date:20020903

Most people use the slight gap, and let the electric field pull the
water up to the electrode method I believe. I use the submerged
electrode, with a glass tube over each wire so that only about .1 of
tip is showing.  Then pump the water through the chamber at a rate of
about 1 gallon per hour for every 30 mA of current. I also cool the
water down to just above freezing before it enters the chamber.

Marshall

ascottsil...@aol.com wrote:

 Thanks for the response Marshall.

 I've seen a few circuits that use a 555 timer with a power transistor
 or an SCR on the output to drive an autotransformer that puts out
 about 20 KV. I was hoping that I could use stuff I had lying around
 the house for the HV source. I guess I need to break down and buy a
 neon sign transformer. Do you submerge both of your electrodes or
 leave a small air gap between one of them and the DW? Any advice is
 greatly appreciated.

 Thank you for your time.
 Andy Scott

 Date: Mon, 02 Sep 2002 11:51:23 -0400 From: Marshall Dudley
 mdud...@execonn.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSHVAC


 An auto spark coil would be problematic. First it would be difficult
 to get the current you need, since they step the voltage up by over
 1,000:1 I believe. It would require an amp to generate a milliamp of
 current on the secondary. Second, the coil is made to operate at high
 frequencies (that is a rapid rise and fall time). To allow the silver
 time to aggregate into particles, or move sufficiently away from the
 electrode before reversal (and it will reverse, even if the waveform
 is asymetrical unless you put a high voltage diode in the secondary)
 would require very high voltage.

 Lets take an example. To make a gallon an hour at 60 htz requires abou
 10K volts and about 25 mA of current. With a spark coil, which
 typically has a 10 microsecond pulse before the leakage inductance
 shorts it out, it would require 50,000 pulses a second to maintain the
 same duty cycle. But this would quickly burn the coil out, since it is
 made for duty cycles of maybe 1/100 of that max. So if we run it at
 500 pulses per second, we are running at about 1% duty cycle. The
 amount of current necessary would need to be about 100 times large for
 the same production rate. Thus we need about 1.4 Amps of secondary
 current. With the step up these have, that would require about 3,000
 amps on the input. And since the frequency is about 8 times as high,
 the current needs to be about 8 times as high as well, or about 30,000
 amps. Of course if you want to make it at a slower rate, then you
 could use a lower amperage, of maybe 1 amp, and make a gallon in about
 30,000 hours.

 Now I could be off by a factor of 2, or even an order of magnitude on
 some of these estimates, but the result would still be the same. I
 believe it would be impratical.

 Use a 15 KV neon sign transformer like I do, and it will work fine.

 Marshall

CSA lung disease -- suggestions?

2002-09-03 Thread Jdownmaine

A friend age 50 works in a sick school. Lots of lung irritations from the
air conditioning/heating system.
He has an encapsulated something in the upper lung. It has been needle
biopsied and is not cancerous,
but an infection. It has neither grown nor reduced with antibiotics so the
doctor's next step is an open
biopsy with or without removal. (Cute!)
I have discussed CS and a nebulizer as an alternative.
I suspect I won't make any headway, but I thought I'd ask for your
experiences, List.
Thanks, Judy Down Maine

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Re: CSA lung disease -- suggestions?

I don't  think that CS alone is going to do any good. The body has walled it
off, so things like CS will likely not make it inside.  The only thing I can
think of that might work would be to nebulize with a CS/DMSO combination.  But
check with those that have done such things before trying. I am not sure if it
is safe to inhale DMSO.

Marshall

Jdownmaine wrote:

 A friend age 50 works in a sick school. Lots of lung irritations from the
 air conditioning/heating system.
 He has an encapsulated something in the upper lung. It has been needle
 biopsied and is not cancerous,
 but an infection. It has neither grown nor reduced with antibiotics so the
 doctor's next step is an open
 biopsy with or without removal. (Cute!)
 I have discussed CS and a nebulizer as an alternative.
 I suspect I won't make any headway, but I thought I'd ask for your
 experiences, List.
 Thanks, Judy Down Maine

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RE: CSA lung disease -- suggestions?

2002-09-03 Thread Medwith, Robert

LAST Winter I was sick from work we had a wet basement and something was
growing
there. I was using CS in a nebulizer and it helped but Lungs did not clear
completely till problem was fixed and basement dried up.
Point is CS works.
Note Federal OSHA was called to get them to address problem.
If any one is afraid of repercussions on the complaint form there is a box 
for whether or not you want your name to be used.
I have filed complaints before and remained unanimous.

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Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 10:35 AM
To: Silver List
Subject: CSA lung disease -- suggestions?


A friend age 50 works in a sick school. Lots of lung irritations from the
air conditioning/heating system.
He has an encapsulated something in the upper lung. It has been needle
biopsied and is not cancerous,
but an infection. It has neither grown nor reduced with antibiotics so the
doctor's next step is an open
biopsy with or without removal. (Cute!)
I have discussed CS and a nebulizer as an alternative.
I suspect I won't make any headway, but I thought I'd ask for your
experiences, List.
Thanks, Judy Down Maine

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Marshall Dudley wrote:

 I don't  think that CS alone is going to do any good. The body has walled it
 off, so things like CS will likely not make it inside.  The only thing I can
 think of that might work would be to nebulize with a CS/DMSO combination.  But
 check with those that have done such things before trying. I am not sure if it
 is safe to inhale DMSO.

 Marshall

We have nebulized both people and animals with CS/DMSO with very good success.  
We
have reversed pneumonia on both people and animals doing this.

Jeannie



 Jdownmaine wrote:

  A friend age 50 works in a sick school. Lots of lung irritations from the
  air conditioning/heating system.
  He has an encapsulated something in the upper lung. It has been needle
  biopsied and is not cancerous,
  but an infection. It has neither grown nor reduced with antibiotics so the
  doctor's next step is an open
  biopsy with or without removal. (Cute!)
  I have discussed CS and a nebulizer as an alternative.
  I suspect I won't make any headway, but I thought I'd ask for your
  experiences, List.
  Thanks, Judy Down Maine
 
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Re: CSA lung disease -- suggestions?

I should add the following.  I used about 9 parts CS to about 1 part
DMSO for nebulizing.  I'm not sure if using it much stronger would be OK
or not.

Jeannie

Marshall Dudley wrote:

 I don't  think that CS alone is going to do any good. The body has walled it
 off, so things like CS will likely not make it inside.  The only thing I can
 think of that might work would be to nebulize with a CS/DMSO combination.  But
 check with those that have done such things before trying. I am not sure if it
 is safe to inhale DMSO.

 Marshall

We have nebulized both people and animals with CS/DMSO with very good
success.  We
have reversed pneumonia on both people and animals doing this.

Jeannie



 Jdownmaine wrote:

  A friend age 50 works in a sick school. Lots of lung irritations from the
  air conditioning/heating system.
  He has an encapsulated something in the upper lung. It has been needle
  biopsied and is not cancerous,
  but an infection. It has neither grown nor reduced with antibiotics so the
  doctor's next step is an open
  biopsy with or without removal. (Cute!)
  I have discussed CS and a nebulizer as an alternative.
  I suspect I won't make any headway, but I thought I'd ask for your
  experiences, List.
  Thanks, Judy Down Maine
 
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CShave you ever heard of these distilled waters,

2002-09-03 Thread Val Q

Dear Mars, 

I would not use Willard Water for this purpose.  I do add Willard Water to my 
reverse osmosis water to get some minerals back in that I have taken out; 
supposedly Willard Water also helps make you more alkaline.  I use this for 
drinking.  Since you make CS with distilled water (no minerals), the Willard 
Water wouldn't be a good option. 

As far as aloe, well...aloe has properties.  So you aren't making CS from 
distilled in this case either. 

When I make CS, I buy distilled water, period.  I have a distiller, but it 
always has a taste, which distilled water is not supposed to have.  So bottom 
line is I don't even use it. 

Valerie 

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The poster noted that the pathogen is encapsulated.
That is what would make treating it more difficult with CS.
Connie



 
 We have nebulized both people and animals with CS/DMSO with very good success.
 We
 have reversed pneumonia on both people and animals doing this.
 
