CSCentre for Complementary Medicine.
The US National Centre for Complementary And Alternative Medicine
makes the following statement on their website...
http://nccam.nih.gov/health/alerts/silver/
Other side effects from using colloidal silver products may include
neurologic problems (such as seizures), kidney damage, stomach
distress, headaches, fatigue, and skin irritation
The implication is that human experience or trials have provided some
credible info, but they provide no references for this statement. I
have also seen the statement repeated and misquoted on other sites
('may' becomes 'can') so its become quite a potent weapon around the
world for the anti-cs brigade. I wonder if any US silverlist members
have ever queried this statement with the NCCAM and asked them to
provide some references. My suspicion is you'll be referred to some
pretty old and irrelevant tests on animals. (If they have no
references at all, they should of course remove the statement from
their site).
Is anyone prepared to put a query to the NCCAM?
http://nccam.nih.gov/tools/contact.htm
I doubt there's any point in me doing it. I'm not a US resident.
David
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Re: CSmacroglobulinemia-Waldenstrom's
CS will kill em all. The good guys live in a semi solid where CS doesn't have the mobility to search and destroy, but if something comes along and flushed em out of the tunnel...well, tunnel rats in Nam were fond of grenades, those occupants filled the landscape as well and would move right back in in no time a tall. Ode At 06:44 PM 8/22/2006 -0500, you wrote: On 21 Aug 2006 at 5:12, Ode Coyote wrote: At 12:12 AM 8/20/2006 +, you wrote: I thought that cs did not kill any of the good bacteria? thanks debbie # It doesn't normally kill the good bacteria, not because that bacteria is special, but because of where it lives. ..which is in gated communities with rent-a-cops on patrol protecting good yuppie bacteria from gangland attacks from silver sporting nano thugs...but should they leave to go shopping at a thrift store downtown...same as any other bacteria. [only better dressed and more indignant] Ode ROTFLMAO Another nugget as only Ode can toss them out into the cybervoid. g A question, though... What about aerobic vs. anaerobic? I thought cs acted only on anaerobic organisms. (But then, I've been confused before...) Just curious... Leigh -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.5/425 - Release Date: 8/22/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.5/425 - Release Date: 8/22/2006
CSComcast blocking mail from Eskimo
Hi all. This is for Dan Nave (who's listening in via his work address) and anybody else who uses a Comcast account to receive the list. Apparently, Comcast has taken it into it's collective head to block e- mail from eskimo.com for alleged spam activity. They did this without warning or making any attempt to contact the owner of Eskimo North at the standard abuse address or anything else. Besides which, eskimo is extremely diligent about policing spam activity to begin with. Since this message won't reach these people, and I won't be able to reach them from my personal address, either, if you have a friend with a comcast address, could you please foreward this to them? Comcast users need to start complaining to their service provider. Thank you, all. Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSColloidal Silver
To Whom It May Concern: I recently read a statement that cited problems/side effects of colloidal silver put out by your agency. It reads as follows: Other side effects from using colloidal silver products may include neurologic problems (such as seizures), kidney damage, stomach distress, headaches, fatigue, and skin irritation. Colloidal silver may interfere with the body's absorption of the following drugs: penacillamine, quinolones, tetracyclines, and thyroxine. I noticed, however, there is no empirical evidence to your claims. Animal testing is not good enough or the same as human testing. This seems to be very misleading and untrue. Please send me the proof that you have that colloidal silver causes side effects. I am open-minded to empirical proof. However, if it is just an assumption or some kind of educated guess you might want to reconsider your statements. Thank you for your time and consideration. Scott Y. - Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less.
