CSWater purification

2003-12-01 Thread BioSil
Re: Cataracts  CS/DMSODear List,

Does anyone have documented (if possible) information regarding Mexico's (and 
any other?) use of silver in its municipal water?

Many thanks
Yvonne :)

Re: CSWater purification

2003-12-01 Thread Ed Haskins
Re: Cataracts  CS/DMSOThese two are a good start

http://www.silverinstitute.org/news/5b01.html

http://www.silverinstitute.org/news/2f1999.html


  - Original Message - 
  From: BioSil 
  Does anyone have documented (if possible) information regarding Mexico's (and 
any other?) use of silver in its municipal water?
  Yvonne :)

CSFalse tyndal effect?

2003-12-01 Thread Matthew McCann PE
John,

Thanks for the reference to the
Hach Manual.

I had used the formulas of Lord
Rayleigh, which are only the
first step in the analysis and
over a century old now.
Rayleigh's equations sufficed
to explain the behavior of light in
aerosols  well enough to design
successful tyndallometry in
WWI gas warfare countermeasures.

Matthew

CSFW: Volt Ohm Meters

2003-12-01 Thread Medwith, Robert
Just another reminder, I am back at the Grind
Thanks for posting while I was off.
 
Bob
 
-Original Message-
From: sickleave48...@aol.com [mailto:sickleave48...@aol.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 9:59 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Cc: medwi...@tacom.army.mil
Subject: Volt Ohm Meters


I am at home not from my usual adress of medwi...@tacom.army.mil
If you could post this
Harbor Freight Stores (if you or a friend live near one in the USA) have 
Volt Ohm Meters on sale for $3.99 (I just got my cirular today)
Sale good till Dec 24
I will not be back to work computer till Monday

SICK LEAVE  (Boat Name)




Re: CSWalgreens Vaporizor!

2003-12-01 Thread Jim Meissner
Dear Walt:

I have found that you MUST remove the CS from the ultrasonic vaporizer right
after you use it and rinse with plain water.  You may even have to scrub the
transducer lightly with a cotton swab.  If you do not do this, the CS will
deposit on the transducer and it will not work the next time you try to use
it.  When I store the CS after using it in the ultrasonic vaporizer, I run
it through the coffee filter to catch the debris that was created in the
process.  I think the black stuff is silver coming out of suspension.  The
CS that I use is mostly ionic and therefor I see very little silver
deposists.

I have used this very successfully for many years in clearing up sinus,
throat, and bronchial irritations.

- Original Message - 
From: walt kort...@skybest.com
To: Silver-list Silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2003 10:37 AM
Subject: CSWalgreens Vaporizor!


 Hi Folks: Got the Walgreens Vaporizer, had to make two pints of CS to hit
 level of CS that activates the metal electric prob to the Sonic Speaker to
 make mist. It sat around acouple days after tryng the mist in my lungs
etc.

 Showing the unit somedays later when I opened the top and looked in, there
 was 2/16 inch clumps of black (?) particles on the base of the plastic
 holding CS fluid, maybe twelve total. I stopped using it hoping someone
here
 had a answer to what that black chunky stuff was, and how it got there?

 Anyone else using this Vaporizer have this occur?

 Comments.

 Walt



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Re: CSWas: MSM high TSH-thyroid/Is: Wilson's Syndrome

2003-12-01 Thread Nenah Sylver

- Original Message - 
From: silversurfer1952 . silversurfer1...@hotmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2003 11:45 PM
Subject: Re: CSCS - MSM high TSH-thyroid stimulating hormone


 ...Severe hypothyroidism must be treated by a physician (usually with a
 prescription for thyroid hormone), and I strongly recommend that you insist
 on natural thyroid replacement. Whereas synthetic hormone preparations such
 as Synthroid contain only the thyroid hormone T4, the natural desiccated
 porcine thyroid (which more closely resembles our own thyroid hormones)
 contains not only T4 and T3 but other factors that we have yet to
 understand. In my practice, when a patient has symptoms consistent with low
 thyroid function, I start him or her on a six-week therapeutic trial of
 desiccated thyroid, regardless of what the blood test shows. I use one-half
 to one grain of natural thyroid. I carefully monitor the patient's mental
 and physical status and, if indicated, increase the dosage by one-half
 grain. I use blood tests to ensure that TSH levels are not too high.