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CSFW: Cat Fancy article/treating FeLeuk with CS



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Here is the preamble to the Cat Fancy Article:

Positive Outlook, Positive Environment

Veterinariana find cats with the leukemia virus can enjoy life? By Steve
Friess

Most people try to avoid FeLV positive cats. However, Ron and Debbie
Reinstedler will drive hundreds of miles to adopt them.
The Louisville, Ky., couple rescued a pair of stray kittens found by friends
in 2000 and soon discovered both cats contracted FeLV. To protect their
FeLV-negative cats, the couple converted the apartment above their printing
business into an FeLV-positive cat haven. Another friend then told them of
six other FeLV-positive kittens at a shelter in Indiana, and a colony
started to develop.
Today, the Reinstedlers usually host approximately 50 FeLV-positive cats
ranging in age from four months to 12 years old, some  believed to have
lived with FeLV for 10 years. On one occasion, they drove to St. Louis to
meet someone from Topeka Kan., who wanted to turn over FeLV-positive cats
and contacted tham via the Internet.
The Reinstedlers turned their veritable cattery into an unofficial
laboratory, splitting the animals into three groups and administering
different treatments to observe any difference in outcomes. All receive
Interferon alpha in the common week-on, week-off schedule, but one set also
takes the antibiotic Baytril and another third take the liquid colloidal
silver, a homeopathic remedy. The experiement, that started in May, could
take eight months or more to yield conclusions, if any.
While the effort is expensive---the Reinstedlers sometimes spend as much as
$650 a month in veterinary bills---they believe it to be worthwhile.
''They all deserve a chance to live,'' says Ron Reinstedler, 58. ''Many
people, as soon as they find a cat is FeLV-positive, they want to put it
down.
Why? They can live good lives for six months, a year, 18 months and
sometimes much longer. They deserve the same as everyone else does.''

Steve Friess is a free-lance writer in Reno, Nev., whose contributions have
appeared in The New York Times, U.S. News and World Report and Dog Fancy.

RE: CSFW: Cat Fancy article/treating FeLeuk with CS

2002-09-03 Thread KATYE MCDORMAN

Thanks

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Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 1:46 PM
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Subject: CSFW: Cat Fancy article/treating FeLeuk with CS

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Positive Outlook, Positive Environment

Veterinariana find cats with the leukemia virus can enjoy life?
By Steve Friess

Most people try to avoid FeLV positive cats. However, Ron and
Debbie Reinstedler will drive hundreds of miles to adopt them. 
The Louisville, Ky., couple rescued a pair of stray kittens
found by friends in 2000 and soon discovered both cats contracted FeLV.
To protect their FeLV-negative cats, the couple converted the apartment
above their printing business into an FeLV-positive cat haven. Another
friend then told them of six other FeLV-positive kittens at a shelter in
Indiana, and a colony started to develop.
Today, the Reinstedlers usually host approximately 50
FeLV-positive cats ranging in age from four months to 12 years old, some
believed to have lived with FeLV for 10 years. On one occasion, they
drove to St. Louis to meet someone from Topeka Kan., who wanted to turn
over FeLV-positive cats and contacted tham via the Internet.
The Reinstedlers turned their veritable cattery into an
unofficial laboratory, splitting the animals into three groups and
administering different treatments to observe any difference in
outcomes. All receive Interferon alpha in the common week-on, week-off
schedule, but one set also takes the antibiotic Baytril and another
third take the liquid colloidal silver, a homeopathic remedy. The
experiement, that started in May, could take eight months or more to
yield conclusions, if any.
While the effort is expensive---the Reinstedlers sometimes spend
as much as $650 a month in veterinary bills---they believe it to be
worthwhile.
''They all deserve a chance to live,'' says Ron Reinstedler, 58.
''Many people, as soon as they find a cat is FeLV-positive, they want to
put it down.
Why? They can live good lives for six months, a year, 18 months
and sometimes much longer. They deserve the same as everyone else
does.''

Steve Friess is a free-lance writer in Reno, Nev., whose
contributions have appeared in The New York Times, U.S. News and World
Report and Dog Fancy.

CSFW: Cat Fancy Article, Oct. 2002

I just sent this off to the author of the article.


STEVE FRIESS
2166 Camellia Drive
Reno, NV 89512
st...@stevefriess.com


I am emailing inre to your article in the Cat Fancy for Oct.
I am assuming you also authored the preamble to the article.

In the preamble to the article, it mentions using colloidal silver to treat
one of the groups of cats FeLV positive.

I want to clarify if it is truly colloidal silver they are using or the
homeopathic remedy of
Argentum metallicum.
''another third take the liquid colloidal silver, a homeopathic
remedy.''

The two substances are vastly different.

Colloidal silver is NOT homeopathic, and Agentum metallicum is NOT colloidal
silver.

Thank you,
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Re: CSA lung disease -- suggestions?



Jim Meissner wrote:


 Dear Jeannie, could you please provide some more information about DMSO
 dosages, warnings, effects, etc?

DMSO is another thing that has gotten a bad rap, and is really not toxic.  The
government came out and said that it could cause damage to the eyes.  What they
didn't tell you was that they gave the rats the equivalent of a person drinking
a quart a day.  At that point there seemed to be some damage to the eyes, though
the rats didn't go blind, and the effect cannot be duplicated in other animals.
So it probably wouldn't happen to you if you did drink a quart a day (heaven
forbid!).

The only usual side-effect is that if you use it too strong, it can irritate the
skin.  When I use it, I usually mix it with CS.  For external use, I use it at
50/50.  This relieves my husbands arthritis when applied externally to the
painful joints.

When I use it simply to make the CS penetrate, I usually use it 90% CS to 10%
DMSO.  I wouldn't breathe it any stronger than that, although I don't really
know if it would hurt you or not.  We have also sometimes added a drop of two of
tea tree oil to the nebulizer.

I have used the CS/DMSO solution (the weaker one) for ring worm and other skin
problems with a great deal of success.  I have reversed all kinds of infections,
including abcesses, and blood poisoning by using this externally.

By the way, there is a story that one lady died from taking DMSO.  She was in
Ireland, and was taking several other drugs.  She took DMSO internally, got a
allergic reaction, but continued taking everything.  Yes, it killed her.  It was
a really dumb thing to do.

For one thing, DMSO makes other drugs more effective, as it makes them penetrate
more.  Heaven only knows what she was allergic to, but you never keep on taking
things if you get an allergic reaction.  There is always somebody allergic to
anything, and allergies can be dangerous.

But these are the only problems that the government could dig up on DMSO.
Considering how dangerous many drugs are, DMSO is extremely safe.  Many people
take it internally for arthitis pain control.  We have never done that, so I
have no experience with it.

Jeannie


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Re: CSRE: Glad cow syndrome

Thank you Catherine.  I looked aver the antidotes some
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Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 10:13 AM
Subject: Re: CSRE: Glad cow syndrome


 Dear Barbara,
 
 
   You may want to look at the anecdotes at this site
 prior to making a decision about ibogaine.
 
 
 
 http://www.ibogaine.org/
 
 
 Regards,
 Catherine
 
 
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That is why the DMSO is used. DMSO will carry the CS into the encapsulation.

Marshall

Connie wrote:

 The poster noted that the pathogen is encapsulated.
 That is what would make treating it more difficult with CS.
 Connie

 
  We have nebulized both people and animals with CS/DMSO with very good 
  success.
  We
  have reversed pneumonia on both people and animals doing this.
 
  Jeannie

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2002-09-03 Thread Jim Meissner

A good friend of mine had a serious case of pneumonia that did not respond
to the prescribed antibiotic.  We decided to experiment with CS.  She
consumed about 4 oz of CS per day.  This certainly helped in a general way
and she was able to go to work and function, but the lungs did not seem to
clear up.  The ultrasonic humidifier with CS provided some welcome relief.
We then tried the oxygen CS nebulizer per the Brooks Bradley information and
my friend could actually feel the CS attacking the infection at the bottom
of her lungs.  This also provided some extra energy which seemed to help the
recovery.  If she nebulized at night, she would not be able to sleep!  Still
the progress seemed slow.  Then we tried bubbling ozone in the ears and
under the tongue.  The under the tongue method provided the best results.
She was able to feel ozone attacking the infection from the other side
 the inside? )!  Ultimately all three methods used in combination seemed to
work together.  There was no doubt that the oxygen CS nibbled away at the
infection.  But the ozone ( in the blood stream? ) was probably the major
player and the ultrasonic CS helped relieve the coughing caused by the
effects of the ozone.

I understand the DMSO could pull CS through the barrier, but we were too
timid or conservative to try that.

Dear Jeannie, could you please provide some more information about DMSO
dosages, warnings, effects, etc?

Juergen P. (Jim) Meissner
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To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: CSA lung disease -- suggestions?




 Marshall Dudley wrote:

  I don't  think that CS alone is going to do any good. The body has
walled it
  off, so things like CS will likely not make it inside.  The only thing I
can
  think of that might work would be to nebulize with a CS/DMSO
combination.  But
  check with those that have done such things before trying. I am not sure
if it
  is safe to inhale DMSO.
 
  Marshall

 We have nebulized both people and animals with CS/DMSO with very good
success.  We
 have reversed pneumonia on both people and animals doing this.

