CSOff Topic List...
I'm sending this both to MA privately, and to the list, in case others might benefit from the pointers... MA writes: All I get is *Website not responding* messages, Mike. Can you subscribe me? Thanks. Let's check the obvious, first. The web address you're trying to visit is this one, correct? ... http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html I just checked, and it loaded fine here. There's nothing to subscribe to as far as the web site is concerned. It either loads for you or it doesn't. If not, the problem is likely to be something with your web browser setup, I'm afraid. You can subscribe to the OT list to get it in e-mail. To do that, go to: http://www.silverlist.com ... and click on the Off Topic List link, and follow the instructions there to sign up for the regular OT list or the OT digest version. Anybody who's on the main Silver List can already post to the OT list. You only need to subscribe if you want it in e-mail. Otherwise you *should* be able to monitor traffic on the OT list at the archives. sigh Let me know what's happening, Ma'am. Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOff Topic List...
... The web address you're trying to visit is this one, correct? ... http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html Hi Mike. No, I didn't use that address. I used this address: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The reason that I didn't use the one that you noted is because it clearly says *OT Archive* before that address. And I didn't want archives, I wanted the active list. Very good, ma'am! I'm glad we straightened that out. I hope your uncertainty will help others figure out how it works. silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com is the OT list posting address. You send an e-mail there and it goes out to all the subscribers to the OT list, plus to the OT archives at e-scribe. http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html is the web address of the archives. If you don't get the OT list as e-mail, they're the only way to see what's being posted. If you want to get the OT list as e-mail, then go to http://www.silverlist.org and click on the Off Topic List link. Follow the instructions there to sign up. Anybody's who's a member of the main list can post to the OT list without subscribing or doing anything special. The OT list is provided as a place to discuss all the interesting stuff we tend to get into that really would be too off-charter or too detailed for the main list. Thanks for persisting, Marmar. As always, folks, I'm here if you have any questions. My address is in the footer at the bottom of every message. Be well, Mike Devour silver-list owner [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS
Thanks, Kent. I've decided NOT to start the gabapentinmy neurologist could not guarantee that it would help and, well, I've been living with the 'cold at the core feet' for 8 months now - I'm gonna continue trying to deal with it by 'mind over matter'! The sensations in my feet are primarily that of ICE COLDso cold in fact, that at times it feels that if I bump them, they will shatter - much like the Robert Patrick character in Terminator 2 when he gets covered in nitrogen gas! I've been working sooo long to get off of all prescribed medications (other than the supplements I now have to take as a result of my weight loss surgery) AND combined with the fact that I am not amuzed with the side effects that I read (about the gabapentin)I guess I've decided to take charge of my own medical treatment! That and I am in the process of finding a classic-trained homeopathic practitioner Heck, with CS, the support of everyone here and some 'tweaking' that I'll do on my own - to paraphrase a movie (who's title I forget)Doctors! I don need no stinkin' doctors! Temps have been totally strange latelylast Monday it was -30C and 24 hours later (Tues morning) it was -2C and freezing rain. This morning it is -6C with a forecast high of +2 and more freezing rain slated for this week! Mother Earth definately has her undies in a knot! Denise - Original Message - From: kent Hi Denise, I have been on gabapentin, since I suffered a spinal cord injury six years ago. If your feet feel like they are burning similar to the body warming up from frostbite, then the gabapentin may help. It is primarily used for neuropathic pain. I know for myself CS has no effect on my particular neuropathic situation. I'm not sure how bad (liver and kidney) gabapentin is, perhaps Dr. Kenney or Mr. Harris can be of some assistance here. On a different note, Good luck with the cold weather I called my sister in Regina and she said it was -25 (I'm originally from there). Kent
CSBurned hand
I wrote before on burning my hand with a Plasma Cutter, well it will only be 2 weeks tomorrow. My hand is a lot better, I soaked it a couple of times in warm CS. My finger nails and thumb nail on injured hand have turned very dark compared to other hand. Did I soak up some CS into hand, did the CS go right to my finger nails. Or is some how related to burn injury. I also constantly sprayed injury with CS. Hand is healing a lot faster than I would have thought possible. Any comments or insights would be appreciated. Bob
Re: CSSolubility of silver chloride in HCl and NaCl
Ode Coyote wrote: A If you start with 1 oz of 10 ppm EIS, that will typically have about 9 ppm of silver hydroxide in it. ## Might want to check and see how soluable silver hydroxide is. It's listed as insoluable. I have searched far and wide for information on silver hydroxide, and all I could ever find was that it tends to become silver oxide over time. Where did you find this information? Seems like there would be very little if any in the EIS and lots of it stuck to an electrode or forming a white spot on the bottom where an ion track might be contacting the container under that electrode producing a fall-off path. [To coin yet another phrase] Typically such a path [at its worst] would consist of a black spot and a white spot, one under each electrode, with a shiny silver plate-out sheet between them [nearly impossible to scrub off]. Lets confirm that silver hydroxide is really insolable. I find some references that list that silver chloride is insoluble as well, they consider anything in the low ppm is insoluble. I can't find anything about silver hydroxide in any of my chemistry references. Marshall ode -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.2 - Release Date: 1/21/2005 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSolubility of silver chloride in HCl and NaCl
From http://www.protext.com/metals/SilverFacts.htm Silver Hydroxide is less soluble than Silver Phosphate: Add 2 drops 1.0 M NaOH (33 mL 3 M Sodium Hydroxide (NaOH) in 100 ml water) Ag3PO4 + 3 OH- -- 3 AgOH + PO43- Silver Chloride is less soluble than Silver Hydroxide: Add 5 drops 1 M NaCl (5.844 g Sodium Chloride (NaCl) in 100 ml water) AgOH + Cl- -- AgCl + OH- Chuck Whose cruel idea was it for the word Lisp to have S in it? On 1/24/2005 4:16:40 PM, silver-list@eskimo.com wrote: Ode Coyote wrote: A If you start with 1 oz of 10 ppm EIS, that will typically have about 9 ppm of silver hydroxide in it. ## Might want to check and see how soluable silver hydroxide is. It's listed as insoluable. I have searched far and wide for information on silver hydroxide, and all I could ever find was that it tends to become silver oxide over time. Where did you find this information? Seems like there would be very little if any in the EIS and lots of it stuck to an electrode or forming a white spot on the bottom where an ion track might be contacting the container under that electrode producing a fall-off path. [To coin yet another phrase] Typically such a path [at its worst] would consist of a black spot and a white spot, one under each electrode, with a shiny silver plate-out sheet between them [nearly impossible to scrub off]. Lets confirm that silver hydroxide is really insolable. I find some references that list that silver chloride is insoluble as well, they consider anything in the low pp -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.3 - Release Date: 1/24/2005 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS Diabetes, neuropathy, thyroid problems, etc.
