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once they've bought the huge one, they will drink it all up! Drink sizes here tend to be 250 or 300 ml; after a couple of years of habituation I now occasionally find it a bit of work to finish a 500 ml soda. Apparently I'm not alone, I was discussing this with some other expats and they observed that, after being accustomed to the deciliter servings of wine here, when they return to the UK they find that (as a labor-saving measure?) the glasses are poured overly full. The McDo's even — due to internationally standardized supersizing? — offers basins for pouring out excess soda after a meal. I'd think it'd be easier to just serve regular portions than to add special furniture to the franchise; maybe I'm misinterpreting something? It is important to learn to eat slowly; most people eat way too fast. Another adjustment I had to make coming from the States is that lunch in general lasts for an hour and a half (a long lunch might be two hours). It certainly seems healthier to take longer to eat less: one has the time to be hungry, eat, be satiated, and even fit in a little postprandial lull before returning, relaxed, to the office. -Dave
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On Sun, 27 Apr 2008, Kiran Jonnalagadda wrote: Easy rule of thumb: top-post everywhere except on a mailing list that houses cranky old timers. +1! Brian
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This is a top post Actually Kiran has explained it well - but I can't resist putting in my two paise. As you can see - you (that means YOU Deepa) have no clue what I am talking about. However, if this had not been a top post, and the text below had been on top instead of my post, you would have figured out exactly what I am talking about. shiv On Sunday 27 Apr 2008 11:36:55 am Kiran Jonnalagadda wrote: > On 26-Apr-08, at 6:24 AM, Deepa Mohan wrote: > > So...you techies...tell mewhat IS so evil about this top posting > > thing? > > The context also matters, Deepa.
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On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 6:43 AM, ss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Easier said than done. People's body signals are not the same, and given > enough food, some people will eat more than necessary, while others imagine > that the excess eaters are somehow not following their body signals. Actually > they are. their body signals are wrong. It reminds me of this drug that someone was developing (researching , if you must) which would suppress the individuals DNA traits. Suppose obesity was genetic problem for a person who is unable to control and over-eats, the drug would inhibit the cell (using blockers?) from passing that information to the brain. Genetic bio-engineering of the human body never seemed more Frankenstein-ish, albeit for good cause. Why ? -because they were gonna sell it not as a prescription drug but over the counter, ala, a patented designer drug for the rich maybe.
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On 26-Apr-08, at 6:24 AM, Deepa Mohan wrote: So...you techies...tell mewhat IS so evil about this top posting thing? The context also matters, Deepa. Top posting on a mailing list is bad, because it wastes bandwidth (a lot of us spend time on near-dialup quality links over GPRS and CDMA) and makes it harder to relate your message to the quoted text. Top posting in one-on-one email, on the other hand, is GOOD because it makes it easy to introduce a third person to the conversation without having to explain context to them. This is why most email clients encourage you to top-post. It is the norm for most email users and often mandatory business practice, where non-top posting tends to confuse users who expect email to build up in reverse chronology. Reverse chronology, notably, is also the norm for blogs. It's the sort order we've come to expect from our information flows -- the most recent, up-to-date bit is right up front, everything else is some scrolling away. If you've just been introduced to the discussion, you start at the latest and scroll back into the past until it starts making sense. Easy rule of thumb: top-post everywhere except on a mailing list that houses cranky old timers.
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--- ss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Saturday 26 Apr 2008 10:13:48 am va wrote: > > Isnt it more sensible to eat *only* when > hungry than go by the clock, > > place or enticing advert? > > Easier said than done. People's body signals > are not the same, and given > enough food, some people will eat more than > necessary, while others imagine > that the excess eaters are somehow not > following their body signals. Actually > they are. their body signals are wrong. > > shiv > I agree with Shiv. It depends on how good you are at identifying hunger. A lot of people are unable to differentiate between hunger and appetite. Appetite is the desire to eat a particular food that is brought on by the smell, sight, taste or the thought of food; however, the presence of appetite doesnt necessarily mean you are hungry Given that amount of time we are reminded of food during our waking hours it is easy to overeat. Second, you may override your hunger because of other pressing work. Typically, this leads to overeating when you finally get a chance to eat. A common meal that many people skip is the breakfast; in most cases this leads to snacking or overeating later in the day. Third, fixed times for meals is also more efficient: you dont have to plan or think about it. And for families it means that all members will have dinner together. Fourth, sitting down and having 2-3 meals a day at specified times brings structure to your day especially if your day is interrupt driven. Fifth, you want to eat before you become really hungry for if you wait till you are very hungry you will wolf your food down and will probably overeat. It is important to learn to eat slowly; most people eat way too fast. This is possible only if you explicitly plan to have an interrupted length of time to have your meal. shyam Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
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On Saturday 26 Apr 2008 10:13:48 am va wrote: > Isnt it more sensible to eat *only* when hungry than go by the clock, > place or enticing advert? Easier said than done. People's body signals are not the same, and given enough food, some people will eat more than necessary, while others imagine that the excess eaters are somehow not following their body signals. Actually they are. their body signals are wrong. shiv
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On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 6:25 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Now, look at the way gmail automatically hides quoted text gmail does that only when one top-posts, forwards messages and also attatched signatures. Example, it did not do that for this message which i have typed after i brought down the cursor and snipped off parts that didnt seem relevant to my reply.
