Re: CSCS for antacid? was Re: CSYeast Infection Help

2003-12-18 Thread Ode Coyote


  Probably more complicted than this...but..
 If you make silver chloride from salt, it leaves sodium behind, which
combines with water to make sodium hydroxide...which will neutralize acid.
 Seems to me that it would take a heck of a lot of CS to do anything much.
 Eating a piece of chalk oughta work better [Tums]
 Or mabe there's an acid producing micro organizm or enzyme at work?
Ode

At 03:46 PM 12/18/2003 +0900, you wrote:
Paula,

We have some chemists on the list methinks.   Help from the PhDs?


JBB



On Thursday, Dec 18, 2003, at 14:36 Asia/Tokyo, sol wrote:

 Jonathan,
   I recently had an attack (very rare for me these days) of acid,
 burning, etc, and CS worked to stop the pain. I thought about taking
 some probiotic, or antacid, but decided to try CS first.it
 really did work. I have  fewer ideas than you about why this would be
 so. As you say, it is interesting though.
 paula
 - Original Message -
 From: Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp


 Odd coincidence that you report CS useful as an anti-diarrheal;   I
 found, quite by accident,  that it seems to work as an antacid!

 I have no idea what the mechanism could be,  but after finding, by
 chance, that a gulp of CS remedied late-night acid reflux (from
 overeating),  I have tried several times since then, with the same
 result.

 I am just guessing that if, as some claim, ionic silver forms silver
 chloride in vivo,  then the silver chloride has the chemical
 property
 of neutralizing acids.   I am not a chemist so this is just a guess.
 As for the effect you describe,  I just do not know.   Neither
 effect
 would seem related to the anti-microbial properties of CS.




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CSHas anybody used CS for Shingles?

2003-12-18 Thread twll


Re: CSYeast Infection Help

2003-12-18 Thread Val Morten
do some research on the net, gerd, to some is caused by yeast
overgrowth.
roger
 
 Odd coincidence that you report CS useful as an anti-diarrheal;   I
 found, quite by accident,  that it seems to work as an antacid!
 
 I have no idea what the mechanism could be,  but after finding, by
 chance, that a gulp of CS remedied late-night acid reflux (from
 overeating),  I have tried several times since then, with the same
 result.
 
 I am just guessing that if, as some claim, ionic silver forms silver
 chloride in vivo,  then the silver chloride has the chemical property
 of neutralizing acids.   I am not a chemist so this is just a guess.
 As for the effect you describe,  I just do not know.   Neither effect
 would seem related to the anti-microbial properties of CS.
 
 On Thursday, Dec 18, 2003, at 12:27 Asia/Tokyo, sol wrote:
 
 You aren't the first person to report yeast symptoms after taking
  CS. It has never happened to me though, and I often take a whole lot
  more than your 3-5 oz per day, and my CS is more like 10-15ppm. I
  don't personally believe CS can disrupt the bacteria in the human
  bowel, perhaps somewhat in the upper small intestine, but not the
  large intestine. At least I can't get it to disrupt mine. It seems to
  me like colonics, since they actually go into the bowel ought to
  disrupt the flora a lot more (by washing them out), since so many
  think CS never gets far into the bowel in liquid form unless there is
  severe diarrhea. Since I do get diarrhea once in a while (usually from
  eating too much high carb high sugar stuff) I take the opportunity to
  drink from a pint to a quart of CS very fast in hopes of getting it
  through the whole tract in liquid form, but the CS has stops the
  diarrhea so fast it could not have made a complete transit as liquid,
  or I don't think so anyway.
It makes no sense to me to take CS and a probiotic together. I try
  to take mine a couple hours apart.
I wonder what would have happened if you had upped your CS intake
  even more rather than stopped it? Or gone ahead and tried it
  topically? Could it be that CS kills some of the bacteria that might
  be keeping the yeast in check first (would not necessarily be
  beneficial bacteria), but the yeast organisms take longer to kill off,
  thus resulting in a flare? My thinking is that maybe it takes more CS
  to kill candida than to kill bacteria/viruses. I'd really like to know
  if you ever figure out exactly what is happening, as I don't
  understand it.
  paula
 
 
   3
  days later I started getting the first signs of a yeast
  infection-never full
  blown but bad enough.  Not only was I getting sick but yeasty and I
  was
  taking 5 ounces a day!
 
  I stopped my CS on Friday (to test it) and today (Tuesday) I no


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CSWalgreen's Personal Ultrasonic Humidifier

2003-12-18 Thread daddybob
Little bitty thing, just got it yesterday.

I know there was some posting not too long ago about a
Walgreen's ultasonic humidifier being used with CS.
Was it this one? If so I don't want to clutter the
list.

If not, if this is something new, we're using it with
pure CS (made with a Silverpuppy), to work on my wife
and middle daughter with Sinus infections that in the
end, did not respond as well as we thought to the
nasal spray bottle routine.

My wife apparently has a tooth that needs a root canal
and is harboring infection that we cannot otherwise
seem to knock completely out. My sinus infections were
not completely ended until I had one last tooth
root-canaled. I maintain that if this is the root
cause (no pun intended) that one cannot rid themselves
of a latent sinus infection until you rid the tooth of
the bacteria or spores that lay in wait. If the tooth
root is necrotic, circulation cannot carry either CS
or antibiotics in there.

However I do realize that possibly a magnetic pulser
might kill the bacteria, and there are other more
esoteric means that might then result in regeneration.
Frequencies may also work, as Dean Miller maintains it
took a Clark Zapper to cure his.

I'm following the progress closely of the guys
building the MegaMagPulser (Mike D. being one). But if
we can't get this infection whipped soon, she'll need
that root canal. 

So anyway she's trying to nasally inhale as much CS as
possible right now with this humidifier, and we did
give in to a doctor visit and a scrip. We gotta spend
her medical savings anyway or we lose it.

She does report that the very first use of the
humidifier made her feel much better, and she already
has a breaking-up cough.

If y'all haven't seen this thing, it's really handy
and really throws out a big mist. You can sit and
watch TV and hold this thing in your hand and breathe
the mist.

Daddybob

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Re: CSWalgreen's Personal Ultrasonic Humidifier

2003-12-18 Thread ALopezTCR
In a message dated 12/18/2003 8:37:23 AM Central Standard Time, 
daddybob52...@yahoo.com writes:

 But if
 we can't get this infection whipped soon, she'll need
 that root canal. 
 

Daddybob..please do be careful with the root canal issue..I had one a few 
months ago and am suffering terribly from an infection that was sealed off by 
the 
gutta percha...the biologic dentists use biocalex when they do root canals 
but I was in such agony and didn't have a biologic dentist at my disposal or in 
knowledge...now it seems I need to have the tooth extracted to quell the 
infection.  I use a frequency machine and hope to have a magnetic pulser...