Re: CS Diabetes, neuropathy, thyroid problems, etc. Can't remember which practitioner (MD / alternative practitioner) it was but he was recommending Alpha Lipoic Acid (ALA) for diabetic neuropathy. His recommendation on dose for those with the condition was 200mg three times a day. Don't just do this and forget about losing weight and following up on a holistic approach! Dan -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSPancreatic Cancer
I would definitely be doing the Hulda Clark protocol on this, with the Zapper and the anti-parasite herbs. Right away. And doing CS in large doses too... Dan CSPancreatic Cancer From: William Amos (view other messages by this author) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 12:26:10 A friend is being treated for pancreatic cancer. He was found on the floor of the post office unable to breath. He is on very expensive medicine. Does anyone know if the breathing problem could be a result of the cancer and of course, has anyone had any experiance using CS for this type of disease ?...Bill Amos -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS
Denise, When I go ice cold from paralytic polio it is classically called 'brown out'. All along my spine and deep within to the core of me is ice cold like touching ice in the freezer. It physical reality terms it means I am loosing brain and central nervous system cells that allopathic medicine indicates can never be regained. Also my meridians are closed down and some brain connections are compromised. I use BodyTalk to reactive them. It's very hard on the body and takes time to regain some of the lost information. Energy levels remain low for weeks. BT is the only relief I have found. Food and water help marginally, as does a hot bath each hour, but when the core is shutting down, it's time for bigger guns - contacting the innate wisdom within and seeing if it is prepared to restart the system. Warmly with eHugs, Christine Christine Carleton, C.B.P. Certified BodyTalk® Practitioner, International BodyTalk System Association From: Denise Rollheiser neec...@sasktel.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 06:56:17 -0600 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 04:54:22 -0800 Thanks, Kent. I've decided NOT to start the gabapentinmy neurologist could not guarantee that it would help and, well, I've been living with the 'cold at the core feet' for 8 months now - I'm gonna continue trying to deal with it by 'mind over matter'! The sensations in my feet are primarily that of ICE COLDso cold in fact, that at times it feels that if I bump them, they will shatter - much like the Robert Patrick character in Terminator 2 when he gets covered in nitrogen gas! I've been working sooo long to get off of all prescribed medications (other than the supplements I now have to take as a result of my weight loss surgery) AND combined with the fact that I am not amuzed with the side effects that I read (about the gabapentin)I guess I've decided to take charge of my own medical treatment! That and I am in the process of finding a classic-trained homeopathic practitioner Heck, with CS, the support of everyone here and some 'tweaking' that I'll do on my own - to paraphrase a movie (who's title I forget)Doctors! I don need no stinkin' doctors! Temps have been totally strange latelylast Monday it was -30C and 24 hours later (Tues morning) it was -2C and freezing rain. This morning it is -6C with a forecast high of +2 and more freezing rain slated for this week! Mother Earth definately has her undies in a knot! Denise - Original Message - From: kent mailto:ke...@shaw.ca Hi Denise, I have been on gabapentin, since I suffered a spinal cord injury six years ago. If your feet feel like they are burning similar to the body warming up from frostbite, then the gabapentin may help. It is primarily used for neuropathic pain. I know for myself CS has no effect on my particular neuropathic situation. I'm not sure how bad (liver and kidney) gabapentin is, perhaps Dr. Kenney or Mr. Harris can be of some assistance here. On a different note, Good luck with the cold weather I called my sister in Regina and she said it was -25 (I'm originally from there). Kent
CScs matallic after taste
I ' ve been making cs for a few months by using dc 12 v output 170 mA transformer and 36 v battery system. The cs produces from the transformer taste like matallic water. The cs from battery has no metallic after taste. Can you tell me why are they so different ?