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> ... more to do with context. Imagine reading bytes of data and trying > to figure out relevance waste of time , dont you think? Now, look at the way gmail automatically hides quoted text (its not alone - several phone based email programs will do much the same thing), and see how the paradigm gets changed. And also consider that people aren’t reading usenet using rn over 2400 bps modems.
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> As for me, it is, in addition to the above, an objection based on the > slippery slope argument. It is all too easy to go from top-posting the That's an argument I tend to hate, based on how often it gets abused and turned into patently nonsensical statements (a typical EFF press release or deeplink, for example)
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On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 1:54 AM, Deepa Mohan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So...you techies...tell mewhat IS so evil about this top posting ... more to do with context. Imagine reading bytes of data and trying to figure out relevance waste of time , dont you think?
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On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 3:07 AM, Shyam Visweswaran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The conceptually simple > solution is to eat sparingly, eat only at > specific times (rather than at any time and any > place) and reduce your exposure to food ads. Isnt it more sensible to eat *only* when hungry than go by the clock, place or enticing advert?
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Deepa Mohan wrote, [on 4/26/2008 6:24 AM]: So...you techies...tell mewhat IS so evil about this top posting thing? A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? Lots more at [1]. Most of the reasons, of course, have been transformed by years of habit into ingrained behaviour patterns, as Rishab indicated. It may be appropriate to quote this bit from the wikipedia article on manners [2] In sociology, manners are the unenforced standards of conduct which show the actor to be cultured, polite, and refined. They are like laws in that they codify or set a standard for human behavior, but they are unlike laws in that there is no formal system for punishing transgressions, other than social disapproval. They are a kind of norm. What is considered "mannerly" is highly susceptible to change with time, geographical location, social stratum, occasion, and other factors. As for me, it is, in addition to the above, an objection based on the slippery slope argument. It is all too easy to go from top-posting the way Rishab did it (which I have no problem with); to quoting an entire mailing list digest (which could contain a few dozen messages) and just add a line on top -- which I have seen in the not-too-distant past on silk as well -- which is just wasteful of bandwidth, and people's time. The latter is the more scarce and more valuable commodity, though I certainly didn't feel that way when I was downloading messages over a quirky GPRS link onto my cellphone a couple of weeks ago. Udhay [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_posting#Top-posting [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manners -- ((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))
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--- Rishab Ghosh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > most of the supersize food pricing schemes are > for relatively small differences, less than 50% > between the large and small version (in > volume/weight) and much less in terms of price. > you don't buy the "family size tub" of ice > cream (2 litres) when you want only 200 ml for > yourself. but you may buy the supersize portion > of 300 ml for just 10% more. > In the 1960s in a US movie theatre the standard size of a soft drink was 6 ounce (177 ml). Today the standard (medium) size is 32 ounce (946 ml) and you can get a 64 ounce serving for just 15% more. Simple economics leads to profound public health problems. In the grand scheme of things if your caloric intake is just enough it matters very little if you consume the "bad" trans fat or the "good" fat. However, if your caloric intake is twice what you need even keeping off all fat is not going help. The conceptually simple solution is to eat sparingly, eat only at specific times (rather than at any time and any place) and reduce your exposure to food ads. Shyam Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
