Re: CS>Intestinal flora damaged by CS?
Dear Carlos, You write: > My normal diet consists basically of an abundant supply of raw fruts and > vegetables of all kinds. I also include fermented or germinated beans, > lentiles, chick peas, peas and other leguminous seeds, corn, almonds, > walnuts, hazel nuts, cashew nuts, sesame seeds, coconut water and pulp, > and about 3 times a week fresh raw fish, which I can easily get here in > Margarita Island, Venezuela, where we live. I avoid eating gluten (wheat > and barley, except germinated) and dairy products, soy beans (except > germinated), sugar, canned foods. Don´t smoke, never ever use coffee, > soft drinks. In some special ocasions I drink one or two cups of wine > with my family or close friends. I exercise every day (73 y.o.), > normally before 6 a.m. Can I come live at *your* house, Carlos??? That sounds so wonderful! > Again, thank you very much. You're most welcome, sir. You're doing an excellent job. Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>CS - sterilization
Hello, Terry, What you wrote confirms what I assumed: Colloidal Silver should take care of any microbes that, no matter how clean and careful we are while we make our batches, will come in contact with our utensils and product, and originate from our hands, dust in the air, etc. Thank you. Carlos From: Terry Chamberlin Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>CS - sterilization Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 22:31:33 -0400 (EDT) Carlos said, >I have never seen any of you mention the need of working under strict laboratory conditions, with permanent sterilization of containers, electrodes, utensils, etc.< Actually, I thoroughly sterilize my containers, electrodes, utensils, etc., with the best antispetic I know of. It's called Colloidal Silver! American Biotech received a license from the EPA to sell CS as a hospital antiseptic, and a dental mouthwash. It must be pretty good at killing microbes, eh? On the Good Bacteria issue, I have averaged 12 oz/day of 15-20 ppm CS ingestion for the last 7 years. Probiotics are a good idea just because they are a good idea, but I wouldn't take them at the same time as CS. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
CS>HVAC CS
Does anybody know where I can find reliable information on HVAC or DC systems for generating CS. I wish to experiment with this type of CS generation. Thanks. - Do you Yahoo!? Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail.
RE: CS>Characterizing Carlos' CS
Dear Dan, It was a very special surprise you gave me tonight. I am proud of having assimilated in a few weeks the teachings that you my friends have given me so far, to the point of having a product twice as good as I thought I had! I expected I would reach this point in around two weeks, after we made our new generator with current control from the diagram my friend John McLean sent me. Tonight I will sleep with a smile in my face! Thank you very much. Carlos From: Dan Nave Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: "silver-list@eskimo.com" Subject: CS>Characterizing Carlos' CS Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 21:27:51 -0500 Dear Carlos, I ran the data from your colloidal silver generator through the Microsoft Excel "Faraday Calculator" using as values a 450ml container with the intervals of 15 minutes and the currents indicated, ie: .4, 1.2, 1.8, 3.0, and 3.8ma. Average current is 2.04 ma over 1 hour, giving 18.25 ppm total silver released into the water by this process. Giving that you used a starter of 10% CS from a similarly made previous batch we can assume that there was already a maximum of 1.825 ppm worth of silver in the container giving an absolute maximum amount of approximately 20 ppm silver in your finished product. Of course, with losses of silver as seen by the residues on the electrodes, the actual ppm will be somewhat less. However, this gives a valuable gage of what you are making. I think your process and end product are very acceptable. Dan --- * From: * Carlos Pérez[SMTP:explorer...@hotmail.com] * Sent: * Thursday, September 14, 2006 7:50:47 PM * To: * silver-list@eskimo.com * Subject: * Re: CS>CS to help cure Ehrlichiosis? Mike, I answered your second one before reading your first one! Since I have not yet been able to buy a good quality generator (it would have to come from abroad), I am temporarily using the cheap one I have, and with it and with the help you wonderful people are giving me, I am making a better CS everyday. The voltage in the geneator is regulated to 27.5 V. Using 12% by volume of the previous batch as a starter, the reaction begins at around 0.4 mA. It can not be seen, but the miliamperimeter shows it. After 15 minutes it has risen to around 1.2 mA, and a faint activity can be seen wth the aid of a white light beam and a black background. 15 minutes later the reading is around 1.8 mA and the activity is more noticeable. 15 minutes later, the reading is around 3 mA, and the activity is very evident under the white beam. 15 minutes later, at the end of one hour from the beginning, the reading is around 3.8 mA and the activity is very profuse. At this moment I stop the reaction, and I get a transparent product with only a very slight yellowish hue. It has quite a strong silver flavour, similar to the one I got in my very original cloudy soup with chunks of silver and plenty of silver chloride I was making at the beginning, but much more decent looking. Following Terry´s suggestions, I bent the electrodes in an L form with a wide curve (like a half straightened U), and the lower third part is parallel to the bottom of the glass, and both electrodes parallel to each other. This has given me excellent results, almost no brown sludge, almost no sediment, and the cathode does not build a big bulk of silver-hydrogen minibubbles at the end and many smaller ones all its length, insted there are very numerous tiny fume-like streams being produced that float adrift, with few and small silver-hydrogen balls being produced all along the cathode. Even though it does not seem necessary, every few minuter I stirr with a plastic spoon. The anode remains quite clean, only a mild brownish creamy like covering that mostly comes out when cleaning with a paper towel at the end of the process. The cathode is practically totally clean after wiping it with the paper towel. With the help of a friend of mine, by next week we should have built a generator with a circuit based in a design John McLean very kindly sent me, with current control. We are oly missing one of the components ant it should be here next week. With it I should be able to make a much better product. I am very much interested in what you told me about the experience Robb Allen and Bryan Posner have had with Lymes disease. I will get in contact with the microelectricity germ killer Yahoo! group. I am still surprised there seems to be a total abscence of experience with Ehrlichiosis!!. Is .999 silver good enough to make new electrodes? It is the best I have found here so far to make larger diameter electrodes. The ones this generator brought are 0.8 mm wire. Too thin in my opinion. This one I found is made in Switzerland, small ingot with stamped seal, case and certificate. I will keep you friends informed about my learning process. Many thanks to all. Carlos -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free
RE: CS>Characterizing Carlos' CS
Dan, Thank you very much for attaching Trem´s post. It definitely more than answers my question concerning the purity of silver to be used. Carlos From: Dan Nave Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: "silver-list@eskimo.com" Subject: CS>Characterizing Carlos' CS Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 21:37:03 -0500 Carlos asks: > Is .999 silver good enough to make new electrodes? It is the best I have > found here so far to make larger diameter electrodes. The ones this > generator brought are 0.8 mm wire. Too thin in my opinion. This one I found > is made in Switzerland, small ingot with stamped seal, case and > certificate. I am attaching a copy of a post by Trem concerning the question: Hey Trem, do you guys have . silver electrodes available? Just curious. I see you only offer .999 on the web. Trem replies: CS>silver-digest Digest V2004 #78 From: Trem (view other messages by this author) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 16:43:32 Hi Ken, No we don't and for a couple of good reasons. Here' an excerpt from an article on our website written by Peter Lindemann. "Purity of Silver" The quality of your finished product depends entirely on the purity of the water you start with and the purity of the silver you start with. Most of the current literature suggests that only 99.% pure silver can be used. Most home brew systems use 99.9% pure silver. So, what is the difference? To find out, I contacted Academy Metals, a company in Albuquerque, New Mexico, that produces commercial silver. The total allowable impurities in 99.9% (.999 fine) silver is 1000 ppm or 1 part in 1000. These impurities and their maximums are 1) Copper, 800 ppm, 2) 2) Lead, 250 ppm, 3) 3) Iron, 200 ppm, and 4) 4) Bismuth, 10 ppm. This product is readily available in wire form and costs about $3.00 above the market (spot) price of silver. When this product is used to make electro-colloidal silver at a concentration of 5 ppm, the total impurities from the silver drop to 4 ppb (parts per billion) copper, 1.25 ppb lead, 1 ppb iron, .05 ppb bismuth. With all allowable impurities at these low levels, there is a reasonable argument for not being concerned. Still, sometimes small things make a big difference. 99.99% silver (. fine) has total allowable impurities of 100 ppm of the same metals in the same ratios, and costs (in wire form) between $50-$90 above the spot price of silver. 99.999% silver (.9 fine) has total allowable impurities of 10 ppm, and in wire form costs about $250 above the spot price. 99.% silver, in wire form, costs more than gold and is very difficult to find commercially. In one sample of 10 ppm colloidal silver we sent out for total analysis (made with 99.9% silver electrodes), the primary impurities found were: 1) Sodium, 470 ppb, 2) Calcium, 260 ppb, 3) Manganese, 70 ppb, 4) Potassium, 50 ppb, and 5) Magnesium, 24 ppb. Since none of these impurities could have come from the silver, it suggests that the purity of the water should be of greater concern to the person making their own colloidal silver, than spending extra money on purer silver." As you can see, there are probably more impurities in the water you use than in the electrodes. And of course the 1 part in 1000 impurity is usually copper and that's not harmful. It's just not an issue. I hope this helps you. Trem -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.2/442 - Release Date: 9/8/2006 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
CS>Faraday Calculator
The Faraday calculator can be found at this link and downloaded. It works great! http://www.silvermedicine.org/faradaycalculator.html Dan -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.2/442 - Release Date: 9/8/2006 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>How long does it last?
