Re: CS> Wire is here!

1999-07-08 Thread Marsha Hallett
Dear Listers, My new order of silver wire is here now, can those who wanted
some please re-email me? I messed up my saved emails... :o(
As soon as I have the addresses I`ll get it cut and sent ASAP!
Thanks,
Marsha

PS, Anyone here like New Age music?? (Like David Lanz and Narada.)




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Re: CS>The other silver list...

1999-07-08 Thread Charles King
On Wed, 7 Jul 1999 22:53:14 EDT, skyl...@aol.com wrote:

><< I am able to automatically sort my incoming mail 
> into separate folders by header strings, so everything is quite 
> orderly.  >>
>
>I wish I had an easy way to sort the topics that come in, so that I can 
>follow the threads of particular subjects more closely, and save the ones I 
>intend to save.  What usually happens is that I either forward to myself 
>those I want to save and print, or I lose them in a spirit of being 
>overwhelmed by mail (whose repetitive subject headings often disguise their 
>content)...this happened twice recently after I was out of town a few days. 

Your ability to sort depends on the features of your newsreader.
I use Forte's Agent. I think it's pretty good. Of course there's a
learning curve that's your responsibility, but the help files pretty
good.
I'm sure there's a free trial version still available called "Free
Agent"
Do a search on Forte and Free Agent!
Chuck

,
Don't bother me.
 I've got my three miracle minimum.
 When the Pope signs my sainthood papers, I'm outta here!


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Re: CS>How Long

1999-07-08 Thread Charles King
On Wed, 07 Jul 1999 23:32:59 -0400, Griz Adams 
wrote:

>This spawns a question for me. To fight warts is CS used topically or
>internally?
>
>Jim "Griz" Adams

Where are the warts?

No, really, topically.
Chuck

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Re: CS>Re alligator clips

1999-07-08 Thread Charles King
On Wed, 7 Jul 1999 23:23:03 EDT, skyl...@aol.com wrote:

><< What was it again that I should be 
> careful NOT to buy when I buy 
> alligator clips?  Lead solder? >>
>
>Best wishes, Taylor
>

The thing that's important is... NOTHING in the water (distilled)
except .999 (or better) SILVER
Chuck

And let not the sands of time get in your lunch.


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Re: CS for Epilepsy?

1999-07-08 Thread EJohns9525
In a message dated 7/6/99 7:26:09 PM Central Daylight Time, b...@lcia.com 
writes:

<< > Has anyone used CS for Epilepsy? My father has grand mal seizures and has
 > tried about everything, even drugs won't control it.
 > 
 > Just asking...it would be really helpful if any could respond. Anyone aware
 > of forums for Epilepsy?
 > Susan L
   
   Try Colloidal Gold.
   Ron Brennen
 > --
 
Susan L,

This has  an epilesy recovery story.http://www.sharinghealth.com/aug98.htm

edith


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Re: CS>Re alligator clips

1999-07-08 Thread Skylake
Thanks Chuck!  For both levels of advice :?)
Taylor

<< The thing that's important is... NOTHING in the water (distilled)
 except .999 (or better) SILVER
Chuck
 
 And let not the sands of time get in your lunch. >>


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Re: CS>The other silver list...

1999-07-08 Thread Skylake
Dear Chuck,

Thanks for the new wrinkle in the brain.  This is the first I've heard of a 
"newsreader."

<< Your ability to sort depends on the features of your newsreader.
 I use Forte's Agent.  >>

Best wishes, Taylor


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Re: CS>Infected Tonsils

1999-07-08 Thread Marsha Hallett



Hello,
I am really new at taking CS...my husband has not taken any yet...he now 
has infected tonsils...i wonder if i can put some of the CS in a clean throat 
spray bottle and have him spray his throat?  I have some 5 ppm and some 10 ppm 
made...Since he has not used this yet, what strength should we use and how 
much?  Any help would be appreciated...
thanks in advance
Patty Wolfe

Dear Patty, The sprayer should help, but also make sure he swallows a 
goodly amount to kill the bugs via the bloodstream. I took 3 big swallows a day 
of my homebrew when I had Lyme, 3 years ago. Don`t know for sure what the PPM 
was.
Good luck!!
Marsha


Re: CS>Input, even second opinions, always helps...

