Re: CS>CS Pro
Let us know how the SOTA performs. Why would you want to electrify your blood? Josephine I found out SOTA now has a full-transistorized constant-current model, with ppm determined solely by timing, with ppm results verified in repeated tests.I like this company (no affiliation) and will probably by this, as it includes blood electrification capacity. Best, JBB Langsley Russell wrote: > Hi James. > > In response to the questions: "Does anyone have experience with CS Pro > generators? Do they produce high quality CS?" from Kent. > > You said: "Yes. Yes. " > > Several weeks back, September 21 to be exact, I asked about the Uni-Phase > MHVDC units made by Cs-Pro. I got nothing but negative feedback at that > time, both on the list and off the list. If anyone wants to check the > archives type, "AC or dc, more than one kind of each" in the search window. > There was only one response on list and I got two privately, both of them > very negative. > > Your response was anything but specific as to your experiences with their > generators and the CS they produce. Have you had experience with any of > these specific products (the Uni-Phase MHVDC line)? if so is it very > different from that posted by Solar? > > Any and all additional input on these devices would be very welcome. > > Thank you. > > LTR }}:{( > Langsley T Russell > Bulloved Bulldogs > bullo...@nitline.com > http://www.yahoogroups.com/group/The-Holistic-Bulldogger > http://www.bullovedbulldogs.com/ > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Failed Experiment
One brand of stevia powder called "Stevion" has no licorice taste. The former brand I had used was awful to me; Stevia has replaced aspartame in my family. No more headaches, no more nasty-tasting alternatives. Stevion is really good to my taste buds. Available from Beyond A Century vitamin company on the web. JBB Judith Thamm wrote: > Do you mean the white powdered extract? I have not tried that as a > fungicide - but I have pestered my poor long-suffering husband into using > the extract as a sweetener in his cups of tea, I use it in baking and > cooking - mainly because it lacks the liquorice taste of the whole leaf > solution. I wouldn't expect the extract to work as well as the whole leaf > solution; one of the characteristics of the leaf is its fungicidal ability. > Judith. > > From: "Marshall Dudley" > To: > Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 3:06 PM > Subject: Re: CS>Failed Experiment > > > Have you tried refined stevia? > > > > Marshall > > > > Judith Thamm wrote: > > > > > Dear Damian, > > > I have also tested CS as a fungicide in our nursery and found that I got > > > better results from Stevia leaf than CS. > > > > > > Put 2-3 Teaspoons stevia in a litttre of water and let it soak > overnight. > > > Straain and store on a glass bottle. This solution will keep without > > > refirigeration for months. You can boil the leaves and water for 20 > ins, > > > but I prefer the cold soak method. > > > > > > I dilute the murky green solution to half water half stevia liquid. > > > > > > Used it for propagating seedlings. [Note now retired from nursery - > gone > > > orgainic instead]. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Judith. > > > > > > > Dear Damian, > > > > I have observed, with interest, several postings on > the > > > > list.that Colloidal Silver is an excellent fungicide. This has > not > > > been > > > > our experience. Several years ago we conducted some efficacy tests > for CS > > > > against 10 specimens of "garden-variety" type fungi. > > > > We used concentrations between 5 ppm and 10ppm. Complete control > resulted > > > > in one case, moderate control in one case..and almost no control > in 8 > > > > cases. We did not conduct follow-up tests and our control standards > were > > > > minimal. However, we concluded that---for whatever reason---CS is not > a > > > > reliable fungicide or algicide. Whether or notover timeit is > a > > > > fungistatic, I cannot say..as we did not conduct extended > population > > > > counts to verify UP or DOWN population movements. This was not a > genuine > > > > scientific study and parametric control could not be claimed. > > > > However, simultaneously-conducted bacteria and > virus-based > > > > evaluations (with parametric controls) yielded 100% pathogenic control > > > > results..sometimes in concentrations as low as .025 ppm/ > > > > I am somewhat puzzled as to the claims of CS being a > > > > powerful fungicide. It would be of considerable value to learn of > > > > successful experiments conducted by any list members..or any > research > > > > organization. We would be quite interested to learn the exact nature > of > > > any > > > > successful protocol where CS was an effective "stand-alone" fungi > control. > > > > We have found H202 (in low concentrations [ 1%] ) > to > > > be > > > > quite effective in controlling algae and a wide range of > fungi-most > > > > especially anaerobic or near-anaerobic types. Chlorine-based > solutions > > > have > > > > demonstrated (to us) to be exceptionally > > > > powerful in subjugating all fungi and algae..we have tested. > > > > Unfortunately, the