'Twas in jest Carlos... Personally I have no need for more than one dose per day mostly as a prophylactic. I'd rather ward off seasonal infections than have to cure them. A shot suits me just fine and has worked well for at least a decade. Your mileage may vary. Chuck _Professional Nuisance for Hire-- name a target, name a place, I'm there On 9/14/2006 9:02:06 PM, Carlos Pérez (explorer...@hotmail.com) wrote: > Chuck, > > When I am in my kitchen I also use a glass, but when I am exercising in my > > bicycle or climbing a mountain or jogging along the beach or in a car in a > > traffic jam, I do not find it practical to carry a shot glass and stop > everything I am doing in order to carefully pour the CS in it. By the way, > I > think you give too much importance to do it in a "Macho" way. > > Carlos > > > >From: cking...@nycap.rr.com > >Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com > >To: silver-list@eskimo.com 0 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>CS - sterilization
Carlos said, >I have never seen any of you mention the need of working under strict laboratory conditions, with permanent sterilization of containers, electrodes, utensils, etc.< Actually, I thoroughly sterilize my containers, electrodes, utensils, etc., with the best antispetic I know of. It's called Colloidal Silver! American Biotech received a license from the EPA to sell CS as a hospital antiseptic, and a dental mouthwash. It must be pretty good at killing microbes, eh? On the Good Bacteria issue, I have averaged 12 oz/day of 15-20 ppm CS ingestion for the last 7 years. Probiotics are a good idea just because they are a good idea, but I wouldn't take them at the same time as CS. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Characterizing Carlos' CS
Carlos asks: > Is .999 silver good enough to make new electrodes? It is the best I have > found here so far to make larger diameter electrodes. The ones this > generator brought are 0.8 mm wire. Too thin in my opinion. This one I found > is made in Switzerland, small ingot with stamped seal, case and > certificate. I am attaching a copy of a post by Trem concerning the question: Hey Trem, do you guys have . silver electrodes available? Just curious. I see you only offer .999 on the web. Trem replies: CS>silver-digest Digest V2004 #78 From: Trem (view other messages by this author) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 16:43:32 Hi Ken, No we don't and for a couple of good reasons. Here' an excerpt from an article on our website written by Peter Lindemann. "Purity of Silver" The quality of your finished product depends entirely on the purity of the water you start with and the purity of the silver you start with. Most of the current literature suggests that only 99.% pure silver can be used. Most home brew systems use 99.9% pure silver. So, what is the difference? To find out, I contacted Academy Metals, a company in Albuquerque, New Mexico, that produces commercial silver. The total allowable impurities in 99.9% (.999 fine) silver is 1000 ppm or 1 part in 1000. These impurities and their maximums are 1) Copper, 800 ppm, 2) 2) Lead, 250 ppm, 3) 3) Iron, 200 ppm, and 4) 4) Bismuth, 10 ppm. This product is readily available in wire form and costs about $3.00 above the market (spot) price of silver. When this product is used to make electro-colloidal silver at a concentration of 5 ppm, the total impurities from the silver drop to 4 ppb (parts per billion) copper, 1.25 ppb lead, 1 ppb iron, .05 ppb bismuth. With all allowable impurities at these low levels, there is a reasonable argument for not being concerned. Still, sometimes small things make a big difference. 99.99% silver (. fine) has total allowable impurities of 100 ppm of the same metals in the same ratios, and costs (in wire form) between $50-$90 above the spot price of silver. 99.999% silver (.9 fine) has total allowable impurities of 10 ppm, and in wire form costs about $250 above the spot price. 99.% silver, in wire form, costs more than gold and is very difficult to find commercially. In one sample of 10 ppm colloidal silver we sent out for total analysis (made with 99.9% silver electrodes), the primary impurities found were: 1) Sodium, 470 ppb, 2) Calcium, 260 ppb, 3) Manganese, 70 ppb, 4) Potassium, 50 ppb, and 5) Magnesium, 24 ppb. Since none of these impurities could have come from the silver, it suggests that the purity of the water should be of greater concern to the person making their own colloidal silver, than spending extra money on purer silver." As you can see, there are probably more impurities in the water you use than in the electrodes. And of course the 1 part in 1000 impurity is usually copper and that's not harmful. It's just not an issue. I hope this helps you. Trem -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.2/442 - Release Date: 9/8/2006 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Characterizing Carlos' CS
Dear Carlos, I ran the data from your colloidal silver generator through the Microsoft Excel "Faraday Calculator" using as values a 450ml container with the intervals of 15 minutes and the currents indicated, ie: .4, 1.2, 1.8, 3.0, and 3.8ma. Average current is 2.04 ma over 1 hour, giving 18.25 ppm total silver released into the water by this process. Giving that you used a starter of 10% CS from a similarly made previous batch we can assume that there was already a maximum of 1.825 ppm worth of silver in the container giving an absolute maximum amount of approximately 20 ppm silver in your finished product. Of course, with losses of silver as seen by the residues on the electrodes, the actual ppm will be somewhat less. However, this gives a valuable gage of what you are making. I think your process and end product are very acceptable. Dan --- * From: * Carlos Pérez[SMTP:explorer...@hotmail.com] * Sent: * Thursday, September 14, 2006 7:50:47 PM * To: * silver-list@eskimo.com * Subject: * Re: CS>CS to help cure Ehrlichiosis? Mike, I answered your second one before reading your first one! Since I have not yet been able to buy a good quality generator (it would have to come from abroad), I am temporarily using the cheap one I have, and with it and with the help you wonderful people are giving me, I am making a better CS everyday. The voltage in the geneator is regulated to 27.5 V. Using 12% by volume of the previous batch as a starter, the reaction begins at around 0.4 mA. It can not be seen, but the miliamperimeter shows it. After 15 minutes it has risen to around 1.2 mA, and a faint activity can be seen wth the aid of a white light beam and a black background. 15 minutes later the reading is around 1.8 mA and the activity is more noticeable. 15 minutes later, the reading is around 3 mA, and the activity is very evident under the white beam. 15 minutes later, at the end of one hour from the beginning, the reading is around 3.8 mA and the activity is very profuse. At this moment I stop the reaction, and I get a transparent product with only a very slight yellowish hue. It has quite a strong silver flavour, similar to the one I got in my very original cloudy soup with chunks of silver and plenty of silver chloride I was making at the beginning, but much more decent looking. Following Terry´s suggestions, I bent the electrodes in an L form with a wide curve (like a half straightened U), and the lower third part is parallel to the bottom of the glass, and both electrodes parallel to each other. This has given me excellent results, almost no brown sludge, almost no sediment, and the cathode does not build a big bulk of silver-hydrogen minibubbles at the end and many smaller ones all its length, insted there are very numerous tiny fume-like streams being produced that float adrift, with few and small silver-hydrogen balls being produced all along the cathode. Even though it does not seem necessary, every few minuter I stirr with a plastic spoon. The anode remains quite clean, only a mild brownish creamy like covering that mostly comes out when cleaning with a paper towel at the end of the process. The cathode is practically totally clean after wiping it with the paper towel. With the help of a friend of mine, by next week we should have built a generator with a circuit based in a design John McLean very kindly sent me, with current control. We are oly missing one of the components ant it should be here next week. With it I should be able to make a much better product. I am very much interested in what you told me about the experience Robb Allen and Bryan Posner have had with Lymes disease. I will get in contact with the microelectricity germ killer Yahoo! group. I am still surprised there seems to be a total abscence of experience with Ehrlichiosis!!. Is .999 silver good enough to make new electrodes? It is the best I have found here so far to make larger diameter electrodes. The ones this generator brought are 0.8 mm wire. Too thin in my opinion. This one I found is made in Switzerland, small ingot with stamped seal, case and certificate. I will keep you friends informed about my learning process. Many thanks to all. Carlos -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.2/442 - Release Date: 9/8/2006 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>How long does it last?
