CSsuper cure ?

2006-02-14 Thread Peter
http://asia.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalCellularDefense

http://www.waiora.com/

 zeolite ?

CSI don't know,,,

2006-02-14 Thread aKa Jhon






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Re: CSsuper cure ? / Liquid Zeolite

2006-02-14 Thread Nenah Sylver
- Original Message -
From: Peter 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 5:50 AM
Subject: CSsuper cure ?


http://asia.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalCellularDefense

http://www.waiora.com/

 zeolite ?

==
Yeah. Zeolite. Have you ever used kitty litter? The main (or only) ingredient 
is zeolite, a volcanic rock that absorbs and traps odors. It does this in two 
ways: One, zeolite has a negative charge, and toxins generally have a positive 
charge. So the zeolite naturally attracts them. Two, the molecules of zeolite 
are shaped like a honeycomb. So once the toxins are attracted to the zeolite, 
they are stuck to it.

Scientsts have figured out a way to harness the powers of zeolite to chelate 
heavy metals and other poisons from the body by producing a food grade zeolite 
liquid that you add to water. Since zeolite works electrically and mechanically 
rather than chemically, it is completely safe.

Among other toxins, zeolite binds to heavy metals. It will grab the item with 
the highest affinity for the zeolite cage. Contributing factors for affinity 
include size, charge, molecular weight and structure. If the zeolite has 
grabbed onto something of lower affinity and then spots something with higher 
affinity, it will let go of the lower affinity substance and attract the higher 
affinity substance.

So let's say you have mercury and aluminum in your system. The zeolite comes 
along and attracts the aluminum. But then as it's traveling through the body, 
it encounters mercury. Since the mercury has a higher affinity, the zeolite 
drops the aluminum and picks up the mercury. The zeolite will continue its work 
eliminating the mercury until all the mercury is excreted from the body (60% 
through the urine, 40% through the feces). 

People who are highly toxic and overweight may go through a period of not 
feeling great. That's because fat cells have an affinity for these metals. One 
main function of fat cells is to surround and encapsulate the dangerous junk, 
which protects you. Many people who are overweight would be poisoned by the 
metals in their system were it not for the fatty tissue that keeps the metals 
in stasis and prevents them from traveling through the bloodstream and damaging 
the organs and glands. 



Anyway, let's say you have both mercury and aluminum in your system. The 
zeolite grabs onto the mercury to be excreted. However, some aluminum (or other 
lower-affinity metal) that was held in stasis in the fat cells is now in the 
bloodstream, because the zeolite had attracted it and then dumped it when it 
encountered the mercury. Therefore, if you're really toxic, you might feel 
worse before you feel better. Some people who are less toxic feel better right 
away or after only a few days. It depends on the person.

The good news is that zeolite raises the pH of the body (makes it more 
alkaline) while it's doing its job. I am personally willing to endure some 
discomfort for awhile to get various toxins out of my system. This is 
especially easy because there are days that I feel terrific and full of energy 
when taking this product.

Someone had asked me about possible kidney overload. This doesn't seem to be an 
issue, because less than half of the zeolite-bound junk is excreted as urine.


I recently became a distributor for the MLM company that distributes Cellular 
Defense. When two people in one month told me about this product, I went 
No...Not another MLM! But I really took notice when the third person, my 
naturopath friend Kae, told me about the zeolite and the results of her own 
tests. Kae doesn't like to trust even good scientific studies without verifying 
the data for herself. So she took off the labels of four bottles and sent them 
to four clients with simple instructions on how much to take. She didn't tell 
them what it was supposed to do.

One of her clients had cancer. The women was scheduled for surgery in a week to 
have her tumor removed. When the doctor cut her open, he asked, Where's the 
cancer? Kae told me it was too bad that the woman wasn't tested first to see 
if she still had cancer -- but there was no reason for her to be tested. Had 
Kae told her that the negatively-charged zeolite grabs onto toxic 
positively-charged human tissue, which includes cancerous tumors, that would 
have tainted the experiment.

There are some good products that you can get only through MLMs. So for now, at 
least, I'm willing to go that route. There is the usual company ad copy at 
http://my.waiora.com/home.php?860050  , but anyone who's interested can email 
me *privately* and I'll send you some additional documentation as Word and/or 
PDF attachments.

I'd love to hear what you all think about this product. I just ordered four 
bottles (it comes in lots of four) and one is spoken for -- but I have three 
left. I will sell it at exactly my cost to anyone on this list who'd like to 
experiment with it. The more data, the 

Re: CSsuper cure ? / detoxing from mercury

2006-02-14 Thread Nenah Sylver
One thing I just learned but forgot to mention, about how to properly use not 
only liquid zeolite Cellular Defense but ANY detox program involving mercury:

Mercury destroys nerve cells by clipping off the top string-like portions of 
the dendrite (nerve cell body) and also by stripping off the myelin sheath that 
surrounds the stem of the nerve cell. With the nervous system so damaged, 
even the best chelation agents in the world -- chlorella, cilantro, liquid 
zeolite -- will not be able to eliminate the mercury because the body will not 
easily recognize that the heavy metal is present.