CSColloidal Silver Protein
A new Term, just like the Federal Reserve and The Fairness Doctrine This sounds like Dr. Andrew Weil wrote it. I read some of this. All sounds bogus for sure. = The US National Centre for Complementary And Alternative Medicine makes the following statement on their website... http://nccam.nih.gov/health/alerts/silver/ Anyone care to try to define Colloidal Silver Protein ? Silver and Water makes Protein ?A very valuable process to save the world from Starvation. Maybe Witch Doctor Weil can do it. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSmacroglobulinemia-Waldenstrom's
rous...@cox.net wrote: On 21 Aug 2006 at 5:12, Ode Coyote wrote: At 12:12 AM 8/20/2006 +, you wrote: I thought that cs did not kill any of the good bacteria? thanks debbie # It doesn't normally kill the good bacteria, not because that bacteria is special, but because of where it lives. ..which is in gated communities with rent-a-cops on patrol protecting good yuppie bacteria from gangland attacks from silver sporting nano thugs...but should they leave to go shopping at a thrift store downtown...same as any other bacteria. [only better dressed and more indignant] Ode ROTFLMAO Another nugget as only Ode can toss them out into the cybervoid. g A question, though... What about aerobic vs. anaerobic? I thought cs acted only on anaerobic organisms. (But then, I've been confused before...) As stated here before, CS kills both aerobic and anaerobic organisms equally. In fact most anaerobic organisms are also aerobic, and they simply switch modes depending on the environment. Whether it is effective depends on the environment, not the organism. Marshall Just curious... Leigh -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSColloidal Silver
If this were true, then why would the EPA allow silver concentrations in drinking water that are high enough if you drink water for your liquid intake to exceed the silver one would normally get by taking CS and claim it is safe? it can't be both ways. Marshall Scott wrote: To Whom It May Concern: I recently read a statement that cited problems/side effects of colloidal silver put out by your agency. It reads as follows: Other side effects from using colloidal silver products may include neurologic problems (such as seizures), kidney damage, stomach distress, headaches, fatigue, and skin irritation. Colloidal silver may interfere with the body's absorption of the following drugs: penacillamine, quinolones, tetracyclines, and thyroxine. I noticed, however, there is no empirical evidence to your claims. Animal testing is not good enough or the same as human testing. This seems to be very misleading and untrue. Please send me the proof that you have that colloidal silver causes side effects. I am open-minded to empirical proof. However, if it is just an assumption or some kind of educated guess you might want to reconsider your statements. Thank you for your time and consideration. Scott Y. --- Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe CS: Omega 3 source
Go to www.ourhealthcoop.com Free to join,excellent prices and link for International sales.In Canada go to www.oradix.com , Canadian branch. Harold -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSComcast blocking mail from Eskimo
Mike, I use Comcast. No problem receiving your emails. M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com wrote: Hi all. This is for Dan Nave (who's listening in via his work address) and anybody else who uses a Comcast account to receive the list. Apparently, Comcast has taken it into it's collective head to block e- mail from eskimo.com for alleged spam activity. They did this without warning or making any attempt to contact the owner of Eskimo North at the standard abuse address or anything else. Besides which, eskimo is extremely diligent about policing spam activity to begin with. Since this message won't reach these people, and I won't be able to reach them from my personal address, either, if you have a friend with a comcast address, could you please foreward this to them? Comcast users need to start complaining to their service provider. Thank you, all. Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour Carol Ann People should not be afraid of their Governments. Governments should be afraid of their people. V - Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less.
