Re: CSCan anyone comment on this method. what is a good tester?
- Original Message - Subject: CSCan anyone comment on this method. what is a good tester? Hi folks, well I have gotten all the material and am ready to take the plunge. I am borderline type II diabetic and have a small foot infection 6. You need two electrodes. Don't waste $15.00 for 1/4 oz. pieces of silver wire. Go to a any coin store and buy two Canadian Maple Leafs for about $6.50 ea. 9. Be sure the coin is squeaky clean. Clamp them to opposite sides of an 8 oz. glass of distilled water. 13. Run for about five hours. 14. Carefully remove the coins. There will be residue on them and you don't want that in the solution. 16. Clean the coins thoroughly preparing for the next batch -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCan anyone comment on this method. what is a good tester?
Hi, Greer, A resistor placed in series with the generator you describe will limit the current, making the process and product more uniform. It will also slow down the process, which is not a bad thing. A resistance value equal to the inter-electrode resistance (before the process begins) should work OK. It may be a mistake to discard residues as useless by-products. Instead, strain the brew through a coffee filter in a funnel. Such a coffee filter entrained with silver compounds can assist with skin infections. Some silver wire is useful even when you use silver coins as electrodes, for mounting purposes. Drill two small holes in each coin, near the periphery and diametrically opposite each other. Form silver wire into S-shaped hooks to hold the coins from the lip of the vessel. This allows the alligator clips to stay outside the vessel and away from splash from the bubbler. Best regards, Matthew -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMS Sufferer
So sorry Nancy, I do want the info .. the silver list just fills up my mail and takes me ages to clear it because I need to read every word before I delete - I dont know how to get around that one -can anybody help? I dont want to unsubscribe because I am learning so much. Marie. From: "nancymike" nancym...@prodigy.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSMS Sufferer Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 23:15:54 -0500 Marie, I have been trying to email the MS information you asked for 7 times, an it always returned to me s undeliverable.Please cotact me off list one moretime, so I can try again. Nancy - Original Message - From: Marie Hofman To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 1:48 PM Subject: CSMS Sufferer Thanks to all who helped me with advice re weaning Dave off Fluoxetine (Prozac).I have since been reading about Colloidal Gold and found many testimonials where people have used CG with no side effects to wean off Prozac. Wow! is it that simple? -- Check out news, entertainment and more on the Xtra Broadband Channel -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour Listen to music online with the Xtra Broadband Channel !
Re: CSCS and GNC Stores
That's gotta be better than the MSP they're selling now. Ode At 09:11 PM 5/2/2004 -0700, you wrote: ALPINE, UT, March 29, 2004 American Biotech Labs (ABL), a private company in which Clifton owns a 28.5% interest, has signed a contract to supply GNC [5,500 stores]with a silver supplement product under ABL's Silver Biotics label... http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/040329/ca168_1.html jr -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMS Sufferer
Make a C S folder so you can put all the mail you want to save in it. - Original Message - From: Marie Hofman To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 4:27 AM Subject: Re: CSMS Sufferer So sorry Nancy, I do want the info .. the silver list just fills up my mail and takes me ages to clear it because I need to read every word before I delete - I dont know how to get around that one -can anybody help? I dont want to unsubscribe because I am learning so much. Marie. From: nancymike nancym...@prodigy.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSMS Sufferer Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 23:15:54 -0500 Marie, I have been trying to email the MS information you asked for 7 times, an it always returned to me s undeliverable. Please cotact me off list one moretime, so I can try again. Nancy - Original Message - From: Marie Hofman To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 1:48 PM Subject: CSMS Sufferer Thanks to all who helped me with advice re weaning Dave off Fluoxetine (Prozac). I have since been reading about Colloidal Gold and found many testimonials where people have used CG with no side effects to wean off Prozac. Wow! is it that simple? -- Check out news, entertainment and more on the Xtra Broadband Channel -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour -- Listen to music online with the Xtra Broadband Channel !
Re: CSRE: CSDMSO - other side?
Hi James, Nah, the massive doses of DMSO (10 g/kg of bunny over 3 months made them slightly shortsighted but did NOT affect opacity. Also the bunnies had been used for a previous experiment involving laxative (from memory) which might have distorted the results. I'll find that and scan it. But you are probably right about the rest. Tony On 2 May 2004 at 21:31, James Holmes wrote: There was one study where massive amounts of DMSO were given to rabbits. They developed cloudy areas in the lens. No one has been able to make it happen again. Most think it is a scam to discredit a cheap and effective substance. JOH -Original Message- From: sol [mailto:sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com] Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 5:26 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSDMSO - other side? Garnet, Can you point me to any details about the ocular effects in rabbits? I use a little DMSO in my nebulizing and ear drop mix for my bunny, and sure don't want to hurt his eyes. Were those tests done actually putting DMSO into the eyes? My little guy is deaf, so he certainly doesn't need his vision impaired. paula Garnet wrote: (DMSO) It was banned for human use when it was found in the 60's to have ocular effects in rabbits, the standard lab model for eyes. Well it does not do this to primates or humans. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSRE: CSDMSO - other side?
Thanks for your valuable input, JOH Garnet, together with the other knowledgable Experts on this wonderful Site that shares helpful knowledge and information with us seekers! I read the Rabbit bit about DMSO haven't been able to find it, but seem to recall that the eye-cloudiness disappeared after discontinuing use of DMSO and the rabbits eyes returned to normal. I still maintain that DMSO was aptly and truthfully described in Pat McGrady's book, The Persecuted Drug--the Story of DMSO. I consider DMSO and CS as 2 special gifts from God that have been proven to my satisfaction to have safe special uses and abilities NOT enjoyed by any other items I know. Sincerely, Richard Harris, 56 yr FL Pharmacist -Original Message- From: James Holmes [mailto:ami...@starband.net] Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 11:31 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRE: CSDMSO - other side? There was one study where massive amounts of DMSO were given to rabbits. They developed cloudy areas in the lens. No one has been able to make it happen again. Most think it is a scam to discredit a cheap and effective substance. JOH -Original Message- From: sol [mailto:sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com] Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 5:26 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSDMSO - other side? Garnet, Can you point me to any details about the ocular effects in rabbits? I use a little DMSO in my nebulizing and ear drop mix for my bunny, and sure don't want to hurt his eyes. Were those tests done actually putting DMSO into the eyes? My little guy is deaf, so he certainly doesn't need his vision impaired. paula Garnet wrote: (DMSO) It was banned for human use when it was found in the 60's to have ocular effects in rabbits, the standard lab model for eyes. Well it does not do this to primates or humans. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPrion Party
Some people suspect it was part of the chemtrail mix. No firm evidence for that though, although plenty of proteins have been detected in it by different researchers. Marshall Ode Coyote wrote: Gee, I wonder who it was that fed pigmy cannibal brains to cows and deer in the first place? ;-) Ode At 03:24 PM 4/30/2004 -0500, you wrote: Evening Marshall, If one mad cow ended up in certain products, hundreds of thousands of people could be exposed to it. Everyone seems to think that if one eats the prion infected product, they will in fact be infected and are likely to develop spongiform tissue. If this were the case, tens of thousands of people would have died already. The case of the young female that died, after a very long illness was one of the first of its type. Typically, the time factor is much longer before the symptoms show up. I believe this story is in MC_USA, but may be someplace else. Many pages of details have been compiled about these infected subjects. I read one article detailing the forms and questions that were filled out about each person that was infected. Still, we have not been provided any worth while information about the medical and physical background of the people who develop CJD. I am not concerned with the odds of a steak, but am about something like a hot dog which may have meat from thousands of cattle in it. I can't disagree. I am concerned about the wild meat such as deer. My dad used to eat squirrel brains and I learned to like them. In later years, I would eat brains and eggs often. Risks and odds are something that is hard to rationalize due to a lifetime of eating patterns. There is one case of a scientist doing some of the type research we would like to see, and his reward was being murdered on the street. The whole world is so corrupt, so much information is suppressed and warped, all we can do is guess. Everyone needs to research and read about the top microbiologist being dying such strange deaths. I always felt this was related to world conditions such as warfare or maybe even things like mad cow. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMS Sufferer
Using it may be, but producing it is not. Marshall Marie Hofman wrote: Thanks to all who helped me with advice re weaning Dave off Fluoxetine (Prozac). I have since been reading about Colloidal Gold and found many testimonials where people have used CG with no side effects to wean off Prozac. Wow! is it that simple? --- Check out news, entertainment and more on the Xtra Broadband Channel -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CSGerms, plagues and Nostradamus