human health impact of chlorine-containing > solutions do > > > > not augur well; therefore, wisdom seems to dictate their use ONLY in > > > > non-potable water circumstances. > > > >Thi has just been our experience in a single > set of > > > > circumstances and does not constitute any form of reliable, repeatable > > > > evidence. > > > > Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. > > > > - Original Message - > > > > From: "Damian" > > > > To: > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 1:29 AM > > > > Subject: CS>Failed Experiment > > > > > > > > > > > > > hi all. I finally got around to doing some experimenting with CS. I > took > > > > > some swabs from my mouth and grew some fungus and other stuff in 4 > > > dish's. > > > > > Once the dish's were populated i added 1ml of h2o2 to one, 1ml of CS > to > > > > > another, and .5 ml of cs mixed with .5ml of h2o2. Now after 2 days > the > > > > only > > > > > one that had an effect is the 1ml of h2o2. Does this mean my CS is > not > > > > made > > > > > properly. Does it mean that CS is not as good as people say? Does it > > > mean > > > > > that my body is riddled with super toxins?. I noticed that the > straight > > > CS > > > > > seem
Re: CS>Rehydration
I have used alkaline water for several years, and love it. Main reason for this is the incredibly heat and humidity in southern Japan; I sweat terribly and become dehydrated quickly. A liter of alkaline water goes down easily; one liter of regular water makes me feel as though I have swallowed a bowling ball.Regular water is sickeningly bloating. Alkaline water is "tighter" so the same volume somehow, incredibly, seems like much less.It gets into the body faster, too, I think. I highly recommend alkaline water. I was very skeptical but have found it to be wonderful. Best, JBB Nina Silver wrote: > - Original Message - > From: Mike Fuller > To: Silver list > Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2001 5:22 PM > Subject: CS>Rehydration > > > There has been a couple of methods of assisting rehydration mentioned on > the > > list. Duncan has detailed Microhydrin (which I believe is fairly > expensive) > > and Brooks has told us MSM helped rehydrate much faster (I wonder if this > is > > why MSM helps with arthritis pain?). > > > > Has anyone had experience with acid/alkaline water separators? > (microwater?) > > I have a recollection that the alkaline water is supposed to help > rehydrate > > because of the altered water structure. Has anyone also got any technical > > details on how this achieves its rehydration? > > I own one and use it every day. I drink the alkaline water and use the acid > water for douching, skin conditions, and sometimes as a mouthwash (making > sure to spit out the water afterward). > > When I turn on the setting to a rather high alkalinity and drink between 4 > and 6 ounces of water in one sitting, I begin to sweat, similar to my > response when I'm in the sauna or when drinking coral calcium water. This is > because the alkaline water encourages the elimination of toxins, which are > acidic. > > I would assume that during this process of the interstitial fluid leaving > the body as sweat, that rehydration is occurring (though I could be wrong). > > Nina Silver > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>CS Pro
Regarding my own request for off-line comments about generators, the most postive remarks I got concerned the wishgranted.com machine.I have not gotten a new generator yet, though. I found out SOTA now has a full-transistorized constant-current model, with ppm determined solely by timing, with ppm results verified in repeated tests.I like this company (no affiliation) and will probably by this, as it includes blood electrification capacity. Best, JBB Langsley Russell wrote: > Hi James. > > In response to the questions: "Does anyone have experience with CS Pro > generators? Do they produce high quality CS?" from Kent. > > You said: "Yes. Yes. " > > Several weeks back, September 21 to be exact, I asked about the Uni-Phase > MHVDC units made by Cs-Pro. I got nothing but negative feedback at that > time, both on the list and off the list. If anyone wants to check the > archives type, "AC or dc, more than one kind of each" in the search window. > There was only one response on list and I got two privately, both of them > very negative. > > Your response was anything but specific as to your experiences with their > generators and the CS they produce. Have you had experience with any of > these specific products (the Uni-Phase MHVDC line)? if so is it very > different from that posted by Solar? > > Any and all additional input on these devices would be very welcome. > > Thank you. > > LTR }}:{( > Langsley T Russell > Bulloved Bulldogs > bullo...@nitline.com > http://www.yahoogroups.com/group/The-Holistic-Bulldogger > http://www.bullovedbulldogs.com/ > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Re: GOBBLE UP THE SAVINGS!!! Multimeter