The nervous system must be repaired before the chelation begins. One of the 
best ways I know to repair the nervous system is by making a tea from the tops 
of oats. This is the very tip of the dried green oat -- NOT the straw, which 
still works but not as well. After a month or two, the chelating will work much 
better. 

Best,
Nenah

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Re: CSToxoplasma gondii

2006-02-14 Thread Susan
Hence, the proliferation of parasitic infections!!!? Let's take back our power!
   
  Susan

V vzo...@yahoo.com wrote:
  Hi Jim,

there is probably some organism that makes us pay taxes and tolerate a 
parasitic government.




Take care,
V


 How does the parasite benefit from rats 
 going to areas in which cats have urinated?

 Normal rats avoid cat urine areas like the plague; they know they are more
 likely to be eaten where it is found. Toxoplasma gondii modifies that
 behavior so that the rat goes to a cat urine area and waits there to be
 eaten. 

 The cat eats the rat. The gondii needs to live in the cat for part of its
 life cycle. It must live part of its life in a cat and part in a rat. How
 about that 

 The point is that an organism can modify behavior of the host, to the
 benefit of the organism and the death of the host. 

 There are several other examples in the article. 

 Really spooky stuff. 

 Think about genetically engineered variants of that organism. 

 -Original Message-
 From: Jonathan B. Britten [mailto:jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp] 
 Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 7:56 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSToxoplasma gondii

 This is not quite clear to me. How does the parasite benefit from rats 
 going to areas in which cats have urinated?

 If the parasite can survive in rats, why would there be a need for 
 infected rats to be killed by cats? This is the only means by which I 
 can imagine some benefit to the parasite, that is, a chance to infect 
 more cats. Is the rat not as good a host? Its not clear.

 Also not clear is what benefit to the parasite human infestation might 
 yield.

 The information is very interesting, but some key details are missing I 
 think. I can't quite follow it. Can anyone clarify?



 On Tuesday, Feb 14, 2006, at 00:36 Asia/Tokyo, Dan Nave wrote:

 In fact, some of the
 infected
 rats actually seek out the cat urine-marked areas again and again. The
 parasite alters the mind (and thus the behavior) of the rat for its
 own
 benefit.


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Re: CSbehaviour modification was Toxoplasma gondii

2006-02-14 Thread Rich Adams


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The point is that an organism can modify behavior of the host, to the
benefit of the organism and the death of the host. 



http://www.boingboing.net/2006/02/03/wasp_performs_roachb.html

Now there is some behaviour modification.

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Re: CSsuper cure ? / Liquid Zeolite

2006-02-14 Thread Pat
Nena said, One main   function of fat cells is to surround and encapsulate the 
dangerous junk, which   protects you.
  Maybe I shouldn't be dieting?  hehehehe  Really, by losing  weight, are we 
releasing poisons?  Think I'll go out back and cut  off some oat tipsoops, 
don't have any, is there somewhere you can  buy them in tea-making form?  
  
  That wasp in roach article is stranger than any science fiction  
  
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Re: CSToxoplasma gondii

2006-02-14 Thread Marshall Dudley
That is not the only parasite that does that as well. Leucochloridium
paradoxum infect snails and birds, and when they are in the snails they move
into the tentacles and begin to pulsate in there to attract a bird which then
will peck it off and eat it and get infected. They also cause the snail to
move out of hiding places into areas the birds will see them when it is light
outside.

Marshall

Jim Holmes wrote:

 How does the parasite benefit from rats
 going to areas in which cats have urinated?

 Normal rats avoid cat urine areas like the plague; they know they are more
 likely to be eaten where it is found.  Toxoplasma gondii modifies that
 behavior so that the rat goes to a cat urine area and waits there to be
 eaten.

 The cat eats the rat. The gondii needs to live in the cat for part of its
 life cycle. It must live part of its life in a cat and part in a rat.  How
 about that

 The point is that an organism can modify behavior of the host, to the
 benefit of the organism and the death of the host.

 There are several other examples in the article.

 Really spooky stuff.

 Think about genetically engineered variants of that organism.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jonathan B. Britten [mailto:jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp]
 Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 7:56 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSToxoplasma gondii

 This is not quite clear to me.  How does the parasite benefit from rats
 going to areas in which cats have urinated?

 If the parasite can survive in rats, why would there be a need for
 infected rats to be killed by cats?   This is the only means by which I
 can imagine some benefit to the parasite, that is, a chance to infect
 more cats.  Is the rat not as good a host?  Its not clear.