The only thing I have found effective against them is a shop vaccuum. If you find out, let me know. they are destroying my house. Marshall Ode Coyote wrote: Uh, you wouldn't happen to know the natural enemy of the carpenter bee, would you? Bad-bee-minton is fun, but not all that effective. I cultivate mud wasps because they'll fill in any hole..including fuel lines and small garden hoses. They're just not keeping up. [Maybe they made a deal with the bees...you guys get the carburators and air tools, we'll get the rafters] I've seen those little buzzers hollow out a treated 2x10 in a year or two. It ain't like they don't have a few trillion board feet of standing trees and deadfall to play with around here smack in the middle of logging country...they gotta turn my house into sawdust? CS kills bees, doesn't it? Humm... CS water next to the house but not near the flowers? Plain water near the flowers. Ode At 06:51 PM 4/30/2004 -0500, you wrote: Hi, This is a very good idea. For every right, there is a left, or anti. In the insect world, there is a stop for every insect. Although the US was aware of a natural predator for the boll weevil as far back as this has been a problem, they ignored this and spent billions on chemical warfare which is continuing today to the detriment of the birds and the bees in this area. Anyway, great idea and one I'd never thought about. Jean Baugh *** ah, but how about a predator bacteria or virus? tricky but can work. i would love to find one for the lyme bacteria. On Apr 30, 2004, at 10:30 AM, Garnet wrote: Yes you are exactly correct JBB Penicillin comes from the Penicillium mold and it kills bacteria. As well viruses infect bacteria so these microbes do fight each other. Wonder if any of them do it with Silver? Garnet On Fri, 2004-04-30 at 01:17, Jonathan B. Britten wrote: Many germs do fight one another; this is the basis of antibiotics. JBB -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSmirroring and silver ceramic water filters
I replied to an earlier copy of this message 2 or 3 times. Did you not get the earlier replies? Marshall Reid Harvey wrote: Friends, I'm hoping someone on the list, with a bent toward chemistry, could help me figure out how to reduce the silver in a ceramic filter ammoniacal silver nitrate and acetaldehyde. Apparentluy this process is identical to what is done with the production of mirrors. But all I have to go by is the four constituents: silver nitrate, ammonia and acetaldehye. I do not know (even roughly) the amounts of each of these. or the steps to follow. Can someone please tell me, even approximately? I do know that after this reduction of the silver it's important that the kiln firing be in reduced oxygen, in order to get silver metal, bonded to the ceramic. This is great, the silver metal perhaps ten times more effective at killing pathogens than is the case, were I to use colloidal silver, ending up with silver oxide within the medium. Also, why is the reduction necessary prior to the firing? Why not just saturate with silver nitrate, then let the reduction happen in the firing? Thanks! Reid -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSilver In Horse Bandages
Are you sure the pony has allergies? I am sure I have read that the only animals that get allergies are humans and monkeys. Marshall Sharon wrote: Hey guys, A while back I saw a post on MSM for allergies, and I'd like to know if you think it might be helpful to a pony with allergies, and if so how much of it can I safely give a 600lb pony? I'm giving her CS too, and at one point was going to try to nebulize the CS but never got a chance to build some sort of bag to neb her with. TIA for any ideas. PS she's already somewhat grey so I doubt I would notice any changes due to CS if there were any. Sharon Hi, We've been giving our senior horse a quart a day for a couple of years as a preventive measure. He's still the original color. Trem - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 8:48 AM Subject: [silver_list] Re: CSSilver In Horse Bandages First of all, if they are talking about true CS, then argyria has never been known to cause it in anyone or anything. In fact theory predicts that true CS will help prevent argyria if taken with silver compounds that would have caused it otherwise. But even if it did, it seems to me the choice between a gray horse and a dead horse should be easy to make. I would think that dressing the wound with cloth saturated with CS and changed fairly often would be a good start. Also the addition of some DMSO to the mix would also likely assist. Remember that preventing an infection by putting CS on a wound is only part of the story. The other part is that the ionic portion promotes healing without scaring by triggering injured cells, and cells in a blood clot to revert back to stem cells. Marshall Garnet wrote: I have been discussing CS on a horse forum that I am on and some are very skeptical due to Argyria info they turn up on searches, but many are interested. Horse folks want to know what really works and will be easy, inexpensive and keep wounds below the knee from forming Proud Flesh, a common occurrence in slow healing wounds. I will be posting this information there this morning. It will be interesting to see how this cross section of humanity from Dressage Queens to Outback Sheep Herders reacts to this product. Garnet ~ Equus May 2004 in their New Products section lists VetAg Wrap. Antimicrobial wound dressings. A thin stretchable fabric made of medical-grade-nylon coated with 99 percent pure silver, these wraps are designed to inhibit bacterial growth in pressure sores, burns, abrasions and other open wounds without the use of drugs. The dressing is placed directly over cleaned wound, with or without an over lying bandage. The VetAg Wrap may be removed while the wound is cleaned, then rinsed in water and reapplied, but it needs to be disposed of once the wound has healed. The dressings come in three sizes and can be cut to fit. Manufacturers comments: 'Silver salve has been used on burn victims for years, and historically, it was used before penicillin was invented', says Marty Emrich, sales and marketing representative for Berlin Industries. 'The silver has been known to have antimicrobial properties for up to 28 days.' Price $9.50 for a four fy four inch pad; $15.99 for an eight by sixteen inch pad; $19.95 for a four by twenty four inch pad. Source: Berlin Industries, PO Box 215, Berlin, Center, Ohio 44401; (800) 544-3635; www.selectfabricators inc.com. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOde: how to get rid of wood boring bumblebees!
In a message dated 5/2/04 8:24:45 PM EST, daddybob52...@yahoo.com writes: Right after dark, shoot the holes full of Goof Off in a spray can. What's Goof Off? I've never heard of that. MA -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSilver In Horse Bandages
Quecertin Complex and Nettles help me with my pollen allergies. Nettles is something that a horse could eat fresh if it grows in their pasture, but might skip since it stings. Dried it makes a tea that is actually a treatment for the stings. This may be a little further out, but you can do EFT Tapping of accupuncture points on yourself for her, while touching her, for the allergies. www.emofree.com has a free manual. And details of surrogate tapping. Anything that supports the liver will help the immune system. Also if her thyroid is off it can cause immune deficiencies. Glucagon and Colostrum supplements are also very immune boosting. There are some homeopathic tree allergy remedies by Dolisos that are tinctures. Oh and if she is getting any carbohydrates like oats or other grains, that can be a problem for some horses. The Equine Cushings list on Yahoo is a good discussion list for more info on this and the possible fall out from sensitivity, even if there is no Cushings. Garnet On Sun, 2004-05-02 at 23:39, Sharon wrote: Yes MSM would be good for the pony. 2 Tablespoons twice a day, 4 T a day is not a high dose, if the effect is not enough with 2-4 go higher. Humans can take 2-8 grams a day so by weight a pony can take much more, probably 7 times that. It takes about a month to see an effect so be patient. I give it to my pony and horses. Seameal from www.solidgoldhealth.com is also excellent as well as Black Oil Sunflower seeds with the hull for trace minerals and macro minerals that are very important to health. Do not use the grey stripe seeds as the hulls are not water soluble fiber and not as good. Buy the BOSS for wild birds. Wal Mart has them for a good price in 25# bags. Hey thanks Garnet! I will head out tomorrow to get her some. I noticed she is having more troub;e breathing again, something she has problems with must be in bloom. Unfortunately for her she has about 22 different allergies. Several are trees common in this area. Someone else told me today she is convinced that allergies are just the result of an immune system out of balance, so the POA needs nutritional support to bring back the immune system. I figure CS could only help with that. Sharon Garnet On Sun, 2004-05-02 at 11:10, Sharon wrote: Hey guys, A while back I saw a post on MSM for allergies, and I'd like to know if you think it might be helpful to a pony with allergies, and if so how much of it can I safely give a 600lb pony? I'm giving her CS too, and at one point was going to try to nebulize the CS but never got a chance to build some sort of bag to neb her with. TIA for any ideas. PS she's already somewhat grey so I doubt I would notice any changes due to CS if there were any. Sharon Hi, We've been giving our senior horse a quart a day for a couple of years as a preventive measure. He's still the original color. Trem - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 8:48 AM Subject: [silver_list] Re: CSSilver In Horse Bandages First of all, if they are talking about true CS, then argyria has never been known to cause it in anyone or anything. In fact theory predicts that true CS will help prevent argyria if taken with silver compounds that would have caused it otherwise. But even if it did, it seems to me the choice between a gray horse and a dead horse should be easy to make. I would think that dressing the wound with cloth saturated with CS and changed fairly often would be a good start. Also the addition of some DMSO to the mix would also likely assist. Remember that preventing an infection by putting CS on a wound is only part of the story. The other part is that the ionic portion promotes healing without scaring by triggering injured cells, and cells in a blood clot to revert back to stem cells. Marshall Garnet wrote: I have been discussing CS on a horse forum that I am on and some are very skeptical due to Argyria info they turn up on searches, but many are interested. Horse folks want to know what really works and will be easy, inexpensive and keep wounds below the knee from forming Proud Flesh, a common occurrence in slow healing wounds. I will be posting this information there this morning. It will be interesting to see how this cross section of humanity from Dressage Queens to Outback Sheep Herders reacts to this product. Garnet ~ Equus May 2004 in their New Products section lists VetAg Wrap. Antimicrobial wound dressings. A thin stretchable fabric made of medical-grade-nylon coated with 99 percent pure silver, these wraps are designed
Re: CSOde: how to get rid of wood boring bumblebees!