 Jeannie

 
 
  Jdownmaine wrote:
 
   A friend age 50 works in a sick school. Lots of lung irritations
from the
   air conditioning/heating system.
   He has an encapsulated something in the upper lung. It has been
needle
   biopsied and is not cancerous,
   but an infection. It has neither grown nor reduced with antibiotics
so the
   doctor's next step is an open
   biopsy with or without removal. (Cute!)
   I have discussed CS and a nebulizer as an alternative.
   I suspect I won't make any headway, but I thought I'd ask for your
   experiences, List.
   Thanks, Judy Down Maine
  
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Re: CSOT: echinacea

Connie,

I too would like to have access to  that paper on Echinacea.  It is truly
amazing!
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From: Roman r_...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 5:39 PM
Subject: Re: CSOT: echinacea

 Try http://www.powerattunements.com/herp.html . Search for echinacea on
that
 page.
 Also, http://www.curezone.com/schulze/handbook/echinacea.asp

 Roman

 Connie wrote:

  A couple of more years back, on one of my lists, (that being one of the
  problems), I read a paper with an alternative opinion on whether
echinacea
  should be used on an on/off schedule (as is normally suggested).
  That piece was also saved on a system that is long gone.
  I have searched the couple lists I thougth it may be on but have not
been
  able to locate it.
  Does anyone have reference to such an article?
  TIA
  Connie

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Jim Meissner wrote:

 Then we tried bubbling ozone in the ears and
 under the tongue.

Can you explain? Do you mean you put water in the ear, then bubbled ozone in it
through a tube in the ear?

Marshall


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RE: CSRE: Glad cow syndrome


It's all in/is THE mind.

Consciousness is an inherent attribute of space.

Proposed brief definition of Grok:  intuitive synchronistic epiphany.

And the ravens call, Attention, Attention, Attention

James-Osbourne: Holmes


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From: Ode Coyote [mailto:coyote...@earthlink.net]
Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 4:55 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSRE: Glad cow syndrome


The psychedelic experience doesn't lend itself too communicable concepts
very well.
 I mean, how does one convey the meaning of Heinliens Grok when Grok is
so far beyond the limits of language and even brain that selects
language...when Grok is beyond judgments that make concepts linear and
place differential values upon them.
When one can actually watch chaos come spinning into existance from nowhere
and form itself into extremely detailed scenery and experience within that
scenery with other people in that experience..all while being perfectly
aware that one is sitting in a chair with eyes that are closed...
 Well. Perhaps what was experienced was a movie of the process by which
reality itself is created in the sensory system.
  Me makes mention of bootstrap chicken/egg theory.  Chickens and eggs are
an experienced fact but both came first. In a observational state of mind,
that makes perfect sense..describing why or how it makes sense, doesn't.
It's like running a math equation in a word processing program.
 So yea, one sees many things, but in a context that's all inclusive beyond
the limits of linear understanding and expression.

 There was , like, this singularity thing that , like , wow man,
encompassed the entire universe, hey far out!, and made itself into a
garbage bag with pinholes in it..and each of all the pinholes were thinking
it alone was the source of the light being emmited from them and couldn't
see the bag at all, I mean like man, the bag was space, See? And some of
the pinholes were fighting about who was the shiniest and brightest light
when really they were just a bigger orifice shitting less light...and
that's where I am, except I can't be 'cause I'm here making up molecules by
imposing and projecting  geometric everythingness patterns onto nothing and
I'm too busy believing I'm not to see that I am what I'm seeing I'm not.
 And no brain fart smells bad to the brain than com-poots it?  Know what I
mean Dude? No?
 Ok, I just gotta new old Suburu. Wanna ride?  We can go watch the ocean
think it's a bunch of droplets dancing. No?  OK, girls in bikinis then.
That's cool!

Ken



NOTE.  Mandatory Colloidal-Silver-Related-Content follows: I wonder if you
took a dose of a potent psychedelic with silver could you could watch the
sliver kill the pathogens up-close and figure out the mechanism on a
molecular level?

James-Osbourne: Holmes


-Original Message-
From: Ode Coyote [mailto:coyote...@earthlink.net]
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2002 6:36 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSRE: Glad cow syndrome


  I really don't know.  I've not been to a doctor in 35+ years.  I suspect
it was a swollen gland and a good dose of mentally directed niacin from the
shroom did it in.  The heat seemed to be both thermal and the prickly kind
gotten from  niacin.
 It is the brain that directs everything, after all.  Direct the brain and
there's no tellin what can happen. Shamans have been using the shroom for
eons to enable alternative focus of attention.
Psychedelics have been know to completely reprogram people overnight.
Longtime addicts to alchohol, coke and heroin have been cured in days
without withdrawals with the use of strong psychedelics such as abogain
[sp?] treatments.The early experiments with LSD yeilded some similar
amazing results too.
 But it's not legal here.
 People who have their programming erased get strange ideas about freedom
that those who would define it for us don't like. [No more achoholism  AND
no more marriage?  No sense of hurry or pressure..no need for a car?]
 They like the idea that one would be freed of a drug addiction, but don't
like it when the person gets freed of the whole consumer addiction/wage
serf value system enchilada.

 If someone rethinks the entire system from scratch..that could be
dangerous.
 When role playing means nothing, what then, is the role of leader worth?
Ken


At 01:05 PM 8/30/02 -0500, you wrote:


Ode Coyote wrote:

  Psylicybe [sp]  Cubensis ..the cow plops golden dollar..brain
fertilizer.

 It wasn't just a tight muscle, it was an actual lump about the size of a
 ping pong ball. Quite disturbingly large and getting bigger.
 Ken

Could this have been a fatty tumor?  I have several of those.

Jeannie




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RE: CSparticle size distribution analyser

That looks hot.

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From: jrowl...@nctimes.net [mailto:jrowl...@nctimes.net]
Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 9:17 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSparticle size distribution analyser


Dear Santa,

 The PL-PSDA particle size distribution analyser is an integrated,

 automated system for the rapid determination of particle size distribution

 of colloidal dispersions...in ten minutes

http://www.polymerlabs.com/partsize/
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RE: CSSodium Hydroxide was buying cs instead of making it.

Thank you. 

James-Osbourne: Holmes

-Original Message-
From: Ivan Anderson [mailto:i...@win.co.nz]
Sent: Sunday, September 01, 2002 4:59 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSSodium Hydroxide was buying cs instead of making it.

Hi James and Marshall.

The reason why sodium hydroxide is corrosive is that it can hold large
amounts of OH- ions in solution. It is corrosive at pH14, but totally
harmless at pH8, in fact it is good for you at pH8-9 and is no more
than alkalised water.
When one adds NaOH to water it more or less completely ionises, that
is, it disassociates into its component ions Na+ and OH-, which then
become free and dissolved. A solution of NaOH pH 7.4 has the same
number of free OH- ions as blood, and could be safely injected into
the blood stream. By your reasoning our blood contains sodium
hydroxide.
I have noticed this before, you guys seem to be intimidated by the
name Lye, but it is nothing more than discrete sodium and hydroxyl
ions swimming in water.
You can do what ever you like to the Cl-, Ag+ or Na+, but if the OH-
concentration stays the same the corrosiveness and pH of the solution
is not altered.

Regards
Ivan.

 -Original Message-
 From: James Osbourne, Holmes [mailto:a...@cybermesa.com]
 Sent: Sunday, 1 September 2002 6:48 a.m.
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: RE: CSSodium Hydroxide was buying cs instead of making it.

 Also, some very small portion of the water is ionized under standard
 conditions.

 James-Osbourne: Holmes

 -Original Message-
 From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@execonn.com]
 Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2002 9:01 AM
 To: *Silver-List*
 Subject: Re: CSSodium Hydroxide was buying cs instead of making it.

 Perhaps the OH is already there.  Maybe when one makes the
 CS, when an
 oxygen atom is pulled out at the electrode during electrolysis, the
 remaining OH sticks around to balance the silver ion.  So
 when salt is
 added, there is a simple reshuffle, with the OH and the Cl
 swapping partners
 so to speak.  That would give silver chloride and sodium
 hydroxide, or lye.

 Marshall

 Ivan Anderson wrote:

  Just to clear up a few things :)

  If one does not add extra OH- ions to the mix, then the
 talk of sodium
  hydroxide (Na+ OH-) is redundant.

  The sodium ions take no part in the reaction (Ag+ + Cl-
 = AgCl), and
  are called spectator ions.

  Sodium ions cannot ionise anything as they are already oxidised,
  sodium metal on the other hand reacts violently with water.

  Ivan.

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RE: CSRE: Glad cow syndrome

There is a simple reagent that will identify the safe one; probably in that
great sounding book.

James-Osbourne: Holmes

-Original Message-
From: Malcolm Stebbins [mailto:s...@asis.com]
Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 6:56 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSRE: Glad cow syndrome

Well, OTOH there is Stropharia Rogosoannulata (I kid you not!) commonly
called
the King or Garden Stropharia, wine mushroom, Omigodlookathesizathathing!!
(colloq.)
It is an undeniable saprophyte.
So-called 'Stropharia Cubensis' are  usually S. semiglobata, a dung fungus
resembling  P. cubensis but not blue staining.  There are other imitators of
the
true blue P. spp. that stain blackish and will make you sicker 'n a dog or
worse,
so readers be warned that sampling some mushrooms can reduce your mileage
right
down to zero.