Re: CSbasic dumb question
I have found several sites that claim that silver hydroxide is insoluble. However I also have found the following, the second one give in fact, the solubility of silver hydroxide to 3 significant digits as 13.3 ppm. This link http://chemmovies.unl.edu/chemistry/smallscale/SS063c.html I believe intends to say that silver chloride is less soluble than silver hydroxide. That would mean it has a solubility greater than .89 ppm. See #4. However they did mess it up and say that silver hydroxide is less soluble than silver hydroxide by mistake. According to http://www.silver-colloids.com/Papers/Solubility_Products.PDF the solubility of silver hydroxide is 13.3 ppm, which is what we often quote as the stable limit for ionic silver on this list. I feel this support the notion that the silver in EIS is predominately silver hydroxide. http://www.northland.cc.mn.us/Chemistry/solubility_products.htm lists silver hydroxide as having a solubility (Ksp) of 2.0X10-8, compared with 1.6X10-10 for silver chloride. That would make silver hydroxide soluble than silver chloride, but the exact difference would depend on the stoichiometry of the precipitant. http://home.snu.edu/dept/chemistry/syllabi/ARCHIVES/CHEM1224/LABEXP~1/SILVER~1.PDF shows the solubility Ksp of silver hydroxide to be 2.0 X 10-8 and silver chloride to be 1.8 X 10-10 which is close to what the above reference shows it. I feel these support the notion that the silver in EIS is predominately silver hydroxide which has a low solubility, but one that is sufficient for typically EIS. Marshall Ode Coyote wrote: ## Well sure. The questions pertain more towards what happens if the silver ion 'doesn't' find a hydroxl ion and why, maybe, it's only a strong tendency rather than a mandate. If making stable compounds were an 'absolute mandate', the CS water probably wouldn't have such a long unstable state. If a silver ion can 'associate and orientate' itself with the hydroxl portion of a 'non' dissociated water molecule without actually making a compound...that might could prevent a hydroxl ion from finding it to some degree by hiding it's electron hole to some degree. OH is a gas? Could it just bubble off to some extent, leaving 'some' silver ions with nowhere to go, leaving them with choice #2. [Loose association with an occupied OH vs tightly bonded compound with a previously unoccupied OH]? If AgO can be formed, apparently there are some O1 atoms running about looking for something to do and they might not all do any one given thing...same for the hydrogen? Could a Hydroxl ion 'Not' find a silver ion and get together with another hydrogen atom to turn back into water as 'its' choice #2? It's my vauge and maybe erronious understanding that a silver particle can accumulate a minus charge from the Zeta. It's probably not quite the same as an ionic charge, but could that minus zeta be similar enough have a stabilizing effect and attraction for a plus charged silver ion? If some ions are orienting towards an occupied OH in a water molecule and are also attracting zeta charged metal, I see a sort of potential for a 'charge protected' crystal lattice structure forming around a water molecule as its nucleus...and another oriented varient using a silver oxide molecule. Silver hydroxide is virtually insoluable in water [listed as insoluable]...one of the few hydroxides that aren't extremely soluable in water. If it's that insoluable, it doesn't seem likely to concentrate in solution. It's also stable enough that you can buy it in powder form. That doesn't suggest spontanious conversions to silver oxide to me. Another thing that doesn't get mentioned much: Many of the various deposits found in various places, regardless of color, will leave a shiny silver smear when wiped onto a surface and there's that silver slick that sometimes forms on top. There's definitely some metallic silver running about. Ode At 03:17 PM 1/20/2005 -0500, you wrote: Ode Coyote wrote: Dissolved Compounds still remain those compounds and don't change into something else when the water is removed. A free silver ion isn't likely to be very stable and very much wants to share an electron with something. Solutions by their very nature are always neutral. If you have an Ag+ ion, there has to be a (-) ion to balance it. The two together will define the compound. For freshly made EIS the negative ion is the hydroxyl ion, IE OH-, so the silver compound in EIS is actually silver hydroxide. At higher concentrations, silver hydroxide tends to become unstable, and will spontaneouly convert to silver oxide. This could be part of the aging process that occurs when EIS sits, not sure. Question: Does it HAVE to share, or can it's desires be passified as an 'onlooker' or 'groupie', so to speak? Can a free silver ion 'associate' [identify?] itself... around and with... a water molecules opposite
Re: CS
You wrote: The sensations in my feet are primarily that of ICE COLDso cold in fact, that at times it feels that if I bump them, they will shatter - much like the Robert Patrick character in Terminator 2 when he gets covered in nitrogen gas! See below: Thuja's limbs feel to him like glass that could break, Perhaps you might check out a homeopathic doctor. But don't take thuja without supervision... Dan http://www.healthy.net/library/journals/resonance/17.3/mnemonic.htm Homeopathic Mnemonic by Nicole S. Urdang, MS, NCC, DHM Similia similibus curentur Sounds archaic but's quite an adventure; One I travel in the mind, Where allopathy's left behind. 'Twas Hahnemann, its founder, see, Who made up potencies -practically free- Stimulating the vital force, And healing chronic miasms, of course! We know he had a prodigious mind For look at all he left behind. The man was far from being a bum; In fact, he was Arsenicum. The remedies are tried and true Through many provings, old and new. It only takes a little bit, Though Avogadro can't admit They actually work quite well Where no discernible substance dwells. So much to learn, it's pandemonium, But not if I take my Lycopodium. With Gibson, Clarke, Boericke, and Kent, There's hardly time to pay the rent. Add Nash, Vithoulkas, Allen and Cook, And it's time to take another look. Boenninghausen, Coulter and Speight, Better forget that dinner date. Hering, Hughes, Eizayaga and Blackie; Now I'm feeling really wacky! Remembering remedies is quite a chore, But doesn't have to be a bore, For just when you think you know one well, Another proving breaks the spell. Adding rubrics left and right, Modalities: morning, noon, and night, Makes this science art you see, All the more useful and interesting to me. Although there's more than I can ken, Studying