Re: CS>STINNITUS and CS - any advice or experience?(CES- cranial elect ro-stim)
I have never heard of CS helping with tinnitus but have heard of CES helping with tinnitus. CES (cranial electro stimulation) has been shown to help with tinnitus in many cases. You can buy a relatively inexpensive unit from SOTA called the BT7 ($175) that may help. It is part of the Bob Beck protocol which interestingly enough includes CS. According to the research below CES has shown to be effective in over 82% cases which used the therapy. It is painless and actually quite pleasant and relaxing. Two electrodes attached to a headset sit behind the ears.The SOTA BT7 unit puts out somewhere between 4-500 different frequencies that stimulate healing/relaxation/focus and endorphins which makes you feel warm fuzzies. Definately worth a try. CES is also used to relieve depression, anxiety, and insomnia. You haven't heard much about it because there is way more money in pharmaceuticals. It can be very effective and best of all, zero side effects. Check out braintuner.com/braintuner.htm to see the SOTA BT7. Blessings Steve CES Research Abstracts Engelberg, M, & Bauer, W. Transcutaneous electrical stimulation for tinnitus. Laryngoscope, 95(10):1,167-1,173, 1985. Presented at the Meeting of the Southern Section of the American Laryngological, Rhinological and Otological Society, New Orleans, Louisiana, January, 1985. At the Veterans Administration Medical Center in Cleveland, Ohio, the use of Alpha-Stim electrical stimulation to treat tinnitus was evaluated in a two experiment study. In experiment 1, 7 males, and 3 females from 23 to 69 years old (mean of 43 years) reported a total of 18 ears with tinnitus. Otological and audiological evaluations revealed all subjects except 1 had varying degrees of sensory hearing loss. 1 - 17 treatments of 50 µA Alpha-Stim stimulation was given at 0.5, 1.0, or 2.0 Hz at 13 sites around the ear for 24 seconds to 2 minutes. The tinnitus was matched after each treatment with simulated sounds from a Norwest SG-1 Tinnitus Synthesizer using an ascending procedure. 6 of the 10 subjects reported at least a 60% improvement in 8 of 18 ears, confirmed by tinnitus matching. 3 additional subjects (3 ears) were undecided whether improvement had occurred. The permanence of improvement lasted from 8 hours to 2 months (last contact with the experimenter). In experiment 2, 20 subjects were divided into 2 groups, an Alpha-Stim and a control group, in a single blind protocol. All subjects were male, with either normal hearing or sensory hearing loss, most having idiopathic or noise exposure tinnitus. Each subject received a baseline audiological evaluation utilizing standard equipment referenced to ANSI standards, of air conduction, speech reception threshold, most comfortable loudness level, speech discrimination (W-22 word lists), and when indicated, bone conduction, impedance battery, and tone decay. The treatment was identical to experiment 1 except the current was at 50 or 100 µA, and the stimulus duration was either 12 or 24 seconds at the 13 sites. After each treatment the tinnitus was again analyzed using the same protocol. The control group had the identical procedure repeated twice, the first time without stimulation, followed by actual stimulation. Of 17 ears treated in the experimental group, 2 ears (subject 8, both ears) were perceived as not having improved by stimulation. Thus, 9 of 10 subjects (90%) corresponding to 15 of 17 ears (88%) reported the stimulation as having improved the tinnitus. The decrease in tinnitus frequency for the subjective improvement ranged from 48% in subject 3 to complete remission (none) in the 6 ears combined for subjects 5, 7, 9, and 10. Subject 8 did not perceive a 19% decrease as being significant. In the control group of 15 ears, in only 1 ear did a subject believe there had been a change, and measurements indicated a 13% decrease in frequency. The range of change for the 15 ears was from +16 (after sham stimulation, frequency was measured as higher) to -22%. Once the control group had actual stimulation, 80% reported improvement in at least 1 ear. The measured decrease in tinnitus frequency ranged from 28% to complete remission (none) in 4 subjects. Because both groups in experiment 2 had actual stimulation, the data was pooled. Improvement was perceived by 20 subjects in 27 of 33 ears (82%). In 10 cases there was complete remission. In the remaining 17 ears, the range of frequency decrease was from 28 to 92%. The permanence of the improvement ranged from 20 minutes to at least 6 months (last contact with experimentor). Most of the subjects had either 1 or 2 treatment sessions; however, 1 subject that had 7 sessions found that each session tended to increase the duration of improvement and he concluded that he could live with his tinnitus after the seventh session and requested to be discharged from the program. Neither age, duration of tinnitus prior to stimulation, nor fr
Re: CS>HELP PLEASE Sinus Infection
Can CS be mixed with a small amount of DMSO and then used as a nasal wash? We are probably nearly all doing this now - and adding other stuff, to boot, such as xylitol. And sea salt so the mucous membranes are not so uncomfortable with the distilled water. Or sniffing it or inhaling it. DMSO has been likened to an injection without needles. Thus there are those who add Vit B to it, and get their Vit B shot without a needle. Rowena
Re: CS>STINNITUS and CS - any advice or experience?