I think you'd enjoy *Growing Gourmet and Medicinal Mushrooms* by Stamets,
Ten
Speed Press.
From the Frontispiece . . . . . . . . . Mycotopia:  An environment wherein
ecological equilibrium is enhanced through the judicious use of fungi for
the
betterment of all lifeforms.

In a transparently devious attempt to keep this on topic; the False idea
that you
can distinguish a poisonous mushroom from non-poisonous ones because it will
discolor a piece of silver, or make it non-poisonous  by cooking it with
silver
is yet more of the stuff  S. globata grows on.

Take care,  Malcolm

Ode Coyote wrote:

  Ok, cool!
 Ken

 At 08:31 AM 8/31/02 -0700, you wrote:
 Sorry Ken.  Stropharia Cubensis is exactly the same as Psilocybe Cubensis
 and they do not grow on wood.  They are coprophilous (dung lovers).

 Trem

 - Original Message -
 From: Ode Coyote coyote...@earthlink.net
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2002 4:36 AM
 Subject: RE: CSRE: Glad cow syndrome

Stropheria is a slightly different genus growing mostly in wood.
There
  are panaeolus cyanescens also in the patties in the Gulf area.

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RE: CSA lung disease -- suggestions?

Brooks Bradley says DMSO is good for penetrating goo in the lungs.

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From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@execonn.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 8:37 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSA lung disease -- suggestions?

I don't  think that CS alone is going to do any good. The body has walled it
off, so things like CS will likely not make it inside.  The only thing I can
think of that might work would be to nebulize with a CS/DMSO combination.
But
check with those that have done such things before trying. I am not sure if
it
is safe to inhale DMSO.

Marshall

Jdownmaine wrote:

 A friend age 50 works in a sick school. Lots of lung irritations from
the
 air conditioning/heating system.
 He has an encapsulated something in the upper lung. It has been needle
 biopsied and is not cancerous,
 but an infection. It has neither grown nor reduced with antibiotics so
the
 doctor's next step is an open
 biopsy with or without removal. (Cute!)
 I have discussed CS and a nebulizer as an alternative.
 I suspect I won't make any headway, but I thought I'd ask for your
 experiences, List.
 Thanks, Judy Down Maine

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RE: CSA lung disease -- suggestions?

DMSO will carry anything below a critical molecular weight into and
throughout the body; good stuff or bad stuff.

Therefore, clean the skin thoroughly with soap and water before applying it.
I even go the extreme of rinsing the area with distilled water after rinsing
away the soap with tap water, because most tap water is not to be trusted.

James-Osbourne: Holmes


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Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 12:32 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSA lung disease -- suggestions?




Jim Meissner wrote:


 Dear Jeannie, could you please provide some more information about DMSO
 dosages, warnings, effects, etc?

DMSO is another thing that has gotten a bad rap, and is really not toxic.
The
government came out and said that it could cause damage to the eyes.  What
they
didn't tell you was that they gave the rats the equivalent of a person
drinking
a quart a day.  At that point there seemed to be some damage to the eyes,
though
the rats didn't go blind, and the effect cannot be duplicated in other
animals.
So it probably wouldn't happen to you if you did drink a quart a day (heaven
forbid!).

The only usual side-effect is that if you use it too strong, it can irritate
the
skin.  When I use it, I usually mix it with CS.  For external use, I use it
at
50/50.  This relieves my husbands arthritis when applied externally to the
painful joints.

When I use it simply to make the CS penetrate, I usually use it 90% CS to
10%
DMSO.  I wouldn't breathe it any stronger than that, although I don't really
know if it would hurt you or not.  We have also sometimes added a drop of
two of
tea tree oil to the nebulizer.

I have used the CS/DMSO solution (the weaker one) for ring worm and other
skin
problems with a great deal of success.  I have reversed all kinds of
infections,
including abcesses, and blood poisoning by using this externally.

By the way, there is a story that one lady died from taking DMSO.  She was
in
Ireland, and was taking several other drugs.  She took DMSO internally, got
a
allergic reaction, but continued taking everything.  Yes, it killed her.  It
was
a really dumb thing to do.

For one thing, DMSO makes other drugs more effective, as it makes them
penetrate
more.  Heaven only knows what she was allergic to, but you never keep on
taking
things if you get an allergic reaction.  There is always somebody allergic
to
anything, and allergies can be dangerous.

But these are the only problems that the government could dig up on DMSO.
Considering how dangerous many drugs are, DMSO is extremely safe.  Many
people
take it internally for arthitis pain control.  We have never done that, so I
have no experience with it.

Jeannie


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Re: CSA lung disease -- suggestions?

James Osbourne, Holmes wrote:

 DMSO will carry anything below a critical molecular weight into and
 throughout the body; good stuff or bad stuff.

Do you have any idea what that weight would be?  And are you sure it is the
weight instead of the size that is important?

Marshall


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d.black wrote:

 Jeannie,
 What form of DMSO do you use?
 thanks,
 Nancy...

The only form I have ever seen is a clear liquid.  I have seen 70% and 99%.  I
prefer 99%, since I mix with CS.

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RE: CSRE: Glad cow syndrome

It is a real herb.  From the Congo.

Probably, your best chance of locating someone with current clinical
information on it would be to contact High Times magazine.

The article I read may have been in Nexus Magizine.

I am sorry that I do not have more useful information for you.

James-Osbourne: Holmes


-Original Message-
From: Barbara Liles [mailto:ba...@netease.net]
Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 9:53 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSRE: Glad cow syndrome


James,

I'm sorta confused here, but have a very dear child that needs help with
drug addiction.  I think crank, heroine and pot are all involved.

What is Ibogain.  Is it really a tangible thing or slang for whatever?
- Original Message -
From: James Osbourne, Holmes a...@cybermesa.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2002 9:49 AM
Subject: RE: CSRE: Glad cow syndrome


 Yes.  All of that has also been my observation.  When one experiences a
 really clear mind, the fuzz-and-blur of alcohol becomes thick and
 distasteful, without even considering the aftereffects and long-range
health
 deterioration.

 Ibogain.  Relatively easy withdrawal from heroin addiction after as little
 as one dose has been reported in the medical community.  I hear it is a
 fantastic aphrodisiac too.  I have never been able to track it down.


 NOTE.  Mandatory Colloidal-Silver-Related-Content follows: I wonder if you
 took a dose of a potent psychedelic with silver could you could watch the
 sliver kill the pathogens up-close and figure out the mechanism on a
 molecular level?

 James-Osbourne: Holmes


 -Original Message-
 From: Ode Coyote [mailto:coyote...@earthlink.net]
 Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2002 6:36 AM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSRE: Glad cow syndrome


   I really don't know.  I've not been to a doctor in 35+ years.  I suspect
 it was a swollen gland and a good dose of mentally directed niacin from
the
 shroom did it in.  The heat seemed to be both thermal and the prickly kind
 gotten from  niacin.
  It is the brain that directs everything, after all.  Direct the brain and
 there's no tellin what can happen. Shamans have been using the shroom for
 eons to enable alternative focus of attention.
 Psychedelics have been know to completely reprogram people overnight.
 Longtime addicts to alchohol, coke and heroin have been cured in days
 without withdrawals with the use of strong psychedelics such as abogain
 [sp?] treatments.The early experiments with LSD yeilded some similar
 amazing results too.
  But it's not legal here.
  People who have their programming erased get strange ideas about freedom
 that those who would define it for us don't like. [No more achoholism  AND
 no more marriage?  No sense of hurry or pressure..no need for a car?]
  They like the idea that one would be freed of a drug addiction, but don't
 like it when the person gets freed of the whole consumer addiction/wage
 serf value system enchilada.

  If someone rethinks the entire system from scratch..that could be
 dangerous.
  When role playing means nothing, what then, is the role of leader worth?
 Ken


 At 01:05 PM 8/30/02 -0500, you wrote:
 
 
 Ode Coyote wrote:
 
   Psylicybe [sp]  Cubensis ..the cow plops golden dollar..brain
 fertilizer.
 
  It wasn't just a tight muscle, it was an actual lump about the size of
a
  ping pong ball. Quite disturbingly large and getting bigger.
  Ken
 
 Could this have been a fatty tumor?  I have several of those.
 
 Jeannie
 
 
 
 
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 Oregon Coast
 
 
 
 
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Re: CSA lung disease -- suggestions?

2002-09-03 Thread d.black

Jeannie,
What form of DMSO do you use?
thanks,
Nancy...


 DMSO is another thing that has gotten a bad rap, and is really not toxic.
The
 government came out and said that it could cause damage to the eyes.  What
they
 didn't tell you was that they gave the rats the equivalent of a person
drinking
 a quart a day.  At that point there seemed to be some damage to the eyes,
though
 the rats didn't go blind, and the effect cannot be duplicated in other
animals.
 So it probably wouldn't happen to you if you did drink a quart a day
(heaven
 forbid!).