Best wishes,

Donna


RE: CSCS for antacid? was Re: CSYeast Infection Help

2003-12-18 Thread Richard Harris
Dear Ones,

Thanks for all the good,, helpful items you send to this site!
I've found that by using a mouthful of CS after each meal, after brushing
teeth (to protect from ravages of Fluoride in toothpaste), acid reflux, gas,
indigestion and other related discomforts. Viva CS!

Sincerely,
Richard Harris, 56 yr FL Pharmacist

-Original Message-
From: sol [mailto:pcar...@wyoming.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 12:37 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSCS for antacid? was Re: CSYeast Infection Help


Jonathan,
  I recently had an attack (very rare for me these days) of acid,
burning, etc, and CS worked to stop the pain. I thought about taking
some probiotic, or antacid, but decided to try CS first.it
really did work. I have  fewer ideas than you about why this would be
so. As you say, it is interesting though.
paula
- Original Message -
From: Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp


 Odd coincidence that you report CS useful as an anti-diarrheal;   I
 found, quite by accident,  that it seems to work as an antacid!

 I have no idea what the mechanism could be,  but after finding, by
 chance, that a gulp of CS remedied late-night acid reflux (from
 overeating),  I have tried several times since then, with the same
 result.

 I am just guessing that if, as some claim, ionic silver forms silver
 chloride in vivo,  then the silver chloride has the chemical
property
 of neutralizing acids.   I am not a chemist so this is just a guess.
 As for the effect you describe,  I just do not know.   Neither
effect
 would seem related to the anti-microbial properties of CS.




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CSWalgreen's Personal Ultrasonic Humidifier

2003-12-18 Thread Dan Nave
I have been both to the internet and to a Walgreen's store in the area
and have not been able to find a Walgreen's Personal Ultrasonic
Humidifier.  Is there a specific Model name and number for this unit?

Thanks,

Dan

CSWalgreen's Personal Ultrasonic Humidifier

 From: daddybob (view other messages by this author) 
 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 06:38:31 



Little bitty thing, just got it yesterday.

I know there was some posting not too long ago about a
Walgreen's ultasonic humidifier being used with CS.
Was it this one? If so I don't want to clutter the
list.

If not, if this is something new, we're using it with
pure CS (made with a Silverpuppy), to work on my wife
and middle daughter with Sinus infections that in the
end, did not respond as well as we thought to the
nasal spray bottle routine.

My wife apparently has a tooth that needs a root canal
and is harboring infection that we cannot otherwise
seem to knock completely out. My sinus infections were
not completely ended until I had one last tooth
root-canaled. I maintain that if this is the root
cause (no pun intended) that one cannot rid themselves
of a latent sinus infection until you rid the tooth of
the bacteria or spores that lay in wait. If the tooth
root is necrotic, circulation cannot carry either CS
or antibiotics in there.

However I do realize that possibly a magnetic pulser
might kill the bacteria, and there are other more
esoteric means that might then result in regeneration.
Frequencies may also work, as Dean Miller maintains it
took a Clark Zapper to cure his.

I'm following the progress closely of the guys
building the MegaMagPulser (Mike D. being one). But if
we can't get this infection whipped soon, she'll need
that root canal. 

So anyway she's trying to nasally inhale as much CS as
possible right now with this humidifier, and we did
give in to a doctor visit and a scrip. We gotta spend
her medical savings anyway or we lose it.

She does report that the very first use of the
humidifier made her feel much better, and she already
has a breaking-up cough.

If y'all haven't seen this thing, it's really handy
and really throws out a big mist. You can sit and
watch TV and hold this thing in your hand and breathe
the mist.

Daddybob


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RE: CSHas anybody used CS for Shingles?

2003-12-18 Thread Richard Harris
Hi Twill,
Your message was blank except for the headline question. Yes, Shingles can
be helped by applying wet CS soaks on cloth or paper towel for 30 minutes or
longer several times a day; taking several doses of CS by holding in mouth
for a couple minutes; taking B-12 sublingual tablets.
Sincerely,
Richard Harris, 56 yr FL Pharmacist

[Richard Harris]  -Original Message-
From: twll [mailto:t...@alltel.net]
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To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSHas anybody used CS for Shingles?




CSRoot Canal

2003-12-18 Thread Dan Nave
Try a mouthful of strong CS with a few dropper fulls of DMSO in it.
Hold it in the mouth as long as possible (eg: 5 minutes).
Do this as frequently as possible for a few days.

It tastes like crap! but it gets into the teeth and gums.
It may work for the root canal.  Got rid of my pyorrhea 
and gingivitis...

Dan


Re: CSWalgreen's Personal Ultrasonic Humidifier

In a message dated 12/18/2003 8:37:
23 AM Central Standard Time, daddybob52...@yahoo.com writes:

But if

we can't get this infection whipped soon, she'll need

that root canal. 


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RE: CSWalgreen's Personal Ultrasonic Humidifier

2003-12-18 Thread Richard Harris
Hi Dan,

I searched my Humidifier box  found NO Model #; however, the item # is
809728 and
 the code # is  0  49022 20171  2
Communicate with your store manager  ask him to order one for you.

Sincerely,
Richard Harris, 56 yr FL Pharmacist

-Original Message-
From: Dan Nave [mailto:dn...@mn.nilfisk-advance.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 10:36 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSWalgreen's Personal Ultrasonic Humidifier


I have been both to the internet and to a Walgreen's store in the area
and have not been able to find a Walgreen's Personal Ultrasonic
Humidifier.  Is there a specific Model name and number for this unit?

Thanks,

Dan

CSWalgreen's Personal Ultrasonic Humidifier

 From: daddybob (view other messages by this author)
 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 06:38:31



Little bitty thing, just got it yesterday.

I know there was some posting not too long ago about a
Walgreen's ultasonic humidifier being used with CS.
Was it this one? If so I don't want to clutter the
list.

If not, if this is something new, we're using it with
pure CS (made with a Silverpuppy), to work on my wife
and middle daughter with Sinus infections that in the
end, did not respond as well as we thought to the
nasal spray bottle routine.

My wife apparently has a tooth that needs a root canal
and is harboring infection that we cannot otherwise
seem to knock completely out. My sinus infections were
not completely ended until I had one last tooth
root-canaled. I maintain that if this is the root
cause (no pun intended) that one cannot rid themselves
of a latent sinus infection until you rid the tooth of
the bacteria or spores that lay in wait. If the tooth
root is necrotic, circulation cannot carry either CS
or antibiotics in there.

However I do realize that possibly a magnetic pulser
might kill the bacteria, and there are other more
esoteric means that might then result in regeneration.
Frequencies may also work, as Dean Miller maintains it
took a Clark Zapper to cure his.

I'm following the progress closely of the guys
building the MegaMagPulser (Mike D. being one). But if
we can't get this infection whipped soon, she'll need
that root canal.

So anyway she's trying to nasally inhale as much CS as
possible right now with this humidifier, and we did
give in to a doctor visit and a scrip. We gotta spend
her medical savings anyway or we lose it.

She does report that the very first use of the
humidifier made her feel much better, and she already
has a breaking-up cough.