Re: CSComcast blocking mail from Eskimo
Mike, I use Comcast. No problem receiving your emails. Hi Carol Ann, It works because you're subscribed via a yahoo.com address. Although you must be logging in via a Comcast net connection, the list server is not trying to send mail to an @comcast.net address. Thanks, Mike D. M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com wrote: Hi all. This is for Dan Nave (who's listening in via his work address) and anybody else who uses a Comcast account to receive the list. Apparently, Comcast has taken it into it's collective head to block e- mail from eskimo.com for alleged spam activity. They did this without warning or making any attempt to contact the owner of Eskimo North at the standard abuse address or anything else. Besides which, eskimo is extremely diligent about policing spam activity to begin with. Since this message won't reach these people, and I won't be able to reach them from my personal address, either, if you have a friend with a comcast address, could you please foreward this to them? Comcast users need to start complaining to their service provider. Thank you, all. Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour Carol Ann People should not be afraid of their Governments. Governments should be afraid of their people. V - Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ]
Re: CSComcast blocking mail from Eskimo
Mike, so do I, but they are re-directed from another account. I will contact them (Comcast) anyway. Craig -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSComcast blocking mail from Eskimo
Hi Mike, stars...@comcast.net THAT explains why I'm getting no cs posts! I got this one, oddly enough. I've got a user forum open this minute. Before posting my loud complaint (I went through this last Spring with many lists---thought they'd finally solved it) I found this message back to a user: You can't whitelist a server. If the sources are receiving bounce messages that indicate their mail server is being blacklisted by Comcast, then those bounce messages will contain the IP address that needs to be sent to comcast--along with the e-mail address needed to request removal from the blacklist. Unfortunately, it may be a temporary solution at best, if the IPs involved continue to be seen as spam sources by Comcast. I do know that many of the newsletters had this problem, and apparently they had to send their IP addresses, and whatever the h*ll else Comcast wanted. It took 2 months for the newsletters to start showing up again. NOW I will go and give them a piece of my mind. Thanks for the head's up, Mike Sharon - Original Message - From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 12:24 PM Subject: CSComcast blocking mail from Eskimo Hi all. This is for Dan Nave (who's listening in via his work address) and anybody else who uses a Comcast account to receive the list. Apparently, Comcast has taken it into it's collective head to block e- mail from eskimo.com for alleged spam activity. They did this without warning or making any attempt to contact the owner of Eskimo North at the standard abuse address or anything else. Besides which, eskimo is extremely diligent about policing spam activity to begin with. Since this message won't reach these people, and I won't be able to reach them from my personal address, either, if you have a friend with a comcast address, could you please foreward this to them? Comcast users need to start complaining to their service provider. Thank you, all. Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSCS Crohn's Disease?
Hi, Dan, This is exactly what my chiropractor recommended and I am using the packs every night. I put them on when I retire for the night. I always wake up for the bathroom in an hour or two, so take them off the. Indeed, they are messy. I don't notice if they are helping, but one has to keep on for quite awhile with something like this in case it helps in the long-run. Ruth From Ruth Strackbein From: Dan Nave dan.n...@nilfisk-advance.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSCS Crohn's Disease? Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 12:41:28 -0500 For abdominal adhesions try using heated castor oil packs as recommended by Edgar Cayce and now commonly used in alternative medicine circles. This should help the adhesions and constipation and perhaps even the underlying problem. This is a very cheap and effective method (but it is very messy). Dan -Original Message- From: ruth strackbein [mailto:ruthstrackb...@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 3:32 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS Crohn's Disease? Hi, I don't think I have Crohn's Disease, but have been diagnosed with IBS and right now I seem to be haveing a problem with inflammation in there as well. My M.D. is suggesting a similar surgery to me . I have adhesions from 3 surgeries in the right side of my abdomen. I feel sure much of the present trouble is due to these. The right side of my ab feels just fine. All the tightness and tenderness is in the right side. My feeling about surgury is that it will just make more adhesions, and the surguries will have to be done possibly over and over again at ever shortening intervals. I am attempting to treat my problem with natural alternative therapies. Am not presently having much success. My bowel problems are since childhood and I am 78 years old. I have gotten rid of all junk food , followed a celiac diet for about 3 years now, a strict one, so the battle isn't to be won overnight. I am in process of trying to choose a cs making system. I hope this young man will be allowed to try alternative therapies. Ruth From Ruth Strackbein -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOmega-3
