RE: CSGreen wine bottle OK for CS?
If your CS was made using nothing but distilled water and silver, there's nothing in there that is photo reactive. You can sit it in the sunlight in clear glass and it won't change. The particulates in EIS [CS] refract light differently than the lack of particles in distilled water when in the same plastic container. The translucency of the container itself plays a role in the dark appearance. CS will look darker than distilled water when in a distilled water jug. It may darken further as more particles form in very fresh stabilizing CS. Sometimes contaminants in that plastic can react with CS and make it go yellow or brown that don't react with the distilled water. Rare but not unheard of. Plastic is more permeable than glass and can absorb contaminants more easily, but even glass can as well. Ever try to get the smell of stale beer out of a beer bottle? I've had contaminated glass instantly flash a month old batch of CS to muddy brown even after washing and rinsing it with distilled water multiple times. [Rare, but not unheard of] There's no telling what has impregated an old 'chemical soup' wine bottle. [If it works, it works] Old gin and vodka bottles seem to be OK. Ode At 02:30 PM 1/9/2005 -0500, you wrote: Not sure if my earlier message got through. The dark coloured bottles/jars are to keep photo sensitive liquids, (for lack of a better word) from spoiling; thus, using amber or cobalt blue containers. However, as mentioned can be kept in a clear glass jar in a cupboard away from light I would gather this means sunlight but suppose any light is best to be safe. I don't have proof that keeping CS in high density plastic containers will affect the CS. I use grade 2 plastic bottles for distilled water or spring water because this plastic doesn't leach chemicals; Although, it is recommended to change every year. I have bought CS from people who have given it to me in semi transparent gallon plastic and if I am not mistaken over a two week period noticed the CS darken somewhat. It was opaque to begin with and went more towards yellow. Glass is always best. I will be receiving 1 quart/litre amber plastic bottles to temp store the CS which I make for short term use. I can't imagine seepage of CS into the plastic over one weeks time providing the the grade of plastic is high quality. Does anyone on here have experience with high quality plastic coloured bottles of a pharmaceutical grade? Regards Ernie -Original Message- From: fg227 [mailto:fig...@comcast.net] Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 11:30 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSGreen wine bottle OK for CS? Will this keep out sunlight to guard the CS? How about one gallon plastic milk jugs? Thanks -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.9 - Release Date: 1/6/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.9 - Release Date: 1/6/2005
CSWater purification with CS
Hi, AlchemySA, Contaminated water is not a suitable medium for the electrolysis of silver into CS/EIS. An EIS generator needs distilled water, which is obviously already decontaminated. The essential issue is availability and cost of distilled water. I pay $1.50 for a gallon of DW at the drugstore. I can make it at home for about $0.35 per gallon, using a $99 electric distiller. That cost could could be reduced by pre-heating in a suitable tea-kettle (e.g. a cast iron japanese tetsubin) over a fire using a free fuel. But if I am going to pre-heat the water, I might as well go the extra step and bring it to a boil, thus sterilizing it. It is often said that CS can be made for pennies per gallon. This is misleading. The chief cost of LVDC EIS is in the DW. In the long run, it is less expensive to decontaminate water by other means than to turn it into high quality DW. When ordinary methods of decontamination are lacking (due to disaster or remoteness) a sterilizer/filter like the Katadyn can treat enough water for one or a small number of people for less than the cost of distillation. Water purification by treating it with a CS additive is a different story, however. You can't expect CS to remove or kill the larger parasites, for example, or to desalinate brackish water. The problem of purifying water is vast topic. It usually requires an engineering solution suited to the circumstances. Best regards, Matthew
RE: CSGreen wine bottle OK for CS?
