Re: CS>questions
I started giving it to >my father for infection in his toe. >Thanks John jfost...@cableone.net I don't remember if you said before or not, John, but do you have your father also soak that toe in CS? Also, has he tried MSM to increase circulation in hopes of better getting the CS to the affected area? Sharon -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>No Subject
If you want to know about mycoplasmas, go to www.immed.org and click on GWS section. LOTS of free info. Kevorkian For White House Physician. Jolly -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
cs- can it prevent lyme disease? What about preventing tetanus?
My primary Dr. wasn't willing to order the lyme vaccine for me. He said there was controversy over whether its effective. Also, it's been 9 years since I had a tetanus shot and when I asked him for the booster he told me to wait another year. I am concerned about preparing for y2k and when I told him this he laughed. I know I need to find another primary physician but I suspect many other physicians will have similar responses since they are "gatekeepers" to keep down costs for hmo's. Anyway, my question is does anyone know if cs will prevent lyme disease? Also, will it prevent tetanus? Nancy Goldblatt -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>questions
On Sat, 26 Jun 1999 13:05:22 -0500, you wrote: >>Yes the color was a very light gold, it looked clear except for those black >>thing that had come of the electrodes, I did switch the current about every what is the 'black thing' anyway ? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>God in the doctor's office
In a message dated 6/26/99 1:23:19 PM EST, sinaj...@aol.com writes: > Told me he would give me some Prozac as he thought that would > help me tremendously. Do they get a kickback from prescribing Prozac? I > think half the town is taking it these days. > > Take care, > Janis They must get kickbacks. I was on Paxil (similar to Prozac) until I read Dr. Peter Breggin's book, "Talking Back to Prozac." I asked the doctor to please change me to one of the older, tried-and-true anti-depressants and he refused. He said he wanted to raise my daily dose of Paxil instead. I fired him and got off Paxil on my own. It's been two years and with the assistance of better diet, herbs and supplements, I feel just fine. CS has helped in many ways, though I've only been on it for a few months. I had previously thought I'd be on anti-depressants for the rest of my life. They did help, but I'm glad to be free of them. Samm -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>New Silver Maker
Hi people, I'm new to the CS world, very impressed, and full of questions. I don't know how many questions I am supposed to ask per post, so please forgive me if this is too much, and someone inform me of my faux pas, ok? I got my generator from Allison's Apothecary who also gave me the info about this list. I just made my first CS. I have Rosacea and that is the main reason I got into all my research about CS and decided to go for it. My questions are: Does anyone else heat the water to make CS? There was info in my kit that if you heated the water you got higher PPM, so I tried that. I left it going for 20 minutes but nothing happened except that one of the rods got black stuff all in a circle on the bottom of the glass. But no bubbling and misting like it was supposed to. When I did it in barely heated water with 2 drops of saline it did just fine. Which is my next question. Does anyone else use saline? I have seen arguments for and against. All I know is when I used the saline it immediately began to act like the instructions told me it would, whereas without saline it didn't. I left it for about 12-15 minutes and it turned a nice silvery color. My instructions said you could count on approximately 1PPM for each minute you leave the generator on. Is this the general opinion? I know I'm running on, but I'm like a kid with a new toy. I'm so excited about all that I've read and all I've seen here that I'm like a new convert trying to hook everyone I talk to! Any help via this list or sent to me personally would be greatly appreciated. I want to know and learn all I can. Thanks so much in advance for your time and help, Pam -- ` Pam Whitmire Webmaster Taped Editions, Inc. 888.850.1497 Audio books for Libraries and Individuals ` -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>No Subject
Hi Vilik, thanks for your post -- and yes, I am very curious about the nature of these fungus/bacteria/protozoa beasties which have chosen us to flourish in. What is mycoplamal infection and how did you find out that you have it? I actually realized that I had tried the soil based organisms for the blastocystis/candida combo before - without much luck - but at that time the candida was so strong that maybe it was just impenetrable. My candida levels are now down fairly low so maybe it will be more effective. I've tried a bunch of things for the blastocystis - none of them have worked except maybe now the herbs that my chinese medicine doctor mixes for me are beginning to work. However, I just read in a very good book called "Allergy Relief and Prevention" by Jacqueline Krohn, MD that she has a regime that is 90 percent effective with protozoa (including blasto) It is very high doses of Grapefruit Seed extract and Par Quing (which is Artemesia Annua and some other herbs. If this regime doesn't work I will probably try that. My holistic MD suggested that I try a zapper - or Beck's pulser - but I'm waiting on that since the chinese medicine doctor swears that they are dangerous -- and I don't want to try too many things at once. This has all been so confusing and difficult -- every doctor or health care practitioner has a different theory and most of them conflict. At the moment though - my main fear is that this sinus infection will take root and then they'll want to do antibiotics again which is how I wound up with a weakened gut in the first place. Arggh! So I hope the CS works! What have you tried for the blastocystis? Katarina -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>No Subject