what is the point of this post? make a fool of yourself . for what??? is this part of quack-watch?,,, i don't understand! i bought their air brush for $9.99. - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 5:13 PM Subject: CS>Re: GOBBLE UP THE SAVINGS!!! Multimeter > As a public service, as I'm voluntarily on their spam list... > Chuck > > Go on and try it. The worst you can do is make a fool of yourself in front of > all your friends. > > On Mon, 19 Nov 2001 14:34:38 -0800, "Harbor Freight Tools" > wrote: > > >CEN-TECH® 7 FUNCTION MULTI-TESTER > >SAVE 50%! > >Reg. $9.99 SALE $4.99 > > > >Get accurate readings for DC voltage, DC current, AC voltage, resistance, transistor test, > >diode test, and continuity response. Features easy-to-read 3-1/2 digit LCD readout, > >positive set selector switch, and 32" leads. > >ITEM 30756-3VGA > >http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=30756 > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour >
Re: CS>Making 1st CS - using ppm calculator
Hi Leacy, On Mon, 19 Nov 2001 23:15:27 -0600, natural_essenti...@juno.com wrote: >I forgot, I've got 4 inches of the wire in the solution. I wiped off >both wires at 35 minutes also. It's been 40 minutes now and the solution >is quite murky now, like dirty bathwater. Getting darker each minute. >Uugghh > >Are these maybe mA, not Amps? It just shows an "A" with no "m" before it >on the multimeter. They'd better be mA. :) You wouldn't have any water in the container if it were Amps. But, why the KCl? That would speed up the process so you'd need about 10 minutes, total, for producing CS (along with AgCl). Most people would say you shouldn't put anything into the container but distilled water and silver electrodes (then, running the process for 30 minutes should produce about 8 ppm). I haven't tried the ppm calculator, so I can't say what's going wrong (the current of 10 mA seems about right for 27 volts after 10 minutes). -- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Excretion of colloidal silver
On Tue, 20 Nov 2001 06:29:35 +0800, Mike Fuller wrote: >Could someone point me in the direction of any research done on the >excretion of colloidal silver, from either humans or animals? Roger Altman posted this message to the silver-list on Tue, 20 Feb 2001 15:04:39 Based on my CS ingestion/retention studies what you assume above is not likely to happen. Go the Frank Key's website to download my study to see the evidence I obtained.Roger (This was recovered from the eScribe silverlist archive, URL at the bottom of this message.) -- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>mone
If I had Mono, I would drink it till I sloshed!! (Several Cups a day) CK - Original Message - From: "Shirley Reed" To: Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 11:26 PM Subject: CS>mone | List, a friend has been diagnosed with mono. CS is | definitely helping her, but I am very uncertain as to | what to suggest about dosage. My cs is about 10ppm I | think, so what do you knowledgeable ones suggest, if | you don't mind? Thanks. pj | | __ | Do You Yahoo!? | Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. | http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 | | | -- | The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. | | To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: | silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com | with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. | | To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com | Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html | List maintainer: Mike Devour | |
CS>mone
List, a friend has been diagnosed with mono. CS is definitely helping her, but I am very uncertain as to what to suggest about dosage. My cs is about 10ppm I think, so what do you knowledgeable ones suggest, if you don't mind? Thanks. pj __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Making 1st CS - using ppm calculator
I forgot, I've got 4 inches of the wire in the solution. I wiped off both wires at 35 minutes also. It's been 40 minutes now and the solution is quite murky now, like dirty bathwater. Getting darker each minute. Uugghh Are these maybe mA, not Amps? It just shows an "A" with no "m" before it on the multimeter. Leacy Life is Good! GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>TEST
test. test. one, two, one two, i'm one, are you one too?. roger wilco over and out, ten-four, buddy-buddy - Original Message - From: rusty0 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 6:05 PM Subject: CS>TEST TEST
CS>Making my first batch - using the excel ppm calculator
Ok, I just started making my first batch of CS. I'm using Marshalee's system of 3 9V batteries, using 16 oz of water, put about 10 grains of KCl in it, and I'm stirring about every minute. I've got the wires between chopsticks (saw a pic like that somewhere) and I'm actually moving the wires around and around to stir by manipulating the chopsticks. My first amp measurement was 10.5 amp measured by a "Fluke" - some brand of multimeter. My second was 10.4 at 10 minutes. The solution is quite milky almost pearly with a pink hue already. I can see bubbles on one wire, and the other is already coated in black. So, on the calculator I put in 474.12 ml, and 0.0105, 0.0104, and 0.01024 and I'm ending up with a ppm of 0.03 at the 3rd reading. Something seems wrong, I do need to move the decimal point on the amps don't I? Leacy Life is Good! GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>THANK YOU.......CS in Gall Bladder
