Re: CSHOT WATER? 170VDC?
Marshall, Thank you for your reply. I forgot to mention that I also use an aquarium pump to supply large air bubbles in the water to keep it moving (instead of stirring). Do you ever make a gallon? Have you found anything that will keep the electrodes fairly clean after many hours (using cold water)? Very low current did not work for me. If you have the time maybe you could send out your recipe for making 16 oz. and 1 gal. You seem to be more knowledgeable than most of the others in this group. I appreciate your comments, Bil - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, November 28, 1999 10:27 AM Subject: Re: CSHOT WATER? 170VDC? 2001 TV VCR wrote: I have been making CS for some time. I started out with a 16 oz. jar and was told to use boiling hot distilled water and no salt to have the smallest particle size. The hotter the water the larger the particle size. We use freezing water to keep the particle size as small as possible. If you particle size is too large due to dissolved gases, then the way to fix that is to boil the water to drive out the dissolved gases, such as carbon dioxide. But you let it cool before using it. Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSMore on olive leaf - interesting, but long
Excerpt from olive leaf article. Inquiring minds can read more about this at http://users.quake.net/xdcrlab/hp/olea.html AOL member can link to A HREF=http://users.quake.net/xdcrlab/hp/olea.html; Olive Leaf Extract/A Clinical Perspective -- -- Clinically, the olive leaf extract has been used for a relatively short time. Health professionals began using it early in 1995 when it first became available. Although we do not have long-term perspectives as yet, initial results are very positive. We see a very promising and unique herbal with multiple applications. It shows considerable therapeutic action against many common conditions. In short, it appears to be living up to its unique background and expectations. From research and clinical experience to date, we can say that supplemental olive leaf extract may be beneficial in the treatment for conditions caused by, or associated with, a virus, retrovirus, bacterium, or protozoan. Among such conditions are influenza, the common cold, meningitis, Epstein-Barr Virus (EBV), encephalitis, herpes I and II, human herpes virus 6 and 7, shingles, HIV/ARC/AIDS, chronic fatigue, hepatitis B, pneumonia, tuberculosis, gonorrhea, malaria, dengue, bacteremia, severe diarrhea, blood poisoning, and dental, ear, urinary tract and surgical infections. In our clinic, we use olive leaf extract for a variety of infectious and chronic conditions. We also believe that many people who lead stressful lives or who may be particularly susceptible to colds and viruses may benefit from long-term use of olive leaf extract as a preventive agent. As I mentioned earlier, I am constantly surprised by unexpected benefits reported by patients. This indicates that we are perhaps just scratching the surface in our understanding of phytochemical benefits. Patients have told me about improved psoriasis, normalization of arrhythmias (heart beat irregularities), and less pain from hemorroids, toothaches and chronically achy joints. I myself cured a chronic toenail fungal infection after starting on the supplement. It had not responded to the many other nutrients that I take. One woman with bad allergies reported significant improvement and a level of energy she hadn't felt for years. One elderly male with severe arrhythmia told me his condition had vastly improved in about eight days just from taking olive leaf extract alone. A woman with mild arrhythmia said her condition improved substantially while she took the supplement and then slowly became irregular again after she ran out. We know from the oleuropein research done in the 1960s that the substance improves blood flood to the heart and acts to normalize arrhythmias. Currently, we are learning much about the cardiovascular benefits of the phytochemical compounds found in grape seeds, onions, kale, green beans, broccoli, and other vegetables. It will be interesting to see what benefits the particular phytochemicals in olive leaf extract produce for heart and arterial health. Phil Selinsky, a naturopathic doctor at the Institute for Holistic Studies in Santa Barbara, and biochemist Arnold Takemoto, who has been developing patient nutritional programs on behalf of physicians in Arizona for 15 years, have found olive leaf extract to be an effective addition to their array of natural healing tools. After using the supplement in dozens of cases for over a year, Selinsky is impressed with the benefits and looks forward to continued use and greater understanding about its most effective applications. There is no doubt that olive leaf extract has real healing power. In a moment I will go into much greater detail on how it has helped patients. It is important to keep in mind, however, that like any nutritional supplement it should not be considered a cure-all or panacea. In holistic practices such as mine, individual supplements are part of a comprehensive program that includes better diet, exercise, and stress control methods. That's how we maximize health and minimize symptoms. In such a program, a patient may start with supplement X, Y and Z, get involved in an exercise program, and experience perhaps 50 percent relief for a given condition. That's a lot of relief but then we keep trying to improve the situation. We now add another supplement, let's say the olive leaf extract, and we get another degree of improvement, often quite large. In this manner, we continually tailor the program of an individual patient for the best results. And in this scheme of things, olive leaf extract is making a very positive contribution. It complements all the good things patients are doing. There is always the possiblity that one ingredient, one supplement, can fill a large gap or particular need in the body and by itself lead to major improvement. We see that happen all the time. But usually it is all the elements in a