Essential omega-3 fatty acids should not include linolenic acid, the one in flax oil etc. It's been established that you don't convert it well, other than that it's useless, and that you survive without it if DHA and EPA, the truly essential ones, are present in the diet. Some of that research is on my website on the Budwig Diet revision page. Even if you use flax or another source of LNA you probably need EPA and DHA-rich cod-liver oil or wild fish oil; so much for the natural vegetarian approach. Duncan http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow/Budwig-diet-revision.html On 22 Aug 2006 at 16:37, oldgl...@bigcountry.net wrote: Hi, Google makes it so easy. Here are two sites to check out for omega-3. Just click and you are there. Jean *** http://www.foodnavigator.com/news/ng.asp?n=55325-fruit-derived-omega http://www.google.com/search?hl=enie=ISO-8859-1q=Omega-3+sources -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSComcast blocking mail from Eskimo
I was reading where this will actually be the way for the big boys to force the rest of us to climb on their wagon. You will have to have a big-boy address to be able to get mail or send mail to certain addresses. Its very frustrating..Robb - Original Message - From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 4:33 PM Subject: Re: CSComcast blocking mail from Eskimo Mike, I use Comcast. No problem receiving your emails. Hi Carol Ann, It works because you're subscribed via a yahoo.com address. Although you must be logging in via a Comcast net connection, the list server is not trying to send mail to an @comcast.net address. Thanks, Mike D. M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com wrote: Hi all. This is for Dan Nave (who's listening in via his work address) and anybody else who uses a Comcast account to receive the list. Apparently, Comcast has taken it into it's collective head to block e- mail from eskimo.com for alleged spam activity. They did this without warning or making any attempt to contact the owner of Eskimo North at the standard abuse address or anything else. Besides which, eskimo is extremely diligent about policing spam activity to begin with. Since this message won't reach these people, and I won't be able to reach them from my personal address, either, if you have a friend with a comcast address, could you please foreward this to them? Comcast users need to start complaining to their service provider. Thank you, all. Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour Carol Ann People should not be afraid of their Governments. Governments should be afraid of their people. V - Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ]
CSGlass vessel Metal spout Repost
I am cutting and pasting this previous post. I just returned from a short trip and noticed there were no takers/responses. Any thoughts on the following: My loving kids bought me a fancy glass vessel with a nice metal spout for my CS drinking. My clear CS is making small grey/grey-black aggregates in the solution and around the metal spout that is inside the container. The inside metal itself is now coated with black (silver oxide?). I am concerned and assuming that this is not a good thing since I am trying for the small particle version CS. And since I believe I have a relatively weak but decent quality (do not have meters) I believe I am loosing my desired ions to the clumps. Anything to do about this metal reaction? I like my fancy vessel, but more-so my CS and health benefits. Also, what are the possibilities of leaching undesirable metals and/or methyl,ethyl,death compounds from the glass since it is mostly distilled water? I have been storing and dispensing in sun tea jars and that did work fine as wine. But this fancy glass object spiked my interest in leachable undesirable elements. Maz - Get your email and more, right on the new Yahoo.com
CSRe: FW: CSNew 73 y.o. member with chronic Ehrlichiosis requests help!!
Dear Carlos, It sounds like you have good distilled water. Since you are stirring it by hand, I assume you are making a low voltage DC Colloidal Silver (which, ironically, is probably mostly ionic ;-)). However, 12 to 13 minutes seems like a very short time for brewing so you must have either used a starter or are using higher voltage... Can you give more details? What voltage? Do you have any current limiting going on? Do you have access to a voltmeter or a current meter which measures milliamps? Do you have a laser pointer of any sort? Are you familiar with electrical theory at all? Even if you don't have any special equipment you can still make the CS but you won't be quite as sure about the potency, etc. One way to achieve stirring for a quantity of water up to about pint or a liter (well, I used it for a one-half gallon container, but it was quite narrow) is to use thermal stirring. The idea is to heat the container in the middle part of