1999-07-08 Thread Ivan Anderson
Taylor,
Let me recombine the questions ;-)

> For a 76 oz CS maker,
>
> << Will a set up of 3 9V batteries be up to the
>  job?   If so, how many runs do you think?>>
>
<< Should the silver wires I buy be long
 enough to almost touch bottom, or will 6 inch wires do? >>

<< What was it again that I should be
 careful NOT to buy when I buy
 alligator clips?  Lead solder? >>

<< How long will I have to run the cs maker to
 get 76 oz of distilled water to 10 ppm? >>

I can answer two.

It doesn't matter what type of alligator clips you buy, as long as
they make good contact with the silver electrodes and make no contact
with the water.

Oh, make that one.

Your other questions lie in the 'try it and see' basket.

The longer the electrodes the more current you will draw and the
quicker the reaction will be.
How long it will take depends on your 'recipe'. Voltage, current limit
(or not), electrode length, distance apart. 76 oz = 2.25L, if the
electrodes are 6" long, 2" apart, you run with 27V and have no current
limit, then I would guess 10ppm in about 3 hours.
How long the batteries would last, I don't know. Why not buy a small
power supply, say 24V, this would allow for repeatable results and
enable proper evaluation of test runs. Do two or three runs of
different time lengths and send samples to Robert Berger for testing.

Good Luck - Ivan


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Re: CS>Infected Tonsils

1999-07-08 Thread Ivan Anderson

- Original Message -
From: patty wolfe 
To: Silver List 
Sent: Thursday, 8 July 1999 12:52
Subject: CS>Infected Tonsils


<>

Patty,
5 or 10, maybe 10 in this case. Have your husband gargle (for as long
as possible), and swallow, a mouthful of CS 4 or 5 times a day or as
the need arrises. He should feel instant relief.

Ivan


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Re: CS>[CS] DMSO as transport mech

1999-07-08 Thread Ivan Anderson
A lot of people on the list are mixing MSM ( a derivative of DMSO but
without the garlic odour problem) with CS. It is especially helpful
when using topically as CS does not wet the skin or absorb easily.
Also useful as eye spray and nasal spray.
Please be aware that MSM and DMSO are solvents, and will transport
anything on the skin into the body, toxic or not, and if taken
internally will enhance the action of  the transported drug or CS some
four-fold.

Regards - Ivan

- Original Message -
From: Michael Giammarino 
To: Sonic International 
Sent: Thursday, 8 July 1999 14:40
Subject: CS>[CS] DMSO as transport mech


I am experimenting with DMSO mixed with CS.

DMSO is a very good transport mechanism, it passes through the skin
and takes anything mixed with it into the system. I read years back
that spy agency's mixed poison with it in order to get it into the
system of a target, with great success.

 I wonder if it would be good as a transport mechanism for CS. For
topical uses, to get it absorbed into the surrounding tissue as well
as the effected area.

Any idea's out there?

Thanks

Mike



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Re: CS>[CS] DMSO as transport mech

1999-07-08 Thread Wong111
In a message dated 7/7/99 4:37:41 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
sonic-internatio...@worldnet.att.net writes:

<< DMSO is a very good transport mechanism, it passes through the skin and 
takes anything mixed with it into the system. I read years back that spy 
agency's mixed poison with it in order to get it into the system of a target, 
with great success.
 
  I wonder if it would be good as a transport mechanism for CS. For topical 
uses, to get it absorbed into the surrounding tissue as well as the effected 
area.
 
 Any idea's out there? >>

Wouldn't use it on insect bites.Will disseminate rather than localize poison.
wong


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Re: Cs and sinus>>>>Marshall

1999-07-08 Thread Ivan Anderson
Donna,
I have just been through a nasty flu, which left those around me
incapacitated, except for those taking CS :-)
I found I really had to up my internal dose to 2oz (60ml) and spray
and sniff CS and spray into the mouth whilst breathing in, and the odd
spray into the eyes. I took a small spray bottle with 20ppm straight
to a cold and windy building site where I am working long hours,
perched 50 metres up on a scaffold welding stainless steel pipe (need
some instant money). I had that spray bottle steaming , but boy it
saved my life, I didn't feel brilliant but good enough to feel
confident I could work safely.
I just sprayed when I felt the need, you can tell when it wears off.
Maybe every half an hour or more at the height of my discomfort.
Five days and I feel normal again.