RE: CSTDS
Dennis, It is unlikely that a home RO system will provide pure enough water for CS. Look as the specs on % of TDS removal, and compare that with the TDS of the source water. James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com -Original Message- From: D G [SMTP:djg5...@webtv.net] Sent: Saturday, November 27, 1999 8:41 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Re: CSTDS if the filter system works i'm gonna get it. even bottled water isn't that good here. they use reverse osmosis and it misses a few things i think. the filter system uses a one micron filter in the third and final stage. Dennis 51/50 24/7 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSLiver damage??? ;0/
Sounds to me like a doctor shifting the blame from the ABX he prescribed. If this woman read the full FDA-mandated labels (sometimes they're more like books) on the drugs she took, chances are she'll find liver damage listed as a side effect on one or more. If she switched to CS from ABX and/or left a doctor's care (spelled receivables account), it's quite likely the MD (Money Doctor) would blame the CS for her later-discovered liver damage. Even if she only used CS supplementally, an MD is likely to blame whatever the patient did that wasn't by his instruction for any mishap that could have been caused by his actions. I have know many MDs and was once married to a very smart nurse, and in my experience MDs use the scientific method about as rigorously as your average 7-11 clerk. The few I have known who were scientific and logical in their approach were also those most interested in healing their patients and least interested in making money; also least likely to recommend or prescribe anything potentially damaging. One ear-ear-nose-throat specialist I once saw, who was also a plastic surgeon and head/neck cancer specialist, would not prescribe any antibiotic until he had a culture back from the lab and knew exactly what he was trying to eradicate. I once had a blocked eustachian tube that had filled my middle ear with mucus so that I was deaf in that ear for a month before I went to this doctor. He put an air tube up my nostril, closed the other, and told me to say K-K-K-K and... POP! the ear cleared. Then he told me to take Sudafed and use Afrin nasal spray (no antihistamines) for a couple of weeks until everything was drained, and showed me how to do the K-K-K-K trick myself. He gave me no ABX, and I never had to go back to him. Unfortunately, he is rare. Most doctors make snap judgments and follow routines based on what they did the last time, which was based on what a drug salesman told him. He's in such a hurry to make money that he never really listens to a patient, but hustles them in and out as fast as possible. He keeps the waiting room full with overbooked appointments to make the patients feel the urgency for his hurry, to make it look like he's got to get to other patients because there are so many of them. In truth, he has overbooked in order to squeeze as many fees into ever hour as possible to drive up his hourly revenue so he can knock off his hospital rounds and still have time for golf, opera, gambling, or whatever his favorite pasttime is. This stems from the method the AMA uses to screen med school applicants. They're chosen based on their academic overachievement, not their passion for science or their dedication to healing people. And they're motivated (mostly) by their desire for money and prestige, which fits right into the AMA criteria. I read somewhere that the AMA was founded by one doctor who used smear tactics to extort other doctors to join his organization, which is nothing more than a self-serving guild, like the masons or the plumbers, designed to limit competition and thus maximize per-member revenue. Anyone familiar with the story I'm recalling? I'd love to track it down and document it. Sam What antibioitics did the woman use before she started silver? Long term ABX have many damaging effects. Also, lots of Lyme people are put on Diflucan or Niazoral for the yeast they get because of the ABX, and both of those are severely toxic to the liver. Never heard of a problem with silver before. Sounds like another scare tactic to me. Sparrow Hello everyone! Personally I don't think this is possible or true but had to ask. Some woman in the Lyme ng told me that CS can cause liver damage. She claims her friend is near a liver translplant because of it. Is this at ALL possible I don't think so and think there must be something else her friend is taking that must have caused liver damage? Anyone know if there could be any truth to this or not??? Thanks! Nicole:O)
Re: CSRe: Tinnitus (ringing in the ears)?