all night can be quite zen, For in the wee hours of the night I make up rhymes to remember them right. Aconite has fear and dread; The skin is dry and hot, it's said. With Allium cepa the story's old, He has dull headaches and a watery cold. Alumina is weak and chronic Craving chalk and starch as tonics. Anacardium laughs at serious things, and Forgets the names of English Kings. Apis burns, stings, and feels sore In a warm room he's worse than before. Argentum met. is irritable and thin; Talking and singing aggravates him. Argentum nit. gets the runs from sweets, And aggravation from mental feats. Arnica's tops for bumps and bruises, Upper body has heat and the lower portion loses. Arsenicum's burning pains are better for heat. He fears death, writes small, legibly, and neat. Aurum met., tired of life, suicide on his mind, Heart stands still, or palpitates, better when winter's behind. Baryta carb. is forgetful and weak. He's worse after meals and lacks vital heat. Belladonna's sudden onset, red face, and vertigo Prod us to remember he's worse from touch also. Bryonia alba reminds us of Nux, But he's worse from motion and his thirst is deluxe. Calcarea is fat, blond, and plethoric. She perspires all over, craves eggs, and is psoric. Calcarea phos. is like the last Calc., you know, But she's dark and thin, and worse for melting snow. Carbo animalis has a tornado in his head. He's worse after shaving, and after midnight, in bed. Carbo veg. wants to be constantly fanned. Think of this remedy when death is at hand. Causticum is worse in clear, nice weather. There's rawness or soreness, and damp makes him better. Chamomilla's for children's rough dentition; Fasting and carrying helps their cranky condition. Cina kids are much like Cham.; they like to be carried about. One cheek is red, the other pale; at night they tend to shout. Cinchona's headaches feel as if the skull would burst. The slightest touch, or draft of air makes them feel worse. Cocculus bookworms are sensitive and romantic. Loss of sleep can make them frantic. Coffea's aggravated from strong feelings of delight. All senses are acute: hearing, smell, taste, touch and sight. Colchicum gets sick and faints from smelling cooking food; Too much light, or bad manners put him in a foul mood. Colocynthis' abdominal pains cause him to bend double. His anger and indignation spur on this type of trouble. Conium mac. is for old autonomous types With bad effects from suppressing sexual appetites. Crotalus horridus is weak, and bleeds from every orifice. The tongue's bright red, swollen, and polished as ice. Cuprum met. is for spasms and cramps of the calf; Oddly enough, a sip of cold water may cut their pain in half. Digitalis is employed for a pulse intermittent and weak; The skin is blue, and fingers have a habit of going to sleep. Drosera's great for whooping cough That's worse for reclining, warmth, or a laugh. Eupatorium perf. feels bruised and broken everywhere;
Re: CSOff Topic List...
In a message dated 1/24/2005 7:21:52 AM Central Standard Time, mdev...@eskimo.com writes: Let's check the obvious, first. The web address you're trying to visit is this one, correct? ... http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html I just checked, and it loaded fine here. Hi Mike. No, I didn't use that address. I used this address: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The reason that I didn't use the one that you noted is because it clearly says *OT Archive* before that address. And I didn't want archives, I wanted the active list. Sigh. I'll go and try this again. Sorry for the problems.MA
Re: CStetrasil, etc PLUS RECIPE
I run into this quite often. Try taking the mouse and highlighting the text, it will probably then become white on a black background. Marshall omega 3 wrote: i cannot read the list of ingredients when printed blue on a black background. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CStetrasil, etc PLUS RECIPE
Try a drug store. It is the white stuff that use to be used as a sun block, and still is sometimes, and is used in many foot fungus ointments. I believe it is also what it in the white ointment diaper rash stuff as well. The drugest will likely have it behind the counter. Marshall Sally Khanna wrote: Where can we get zinc chloride? Don't know if I've ever seen it. thanks,Sally Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp wrote: I'm with Ed: the more information we can get, the better. I particular, I have read nothing about bloodroot and CS in combination or as complementary protocols. BTW I first read about bloodroot in Andrew Weil's great book. Spontaneous Healing. This is a must-have. (The subsequent book were a bit disappointing. . . ) Here is a recipe I found for a bloodroot salve. This can save lives. Kindly pass on the recipe to anyone interested. JBB This is a recipe for a black paste very similar to the cansema. But this is a preferred paste for melanoma and all suspect skin cancer like lesions. This paste also has worked well for all manner of cancers provided that they have become exposed to or close to the surface of the skin. 1/2 cup powdered Blood Root (Sanguinaria Canadensis) 1/2 cup Zinc Chlorid! e, crystals or liquid 1/2 cup common white flour 1 1/2 cup warm water 100ml Chaparral extract or 100gm of powdered Chaparral (Larrea mexicana) Pre-mix all but the water, thoroughly, before adding to the water. Using a stainless steel double boiler. Put in water, then stir in the other ingredients. Stir in well using a wooden spoon. Cook for thirty minutes over boiling water, stirring constantly. Application is much the same as cansema. Apply a thin layer (2-3mm) of the paste over the affected area and cover for 24 hours. Then remove the covering but do not disturb the lesion at all, do not attempt to pull the cancer out at any time, it should fall out in 10 days or so. Some people with sensitive skin put vaseline around the cancer so that the paste does not irritate the skin. On Monday, Jan 24, 2005, at 11:00 Asia/Tokyo, Ed Kasper wrote: Bob, will you elaborate on how you used bloodroot. did you! make a tincture, how strong how applied. Thanks Ed -Original Message- From: bbanever [mailto:bbane...@earthlink.net] Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 11:51 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CStetrasil, etc. NOW BLOODROOT Jonathan - While it is true that bloodroot can be toxic in large quantities it can also be a life saver and cure for cancer in small but sustained dosages when ingested. It works pretty much the same internally as it does topically it literally seeks out and destroys diseased cells while leaving healthy ones intact. Some say it lyses the cell wall allowing the immune system to identify and destroy that which was living inside of it... virus, bacteria, fungus, parasites. Escharotic therapy is quite old and has its roots in American ! Indian herbal medicine. I've used it successfully for skin cancer and sarcoid tumors. In every case there is a tremendous macrophage attack of the tumor followed by its dehydration and complete healing. Amazing really. The size of the tumor on the skin is dwarfed severalfold by the amount of diseased cells under and around it. I've used CS in the healing phase of this therapy and haven't had any problems with sepsis or scarring. I'm sure in very large quantities bloodroot can be toxic and care must be taken when using this miracle substance. Bob -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour --- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term'