 Also not clear is what benefit to the parasite human infestation might
 yield.

 The information is very interesting, but some key details are missing I
 think.   I can't quite follow it.  Can anyone clarify?

 On Tuesday, Feb 14, 2006, at 00:36 Asia/Tokyo, Dan Nave wrote:

  In fact, some of the
  infected
  rats actually seek out the cat urine-marked areas again and again. The
  parasite alters the mind (and thus the behavior) of the rat for its
  own
  benefit.

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Re: CSbehaviour modification was Toxoplasma gondii

2006-02-14 Thread Marshall Dudley
Rich Adams wrote:

 - Original Message -

  The point is that an organism can modify behavior of the host, to the
  benefit of the organism and the death of the host.

 http://www.boingboing.net/2006/02/03/wasp_performs_roachb.html

 Now there is some behaviour modification.

 Rich Adams

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Re: CSsuper cure ? / Liquid Zeolite

2006-02-14 Thread sol
Another reason why weight loss should be very gradual, and not 
catastrophic.

sol

Pat wrote:

Nena said, One main function of fat cells is to surround and 
encapsulate the dangerous junk, which protects you.
Maybe I shouldn't be dieting?  hehehehe  Really, by losing weight, are 
we releasing poisons? 




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Re: CSsuper cure ? / Liquid Zeolite

2006-02-14 Thread Nenah Sylver
- Original Message - 
From: Pat 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 11:06 AM
Subject: Re: CSsuper cure ? / Liquid Zeolite


Nena said, One main function of fat cells is to surround and encapsulate the 
dangerous junk, which protects you.
Maybe I shouldn't be dieting?  hehehehe  Really, by losing weight, are we 
releasing poisons?  Think I'll go out back and cut off some oat tipsoops, 
don't have any, is there somewhere you can buy them in tea-making form?  

==
Pat,
The oat tops help restore the nervous system. If you have not been toxified by 
mercury, and your nervous system is intact, then taking the oat top tea would 
not be critical for you.

Knowing that fat encapsulates toxic material is useful to know so that you can 
plan an appropriate protocol. People who are substantially overweight have some 
clues they can look into, either singly or collectively: hypothyroidism, 
mercury toxicity (mercury also inhibits thyroid function), excess systemic 
acidity (from endogenous or exogenous wastes). An overacid system can result 
from poor diet. People are different in how they metabolize foods, so what's 
acidic for one may be alkalinizing for another. (See John Lee's The Nutrition 
Solution: A Guide to Your Metabolic Type.)  

I ordered oat tops from http://www.mountainroseherbs.com/  It's a great company 
with very reasonable prices. Everything they sell is organic or wildcrafted. If 
I understand their description, the milky oats I was told by a practitioner 
to get is the same as their oat tops.

Nenah



Re: CSbehaviour modification was Toxoplasma gondii

2006-02-14 Thread Carol Ann
Which is exactly how the 1918 virus behaved. 

Rich Adams r...@kc.rr.com wrote: 
- Original Message - 

 The point is that an organism can modify behavior of the host, to the
 benefit of the organism and the death of the host. 


http://www.boingboing.net/2006/02/03/wasp_performs_roachb.html

Now there is some behaviour modification.

Rich Adams


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Re: CSsuper cure ? / Liquid Zeolite

2006-02-14 Thread Trem
Nenah,

I'm hearing about zeolite from a dealer of mine that's trying to get me 
interested in taking it as a substitution for chelation.  I had 18 chelation 
sessions last year but didn't get what I wanted.  Not sure whether CS 
interfered with the process.  

What is the recommended dosage, for what length of time, how often and 
finally...how much liquid is in each bottle?  Thanks.

Best regards,

Trem 
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  - Original Message - 
  From: Nenah Sylver 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 6:31 AM
  Subject: Re: CSsuper cure ? / Liquid Zeolite


  - Original Message -
  From: Peter 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 5:50 AM
  Subject: CSsuper cure ?


  http://asia.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalCellularDefense

  http://www.waiora.com/

   zeolite ?

  ==
  Yeah. Zeolite. Have you ever used kitty litter? The main (or only) ingredient 
is zeolite, a volcanic rock that absorbs and traps odors. It does this in two 
ways: One, zeolite has a negative charge, and toxins generally have a positive 
charge. So the zeolite naturally attracts them. Two, the molecules of zeolite 
are shaped like a honeycomb. So once the toxins are attracted to the zeolite, 
they are stuck to it.

  Scientsts have figured out a way to harness the powers of zeolite to chelate 
heavy metals and other poisons from the body by producing a food grade zeolite 
liquid that you add to water. Since zeolite works electrically and mechanically 
rather than chemically, it is completely safe.