Ditto, Dennis. I don't have to wait for spring or even step outside to hear the crickets. They are always with me, though I have wiped out yeast, fungus and God knows what else with CS. My vision's improved, especially in the morning, but my ears still ring. Any tinnitus geniuses out there? I suspect there are many causes for this annoying noise. Sam i've been cs and zapping for months. and my ears are still a four alarm siren. if there is any yeast in my body it must be related to superman. Dennis 51/50 24/7 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSRe: HB/pulser
I smoke. I zap. It works. Don't wait. In a message dated 11/22/1999 11:34:38 AM Eastern Standard Time, kato...@mindspring.com writes: Hey H.B., no, I haven't been using my pulser for several weeks now -- so it wouldn't be tha. My doctor says there is no such thing as a danger of electroporation from the pulser -- that it's an exaggerated safety warning. Who knows. Katarina Katarina, What does electoporation mean exactly? If I could just quit smoking I would love to try one of these devices. I still have the one that someone made me and have never tried it. Donna Donna Earnest This email contains only my opinion and should not be taken as medical advice. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSBioengineered foods
Worse yet, Monsanto has inserted a terminator gene that prevents germination of seeds produced by crops from Monsanto seeds. Thus, farmers have to buy new seeds every year. And the pollen from Monsanto terminator crops turn other natural crops into terminator-seed producers, thus ending the natural cycle of crop and seed and forcing farmers who didn't buy from Monsanto to begin doing so. This is truly an evil system and should be flatly outlawed. Sam I believe there is a difference between using selection to optimize what you want, and hybridization, and genetic engineering. IN the first case you usually are working for some change in the expression of the already present genes, like a color change, flavor change, size, productivity and so forth. In the case of genetic engineering we are seeing the insertion of the gene that produces an insecticide from a bacteria into a crop, so the crop produces insecticide. Then you find that 10% or so of the people are allergic to the insecticide or it may be toxic to everyone. Big difference. Also, Monsanto is inserting marker genes into their crops. Then when some pollen blows from one farmer's land to another's and the marker shows up in some of the seed of the farmer, they are suing him for infringement of their patent, even though he is replanting harloom seeds that have been in his family from before monsanto. Marshall Liz Pavek wrote: As far as I'm concerned, all hybrid seed is bioengineered. This means corn, soy, some wheats, and most garden vegetables. When genetics is manipulated, I consider that bioengineering. Just my nsho, Liz -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSNo TOFU for you
Too much tofu induces brain aging, study shows A Hawaii research team says high consumption of the soy product by a group of men lowered mental abilities http://starbulletin.com/1999/11/19/news/story4.html Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSNo TOFU for you
Too much tofu induces ‘brain aging,’ study shows Well, that's disturbing! I've been a vegetarian for 30 years! I love tofu! Damn! Dhyana -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSRe: Death
On Tue, 23 Nov 1999 10:53:43 +, M. G. Devour mdev...@mail.id.net wrote: Please avoid religious discussions and outright evangelization. Amen! Chuck Let's all get together and sing pumpkin carols. Guess it's OK to say Go to Hell, eh? Sam The worst moment for the atheist is when he is grateful and has no one to thank. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSRe:electroporation.