the bottom which will cause the water to rise by convection, and since the outside edges of the container are cooler they will cause the water to move down. This way you will get a gentle circulation of the fluid and not have to stir it. One can get a tin can which has one end cut out, turn it over and cut a smaller hole in the top to release the heat to the glass and then put a small wattage light bulb in the can. Set the CS container on top of the can with the small hole facing the container. You should insulate the top of the can a bit, but don't insulate over the hole. If the light bulb is too hot, you may need some ventilation holes in the bottom of the tin can. The term Colloidal Silver is a catch-all term. The stuff we make by this method is mostly ionic with a small colloidal component. The must be ionic/must be colloidal debate is mostly a marketing ploy. It has been found that in order for the silver to affect the organisms it must be converted to ions. There may be some virtue to the argument that the actual colloids of silver, if they are small enough, are absorbed in a slightly different way and may maintain their integrity for a longer time in the body, but I believe that they must be converted to ionic silver before they can actually do anything. The CS we make has been proven to be very effective. Dan -Original Message- From: Carlos Pérez [mailto:explorer...@hotmail.com] Subject: RE: CSNew 73 y.o. member with chronic Ehrlichiosis requests help!! Hello, Dan, Thank you very much for your answer. Strictly speaking Lyme´s diseases is produced by a Spiroquette and Ehrlichiosis by Ehrlichiae, a Ricketsia. The main vector in both cases is ticks. The sympthoms are sometimes similar. Since Ehrlichiosis is so common in the world I hope I find persons that have experience treating it with CS. At this stage, I am trying to do my best with the simple system I have. I am getting a good quality bi-distilled through steaming, free of ions, that has no reaction by itself. Terry Chamberlain suggested if necessary use a drop of pure honey, but I like better her other suggestion using some CS fom the previous batch. I don´t want to use salt again. I am confused about the opinions concernong Ionic Silver and Colloidal Silver. There are al kinds of reasons for considering one or the other the convenient one. Meanwhile, I am trying to find out what my equipment is producing and optimize it, until I can buy a good trustable system. Next batch sould come out better. The product I am gettig looks like a glass of water with one dop of milk, very clear, almost totally transparent with a slight mist. I am stirring manually with a plastic spoon wile it is produced in order to keep the conglomerates s small as possible. The wire electrodes are placed on the opposite sides of a 10 ounce glass and they leave enough space to do it, but it still is a pain in the neck for 12-13 min.!! Eventally I have to get a system that produces at least one gallon at a time with much less hassle. I will keep you informed about my experiments. Regards, Carlos -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.5/426 - Release Date: 8/23/2006 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSComcast blocking mail from Eskimo
Mike, I am also receiving your personal emails on the comcast.net address without problems. I wrote to the comcast people and they sent me a place to ask for a blacklist removal request. So, hopefully, they will correct the problem. Dan M. G. Devour wrote: Mike, I use Comcast. No problem receiving your emails. Hi Carol Ann, It works because you're subscribed via a yahoo.com address. Although you must be logging in via a Comcast net connection, the list server is not trying to send mail to an @comcast.net address. Thanks, Mike D. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.5/426 - Release Date: 8/23/2006 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCeliac, Re: CSwheat grass to sol
I think most doctors probably require a positive blood test before proceeding to the biopsy. But as you say, I doubt the blood test really catches everyone. So a lot of people who should have a biopsy probably don't get one. However, a biopsy has risks. The person I knew who died, had been mis-diagnosed for at least 10-15 years before finding out she was celiac. Once she was diagnosed she was very strict on the celiac diet, but it was not enough. BTW, a real celiac diet is godawful, involves FAR more than just avoiding gluten in grains and grain products and baked goods. sol zeb caffe wrote: thanks for the information sol. I to have heard that the test for celiac isnt always accurate and yet not many doctors do the biopsys. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMorgellons. Has anybody heard of it.Will CS help ?
Ummm...how did this man come to this conclusion? Are there pictures? Or better yet, video or lab tests to back up what he is saying? He says this parasite moves. Well he must have video taped this. -Ken ccdirectt ccdire...@yahoo.com wrote: This is pretty long.They talk about Morgellons comming from cotton source. http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/forum/thread7527.html __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour - Do you Yahoo!? Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail.
CSRe: flaxseed oil (NOT!)