 The only usual side-effect is that if you use it too strong, it can
irritate the
 skin.  When I use it, I usually mix it with CS.  For external use, I use
it at
 50/50.  This relieves my husbands arthritis when applied externally to the
 painful joints.

 When I use it simply to make the CS penetrate, I usually use it 90% CS to
10%
 DMSO.  I wouldn't breathe it any stronger than that, although I don't
really
 know if it would hurt you or not.  We have also sometimes added a drop of
two of
 tea tree oil to the nebulizer.

 I have used the CS/DMSO solution (the weaker one) for ring worm and other
skin
 problems with a great deal of success.  I have reversed all kinds of
infections,
 including abcesses, and blood poisoning by using this externally.

 By the way, there is a story that one lady died from taking DMSO.  She was
in
 Ireland, and was taking several other drugs.  She took DMSO internally,
got a
 allergic reaction, but continued taking everything.  Yes, it killed her.
It was
 a really dumb thing to do.

 For one thing, DMSO makes other drugs more effective, as it makes them
penetrate
 more.  Heaven only knows what she was allergic to, but you never keep on
taking
 things if you get an allergic reaction.  There is always somebody allergic
to
 anything, and allergies can be dangerous.

 But these are the only problems that the government could dig up on DMSO.
 Considering how dangerous many drugs are, DMSO is extremely safe.  Many
people
 take it internally for arthitis pain control.  We have never done that, so
I
 have no experience with it.

 Jeannie


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RE: CSRE: Glad cow syndrome

I am contacting a friend who is a Shrink and has a great deal of knowledge
about such matters.  If he has useful leads will forward them to you.

James-Osbourne: Holmes

-Original Message-
From: Barbara Liles [mailto:ba...@netease.net]
Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 9:53 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSRE: Glad cow syndrome

James,

I'm sorta confused here, but have a very dear child that needs help with
drug addiction.  I think crank, heroine and pot are all involved.

What is Ibogain.  Is it really a tangible thing or slang for whatever?
- Original Message -
From: James Osbourne, Holmes a...@cybermesa.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2002 9:49 AM
Subject: RE: CSRE: Glad cow syndrome

 Yes.  All of that has also been my observation.  When one experiences a
 really clear mind, the fuzz-and-blur of alcohol becomes thick and
 distasteful, without even considering the aftereffects and long-range
health
 deterioration.

 Ibogain.  Relatively easy withdrawal from heroin addiction after as little
 as one dose has been reported in the medical community.  I hear it is a
 fantastic aphrodisiac too.  I have never been able to track it down.

 NOTE.  Mandatory Colloidal-Silver-Related-Content follows: I wonder if you
 took a dose of a potent psychedelic with silver could you could watch the
 sliver kill the pathogens up-close and figure out the mechanism on a
 molecular level?

 James-Osbourne: Holmes

 -Original Message-
 From: Ode Coyote [mailto:coyote...@earthlink.net]
 Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2002 6:36 AM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSRE: Glad cow syndrome

   I really don't know.  I've not been to a doctor in 35+ years.  I suspect
 it was a swollen gland and a good dose of mentally directed niacin from
the
 shroom did it in.  The heat seemed to be both thermal and the prickly kind
 gotten from  niacin.
  It is the brain that directs everything, after all.  Direct the brain and
 there's no tellin what can happen. Shamans have been using the shroom for
 eons to enable alternative focus of attention.
 Psychedelics have been know to completely reprogram people overnight.
 Longtime addicts to alchohol, coke and heroin have been cured in days
 without withdrawals with the use of strong psychedelics such as abogain
 [sp?] treatments.The early experiments with LSD yeilded some similar
 amazing results too.
  But it's not legal here.
  People who have their programming erased get strange ideas about freedom
 that those who would define it for us don't like. [No more achoholism  AND
 no more marriage?  No sense of hurry or pressure..no need for a car?]
  They like the idea that one would be freed of a drug addiction, but don't
 like it when the person gets freed of the whole consumer addiction/wage
 serf value system enchilada.

  If someone rethinks the entire system from scratch..that could be
 dangerous.
  When role playing means nothing, what then, is the role of leader worth?
 Ken

 At 01:05 PM 8/30/02 -0500, you wrote:

 Ode Coyote wrote:

   Psylicybe [sp]  Cubensis ..the cow plops golden dollar..brain
 fertilizer.

  It wasn't just a tight muscle, it was an actual lump about the size of
a
  ping pong ball. Quite disturbingly large and getting bigger.
  Ken

 Could this have been a fatty tumor?  I have several of those.

 Jeannie

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CSMolecular weight/DMSO transport Attn Marshall

This is from the DMSO Pharmacology article I sent you off list.

This is probably where I noted the MW relevancy.

Perliman and Wolfe76 demonstrated that allergens of low molecular weight
such as penicillin G potassium, mixed in 90% DMSO, were readily carried
through intact human skin. Allergens having molecular weights of 3000 or
more dissolved in DMSO did not penetrate human skin in these studies. On the
other hand, Smith and Hegre101 had previously recorded that antibodies to
bovine serum albumin developed when a mixture of DMSO and bovine serum
albumin was applied to the skin of rabbits.

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Re: CSRE: Glad cow syndrome

2002-09-03 Thread M. G. Devour

Barb wrote (in reply to James):
 Thanks, any help would be greatly appreciated.

This thread is a good study in just why and how we allow some
off-topic content...

The Glad cow subject thread diverged from another, more on-topic one, 
when somebody started talking about ... err, mushrooms. Then it 
continued to veer towards various mind-altering aspects of said fungi, 
and further discussion of their identification and culture... 

Yet, along the way, Barb saw something that applied to a situation 
close to her... and got a useful lead that may help someone heal.

You never know.

James correctly continued to address Barb's questions even after I'd 
requested the recreational mushroom discussion migrate. Ultimately, 
that decision upholds the core value of a forum like this... helping.

Over here, I'm content if folks answer any reasonable health related
questions, while guiding the non-CS related discussions to the OT list
or private e-mail once basic information and a few pointers to other
resources have been provided.

You can *always* talk about mushrooms over on the Off Topic list, 
gents. grin 

To learn how to use the OT list, visit http://www.silverlist.org and 
click on the Off Topic List link.

Be well,

Mike D.

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CSRe: [Re: CSA lung disease -- suggestions?]

2002-09-03 Thread Henry

Hi, The DMSO I have is 99.9% pure. Is that the DMSO you are talking about when
you say mix it 90% CS to 10% DMSO?
Thank you, Hank

Jeannie jean...@ucinet.com wrote:

Jim Meissner wrote:

Dear Jeannie, could you please provide some more information about DMSO
dosages, warnings, effects, etc?

DMSO is another thing that has gotten a bad rap, and is really not toxic.
The
government came out and said that it could cause damage to the eyes. What
they
didn't tell you was that they gave the rats the equivalent of a person
drinking
a quart a day. At that point there seemed to be some damage to the eyes,
though
the rats didn't go blind, and the effect cannot be duplicated in other
animals.
So it probably wouldn't happen to you if you did drink a quart a day (heaven
forbid!).

The only usual side-effect is that if you use it too strong, it can irritate
the
skin. When I use it, I usually mix it with CS. For external use, I use it
at
50/50. This relieves my husbands arthritis when applied externally to the
painful joints.

When I use it simply to make the CS penetrate, I usually use it 90% CS to 10%
DMSO. I wouldn't breathe it any stronger than that, although I don't really
know if it would hurt you or not. We have also sometimes added a drop of two
of
tea tree oil to the nebulizer.

I have used the CS/DMSO solution (the weaker one) for ring worm and other
skin
problems with a great deal of success. I have reversed all kinds of
infections,
including abcesses, and blood poisoning by using this externally.

By the way, there is a story that one lady died from taking DMSO. She was in
Ireland, and was taking several other drugs. She took DMSO internally, got a
allergic reaction, but continued taking everything. Yes, it killed her. It
was
a really dumb thing to do.

For one thing, DMSO makes other drugs more effective, as it makes them
penetrate
more. Heaven only knows what she was allergic to, but you never keep on
taking
things if you get an allergic reaction. There is always somebody allergic to
anything, and allergies can be dangerous.

But these are the only problems that the government could dig up on DMSO.
Considering how dangerous many drugs are, DMSO is extremely safe. Many
people
take it internally for arthitis pain control. We have never done that, so I
have no experience with it.

Jeannie

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CSRe: CS/DMSO

2002-09-03 Thread OLMXR

In a message dated 9/3/2002 2:49:44 PM Central Daylight Time, 
jean...@ucinet.com writes:

 When I use it simply to make the CS penetrate, I usually use it 90% CS to 
 10%
 DMSO.  