Chuck, When I am in my kitchen I also use a glass, but when I am exercising in my bicycle or climbing a mountain or jogging along the beach or in a car in a traffic jam, I do not find it practical to carry a shot glass and stop everything I am doing in order to carefully pour the CS in it. By the way, I think you give too much importance to do it in a "Macho" way. Carlos From: cking...@nycap.rr.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>How long does it last? Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 20:47:11 -0400 Geez, What's all this about drinking from the bottle? I use a shot glass. It's just as macho! Chuck _Rebel without a clue On 9/14/2006 4:31:17 PM, Carlos Pérez (explorer...@hotmail.com) wrote: >In using CS directly from a bottle my technique is very similar to the one >Mike Devour and family use: I hold its neck with my hand, lean my thumb >below my lower lip and just pour the liquid inside my mouth without touching >the bottle with it. These bottles that are used for direct drinking are >washed and boiled before filling them again, but the ones where we keep our >stock of CS are just refilled once they are empty. > >If I am wrong please correct me. I want to learn more every day. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour _ Don't just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.com/
CS>I WON!!!!!
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Re: CS>CS to help cure Ehrlichiosis?
Mike, I answered your second one before reading your first one! Since I have not yet been able to buy a good quality generator (it would have to come from abroad), I am temporarily using the cheap one I have, and with it and with the help you wonderful people are giving me, I am making a better CS everyday. The voltage in the geneator is regulated to 27.5 V. Using 12% by volume of the previous batch as a starter, the reaction begins at around 0.4 mA. It can not be seen, but the miliamperimeter shows it. After 15 minutes it has risen to around 1.2 mA, and a faint activity can be seen wth the aid of a white light beam and a black background. 15 minutes later the reading is around 1.8 mA and the activity is more noticeable. 15 minutes later, the reading is around 3 mA, and the activity is very evident under the white beam. 15 minutes later, at the end of one hour from the beginning, the reading is around 3.8 mA and the activity is very profuse. At this moment I stop the reaction, and I get a transparent product with only a very slight yellowish hue. It has quite a strong silver flavour, similar to the one I got in my very original cloudy soup with chunks of silver and plenty of silver chloride I was making at the beginning, but much more decent looking. Following Terry´s suggestions, I bent the electrodes in an L form with a wide curve (like a half straightened U), and the lower third part is parallel to the bottom of the glass, and both electrodes parallel to each other. This has given me excellent results, almost no brown sludge, almost no sediment, and the cathode does not build a big bulk of silver-hydrogen minibubbles at the end and many smaller ones all its length, insted there are very numerous tiny fume-like streams being produced that float adrift, with few and small silver-hydrogen balls being produced all along the cathode. Even though it does not seem necessary, every few minuter I stirr with a plastic spoon. The anode remains quite clean, only a mild brownish creamy like covering that mostly comes out when cleaning with a paper towel at the end of the process. The cathode is practically totally clean after wiping it with the paper towel. With the help of a friend of mine, by next week we should have built a generator with a circuit based in a design John McLean very kindly sent me, with current control. We are oly missing one of the components ant it should be here next week. With it I should be able to make a much better product. I am very much interested in what you told me about the experience Robb Allen and Bryan Posner have had with Lymes disease. I will get in contact with the microelectricity germ killer Yahoo! group. I am still surprised there seems to be a total abscence of experience with Ehrlichiosis!!. Is .999 silver good enough to make new electrodes? It is the best I have found here so far to make larger diameter electrodes. The ones this generator brought are 0.8 mm wire. Too thin in my opinion. This one I found is made in Switzerland, small ingot with stamped seal, case and certificate. I will keep you friends informed about my learning process. Many thanks to all. Carlos From: "M. G. Devour" Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>CS to help cure Ehrlichiosis? Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 18:02:28 -5 Dear Carlos, It sounds like you are making good progress. Please remind us of the design of your generator and the "recipe" that you follow, so we can have a better idea of what your CS is like. The odds are good you'll be able to increase to at least a cup or two per day in spaced doses without fear, assuming it's the same 10 to 15 ppm that most of us make. If you want to minimize whatever small chance there is of causing argyria, merely supplement with small doses of vitamin E and selenium for the duration of your use of larger doses. In addition, since Ehrlichiosis is so similar to Lyme in its pathology, you should look into some of the other treatment protocols Lyme disease patients have been using to treat themselves. Our friend Robb Allen, his colleague Bryan Posner, and others who populate the magpulser, EnergyPulser, and microelectricitygermkiller Yahoo! groups are all people you should become acquainted with. Bryan and Robb both kicked chronic Lyme with a spectrum of therapies they developed. Bryan published a book about his research, in fact. Stay in touch and let us know how you get along. Good luck! Be well, Mike D. > Hello, friends, > > Again, I would like to know if there is anyone with experience in > treating Ehrlichiosis with CS. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Ad
Re: CS>How long does it last?
Geez, What's all this about drinking from the bottle? I use a shot glass. It's just as macho! Chuck _Rebel without a clue On 9/14/2006 4:31:17 PM, Carlos Pérez (explorer...@hotmail.com) wrote: >In using CS directly from a bottle my technique is very similar to the one >Mike Devour and family use: I hold its neck with my hand, lean my thumb >below my lower lip and just pour the liquid inside my mouth without touching >the bottle with it. These bottles that are used for direct drinking are >washed and boiled before filling them again, but the ones where we keep our >stock of CS are just refilled once they are empty. > >If I am wrong please correct me. I want to learn more every day. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Batteries, Stills, Primitive Location ?
I'm always interested in stuffl like this too one never knows what tomorrow will bringknowledge is powerthanks debbie Wayne Fugitt wrote: Morning Jonathan, >>At 10:27 PM 9/13/2006, you wrote: >I'd be very interested to see a kind of survival still/generator >setup, at modest price. I have thought about this also. Not necessarily the still, but of course it is required, equally as important as the generator. > A good solar still could make large quantities of distilled > water; a solar-powered generator could turn the water into EIS. What quantity do you have in mind as "Large Quantity"? A few years ago, I had a friend in the business of building Solar Panels. One of the engineers there turned down a trailer load of blemished solar panels. Most products that are blemished are still very good. Once a battery manufacturer had a lot of blemished clear case batteries. They were blemished because the clear cases were cleaned improperly. They were not clear in places. Seems some kind of acid was used to clean them and this produced streaks and spots. I was able to buy them for the price of scrap lead. I tested all that I purchased and every single one was the most uniform batteries I have ever seen. While they made batteries for other companies with other labels, these were being manufactured for their own label. I sold one lot to a Fire Station, explaining the situation and giving them a full warranty. I never had a problem with a single battery. Back to the solar panels, I did get a few free blemished panels. One has been over in my field for a few years, still connected to a battery. Guess it would be interesting to see if it is still working. I was powering a long range photo beam which I had connected into a computer to data log deer movement. Interesting and fun for sure. Are you saying this Survival Still / Generator will be in a remote location where no power is available? The still would have a sizable power requirement, unless the Solar Still principle was used. I have a still I have never put into use that states it will deliver 3 gallons per hour. Current draw is 16 amps at 240 volts. It does need circulating water in the water jacket. It is 50 years old. Brass and Copper lasts a long time. I am sure I could find many heating elements that would work, in case that one does not. Since I got if free, I did not inspect it too closely. > A well made integrated device selling for under 500 bucks might > find a solid market. Still curious how you will power it? Commercial Power? If so, that simplifies many problems. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour - Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less.