The phone would ring. Sam deat...@aol.com wrote: I did take my medications and herbs as usual BUT I kept a cordless phone in my lap so I could call 911 in case electroporation. set in since I live alone So how would you know electroporation is setting in?? Deb -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSRe: Happy Thanksgiving
Happy Thanksgiving to all my American friends. With regards Lew [Malaysia] Thank you, Dr Lew! Been wondering about you, haven't heard from you in awhile! Chuck Oh, censored !!! I just lost all my taglines! Relax, Chuck. You still have that one! Sam -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
RE: CSTDS
but i thought the the TDS meter was to test the purity of their system's water for cs production?! h Dennis 51/50 24/7 ---BeginMessage--- Dennis, It is unlikely that a home RO system will provide pure enough water for CS. Look as the specs on % of TDS removal, and compare that with the TDS of the source water. James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com -Original Message- From: D G [SMTP:djg5...@webtv.net] Sent: Saturday, November 27, 1999 8:41 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Re: CSTDS if the filter system works i'm gonna get it. even bottled water isn't that good here. they use reverse osmosis and it misses a few things i think. the filter system uses a one micron filter in the third and final stage. Dennis 51/50 24/7 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net ---End Message---
Re: CSrapeseed
Milk used to be the base for many paints and still is for Elmer's glue. Sam t...@home.com wrote: they used rapeseed in the making of paint, would you put this in your body? Ted You really can't use this as a good arguing point. Latex is 80% water, but water is harmless. Something in paint is not automatically harmful. Glycerine can be used in oil based paints, but is quite harmless as well. Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
RE: CSTDS
The TDS meter measures conductivity of the water. It is calibrated with ---usually NaCl. Different solutes have different conductivity, but it is usually close enough. If you deal in mS you eliminate that variation. What I as pointing out is that it is unlikely that home or commercial RO water is pure enough i.e., low enough conductivity for CS generation. One local commercial RO water I measured was 4.+ PPM. Typically the rejection rates are about 95%. My incoming water is 240 PPM, so do the math. Same for your water. James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com -Original Message- From: D G [SMTP:djg5...@webtv.net] Sent: Monday, November 29, 1999 12:45 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:RE: CSTDS Message: RE: CSTDS but i thought the the TDS meter was to test the purity of their system's water for cs production?! h Dennis 51/50 24/7 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSrapeseed
Sam Earle wrote: Milk used to be the base for many paints and still is for Elmer's glue. Sam Oh yes. I remember visiting some of the old homes in Salem a few years ago, and they still smelled like sour milk from the white paint they used! Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CS lyme and fevers
I've been CS 6 months and worked up to a cup a day for lyme. I spent 9 months on IV rocephin and started Flagyl/Doxycycline 2 months ago. I had no fevers on IV but they started back in after stopping IV and going to oral meds. I run a low grade fever every single eve from 5-8 pm and it feel like sitting in a oven. It will then break then chills and exhausted. Docs don't know why this is and don't seem to care. IT'S NOT NORMAL TO HAVE A FEVER EVER NIGHT! That's about all I know. Is this my body fighting,a CS effect,toxins? Anyones's info would be of help- Tami M -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CS lyme and fevers
I would personally give the Beck 4 step program a try. That is what cured my sister of Lyme. Marshall tm4...@aol.com wrote: I've been CS 6 months and worked up to a cup a day for lyme. I spent 9 months on IV rocephin and started Flagyl/Doxycycline 2 months ago. I had no fevers on IV but they started back in after stopping IV and going to oral meds. I run a low grade fever every single eve from 5-8 pm and it feel like sitting in a oven. It will then break then chills and exhausted. Docs don't know why this is and don't seem to care. IT'S NOT NORMAL TO HAVE A FEVER EVER NIGHT! That's about all I know. Is this my body fighting,a CS effect,toxins? Anyones's info would be of help- Tami M -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
RE: CSRe: Death
Did you hear the one about the dyslexic atheist? Didn't believe in Dog. James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com -Original Message- From: Sam Earle [SMTP:sear...@prodigy.net] Sent: Monday, November 29, 1999 12:03 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Re: CSRe: Death On Tue, 23 Nov 1999 10:53:43 +, M. G. Devour mdev...@mail.id.net wrote: Please avoid religious discussions and outright evangelization. Amen! Chuck Let's all get together and sing pumpkin carols. Guess it's OK to say Go to Hell, eh? Sam The worst moment for the atheist is when he is grateful and has no one to thank. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSRe: Tinnitus (ringing in the ears)?