Flax seed oil contains LNA so it is widely thought of as a good omega-3 source; however, LNA has been shown to convert at only tiny amounts to the effective omega-3 oils DHA and EPA, and the LNA itself has no other use in the body. When we have no LNA at all in the diet but DHA and EPA are present, even babies survive and grow; how essential is it really? (reference is in my Budwig Diet revision) Obviously, the marketing distraction from seed oil manufacturers to get another one of their useless paint oils named as an essential food, has worked ;) Besides being 53% LNA, flax oil is almost 13% omega-6 LA, an oil which is already abundant in our diet. It bears watching for excess, because in more than essential amounts it initiates the inflammation cycle, leading to excessive arachidonic acid production. Attempts to reduce inflammation caused by the excess LA by covering it with more EPA and DHA oil to bring the unfavourable omega 3:6 ratio back into line are not very effective without reducing the excess LA. This is covered in Chilton'ss book Inflammation Nation and others. Damage is much higher when your antioxidant pool is depleted, so if you use this oil for food, do take supplemental antioxidants just to offset the damage potential. Antioxidants should include undenatured whey and selenium for the crucial glutathione that recycles your other antioxidants. Same thing if you eat other high oxidizing food oils, which include corn, canola, soy, safflower, walnut, sesame, walnut, sunflower, rice, hemp and a bunch of others. Fresh, extra virgin oil reduces damage potential. There's an oils analysis chart on my coconut oil page that calculates the lipid peroxidation of any oil that you know the fatty acid components of. Coconut oil is only 10% as oxidizing as -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CScolodial silver (Dr. Weil) and morgenellas disease
I am not sure what was said here. Is Dr. Weil against the use of collodial silver? I thought he was alternative. Another question I have is-since the archives are not working, I was wondering if anyone could answer a question for me. A while ago, there was discussion about the fiber disease called morgenella. I just recently saw a program on this. The show did not say how people contacted this disease. If I remember correctly, it had something to do with cotten. I am wondering if it was geneticlly altered cotten. Was this the reason b ecause it was altered or am I totally off base here. (sorry the brain fog is bad today but would appreciate any answers) thanks guys - Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Yahoo! Small Business.
RE: CSMorgellons. Has anybody heard of it.Will CS help ?
see http://www.happyherbalist.com/Morgellons.htm there are side by side pictures of the chemtrails and morgellions. Long list of Links to TV news cast showing the disease at the botoom. Ed -Original Message- From: Ken Nancy Bagwell [mailto:kenancy2...@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 6:12 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSMorgellons. Has anybody heard of it.Will CS help ? Ummm...how did this man come to this conclusion? Are there pictures? Or better yet, video or lab tests to back up what he is saying? He says this parasite moves. Well he must have video taped this. -Ken ccdirectt ccdire...@yahoo.com wrote: This is pretty long.They talk about Morgellons comming from cotton source. http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/forum/thread7527.html __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour -- Do you Yahoo!? Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail.
Re: CSComcast blocking mail from Eskimo
Mike I fired off a letter to comcast and have gotten the emails about four of them so far talking about that subject I hope this gets fixed ASAPdebbie -- Original message -- From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com Mike, I use Comcast. No problem receiving your emails. Hi Carol Ann, It works because you're subscribed via a yahoo.com address. Although you must be logging in via a Comcast net connection, the list server is not trying to send mail to an @comcast.net address. Thanks, Mike D. M. G. Devour wrote: Hi all. This is for Dan Nave (who's listening in via his work address) and anybody else who uses a Comcast account to receive the list. Apparently, Comcast has taken it into it's collective head to block e- mail from eskimo.com for alleged spam activity. They did this without warning or making any attempt to contact the owner of Eskimo North at the standard abuse address or anything else. Besides which, eskimo is extremely diligent about policing spam activity to begin with. Since this message won't reach these people, and I won't be able to reach them from my personal address, either, if you have a friend with a comcast address, could you please foreward this to them? Comcast users need to start complaining to their service provider. Thank you, all. Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour Carol Ann People should not be afraid of their Governments. Governments should be afraid of their people. V - Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com ] [Speaking only for myself... ]
CSdaddy bob and salt c
Did your daughter also use CS with her other lyme fighting remedies? If so, did she use it apart from the salt C regime? Getting vitamin C from the vitamin C foundation is a good idea. I only use salt from a specific source now. - Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less.