If y'all haven't seen this thing, it's really handy
and really throws out a big mist. You can sit and
watch TV and hold this thing in your hand and breathe
the mist.

Daddybob


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Re: CSOt prayers please

2003-12-18 Thread Carol Kehoe
You got it Julie.

Blessings

- Original Message - 
From: Julie Nelson fa...@kyk.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 11:53 AM
Subject: CSOt prayers please


 Sorry OT but ,Can every one please say a prayer for my sister inlaw she
 fell at the air port in TX last night last thing I heard was they thought
 she had broken her hip shoulder elbow a few ribs ect she not in good
health
 she has crones (sp) .

 She was Transforing planes on her way home from CA were she had went for
 the birth of her firsh grand  child a boy born yesterday .
 please pray she will be ok my brother is on his way after a awful night
 trying to get a plane out.

 thanks Julie N


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CSZapper

2003-12-18 Thread Carol Kehoe
OK, I've finally decided that a zapper is what I need.  Which one do you all
prefer?

C. Kehoe


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Re: CSCS for heartburn was Yeast Infection Help

2003-12-18 Thread Marshall Dudley
Jonathan B. Britten wrote:

 Odd coincidence that you report CS useful as an anti-diarrheal;   I
 found, quite by accident,  that it seems to work as an antacid!

I use it every time I get any heartburn. It virtually always works, and is
fast too.



 I have no idea what the mechanism could be,  but after finding, by
 chance, that a gulp of CS remedied late-night acid reflux (from
 overeating),  I have tried several times since then, with the same
 result.


It also apparently does a good job of curing ulcers.

I think the mechanism is this:

1. CS will stop the burning sensation of a burn almost instantly, thus giving
immediate relief.
2. High acid is often caused by low initial acid of the stomach, so that
bacteria start growing in the stomach, then the body responds by pouring on
the acid to kill the bacteria.  CS kills the bacteria immediately, so the
body qucikly normalizes the acid again giving the long term relief.

I have found that taking CS after a meal will prevent the heartburn in the
first place as well.


 I am just guessing that if, as some claim, ionic silver forms silver
 chloride in vivo,  then the silver chloride has the chemical property
 of neutralizing acids.   I am not a chemist so this is just a guess.
 As for the effect you describe,  I just do not know.   Neither effect
 would seem related to the anti-microbial properties of CS.

No, although the ionic will neutralize the acid when it converts to silver
chloride, the amount of acid neutralized by this would be only 5 to 10 ppm of
the acid, when the acid content is of the stomach is tens of thousands of ppm

See above on how killing the bacteria stops heartburn.

If the acid it so strong that CS alone will not stop it, then taking a few
tums will kill it, the tums neutralizing the acid immediately and the CS
soothing the burned areas and killing the bacteria so the body won't just
make more acid.

Marshall


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Re: CSCS for antacid? was Re: CSYeast Infection Help

2003-12-18 Thread Marshall Dudley
I believe the mechanism is as follows.

1. CS stops pain of burning by tending to short out the nerves of damaged
tissue or other mechanism such as reverting to stem cells. This results in
immeiate pain relief from any burn.
2. CS causes injured cells and blood cells to revert back to stem cells,
allowing very rapid repair of burned tissue
3. CS kills the bacteria, causing the body to quit making the acid, and start
neutralizing it.

If the heartburn is too great however, some antiacid may be required with the
CS for immediate relief.

Marshall

Jonathan B. Britten wrote:

 Paula,

 We have some chemists on the list methinks.   Help from the PhDs?

 JBB

 On Thursday, Dec 18, 2003, at 14:36 Asia/Tokyo, sol wrote:

  Jonathan,
I recently had an attack (very rare for me these days) of acid,
  burning, etc, and CS worked to stop the pain. I thought about taking
  some probiotic, or antacid, but decided to try CS first.it
  really did work. I have  fewer ideas than you about why this would be
  so. As you say, it is interesting though.
  paula
  - Original Message -
  From: Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp
 
 
  Odd coincidence that you report CS useful as an anti-diarrheal;   I
  found, quite by accident,  that it seems to work as an antacid!
 
  I have no idea what the mechanism could be,  but after finding, by
  chance, that a gulp of CS remedied late-night acid reflux (from
  overeating),  I have tried several times since then, with the same
  result.
 
  I am just guessing that if, as some claim, ionic silver forms silver
  chloride in vivo,  then the silver chloride has the chemical
  property
  of neutralizing acids.   I am not a chemist so this is just a guess.
  As for the effect you describe,  I just do not know.   Neither
  effect
  would seem related to the anti-microbial properties of CS.
 
 
 
 
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CSOt prayers please

2003-12-18 Thread Julie Nelson
 Sorry OT but ,Can every one please say a prayer for my sister inlaw she
fell at the air port in TX last night last thing I heard was they thought
she had broken her hip shoulder elbow a few ribs ect she not in good health
she has crones (sp) .

She was Transforing planes on her way home from CA were she had went for
the birth of her firsh grand  child a boy born yesterday .
please pray she will be ok my brother is on his way after a awful night
trying to get a plane out.

thanks Julie N


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Re: CSWalgreen's Personal Ultrasonic Humidifier

2003-12-18 Thread Marshall Dudley
Try using a zapper directly across the infection site.

Marshall

alopez...@aol.com wrote:

 In a message dated 12/18/2003 8:37:23 AM Central Standard Time,
 daddybob52...@yahoo.com writes:


 But if
 we can't get this infection whipped soon, she'll need
 that root canal.

 Daddybob..please do be careful with the root canal issue..I had one a
 few months ago and am suffering terribly from an infection that was
 sealed off by the gutta percha...the biologic dentists use biocalex
 when they do root canals but I was in such agony and didn't have a
 biologic dentist at my disposal or in knowledge...now it seems I need
 to have the tooth extracted to quell the infection.  I use a frequency
 machine and hope to have a magnetic pulser...

 Best wishes,

 Donna


Re: CSCS for antacid?

2003-12-18 Thread mamapug

It worked for me, too! I have a lot of acid tummy, and once the only thing
nearby was my CS bottle. Took a swig and the burning stopped!
Marshalee


 Jonathan,
   I recently had an attack (very rare for me these days) of acid,
 burning, etc, and CS worked to stop the pain. I thought about taking
 some probiotic, or antacid, but decided to try CS first.it
 really did work. I have  fewer ideas than you about why this would be
 so. As you say, it is interesting though.
 paula



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CSHas anybody used CS for Shingles?

2003-12-18 Thread Matthew McCann PE
Alfred B. Searle noted the use of
CS for shingles on page 86 of his
book Use Of Colloids In Health And
Disease (circa 1920s.)