Were you exposed to chemotherapy or loud or continous noises.. i.e. Vietnam... loud machinery etc. Jeff -Original Message- From: Sam Earle sear...@prodigy.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, November 29, 1999 12:45 PM Subject: Re: CSRe: Tinnitus (ringing in the ears)? Ditto, Dennis. I don't have to wait for spring or even step outside to hear the crickets. They are always with me, though I have wiped out yeast, fungus and God knows what else with CS. My vision's improved, especially in the morning, but my ears still ring. Any tinnitus geniuses out there? I suspect there are many causes for this annoying noise. Sam i've been cs and zapping for months. and my ears are still a four alarm siren. if there is any yeast in my body it must be related to superman. Dennis 51/50 24/7 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
RE: CSTDS
my h2o is sludge Dennis 51/50 24/7 ---BeginMessage--- The TDS meter measures conductivity of the water. It is calibrated with ---usually NaCl. Different solutes have different conductivity, but it is usually close enough. If you deal in mS you eliminate that variation. What I as pointing out is that it is unlikely that home or commercial RO water is pure enough i.e., low enough conductivity for CS generation. One local commercial RO water I measured was 4.+ PPM. Typically the rejection rates are about 95%. My incoming water is 240 PPM, so do the math. Same for your water. James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com -Original Message- From: D G [SMTP:djg5...@webtv.net] Sent: Monday, November 29, 1999 12:45 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:RE: CSTDS Message: RE: CSTDS but i thought the the TDS meter was to test the purity of their system's water for cs production?! h Dennis 51/50 24/7 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net ---End Message---
Re: CSNo TOFU for you
In a message dated 11/29/1999 11:50:12 AM Central Standard Time, mdud...@execonn.com writes: Too much tofu induces ‘brain aging,’ study shows A Hawaii research team says high consumption of the soy product by a group of men lowered mental abilities Maybe its just a man thing. hehehehe So all those weight lifters and body builders are aging their brains huh from taking all that Soy? I thought some of them acted strange. My son takes Soy and is 23 and sure has acted a lot more mature in the last few years. LOL :) A HREF=http://www.families-first.com/hotflash/faq/soy2.htm;Hotflash! - FAQ - Soy Isoflavones/A Our body then reacts as if there really is estrogen at the sites. This can help out tremendously with some of the symptoms brought on by perimenopause and menopause. Some research suggests that by doing this soy can decrease hot flashes and vaginal dryness, in addition to providing other health benefits. Japanese women, whose diet is very high in soy, have much fewer perimenopause and menopause symptoms. Current studies attribute this to their high isoflavone diet. Soy and the isoflavones that are in soy also have a number of other healthy roles. Soy can lower cholesterol, increase bone density (soy is generally high in calcium) and possibly decrease the risk of developing breast cancer. (though the evidence for this is not completely in yet). Soy also may have long standing benefits for men in preventing and recovering from prostate cancer. Take Care, Janis -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSTDS
Where do you get pure water from, if this is true??? - Original Message - From: James Osbourne, Holmes a...@trail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, November 29, 1999 3:53 PM Subject: RE: CSTDS The TDS meter measures conductivity of the water. It is calibrated with ---usually NaCl. Different solutes have different conductivity, but it is usually close enough. If you deal in mS you eliminate that variation. What I as pointing out is that it is unlikely that home or commercial RO water is pure enough i.e., low enough conductivity for CS generation. One local commercial RO water I measured was 4.+ PPM. Typically the rejection rates are about 95%. My incoming water is 240 PPM, so do the math. Same for your water. James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com -Original Message- From: D G [SMTP:djg5...@webtv.net] Sent: Monday, November 29, 1999 12:45 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSTDS Message: RE: CSTDS but i thought the the TDS meter was to test the purity of their system's water for cs production?! h Dennis 51/50 24/7 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSOT - Soy Toxins
Aloha from Hawaii, Thank you for the informative article on Soy. IMHO any single food taken to excess is always bad. grin To introduce myself, I am Chinese and I lived most of my life in Hong Kong before moving to Hawaii in the mid 80s. There is a large Asian population (Chinese, Japanese, Vietnamese, etc..) in Hawaii and tofu has always been sold in all the supermarkets here for many years. Soy food (soy milk, tofu, soy bean sprouts, etc..) has been *part* of the Asian diets for many thousands of years. Most Asian meals (for those who can afford it) are usually well balanced and very nutritious. For Chinese vegetarians, only a small amount of soy food is eaten at meal time along with a variety of different veggies and large helpings of fruits. Variety is what makes a meal tasty, interesting and healthy. grin Among Asian countries (as in any less prosperous nation), ill health is more a factor of *financial