 This echoes what I have read elsewhere on the subject (in books and on the
 internet)... that it is better to use natural thyroid...(Thyroid in
 Canada, by Parke-Davis, Armour Thyroid in US)...


In addition, it appears that in many people who are diagnosed as hypothyroid,
the thyroid gland is actually producing enough T4. The real problem is that the
body is not successfully converting that T4 into T3. It is T3 that is absorbed
and utilized by the tissues, not T4; so blood tests that show enough T4
circulating throughout the bloodstream do not necessarily indicate anything
about the person's real condition.

I strongly suggest you review http://www.wilsonssyndrome.com/ to get a complete
picture of thyroid function.

Best,
Nenah

Nenah Sylver, Ph.D.
Products, services, and information about health
Author, *The Handbook of Rife Frequency Healing*
Order the book and read excerpts at
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Re: CSWalgreens Vaporizor!

2003-12-01 Thread Ode Coyote
  If there's a cycle that allows ionic silver to dry on the parts..or if
you ever run it dry, it will oxidize and make black stuff.
 It's harmless and pretty much inert but can be hard to clean up.
 The particles won't form oxides.
Ode

At 02:54 PM 11/30/2003 -0600, you wrote:
On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 10:37:58 -0500, walt kort...@skybest.com wrote:

Hi Folks: Got the Walgreens Vaporizer, had to make two pints of CS to hit
level of CS that activates the metal electric prob to the Sonic Speaker to
make mist. It sat around acouple days after tryng the mist in my lungs etc.

Showing the unit somedays later when I opened the top and looked in, there
was 2/16 inch clumps of black (?) particles on the base of the plastic
holding CS fluid, maybe twelve total. I stopped using it hoping someone here
had a answer to what that black chunky stuff was, and how it got there?

What are you using to make the CS??

It sounds like you've got a lot of particles in your CS, instead of it
being mostly ionic.  Ionic silver won't put much black stuff in the
bottom.

(The black stuff is most likely silver sulphide, but could be silver
oxide.)

-- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF


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CSFalse Tyndall effect?

2003-12-01 Thread Matthew McCann PE
Hi, Members of the List!

I did a simple experiment
towards putting the Tyndall
effect on a more quantitative
basis. I put equal amounts
of CS in two test tubes, then
put an equal amount of DW
in one of the test tubes and
stirred it thoroughly.

The two test tubes were placed
side by side in a glass beaker
and enough DW was added to
the beaker to overcome most
of the refraction due to the
curved surfaces of the test
tubes. Then I shined a laser
pointer through test tubes at
the same time, and in both
directions.
 
The result was a Tyndall effect
diminution in the diluted sample
that was just barely noticeable.

I attribute this to the Weber-Fechner
law, which says that physiological
response varies as the logarithm
of the intensity of the stimulus, not
as the intensity itself. If this is the
case, naked-eye observations may
be quite as useful as photometry
readings. Incidentally, the
Weber-Fechner law is also the
basis of observation of stellar
magnitudes that were started by
the ancient Greeks but remain
useful to this day.

Matthew

RE: CSWas: MSM high TSH-thyroid/Is: Wilson's Syndrome

2003-12-01 Thread Richard Harris
Hi Dr. Nenah,
Thanks for your informative letter. I'm sure this will encourage many who
have suffered from these symptoms for years, been treated unsuccessfully by
many doctors who are married to the allopathic school. As I read Dr.
Wilson's site, several long-time customers came to mind  I hope I can get
in touch with them soon.
Sincerely,
Richard Harris, 56 yr FL Pharmacist

-Original Message-
From: Gaston [mailto:obouc...@colba.net]
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 11:29 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSWas: MSM high TSH-thyroid/Is: Wilson's Syndrome


Thanks Nenah.

My T4 was good on the last two blood tests, when my TSH level
had a high reading.

I will go to the address that you have provided to have a better
picture of thyroid function.