Hello all, I am so sorry that I haven't had an opportunity before now to sit and jot you a line to thank you from the bottom of my heart. Tracy.thank you for "giving a yell" so that people would give me an opinion. Marshalee..thank you for all your kind and gracious words..I hope to reply to you soon. Others...thank you for your responses, I put them all together in making my final decision. And..Last but certainly not least...Ivan..WOW You impressed me. Did you go look up all that technical info about the gall bladder and its function, or did you just know it? You were right on! In fact, I printed your email out (leaving out your email addy and name) to bring to the doctors to help to convince them that what I was doing without their input wasn't going to kill her. ~:-} Anyway, I have put the CS directly into her gall bladder twice a day for over a week now. The "floaties" are gone.the thickness is gone...and her itching is relieved. Last Tuesday I had a battle with Gabrielle's liver team. They talked to me intelligently and with an open mind. Their initial response was an ABSOLUTE, resounding NO After about 1/2 hour of calm, intelligent exchanging of facts, they not only agreed to let me continue to use it (as if they could be in control of what I do at home), but are looking into it in more detail to perhaps use in other children with "lines" into their bodies that are having problems with chronic infection. I had done a "control study" with the use of CS in her gall bladder, and that impressed them greatly. They have adequate proof that it works, as far as they are concerned, the only problem is that there is only ONE case study..Gabrielle. It is unlikely they will be able to duplicate this experiment, as this is the first time this type of tube has been placed in a child. I am bless to have so many minds to "pick" when I have questions. And I thank you for being willing to stand on the "shaky" ground of giving opinions about treatment of a chronically ill child. I thank you all again. God bless, Christiane
Re: CS> Heated Water
I find that water at around 100 deg f does best. Very hot water, i think, makes particles collide and grow. ken At 11:42 AM 11/19/01 -0800, you wrote: Hi, I know in the past you've discussed what happens when you heat the water before colloiding, and someone's formula turned out too dark or cloudy or something, but I don't remember what the advice was on that. We just tried heating the water to almost boiling and colloiding for 10 minutes, and the water is pretty dark, though we haven't strained it yet. Should we use this? Would someone send me some guidelines for doing it with warm or hot water? I'm used to it taking 45 minutes to an hour with 16 oz. of water at room temp. Thanks for any help, Cheryl Tired of buying questionable qaulity colloidal silver at high health food store prices? Make your own high quality Colloidal Silver at home with this automatic process, current controlled colloidal silver generator. http://www.silverpuppy.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Digital Multimeter
Well, they 'were' on sale. Got mine for that. ken At 09:54 AM 11/19/01 -0900, you wrote: >Digital mutimeters can be had at www.harborfreight.com for as little as >$7. Ken > >I don't mean to be 'picky' but the cheapest I could find there was >$9.99. Bess > > >-- >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com >Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html >List maintainer: Mike Devour > > Tired of buying questionable qaulity colloidal silver at high health food store prices? Make your own high quality Colloidal Silver at home with this automatic process, current controlled colloidal silver generator. http://www.silverpuppy.com
Re: CS>Good non-toxic substance to clean electrodes?
It seems to me that deposits don't grow on dull electrodes as well as on shiny ones. Wipe em off and go. Ken At 02:08 PM 11/19/01 +0200, you wrote: Dear Members We produce very good CS using LVDC. When the process is complete, there is no silver oxide residue in the water at all. All that remains is a very thin film of black oxide on the electrodes (silver ions having bonded with any free oxygen in the water) which one simply wipes clean with a tissue or paper towel once the electrodes have been removed. After some time, however, the electrodes go a little dull in colour. Does anyone know of a good non-toxic cleaning liquid or substance that one can apply to restore the shiny clean surface of the silver? I know one can use a little steel wool or scouring pad, but I'm trying to avoid that since it is rather harsh on the surface of the electrodes. Any feedback will be appreciated. Regards Steve Tired of buying questionable qaulity colloidal silver at high health food store prices? Make your own high quality Colloidal Silver at home with this automatic process, current controlled colloidal silver generator. http://www.silverpuppy.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Websites?