Thanks so so much to everyone who responded to my post. I've been slow in getting back to you because this sinus infection has really flared up along with a miserable headache which has been slowing me down. So I made my first silver using the Beck's silver pulser. I used distilled water and I ran it for 20 minutes. It came out a very pale goldish color with a few black flecks floating in it - so I filtered it through a unbleached paper towel. Now, Mashall, you suggested 5-12ppm for nasal or topical. How would I know what PPm it is or does it not need to be that precise. James Vernon, you suggested distilled water at room temp with the rods 12 inch apart at 27 volts. I am not sure if the rods would be considered a half inch apart, they are in a sort of y which is about an inch apart at the bottom. Does that matter? I also forgot to stir it. Would that matter? I put some in a pump nasal spray bottle. How often should I use it and how much? I've been doing a couple of sprays in each nostril three or four times a day. And I took about two ounces orally in AM and PM as well. Is that too much - or too little - and is it a good idea to do both orally and nasal? I felt a little better after the first sprays, but now about the same - of course it has only been 24 hrs. So maybe I should take more - but are there any risks from taking more and what would be the maximum dose to fight an infection? I read somewhere about the risk of turning blue from the silver if the particles are too large -- is there a way to know whether the particles would be too large if you are making it yourself. And how long does the silver keep? I imagine I will use it up pretty quickly, but am curious about shelf life. Anyhow, I really appreciate all the information - it has been very usefull. And hi to Joey if you are on. Katarina -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>The internet
In article <2.2.32.19990626221231.00e0c...@mail.inow.com>, Mary writes > >>You know there is a vaccine, at least for breast cancer. > > >No thanks, no more vaccines for me. They never tell you the side effects of >them (like autism, diabetes, MS, etc) > Don't know what constitutes a vaccine but I understand the 714X - a homeopathic concoction - by Gaston Naessens "The Trial and Persecution of" by the late Christopher Bird, had a modicum of success. Whatever the attempted remedy, allopathic or homeopathic, the 'secret' most powerful healer of all, in my humble opinion, is the mind. > >-- >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > >List maintainer: Mike Devour > -- Ron Cuthbertson -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>The internet
>> Let me guess she was cured once before using chemo? What they don't >>tell you is on the average the cancer comes back four years later. >>Reid >Dear Reid, >I trusted the drs and had chemotherapy and radiation. What are my chances? The more you know the less the odds of it comming back. If you look at the herbal and other treatments you'll see a striking similarity and understand how cancer is formed. The doctor in Texas uses urakinase (made from urine). That is a super clot desolver. Eat lots of Potassium rich food that opens the viens so that blood can flow. Exercise like running is a REAL good thing to do that gets the blood flowing. Eat an asperin a day to keep the blood thin. Drink plenty of water and NO FLORIDE water florid distroys the thyroid gland. Have you figured out how cancer works yet? Remember that cancer is said to be linked to the E-coli and other bacterias. Keep your health insurance paid just in case it comes back. >After what I have found out about vaccines, I am scared to even look into what >chemo does to us!! I was told it stops cell devision. Tomoxifin is a normome blocker. A lady friend of mine had breast cancer almost 4 years ago. She said they told her that her cancer was estrogin fed. She was taking estrogen suppliments. BIG MISTAKE!!! Hormones can be thrown off balanced by adding just one, like JUST estrogen. >ps Any hope at all I am six years out from the toxic chemo. Good luck and I for one hope you beat the odds. From what I understand it was 94% get it back. Keep a close eye out for signs. Take Care Reid -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>The internet
At 07:03 AM 6/26/99 -0700, Mary wrote: > >ps Any hope at all I am six years out from the toxic chemo. > Mary, Your chances have to do with your beliefs, your spirit, and who and what you are today. You have broken out the "sheep" medical system. You have an exploring mind, and clearly a deep desire for wellness. You have a lot going for you. Statistics always lie. Don't believe them (unless they work for you!) Believe in your own life force. Find the things that work for you. Laugh and love and play, be good to your body, feed your spirit, exercise your intellect, and you will be WAY ahead of any ol' bummer stats. ~^^V^^~ > > -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>The internet
>You know there is a vaccine, at least for breast cancer. No thanks, no more vaccines for me. They never tell you the side effects of them (like autism, diabetes, MS, etc) -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>The internet