Feces in the ear has been known to quickly digest the brain. - Original Message - From: "Marshalee" To: Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 9:17 PM Subject: Re: CS>STINNITUS and CS - any advice or experience? > For what it`s worth. I had a chiropractor a few months ago in another > state who helped mine by tugging on my earlobes. He does kinesiology. > CS has done nothing for my tinnitus, which was caused by my Pug > yapping directly into my ears!! > Marshalee > > > A friend is interested in trying CS for her much-treated, intractable, > > life-ruining tinnitus/ Meniere's Disease. > > Has anyone trodden this path? > > Any information and advice I can pass on to her? > > Any success stories out there? > > Many thanks > > Rowena in Australia -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>HELP PLEASE Sinus Infection
Question regarding CS and DMSO. Can CS be mixed with a small amount of DMSO and then used as a nasal wash? I'm thinking I'd like to use this as a therapy for colds that have already started. I hypothesize that the CS will be able to get into the cells of the sinus cavity where the rhinovirus resides. - Original Message - From: "Himagain" To: Cc: Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 2:44 PM Subject: Re: CS>HELP PLEASE Sinus Infection At 05:02 PM 23/02/05, nancymike wrote: There is ONLY ONE CS that I would trust in my veins. That is Argentyn 23 by Natural Immunogenics in Miami Florida. --- Frankly folks, after 30 years of research in the area, I wouldn't put ANYTHING DIRECTLY into my veins. The body that you inhabit was specifically designed to do things in a certain way. The most vital of all is to not let anything foreign enter the blood system directly. Yes, I know about the dramatic movies with drips and stuff - and injecting sugar *or* salt into the veins ( depending on whether it is a full moon or odd and even day) and the "miracle" of blood transfusions . now there's a good study on its own... Don't take my word for it - look it up. Ask the Religious groups that forbid it - they don't only quote one of the 60-odd versions of the Christian Bibles - they will give you the HARD evidence today. Stuff that will NEVER see the light of day. Rather like the way even mentioning CS and DMSO can end a promising or even top Medical/Scientific Career. At least do the same research you would do before buying an auto or a diswasher Amazing what you can learn. Cheers, Himagain -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Fw: CS>TINNITUS and CS - any advice or experience?
Jim Holmes wrote: Tinnitus can be caused by many separate conditions. It has not helped mine at all. I think some systems of medicine say that it can be caused by silver toxicity. More unverified claims Nina. -Original Message- *From:* Rowena [mailto:new...@aapt.net.au] *Sent:* Thursday, February 24, 2005 9:09 PM *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Subject:* CS>Fw: CS>TINNITUS and CS - any advice or experience? A friend is interested in trying CS for her much-treated, intractable, life-ruining tinnitus/ Meniere's Disease. Has anyone trodden this path? Any information and advice I can pass on to her? Any success stories out there? Many thanks Rowena in Australia Reposted with correction to subject line for sake of archives research! Hi All, This is a great list! I just saw "ringing in the ears" listed as a possible symtom of microwave exposure from cordless/cell phones. I haven't done any followup research on it yet, but it's interesting... http://www.rense.com/general63/FACTS.HTM Chris -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Bird flu question
At 04:28 AM 25/02/05, Dan wrote: Re: CS>Bird flu question This is not my interpretation of what has been going on. However, I think it is best for me to not continue on with this thread so as not to bother the silver list any more than we already have. Go ahead, have the last word... Dan Hi Dan, Why not simply go to the O.T. list and go into detail? It's more fun there! http://www.whale.to/vaccine/sf.html Here is the easy way to subscribe to the Silver Off-topic list - where this discussion should now go: mailto:silver-off-topic-list-requ...@eskimo.com Cheers, Himagain All the evidence is in. Getting it out . ahhh, that's another matter all together -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>STINNITUS and CS - any advice or experience?