Huh, try www.silvergen.com? ken At 12:28 PM 11/17/01 -0500, you wrote: >Do you have any websites that offer the CS makers of the types you mention? >---<>--- >automatic shutoff. >constant current control >stirring motor >variable PPM control >large surface area electrodes to reduce the current density > > > > > >-- >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com >Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html >List maintainer: Mike Devour > > Tired of buying questionable qaulity colloidal silver at high health food store prices? Make your own high quality Colloidal Silver at home with this automatic process, current controlled colloidal silver generator. http://www.silverpuppy.com
RE: CS>Digital Multimeter
They are often on sale for 4.99 + the connector. James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Scatter Brain [mailto:scttr...@webtv.net] Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 11:55 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Cc: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>Digital Multimeter Digital mutimeters can be had at www.harborfreight.com for as little as $7. Ken I don't mean to be 'picky' but the cheapest I could find there was $9.99. Bess -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>TEST
TEST
CS>Response from e-mail from Ron Leavitt on Oct. 31
Ron, We are currently waiting for funding to look at the possible killing effects of the ASAP silver both on the spore form as well as the vegetative state of the cell. As you might expect, the military are very interested in this possibility. As soon as the funding in available, we will begin testing in our P3 facility here at BYU. RWL At 08:01 PM 10/22/2001 -0700, you wrote: Hello Mr. Leavitt. I contacted you about a year ago with regard to your work on Colloidal Silver. Do you have any updates with your research you could share with me, including it's possible effect on Anthrax? Many Thanks Ron
CS>Ron Leavitt at BYU goes public on CS
CNN Health carried this story on Nov. 8th... Here's the interesting part of it, or follow the link for the whole story. http://www.cnn.com/2001/HEALTH/11/08/universal.drug.ap/index.html "Another supplement under serious academic study as an all-purpose drug is silver. It has been hawked for decades as a popular remedy for a variety of ailments, so microbiologist Ron Leavitt at Brigham Young University balked three years ago when a company first asked him to test its solution scientifically. "I said, 'Go away!"' he recalled in an interview. "I fully expected it not to do a thing." Reluctantly agreeing, he compared the silver compound to the common antibiotic tetracycline in action against 11 germs. In each case, he says, the silver compound worked as well or better. Leavitt says he doubted his own findings, so he did the experiments again -- and again. The results were the same against those strains and nine others. One was E. coli, another potential agent of terrorism. The interested company, American Biotech Labs of Alpine, Utah, has begun to test the solution for anthrax and ear infections, says spokesman Keith Moeller. Leavitt says silver, at the levels used in the solution, appears to be toxic to germs but safe for people. He plans to extend his experiments to animals. He suspects the silver acts as a catalyst, perhaps promoting a reaction that short-circuits a germ's energy metabolism. One potential drawback, he said, is the danger of killing desirable germs, like those that protect the skin and mouth against disease microbes. Immune-regulating drugs are less likely to show this disadvantage, because the immune system knows pretty well how to tell friendly forces from those of the enemy. " Copyright 2001 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.
CS>Re: GOBBLE UP THE SAVINGS!!! Multimeter
As a public service, as I'm voluntarily on their spam list... Chuck Go on and try it. The worst you can do is make a fool of yourself in front of all your friends. On Mon, 19 Nov 2001 14:34:38 -0800, "Harbor Freight Tools" wrote: >CEN-TECH® 7 FUNCTION MULTI-TESTER >SAVE 50%! >Reg. $9.99 SALE $4.99 > >Get accurate readings for DC voltage, DC current, AC voltage, resistance, >transistor test, >diode test, and continuity response. Features easy-to-read 3-1/2 digit LCD >readout, >positive set selector switch, and 32" leads. >ITEM 30756-3VGA >http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=30756 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Digital Multimeter
Unhook one of your silver rods from the power supply. Connect the multimeter to the power suppy terminal you unhooked. Connect the other multimeter lead to the silver wire you unhooked. Make SURE your multimeter is set to read milliamps. Don't be surprised if it reads 0 when you turn it on, it should increase within several minutes. Chuck Go Lemmings Go! On Mon, 19 Nov 2001 15:47:15 -0800, Ed Kasper wrote: >OK I bought one at Radio Shack for $15 a digital one > >NOW how do I use? > >Do I just put both the positive and negative ends in the water? >- after I unplugged the unit... > >I am using 110VAC volts to a bridge rectifier the output I believe is 54 >VDC >(2) 10 inches of wet silver (total 20 inches of wet silver) 5 inches apart >mechanical stirrer in center (cheapest radio shack motor) > >one and half gallon distilled water -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Re. FW: CS>Walking the Walk.....