At 07:03 AM 6/26/99 -0700, you wrote: What are my chances? After what I have found out about vaccines, I am scared >to even look into what chemo does to us!! Mary, You know there is a vaccine, at least for breast cancer. I think Vincent could tell you about it. I dont know if it is approved in the US, but in other countries women have been successfuly immunized from their cancers--or so I hear. any one else know anything about this??? It is apparently a good thing to look into what is happening globally when making decisions about treatments for things. However, none of us are naysayers out to scare people. Hope springs eternally and sometimes things that are said on these pages are wake up calls. At least for me. Susan Light is "Living in God's Holy Thoughts." -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>urination
He did not urinate alot but his intake of fluids was little also Thanks John jfost...@cableone.net - Original Message - From: James Osbourne, Holmes To: Sent: Saturday, June 26, 1999 1:47 PM Subject: RE: CS>urination > Have you considered that the CS has improved some kidney condition which is > causing them to function better? How does his output compare with > standards? Was it low before or normal? > James Osbourne, Holmes > > a...@trail.com > > -Original Message- > From: jfoster [SMTP:jfost...@cableone.net] > Sent: Saturday, June 26, 1999 12:46 AM > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: CS>urination > > Has anyone noticed that after taking colloidal silver that it increased the > urine output drastically, I posted the message about running the voltage up > to about 7 ma and giving my father about 6 oz. today he has urinated much > more abundantly. The reason for this amount was trying to get a handle on > things as he has come down with osteomalitis and has a Dr.s appointment > monday. I know if we cannot get a handle on it I.V. antibiotics will be > administered over a period of 6 weeks. Was just wondering about the > urination though > Thanks John jfost...@cableone.net > > > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>urination
Have you considered that the CS has improved some kidney condition which is causing them to function better? How does his output compare with standards? Was it low before or normal? James Osbourne, Holmes a...@trail.com -Original Message- From: jfoster [SMTP:jfost...@cableone.net] Sent: Saturday, June 26, 1999 12:46 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:CS>urination Has anyone noticed that after taking colloidal silver that it increased the urine output drastically, I posted the message about running the voltage up to about 7 ma and giving my father about 6 oz. today he has urinated much more abundantly. The reason for this amount was trying to get a handle on things as he has come down with osteomalitis and has a Dr.s appointment monday. I know if we cannot get a handle on it I.V. antibiotics will be administered over a period of 6 weeks. Was just wondering about the urination though Thanks John jfost...@cableone.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>questions
John, I am sending a web site on Lasix. I used to work in a hospital and saw a lot of patients on Lasix and they did a lot of urinating. It was normal for them. I was just a nurses aid though. Here is the link and a little about Lasix. Lasix is one of the most frequently used medicines and has been around for many decades. Lasix stimulates kidneys to produce more urine, as a result it reduces the amount of free water in the body. Along with increase in urine volume, Lasix causes loss of Sodium and Potassium in the urine. http://www.tirgan.com/lasix.htm";>Lasix http://www.tirgan.com/lasix.htm Janis In a message dated 6/26/99 11:07:09 AM Pacific Daylight Time, jfost...@cableone.net writes: << I am very curious though, I have never seen anyone post anything about the increase in urine output from taking CS. Have you ever heard of this? Thanks John jfost...@cableone.net >> -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>God in the doctor's office
By golly, Jolly are you from the same town in Oklahoma I am? Sounds just too familiar. I hope all the doctors in Oklahoma aren't like this or our death rate is going to be going up. So far my experiences are about the same as yours. A neurologist here in 97 told me that lyme didn't exist in Oklahoma and he seriously doubted it existed at all. Told me I had either Lupus, MS, or Fibromyalgia and wanted a whole lot of tests done. No western blot though. Told me he would give me some Prozac as he thought that would help me tremendously. Do they get a kickback from prescribing Prozac? I think half the town is taking it these days. Take care, Janis In a message dated 6/25/99 6:57:33 PM Pacific Daylight Time, garl...@clnk.com writes: << He told me then that i needed to definitely have my head examined. He became very agitated and suggested that i leave because I was obviously "more of a patient than he was a doctor" ( the only true statment he made today). >> -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>questions