Would adding the DMSO to the CS break down the Brain Barrier protection 
against CS?

Thom

Re: CSA lung disease -- suggestions?

2002-09-03 Thread Jack Dayton



 From: Jeannie jean...@ucinet.com
 Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 12:49:12 -0700
 
 The only usual side-effect is that if you use it (DMSO) too strong, it can
irritate 
 the  skin.  When I use it, I usually mix it with CS.  For external use, I use
it at
 50/50.  This relieves my husbands arthritis when applied externally to the
 painful joints.

Hi Jeannie, I have a few questions -
what form of  arthritis does your husband have?
Where do I buy some DMSO?

My wife has tried gluclosamine and chondroitan (SP) for
osteo arthritis with no results, I have convinced her to try
CS with DMSO. 

Jack

CScoral calcium and cs

2002-09-03 Thread mars larz


has anyone ever seen the informercial about coral calcium? they talk about the 
acids and alkaline and ph levels in our systems and how coral calcium works to 
balance them out i wonder if you could use this product while taking cs there 
are articles on the site by a scientist named Robert Barefoot. who speaks 
extensivly about the benefits of coral calcium as an antioxident that helps the 
immune system and even fights off cancer cells. i'm a newbie so if any of you 
veterans out their  in silverland have the time please look up Robert Barefoots 
name and the product information on coral calcium and post your results.

 


thank you


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CSneutralizing aloe??

Question from another list, for Marshall:

What is the ratio of Bicarb to aloe for making a CS gel?
How far in advance of combining this mixture to the CS
do you make it?

Thanks!
Connie

Re: CSRe: [Re: CSA lung disease -- suggestions?]

Henry wrote:

Hi, The DMSO I have is 99.9% pure. Is that the DMSO you are talking about when
you say mix it 90% CS to 10% DMSO?
Thank you, Hank

Yes. I mix that 9 parts of CS with 1 part of DMSO.

Jeannie

Jeannie jean...@ucinet.com> wrote:

Jim Meissner wrote:

>
> Dear Jeannie, could you please provide some more information about DMSO
> dosages, warnings, effects, etc?

Jeannie

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CSDMSO

Hank wrote:

Hi, The DMSO I have is 99.9% pure. Is that the DMSO you are talking
about when
you say mix it 90% CS to 10% DMSO?
Thank you, Hank

Yes.

Jeannie

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Re: CSRe: CS/DMSO



ol...@aol.com wrote:

 In a message dated 9/3/2002 2:49:44 PM Central Daylight Time,
 jean...@ucinet.com writes:


 When I use it simply to make the CS penetrate, I usually use it 90%
 CS to 10%
 DMSO.

 I don't know, but it certainly has caused no problems for us, and we
 have used it occasionally for years.

Jeannie



 Would adding the DMSO to the CS break down the Brain Barrier
 protection against CS?

 Thom

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Re: CSA lung disease -- suggestions?



Jack Dayton wrote:



  From: Jeannie jean...@ucinet.com
  Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 12:49:12 -0700
 
  The only usual side-effect is that if you use it (DMSO) too strong,
 it can irritate
  the  skin.  When I use it, I usually mix it with CS.  For external
 use, I use it at
  50/50.  This relieves my husbands arthritis when applied externally
 to the
  painful joints.

 Hi Jeannie, I have a few questions -
 what form of arthritis does your husband have?

I don't know.

 Where do I buy some DMSO?

We can get it at a hardware store.  It says, not to be used as
medicine, but it is the very same stuff, and works fine.

 My wife has tried gluclosamine and chondroitan (SP) for
 osteo arthritis with no results, I have convinced her to try
 CS with DMSO.

 Jack

My husband tried those things, and it didn't help him either.  Hope it
works for her.

Jeannie

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Re: CSOT: echinacea

2002-09-03 Thread Jack Dayton

 From: Connie wufn...@stargate.net
 Date: Mon, 02 Sep 2002 11:22:53 -0400
 Subject: CSOT: echinacea
Connie wrote:
 A couple of more years back, on one of my lists, (that being one of the
 problems), I read a paper with an alternative opinion on whether echinacea
 should be used on an on/off schedule (as is normally suggested).
 That piece was also saved on a system that is long gone.
 I have searched the couple lists I thougth it may be on but have not been
 able to locate it.
 Does anyone have reference to such an article?
 TIA
**
Hi Connie, yes it seems that it should be used  on an on / off schedule...
as you read. However the schedule varies with the supplier -

Suggested Use:... For best results, use 5-7 days and then discontinue
for 5-7 days. Continue this cycle.

Another source stated -  Limit use to 8 consecutive weeks.

Still another states- After taking echinacea for 6 to 8 weeks,
a 2 week break is recommended before restarting use for
best results.

CAUTION: Not intended for individuals with impaired
auto-immune conditions

Jack

But 3 or 4 other suppliers made on such dossage distinctions.

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CSMake Your Own Silver

2002-09-03 Thread jrowland

 Solid silver nitrate is still available as a wart stick...

http://www.microscopy-uk.org.uk/mag/artdec98/bdsilver.html


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CSRe: [Re: CSRe: [Re: CSA lung disease -- suggestions?]]

2002-09-03 Thread Henry

Thank you Jeannie. I wanted to be sure as there a lot of dif %s.
Hank

Jeannie jean...@ucinet.com wrote:
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Henry wrote:

Hi, The DMSO I have is 99.9% pure. Is that the DMSO you are talking
about when
you say mix it 90% CS to 10% DMSO?
Thank you, Hank

Yes. I mix that 9 parts of CS with 1 part of DMSO.

Jeannie

Jeannie jean...@ucinet.com wrote:

Jim Meissner wrote:

Dear Jeannie, could you please provide some more information about
DMSO
dosages, warnings, effects, etc?

DMSO is another thing that has gotten a bad rap, and is really not
toxic.
The
government came out and said that it could cause damage to the eyes.
What
they
didn't tell you was that they gave the rats the equivalent of a person
drinking
a quart a day. At that point there seemed to be some damage to the
eyes,
though
the rats didn't go blind, and the effect cannot be duplicated in other
animals.
So it probably wouldn't happen to you if you did drink a quart a day
(heaven
forbid!).

The only usual side-effect is that if you use it too strong, it can
irritate
the
skin. When I use it, I usually mix it with CS. For external use, I
use it
at
50/50. This relieves my husbands arthritis when applied externally to
the
painful joints.

When I use it simply to make the CS penetrate, I usually use it 90% CS
to 10%
DMSO. I wouldn't breathe it any stronger than that, although I don't
really
know if it would hurt you or not. We have also sometimes added a drop
of two
of
tea tree oil to the nebulizer.

I have used the CS/DMSO solution (the weaker one) for ring worm and
other
skin
problems with a great deal of success. I have reversed all kinds of
infections,
including abcesses, and blood poisoning by using this externally.

By the way, there is a story that one lady died from taking DMSO. She
was in
Ireland, and was taking several other drugs. She took DMSO
internally, got a
allergic reaction, but continued taking everything. Yes, it killed
her. It
was
a really dumb thing to do.

For one thing, DMSO makes other drugs more effective, as it makes them
penetrate
more. Heaven only knows what she was allergic to, but you never keep
on
taking
things if you get an allergic reaction. There is always somebody
allergic to
anything, and allergies can be dangerous.

But these are the only problems that the government could dig up on
DMSO.
Considering how dangerous many drugs are, DMSO is extremely safe.
Many
people
take it internally for arthitis pain control. We have never done
that, so I
have no experience with it.

Jeannie

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Oregon Coast

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CSCS and Grave's Disease

2002-09-03 Thread Sonja Buhlman

Does anyone have experience with CS and Grave's Disease? 

Thanks,

Sonja



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Re: CSMolecular weight/DMSO transport Attn Marshall

Then the implication could be that DMSO will actually carry CS particles of up
to about 30 atoms through the skin.  That would be about a 1 nm particles.  So
it looks like DMSO would likely work primarily with the ions.

Marshall

James Osbourne, Holmes wrote:

 This is from the DMSO Pharmacology article I sent you off list.

 This is probably where I noted the MW relevancy.

 Perliman and Wolfe76 demonstrated that allergens of low molecular weight
 such as penicillin G potassium, mixed in 90% DMSO, were readily carried
 through intact human skin. Allergens having molecular weights of 3000 or
 more dissolved in DMSO did not penetrate human skin in these studies. On the
 other hand, Smith and Hegre101 had previously recorded that antibodies to
 bovine serum albumin developed when a mixture of DMSO and bovine serum
 albumin was applied to the skin of rabbits.

 James-Osbourne: Holmes

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Re: CSneutralizing aloe??