lack* than simply bad eating habits or lopsided diets as it is in the affluent west. (I mean this in a general sense). What is bad about today's soy bean crops is that chemicals (pesticides ??) are now sprayed on them. The present method of processing soy beans (and other food crops) in America leaves much to be desired; and the present practise of putting soy proteins into nearly every processed food product is not healthy either. Also, many grain/bean products are being genetically engineered, and I believe soy beans might be one of them..?? There are also many other *unhealthy* practices regarding the food we buy and eat today. Most chickens are now injected with hormones and most cows are given antibiotics and hormones also. I suspect they are doing the same with pigs, turkeys, game hens, or any animals raised commercially for consumption..?? Most commercially raised veggies are chemically sprayed and nearly all fruits are sprayed and waxed before showing up on the supermarket shelves. Perhaps we should all start raising out own food..?? Should we start a CS community farm project..?? huge smile So, in our own best interest, soy food (as in any well planned meal) should only comprise a small (and useful) part of our diet and not be taken to extremes. The healthiest meals are still the ones we start making from scratch ourselves (without using any processed food if possible) and avoiding fast-food. Staying *balanced* has always been the best way to live a long, happy life - whether spiritually, mentally, emotionally or physically. IMHO, if we exercise discernment and restrain, very little can harm us. And of course, taking our daily doses of CS certainly keeps us healthier than most. big smile Please excuse my English as it is my second language and I do not know if the above conveys what I intend to say... ha, ha, ha. Have a great day! To our health, Helena From: mardic...@aol.com Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 21:13:11 EST To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSSoy Toxins part 1 of 2 http://www.vegan-straight-edge.org.uk/soyfood.htm This web page presents some of the negative facts about soy products that are not generally heard by vegetarians due to control of the mass media and biased research funded or conducted by industrial concerns and reproduce at health food shops, or in nutritional texts... snipped. You need to be aware that many scientific studies are loaded or are not indepth enough to give useful results. It is therefore easy in some cases to present data to support a variety of cases for soy, based on which research you pick... snipped. The Billion Dollar Soy Industry Sales of soy foods increased 350 percent over the last decade to an estimated $1.4 billion last year, according to the Soyfoods Association of America. Supermarket News; Vol.46, No.11; March 11, 1996; p.51. snipped -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSRe: 170VDC HVAC doggy do-do
Corvus Corax wrote: what is herx? The term herx is short for Jarisch-Herxheimer Reaction and is often used to reference a period of worsening symptoms that occur after treatment begins. The Herxheimer reaction is most notably observed in spirochetal diseases such as Syphilis and Lyme Disease, and is believed to be caused by toxin released as spirochetal bacteria are killed. However, others have observed a similar response when treating various diseases and therefore the term herx is used to describe this response. Jeff -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSOT - Soy Toxins
Hi Helena, English is my first language and I wish I could express myself half as well. I agree with the idea that moderation is wise in everything that we do. I don't eat any soy if I can help it. I just don't like the taste. To your health, CK - Original Message - From: Helena Hsu h...@lava.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, November 29, 1999 6:18 PM Subject: CSOT - Soy Toxins Staying *balanced* has always been the best way to live a long, happy life - whether spiritually, mentally, emotionally or physically. IMHO, if we exercise discernment and restrain, very little can harm us. And of course, taking our daily doses of CS certainly keeps us healthier than most. big smile Please excuse my English as it is my second language and I do not know if the above conveys what I intend to say... ha, ha, ha. Have a great day! To our health, Helena From: mardic...@aol.com Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 21:13:11 EST To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSSoy Toxins part 1 of 2 http://www.vegan-straight-edge.org.uk/soyfood.htm This web page presents some of the negative facts about soy products that are not generally heard by vegetarians due to control of the mass media and biased research funded or conducted by industrial concerns and reproduce at health food shops, or in nutritional texts... snipped. You need to be aware that many scientific studies are loaded or are not indepth enough to give useful results. It is therefore easy in some cases to present data to support a variety of cases for soy, based on which research you pick... snipped. The Billion Dollar Soy Industry Sales of soy foods increased 350 percent over the last decade to an estimated $1.4 billion last year, according to the Soyfoods Association of America. Supermarket News; Vol.46, No.11; March 11, 1996; p.51. snipped -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSRe: Tinnitus (ringing in the ears)?