RE: CStetrasil, etc PLUS RECIPE FORMATTING
I often forward the mail (well start to and then I have the option to change the font size colour etc. with out actually sending the mail anywhere but I then have the option to change the formatting. Louise -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 11:21 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CStetrasil, etc PLUS RECIPE I run into this quite often. Try taking the mouse and highlighting the text, it will probably then become white on a black background. Marshall omega 3 wrote: i cannot read the list of ingredients when printed blue on a black background. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS (OT paralytic polio and magpulsers)
You may want to consider a magpulser or if you live near a Papimi clinic get some treatments. There is a lot of research going on right now into the benefits of magnetic energy. This article from the NY Times was in the magpulser forum a few days ago. Very encouraging. Laws of attraction Doctors used to dismiss magnetic therapy as ancient quackery. Until they discovered that it really can help wounds to heal faster, treat epilepsy and even ease depression By Alex Murray 18 January 2005 NEW YORK TIMES Is it possible that the magnetic therapy used by physicians in ancient Egypt to keep their young queen healthy does have a positive effect? Not so long ago, magnetic therapy was pretty much shunned by mainstream medicine, dismissed as ineffective and, even worse, condemned as quackery. Any benefits that it might have, said the sceptics, could be explained by the placebo effect: patients believed that it worked, ergo it did. But there is now mounting evidence that magnetic therapy can be effective. More than 300 research teams around the world, at institutions as prestigious and mainstream as Imperial College London, and California, Yale and Harvard universities, have found evidence of positive effects. It has been shown to work in conditions as diverse as arthritis, depression, incontinence, wound healing, epilepsy and spinal injuries, and is being investigated as a treatment for many more, including cancer, migraine and MS. It can even, it is suggested, help to straighten crooked teeth, encourage bone to grow and help people who hear voices but have not responded to drug treatments. Back in ancient Egyptian times and beyond, it is likely that the original idea of magnet therapy stemmed from the unusual effects of natural stones. That is almost certainly why Cleopatra wore a naturally magnetic lodestone on her forehead to slow down the ageing process. Before and since, many cultures have used magnetic therapy, and although it has always been part of the treatment portfolio of alternative medicine, it has remained largely at the margins of mainstream medicine because of the lack of good scientific evidence that it works. Over the years, one or two good studies have surfaced hinting that something might be happening due to magnetic therapy, but the real turning point came when gold-standard, double-blind clinical trials, in which no one knows who is being treated with what, began to support some of the earlier claims. There are two main ways of using magnets in medicine. The hi-tech way is magnetic stimulation of the brain, while the more traditional technique uses others types of magnet to stimulate specific areas of the body. There is now evidence that both approaches work in different ways for different conditions. One of the landmark studies for the hi-tech way has come out of the Technion-Israel Institute of Technology, which showed that magnetic stimulation of the brain eases severe depression. After two weeks of treatment, half of the patients showed a 50 per cent improvement in symptoms. Half the patients also had no need for further treatment with electroconvulsive therapy (ECT), while all those who had been given a dummy treatment did need it. Our findings are very exciting since they provide clear evidence for the effectiveness of magnetic therapy, at least over the short term, says Dr Ehud Klein, who led the study and whose findings have now been replicated in three other studies. In a study at the Medical University of South Carolina, 20 depressed patients, who had not been helped by medication, had the treatment for 20 minutes a day for two weeks, and 10 had a magnet applied to their scalp but no treatment. In half of the 20 patients, symptoms were reduced by 50 per cent, while none of the group of 10 improved. This allows us, for the first time, to stimulate the brain non-invasively while the person is awake and alert, says Dr Mark George, professor of psychiatry at the university. The technique, transcranial magnetic stimulation or TMS, works on the principle that the brain can be manipulated by small electric currents because brain cells communicate with each other and pass instructions by pulses of electricity. We can demonstrate it quite easily, says Dr Declan McLoughlin, a consultant psychiatrist at the Institute of Psychiatry in London. For example, if I were to take a magnetic coil and move it over parts of the brain that control the movement of body parts, I could make the little finger, then the middle finger, and then the thumb move. The trick with TMS is to set up the fields over the particular area of the brain that needs retuning. It is known from the results of scanning patients with depression that there is reduced activity and blood flow in the left frontal lobe, an area of the brain above the forehead that is involved in thinking and planning. In the therapy, a wire coil is held close to the patient's scalp above the left frontal lobe to produce a magnetic
CSTetrasil, etc PLUS RECIPE
Zinc oxide is used as sunscreen. Zinc chloride is very irritating to the skin and other tissues.
