the day. Some of the toughest competition your company faces is from its own government, whose tax policies, whose regulatory policies, the threat of litigation, makes it real tough to stay in business, he told employees at a Demmer Corp. plant near Lansing that makes armored personnel carriers for the military. Romney went before the Detroit Economic Club for a speech meant to appeal to laid-off workers as well as voters who recall his father's tenure as governor a generation ago. I've got Michigan in my DNA. I've got it in my heart, and I've got cars in my bloodstream, he said. A former Massachusetts governor, Romney promised to convene a White House summit within 100 days of taking office to produce a solution to the auto industry's long-term slide. In remarks that could apply to President Bush and the Republicans who controlled Congress for a decade, he said, Washington politicians look at Michigan and see a rust belt. But the real rust is in Washington. McCain spoke constantly of the productivity of Michigan workers. As president of the United
Re: [scifinoir2] How the iPhone Blew Up the Wireless Industry
The only reason why I haven't gotten a iPhone (besides it's high price) is the fact you have to get ATT as a service. And I despise ATT, but am also too damn lazy (and more than a bit scared to crack open one) to modify an iPhone enough (via various third-party software/hardware add-ons) to use other wireless phone services. Still you have to admit it's a damn good invention-that is the worlds smallest laptop computer that doubles and a phone. -GTW In a message dated 1/11/08 4:16:08 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The demo was not going well. Again. It was a late morning in the fall of 2006. Almost a year earlier, Steve Jobs had tasked about 200 of Apple's top engineers with creating the iPhone. Yet here, in Apple's boardroom, it was clear that the prototype was still a disaster. It wasn't just buggy, it flat-out didn't work. The phone dropped calls constantly, the battery stopped charging before it was full, data and applications routinely became corrupted and unusable. The list of problems seemed endless. At the end of the demo, Jobs fixed the dozen or so people in the room with a level stare and said, We don't have a product yet. The effect was even more terrifying than one of Jobs' trademark tantrums. When the Apple chief screamed at his staff, it was scary but familiar. This time, his relative calm was unnerving. It was one of the few times at Apple when I got a chill, says someone who was in the meeting. The ramifications were serious. The iPhone was to be the centerpiece of Apple's annual Macworld convention, set to take place in just a few months. Since his return to Apple in 1997, Jobs had used the event as a showcase to launch his biggest products, and Apple-watchers were expecting another dramatic announcement. Jobs had already admitted that Leopard — the new version of Apple's operating system — would be delayed. If the iPhone wasn't ready in time, Macworld would be a dud, Jobs' critics would pounce, and Apple's stock price could suffer. This 4.8-ounce sliver of glass and aluminum is an explosive device that has forever changed the mobile-phone business, wresting power from carriers and giving it to manufacturers, developers, and consumers. And what would ATT think? After a year and a half of secret meetings, Jobs had finally negotiated terms with the wireless division of the telecom giant (Cingular at the time) to be the iPhone's carrier. In return for five years of exclusivity, roughly 10 percent of iPhone sales in ATT stores, and a thin slice of Apple's iTunes revenue, ATT had granted Jobs unprecedented power. He had cajoled ATT into spending millions of dollars and thousands of man-hours to create a new feature, so-called visual voicemail, and to reinvent the time-consuming in-store sign-up process. He'd also wrangled a unique revenue-sharing arrangement, garnering roughly $10 a month from every iPhone customer's ATT bill. On top of all that, Apple retained complete control over the design, manufacturing, and marketing of the iPhone. Jobs had done the unthinkable: squeezed a good deal out of one of the largest players in the entrenched wireless industry. Now, the least he could do was meet his deadlines. For those working on the iPhone, the next three months would be the most stressful of their careers. Screaming matches broke out routinely in the hallways. Engineers, frazzled from all-night coding sessions, quit, only to rejoin days later after catching up on their sleep. A product manager slammed the door to her office so hard that the handle bent and locked her in; it took colleagues more than an hour and some well-placed whacks with an aluminum bat to free her. But by the end of the push, just weeks before Macworld, Jobs had a prototype to show to the suits at ATT. In mid-December 2006, he met wireless boss Stan Sigman at a suite in the Four Seasons hotel in Las Vegas. He showed off the iPhone's brilliant screen, its powerful Web browser, its engaging user interface. Sigman, a taciturn Texan steeped in the conservative engineering traditions that permeate America's big phone companies, was uncharacteristically effusive, calling the iPhone the best device I have ever seen. (Details of this and other key moments in the making of the iPhone were provided by people with knowledge of the events. Apple and ATT would not discuss these meetings or the specific terms of the relationship.) Six months later, on June 29, 2007, the iPhone went on sale. At press time, analysts were speculating that customers would snap up about 3 million units by the end of 2007, making it the fastest-selling smartphone of all time. It is also arguably Apple's most profitable device. The company nets an estimated $80 for every $399 iPhone it sells, and that's