Yes the color was a very light gold, it looked clear except for those black thing that had come of the electrodes, I did switch the current about every 10 minutes since I was having to do it manually. WHen I stopped the process before at 4.5 ma it solution was totally clear and there was not much treeing of the electorodes. WHen it gets to around the 5.5 or 6 ma level that is when I notice some coloration in the water. I started giving it to my father for infection in his toe. I could not give him much as it would led to diarrhea. Then I make a batch and stopped it at 2.0 ma. He took this for several days and the diarrhea stopped. He does not have diarrhea now but yesterday I gave him his first doses of the 7.0ma solution, Gave him 2 ox. 3 times yesterday. He usually takes a little insulin at night, he checked his blood sugar last night and it was not high enough for him to take any insulin, He urinated more last night than he ever remembered urinating. On occasions he takes Lassix for his edema in his legs from Heart problems. He urinated much more than when he even takes lassix. He does not take but 20 mg. of lassix though when he takes it and usually only has to take it about 1 or 2 nights a month. The infection on his toe has gone into osteomalitis and that was the reason for giving that dosage of silver. I am very curious though, I have never seen anyone post anything about the increase in urine output from taking CS. Have you ever heard of this? Thanks John jfost...@cableone.net - Original Message - From: Ivan Anderson To: Sent: Saturday, June 26, 1999 6:31 AM Subject: Re: CS>questions > Hi John. > > If I remember correctly the post you refer to noted no size difference > with generating current up to 12mA. Points to note though, are that > the water was under constant stirring, the voltage was switched every > 10 seconds, and the voltage was kept constant at 30V +/- 1V. What was > not mentioned was, electrode geometry, wetted depth, and distance > apart. > Each setup has its own optimum settings, which is always a compromise > between speed of generation and running a clean controlled reaction. > Agitation is of great benefit, spreading the silver ions throughout > the solution and eliminating the high concentration between the > electrodes. > In my small generators, the current is limited to 0.75mA. In my > 25litre systems, current is limited to 8mA and the colour is a very > pale yellow, but I have run at 16mA with no problems, the colour being > slightly deeper. I filter the 25 litres at 0.2microns (um) under inert > gas pressure and have no loss of colour or concentration. > The trouble with generators that are not current limited is that you > cannot go past a point without experiencing what you talked about. > Constant or frequent stirring will raise that point somewhat. > BTW what colour did you end up with? > If the colour is a clear yellow or lighter, filter and use. > > Regards - Ivan > > - Original Message - > From: jfoster > > > I have been running some batches of colloidal silver. I first stop > the > > process at 4.5 ma but never got any color from it until it had sat > for about > > 2 weeks and then it started to turn a goldish tint. I decided to let > the > > voltage run up a bit since the post I saw showed no significance in > particle > > size up to 12 ma. I ran a batch to about 7 ma and there was a good > bit of > > the black stuff floating around in the water. I could really see the > > electrodes bubbling and giving off the stream of whatever. I guess > you can > > just strain this through a coffee filter and then use, right? > > Thanks John jfost...@cableone.net > > > > > > > > > > -- > > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal > silver. > > > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message > to: > > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- > silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>The internet
Reid, You are so right about the cancer coming back. My uncle years ago got Hodgkins disease and was treated and in complete remission for 10 years and then it came back only this time it had spread throughout his whole body and he lasted about 2 months after they found it. He went in for tests in June of 87 (i think) and they found nothing and then he went back the next month and demanded they retest him (as he wasn't feeling good) and that was when they found it everywhere. He was too far gone to do anything. I sure wish I would have known about CS back then. Don't know if it would have saved him but it sure would have been worth a try. To try and fail is better than to not try and fail. Janis In a message dated 6/26/99 1:26:11 AM Pacific Daylight Time, rsm...@intrnet.net writes: << Let me guess she was cured once before using chemo? What they don't tell you is on the average the cancer comes back four years later. Take Care Reid >> -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>The internet
Dear Reid, I trusted the drs and had chemotherapy and radiation. What are my chances? After what I have found out about vaccines, I am scared to even look into what chemo does to us!! Mary ps Any hope at all I am six years out from the toxic chemo. > > Let me guess she was cured once before using chemo? What they don't >tell you is on the average the cancer comes back four years later. > >Take Care >Reid > > > >-- >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > >List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>The internet
Vilik, I've been thinking lately about those who have channelled their energies into arguing and fighting about snake oil, how they are likely to miss the help that they need. When I hit a bottom so deep that I became open to everything with an inquiring mind rather than an arguing one, then I found the help I needed. This lends new meaning to the bible verse which I have been wondering about for years: BLESSED are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven Michael Vilik Rapheles wrote: > > Jolly, > >I just sent some info to a friend whose cancer just came back. She sent > me a wrathful letter about the horrors of "snake oil salesmen" on the > internet. So...hey...I think snake oil sounds pretty interesting. Anybody > out there selling any? > > ~^^V^^~ > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>questions