  Among other toxins, zeolite binds to heavy metals. It will grab the item with 
the highest affinity for the zeolite cage. Contributing factors for affinity 
include size, charge, molecular weight and structure. If the zeolite has 
grabbed onto something of lower affinity and then spots something with higher 
affinity, it will let go of the lower affinity substance and attract the higher 
affinity substance.

  So let's say you have mercury and aluminum in your system. The zeolite comes 
along and attracts the aluminum. But then as it's traveling through the body, 
it encounters mercury. Since the mercury has a higher affinity, the zeolite 
drops the aluminum and picks up the mercury. The zeolite will continue its work 
eliminating the mercury until all the mercury is excreted from the body (60% 
through the urine, 40% through the feces). 

  People who are highly toxic and overweight may go through a period of not 
feeling great. That's because fat cells have an affinity for these metals. One 
main function of fat cells is to surround and encapsulate the dangerous junk, 
which protects you. Many people who are overweight would be poisoned by the 
metals in their system were it not for the fatty tissue that keeps the metals 
in stasis and prevents them from traveling through the bloodstream and damaging 
the organs and glands. 



  Anyway, let's say you have both mercury and aluminum in your system. The 
zeolite grabs onto the mercury to be excreted. However, some aluminum (or other 
lower-affinity metal) that was held in stasis in the fat cells is now in the 
bloodstream, because the zeolite had attracted it and then dumped it when it 
encountered the mercury. Therefore, if you're really toxic, you might feel 
worse before you feel better. Some people who are less toxic feel better right 
away or after only a few days. It depends on the person.

  The good news is that zeolite raises the pH of the body (makes it more 
alkaline) while it's doing its job. I am personally willing to endure some 
discomfort for awhile to get various toxins out of my system. This is 
especially easy because there are days that I feel terrific and full of energy 
when taking this product.

  Someone had asked me about possible kidney overload. This doesn't seem to be 
an issue, because less than half of the zeolite-bound junk is excreted as urine.


  I recently became a distributor for the MLM company that distributes Cellular 
Defense. When two people in one month told me about this product, I went 
No...Not another MLM! But I really took notice when the third person, my 
naturopath friend Kae, told me about the zeolite and the results of her own 
tests. Kae doesn't like to trust even good scientific studies without verifying 
the data for herself. So she took off the labels of four bottles and sent them 
to four clients with simple instructions on how much to take. She didn't tell 
them what it was supposed to do.

  One of her clients had cancer. The women was scheduled for surgery in a week 
to have her tumor removed. When the doctor cut her open, he asked, Where's the 
cancer? Kae told me it was too bad that the woman wasn't tested first to see 
if she still had cancer -- but there was no reason for her to be tested. Had 
Kae told her that the negatively-charged zeolite grabs onto toxic 
positively-charged human tissue, which includes cancerous tumors, that would 

Re: CSsuper cure ? / Liquid Zeolite

2006-02-14 Thread Peter
hi ..

I have search for facts and real  testimonials ! i have been in one cancer 
forum and nobody had survive ,  when they have taking some zeolite !

Sounds like one of this froud product ? But i gone try this ! i`am so sensitive 
 ,  i feel direct if it`s good !?!?!

peter

sorry for my spelling



  - Original Message -
  From: Peter 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 5:50 AM
  Subject: CSsuper cure ?


  http://asia.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalCellularDefense

  http://www.waiora.com/

   zeolite ?

  ==
  Yeah. Zeolite. Have you ever used kitty litter? The main (or only) ingredient 
is zeolite, a volcanic rock that absorbs and traps odors. It does this in two 
ways: One, zeolite has a negative charge, and toxins generally have a positive 
charge. So the zeolite naturally attracts them. Two, the molecules of zeolite 
are shaped like a honeycomb. So once the toxins are attracted to the zeolite, 
they are stuck to it.

  Scientsts have figured out a way to harness the powers of zeolite to chelate 
heavy metals and other poisons from the body by producing a food grade zeolite 
liquid that you add to water. Since zeolite works electrically and mechanically 
rather than chemically, it is completely safe.

  Among other toxins, zeolite binds to heavy metals. It will grab the item with 
the highest affinity for the zeolite cage. Contributing factors for affinity 
include size, charge, molecular weight and structure. If the zeolite has 
grabbed onto something of lower affinity and then spots something with higher 
affinity, it will let go of the lower affinity substance and attract the higher 
affinity substance.

  So let's say you have mercury and aluminum in your system. The zeolite comes 
along and attracts the aluminum. But then as it's traveling through the body, 
it encounters mercury. Since the mercury has a higher affinity, the zeolite 
drops the aluminum and picks up the mercury. The zeolite will continue its work 
eliminating the mercury until all the mercury is excreted from the body (60% 
through the urine, 40% through the feces). 

