Re: ShopTalk: .335 and .370 Reamers?
Guys guys, i have never used a carbide drill or reamer on any golf club head, never !!that is what cutting oil is for and a drill press that go's down in speed that goes down to less than 250 RPM.I mean to tell you a drill press can ruin a drill/ reamer or a club head in nothing flat. and that is something you can take to the bank, now as far as me sanding down a shaft i just scrape the paint of of the tip of a graphite shaft and sand down a steel shaft until there is enough to allow the epoxy something to grab on to. Ed if you saw a drill/reamer that was sized down to a #63 i think that the size was .037 in size not the size of .370 my reasoning behind that is a #63 drill is quite small, I don't have a drill chart handy so I can not say just what size it is at this point in time. (,>]) RK On 8/20/07, Ed Reeder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Bernie, > Thanks for the link. I couldn't find what I wanted. > > I thought I found something when I saw a .370 reamer (Wire Gauge, Size > #63) until I saw that it's cutter was just 1/2 inch long and the > reamer's overall length was 1-1/2 inches. > > /Ed > > On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 17:04:30 -0400, "Bernie Baymiller" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > Ed, > > > > Is this what you're looking for? > > > > > http://www.msdiscount.com/columnar.aspx?cat_id=1081&session_id=689437114&category_site=STARTOOL > > > > Less cost than GS. > > > > Bernie > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Ed Reeder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "clubmaker online" > > Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 3:46 PM > > Subject: ShopTalk: .335 and .370 Reamers? > > > > > > > Does anyone have a good source for .335 and .370 HSS straight-flute > > > chucking reamers? Right now it looks like GS is the place, which is > hard > > > to believe. > > > > > > I've looked at MSC Direct and Wholesale Tool. MSC has the .370, but > is > > > more money than GS. WT has neither. > > > > > > Thx, > > > > > > /Ed > > > > > >
Re: ShopTalk: .335 and .370 Reamers?
Ed, I Never used .370 reamers, I always used .375 which is only.005 over the target size of .370. I have never had a problem either using that size. PLUS I KNOW THAT WHOLESALE TOOL HAS THE .375 IN STOCK. PLUS IF YOU CAN NOT FIND THE .370 IN A STRAIGHT FLUTE YOU COULD ALWAYS USE A LEFT HANDED FLUTE.OR IN THAT MATTER OU COULD ALWYS USE A RIGHT HAND FLUTE JUST REMEMBER TO USE A LOT OF CUTTING OIL WHEN EVER OU USE THE RIGHT HAND FLUTE RK On 8/20/07, Ed Reeder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Does anyone have a good source for .335 and .370 HSS straight-flute > chucking reamers? Right now it looks like GS is the place, which is > hard to believe. > > I've looked at MSC Direct and Wholesale Tool. MSC has the .370, but is > more money than GS. WT has neither. > > Thx, > > /Ed >
Re: ShopTalk: Re: Tournament Pairings Help
ED, Guy's What we would do is much the same as you guys did buy added a few other things like a skins game that we wold give only a haft stroke per hole on all of the handicapped holes.By a haft stroke I mean like to be fair for the low handicap players, like I used to play to a 7 hcp, so that it was more fairer to them we only allowe a haft stroke per hole to better allow the "Typical Sandbagger" to play to more of a true hcp. and to allow the lower hcp person a hjance to win a few skins. most of the time we would just pick a team from a deck of playing cards with all of the Kings playing together and all of the Queen's and Jack's etc; that way it "Truely was the luck of the draw, if that is what you are looking for. That way if lets say low hcp player got a birdie on lets say a par three and a higher hcper got a par with a stroke by us only allowing a haft stroke the higher hcp golfer 2.5 score on the par 3 and the lower hcp golfer got his full "0" stroke on the par 3 which would given him a 2 there by winning the skin. we found that with this system it allowed the lower hcp golfer a chance to win skins a wee bit better that he full hcp system/way of doing business. However we would allow the higher hcp golfer his full strokes in the regular game which ever we would play. But we always drew cards to pick teams.100%of the time. However some times we drew cards by how many clubs were playing in the tournament, like lets say that there where 4 different clubs playing in the tournament then we would say like the "Spades" would all come from say the host club and all of the Clubs would come from from lets say the club that held the last tournament and so on. Since we never had more then 52 golfers we never had any problems with running of cards., all prize monies were adjusted by the host club/ with all meals being put up by the host club and being paid for by them. now i am talking just about lunch's only "NO DINNERS" unless it was the invitational or as some of us true golfers would call it "THE BRING YOUR WALLET OPEN". THREE Days of COMPETION plus a practice round plus prize's all for just $350.00/team plus side bets, the year my partner and I won it we both came away well over $ 2500.00 in side bet money alone and that doesn't even count the prize from the main prize fund. in the 13 years that we played in the Invitational we were never out of the money "NEVER". Oh by the waywe ever played "CAPT IAN CHOICE" OR ANY TYPE OFA SCRAMBLE " NEVER IN A MILLIOM YEARS WOULD WE EVER ALLOW ANY TYPE OF A SCRAMBLE" RK Oh by the way I am ot bragging either when it came to us winning. On 8/7/07, Ed Reeder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Bernie, > VERY similar to what we do. We typically have four "Home and Home" > matches a year, total of eight rounds of golf for our "senior" group. > Like you, this is for about 20 golfers. We might have an one club that > is far enough out of town that we spend the night. On those occasions > we might have a "bonus" round the day before for those who want to come > up early. > > We get special rates and breakfast/lunch as well. Generally we get > their guest day rate, or lower. Sometimes the pot is taken from the > green fees, sometimes there is an additional buy-in. Never more than > $10. The "game" is up to the home club. Always there is a low team > score, but sometimes there are separate closest to the hole and skins > games. > > All in all it is a great way to play different courses and to meet some > wonderful people. > > /Ed > > Bernie Baymiller wrote: > > Ed, > > > > We had a "home and away" event with a local country club for a few > > years, about 20 players from each club, and handled it much like you > > are...2 low net. We had two players from our group and two players > > from their group in each foursome. Each player kicked in $10, I think, > > and we paid 3 places. What kept it fair was a knowledge captains from > > both clubs had of all players...who was playing good and bad, who was > > sandbagging of sorts, who played fast and slow, etc. The captains got > > together and made up teams based on handicaps and their knowledge of > > players. Each club threw a buffet lunch for the other at their home > > course (Nothing fancy...burgers, dogs, beans, potato salad, etc. and I > > recall their home baked cookies were great!). Greens fees (including > > cart and range balls to warm up) were a special rate $25 for the > > visitors. Lunch, golf and a lot of fun for $35...didn't even need to > > win to have a good day. Home players kicked in some bucks to cover > > visitors' lunches...think usually about $20. But, even with only $400 > > in the pot, it was always a somewhat spirited competition. > > > > Bernie > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > - Original Message - From: "Ed Reeder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Cc: "clubmaker online" > > Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 7:50 PM > > Subject: ShopTalk: Re: Tourname
Re: ShopTalk: ATTENTION ALL NEW E-MAIL ADDRESS
Tom, thanks for the input. i never knew plus my ISP is probabily doing the very samr thing I am presently getting over 100 + spam mailings per day right now so if you look at it from my point of view it just might be less mail.. RK On 5/30/07, TOM FLANAGAN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hey RK; If you think you had problems with spam before you signed up with google mail, wait 15 minutes. I signed on with gmail a few months ago. I never used it. Yet within a day or so I had close to 200 spam/junk/trash messages. I went through the process of cancelling the address with google's instructions. It didn't happen. My address is still "live". Last time I looked there were roughly 3000 junk mails! google's selling email addresses to their sponsors I guess. No matter though, I refuse to use it for myself. Not all "free" things are actually no charge. TFlan
Re: ShopTalk: Goldworks component
Personally I've always liked GolfWorks. I would rather purchase anything from them over GolfSmith. GW GOOD,, GS bad. RK KENNEDY golf equipment manufacturer's of world class golfclub repair equipment ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, February 13, 2004 12:56:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Goldworks component In a message dated 2/14/2004 10:06:01 AM Eastern Standard Time, astala vista <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> I so rarely reads comments here on Maltby Golfworks component that i am >asking why don't you talk about them Did you have bad experiences? Quality >problems? Prices? > >Thanks I've always had a good experience dealing with Golfworks and their components are first rate. I have also visited them and found them to be friendly and helpful. Frank > > > . Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling
Re: ShopTalk: Is this info still accurate?
Mark I just finished doing what it asked me too but then rhere was noway out so I just closed the post and now I see that NONE Of my info is there. What gives? RK KENNEDY golf equipment manufacturer's of world class golfclub repair equipment ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, February 12, 2004 6:57:51 PM To: ShopTalk Subject: ShopTalk: Is this info still accurate? ShopTalk, I'm updating my address book. Please take a moment to update your latest contact information. Your information is stored in my personal address book and will not be shared with anyone else. Plaxo is free, if you'd like to give it a try. Thanks,Mark A Patton Click the buttons below to change or confirm your info ShopTalk no title no companyno work address [EMAIL PROTECTED] no web pageIM: none work: none fax: none mobile: none pager: none Is this information correct? P.S. I've attached my current information in a vcard. If you get Plaxo too, we'll stay in touch automatically. If you do not wish to receive update request emails from Mark A Patton, click here to opt-out. Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling
ShopTalk: Shop Talk; Not Golf (Of Interest To Vets)
OK, Lets all clam down, I hate Jane Fonda as much as anybody else "BUT" trying to make connection between Sen. Kerry and her is really a stretch, and I mean a "STREACH". My brother served in WWII, Korea, China, and Vietnam plus Laos and hated Ms. Fonda as much as anybody but still respects Sen. Kerry. My brother retired from the service as a SGT. Major. And plus Kerry never deserted his post unless you want to count the 2 times he spent in the hospital while recovering from wounds he received in "BATTLE" not getting drunk and having daddy's big bucks and influence get me out of the war like little good olde boy George W. Which formed my impression of "HIM", boy I'll bet his father was "REAL" proud of him. Then there's his "LANDING" of that Jet plane on to the aircraft carrier. It is my understanding that it takes almost a full year to "LEARN" how to land a Jet Plane onto the flight deck for a PILOT. But Good Olde George W. did on his VERY FIRST Try. Give me a break. Then there's his offer of $250 million dollars to the Talband if it would just turn over Bin Launden, plus enough arm to fight off their foe's. If they would of taken good olde GW on his offer they would still be in power today killing woman and not allowing anybody to do just want they wanted. I'm a registered Republican but I'll be damned if I'm going to vote again to that war dodging pot smoking drunken liar who to date has killed, murdered, in one form or another 539 true American fighting men & women. WE, the voting public never signed on to "WAR" and the murder of our children to help line his and Chaney's pockets with money. I believe that he had this planned during his campaign to go to war with Iraq, both him and Chaney. Getting rich on the backs of our dead American Fighting men & women. SHAME ON YOU GW and SHAME ON US FOR ALLOWING YOU TO KILL OUR OWN CHILDREN. RK KENNEDY golf equipment manufacturer's of world class golfclub repair equipment ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, February 12, 2004 1:39:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ShopTalk: Not Golf (Of interest to Vets) Jents, I know there are a lot of vets on ShopTalk. I also know that most of us feel the same way about Jane Fonda's activities, and those of her compatriots, during the Vietnam War. The news today on CNN definitely formed my opinion of Kerry. You might want to check the photo out on CNN or the site below if you haven't already. http://www.washtimes.com/national/20040211-123002-8027r.htm I refused to retire while Clinton was in office. Nuff said! Cub MSG, USA(Ret.) Vietnam Era, Gulf War Era Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling RK KENNEDY golf equipment manufacturer's of world class golfclub repair equipment Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling
Re: ShopTalk: Not Golf (Of interest to Vets)
OK, Lets all clam down, I hate Jane Fonda as much as anybody else "BUT" trying to make connection between Sen. Kerry and her is really a stretch, and I mean a "STREACH". My brother served in WWII, Korea, China, and Vietnam plus Laos and hated Ms. Fonda as much as anybody but still respects Sen. Kerry. My brother retired from the service as a SGT. Major. And plus Kerry never deserted his post unless you want to count the 2 times he spent in the hospital while recovering from wounds he received in "BATTLE" not getting drunk and having daddy's big bucks and influence get me out of the war like little good olde boy George W. Which formed my impression of "HIM", boy I'll bet his father was "REAL" proud of him. Then there's his "LANDING" of that Jet plane on to the aircraft carrier. It is my understanding that it takes almost a full year to "LEARN" how to land a Jet Plane onto the flight deck for a PILOT. But Good Olde George W. did on his VERY FIRST Try. Give me a break. Then there's his offer of $250 million dollars to the Talband if it would just turn over Bin Launden, plus enough arm to fight off their foe's. If they would of taken good olde GW on his offer they would still be in power today killing woman and not allowing anybody to do just want they wanted. I'm a registered Republican but I'll be damned if I'm going to vote again to that war dodging pot smoking drunken liar who to date has killed, murdered, in one form or another 539 true American fighting men & women. WE, the voting public never signed on to "WAR" and the murder of our children to help line his and Chaney's pockets with money. I believe that he had this planned during his campaign to go to war with Iraq, both him and Chaney. Getting rich on the backs of our dead American Fighting men & women. SHAME ON YOU GW and SHAME ON US FOR ALLOWING YOU TO KILL OUR OWN CHILDREN. RK KENNEDY golf equipment manufacturer's of world class golfclub repair equipment ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, February 12, 2004 1:39:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ShopTalk: Not Golf (Of interest to Vets) Jents, I know there are a lot of vets on ShopTalk. I also know that most of us feel the same way about Jane Fonda's activities, and those of her compatriots, during the Vietnam War. The news today on CNN definitely formed my opinion of Kerry. You might want to check the photo out on CNN or the site below if you haven't already. http://www.washtimes.com/national/20040211-123002-8027r.htm I refused to retire while Clinton was in office. Nuff said! Cub MSG, USA(Ret.) Vietnam Era, Gulf War Era Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling
Re: ShopTalk: Not Golf (of interest to vets)
I'm sorry John but I never received your post until after i sent mine, Again i am truely sorry. RK KENNEDY golf equipment manufacturer's of world class golfclub repair equipment ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, February 12, 2004 11:04:47 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ShopTalk: Not Golf (of interest to vets) Although I love that shot of John F Kerry with Hanoi Jane, I'd like to ask a huge favor. I can see this topic spinning out of control and getting everyone all worked up. Can we keep it to golf stuff? -- Thanks! John Muir http://clubmaker-online.com http://gripscience.com 810.923.7396 . Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling
Re: ShopTalk: PGA show tidbits
David, Because of your "HUGH" order which of the three girls that are in the back seat of the 1970(s) Oldsmobile Cutlass Convertible do you get to bed?? RK KENNEDY golf equipment manufacturer's of world class golfclub repair equipment ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, February 02, 2004 2:13:11 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ShopTalk: PGA show tidbits Hi All,I just returned from the show and thought Id share some info.1st Id say that attendance was strong, anyone working a booth was slammed from open to close, that has to be a good barometer for those of us who earn our living from this industry.As far as launch monitors go most of the "good" ones seem to be in the $8,500.00 range, I believe KZG and Wishon can get you one of these for less, maybe around $5,500.00, the new Distance Caddy will be around $3,900.00.I don't know which is best, some use radar, others photography, shadow calibrations and such, if someone wants to research which method is best Id be happy to turn over all the contacts.As far as fitting info goes I was impressed with the new Tommy Armour putter fitting system and some features on their new putters.I spent some time with Todd Sones who is a Golf Digest top 50 teaching pro and the designer of their putter program and I believe he is on to something.For one thing he says that the "standard" length of 35" on a putter mearly was arrived at because it fits in most golf bags, but should probably be much shorter than your typical 35.5" wedge because not only do you hold it much closer to your body, but you also need to have your eyes over the ball, so it nessacarily needs to be shorter if you are to have the correct set up or balance while stroking it.I know that putters are more upright but,I agree.The reason for 3 or 4 degrees of loft on the putter is because the ball because of gravity sits down a bit in the grass, this helps get it rolling fine on a pure angle of attack but hurt's on a steep or shallow angle so he has a flat face at the center but has roll on the top and bottom.I agree.Like wise he has different weight heads based on length so you can get the same cg without having to sugar the shaft or putting lead tape on the head.Can't argue with that.I felt the best product line went to MacGregor, I have never carried finished goods as we don't sell anything we don't custom fit and build, but in 25 years of selling golf clubs I have never been as impressed as I was with their line, I actually gave them a huge order and will soon be carrying their stuff and will be proud to carry it.David Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling
Re: ShopTalk: No mail messages all day? Test, do not respond
WHAT Can not hear you, What did you want??? RK KENNEDY golf equipment manufacturer's of world class golfclub repair equipment ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 5:26:57 PM To: Shoptalk Subject: ShopTalk: No mail messages all day? Test, do not respond Don't know what's going on, but haven't had any mail all day. So this is a test to see if this one gets through. Bernie Writeto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling
Re: ShopTalk: Fwd: Fw: corked up
May I ask "JUST WHO ARE YOU"??? I keep getting messages from you that always require me to open them, which I never do because 1/ I don't know you & 2/ because of all of the virus's that are going around and all of your posts, 100% of them, require me to open them. RK KENNEDY golf equipment manufacturer's of world class golfclub repair equipment ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, January 25, 2004 11:45:58 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ShopTalk: Fwd: Fw: corked up May your ball fly long and true and always land where you want it too,"the clubmaker" Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling
ShopTalk: Re: [SpinetalkersForum] Its golf but personal
Congrads all around Tom, I have had 3 so far and most likely will stay that way unless by some miracle some brain doc comes up with a cure for CDC. I got my first one in 1976, second one in 1986 and my third one in 1996. So even if I can not play a full 18 holes in 2006 I'm going out there and at least try and get one even if I've got to use a driver on a 125 yard hole. RK KENNEDY golf equipment manufacturer's of world class golfclub repair equipment ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, January 22, 2004 9:38:50 PM To: ShopTalk; SpTalk Subject: [SpinetalkersForum] Its golf but personal HEY Y'ALL! I got an ace today!! Been playing this frustrating game for lo these 55 years and have had but one lucky shot up 'til today. Knocked one in the jar on our number nine, 155 yds, all carry, over a pond, into the hole on one hop. Yikes! A ONE! ZOWIE! Lookout JanFlan! TFlan BTW: It only cost me $300.00 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] LEGAL NOTICE This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and is protected by © law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message. Any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this message, or the taking of any action based on it, is strictly prohibited. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SpinetalkersForum/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ . Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling
Re: ShopTalk: Advice for a table
Ralph, what I did for my old work bench is take a solid door and use that as my top and a bathroom Vanity for the stand However for my new bench(s) I've taken 2x4x6' long, 18 of them and glued and screwed them together not laying flat but upright,like a meat block that's why I used 18 of them, For a base i went to Home Depot and got two of their cheap Husky brand rollaway tool stands. I put them on cement blocks instead of using the rollers but if you are really tight for room you could leave them on the rollers. Don Johnson has seen my layout so if you want just ask him what he thinks of my workbench. RK KENNEDY golf equipment manufacturer's of world class golfclub repair equipment ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, January 09, 2004 11:12:06 AM To: ShopTalk Subject: ShopTalk: Advice for a table I would like to begin doing more shaft removal. Up until now I have been only using one of those portable Workmate benches to secure my clubs for putting on grips and other minor tasks. I have very limited space to put any decent size table in my basement. My question is what size table should I at the very least have? Does it need to be weighted down? I want to purchase a RK puller but I would need to get a nice vice to secure to a table. Are there tables available in Lowes, Home Depot that would fit my bill for space, etc? Thanks! Ralph . Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling
Re: ShopTalk: Bill Owens
Jim, yes it is for sale thru John our host on ShopTalk. However if you wish to view a picture of it I'll have to send you one as JOhn has not yet updated his site to include the newest design level. John, please update your site the pictures on page 2 is of one of my oldest design levels, MKII. MY newest design level is a MKVIIa. PLEASE JOHN WITH SUGAR ON IT PLEASE UPDATE YOUR SITE. so that everybody can see my newest design level. RK KENNEDY golf equipment manufacturer's of world class golfclub repair equipment ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, January 09, 2004 9:15:24 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Bill Owens Jim: It's available thru my catalog at http://clubmaker-online.com .. Mention shoptalk on the orderform and I'll pay for shipping to lower 48. John Muir shoptalk Richard, is your new version of the shaft puller available for sale$$$ - Original Message - From: Richard Kennedy To: Spinetalkers Forum ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 6:45 PM Subject: ShopTalk: Bill Owens Would BIl Owens please contact me for info about your Puller status. [EMAIL PROTECTED] RK KENNEDY golf equipment manufacturer's of world class golfclub repair equipment Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling -- Thanks!John Muirhttp://clubmaker-online.comhttp://gripscience.com810.923.7396 Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling
ShopTalk: Bill Owens
Would BIl Owens please contact me for info about your Puller status. [EMAIL PROTECTED] RK KENNEDY golf equipment manufacturer's of world class golfclub repair equipment Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling
ShopTalk: A CHRISTMAS POEM