For what it`s worth. I had a chiropractor a few months ago in another state who helped mine by tugging on my earlobes. He does kinesiology. CS has done nothing for my tinnitus, which was caused by my Pug yapping directly into my ears!! Marshalee A friend is interested in trying CS for her much-treated, intractable, life-ruining tinnitus/ Meniere's Disease. Has anyone trodden this path? Any information and advice I can pass on to her? Any success stories out there? Many thanks Rowena in Australia -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Re[2]: CS>Bird flu question/NOW vaccination
At 02:43 AM 25/02/05, you wrote: Yes I remember reading that to, it had something to do with the vaccinations people, especially soldiers had been given, sorry can't remember where I read it. BW, Sheila C Hi Sheila & folks, There is a remarkable amount of non-hysterical data here on vaccinations - and the ones describing the astounding fact that people have been brainwashed into (out of?) remembering that the vaccine-caused devastation of the early 1900's was VERY commonly understood by the normal people of the day, here. I have even heard illiterate Academics say " If what you claim is true - then what about the natural epidemics like the 1918 incredible devastation"? They really think vaccinations started in the fifties(?) with the first great marketing campaigns to flog them along with deadly Chest X-Rays and need we go on? http://www.whale.to/vaccine/sf.html Here is the easy way to subscribe to the Silver Off-topic list where this discussion should now go: mailto:silver-off-topic-list-requ...@eskimo.com Cheers, Himagain All the evidence is in. Getting it out . ahhh, that's another matter all together -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Thank you
Thanks for your responses, I personally don't fear anything that the media put's out...since the Y2K joke I never listened again. I would not dream of getting any vaccine's either. Just very curious to know how strong the CS is and what it's limitations are. I think it would be better than any so called antidote that the government would come up with . I use the hydorgen peroxide in my ear canals as well, but not up my nose it BURNS big time where the CS does not...you can use the CS as well in the ear canals can't you? Thanks for the info everyone..knowledge is a wonderful thingDebbie
RE: CS>Fw: CS>TINNITUS and CS - any advice or experience?
Tinnitus can be caused by many separate conditions. It has not helped mine at all. I think some systems of medicine say that it can be caused by silver toxicity. More unverified claims Nina. -Original Message- From: Rowena [mailto:new...@aapt.net.au] Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 9:09 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>Fw: CS>TINNITUS and CS - any advice or experience? A friend is interested in trying CS for her much-treated, intractable, life-ruining tinnitus/ Meniere's Disease. Has anyone trodden this path? Any information and advice I can pass on to her? Any success stories out there? Many thanks Rowena in Australia Reposted with correction to subject line for sake of archives research!
CS>Fw: CS>TINNITUS and CS - any advice or experience?
A friend is interested in trying CS for her much-treated, intractable, life-ruining tinnitus/ Meniere's Disease. Has anyone trodden this path? Any information and advice I can pass on to her? Any success stories out there? Many thanks Rowena in Australia Reposted with correction to subject line for sake of archives research!
CS>This guy thinks the 1918 epidemic was caused by vaccines.
Please discuss this on the OT list, I am posting it on the Ag list because it has been mentioned here. http://www.whale.to/vaccine/sf1.html
Re: CS>Varicosities... and hemorrhoids!
Gee, Jim, have we met? You describe me so well. :-D sol Jim Holmes wrote: And some of us can read perfectly good work and fail to file it, or not have time to do research to make a point, and know that it is on a hard drive on that old defunct computer in the corner. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.4.0 - Release Date: 2/22/2005 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>STINNITUS and CS - any advice or experience?
A friend is interested in trying CS for her much-treated, intractable, life-ruining tinnitus/ Meniere's Disease. Has anyone trodden this path? Any information and advice I can pass on to her? Any success stories out there? Many thanks Rowena in Australia
RE: CS>Varicosities... and hemorrhoids!
Yes Nina. And some of us can read perfectly good work and fail to file it, or not have time to do research to make a point, and know that it is on a hard drive on that old defunct computer in the corner. Did you try and contact Bart Flick? -Original Message- From: Nina Whit [mailto:ninaw...@webtv.net] Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 3:01 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CS>Varicosities... and hemorrhoids! Please list your researchers and peer review of the documentation, Anyone can state researchers said this or that. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>Varicosities... and hemorrhoids!
In the right context, MAY can be completely scientific. Such as, It has been proven that in some climates daffodils MAY bloom in MAY. -Original Message- From: Nina Whit [mailto:ninaw...@webtv.net] Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 3:03 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Varicosities... and hemorrhoids! Provide documentation for your statement, MAY is not scientific. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Bird flu question
At 04:54 AM 24/02/05, Dan wrote: I think that the response below is basically a facile rationalization to support and perpetuate a particular personal viewpoint. There were flu pandemics in the 19th and 20th centuries. These were certainly not made and spread on purpose by governments. And, you should learn something from watching the machinations of the "Amazing" Randy; just because something is possible doesn't mean that it is being done in any particular situation. Dan Hi Dan & folks, The Great Randy is a good example - unfortunately not for your case. He has been thoroughly discredited by serious researchers for his tactics and lack of honesty. As Li Pi Tze said: " Always follow the gold, for where it nests is the truth" Look to who is paying the proponent. Want to hear something really amazing? A proven Whistleblower high up in the USA government recently told a couple of select groups that it appears that the "Chem Trails" are really real! BUT They are desperate attempts by the Govt. to secretly repair the damages done to the upper atmosphere by experiments carried out under the HAARP project. ( A readily verifiable - from their own records- real insanity programme). Not to knock you all off! As for whether YOUR Govt. could do such a thing - go look up the "Tuskegee Experiment" which continues to this day. Or spend 8 seconds thinking about CS and DMSO for just a couple of downtrodden things Peace! Or else! Himagain looking into two opposed mirrors - a picture of real reality? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>ultimate expert