  People who are highly toxic and overweight may go through a period of not 
feeling great. That's because fat cells have an affinity for these metals. One 
main function of fat cells is to surround and encapsulate the dangerous junk, 
which protects you. Many people who are overweight would be poisoned by the 
metals in their system were it not for the fatty tissue that keeps the metals 
in stasis and prevents them from traveling through the bloodstream and damaging 
the organs and glands. 



  Anyway, let's say you have both mercury and aluminum in your system. The 
zeolite grabs onto the mercury to be excreted. However, some aluminum (or other 
lower-affinity metal) that was held in stasis in the fat cells is now in the 
bloodstream, because the zeolite had attracted it and then dumped it when it 
encountered the mercury. Therefore, if you're really toxic, you might feel 
worse before you feel better. Some people who are less toxic feel better right 
away or after only a few days. It depends on the person.

  The good news is that zeolite raises the pH of the body (makes it more 
alkaline) while it's doing its job. I am personally willing to endure some 
discomfort for awhile to get various toxins out of my system. This is 
especially easy because there are days that I feel terrific and full of energy 
when taking this product.

  Someone had asked me about possible kidney overload. This doesn't seem to be 
an issue, because less than half of the zeolite-bound junk is excreted as urine.


  I recently became a distributor for the MLM company that distributes Cellular 
Defense. When two people in one month told me about this product, I went 
No...Not another MLM! But I really took notice when the third person, my 
naturopath friend Kae, told me about the zeolite and the results of her own 
tests. Kae doesn't like to trust even good scientific studies without verifying 
the data for herself. So she took off the labels of four bottles and sent them 
to four clients with simple instructions on how much to take. She didn't tell 
them what it was supposed to do.

  One of her clients had cancer. The women was scheduled for surgery in a week 
to have her tumor removed. When the doctor cut her open, he asked, Where's the 
cancer? Kae told me it was too bad that the woman wasn't tested first to see 
if she still had cancer -- but there was no reason for her to be tested. Had 
Kae told her that the negatively-charged zeolite grabs onto toxic 
positively-charged human tissue, which includes cancerous tumors, that would 
have tainted the experiment.

  There are some good products that you can get only through MLMs. So for now, 
at least, I'm willing to go that route. There is the usual company ad copy at 
http://my.waiora.com/home.php?860050  , but anyone who's interested can email 
me *privately* and I'll send 

Re: CSToxoplasma gondii

2006-02-14 Thread Carol Ann
Do we or are the parasites actually attempting to mutate and adapt to a higher 
more complex species?

http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dpd/parasites/toxoplasmosis/default.htm



On Tuesday, Feb 14, 2006, at 13:06 Asia/Tokyo, Alfred Davis wrote:

 Cats benefit by having more rats to eat. Cats increase, rats
 decrease. Rats are destructive disease carriers, cats are not, and 
 make nice pets.� Who benefits? Humans.
 �
 Al Davis
 �
 On 2/13/06, Jonathan B. Britten  wrote:

 This is not quite clear to me.��How does the parasite benefit from rats
 going to areas in which cats have urinated?



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Re: CSsuper cure ? / Liquid Zeolite

2006-02-14 Thread Nenah Sylver
Nena said, One main function of fat cells is to surround and encapsulate 
the dangerous junk, which protects you.




Another reason why weight loss should be very gradual, and not 
catastrophic.

sol



Sol,
This is why sauna therapy is so valuable. Sweating removes a high amount of 
toxins from the body.


Nenah 




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CSToxoplasma gondii

2006-02-14 Thread Kelburn Koontz
That behavior modifying virus reminds me of the movie 28 days later.  A 
virus takes over Great Britain and after 28 days everyone that is infected 
is turned into a blood-lusting zombie.  It doesn't seem so far fetched now.


woo WOO woo

Kel



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Re: CSCS and Raw Milk - Vitamin B12 - Comfrey

2006-02-14 Thread hj

At 03:12 PM 2/10/2006, you wrote:

Among other things, the process creates Vitamin C and
Vitamin B12 - especially the latter is interesting because
there are no other plant sources for it.


Heidrun:

Comfrey is the only land plant known to derive and store
Vitamin B-12 from the soil. It also has a great many
medicinal uses, plus it's a wonderful compost plant and
with 22-33% protein a great feed for ruminants!

Kind regards,

Heidi 



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Re: CSsuper cure ? / Liquid Zeolite

2006-02-14 Thread Pat
Well, I have old fillings in my teeth, but I don't think I have any  symptoms 
of mercury poisoning except poor memory lately.  I  thought they'd decided it 
was more dangerous to have the fillings  drilled out and replaced than to leave 
them in.  Actually, I'd  probably rather die than have to go through having 
several fillings  redone.  I recently read that root canals are dangerous too 
as far  as infection and bone loss beneath them.  So what is one to  
do.have the tooth removed if it's too damaged? 
   How would you know if your body has excess acidity?