It is a pretty wicked brew of hydrocarbons and alcohols that is used for removing things like glue. You can get it at Home Depot. Marshall marmar...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 5/2/04 8:24:45 PM EST, daddybob52...@yahoo.com writes: Right after dark, shoot the holes full of Goof Off in a spray can. What's Goof Off? I've never heard of that. MA -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAverage Dietary Intake of Silver
Garnet, Do you remember how it gets into the diet, i.e., from what foods or was it water? Thanks in advance, Cindy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOther colloidals
The Hatzfeld's wrote: Reading about Colloidal Gold brought up a couple of questions: 1. Everyone here (obviously) uses colloidal silver, but what about the other colloidal metals - gold, copper, platinum, zinc (are there more?) ???2. If you're making your own silver, can you just as easily make these other colloidal metals?3. How come some websites tell you what the benefits are (of the colloidal metals) but on other sites they claim they've been told by the FDA to NOT list any benefits? The most likely difference is whether the web site sells CS or the generators or not. The FDA uses the FTC to do their harrassment and can only go after those sites that sell something, the others are still covered by freedom of speech for a while anyway. Basically from what I can tell, the FTC will prosecute anyone who sells CS or the generators and tells the truth about what it can do. They have no complaints though it seems about lies, you just can't be truthful about it. Gold CG cannot be made using the low voltage DC method, despite what one or two others have claimed here. I have made what I thought was copper CS using the same techinque as with silver, but I think someone here reported that they were unsuccessful with copper. Marshall
Re: CSRE: CSDMSO - other side?
From: DMSO Nature's Miracle by Walker 5 mg/kg for 90 days caused refractive index changes but not lens opacity, the animals became slightly nearsighted at a dose 50-100 times that the usual human therapeutic dose. The problem diminished as the dose was reduced. The tests on primates showed none of these effects and seems limited to rabbits, dogs and pigs at high doses. DMSO Nature's Miracle by Walker pp79 No changes in refraction or translucense of the lens or any other abnormalities were noted in any animal [primates] before, druing or 18 weeks after any drug administration. Dr JC de la Torre, Department of Neurosurgery (r-35), Univeristy of Miami School of Medicine, PI Box 076960 Miami, FA 33101. Reprint available. Journal of Toxicology and Environmental Health Vol 7, March 1981 It seems that in extremely high doses for prolonger periods dogs, pigs and rabbits may show some changes. But these dosages are not therapeutic and no such effects were seen in primates or humans. Even the changes in rabbits, known to be very sensitive and therefore the model for such experiments, were only found at very high doses for many months. Garnet On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 07:24, Tony Moody wrote: Hi James, Nah, the massive doses of DMSO (10 g/kg of bunny over 3 months made them slightly shortsighted but did NOT affect opacity. Also the bunnies had been used for a previous experiment involving laxative (from memory) which might have distorted the results. I'll find that and scan it. But you are probably right about the rest. Tony On 2 May 2004 at 21:31, James Holmes wrote: There was one study where massive amounts of DMSO were given to rabbits. They developed cloudy areas in the lens. No one has been able to make it happen again. Most think it is a scam to discredit a cheap and effective substance. JOH -Original Message- From: sol [mailto:sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com] Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 5:26 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSDMSO - other side? Garnet, Can you point me to any details about the ocular effects in rabbits? I use a little DMSO in my nebulizing and ear drop mix for my bunny, and sure don't want to hurt his eyes. Were those tests done actually putting DMSO into the eyes? My little guy is deaf, so he certainly doesn't need his vision impaired. paula Garnet wrote: (DMSO) It was banned for human use when it was found in the 60's to have ocular effects in rabbits, the standard lab model for eyes. Well it does not do this to primates or humans. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSilver In Horse Bandages
My mare has seasonal allergies, more so when she was younger. Some of my dogs also have flea bite and food allergies. Garnet On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 10:03, Marshall Dudley wrote: Are you sure the pony has allergies? I am sure I have read that the only animals that get allergies are humans and monkeys. Marshall Sharon wrote: Hey guys, A while back I saw a post on MSM for allergies, and I'd like to know if you think it might be helpful to a pony with allergies, and if so how much of it can I safely give a 600lb pony? I'm giving her CS too, and at one point was going to try to nebulize the CS but never got a chance to build some sort of bag to neb her with. TIA for any ideas. PS she's already somewhat grey so I doubt I would notice any changes due to CS if there were any. Sharon Hi, We've been giving our senior horse a quart a day for a couple of years as a preventive measure. He's still the original color. Trem - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 8:48 AM Subject: [silver_list] Re: CSSilver In Horse Bandages First of all, if they are talking about true CS, then argyria has never been known to cause it in anyone or anything. In fact theory predicts that true CS will help prevent argyria if taken with silver compounds that would have caused it otherwise. But even if it did, it seems to me the choice between a gray horse and a dead horse should be easy to make. I would think that dressing the wound with cloth saturated with CS and changed fairly often would be a good start. Also the addition of some DMSO to the mix would also likely assist. Remember that preventing an infection by putting CS on a wound is only part of the story. The other part is that the ionic portion promotes healing without scaring by triggering injured cells, and cells in a blood clot to revert back to stem cells. Marshall Garnet wrote: I have been discussing CS on a horse forum that I am on and some are very skeptical due to Argyria info they turn up on searches, but many are interested. Horse folks want to know what really works and will be easy, inexpensive and keep wounds below the knee from forming Proud Flesh, a common occurrence in slow healing wounds. I will be posting this information there this morning. It will be interesting to see how this cross section of humanity from Dressage Queens to Outback Sheep Herders reacts to this product. Garnet ~ Equus May 2004 in their New Products section lists VetAg Wrap. Antimicrobial wound dressings. A thin stretchable fabric made of medical-grade-nylon coated with 99 percent pure silver, these wraps are designed to inhibit bacterial growth in pressure sores, burns, abrasions and other open wounds without the use of drugs. The dressing is placed directly over cleaned wound, with or without an over lying bandage. The VetAg Wrap may be removed while the wound is cleaned, then rinsed in water and reapplied, but it needs to be disposed of once the wound has healed. The dressings come in three sizes and can be cut to fit. Manufacturers comments: 'Silver salve has been used on burn victims for years, and historically, it was used before penicillin was invented', says Marty Emrich, sales and marketing representative for Berlin Industries. 'The silver has been known to have antimicrobial properties for up to 28 days.' Price $9.50 for a four fy four inch pad; $15.99 for an eight by sixteen inch pad; $19.95 for a four by twenty four inch pad. Source: Berlin Industries, PO Box 215, Berlin, Center, Ohio 44401; (800) 544-3635; www.selectfabricators inc.com. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSGerms, plagues and Nostradamus
In a message dated 5/2/04 8:43:31 PM EST, hollandsi...@charter.net writes: Get some masking tapee and cicle the trunk of the citrus tree and put a band of 'tanglefoot on the tape Would this prevent borers from killing my young trees? MA (P.S. What is *tanglefoot*?) -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSwas Silver In Horse Bandages/Pony allergies
Garnet wrote: Oh and if she is getting any carbohydrates like oats or other grains, that can be a problem for some horses. The Equine Cushings list on Yahoo is a good discussion list for more info on this and the possible fall out from sensitivity, even if there is no Cushings. Whoa, I've never heard this... She does get oats but not that much. I suppose any will produce a reaction though. Whew. Yet another list to join.! Thanks Garnet and all who answered, lots of good info to try with her. Hopefully something works. She is the kind of pony you would go to great lengths to help. Very good with the kids. Sharon -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSMS Sufferer
Hi Nancy, I'm sure many if us are in your same pickle--One of this Site members contributors recently offered a file system that can help each of us a lot if studied applied. Look back in the archives and find some excellent ideas info from Wayne Fugitt. If I can be of help, let me know. Sincerely, Richard Harris, 56 yr FL Pharmacist -Original Message- From: Marie Hofman [mailto:marie_hof...@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 4:27 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSMS Sufferer So sorry Nancy, I do want the info .. the silver list just fills up my mail and takes me ages to clear it because I need to read every word before I delete - I dont know how to get around that one -can anybody help? I dont want to unsubscribe because I am learning so much. Marie. From: nancymike nancym...@prodigy.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSMS Sufferer Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 23:15:54 -0500 Marie, I have been trying to email the MS information you asked for 7 times, an it always returned to me s undeliverable. Please cotact me off list one moretime, so I can try again. Nancy - Original Message - From: Marie Hofman To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 1:48 PM Subject: CSMS Sufferer Thanks to all who helped me with advice re weaning Dave off Fluoxetine (Prozac). I have since been reading about Colloidal Gold and found many testimonials where people have used CG with no side effects to wean off Prozac. Wow! is it that simple? --- --- Check out news, entertainment and more on the Xtra Broadband Channel -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour -- Listen to music online with the Xtra Broadband Channel !