Re: CS>How long does it last?
Marshall ...Ode ...thanks so much for the info...debbie Ode Coyote wrote: EIS/CS doesn't have a "charge" [as commonly promoted as ionic charge ] after a few hours. Once all the ions find the anions made at the same time, it's over all charge neutral and particle repulsion is presented by weak Vandervals forces, not "ionic charge". Being extremely chemically active, it's not likely that many, if any, "free ions" exist after a few hours. What ions get stripped off in vivo and -become- ionically charged -again-..and what that does, is a subject for many guesses. It is, however, generally stable on the shelf for years if only pure water is present. In the presence of other substances, it's not very stable. Ions strip easily. Ode At 02:12 AM 9/13/2006 +, you wrote: >Does cs loose it's charge within a month ...how long does it last? thanks deb > > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.3/447 - Release Date: 9/13/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.3/447 - Release Date: 9/13/2006 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour - How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! MessengerÂs low PC-to-Phone call rates.
Re: CS>Intestinal flora damaged by CS?
Dear Mike, Thank you very much for your very kind response. I will take it very much into consideration, and therefore be on the watch for equivalent sympthoms. My normal diet consists basically of an abundant supply of raw fruts and vegetables of all kinds. I also include fermented or germinated beans, lentiles, chick peas, peas and other leguminous seeds, corn, almonds, walnuts, hazel nuts, cashew nuts, sesame seeds, coconut water and pulp, and about 3 times a week fresh raw fish, which I can easily get here in Margarita Island, Venezuela, where we live. I avoid eating gluten (wheat and barley, except germinated) and dairy products, soy beans (except germinated), sugar, canned foods. Don´t smoke, never ever use coffee, soft drinks. In some special ocasions I drink one or two cups of wine with my family or close friends. I exercise every day (73 y.o.), normally before 6 a.m. Except for my chronic ehrlichiosis, I never get sick, not even a cold. Since I am new in the use of CS, I have been very precautious but as my product gets better I am gradually increasing my daily intake almos every day. In the meantime I keep learning with the great help that you and others are giving me. I value very much the great service you do by helping others improve their health through this excellent list. Again, thank you very much. Carlos From: "M. G. Devour" Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Intestinal flora damaged by CS? Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 18:12:56 -5 Dear Carlos, Back in my earlier days of experimenting with CS, I went for a spell of probably several weeks, taking several mouthfuls per day of fairly concentrated CS (probably 20ppm or more, large particles, dark amber colored). I started to feel tired and weak, with achiness in my large muscle groups. It was starting to be painful to climb stairs, get out of a chair, or otherwise haul myself around. Then somebody on the list happened to describe the symptoms of acute calcium deficiency, which matched what I was experiencing. I asked Rosie to go to the store and buy me a half-gallon of orange juice with added calcium citrate. After drinking a few glasses of that over the course of a day, I was back to normal. It turns out that our intenstinal flora is crucial to absorption of calcium, and I had succeeded in disrupting mine. So it can happen. CS is indiscriminate in the germs it will kill. However, it works best in a liquid environment, and least well in a solid medium. Thus it tends not to disrupt intestinal flora unless you're particularly aggressive with it. Repopulating with probiotics or other aids is a prudent measure to take, as it should greatly speed re-establishment of the healthy colony of "friendly" bacteria we so depend on. Be well, Mike D. > Hello, > > I have read many times that CS does not damage our helpful bacteria, but > recently there was a comment recommending use of yoghurt or other > acidophilous culture in order to correct the damage caused by CS to our > fermentative intestinal flora after prolongued use. > > How long and at what doses does "prolongued" mean? [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
CS>Silver plating ("tarnish"?) on glass (and on teeth?)
Hello, it´s me again (Different subject every time!!) Even though my CS is by now totally transparent an practically as colorless as the bi-distilled water I use (only an almost imperceptible hint of yellow), and with many indications of mostly very small (nano size) particles being produced, I am getting a bright, slightly darkened "plating" on the inside of the 450 ml glass I use to produce my CS. Could this also happen to my teeth? Could this mean that my CS is not good enough yet? I read somewhere that the glass should be cleaned by dry-rubbing it with the soft green ScotchBrite material that I use to clean the electrodes with, and later rinse the glass with distilled water. Is this "tarnish" equivalent to the case recently mentioned in the list and responded by Ode with a suggestion to use aluminum foil to correct it? In the meantime, after several batches, today I filled the glass with water, added some salt and put a piece of aluminum foil inside. After several hours, I don´t know if it is my imagination, but it seems to be working!. I will tell you later. Carlos _ Get real-time traffic reports with Windows Live Local Search http://local.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&cp=42.336065~-109.392273&style=r&lvl=4&scene=3712634&trfc=1 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Intestinal flora damaged by CS?
Dear Carlos, Back in my earlier days of experimenting with CS, I went for a spell of probably several weeks, taking several mouthfuls per day of fairly concentrated CS (probably 20ppm or more, large particles, dark amber colored). I started to feel tired and weak, with achiness in my large muscle groups. It was starting to be painful to climb stairs, get out of a chair, or otherwise haul myself around. Then somebody on the list happened to describe the symptoms of acute calcium deficiency, which matched what I was experiencing. I asked Rosie to go to the store and buy me a half-gallon of orange juice with added calcium citrate. After drinking a few glasses of that over the course of a day, I was back to normal. It turns out that our intenstinal flora is crucial to absorption of calcium, and I had succeeded in disrupting mine. So it can happen. CS is indiscriminate in the germs it will kill. However, it works best in a liquid environment, and least well in a solid medium. Thus it tends not to disrupt intestinal flora unless you're particularly aggressive with it. Repopulating with probiotics or other aids is a prudent measure to take, as it should greatly speed re-establishment of the healthy colony of "friendly" bacteria we so depend on. Be well, Mike D. > Hello, > > I have read many times that CS does not damage our helpful bacteria, but > recently there was a comment recommending use of yoghurt or other > acidophilous culture in order to correct the damage caused by CS to our > fermentative intestinal flora after prolongued use. > > How long and at what doses does "prolongued" mean? [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Intestinal flora damaged by CS?
Carlos hello, CS is also an anti-bioticaso take always some joghuert or acidophulis pro-biotic the good flora... I think the CS will kill all the bacterials ,virusses and infections. To get no candida do'nt forget read the websites... from Google. COLLOIDAL SILVER - Outstanding results Studies indicate that colloidal silver may enhance the immune system and cell ... also take a probiotic. Take this a few hours after taking AIMEarthWiseT. ... www.yourlifesource.com/earthwise.htm - 23k - In cache - Gelijkwaardige pagina's Antibacterial silver products finally begin to emerge after years ... People aren't turning silver from taking colloidal silver, by the way. ... Rely on probiotics any time you're using silver internally, as you will need them ... www.newstarget.com/010761.html - 44k - In cache - Gelijkwaardige pagina's Trudy - Original Message - From: "Carlos Pérez" To: Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 11:33 PM Subject: CS>Intestinal flora damaged by CS? Hello, I have read many times that CS does not damage our helpful bacteria, but recently there was a comment recommending use of yoghurt or other acidophilous culture in order to correct the damage caused by CS to our fermentative intestinal flora after prolongued use. How long and at what doses does "prolongued" mean? Any comments about the subject? _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>CS to help cure Ehrlichiosis?