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On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 05:58:59AM +0530, ss wrote: > Like I said- in the UK a shopkeeper sold me a single AA cell in a deal that > cost me a lot less than the price of 4 (leaving me with 3 cells I did not > want) while he earned a lot more than 25% of the value of the pack of 4 by > selling me a single. this has been popularised in particular by hindustan lever with shampoo sachets in india. the profit margins are not actually that huge since the distribution costs are much higher. however, going back to the consumer economics of the price differences - if 4 batteries cost 100 Rs and 1 costs 50, you might buy 1 for 50 if that's all you want. but if you want 3, would you buy 3 for 90 when you could get 4 for 100? most of the supersize food pricing schemes are for relatively small differences, less than 50% between the large and small version (in volume/weight) and much less in terms of price. you don't buy the "family size tub" of ice cream (2 litres) when you want only 200 ml for yourself. but you may buy the supersize portion of 300 ml for just 10% more. and unlike extra batteries, which you'd have to uselessly store, more food you can just eat then and there. or you think you can. -rishab
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On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 06:24:36AM +0530, Deepa Mohan wrote: > So...you techies...tell mewhat IS so evil about this top posting > thing? I have had so many disgusted YM messages/phone call from Udhay when you top post it is typically by quoting the entire message and adding a few lines above. the next person does the same and you end up with the entire history being carried forward in each message. (this sounds like something abhishek should appreciate, actually.) this wastes bandwidth. as i wrote, the alternative objection to top posting, that the quoted text is below the response, is a misunderstanding of the original reasons for avoiding it. nobody really "bottom posts" by quoting the entire message and adding a couple of lines at the bottom, because no mail programme does that by default and nobody would read what you wrote at the bottom. of course, none of this really matters, since bandwidth is more readily available today. but many of us on silk list are grumpy and old (in internet time) and wear the bottoms of our trousers rolled. > Rishab, I used to type only lower case for many years, and then had to > give it up as being reader-unfriendly; I got a lot of complaints. as for lower case, i have seen style guides that admonish one against the use of lower case, since "You are not ee cummings. to which i respond, on the internet nobody knows you're a dog. how do you know i am not ee cummings? IM is after my time, i am used to text-based irc, so i can't comment. i wish there was an etymology of emoticons. i only recently learned that <3 is a heart, and i thought i knew them all; is this a (relatively) recent symbol? -rishab
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On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 5:28 AM, Rishab Aiyer Ghosh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Fri, 2008-04-25 at 16:26 -0700, Thaths wrote: > > *ahem* *mumble*top post*mumble* > > hehe you can mumble all you want, but i posit that although i > technically made a top post in one sense of the term (quoting the text > to which i was responding after my own response) it was not in the sense > that is disapproved of. So...you techies...tell mewhat IS so evil about this top posting thing? I have had so many disgusted YM messages/phone call from Udhay on this topic (well, if not utterly disgusted, they were not very gusted.). When I first got gmail, I was happy to see the last message being nicely quoted in my reply, AND the cursor would be at the top, so I would type therenow, out of FoU (Fear of Udhay) I cut and paste what I want from the message on top and do a "bottom" post... did your Computer Science professors minus ten marks for top-posting, or what? Seems to be from that last line of Rishab's (sorry, rishab's) that there is a caste system here Rishab, I used to type only lower case for many years, and then had to give it up as being reader-unfriendly; I got a lot of complaints. And while on the subject of practices, what's the protocol on remaining invisible in YM or Gtalk? I, personally, cannot handle multiple conversations at once, neither can I remain silent when someone "pings" me, so I remain invisible All you Google employees, I didn't get a reply to my question to Google, "What happened to conferencing "group chat" on Gtalk?" I don't have that ability anymore; it was there, very briefly. Yahoo Messenger wins hands down on the chat front...invisible, selected stealth settings, LOTS of emoticons (including at least a couple that MMK developed), and so on I can see that the cat has to be tied to the tree during the lesson, what I want to know is, why? Deepa.