Re: CSSilver In Horse Bandages
The vet drew blood and sent it in for an IgE test. I am pretty sure it indicates allergies...At least that's what the vet said. At first the diagnosis was COPD. Sharon Are you sure the pony has allergies? I am sure I have read that the only animals that get allergies are humans and monkeys. Marshall Sharon wrote: Hey guys, A while back I saw a post on MSM for allergies, and I'd like to know if you think it might be helpful to a pony with allergies, and if so how much of it can I safely give a 600lb pony? I'm giving her CS too, and at one point was going to try to nebulize the CS but never got a chance to build some sort of bag to neb her with. TIA for any ideas. PS she's already somewhat grey so I doubt I would notice any changes due to CS if there were any. Sharon Hi, We've been giving our senior horse a quart a day for a couple of years as a preventive measure. He's still the original color. Trem - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 8:48 AM Subject: [silver_list] Re: CSSilver In Horse Bandages First of all, if they are talking about true CS, then argyria has never been known to cause it in anyone or anything. In fact theory predicts that true CS will help prevent argyria if taken with silver compounds that would have caused it otherwise. But even if it did, it seems to me the choice between a gray horse and a dead horse should be easy to make. I would think that dressing the wound with cloth saturated with CS and changed fairly often would be a good start. Also the addition of some DMSO to the mix would also likely assist. Remember that preventing an infection by putting CS on a wound is only part of the story. The other part is that the ionic portion promotes healing without scaring by triggering injured cells, and cells in a blood clot to revert back to stem cells. Marshall Garnet wrote: I have been discussing CS on a horse forum that I am on and some are very skeptical due to Argyria info they turn up on searches, but many are interested. Horse folks want to know what really works and will be easy, inexpensive and keep wounds below the knee from forming Proud Flesh, a common occurrence in slow healing wounds. I will be posting this information there this morning. It will be interesting to see how this cross section of humanity from Dressage Queens to Outback Sheep Herders reacts to this product. Garnet ~ Equus May 2004 in their New Products section lists VetAg Wrap. Antimicrobial wound dressings. A thin stretchable fabric made of medical-grade-nylon coated with 99 percent pure silver, these wraps are designed to inhibit bacterial growth in pressure sores, burns, abrasions and other open wounds without the use of drugs. The dressing is placed directly over cleaned wound, with or without an over lying bandage. The VetAg Wrap may be removed while the wound is cleaned, then rinsed in water and reapplied, but it needs to be disposed of once the wound has healed. The dressings come in three sizes and can be cut to fit. Manufacturers comments: 'Silver salve has been used on burn victims for years, and historically, it was used before penicillin was invented', says Marty Emrich, sales and marketing representative for Berlin Industries. 'The silver has been known to have antimicrobial properties for up to 28 days.' Price $9.50 for a four fy four inch pad; $15.99 for an eight by sixteen inch pad; $19.95 for a four by twenty four inch pad. Source: Berlin Industries, PO Box 215, Berlin, Center, Ohio 44401; (800) 544-3635; www.selectfabricators inc.com. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAverage Dietary Intake of Silver
They did not mention this in the book. It is a natural constituent of the Earth's crust, ocurring at a concentration of 0.07 ppm according to John Emsley's book Elements. Garnet On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 10:37, The Hatzfeld's wrote: Garnet, Do you remember how it gets into the diet, i.e., from what foods or was it water? Thanks in advance, Cindy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSWAS: Silver In Horse Bandages; IS: Transfer Factor
Nenah is Transfer Factor available anywhere else than a MLM set up? I do not like the financial structuing of MLMs and find the products over priced at the expense of the down lines. Also while it is true Colostrum may not be suitable for all, extracting Transfer Factor leaves out many co-factors present in Colostrum like Beta 6 lipids. Garnet On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 06:06, Nenah Sylver wrote: - Original Message - From: Sharon tala...@teleport.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 12:39 AM Subject: Re: CSSilver In Horse Bandages Hey thanks Garnet! I will head out tomorrow to get her some. I noticed she is having more troub;e breathing again, something she has problems with must be in bloom. Unfortunately for her she has about 22 different allergies. Several are trees common in this area. Someone else told me today she is convinced that allergies are just the result of an immune system out of balance, so the POA needs nutritional support to bring back the immune system. I figure CS could only help with that. Sharon Sharon, For weakness of the immune system, Transfer Factor is ideal. Transfer Factor is contained in colostrum, the thin watery fluid that is secreted by all nursing mammals 24 hours before the actual milk begins to flow. Most of the infant's immune system strength is dependent on its receiving this colostrum. It is the Transfer Factor in the colostrum that provides antibodies against disease, and which supports the T-cells and the immune system in general so that it functions properly. Allergies, as you know, result from glitches in the immune response. Transfer Factor can modulate or fix this. The isolated Transfer Factor that I take is VERY potent: 1 ounce of the Transfer Factor powder is equal in strength to 2-1/2 quarts of colostrum. I take it, my partner takes it, my customers take it, and I give it to my elderly dogs. My beloved canine friends are peppy and their coats are shiny. You can read more about Transfer Factor on http://www.nenahsylver.com/default.asp?contentID=717toplevel=598 There is an amazing amount of medical literature (articles in Lancet, etc.) on Transfer Factor -- in fact, there are almost 2,000 citations/abstracts on Medline alone. Not one researcher has anything negative to say about it. You can find the studies here http://www.livingnow.net/nenahsylver/ If it were me, I'd start giving Transfer Factor to my horse. The company that sells it (4Life) has special livestock and horse formulas that contain Transfer Factor. At least for me, a little goes a long way. You can get it wholesale from my site. Regards, Nenah Nenah Sylver, PhD *Information, products, and services related to healing* = THE HOLISTIC HANDBOOK OF SAUNA THERAPY is now available. Order this and also THE HANDBOOK OF RIFE FREQUENCY HEALING, at http://www.nenahsylver.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSWAS: Silver In Horse Bandages; IS: Transfer Factor
- Original Message - From: Garnet garnetri...@earthlink.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 1:26 PM Subject: Re: CSWAS: Silver In Horse Bandages; IS: Transfer Factor Nenah is Transfer Factor available anywhere else than a MLM set up? I do not like the financial structuing of MLMs and find the products over priced at the expense of the down lines. Also while it is true Colostrum may not be suitable for all, extracting Transfer Factor leaves out many co-factors present in Colostrum like Beta 6 lipids. Garnet Hello Garnet. I am not aware of any way to obtain Transfer Factor other than what I posted. I can understand your dislike of MLMs. However, after many years myself of having a love-hate relationship with that form of selling, I finally made my peace with it, seeing its value. (I am currently writing an article on the pros and cons of MLMs, which I will post to my website when finished.) Some people prefer colostrum, and others prefer Transfer Factor. I see a value in each. Personally, since my body reacts negatively to even good quality colostrum, I am very grateful that Transfer Factor is available. The good thing about Transfer Factor from 4Life is that at least you don't need much. Blessings, Nenah Nenah Sylver, PhD *Information, products, and services related to healing* = THE HOLISTIC HANDBOOK OF SAUNA THERAPY is now available. Order this and also THE HANDBOOK OF RIFE FREQUENCY HEALING, at http://www.nenahsylver.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSTransfer Factor
- Original Message - From: DByron laqueren...@mindspring.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 11:41 AM Subject: CSTransfer Factor Could someone explain the source of this and other colostrum products, how it is obtained from the animals, etc.? Thanks, Deborah Hi Deborah. The amount of pre-milk colostrum -- the thin watery fluid that exists as the sole liquid within the first 24 hours -- tapers off during the next few days as the normal milk flow gradually becomes stronger. By the 3rd or 4th day, there is no more colostrum and the mammal gives only milk. Lots of colostrum is produced in a dairy cow during the first 24 hours, too much for the calf to consume. So whatever the calf doesn't need is milked for human therapeutic consumption. Best, Nenah Nenah Sylver, PhD *Information, products, and services related to healing* = THE HOLISTIC HANDBOOK OF SAUNA THERAPY is now available. Order this and also THE HANDBOOK OF RIFE FREQUENCY HEALING, at http://www.nenahsylver.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSilver In Horse Bandages