Dear Carlos, It sounds like you are making good progress. Please remind us of the design of your generator and the "recipe" that you follow, so we can have a better idea of what your CS is like. The odds are good you'll be able to increase to at least a cup or two per day in spaced doses without fear, assuming it's the same 10 to 15 ppm that most of us make. If you want to minimize whatever small chance there is of causing argyria, merely supplement with small doses of vitamin E and selenium for the duration of your use of larger doses. In addition, since Ehrlichiosis is so similar to Lyme in its pathology, you should look into some of the other treatment protocols Lyme disease patients have been using to treat themselves. Our friend Robb Allen, his colleague Bryan Posner, and others who populate the magpulser, EnergyPulser, and microelectricitygermkiller Yahoo! groups are all people you should become acquainted with. Bryan and Robb both kicked chronic Lyme with a spectrum of therapies they developed. Bryan published a book about his research, in fact. Stay in touch and let us know how you get along. Good luck! Be well, Mike D. > Hello, friends, > > Again, I would like to know if there is anyone with experience in > treating Ehrlichiosis with CS. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Intestinal flora damaged by CS?
Hello, I have read many times that CS does not damage our helpful bacteria, but recently there was a comment recommending use of yoghurt or other acidophilous culture in order to correct the damage caused by CS to our fermentative intestinal flora after prolongued use. How long and at what doses does "prolongued" mean? Any comments about the subject? _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>CS to help cure Ehrlichiosis?
Hello, friends, Again, I would like to know if there is anyone with experience in treating Ehrlichiosis with CS. Ehrlichiosis is an emerging and very much widespread disease (nowadays probably more than Lymes) that can be deadly, produced by bacteria that enter our blood cells and damage them, and can also damage practically all our organs and our central nervous system. It is transmitted mainly through ticks as vectors. In all populated areas dogs can be reservoirs of the disease, and ticks and it seems fleas and others may and do transmit it from them to humans. In USA alone there are several hundred new cases every year, and many thowsands more in the rest of the world. (CDCs,specially the one at Atlanta, GA, have done very much to control it.) There is no country free from it. As I read many comments about CS killing unicellular blood parasites, I feel it could work to successfully treat Ehrlichiosis. I got it around ten years ago. Due to misdiagnosis it became chronic, therefore very hard to cure. It practically invaded all my organs. I am learning, with the help of several of you in the list, how to make a good quality CS product at home. Since it seems my product is fairly good already and improving every day, by now I am using 6 Tbsp along the day and planning to gradually increase the ammount, and also spray my nostrils with several dropperfuls as I wake up in the morning and when I go to bed at night. Thank you for any information regarding the subject. Carlos _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>How long does it last?
Hello, Ode, As you know, I am new to CS (3 months), and have learned a lot from you and several other list members. I have read many opinions about CS contamination and durability, and from what I conclude I assume that simply working with reasonable care and cleanliness should be enough to have a good quality home product that should last at least for many months. I have never seen any of you mention the need of working under strict laboratory conditions, with permanent sterilization of containers, electrodes, utensils, etc., use of sterile latex gloves, hermetically closed working environment, etc. Of course very clean hands are not sterile, electrodes that are polished with ScotchBrite tissue and cleaned with an unused paper towel are not sterile, a freshly emptied bottle from last batch is not sterile, dust and lint that are floating in the air and falling all over us and the batch we are making are not sterile either, and as I have understood from you and others we don´t need to be paranoic about many microbes that end up inside our CS batch. As long as we use high quality distilled water (I use steam bi-distilled, de-ionized water employed for laboratory analysis) and have an adequate process that yields a good quality product I understand that we should not worry about it lasting enough. In using CS directly from a bottle my technique is very similar to the one Mike Devour and family use: I hold its neck with my hand, lean my thumb below my lower lip and just pour the liquid inside my mouth without touching the bottle with it. These bottles that are used for direct drinking are washed and boiled before filling them again, but the ones where we keep our stock of CS are just refilled once they are empty. If I am wrong please correct me. I want to learn more every day. Thank you. Carlos From: Ode Coyote Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>How long does it last? Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 09:14:07 -0400 EIS/CS doesn't have a "charge" [as commonly promoted as ionic charge ] after a few hours. Once all the ions find the anions made at the same time, it's over all charge neutral and particle repulsion is presented by weak Vandervals forces, not "ionic charge". Being extremely chemically active, it's not likely that many, if any, "free ions" exist after a few hours. What ions get stripped off in vivo and -become- ionically charged -again-..and what that does, is a subject for many guesses. It is, however, generally stable on the shelf for years if only pure water is present. In the presence of other substances, it's not very stable. Ions strip easily. Ode _ Got something to buy, sell or swap? Try Windows Live Expo ttp://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwex001001msn/direct/01/?href=http://expo.live.com/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>[RE]CS>(no subject)
Diatribe? no way, thanks Brooks for all that wonderful information on the care and feeding of older dogs. WhereI live dog food is 15% taxed, but human food is not and neither is agriculture products for non pet animals. ha ha. I feed my 10 yr white gs buffalo every day. Again thanks for your imput and send diatribes anytime. Ross - Original Message - From: Brooks Bradley To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 8:13 PM Subject: CS>[RE]CS>(no subject) Dear Geo, I made the original post. We use the granulated form of alfalfa for all of our dogs (in our Orphaned Dog Program). You can purchase granulated (almost powdered) alfalfa from any well-stocked feed store. A forty pound sack should not cost over about $15.00enough to feed 200 large dogs for two years. A dog the size of the one to which you refer should do quite well on one teaspoon daily. Just sprinkle it on his food (if you feed only dry food, add just enough water to cause the alfalfa granules to adhere to the foodstuff) and mix well. We have never had a single dog refuse to consume alfalfa offered in this manner. Our dietary program is not one of the usual types. We employ a variation of Langsley Russell's raw meat (ground chuck and whole chicken quarters) and bones system, with the addition of 1/2 to 1 cup (depending on dog size) of RAW UNPROCESSED cow's milk. We do add various vegetables twice weekly, together with cooked oatmeal served three times w! eekly. We do give the older dogs (over 12 years) vitamin supplementation in powdered form. At present we have 17 dogs of various ages. They are NEVER sick with any of the conventional afflictions so dearly loved by the veterinary profession. We do give brewers yeast as a daily supplementto everyone. True, the daily cost per dog is somewhat greater than a canned ration (dead food), supplemented with a dry kibble type crumbles; but the OVERALL cost per dog is demonstrably less on a total care, yearly basis (no vet bills). We DO feed every dog 1 teaspoon of granulated kelp daily. No additional minerals of any type are fed. My apologies for this lengthy diatribeeven though it does expose my misanthropic tendencies when stacking the human race up against the world's canine representatives. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. p.s. Prior to instigating this feeding program our average yearly vet bills were, always, in excess of $3500. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- >Subject : CS>(no subject) >Date : Sat, 9 Sep 2006 07:30:10 EDT >From : geop...@aol.com >To : silver-list@eskimo.com >Cc : k...@verizon.com > >would like to get my 100# plus, lab / shep, on this alfalfa,,,confused with >dosage, recommended, as search on on net reveals standard tablet is 648 mg,, >not 50...even a multiple has 200 mg of alfalfa was this a typo ?... post >reads something like 12 tabs for up to 60#,,, this would mean close to 24 tabs >for my girl "ping",, or should I just calculate mg's..thanks geo. > -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.3/446 - Release Date: 9/12/2006
Re: CS>
Lisa wrote: > Dear Fello Lister's, >Not to try to keep such a tragedy on the forefront of the topics, >but i do want to share what i was able to see on the animal >planet documentaries this week. Thank you for the illuminating profile of the fellow's activities. > p.p.s. Marshalee, get the facts next time. Marshalee explained herself in another posting. I believe we should let this subject DROP now. Thank you. Mike Devour silver-list owner [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>To Bill and the Aussies, speaking up