It varies.  I use a swimming pool ph test kit and add the soda until the
ph is 7.  I pretty well mix them all at once.  There are some things in
aloe vera that can have an H or an OH tail, and if you add acid or
alkaline will switch tails (I may not be describing this quite right, I
read a paper on it quite some time ago). So what happens is that as you
add the soda, the ph increases quickly until it reaches 7, then you can
add quite a bit more before it starts increasing again. Thus you will
find that a fairly wide range of soda will give the same result in the
end of 7.

Marshall

Connie wrote:

 Question from another list, for Marshall:

 What is the ratio of Bicarb to aloe for making a CS gel?
 How far in advance of combining this mixture to the CS
 do you make it?

 Thanks!
 Connie

Re: CSneutralizing aloe??

Thank you Marshall!
Connie

From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 20:31:15 -0400
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSneutralizing aloe??
Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com
Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 17:38:07 -0700

It varies.  I use a swimming pool ph test kit and add the soda until the ph
is 7.  I pretty well mix them all at once.  There are some things in aloe
vera that can have an H or an OH tail, and if you add acid or alkaline will
switch tails (I may not be describing this quite right, I read a paper on it
quite some time ago). So what happens is that as you add the soda, the ph
increases quickly until it reaches 7, then you can add quite a bit more
before it starts increasing again. Thus you will find that a fairly wide
range of soda will give the same result in the end of 7.

Marshall

Re: CSFW: Cat Fancy article/treating FeLeuk with CS

What I did forget to state with the article posting, it is available in the
Oct. 2002 issue of Cat Fancy magazine.

The CS use was mentioned only in the preamble to the article. The full
article goes on to explain FeLV, diagnosis, prevention, attitudes and
treatments.


As it stated in the article, the experiment ''started in May, could take
eight months or more to yield conclusions, if any.''

I am trying to locate info to contact the Reinstedlers. A couple searches
today came up with a phone number, but not sure it is the correct Ron
Reinstedler. An attempted call was unsuccessful.

Otherwise, I have had no luck in rounding up an email addy for them.

If anyone else has any ideas on how to find an email addy for them, please,
let me know.
I tried the obvious yahoo searches, google searches, etc.

Ron and Debbie Reinstedler
Louisville, KY

Perhaps if the author of the article responds to my inquiry he will also
have contact info for the couple.

Connie


From: Barbara Liles ba...@netease.net
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 08:00:47 -0500
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSFW: Cat Fancy article/treating FeLeuk with CS
Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com
Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 18:00:23 -0700


Connie,
 
Did I miss something?  How did the cats on CS do?
- Original Message -
From: Connie mailto:wufn...@stargate.net
To: silver- list mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 12:45 PM
Subject: CSFW: Cat Fancy article/treating FeLeuk with CS



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Here is the preamble to the Cat Fancy Article:

Positive Outlook, Positive Environment

Veterinariana find cats with the leukemia virus can enjoy life? By Steve
Friess

Most people try to avoid FeLV positive cats. However, Ron and Debbie
Reinstedler will drive hundreds of miles to adopt them.
The Louisville, Ky., couple rescued a pair of stray kittens found by friends
in 2000 and soon discovered both cats contracted FeLV. To protect their
FeLV-negative cats, the couple converted the apartment above their printing
business into an FeLV-positive cat haven. Another friend then told them of
six other FeLV-positive kittens at a shelter in Indiana, and a colony
started to develop.
Today, the Reinstedlers usually host approximately 50 FeLV-positive cats
ranging in age from four months to 12 years old, some  believed to have
lived with FeLV for 10 years. On one occasion, they drove to St. Louis to
meet someone from Topeka Kan., who wanted to turn over FeLV-positive cats
and contacted tham via the Internet.
The Reinstedlers turned their veritable cattery into an unofficial
laboratory, splitting the animals into three groups and administering
different treatments to observe any difference in outcomes. All receive
Interferon alpha in the common week-on, week-off schedule, but one set also
takes the antibiotic Baytril and another third take the liquid colloidal
silver, a homeopathic remedy. The experiement, that started in May, could
take eight months or more to yield conclusions, if any.
While the effort is expensive---the Reinstedlers sometimes spend as much as
$650 a month in veterinary bills---they believe it to be worthwhile.
''They all deserve a chance to live,'' says Ron Reinstedler, 58. ''Many
people, as soon as they find a cat is FeLV-positive, they want to put it
down.
Why? They can live good lives for six months, a year, 18 months and
sometimes much longer. They deserve the same as everyone else does.''

Steve Friess is a free-lance writer in Reno, Nev., whose contributions have
appeared in The New York Times, U.S. News and World Report and Dog Fancy.

Re: CSOT: echinacea

Thanks for that info Jack, but what I was looking for is an article that
states contradictory info to this.
I had read an article through the internet at least a couple years back that
stated there is no need to use echinacea in an off/on schedule.
The only point I can remember specifically is that the native americans used
it routinely.
Connie
 **
 Hi Connie, yes it seems that it should be used  on an on / off schedule...
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Re: CSMicroscopy SITE

2002-09-03 Thread Jonathan B. Britten

Hi, Wayne, 

I wish I knew more to tell you,  but the best I can say is that you
might look into Naessen's dark field microscopy if you want to look at
living organisims.   This seems to be a kind of advancement on Rife's
work.  It also invovles resonance actions,  as did Rife's work.   

If you have any success, please let us know!   Good luck. 

JBB



Wayne Fugitt wrote:
 
 Morning JBB,
 
 The-Scientist.com is a wonderful, free online science publication.   I
 love it.
 used to look at CS.  Presumably it would be useful only for particulate
 as oppoosed to ionic CS?
 
I checked out the site.  Nice indeed.
 
I have never thought of looking at CS with my microscope. The max power
 I have is 1000.
 
 My microscope has a digital camera built in, so if I could see anything, I
 could post a picture.
 
 Likely some particles will be visible.
 
 Do you know of any other sites that would be of value for a beginner trying
 to learn how to use microscopes?I need more information on slide
 preparation.  I am primarily interested in
 blood cells and fungus on plants.
 
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Re: CSJon saved my life

2002-09-03 Thread Tom Mary McFadden

Ronwilson:   Check your clock battery in your PC, your silver list e-mail
came to me showing Febuarys date.

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From: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Sunday, February 03, 2002 4:25:31 PM
To: CS
Subject: CSJon saved my life

Came on this list because old doc Jon was pushing CS and his 6 volt
generator. Bad heart and research had produced info. that low level
infections could start the build up in veins. CS seamed ideal answer.
Was to late, had really bad attack, had hours to live, had 4 veins replaced
in bypass. Died 2 times in week after, right place as they kick started the
old heart in short order. Pushing on my chest getting it going they cut my
breast bone to pieces. It was wired together in operation with wires that
cut it. Opened me up again to repair and could not, have no breast bone.
They installed my very own kike starter in my chest for next time heart goes
on holday. In keeping with Murphys law got staff infection in cut ankle to
groin for replacement vein. Cure was as bad as infection, only one antibotic
available and it eats veins.

Two months latter got out of hospital and nursing homes. Heart was in bad
shape, left side enlarged and only pushing 16% of blood out. Lungs badly
congested, could not lay down to sleep, feet and legs badly swelled, cut in
left leg would not heal, could not walk100 feet. Attention span and short
term memory a joke. Heart doctor laid it on the line, needed new heart but
was to old to get one. Too much damage. Time was in weeks at most, get my
affairs in order. Wife and I left office with all the standard expensive
goodies with (it may help some). Still had two sons 14 and 15 at home not
ready for the world yet. Not ready to go and did not have any feeling of
dieing just yet, only 70, roses not yet smelled.

Researching med line the doctor was right, standard medicen had no answers.
No question I needed another treatment plan. Searching the web for a couple
of weeks with no answers, On Jon's list and he posts my answer. Didn't need
to look he had it. Another doctor gave it to him and he shared. Needed to
pop some pills available every place across the counter. First week felt
better and each week their after. Could lay down to sleep in a month, leg
swelling went down. Was not coughing up nearly as much. Two months wife and
I drove from Phoenix to Cleveland Ohio and some places in Pa, and back. No
problem. That was year ago.

Tried to share answer with my doctor, he shut me up, Said he doesn't deal
with any thing out side standard medicen. Haven't taken any of his medicen
in many months, saved hundreds of dollars, and many negative effects of
them. Seem this information has been around for long time, used in Europe
and Japan and by some dotors else ware, a few in the states. Many heart
transplants are un-necessary and a real benefit to congestive heart
problems. Countless lives could have been extended with this simple
inexpensive answer. Seem only about 17% of people by study have enough in
their system. Blamed on modern diet, low grade food and anti cholesterol
medicen. Its starting to be known out side standard medicen. Has a
cancer-fighting effect along with better engery. Important to good health
and prevention of heart problems.

I am not the only one to make recovery, others just as bad have did the
same. Few families have not been affected with heart problems, If not you're
self, loved ones and friends. One may never have heart problems with its
use. Your doctor probably doesn't even know about it, which in my mind is
bordering on criminal. No secret, a web search will find tons of info..
Heart medications cost hundreds a month and can and do cause damage.
Researching mine was scary. A common, non-toxic over the counter, well
researched for years repair and possible cure being ignored is unbelievable.
Does produce questions. One would think (what works) is what we pay them for
when we place trust of health and life in their hands.