At 04:37 AM 24/02/05, Dan wrote: John, I am surprised that you keep quoting William Campbell Douglass II, MD. Many of the things that he strenuously advocates such as heavy meat eating are diametrically opposed to the advice you are giving... Not directed at John specifically, but, if you take everything Dr. Mercola, for instance, has written about what is good for you and what is bad for you, I bet you would find that you can't eat or drink anything. (sigh) Dan Hi Dan & folks, I only said "always a good read"! He does have a lot of non-mainstream interesting stuff. As for the rest of your comments, that is pretty well the truth! Almost everything you eat today and the environment you inhabit *IS* bad for you. :-) *Everything* has been corrupted to an incredible degree. That is what prompted the creation of the very word "MATRIXIDE" by Kilneth and the Website. It really looks like, on the massive mountain of ever-growing evidence, that it is deliberate - they ARE trying to kill us! HOWEVER - As the *original* "Good Book" the ancient Ku a'la warns us from 4890 years ago: There is nothing between you and the god. Except what you put there. It is only the fear and laziness of being personally responsible that allows parasitical Kings and Priests to exist. " In other words, do your own research and never accept any other being as the *ultimate* guru. They are all only human. Even Jesus overstepped the limits and got himself crucified - and I don't think many people see anyone out there as potent as Jesus, today, do they? Or do they... ?:-) Peace! Or else! HimagainSomebody felt sorry for his loss of mangoes ( a local reader) and sent me some "Dragon Fruit". Never heard of them before. Horrible looking things like a dwarf pineapple and red, but a fabulous taste! Sorta fruit-saladish-mulberry?? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>offtopic list
please subscribe me to the off-topic list. thanks
RE: CS>Bird flu question
Hi folks, This would be funny if it wasn't so serious! Remember the horror of the SARS "epidemic"? More people are killed by meteorites each year. The only "protection" that we all need is a healthy immune system. There are no shortcuts. Only the unfit are culled by Mother Nature. The bottom 20%. The worst epidemics in history only ever killed about 20-25% of the existing population - including those who starved due to breakdown of the social system. PREVENTION: ( "1 0z is better than a pound of cure") Eat properly - avoid drugs ( *especially* the aptly named anti-biotics-) vitally avoid vaccinations of ANY kind and remember that ANY exercise is better than no exercise at all. The human body has 640-odd muscles and they begin breaking down after only 48 hours of non-use (exercise). Tai Chi properly done can be done by anyone not paralysed or dead. Just one hour per day of no TV will do wonders for your mind and using it to walk will do wonders for your body. Very primitive people walk about 4 hours per day. Never run except to chase, never hurry. Oh - and they eat 20% of the weight/calories of food you do. Oh - and they only eat what is in season. Oh - and they only eat freshly picked local. The way you were designed to operate .. :-) Himagain I think this is all hype personally. How would they know what the next flu is going to be before it mutates into it? Unless they are making it themselves and spreading it. They are just trying to keep the fear level up, just like all the security alerts the government announces that NEVER lead to anything. General fear of the people means more control for the government. Marshall Dan Nave wrote: > I was just listening to a program on Minnesota Public Radio (Tuesday, > Morning Edition, you should be able to listen to it on the net, Google > MPR). The person being interviewed was Michael Osterholm, (Michael > Osterholm is director of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and > Policy at the University of Minnesota). Anyway, he basically went on a > 1 hour rant about the fact that a bird flu pandemic is coming and how it > would not be physically possible to ramp up our industrial capacity for > making vaccines, antivirals, and antibiotics in time for everyone who > will need it. > -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>HELP PLEASE Sinus Infection
At 05:02 PM 23/02/05, nancymike wrote: There is ONLY ONE CS that I would trust in my veins. That is Argentyn 23 by Natural Immunogenics in Miami Florida. --- Frankly folks, after 30 years of research in the area, I wouldn't put ANYTHING DIRECTLY into my veins. The body that you inhabit was specifically designed to do things in a certain way. The most vital of all is to not let anything foreign enter the blood system directly. Yes, I know about the dramatic movies with drips and stuff - and injecting sugar *or* salt into the veins ( depending on whether it is a full moon or odd and even day) and the "miracle" of blood transfusions . now there's a good study on its own... Don't take my word for it - look it up. Ask the Religious groups that forbid it - they don't only quote one of the 60-odd versions of the Christian Bibles - they will give you the HARD evidence today. Stuff that will NEVER see the light of day. Rather like the way even mentioning CS and DMSO can end a promising or even top Medical/Scientific Career. At least do the same research you would do before buying an auto or a diswasher Amazing what you can learn. Cheers, Himagain -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>reply to Tony - and solving the O.T. mystery
At 02:46 PM 23/02/05, Tony wrote: Hi John, It is no wonder that most of your off topic posts go to the CS list and not to the OT list :-) You have the wrong email address. See below for the correct address for the Off Topic list. On 22 Feb 2005 at 8:15, Himagain wrote: > Hi folks, > Even *I* get stunned sometimes when something is really brought home! > > And do go sign up for the Off-Topic list! :-) http://silverlist.org > Silver is fabulous - but it is a small part of staying alive! -- Hi Tony & folks, No Tony, this is a common error of people on this list and many others - I RESPOND to matters on the CS list raised there. I EXPAND via O.T. or nowadays - bored with repeating the same things over and over - send people to http://fablor.com/Matrixide . You can POST immediately to O.T. list *from within* the CS list ( at the bottom) But to RECEIVE all the list posts - you need to go here and SUBSCRIBE http://silverlist.org ( look in left column - click on OFF TOPIC LIST and . subscribe.) This is where most people get confused I would think. Actually Mike does a good job in keeping the CS focused - that is what a good list is all about : focus. .. with a bit of elastic :-) Cheers, Himagain -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Varicosities... and hemorrhoids!