 Pat
  

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CSThe dangers of dieting/fasting

2006-02-14 Thread Terry Chamberlin
Pat said,
Nena said, One main function of fat cells is to
surround and encapsulate the dangerous junk, which
protects you.
Maybe I shouldn't be dieting?  hehehehe  Really, by
losing weight, are we releasing poisons?

Dr. Carey Reams was strongly against dieting or
fasting for significantly overweight people, and
against it for anyone who had been or was a smoker.
Another group to approach dieting/fasting very
cautiously were folks who had been or still were
regularly taking prescription (or illegal) drugs. He
said that folks had died of drug/toxin overdose when
the dieting/fasting released stored-up toxins/drugs
(stored in the body's fat deposits) too quickly into
the bloodstream.

Terry Chamberlin


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RE: CSToxoplasma gondii

2006-02-14 Thread Jim Holmes
I like  the movie Flesh Gordon .  In one scene a ray from the planet
Porn causes everyone to rip off their clothes and begin having at it with
whomever is nearby.  

-Original Message-
From: Kelburn Koontz [mailto:kelbur...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 11:40 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSToxoplasma gondii 

That behavior modifying virus reminds me of the movie 28 days later.  A 
virus takes over Great Britain and after 28 days everyone that is infected 
is turned into a blood-lusting zombie.  It doesn't seem so far fetched now.

woo WOO woo

Kel



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RE: CSToxoplasma gondii

2006-02-14 Thread Jim Holmes
Perhaps one reason that we seek and are receptive to this sort of
information is that we are taking silver and it is killing the organisms. 

 

-Original Message-
From: Susan [mailto:geoqu...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 7:51 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSToxoplasma gondii

 

Hence, the proliferation of parasitic infections!!!? Let's take back our
power!

 

Susan

V vzo...@yahoo.com wrote:

Hi Jim,

there is probably some organism that makes us pay taxes and tolerate a
parasitic government.




Take care,
V


 How does the parasite benefit from rats 
 going to areas in which cats have urinated?

 Normal rats avoid cat urine areas like the plague; they know they are more
 likely to be eaten where it is found. Toxoplasma gondii modifies that
 behavior so that the rat goes to a cat urine area and waits there to be
 eaten. 

 The cat eats the rat. The gondii needs to live in the cat for part of its
 life cycle. It must live part of its life in a cat and part in a rat. How
 about that 

 The point is that an organism can modify behavior of the host, to the
 benefit of the organism and the death of the host. 

 There are several other examples in the article. 

 Really spooky stuff. 

 Think about genetically engineered variants of that organism. 

 -Original Message-
 From: Jonathan B. Britten [mailto:jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp] 
 Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 7:56 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSToxoplasma gondii

 This is not quite clear to me. How does the parasite benefit from rats 
 going to areas in which cats have urinated?

 If the parasite can survive in rats, why would there be a need for 
 infected rats to be killed by cats? This is the only means by which I 
 can imagine some benefit to the parasite, that is, a chance to infect 
 more cats. Is the rat not as good a host? Its not clear.

 Also not clear is what benefit to the parasite human infestation might 
 yield.

 The information is very interesting, but some key details are missing I 
 think. I can't quite follow it. Can anyone clarify?



 On Tuesday, Feb 14, 2006, at 00:36 Asia/Tokyo, Dan Nave wrote:

 In fact, some of the
 infected
 rats actually seek out the cat urine-marked areas again and again. The
 parasite alters the mind (and thus the behavior) of the rat for its
 own
 benefit.


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RE: CSToxoplasma gondii

2006-02-14 Thread Jim Holmes
The parasite will DIE if it cannot complete the part of its life cycle in a
cat.  

Man does not benefit from all of this; Man can be with the organism.  

-Original Message-
From: Jonathan B. Britten [mailto:jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp] 
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 10:49 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSToxoplasma gondii

This does not explain how the parasite benefits, which is my question.

JBB


On Tuesday, Feb 14, 2006, at 13:06 Asia/Tokyo, Alfred Davis wrote:

 Cats benefit by having more rats to eat. Cats increase, rats
 decrease. Rats are destructive disease carriers, cats are not, and 
 make nice pets.  Who benefits? Humans.
  
 Al Davis
  
 On 2/13/06, Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp wrote:

 This is not quite clear to me.  How does the parasite benefit from rats
 going to areas in which cats have urinated?