Here is a short X Mas poem. The Cremation of Sam McGeeThere are strange things done in the midnight sunBy the men who moil for gold;The Arctic trails have their secret talesThat would make your blood run cold;The Northern Lights have seen queer sights,But the queerest they ever did seeWas that night on the marge of Lake LebargeI cremated Sam McGee.Now Sam McGee was from Tennessee,Where the cotton blooms and blows.Why he left his home in the South to roam'Round the Pole, God only knows.He was always cold, but the land of gold Seemed to hold him like a spell;Though he'd often say in his homely wayThat he'd "sooner live in hell".On a Christmas Day we were mushing our way Over the Dawson trail.Talk of your cold! through the parka's foldIt stabbed like a driven nail.If our eyes we'd close, then the lashes froze Till sometimes we couldn't see;It wasn't much fun, but the only oneTo whimper was Sam McGee.And that very night, as we lay packed tightIn our robes beneath the snow,And the dogs were fed, and the stars o'erheadWere dancing heel and toe,He turned to me, and "Cap," says he,"I'll cash in this trip, I guess;And if I do, I'm asking that youWon't refuse my last request."Well, he seemed so low that I couldn't say no;Then he says with a sort of moan:"It's the cursed cold, and it's got right holdTill I'm chilled clean through to the bone.Yet 'tain't being dead -- it's my awful dreadOf the icy grave that pains;So I want you to swear that, foul or fair,You'll cremate my last remains."A pal's last need is a thing to heed,So I swore I would not fail;And we started on at the streak of dawn;But God! he looked ghastly pale.He crouched on the sleigh, and he raved all day Of his home in Tennessee;And before nightfall a corpse was allThat was left of Sam McGee.There wasn't a breath in that land of death,And I hurried, horror-driven,With a corpse half hid that I couldn't get rid,Because of a promise given;It was lashed to the sleigh, and it seemed to say:"You may tax your brawn and brains,But you promised true, and it's up to you To cremate those last remains."Now a promise made is a debt unpaid,And the trail has its own stern code.In the days to come, though my lips were dumb,In my heart how I cursed that load.In the long, long night, by the lone firelight,While the huskies, round in a ring,Howled out their woes to the homeless snows --O God! how I loathed the thing.And every day that quiet claySeemed to heavy and heavier grow;And on I went, though the dogs were spentAnd the grub was getting low;The trail was bad, and I felt half mad,But I swore I would not give in;And I'd often sing to the hateful thing, And it hearkened with a grin.Till I came to the marge of Lake Lebarge,And a derelict there lay;It was jammed in the ice, but I saw in a trice It was called the "Alice May".And I looked at it, and I thought a bit,And I looked at my frozen chum;Then "Here," said I, with a sudden cry, "Is my cre-ma-tor-eum."Some planks I tore from the cabin floor,And I lit the boiler fire;Some coal I found that was lying around,And I heaped the fuel higher;The flames just soared, and the furnace roared --Such a blaze you seldom see;And I burrowed a hole in the glowing coal,And I stuffed in Sam McGee.Then I made a hike, for I didn't likeTo hear him sizzle so;And the heavens scowled, and the huskies howled,And the wind began to blow.It was icy cold, but the hot sweat rolledDown my cheeks, and I don't know why;And the greasy smoke in an inky cloakWent streaking down the sky.I do not know how long in the snowI wrestled with grisly fear;But the stars came out and they danced aboutEre again I ventured near;I was sick with dread, but I bravely said:"I'll just take a peep inside.I guess he's cooked, and it's time I looked"; . . .Then the door I opened wide.And there sat Sam, looking cool and calm,In the heart of the furnace roar;And he wore a smile you could see a mile,And he said: "Please close that door.It's fine in here, but I greatly fear You'll let in the cold and storm --Since I left Plumtree, down in Tennessee,It's the first time I've been warm."There are strange things done in the midnight sunBy the men who moil for gold;The Arctic trails have their secret talesThat would make your blood run cold;The Northern Lights have seen queer sights,But the queerest they ever did seeWas that night on the marge of Lake LebargeI cremated Sam McGee. Apart from the guestbook, this site is now Bobby approved! This means that it is fully accessible to the disabled. Disclaimer: I am not responsible for, nor do I have any control over any extra coding placed on this page by Yahoo! GeoCities. Therefore, this extra coding may or may not be Bobby compliant. > MERRY CHRISTMAS RK KENNEDY golf equipment manufacturer's of world class golfclub repair equipment Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling
Re: ShopTalk: Mr. Kennedy
Jim, I would get the drill press from ENCO, for around $275.00, because it has a low speed of 215 rpm and a full 5 inchs of stroke. Now as to which reamers would "I" buy with my money, I'd get a Wholesale Tool Cat. and get a .335, .339, .343, .345, .354, for woods and .370, .373, .375, .377, .380 for irons and, .393, .357, .406, .410. If I couldn't get the exact sizes that I listed I would get the closest reamers to the size. One thing to remember is reamers can open up any hole by as much as .03125 or 1/32" of an inch with out any problems. I would get, if available, only straight or left handed fluted reamers. Lots better for a none machinist to use than a right handed reamer. With a RH reamer you will be pulling the chip out of the hole where as with a srtaight or LH reamers you will be pushing the chip down into the hole and since the CHIP will "NOT" be like a chip you would get from a drill, one long strand, it is a lots better way to go, if possible. Then to make sure that I'm getting the head clamped properly square to the hosel bore i would buy one of my Hosel Reaming Fixture(s) which is the only fixture on the market that is designed to clamp a Peerless or a Cobra clubhead. Just remember when your reaming out a hole it's, TWICE THE FEED AT HALF THE SPINDLE SPEED, that is required to drill a hole. so lets say you were going to drill a .375 hole in SS, the recommended spindle speed would be, in SS about 45 to 50 surface feet per minute or, a .375 drill has a surface of .1178 inchs. which converts into 382 rpm @ 45 SFPM,425 rpm @ 50 SFPM, with a feed rate of .006 per revolution. So when reaming out a hole your spindle speed would be 190 to 215 rpm with a feed rate of .012 to .018 per revolution Just remember when Drilling or Reaming SS "DO NOT ALLOW THE TOOL TO REMAIN IN ONE PLACE TO LONG. Because what will happen is the work surface, the material that you wish to remove wither it be a drill or a reamer, will become quite hard. Plus, this will happen a lot more times when your drill vs reaming, you must always watch out when drilling a hole not to allow the drill tip to "RIDE" on a chip. What I mean by this is when you are drilling a hole everytime you bring the drill out of the hole make sure that you blow out the hole of 100% of the chips. If you do not do this when working with SS your going to need someone with a Milling Machine to finish the job. That also is the reason for purchasing a Drill Press with a slower spindle speed. Fast Spindle Speed equals bad workmanship plus LOTS of money spent on having some one else finish the job. [EMAIL PROTECTED] RK KENNEDY golf equipment manufacturer's of world class golfclub repair equipment ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, December 19, 2003 9:59:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Mr. Kennedy I need some advice purchasing a drill press set up, my work shop is progressing nicely and it is time to get a drill press and all the things i will need for repairs and custom building. I need everything, reamers,clamps etc. what do you recommend for a good set up, my budget is around $1000.00. thanks - Jim Letourneau - Original Message - From: Richard Kennedy To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 10:24 AM Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Drill Bit Having not ever used a drill bit on "ANY" clubhead I wouldn't know how to help you. Now since a Ping head uses a tappered shaft tip I would first try the 5/16" - 18 tap then if that stilled failed I would start with a .354 reamer and work my way up to a .373 reamer. Never drill out a hole, drills are designed to "MAKE" holes not open them up, that's what reamers were designed for. RK KENNEDY golf equipment manufacturer's of world class golfclub repair equipment ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, December 18, 2003 10:03:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Drill Bit In a message dated 12/18/2003 7:37:53 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does anyone know of a source for a drill bit that will drill out a shaft which is broken inside the hosel of a Ping Eye 2 iron? Thanks, Jim McFerran Try using a 5/16" tap and some heat. Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling
RE: ShopTalk: Not Golf - Acceleration
Al, I think Kitty Hawk is in NC, "THAT'S NORTH GAROLINA" not SC "THAT'S SOUTH CAROLINA". were I now reside. RK KENNEDY golf equipment manufacturer's of world class golfclub repair equipment ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, December 18, 2003 1:36:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ShopTalk: Not Golf - Acceleration Tom, Another point I found very interesting was they hand carved the propellers and ended up at around 70% efficient, which is not far behind modern propellers. A point not mentioned was these guys were Ohioans from Dayton and merely went to SC because of the steady winds. The design and construction was Ohio but windy SC got the flight. Merry Christmas my friend and a healthy and prosperous new year. Al At 11:30 AM 12/18/2003, you wrote: >Jacques: >I tend to agree and was thinking about that last night when some of the >channels were showing related programs for the 100th anniversary of the >Wright's accomplishment. Like Jimmy Stewart playing Chas Lindburgh >flying for 38 hrs at 90mph with no autopilot or navigation and finding >Paris - or the really interesting one was the History Channel's show on >how the Wright Bros did what they did engineering wise on $1200 with no >college education and created a plane that flew vs Samuel Langley and >his team of formally trained engineers with their $70,000 in grants that >plopped off the top of a house boat into the Potomac! That one made me >feel pretty good as I thought about our R&D work vs the OEMS! HA!! > > >Happy Holidays!! >TOM > >-Original Message- >From: Jacques Intriere [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 10:37 AM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: ShopTalk: Not Golf - Acceleration > >Geez Tom, facts like that will make me drink even more on the plane. > >Thanks! >Jacques > >At 04:39 PM 12/17/2003 -0700, Tom Wishon wrote: > >JOHN: > > > >OK, I have always been fascinated by airplane technology so since you > >brought it up, I have to ask you - is it true that a 747 holds 47,000 > >gallons of fuel and do the wings actually "flex" 17 feet between >sitting > >on the ground and cruising at 585mph? Inquiring minds want to know!! > > > >TOM > > > >-Original Message- > >From: John Payne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 2:47 PM > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: RE: ShopTalk: Not Golf - Acceleration > > > >Ed > > > >Pretty interesting but I'm not sure if all if it is accurate. Being an > >airplane jockey the only thing I know about is the aircraft comparison. > >The > >"average" 747 engine produces about 36,000 horsepower and consumes >about > >.9 > >gallon a second during the takeoff which is it's highest time of > >consumption. Interesting stuff though. > > > >John > > > > > > > > . Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling
Re: ShopTalk: Not Golf - Flight
The French could never do it on their own, they ALWAYS Needed a replanted person form another country to do what it needed to be done. The French are built funny / backwards, They fight with their feet and make love with their face. RK KENNEDY golf equipment manufacturer's of world class golfclub repair equipment ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, December 18, 2003 5:08:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Not Golf - Flight In a message dated 12/18/03 3:12:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A Brasilian called albert Santos Dumont :) This is the "inventor" who flew in France successfully on Sept.16 1906, three years AFTER the Wright Brothers! This flight ended in a damage causing landing, The French still believe the Wright Brothers did not document their flight properly thus allowing their claim of being "first" in heavier than air winged flight."On the 23rd of October, Santos-Dumont flew from the field of Bagatelle, watched by a crowd and representatives of the Aero Club of France. By his own means of propulsion, the 14-bis rolled for 100 metres and took off, flying for 60 metres in 7 seconds, in a level flight a few metres above ground. Santos-Dumont won the 3,000 francs Prize Archdeacon, instituted in July 1906 by the American Ernest Archdeacon, to honour the first flyer to achieve a level flight of at least 25 metres." Hooray for a Brasilian who moved to France when he was 18 years old! Go get 'em France! Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling
Re: ShopTalk: Drill Bit
Having not ever used a drill bit on "ANY" clubhead I wouldn't know how to help you. Now since a Ping head uses a tappered shaft tip I would first try the 5/16" - 18 tap then if that stilled failed I would start with a .354 reamer and work my way up to a .373 reamer. Never drill out a hole, drills are designed to "MAKE" holes not open them up, that's what reamers were designed for. RK KENNEDY golf equipment manufacturer's of world class golfclub repair equipment ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, December 18, 2003 10:03:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Drill Bit In a message dated 12/18/2003 7:37:53 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does anyone know of a source for a drill bit that will drill out a shaft which is broken inside the hosel of a Ping Eye 2 iron? Thanks, Jim McFerran Try using a 5/16" tap and some heat. Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling
RE: ShopTalk: Not Golf - Acceleration
Hey Royce / guys. Jay Leno has a motorcycle with a helicopter turbo jet as it's motor, top speed, i really do not believe jay or anybody ever ran it this fast, is 276 MPH. Jay said that the only real problem is the turbo lag when going aroung corners. I guess at 85 MPH a 2 second delay can put you in the hospital. RK KENNEDY golf equipment manufacturer's of world class golfclub repair equipment ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 12:53:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ShopTalk: Not Golf - Acceleration I don't know how well they accelerated, but I remember that while I was in junior high school in the early 60s, Chrysler was doing some testing on a gas turbine powered sedan, and one of my neighbors was somehow selected for the test. Sounded like a jet engine coming down the street, but we never got a chance to see what it could really do... Royce . Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling
ShopTalk: Cleaning Up Your Hard Drive
I've been having a problem with popup's and spam so I went to my Road Runner P2P and they gave me this site to go to that helps you clean up your hard drive. www.doxdesk.com RK KENNEDY golf equipment manufacturer's of world class golfclub repair equipment Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling
Re: ShopTalk: Craftsman Drill Press Slow Speed Attachment
Grandpa, ig you have not solg the speed reducer yet please contact me by private e-mail as i just might be interested in buying it. If you have a pic please send along with your reply. TXS RK KENNEDY golf equipment manufacturer's of world class golfclub repair equipment ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 3:32:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ShopTalk: Craftsman Drill Press Slow Speed Attachment All My uncle has had some setbacks and can't work in shop any longer. He asked me to try and sell some of his tools. I was rummaging around and came across a Slow Speed Attachment (#924646) for Craftsman Drill Presses. It reduces speed to either 140 or 215 RPM. It doesn't have the instructions but it looks like it was never used and comes with 3 drive belts (2 spares). It looks like it attaches to a 2 3/4" post with a set screw and has a 2 speed pulley. The belt apparently goes to the drill head. (I'm only guessing - I assume anyone with one of these drill presses can figure it out). He'd like $15 for it (plus shipping). If your interested, I can send you pictures and the model numbers of the drill presses it works on. Email me direct: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks. Bob Sielski . Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling
Re: ShopTalk: Saving ferrules
Hey Steve, us REAL men it don't bother us that much. LOL RK KENNEDY golf equipment manufacturer's of world class golfclub repair equipment ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, November 16, 2003 10:56:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Saving ferrules With acetone? Yikes ... :-) Steve Steve Fritz ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] > MY DINGALING stupid > > RK > > KENNEDY > golf equipment > manufacturer's of world class golfclub repair equipment > ---Original Message--- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Sunday, November 16, 2003 1:20:25 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Saving ferrules > > You wipe what down every time you use it? > > > Al > > > At 01:07 AM 11/16/2003, you wrote: > > hey fellows to keep it from sliping clean it off, often, with Aceitone. > I > wipe mine down everytime i use it > > RK > > KENNEDY > golf equipment > manufacturer's of world class golfclub repair equipment > ---Original Message--- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Saturday, November 15, 2003 10:53:16 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Saving ferrules > Baby Boa Constrictor Strap > Wrench > > I think they're on sale in the retail locations, too. Seems I also saw a > smaller one that might be better suited to popping ferrules. > > At 09:15 PM 11/15/2003, you wrote: >>http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=40198 > > BTW, does anyone else find it strange that the woman in the picture is > using the strap wrench to *tighten* that big ol' jar lid? > > Burgess > > .. > Kennedy > golf-equipment > manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling > > . Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling
Re: ShopTalk: Saving ferrules
MY DINGALING stupid RK KENNEDY golf equipment manufacturer's of world class golfclub repair equipment ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, November 16, 2003 1:20:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Saving ferrules You wipe what down every time you use it?AlAt 01:07 AM 11/16/2003, you wrote: hey fellows to keep it from sliping clean it off, often, with Aceitone. I wipe mine down everytime i use it RK KENNEDY golf equipmentmanufacturer's of world class golfclub repair equipment---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: Saturday, November 15, 2003 10:53:16 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Saving ferrules > Baby Boa Constrictor Strap Wrench I think they're on sale in the retail locations, too. Seems I also saw asmaller one that might be better suited to popping ferrules. At 09:15 PM 11/15/2003, you wrote:>http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=40198 BTW, does anyone else find it strange that the woman in the picture isusing the strap wrench to *tighten* that big ol' jar lid? Burgess ..Kennedy golf-equipmentmanufacturer's of world class club repair tooling Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling
Re: ShopTalk: Saving ferrules > Baby Boa Constrictor Strap Wrench
hey fellows to keep it from sliping clean it off, often, with Aceitone. I wipe mine down everytime i use it RK KENNEDY golf equipment manufacturer's of world class golfclub repair equipment ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, November 15, 2003 10:53:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Saving ferrules > Baby Boa Constrictor Strap Wrench I think they're on sale in the retail locations, too. Seems I also saw a smaller one that might be better suited to popping ferrules. At 09:15 PM 11/15/2003, you wrote: >http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=40198 BTW, does anyone else find it strange that the woman in the picture is using the strap wrench to *tighten* that big ol' jar lid? Burgess . Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling
ShopTalk: Not Golf, Bush
READ THE ENTIRE THING This was an actual obituary published in The Times-Picayune, New Orleans on 10/2/2003. Word has been received that Gertrude M. Jones, 81, passed away on August 25, 2003, under the loving care of the nursing aides of Heritage Manor of Mandeville, Louisiana. She was a native of Lebanon, KY. She was a retired Vice President of Georgia International Life Insurance Company of Atlanta, GA. Her husband, Warren K. Jones predeceased her. Two daughters survive her: Dawn Hunt and her boyfriend, Roland, Of Mandeville,LA; and Melba Kovalak and her husband, Drew Kovalak, of Woodbury, MN. Three sisters, four grandchildren and three great grandchildren, also survive her. Funeral services were held in Louisville, KY. Memorial gifts may be made to any organization that seeks the removal of the Court Appointed President George Bush from office. RK KENNEDY golf equipment manufacturer's of world class golfclub repair equipment Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling
Re: ShopTalk: reaming bc wedges
As long as you still have ten fingers then it was a good job, I really do not care if the hosel bores came out ok or not that is strictly between you and your customer. I know that may sound a small bit "UNNICE" but the way I feel about it is as long as you are not in the hospital getting stitches then what else could be wrong , you can always buy or rework any club head but the finger put back on machine is just a little costly. RK KENNEDY golf equipment manufacturer's of world class golfclub repair equipment ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, October 30, 2003 1:46:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ShopTalk: reaming bc wedges In a message dated 10/29/2003 2:09:58 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Subj: Re: ShopTalk: reaming bc wedges Date: 10/29/2003 2:09:58 PM Pacific Standard TimeFrom: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent from the Internet When I ream B?C I "ALWAYS" run the drill at around 150 RPM< nothing faster ao you'll end up with a very nice looking desk item as like you said "IT"S GOING TO "WELD" the two items together. Someone said WD40 which is a very good thing to use to prevent rust but very unusefull if you use it as a cuttilg oil or coolant. I know that HOME DEPOT has RIDIGE thread cutting oil which is "I THINK" has sulfuer. in it. RK KENNEDY golf equipmentmanufacturer's of world class golfclub repair equipment---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 1:27:44 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: ShopTalk: reaming bc wedges You should take note of this also.http://www.busbymetals.com/docs/mach_page19.htmAlAt 11:03 PM 10/27/2003, you wrote:In a message dated 10/27/2003 10:46:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:Hi All,I have a lot of beryllium copper wedges that need to be reamed to . 370 and am having difficulty because of the heat the reamer wants to stick in the head, I have tried using a cutting oil but it doesn't really seem to help and its so thick that it is hard to clean out with acetone afterwards, I would prefer to not use oil at all to save the cleaning step.I tried my . 370 drill bits but found that they were actually . 364 and the shafts are . 368.I also have a lot of steel wedges, but they don't seem to be a problem, I think the beryllium is somehow wanting to meld with the reamer as it heats up.Any suggestions would be appreciated.Thanks,David http://www.busbymetals.com/docs/mach_page11.htm Kennedy golf-equipmentmanufacturer's of world class club repair tooling Hi RK,Thanks for your response,I tried a smalish .364 head earlier tonight and 1st hit it with a .368 reamer and then finished it with a .3701 bit with no lube with a hand drill and used a Mitchell portable mount for the head, under a controlled rpm and feed rate, sorry but I don't have a press and it seemed to work fine, a hell of a lot better than just trying a .370 reamer and wailing away by hand.David Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling
ShopTalk: Piece of My Mind
Just got home from my testing at Emory Clinic in Atlanta Ga and have very good news and very very bad news. First the good news. It is now official I do not nor have i every had Parkinson's Disease. The bad news is the real reason I'm unable to walk and fart at the same time. my latest MRI showed that my brain,my Cerebellum to be exact is shrining. How much and how fast is not been determent as of yet. But it is getting smaller more quickly then what is normal for my age ,65 years old. RK KENNEDY golf equipment manufacturer's of world class golfclub repair equipment Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling
Re: ShopTalk: reaming bc wedges