No 'Nam, but a fair amount of rock 'n roll too close to the speakers, and 5 years of stock outboard racing running a 20 c.i. open-exhaust corn-popper motor. Plus I smoke, which seems often to be associated with the tinnitus. I suspect it's more a circulatory/flexibility issue than a nerve damage thing. Sam Were you exposed to chemotherapy or loud or continous noises.. i.e. Vietnam... loud machinery etc. Jeff -Original Message- From: Sam Earle sear...@prodigy.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, November 29, 1999 12:45 PM Subject: Re: CSRe: Tinnitus (ringing in the ears)? Ditto, Dennis. I don't have to wait for spring or even step outside to hear the crickets. They are always with me, though I have wiped out yeast, fungus and God knows what else with CS. My vision's improved, especially in the morning, but my ears still ring. Any tinnitus geniuses out there? I suspect there are many causes for this annoying noise. Sam i've been cs and zapping for months. and my ears are still a four alarm siren. if there is any yeast in my body it must be related to superman. Dennis 51/50 24/7 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSRe: Tinnitus (ringing in the ears)?
Hi, I've had ringing ears for as long as I can remember and I'm 51 years old (even tho I sometimes hate admitting that). Mine supposedly is caused by my TMJ problems. I have a bad right jaw joint and a bad problem gritting my teeth at night which creates havoc with the muscles from the top of my head to the tips of my toes, so to speak. Lotsa pain. Temples and head/neck muscles are always tight, shoulders bad news, tho with work thru a specialist the problem is lots better. They say the muscle tightness and inflamation in the muscles has caused tinitus, thus the ringing. One doctor, at one point when we were discussing how many ibuprofen I was consuming per day, asked if I was experiencing any ringing in my ears. I asked why, and she said with the amount I was taking, it was/could be considered an overdose, and one symptom of that was ringing in the ears. Well, I'm still living on high doses of ibuprofen, also sudaphedrine to help keep ears clearer and sinuses at bay as they are also affected by the TMJ. Ringing is still constant and loud. Sometimes my ears ring so loud, I turn the TV up to try and block out the sound. I'm hoping CS will help some, also am trying to get more info on Colloidal Copper as I read it helps inflamation. I'm very much in the dark on it all as only recently learned about CS. I also have a lot of pets - cats and dogs- plus I am a foster home for stray cats, so am hopeful CS will work for some of their problems also. I have a 12 year old sheppard I dearly love, but she has hip poblems so bad - don't know if it's too late to try her on CS and the copper also. Any ideas anyone? Good luck on the ear ringing. Would like to hear if you have any progress. I'm still very much in the dark on what I should even be taking for dosages. Am also thinking of trying to make some in the future. Waiting on a couple of books I sent for to try and get better educated on this whole thing. For you conspiracy buffs, of which I'm one, I also read that humming and ringing in the ears can be caused from the presence of ELFs and there are a lot of new towers going up all over the place where I live. Problem is I'd never know if it was from the low frequecny waves or from regular tinitus cuz it never quits. Best of Luck, Barb -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSBioengineered foods
A HREF=http://www.sightings.com/earthchanges/ladybug.htm;SIGHTINGS:Ladybug s/A if this doesn't work, the address is below http://www.sightings.com/earthchanges/ladybug.htm This is an article on ladybugs in Scotland that were dying from eating aphids that had fed on a genetically altered potato crop. It's just the tip of the iceberg me thinks. Barb Worse yet, Monsanto has inserted a terminator gene that prevents germination of seeds produced by crops from Monsanto seeds. Thus, farmers have to buy new seeds every year. And the pollen from Monsanto terminator crops turn other natural crops into terminator-seed producers, thus ending the natural cycle of crop and seed and forcing farmers who didn't buy from Monsanto to begin doing so. This is truly an evil system and should be flatly outlawed. Sam I believe there is a difference between using selection to optimize what you want, and hybridization, and genetic engineering. IN the first case you usually are working for some change in the expression of the already present genes, like a color change, flavor change, size, productivity and so forth. In the case of genetic engineering we are seeing the insertion of the gene that produces an insecticide from a bacteria into a crop, so the crop produces insecticide. Then you find that 10% or so of the people