Best regards,

Matthew

Re: CSYeast Infection Help

2003-12-18 Thread Pow-Map
Paula,
I don't understand it either :)  I did get a colonic recently and maybe the
combination of the 2 set it off. Prior colonics never did this but I always
loaded up on acidophilus afterwards.
I'm back to taking my CS but I'm making sure I take a daily dose of  Primal
Defense (Garden of Life-great product) and acidophilus at separate times
now.
I'm hoping this will alleviate the situation.
If not, I'll be here to ask for more advice..
Thank you,
Mag

- Original Message - 
From: sol pcar...@wyoming.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 10:27 PM
Subject: Re: CSYeast Infection Help


You aren't the first person to report yeast symptoms after taking
 CS. It has never happened to me though, and I often take a whole lot
 more than your 3-5 oz per day, and my CS is more like 10-15ppm. I
 don't personally believe CS can disrupt the bacteria in the human
 bowel, perhaps somewhat in the upper small intestine, but not the
 large intestine. At least I can't get it to disrupt mine. It seems to
 me like colonics, since they actually go into the bowel ought to
 disrupt the flora a lot more (by washing them out), since so many
 think CS never gets far into the bowel in liquid form unless there is
 severe diarrhea. Since I do get diarrhea once in a while (usually from
 eating too much high carb high sugar stuff) I take the opportunity to
 drink from a pint to a quart of CS very fast in hopes of getting it
 through the whole tract in liquid form, but the CS has stops the
 diarrhea so fast it could not have made a complete transit as liquid,
 or I don't think so anyway.
   It makes no sense to me to take CS and a probiotic together. I try
 to take mine a couple hours apart.
   I wonder what would have happened if you had upped your CS intake
 even more rather than stopped it? Or gone ahead and tried it
 topically? Could it be that CS kills some of the bacteria that might
 be keeping the yeast in check first (would not necessarily be
 beneficial bacteria), but the yeast organisms take longer to kill off,
 thus resulting in a flare? My thinking is that maybe it takes more CS
 to kill candida than to kill bacteria/viruses. I'd really like to know
 if you ever figure out exactly what is happening, as I don't
 understand it.
 paula


 - Original Message - 
 From: Pow-Map pow-...@ameritech.net
  3
  days later I started getting the first signs of a yeast
 infection-never full
  blown but bad enough.  Not only was I getting sick but yeasty and I
 was
  taking 5 ounces a day!
 
  I stopped my CS on Friday (to test it) and today (Tuesday) I no
 longer have
  ANY yeast symptoms.
 The advice I got was to take
  the 2 together at the same time.  But that doesn't make any sense to
 me???
  Doesn't one negate the other?
 
  Also, there were suggestions to actually use CS as a douche.  Since
 CS did
  disrupt my flora, would it be wise to use it as a douche?  As of
 right now,
  I'm no longer symptomatic but does that make sense anyway?
 
  FYI-I haven't had a yeast infection in OVER 10 years!  I get regular
  colonics and follow a high protein-low carb diet. No potatoes, only
 high
  grain-no sugar bread and very little refined sugars.  The only thing
 I
  changed was consumption of CS.
 
  Thank you in advance,
  Mag




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Re: CSHas anybody used CS for Shingles?

2003-12-18 Thread Nenah Sylver
A numver of people have told me that Larrea tridentata (aka chapparel, or
creosote bush) does a phenomenal job in alleviating their pain from shingles.

A doctor received five patents for the extraction, concentration and processing
of Larrea, including the removal of any compounds that could possibly harm the
liver. However, he has managed to preserve the phytochemicals that the plant
manufactures to protect itself from rot and from being eaten by insects and
animals. The plant is extraordinarily hardy and lives in the desert, where it is
virtually impervious to being destroyed. Once you realize that the plant's
phytochemicals can be used by us for our own purposes, it's easy to see why
people are using this substance for every condition under the sun.

People report almost instant relief from pain -- from shingles, herpes, and
inflamed muscles. I just spoke to a naturopath yesterday who told me that she
has a cyst at her spinal cord that has been giving her intense pain that
radiated all the way down her legs. Nothing natural had helped her, and she had
resorted to taking massive amounts of allopathic drugs (which, as you know,
aren't great for the body). With the spray, she received instantaneous relief.

It comes in capsules, a lotion and a spray. My personal website has information
about Larrea.  http://www.nenahsylver.com/default.asp?contentID=735toplevel=598

From my personal website, there is a link to my Larrea website, where you can
order as much or as little of the product wholesale.

Best,
Nenah

Nenah Sylver, Ph.D.
Products, services, and information about health
Author, *The Handbook of Rife Frequency Healing*
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RE: CSCS for antacid? was Re: CSYeast Infection Help

2003-12-18 Thread James Holmes
Wild Guess,

Perhaps the CS is killing Helicobacter Pilori. 


JOH
-Original Message-
From: sol [mailto:pcar...@wyoming.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 10:37 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSCS for antacid? was Re: CSYeast Infection Help


Jonathan,
  I recently had an attack (very rare for me these days) of acid, burning,
etc, and CS worked to stop the pain. I thought about taking some probiotic,
or antacid, but decided to try CS first.it really did work. I have
fewer ideas than you about why this would be so. As you say, it is
interesting though. paula
- Original Message - 
From: Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp


 Odd coincidence that you report CS useful as an anti-diarrheal;   I
 found, quite by accident,  that it seems to work as an antacid!

 I have no idea what the mechanism could be,  but after finding, by
 chance, that a gulp of CS remedied late-night acid reflux (from 
 overeating),  I have tried several times since then, with the same 
 result.

 I am just guessing that if, as some claim, ionic silver forms silver
 chloride in vivo,  then the silver chloride has the chemical
property
 of neutralizing acids.   I am not a chemist so this is just a guess.
 As for the effect you describe,  I just do not know.   Neither
effect
 would seem related to the anti-microbial properties of CS.




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Re: CSHas anybody used CS for Shingles?

2003-12-18 Thread Dan Nave
Re: CSHas anybody used CS for Shingles?

I had great results using a zapper for shingles.
Works best if you zapp immediately at the onset of symptoms.
I had one spot where I had it before I knew what it was and 
hadn't zapped, where it got kind of hard almost like a 
chicken pox pox.  The zapping didn't clear that local area 
up until I used castor oil on it to soften it up.  I think it had to do

with congestion - no blood circulation could get to it.

That was before I knew about CS.  Now I would take it as 
well and CS with DMSO would undoubtedly take care of 
the pox area too.  (*I* would still zapp...)

Dan


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Re: CSHas anybody used CS for Shingles?