When I ream B?C I "ALWAYS" run the drill at around 150 RPM< nothing faster ao you'll end up with a very nice looking desk item as like you said "IT"S GOING TO "WELD" the two items together. Someone said WD40 which is a very good thing to use to prevent rust but very unusefull if you use it as a cuttilg oil or coolant. I know that HOME DEPOT has RIDIGE thread cutting oil which is "I THINK" has sulfuer. in it. RK KENNEDY golf equipment manufacturer's of world class golfclub repair equipment ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 1:27:44 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ShopTalk: reaming bc wedges You should take note of this also.http://www.busbymetals.com/docs/mach_page19.htmAlAt 11:03 PM 10/27/2003, you wrote: In a message dated 10/27/2003 10:46:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi All, I have a lot of beryllium copper wedges that need to be reamed to . 370 and am having difficulty because of the heat the reamer wants to stick in the head, I have tried using a cutting oil but it doesn't really seem to help and its so thick that it is hard to clean out with acetone afterwards, I would prefer to not use oil at all to save the cleaning step. I tried my . 370 drill bits but found that they were actually . 364 and the shafts are . 368. I also have a lot of steel wedges, but they don't seem to be a problem, I think the beryllium is somehow wanting to meld with the reamer as it heats up. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks, David http://www.busbymetals.com/docs/mach_page11.htm Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling
ShopTalk: Reamer info For Mako
Mako, I'm sorry but I lost your address and this is the only way I can relay this info to you. .355 1177-0365 .377 .339 1154-1770 or 1177-0320 .341 .343 1154-1857 .371 1154-8305 .373 1154-2010 .375 1177-0632 .377 1154 or it could be 1177-2040 .379 .1154-2050 You were right they do not have as many decimal reamers as they used to carry plus like you I never saw any LH spiral's. If I were you I'd also check out MSC as to their reamer selection. The damned "BIG BLUE BOOK" is really "BIG" and heavy. lots heavier that I now can lift and carry. RK KENNEDY golf equipment manufacturer's of world class golfclub repair equipment Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling
RE: ShopTalk: Cheap drill press for shop
Jack / All, the main reason that I like the 5" spindle stroke is because with it there is no job that I can not do. Like I was saying in my post if you are reaming out a Titlest 975 that has a 4.5" hosel bore you're going to need to stop the drill press with the reamer at the bottom of it's stroke approx. 3" into the hosel bore, 3" travel plus .5" of clearance, unclamp the drill table and crank the table up appox. 3" to almost the bottom of the reamed hole, then restart up the drill press with out the reamer grabbing, remember the RH spiral fluting vs straight fluting, If you are doing this with the drill fixture bolted down then when you crank up the table you had better make sure that your aligned properly because if you aren't then you're going to end up with an over sized hosel bore for approx. 3" then the bore is going to take a slight twist so as when you try and remove the reamer it's really going to bind up on you and that is just about the time that you're going to loosen up on your table clamps and the next thing you know is that you're waking up in the emergency room wondering just what went wrong. Plus you also have got to remember that I use my drill press for other things like build the best damned graphite shaft puller on sale in the market place today. My newest design is the "ONLY" puller in the market that takes into account the tapper, that is now more then before, noticeable on butt trimmed only graphite shafts. It is because of the butt trim only that the parallel section is less then it's ever been. RK KENNEDY golf equipment manufacturer's of world class golfclub repair equipment ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, October 24, 2003 8:56:09 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ShopTalk: Cheap drill press for shop RK- A question - why is a 5" stroke important to you? Most of the drill presses I see at Lowes only have a 3+" stroke and that would seem to be enough to ream out hosels and drill out broken shafts. A few words from the Master Machinest would be helpful. Thanks, Jack -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Richard KennedySent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 8:03 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Cheap drill press for shop Me I'm never cruel. I bought my Drill Press from ENCO but right this minute I do not have their Cat. handy so I can't give you the model number, but it's the only drill press that they handle that has the proper speed and a 5" spindle stroke, which is very important to me and my vast amount of different operations that I would be using it for. Since I purchased mine approx. 2 years ago for $243.00, I now think that the spindle speed was 210 RPM but I purchased a fan motor from TEK Industries that had a top RPM of only 850 RPM/ After I installed the new motor I had just the drill press that I wanted, low RPM of 105, with a 5" stroke. I found a lot of drill presses that had a slow low speed of 140 RPM but only had a 3 .5" stroke and since there was really nothing wrong with the operation of my old drill press "BUT" I had Marion's OK to get the new machine I really went after the one with the 5" stroke. Oh yeah another I just received a flyer from ENCO a few months ago the price was the same but not they are offering free S&H. And another thing when you get it YOU will have to put it together and I mean OUT IT TOGETHER. RK KENNEDY golf equipment manufacturer's of world class golfclub repair equipment ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 12:39:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Cheap drill press for shop are you going to make us beg to find out which model you have (and where you bought it)? Please don't be so cruel. :-) John shoptalk My "NEW" Drill Press has a low end of 140 rpm and a 5" stroke, paid $275.00 for it. If it lats as long as my first Drill Press, over 25 years, it will be a bargain, somewheres around $12.00 a year or $1.00 per month. Or i could of sold my old unit for around $100.00 making my new unit costs at just around less than $200.00. My question is this , why buy a cheap drill press when your buying it for the long run. Lets just say that you bought the cheap one, resale value $000.00, it is going to reflect in your workmanship, cheap in crap out, and you are going to lose your customers because of your workmanship. With a stroke of less than 3" means that to ream out a 975 your going to have to move the drill table twice just to be able to get 100% claen up. My advice is to scrap the idea of the cheap one and go with the better machine. RK KENNEDY golf equipment manufacturer's of world class golfclub repair equipment ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, October 19, 2003 2:42:35 PM To: clubmaker online Subject: ShopTalk: Cheap drill
Re: ShopTalk: Cheap drill press for shop
Me I'm never cruel. I bought my Drill Press from ENCO but right this minute I do not have their Cat. handy so I can't give you the model number, but it's the only drill press that they handle that has the proper speed and a 5" spindle stroke, which is very important to me and my vast amount of different operations that I would be using it for. Since I purchased mine approx. 2 years ago for $243.00, I now think that the spindle speed was 210 RPM but I purchased a fan motor from TEK Industries that had a top RPM of only 850 RPM/ After I installed the new motor I had just the drill press that I wanted, low RPM of 105, with a 5" stroke. I found a lot of drill presses that had a slow low speed of 140 RPM but only had a 3 .5" stroke and since there was really nothing wrong with the operation of my old drill press "BUT" I had Marion's OK to get the new machine I really went after the one with the 5" stroke. Oh yeah another I just received a flyer from ENCO a few months ago the price was the same but not they are offering free S&H. And another thing when you get it YOU will have to put it together and I mean OUT IT TOGETHER. RK KENNEDY golf equipment manufacturer's of world class golfclub repair equipment ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 12:39:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Cheap drill press for shop are you going to make us beg to find out which model you have (and where you bought it)? Please don't be so cruel. :-) John shoptalk My "NEW" Drill Press has a low end of 140 rpm and a 5" stroke, paid $275.00 for it. If it lats as long as my first Drill Press, over 25 years, it will be a bargain, somewheres around $12.00 a year or $1.00 per month. Or i could of sold my old unit for around $100.00 making my new unit costs at just around less than $200.00. My question is this , why buy a cheap drill press when your buying it for the long run. Lets just say that you bought the cheap one, resale value $000.00, it is going to reflect in your workmanship, cheap in crap out, and you are going to lose your customers because of your workmanship. With a stroke of less than 3" means that to ream out a 975 your going to have to move the drill table twice just to be able to get 100% claen up. My advice is to scrap the idea of the cheap one and go with the better machine. RK KENNEDY golf equipment manufacturer's of world class golfclub repair equipment ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, October 19, 2003 2:42:35 PM To: clubmaker online Subject: ShopTalk: Cheap drill press for shop RK can double check this, but this appears to be a good candidate for occassional clubmaking machine work: http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=44836 12 speeds (250, 340, 510, ... 3600 rpm) 1/2 hp; 3.5 amp 2 3/3" spindle stroke; 10" swing US$99.99 plus shipping and handling $8.99 I found some other bench tops that were as low as 140 rpm, but were roughly $180 + $55 shipping. /Ed . Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling -- Thanks!John Muirhttp://clubmaker-online.comhttp://gripscience.comhttp://tourpure.com810.923.7396 Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling
ShopTalk: Mako Please contact me
Mako please contact me as to you request. RK KENNEDY golf equipment manufacturer's of world class golfclub repair equipment Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling
Re: ShopTalk: Cheap drill press for shop
My "NEW" Drill Press has a low end of 140 rpm and a 5" stroke, paid $275.00 for it. If it lats as long as my first Drill Press, over 25 years, it will be a bargain, somewheres around $12.00 a year or $1.00 per month. Or i could of sold my old unit for around $100.00 making my new unit costs at just around less than $200.00. My question is this , why buy a cheap drill press when your buying it for the long run. Lets just say that you bought the cheap one, resale value $000.00, it is going to reflect in your workmanship, cheap in crap out, and you are going to lose your customers because of your workmanship. With a stroke of less than 3" means that to ream out a 975 your going to have to move the drill table twice just to be able to get 100% claen up. My advice is to scrap the idea of the cheap one and go with the better machine. RK KENNEDY golf equipment manufacturer's of world class golfclub repair equipment ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, October 19, 2003 2:42:35 PM To: clubmaker online Subject: ShopTalk: Cheap drill press for shop RK can double check this, but this appears to be a good candidate for occassional clubmaking machine work: http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=44836 12 speeds (250, 340, 510, ... 3600 rpm) 1/2 hp; 3.5 amp 2 3/3" spindle stroke; 10" swing US$99.99 plus shipping and handling $8.99 I found some other bench tops that were as low as 140 rpm, but were roughly $180 + $55 shipping. /Ed . Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling
RE: ShopTalk: Cheap drill press for shop
ED, All, It looks OK but I wouldn't buy it for club making reason's, 1/ 200 RPM is the highest slow speed that I would ever buy, again remember you can always go faster but it's hell to try and go slower and 2/ The 2 2/3 spindle stroke will never work on a lot of todays hosel's. My old Drill Press, which I used for approx. 25 years had a 3 3/4 stroke and there were times that I would have to unclamp the table and raise the table to finish the job. Mako, I haven't forgotten your request for the Reamer info , i will get it to you today promise. RK KENNEDY golf equipment manufacturer's of world class golfclub repair equipment ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, October 20, 2003 9:41:59 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: ShopTalk: Cheap drill press for shop I bought one of these earlier this year. It is okay but I've had a couple of problems. The major problem was that the casting of the interior of the table support "carriage" that fits over the column and rack was so bad that the helical and worm gears that allow the height of the table to be adjusted via the rack wouldn't fit properly. I can still use the drill press but I have to slide the table up and down the column by hand. This makes precise positioning very difficult. I called Harbor Freight and told them about the problem. They assured me a replacement part would arrive in about 8 to 12 weeks. That was 8 months ago. The other problem is slippage of the V-belts. I can't seem to get enough tension on them to stop them from slipping momentarily. I'm going to replace the belts with link belts... http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.asp?SID=&ccurrency=2&page=30051&category= 1,240,41067 -Original Message- From: Ed Reeder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: October 19, 2003 2:26 PM To: clubmaker online Subject: ShopTalk: Cheap drill press for shop RK can double check this, but this appears to be a good candidate for occassional clubmaking machine work: http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=44836 12 speeds (250, 340, 510, ... 3600 rpm) 1/2 hp; 3.5 amp 2 3/3" spindle stroke; 10" swing US$99.99 plus shipping and handling $8.99 I found some other bench tops that were as low as 140 rpm, but were roughly $180 + $55 shipping. /Ed . Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling
RE: ShopTalk: Top Clubmakers / GD / Dr. Loft
HANDSOME DOG Tom have you ever met Al T If my dog looked as bad as Mr. Taylor does I'd shave his butt and teach him how to walk backwards. Hi Al how are you feeling now a adays You old Phart RK KENNEDY golf equipment manufacturer's of world class golfclub repair equipment ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 6:58:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ShopTalk: Top Clubmakers / GD / Dr. Loft Al: Good points for sure but most all of the readers of GD believe that the custom clubs used by the guys on tour all come from the OEMS and know very little if anything about real clubmakers like you and everyone else here. And the worst part of it is that because they are aware of the tour players using custom shafts, or this or that, the regular golfers tend to believe that custom clubs are only for better golfers. So the education process really needs to almost start all over again. But you have a good idea about putting your picture in front of 1.5 million readers because that would really go a long way . . . uh, a long way. . . uh, ah heck, it would go a long way toward making you the pre-eminent fitter for the ladies, you handsome dog you!! TOM -Original Message-From: Al Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 12:47 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: ShopTalk: Top Clubmakers / GD / Dr. Loft Hey there TOM W,Listing top club makers / fitters would be superb. I could list all my club champ customers etc. Maybe my pic too??Seriously, you know maybe crawling before walking might be a good approach. What about some articles on the hardware these pro golfers use? Maybe some comments on their various lofts and lies and grinds. A mention or two on their putter and driver lengths. What do these comments all have in common? Custom Clubs. How do they get them? Club makers. Who helps make the custom choices? Club fitters. You could sneak in the side door by mentioning the customized stuff and voila (that is French for gadzooks), you then have to mention these masters of trickery, at some point.AlAt 02:32 PM 10/15/2003, you wrote: Harry and Bernie:You guys are both aware that any magazine, regardless of its subject area is somewhat to sort of to very much handcuffed by its advertisers. In the magazine business there is an old adage that is often tossed around that goes, does advertising breed editorial, or does editorial breed advertising. And the only industry in which I have seen magazines basically stick their noses up to their advertisers are some of the computer magazines, when I have seen reviews of computers or peripherals or software that make negative comments once in a while. I can tell you that over the years in my career going back to the 80s I have written as a guest or regular contributor for Golf World, Golfweek, Golf Shop Operations, GOLF, Golf Digest, Golf Illustrated and others. In every case except for Golf Digest, I have been either kicked out or told to tone it down, when something I wrote about the truth of golf equipment incurred the wrath of an advertiser. The funniest one I remember was when I wrote an article on forgings for Golf World long before the Golf Digest people bought the magazine. Something in the article upset the then president of Ben Hogan company and I was asked to fly down to Ft Worth where Hogan used to be HQd, to explain my piece to the president and their officers. The meeting started with the president literally throwing the issue at me that had my article in it, using what I considered to be a very childish manner of letting me know what he thought about my writing. Well, I got up to walk out because I dont ever need to have to deal with people like that, but then he cooled down. Net result is that there are a lot of people in the industry who believe that their ad dollars bring with it a right to tell a magazine what to write, and whether the magazine listens or not is simply a matter of how much they need the ad dollars. In Golf Digests case, I have worked with them for now nine years, much in the capacity of what you, Bernie, mentioned about your fathers role. Their equipment editors will call me for ideas, or run statements made by this or that golf equipment company by me to see what is fact or fiction, or ask me to write articles once in a while when their editors do not feel they want to or are qualified to do. Each of the three equipment editors I have served under in the past 9 yrs with GD have been superb guys who desperately want to write the facts about equipment. But they too have some handcuffs on in terms of putting pictures or comments of clubs in there that are a balance between those made by their bigger advertisers and some from companies who dont advertise as much. I think from what I have seen, they do that in a decent balance. And they usually go to the OEMs for quotesbecause they believe that
Re: ShopTalk: Golf Digest Higher loft articles
Ton I think that they call that a French Air Raid Shelter Bend over put your head between your legs and kiss your ass good bye. RK KENNEDY golf equipment manufacturer's of world class golfclub repair equipment ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 6:11:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Golf Digest Higher loft articles "Kiss your shank goodbye"Yeah sure! I recall an ad for "Preparation H". It said "Use 'Preparation H' and kiss your hemorrhoids goodbye." Not even if I could! TFlan Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling
ShopTalk: Other not GOLF
A man goes before a Calif. Judge and says "I would like to have my name changed. The Judge then asked the man what would you like to change to??? The man replied to Arnold Svhwarzenegger.. The Judge then inquired "Why that name my god man what would cause you to change you name to that. What is your present name Richard Whiskey the man replied. But Why the Judge asked again from Richard Whiskey to Arnold Svhwarzenegger., It's not the name that gets to me answered the man it's the nickname that pisses me off, The Judge then asks "Just what is your nickname" The man replies Well Judge it's Dick Liquor RK KENNEDY golf equipment manufacturer's of world class golfclub repair equipment Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling
Re: ShopTalk: ShopTalk Reaner style
No Miko I'm just running a bit late on just about everything plus one other thing happened in the course of getting rid of some SPYWARE that had attacked my machine, I think that is how Lloyd got through, Now I'm not saying he was the one which caused it I had trouble with it long before Lloyd ever came back into my life, But what happened was I just plain old lost your request. So if you would be kind enough to restate your need I'll "TRY" and get to the info you requested. Thanks for reminding me but as to being on anybodies S**T list there are only two people that presently hold that honor, Lloyd and Dave T. They are the only two that I presentlly there mainly because "I" most of the time find them full of themselves.
RK
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Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 1:15:26 PM
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Subject: Re: ShopTalk: ShopTalk Reaner style
Hey Richard,
A few days back I asked about WT part numbers for
suggested/recommended reamers ...
I didn't see a reply.
Did I miss something, or
am I on the "Sh*t-list", too. :{)
miko
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Kennedy
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ShopTalk: ShopTalk Reaner style
John, all, I've been busy fixing a design change that I had tested my normal 1000 times but I forgot one test and it turned out to be a very bad idea so I guess i'm going to have steel to eat for a while, luck for me a good friend found it for me so all is not lost. I'll bet your all sitting scratching your heads and asking your monitor screens"What the hell has that got to do with reamers. Of course nothing but I'm just trying to give John and another Clubmaker an answer as to just why I haven't gotten around to answering their questions. For clubmaking I like to stay away from right hand fluting and go for left handed fluting, if I can not get left handed fluting then my second choice is straight flutes. My reasoning is this 1/ Nobody in this form uses a reamer more than I do unless your a Tool & Die Maker, so my reasoning here is if it's going to scare the shit out of me using one w/out firnly bolting my fixture to the drill table I can just imaging what it's going to do to any one of you when it grabs and you are most likely holding it fairly loose and it gets away from your grasp. 2/ If you use a left hand or a straight fluted reamer the chances of this happening are slim , very slim. 3/ Most tool shops do not really like the left handed reamers, they throw the chip ahead of the reamer and some times the hole comes out just a shade larger then wanted and since 85% of the time the work that is being done is clamped down either to the drill or milling machine table why then even go there. 4/ So most of the time if a tool supply house does have them, in the odd sizes that we use they sell them at a RK KENNEDY golf equipment manufacturer's of world class golfclub repair equipment ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, October 09, 2003 5:08:08 PM To: ShopTalk Subject: ShopTalk: Reamer style Another question for RK: I read the collection of messages about drill bits and reamers from RK from a link on clubmaker online, and took away some really good reference information. What is the correct style of reamer to use for cleaning or enlarging hosels - the style you would order from a supply house. John B . Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling RK KENNEDY golf equipment manufacturer's of world class golfclub repair equipment Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling
ShopTalk: Re; ShopTalk Residual Bend N PLane - Steel Shafts
Arnie, ME NOT LIKE SOME ONE< NEVER HAPPEN, but there are certain animals out there that just need to be kicked ever once in awhile. RK KENNEDY golf equipment manufacturer's of world class golfclub repair equipment ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, October 13, 2003 7:51:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Residual Bend N plane - Steel Shafts In a message dated 10/13/03 7:25:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ALL, the easiest way to check out on just how much carbon is in the steel, grind some of it on your bench grinder. If the sparkles are a lot and stay near the grinding wheel it has a very high carbon, but if the sparkles are quite a bit away form the grinding wheel or no sparks are noticeable then you have a very low carbon steel. The more sparks close to the source = high carbon, the more there is and or just how far they go into the air, where as the least amount of sparks that there is and how far away they were from the source = low carbonYa learn something new every day! Thanks. Good thing I read the entire post 'cause I gathered that you don't like someone! Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling RK KENNEDY golf equipment manufacturer's of world class golfclub repair equipment Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling
RE: ShopTalk: Residual Bend N plane - Steel Shafts