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On Saturday 26 Apr 2008 4:40:15 am Rishab Aiyer Ghosh wrote: > and it's simple economics that if you make something like a milk shake > 50% smaller, you can't really charge 50% less but only 10-15% less, if > you want to retain your profit margins. and people are less likely to > buy a half-size glass of milkshake for just a bit less than a huge one. I'm no economist - but I seem to have observed a particular Indian way of selling things that I saw being used in the UK too (for the first time in my experience) a couple of years ago. I am talking about selling one single cigarette from a pack of 10 or 20, or selling a "by-two" coffee. The price, it seems, is rationalized to be more affordable to a larger number of people who want to spend less, while at the same time the seller makes an insane profit on the cost of the original pack as compared to what he would have made by selling the whole pack. Like I said- in the UK a shopkeeper sold me a single AA cell in a deal that cost me a lot less than the price of 4 (leaving me with 3 cells I did not want) while he earned a lot more than 25% of the value of the pack of 4 by selling me a single. shiv
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On Fri, 2008-04-25 at 16:26 -0700, Thaths wrote: > *ahem* *mumble*top post*mumble* hehe you can mumble all you want, but i posit that although i technically made a top post in one sense of the term (quoting the text to which i was responding after my own response) it was not in the sense that is disapproved of. i actually excerpted 5 lines from a 20-line post by shyam, and posted my 5-line response directly above only that excerpt :-) you on the other hand did not post "on top" but inserted 1 line into the entire quoted 10-line text of my mail including shyam's quote. which wasted more bandwidth :-) (shyam's post which i excerpted, though, _was_ a top-post... he added his 20-line text to the top of the _entire_ 48-line article posted by deepa.) -rishab, who uses wc, and types in lower case since typing blind 16 years ago on a 1200 bps modem with 4 second lag meant not worrying about case changes.
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On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 4:10 PM, Rishab Aiyer Ghosh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > and it's simple economics that if you make something like a milk shake > 50% smaller, you can't really charge 50% less but only 10-15% less, if > you want to retain your profit margins. and people are less likely to > buy a half-size glass of milkshake for just a bit less than a huge one. > > and once they've bought the huge one, they will drink it all up! *ahem* *mumble*top post*mumble* Thaths > > > > On Thu, 2008-04-24 at 18:38 -0700, Shyam Visweswaran wrote: > > reduction in business. So some smartass hit upon > > the idea of increasing the portion size 25-50% > > while raising the price by10-15% and advertising > > that you could get a lot more for a little extra > > money. The marketing of "supersizing" stems from > > > > -- Bart: We were just planning the father-son river rafting trip. Homer: Hehe. You don't have a son. Sudhakar Chandra Slacker Without Borders
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and it's simple economics that if you make something like a milk shake 50% smaller, you can't really charge 50% less but only 10-15% less, if you want to retain your profit margins. and people are less likely to buy a half-size glass of milkshake for just a bit less than a huge one. and once they've bought the huge one, they will drink it all up! On Thu, 2008-04-24 at 18:38 -0700, Shyam Visweswaran wrote: > reduction in business. So some smartass hit upon > the idea of increasing the portion size 25-50% > while raising the price by10-15% and advertising > that you could get a lot more for a little extra > money. The marketing of “supersizing” stems from
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Something I heard from a marketing guy. In the US, the potion sizes and the drink sizes have almost tripled in two decades. Apparently, when restaurants and fast food joints had to raise prices due to increases in cost of production they did not want to do so for the fear of reduction in business. So some smartass hit upon the idea of increasing the portion size 25-50% while raising the price by10-15% and advertising that you could get a lot more for a little extra money. The marketing of supersizing stems from the same logic. There was a time when Starbucks did not even list normal size coffees on their menu. The problem is, as the psychologists discovered, the bigger the portion size the more you tend to eat. The ones who escape the seduction of bigger potions are the excruciatingly slow eaters: by the time the brain signals satiation they have not yet over-eaten. --- Deepa Mohan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Calorie counts > Ed Pilkington > New York: It was the first city in America to > ban > trans-fats from food outlets. Now New York has > set > another U.S. first from Monday , larger food > chains > such as McDonald's, Dunkin' Donuts and > Starbucks must > display the calories of their products on > menus. > > The new rules apply to all chains with at least > 15 > outlets across the country which in the case > of New > York accounts for 2,000 restaurants. > > The city authorities say the reform will help > New > Yorkers get a better sense of what they are > eating as > part of the on-going battle against obesity and > diabetes. > > Over the next five years, the city says, the > labelling > will help prevent 1,30,000 New Yorkers from > becoming > obese and 30,000 from developing diabetes. > > Some New York outlets had already begun to show > calorie counts on their menu boards by the end > of last > week. Starbucks had also started to display its > calories. That revealed that a venti Java chip > frappucino packs in 600 calories. McDonalds had > yet to > post its counts. From Monday, all eyes will be > on its > outlets, together with the other fast-food > chains. If > they fail to meet the regulations by June 3 > they will > face fines. (c) Guardian Newspapers Limited, > 2008 > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
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another U.S. first — from Monday , larger food chains such as McDonald's, Dunkin' Donuts and Starbucks must display the calories of their products on menus. Heh. I have a placemat I've saved from a McDo's in Switzerland because it claims (which I believe) that they use swiss beef, by displaying a picturesque alpine pasture, hanging off the side of a mountain with maybe 20 head visible (which I rather doubt depicts their regular supplier). On the back, they not only list kcal and serving size, but also: protein, carbs, of which sugars, fat, of which saturated, fiber, and salt. These are followed by entries for possible allergens: gluten, eggs, dairy, fish, crustaceans, soy, peanuts, other nuts, sesame, celery, mustard, and sulfites. (it appears that a 600 kcal venti java chip frappucino lies right in between a Big Mac (495) and a Chicken Mythic (700); compare that to the 10 kcal for a cup of coffee!) Rather than asking people to do sums or manipulate percentages, might it be easier to convince them to eat when they're hungry and stop when they're full? -Dave (weird: http://www.mcdonaldsmenu.info/ has local entries for Azerbaijan, but not for the US. What's up with that?)