From: Tai-Pan Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 15:25:05 -0600 To: silver-list Subject: CS>[Fwd: CS>Walking the Walk, or The Dumb Guys] By request, -- oozing on the muggy shore of the gulf coast l...@fbtc.net This is too coincidental for me. I have been thinking about this story for a week, had thought of requesting it again. Thank you, thank you, thank you for repeating I loved it two years ago, and love it even more now! Connie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Re:Comet display
The temperature was not high enough to start making colloidal silver. 10 degrees C is very cold to us hot climate types.. ;) Judith. - Original Message - From: "Marshall Dudley" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 2:21 AM Subject: Re: CS>Re:Comet display > Yes, spend 2 hours watching it. At least it is warm where you are! We bundled > up and piled on the blankets then laid on some sheets of plywood. It was > beautiful. 4 of us went up to the ranch away from the city lights to watch it. > The tails looked like CS electrodes (got to make it on topic :> ). > > Marshall > > Judith Thamm wrote: > > > If you get the chance to watch the comet display - it is worth watching. I > > think your turn in US is either tonight or next year depending on where you > > are. > > > > We were up at 4am watching the 'shooting stars' covering huge spans of the > > sky with greens and even reds in their tail colours. > > > > Judith from the bottom of the middle of down under > > > > -- > > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour >
Re: CS>Re Re: CS>IK side effect or cure of DEHYDRATION
Dear Igor, Drinking tea is NOT drinking water. Water is water all by itself! Drinking tea is consuming caffeine which has a dehydrating effect. If you drink tea you need to drink an extra cup of water to make up for its effect. There are no 'tricks' to drinking water other than perhaps chilling it a little or finding a brand that you like to drink. Filtration may work for you if you have tank water. Water is water; it is not water with something else added. Judith. - Original Message - From: "Igor Kaplun" To: Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 9:41 AM Subject: Re: CS>Re Re: CS>IK side effect or cure of DEHYDRATION > I went to Supermarket and purchased Tetley Iced tea mix. It is the > only powder mix without artificial stuff in it. > I found at home big cup about 20 ounces and fill it with cold, sweet > and sour Tetley drink. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>Digital Multimeter
OK I bought one at Radio Shack for $15 a digital one NOW how do I use? Do I just put both the positive and negative ends in the water? - after I unplugged the unit... I am using 110VAC volts to a bridge rectifier the output I believe is 54 VDC (2) 10 inches of wet silver (total 20 inches of wet silver) 5 inches apart mechanical stirrer in center (cheapest radio shack motor) one and half gallon distilled water sorry, I read earlier posts but I'm still confused about it. Ed -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>Digital Multimeter
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=41738 -Original Message- From: Scatter Brain [mailto:scttr...@webtv.net] Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 1:55 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Cc: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>Digital Multimeter Digital mutimeters can be had at www.harborfreight.com for as little as $7. Ken I don't mean to be 'picky' but the cheapest I could find there was $9.99. Bess -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Excretion of colloidal silver
Hi all, Could someone point me in the direction of any research done on the excretion of colloidal silver, from either humans or animals? Also, there was some JAMA articles mentioned recently relating to silver buildup in kidneys, I believe. I would appreciate any details of those, and if the articles can't be sent then the journal references would be good. I need to read up on these prior to attending the Bill Briggs talk next Monday. Thanks, Mike Fuller -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Good non-toxic substance to clean electrodes?
Dear Stephen: I have stopped using the Scotch Brite scrubby pad in favor of using "White Distilled Vinegar" on a paper towel. This removes the tarnish without removing so much silver. Also I clean the wires with Vinegar just before brewing the next batch. This removes fingerprint oils and tarnish from the silver. This results in much more repeatable CS production. Juergen P. (Jim) Meissner Check out my Website at www.MeissnerResearch.com Read about the benefits of the Brain State Synchronizer sounds for improving your life and health. - Original Message - From: Stephen Summers To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 7:08 AM Subject: CS>Good non-toxic substance to clean electrodes? Dear Members We produce very good CS using LVDC. When the process is complete, there is no silver oxide residue in the water at all. All that remains is a very thin film of black oxide on the electrodes (silver ions having bonded with any free oxygen in the water) which one simply wipes clean with a tissue or paper towel once the electrodes have been removed. After some time, however, the electrodes go a little dull in colour. Does anyone know of a good non-toxic cleaning liquid or substance that one can apply to restore the shiny clean surface of the silver? I know one can use a little steel wool or scouring pad, but I'm trying to avoid that since it is rather harsh on the surface of the electrodes. Any feedback will be appreciated. Regards Steve
CS>[Fwd: CS>Unusual way to make CS] Pt 1
By request -- oozing on the muggy shore of the gulf coast l...@fbtc.net --- Begin Message --- Greetings Anti-flummoxers of the CS art, Looking over the Syncrometer (1995)in Hulda Clarks book, Cure for all Diseases, brought to mind the Hieronymous machine (Dr. Hieronymous 1949). Reviewing both machines indicates they both use resonance of unknown Substances and are detected by the operators senses. Many years ago used the Symbolic Hieronymous machine with good results. Thought it may be interesting to try a Symbolic CS Generator. Sure enough, it worked after a few wrong tries. A VERY open mind is required for this or it won`t work. Working on the hypothesis of the Eloptic Radiation booster (an animus machine)(Henry Gross 1946) tried visualizing in my mind the smallest details of atoms and electrons reacting to an electric field and making CS. It worked, made 5ppm CS. Using two green plants, applied standard current made CS to one plant and Symbolic CS Generator CS to the other plant. Both plants were monitored for GRS changes while the CS was being applied. Both plants responded the same way when each had the two versions of CS applied to them. (GRS, galvanic skin resistance). Put the Symbolic CS Generator CS on some fungus, it died. Put some on a pimple and the inflamation went away. Hummm, very interesting. Have to try some more things. The Hieronymous machine detected silver in the solution and the Syncrometer also detected silver in the solution. Details for making the machines and GRS monitor are free for anyone who wants them. The animus machine is also refered to as the wishing machine. It can hurt poeple when used by persons who lack control of their emotions. Causing hurt on a person who does not deserve it will reflect back to the operator ten fold. I think a better name for it is *empressement* machine. :-) Bless you Bob Lee -- oozing on the muggy shore of the gulf coast l...@fbtc.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour --- End Message ---
Re: CS>Good non-toxic substance to clean electrodes?