2003-12-18 Thread Mary Lou Borgert
on 12/18/03 7:36 AM, Richard Harris at yr...@cfl.rr.com wrote:
HI YES I HAD A SEVERE CASE OF SHINGLES, I SPRAYED AND SPRAYED THE SPRAY LAST
15 MINUTES AND YOU MUST DO IT AGAIN BUT  I RID MYSELF OF SHINGLES IN 2 DAYS
BUT YOU MUST TAKE C/S FOR 6 MONTHS
Hi Twill,
Your message was blank except for the headline question. Yes, Shingles can
be helped by applying wet CS soaks on cloth or paper towel for 30 minutes or
longer several times a day; taking several doses of CS by holding in mouth
for a couple minutes; taking B-12 sublingual tablets.
Sincerely,
Richard Harris, 56 yr FL Pharmacist

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To: silver-list@eskimo.com
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Re: CSCS for antacid? was Re: CSYeast Infection Help

2003-12-18 Thread sol
   I don't know, it ought to kill H. Pylori.  My husband has GERD and
I had him do the protocol suggested by someone here (Brooks Bradley?)
and it did not help him. In fact he says swallowing CS gives him a
stomach achehe is having great results using it as mouthwash
though. His last check up a few days ago, resulted in a lot of ooohing
and ahing by the vet and techs over how clean his mouth is..
   Again, if his GERD is caused by yeasts,  (if that can be a cause)
it might take longer than a short course of it to do any good. But he
won't go for it. We all know how people can be..and if it did
indeed give him stomach pain I can't say as I blame him...other
people have reported stomach pain from CS, but it only helps me.  I
imagine the variables in what could cause different responses to CS
must be tremendous.
paula

- Original Message - 
From: James Holmes ami...@starband.net

 Perhaps the CS is killing Helicobacter Pilori.

 -Original Message-
 From: sol [mailto:pcar...@wyoming.com]

 Jonathan,
   I recently had an attack (very rare for me these days) of acid,
burning,
 etc, and CS worked to stop the pain.




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CSTooth Paste Suggestion

2003-12-18 Thread Wayne Fugitt

Evening Richard,

 found that by using a mouthful of CS after each meal, after brushing

teeth (to protect from ravages of Fluoride in toothpaste), acid reflux, gas,
indigestion and other related discomforts. Viva CS!



Soon I will have to buy more tooth paste.  I have been using some that 
was given to me and supposed to be free from any toxic chemicals.


Problem is, the tube labeling is in Chinese.  I suppose I can fall 
back to soda and salt if I don't find anything I can trust.


   I did find the Ichthammol ointment you suggested at a large country 
drug store for $ 2.29 per tube.

( 20 % )

The City stores charged over $ 6.00 for a similar but modified product.

   Wayne


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CStooth root infection

2003-12-18 Thread Shirley Reed
 Oil of oregano, mixed 50/50 with olive, safflower, etc. will help 
greatly to control, if not eradicate, the infection.  Just put some on a finger 
and put it on the root, or soak a small piece of cotton wool and put this 
between the root and the gum and leave it there for a while.  It will burn, but 
it is not unbearable.   best wishes.  pj


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Re: CSHas anybody used CS for Shingles?

2003-12-18 Thread Frank Key
See: http://www.purestcolloids.com/mesosilver-testimonials.htm#shingles
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  From: twll 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
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  Subject: CSHas anybody used CS for Shingles?




RE: CSCS for antacid?

2003-12-18 Thread J S Campbell
Thought you'd gone, glad I am not to late to congratulate you on your
degree, well done! Maybe some time in the future you will come over here to
Scotland to trace your ancestors. Hope the move goes well and I hope your
sisters health improves,
BW
Sheila

 -Original Message-
 From: mamapug [mailto:mama...@netzero.net]
 Sent: 18 December 2003 17:03
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSCS for antacid?



 It worked for me, too! I have a lot of acid tummy, and once the only thing
 nearby was my CS bottle. Took a swig and the burning stopped!
 Marshalee


  Jonathan,
I recently had an attack (very rare for me these days) of acid,
  burning, etc, and CS worked to stop the pain. I thought about taking
  some probiotic, or antacid, but decided to try CS first.it
  really did work. I have  fewer ideas than you about why this would be
  so. As you say, it is interesting though.
  paula



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Re: CSWalgreen's Personal Ultrasonic Humidifier

2003-12-18 Thread Hank
Hi Daddybob, Can you check this page 
http://www.walgreens.com/search/search_results.jhtml?_DARGS=/common/search/home_side_search.jhtml
 and let me know if one of these are the one you got? Thank you.

Sincerely Yours,
Hank
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http://www.radarmatrix.com
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http://hdka.stormpages.com/index.html
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  - Original Message - 
  From: daddybob 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 8:35 AM
  Subject: CSWalgreen's Personal Ultrasonic Humidifier


  Little bitty thing, just got it yesterday.

  I know there was some posting not too long ago about a
  Walgreen's ultasonic humidifier being used with CS.
  Was it this one? If so I don't want to clutter the
  list.
  If y'all haven't seen this thing, it's really handy
  and really throws out a big mist. You can sit and
  watch TV and hold this thing in your hand and breathe
  the mist.

  Daddybob


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Re: CSSage for memory

2003-12-18 Thread Jack Dayton
wwen...@aol.com   12/15/03 6:38 PM  Wrote:

 Jack,
 
 This company's extracts have been highly recommended to me - though I don't
 have personal experience with them.
 
 http://www.teetercreekherbs.com/single/sage.html
**
Thanks Jules,

what I haven't found is:

Sage oil (extract) capsules.

Jack

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RE: CSTooth Paste Suggestion

2003-12-18 Thread Richard Harris
Congratulations, Wayne, on your patient persistence and saving $$$!

I read the bit about using CS after each Fluoride brushing to neutralize the
Fl Poisoning--was grateful for the info.

Hope you're continually improving--please bring us up to date as to what you
used that you feel did the trick.
Best regards,
Richard Harris, 56 yr FL Pharmacist

-Original Message-
From: Wayne Fugitt [mailto:wa...@fugitt.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 1:53 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSTooth Paste Suggestion


Evening Richard,

  found that by using a mouthful of CS after each meal, after brushing
teeth (to protect from ravages of Fluoride in toothpaste), acid reflux,
gas,
indigestion and other related discomforts. Viva CS!


 Soon I will have to buy more tooth paste.  I have been using some that
was given to me and supposed to be free from any toxic chemicals.

 Problem is, the tube labeling is in Chinese.  I suppose I can fall
back to soda and salt if I don't find anything I can trust.

I did find the Ichthammol ointment you suggested at a large country
drug store for $ 2.29 per tube.
 ( 20 % )

The City stores charged over $ 6.00 for a similar but modified product.

Wayne


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Re: CSCS for antacid? was Re: CSYeast Infection Help

2003-12-18 Thread Marshall Dudley
sol wrote:

I don't know, it ought to kill H. Pylori.  My husband has GERD and
 I had him do the protocol suggested by someone here (Brooks Bradley?)
 and it did not help him. In fact he says swallowing CS gives him a
 stomach achehe is having great results using it as mouthwash
 though. His last check up a few days ago, resulted in a lot of ooohing
 and ahing by the vet and techs over how clean his mouth is..


Are you saying your husband goes to the vet?

Marshall


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Re: CSCS for antacid? was Re: CSYeast Infection Help

2003-12-18 Thread sol
ooops! I had vet on the brain, as my two cats went in for teeth
cleaning this morning, and I was frantically worried about them.
paula
- Original Message - 
From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com
His last check up a few days ago, resulted in a lot of ooohing
  and ahing by the vet and techs over how clean his mouth
is..
 