Regards - Ivan

> Hi all,
>   My firned takes 40ppm CS orally but wants to use it for a sinus
infection.
> She wants to know if she should dilute it, and if so what with.
Also how
> often and how much should she take.  I told her to put in into a
nasal
> sprayer but didn't know any other info on this subject.
> Donna
>
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CS>Copper and gold trade

1999-07-08 Thread Ivan Anderson
Hi PY,

Copper colloid can be made the same way as CS. Gold requires submersed
arcing I believe.
How about sharing your research on water etc. anyway ;-)
We would be most interested.
Thanks

Ivan.

- Original Message -
From: P Yanko 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, 8 July 1999 08:20
Subject: CS>Thread format-great idea.


> HI, List.
>
>  Is their anyway one can look back over past messages on the list,
perhaps
> this may save everyone a lot of hassle, you question may have
allready been
> previously answered,
>
> personally i am still trying to find out how to go about making
gold/copper
> colloids.
> How about a trade, I will share my research into water type, storage
&
> temperature effects.
> on c/s production somthing no-one appears to take seriously.
>
> If you dont want to post this info on the list, then
eagl...@xtra.co.nz
> P Y



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Re: CS>Question re larger quantity production

1999-07-08 Thread Reid Smith
>On the Verge of Being a Pest, dear List...
>Have I stumped ye?  Am I a pest?  I can't help but notice that my recent 
>questions went unanswered.  Let me separate the questions, in hopes that it 
>somehow helps:
><< How long will I have to run the cs maker to 
get 76 oz of distilled water to 10 ppm? >>
>Best wishes,
>Taylor
  
   How many oz of water do you use to make a batch? 
   How long does it take to make 10ppm? 

Take Care 
Reid



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CS>Fw: 15k

1999-07-08 Thread JD Klein



>I have been using HVAC   ,,, 15,000volts...
>
>my previous  batches have been completely colorless and clear.
>
>the last one i made while  came out a cloudy and
>hazy silvery gray (slightly bluish grey smoke)
>
> My guess is:1)  Dillons brand distilled water
>
>2)the socket was not properly grounded.
>
>
>
>i noticed an extremely small amount of floating flake(about 8 pieces)
>
 the effects of shining a  laser:
cylinder of light the size of a 1st grader's oversized pencil   with a
pattern of tiny spots reminscent of a living skin... like the texture of a
plant magnified.
>
>[my previous batches had an extremely small beam only 20% as large as
the latest batch]

ANY SUGGESTIONS?

thanks,  jd!





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CS>Candida Forum?

1999-07-08 Thread Geoff & Phyllis Knapp
I would like to know more about the forum and the experiences with CS and
candida. Can anyone share?
Thanks
Phyllis


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Re: CS>Candida Forum?

1999-07-08 Thread patty wolfe
I just typed candida forum in a search engine and there it was...

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To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Date: Thursday, July 08, 1999 7:39 AM
Subject: CS>Candida Forum?


>I would like to know more about the forum and the experiences with CS and
>candida. Can anyone share?
>Thanks
>Phyllis
>
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Re: CS versus Feline Leukemia

1999-07-08 Thread Susan Epstein
Hi Marsha, I'm forwarding your reply to a friend of mine who has feline 
leukemia positive kitties. She's treating them with natural remedies under the 
guidance of a holistic vet, but she's on the look-out for other non-toxic 
treatments for viruses. Thanks for the help. Susan E
-Original Message-
From: Marsha Hallett 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Date: Tuesday, July 06, 1999 11:25 PM
Subject: CS versus Feline Leukemia



: CS>Unidentified subject!


Hi, I'm new to the list. Does anyone have any experience using CS for 
feline leukemia? Would appreciate help or info. on this. Thanks,
 
 Susan Epstein
 
Dear Susan, No experience here, I`m a dog person. But I understand 
feline leukemia is a viral disease, thus CS ought to fix it!! If you have a 
kitty with it, by all means go ahead and try it! Nothing to lose...
Do you want directions for making a simple CS generator?
Good luck!
Marsha, owned by Pugs Tashy and Willy, who have definitely benefitted 
from CS...


Re: CS>How Long

1999-07-08 Thread Marshall Dudley
I always recommend internal for maintnance anyway, but for warts you need to
also use topically.  I have found that a aloe vera/CS mixture works very
well on warts, topically.