Steve. Use a scrubby on the electrodes. Stop worrying, you are fighting a shadow. "Ole Bob" -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS> Heated Water
Hi, I know in the past you've discussed what happens when you heat the water before colloiding, and someone's formula turned out too dark or cloudy or something, but I don't remember what the advice was on that. We just tried heating the water to almost boiling and colloiding for 10 minutes, and the water is pretty dark, though we haven't strained it yet. Should we use this? Would someone send me some guidelines for doing it with warm or hot water? I'm used to it taking 45 minutes to an hour with 16 oz. of water at room temp. Thanks for any help, Cheryl
Re: CS>CS Pro
Hi James. In response to the questions: "Does anyone have experience with CS Pro generators? Do they produce high quality CS?" from Kent. You said: "Yes. Yes. " Several weeks back, September 21 to be exact, I asked about the Uni-Phase MHVDC units made by Cs-Pro. I got nothing but negative feedback at that time, both on the list and off the list. If anyone wants to check the archives type, "AC or dc, more than one kind of each" in the search window. There was only one response on list and I got two privately, both of them very negative. Your response was anything but specific as to your experiences with their generators and the CS they produce. Have you had experience with any of these specific products (the Uni-Phase MHVDC line)? if so is it very different from that posted by Solar? Any and all additional input on these devices would be very welcome. Thank you. LTR }}:{( Langsley T Russell Bulloved Bulldogs bullo...@nitline.com http://www.yahoogroups.com/group/The-Holistic-Bulldogger http://www.bullovedbulldogs.com/ -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Digital Multimeter
Digital mutimeters can be had at www.harborfreight.com for as little as $7. Ken I don't mean to be 'picky' but the cheapest I could find there was $9.99. Bess -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>fungus and CS
How about the test that Tai-Pan posted they did a few years ago. I still shiver when I think of that one. WOW he had guts, or was awful drunk one. Marshall Judith Thamm wrote: > Dear Damian, > Here's a good test - buy some chicken pieces and store them in the fridge > and completely forget they are there for two weeks. > > Take them out of the fridge and get a whiff of them - whiffy eh? > Now pour some ordinary water in a bowl and add a slosh - tablespoon or so of > CS. Soak the pieces in the liquid for a few minutes then remove them and > try the smell test again. No stink!!! > > Cook them as normal - eat them - and you get no food poisoning. > > The first time I did that, I had a good drink of CS as well, and snuck some > into Fred's tea as well - didn't want to knock him off just then. > > Now I routinely spray any fresh meat/fish/chicken or soak them for a few > minutes if I am in doubt as to their age [or time in the fridge]. > > THAT'S A TEST! > > Works too. > Judith. > > - Original Message - > From: "Damian" > To: > Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 7:59 PM > Subject: Re: CS>fungus and CS > > > You would think though that the combination of cs and h2o2 would be > > effective even just slightly but nothing happened. It just carried on. The > > medium i used to grow the fungus was geletene with sugar. The gel was > quite > > hard when i made it and did think it would grow anything, it took some > time > > but it did grow. > > > > What tests can i try to proove to myself and others that cs does work? > > > > Take care > > damian > > > > At 10:50 PM 11/14/01 -0500, you wrote: > > >Marshall said: > > > > > > > > >Ah, that explains it then. Fungus grows roots into the gelatine, and CS > > >does > > >not have mobility in solids, so it never reached the roots. Once it > plated > > >out > > >on the surface there was nothing to stop the roots from regrowing. H2O2 > > >does > > >have the mobility to get to the roots. > > > > > > > > >Would Ringworm also grow roots into skin? (whether dead follicles or > live) > > >And CS, unless using DMSO, would not penetrate the skin. > > >Is that why CS is not so effective on Ringworm? > > > > > >Connie > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Re:Comet display
Yes, spend 2 hours watching it. At least it is warm where you are! We bundled up and piled on the blankets then laid on some sheets of plywood. It was beautiful. 4 of us went up to the ranch away from the city lights to watch it. The tails looked like CS electrodes (got to make it on topic :> ). Marshall Judith Thamm wrote: > If you get the chance to watch the comet display - it is worth watching. I > think your turn in US is either tonight or next year depending on where you > are. > > We were up at 4am watching the 'shooting stars' covering huge spans of the > sky with greens and even reds in their tail colours. > > Judith from the bottom of the middle of down under > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Good non-toxic substance to clean electrodes?