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CSFw: CSWalgreen's Personal Ultrasonic Humidifier

2003-12-18 Thread Hank

Hi again, I haven't received this post in my mail so I will send it again, I 
haven't received any mail from Silver list in hours, If one of these 
Humidifiers work with CS will you send me a reply to my mail? h...@arkansas.net 
Thank you.

- Original Message - 
From: Hank 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 1:27 PM
Subject: Re: CSWalgreen's Personal Ultrasonic Humidifier


Hi Daddybob, Can you check this page 
http://www.walgreens.com/search/search_results.jhtml?_DARGS=/common/search/home_side_search.jhtml
 and let me know if one of these are the one you got? Thank you.

Sincerely Yours,
Hank
  My home page
http://members.fortunecity.com/hdka
  Radarmatrix
http://www.radarmatrix.com
  Songs
http://hdka.stormpages.com/index.html
  Chemtrails
http://members.fortunecity.com/hdka/menact.html

  - Original Message - 
  From: daddybob 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 8:35 AM
  Subject: CSWalgreen's Personal Ultrasonic Humidifier


  Little bitty thing, just got it yesterday.

  I know there was some posting not too long ago about a
  Walgreen's ultasonic humidifier being used with CS.
  Was it this one? If so I don't want to clutter the
  list.
  If y'all haven't seen this thing, it's really handy
  and really throws out a big mist. You can sit and
  watch TV and hold this thing in your hand and breathe
  the mist.

  Daddybob


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CSNeed Engineering Help

2003-12-18 Thread Wayne Fugitt
Very soon I will be applying high voltage to the spider bite, something I 
should have done two weeks ago.


Thanks to a loving list member, Margie, for sending me the stun gun.

The alligator clip for attaching to the opposite side of the leg is in fact 
a Claw Type about 7/16 inches wide with 4 points on one side and 3 on the 
other.


The question is,  would I get a better connection by clipping to the skin 
or having someone press firmly on the end of the clip.  The surface area 
would be 1/4 X 7/16 inches, rather than the few points biting into the skin .


Also by pressing into the calf muscle on the opposite side, the muscle 
would be compressed and the current path would be shorter.   I plan a total 
of 7 charges of two seconds each,

One at 12, 2, 4, 6, 8, 10 o'clock and one in the center.

This is something I have never done.  I think I can stand the pain ok.

Clipping the skin with that mean claw clip scares me worse than the high 
voltage.


Suggestions and ideas welcome.

Wayne


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Re: CS for heartburn

2003-12-18 Thread Jack Dayton

Jonathan B. Britten wrote
 Odd coincidence that you report CS useful as an anti-diarrheal;   I
 found, quite by accident,  that it seems to work as an antacid!

Marshall Dudley   12/18/03 8:44 AM  replied
 
 I use it every time I get any heartburn. It virtually always works, and is
 fast too.
***
I don't remember whether I have mentioned this previously, but
I took an anti-biotic on a doctors advise about 8 years ago, for
something or other, whose name escapes me ( as do young,agile
females )  :-)  but the point that I would like to make here it that
I haven't had a bout with heart burn since then, but certain foods
were guaranteed to bring on the pain no matter how carefully
or slowly I chewed.

It was probably almost a year before I realized that I was no
longer suffering.  What I later learned was that a specific , I think,
bacteria living in the stomach was probably the culprit.
If that anti-biotic could do the job  WHY NOT CS ?

Jack

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CSNeed engineering help

2003-12-18 Thread Matthew McCann PE
There are better ways to make
contact than clipping directly to
your skin. If I were doing it to
myself, I would clip it to a small
piece of sponge saturated with
salt water and press the sponge
against my skin with a rubber-gloved
hand.

CSNeed engineering help

2003-12-18 Thread Matthew McCann PE
AND, it is better if the rubber-gloved
hand is not yours. Let an assistant
press the sponge, with the assistant's
other hand behind his or her back.

RE: CSTooth Paste SuggestionFlouride generally, a bit Off Topic

2003-12-18 Thread James Holmes
The following is very difficult to accept.

This is the most current and thorough and well-documented brief summary of
the fluoride atrocity that I have seen.  There is mounds more at
www.trufax.org

Don't drink the tap water!  Don't bathe! You get a big dose through your
skin.  .  Or, if  you must bathe and If you are on a public water supply,
get a filter on your tub/shower water.  Not just any filter, but one that
removes halogens. 

It is also in food due to the water used

http://www.rense.com/general45/bll.htm

If you are not yet aware of the real story of intentional mass chemical
mind-control and slow genocide, this is a must-read.  Aspartame is the other
big one.  In most European countries the amount of F allowed in the water
is---from memory---0.01 PPM, give or take a zero.  In the US, the
uninformed (Or unbelieving, or lazy)  are doing about 6 PPM (More or less),
but there is no real oversight of the dosage.  Here in Santa Fe, one
unsupervised worker does it. 


Long read; it gets really outrageous about 2/3 in. 

'scuse me Mike...I hope you consider this important enough to pardon the
off-topic nature of the post. 
 

JOH

-Original Message-
From: Richard Harris [mailto:yr...@cfl.rr.com] 
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 1:00 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Cc: Richard Harris
Subject: RE: CSTooth Paste Suggestion


Congratulations, Wayne, on your patient persistence and saving $$$!

I read the bit about using CS after each Fluoride brushing to neutralize the
Fl Poisoning--was grateful for the info.

Hope you're continually improving--please bring us up to date as to what you
used that you feel did the trick. Best regards, Richard Harris, 56 yr FL
Pharmacist

-Original Message-
From: Wayne Fugitt [mailto:wa...@fugitt.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 1:53 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSTooth Paste Suggestion


Evening Richard,

  found that by using a mouthful of CS after each meal, after brushing
teeth (to protect from ravages of Fluoride in toothpaste), acid reflux,
gas,
indigestion and other related discomforts. Viva CS!


 Soon I will have to buy more tooth paste.  I have been using some that
was given to me and supposed to be free from any toxic chemicals.

 Problem is, the tube labeling is in Chinese.  I suppose I can fall back
to soda and salt if I don't find anything I can trust.

I did find the Ichthammol ointment you suggested at a large country drug
store for $ 2.29 per tube.
 ( 20 % )

The City stores charged over $ 6.00 for a similar but modified product.

Wayne


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CSNeed engineering help

2003-12-18 Thread Matthew McCann PE
If there is enough time, have the
assistant wear several rubber
gloves of increasing size.
The assistant should stand,
not sit, and be wearing rubber
boots. The assistant should also
be prepared to feel a powerful
shock.

Re: CSNeed engineering help

2003-12-18 Thread CKing001
Oh for goodness sake...

Slip it under a velcro strap or a belt or garter.
No need to get anyone else involved.

Chuck

You know sometimes I get the sudden urge to run  around naked.  
But then I just drink some Windex. 
 It keeps me from streaking. 