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Re: CSsuper cure ? / Liquid Zeolite

2006-02-14 Thread Nenah Sylver
- Original Message - 
From: Trem 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 12:19 PM
Subject: Re: CSsuper cure ? / Liquid Zeolite


Nenah,

I'm hearing about zeolite from a dealer of mine that's trying to get me 
interested in taking it as a substitution for chelation.  I had 18 chelation 
sessions last year but didn't get what I wanted.  Not sure whether CS 
interfered with the process.  

What is the recommended dosage, for what length of time, how often and 
finally...how much liquid is in each bottle?  Thanks.

Best regards,

Trem 
www.silvergen.com


Hi Trem.
Each bottle is a scant 15 ml. My wholesale cost is abou $47.00 (this includes 
their shipping to me). Bottle lasts between 2 and 4 weeks, depending on how 
much you use.

After learning how savagely mercury ruins the nervous system, I'd suggest that 
anyone who is mercury toxic to do a month or two of oat top tea to restore the 
nervous system BEFORE doing chelation -- it might save you money on the 
chelation product in the long run.

Best,
Nenah

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Re: CSThe dangers of dieting/fasting

2006-02-14 Thread Marmar845
In a message dated 2/14/06 3:06:52 PM Central Standard Time, tcj...@yahoo.ca 
writes:


 Dr. Carey Reams was strongly against dieting or
 fasting for significantly overweight people, and
 against it for anyone who had been or was a smoker.

OK -- this is interesting to me.  I can see why this would be a concern for 
someone who IS a smoker, but why for someone who HAD BEEN a smoker?  For 
instance, I quit smoking twenty-five years ago -- why would dieting or fasting 
be a 
concern? MA


Re: CSThe dangers of dieting/fasting

2006-02-14 Thread Nenah Sylver


- Original Message - 
From: Terry Chamberlin tcj...@yahoo.ca

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 3:39 PM
Subject: CSThe dangers of dieting/fasting



Dr. Carey Reams was strongly against dieting or
fasting for significantly overweight people, and
against it for anyone who had been or was a smoker.
Another group to approach dieting/fasting very
cautiously were folks who had been or still were
regularly taking prescription (or illegal) drugs. He
said that folks had died of drug/toxin overdose when
the dieting/fasting released stored-up toxins/drugs
(stored in the body's fat deposits) too quickly into
the bloodstream.

Terry Chamberlin


Terry,
This is why sauna therapy can be so helpful. You can bypass all of the 
eliminative organs by having the toxins leave through the skin.


Nenah 




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RE: CSsuper cure ? / Liquid Zeolite

2006-02-14 Thread Ed Kasper
Nenah, would this be the same as sproated oats?

Ed
  -Original Message-
  From: Nenah Sylver [mailto:nenahsyl...@verizon.net]
  Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 1:04 PM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: CSsuper cure ? / Liquid Zeolite


  - Original Message -
  From: Trem
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 12:19 PM
  Subject: Re: CSsuper cure ? / Liquid Zeolite


  Nenah,

  I'm hearing about zeolite from a dealer of mine that's trying to get me
interested in taking it as a substitution for chelation.  I had 18 chelation
sessions last year but didn't get what I wanted.  Not sure whether CS
interfered with the process.

  What is the recommended dosage, for what length of time, how often and
finally...how much liquid is in each bottle?  Thanks.

  Best regards,

  Trem
  www.silvergen.com

  
  Hi Trem.
  Each bottle is a scant 15 ml. My wholesale cost is abou $47.00 (this
includes their shipping to me). Bottle lasts between 2 and 4 weeks,
depending on how much you use.

  After learning how savagely mercury ruins the nervous system, I'd suggest
that anyone who is mercury toxic to do a month or two of oat top tea to
restore the nervous system BEFORE doing chelation -- it might save you money
on the chelation product in the long run.

  Best,
  Nenah

  Nenah Sylver, PhD
  http://www.nenahsylver.com
  * The Handbook of Rife Frequency Healing
  * The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy
  * products and services for wellness


Re: CSsuper cure ? / Liquid Zeolite

2006-02-14 Thread Nenah Sylver
- Original Message - 
From: Ed Kasper 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 7:35 PM
Subject: RE: CSsuper cure ? / Liquid Zeolite


Nenah, would this be the same as sproated oats?

Ed

No, not at all. An oat top looks like an oval, about one-half inch in length. 
This is the greenish, dry top. I don't know which stage of the plant it's from 
-- but it's definitely not sprouted.

Even oat straw (the stem or larger, bottom part of the same plant) has similar 
properties, but there's more of a concentration in the tops of whatever-it-is 
that helps to restore the nervous system.

Nenah

Re: CSToxoplasma gondii

2006-02-14 Thread Stuff

I knew there was a reason for such alien behavior.

Have we already been invaded?

stuff

At 11:46 PM 2/13/2006, you wrote:

Hi Jim,

there is probably some organism that makes us pay taxes and tolerate 
a parasitic government.