Marshall

Griz Adams wrote:

> At 11:10 PM 7/7/99 -0400, Marshall Dudley wrote:
> >For warts it can take several weeks.
> >
> >Marshall
> >
> This spawns a question for me. To fight warts is CS used topically or
> internally?
>
> Jim "Griz" Adams
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Re: CS>[CS] DMSO as transport mech

1999-07-08 Thread Charles Marcus
> Like MSM, DMSO is available at vet supply establishments and 
> feed supplement for horses stores. In my area, the closest is
> AGWAY. Really cheap too, about 1/2 Health food store prices.
>Chuck

Two things:

1) Is it pharmaceutical grade?

and

2) Some people might be interested to learn that
L-Tryptophan is available from the same kinds of
sources - just be sure and DON'T tell them you are
buying it for your OWN consumption. Just tell them you
have a depressed dog or cat.

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Re: Cs and sinus>>>>Marshall

1999-07-08 Thread Charles Marcus
> I found I really had to up my internal dose to 2oz (60ml) and 
> spray

Why is everyone so conservative when it comes to
amounts? I drink GLASSES of the stuff at a time, and it
only works that much better and faster.

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Re: CS>Copper and gold trade

1999-07-08 Thread Charles Marcus
> Hi PY,
> 
> Copper colloid can be made the same way as CS. Gold requires
> submersed arcing I believe. How about sharing your research
> on water etc. anyway ;-) We would be most interested.
> Thanks
>
> Ivan.

Not that I don't trust you Ivan (actually, I trust very
few people), is there any research  available on this?
How do you KNOW it can be made the same way? How about
Zinc?

Thanks

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RE: CS>Hepatitis C

1999-07-08 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
Oral  use of CS will prevent the occurrence of Herpes Simplex, seemingly 
eliminating the virus from the body.  I had them a couple of times per 
year.  I do not have them anymore.

James Osbourne, Holmes

a...@trail.com

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Sent:   Wednesday, July 07, 1999 5:24 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject:Re: CS>Hepatitis C


   I can tell you that it works good on cold sores which is a virus.
I have a friend that has eliminated their cold sore problem COMPLETELY
using CS on a piece of cloth held on the lipps.

Take Care
Reid



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Re: CS>Question re larger quantity production

1999-07-08 Thread boberger
Taylor;

Send me your parameters and I will make an estimate for you.

Robert




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Re: CS>Re alligator clips

1999-07-08 Thread boberger
Taylor;

Do not worry about alligator clips. One does not normally put the clips in
the waster.

Robert

skyl...@aol.com wrote:



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RE: Cs and sinus>>>>Marshall

1999-07-08 Thread Anthony W. Nettis
I agree!   I drink ounces of CS every day for maintenance.  If I feel the
least bit ill I will drink a cup or two.

Tony

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From: Charles Marcus [mailto:cmar...@avana.net]
Sent: Thursday, July 08, 1999 10:27 AM
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Subject: Re: Cs and sinusMarshall


> I found I really had to up my internal dose to 2oz (60ml) and
> spray

Why is everyone so conservative when it comes to
amounts? I drink GLASSES of the stuff at a time, and it
only works that much better and faster.

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Re: CS>Input, even second opinions, always helps...

1999-07-08 Thread boberger
Taylor;

3- 9 v bat. will make 16 oz of CS with 1"spacing and 3-1/2" immersion in two
hours.

So make five runs of 16 or ten hours. with 76 oz.

Robert

skyl...@aol.com wrote:

> For a 76 oz CS maker,
>
> << Will a set up of 3 9V batteries be up to the
>  job?   If so, how many runs do you think?>>
>
> Best wishes,
> Taylor
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Re: Cs and sinus>>>>Marshall

1999-07-08 Thread Marshall Dudley
There have been rare reports of facial tics occuring when large amounts are
taken.  They clear up when the intake is reduced though.

Marshall

Charles Marcus wrote:

> > I found I really had to up my internal dose to 2oz (60ml) and
> > spray
>
> Why is everyone so conservative when it comes to
> amounts? I drink GLASSES of the stuff at a time, and it
> only works that much better and faster.
>
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Re: CS>Copper and gold trade

1999-07-08 Thread Marshall Dudley
A few months ago we made some colloidal copper, same way as the silver
(HVAC).  Testing found it to be less effective than silver on killing
pathogens, so we did not explore it any more.

We attempted making some gold the same way, but have no way to measure gold,
the spectrophotometer does not have a "gold" kit.  Using conductivity
measurements we found very little increase in conductivity, so it appears
that gold does not work as well at any rate.  We plan on doing some more
testing shortly though.