On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 20:53:47 -0500, Matthew McCann PE mmcc...@franciscan.edu
wrote:

If there is enough time, have the
assistant wear several rubber
gloves of increasing size.
The assistant should stand,
not sit, and be wearing rubber
boots. The assistant should also
be prepared to feel a powerful
shock.


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Re: CSNeed Engineering Help

2003-12-18 Thread Jack Dayton
Wayne Fugitt   12/18/03 3:51 PM  Wrote:

 This is something I have never done.  I think I can stand the pain ok.
 
 Clipping the skin with that mean claw clip scares me worse than the high
 voltage.
Well, why not round-off the points?

Jack

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CSNeed engineering help

2003-12-18 Thread Matthew McCann PE
Beware of breaks in the skin
and two-handed manuevers.
Even tiny currents through the
thorax can and do cause
ventricular fibrulation.


Re: CSNeed Engineering Help

2003-12-18 Thread Wayne Fugitt

Evening Jack,


Well, why not round-off the points?


That was my urge also.  But I did not make any modifications.  It bites the 
skin firmly.


Just finished the first treatment of 5 hits, one in the center and one each 
at 12, 3, 6, and 9 oclock.


Believe me, no one wants a spider bite for many reasons.  The high voltage 
is one of them.


Wayne


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Re: CSNeed engineering help

2003-12-18 Thread Wayne Fugitt

Evening Matthew,



There are better ways to make contact than clipping directly to
your skin. If I were doing it to myself, I would clip it to a small
piece of sponge saturated with salt water and press the sponge
against my skin with a rubber-gloved


   I thought so too.

   Now after feeling the effect, I think the clipped on connection is good 
enough.


   Wayne


CSNeed engineering help

2003-12-18 Thread Matthew McCann PE
Hi, Wayne!

Good to read everything is OK.
Microamperes have electrocuted
patients in hospitals through
breaks in the skin opening electrical
pathways to the blood and 
through the thorax. It is
definitely not a trifling risk.

Matthew

Re: CSTooth Paste SuggestionFlouride generally, a bit Off Topic

2003-12-18 Thread twll
Speaking of teeth.I stumbled accross this.They claim
60% of toothpaste is gylcerine  it demineralizes your teeth  you should
use bar soap to brush with.They are selling a book on it that may help.
www.leviticusll.com/goodt.htm It was a link off of
Mike Browns site.
- Original Message - 
From: James Holmes ami...@starband.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 7:22 PM
Subject: RE: CSTooth Paste SuggestionFlouride generally, a bit Off Topic


 The following is very difficult to accept.

 This is the most current and thorough and well-documented brief summary of
 the fluoride atrocity that I have seen.  There is mounds more at
 www.trufax.org

 Don't drink the tap water!  Don't bathe! You get a big dose through your
 skin.  .  Or, if  you must bathe and If you are on a public water supply,
 get a filter on your tub/shower water.  Not just any filter, but one that
 removes halogens.

 It is also in food due to the water used

 http://www.rense.com/general45/bll.htm

 If you are not yet aware of the real story of intentional mass chemical
 mind-control and slow genocide, this is a must-read.  Aspartame is the
other
 big one.  In most European countries the amount of F allowed in the water
 is---from memory---0.01 PPM, give or take a zero.  In the US, the
 uninformed (Or unbelieving, or lazy)  are doing about 6 PPM (More or
less),
 but there is no real oversight of the dosage.  Here in Santa Fe, one
 unsupervised worker does it.


 Long read; it gets really outrageous about 2/3 in.

 'scuse me Mike...I hope you consider this important enough to pardon the
 off-topic nature of the post.


 JOH

 -Original Message-
 From: Richard Harris [mailto:yr...@cfl.rr.com]
 Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 1:00 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Cc: Richard Harris
 Subject: RE: CSTooth Paste Suggestion


 Congratulations, Wayne, on your patient persistence and saving $$$!

 I read the bit about using CS after each Fluoride brushing to neutralize
the
 Fl Poisoning--was grateful for the info.

 Hope you're continually improving--please bring us up to date as to what
you
 used that you feel did the trick. Best regards, Richard Harris, 56 yr FL
 Pharmacist

 -Original Message-
 From: Wayne Fugitt [mailto:wa...@fugitt.com]
 Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 1:53 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: CSTooth Paste Suggestion


 Evening Richard,

   found that by using a mouthful of CS after each meal, after brushing
 teeth (to protect from ravages of Fluoride in toothpaste), acid reflux,
 gas,
 indigestion and other related discomforts. Viva CS!


  Soon I will have to buy more tooth paste.  I have been using some
that
 was given to me and supposed to be free from any toxic chemicals.

  Problem is, the tube labeling is in Chinese.  I suppose I can fall
back
 to soda and salt if I don't find anything I can trust.

 I did find the Ichthammol ointment you suggested at a large country
drug
 store for $ 2.29 per tube.
  ( 20 % )

 The City stores charged over $ 6.00 for a similar but modified product.

 Wayne


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CSMicro amps and Watch Batteries

2003-12-18 Thread Wayne Fugitt

Evening Matthew,

Thanks for the comments and  warning.

Good to read everything is OK.

I think so, for a day or two at least.

I was thinking of another shock treatment either Sat or Sun.

Microamperes have electrocuted patients in hospitals through breaks in the 
skin opening electrical

pathways to the blood and  through the thorax. It is
definitely not a trifling risk.


  Before this spider got to me, I never thought much about fear.  I have 
walked many miles in swamps and hills where large snakes exist.  Have had a 
number of close calls, but never a bite.


  We do face many hazards in our every day work and travel.  Still, I have 
always been relatively
brave, but not foolish.   I do some dangerous electrical work at 
times.  Still, never a mishap in all my years.


  Now, I have to fear a lowly insect.  And a few micro amps flowing in the 
wrong place.


  I have read that people in primitive countries, usually with aids and 
other diseases, commit suicide by swallowing a watch battery.


  Maybe you or someone can tell us how this works. ( not that I plan to do 
it )


  Wayne




CSMicro amps and Watch Batteries

2003-12-18 Thread Matthew McCann PE
Hi, Wayne!

I am just delighted you seem fit as a
fiddle following your experiment!
My chief concern is that you have happily
shaken hands with the lightning bolt
with no harm, just like Benjamin
Franklin did, but those who follow in
your footsteps may not be so
fortunate.

The stun gun is fully capable of doing to
cardiac muscle what it does to skeletal muscle.
All it takes is a thoracic pathway.
The stun gun is not designed to deliver
self-administered shocks, with current flowing
between two different limbs. The original
spacing of its electrodes was supposed to
prevent lethal  thoracic currents. The modification
defeats this design.

I hadn't heard of the watch battery as a means
of committing suicide. The two electrodes are
spaced so closely that it seems unlikely a
microamperage would be produced outside
the G.I. tract. Does death ensue quickly? If not,
it may be the nasty chemicals inside the
battery coming out.

Incidentally, I think the AIDS pandemic in Africa
and the ensuing suicide wave may be treatable
and preventable, respectively. We don't hear much
about CS and Imusil being dispensed in Africa,
or am I wrong?