Take care,
 V



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CSFasting-dieting dangers

2006-02-14 Thread Terry Chamberlin
OK -- this is interesting to me.  I can see why this
would be a concern for someone who IS a smoker, but
why for someone who HAD BEEN a smoker?  For instance,
I quit smoking twenty-five years ago -- why would
dieting or fasting be a concern? MA

The reason is because the stored toxins don't go away
automatically. Unless a specific program is undertaken
to cleanse the body of the stored toxins, they will
stay there for the rest of the person's life.

Dr. Reams also explained that after awhile, the body
will move those toxins deeper into the body
specifically to prevent them from being released and
causing havoc in the body. It's like the body doesn't
trust that fat deposits are a safe place and will
transfer toxins to the skin or lungs or bones. Then
you end up with toxic deposits in the skeletal system
or elsewhere. To make it scarier, the body will, over
time, move these toxins around from place to place
throughout the body, and people may discover
unexplained skin cancer, liver cancer, lung cancer or
other diseases, caused by the body depositing toxins
here and there.

Once you deposit toxins into your body, you must take
specific steps to help it get rid of them. Healthy
living helps, but is not enough by itself.

Terry Chamberlin






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CSFIR Sauna and EIS

2006-02-14 Thread Jonathan B. Britten
I am curious as to whether anyone has any information about the 
possible benefits or risks of using FIR sauna therapy in conjunction 
with EIS consumption.   I ask because I am aware of use of colloidal 
gold in such therapies.   If one ingested, say, a quart of 10 ppm EIS, 
then took FIR sauna for an hour, what effect might the radiation -- 
which supposedly penetrates deep into the body -- have on silver 
nanoparticles that might be inside cells of the body?


I realize I am fishing here, and that this is a very, very complex 
question, but I would be grateful for any suggestions that would point 
me in the right direction for further research.  I am aware of course 
of N. Silver's books but have not yet read them.


JBB


On Wednesday, Feb 15, 2006, at 08:10 Asia/Tokyo, Nenah Sylver wrote:


Terry,
This is why sauna therapy can be so helpful. You can bypass all of the 
eliminative organs by having the toxins leave through the skin.


Nenah



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Re: CSFasting-dieting dangers

2006-02-14 Thread Jonathan B. Britten
Some months ago I mentioned here the case of scientists who encased 
themselves in an artificial biodome.  Their weight and fat loss (due to 
difficulties in raising their own organic food)  corresponded with 
large increases of toxins in the blood, including a pesticide that had 
been banned twenty years earlier.


This supports Terry's claim below.   Very disturbing but valuable 
information if in fact we can chelate these toxins.





On Wednesday, Feb 15, 2006, at 11:39 Asia/Tokyo, Terry Chamberlin wrote:


Once you deposit toxins into your body, you must take
specific steps to help it get rid of them. Healthy
living helps, but is not enough by itself.



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Re: CSsuper cure ? / Liquid Zeolite

2006-02-14 Thread Deborah Gerard
the older the fillings are the worse because they start to crumble more and 
more and I had mine taken out by a dentist who damed off my throat...do you go 
thru that much pain when they work on your teeth? I wish you would look into 
how bad those fillings are you might change your mind I am in my fifties and I 
didn't starte having any chronic illnesses until I was in my fourties but it 
hit the fan big time...have you heard of the alkaline testing tape?..

Pat pattycake29...@yahoo.com wrote:  Well, I have old fillings in my teeth, 
but I don't think I have any symptoms of mercury poisoning except poor memory 
lately.  I thought they'd decided it was more dangerous to have the fillings 
drilled out and replaced than to leave them in.  Actually, I'd probably rather 
die than have to go through having several fillings redone.  I recently read 
that root canals are dangerous too as far as infection and bone loss beneath 
them.  So what is one to do.have the tooth removed if it's too damaged? 
 How would you know if your body has excess acidity?
  
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Re: CSCS and Raw Milk - Vitamin B12 - Comfrey

2006-02-14 Thread Heidrun Beer
On Tue, 14 Feb 2006 14:46:03 -0500, hj wrote in
7.0.0.16.2.20060214143910.041b7...@earthlink.net:

At 03:12 PM 2/10/2006, you wrote:
Among other things, the process creates Vitamin C and
Vitamin B12 - especially the latter is interesting because
there are no other plant sources for it.

Heidrun:

Comfrey is the only land plant known to derive and store
Vitamin B-12 from the soil. It also has a great many
medicinal uses, plus it's a wonderful compost plant and
with 22-33% protein a great feed for ruminants!

Kind regards,

Heidi 
^


Very interesting information, I didn't know that!


Thanks a lot,



Heidrun Beer

Workgroup for Fundamental Spiritual Research and Mental Training
http://www.sgmt.at


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