Provide documentation for your statement, MAY is not scientific. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>Varicosities... and hemorrhoids!
Please list your researchers and peer review of the documentation, Anyone can state researchers said this or that. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>acidosis/alkalinosis request
I'd like to have some online resources/links to learn about this. How does one check for either one, etc. TIA, sol -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.4.0 - Release Date: 2/22/2005 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Swelling under tongue
Hiya Sol, The stone came from the saliva gland inside the mouth, under the tongue. Both the gland inside the mouth and the one under the chin were quite swollen, and we could even see a white spot that looked like a blockage at the end of the gland under the tongue. Another thing he did that I forgot to mention was drink a lot of lemon juice in his water. This caused the glands to produce more saliva and aided the stone in it's journey out. Hope this is helpful, Raine - Original Message - From: sol Raine, Can you clarify how and from where the stone popped out? Did it just come out through the skin under the chin or what? TIA, sol Raine wrote: > My husband just had this very thing! (It was the reason I went to the > health food store and made our first purchase of CS.) > After a few days of warm compresses on the gland under the chin, a > stone the size of a grain of sand popped right out. Problem solved. > > Be sure not to overlook the cause, and that's likely too little water. > > -Raine, newbie >
Re: CS>Swelling under tongue
Raine, Can you clarify how and from where the stone popped out? Did it just come out through the skin under the chin or what? TIA, sol Raine wrote: My husband just had this very thing! (It was the reason I went to the health food store and made our first purchase of CS.) After a few days of warm compresses on the gland under the chin, a stone the size of a grain of sand popped right out. Problem solved. Be sure not to overlook the cause, and that's likely too little water. -Raine, newbie -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.4.0 - Release Date: 2/22/2005 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Bird flu question
Re: CS>Bird flu question From: Marshall Dudley wrote: Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 08:32:13 >Can you give me one way in which a virus that has been around for probably millions of years in birds that have been around for millions of years and have not mutated this way will mutate into a specific flu within the next year, one that the pharms already making a vaccine for? How about that for a loaded question? I think that this is your interpretation, based on your world view, of what you thought you heard one person say... This is not my interpretation of what has been going on. However, I think it is best for me to not continue on with this thread so as not to bother the silver list any more than we already have. Go ahead, have the last word... Dan -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Swelling under tongue
My husband just had this very thing! (It was the reason I went to the health food store and made our first purchase of CS.) After a few days of warm compresses on the gland under the chin, a stone the size of a grain of sand popped right out. Problem solved. Be sure not to overlook the cause, and that's likely too little water. -Raine, newbie - Original Message - From: Marshalee Dear Theresa, My Ex had something like this, (before I knew about CS). It turned out to be a stone in the salivary glands, about the size of a grain of rice. Sorta like a kidney or gall stone. Once it came out he got well, but he was quite sick until it did. Marshalee
Re: CS>Swelling under tongue
Could be a plugged salivary gland. stuff At 07:39 AM 2/24/2005 -0600, Teresa wrote: Hello all-- I have a question: My husband [who will nebulize with CS, but not drink it out of concerns about it being toxic to the nervous system] has just slightly recovered from a virus. This morning he woke up with quite a bit of swelling and tenderness under his tongue. I can feel, under his chin, an area that is hard and swollen, also. We are totally confused as to what this might be. Neither he or I have ever seen or heard of anything like it. Any ideas? Thanks! Theresa No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.4.0 - Release Date: 2/22/2005 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>Varicosities... and hemorrhoids!