RK Lloyd, I do not know how I got this post from you as I have you an my ignore list but I have and can safely say that after a full year of not reading your crap that you are still full of crap. Since it's called "LOW CARBON", 1008 to 1010, means that it does not contain very much carbon, about 8 to no more than 10% but high carbon refers to any and all steels with at least 35% carbon . And since shafting steel is a very high carbon appox 40%, plus it also contains more alloy than the lower carbon, making a high alloy low carbon is like dating your sister, and you SHOULD know how that feels Lloyd. Hence the shafting steel has a number of 4140, high allow high carbon flame hardable which is one of the main reasons that you see the chrome peel on older steel shafts, very hard to get chrome to adhere to harden steel w/out a copper base. AND since steel shafts are flame hardened that sure WILL change the modulus of the two. Lloyd if your going to make statements at the very least you can do is GET YOUR INFOMATION RIGHT. Now I must go into my computer and find out just how your post got past my message rules. SO far so good as to Dr. David T. still nothing directly to me from him ALL, the easiest way to check out on just how much carbon is in the steel, grind some of it on your bench grinder. If the sparkles are a lot and stay near the grinding wheel it has a very high carbon, but if the sparkles are quite a bit away form the grinding wheel or no sparks are noticeable then you have a very low carbon steel. The more sparks close to the source = high carbon, the more there is and or just how far they go into the air, were as the least amount of sparks that there is and how far away they were from the source = low carbon. I used to have a guy that worked for me that could tell you w/in 5% just how much carbon plus how much alloy was present in the material. KENNEDY golf equipment manufacturer's of world class golfclub repair equipment ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, October 13, 2003 2:48:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ShopTalk: Residual Bend N plane - Steel Shafts The modulus of elasticity for the low carbon steel and higher carbon steel is basically the same. It is the yield stress that is significantly different and would have no affect on frequency differences. The only thing left is out of round and a material thickness difference at the weld that would affect frequency at different positions around the shaft. llhack - Original Message - From: Richard Kennedy To: [EMAIL PROTECTED];[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10/13/03 9:34:11 AM Subject: RE: ShopTalk: Residual Bend N plane - Steel Shafts Tom / All, As being a retired Manufacturing Engineer from Ford Motor and having seen the "BUTT" welding process that you are talking about I would like to add my $0.02 worth into the mix. Yes as you have stated that during the "BUTT" welding process there is no way that any foreign particle (s) can get into the mix so to say, being that it is preformed in a positive atmosphere chamber, low OX. However although nothing can be added into the mix a very important item is reduced during the process, which can not be reintroduced back into the steel "CARBON". As to it's bending and having "HARD" areas it was explained to me by the Bunding Tubing ME's, which by the way supplied several shaft companies, not TT however, their predrawn material in 20' lengths, is what causes the tubing to be soft in the area of the "BUTT" weld and for approx. 15% to either side of the welded material. I was told that since most of the carbon, approx. 95%. is depleted during the welding pr! ocess this area is of great concern to both Bunding Tubing and it's customers, It should be noted that the entire automotive industry plus others is not effected by this mainly because the material that is used by the auto industry is made from a very low carbon steel.. It should also be noted that since the tubing used for shaft manufacturing is of a "Heat Treatable" type (grade) of steel, very high carbon, it also contains about 10 to 15% high carbon scrap, such as ball bearings, dowel pins, etc, etc, it is because of this that steel shafts have more than one hard side or soft side If the scrap is of very high quality or the furnace is not brought up to full heat, 2750* to 2950* this happens quite often, I was told by the ME's at the Ford steel plant, during start ups after long down periods such as long weekends, holidays. As i stated up front it's just my view on the subject. RK KENNEDY golf equipment manufacturer's of world class golfclub repair equipment ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, October 13, 2003 11:03:41 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ShopTalk: Residual Bend N plane - Steel
RE: ShopTalk: Residual Bend N plane - Steel Shafts
Tom / All, As being a retired Manufacturing Engineer from Ford Motor and having seen the "BUTT" welding process that you are talking about I would like to add my $0.02 worth into the mix. Yes as you have stated that during the "BUTT" welding process there is no way that any foreign particle (s) can get into the mix so to say, being that it is preformed in a positive atmosphere chamber, low OX. However although nothing can be added into the mix a very important item is reduced during the process, which can not be reintroduced back into the steel "CARBON". As to it's bending and having "HARD" areas it was explained to me by the Bunding Tubing ME's, which by the way supplied several shaft companies, not TT however, their predrawn material in 20' lengths, is what causes the tubing to be soft in the area of the "BUTT" weld and for approx. 15% to either side of the welded material. I was told that since most of the carbon, approx. 95%. is depleted during the welding process this area is of great concern to both Bunding Tubing and it's customers, It should be noted that the entire automotive industry plus others is not effected by this mainly because the material that is used by the auto industry is made from a very low carbon steel.. It should also be noted that since the tubing used for shaft manufacturing is of a "Heat Treatable" type (grade) of steel, very high carbon, it also contains about 10 to 15% high carbon scrap, such as ball bearings, dowel pins, etc, etc, it is because of this that steel shafts have more than one hard side or soft side If the scrap is of very high quality or the furnace is not brought up to full heat, 2750* to 2950* this happens quite often, I was told by the ME's at the Ford steel plant, during start ups after long down periods such as long weekends, holidays. As i stated up front it's just my view on the subject. RK KENNEDY golf equipment manufacturer's of world class golfclub repair equipment ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, October 13, 2003 11:03:41 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ShopTalk: Residual Bend N plane - Steel Shafts Dave et al: I''ll throw my 2 cents worth in on this and offer the premise that what you are seeing in the difference of the steel shafts vs graphite is explained by the two different manufacturing processes. Steel shafts are almost all made from steel sheet material that is coiled and high frequency welded into the tube from which the shafts are then drawn and step tapered. The sheet is very precise for thickness and mechanical properties. Very few steel shafts are now made from piercing billets and drawing a seamless tube since Apollo is gone. The "welding" is really a high frequency fusing process that melts the coiled steel plate to itself, hence no 'foreign material' is introduced to the tube and the tube remain homogenous. The fuse line is skived very precisely so that after heat treatment and drawing, even x-ray checking has a very difficult time identifying the fusing line. Thus to see only a 3cpm difference circumferentially is very likely. TOM W -Original Message- From: Dave Tutelman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2003 6:58 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Residual Bend N plane - Steel Shafts --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "David Rees" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Now I have to pick up a freqency meter and re-align all the shafts in my > clubs. All my steel shafted clubs are aligned according to the residual > bend detected by my spine finder, it's probably as good as random > alignment. > > Doh! ;-) To which Harry Schiestel replied... At 03:38 AM 10/12/03 +, golf54com wrote: >Without the expensive equipment, we may need to FLO steel shafts to >ensure we get the true plane. I was hoping this wasn't necessary, >as I find FLOing steel shafts to be so bloody time consuming, sigh. > >I watch tour players execute near flawless shots, and that of my son >hitting 5 iron shots to a tight circle. Why then is that possible, >given our current alignment methods and flawed assembly techniques >(lacks precision)? Could many steel shafts (Apollo excluded from my >experience) demonstrate good FLO on the residual bend N plane? That's certainly one possible hypothesis. Here are all I could think of, and there are probably more: (1) Most steel shafts happen to demonstrate FLO on the residual bend plane (as you suggest). This isn't as crazy as it seems. It is possible that the same manufacturing (process) flaws produce bend and spine, meaning that the two would be correlated. (2) What really matters to performance is the combined bend an spine (as Dan Neubecker has suggested; I don't believe this but can't dismiss it out of hand, since there is no real evidence pro or con). (3) Steel shafts seldom have a lot of spine -- typically less than 3cpm. That small a spine may make no discernable performance diffe
Re: ShopTalk: Shaft Straightness Gauge
Chris, Yes Wholesale Tool does have a web site it's www.wttool.com RK KENNEDY golf equipment manufacturer's of world class golfclub repair equipment ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, October 12, 2003 10:45:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Shaft Straightness Gauge Thanks Dave. Does Wholesale Tools have a web site? I've tried a few guesses as to their URL with no luck. Thanks, Chris Burns - Original Message - From: "Dave Tutelman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2003 6:46 AM Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Shaft Straightness Gauge > At 11:37 PM 10/11/03 -0700, Chris Burns wrote: > >Dave: > >Speaking of a spin indexer, can you give me a rough idea of the cost of one > >with the necessary collets? I've run into huge discrepancies on price. > > I got mine from Wholesale Tools, based on a recommendation for Royce Engler... > > > At 07:43 AM 3/19/03 -0600, Royce Engler wrote: > > >If you want to get real precise, here's another solutionget a Spin > Index > > >from Wholesale Tools (1709-0010) and a 5C collet to fit the shaft. Chuck > > >the butt end and rotate the spin index, and you'll see the runout on the > > >tip. Mount a dial indicator at the tip to actually measure it. The > catalog > > >says $49, but I paid about $30, plus $10 for the collet. You'll need > > >different collets for steel and graphite shafts 0.6 inches isn't > nearly > > >as exact for shaft manufacturers as it is for machinists. > > If I recall correctly, it cost about $50 for the indexer and three collets. > I have my records somewhere, but the office is a mess right now. I guess > cleaning up becomes what I do with the free day today. :-( > > Cheers! > DaveT > > . Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling
Re: ShopTalk: RE; Reamer Style
One more thing about drilling and reaming, if the drill or reamer, dull reamers can "Freeze"up inside a hole, ever freezes up never and ai mean never try and free it by lifting or trying to get the tool out of the hole by lifting. Because what will happen is the tool is now unbalanced and will break off and give a good guess whom will be wearing it all the way to the hospital. What you "SHOULD" do is push down on the tool and very calmly reach up and turn the machine "OFF". RK KENNEDY golf equipment manufacturer's of world class golfclub repair equipment ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, October 09, 2003 6:54:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ShopTalk: RE; Reamer Style John, all, I've been busy fixing a design change that I had tested my normal 100 times but I forgot one test and it turned out to be a very bad idea so I guess I'm going to have steel to eat for a while, lucky for me a good friend found it for me so all is not lost. I'll bet your all sitting scratching your heads and asking your monitor screens"What the hell has that got to do with reamers. Of course nothing but I'm just trying to give John and another Clubmaker an answer as to just why I haven't gotten around to answering their questions. For clubmaking I like to stay away from right hand fluting and go for left handed fluting, if I can not get left handed fluting then my second choice is straight flutes. My reasoning is this 1/ Nobody in this form uses a reamer more than I do unless your a Tool & Die Maker, so my reasoning here is if it's going to scare the shit out of me using one w/out firnly bolting my fixture to the drill table I can just imaging what it's going to do to any one of you when it grabs and you are most likely holding it fairly loose and it gets away from your grasp. 2/ If you use a left hand or a straight fluted reamer the chances of this happening are slim , very slim. 3/ Most tool shops do not really like the left handed reamers, they throw the chip ahead of the reamer and some times the hole comes out just a shade larger then wanted and since 85% of the time the work that is being done is clamped down either to the drill or milling machine table why then even go there. 4/ So most of the time if a tool supply house does have them, in the odd sizes that we use they sell them at a lower cost, like about about a year ago I was able to pick up a batch of .343 LH reamers for about $2.00 ea after S&H which is a great price they normally go for around $9 to $13 ea.i just make sure that i stay on every bodies mailing list even though sometimes I must buy something to remain on it at a small bit higher cost then i would pay from my normal supply house. RK KENNEDY golf equipment manufacturer's of world class golfclub repair equipment ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, October 09, 2003 5:08:08 PM To: ShopTalk Subject: ShopTalk: Reamer style Another question for RK: I read the collection of messages about drill bits and reamers from RK from a link on clubmaker online, and took away some really good reference information. What is the correct style of reamer to use for cleaning or enlarging hosels - the style you would order from a supply house. John B . Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling RK KENNEDY golf equipment manufacturer's of world class golfclub repair equipment Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling
ShopTalk: RE; Reamer Style
John, all, I've been busy fixing a design change that I had tested my normal 100 times but I forgot one test and it turned out to be a very bad idea so I guess I'm going to have steel to eat for a while, lucky for me a good friend found it for me so all is not lost. I'll bet your all sitting scratching your heads and asking your monitor screens"What the hell has that got to do with reamers. Of course nothing but I'm just trying to give John and another Clubmaker an answer as to just why I haven't gotten around to answering their questions. For clubmaking I like to stay away from right hand fluting and go for left handed fluting, if I can not get left handed fluting then my second choice is straight flutes. My reasoning is this 1/ Nobody in this form uses a reamer more than I do unless your a Tool & Die Maker, so my reasoning here is if it's going to scare the shit out of me using one w/out firnly bolting my fixture to the drill table I can just imaging what it's going to do to any one of you when it grabs and you are most likely holding it fairly loose and it gets away from your grasp. 2/ If you use a left hand or a straight fluted reamer the chances of this happening are slim , very slim. 3/ Most tool shops do not really like the left handed reamers, they throw the chip ahead of the reamer and some times the hole comes out just a shade larger then wanted and since 85% of the time the work that is being done is clamped down either to the drill or milling machine table why then even go there. 4/ So most of the time if a tool supply house does have them, in the odd sizes that we use they sell them at a lower cost, like about about a year ago I was able to pick up a batch of .343 LH reamers for about $2.00 ea after S&H which is a great price they normally go for around $9 to $13 ea.i just make sure that i stay on every bodies mailing list even though sometimes I must buy something to remain on it at a small bit higher cost then i would pay from my normal supply house. RK KENNEDY golf equipment manufacturer's of world class golfclub repair equipment ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, October 09, 2003 5:08:08 PM To: ShopTalk Subject: ShopTalk: Reamer style Another question for RK: I read the collection of messages about drill bits and reamers from RK from a link on clubmaker online, and took away some really good reference information. What is the correct style of reamer to use for cleaning or enlarging hosels - the style you would order from a supply house. John B . Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling RK KENNEDY golf equipment manufacturer's of world class golfclub repair equipment Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling
Re: ShopTalk: NBP-COG
Scott, to put it very simply , ALIEN THE HARD SPINE AT 12:00. 12:00 keeps the clubhead toe from drooping. Forget what ever anybody else says, especially Mr. David T.whom is not a clubmaker per se & who knows very little about making/fitting of golfclubs. By his own admission he only makes , at the very most, one set of clubs per year and those are strictly for his own personal use, Mr. David T. made that statement not I. In fact Mr. David T. fought us "SPINER'S" tooth and nail that the position off the spine had no effect on the playability or the flex of the golfclub. It was not until several People outside of ShopTalk or SpineTalk got into the fray, with lots of money backing them,that he got into the discussion. I'm not to sure but I think that Ed J., the host of SplineTalk, asked, I feel is a better word to use then lets say kicked off of SpileTalk, because of his disruptive and know it all air that he tried to use in his posts. I do not subscribe to SpineTalk not because I do not believe in their views, which by the way I helped to put into use, but because I'm am presently engaged in other web sites that will have some, I hope, effecting with my health. I am not the clubmaker that has been spining the longest but i have been "SPINEING" golfclubs since 1984 long before it became popular. RK KENNEDY golf equipment manufacturer's of world class golfclub repair equipment ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 1:02:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ShopTalk: NBP-COG Let me preface this by saying my introduction to this subject is at most a week old, and if my statements seem out to lunch, they very well may be. I'm trying to think this through with my own limited understanding. I'm certainly not trying to pass this off as if I know something that the rest of you don't. If I remember my physics correctly (and I probably don't), I expect any system like this to have some natural vibration; the twang you induce for FLO would cause this particular system to vibrate at its natural frequency. If the system is FLO aligned correctly this vibration is along the target line at impact, i.e 3-9 o'clock. Otherwise this vibration has a 12-6 o'clock component to it, which would help take the clubface out of the line with the ball. Please note that I have no idea how large this component would be. Are we talking fractions of millimeters here? If the NBP is aligned to COG, the local minima for shaft rigidity, then the vibration should be at a minimum because this is the most inherently stable shaft orientation for the force applied (I used the term damping to describe this ... I shouldn't have, it isn't the correct term). If the spine were aligned at COG, then when force is applied from the downsing, the shaft wants to rotate away (as in a spine finder), because this is the most inherently unstable shaft orientation and you would get the most vibration. Again, I have no idea if the deflection due to this oscillation could cause a toe or heel hit. When I started reading up on this, I was suprised aligning the spine would have any noticable affect on your shot at all. Thank you for your patience. Scott Dave Tutelman wrote: > At 08:40 PM 10/7/03 -0600, Scott Stephens wrote: > >> It makes sense to me to align a NBP to the COG, since this should >> contribute the least amount of oscillation of the club head/shaft. I >> was originally thinking that the spine should be here so that the >> least amount of bending of the shaft would happen at the bottom of >> the downswing, but that would result in the most amount of oscillation. > > > Scott, > I'm sorry, but you lost me. Why would there be more oscillation with > the spine aligned with the CG than NBP-CG? Here's my take on it; > please tell me where I'm wrong: > > If you align either the NBP or the spine with the CG, then any force > arising from bending at the bottom of the swing will be in the plane > of the shaft and the CG. Any other alignment will have forces outside > that plane, which could cause bending (and perhaps oscillation) in > other planes as well. > >> Then I read about FLO alignment where it is stated that alignment >> should be along the target line (see "SPINE FINDING AND WHAT TO DO >> WITH THEM AFTER YOU FIND THEM"). Am I correct that these orientations >> would be close to 90° out of phase in a 3 iron (but not nearly that >> much for a driver or sand wedge)? It seems to me that aligning the >> NBP(s) along the target line would not maximally dampen the >> oscillations, but would keep whatever oscillations are present going >> parallel to the target line (so you should hit closest to the sweet >> spot). Is that the essence of FLO alignment? > > > Again, I'm confused by your statement. In particular, I don't have a > clue what would cause damping of oscillations to be different in the > different planes. I can see a difference in the creation of > oscill
RE: ShopTalk: Epoxy bonding problem
Right Mike wrong Al T. You couldn't get women to crowd around him if he was giving away $100.00 bills , which by the way he never paid for yet. Al T. is to women what horse shit is to smell. RK KENNEDY golf equipment manufacturer's of world class golfclub repair equipment ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, October 02, 2003 12:59:04 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ShopTalk: Epoxy bonding problem Could be?? Is the same "AL" that had all the pretty women circling around him at the Golfsmith Dungeon in Orlando? MikeWalker > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Al Taylor > Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 10:18 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: ShopTalk: Epoxy bonding problem > > > Is that the same old Mike Walker from years gone by? > > Al > > At 04:36 PM 10/1/2003, you wrote: > >Leo, > >I lubricate the hosel with the thinnest epoxy film and install ferrule. > >Two reasons, makes for an easier ferrule installation on prepped > shaft tip > >and eliminates ferrule creep. > >I find that some clubs where no epoxy was used have ferrule > creped away from > >the hosel. > >Easy fix, but should not be necessary, small amount of crazy glue between > >the hosel and ferrule, slide ferrule to meet hosel. > >Be sure no crazy glue makes its way on outside of ferrule or you will be > >replacing it. Also be careful when sliding the ferrule to meet the hosel > >that any excess is wiped away immediately. > >Hope this helps. > >MikeWalker > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Letourneau, Henry J > > > AM1(AW) (VAW120) > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 1:35 PM > > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > > > Subject: RE: ShopTalk: Epoxy bonding problem > > > > > > > > > Hi mike. i dont prep ferrules on my clubs, just push them on > > > with the club > > > head. is this wrong? thanks - jim > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Mike Walker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 4:25 PM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: RE: ShopTalk: Epoxy bonding problem > > > > > > > > > Leo > > > I use a 1" belt sander with a 120 or 80 grit belt to prep the shafts. > > > For the hosels, I fill the hosel half full with acetone from a squirt > > > bottle, run a hosel hone down the hosel for 5 seconds, empty > the acetone > > > into trash can, blow hosel out with air gun. > > > Both preps quick and inexpensive. > > > Mike Walker > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > > > Behalf Of Leo Noordhuizen > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 2:27 PM > > > To: ShopTalk > > > Subject: ShopTalk: Epoxy bonding problem > > > > > > > > > A basic question: > > > > > > I have a question on preparing metal shafts and iron heads > for the epoxy. > > > I have no problem at all with the bond between grapite shafts > and iron or > > > wood clubheads. > > > However Iron heads on iron shafts are getting me nervous. I > am lucky that > > > nobody had yet the surprise of a flying clubhead, but now and > then there > > > comes some creep in a clubhead. > > > I just got 2 back for a friend, and with my own set I am > going to re-epoxy > > > the head of 2 irons. > > > > > > My question: What is the best way to prepare the bore and the > shaft to get > > > an optimal bond ? > > > > > > Regards, Leo - The netherlands > > > > > > > > . Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling
Re: ShopTalk: A name is A name.