Not all allergies are IgE mediated. Allergy means altered reactivity yet has come to be narrowed to IgE mediated by the majority of the medical profession. Environmental Sensitivity includes many non IgE meidated sensitivities. Sensitivity being a more accurate term. It becomes a bit mind boggling but there is information. Also see www.vitaroyal.com for Environmental Illness in horses. There is also a discussion list associated with this web site. The owner is a biochemist who specializes in EI in horses and humans. She is very helpful and you can email her directly or from her Yahoo list on Environmental Health. Garnet On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 11:58, Sharon wrote: The vet drew blood and sent it in for an IgE test. I am pretty sure it indicates allergies...At least that's what the vet said. At first the diagnosis was COPD. Sharon Are you sure the pony has allergies? I am sure I have read that the only animals that get allergies are humans and monkeys. Marshall Sharon wrote: Hey guys, A while back I saw a post on MSM for allergies, and I'd like to know if you think it might be helpful to a pony with allergies, and if so how much of it can I safely give a 600lb pony? I'm giving her CS too, and at one point was going to try to nebulize the CS but never got a chance to build some sort of bag to neb her with. TIA for any ideas. PS she's already somewhat grey so I doubt I would notice any changes due to CS if there were any. Sharon Hi, We've been giving our senior horse a quart a day for a couple of years as a preventive measure. He's still the original color. Trem - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 8:48 AM Subject: [silver_list] Re: CSSilver In Horse Bandages First of all, if they are talking about true CS, then argyria has never been known to cause it in anyone or anything. In fact theory predicts that true CS will help prevent argyria if taken with silver compounds that would have caused it otherwise. But even if it did, it seems to me the choice between a gray horse and a dead horse should be easy to make. I would think that dressing the wound with cloth saturated with CS and changed fairly often would be a good start. Also the addition of some DMSO to the mix would also likely assist. Remember that preventing an infection by putting CS on a wound is only part of the story. The other part is that the ionic portion promotes healing without scaring by triggering injured cells, and cells in a blood clot to revert back to stem cells. Marshall Garnet wrote: I have been discussing CS on a horse forum that I am on and some are very skeptical due to Argyria info they turn up on searches, but many are interested. Horse folks want to know what really works and will be easy, inexpensive and keep wounds below the knee from forming Proud Flesh, a common occurrence in slow healing wounds. I will be posting this information there this morning. It will be interesting to see how this cross section of humanity from Dressage Queens to Outback Sheep Herders reacts to this product. Garnet ~ Equus May 2004 in their New Products section lists VetAg Wrap. Antimicrobial wound dressings. A thin stretchable fabric made of medical-grade-nylon coated with 99 percent pure silver, these wraps are designed to inhibit bacterial growth in pressure sores, burns, abrasions and other open wounds without the use of drugs. The dressing is placed directly over cleaned wound, with or without an over lying bandage. The VetAg Wrap may be removed while the wound is cleaned, then rinsed in water and reapplied, but it needs to be disposed of once the wound has healed. The dressings come in three sizes and can be cut to fit. Manufacturers comments: 'Silver salve has been used on burn victims for years, and historically, it was used before penicillin was invented', says Marty Emrich, sales and marketing representative for Berlin Industries. 'The silver has been known to have antimicrobial properties for up to 28 days.' Price $9.50 for a four fy four inch pad; $15.99 for an eight by sixteen inch pad; $19.95 for a four by twenty four inch pad. Source: Berlin Industries, PO Box 215, Berlin, Center, Ohio 44401; (800) 544-3635; www.selectfabricators inc.com. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your
Re: CSMSG- a KILLER
Excitotoxins MSG, Aspartame, Hydrolyzed vegetable protein Hydrolyzed protein and loads of other names. Christine ~ From: James Holmes ami...@starband.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 21:31:13 -0600 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRE: CSMSG- a KILLER Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 20:31:08 -0700 Over 20 years ago it was determined to create sterile lesions in the brain of infants. It sux big time. It may be disguised as several different other things, such as modified food starch, natural flavoring, and other terms. Do a search for exciotixions. (SP?) Anybody know how to spell it? JOH
Re: CSMS Sufferer
Can you tell me about it? Marie. From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSMS Sufferer Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 10:03:50 -0400 Using it may be, but producing it is not. Marshall Marie Hofman wrote: Thanks to all who helped me with advice re weaning Dave off Fluoxetine (Prozac).I have since been reading about Colloidal Gold and found many testimonials where people have used CG with no side effects to wean off Prozac. Wow! is it that simple? --- Check out news, entertainment and more on the Xtra Broadband Channel -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour Theres never been a better time to get Xtra JetStream!
Re: CSTransfer Factor
Thereare a lot who oppose the cholostrum producing cows in NZ... it is Genetically Engineered. Marie. From: Garnet garnetri...@earthlink.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSTransfer Factor Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 12:21:52 -0500 Symbiotics Colostrum comes from organic cow's milk from New Zealand. My daughter's vocal coach in Nashville (high tree pollen) swears by it for all his students. Garnet On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 10:41, DByron wrote: Could someone explain the source of this and other colostrum products, how it is obtained from the animals, etc.? Thanks, Deborah -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com Theres never been a better time to get Xtra JetStream!
Re: CSTransfer Factor
Really? I thought that organic meant non GE. Garnet On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 14:50, Marie Hofman wrote: There are a lot who oppose the cholostrum producing cows in NZ ... it is Genetically Engineered. Marie. From: Garnet garnetri...@earthlink.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSTransfer Factor Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 12:21:52 -0500 Symbiotics Colostrum comes from organic cow's milk from New Zealand. My daughter's vocal coach in Nashville (high tree pollen) swears by it for all his students. Garnet On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 10:41, DByron wrote: Could someone explain the source of this and other colostrum products, how it is obtained from the animals, etc.? Thanks, Deborah -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com __ Theres never been a better time to get Xtra JetStream!
Re: CSSilver In Horse Bandages
In a message dated 5/3/04 10:39:08 AM EST, garnetri...@earthlink.net writes: Also if her thyroid is off it can cause immune deficiencies. Can you elaborate on this please? MA -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSilver In Horse Bandages
Hmm, so this means that even though we've had her IgE tested she could have other things which she is reacting to. but How to find that out? I have already paid out more in tests than I paid for the pony in the ifrst place! Also thinking of my dd who was IgE tested and we have avoided all those things for a year...so there may be more..Yikes. Mind boggling is a nice little understatement. It may take me a while to wade thru it all. One more step in the path. Thanks Garnet! Sharon Not all allergies are IgE mediated. Allergy means altered reactivity yet has come to be narrowed to IgE mediated by the majority of the medical profession. Environmental Sensitivity includes many non IgE meidated sensitivities. Sensitivity being a more accurate term. It becomes a bit mind boggling but there is information. Also see www.vitaroyal.com for Environmental Illness in horses. There is also a discussion list associated with this web site. The owner is a biochemist who specializes in EI in horses and humans. She is very helpful and you can email her directly or from her Yahoo list on Environmental Health. Garnet On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 11:58, Sharon wrote: The vet drew blood and sent it in for an IgE test. I am pretty sure it indicates allergies...At least that's what the vet said. At first the diagnosis was COPD. Sharon Are you sure the pony has allergies? I am sure I have read that the only animals that get allergies are humans and monkeys. Marshall Sharon wrote: Hey guys, A while back I saw a post on MSM for allergies, and I'd like to know if you think it might be helpful to a pony with allergies, and if so how much of it can I safely give a 600lb pony? I'm giving her CS too, and at one point was going to try to nebulize the CS but never got a chance to build some sort of bag to neb her with. TIA for any ideas. PS she's already somewhat grey so I doubt I would notice any changes due to CS if there were any. Sharon Hi, We've been giving our senior horse a quart a day for a couple of years as a preventive measure. He's still the original color. Trem - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 8:48 AM Subject: [silver_list] Re: CSSilver In Horse Bandages First of all, if they are talking about true CS, then argyria has never been known to cause it in anyone or anything. In fact theory predicts that true CS will help prevent argyria if taken with silver compounds that would have caused it otherwise. But even if it did, it seems to me the choice between a gray horse and a dead horse should be easy to make. I would think that dressing the wound with cloth saturated with CS and changed fairly often would be a good start. Also the addition of some DMSO to the mix would also likely assist. Remember that preventing an infection by putting CS on a wound is only part of the story. The other part is that the ionic portion promotes healing without scaring by triggering injured cells, and cells in a blood clot to revert back to stem cells. Marshall Garnet wrote: I have been discussing CS on a horse forum that I am on and some are very skeptical due to Argyria info they turn up on searches, but many are interested. Horse folks want to know what really works and will be easy, inexpensive and keep wounds below the knee from forming Proud Flesh, a common occurrence in slow healing wounds. I will be posting this information there this morning. It will be interesting to see how this cross section of humanity from Dressage Queens to Outback Sheep Herders reacts to this product. Garnet ~ Equus May 2004 in their New Products section lists VetAg Wrap. Antimicrobial wound dressings. A thin stretchable fabric made of medical-grade-nylon coated with 99 percent pure silver, these wraps are designed to inhibit bacterial growth in pressure sores, burns, abrasions and other open wounds without the use of drugs. The dressing is placed directly over cleaned wound, with or without an over lying bandage. The VetAg Wrap may be removed while the wound is cleaned, then rinsed in water and reapplied, but it needs to be disposed of once the wound has healed. The dressings come in three sizes and can be cut to fit. Manufacturers comments: 'Silver salve has been used on burn victims for years, and historically, it was used before penicillin was invented', says Marty Emrich, sales and marketing representative for Berlin Industries. 'The silver has been known to have antimicrobial properties for up to 28 days.'