Marshall

Charles Marcus wrote:

> > Hi PY,
> >
> > Copper colloid can be made the same way as CS. Gold requires
> > submersed arcing I believe. How about sharing your research
> > on water etc. anyway ;-) We would be most interested.
> > Thanks
> >
> > Ivan.
>
> Not that I don't trust you Ivan (actually, I trust very
> few people), is there any research  available on this?
> How do you KNOW it can be made the same way? How about
> Zinc?
>
> Thanks
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Re: CS>Hepatitis C

1999-07-08 Thread Marshall Dudley
Herpes Simplex hides in the nerve ganglea.  CS will keep it from appearing,
but I am not so sure it will actually get to that which is "hiding".  Are
you taking a maintnance dose of CS?  If so it should prevent reappearance.
If you do not, and still have not had any reoccurances, then that might mean
it does get to the hiding virus.  If so that would be good news.

Marshall

James Osbourne, Holmes wrote:

> Oral  use of CS will prevent the occurrence of Herpes Simplex, seemingly
> eliminating the virus from the body.  I had them a couple of times per
> year.  I do not have them anymore.
>
> James Osbourne, Holmes
>
> a...@trail.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From:   Reid Smith [SMTP:rsm...@intrnet.net]
> Sent:   Wednesday, July 07, 1999 5:24 PM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject:Re: CS>Hepatitis C
>
>I can tell you that it works good on cold sores which is a virus.
> I have a friend that has eliminated their cold sore problem COMPLETELY
> using CS on a piece of cloth held on the lipps.
>
> Take Care
> Reid
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RE: Cs and sinus>>>>Marshall

1999-07-08 Thread Anthony W. Nettis
What is a facial tic?

-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, July 08, 1999 11:08 AM
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Subject: Re: Cs and sinusMarshall


There have been rare reports of facial tics occuring when large amounts are
taken.  They clear up when the intake is reduced though.

Marshall

Charles Marcus wrote:

> > I found I really had to up my internal dose to 2oz (60ml) and
> > spray
>
> Why is everyone so conservative when it comes to
> amounts? I drink GLASSES of the stuff at a time, and it
> only works that much better and faster.
>
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CS>Sinus Infection cured!!!Yayy!

1999-07-08 Thread Kato109
Dear Everyone,
this list is so amazing and the amount of information on it so huge that I 
end up only reading and never seem to get the time to write.
But first, a huge thank you to everyone who encouraged me in persisting in 
using the CS for my sinus infection.
Unfortunately, the CS I made myself with my beck's silver pulser was not good 
enough or strong enough or something because I tried taking it and spraying 
it in my nose for a couple of days with no success.
But then I bought some 200ppm .0001 CS nasal spray from the store, and some 
500ppm to hold on my tongue against the roof of my mouth and I could 
literally feel my sinuses clearing when I held it against the roof of my 
mouth. 
Within 48 hrs my quite serious sinus infection was gone. Yay!!! The last 
time I tried to get rid of a sinus infection I ended up on three months of 
antibiotics which only made me worse and they wanted to do sinus surgery and 
eight months later I am still fighting candida and a parasite from the 
antibiotic effects  and here there is a way to get rid of it in 48 hrs 
with no side effects.
I am so so grateful and excited. (told a friend and she cleared hers in a 
week with 40ppm storebought spray)
My only worry is my herb doctor who tells me that CS is toxic and will cause 
scarring in the brain and kill brain cells, especially when used on the 
sinuses. He says he had a patient whose brain "went south" from using a CS 
nasal spray.
So, I understand that there are no studies done on safety because who is 
going to fund them when CS is so cheap and easy to make on your own - but are 
there any articles at all that I could find to help refute him? He xeroxed me 
an article from a book on toxic effects of metals and it said "Large doses of 
colloidal silver administered intravenously to experimental animals produced 
death due to pulmonary edema and congestion. Hemolysis and resulting bone 
marrow hyperplasia have been reported. Chronic bronchitis has also been 
reported to result from medicinal use of colloidal silver (Browning1969; 
Luckey et al 1975) "
Has anyone read these articles? Obviously we are not mainlining it in large 
quantities so I don't know if it even applies. 
I think I would like to take some on a regular basis so that I can help 
support my system while fighting off this candida/blastocystis, but I'm still 
a little worried about safety.
And I have to get my setup working, so will have lots of questions but will 
save them for the next post.
This is just a huge thank you.
Take care,
Katarina
P.S. Can anyone suggest a good list or place to go for help with this 
candada? I've tried so many things and done so much reading and it's still 
just not working .
Also, is there anyone on the list other than Margaret who used Becks silver 
pulser to make their CS and could help with additional advice?
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Re: CS>Input, even second opinions, always helps...