Re: CSbasic dumb question
Ode Coyote wrote: ## Well sure. The questions pertain more towards what happens if the silver ion 'doesn't' find a hydroxl ion and why, maybe, it's only a strong tendency rather than a mandate. If making stable compounds were an 'absolute mandate', the CS water probably wouldn't have such a long unstable state. If a silver ion can 'associate and orientate' itself with the hydroxl portion of a 'non' dissociated water molecule without actually making a compound...that might could prevent a hydroxl ion from finding it to some degree by hiding it's electron hole to some degree. If you look at the process of making a silver ion, all charges must sum to 0. What that means is that when you strip an Ag+ off the wire, an OH- HAS to be made at the same time, or the charges will not sum to 0, and the solution will not be neutral. OH is a gas? No, OH is a radical, it cannot exist without a corresponding Anion. Four OH- radicals can combine to form 2H2O and O2, with the necessary transfer of electrons between the OH and the anion. Could it just bubble off to some extent, leaving 'some' silver ions with nowhere to go, leaving them with choice #2. [Loose association with an occupied OH vs tightly bonded compound with a previously unoccupied OH]? No, OH- radical cannot exist alone. If AgO can be formed, apparently there are some O1 atoms running about looking for something to do and they might not all do any one given thing...same for the hydrogen? Not necessarily. 2AgOH could become Ag2O + H2O without any other substances taking part in the conversion. Could a Hydroxl ion 'Not' find a silver ion and get together with another hydrogen atom to turn back into water as 'its' choice #2? It is a sum 0 game. Water is continually dissassociating and reassociating all the time. That is what gives pure water a pH of 7. This takes place continusouly, disassociating, then reassociating. But a silver ion will have to associate with something, with a negative charge (OH- or O--) to maintain it's charge. Charges must sum to zero. It's my vauge and maybe erronious understanding that a silver particle can accumulate a minus charge from the Zeta. It's probably not quite the same as an ionic charge, but could that minus zeta be similar enough have a stabilizing effect and attraction for a plus charged silver ion? I find this confusing as well. Frank Key is the one that has insisted that silver particles have a negative charge. I have reached the conclusion that what happens is that there is tendancy for the water molecules to be adsorbed onto the silver particles such that the OH tends to gain an electron and the silver tends to lose one. This is similar to a silver ion, but it is a clump of silver atoms in which the charge can move easily from one atom to the next. The result is that the particle ends up surrounded by OH- radicals, and since they are completely surrounding the positive charge of the silver particle, give an overall zeta viewed from the outside as negative, since that will be the surface charge. I am not sure of this at all though, but it is the only way I have been able to figure out how a silver particle can exhibit a negative zeta charge when measured macroscopically. If some ions are orienting towards an occupied OH in a water molecule and are also attracting zeta charged metal, I see a sort of potential for a 'charge protected' crystal lattice structure forming around a water molecule as its nucleus...and another oriented varient using a silver oxide molecule. I think you wil find the orientation to be water molecules or OH- radicals around the particle, not the other way around. Silver oxide, as long as it is below the solubility of Ag2O will dissolve, and will not form a particle at all. If it is over the solubility limit and forms any particles, they tend to precipitate out in short order. Silver hydroxide is virtually insoluable in water [listed as insoluable]...one of the few hydroxides that aren't extremely soluable in water. If it's that insoluable, it doesn't seem likely to concentrate in solution. The true solubility of silver hydroxide is 13.3 ppm from what I can determine. That makes it almost 15 times as soluable as silver chloride, and I believe tends to set an upper limit to the amount of ionic silver that can be in EIS without having long term stability problems. It's also stable enough that you can buy it in powder form. That doesn't suggest spontanious conversions to silver oxide to me. I am unsure of what conditions cause silver hydroxide to become silver oxide. I was unaware one could purchase it. Another thing that doesn't get mentioned much: Many of the various deposits found in various places, regardless of color, will leave a shiny silver smear when wiped onto a surface and there's that silver slick that sometimes forms on top. There's definitely some metallic silver running about.
CSMercury toxicity...
Debbie McDonald writes: I'm mercury toxic and ALA makes me insane, it is horrific. I cannot tolerate very small doses so anyone might want to start low. Have you seen this link, Debbie? http://www.noamalgam.com I bought this book and it's pretty thorough about diagnosing and treating mercury toxicity. Along with DMPS or DMSA, Cutler counts ALA as an important piece of a ***proper*** chelation protocol. You're reaction is proof that it's effective, I guess. Now for finding a manageable approach that won't make you crazy! I'm working up the gumption to get my amalgams removed... sigh Best of luck to you, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS
Hi Denise, I totally understand your desire to get off all modern medicine prescriptions and such. I'm not a big fan of pills actually I hate them. It is kinda funny, I never thought I would have to take pills, but after being injured in a car accident it seems to be the only thing that can help certain things that are affecting my CNS (central nervous system). As far as the weather goes, it seems pretty strange everywhere. I'm currently living in Vancouver and the weather for the most part is great, actually it is great. Wish I could say the same for the government here. Have yourself a good day. Kent - Original Message - From: Denise Rollheiser To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 4:56 AM Subject: Re: CS Thanks, Kent. I've decided NOT to start the gabapentinmy neurologist could not guarantee that it would help and, well, I've been living with the 'cold at the core feet' for 8 months now - I'm gonna continue trying to deal with it by 'mind over matter'! The sensations in my feet are primarily that of ICE COLDso cold in fact, that at times it feels that if I bump them, they will shatter - much like the Robert Patrick character in Terminator 2 when he gets covered in nitrogen gas! I've been working sooo long to get off of all prescribed medications (other than the supplements I now have to take as a result of my weight loss surgery) AND combined with the fact that I am not amuzed with the side effects that I read (about the gabapentin)I guess I've decided to take charge of my own medical treatment! That and I am in the process of finding a classic-trained homeopathic practitioner Heck, with CS, the support of everyone here and some 'tweaking' that I'll do on my own - to paraphrase a movie (who's title I forget)Doctors! I don need no stinkin' doctors! Temps have been totally strange latelylast Monday it was -30C and 24 hours later (Tues morning) it was -2C and freezing rain. This morning it is -6C with a forecast high of +2 and more freezing rain slated for this week! Mother Earth definately has her undies in a knot! Denise - Original Message - From: kent Hi Denise, I have been on gabapentin, since I suffered a spinal cord injury six years ago. If your feet feel like they are burning similar to the body warming up from frostbite, then the gabapentin may help. It is primarily used for neuropathic pain. I know for myself CS has no effect on my particular neuropathic situation. I'm not sure how bad (liver and kidney) gabapentin is, perhaps Dr. Kenney or Mr. Harris can be of some assistance here. On a different note, Good luck with the cold weather I called my sister in Regina and she said it was -25 (I'm originally from there). Kent