Re: CSOde: how to get rid of wood boring bumblebees!
In a message dated 5/3/04 11:17:55 AM Central Daylight Time, mdud...@king-cart.com writes: It is a pretty wicked brew of hydrocarbons and alcohols that is used for removing things like glue. You can get it at Home Depot. Thanks Marshall -- I'll look for it. MA
Re: CSGerms, plagues and Nostradamus
In a message dated 5/3/04 11:47:18 AM Central Daylight Time, hollandsi...@charter.net writes: If the borer beetles are coming up from debree and or the soil---yes,tanglefoot would stop them.If the beetles are flying in then---No. H -- I don't know where the heck they're coming from. All I know is that for the past 18 years, every damn tree that I plant dies from borers attacking it. And I feed them well, water them in drought and spray for borers the way the nursery tells me to. I've got two young Kwanzan Cherries dying in the front yard right now. They replaced two Dogwoods. Which replaced two Dogwoods. Ad infinitum. Borers have also badly damaged two young Maple trees, and my cherry (producing) tree. I'm SO disgusted. This year I tried Diamataceous Earth for the first time. Don't know if it's working or not. Unfortunately, I find out if the product is (not) working by the tree dying the following year. :-(Thanks for the info. MA
CSColostrum
Hi, Colostrum is usually a VERY thick, yellowish color; sometimes to the point of looking like butter. It will gradually convert over a few days to regular looking milk. The first colostrum has all the antibodies, all the beneficial special fat the newborn needs, or a perfect food if left raw. If you try to pasteurize colostrum you will end up with a thick pudding you can cut with a knife like cheese. I give my Mother all the 1st and 2nd goat colostrum I can spare. Jean Baugh *** Could someone explain the source of this and other colostrum products, how it is obtained from the animals, etc.? Thanks, Deborah -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSilver In Horse Bandages
If the Thyroid is not functioning well nothing functions well. It regulates basic metabolic rate. Try a serach on hypothyroidism. Also check www.mercola.com Garnet On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 16:09, marmar...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 5/3/04 10:39:08 AM EST, garnetri...@earthlink.net writes: Also if her thyroid is off it can cause immune deficiencies. Can you elaborate on this please? MA -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSGerms, plagues and Nostradamus
What are you fertillizing with? Was the area in softwoods or hardwoods before clearing? Do you mulch these trees? Are you planting at the ground level of the pot or deeper? Are you creating a moat around the young tree to get good saturation? Are you using a weed and Feed fertillizer on your lawn? What do you use to fertillize;a.your lawn,b.your trees. What is the pH of your soil? It is odd that dogwoods(Crnus florida) could be 'bored' as they are toxic to most bugs.,or--- are they some asian types? Did you buy locally?What zone are you in? Were they planted near other more mature trees? What are these trees? How far away are you trying to plant from other trees?Do you loosen the rootball before planting? If I were selling you a tree to plant I would ask these things knowing the history of your attempts and not knowing I would try to ask most of this If I were your nursery person,I would have tried to get to the bottom of things after the first one.Do you see sawdust around the tree or little chunks?Do you plant the trees when they are active or dormant? Feel free to write directly.Holland In a message dated 5/3/04 11:47:18 AM Central Daylight Time, hollandsi...@charter.net writes: If the borer beetles are coming up from debree and or the soil---yes,tanglefoot would stop them.If the beetles are flying in then---No. H -- I don't know where the heck they're coming from. All I know is that for the past 18 years, every damn tree that I plant dies from borers attacking it. And I feed them well, water them in drought and spray for borers the way the nursery tells me to. I've got two young Kwanzan Cherries dying in the front yard right now. They replaced two Dogwoods. Which replaced two Dogwoods. Ad infinitum. Borers have also badly damaged two young Maple trees, and my cherry (producing) tree. I'm SO disgusted. This year I tried Diamataceous Earth for the first time. Don't know if it's working or not. Unfortunately, I find out if the product is (not) working by the tree dying the following year. :-( Thanks for the info. MA -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSGerms, plagues and Nostradamus
BT works on caterpillars(moth and butterflies) and BT israelinsis works on mosquito larvae.The borers are beetles and the damage is done by the beetle larvae chewing around in the cambium layer of the tree destroying the actual growing layer.The poison of choice is Lindane which is the last chlorinated hydrocarbon not to be banned(related to DDT).An oil dormant spray may help and is not toxic per se.Woodpeckers are attracted to borer larvae as food but the underlying problem is the lack of health in the tree.Borers are just a symptom of something else going on.Healthy unstressed trees do not get borers or other problems.The bugs are natures way of beginning the breakdown and recycling to come. Everything stats with the health of the soil.I would start with the soil when I plant anything.If the soil is good environment for earthworms it will be good for a tree.pH of soil should have pH around 5.5-6.5.It should have good drainage.Should have organic matter,clay colloid,loam,loam.SulPoMag is a good start up fertillizer and I like using som colloidalPhosphate or rock Phosphate.If no SulPoMag use Sulphate of Potash and some epsonsalt about a half cup of each mixed in,acouple cups of rotted chicken manure is good too.---Holland I wonder if bacillus thuringer would kill them. Very nice bionic control if it does, and you only have to apply once. Marshall marmar...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 5/3/04 11:47:18 AM Central Daylight Time, hollandsi...@charter.net writes: If the borer beetles are coming up from debree and or the soil---yes,tanglefoot would stop them.If the beetles are flying in then---No. H -- I don't know where the heck they're coming from. All I know is that for the past 18 years, every damn tree that I plant dies from borers attacking it. And I feed them well, water them in drought and spray for borers the way the nursery tells me to. I've got two young Kwanzan Cherries dying in the front yard right now. They replaced two Dogwoods. Which replaced two Dogwoods. Ad infinitum. Borers have also badly damaged two young Maple trees, and my cherry (producing) tree. I'm SO disgusted. This year I tried Diamataceous Earth for the first time. Don't know if it's working or not. Unfortunately, I find out if the product is (not) working by the tree dying the following year. :-(Thanks for the info. MA -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSTransfer Factor
Garnet, I understand GW quickly pushed through a bill on behalf of the poultry business who complained that feeding foul grain was too expensive. Effectively the bill changed the definition of 'organic' to mean a percentage - something like 90% or 95% is 'natural' (another abused word), and that they could have supplements in the food for the foul - I believe that means 'anti-biotics' with who knows what? BuSH language is different from the English language I learned as a child - feels like I am having to inquire about the new meanings of words - guess that shows my age. Sorry, I don't have a reference, but it happen within the past 6 months. Christine From: Garnet garnetri...@earthlink.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 13:06:11 -0700 Really? I thought that organic meant non GE. Garnet ~ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSRE: CSDMSO - other side?
Hello Tony, Perhaps there were two studies. JOH -Original Message- From: Tony Moody [mailto:a...@new.co.za] Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 6:25 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRE: CSDMSO - other side? Hi James, Nah, the massive doses of DMSO (10 g/kg of bunny over 3 months made them slightly shortsighted but did NOT affect opacity. Also the bunnies had been used for a previous experiment involving laxative (from memory) which might have distorted the results. I'll find that and scan it. But you are probably right about the rest. Tony On 2 May 2004 at 21:31, James Holmes wrote: There was one study where massive amounts of DMSO were given to rabbits. They developed cloudy areas in the lens. No one has been able to make it happen again. Most think it is a scam to discredit a cheap and effective substance. JOH -Original Message- From: sol [mailto:sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com] Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 5:26 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSDMSO - other side? Garnet, Can you point me to any details about the ocular effects in rabbits? I use a little DMSO in my nebulizing and ear drop mix for my bunny, and sure don't want to hurt his eyes. Were those tests done actually putting DMSO into the eyes? My little guy is deaf, so he certainly doesn't need his vision impaired. paula Garnet wrote: (DMSO) It was banned for human use when it was found in the 60's to have ocular effects in rabbits, the standard lab model for eyes. Well it does not do this to primates or humans. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSRE: CSDMSO - other side?