Ok, this would explain why my last two batches turned out so nice. I used sterile glass qrt jars with excellent grade distilled water from a reputable distilling company. Along with the help of Ode's machine :-) Many thanks Ode. You're the best. Ernie -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@alltel.net] Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 7:57 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSGreen wine bottle OK for CS? If your CS was made using nothing but distilled water and silver, there's nothing in there that is photo reactive. You can sit it in the sunlight in clear glass and it won't change. The particulates in EIS [CS] refract light differently than the lack of particles in distilled water when in the same plastic container. The translucency of the container itself plays a role in the dark appearance. CS will look darker than distilled water when in a distilled water jug. It may darken further as more particles form in very fresh stabilizing CS. Sometimes contaminants in that plastic can react with CS and make it go yellow or brown that don't react with the distilled water. Rare but not unheard of. Plastic is more permeable than glass and can absorb contaminants more easily, but even glass can as well. Ever try to get the smell of stale beer out of a beer bottle? I've had contaminated glass instantly flash a month old batch of CS to muddy brown even after washing and rinsing it with distilled water multiple times. [Rare, but not unheard of] There's no telling what has impregated an old 'chemical soup' wine bottle. [If it works, it works] Old gin and vodka bottles seem to be OK. Ode At 02:30 PM 1/9/2005 -0500, you wrote: Not sure if my earlier message got through. The dark coloured bottles/jars are to keep photo sensitive liquids, (for lack of a better word) from spoiling; thus, using amber or cobalt blue containers. However, as mentioned can be kept in a clear glass jar in a cupboard away from light I would gather this means sunlight but suppose any light is best to be safe. I don't have proof that keeping CS in high density plastic containers will affect the CS. I use grade 2 plastic bottles for distilled water or spring water because this plastic doesn't leach chemicals; Although, it is recommended to change every year. I have bought CS from people who have given it to me in semi transparent gallon plastic and if I am not mistaken over a two week period noticed the CS darken somewhat. It was opaque to begin with and went more towards yellow. Glass is always best. I will be receiving 1 quart/litre amber plastic bottles to temp store the CS which I make for short term use. I can't imagine seepage of CS into the plastic over one weeks time providing the the grade of plastic is high quality. Does anyone on here have experience with high quality plastic coloured bottles of a pharmaceutical grade? Regards Ernie -Original Message- From: fg227 [mailto:fig...@comcast.net] Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 11:30 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSGreen wine bottle OK for CS? Will this keep out sunlight to guard the CS? How about one gallon plastic milk jugs? Thanks -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.9 - Release Date: 1/6/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.9 - Release Date: 1/6/2005
CSxylitol and CS
Ian - I have been using a similar mixture of CS and xylitol for a few years. I irrigate my sinus cavity with this once or twice a week... I haven't had a cold in three years now. Xylitol coats the cells with a protective barrier so bacteria and virus can't break into the cells and get washed out with mucous. Irrigating with silver and xylitol works great. In a pinch, I just put half a dropper full of 10ppm EIS in each nostril lying on my back and let that sit for a few minutes also. Bob
Re: CSxylitol and CS
Bob, Curious, not that familiar with xylitol! Where do you buy it? Can I purchase it at Publix or any drugstore? Thanks, Pete
CSProbiotics
I just noticed that the acidopholas pills I have are gelatin. Gelatin dissolves in the stomach, where I would expect the culture to get killed. It seems to me that any probiotics should use a hard shell coating that does not break down in the stomach so the live culture can make it to the intestines. Are all probiotics using gelatin capsules? This somehow does not make sense to me. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS Xylitol
Ian, how many days can you keep a CS and xylitol solution for? Sheila Sunday, January 9, 2005, 7:18:16 PM, you wrote: IR Just an encouragement here for those of you who have tried and haven't tried IR 1 level teaspoon of Xylitol per 8 oz of CS as a nasal spray : this mix IR continues to benefit a great number of people with both sinus infections and IR sinus allergies. You can make the stuff up for a lot less than what it is IR being sold for on the internet. Even people with chronic nasal problems who IR have almost given up hope of finding anything that will work for them are IR finding benefit from this - even if they have to use it 4-5 times per day. IR It's non addictive and doesn't have the rebound problems of antihistamines. IR Not sure why it works with those folks who have allergies but it does IR provide relief and it definitely helps those with infections. IR Ian IR -- IR The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. IR Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org IR To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com IR Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html IR Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com IR OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html IR List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSxylitol and CS
Try a health food store or vitamin shoppe. It will be with the sugars and sugar alcholols, such as gluclose, sorbitol and manatose. Marshall panamp...@aol.com wrote: Bob,Curious, not that familiar with xylitol! Where do you buy it? Can Ipurchase it at Publix or any drugstore? Thanks, Pete
CSCS Xylitol
Xyitol, is great in taste, and very low carbs and calories, But I am not a Sweet-a-Holic , I find more attraction to this product for a nasal spray. I make my own with CS, it keeps a long time because of the CS. I have used it for several years. everyone who has used it says the same thing, it works. http://www.xylitol.org/ Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. ---Original Message--- From: Ian Roe Date: 01/09/05 12:12:52 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSCS Xylitol Just an encouragement here for those of you who have tried and haven't tried 1 level teaspoon of Xylitol per 8 oz of CS as a nasal spray : this mix continues to benefit a great number of people with both sinus infections and sinus allergies. You can make the stuff up for a lot less than what it is being sold for on the internet. Even people with chronic nasal problems who have almost given up hope of finding anything that will work for them are finding benefit from this - even if they have to use it 4-5 times per day. It's non addictive and doesn't have the rebound problems of antihistamines. Not sure why it works with those folks who have allergies but it does provide relief and it definitely helps those with infections. Ian -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com .