When I live back in Michigan I bowled three times a week, held a 182 avg and a 7 hcp in golf, The one team I bowled with called ourselves, you must remember that these were all male bowling leagues and that most men's bowling balls were 16#, 80 pounds of Balls. RK KENNEDY golf equipment manufacturer's of world class golfclub repair equipment ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, September 29, 2003 2:17:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ShopTalk: A name is A name. Arnie... another advantage to bowling I'm told, is that you don't lose as many balls. :-)[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/29/03 11:38:48 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: . I had a Macgregor driver 10 degree "wood" but ithad an aluminum insert a brass back and a metal sole plate. Was it a"wood" or a metal?I'm sooo confused. Have a club here marked "Pittsburgh Persimmon". It looks like it's made out of some sort of metal. Did a computer search and could not find out if persimmon wood grown in Pittsburgh, PA area has a different composition than persimmon from other parts of the country? THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO KNOW! I believe that because a metal head is shaped like a "wood" head it is still called a "wood". The problem is being compounded with metal heads resembling turn of the last century clubs made out of wood that served the purpose of today's "irons". Then someone started calling these "hybrids". I just can't figure this out! If I use a screwdriver to pry something apart, can it still be a screwdriver. Is it a driver or a pryer? Can I assume that because a head is marked with the number "1" it's a driver even though it's loft is 15*? If I hit my 5 iron off a low tee from the tee box should I label it a driver and not use it off the fairway? If I use my 7 wood (metal head) off the tee is it a "driver"? I am s confused! Please don't answer my golf question. I am giving up the game of golf because a friend gave me a 16 pound ball that has some holes in it and he said it is used for bowling or something like that. Should I fill the holes? What should I use to fill the holes? Can I put a handle on it? Is there a tool to fit into the holes with an attached handle? Oh well, I think I"ll just go out to the driving range and practice my bowling. Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling
Re: ShopTalk: Great Big Bertha
Arnie / all, what I do when I want to reuse a ferrule is i made myself a two piece's steel with a hole drilled thru the two pieces of steel at the parting line. I then just use the one that I need, .350 for woods and .280 for irons, and I then just apply a small amount of heat to the shaft then it's just tap atp and off it comes. If anybody wants to see just wgat the hell i'm talking about I'll try and run it thru my scanner and send it to you but not right now because right now I've got a shit load of work aready in the shop. RK KENNEDY golf equipment manufacturer's of world class golfclub repair equipment ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, September 21, 2003 9:50:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ShopTalk: Great Big Bertha HAS ANYONE REMOVED THE SHAFT FROM A GREAT BIG BERTHA PRO SERIES CLUB? Yes, I have done these. CAN THE SHAFT BE SAVED? Yes, you can save the shaft AND the "insert ferrule". IF SO, WAS SOMETHING USED BETWEEN THE PULLER AND THE CLUBHEAD TO SAVE THE FINISH ON TOP OF THE HEAD?Yes, use the same "PVC sleeve" that you use to remove the Ping shafts with the "hosel insert". Mine is made out of PVC and the grip is blown off so that the sleeve will slide down the shaft from the butt.WHAT FERRULE WAS USED TO COMPLETE THE JOB?Save the original ferrule, it will remain on the shaft when the head is pulled. Place the usual "comb" adaptor for shaft diameter on the shaft and with your shaft extractor you will be able to push the original ferrule off the shaft (you may have to warm it GENTLY with your heat gun to make it expand a little). Don't heat the ferrule too much to prevent deforming it. Tip: after head is removed, clean the shaft tip of all old epoxy residue and the "ferrule" will slide off without being damaged. TIAArnie Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling
Re: ShopTalk: Double jumbo
Mark, Since my illness I've tried several different things to make my grips feel better and a larger size seems to fit my bill just nicely. What I did to make the grips feel more consistent is use a 14" long piece of 3/4" "SHRINK TUBING". Rather than trying to build up tape and keep the feel more consistent this is the only thing I found that will give me that feel.. This is the way I did it others may a have a different approach. RK ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, September 13, 2003 11:18:39 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ShopTalk: Double jumbo Guys-- Need some double jumbo [.580-6.0] grips. Is 1/8th inch oversize considered double jumbo? Seems to be some ambiguity. Gri[1]p One made the last I had. Brand not important. Thanks. Mack Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling
RE: ShopTalk: Please go Here ( very O.T. rant)
Kevil, how about the DVD's, you have for burning, a DVD(+)R and a DVD(-)R Along with the DVD(+)RW and the DVD(-)RW. And that is not only for your DVD Burner it is also for your DVD Player which also must accept the (+) or(-) or like ,my new unit it accepts both the (+) and (-). I just happened to luck out having a friend along with me when I bought my new unit, Marion ruined our old + unit. Circuit City had a DVD Player on sale for $69.00 and I was going to buy it but my friend pointed out that it would only accept the (-) type of disc's and my burner was a (+) type burner. My new DELL puter now accepts both the (+) & (-) DVD's so I can burn either one. RK ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, September 12, 2003 12:43:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ShopTalk: Please go Here ( very O.T. rant) As for better arguments and examples, how about the current problems with DVD-Audio and the music industry's attempts to coerce the hardware manufacturers into building outrageous copy-protection schemes into the hardware itself? Or what about the extra cost of blank CD-RW disks vs CR-R's? -Original Message- From: Leo Noordhuizen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 8:49 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Please go Here ( very O.T. rant) What is said below about DAT recorders in Europe is complete nonsense. I am from The Netherlands, and have been working a long time for Philips who was (I think) the inventor of the DAT recorder. The DAT recorder has never been a success. Also in Europe I think it is virtually impossible to buy a recorder nowadays. Also the tapes are probably not available any more. (And this situation already exists for quite some years) So while agree-ing that we should be very aware of what our governments do for whatever clear or unclear reason, we should use correct arguments and examples. Regards, Leo Noordhuizen - Original Message - From: "Another Happy Linux User" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 6:25 AM Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Please go Here ( very O.T. rant) > > One other "small" thing > > How many of you own a Digital Audio Recorder (DAT)? > > (most will say "not me") > > You know why? Because the "music industry" has convinced the courts, that > we would all be criminals, if we owned one! No crime has been commited, > - yet we are all being punished! *Why!* > Because we "might" copy music? > The "music industry" has "legally?", blocked the manufacturers from making > these devices available. > > DAT has been a distribution media standard in Europe, for some time now, - > most people there have at least one (DAT recorder/player), in their home, > - and we (in U.S. and Canada), can't even buy them. (except only, if one > owns and/or operates a commercial recording studio). > > What's wrong with this picture? > > Oops. I forgot, - we are criminals, - just looking for a crime to > commit against the recordng industry.. > > > > Cheers, > > Jorgen > [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling
ShopTalk: Please go Here
Please go to this site and read what's it is all about then if you agree please sign up. www.eff.com RK Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling
Re: ShopTalk: MYRTLE BEACH
I'm still here Scott, Call me at 843 237 9517 We don't go out all that much anymore, because of you know why. Which by the way I feeling a lots better now that I'm exercizing ever day. RK ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, September 08, 2003 10:51:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ShopTalk: MYRTLE BEACH How many shoptalkers are from the Myrtle Beach area? I will be in town from Sept. 13th thru to Sept 17th. If I find time I would like to drop in and see some of your shops. Also if one of my playing buddies breaks a club or looses one , I would like to know where I could send them to have it repaired or replaced. Pat McGoldrick--On Target Golf Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling
Re: ShopTalk: Integra 450 Beta (LH)
Thanks for the input ED. I just might do just that beings i have both a 14* and a 13.5* head. RK ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, September 07, 2003 12:41:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Integra 450 Beta (LH) RK, I built a PureFit 15 degree (186g) driver with an SKFiber VIP L at 45" for a guy who had some health problems (when built he'd had a stroke 1 1/2 years back, heart bypass 3 months back). C4 swingweight. The VIP is REAL weenie of a shaft. He hits the hell out of it, with great trajectory. His strength is improving and tried a 13 1/2 degree PureFit (191g) and a VIP A, but still couldn't replace the orginal. It is sure worth a try. /Ed Richard Kennedy wrote: > Hey Bernie, how much would I get with my new 73mph swing speed, that's > the swing I now get But only after I'm warmed up for a few holes. > Being sick sure is a bitch. > > RK > > ---Original Message--- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Sunday, September 07, 2003 10:39:53 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Integra 450 Beta (LH) > > George, > > Ha! That's "back-up driver" stuff is amazing, isn't it? I've done three > customer-ordered, back-up drivers for my S450/Pure Energy-A/Winn combos. > Never did back-ups for any other drivers, either. I'm using a 58 gram, > Graman TP440-A for some of my 47" versions. Another shaft that seems to work > OK for 47" clubs is the 54 gram, Rapport Recoil 50 R. > > I've also been trying the Integra Pentium X, which specs at 195 grams, for > long drivers. Plays pretty long, but it doesn't seem to have the same > "trampoline feel" that I get out of the S450 with my 90 mph swing speed. > > Bernie > Writeto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > - Original Message - > From: "GEORGE HUSON" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2003 9:15 AM > Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Integra 450 Beta (LH) > > > > Joe, > > I would have to agree with Bernie, the S450 head is > > still one of the best on the market, and the price is > > quite a bit less then what Steve Alomo charges for his > > biam big bang head. I have one of the original designs > > that has a very very thin face in my bag, I have used > > several LH s450 heads, they still are very thin face. > > IMO for a senior player, if you build a long driver > > 47"-52" it is still the best head you can buy at the > > best price that is light enough (195gm) for the > > customer to swing it. I use the Proforce 55 shaft for > > 47" and the longwood 50-50 for longer lengths. I thing > > Bernie uses a different shaft than the proforce. I > > have sold close to 50 clubs using the S450 & the > > Proforce 55. I have not had a customer comeback yet > > and ask for a different head or shaft. I build one > > last week for a customer with a 82mph swing (72 yrs > > old) used a very soft 55 A flex and a 196gm S450 head > > (10deg) built to 47 1/4". Customer gained 25 yards > > average longest was over a 50 yard gain. He came in > > yesterday to order a back-up driver. He is so afraid > > that the head design or shaft may change or that > > someone may steal his driver that he wants a spare. > > This is the 5th spare driver I have built with this > > combo. I can't remember building spares for any other > > head before. > > > > George Huson > > ByGeorge Custom Clubs > > --- Bernie Baymiller <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > wrote: > > > Joe, > > > > > > There are lots of suppliers with the Integra Super > > > 450...Diamond Tour, IN > > > Golf Components, Low Pro (Golf Direct) and others. > > > If you are planning on an > > > overlength driver, ask for a 195-196 gram head > > > weight. They're scarce, but > > > play very well for many seniors at 47" and 48". I've > > > been playing an S450 on > > > a 48" driver for two years and haven't found a head > > > that plays any better. > > > > > > Astal Vista thought BIAM was a better head. I've > > > tried four BIAM driver > > > heads and every one was a dog, IMO. Slice machines, > > > and no better made than > > > the Integras. I guess it's all "in the eyes of the > > > beholder." The B
Re: ShopTalk: Integra 450 Beta (LH)
Hey Bernie, how much would I get with my new 73mph swing speed, that's the swing I now get But only after I'm warmed up for a few holes. Being sick sure is a bitch. RK ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, September 07, 2003 10:39:53 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Integra 450 Beta (LH) George, Ha! That's "back-up driver" stuff is amazing, isn't it? I've done three customer-ordered, back-up drivers for my S450/Pure Energy-A/Winn combos. Never did back-ups for any other drivers, either. I'm using a 58 gram, Graman TP440-A for some of my 47" versions. Another shaft that seems to work OK for 47" clubs is the 54 gram, Rapport Recoil 50 R. I've also been trying the Integra Pentium X, which specs at 195 grams, for long drivers. Plays pretty long, but it doesn't seem to have the same "trampoline feel" that I get out of the S450 with my 90 mph swing speed. Bernie Writeto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "GEORGE HUSON" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2003 9:15 AM Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Integra 450 Beta (LH) > Joe, > I would have to agree with Bernie, the S450 head is > still one of the best on the market, and the price is > quite a bit less then what Steve Alomo charges for his > biam big bang head. I have one of the original designs > that has a very very thin face in my bag, I have used > several LH s450 heads, they still are very thin face. > IMO for a senior player, if you build a long driver > 47"-52" it is still the best head you can buy at the > best price that is light enough (195gm) for the > customer to swing it. I use the Proforce 55 shaft for > 47" and the longwood 50-50 for longer lengths. I thing > Bernie uses a different shaft than the proforce. I > have sold close to 50 clubs using the S450 & the > Proforce 55. I have not had a customer comeback yet > and ask for a different head or shaft. I build one > last week for a customer with a 82mph swing (72 yrs > old) used a very soft 55 A flex and a 196gm S450 head > (10deg) built to 47 1/4". Customer gained 25 yards > average longest was over a 50 yard gain. He came in > yesterday to order a back-up driver. He is so afraid > that the head design or shaft may change or that > someone may steal his driver that he wants a spare. > This is the 5th spare driver I have built with this > combo. I can't remember building spares for any other > head before. > > George Huson > ByGeorge Custom Clubs > --- Bernie Baymiller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Joe, > > > > There are lots of suppliers with the Integra Super > > 450...Diamond Tour, IN > > Golf Components, Low Pro (Golf Direct) and others. > > If you are planning on an > > overlength driver, ask for a 195-196 gram head > > weight. They're scarce, but > > play very well for many seniors at 47" and 48". I've > > been playing an S450 on > > a 48" driver for two years and haven't found a head > > that plays any better. > > > > Astal Vista thought BIAM was a better head. I've > > tried four BIAM driver > > heads and every one was a dog, IMO. Slice machines, > > and no better made than > > the Integras. I guess it's all "in the eyes of the > > beholder." The Big Bang > > 450 is another good head, a bit better quality than > > the S450 and as long > > hitting, or longer, but none are under 198 grams. If > > you are building a > > 44"-45" driver, the BB450 would be a very good > > choice. > > > > Bernie > > Writeto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Joe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 8:09 PM > > Subject: ShopTalk: Integra 450 Beta (LH) > > > > > > > Hi Group: > > > Someone recommended this head for a senior player. > > I checked the > > > catalogues I have on hand, and didnt find a > > supplier. > > > > > > Can someone send me a listing of a supplier? > > > I'm in Canada, but I'll gladly order from the US > > > Thanks for the reply Group. > > > > > > Joe > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus > > (http://www.grisoft.com). > > > Version: 7.0.167 / Virus Database: 259.11.7 - > > Release Date: 9/1/03 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > . Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling
Re: ShopTalk: Re: why bother?
Hey Mickey, WHAT DID HE SAY? RK ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, September 01, 2003 8:28:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Re: why bother? In milder terms, I say ditto. There are lots of hobbyists and cut and gluers in this forum and every question deserves the courtesy of accepting the question as being serious and the giving a serious answer. I also have been attending this forum for some 7 or 8 years and it seems like I have answered every club fitting and club making question possible. Of course I haven't but that is the nature of some of the more qualified. To help those trying to seriously learn the trade. There are a lot of well qualified fitters and club makers here, many I have met personally. Some of us just help with less bravado, I guess. Al At 02:36 PM 9/1/2003, you wrote: >Hey! > >Screw Arnie! Who the hell is he? A friggin' golf club assembler. What's his >station? Pariah? Moses? > >If a person has an opinion he should voice it without some asshole who >thinks he's the only goddam clubmaker who ever "graced" these pages >insulting his opinion. > >Look y'all. What's so goddam hard about our chosen passion? Sticking heads >and shafts together is child's play. Chosing shafts, heads, grips and sw's >is simple. > >I've been fitting golfers for clubs for over 40 goddam years and I've been >answering what could have often been considered truly goofy questions on >this here forum for about 6 - 7 years, and I've yet to "dis" a questioner. >There's a lot of folks out there who need fundamental answers. > >There are a lot of folks who do things differently than I do them. I like my >way but dammit! Even after 4 decades there are ways to do this stuff I >hadn't thought of. I like the "tips." > >A lot of guys have opinions as to what works best and what doesn't. There's >no reason to insult them. > >Share the friggin' info and don't dismiss it. > >TFlan > >BTW: I learned most of what I know from Richard Kennedy who is, as we all >know, a complete asshole :-) > > >- Original Message - >From: "Burgess Howell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2003 7:28 PM >Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Re: why bother? > > > > Don't get Arnie pissed. > > > > At 07:24 PM 8/31/03, you wrote: > > >And all I said was I use Devcon 5 minute epoxy? > > > > > >Did I miss something here? > > > > > >--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > Go to http://www.devcon.com/techinfo/adhphy.pdf and > > > > you will see that 5 > > > > minute has strength of 1400 psi vs 2400 psi for 10 > > > > minute > > > > > > > > I will only use 5 minute stuff for bore through > > > > shaft plugs or REseating a > > > > ferrule (never had one on my builds). > > > > > > > > Once again > > > > You can cure 24 hour cure epoxy in one hour at 140 > > > > degrees F. about 1.5 hours > > > > at 120-125 degrees F. > > > > > > > > If you are interested in building or repairing golf > > > > clubs FAST you should > > > > build a "hot box" like I have described many times! > > > > I don't think a customer will > > > > feel that your service is poor if you can reshaft a > > > > club in 3 hours (ready > > > > to play) or fit someone in the morning and deliver > > > > the clubs in 4-5 hours > > > > including loft / lie adjustment. Let's get real > > > > here! The only thing I don't have > > > > time for is repairing a repair. That's free and I'm > > > > worth more than that. > > > > > > > > If you are going to change shafts and heads to fit a > > > > golfer and you want a > > > > smoke and mirror show besides to impress this > > > > potential customer > > > > knock yourself out with any of the > > > > "instant fix products" that are not > > > > permanent! I find that a customer won't wait while > > > > you pull a head, prep the hosel, > > > > apply your magic adhesive, and allow "some cure > > > > time" (even 2 minutes). People > > > > are too impatient for that! Build a bunch of "test" > > > > clubs and spend your time > > > > "selling&quo
Re: ShopTalk: SA 2000 contact info
Guy's there has been more print, E-Mail, on this subject that there has been on on the Iraq war on TV.How about taking any further discussion off line. In other words Enough is Enough. TY RK ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, August 29, 2003 10:00:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ShopTalk: SA 2000 contact info In a message dated 8/29/2003 5:55:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I cut sandpaper into about 1 1/2" by 4" strips that I roll and fit around a drill bit to use in the drill press to clean the inside of the hosel.Another method is to take a piece of 1/4" steel tubing and cut a slit in one end to accommodate the sandpaper. Frank Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling
Re: ShopTalk: Kennedy's shaft puller
Pat You and your wife, compaion, lover, girl friend, will be more than welcome at my shop and my home. Right this minute I can not tell you but if you have the new 3" clamp you do have the lastest and greatest . If not bring it along anyways and well make it one hows that offer. RK ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 5:28:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ShopTalk: Kennedy's shaft puller RK, I purchased your shaft puller on 10/27/02 and I was wondering if this is the puller that needs the new upgrade? If so I was planning to send it to you or I may bring it to you on or around 9/13 as I will be in Myrtle Beach from 9/13 to 9/16. Thanks, Pat McGoldrick--On Target Golf Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling
Re: ShopTalk: Stuff you need?
That is very true Frank, In fact I gave one away, I had to have one when I lived in the Detroit area because I had a Bridgeport. But I figure now WHY bother when I can get the machine I want with the equipment on it that I need Why got to the bother of a phase converter??? Plus with a phase converter you lose about, now I reading direct from the instruction sheet that comes with the unit, from 10% on small 1 to 2.5 HP motors up to 25% on larger motors. So with a total HP of the total of all of my machinery it comes to 10 HP so I would be getting only around 7.5 HP if I had all of my machinery running at the same time. No thanks guys when I can get the same HP motor for the price why bother. Just as a side note to the phase converter it must be running at all times for it to do it's thing, supply 220 volts 3 phase. So not only are you having to run it at all times, boosting up you monthly electric bill, I think that Santee Cooper already get enough of my money as it is, you have the constant noise that is put out from the converter . Just something to think about. RK ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, August 24, 2003 12:26:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Stuff you need? In a message dated 8/23/2003 6:51:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Not a bad price if it truly is in the condition that he says it's in . The only reason I would not buy it is because it's 220 volts 3 phase. Can't do 3 phaseAll of my machines are single phase. RKYou can purchase a phase converter. My friend has a machine shop and that's what he uses. The small unit that he used on his lathe was good for 5 HP and cost less than $100. Frank Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling
Re: ShopTalk: Nanoscience of Club Making
Don, how did you know that I was an atendee THanks for reminding me. RK ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, August 23, 2003 7:51:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ShopTalk: Nanoscience of Club Making This may apply to Clubmakers :0) * Nanotechnology Scientists gather in Rapid City. Nationally recognized experts in the areas of nanotechnology gathered in Rapid City this week for the first regional conference on Nanoscience and Engineering. Nanotechnology is an umbrella term that covers many areas of research dealing with objects measured in nanometers. A nanometer (nm) is a billionth of a meter, or a millionth of a millimeter. For example, a human hair's diameter measures about 200,000 nanometers. The ultimate value of nanotechnology is quality. By building products at the molecular level, they will last longer, work better, and push their potential to new levels. Don Johnson Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling
Re: ShopTalk: Stuff you need?
I know that I was getting mine twice but I think I'm OK now, Personally I think that YaHoo is at fault, At least I sure hope so. RK ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, August 23, 2003 7:28:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Stuff you need? I've gotten this 5 times. Am I just lucky or is everyone getting multiples? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 8/23/2003 10:44:50 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 8/22/03 10:07:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: . I love my $5000.00 milling machine I can relate to this illness! I covet some machines, not for the machine itself but for what it can do! Amazing. If I owned a milling machine I would never get any sleep! Arnie Sleep on this one. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2551996843&category=12584 Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling
Re: ShopTalk: Stuff you need?
Not a bad price if it truly is in the condition that he says it's in . The only reason I would not buy it is because it's 220 volts 3 phase. Can't do 3 phase All of my machines are single phase. RK ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, August 23, 2003 5:15:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Stuff you need? In a message dated 8/23/2003 10:44:50 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 8/22/03 10:07:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: . I love my $5000.00 milling machine I can relate to this illness! I covet some machines, not for the machine itself but for what it can do! Amazing. If I owned a milling machine I would never get any sleep!Arnie Sleep on this one. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2551996843&category=12584 Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling
Re: ShopTalk: Golf Clubmaking Software ??
Disregard this copy copy, don't ask me why just do it If your confused think how I feel RK ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, August 23, 2003 12:08:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Golf Clubmaking Software ?? I wonder just who is putting out this piece of crap??? And at what cost??? If I were starting any business today i would first hack with the Small Business Administration on how to start up a business, any business. Or just pick our collective brains from this forum, which is most likely what the maker of that CD did, I have never gotten one bad piece of bad info, maybe a differance of opinion, but still not bad from this forum in the 7 years that I had been coming here. And if most of us really don't know there's always Dave T. he knows everything.or at least he thinks he does. RK ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, August 23, 2003 11:30:49 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ShopTalk: Golf Clubmaking Software ?? Namaster for all! Thx a lot by the help some of you is giviing me with the BPlan issue! As soo as i have it finished, I ll share it with who need. Does anyonw knows this software? does it is usefull ? http://www.golfperfect.com/index.htm Golf Clubmaking Software for the professional and amateur clubmaker! Download The Only All-in-One Software for Planning & Building Clubs Now and also receive your Free Bonus Golf Club Assembly Plans! - Now, planning & building custom-fit golf clubs from components is easier than ever! Golfer Use Golf Clubmaking Software on your home computer to: Simulate millions of head, shaft & grip combinations to design your 'perfect' set of clubs! Custom swingweight-match components before you buy them! Adjust the swingweight of any club design by varying its headweight, shaftweight, gripweight, clublength, or shaftlength with the exclusive "What If" feature! Fine-Tune clubs to each other or to any desired swingweight! Custom fit each club based upon your personal measurements & preferences! Sample component and golfer measurements are included for all features! No other software contains the features of Golf Clubmaking Software. And, unlike free calculator programs which may rely on inaccurate generic formulas, Golf Clubmaking Software was developed by master clubmakers & extensively tested using actual clubmaking industry tools & tolerances! - The all-included, user friendly features include: Swingweight Calculators for assembled & unassembled clubs! Clublength Calculators for men's & women's woods, irons, wedges & putter! Gripsize Calculators for men's & women's grips! Swingspeed Calculators for woods & irons! Shaft Flex Calculators for graphite & steel shafts! Adjustment Calculators for custom matching clubs to each other! - You can even Adjust & Match your present golf clubs: Adjust the swingweight of your current clubs to any desired swingweight! Match your clubs to your favorite club or your favorite swingweight! Adjustment Calculators provide specific custom instructions for matching & modifying the swingweight of each club without the use of special tools! Bonus Special - Free Golf Club Assembly Plans included! Getting a Golfsmith component catalog for free! Getting a good deal! Choosing clubheads, shafts, & grips! Tools you will need (with Golfsmith part numbers)! Optional tools (with Golfsmith part numbers)! Additional items needed to build graphite clubs (with Golfsmith part numbers)! Steel shaft golf club assembly instructions! Graphite shaft golf club assembly instructions! Recommended books! Recommended software! Golf Clubmaking Software is user-friendly & affordable! Click Below to download the software and your Free assembly instructions now! Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling
Re: ShopTalk: Golf Clubmaking Software ??
Disregard other copy of this post. RK ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, August 23, 2003 12:07:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Golf Clubmaking Software ?? I wonder just who is putting out this piece of crap??? And at what cost??? If I were starting any business today i would first hack with the Small Business Administration on how to start up a business, any business. Or just pick our collective brains from this forum, which is most likely what the maker of that CD did, I have never gotten one bad piece of bad info, maybe a differance of opinion, but still not bad from this forum in the 7 years that I had been coming here. And if most of us really don't know there's always Dave T. he knows everything.or at least he thinks he does. RK ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, August 23, 2003 11:30:49 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ShopTalk: Golf Clubmaking Software ?? Namaster for all! Thx a lot by the help some of you is giviing me with the BPlan issue! As soo as i have it finished, I ll share it with who need. Does anyonw knows this software? does it is usefull ? http://www.golfperfect.com/index.htm Golf Clubmaking Software for the professional and amateur clubmaker! Download The Only All-in-One Software for Planning & Building Clubs Now and also receive your Free Bonus Golf Club Assembly Plans! - Now, planning & building custom-fit golf clubs from components is easier than ever! Golfer Use Golf Clubmaking Software on your home computer to: Simulate millions of head, shaft & grip combinations to design your 'perfect' set of clubs! Custom swingweight-match components before you buy them! Adjust the swingweight of any club design by varying its headweight, shaftweight, gripweight, clublength, or shaftlength with the exclusive "What If" feature! Fine-Tune clubs to each other or to any desired swingweight! Custom fit each club based upon your personal measurements & preferences! Sample component and golfer measurements are included for all features! No other software contains the features of Golf Clubmaking Software. And, unlike free calculator programs which may rely on inaccurate generic formulas, Golf Clubmaking Software was developed by master clubmakers & extensively tested using actual clubmaking industry tools & tolerances! - The all-included, user friendly features include: Swingweight Calculators for assembled & unassembled clubs! Clublength Calculators for men's & women's woods, irons, wedges & putter! Gripsize Calculators for men's & women's grips! Swingspeed Calculators for woods & irons! Shaft Flex Calculators for graphite & steel shafts! Adjustment Calculators for custom matching clubs to each other! - You can even Adjust & Match your present golf clubs: Adjust the swingweight of your current clubs to any desired swingweight! Match your clubs to your favorite club or your favorite swingweight! Adjustment Calculators provide specific custom instructions for matching & modifying the swingweight of each club without the use of special tools! Bonus Special - Free Golf Club Assembly Plans included! Getting a Golfsmith component catalog for free! Getting a good deal! Choosing clubheads, shafts, & grips! Tools you will need (with Golfsmith part numbers)! Optional tools (with Golfsmith part numbers)! Additional items needed to build graphite clubs (with Golfsmith part numbers)! Steel shaft golf club assembly instructions! Graphite shaft golf club assembly instructions! Recommended books! Recommended software! Golf Clubmaking Software is user-friendly & affordable! Click Below to download the software and your Free assembly instructions now! Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling
Re: ShopTalk: Golf Clubmaking Software ??