Re: CS
Re: CSWhat is body talk? - Original Message - From: Christine Carleton To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 7:59 AM Subject: Re: CS Denise, When I go ice cold from paralytic polio it is classically called 'brown out'. All along my spine and deep within to the core of me is ice cold like touching ice in the freezer. It physical reality terms it means I am loosing brain and central nervous system cells that allopathic medicine indicates can never be regained. Also my meridians are closed down and some brain connections are compromised. I use BodyTalk to reactive them. It's very hard on the body and takes time to regain some of the lost information. Energy levels remain low for weeks. BT is the only relief I have found. Food and water help marginally, as does a hot bath each hour, but when the core is shutting down, it's time for bigger guns - contacting the innate wisdom within and seeing if it is prepared to restart the system. Warmly with eHugs, Christine Christine Carleton, C.B.P. Certified BodyTalk® Practitioner, International BodyTalk System Association From: Denise Rollheiser neec...@sasktel.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 06:56:17 -0600 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 04:54:22 -0800 Thanks, Kent. I've decided NOT to start the gabapentinmy neurologist could not guarantee that it would help and, well, I've been living with the 'cold at the core feet' for 8 months now - I'm gonna continue trying to deal with it by 'mind over matter'! The sensations in my feet are primarily that of ICE COLDso cold in fact, that at times it feels that if I bump them, they will shatter - much like the Robert Patrick character in Terminator 2 when he gets covered in nitrogen gas! I've been working sooo long to get off of all prescribed medications (other than the supplements I now have to take as a result of my weight loss surgery) AND combined with the fact that I am not amuzed with the side effects that I read (about the gabapentin)I guess I've decided to take charge of my own medical treatment! That and I am in the process of finding a classic-trained homeopathic practitioner Heck, with CS, the support of everyone here and some 'tweaking' that I'll do on my own - to paraphrase a movie (who's title I forget)Doctors! I don need no stinkin' doctors! Temps have been totally strange latelylast Monday it was -30C and 24 hours later (Tues morning) it was -2C and freezing rain. This morning it is -6C with a forecast high of +2 and more freezing rain slated for this week! Mother Earth definately has her undies in a knot! Denise - Original Message - From: kent mailto:ke...@shaw.ca Hi Denise, I have been on gabapentin, since I suffered a spinal cord injury six years ago. If your feet feel like they are burning similar to the body warming up from frostbite, then the gabapentin may help. It is primarily used for neuropathic pain. I know for myself CS has no effect on my particular neuropathic situation. I'm not sure how bad (liver and kidney) gabapentin is, perhaps Dr. Kenney or Mr. Harris can be of some assistance here. On a different note, Good luck with the cold weather I called my sister in Regina and she said it was -25 (I'm originally from there). Kent
Re: CS
Vancouver, Washington or Vancouver BC? CC From: kent ke...@shaw.ca Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 12:01:15 -0800 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 11:59:39 -0800 Hi Denise, I totally understand your desire to get off all modern medicine prescriptions and such. I'm not a big fan of pills actually I hate them. It is kinda funny, I never thought I would have to take pills, but after being injured in a car accident it seems to be the only thing that can help certain things that are affecting my CNS (central nervous system). As far as the weather goes, it seems pretty strange everywhere. I'm currently living in Vancouver and the weather for the most part is great, actually it is great. Wish I could say the same for the government here. Have yourself a good day. Kent - Original Message - From: Denise Rollheiser mailto:neec...@sasktel.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 4:56 AM Subject: Re: CS Thanks, Kent. I've decided NOT to start the gabapentinmy neurologist could not guarantee that it would help and, well, I've been living with the 'cold at the core feet' for 8 months now - I'm gonna continue trying to deal with it by 'mind over matter'! The sensations in my feet are primarily that of ICE COLDso cold in fact, that at times it feels that if I bump them, they will shatter - much like the Robert Patrick character in Terminator 2 when he gets covered in nitrogen gas! I've been working sooo long to get off of all prescribed medications (other than the supplements I now have to take as a result of my weight loss surgery) AND combined with the fact that I am not amuzed with the side effects that I read (about the gabapentin)I guess I've decided to take charge of my own medical treatment! That and I am in the process of finding a classic-trained homeopathic practitioner Heck, with CS, the support of everyone here and some 'tweaking' that I'll do on my own - to paraphrase a movie (who's title I forget)Doctors! I don need no stinkin' doctors! Temps have been totally strange latelylast Monday it was -30C and 24 hours later (Tues morning) it was -2C and freezing rain. This morning it is -6C with a forecast high of +2 and more freezing rain slated for this week! Mother Earth definately has her undies in a knot! Denise - Original Message - From: kent mailto:ke...@shaw.ca Hi Denise, I have been on gabapentin, since I suffered a spinal cord injury six years ago. If your feet feel like they are burning similar to the body warming up from frostbite, then the gabapentin may help. It is primarily used for neuropathic pain. I know for myself CS has no effect on my particular neuropathic situation. I'm not sure how bad (liver and kidney) gabapentin is, perhaps Dr. Kenney or Mr. Harris can be of some assistance here. On a different note, Good luck with the cold weather I called my sister in Regina and she said it was -25 (I'm originally from there). Kent
Re: CStetrasil, etc PLUS RECIPE
Thanks Jonathon, now to try and source all the ingredients down here in NZ Cheers, Roger http://lbarker.orcon.net.nz/index1.html on 24/1/2005 7:04 PM, Jonathan B. Britten at jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp wrote: I do not know. I did read that zinc chloride preserves the paste. The now-unavailable Cancema salve has a very long shelf-life.Bottom line: all of the ingredients are modestly priced so you could make it as you need it even if it did go bad. On Monday, Jan 24, 2005, at 13:46 Asia/Tokyo, Roger Barker wrote: Could you please tell me how long this paste could be stored and how would you recommend storing it? Many thanks, Roger B
Re: CS Diabetes, neuropathy, thyroid problems, etc.