Dearest Faith, I suspect you received the same mail from Bill Keen that I did. It was sent to us privately, however, and not through the silver list. Politics and religion are thoroughly prohibited topics on the silver list for the obvious reason that people cannot discuss them without nearly instant degeneration into arguments and flames. The only exceptions to the prohibition are items of politics directly related to CS or important alternative health news, and, in terms of religion, the occasional passing reference, offers of blessings, or requests for prayers that most people indulge in without the appearance of purposeful evangelization. Please discuss it on the Off Topic List, if you like, but let's not respond to this posting here at all, folks! Thank you. Mike Devour Silver List owner > Bill Keen wrote: >> Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law > were told on > > Wednesday to get out of Australia, as the government targeted radicals > in a bid to head off potential terror attacks. << > > > > > > Thanks Bill, > > > > Straightforward posting, a bit steely-sharp, and to whom it may concern. > > > > See, my friends: > > > > Koran preaches PEACE, like Bible does! And NOT war (holy war? war = > holy? ridiculous!). > > Koran does NOT preach "Fire and Sword" in the melody some (most) of > nowaday's Muslim priests do. > > Koran does NOT put women second place. (Did you know that based on this, > there is a Muslim "womens lib." organization in the US? In California!) > > For your grinning: there is ONE Muslim priest in Egypt preaching > mentioned Koran peace, raising his voice AGAINST the now-a-day > aggression that goes round in the Muslim world. He was put away by the > government; sent to a remote township in the south of the country. Sound > familiar? > > > > Kind of an immigrant myself, I can feel what Mr. Bill feels. There is a > threat for all of us after 9/11, everywhere in the world. And when it is > obvious where the threat is greatest, any country (or citizen, for that > is what any country is about, right?) has the right to stop it. > > > > Only: let us please NOT go for a witch hunt. Because amongst Muslims, > like amongst Christians and Buddhists, Shintoists and Hindus, there are > many more GOOD souls around than bad ones. > > Problem (for lack of another word) is that the GOOD ones are often > quiet, taciturn, hard working light-and-peace bearers. And they are > themselves much offended and often threatened by the > noise-of-words-deeds-and-preaching (the biblical empty cymbals) of > those who pretend (no more than that) to be warriors. For real warriors > are different. > > > > We can elaborate much more on this (that would be rather for the off > topic list I guess); > > I would like to leave it at this: In my home we have the Bible between > Koran and holy Hindu books, like the Bhagavad Gita. > > Religion has caused to so many, pain, death and intolerable grief, that > it is time that we, as individuals, start to live like those (Biblically > and without doubt also Koranly promised) longing for the ecumenical > times. For we, the citizens, the main characters of any culture, we can > do it, while churches cannot. > > > > Faith > > Nonconformist Christian, free thinker, Globalist. > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > > The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ]
Re: CS>Crocodile Hunter, Irwin, Killed in accident
And now I hope Jean has caught up sufficiently with her e-mail to see my request that nobody respond to this thread. It is always best to withhold sending any responses until you've caught up with all of your mail. You risk reviving week old issues and open yourself up to the displeasure of the moderator! Thanks Marshalee for a temperate reply. Now let's move on. Thank you. Mike Devour silver list owner > Crocodile Hunter, Irwin, Killed in accidentLisa and Jean, > I never said the guy was cruel or that he mistreated anything. All I > ever saw of him what was on the Animal Planet TV show. They showed him > grabbing poisonous snakes, or wrestling ugly old crocodiles, neither > of which I care to see. Sure they have their place in the ecology, but > I plain don`t want to watch shows about them, or sharks either. > Now meerkats are cool!! > That bit where he was dangling his new baby in front of a croc was a > very stupid act, imho. > You can worship the guy if you want, I still think he was silly and > not very entertaining. I couldn`t hit the remote button fast enough to > get his image off the screen. Maybe in real life off screen he was a > great guy, that is fine. I just didn`t see any of that. > No one will miss me when I go; do I care? Not a bit. > Marshalee > > > Marshalee, > > You really should open your eyes. The man was a rare jewel among > humans. > > I guess the answer lies in how many mourn a person after they die? >His friends can't be counted. > > How many do you think will miss you? > > Jean > > * > > Sorry, but I won`t miss him at all. > He was annoying, and not very entertaining. > It really irked me at how he made his living by irritating > animals. He irritated the wrong one this time... I do feel sorry > for his family. Marshalee > > > -- > > [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Being careful with CS
All I do is, instead of putting my lips directly on the bottle, touch the outside of the threads to my lower lip in order to locate it properly, and *pour* the CS into my mouth. My saliva never gets into the CS, thus prolonging its shelf-life. My kids have easily adopted the same precaution as well. With due (and great) respect for Terry, I think the precaution is justified and easily enough done to be worthwhile. Be well, Mike D. > Yes, thnx Terry, arent we a silly creature after all? > haha @ ourselves, what is silver anyway? It kills bacteria, why would > we worry about contamination from our own mouths if it will kill the > germs that ail us?? It is to laugh at least I laughed at myself > when I realized I worried about it... > Godspeed all, Lisa. > > debbiegerar...@comcast.net wrote: > Thanks Terrydeb > > -- Original message -- > From: Terry Chamberlin > > > Pat said, > > >I thought someone warned once to never drink out of > > the bottle of CS because it would cause it to fall out > > of suspension if it is contaminated with anything. < > > > > Many, many of my clients drink CS right out of the > > bottle either to save having to measure out the CS > > (why bother?), or because they are carrying the CS > > around with them all day for frequent ingestion. > > > > This is just mineral water, folks, not a medicine or a > > chemical. You don't need to be careful with it. > > Remember, when you drink CS, it goes into a soup of > > all kinds of stuff in your stomach. Still works, > > though. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>How long does it last?
So goes my theory that EIS/CS negative charge contributes to its healing properties. Ed Kasper LAc. Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@alltel.net] Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 6:14 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>How long does it last? EIS/CS doesn't have a "charge" [as commonly promoted as ionic charge ] after a few hours. Once all the ions find the anions made at the same time, it's over all charge neutral and particle repulsion is presented by weak Vandervals forces, not "ionic charge". Being extremely chemically active, it's not likely that many, if any, "free ions" exist after a few hours. What ions get stripped off in vivo and -become- ionically charged -again-..and what that does, is a subject for many guesses. It is, however, generally stable on the shelf for years if only pure water is present. In the presence of other substances, it's not very stable. Ions strip easily. Ode -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>FW: CS>AG Deodorant
I like the idea, But what about the chlorine in the tap water. Isn't chlorine evaporated, and thus would end up in the cooler bottle. A second stage would be necessary to to allow the chlorine to evaporate off. Ed Kasper LAc. Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: Lisa Shepherd [mailto:windwalkers...@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 11:57 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>FW: CS>AG Deodorant if you would like to "distill" some of the tap water, it is really quite simple, my a/c instructor told me about this method, used to clean freon as an experiment he tried, should work well with water in warm weather, though you would need a tester to verify how clean it came through. Thought I would share it so someone could try anyway, as I am not home enough to do these kinds of tests at this time. Simply place a bottle of the tap water outside where it is very warm/hot, run a tube through a window or small opening, into another empty bottle, natural process occurs, the vapor that heat creates becomes liquid again on the inside "cool" bottle. If you try this let me know how it goes, have thought many times of trying it but havent gotten settled enough to do such things yet, still unpacking...ugh...at 1 day a week it will take me 3 years to get it all unpackedlol...good luck. Godspeed all, Lisa. Marshall Dudley wrote: "Jonathan B. Britten" wrote: > I should have mentioned that we can indeed make our own products at > almost no cost. I've never tried, but if it works, deodorant would be > very nearly free. The products in the stores are oven quite lucrative > for the manufacturers. > > One could make a pint or two of EIS, store it in plastic atomizer > bottles, and have a ready supply of deodorant for pennies. That could > add up to enormous savings over time. > > I should try. I'll post the results. > > BTW, seems plain tap water would work all right for this purpose; > you'd end up with silver salts, but for use on the skin it shouldn't > matter much. In my little home experiments, tap water produces lots > of sliver salts very quickly. One should never ingest these, but for a > homemade deodorant, tap water would be cheaper and faster. On an > automatic generator, the shutoff is pretty fast. > Actually in the case of argyria, silver salts on the skin is worse than taking by mouth. Silver salts have been known to cause argyria in a matter of minutes on the skin with only one application. The reason is that when taken by mouth it would take a good bit to reach the threashold value of salts in the skin, but when applied directly it can only take a drop. Marshall > > JBB > > On Friday, Sep 1, 2006, at 05:41 Asia/Tokyo, Richard Harris wrote: > > > I have been using 19ppm CS twice daily as a splash-on > > deodorant and have been very pleased with it. > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > > The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > -- Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out.