Gaston
===
- Original Message -
From: Nenah Sylver ne...@bestweb.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 9:08 AM
Subject: Re: CSWas: MSM high TSH-thyroid/Is: Wilson's Syndrome



 In addition, it appears that in many people who are diagnosed as
hypothyroid,
 the thyroid gland is actually producing enough T4. The real problem is
that the
 body is not successfully converting that T4 into T3. It is T3 that is
absorbed
 and utilized by the tissues, not T4; so blood tests that show enough T4
 circulating throughout the bloodstream do not necessarily indicate
anything
 about the person's real condition.

 I strongly suggest you review http://www.wilsonssyndrome.com/ to get a
complete
 picture of thyroid function.

 Best,
 Nenah

 Nenah Sylver, Ph.D.
 Products, services, and information about health
 Author, *The Handbook of Rife Frequency Healing*
 Order the book and read excerpts at
 http://www.nenahsylver.com/


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RE: CSFalse Tyndall effect?

2003-12-01 Thread Richard Harris
Many thanks, Matthew,

Your test  report reaffirms what I had long believed re: Tyndall effect 
Clear CS and the positive results that users of my CS have shared in
effectiveness.

Quite often I enjoy messsages sent in, but sometimes they are way above my
head as a seeker of additional CS info so I can share with others.

If I can be of help, let me know.
Sincerely,
Richard Harris, 56 yr FL Pharmacist
  -Original Message-
  From: Matthew McCann PE [mailto:mmcc...@franciscan.edu]
  Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 10:58 AM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: CSFalse Tyndall effect?


  Hi, Members of the List!

  I did a simple experiment
  towards putting the Tyndall
  effect on a more quantitative
  basis. I put equal amounts
  of CS in two test tubes, then
  put an equal amount of DW
  in one of the test tubes and
  stirred it thoroughly.

  The two test tubes were placed
  side by side in a glass beaker
  and enough DW was added to
  the beaker to overcome most
  of the refraction due to the
  curved surfaces of the test
  tubes. Then I shined a laser
  pointer through test tubes at
  the same time, and in both
  directions.

  The result was a Tyndall effect
  diminution in the diluted sample
  that was just barely noticeable.

  I attribute this to the Weber-Fechner
  law, which says that physiological
  response varies as the logarithm
  of the intensity of the stimulus, not
  as the intensity itself. If this is the
  case, naked-eye observations may
  be quite as useful as photometry
  readings. Incidentally, the
  Weber-Fechner law is also the
  basis of observation of stellar
  magnitudes that were started by
  the ancient Greeks but remain
  useful to this day.

  Matthew


Re: CSWas: MSM high TSH-thyroid/Is: Wilson's Syndrome

2003-12-01 Thread Gaston
Thanks Nenah.

My T4 was good on the last two blood tests, when my TSH level
had a high reading.

I will go to the address that you have provided to have a better
picture of thyroid function.

Gaston
===
- Original Message - 
From: Nenah Sylver ne...@bestweb.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 9:08 AM
Subject: Re: CSWas: MSM high TSH-thyroid/Is: Wilson's Syndrome


 
 In addition, it appears that in many people who are diagnosed as hypothyroid,
 the thyroid gland is actually producing enough T4. The real problem is that 
 the
 body is not successfully converting that T4 into T3. It is T3 that is absorbed
 and utilized by the tissues, not T4; so blood tests that show enough T4
 circulating throughout the bloodstream do not necessarily indicate anything
 about the person's real condition.
 
 I strongly suggest you review http://www.wilsonssyndrome.com/ to get a 
 complete
 picture of thyroid function.
 
 Best,
 Nenah
 
 Nenah Sylver, Ph.D.
 Products, services, and information about health
 Author, *The Handbook of Rife Frequency Healing*
 Order the book and read excerpts at
 http://www.nenahsylver.com/
 
 
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CSTest Results

2003-12-01 Thread Ode Coyote
OK Folks
 Here it is from Frank Key, unabridged in bold [ouch] print as promised in
the light of operating truthfully to the best of my knowlege
 [That's the kicker]
 These results were obtained using the lastest version of the series 2
silverpuppy generator [gtsb1] to run batches.
 I have no idea how they apply to previous versions except that they are
set to shut down at nearly the same conductivity and voltage references
within .06 volts and 100 ohms.
 Other phenomenen I've never seen before seem to be happening with the B1
having to do with abnormally high [but repeatable] conductivity drops in
storage along with the lack of a corresponding visible TE development.



Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 11:16:27 -0500
To: Frank Key fr...@colloidalsciencelab.com
From: Ode Coyote coyote...@earthlink.net
Subject: Re: Test Results
In-Reply-To: 001501c3b784$84740d30$1001a...@pent424k

 My reply to Frank Key:

 Your uS readings are very close to my re-calibrated PWT [ie, PWT is
working properly]

 Here's what I recorded. [Experiment run to show heat effects on PWT
readings showed about +1 uS change per +10 deg F. as 'worst case average']

Batch #122uS at finish @ 91.1 deg F  
  11.1 uS in 8 days  
   Very faint TE with little change during stabilization period [an
unexpected occurance seeing the amount of conductivity
drop...possiblymostly very very small particles not into red laser
range of visibility? Super-conductive unstable ions] [This is an
unusually high drop in conductivity leading to some speculation that the B1
version is doing something different than previous versions..the usual is
about 4 uS not 11 and with the development of a pretty strong TE which
didn't happen with the B1]

What I figured using Trems uS x 1.2 fudge factor...[silver making
process is virtually identical except for temperature]
 At first, [I supposed] virtually all content is ionic, later, forming
most of the non conductive particles which accounts for conductivity drop
over time.
 So, I used the initial conductivity at finish to do the calculations.
22uS - .8 uS [initial water conductivity] - 3 uS [for 30 deg max heat soak
effect]= 18.2 uS x 1.2 [fudge factor] = 21.84 PPM

 Apparently this is in error even though ion to particle 'ratios' look
about right.
 Any idea why?

 Batch #2
 20.5 uS [at finish @ 94.9 deg F] - .8uS [water] -3 uS [heat] = 16.7 uS x
1.2 [fudge factor]= 20.04 PPM
 Stabilized for 8 days at 12.8 uS

Batches #1 + #2 averaged;
21.5 uS - .8 uS - 3 uS = 17.45 uS x 1.2 = 20.94 PPM

 But I see that the average 'stabilized' PWT reading is the more accurate.
 Average = 11.95 uS [x 1.2 should be 14.34 PPM]

 But it's not.
 Any idea why?
 
You say:
12.6 uS
 If I subtract .8 uS for the water, I get 11.8 uS...pretty close to the
11.29 total PPM you came up with and accounts for why PPM is a little lower
than conductivity. [That which was adding to the conductivity of the water
wasn't silver]

 There's something going on that I don't understand...like maybe
relationships of conductivity to PPM aren't the least bit reliable?
 I've got the sinking feeling that every batch is going to be different
[except that these were virtually the same]...or a PWT is totally useless
where PPM is concerned.
 So much for standard fudge factors too. [No reflection on you, Trem..it
just didn't work for me.]

  I'm getting a distinct taste of crow pie...and even the feathers aren't
black like would be expected.
 So be it.

..now to get busy.

 PS  Thanks a bunch in advance for the particle size distribution plots.

Ode





At 03:57 PM 11/30/2003 -0500, you wrote:
Ode,

Here are the test results for your samples from the ICP/AES.


 These batches [#1+#2] were run totally plug n play / absolute neglect in a
beaker and added together to form an average, .

SampleTotal SilverIonic Silver% Ionic
Conductivity
   #ppmppm
(uS/cm)

1-2 11.29 9.6885.7
12.6

 This batch was totally plug n play/ absolute neglect in a pint canning jar
allowed to sit for 8 days in clear glass. It could have used a stir/reset
sequence.
 My record:
Off at 17 uS @92.2 deg F dropping to 8.5 uS in 8 days.

 The result:
 3 9.25 9.1298.6
8.5



ICP/AES Measurements:

1. Each measured value was an average of three individual measurements. Each
individual measurement was taken from three replicates of 10 seconds each.
Total integration time per measured value (3 x 3 x 10 seconds) is 90
seconds.

2. Measured made using the silver emission spectral line at 328.068 nm

3. Calibration: blank ( 0.00 ppm) and 10.00 ppm - linear from 0 - 30.00 ppm
(minimum)

3A. Measurement error (95% confidence) is less than: 0.05 ppm

4. Particles were removed from samples by application of 365,000 G-forces
for 15 minutes.


Particles size distribution plots will be done in the next few days and the
.pdf files will be emailed to you.