Have been holding my own for 14 years against bladder cancer and have
learned the value of the web, state of the art information is to be found
for the search. Taking charge of ones own life is a necessity .Jon may march
to a different drumbeat but I believe he's one of the good guys. This is the
information from him that saved my life.

http://faculty.washington.edu/ely/coenzq10.html

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Re: CSparticle size distribution analyser

2002-09-03 Thread SilverList

  The PL-PSDA particle size distribution analyser is an integrated,
 
  automated system for the rapid determination of particle size
distribution
 
  of colloidal dispersions...in ten minutes
 
 http://www.polymerlabs.com/partsize/
 jr

Sounds good, but it only measures down to 5 nm.  That is to high for my
generator.

Keith Pittman


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Re: CSA lung disease -- suggestions?

2002-09-03 Thread Jim Meissner

The ozone generator is air based.  It is intended for a fish tank.  The  air
pump feeds the ozone generator and you stick the hose into the ear or under
the tongue.

Juergen P. (Jim) Meissner
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Read about the benefits of the Brain State Synchronizer sounds for improving
your life and health.


- Original Message -
From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: CSA lung disease -- suggestions?


 Jim Meissner wrote:

  Then we tried bubbling ozone in the ears and
  under the tongue.

 Can you explain? Do you mean you put water in the ear, then bubbled ozone
in it
 through a tube in the ear?

 Marshall


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Re: CSA lung disease -- suggestions?

2002-09-03 Thread Jim Meissner

Thank you Jeannie.  I have some 99.9% DMSO but I was afraid to use it based
on some of the negative information that I heard about it.  Thanks for the
positive and negative information.  I will try it.

Thanks.

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- Original Message -
From: Jeannie jean...@ucinet.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: CSA lung disease -- suggestions?




 Jim Meissner wrote:

 
  Dear Jeannie, could you please provide some more information about DMSO
  dosages, warnings, effects, etc?

 DMSO is another thing that has gotten a bad rap, and is really not toxic.
The
 government came out and said that it could cause damage to the eyes.  What
they
 didn't tell you was that they gave the rats the equivalent of a person
drinking
 a quart a day.  At that point there seemed to be some damage to the eyes,
though
 the rats didn't go blind, and the effect cannot be duplicated in other
animals.
 So it probably wouldn't happen to you if you did drink a quart a day
(heaven
 forbid!).

 The only usual side-effect is that if you use it too strong, it can
irritate the
 skin.  When I use it, I usually mix it with CS.  For external use, I use
it at
 50/50.  This relieves my husbands arthritis when applied externally to the
 painful joints.

 When I use it simply to make the CS penetrate, I usually use it 90% CS to
10%
 DMSO.  I wouldn't breathe it any stronger than that, although I don't
really
 know if it would hurt you or not.  We have also sometimes added a drop of
two of
 tea tree oil to the nebulizer.

 I have used the CS/DMSO solution (the weaker one) for ring worm and other
skin
 problems with a great deal of success.  I have reversed all kinds of
infections,
 including abcesses, and blood poisoning by using this externally.

 By the way, there is a story that one lady died from taking DMSO.  She was
in
 Ireland, and was taking several other drugs.  She took DMSO internally,
got a
 allergic reaction, but continued taking everything.  Yes, it killed her.
It was
 a really dumb thing to do.

 For one thing, DMSO makes other drugs more effective, as it makes them
penetrate
 more.  Heaven only knows what she was allergic to, but you never keep on
taking
 things if you get an allergic reaction.  There is always somebody allergic
to
 anything, and allergies can be dangerous.

 But these are the only problems that the government could dig up on DMSO.
 Considering how dangerous many drugs are, DMSO is extremely safe.  Many
people
 take it internally for arthitis pain control.  We have never done that, so
I
 have no experience with it.

 Jeannie


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 We lie the loudest when we lie to ourselves.



 Jeannie McReynolds
 Oregon Coast




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CSRe: CS-DMSO

2002-09-03 Thread Gaston


Jeannie,

In one of your messages you wrote :

--
For external use, I use it at 50/50.  This relieves my husbands arthritis 
when applied externally to the painful joints...
--

I read the comments from James concerning the cleaning of the area prior of 
doing this.

I have applied a solution of 90% CS and 10% pure DMSO, once only, to my hip and 
the
way that I have done it:  was to soak the center of a sterile bandage in the 
solution and left
it on all night. When I removed the bandage the next morning the area was red 
and
swollen. It stayed like this for a few days before it cleared... I presume that 
this is 
not the correct way to apply the solution.  (only 10% DMSO used)

I would like to try a solution, 50% CS and 50% pure DMSO for my wife as well 
for arthritis, and would appreciate your suggestions to the following questions:

1.- How do you apply the solution  pls ?  with a spray or pour it on bandages ?
 If you spray it, it may not stay at the same place unless the person lays
 and does not move...

2.- Do you rub it on the skin with your fingers ? If so how long ?

3.- How long do you leave the solution on pls ? minutes, hours, all nite ?

4.- Do you clean the area where you put the solution after a certain period of 
time or if
 you just let it dry on ?  (if you apply the solution only for a few 
minutes...)

5.- How many times a day do you apply this solution ?

Any other info for the application of the solution would be much appreciated.

Gaston




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Re: CSneutralizing aloe??

2002-09-03 Thread Russ Rosser

A naive question from a bachelor:  Can baking soda fully dissolve, or does it 
always remain gritty?

--Russ
  - Original Message - 
  From: Marshall Dudley 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 7:31 PM
  Subject: Re: CSneutralizing aloe??

  It varies.  I use a swimming pool ph test kit and add the soda until the ph 
is 7.  I pretty well mix them all at once.  There are some things in aloe vera 
that can have an H or an OH tail, and if you add acid or alkaline will switch 
tails (I may not be describing this quite right, I read a paper on it quite 
some time ago). So what happens is that as you add the soda, the ph increases 
quickly until it reaches 7, then you can add quite a bit more before it starts 
increasing again. Thus you will find that a fairly wide range of soda will give 
the same result in the end of 7. 
  Marshall 

  Connie wrote: 

Question from another list, for Marshall: 
What is the ratio of Bicarb to aloe for making a CS gel? 
How far in advance of combining this mixture to the CS 
do you make it? 

Thanks! 
Connie

Re: CSFW: Cat Fancy article/treating FeLeuk with CS

FW: Cat Fancy article/treating FeLeuk with CSConnie,

Did I miss something?  How did the cats on CS do?
  - Original Message - 
  From: Connie 
  To: silver- list 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 12:45 PM
  Subject: CSFW: Cat Fancy article/treating FeLeuk with CS

  --

  Here is the preamble to the Cat Fancy Article:

  Positive Outlook, Positive Environment

  Veterinariana find cats with the leukemia virus can enjoy life? By Steve 
Friess

  Most people try to avoid FeLV positive cats. However, Ron and Debbie 
Reinstedler will drive hundreds of miles to adopt them. 
  The Louisville, Ky., couple rescued a pair of stray kittens found by friends 
in 2000 and soon discovered both cats contracted FeLV. To protect their 
FeLV-negative cats, the couple converted the apartment above their printing 
business into an FeLV-positive cat haven. Another friend then told them of six 
other FeLV-positive kittens at a shelter in Indiana, and a colony started to 
develop.
  Today, the Reinstedlers usually host approximately 50 FeLV-positive cats 
ranging in age from four months to 12 years old, some  believed to have lived 
with FeLV for 10 years. On one occasion, they drove to St. Louis to meet 
someone from Topeka Kan., who wanted to turn over FeLV-positive cats and 
contacted tham via the Internet.
  The Reinstedlers turned their veritable cattery into an unofficial 
laboratory, splitting the animals into three groups and administering different 
treatments to observe any difference in outcomes. All receive Interferon alpha 
in the common week-on, week-off schedule, but one set also takes the antibiotic 
Baytril and another third take the liquid colloidal silver, a homeopathic 
remedy. The experiement, that started in May, could take eight months or more 
to yield conclusions, if any.
  While the effort is expensive---the Reinstedlers sometimes spend as much as 
$650 a month in veterinary bills---they believe it to be worthwhile.
  ''They all deserve a chance to live,'' says Ron Reinstedler, 58. ''Many 
people, as soon as they find a cat is FeLV-positive, they want to put it down.
  Why? They can live good lives for six months, a year, 18 months and sometimes 
much longer. They deserve the same as everyone else does.''

  Steve Friess is a free-lance writer in Reno, Nev., whose contributions have 
appeared in The New York Times, U.S. News and World Report and Dog Fancy.

Re: CSRE: Glad cow syndrome