CS>
-Original Message- From: Medwith, Robert Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 12:39 PM To: 'cs' Subject: FW: Current Regulators for constant current CS Generators List of current Regulator you can use on any DC power source to Make a constant current CS generator available from mail order electronic sources. You just have to pick the Mill amp rating you want I use around 1 mill amp, the regulator adjust voltage up or down with in specs of power supply To maintain constant 1 mill amp. Works on even a 3 volt DC source, you just move silver closer together, if you have a cheap volt meter You can watch voltage go down as you move silver closer together and also watch voltage go down as your CS gets stronger. I believe most of these regulators are under $5, you could have a constant current CS Generator for lest than $10 or less than $5 if you have a small power supply laying around. Bob <> Current_Regulators.pdf Description: Binary data
Re: CS>Batteries, Stills, Primitive Location ?
I'd be very interested to see a kind of survival still/generator setup, at modest price. Hello Wayne and Jonathan WHEN YOU HAVE A SURVIVAL GENERATOR I LIKE TO HEAR THAT TOO. WHEN IT GETS DARK FOR 3 DAYS ON 21-12 -2012 ...THERE WILL BE NO SUN...SO WE HAVE TO MAKE SOME CS EARLIER...the solar will not work at that time? I have good news..my Specialist Doctor on the hospital likes to know more about the CS..I've told him I used it and it healed better than the Anti-biotics...and without side -effects. I've got his emailadres to send him all the information I have about the CS ..The D-Mannose and the msg . http://www.truthinlabeling.org/adversereactions.html is that good news Trudy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>how long does cs last??
Related question - can anyone tell me how much CS per gallon of filtered city water is needed to have it store well for an emergency supply kit? Thanks, DB -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>using a phone jack??
phone jack outputs 50 volts dc at 20 milliamps max controlled current ringer is 100 volt pulses At 04:06 PM 9/13/2006 -0700, you wrote: Phone-Col MicroGenerator, has anyone ever heard of useing a phone jack to make cs?...debbie Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.3/447 - Release Date: 9/13/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.3/447 - Release Date: 9/13/2006 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>how long does cs last??
If you make high quality CS with good distilled water, don't get it too hit, don't let it freeze, don't contaminate it, don't expose to UV light and don't have any metallic surfaces in contact with it, it can last for years. If you use bad water to make, contaminate it, and so forth, it can last as short as a few hours. Marshall Deborah Gerard wrote: > does anyone on the list know how long cs last's?...thanks deb > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>How long does it last?
EIS/CS doesn't have a "charge" [as commonly promoted as ionic charge ] after a few hours. Once all the ions find the anions made at the same time, it's over all charge neutral and particle repulsion is presented by weak Vandervals forces, not "ionic charge". Being extremely chemically active, it's not likely that many, if any, "free ions" exist after a few hours. What ions get stripped off in vivo and -become- ionically charged -again-..and what that does, is a subject for many guesses. It is, however, generally stable on the shelf for years if only pure water is present. In the presence of other substances, it's not very stable. Ions strip easily. Ode At 02:12 AM 9/13/2006 +, you wrote: Does cs loose it's charge within a month ...how long does it last? thanks deb No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.3/447 - Release Date: 9/13/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.3/447 - Release Date: 9/13/2006 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Batteries, Stills, Primitive Location ?
this conversation has left me with an idea, i have the kind of solar panel that you use to put up an electric fence, i no longer use it because the dogs run so fast that they are past the darn thing before they could get zapped, frustrating but true. Would this be a viable piece of equipment in making a still work? If so can some one give me directions on making the still? bear in mind that i am a stupid old woman and need very good directions. Jen - Original Message - From: "Jonathan B. Britten" To: Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 4:54 AM Subject: Re: CS>Batteries, Stills, Primitive Location ? Hi, Wayne, I am not the paranoid survivalist type, but I can easily foresee some very hard situations a family could be caught in, having been through some very bad storms, earthquakes, and such. This awareness informs my thinking about what sort of kit I'd like to have. I do have a non-electric distiller one can use over fire; I've never even tried it out, I just have it on hand. It seems well made, but I have something a bit more elegant in mind. What I want might be hard to build, and I'm usually third-rate at making things (though good at fixing them.) The ideal setup would use a very high-efficiency solar panel -- a durable one -- that could somehow run the entire process. It would provide enough current to heat a small quantity of water for distillation, to produce maybe a liter per day.The device would also supply the proper current-controlled voltage to run a setup something like Trem's best SilverGen (SG7), which I hope to get someday. The goal would be to make, say, over the course of eight hours of sunshine, about a liter of good quality EIS. It should be a reliable, trouble-free, hands-off operation. The idea also would be to make and store ten or more liters in advance. The solar oven designs of Dr. Steven Jones (a 9/11 Truth advocate by the way) might also be incorporated. Jones designed some really interesting things for people in Africa to use instead of firewood. The idea would also be to have a tough, reliable product that could last for years and years without maintenance. It would be small enough to carry over the shoulder or in a backpack. That's a tall order, but I think a clever and well-organized businessperson could make a decent income from it. JBB On Thursday, Sep 14, 2006, at 16:10 Asia/Tokyo, Wayne Fugitt wrote: Morning Jonathan, >>At 10:27 PM 9/13/2006, you wrote: I'd be very interested to see a kind of survival still/generator setup, at modest price. I have thought about this also. Not necessarily the still, but of course it is required, equally as important as the generator. A good solar still could make large quantities of distilled water; a solar-powered generator could turn the water into EIS. What quantity do you have in mind as "Large Quantity"? A few years ago, I had a friend in the business of building Solar Panels. One of the engineers there turned down a trailer load of blemished solar panels.Most products that are blemished are still very good. Once a battery manufacturer had a lot of blemished clear case batteries. They were blemished because the clear cases were cleaned improperly. They were not clear in places. Seems some kind of acid was used to clean them and this produced streaks and spots. I was able to buy them for the price of scrap lead. I tested all that I purchased and every single one was the most uniform batteries I have ever seen. While they made batteries for other companies with other labels, these were being manufactured for their own label. I sold one lot to a Fire Station, explaining the situation and giving them a full warranty. I never had a problem with a single battery. Back to the solar panels, I did get a few free blemished panels. One has been over in my field for a few years, still connected to a battery. Guess it would be interesting to see if it is still working. I was powering a long range photo beam which I had connected into a computer to data log deer movement. Interesting and fun for sure. Are you saying this Survival Still / Generator will be in a remote location where no power is available?The still would have a sizable power requirement, unless the Solar Still principle was used. I have a still I have never put into use that states it will deliver 3 gallons per hour. Current draw is 16 amps at 240 volts. It does need circulating water in the water jacket. It is 50 years old. Brass and Copper lasts a long time. I am sure I could find many heating elements that would work, in case that one does not. Since I got if free, I did not inspect it too closely. A well made integrated device selling for under 500 bucks might find a solid market. Still curious how you will power it? Commercial Power? If so, that simplifies many problems. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moder
Re: CS>using a phone jack??