1999-07-08 Thread Skylake
Thanks so much, Ivan...let me make sure I am clear about a couple of  things 
in your post...

<< The longer the electrodes the more current you will draw and the
 quicker the reaction will be.
 How long it will take depends on your 'recipe'. Voltage, current limit
 (or not), electrode length, distance apart. 76 oz = 2.25L, if the
 electrodes are 6" long, 2" apart, you run with 27V and have no current
 limit, then I would guess 10ppm in about 3 hours.>>

If my wires are 9" in the water (at that length, they would almost touch the 
bottom of the container) and one or two inches apart (does it 
matter?)...Would that work?  Is there something I should know about the 
distance between the wires v. length of the wires?  Would the length of time 
be shortened by the extra wire?  Would I run the test partially by sight 
evaluation?  (Stop one test at guesstimated time, another when the golden 
color appears?)

Ivan, re your next thought (below)... 

<>

...I'm hoping by now you are realizing you are talking to a nursery school 
student in connection with these electrical issues.  I was thinking 3   9V 
batteries (the rectangular type, with the positive and negative connections 
on the top of the battery) was a small power supply.  I don't know what 24V 
is...is that larger or smaller than 3 9V batteries?  What sort of power 
supply is a 24V?  A car battery?  

Believe me, it is a little painful to be this ignorant!

<< Do two or three runs of
 different time lengths and send samples to Robert Berger for testing.>>

Thanks, I will do this...

I appreciate your help so much!
Taylor
 


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Re: CS>Question re larger quantity production

1999-07-08 Thread Skylake
Hi Reid, thanks for getting into this...

<< How many oz of water do you use to make a batch? 
How long does it take to make 10ppm?>> 
 
 The container I bought to use holds 76 oz.  I thought I would make a full 
container each time, because both my son and I are going to start using CS 
for candida, 8 oz a day each.  (So about a 4 day supply.)

I haven't begun yet, and the length of time it takes to make the 10ppm (the 
concentration I am interested in) is one of my questions.

Is this a process where I will have to sit with the maker to wipe wires every 
time?  Or, once I have a bit of experience with the proper run time, can it 
run on its own?

Any help is much appreciated.  
Taylor


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Re: CS>Candida Forum?

1999-07-08 Thread Skylake
Sorry, Phyllis, I must have missed your post...

<< >I would like to know more about the forum and the experiences with CS and
 >candida. Can anyone share?
 >Thanks
 >Phyllis >>

Is this the URL you got?  

http://www.healthyawareness.com/Candida/index.htm

It is an excellent place.  Use the forum's search function for colloidal 
silver, and you will find everything written thus far.  I believe it is there 
(althought it might have been the Yeast L list service, might have been here, 
on the silver list) where I learned about a couple of people who completely 
cured the overgrowth situation with 8 oz of CS daily.  Acupuncture, combined 
with the treatment, may be a factor (as it was in these cases).

I'm on  a mission in the candida cure department.  It isn't a pleasant or 
easy condition, but my concern goes to an even deeper place.  My son is 14 
(and has candida).  I recently read that it can sometimes cause impotence in 
some men, and I don't want him to grow up to that as a future.  I'd like to 
get rid of the whole problem before he has his first sexual experience.  You 
can imagine how mortified he would be if he thought I had written this 
(although he doesn't yet know that candida can cause this problem).

Please feel free to email me directly.  This is quite my focus on the 
internet.  It takes a couple of hours a day to keep up with all of the 
information, but I try to stay focused on the mission.

Best wishes, 
Taylor



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Re: CS>[CS] DMSO as transport mech

1999-07-08 Thread Scharbach
Ok, Is MSM a refined version of DMSO?I have read that the FDA is
regulating DMSO
because there are so many impurities in it.

Sparrow

>  Just received email from Janis and she informed me that her healthfood
>store has told her that DMSO has been discontinued again.  I don't know if
>anyone else has heard this but she asked that I pass this on to you all.
>Donna



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Re: CS> Wire is here!

1999-07-08 Thread Campbell
Dbl. order for me please Marsha.
S. Clay Campbell
1481 Blackberry Dr.
Fairbanks, Alaska  99712
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Re: CS> Wire is here!