I wonder just who is putting out this piece of crap??? And at what cost??? If I were starting any business today i would first hack with the Small Business Administration on how to start up a business, any business. Or just pick our collective brains from this forum, which is most likely what the maker of that CD did, I have never gotten one bad piece of bad info, maybe a differance of opinion, but still not bad from this forum in the 7 years that I had been coming here. And if most of us really don't know there's always Dave T. he knows everything.or at least he thinks he does. RK ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, August 23, 2003 11:30:49 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ShopTalk: Golf Clubmaking Software ?? Namaster for all! Thx a lot by the help some of you is giviing me with the BPlan issue! As soo as i have it finished, I ll share it with who need. Does anyonw knows this software? does it is usefull ? http://www.golfperfect.com/index.htm Golf Clubmaking Software for the professional and amateur clubmaker! Download The Only All-in-One Software for Planning & Building Clubs Now and also receive your Free Bonus Golf Club Assembly Plans! - Now, planning & building custom-fit golf clubs from components is easier than ever! Golfer Use Golf Clubmaking Software on your home computer to: Simulate millions of head, shaft & grip combinations to design your 'perfect' set of clubs! Custom swingweight-match components before you buy them! Adjust the swingweight of any club design by varying its headweight, shaftweight, gripweight, clublength, or shaftlength with the exclusive "What If" feature! Fine-Tune clubs to each other or to any desired swingweight! Custom fit each club based upon your personal measurements & preferences! Sample component and golfer measurements are included for all features! No other software contains the features of Golf Clubmaking Software. And, unlike free calculator programs which may rely on inaccurate generic formulas, Golf Clubmaking Software was developed by master clubmakers & extensively tested using actual clubmaking industry tools & tolerances! - The all-included, user friendly features include: Swingweight Calculators for assembled & unassembled clubs! Clublength Calculators for men's & women's woods, irons, wedges & putter! Gripsize Calculators for men's & women's grips! Swingspeed Calculators for woods & irons! Shaft Flex Calculators for graphite & steel shafts! Adjustment Calculators for custom matching clubs to each other! - You can even Adjust & Match your present golf clubs: Adjust the swingweight of your current clubs to any desired swingweight! Match your clubs to your favorite club or your favorite swingweight! Adjustment Calculators provide specific custom instructions for matching & modifying the swingweight of each club without the use of special tools! Bonus Special - Free Golf Club Assembly Plans included! Getting a Golfsmith component catalog for free! Getting a good deal! Choosing clubheads, shafts, & grips! Tools you will need (with Golfsmith part numbers)! Optional tools (with Golfsmith part numbers)! Additional items needed to build graphite clubs (with Golfsmith part numbers)! Steel shaft golf club assembly instructions! Graphite shaft golf club assembly instructions! Recommended books! Recommended software! Golf Clubmaking Software is user-friendly & affordable! Click Below to download the software and your Free assembly instructions now! Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling
Re: ShopTalk: Stuff you need?
Arnie, you got that right I only have a 7hp / 80 gal compressor but there a times I wish I had a little larger one of course so does Marion. RK ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, August 23, 2003 10:50:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Stuff you need? In a message dated 8/22/03 9:36:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Buy the best tools you can afford. There it is in a nut shell. I would only add "buy the best tool for the job". In clubmaking it would be overkill to have a 10 Hp 100 Gallon compressor! Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling
Re: ShopTalk: Stuff you need?
Right now in my sop I have a room full of Harbor Freight Stuff. . Lets start with my milling machine, it's a 3hp with a 9" x 49 table tht has a 12" x 37" travel, A one shot lub system, harden and ground ways on both the "X" . "Y" , & :"Z" axies it has a 5" spindle travel ead tilts 90* in both directions, plus 45* foreward tilt, It has a power feed on the spindle, plus a handle for quick feed and / or I have installed power feed to the table on it's ""X" & "Y" movements and a heavy duty on the knee, 150 lbs torque. I now have had this machine for over the last 57 years and the total cost for everything ran a little under 5K. My older lathe a !@ x 37" belt drive is still operating even though I have replaced it with a new gear headed machine, In 1986 I purchased it for around $!800.00 and sold it last year for $1300.00, lets see anybody do that on ANY OTHER LATHE. I have purchased heir Powder Miter saw for $109.00 and it still runs very well thank you very much, In fact It works so well That in my new shop set up i have not yet hooked up my Sears 10" Radial arnm saw. I have also purchased the following items which are still running vary well; A 6" X 18" Surface Grinder w/ a 6" X 12" mag table. 12" sander Quick change tooling for my lathe A 8" rotary table for my lathe Heat gun Propane HEAT GUN< Small hand held 17" Table Drill Press This list could go on for just about ever. I have never had one piece of equipment to date fail or have I discarded it because it was not working very well anymore. I love my $5000.00 milling machine which by the way was the machine that built over 350 of my pullers, which are not junk.. The only things I'm going to add to the Milling Machine is a Sony table measuring system.. One of the reasons that bought it from Harbor Freight is because they were the only source at that time that offered a 220 volt single phase motor. If you had a bad relationship with them just call heir customer relations department and i'm more than sure that they will see it you way. RK ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, August 22, 2003 2:03:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Stuff you need? In a message dated 8/22/03 12:15:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Harbor Freight tools are crap!Depends on what you buy! Same about the RK post about Kitts. My 42"belt sanders (3) came from Kitts at $109.99 each of course that was 4 years ago...they are still running!My compressors (3) from Harbor Freight are great have been running from 2-6 years. It's like anything you buy, you have to know what you are looking at and what you are looking for. Then look at the price and decide who gets your business.Some times it helps to ask a person who owns one! Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling
Re: ShopTalk: Stuff you need?
Right on Arnie. One, being a Retired Manufacturing Engineer I know / knew a lot of those places. The one I would cross off of that list though is Kitt, their prices are way over board. Like my new "JET" lathe, they wanted $6750 plus S&H for it when I bought it from a company in OR. state for $5995 plus S&H was free. Same item right down to it's color, white in a tool room loks nice for the first day only. RK ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, August 22, 2003 11:38:42 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Stuff you need? Charlie B and others,Wholesale Tool, ENCO use-enco.com, Harbor Freight, Production Tool, Kitts Industrial Tool, Michigan Industrial Tool. Some of these RK posted and I use them also. Of course, it helps me because I am located in the Detroit, Michigan area where there are many tool suppliers and "surplus sources" to the automotive business. Most have carbide burrs, reamers, drills etc. I found that if you contact Harbor Freight and request a catalog they will send a non ending stream of sales fliers, one of which I posted yesterday as having some tools of interest at sale prices.Arnie Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling
Re: ShopTalk: BeCu
Another thing you can use to clean up those BeCu heads is a Coke Cola, Just put the Coke Cola in a pail and put the clubs init overnite and out come nice and bright and shinny. RK ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, August 21, 2003 9:18:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ShopTalk: BeCu In a message dated 8/21/03 8:50:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: and cleaned up the heat marks with "Simoniz Liquid Chrome Polish" (which works better than "Blue Away, Bartender's Friend," Comet, and most anything else I've tried.)Best procuct ever for removing heat stains is Cameo Stainless Steel and Aluminium cleaner. Available in most Supermarkets. 10-20 year supply costs about $1.79! Sprinkle on wet clothe and just wipe away heat stains. Great for "reconditioning" heads too. Keep your container away from your wife cause it's great for stainless steel cookware and sinks! Let her buy her own supply! If you are a good guy, clean up the sink and cookware and tell her it took you hours and you did it because you love her! Then she won't complain about your club addiction! Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling
Re: ShopTalk: Stuff you need?
Charlie, just for the hell of it i get about 90% of my tools from Wholesale Tool. They have about 5 to 6 stores thru out the mid west and along the atlantic coast line, NC, TEX, Fla, Mass, IND, and their main store is in MICH, other that hem i use ENCO< use-enco.com. where do you live charlie. I own and operats a tool and die shop so i get into plenty of different jobs and things so tools is my bag. RK ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, August 21, 2003 10:26:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Stuff you need? Arnie A few days ago you posted a couple of web sites for tools that were excellent resources, unfortunately my computer went to hell and I lost all of my files could you please re-post. Thanks in advance Charlie B Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling
Re: ShopTalk: Hireko stuff^%%$) News
Yeah They DO RK ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, August 14, 2003 11:18:20 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Hireko stuff^%%$) News In a message dated 8/14/2003 8:08:11 AM Eastern Daylight Time, "Robert Manvell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >I have not been able to post messages for a while so I have to tag onto this posting. Do Hireko have any hot driver heads you guys would recommend? Something that performs well especially long off the tee. >Regards Robert M >Go to http://www.longdrivers.com and see their list of approved clubheads, there are several from Hireko on the list. Frank . Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling
Re: ShopTalk: Loft & lie question
Sorry guys / gals wrong fourm. RK ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 1:40:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Loft & lie question I was told by just every brain doc I've seen that there is approx. 143 different strains of PD and 3 of them, PSP being one, will kill you. RK ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 1:16:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Loft & lie question Dan, I second what Al wrote about the accuracy. You don't need absolute readings as much as you need relative readings. About the stand, since you're looking at setting it into the floor, you might want to think about getting a stand from Mitchell and then making an adapter to fit the Golfsmith machine. That way, when you buy the Mitchell, you already have your stand in place and you can just swap out the machines. Also, when you look at the Mitchells, look into getting a rebuilt one. I got one about 2 years ago and I couldn't tell the difference between it and a brand new one. They're also a lot cheaper. I've got mine bolted to my garage floor and it's solid as a rock. There's not a club made that I can't break with that setup!!! Hope this helps, Mark Al Taylor wrote: > Dan, > I would recommend that you build your stand so that when you have a club in > place, and the bar attached, the grip of the bending bar is about where > your hands would hang, or a bit lower. The reason being that you can > control your pull and push easier with straight arms and use your body > weight to push and legs to pull. ( I think, anyway) > > BTW, no matter what height you mount it, you have to bend over to align the > head in the clamping device. I usually have a chair set in front of the > machine so all I have to do is set the club in place, sit down and align, > tighten, and then stand and bend. Just my system to expedite the process. > > As for checking it's accuracy, there are several club measuring devices > that can check the lie/loft/face angle etc. I use one from Golfsmith. The > reality is that the machine is probably within +/- 1* and you probably have > that much error in slack. Besides, your most critical bends will be > relative to the rest of the clubs. Eg. You will make your dynamic lie > test, bend it the correct number of degrees, take a reading of the new > angle and bend the rest accordingly. Same for the Lofts. Whether the > machine is off a degree or two is less important than whether all the clubs > are correct in relation to one another. > > FWIW, > > Al > > At 09:55 AM 8/20/2003, you wrote: > >I came across a Golfsmith Loft & Lie machine at a > >price I could not pass up. (next one will be a > >Mitchell) > > > >Question: Rather than go through trial and error, at > >what height is best to mount the machine on a stand > >from the floor? I am 5'11" if that helps. > > > >I'm planning on setting it directly to the concrete > >floor. > > > >Also, by what method may I check to make sure that the > >machine is properly calibrated? > > > >TIA > > > >Dan > > > >__ > >Do you Yahoo!? > >Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software > >http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com . Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling
Re: ShopTalk: SA2000
Now I must pay Sales Tax, Bah Hum Bug RK ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 3:21:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ShopTalk: SA2000 I just received a letter from David & Terri with SA200. They have moved and are located in South Caroline. They have joined with another company, CA-Plus and will be expanding. CA-Plus offers over 30 years of experience in the adhesive and sealant market. They have an email address of [EMAIL PROTECTED], web site of www.ca-plus.com and a phone number of 803-798-8661. I have no interest in this business and only provide the information because this has been a continuing subject every few months on this forum. Bruce Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling
Re: ShopTalk: Loft & lie question
I was told by just every brain doc I've seen that there is approx. 143 different strains of PD and 3 of them, PSP being one, will kill you. RK ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 1:16:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Loft & lie question Dan, I second what Al wrote about the accuracy. You don't need absolute readings as much as you need relative readings. About the stand, since you're looking at setting it into the floor, you might want to think about getting a stand from Mitchell and then making an adapter to fit the Golfsmith machine. That way, when you buy the Mitchell, you already have your stand in place and you can just swap out the machines. Also, when you look at the Mitchells, look into getting a rebuilt one. I got one about 2 years ago and I couldn't tell the difference between it and a brand new one. They're also a lot cheaper. I've got mine bolted to my garage floor and it's solid as a rock. There's not a club made that I can't break with that setup!!! Hope this helps, Mark Al Taylor wrote: > Dan, > I would recommend that you build your stand so that when you have a club in > place, and the bar attached, the grip of the bending bar is about where > your hands would hang, or a bit lower. The reason being that you can > control your pull and push easier with straight arms and use your body > weight to push and legs to pull. ( I think, anyway) > > BTW, no matter what height you mount it, you have to bend over to align the > head in the clamping device. I usually have a chair set in front of the > machine so all I have to do is set the club in place, sit down and align, > tighten, and then stand and bend. Just my system to expedite the process. > > As for checking it's accuracy, there are several club measuring devices > that can check the lie/loft/face angle etc. I use one from Golfsmith. The > reality is that the machine is probably within +/- 1* and you probably have > that much error in slack. Besides, your most critical bends will be > relative to the rest of the clubs. Eg. You will make your dynamic lie > test, bend it the correct number of degrees, take a reading of the new > angle and bend the rest accordingly. Same for the Lofts. Whether the > machine is off a degree or two is less important than whether all the clubs > are correct in relation to one another. > > FWIW, > > Al > > At 09:55 AM 8/20/2003, you wrote: > >I came across a Golfsmith Loft & Lie machine at a > >price I could not pass up. (next one will be a > >Mitchell) > > > >Question: Rather than go through trial and error, at > >what height is best to mount the machine on a stand > >from the floor? I am 5'11" if that helps. > > > >I'm planning on setting it directly to the concrete > >floor. > > > >Also, by what method may I check to make sure that the > >machine is properly calibrated? > > > >TIA > > > >Dan > > > >__ > >Do you Yahoo!? > >Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software > >http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com . Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling
Re: ShopTalk: Congratulations
Arnie, very well put, very well. Most people forget that in other sports the guy(s) are complaining about everything but their playing. But there is always one player that stands head and shoulders above most of the rest of the pack and in my opinion it's Tiger & Michael Jordan. RK ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 11:52:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Congratulations In a message dated 8/18/03 7:55:11 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anyway, back to Tiger He's playing in an event with 1 or 2 other tour pros, and on a tee he knows based on the sound of the impact that his playing partner mishit his teeshot. When the mishit ends up 290+ yds out there and is still in the fairway, what else would you expect Tiger to think but that the club's illegal.Although I did not make the original statement about the equipment debate and Tiger Wood's comments I would only say the following. Tiger Woods is an extremely talented player, a refreshing personality, a product of good parenting skills and pleasant in appearance (quick smile, well spoken, and a good example for children).Compared to some professional athletes in other sports this guy is a well finished gem! Not a rapist, wife beater, bar brawler, killer or a tattooed goofball! His tour performance is surely news worthy. And herein lies the problem.. because of his outstanding record on the course he is a TARGET for reporters, jock sniffers, and others who may be jealous of his accomplishments. Because of his high profile, I would suggest that he temper his remarks about equipment, rules, tournament schedules, test criteria etc. This only provides ammunition for detractors. Success demands additional responsibility and some of his remarks or reports of his remarks cast a shadow on his sense of responsibility.I offer my congratulations to anyone's fine accomplishments. Not just Tiger Woods! I have enjoyed the recognition any fine player brings to the game. I doubt that any excellent player can judge the technology in the equipment by sound, feel or anything else other than the use of very sophisticated scientific testing equipment. For a player to claim otherwise makes that player less credible and irresponsible IMHO.Arnie Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling
Re: ShopTalk: Congratulations
Hey Arnie could I say that the shaft that he used was extracted from the head with my puller. RK ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:04:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Congratulations I would vote for you Arnie, but I'm running too, and must vote for myself. :-) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > The man is everywhere and nowhere at all. > > Simply amazing. > > You are absolutely right! > > Because Absolute Golf Factory does not pay for endorsements or share in > the winnings, we cannot say players' clubs were fitted or built here. > > The above statement is absolutely true! What part of it would YOU > like to believe? > > Every winner wears a Rolex Watch. Why? Because the Rolex Watch Company > gives the player one! Then they pay the player and present this > picture to the general public. > If I buy a Rolex will I be a winner in a golf tournament? Will I have > contributed to the financial kitty to give players watches and support > the endorsement fees? You bet your bippy I paid for this! Does it make > the watch any better? No, but the watch made the golfer play better! > And I want to play better. Yeah right. > > This is the type of marketing that our industry thrives on. If a > winner wears a shirt with your logo you can send a congratulatory > message read by the general public and many will think the win was > because of the shirt and will run out to purchase one! Only catch is > they give all the players a shirt. If the player chooses not to wear > the shirt and doesn't win the only thing the shirt company lost was > one shirt. If the player wears a shirt given to him and he wins, the > company wins big in the sales area. If the winner doesn't choose to > wear the shirt given to him there's always another tournament! > > > Because Absolute Golf Factory does not pay for endorsements or share in > the winnings, we cannot say players' clubs were fitted or built here. > > Think what you like. I build good golf clubs but because Absolute Golf > Factory does not pay for endorsements or share in > the winnings, we cannot say players' clubs were fitted or built here. > > Smile, life is just a barrel of laughs and GOLF spelled backwards is FLOG. > Don't let the game beat you! > > Vote for me in the California Governors Race! . Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling
Re: ShopTalk: (OT) Blackout (was Alternate Windows Update site)
The Cleveland Clubmaker , if you wish to call him that so be it, still makes, now I understand that the younger clubmakers will not understand just what the hell I'm talking about, but this guy still makes "WOOD WOOD's. No I'm not talking about Metal woods I'm talking about drivers made from wood. I think that he got the wood from the river that had caught on fire, no folks I'm not talking through my hat & yes the river had water in it. This is the same Clubmaker, LOL, that took advantage of me in my ill condition to make a bet with me and refused to give me strokes, BAD Al T. BAD.then after beating me for the whole 18 holes laughed at me and FORCED me to buy him a beer. RK ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, August 17, 2003 1:35:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ShopTalk: (OT) Blackout (was Alternate Windows Update site) In a message dated 8/16/03 4:27:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How many here were affected by the blackout?This has been most interesting in many ways. Good news is that thaere have been no reports of increases in robberies, looting, riots, etc. No road rage at "four way stops" caused by lack of traffic lights. Supermarkets, gas stations, comvience stores sold out6 of bottled water and everything that was lost do to lack of refrigeration. Many restaurants "clearance sold" food that would have been spoiled and disgarded. Fun for most people! The bad news is gas prices jumped up and everyone "had to fill up". The worst to come from this is unending "news" reports of "who's to blame for this". Who cares, it's over! I know who is responsible. It's a clubmaker near Cleveland, Ohio who over loaded the system by using a heat gun, chop saw, two or three belt sanders, several electric drills, buffers, frequency machines and compressors all at the same time! SHAME ON YOU! No excuses. I don't care if you had to produce all those left handed clubs for the Canadian market! Oh, maybe we should blame it on Canadian Left Handed Players?The worst thing to come out of this event is going to be a spike in the birth rate sometime in April 2004! This is bad because these kids won't be contributing to my Social Security, healthcare needs and club demands for at least 18 to 20 years.Oh well, life goes on.Arnie Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling
Re: ShopTalk: (OT) Blackout (was Alternate Windows Update site)
AS a side note Len / all When WE lived in The Detroit area we had a gas refrig. Which if our elecrtic went out our staeks never thawed. Hell our Marion's Relatives, my inlaws, would bring their meats and other stuff over. Mu brother-in-law was a butcher at A&P's talk about chowing down. RK ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, August 16, 2003 4:38:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ShopTalk: (OT) Blackout (was Alternate Windows Update site) How many here were affected by the blackout?Toronto is still affected by rotating blackouts and I know of at least 1 person in the GTA who still has not had power connected. I just got home for the first time since the power came back on the first time and am cleaning out my fridge, tossing most of it unfortunately! Just as fortunate that my fridge is darn near emply most of the time anyway! (Life of a bachelorette... LOL)We didn't lose water here (where I stayed with a friend) but had no landline phone for 24+ hours. My cellular didn't work either but theirs did (different providers/networks I guess). Toronto subway and streetcars are still not operational but buses and trains are resuming their routes. It's been interesting!!! : )Golfing tomorrow thank god, haven't played much this year. Built (lazily) a new set of clubs - removed my snake eyes TC01 from my rifle 5.0's and put on the Dynacraft 1030CV's I bought when they cleared them out in March. I want to eventually use them with graphite shafts but haven't the time nor money to do that properly right now. I was going to fix a few things on the SE's and decided what the heck, may as well put the new heads on instead and try 'em out. I checked the swingweights only - laziness as I said - and built them as-is, only adjusting for consistent swingweight. They are heavier, D0 to D1 whereas the SE were C8 to C9. I didn't think that would work for me but I am hitting them better and I *really* like the way they set up. Have a tournament next Saturday then the Ont Mid Am the week after (Brian Agar - saw that your wife is playing too... ) then another tourney the week after that for a one day thing --- maybe it was the right decision to change the heads after all now that I am hitting these a bit more consistently! : )Jen[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I started to update my windows (actually not necessary with 98 Version) when the electricity went out yesterday afternoon! It sure produced a "new outlook". Went home and emptied the refrigerator as did my neighbors. Had a big block party! Out came the Coleman lanterns and Citronella candles and we talked well into the night. Got the power back in the store this morning but no water. Oh well, now business stinks as much as I do! The camping trip is almost over, hope I've got electricity at home and water too. Washing with GoJo and Fast Orange is gritty business. Guess I'll just go to the lake and swim with a bar of Dial.Arnie Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling
Re: ShopTalk: 42" belt sanders
JUST remember after you have turned and polished the ferrule put a small amount of acetone on a clean rag and gently wipe the ferrule. RK ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, August 16, 2003 1:34:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ShopTalk: 42" belt sanders In a message dated 8/16/03 11:15:18 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you have a 1" ferrule, it is real easy to screw it up with the 1" belt...Here is the trick so that you don't screw it up.Start by turning down the ferrule where it meets the hosel when that is done, keep turning the head and move toward the top of the hosel in 3-4 rotations of the head. Done. No need to tape the shaft or the hosel (some people do this thinking the hosel will get scratched). Key is to keep rotating the head in the proper direction (you will know if direction is wrong...ferrule will "burn") while applying moderate pressure against the moving belt.Machine speed doesn't matter ... pressure and rotation will compensate for different machine speeds. I find a total of 5-7 rotations does the job. Also, build yourself a turning jig to rest the shaft in two places. Nothing improves club appearance more than a well turned ferrule! And a properly aligned grip. But that's another subject. Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling
RE: ShopTalk: 42" belt sanders
Royce, you can get any length, any width and any grit that you wish. Just got to your local, it's a lots better than trying to explain it over the phone to some sales clerk that in all likely hood does not know what the hell you really want. Or you can call Norton and one of their sales clerk, a lot different that the local hardware store clerk, will take your order as to just exactly what you want, yes even the 1" x 2" belt that you were talking about at the beginning of your post. But in all likely hood what will happen, no problem to you, will be they will take your order, I think that there is a min of 50 piece's of each size & grit. And then "THEY" will assign it, your order, to the best local sales rep in your area.. You see no matter who takes the order or who knows just exactly what you want their sales rep has got to get paid for all of the work that they, the local sales office, never did. Oh by the way I think that Norton is around Bay City Michigan, my last order with them was through Production Tool in Madison Heights Michigan. RK ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, August 15, 2003 11:00:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ShopTalk: 42" belt sanders It should be intuitively obvious to even the most casual observer, but a 2" sander will also drive a 1" belt, but not vice versa. The advantage of using a 2" linen belt (the red one) is that it is perfect for turning "long" ferrules. If you have a 1" ferrule, it is real easy to screw it up with the 1" belt...the 2" belt makes it a piece of cake. You do have to protect graphite shafts and/or paint on hosels, but you should probably do that anyway. A single wrap of painter's masking tape (the blue stuff) does the trick and is easy to get off. Now if I could only find 2"x42" surface conditioning belts And finally...the old myth about Craftsman belt sanders not working because they run at 3750 rpm unlike the others that run at 1725 is incorrect. The drive wheel on the Craftsman is smaller so the actual belt speed in fps is pretty similar. Royce -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 1:28 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: ShopTalk: 42" belt sandersG1013Combination Sander 1" x 42" Belt - 8" Disc $129.95 Grizzly.comIncludes motor8" disc is good for sanding angle on bore through shaft tips.For clubbuilders leave off the "table" when assembling. This will leave room for head to turn when turning a ferrule. Also Enco has the 42" Kalamazoo sander on sale for about $149 This is the optimum machine usual cost $280-$360 from clubmaker supply companies!1 X 42" 1/3HP 1PH KALAMAZOO BELT SANDER $148.95 encotools.com Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling
Re: Re: ShopTalk: Stirring the pot....