are allergic to the insecticide or it may be toxic to everyone. Big difference. Also, Monsanto is inserting marker genes into their crops. Then when some pollen blows from one farmer's land to another's and the marker shows up in some of the seed of the farmer, they are suing him for infringement of their patent, even though he is replanting harloom seeds that have been in his family from before monsanto. Marshall Liz Pavek wrote: As far as I'm concerned, all hybrid seed is bioengineered. This means corn, soy, some wheats, and most garden vegetables. When genetics is manipulated, I consider that bioengineering. Just my nsho, Liz -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net --- Headers Return-Path: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com Received: from rly-zb02.mx.aol.com (rly-zb02.mail.aol.com [172.31.41.2]) by air-zb02.mail.aol.com (vx) with ESMTP; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 13:23:21 -0500 Received: from mx1.eskimo.com (mx1.eskimo.com [204.122.16.48]) by rly-zb02.mx.aol.com (v65.4) with ESMTP; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 13:23:02 -0500 Received: (from smart...@localhost) by mx1.eskimo.com (8.9.1a/8.8.8) id KAA17048; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 10:22:53 -0800 Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 10:22:53 -0800 Message-ID: 011201bf3a87$20b82c00$92ecf...@emachine From: Sam Earle sear...@prodigy.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com References: 012001bf33d8$5d971c40$51f0f...@oemcomputer 38399485.98537...@execonn.com Subject: Re: CSBioengineered foods Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 11:31:01 -0500 Organization: Prodigy Internet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3
Re: CSCindy - rabbit treatment
Thankyou Sam I'll give him a hug for you :o) The CS is working in his eye, it seems to be clearing the infection up some, but so far I am not having any luck with the abscess. I've been told that rabbit abcesses are really stubborn, and that even if you have them surgically removed, they will just keep coming back. I am hoping that the silver I am putting in his eye will drain down through his sinuses and maybe I can get him cured that way. Thanks for knowledge and advice! Thankyou too, Sparrow! From: Sam Earle sear...@prodigy.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Sunday, November 28, 1999 8:15 AM Subject: Re: CSCindy - rabbit treatment The hazard of DMSO that Ivan mentions here is minimal. DMSO will carry solvents, chemicals, etc. through living tissues, but it kills bacteria and virus, so not to worry about carrying infections and such. It is also a poweful antioxidant and the only compound I know of that acts as an intracellular antioxidant. DMSO is an excellent choice for carrying CS to bunnie's abcess. Good luck, and hug your bunny for me. Sam Cindy, In experiments Rabbits were protected from streptococci septicemia and not harmed by the injection of 3 cc of 40ppm silver colloid. This would be equivalent to 12mls of 10ppm CS, and higher amounts orally would probably cause no harm. An eye dropper sounds appropriate. You might also consider mixing CS with a small amount of DMSO (the unoxidised form of MSM, available at veterinary supply outlets) and administer directly to affected area. DMSO has the property of transporting compounds through the dermal layer and through out the body. Be careful with DMSO as it will transport toxins found on the skin surface of the administerer (?) also. Ivan - Original Message - From: Cindy Powell suns...@networld.com Ivan, I am also wondering what your recommendation would be for dosing my rabbit internally? I would basically have to give him the whole dose with an eye dropper because he doesn't like anything added to his drinking water. Still a little scared about the good bacteria die off because his health is a little fragile as it is, but I may have to get more aggressive with some sort of therapy. Well wishes, Cindy -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSNo TOFU for you
At 12:46 PM 11/29/99 -0500, you wrote: Too much tofu induces brain aging, study shows A Hawaii research team says high consumption of the soy product by a group of men lowered mental abilities http://starbulletin.com/1999/11/19/news/story4.html Marshall ~~~ This is fascinating. The article claims the men who ate two or more servings of tofu a week lost brain-weight. (Some people will do anything to lose weight...) And they looked five years older. I wonder what food would make someone look and think and feel YOUNGER -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSNo TOFU for you (2)
So soy makes men's brains' smaller but helps prevent prostate... Would you say... Smaller beanie but better weenie? ~^^V^^~ -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