1999-07-08 Thread Campbell
OOOps


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Re: CS>[CS] DMSO as transport mech

1999-07-08 Thread Charles King
On Thu, 08 Jul 1999 10:07:03 -0400, "Charles Marcus"
 wrote:

>Two things:
>
>1) Is it pharmaceutical grade?
>
I dunno, I seldom worry about that. Is your peach cobbler
pharmacuetical grade?
Been using vet dmso for over 20 years. Hmmm could explain a lot of
irrational behavior.
>
>2) Some people might be interested to learn that
>L-Tryptophan is available from the same kinds of
>sources - just be sure and DON'T tell them you are
>buying it for your OWN consumption. Just tell them you
>have a depressed dog or cat.

Cool! Didn't know that.
Throw out a tidbit, get another back!
Way Cool!!
Chuck

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Make fun of his religion
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Re: CS>[CS] DMSO as transport mech

1999-07-08 Thread James Vernon, Allison
> >2) Some people might be interested to learn that
> >L-Tryptophan is available from the same kinds of
> >sources - just be sure and DON'T tell them you are
> >buying it for your OWN consumption. Just tell them you
> >have a depressed dog or cat.

would this be the same l-tryptophan that is created when one warms up their
milk?

James Vernon, Allison
Allison's Apothecary



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Re: CS>[CS] DMSO as transport mech OT tryptophan

1999-07-08 Thread JD Klein
Can you explain the reasoning behind the warming of milk at bedtime?  Does
it enhance the activity of tryptophan?

I personally enjoy 5-Hydroxy-Tryptophan   5-HTP   which is 10 times more
effective than plain tryptophan... according to all I have read.

Health food stores usually sell the 5-HTP extracted from Griffonia... a
legume which is native to Africa, or at least is the source location now.

Extracted 5-HTP is much safer in regards to the microbiological fermentation
process utilized to make tryptophan.  I trust Nature's organic synthesis
techniques over and above anyone else I have met.


-Original Message-
From: James Vernon, Allison 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Date: Thursday, July 08, 1999 2:06 PM
Subject: Re: CS>[CS] DMSO as transport mech


>> >2) Some people might be interested to learn that
>> >L-Tryptophan is available from the same kinds of
>> >sources - just be sure and DON'T tell them you are
>> >buying it for your OWN consumption. Just tell them you
>> >have a depressed dog or cat.
>
>would this be the same l-tryptophan that is created when one warms up their
>milk?
>
>James Vernon, Allison
>Allison's Apothecary
>
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Re: CS>[CS] DMSO as transport mech

1999-07-08 Thread Bill Schramm
MSM is methyl sulfonyl methane or dimethyl sulfone
DMSO is dimethyl sulfoxide or methyl sulfoxy methane

the two different names for each substance represent American CE and IUPAC
standards for naming.

In any case, although related and one can be manufactured from the other,
they are NOT the same substance.  MSM has one additional oxygen per
molecule.  At room temperature MSM is solid white crystals, DMSO is a clear
liquid.
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From: Scharbach 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Date: Thursday, July 08, 1999 9:49 AM
Subject: Re: CS>[CS] DMSO as transport mech


>Ok, Is MSM a refined version of DMSO?I have read that the FDA is
>regulating DMSO
>because there are so many impurities in it.
>
>Sparrow
>
>>  Just received email from Janis and she informed me that her healthfood
>>store has told her that DMSO has been discontinued again.  I don't know if
>>anyone else has heard this but she asked that I pass this on to you all.
>>Donna
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Re: CS>[CS] DMSO as transport mech

1999-07-08 Thread Scharbach
Ivan wrote:



>A lot of people on the list are mixing MSM ( a derivative of DMSO but
>without the garlic odour problem) with CS.

Ahh, thank you Ivan, y ou have answered my next question.I have used
DMSO
on a lamb who had a bad joint problem, (heee hee, I'm getting this picture
of a
lamb kicking back smoking an illegal substance. . . . . .;~D) and I
didn't use
gloves (as recommended) when applying it to her knee.   I could "taste" the
garlic
INSTANTLY!

Sparrow


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Re: CS>Question re larger quantity production

1999-07-08 Thread Reid Smith
>Hi Reid, thanks for getting into this...
><< How many oz of water do you use to make a batch? 
>How long does it take to make 10ppm?>> 

> The container I bought to use holds 76 oz.  I thought I would make a full 
>container each time, because both my son and I are going to start using CS 
>for candida, 8 oz a day each.  (So about a 4 day supply.)
>I haven't begun yet, and the length of time it takes to make the 10ppm (the 
>concentration I am interested in) is one of my questions.
>Is this a process where I will have to sit with the maker to wipe wires every 
>time?  Or, once I have a bit of experience with the proper run time, can it 
>run on its own?
>Any help is much appreciated.  
>Taylor

  How are you going to make it? Do you have a machine or are you going
to use 3 batterys?