Hi John, > I have been running some batches of colloidal silver. I first stop > the process at 4.5 ma but never got any color from it until it had > sat for about 2 weeks and then it started to turn a goldish tint. For the purpose of these comments I'll assume your wires are 1 1/2 to 2 inches apart, 3 to 4 inches deep, in something like a glass of water, distilled, at room temperature. You're probably in the "a few ppm" range, probably less than 5 and maybe as little as 1 or 2... (just my wild-a**ed-guess!) > I decided to let the voltage run up a bit since the post I saw > showed no significance in particle size up to 12 ma. Just to keep things straight, you decided to run the *current* up a bit, right? The current, in milliamps, is what you should be measuring. The voltage is what drives the current, and is measured in volts. The voltage is not adjustable in your setup, assuming your using batteries or a fixed supply and no lamp or other current limiter in series with the cell. Using those terms precisely is a good thing! Now back to business... > I ran a batch to about 7 ma and there was a good bit of the black > stuff floating around in the water. I could really see the > electrodes bubbling and giving off the stream of whatever. I guess > you can just strain this through a coffee filter and then use, > right? If you are careful you can keep that stuff from getting into the water for the most part. Don't stir anything up, and let the dark fluffy stuff form on the electrodes. Then, you can gently pull them out of the water without it shaking loose. Wipe the electrodes clean on a paper napkin or a lint-free cloth, stir your solution, then put the electrodes back in. Do this every few minutes and you can keep *most* of the junk out. What does get away from you will sink to the bottom, allowing you to pour off the rest, or can be filtered out as you suggest. > Thanks John jfost...@cableone.net You're welcome. I hope it helps. Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@mail.id.net ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>questions
Hi John. If I remember correctly the post you refer to noted no size difference with generating current up to 12mA. Points to note though, are that the water was under constant stirring, the voltage was switched every 10 seconds, and the voltage was kept constant at 30V +/- 1V. What was not mentioned was, electrode geometry, wetted depth, and distance apart. Each setup has its own optimum settings, which is always a compromise between speed of generation and running a clean controlled reaction. Agitation is of great benefit, spreading the silver ions throughout the solution and eliminating the high concentration between the electrodes. In my small generators, the current is limited to 0.75mA. In my 25litre systems, current is limited to 8mA and the colour is a very pale yellow, but I have run at 16mA with no problems, the colour being slightly deeper. I filter the 25 litres at 0.2microns (um) under inert gas pressure and have no loss of colour or concentration. The trouble with generators that are not current limited is that you cannot go past a point without experiencing what you talked about. Constant or frequent stirring will raise that point somewhat. BTW what colour did you end up with? If the colour is a clear yellow or lighter, filter and use. Regards - Ivan - Original Message - From: jfoster > I have been running some batches of colloidal silver. I first stop the > process at 4.5 ma but never got any color from it until it had sat for about > 2 weeks and then it started to turn a goldish tint. I decided to let the > voltage run up a bit since the post I saw showed no significance in particle > size up to 12 ma. I ran a batch to about 7 ma and there was a good bit of > the black stuff floating around in the water. I could really see the > electrodes bubbling and giving off the stream of whatever. I guess you can > just strain this through a coffee filter and then use, right? > Thanks John jfost...@cableone.net > > > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>The internet
>Jolly, > I just sent some info to a friend whose cancer just came back. She sent >me a wrathful letter about the horrors of "snake oil salesmen" on the >internet. So...hey...I think snake oil sounds pretty interesting. Anybody >out there selling any? >~^^V^^~ Let me guess she was cured once before using chemo? What they don't tell you is on the average the cancer comes back four years later. Take Care Reid -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>urination
Has anyone noticed that after taking colloidal silver that it increased the urine output drastically, I posted the message about running the voltage up to about 7 ma and giving my father about 6 oz. today he has urinated much more abundantly. The reason for this amount was trying to get a handle on things as he has come down with osteomalitis and has a Dr.s appointment monday. I know if we cannot get a handle on it I.V. antibiotics will be administered over a period of 6 weeks. Was just wondering about the urination though Thanks John jfost...@cableone.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>The internet
Jolly, I just sent some info to a friend whose cancer just came back. She sent me a wrathful letter about the horrors of "snake oil salesmen" on the internet. So...hey...I think snake oil sounds pretty interesting. Anybody out there selling any? ~^^V^^~ -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