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On Tuesday 22 Apr 2008 7:15:39 pm Deepa Mohan wrote: > New York: It was the first city in America to ban > trans-fats from food outlets. Now New York has set > another U.S. first — from Monday , larger food chains > such as McDonald's, Dunkin' Donuts and Starbucks must > display the calories of their products on menus. Too little . Too late. It would be just as effective to leep a suitable bottle of trans-fats in a pooja room, smear it with kumkum and holy ash and pray that disease do not come. shiv
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On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 9:09 AM, ashok _ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 7:02 PM, Thaths wrote: > > And parents don't help either by instilling cleaning up one's plate as a > value. > And insisting that cooking things in pure ghee is somehow healthy ! True. But Dalda (a brand of hydrogenated vegetable oil-based fat) is worse. It has some nasty trans and saturated fats. Thaths -- Bart: We were just planning the father-son river rafting trip. Homer: Hehe. You don't have a son. Sudhakar Chandra Slacker Without Borders
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On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 7:02 PM, Thaths wrote: > > And parents don't help either by instilling cleaning up one's plate as a > value. > > And insisting that cooking things in pure ghee is somehow healthy ! ashok
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On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 9:10 PM, Thaths <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 7:01 AM, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > Deepa Mohan wrote: > > | Over the next five years, the city says, the labelling > > | will help prevent 1,30,000 New Yorkers from becoming > > | obese and 30,000 from developing diabetes. > > reminds one about the small entry in > > http://www.madetostick.com/excerpts/ but does it really work ? > > The cafes at the Googleplex use an interesting color-coded labeling > method. The food signs come in 3 colors: green, orange and red. Food > that you should have multiple servings of (salad, veggies, unprocessed > grains) are labeled in green. Food that you should have only a couple > of servings a day (eggs, dairy, fish) are labeled in orange and food > that you should eat sparingly - maybe a couple of servings a week - > (deserrts, red meat) are labeled in red. The color-coded labels convey > the information quite succinctly, IMO. > > And while it is true that recommended diet varies from person to > person, the color-coded system does a good job of categorizing the > food for most of the population. > > Because many Americans are used to being served enormous portions of > food at restaurants, another interesting approach of the cafe staff > here is to have plates at the entrance to the cafes showing a couple > of recommended meals with average-sized portions. > > Thaths That IS a great innovation Thaths...those who have done the Google tour have never talked about this, though, to me.