Re: [scifinoir2] How the iPhone Blew Up the Wireless Industry
That's true but newer firmware updates are comming on line to correct that problem. Which proves that Apple now has a problem with folks who do like the iPhone, but doesn't like the ATT service to go with it (something that apple folks seem to have a history of). Hince the iPhone cat--mouse game. -GTW In a message dated 1/11/08 6:24:42 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: from what i heard, the latest firmware updates can possible cause havoc with an iPod that someone's been modifying to use other carriers... -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The only reason why I haven't gotten a iPhone (besides it's high price) is the fact you have to get ATT as a service. And I despise ATT, but am also too damn lazy (and more than a bit scared to crack open one) to modify an iPhone enough (via various third-party software/hardware add-ons) to use other wireless phone services. Still you have to admit it's a damn good invention-that is the worlds smallest laptop computer that doubles and a phone. -GTW In a message dated 1/11/08 4:16:08 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The demo was not going well. Again. It was a late morning in the fall of 2006. Almost a year earlier, Steve Jobs had tasked about 200 of Apple's top engineers with creating the iPhone. Yet here, in Apple's boardroom, it was clear that the prototype was still a disaster. It wasn't just buggy, it flat-out didn't work. The phone dropped calls constantly, the battery stopped charging before it was full, data and applications routinely became corrupted and unusable. The list of problems seemed endless. At the end of the demo, Jobs fixed the dozen or so people in the room with a level stare and said, We don't have a product yet. The effect was even more terrifying than one of Jobs' trademark tantrums. When the Apple chief screamed at his staff, it was scary but familiar. This time, his relative calm was unnerving. It was one of the few times at Apple when I got a chill, says someone who was in the meeting. The ramifications were serious. The iPhone was to be the centerpiece of Apple's annual Macworld convention, set to take place in just a few months. Since his return to Apple in 1997, Jobs had used the event as a showcase to launch his biggest products, and Apple-watchers were expecting another dramatic announcement. Jobs had already admitted that Leopard — the new version of Apple's operating system — would be delayed. If the iPhone wasn't ready in time, Macworld would be a dud, Jobs' critics would pounce, and Apple's stock price could suffer. This 4.8-ounce sliver of glass and aluminum is an explosive device that has forever changed the mobile-phone business, wresting power from carriers and giving it to manufacturers, developers, and consumers. And what would ATT think? After a year and a half of secret meetings, Jobs had finally negotiated terms with the wireless division of the telecom giant (Cingular at the time) to be the iPhone's carrier. In return for five years of exclusivity, roughly 10 percent of iPhone sales in ATT stores, and a thin slice of Apple's iTunes revenue, ATT had granted Jobs unprecedented power. He had cajoled ATT into spending millions of dollars and thousands of man-hours to create a new feature, so-called visual voicemail, and to reinvent the time-consuming in-store sign-up process. He'd also wrangled a unique revenue-sharing arrangement, garnering roughly $10 a month from every iPhone customer's ATT bill. On top of all that, Apple retained complete control over the design, manufacturing, and marketing of the iPhone. Jobs had done the unthinkable: squeezed a good deal out of one of the largest players in the entrenched wireless industry. Now, the least he could do was meet his deadlines. For those working on the iPhone, the next three months would be the most stressful of their careers. Screaming matches broke out routinely in the hallways. Engineers, frazzled from all-night coding sessions, quit, only to rejoin days later after catching up on their sleep. A product manager slammed the door to her office so hard that the handle bent and locked her in; it took colleagues more than an hour and some well-placed whacks with an aluminum bat to free her. But by the end of the push, just weeks before Macworld, Jobs had a prototype to show to the suits at ATT. In mid-December 2006, he met wireless boss Stan Sigman at a suite in the Four Seasons hotel in Las Vegas. He showed off the iPhone's brilliant screen, its powerful Web browser, its engaging user interface. Sigman, a taciturn Texan steeped in the conservative engineering traditions that permeate America's big
Re: [scifinoir2] Baltimore Sun warily awaits new season of The Wire