I think the spider bite is a dreadful tragedy and
I do not begrudge you the prospect of overcoming
it if that is what the stun gun can do. I wish you
the very best outcome of your heroic endeavor!
May God speed you to a full recovery.

Best wishes,

Matthew

Re: CSMicro amps and Watch Batteries

2003-12-18 Thread Robb Allen
Did you guys see that cool movie?..with the heart patients being chased by 
dinosaurs?.
Thoracic Park
Robb
  - Original Message - 
  From: Matthew McCann PE 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 12:07 AM
  Subject: CSMicro amps and Watch Batteries


  Hi, Wayne!

  I am just delighted you seem fit as a
  fiddle following your experiment!
  My chief concern is that you have happily
  shaken hands with the lightning bolt
  with no harm, just like Benjamin
  Franklin did, but those who follow in
  your footsteps may not be so
  fortunate.

  The stun gun is fully capable of doing to
  cardiac muscle what it does to skeletal muscle.
  All it takes is a thoracic pathway.
  The stun gun is not designed to deliver
  self-administered shocks, with current flowing
  between two different limbs. The original
  spacing of its electrodes was supposed to
  prevent lethal  thoracic currents. The modification
  defeats this design.

  I hadn't heard of the watch battery as a means
  of committing suicide. The two electrodes are
  spaced so closely that it seems unlikely a
  microamperage would be produced outside
  the G.I. tract. Does death ensue quickly? If not,
  it may be the nasty chemicals inside the
  battery coming out.

  Incidentally, I think the AIDS pandemic in Africa
  and the ensuing suicide wave may be treatable
  and preventable, respectively. We don't hear much
  about CS and Imusil being dispensed in Africa,
  or am I wrong?

  I think the spider bite is a dreadful tragedy and
  I do not begrudge you the prospect of overcoming
  it if that is what the stun gun can do. I wish you
  the very best outcome of your heroic endeavor!
  May God speed you to a full recovery.

  Best wishes,

  Matthew


Re: CSCS for antacid? was Re: CSYeast Infection Help

2003-12-18 Thread Jonathan B. Britten

Ode,

Beats me, really;  I can say, though,  that a few gulps of CS had the 
effect I described.The effect was rather fast,  much better than 
conventional antacids.   Bit of a puzzle. . . .





On Thursday, Dec 18, 2003, at 21:05 Asia/Tokyo, Ode Coyote wrote:




  Probably more complicted than this...but..
 If you make silver chloride from salt, it leaves sodium behind, which
combines with water to make sodium hydroxide...which will neutralize 
acid.
 Seems to me that it would take a heck of a lot of CS to do anything 
much.

 Eating a piece of chalk oughta work better [Tums]
 Or mabe there's an acid producing micro organizm or enzyme at work?
Ode

At 03:46 PM 12/18/2003 +0900, you wrote:

Paula,

We have some chemists on the list methinks.   Help from the PhDs?


JBB



On Thursday, Dec 18, 2003, at 14:36 Asia/Tokyo, sol wrote:


Jonathan,
  I recently had an attack (very rare for me these days) of acid,
burning, etc, and CS worked to stop the pain. I thought about taking
some probiotic, or antacid, but decided to try CS first.it
really did work. I have  fewer ideas than you about why this would be
so. As you say, it is interesting though.
paula
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From: Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp



Odd coincidence that you report CS useful as an anti-diarrheal;   I
found, quite by accident,  that it seems to work as an antacid!

I have no idea what the mechanism could be,  but after finding, by
chance, that a gulp of CS remedied late-night acid reflux (from
overeating),  I have tried several times since then, with the same
result.

I am just guessing that if, as some claim, ionic silver forms silver
chloride in vivo,  then the silver chloride has the chemical

property

of neutralizing acids.   I am not a chemist so this is just a guess.
As for the effect you describe,  I just do not know.   Neither

effect

would seem related to the anti-microbial properties of CS.





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RE: CSTooth Paste Suggestion

2003-12-18 Thread James Holmes
How does CS neutralize F?

JOH

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From: Richard Harris [mailto:yr...@cfl.rr.com] 
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 1:00 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Cc: Richard Harris
Subject: RE: CSTooth Paste Suggestion


Congratulations, Wayne, on your patient persistence and saving $$$!

I read the bit about using CS after each Fluoride brushing to neutralize the
Fl Poisoning--was grateful for the info.

Hope you're continually improving--please bring us up to date as to what you
used that you feel did the trick. Best regards, Richard Harris, 56 yr FL
Pharmacist

-Original Message-
From: Wayne Fugitt [mailto:wa...@fugitt.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 1:53 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSTooth Paste Suggestion


Evening Richard,

  found that by using a mouthful of CS after each meal, after brushing
teeth (to protect from ravages of Fluoride in toothpaste), acid reflux,
gas,
indigestion and other related discomforts. Viva CS!


 Soon I will have to buy more tooth paste.  I have been using some that
was given to me and supposed to be free from any toxic chemicals.

 Problem is, the tube labeling is in Chinese.  I suppose I can fall back
to soda and salt if I don't find anything I can trust.

I did find the Ichthammol ointment you suggested at a large country drug
store for $ 2.29 per tube.
 ( 20 % )

The City stores charged over $ 6.00 for a similar but modified product.

Wayne


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Re: CSCS for antacid?

2003-12-18 Thread Jonathan B. Britten
Judging from several anecdotes that support my own,  it seems we have 
collectively found an interesting use for CS, with the mechanism quite 
uncertain. It is doubly  interesting to me because my initial 
reaction to CS was the experience of very, very unpleasant pain,  a 
dry, burning sensation so bad I thought I would not continue 
experimenting.


Whether there is any relationship I can not say.Perhaps in time we 
will develop some answers.


Cheers,


JBB







On Friday, Dec 19, 2003, at 02:02 Asia/Tokyo, mamapug wrote:



It worked for me, too! I have a lot of acid tummy, and once the only 
thing

nearby was my CS bottle. Took a swig and the burning stopped!
Marshalee



Jonathan,
  I recently had an attack (very rare for me these days) of acid,
burning, etc, and CS worked to stop the pain. I thought about taking
some probiotic, or antacid, but decided to try CS first.it
really did work. I have  fewer ideas than you about why this would be
so. As you say, it is interesting though.
paula




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Re: CSWalgreen's Personal Ultrasonic Humidifier

2003-12-18 Thread Robert Berger
At all cost avoid the root canal.!!!  I had a 4 year old root canal 
reinfect ans it wound up almost destroying my heart.
My injection feraction droipped from 57% to 20%. That is pine box level. 
It has taken 5 months to  just get a littlel head way.

Conjective herat failure  is o laughing matter.

Ole Bob

alopez...@aol.com wrote:

In a message dated 12/18/2003 8:37:23 AM Central Standard Time, 
daddybob52...@yahoo.com writes:



But if
we can't get this infection whipped soon, she'll need
that root canal.








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