Dear Members We produce very good CS using LVDC. When the process is complete, there is no silver oxide residue in the water at all. All that remains is a very thin film of black oxide on the electrodes (silver ions having bonded with any free oxygen in the water) which one simply wipes clean with a tissue or paper towel once the electrodes have been removed. After some time, however, the electrodes go a little dull in colour. Does anyone know of a good non-toxic cleaning liquid or substance that one can apply to restore the shiny clean surface of the silver? I know one can use a little steel wool or scouring pad, but I'm trying to avoid that since it is rather harsh on the surface of the electrodes. Any feedback will be appreciated. Regards Steve
Re: CS>Head UP newbies.
Digital mutimeters can be had at www.harborfreight.com for as little as $7. Ken At 08:41 AM 11/16/01 -0900, you wrote: >Good Morning, Grumpy! > You sayWHEN IN HEAVENS NAME ARE YOU PEOPLE GOING TO PUT DIGITAL >MULTI METERS IN YOUR SYSTEM. > >Maybe, when we can afford it??? > >In the meantime, we 'newbies' would benefit greatly if, when giving >directions, you more experienced producers would also tell how much DW >you're talking about. > >I thought we were here to learn...not all of us can start at the >top!!! > >Thanks for the help! >Bess > > >-- >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com >Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html >List maintainer: Mike Devour > > Tired of buying questionable qaulity colloidal silver at high health food store prices? Make your own high quality Colloidal Silver at home with this automatic process, current controlled colloidal silver generator. http://www.silverpuppy.com
Re: CS>Rehydration
- Original Message - From: Mike Fuller To: Silver list Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2001 5:22 PM Subject: CS>Rehydration > There has been a couple of methods of assisting rehydration mentioned on the > list. Duncan has detailed Microhydrin (which I believe is fairly expensive) > and Brooks has told us MSM helped rehydrate much faster (I wonder if this is > why MSM helps with arthritis pain?). > > Has anyone had experience with acid/alkaline water separators? (microwater?) > I have a recollection that the alkaline water is supposed to help rehydrate > because of the altered water structure. Has anyone also got any technical > details on how this achieves its rehydration? I own one and use it every day. I drink the alkaline water and use the acid water for douching, skin conditions, and sometimes as a mouthwash (making sure to spit out the water afterward). When I turn on the setting to a rather high alkalinity and drink between 4 and 6 ounces of water in one sitting, I begin to sweat, similar to my response when I'm in the sauna or when drinking coral calcium water. This is because the alkaline water encourages the elimination of toxins, which are acidic. I would assume that during this process of the interstitial fluid leaving the body as sweat, that rehydration is occurring (though I could be wrong). Nina Silver -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>OT Attention: Judy (Jdownmain)
Judy..Sorry to post OT, but I tried emailing you privately ("Jdownmaine" ), however it was returned: - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - ??? (reason: 550 Host unknown) Could you please email me privately so I can ask you a few things re: MULTI-TESTERS? Thank you. ? Barb ~ silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com wrote: > Subject: CS>Multiemeters for newbies. > Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 14:43:54 -0500 > From: "Jdownmaine" > To: > Mu;lltimeters for about $17 are available at your local hardware > store, > Walmart, etc. > Judy Down Maine > > Good Morning, Grumpy! > You sayWHEN IN HEAVENS NAME ARE YOU PEOPLE GOING TO PUT > DIGITAL > MULTI METERS IN YOUR SYSTEM. > >