The name escapes me but its's the fat black homicide detective that sometimes hung around with Detective Munch and the Irish detective. -GTW In a message dated 1/6/08 11:44:44 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: really? Which ones?! -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 1/6/08 9:20:42 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i gave up the cable premium channels years ago so didn't get to see the Wire. Always regreted it for that reason only, especially since some of the key folks behind Homicide--one of the best TV series ever--are behind The Wire. It's on my list of series to buy on DVD sometime this year. Well the other good point behind this season of the Wire is some of those same Homicide characters are showing up on the show in prime secondary roles starting out. -GTW ** Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Baltimore Sun warily awaits new season of The Wire
In a message dated 1/7/08 9:50:37 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: man or woman? light or dark skinned? Man, dark skinned (w/mustache) -GTW ** Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[scifinoir2] Re: Baltimore Sun warily awaits new season of The Wire
In a message dated 1/7/08 10:51:21 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bunk or Meldrick? Clark Johnson is on The Wire but he's playing a different character. I think it's Meldrick. Clark played another cop on Homicide but he's playing a editor on the Wire Excellent first episode. I've heard some people complain about it being slow but they laid the groundwork for a season's worth of goodies. It got an A+ for me the McNulty-Bunk stuff and Jimmy falling into old bad habits, Marlo making a run at Prop Joe and the scene of the icy, beautiful city council president Nerese losing control. Awesome stuff. Can't add anything more. -GTW ** Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Baltimore Sun warily awaits new season of The Wire
In a message dated 1/7/08 1:51:38 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: and i guess this isn't Yaphet Kotto? Other than Meldrick, Kotto (G), Andre Braugher (Frank), and G's son, I can't think of anyone else. There was the young actor who played a high ranking cop who usually got on their nerves due to his politicking (baumgardner), but he was slim and not dark in coloring Actually taking another look at the show. I have to say I was baddly wrong in this one. The person I saw was Bunk (the homicice keychain thru me off). Sorry. -GTW ** Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Baltimore Sun warily awaits new season of The Wire
In a message dated 1/6/08 9:20:42 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i gave up the cable premium channels years ago so didn't get to see the Wire. Always regreted it for that reason only, especially since some of the key folks behind Homicide--one of the best TV series ever--are behind The Wire. It's on my list of series to buy on DVD sometime this year. Well the other good point behind this season of the Wire is some of those same Homicide characters are showing up on the show in prime secondary roles starting out. -GTW ** Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Movies Watched Over The Holiday
Mars Rising series on the science channel-had it's faults but still is a good series. Outlaw Star anime series-forgot I brought it but also a good anime series a cross between Cowboy Bebop and Firefly (with a lot cooler ship). And various other crap. -GTW ** See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Plug Pulled on Netscape Navigator
In a message dated 12/30/07 10:48:25 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: a good friend of mine has been working with Linux for the last three years and puts it on all laptops and desktops he has. My goal for this winter is to build two computers. One i will keep as a Windows machine simply for ease of storing existing files. Probably keep it as XP, 'casue i don't care for Vista. The real goal, though, is to build a Linux box. Actually a friend of mine is seriously thinking about switching to Linux instead of moving over to OS 10.5 because it's more geared to Intel Macs instead of normal PPC macs (like his). He hates the idea that he has to upgrade to a new type of mac that has little-to-no difference performance wise because of an OS change. And after looking at the stats of both of them I agree with him. In my opinion the new mac OS is nothing more than apple embracing the Windows OS at the cost of mac fans. As for Netscape Navigator. It was the first browser I used-and used it for a while before I settle upon Firefox and Safari so it will aways have a fond spot in my heart. But yeah AOL did killed it and Firefox has surpassed it so to let it die a peaceful death. -GTW ** See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[scifinoir2] Re: SF Movies coming Up in 2008
In a message dated 12/30/07 11:04:39 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: indeed. Remember a year or so ago when there was talk of a US version of the British miniseries Ultraviolet? I cringed, just knowing what a blonde-obssessed, youth-loving, plot-averse US studio would do with that material. I remember that too. I think we both are glad it died in development hell. -GTW ** See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: McDuffie's BBS?