Seems like osmotic pressure may have distorted the eyeball. I wonder if they were monitoring intraocular pressures? JOH -Original Message- From: Garnet [mailto:garnetri...@earthlink.net] Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 9:54 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRE: CSDMSO - other side? From: DMSO Nature's Miracle by Walker 5 mg/kg for 90 days caused refractive index changes but not lens opacity, the animals became slightly nearsighted at a dose 50-100 times that the usual human therapeutic dose. The problem diminished as the dose was reduced. The tests on primates showed none of these effects and seems limited to rabbits, dogs and pigs at high doses. DMSO Nature's Miracle by Walker pp79 No changes in refraction or translucense of the lens or any other abnormalities were noted in any animal [primates] before, druing or 18 weeks after any drug administration. Dr JC de la Torre, Department of Neurosurgery (r-35), Univeristy of Miami School of Medicine, PI Box 076960 Miami, FA 33101. Reprint available. Journal of Toxicology and Environmental Health Vol 7, March 1981 It seems that in extremely high doses for prolonger periods dogs, pigs and rabbits may show some changes. But these dosages are not therapeutic and no such effects were seen in primates or humans. Even the changes in rabbits, known to be very sensitive and therefore the model for such experiments, were only found at very high doses for many months. Garnet On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 07:24, Tony Moody wrote: Hi James, Nah, the massive doses of DMSO (10 g/kg of bunny over 3 months made them slightly shortsighted but did NOT affect opacity. Also the bunnies had been used for a previous experiment involving laxative (from memory) which might have distorted the results. I'll find that and scan it. But you are probably right about the rest. Tony On 2 May 2004 at 21:31, James Holmes wrote: There was one study where massive amounts of DMSO were given to rabbits. They developed cloudy areas in the lens. No one has been able to make it happen again. Most think it is a scam to discredit a cheap and effective substance. JOH -Original Message- From: sol [mailto:sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com] Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 5:26 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSDMSO - other side? Garnet, Can you point me to any details about the ocular effects in rabbits? I use a little DMSO in my nebulizing and ear drop mix for my bunny, and sure don't want to hurt his eyes. Were those tests done actually putting DMSO into the eyes? My little guy is deaf, so he certainly doesn't need his vision impaired. paula Garnet wrote: (DMSO) It was banned for human use when it was found in the 60's to have ocular effects in rabbits, the standard lab model for eyes. Well it does not do this to primates or humans. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSDMSO - other side?
Over the years I have read several accounts of research projects that part way through, were obviously not going to produce the desired results. The funding was cut, the research work done so far was seized, and the researcher was discredited by paid shills. Careers are ruined by this method. The a study can be designed to produce desired results; they do this. JOH -Original Message- From: Christine Carleton [mailto:essential-liv...@telus.net] Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 11:38 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSDMSO - other side? I concur. They did something similar with essential oils in England. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSBorer beetles
MA, Have you looked into 'Companion Gardening'? There are plants that protect other plants from their predators. They will get the job done naturally. Check out Findhorn Garden in Northern Scotland whose community wrote a book about their successes which the esteemed British Horological Staff had said was impossible to grow in their North Ocean coastal environmental conditions. Other groups have followed with their own advise about companion gardening - probably in a region close to your environmental challenges. Christine From: marmar...@aol.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 19:53:20 EDT To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSGerms, plagues and Nostradamus Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 16:53:31 -0700 In a message dated 5/3/04 11:47:18 AM Central Daylight Time, hollandsi...@charter.net writes: If the borer beetles are coming up from debree and or the soil---yes,tanglefoot would stop them.If the beetles are flying in then---No. H -- I don't know where the heck they're coming from. All I know is that for the past 18 years, every damn tree that I plant dies from borers attacking it. And I feed them well, water them in drought and spray for borers the way the nursery tells me to. I've got two young Kwanzan Cherries dying in the front yard right now. They replaced two Dogwoods. Which replaced two Dogwoods. Ad infinitum. Borers have also badly damaged two young Maple trees, and my cherry (producing) tree. I'm SO disgusted. This year I tried Diamataceous Earth for the first time. Don't know if it's working or not. Unfortunately, I find out if the product is (not) working by the tree dying the following year. :-(Thanks for the info. MA
Re: CSWhat's Goof Off?
Goof off has some citrus solvent oil in it ,I believe.That stuff will desole polycarbonate and eat silksreen bottle lables off.In the early 70's before the citrus concentrate plants got a market for this 'waste' they used to blow it out of the stack of their fractioning towers.In the mid 70's I had a couple of gallons of the pure stuff.50-50 with water it would gel up and look like GoJo hand cleaner.You could get dry enamel paint off with it.I would take about a table spoon of that and throw it in a blender with a pint of water and spray cockroaches with it and it would disolve the waxes and chiten in the back of the roaches and turn them white.Using the blender the stuff started disolving the little polycarbonate measuring plu in the cap of the blender.I diluted one ounce of this blend in another pint and it still killed I did this progressively ten dilutions diluting the previous dilution.The final dilution still killed the roaches in 1.5 seconds only slowing it down to where you could see the action run down the back of the roach.These were superroaches that were living in a drum where a bag of chlordane was kept and the roaches had eaten the bag off the chlordane.Yeah-any of that orange oil based cleaners would kill the grubs if you can deliver it to them -maybe injecting the holes the beetle-mom made to lay her eggs.---Holland The Ultimate Remover. A mixture of solvents in one product to remove various and sundry stains and goofs from laundry, etc. Sold at Home Depot and other stores. Been around a long time. I don't know what the particular solvent is in it that kills the bees. I've tried several common solvents separately with no luck. Goof Off gets 'em but good. DB __ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CS18 Years, 18 tears ?
All I know is that for the past 18 years, every damn tree that I plant dies from borers attacking it. That is a long time for bad luck, .. a long streak. It must not be luck. There must be a scientific answer. Did you seek our the local experts? Knowing when to cry for help is the greatest art to this life. In my area, I have tree surgeons, vegetable scientists, biologist, crop consultants, chemistry professors, physics professors, horticulturist, and people who have managed large pecan farms for many years. I call on these people often when I need answers. Usually, one of my friends knows the answer to any of my problems. One must strive to develop technically advanced friends in all fields of endeavor. I have no idea what kind of borers you have but, para di chloro benzene will control and eliminate some of them. I understand that you might be opposed to used toxic chemicals to solve your problem. However, if you have experienced failures for 18 years, it is time to change your methods. I have pecan trees 40 feet tall I grew from seeds planted in 1980. These trees have made pecan crops for 4 or 5 years. I have failed to grow only one crop, sugar cane. I purchased the seed cane, buried it properly thru the winter, and planted it properly in the spring. I achieved less than 10 % of a decent stand of cane. I never figured out the problem, and never tried to grow it again. Possibly the seed stock got too wed during the winter or maybe too cold. It could have frozen. One has to accept defeat at least once in their lifetime. I read the long list of questions. I would be interested in some of the species you tried to establish, and latitude and longitude, or a GPS reading of your area. You got a lot of good suggestions from Holland and others. Does your soil grow grass and weeds. If you don't have a strong background in growing, you would not understand some of the things that the soil, weeds, and wild plants tell us. Some naturally occurring plants suggest poor soil while others suggest good fertile soil. There is always a chance that some quantity of toxic spill happened there in the past. Often so much lime leaches our of concrete that it kills plants. It sounds like a mystery unless we get a task force together for an on site survey. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCleaning Electrodes
I've read that to clean the electrodes, you should use a nylon scrub pad, and then wipe with a plain white paper towel. How do you tell what kinds of scrub pads are nylon? I got some Scotch multi-purpose pads, that are blue, and some Scotch heavy duty pads that are green. But they don't say anywhere on the package what they are made of. I looked everywhere, trying to find some sort of scrub pads that were labeled as nylon, and couldn't find anything that specified what it is made out of. Linda Jones lin...@hamilton.net -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRE: CSDMSO - other side?