Researchers say that changes in the electrical currents in the tissues facilitates healing in little understood ways, beyond preventing the damage caused by pathogens. Try comparing a burn treated with Neosporin with one on which you spray CS. -Original Message- From: Nina Whit [mailto:ninaw...@webtv.net] Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 8:59 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CS>Varicosities... and hemorrhoids! Cs helps healing because it makes an area sterile. Sterility is needed for new tissue growth. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>Swelling under tongue
Could it be swollen sub-lingual lymph nodes? -Original Message- From: Theresa Widmer [mailto:tlwid...@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 6:39 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>Swelling under tongue Hello all-- I have a question: My husband [who will nebulize with CS, but not drink it out of concerns about it being toxic to the nervous system] has just slightly recovered from a virus. This morning he woke up with quite a bit of swelling and tenderness under his tongue. I can feel, under his chin, an area that is hard and swollen, also. We are totally confused as to what this might be. Neither he or I have ever seen or heard of anything like it. Any ideas? Thanks! Theresa
CS>Re[2]: CS>Bird flu question
Yes I remember reading that to, it had something to do with the vaccinations people, especially soldiers had been given, sorry can't remember where I read it. BW, Sheila C Thursday, February 24, 2005, 6:20:40 AM, you wrote: JH> I read something recently that supported the theory that one of the recent JH> great global flu pandemics was created by a release. Perhaps on rense.com. JH> I will try and find it. JH> Jim JH> -Original Message- JH> From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] JH> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 3:18 PM JH> To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>>Bird flu question JH> Dan Nave wrote: >> I think that the response below is basically a facile rationalization to >> support and perpetuate a particular personal viewpoint. >> >> There were flu pandemics in the 19th and 20th centuries. These were >> certainly not made and spread on purpose by governments. JH> They were also not announced in advance by any government. To announce JH> something in JH> advance, that after millions of years a certain mutation of a certain virus JH> is JH> expected to happen next year seems awfully far fetched. If this mutation had JH> already JH> happened and was spreading that would be another matter. But the newscast I JH> heard JH> was them saying that it WAS GOING TO HAPPEN. >> And, you >> should learn something from watching the machinations of the "Amazing" >> Randy; just because something is possible doesn't mean that it is being >> done in any particular situation. JH> You have to look at the flip side. What are the odds that a certain JH> something that JH> has not happened in 10 billion years will happen next year spontaneously. JH> Not JH> likely, unless something else is at work. As I said, I think it is just to JH> try and JH> keep the fear factor up, especially since many people are not taking the JH> terrorist JH> warnings seriously anymore. JH> Marshall >> >> >> Dan >> >> Re: CS>Bird flu question >> >> From: Marshall Dudley (view other messages by this author) >> Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 10:26:01 >> >> JH> JH> >> >> I think this is all hype personally. How would they know what the next >> flu is going >> to be before it mutates into it? Unless they are making it themselves >> and spreading >> it. >> >> They are just trying to keep the fear level up, just like all the >> security alerts >> the government announces that NEVER lead to anything. General fear of >> the people >> means more control for the government. >> >> Marshall >> >> -- >> The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. >> >> Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org >> >> To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com >> Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html >> >> Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com >> OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html >> >> List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Bird flu question
Dan Nave wrote: > Well, another flu pandemic "will" surely happen. "When" is another > question. Sure it will, but he did not say any flu, but said that it would be a certain mutation from a certain virus that birds carry. > > > I have reasonable confidence that biologists are now more able to > understand some of the vectors and conditions that lead to the creation > of a flu that becomes pandemic in our population. The conditions for > this happening are occurring. This is mostly a matter of facts, a > practical matter, not a philosophical or political matter. > > Where you get millions and billions of years is beyond me... I am sure these birds with that virus have been around for millions or billions of years, yet this predicted mutation has not occurred yet. Birds and viruses are not a new to this earth. > Next year... etc... That is what I heard the NIH scientist they were interviewing said, it would be within a year. > > It's happened at least 3 times in the 20th century. That is incorrect. I know for a fact that the worse one was a swine flu, not related to that specific bird virus they indicated it would come from. I am not saying we will not have new flus, I am sure we will, what I am unconvinced about is that they can say that a certain virus that has not mutated yet in birds will do so within the year when it has not happened since the creation of that virus and birds. Statistically this is very unlikely to happen naturally. > You need to > listen to someone who presents the well reasoned arguments and reasons > for this position, not some male or female bimbo who flunked out of > science class and has never heard of statistics who is reporting on your > local TV station... The person I recall being interviewed was a researcher at NIH. He may have been a bimbo, not much way to tell. It is unlikely however that he flunked out of science class and got a job with NIH. They normally require graduate education. Can you give me one way in which a virus that has been around for probably millions of years in birds that have been around for millions of years and have not mutated this way will mutate into a specific flu within the next year, one that the pharms already making a vaccine for? I just don't see how this is possible, except to the extent that there may be a chance of one in several trillion and they get really lucky. The only way I can see this as a possibility is if the pharms are using psychics that know DNA, or going into the future to get material from people who have gotten this yet to have occurred flu. Neither of those possibilities seem likely to me. > > > Even if you don't believe in the effectiveness of vaccine, this does > not debunk the fact that there may be a serious flu epidemic in the near > future. Why do you keep coming back to this? This is not an arguing point, no one is disputing this. I am SURE there will be more than one serious one some time in the future. It may be in the next year. It may even be a bird flu. But I am not convinced it will be exactly the one that they are making vaccines for that does not exist yet. Statistically that should be almost impossible, unless they are planning on releasing it after the vaccines are made into the general population. (Interestingly a couple of weeks ago one of the Medical Investigation episodes was about such intentional releases of 2 new flu strains by a pharm researcher.) BTW, I DO have a strong statistics background. > > > As far as Michael Osterholm and his presentation. He is well known in > Minnesota for his work in public health and I don't believe his > integrity is in question. However, I do feel that he is presenting the > worst case scenario in order to increase public awareness in the hopes > that the public will apply pressure on government to get ready for what > he feels is a real problem and to provide for those things which he > feels will help allay the problem... A little EIS on hand, and it should not be a problem for most people. But on the one hand they suppress that information, and on the other they pander fear for those who don't know about EIS and other natural ways to stop or minimize it. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Varicosities... and hemorrhoids!