As I recall about the spring of 2001 a "MAJOR" Clubmaker, rumored to be TM,had approx. 10K of new designed Ti heads made in China. They then submitted them to the USGA as required. But the USGA in their hurry to hit "US Home Shop Clubmakers" with illegal head that they never got around to testing the heads from the "MAJOR" supplier, Contributor" until the fall / winter of 2001 after all were built up and distributed and next to impossible to relocate so the USGA allowed this "MAJOR CONTRUBITOR" to sell their wears . Of course my memory isn't what it used to be because as I recall Al T> was going to give me 18 strokes per side if I got the brain operation, but you know how us old folk are we do get things wrong every once in a while. RK ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 11:16:27 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re: ShopTalk: Stirring the pot Pat, >They claim he can accurately identify the current crop of hot faced drivers vs older models (without looking at them) by listening to the sound they make as he rubs the sole on the grass. Certainly a simpler test than the one which the USGA has come up with. :-) Bernie Writeto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling
ShopTalk: Good News and Bad (@!$#%^&*&^%$#%^&*&^%%$) News
Well just got home from Atlanta and the Emory Health Clinic where I was given a lot of good news, I do Not Have Parkinson's Disease. But they, now when I say They I'm talking about two of their best brain Doc's and their Assistants Now these two are not your run of the mill Brain Doc Their two of the best that Emory has, And that dear hearts is the truth no joke. They both tested me individually and they both concluded that no PD and NO PSP Either, but their thinking is also out to lunch over this item. I move my eyes like a normal person would and all of my joints less my neck, are not rigid like a person that has PSP, but lets not forget the Bad ($%#^&^%$&**%$#@@&*^) News. I am not ever going to be allowed to have a DBS, unless I wish to perform the operation my self Their reasoning is this, since the meds will not help me out and since after I stop taking the PD meds I do not return to the state I was in before I started the PD meds. A DBS at its worst is the very same as you presently are in life on meds no meds, "AND" could make you better, but if no meds are involued the chance of you "FEELING BETTER" is a thousand to one shot.It's just like you eating some ice cream and your sister, always hated my older sister so lets just make it her for this example ok, and wanting some of your ice cream and saying "when I get my ice cream later I'll pay you back" but later when she gets her ice cream she tells you go get lost that your not getting any of hers. so you are lost not only do you not get your to eat your ice cream but you lost part of the ice cream that you gave her. Now think about this happening ever two to three weeks. Pretty soon all of your ice creams gone forever and your left with the nuts. So now you have the Whole Story. RK Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling
Re: ShopTalk: Bush and Unemployement
Hey Arnie, the kid wouldn't just happen to be your offspring would he That is just about the way I led my life. I quit school in the 9 th grade mainly because I thought that I needed more of a challenge then what I was getting, that was long before the school systems, back in Al T court, allowed a student to move up to the next grade. But I really don't think I did to badly, retired as a self taught Manufacturing Engineer From Ford. I can still remember my old math teacher saying, if you quit school you'll be lucky to earn a 100K in your lifetime, when I left Ford in late 1993 I was earning $85K/ year and my best year if you count my total income was just over $125K/ year, and that was with out Marion's income from her job at Chrysler Corp. Not too bad for a high school drop out. Oh yeah by the way I never ever ask Ford for a job they looked me up. Why would Ford Motor do that, because I'm "REAL GOOD" at what I do. RK ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, August 03, 2003 1:11:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Bush and Unemployement In a message dated 8/2/03 6:56:52 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Now, can anyone tell me what stiffness of shaft I should use for a 61 year old male with a swing speed of 80? He desires to produce the maximum distance while maintaining maximum accuracy. The club head is a Biggest Big Bertha ( 9°) and he wants to use a Winn grip.I presented this question to a young man who worked in my shop through his high school years and he answered in the following manner.1. With what club does the golfer achieve 80 MPH swing speed?2. What was the shaft flex of this club?3. What are his ball flight characteristics?4. Why is it necessary to state "he wants to use a Winn Grip"?5. There's something missing from the original questions!To # 5 I asked him "What do you mean?"His answers are as follows:1. The golfer should be tested with clubs of different shaft stiffnesses. Starting with a shaft that is most likely too stiff. Get the average clubhead speed. Now go to a slightly more flexible shaft and get an average clubhead speed. If the speed increased go to another shaft again slightly more flexible. Proceed until the clubhead speed drops. Back up to the peak clubhead speed and confirm that the peak clubhead speed is again attained! That's the shaft flex to use! Disregard # 2 since we just found out what flex is needed. Number 3 is of some importance since the golfer has a 9 degree driver head. If the ball flight is too low select a shaft with a lower kick point to induce higher ball flight. If ball flight is high select a shaft with a higher kick point to induce lower ball flight.I responded, "Good answers!" He added "I would like to see his current grip to observe grip wear that might indicate a gripping or swing flaw." Also, "check the grip size" My response "Nice work." He answers "Thanks." He says "Oh, by the way what length will this club be ?" Good question!!! He then says "You know that with the Biggest Big Bertha head the shaft will become one half flex stiffer because of the bore through hosel" I answer "Yup" and I think "Man, did I teach this kid well."Now the rest of the storyI showed him your post and he observed the subject Bush and unemployment and asked to read the other responses..His summation was the absolute high spot of my week! He told me that he believes that too many people have lost "the American Spirit of can do" In your various posts requesting sources of books on fitting and building clubs you have been helpfully guided to the sources of information. It appears that you did not procure the books or did not read them. This behavior is a contributing factor to "unemployment." You want someone else to do the thinking work. When they do the work you will be the first to complain about the state of your employment. Get to work, YOU CAN DO it. Or did you lose "self reliance" too? No more "charity"!Tmason, The young man I spoke about above is intelligent (National Honor Society and Dean's List in just completed freshman year)), hard working (40+ hrs./wk.as a college student), sincere, honest, reliable, charitable, generous, considerate, thoughtful, focused, popular, a mentor to younger children and a fine golfer, baseball player, basketball player who sings in his church and school choir, and a gourmet cook to boot! Good parents who I would like to discuss "cloning" with. I forgot to mention he is extremely polite, an attribute I lose when I read questions like yours above!Always glad to help,ArnieP.S. Blood pressure has now returned to normal, thanks. Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling
Re: ShopTalk: Bush and Unemployement
Tom, I stand right behind you on this issue. But where were you & I when the Japanese's did the very same thing to our TV industry. I don't know what you were doing but I sure know what I was doing, sitting around in sunny Southern Calif watching a 13" Japanese's TV. It was nice, small, cheap, I paid just $65.00 out the door. I never thought for one minute that w/in 15 years they would be doing the same thing to our auto industry and that was with our and their governments's blessing. Hell when I went to work Ford Motor in July of 1979 the USA auto industry was going out of business. We were fighting not only Japan but we were fighting the same old people that is running our government right now. If anybody is so naive to believe that George W Bush is not lining his pockets and the pockets of all his kids and his cronies also? Anybody that thinks otherwise is a complete idiot. And who is behind all of this, George W, hell he has to ask Dick Cheney as to just what day it is to just what to say and when to say it. I believe it's the WTO that is behind all of this. The ones that I feel bad for is the very next generation because they will be the very first generation in the history of our way of living that will not be able to live as well as their parents. Now just think what I just said the very "First Generation" that will not be able to buy a home, a VCR, a new American built car not one of those Japanese home grown piece's of crap but a true American built vehicle's.If anybody has even a thought that they want a Camry or a Honda that they are buying an American made vehicle, is lying to themselves, think for one minute, a Camry has only 36% local content. Which means that the Toyota Camry has only a true local content is 18% because 18% of all cars / trucks no matter how much material or how much assembly labor goes into the vehicle it comes to 18%. Honda has a Whopping 55% local content which is the best of all the foreign built vehicle for local content. But if you have been really watching and listening real close when the Camry vehicle ad's come on the radio or the TV they do not say any more about their "BEST IN CLASS" quality, which by the way is shared by two (2) American Car companies, Ford AND Chrysler corp. It might of taken a few more years then we wanted but we are fighting back. RK Oh by the way most American built vehicles have at least a 90% local content. And if anybody wishes me to give them a local content for most of Ford Motor's engine parts i can do that and boy will they be surprised ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, August 01, 2003 9:51:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Bush and Unemployement Dr Tutelman;I don't mean to be maudlin but let me ask this (and I hope for one of yourtypically "reasoned" responses."Suppose your son is working in the tech field and he dearly loves his job.Suppose further that your son learns that he's going to train hisreplacement, who comes from another country. Further still, suppose thetrainee semi-learns the job and then returns to his country where your son'sjob has been transferred to. Then, you son loses his job, and can't findanother in the same field because the foreign country has usurped the field.Finally, suppose your son becomes destitute to the point where he can't goon any longer.Would any of that scenario cause you to consider that the exportation ofAmerican tech jobs is an absolutely terrible fact of tech life?Please do not respond with platitudes. My wife and I have been living anightmare caused in large part by the very fact of exported jobs. We lost ason in large part as a result of these awful programs (h1b, L1, NAFTA,et.al.)Sorry to say, I voted for GW. Now, after having observed him in action, Ibelive he's a complete fool. A dunderhead. I'm anxiously awaiting our nextpresidential election so I can vote for someone else.Our government is screwing us and we're making philosophical excuses forthem.TFlan- Original Message -From: "Dave Tutelman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 2:58 PMSubject: Re: ShopTalk: Bush and Unemployement> Ed Reeder,> First off, thanks for the link to PPI. Just got up from ROTFLMAO. While it> is inherently no laughing matter, it was only a matter of time before> somebody would find some humor in it.>> And thanks for the link to the IEEE web site. I did use it to email the> president. Here is the contents of my note:>> "In my software development work, I have been involved with two different> types of export of jobs. In neither case was the competence of US workers> inferior:>> "(1) The entire development was "shipped offshore" to Russia, and the> specification and testing was done by the old [stateside] workers. Those> workers' experience was that the software developed by the Russians was> decidedly inferior to the work they were used to from the in
RE: ShopTalk: Driver for the 'ole Man
Jack , now your clubs are talking to you, my brain doc has a few open times . If you want I'll make and appointment for you??? RK ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, August 01, 2003 9:31:51 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ShopTalk: Driver for the 'ole Man I would highly recommend the Wishon 915CFE in either 11 or (the new) 14*with a Wishon ZT Series shaft. First driver I have found in 4 years thatdoes what it says!!!Jack-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of ddpnSent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 2:20 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: ShopTalk: Driver for the 'ole ManI've got this 74 year old customer, er... Dad, who finally wants to try oneof those "weird looking" (350cc+) whiz-bang Ti drivers that everyone elsein his foursome is using to outdrive him. Naturally, he comes to the guywho will never hear the end of it if the new club fails to perform up toexpectations... the Kid.So, in an effort to help ensure familial harmony, I seek the wisdom andguidance of those who may have walked this path before me... y'all!So, here's the situation. The 'ole Man:1) Will not consider a LONG driver (Bernie Style)2) Was occasionally a scratch, but usually a 3-handicapper in earlier times3) Usually grips down on the club3a) Says he likes the length of a 42" (very comfortable for him) driverhe has in the stable4) Tends to presently send 'em out around 220-225 yds. with a Callaway10* R graphite shafted steel head driver5) Doesn't want anything over 400cc6) Normally very accurate, but exhibiting a fade tendency as of late7) Isn't crying about trajectory being too low8) Wants a finished product as light as possible (probably sub.As possible head candidates, I have looked at the specs of the new:1) GS Jetstream Black Box (380cc, 10* loft, 58* lie, 55mm face ht.)2) Wishon Nightfire (355cc, 11* loft, 58* lie, 56mm face ht.)3) Wishon 915CFE (360cc, 10.5* loft, 56* lie, 53mm face ht.)Shaft wise, I don't believe he is yet a candidate for an Active flex,although certainly the margin has narrowed. As a result, I'll likelycontinue using something in the "R" flex range. However, I will ask if anyof you have taken note of any stand-out shafts for the senior men who aredealing with the expected distance loss.Suggestions, anyone??Thanks!Tom Mishler. Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling
Re: ShopTalk: Was LDC; is, real life
Hey Mickey Al's making fun of you again. RK ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 4:47:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Was LDC; is, real life Well a couple of items arise. First of all, owning the Dell, and needing service now, I have little choice whom I talk to when I dial the number. I did have many major service calls that included partitioning, reformatting and reinstalling all the software. Second, it was very rare that I ran into anyone I couldn't understand perfectly. There was one once, but don't recall any others. Third, I can get the same poor service your reference right here in the States without even trying. I was very impressed with the Indian techs' knowledge and skills. Fourth, maybe my ears are better tuned to foreign accents due to my travels, but it doesn't seem that would be a necessary talent. There are some groups of American born folks that I can't understand most of the words they speak.At 11:28 AM 7/30/2003, you wrote: In a message dated 7/29/03 10:30:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When you call Dell computers for tech support, especially at night, you will most likely be linked via satellite to India to one of their 4 current centers, each with ~400 employees. Depending on my patience I either hang up or struggle for hours to understand non American English! I cannot understand how a company thinks so little of it's image to hire telephone personnel who can't be understood by their customers! Bad at any price is still bad. Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling
ShopTalk: WTO & USA Job Market,
ALL, when I retired form Ford Motor They hired 2 MBA's to do the work that I was doing.,now i'm not bragging on my self i'm just trying to show what our people are going through. when they hired these two new MBA's they got them real cheap. When I retired in 1993 i was making about 80K with my benfits added on it came to some wheres around $103K They hire these new just out of school kids for about $32K but their bennies we almost non existace no sick pay for the first year, vs my 21 sick /year, sick pay for 5 half days for the next 4 years, vacation 5 days the first 5 years then it's two weeks & and then 3 weeks for the very next 5 years for as long as you work there. I gotthree weeks vacation right off the get go.one reason I was in a lot different position because they went after me, I never applied for any job at Ford Motor,. then after 5 years I got 4 weeks then it went to 5 weeks. in reality they got 2 highly educated young people for one curmugging as At says. We got to talking as i was teaching them their job as to just how much i made and what paygrade i was. I told them that with the econicat factors in place that they would never reach my pay platoe it took them about 10 to 15 minutes to work it out that what i was saying was true My wife Marion got about the same thing happing over at Chrysler Corp. Marion 's pay was $48K for being a sect, but they only hired one person, what they really did was hired a kelly girl and let the department help carry the load. RK Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling
RE: ShopTalk: Was LDC; is, real life
come on now who are you gw. RK ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 6:24:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ShopTalk: Was LDC; is, real life Hey you guys, I enjoy your posts about golf clubs because you know what you are talking about. That is not the case when you talk about "exporting jobs" and inveigh against free trade. This is the kind of cr*p you hear from scurrilous politicians trying to dupe us into voting for them. World capital is not flowing to countries with low wage rates, but is disproportionately coming here - because of our skilled labor and management, because of people like you. We benefit from free trade - in fact all participants usually benefit. Here is a good though long article on 'comparative advantage,' which explains the notion and why it is counter-intuitive: http://internationalecon.com/v1.0/ch40/40c000.html Here's another perspective dealing with manufacturing: http://www.heritage.org/Research/TradeandForeignAid/BG1561.cfm And another one dealing with the myth that the trade deficit is somehow a bad thing for us: http://www.heritage.org/Press/Commentary/ed022503a.cfm My three cents. Get your cannons ready...I've got the garbage-can lid over my backside. L. Hunter Kevil -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 2:12 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Was LDC; is, real lifeIn a message dated 7/29/03 11:31:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But as offshore workers graduate from basic jobs to more sophisticatedtechnology work, critics here wonder if there will be high-paying, high-techjobs left in the United States.This is the major problem. We are not talking about American jobs as basket weavers moving over seas! As third world basket weavers get some money, a shack with running water and indoor plumbing and something more than a bicycle for transportation their jobs get exported to another poorer country and they get into destroying the American high tech industries!Just heard today on the radio that India is attracting Silicon Valley jobs! And I thought that all that could be produced there were cheap hammers, screwdrivers and one time use wrenches along with shirts that shrink in the first wash and colors that run faster than Bin Laden. Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling
Re: ShopTalk: Was LDC; is, real life
sounds a lot like the work of the "WTO". RK ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 7:39:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Was LDC; is, real life - Original Message - From: Kevil, L H. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 3:01 PM Subject: RE: ShopTalk: Was LDC; is, real life Hey you guys, I enjoy your posts about golf clubs because you know what you are talking about. That is not the case when you talk about "exporting jobs" and inveigh against free trade. This is the kind of cr*p you hear from scurrilous politicians trying to dupe us into voting for them. World capital is not flowing to countries with low wage rates, but is disproportionately coming here - because of our skilled labor and management, because of people like you. We benefit from free trade - in fact all participants usually benefit. Here is a good though long article on 'comparative advantage,' which explains the notion and why it is counter-intuitive: http://internationalecon.com/v1.0/ch40/40c000.html Here's another perspective dealing with manufacturing: http://www.heritage.org/Research/TradeandForeignAid/BG1561.cfm And another one dealing with the myth that the trade deficit is somehow a bad thing for us: http://www.heritage.org/Press/Commentary/ed022503a.cfm My three cents. Get your cannons ready...I've got the garbage-can lid over my backside. L. Hunter Kevil -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 2:12 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Was LDC; is, real lifeIn a message dated 7/29/03 11:31:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But as offshore workers graduate from basic jobs to more sophisticatedtechnology work, critics here wonder if there will be high-paying, high-techjobs left in the United States.This is the major problem. We are not talking about American jobs as basket weavers moving over seas! As third world basket weavers get some money, a shack with running water and indoor plumbing and something more than a bicycle for transportation their jobs get exported to another poorer country and they get into destroying the American high tech industries!Just heard today on the radio that India is attracting Silicon Valley jobs! And I thought that all that could be produced there were cheap hammers, screwdrivers and one time use wrenches along with shirts that shrink in the first wash and colors that run faster than Bin Laden. Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling
Re: ShopTalk: Was LDC; is, real life
but Tom he can land a jet fighter on an aircraft carrier. And I going to be the next president. RK ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 6:06:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Was LDC; is, real life - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] You said ; "Just heard today on the radio that India is attracting Silicon Valley jobs!" Thanks the media for that little oversight. This isn't new stuff. Its been around for years. Blue collar jobs have been disappearing for as long as I can remember, and now, Tech workers in the Silicon Valley have been raped for at least a couple of years. Concord, CA, where my son worked, is in the SV. His company has "outsourced' close to 1100 jobs from that general area alone. Add to that the huge number of other companies doing the same thing and you come up with hundreds of thousands of folks out of work. I know personally 4 guys who've been unable to find tech work for from a year to as high as 3 years. Its easy to say to them that they should take whatever they can get. Unfortunately, there simply isn't anything there. One of the guys got a part-time job in a bookstore. $6.75 per hours, 30 hours per week. We can blame industry I suppose, but more than that, we can look to our government. NAFTA, h1b, and L1 are job stealing legislations passed buy a Republican congress, a Democrat and Republican president, and in general, a legislative body that combined doesn't have a clue as to what they're doing to America. Its a goddam shame! TFlan Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling
Re: ShopTalk: Was LDC; is, real life
Thanks Tom. RK ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:50:33 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Was LDC; is, real life I've been reading the vitriol a lot of you good folks have been trading re;Sam's Club, Wal-Mart, et.al. Well, here's what's really happening with nobullshit attached. This is from a news article for which I was interviewed afew months ago. I had no intention of ever sending this kind of stuff tothis forum, but since somebody broke the ice, so to speak, maybe this willhelp a lot of you to understand what's really been happening in America forquite a few years.If this isn't enough, take a look at www.nomoreh1b.com. If anyone's trulyinterested in this stuff, there are more websites and newpaper articles.There are untold thousands of jobs lost here, and thousands of familiesruined. My family was absolutely devastated in large part as a result ofjobs being lost to foreign countries.Sorry if this is too hard to take. I'm just now learning to deal with it.TFlanPosted on Tue, May. 13, 2003Job losses sap morale of workersBy Ellen LeeCONTRA COSTA TIMESIn his oldest son's Pleasant Hill home, Tom Flanagan occasionally curses ashe walks through the halls and gathers his son Kevin's belongings: theblack-and-white photos his son developed in his makeshift darkroom, thehousehold products he had a tendency to buy in bulk, the box-loads of bookson computer programming.More than once, Flanagan shakes his head. "It's a shame," he says. "We losta good friend and a good mind."One month ago, Kevin Flanagan took his life in the parking lot of Bank ofAmerica's Concord Technology Center, on the afternoon after he was told hehad lost his job.It was "the straw that broke the camel's back," his father said, even thoughthe 41-year-old software programmer suspected it was coming. He knew thathis employer, Bank of America Corp., like other giant corporationsweathering the economic storm, was cutting high-tech jobs. He knew that Bankof America was sending jobs overseas. He had seen his friends and coworkersleave until only he and one other person remained on the last projectFlanagan worked on.Flanagan took steps to soften the blow. He considered studying law, and evenmade a list of California schools he was interested in researching. Heapplied for other jobs at the bank, but didn't receive responses.In e-mails to his father, Flanagan sounded lighthearted. "I'm safe!" hewould write in his Friday missives. "I'm safe for another week."But Flanagan apparently masked the depth of the distress he felt as hefought to save his position. "He felt like he was fighting a largecorporation that pretty much didn't care," his father said. "This final blowwas so devastating. He couldn't deal with it." The father said he saw noother signs of depression before his son's suicide.It is unclear if Flanagan lost his job because it had been sent overseas, orbecause the bank was slimming down because of the tight economy. LisaGagnon, a Bank of America spokeswoman, declined to comment, saying, "We'redeeply saddened by this tragedy. We send our prayers to his friends,colleagues and family."But his death underscores the anxiety that has swelled among technologyworkers at Bank of America and elsewhere as more businesses shift high-techjobs and responsibilities to contractors offshore even as they cut jobs inthe United States.A report by Forrester Research projects that, led by theinformation-technology industry, 3.3 million service jobs and $136 billionin wages will move from the United States to such countries as India andRussia over the next decade or so.Another survey by A.T. Kearney said that U.S. financial-services companiesare planning to send overseas 8 percent of their workforces, thus savingthem more than $30 billion.Coupled with a rough economy and high unemployment, the phenomenon has leftU.S. workers looking over their shoulders, wondering if their overseascounterparts could soon replace them. Blue-collar manufacturing jobs havefor years crossed U.S. borders and waters. Some workers are bitter thatwhite-collar, high-paying technology jobs are next."It could be me," said a Bank of America information-technology employee whospoke on the condition of anonymity. "It could be anybody."Flanagan's parents say that he complained about the company's move to shiftjobs out of the United States and talked about taking care of problems thatcontractors in India couldn't solve."Outsourcing has led to tragedy for us," said Tom Flanagan. "We aredevastated."Flanagan landed at Bank of America seven years ago after spending time at aSan Francisco technology company and at ChevronTexaco Corp.The Concord Technology Center, a cluster of four buildings that opened in1985, employs programmers such as Flanagan to develop software programs thathandle jobs like wire transfers. Throughout the Bay Area, the bank employssome 13,400 workers; the bank would not release the number of workers at
Re: ShopTalk: RE: shoptalk: Epoxy for LDC Pro's
hey AlT your not cheap you are thrifty and cheap.last time AlT even saw Pom Perignon. RK ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, July 28, 2003 11:45:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ShopTalk: RE: shoptalk: Epoxy for LDC Pro's Dang it. The '93 Dom Perignon is $90 here, not the $80 mentioned in thearticle. Guess I'll stick to my 30 pack of $16 Miller Lite and my $38 bottleof Jose Cuervo Anjejo.Cub- Original Message - From: "Ed Reeder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 1:37 PMSubject: Re: ShopTalk: RE: shoptalk: Epoxy for LDC Pro's> FWIW - Costco buys more wine than any other company in the U.S.>> And it isn't just cheap wine:>http://www.time.com/time/globalbusiness/article/0,9171,1101021028-366290,00.html>> /Ed>> sean weijand wrote:>> > YOU CAN BUY LIQOUR AT COSTCO???> >> > Bloody hell! The best we can do at a Canadian Costco is chinese cooking> > wine. ; (> >> > sean weijand> >> >> >> >> > On Saturday, July 26, 2003, at 03:51 PM, Steve "Cub" Culbreth wrote:> >> > RK,> >> > Sig. you're right. Lack of booze must have driven me out of> > my mind. For a moment I forgot about the blazing river. In fact, I> > hate to say it, Al could be right again when he says I'm not> > drinking enough :-( So hi ho it's off to Costco for liquor I> > go!!! ;-)> >> > Cub>>>. Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling
Re: ShopTalk: Question re: Epoxy in Shaft (Was: Epoxy for LDC Pro's)
Hey Al, just what in the hell is the "BIG DAVE trying to pull now. You know it sure is funny but since I blocked The BIG DAVE from my inbox I hear from just about most clubmakers on his latest asinine answers every time someone asks a question and I post an answer to that person's question the "BIG DAVE" has got some fool-hearted answer to try and make me look bad and that I really don't know what I talking about. Just to make myself clear BIG DAVE before I got sick I most likely built more clubs / Drivers / and Sets of Clubs in one day then you "HAVE" in your whole life. Big Dave I've had golfers come to my shop from all over the US of A because of my skills in fitting a person to his clubs. BIG DAVE, the one reason I can say that is your own E-Mail posts, you stated, I only have built just so many clubs for myself and my friends, Well BIG DAVE you can only build just so many golfclubs for yourself and DAVE from my understanding on E-Mail posts that have been sent to me is that you really don't have "THAT MANY friends and ain't it just a wee bit funny that at the end of every year I must report every dollar earned on Schedule "E" of the USA.Tax Code when was the last time you reported "ANY" profit or loss on your taxes. Tell you what BIG DAVE, I'll take that assignment on myself, I'll call the IRS and check, every member. of ShopTalk that thinks I should, send me a private E-Mail. You see BIG DAVE, I know just what I'm talking about is because of 23 years, come last April, of hands on experience not some asinine idea that runs through your head at some place in time, my Mother, god bless her soul, used to say "Well it go's in one ear and out the other". But the statement that I like best would be this one BIG DAVE, I was building golfclubs before you were allowed out after supper. David, it is because of you that I hope that this operation is successful so that when you make statement or some blackboard explanation instead of by some "HANDS ON IDEA" I will still be around to bust your you know whats, could not say balls because we now have about 6 to 10 women as members on ShopTalk. Next time some one asks for advise, like the epoxy question, if I do not know the answer I keep my mouth shut and learn al lot, because Dave you can not learn anything with your foot in your mouth. Now as I have stated in my original post the first place I would look is inside the bore of the shaft. I say this because of the years of experience I I've had in replacing shafts that that has happened to, when you start spending money out of "YOUR" own pocket you do remember these things, it might take awhile to remember just how & why but you will remember,. I think you are all not looking at the man's swing speed, 154 mph's, that is a very high speed , I know that my equipment, almost out of date replaced in 1995, won't. If there is enough epoxy in the bore it will not allow the shaft to twist during the swing, like if you have a shaft that has a 2.5* torque but you fill up the shaft with epoxy to just less than the hosel bore you in essences are turning that shaft into a .5* of torque instead of the 2.5* shaft that the other major components were made for, not tip stuff or is tip stiff but the manufacturer figured that the most that his shafts would see is around 110 mph's so why over build. . I think that is the reason, plus the weight factor, why race car drivers and car builders use high chrome moly tubing. Its because that form of tubing gives you more bang for the buck, Remember no matter what type of material somethins made from it has it's flaws, like back in the mid 60's Ford Motor was running in all of their GT 40 cars nickle chrome forged crankshafts allof the hardness most expenseive material there is in the steel form. In their very first year of running in the LeMans race w/in a 20 mintue time span all the GT40's were out of the race, reason, all the crankshafts broke.. It just goes to show you bigger isn't always better, Ford went, or came back, the following year with a standard old castiron crankshaft and all for cars lasted through the whole race.A couple of them actually won.RK A small piece of trivia, do you know why they named the cars "GT40" The cars were just 40" high ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, July 27, 2003 2:09:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Question re: Epoxy in Shaft (Was: Epoxy for LDC Pro's) Dave,Does my theory of hitting the ball high and towards the heel, ie. at or very near the hosel, hold any water?AlAt 11:49 AM 7/27/2003, you wrote:>At 11:43 PM 7/26/03 -0700, Alan Brooks wrote:>>In principle, I agree with Dave T. A plug of epoxy on the inside of the >>shaft will cause a stress concentration. That said, however, I find it >>unlikely that effect is significant. The modulus of elasticity of the >>epoxy is so much lower than that of the steel hosel and the graphite >>
Re: ShopTalk: Question re: Epoxy in Shaft (Was: Epoxy for LDC Pro's)
THANK YOU ARNIE THANK YOU RK ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, July 27, 2003 4:34:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Question re: Epoxy in Shaft (Was: Epoxy for LDC Pro's) Simple answer to this problem is filling the shaft tip with epoxy during assembly will cause shaft tip breakage when the ball is struck toward the heel or sometimes toward the toe or if the sole is struck on the ground before striking the ball. DON'T FILL THE SHAFT TIP WITH EXCESS EPOXY WHEN ASSEMBLING CLUBS. Most clubs that I see for shaft replacement which are broken at the hosel have shaft tips in the hosel filled with epoxy. Nothing here to debate.the shafts are broken and the shaft tip was filled with epoxy. Graphite, steel, woods or irons the story is the same.Those without epoxy filling the tip had the crap beaten out of them and the repair cost is doubled for "temper breaks". Failure to heed the "adoption agreement terms" are severely penalized.. Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling
Re: ShopTalk: RE: shoptalk: Epoxy for LDC Pro's
OH Yeah I forgot a couple of other things, If Al T. ever gets an idea he treats it kindly because it's in a strange place. I still can not believe you agree with Al "CUB" just can not friggen believe it. I mean "CUB" the guy lives in Cleveland, you know Cleveland the only city in the "WORLD" that ever, & I mean "EVER" had a RIVER catch on "FIRE" RK ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, July 26, 2003 11:17:02 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ShopTalk: RE: shoptalk: Epoxy for LDC Pro's THAT'S IT CUB, Al T has never had original though in his little head in his entire life I mean, god, every time he bends his elbow his mouth opens. RK ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, July 25, 2003 10:31:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ShopTalk: RE: shoptalk: Epoxy for LDC Pro's I lean toward Al's way of thinking. Does that mean I'm drinking too much?;-(It's breaking a quarter inch above the hosel. Yep, epoxy up in the shaft cancause it to break but what makes me think this isn't it is the statement"they keep breaking". That insinuates multiple occurrences. Unless theclubmaker is an idiot, I doubt that excess epoxy is a continuing problem.Surely a competitor would choose a clubmaker based on good reputation. Theproblem sounds more related to the impact because it is repeated. I imaginethat the shaft is an ultralight, making Al's theory even more plausable.Check the impact on the face with some painter's tape. If that's not it,look for excess epoxy in the broken shafts. If that's still not it, go witha fiber wound shaft. Of course the weight goes up but at least it will beless than steel.FWIWCub- Original Message - From: "Al Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 12:32 PMSubject: Re: ShopTalk: RE: shoptalk: Epoxy for LDC Pro's> I tend to agree with Dave T's thoughts. In fact, I wonder if someengineer> type could do the math on what kind of force a ball hit would have on the> shaft tip at the hozel line. My guess is that an average shaft, hit> on the sweet spot, would not break at those speeds. Just a guess. My> guess on the breakages is that he is miss hitting the ball towards theheel> and up into the hozel area. At those speeds the stationary ball makes a> great fulcrum for the shaft to snap around. Just my experience from days> gone by.>> Al At 05:15 PM 7/25/2003, you wrote:> >Well it might be -- but that's not my favorite theory, at least in part> >because I can't think of a reason that a torsionally stiffer shaft should> >be less likely to break in torsion. Now if it were a torsionally STRONGER> >shaft...> >> >Which brings us to...> >Let's think about how Harrison is likely to get that very torsionally> >stiff shaft. Since most of the twist is in the small-diameter tip, they> >probably really beef up the tip. So there's a lot of reinforcement in the> >tip. Sure, that reduces the twist, but it also makes the tip section alot> >stronger. That's added strength where he's breaking it.> >> >So a low-torsion shaft (or at least MOST low-torsion shafts) willprobably> >do the trick for you. But it's not necessarily because of the torsional> >stiffness, nor because the failure is in torsion (though it may be). It's> >because the way to make a shaft torsionally stiff is to make the tip very> >strong and stable overall.> >> >Cheers!> >DaveT> >> >At 03:52 PM 7/25/03 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:> >>He had a Harrison 1.8 in 1 of his drivers and it lasted longer then the> >>Harrison 2.5's that he prefers. It very well could be torsional stressthat> >>is causing all the breaking.> >>> >>-Original Message-> >>From: Dave Tutelman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]> >>Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 2:36 PM> >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Epoxy for LDC Pro's> >>> >>> >>At 09:34 AM 7/25/03 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:> >> >...He has a swing> >> >speed of 152 mph and has to carry a persimmon, steel shafted drive inhis> >> >bag incase he breaks both long drivers he has in the bag. I wouldassume> >> >he's SOL until he finds a shaft with enough torque to keep the shaftfrom> >> >breaking, but not too much torque where it effects his ball flight.> >>> >>I guess I'm having trouble understanding this, though it may be OK. My> >>questions:> >>> >>(1) What do you mean by "enough torque"? It sounds like you mean a shaft> >>with a "torque" rating higher than some number (like 3.5 degrees), butI'm> >>not sure.> >>> >>(2) If that's what you mean by "enough torque", why should that have> >>anything to do with breaking shafts? My own reasoning would be:> >> - Maybe the shafts are breaking from torsion stress and maybe not.> >>Bending stress? Shearing stress? I suspect both are at least as likelyas> >>torsional stress.> >> - Even if it is torsional stress, I'd expect that torsionalSTRENGTH,> >>not torsional FLEXIBILITY, would be the key. Why would you expect
Re: ShopTalk: RE: shoptalk: Epoxy for LDC Pro's
THAT'S IT CUB, Al T has never had original though in his little head in his entire life I mean, god, every time he bends his elbow his mouth opens. RK ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, July 25, 2003 10:31:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ShopTalk: RE: shoptalk: Epoxy for LDC Pro's I lean toward Al's way of thinking. Does that mean I'm drinking too much?;-(It's breaking a quarter inch above the hosel. Yep, epoxy up in the shaft cancause it to break but what makes me think this isn't it is the statement"they keep breaking". That insinuates multiple occurrences. Unless theclubmaker is an idiot, I doubt that excess epoxy is a continuing problem.Surely a competitor would choose a clubmaker based on good reputation. Theproblem sounds more related to the impact because it is repeated. I imaginethat the shaft is an ultralight, making Al's theory even more plausable.Check the impact on the face with some painter's tape. If that's not it,look for excess epoxy in the broken shafts. If that's still not it, go witha fiber wound shaft. Of course the weight goes up but at least it will beless than steel.FWIWCub- Original Message - From: "Al Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 12:32 PMSubject: Re: ShopTalk: RE: shoptalk: Epoxy for LDC Pro's> I tend to agree with Dave T's thoughts. In fact, I wonder if someengineer> type could do the math on what kind of force a ball hit would have on the> shaft tip at the hozel line. My guess is that an average shaft, hit> on the sweet spot, would not break at those speeds. Just a guess. My> guess on the breakages is that he is miss hitting the ball towards theheel> and up into the hozel area. At those speeds the stationary ball makes a> great fulcrum for the shaft to snap around. Just my experience from days> gone by.>> Al At 05:15 PM 7/25/2003, you wrote:> >Well it might be -- but that's not my favorite theory, at least in part> >because I can't think of a reason that a torsionally stiffer shaft should> >be less likely to break in torsion. Now if it were a torsionally STRONGER> >shaft...> >> >Which brings us to...> >Let's think about how Harrison is likely to get that very torsionally> >stiff shaft. Since most of the twist is in the small-diameter tip, they> >probably really beef up the tip. So there's a lot of reinforcement in the> >tip. Sure, that reduces the twist, but it also makes the tip section alot> >stronger. That's added strength where he's breaking it.> >> >So a low-torsion shaft (or at least MOST low-torsion shafts) willprobably> >do the trick for you. But it's not necessarily because of the torsional> >stiffness, nor because the failure is in torsion (though it may be). It's> >because the way to make a shaft torsionally stiff is to make the tip very> >strong and stable overall.> >> >Cheers!> >DaveT> >> >At 03:52 PM 7/25/03 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:> >>He had a Harrison 1.8 in 1 of his drivers and it lasted longer then the> >>Harrison 2.5's that he prefers. It very well could be torsional stressthat> >>is causing all the breaking.> >>> >>-Original Message-> >>From: Dave Tutelman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]> >>Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 2:36 PM> >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Epoxy for LDC Pro's> >>> >>> >>At 09:34 AM 7/25/03 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:> >> >...He has a swing> >> >speed of 152 mph and has to carry a persimmon, steel shafted drive inhis> >> >bag incase he breaks both long drivers he has in the bag. I wouldassume> >> >he's SOL until he finds a shaft with enough torque to keep the shaftfrom> >> >breaking, but not too much torque where it effects his ball flight.> >>> >>I guess I'm having trouble understanding this, though it may be OK. My> >>questions:> >>> >>(1) What do you mean by "enough torque"? It sounds like you mean a shaft> >>with a "torque" rating higher than some number (like 3.5 degrees), butI'm> >>not sure.> >>> >>(2) If that's what you mean by "enough torque", why should that have> >>anything to do with breaking shafts? My own reasoning would be:> >> - Maybe the shafts are breaking from torsion stress and maybe not.> >>Bending stress? Shearing stress? I suspect both are at least as likelyas> >>torsional stress.> >> - Even if it is torsional stress, I'd expect that torsionalSTRENGTH,> >>not torsional FLEXIBILITY, would be the key. Why would you expecttorsional> >>flexibility to prevent breakage?> >>> >>Thanks,> >>DaveT> >__> >>Disclaimer:> >>This message is confidential. It may also be privileged or otherwise> >>protected by work product immunity or other legal rules. If you are not> >>the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this> >>e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have> >>received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system.> >>Pleas
RE: ShopTalk: Loft & Lie auction
Tom that is just about the time you call your friendly HelicArc man. i was going to buy one when I retired and I should have because down even the best clubmaker w/in the Myrtle Beach area don't know what a HelicArc welder is or just what it can do. RK ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, July 25, 2003 2:52:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ShopTalk: Loft & Lie auction DAN:I have had a fair amount of experience with this machine in the past.The presentation is right in that the machine sold for about $3000 andwas offered back in the 1980s from a company that was based out ofDallas. It is electric motor driven with a speed reducer that rotatesthe acme threaded drive bar on the top of the machine. It was intendedto be used primarily for harder cast stainless irons, but because of themechanism you have to be a little careful with it. The bar hooks on thehosel of the iron, and in turn there is a block that is attached on thethreaded drive that pushes the bar to do its bending. The switch tocontrol the movement of the bar is a toggle that you can turn on andoff, so as to "inch" the bar a little at a time. Because of the natureof this constant drive mechanism that drives the bending bar, it was myexperience that you had to really move the hosel well past the point ofyour desired loft or lie bend, because of the spring back nature of thematerial used to make the head. For example with 17-4 irons and thismachine, I remember having to drive the bar so that it looked like youhad bent the hosel 5 degrees to really get a permanent bend of 1 degree.That got a little scary at times and I do recall breaking a few heads.And I can tell you when they let go, because they were under a lot moretension with this drive mechanism, wow did they scare the heck out ofyou when they broke!! Loud and with a real pop and the shaft + hoselwent flying!! TOM WISHON -Original Message-From: Dan Allan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 5:45 AMTo: ShopTalkSubject: ShopTalk: Loft & Lie auctionHere is something I have never seen before.Does anyone have and use one of these?http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3619697789&category=47325__Do you Yahoo!?Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design softwarehttp://sitebuilder.yahoo.com. Kennedy golf-equipment manufacturer's of world class club repair tooling