RE: CSProbiotics
Hi Marshal, I haven't used them in pill form although from the ones I have encountered in health stores they all seem to be in a gelatin capsule. I do use liquid form acidophilus 50 billion live organisms. This is much more potent then capsule form or any yogurt one might buy. Product I use is Bio-k plus. It is very reputable and I have noticed a difference using it. Ernie -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 10:53 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSProbiotics I just noticed that the acidopholas pills I have are gelatin. Gelatin dissolves in the stomach, where I would expect the culture to get killed. It seems to me that any probiotics should use a hard shell coating that does not break down in the stomach so the live culture can make it to the intestines. Are all probiotics using gelatin capsules? This somehow does not make sense to me. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSProbiotics
You need to take probiotics when you are not eating meat. For dog a fermented salad is great way of doing this. The fermented pulped salad is made (mostly with leafy greens) adding probiotics (human grade and non dairy) to establish the good bacteria in the intestines. The human grade digestive enzymes are also added (need one with cellulase and amylase at least) are added to the pulped salad and keep the mix at BODY temperature for at least 15 minutes before feeding, wait at least 2 hours after this salad mix before feeding meaty bones for the best results. This salad helps diarrhea problems as well as constipation, boost the immune system and gives extra b vitamins to boot :o It helps to repair the intestines by establishing good bacteria that prefers raw food and leafy greens. You first pulp the veggies (chop up some romaine lettuce so it is easier to process, some freeze it first to smash into very tiny pieced in the bag after it is frozen) some add a little water for processing) it should look like baby food when done. For sick animals make it mostly leafy greens and low starchy veggies. You can freeze this mush and then continue the rest of the procedure when you need some more fermented veggies. With the thawed mixture or the freshly made one you add some probiotics human grade (non dairy type) always sold in the fridge of pharmacy or health food store. add one capsule or digestive enzymes (like UDO's digestive blend human type, though if you read the labels you will find similar types for less money) but they should have the basics of Cellulase and Amylase. (for dogs and cats about 10 pounds or less use 1/4 capsule of each) Best with a sick dog to add to his food as well and so they should also have Lipase and Protease. I share my digestive enzymes with my dog so I make sure that is also has Lactase as I have problems with milk digestion (but if the mix you get does not have this it is still good for the dog) I do not like the dog types because they often add stuff and some use the poorest quality and the probiotics often are not alive. Some are a joke and if you read the label are often are just prebiotics and sold on a shelf so no live ones left (The ones I have seen are a waste of money IMO or not as beneficial as getting the human grade varieties) Some use this salad instead of a fast day when feeding a raw meaty bone diet. Louise -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 10:53 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSProbiotics I just noticed that the acidopholas pills I have are gelatin. Gelatin dissolves in the stomach, where I would expect the culture to get killed. It seems to me that any probiotics should use a hard shell coating that does not break down in the stomach so the live culture can make it to the intestines. Are all probiotics using gelatin capsules? This somehow does not make sense to me. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSProbiotics
Louise wrote: You need to take probiotics when you are not eating meat. For dog a fermented salad is great way of doing this. The fermented pulped salad is made (mostly with leafy greens) adding probiotics (human grade and non dairy) to establish the good bacteria in the intestines. The human grade digestive enzymes are also added (need one with cellulase and amylase at least) are added to the pulped salad and keep the mix at BODY temperature for at least 15 minutes before feeding, wait at least 2 hours after this salad mix before feeding meaty bones for the best results. This salad helps diarrhea problems as well as constipation, boost the immune system and gives extra b vitamins to boot :o It helps to repair the intestines by establishing good bacteria that prefers raw food and leafy greens. You first pulp the veggies (chop up some romaine lettuce so it is easier to process, some freeze it first to smash into very tiny pieced in the bag after it is frozen) some add