Nina, There may be more to it than that. If silver ions are present their electrical charge may aid in the formation of new tissue as well as destroying any pathogens. - Original Message - From: "Nina Whit" To: Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 7:58 AM Subject: RE: CS>Varicosities... and hemorrhoids! Cs helps healing because it makes an area sterile. Sterility is needed for new tissue growth. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>Varicosities... and hemorrhoids!
Cs helps healing because it makes an area sterile. Sterility is needed for new tissue growth. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Bird flu question
Well, another flu pandemic "will" surely happen. "When" is another question. I have reasonable confidence that biologists are now more able to understand some of the vectors and conditions that lead to the creation of a flu that becomes pandemic in our population. The conditions for this happening are occurring. This is mostly a matter of facts, a practical matter, not a philosophical or political matter. Where you get millions and billions of years is beyond me... Next year... etc... It's happened at least 3 times in the 20th century. You need to listen to someone who presents the well reasoned arguments and reasons for this position, not some male or female bimbo who flunked out of science class and has never heard of statistics who is reporting on your local TV station... Even if you don't believe in the effectiveness of vaccine, this does not debunk the fact that there may be a serious flu epidemic in the near future. As far as Michael Osterholm and his presentation. He is well known in Minnesota for his work in public health and I don't believe his integrity is in question. However, I do feel that he is presenting the worst case scenario in order to increase public awareness in the hopes that the public will apply pressure on government to get ready for what he feels is a real problem and to provide for those things which he feels will help allay the problem... Dan Re: CS>Bird flu question From: Marshall Dudley wrote: Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 14:24:59 Dan Nave wrote: > I think that the response below is basically a facile rationalization to > support and perpetuate a particular personal viewpoint. > > There were flu pandemics in the 19th and 20th centuries. These were > certainly not made and spread on purpose by governments. They were also not announced in advance by any government. To announce something in advance, that after millions of years a certain mutation of a certain virus is expected to happen next year seems awfully far fetched. If this mutation had already happened and was spreading that would be another matter. But the newscast I heard was them saying that it WAS GOING TO HAPPEN. > And, you > should learn something from watching the machinations of the "Amazing" > Randy; just because something is possible doesn't mean that it is being > done in any particular situation. You have to look at the flip side. What are the odds that a certain something that has not happened in 10 billion years will happen next year spontaneously. Not likely, unless something else is at work. As I said, I think it is just to try and keep the fear factor up, especially since many people are not taking the terrorist warnings seriously anymore. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>CS
Vast choice, and important to remember that nothing works for everyone, and absolutely anything no matter how "out there" will work for someone. It is important to remember that herbs can have interactions, with conventional drugs, and with each other. Important to check for interactions before starting any new herbal therapies. There are many online sites that have herbal interaction info. And there is a PDR for herbs. Most of the German commission e reports can be found online here http://www.herbalgram.org/iherb/commissione/herbcategories.html I have the James A Duke database site somewhere but can't find it right now, of course. sol Thomas Turk wrote: . There is such a vast choice of cures, that, yes, there WILL be confusingm but many have put together protocols, and you can also, even combining some of them. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.4.0 - Release Date: 2/22/2005 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Swelling under tongue
Dear Theresa, My Ex had something like this, (before I knew about CS). It turned out to be a stone in the salivary glands, about the size of a grain of rice. Sorta like a kidney or gall stone. Once it came out he got well, but he was quite sick until it did. Marshalee Hello all-- I have a question: My husband [who will nebulize with CS, but not drink it out of concerns about it being toxic to the nervous system] has just slightly recovered from a virus. This morning he woke up with quite a bit of swelling and tenderness under his tongue. I can feel, under his chin, an area that is hard and swollen, also. We are totally confused as to what this might be. Neither he or I have ever seen or heard of anything like it. Any ideas? Thanks! Theresa -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Swelling under tongue