Re: CSWhy the yellow CS - an hypothesis

2003-12-01 Thread Ode Coyote
 I'd use PETE plastic, like soda bottles if glass can't be used.
Ode

At 06:30 PM 11/30/2003 EST, you wrote: 

 Would it put it be correct to say that ionic silver can react with plastic containers? I've been using HDPE plastic  bottles from specialtybottle.com  to store the cs from my Silver Puppy gen. and sometimes I can taste the plastic. I wonder if I'm ingesting silver reacting with plastic in some way?
Thanks
Steve 




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CSPneumonia

2003-12-01 Thread Gladys Williams
Dear Wise Ones--First, Happy Holidays
and love to all!Question:  I sent my 
friend some CS about six months ago, she 
of course didn't use it.  Now her son has
pneumonia.  They have him on steroids
that are administered via a nebulizer.
I told her to put the CS in the nebulizer.
Does anyone know the dosage?  How many
times?  Will there be any adverse reaction
with the steroids?  And do you use the
CS full strength (its about 15PPM)?

Gladys


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Re: CSAntibiotics and cs?

2003-12-01 Thread Ode Coyote
 Cool Mist 
I think that's the one I looked at and almost bought...right before I saw that it had a heating element in  it.
Ode

At 11:37 PM 11/30/2003 -0600, you wrote: 

I'm not sure if the cool mist is what you want.  You want one that says ionizer.
Nancy
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From: mailto:h...@arkansas.net>Hank 
To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com>silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Friday, November 28, 2003 12:24 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Antibiotics and cs?


I just went to wal-mart and bought a Cool mist Humidifier, I am going to put 20PPM CS in it and run it. I don't know if it will do anything but hay it is something to do. and I do hope it kills something, I don't care what. Goodnight all. hope you had a good day and lots of turkey. 
 
Sincerely Yours,
Hank
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From: mailto:nancym...@prodigy.net>Nancy DeLise 
To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com>silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Friday, November 28, 2003 12:19 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Antibiotics and cs?


CS does not destroy antibiotics, it destroys bacteria, fungus,  and virsus.
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To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com>silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 12:34 AM
Subject: CS>Antibiotics and cs?


Does cs destroy antibiotics ? Some folks I have given cs to have asked this question.
Thanks
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CS[List Owner] Spam blocking software...

2003-12-01 Thread M. G. Devour
Greetings folks,

I've started to see messages bouncing to me from people who are using 
something called QuikCop. The program requires people who want to send 
the user a message to reply to a message sent by the program to confirm 
the mail is coming from a real person rather than a virus or spammer.

This is a general warning:  If you want to set up one of these type of 
filters you *must* learn how to whitelist the addresses of any mailing 
lists you are on. The responsibility for this is *YOURS*.

Most list owners will not respond to these inquiries, and will in fact 
either ignore you or boot you from their lists. They usually have too 
big of a workload already without adding this.

At this time I am not responding to these messages. I will re-evaluate 
this stance as conditions change.

Be well,

Mike Devour
silver-list owner

[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
[mdev...@eskimo.com]
[Speaking only for myself...   ]


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CSRemarks on or experience with CS and/or CS generators from www.health2us.com

2003-12-01 Thread filip . hoeven
Hi,

Has anyone any remarks or experience (both positive
as well as negative are welcome) about the:
* CS
* CS generators
from http://www.health2us.com/

A couple of days ago, someone posted a message
about having good results with treating a chronic 
sinusitus using pre-made CS from this website.

I am thinking about buying some CS from there...

Regards,
Filip


Re: CSWhy the yellow CS - an hypothesis

2003-12-01 Thread Marshall Dudley
HDPE should have not taste, it should not be solubile at all. For some
unknown reason, some bottle manufacturers want to add plastercizer to
HDPE, which is totally unnecessary, since HDPE is almost waxlike to
start with.

If this is the case, you can easily get the plasticizer out of the
bottle by baking the bottle in an overn at 150 F for 24 hours.  If you
do that, then any plastic taste should be gone if you use it later for
CS.