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On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 8:56 AM, Radhika, Y. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > average size can be very scary for anybody who has not paid attention > to their food. when i became diabetic two years ago i found out that > the amount of pasta that fits in my palm (not including fingers) is > the average size. by that standard i had probably eaten four times > that amount every time i ate pasta. getting your mind around the fact > that an apple will satisfy more than crackers, chaat, bhel or > chocolate is a greater problem. As my doctor put it, we human beings > eat by volume. whether it is ice cream or salad, we want to see the > plate full. And parents don't help either by instilling cleaning up one's plate as a value. Thaths -- Bart: We were just planning the father-son river rafting trip. Homer: Hehe. You don't have a son. Sudhakar Chandra Slacker Without Borders
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average size can be very scary for anybody who has not paid attention to their food. when i became diabetic two years ago i found out that the amount of pasta that fits in my palm (not including fingers) is the average size. by that standard i had probably eaten four times that amount every time i ate pasta. getting your mind around the fact that an apple will satisfy more than crackers, chaat, bhel or chocolate is a greater problem. As my doctor put it, we human beings eat by volume. whether it is ice cream or salad, we want to see the plate full. On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 8:40 AM, Thaths <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 7:01 AM, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > Deepa Mohan wrote: > > | Over the next five years, the city says, the labelling > > | will help prevent 1,30,000 New Yorkers from becoming > > | obese and 30,000 from developing diabetes. > > reminds one about the small entry in > > http://www.madetostick.com/excerpts/ but does it really work ? > > The cafes at the Googleplex use an interesting color-coded labeling > method. The food signs come in 3 colors: green, orange and red. Food > that you should have multiple servings of (salad, veggies, unprocessed > grains) are labeled in green. Food that you should have only a couple > of servings a day (eggs, dairy, fish) are labeled in orange and food > that you should eat sparingly - maybe a couple of servings a week - > (deserrts, red meat) are labeled in red. The color-coded labels convey > the information quite succinctly, IMO. > > And while it is true that recommended diet varies from person to > person, the color-coded system does a good job of categorizing the > food for most of the population. > > Because many Americans are used to being served enormous portions of > food at restaurants, another interesting approach of the cafe staff > here is to have plates at the entrance to the cafes showing a couple > of recommended meals with average-sized portions. > > Thaths > -- > Bart: We were just planning the father-son river rafting trip. > Homer: Hehe. You don't have a son. > Sudhakar Chandra Slacker Without Borders > >
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On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 7:01 AM, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > Deepa Mohan wrote: > | Over the next five years, the city says, the labelling > | will help prevent 1,30,000 New Yorkers from becoming > | obese and 30,000 from developing diabetes. > reminds one about the small entry in > http://www.madetostick.com/excerpts/ but does it really work ? The cafes at the Googleplex use an interesting color-coded labeling method. The food signs come in 3 colors: green, orange and red. Food that you should have multiple servings of (salad, veggies, unprocessed grains) are labeled in green. Food that you should have only a couple of servings a day (eggs, dairy, fish) are labeled in orange and food that you should eat sparingly - maybe a couple of servings a week - (deserrts, red meat) are labeled in red. The color-coded labels convey the information quite succinctly, IMO. And while it is true that recommended diet varies from person to person, the color-coded system does a good job of categorizing the food for most of the population. Because many Americans are used to being served enormous portions of food at restaurants, another interesting approach of the cafe staff here is to have plates at the entrance to the cafes showing a couple of recommended meals with average-sized portions. Thaths -- Bart: We were just planning the father-son river rafting trip. Homer: Hehe. You don't have a son. Sudhakar Chandra Slacker Without Borders
Re: [silk] Calorie Count
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Deepa Mohan wrote: | Over the next five years, the city says, the labelling | will help prevent 1,30,000 New Yorkers from becoming | obese and 30,000 from developing diabetes. reminds one about the small entry in http://www.madetostick.com/excerpts/ but does it really work ? ~sankarshan ps: this is about the popcorn thing and not the kidney thing -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIDe+5XQZpNTcrCzMRAoK1AJ9rtehI3QAHCe4NVp/z5O/z61uG3ACePjMu AVE2sW0zowcnM38fRRkIZm4= =rGEJ -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[silk] Calorie Count
Calorie counts Ed Pilkington New York: It was the first city in America to ban trans-fats from food outlets. Now New York has set another U.S. first — from Monday , larger food chains such as McDonald's, Dunkin' Donuts and Starbucks must display the calories of their products on menus. The new rules apply to all chains with at least 15 outlets across the country — which in the case of New York accounts for 2,000 restaurants. The city authorities say the reform will help New Yorkers get a better sense of what they are eating as part of the on-going battle against obesity and diabetes. Over the next five years, the city says, the labelling will help prevent 1,30,000 New Yorkers from becoming obese and 30,000 from developing diabetes. Some New York outlets had already begun to show calorie counts on their menu boards by the end of last week. Starbucks had also started to display its calories. That revealed that a venti Java chip frappucino packs in 600 calories. McDonalds had yet to post its counts. From Monday, all eyes will be on its outlets, together with the other fast-food chains. If they fail to meet the regulations by June 3 they will face fines. — (c) Guardian Newspapers Limited, 2008