Take Care 
Reid



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RE: CS>swimmer's ear

1999-07-08 Thread BANDER, MARGIE F
Kris,

You could send me information on where to sign up for the herbal list?

Thanks
Margie

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Subject: CS>swimmer's ear


> Could vodka be used as a substitute for the isopropyl?  Would it help the
> evaporation?  We use the iso and vinegar mix at my house for swimmer's
ear.
> I didn't know it was harmful.
> Samm
>
  I read recently on an herbal list of the many harmful effects of
isopropyl alcohol only touched on lightly here.  It was reccomended to
switch to everclear (hard to find) or vodka.  Just tried it, and it
worked.  You can also get pharmacy alcohol, which is not iso.  Just read
the labels.
Kris


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CS>Copper & Gold

1999-07-08 Thread P Yanko
Thanks to those that replied at least this is a start on a little known
subject.
YES i know this is silver list, But it is a colloid ?
The knowledge base is growing..
I tried making copper like c/s was not pleased with the result, must be
another way.

1: Firstly if making precision anything, remove as many variables as
possible

Water.
1: Rain (direct) into glass, not off the roofing, or as in my case pure
spring water gives the best results.
If you start with bad water you will always have bad water,
Proved this by first making a still.,(Beginner of course) using a tin plated
boiler into a stainless condenser, got a tinny taste, tried aluminium, got
cloudy results making c/s.
Under those conditions, spring water tasted best, I now use all stainless,
But pyrex glass would be better I think. Commercial distiller machine water,
tastes of plastic, some that i sampled anyway. didnt use it. Once asked some
sellers of these machines,  (Trick Question) If I were to put Cyanide
(Possum poison) in the water and you were to distill it in your marvellous
machine, will you drink the distilled water ?
Answers were allways NO!

Storage of distilled water:
Use washed glass only (rinse well ) , New plastic
bottles are contaminated, oil mist particles if blow moulded, also some very
toxic mould release chemicals can be present. (silicone ?) used bottles are
probably not as bad. Although I have read somewhere that contamination from
the plastic itself is  possible.

Temp:
This has a definite effect on quality and speed, and current flow after much
experimentation I have found a constant temp of 110>F  works best, dont
preheat in microwave, stand your bottles on a warmer pad and adjust water
temp. takes a little time to set up. You could use a stove element but this
is dangerous and difficult to repeat reliably and if the glass should break
or you accidently spill it. you got problems c/s possibly wont fix.
Warm your next batch of water at the same time. Temp influences current flow
markedly.

Constant current:
I am making c/s at only 7 volts using pulsed dc. using about 2oz starter c/s
in to 28oz. Glass Jar.
Will make 28oz in about 2-3 hours, (sorry never bothered to time it exactly)
no sediment or floating particles. no filtering.
my power supply can put out 6 amps, current actually used is very dependant
on the area of electrode immersed in the water. What this means is the
process will only draw as much as it needs until it reaches runaway. (low
resistance)
With the use of a line current meter and monitor. (Few diodes and a
transistor,and relay.)
My unit switches off automatically when this current flow reaches 8ma,
(adjustable) this means a set and forget, no overcurrent possible, same
result every time. More than 10ma  should never be required. At 8ma current
flow my ppm is correct, and the process is complete. You would have to work
out your own completion ppm and current flows as this will depend on your
electrode length, size and spacing. small diameter wire, under 1mm is not
suitable. At least 1.2mm+ is needed.
otherwise your surface area to space available in a 28oz jar just wont work
out very well. Bar shaped electrode would be better, but run whatcha brung.

Happy Fiddling.
PY


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CS>Candida.

1999-07-08 Thread Kato109
Hi Taylor,
I have also been fighting Candida, and have found some pretty effective ways 
to bring it down - I just seem to be having a hard time getting the last 
little bit out.

I'd love to share information - on or off the list, since it isn't explicitly 
CS related - so if you want to, feel free to email me privately.
There is a doctor here in LA with a really great protocol which would 
probably go well alongside the CS --- I'd be glad to tell you about it. And 
I'm very curious about what you know about the use of CS for it.
Take care,
Katarina


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