Marshall

esl...@aol.com wrote:

  Would it put it be correct to say that ionic silver can react with
 plastic containers? I've been using HDPE plastic  bottles from
 specialtybottle.com  to store the cs from my Silver Puppy gen. and
 sometimes I can taste the plastic. I wonder if I'm ingesting silver
 reacting with plastic in some way?
 Thanks
 Steve


CSHelp for Hepatitis C???

2003-12-01 Thread Judydownmaine
A friend has severe Hep C and the doctors want to do “The Treatment,” which,
they admit, has a 40% chance of working “for a while” and then the Hep C is
very likely to return. The treatment is 46 weeks long, painful and very like
chemo, he was told.

Does anyone on the list have knowledge of recovery from Hep C using CS?
If so, what was your procedure?
Judy Down Maine
_
We have an Attention Deficit
Democracy in this country.
James Bovard, author
Terrorism and Tyranny



CSHelp for Hepatitis C???

2003-12-01 Thread Trem
Hi Judy,

I have had several customer use at least a pint or more daily and knock the Hep 
C down completely.  And that is without using interferon or any other drugs.  
It was the CS alone that did the job.  In all the reports I can recall, it did 
not take long.  I believe time was related to the amount used daily.

Trem
  - Original Message - 
  From: Judydownmaine 
  To: Silver-List 
  Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 1:04 PM
  Subject: [silver_list] CSHelp for Hepatitis C???


  A friend has severe Hep C and the doctors want to do “The Treatment,” which, 
they admit, has a 40% chance of working “for a while” and then the Hep C is 
very likely to return. The treatment is 46 weeks long, painful and very like 
chemo, he was told.

   

  Does anyone on the list have knowledge of recovery from Hep C using CS?

  If so, what was your procedure?

  Judy Down Maine

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RE: CSHelp for Hepatitis C???

2003-12-01 Thread Rob Combis
Judy-
I would look at the Beck's protocol for this.  It uses colloidal silver, blood 
electrification, magnetic pulsing and ozonated water in combination to fight 
any disease or condition.  It is said to be extremely effective.  I have just 
started my uncle on this, as he is fighting what they call 'pre-leukimia'.  So 
let me know if you have any questions on what to do or where to get the 
supplies or whatever.
 
Here are some articles on Beck's protocols.
http://www.sharinghealth.com/beckprotocol/whatisbp.htm
http://www.doctor-of-the-future.com/freehealtharticlesbeckarticle.htm
http://www.toolsforhealing.com/Health/Beck/Beck_Protocol.htm
 
You can fight this alternatively, however sometimes it is just hard to convince 
the parties involved that it can work.  Please let me know if I can help you 
any further.  There is a good video on the beck's protocol that is available at 
a bunch of different alternative healing shops on the web.
 
Rob
 
 
-Original Message- 
From: Judydownmaine [mailto:apea...@midcoast.com] 
Sent: Mon 12/1/2003 4:04 PM 
To: Silver-List 
Cc: 
Subject: CSHelp for Hepatitis C???


A friend has severe Hep C and the doctors want to do “The Treatment,” 
which, they admit, has a 40% chance of working “for a while” and then the Hep C 
is very likely to return. The treatment is 46 weeks long, painful and very like 
chemo, he was told.
 
Does anyone on the list have knowledge of recovery from Hep C using CS?
If so, what was your procedure?
Judy Down Maine
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Re: CSAntibiotics and cs?

2003-12-01 Thread Hank
Ode the one I got just has a filter that picks up the water and a small fan 
blows out like a swamp cooler and no heater, I don't know if it will let the CS 
get through or not. It takes about 24 hr to use 1 gallon and you can't see any 
coming out. If it will kill anything in the house I will be happy if now then 
oh well it is a humidifier. I don't think you could breath in any CS with it 
like what some are wanting.

Sincerely Yours,
Hank
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  - Original Message - 
  From: Ode Coyote 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 11:17 AM
  Subject: Re: CSAntibiotics and cs?


  Cool Mist 
  I think that's the one I looked at and almost bought...right before I saw 
that it had a heating element in it.
  Ode

  At 11:37 PM 11/30/2003 -0600, you wrote: 
  

I'm not sure if the cool mist is what you want. You want one that says 
ionizer.
Nancy

  - Original Message - 
  From: mailto:h...@arkansas.netHank 
  To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, November 28, 2003 12:24 AM
  Subject: Re: CSAntibiotics and cs?