I'm mercury toxic and ALA makes me insane, it is horrific. I cannot tolerate very small doses so anyone might want to start low. Dan Nave dn...@mn.nilfisk-advance.com wrote:Re: CS Diabetes, neuropathy, thyroid problems, etc. Can't remember which practitioner (MD / alternative practitioner) it was but he was recommending Alpha Lipoic Acid (ALA) for diabetic neuropathy. His recommendation on dose for those with the condition was 200mg three times a day. Don't just do this and forget about losing weight and following up on a holistic approach! Dan -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CSSolubility of silver chloride in HCl and NaCl
OK, I just got back from the Research Library. The solubility of AgCl with varying amounts of Cl ions is in two references. 1. Forbes, Cole J. Am. Chem. Soc., 1921, 43, 2492. (This is volume II of that years issues). 2. Laitinen Chemical Analysis, 1975, second edition, pages 135-137. The attached graph of the solubility is from the second reference. The graph that is most applicable to our concentrations in the stomach and blood is A, the left hand one. Marshall inline: AGCL.GIF
Re: CS Diabetes, neuropathy, thyroid problems, etc.
Also, if you do a search on words something likehypoglycemia toxic colon you'll come up with some neat stuff. japanese studies link this with diabetes. Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp wrote:AP reported yesterday that doctors in Brazil (?) successfully implanted stem cells from a person with diabetes into the same person's pancreas, enabling that organ to produce insulin and curing the patient's diabetes. No embryonic issues involved in this new method. . . Dan Nave wrote: Re: CS Diabetes, neuropathy, thyroid problems, etc. Can't remember which practitioner (MD / alternative practitioner) it was but he was recommending Alpha Lipoic Acid (ALA) for diabetic neuropathy. His recommendation on dose for those with the condition was 200mg three times a day. Don't just do this and forget about losing weight and following up on a holistic approach!
Re: CStetrasil, etc PLUS RECIPE
Roger, You are quite welcome. Please note that the proprietary Cancema formula has some additional ingredients.I am hoping somewhere to find the recipe for that; in fact, I have asked the atlcancer company to consider releasing this proprietary information if they are unable to start up their company.That is a great deal to ask and if the shoes were on the other feet, I probably would not grant that request myself . . . . JBB On Tuesday, Jan 25, 2005, at 06:29 Asia/Tokyo, Roger Barker wrote: Thanks Jonathon, now to try and source all the ingredients down here in NZ Cheers, Roger http://lbarker.orcon.net.nz/index1.html on 24/1/2005 7:04 PM, Jonathan B. Britten at jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp wrote: I do not know. I did read that zinc chloride preserves the paste. The now-unavailable Cancema salve has a very long shelf-life. Bottom line: all of the ingredients are modestly priced so you could make it as you need it even if it did go bad. On Monday, Jan 24, 2005, at 13:46 Asia/Tokyo, Roger Barker wrote: Could you please tell me how long this paste could be stored and how would you recommend storing it? Many thanks, Roger B
Re: CS Diabetes, neuropathy, thyroid problems, etc.
AP reported yesterday that doctors in Brazil (?) successfully implanted stem cells from a person with diabetes into the same person's pancreas, enabling that organ to produce insulin and curing the patient's diabetes. No embryonic issues involved in this new method. . . On Tuesday, Jan 25, 2005, at 08:46 Asia/Tokyo, Debbie Mcdonald wrote: I'm mercury toxic and ALA makes me insane, it is horrific. I cannot tolerate very small doses so anyone might want to start low. Dan Nave dn...@mn.nilfisk-advance.com wrote: Re: CS Diabetes, neuropathy, thyroid problems, etc. Can't remember which practitioner (MD / alternative practitioner) it was but he was recommending Alpha Lipoic Acid (ALA) for diabetic neuropathy. His recommendation on dose for those with the condition was 200mg three times a day. Don't just do this and forget about losing weight and following up on a holistic approach! Dan -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer! : Mike Devour
Re: CSOff Topic List...
Thanks, Mike. I was having the same 'problem'I wanted to subscribe to the OT list not just read the archives. I followed your instructions and hopefully, within the next day or two (depending on the cyber-gawds), I should start receiving the OT emails. Denise Saskatoon, SK Canada neec...@sasktel.net - Original Message - From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 6:11 AM Subject: Re: CSOff Topic List... ... The web address you're trying to visit is this one, correct? ... http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html Hi Mike. No, I didn't use that address. I used this address: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The reason that I didn't use the one that you noted is because it clearly says *OT Archive* before that address. And I didn't want archives, I wanted the active list. Very good, ma'am! I'm glad we straightened that out. I hope your uncertainty will help others figure out how it works. silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com is the OT list posting address. You send an e-mail there and it goes out to all the subscribers to the OT list, plus to the OT archives at e-scribe. http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html is the web address of the archives. If you don't get the OT list as e-mail, they're the only way to see what's being posted. If you want to get the OT list as e-mail, then go to http://www.silverlist.org and click on the Off Topic List link. Follow the instructions there to sign up. Anybody's who's a member of the main list can post to the OT list without subscribing or doing anything special. The OT list is provided as a place to discuss all the interesting stuff we tend to get into that really would be too off-charter or too detailed for the main list. Thanks for persisting, Marmar. As always, folks, I'm here if you have any questions. My address is in the footer at the bottom of every message. Be well, Mike Devour silver-list owner [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CStetrasil, etc PLUS RECIPE
Good luck with your quest Jonathan. on 25/1/2005 3:07 PM, Jonathan B. Britten at jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp wrote: Roger, You are quite welcome. Please note that the proprietary Cancema formula has some additional ingredients.I am hoping somewhere to find the recipe for that; in fact, I have asked the atlcancer company to consider releasing this proprietary information if they are unable to start up their company.That is a great deal to ask and if the shoes were on the other feet, I probably would not grant that request myself . . . . JBB On Tuesday, Jan 25, 2005, at 06:29 Asia/Tokyo, Roger Barker wrote: Thanks Jonathon, now to try and source all the ingredients down here in NZ