a little water for processing) it should look like baby food when done. For sick animals make it mostly leafy greens and low starchy veggies. You can freeze this mush and then continue the rest of the procedure when you need some more fermented veggies. With the thawed mixture or the freshly made one you add some probiotics human grade (non dairy type) always sold in the fridge of pharmacy or health food store. add one capsule or digestive enzymes (like UDO's digestive blend human type, though if you read the labels you will find similar types for less money) but they should have the basics of Cellulase and Amylase. (for dogs and cats about 10 pounds or less use 1/4 capsule of each) Do you eat this immediately, or do you wait a while for it to ferment? Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSProbiotics
Consider kefir (fermented milk similar to yogurt) and kombucha (fermented sugar and tea similar to apple-cider) both easy and fun to make at home for just pennies. Not as cheap as CS but well worth it. I sell the stuff and you can see information about them on my website - but ask around your local HFS or yahoo groups and simply ask for some and your chances are good at getting some for free - maybe postage, best to find one local. If your confused email me off-list as this is off topic. Dom's Kefir in-site for information: http://users.chariot.net.au/~dna/kefirpage.html Looking for kefir grains?... or have kefir grains to share? http://66.46.11.99/clarkson/Show/Clarkson/kefir/default.asp http://www.rejoiceinlife.com/kefir/kefirlist.php Original_Kombucha Home: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/original_kombucha/ Brewing Kombucha Pictures online http://www.happyherbalist.com/pictures.htm Enjoy Your Health, Ed Kasper L.Ac. California Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist www.HappyHerbalist.com e...@happyherbalist.com -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 12:19 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSProbiotics Louise wrote: You need to take probiotics when you are not eating meat. For dog a fermented salad is great way of doing this. The fermented pulped salad is made (mostly with leafy greens) adding probiotics (human grade and non dairy) to establish the good bacteria in the intestines. The human grade digestive enzymes are also added (need one with cellulase and amylase at least) are added to the pulped salad and keep the mix at BODY temperature for at least 15 minutes before feeding, wait at least 2 hours after this salad mix before feeding meaty bones for the best results. This salad helps diarrhea problems as well as constipation, boost the immune system and gives extra b vitamins to boot :o It helps to repair the intestines by establishing good bacteria that prefers raw food and leafy greens. You first pulp the veggies (chop up some romaine lettuce so it is easier to process, some freeze it first to smash into very tiny pieced in the bag after it is frozen) some add a little water for processing) it should look like baby food when done. For sick animals make it mostly leafy greens and low starchy veggies. You can freeze this mush and then continue the rest of the procedure when you need some more fermented veggies. With the thawed mixture or the freshly made one you add some probiotics human grade (non dairy type) always sold in the fridge of pharmacy or health food store. add one capsule or digestive enzymes (like UDO's digestive blend human type, though if you read the labels you will find similar types for less money) but they should have the basics of Cellulase and Amylase. (for dogs and cats about 10 pounds or less use 1/4 capsule of each) Do you eat this immediately, or do you wait a while for it to ferment? Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSFDA Info found...
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Re: CSxylitol and CS in Australia
There are a few firms selling it here in Australia. The first one I got it from ($8.50 for 225g) was http://www.xylitol.com.au/index.html but there is another company www.sweetlife.com.au I paid $13 for 225 g of Perfectsweet from the second company through my iridologist, but I see it would only have cost me $8.95 on line, and cheaper in bulk. When I spoke to the first company, after failing to get it locally at the time, the boss said they had tried to make their own nasal spray, but ended up getting Xlear from America because they couldn't do it as well. I see there is also a firm called Bionatural selling Naturally Sweet xylitol. http://www.bionatural.com.au/default.asp?newsID=90271 In WA http://www.msm-australia.com.au/site/711782/product/XYLITOL0250 is in Kwinana. Prices on special at the moment, I see. (They also sell High Voltage CS for $21 odd and MSM bulk.) Hah! See what happens when you do a bit of research? I just ordered Xylitol and MSM off these guys. Rowena