  I just went to wal-mart and bought a Cool mist Humidifier, I am going to 
put 20PPM CS in it and run it. I don't know if it will do anything but hay it 
is something to do. and I do hope it kills something, I don't care what. 
Goodnight all. hope you had a good day and lots of turkey. 

  Sincerely Yours,
  Hank
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From: mailto:nancym...@prodigy.netNancy DeLise 
To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Friday, November 28, 2003 12:19 AM
Subject: Re: CSAntibiotics and cs?

CS does not destroy antibiotics, it destroys bacteria, fungus, and 
virsus.


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  Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 12:34 AM
  Subject: CSAntibiotics and cs?

  Does cs destroy antibiotics ? Some folks I have given cs to have 
asked this question.
  Thanks
  Steve 


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Re: CSTest Results

2003-12-01 Thread sol
Ken,
  Sorry, but I can't make heads or tails of Frank's test results--can
you translate them into plain english? I'd like to know, not sure if
my Ole Bob thermal stir series 2 is the same version you made your
test batches with, but I am having the same large (almost half of the
PWT reading at auto shut off) drop in uS after a few days storage. I
had been kinda surprised a the large drop in conductance. But given my
idiosyncratic problems making clear CS, I just had figured it was
something unique to here.
TIA,
paula


- Original Message - 
From: Ode Coyote coyote...@earthlink.net
 At 03:57 PM 11/30/2003 -0500, you wrote:
 Ode,
 
 Here are the test results for your samples from the ICP/AES.
 
 
  These batches [#1+#2] were run totally plug n play / absolute
neglect in a
 beaker and added together to form an average, .

 SampleTotal SilverIonic Silver% Ionic
 Conductivity
#ppmppm
 (uS/cm)
 
 1-2 11.29 9.6885.7
 12.6

  This batch was totally plug n play/ absolute neglect in a pint
canning jar
 allowed to sit for 8 days in clear glass. It could have used a
stir/reset
 sequence.
  My record:
 Off at 17 uS @92.2 deg F dropping to 8.5 uS in 8 days.

  The result:
  3 9.25 9.12
98.6
 8.5
 
 
 
 ICP/AES Measurements:
 
 1. Each measured value was an average of three individual
measurements. Each
 individual measurement was taken from three replicates of 10
seconds each.
 Total integration time per measured value (3 x 3 x 10 seconds) is
90
 seconds.
 
 2. Measured made using the silver emission spectral line at
328.068 nm
 
 3. Calibration: blank ( 0.00 ppm) and 10.00 ppm - linear from 0 -
30.00 ppm
 (minimum)
 
 3A. Measurement error (95% confidence) is less than: 0.05 ppm
 
 4. Particles were removed from samples by application of 365,000
G-forces
 for 15 minutes.
 
 
 Particles size distribution plots will be done in the next few
days and the
 .pdf files will be emailed to you.
 
 
 Francis Key, Principal Scientist
 Colloidal Science Lab. Inc.
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Re: CSPneumonia

2003-12-01 Thread Drbillpmt
Gladys,

The dosage for a nebulizer is about 5 milliliters per treatment, you should 
treast 4 times a day. In addition, you should also administer 2 fluid ounces 
orally, three times a day.

Dr. Bill Biagioli


Re: CSOT/ Grapes detox diet

2003-12-01 Thread silversurfer1952 .

Hi Vitale,

About 25 years ago a friend of mine showed me a small book on the Grape 
Cure.  Here's a link to it...


http://www.arnoldehret.org/healthclub/grapecure.html

all the best,
Elle


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  Hi.
  When I was in Hoxsey clinic, one of the doctors mentioned something 
about 30 days grapes detox diet. All I know that it was used by some 
Naturopath to treat cancer. Does anybody know any details about it?

  Thanks
  Vitale


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CSCORRECTION to earlier post

2003-12-01 Thread Brooks Bradley
 My apologiesI mis-spelled the name of the gentleman to whom I 
referred last eveningwhen I replied to  
James O. Holmes' post adddressing Rife/Bare machines.  The
man's name is Bruce Stenulson, not Stenalson.  My memory, along with my mental 
acuity, is undergoing rapid erosion.
Sincerely,  Brooks Bradley.