In this regard, those who follow nanotechnology will know that ENORMOUS interest is generated by various nano-tech proposals for new ways to deliver drugs to to various sites in the body. My layman's reading suggests that DMSO is capable of doing many of the tasks that a variety of novel devices are supposed to be able to do -- mostly as some undetermined future time. As always, though, the available non-approved alternative is unpatentable and not terribly lucrative, whereas the new magic bullet gets the dollar signs lighting up in the brains of businessmen and investors. JBB On Monday, May 3, 2004, at 22:25 Asia/Tokyo, Richard Harris wrote: Thanks for your valuable input, JOH Garnet, together with the other knowledgable Experts on this wonderful Site that shares helpful knowledge and information with us seekers! I read the Rabbit bit about DMSO haven't been able to find it, but seem to recall that the eye-cloudiness disappeared after discontinuing use of DMSO and the rabbits eyes returned to normal. I still maintain that DMSO was aptly and truthfully described in Pat McGrady's book, The Persecuted Drug--the Story of DMSO. I consider DMSO and CS as 2 special gifts from God that have been proven to my satisfaction to have safe special uses and abilities NOT enjoyed by any other items I know. Sincerely, Richard Harris, 56 yr FL Pharmacist -Original Message- From: James Holmes [mailto:ami...@starband.net] Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 11:31 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRE: CSDMSO - other side? There was one study where massive amounts of DMSO were given to rabbits. They developed cloudy areas in the lens. No one has been able to make it happen again. Most think it is a scam to discredit a cheap and effective substance. JOH -Original Message- From: sol [mailto:sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com] Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 5:26 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSDMSO - other side? Garnet, Can you point me to any details about the ocular effects in rabbits? I use a little DMSO in my nebulizing and ear drop mix for my bunny, and sure don't want to hurt his eyes. Were those tests done actually putting DMSO into the eyes? My little guy is deaf, so he certainly doesn't need his vision impaired. paula Garnet wrote: (DMSO) It was banned for human use when it was found in the 60's to have ocular effects in rabbits, the standard lab model for eyes. Well it does not do this to primates or humans. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRE: CSDMSO - other side?
Please do post the info if you find it. I'm very interested. TIA, paula Tony Moody wrote: Hi James, Nah, the massive doses of DMSO (10 g/kg of bunny over 3 months made them slightly shortsighted but did NOT affect opacity. Also the bunnies had been used for a previous experiment involving laxative (from memory) which might have distorted the results. I'll find that and scan it. But you are probably right about the rest. Tony -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFood glorious food.
Wayne and others: All persons interested in horticulture can benefit from learning about Essential Microorganisms of Dr. Teruo Higa of Okinawa. His books are entitled Earth Saving Revolution One and Two. Check amazon. There are several EM websites you can find also. JBB On Monday, May 3, 2004, at 13:04 Asia/Tokyo, Wayne Fugitt wrote: Evening John, Wayne: How old are you NOW? Can you still run up a flight of stairs? :-) Yes, of course. Two or three flights, maybe not 8 or 10. Current age, 65.5 I have no back problems and still lift anything I am strong enough to lift. A year or two ago I was helping my son load some cross ties on a trailer. After it was over, I realized this was a good test for my back. If I had any weak disks, this would have tested them very effectively. I can still work 24 to 30 hours straight. I tell all my younger friends, If you can't work 24 hours, you are not healthy. Many people tell me they cannot work 24 hours straight. Likely I could still do 36 to 40. Have not done this test lately. Every day on the beach I see people walking dogs and watch the poor things trying to crap those bullets or mush, that the Gourmet Doggy Food they are fed create. I try to take care of my dog. I give her filtered water with CS. Also feed her raw eggs, raw milk, turkey necks and whole raw chicken, plus vitamin supplements. When she got sick once, I gave her the same vitamins I take. I was mixing powdered vitamins with water and pouring them down her. Here are a few pictures of some of my wild and domestic food. I found the blooms so pretty, I had to make a few pictures. The ones that got my attention was the wild huckleberries. I have a number of bushes, two of which are full bloom. It is interesting the others have set fruit and I am eating them daily. I noticed the blackberries to be the same. Some have lost their blooms and have small berries, while others are still in full flower. Of course I planted early, mid season, and late blueberries which gives me near two full months of blueberry harvest. http://www.fugitt.com/files/berry0428/ ( all pictures here ) This one with the name, http://www.fugitt.com/files/berry0428/blueberry_one_half.JPG One half, only shows about half the bush. Originally, I had 450 bushes. One tornado transplanted a few into a neighbors field, and a few have bit the dirt for other reasons. I planted this field in 1980. The Mulberries are the best and sweetest of all berries, and they get ripe early. The pictures do not show this well, but some are red already. They change from green to red and then blue. Wild critters get more mulberries than I do. Finally, you will see a few beehives required to pollinate melons, peas, wildflowers, and most berry crops. It is interesting that honey bees don't work the blueberries. It is bumble bees that do most of the pollination of the blueberries. I did not reduce the resolution of these pictures. Average 350 to 500 K. Wayne
Re: CSTransfer Factor
Shoot,Christine it has been going on for at least 20 years.We are truly living in a 'tower of babel'revisited.The government has been lieing to us so much it has trickled down to everyone just babeling to keep up with the changes,that and with litigeousness being a way of life everything has to go to strict constuctionist route of the legal system to sort it out.Actually the seeds were sown in government after WWI ..They have been feeding chickens all kinds of antibiotics for years and it has contributed to antibiotics becoming ineffective and resistant diseasease strains are rampant.I was in hospital in 94 and got vancomycin 2-500ml bags a day for six days.My bloodcount never indicated a reason and I could not get anyone to tell me why.Growth hormones toWatch how many time something is said in the groups and you have to go 10-20 posts before you get someone straight on some generality.or how many times you can't get some one to just tippy-tap something on google to find out even though some thoughtful type has provided them a url so they can read for themselves.Educational system has dumbed down.I am thankful I got through it by 1970.Good god I learned Chaucer and Shakespere in their original vernacular.I had to write my way to a BA and the stuff had to make sence and have substance.God help us if they twist food sence organic to the chemical meaning of organic as in organic chemistry.Beleave me when you get around agronomists shooled in landgrant colleges they will tell you that organic fertillizer is urea nitrogen produced by catalizing natural gas(methane).You want the truth about what is going on in agriculture, check out acresusa.com. Sorry folks,I really don't know what to say but washinton is a cesspool and the last president that spoke true words was killed to shut him from spilling the beans. What did they propose to feed chickens with? It is great groups like this one that can at least help those with ears to hear and eyes to see and hands that help. Love and Peace, Holland Garnet, I understand GW quickly pushed through a bill on behalf of the poultry business who complained that feeding foul grain was too expensive. Effectively the bill changed the definition of 'organic' to mean a percentage - something like 90% or 95% is 'natural' (another abused word), and that they could have supplements in the food for the foul - I believe that means 'anti-biotics' with who knows what? BuSH language is different from the English language I learned as a child - feels like I am having to inquire about the new meanings of words - guess that shows my age. Sorry, I don't have a reference, but it happen within the past 6 months. Christine From: Garnet garnetri...@earthlink.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 13:06:11 -0700 Really? I thought that organic meant non GE. Garnet ~ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS18 Years, 18 tears ?
Wayne Fugitt wrote: All I know is that for the past 18 years, every damn tree that I plant dies from borers attacking it. That is a long time for bad luck, .. a long streak. It must not be luck. There must be a scientific answer. Did you seek our the local experts? Knowing when to cry for help is the greatest art to this life. In my area, I have tree surgeons, vegetable scientists, biologist, crop consultants, chemistry professors, physics professors, horticulturist, and people who have managed large pecan farms for many years. I call on these people often when I need answers. Usually, one of my friends knows the answer to any of my problems. One must strive to develop technically advanced friends in all fields of endeavor. I have no idea what kind of borers you have but, para di chloro benzene will control and eliminate some of them. I understand that you might be opposed to used toxic chemicals to solve your problem. However, if you have experienced failures for 18 years, it is time to change your methods. I have pecan trees 40 feet tall I grew from seeds planted in 1980. These trees have made pecan crops for 4 or 5 years. I have failed to grow only one crop, sugar cane. I purchased the seed cane, buried it properly thru the winter, and planted it properly in the spring. I achieved less than 10 % of a decent stand of cane. I never figured out the problem, and never tried to grow it again. Possibly the seed stock got too wed during the winter or maybe too cold. It could have frozen. One has to accept defeat at least once in their lifetime. I read the long list of questions. I would be interested in some of the species you tried to establish, and latitude and longitude, or a GPS reading of your area. You got a lot of good suggestions from Holland and others. Does your soil grow grass and weeds. If you don't have a strong background in growing, you would not understand some of the things that the soil, weeds, and wild plants tell us. Some naturally occurring plants suggest poor soil while others suggest good fertile soil. There is always a chance that some quantity of toxic spill happened there in the past. Often so much lime leaches our of concrete that it kills plants. It sounds like a mystery unless we get a task force together for an on site survey. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com That was good Wayne.For instance if you have dandelions growing you need lime. In general terms. --Holland