A swollen lymph node? Gargle with CS and spit it out if he wont swallow. Use some collostrum to help his immune system. G Murray Theresa Widmer wrote: Hello all-- I have a question: My husband [who will nebulize with CS, but not drink it out of concerns about it being toxic to the nervous system] has just slightly recovered from a virus. This morning he woke up with quite a bit of swelling and tenderness under his tongue. I can feel, under his chin, an area that is hard and swollen, also. We are totally confused as to what this might be. Neither he or I have ever seen or heard of anything like it. Any ideas? Thanks! Theresa No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.4.0 - Release Date: 2/22/2005
CS>Swelling under tongue
Hello all-- I have a question: My husband [who will nebulize with CS, but not drink it out of concerns about it being toxic to the nervous system] has just slightly recovered from a virus. This morning he woke up with quite a bit of swelling and tenderness under his tongue. I can feel, under his chin, an area that is hard and swollen, also. We are totally confused as to what this might be. Neither he or I have ever seen or heard of anything like it. Any ideas? Thanks! TheresaNo virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.4.0 - Release Date: 2/22/2005
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If a 10ppm batch of EIS is made from a 0. silver anode, the 0.0001 fraction of impurity would amount to 1 part per billion (ppb) in the batch. Does any impurity element have a noticeable clinical effect, toxic or nontoxic, at a level of 1 ppb? Matthew
CS>CS
Cindy is confused by naturapaths contradictions. I would rather call it different bui effective protocols. Explore a little and find that there are thousands of healing herbs with their KNOWN some non toxic, some toxic, active chemicals. see Dr Jim Duke's website. There are also hundreds of naturally occurring and man made substances, that heal. vitamins, minerals, etc. see The Vita Nutrient Solution. Dr Robert Atkins. Then there are effective electrical gadgets, Rife machine, Hulda Clark zapper, Dr Fhi's mineral lamp, colloidal silver makers etc. with their multitude of benfits. Then we have homeopathy, Reiki, essences, accupressure/puncture and so on. . There is such a vast choice of cures, that, yes, there WILL be confusingm but many have put together protocols, and you can also, even combining some of them. As an example in cancer cure we have the Rife machine... essiac from herbalhealer.com ptotocol plus CS, anti parasite and 10 or so other substances ... the zapper from the Hulda Clark protocol plus CS, antiparasite and detoxing,.. from Dr. Chi. mainly Chinese herbs and mushrooms. accupressure and his mineral lamp. I have combined some of these protocols, and cured terminals with one week to live. Thomas Turk Use MSN Tool Bar to chat with friends and family. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
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If the Ag content is "+", I too don't understand why they wouldn't release the assay? - Original Message - From: Jim Holmes To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 12:20 AM Subject: RE: CS>Re: I am curious about what reason they give for not publishing the assay. -Original Message- From: Ron [mailto:r...@core.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 4:06 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>Re: Just got this Ron Sorry for the the delay, but this is the first time I am seeing your request. In answer to your questions, assays are taken on the purity of all gold and silver that is used to produce maple leaf coins. Actually the assays come out higher than the stated on the coins and each coin is actually slightly heavier than the weight indicated on the coins. This "giveaway" is factored into the cost of production. Unfortunately, we do not publish the actual assay results. I hope this helps. David Madge Executive Director Bullion & Refinery Services - Original Message - From: Ron To: refin...@mint.ca Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 4:38 AM THIRD REQUEST... I would like to verify the stated "four 9", (), (99.99%) purity of the Five Dollar Silver Maple Leaf coins. Would you please answer these questions about the purity of the silver, and the % of content of other minerals, you use in minting your five dollars Silver Maple Leaf coins. Are assayer samples taken and tested for purity for each run of minting of the coins? Are assayer samples & testing done for each year of mintage? Are any of these reports available to the public? How can I get a copy of these reports for each of the years these coins have been minted? Thanks, Ron
CS>re Bird flu discussion.
I have a home in Thailand, see kamalabeachestate.com, its the first villa on the left bottom of the aerial shot. BTW, we did miss the tsunami because we had not yet left the estate that morning... and thje villa was 3 metres above the crest of the big wave. Back to bird flu. One shouldnt really be too concernedd about the bird flu. One article in the Bangkok English newspaper quoted a medical officer. .' A Thai teenager, who 'gave his dying-of-bird-flu fighting cockrel, ' the kiss of life', for a lenghty period, caught the bird flu and died'. Others that have died in SE Asia but NOT in contact with 'birds', were those who were caring for a bird flu victim and were NOT taking BASIC precautions.. That second item is published in rense.com. this day. On our regular trips to Thailand, the last thing we think about is the bird flu, although our guests sometimes prefer not to touch chickens or eggs when visiting. With the plentiful sea food, beef, pork one can do that. And take a shot of CS every morning!!! Thomas Turk Get 10Mb extra storage for MSN Hotmail. Subscribe Now! -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