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RE: CSHelp for Hepatitis C???

2003-12-01 Thread James Holmes
Bruce Marx N.D  reports success in treating Hep C with CS.
 
Since it takes about a daily bathtub full of 10 PPM CS to give a standard
150 lb person a toxic dose of silver, the main limitation is financial.
This is not very significant compared with conventional medical costs, even
if you spend $500 on a good generator. 
 
If it were me, I would be doing about a quart a day.
 
JOH
-Original Message-
From: Judydownmaine [mailto:apea...@midcoast.com] 
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 2:04 PM
To: Silver-List
Subject: CSHelp for Hepatitis C???


A friend has severe Hep C and the doctors want to do The Treatment, which,
they admit, has a 40% chance of working for a while and then the Hep C is
very likely to return. The treatment is 46 weeks long, painful and very like
chemo, he was told.
 
Does anyone on the list have knowledge of recovery from Hep C using CS?
If so, what was your procedure?
Judy Down Maine
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Democracy in this country.
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RE: CSWhy the yellow CS - an hypothesis

2003-12-01 Thread sscsr1
What do you use to observe the stirring? I mean, do you put a glass on the
heat source and add something to the water so you could see the stirring
effect? I have actually seen the effect with flakes of silver in the water
when I didn't wipe the electrodes and let it run for about 3 hours. Looked
neat. I just wondered what method you used to observe cause I get asked how
I know it's working all the time and I would like to show those who inquire
without having to use silver.

Jeff

 

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From: Ode Coyote [mailto:coyote...@earthlink.net] 
Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2003 8:08 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSWhy the yellow CS - an hypothesis

 

Yes
With a hot spot in the center bottom, heat rises fast in the center as it is
shed along the outside perifery which makes the cooler liquid sink, further
reinforcing the central updraft.

Going the other way with liquid cooling [vs heating], you get pretty much
the same central updraft as the cool liquid on the outside edges sinks,
forcing warmer liquid up through the center and back around to the outside
top.

Preheating and allowing to cool works pretty well for stirring, but tends to
peter out as the container gets cool too fast.

Both directions ..hot to cool or cool to hot..give the same thermal torrid
in the same direction.
So, if it seems that heat is gaining too much, Let it cool and you still get
a thermal stir effect.
It's not heat itself that does the job, it's the thermal differential, or
difference in heat.
Which also means that a cool room adds to the effect.

Ode

At 11:25 AM 11/29/2003 -0500, you wrote: 


It makes sense that a glass
lid on top of a thermally mixed
vessel would produce a
better CS.

In a cylindrical vessel heated
at its lower end, the steady-state
convection will be an updraft
vertically along the center axial
region, and a downdraft along
the periphery of the cylinder
except for cooling losses at
the top surface. A glass lid will
diminish the latter loss, thereby
increasing the convection
down the inside periphery of
the vessel. The result is more
stirring without additional heating.

Best wishes,

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RE: CSHelp for Hepatitis C???

2003-12-01 Thread James Holmes
I would also take a lot of A lipoic Acid aka Thiotic Acid, among others. 
-Original Message-
From: James Holmes [mailto:ami...@starband.net] 
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 11:07 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSHelp for Hepatitis C???


Bruce Marx N.D  reports success in treating Hep C with CS.
 
Since it takes about a daily bathtub full of 10 PPM CS to give a standard
150 lb person a toxic dose of silver, the main limitation is financial.
This is not very significant compared with conventional medical costs, even
if you spend $500 on a good generator. 
 
If it were me, I would be doing about a quart a day.
 
JOH
-Original Message-
From: Judydownmaine [mailto:apea...@midcoast.com] 
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 2:04 PM
To: Silver-List
Subject: CSHelp for Hepatitis C???


A friend has severe Hep C and the doctors want to do The Treatment, which,
they admit, has a 40% chance of working for a while and then the Hep C is
very likely to return. The treatment is 46 weeks long, painful and very like
chemo, he was told.
 
Does anyone on the list have knowledge of recovery from Hep C using CS?
If so, what was your procedure?
Judy Down Maine
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Democracy in this country.
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