In a message dated 12/28/07 12:02:42 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How does one access McDuffie's BBS? http://thevhive.com/forum/index.php?webtag=DWAYNEMCDUFFIE --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, tetsuwanatom1 tetsuwan@ wrote: Anyone here participate? Some interesting discussion going down, like how much Torchwood sucks (truly does) or the anti John Stewart, pro Hal Jordan battle among fandom being about race. Actually the McDuffie BBS is one of the few message boards where you don't see any rabid Hal/John racial crap. Yeah a Hal fanatic shows up everyone once in a while to spread his BS. But is usually put down by the rest of the group. No you actually have some resonably intellengent discussion going on about that.When they are not concentraiting on other things. It's a pretty varried board. :) -GTW ** See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield
In a message dated 12/28/07 2:35:29 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: While Godzilla never scared me, I really liked them. Big confession, I liked the Godzilla with Matthew Broderick and Jean Reno. I knew it was bad, but I liked it. I think that was a hit. What about King Kong - specifically the remake, does that fit in this genre? How did it do? Hey You're not the only one that liked the American Godzilla. Infact I liked that movies version of the big-G more than the japanese version. To me that is what I pitcture it (yeah I know it was a she) looking like if someone paid a passing attention to biology. I just wanted to see more of big-g's radioactive breath in the american version (including the glowing back spikes). And I did liked both the basic plot, pacing and the Jenn Reno character. However it was the Broderick character and his crew (save for the camera guy) that I think took the film down (and some bad research of milspec equipment didn't help the film either). In short any successful big ass monster film threated the buy guy like a deadly, wrecklng ball force of nature. The japanese monster flims (well most of them) done this. The american Godizilla film almost did it (at least for the first half). And from what I've seen it's looking like Cloverfield is also going to do the same. -GTW ** See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield
In a message dated 12/28/07 11:24:43 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You are dead on with you analysis. The Broderick /camera crew aspect was weak and needed to be tweaked or reduced and Jean Reno... as Gymfig would say, he has IT I'm a big fan. His character should have been broadened. I realize that would never happen because this was an American Blockbuster and that would be breaking on of their cardinal rules. I liked this better than the old sixties Godzillas as well. Despite the fact that I complain about Abrams, I think he and the team he assembled could pull it off. However, if he succeeds, be forewarned. We will be bombarded with bad copies left and right I agree that the Jean Reno group should have been the main focus of the movie. But so should have been the military group if they wanted an american aspect for the american audiance to relate to. I just feel that the movie could have done without the Broderick/crew. And the thing that you mention about bad copies is what I'm affraid of if Cloverfield becomes a hit. To many bad rip offs is what nearly killed both the space opera and fantasy movie/TV series gendre. Especially since it's starting to pick up steam again. -GTW ** See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