OK Wayne! I stand corrected. I have never heard of this application before therefore it was suspect in my mind. Sorry if I came off as a know it all. My POTS experience as a lineman was many years ago. So the ringing current reads 52 volts AC?. My corded phone now says 48 volts from the line. Depending on your return connection the ringing current can and will give you a shock. There is a true story of a country woman that answered her phone when the dog barked because the phone never rang. She had attached the dogs chain to the ground rod and the current went thru the dog causing him to bark. When you go off hook all you are doing is providing a ground or return to existing voltage on the line. It makes sense that the generator would not pull as much current as a ringer until the solutions conductivity became much higher. I wonder what the REN access code would be for a generator?. Love Bob Adageyudi Staya Udanvti - Original Message - From: Wayne Fugitt To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 9:32 PM Subject: Re: CS>using a phone jack?? Evening Bob, >> 06:30 PM 9/13/2006, you wrote: I would be very leery and careful of using phone company voltage to make CS. The US 'ringing current' voltage is around 110 volts alternating DC with almost unlimited current carrying capability. It may in fact be pulsating DC but it reads nicely on an AC meter. I disagree on the "Unlimited Current". I have worked with many leased lines over the years, even the old relay type circuits, including many alarm monitoring circuits. Often the phone company would reroute circuits and the added 22 or 24 ga wire would cause my circuits to fail completely. In some cases, I had to call the phone company and try to get these circuits back into operation, as they had worked for many years. Often these were Fire Alarm monitoring circuits which must be maintained with little down time. Also if you load down the phone company lines they may shut you off permanently. I agree that is a true statement, with a few if's and conditions involved. Typically, other devices we add to our phone systems use more current than the CS generator. That is, unless someone leaves the project unattended and the current runs away in value. Since these very simple generators are totally manual, one should know how long the batch needs to run and the current draw, relative to time. In reality, all one does is make his phone line inoperative for a time. I believe the phone line goes into the "Off Hook" mode when using the CS generator. If you get a phone call or make one, ... this time must be subtracted from the batch time. On second thought, it does not go into the "Off Hook" mode or the 52 Volts would change to a much lower value, maybe 5 to 7 VDC. So, the CS generator does not load the line as much as you picking up the phone to make a call. This makes me wonder if all the ideas about a CS generator doing things to a phone line, or even attracting the phone company is justified. I have been using this type generator for a few years with zero problems. Wayne
Re: CS>Crocodile Hunter, Irwin, Killed in accident
Crocodile Hunter, Irwin, Killed in accidentLisa and Jean, I never said the guy was cruel or that he mistreated anything. All I ever saw of him what was on the Animal Planet TV show. They showed him grabbing poisonous snakes, or wrestling ugly old crocodiles, neither of which I care to see. Sure they have their place in the ecology, but I plain don`t want to watch shows about them, or sharks either. Now meerkats are cool!! That bit where he was dangling his new baby in front of a croc was a very stupid act, imho. You can worship the guy if you want, I still think he was silly and not very entertaining. I couldn`t hit the remote button fast enough to get his image off the screen. Maybe in real life off screen he was a great guy, that is fine. I just didn`t see any of that. No one will miss me when I go; do I care? Not a bit. Marshalee Marshalee, You really should open your eyes. The man was a rare jewel among humans. I guess the answer lies in how many mourn a person after they die? His friends can't be counted. How many do you think will miss you? Jean * Sorry, but I won`t miss him at all. He was annoying, and not very entertaining. It really irked me at how he made his living by irritating animals. He irritated the wrong one this time... I do feel sorry for his family. Marshalee --
CS>Solar still
A clear sheet of plastic will make a solar still. Dig a hole. put container in center, put plastic over hole (loose) hold down edges with rocks. Put small rock in center to create a funnel effect. Water will collect on bottom side of plastic and drain down and collect in container. If ground is not wet enough you can put other containers around center with water in them for source. With a piece of plastic and a container you can collect distilled water. They sell (cheap) a solar panel (small) for putting on dash of car to keep battery charged with this and a current limiter (1 Mill amp) you could make a constant current CS generator. Throw in some rechargeable batteries and you could make CS 24 hours a day. Bob
Re: CS>Batteries, Stills, Primitive Location ?
Hi, Wayne, I am not the paranoid survivalist type, but I can easily foresee some very hard situations a family could be caught in, having been through some very bad storms, earthquakes, and such. This awareness informs my thinking about what sort of kit I'd like to have. I do have a non-electric distiller one can use over fire; I've never even tried it out, I just have it on hand. It seems well made, but I have something a bit more elegant in mind. What I want might be hard to build, and I'm usually third-rate at making things (though good at fixing them.) The ideal setup would use a very high-efficiency solar panel -- a durable one -- that could somehow run the entire process. It would provide enough current to heat a small quantity of water for distillation, to produce maybe a liter per day.The device would also supply the proper current-controlled voltage to run a setup something like Trem's best SilverGen (SG7), which I hope to get someday. The goal would be to make, say, over the course of eight hours of sunshine, about a liter of good quality EIS. It should be a reliable, trouble-free, hands-off operation. The idea also would be to make and store ten or more liters in advance. The solar oven designs of Dr. Steven Jones (a 9/11 Truth advocate by the way) might also be incorporated. Jones designed some really interesting things for people in Africa to use instead of firewood. The idea would also be to have a tough, reliable product that could last for years and years without maintenance. It would be small enough to carry over the shoulder or in a backpack. That's a tall order, but I think a clever and well-organized businessperson could make a decent income from it. JBB On Thursday, Sep 14, 2006, at 16:10 Asia/Tokyo, Wayne Fugitt wrote: Morning Jonathan, >>At 10:27 PM 9/13/2006, you wrote: I'd be very interested to see a kind of survival still/generator setup, at modest price. I have thought about this also. Not necessarily the still, but of course it is required, equally as important as the generator. A good solar still could make large quantities of distilled water; a solar-powered generator could turn the water into EIS. What quantity do you have in mind as "Large Quantity"? A few years ago, I had a friend in the business of building Solar Panels. One of the engineers there turned down a trailer load of blemished solar panels.Most products that are blemished are still very good. Once a battery manufacturer had a lot of blemished clear case batteries. They were blemished because the clear cases were cleaned improperly. They were not clear in places. Seems some kind of acid was used to clean them and this produced streaks and spots. I was able to buy them for the price of scrap lead. I tested all that I purchased and every single one was the most uniform batteries I have ever seen. While they made batteries for other companies with other labels, these were being manufactured for their own label. I sold one lot to a Fire Station, explaining the situation and giving them a full warranty. I never had a problem with a single battery. Back to the solar panels, I did get a few free blemished panels. One has been over in my field for a few years, still connected to a battery. Guess it would be interesting to see if it is still working. I was powering a long range photo beam which I had connected into a computer to data log deer movement. Interesting and fun for sure. Are you saying this Survival Still / Generator will be in a remote location where no power is available?The still would have a sizable power requirement, unless the Solar Still principle was used. I have a still I have never put into use that states it will deliver 3 gallons per hour. Current draw is 16 amps at 240 volts. It does need circulating water in the water jacket. It is 50 years old. Brass and Copper lasts a long time. I am sure I could find many heating elements that would work, in case that one does not. Since I got if free, I did not inspect it too closely. A well made integrated device selling for under 500 bucks might find a solid market. Still curious how you will power it? Commercial Power? If so, that simplifies many problems. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Batteries, Stills, Primitive Location ?
Morning Jonathan, >>At 10:27 PM 9/13/2006, you wrote: I'd be very interested to see a kind of survival still/generator setup, at modest price. I have thought about this also. Not necessarily the still, but of course it is required, equally as important as the generator. A good solar still could make large quantities of distilled water; a solar-powered generator could turn the water into EIS. What quantity do you have in mind as "Large Quantity"? A few years ago, I had a friend in the business of building Solar Panels. One of the engineers there turned down a trailer load of blemished solar panels.Most products that are blemished are still very good. Once a battery manufacturer had a lot of blemished clear case batteries. They were blemished because the clear cases were cleaned improperly. They were not clear in places. Seems some kind of acid was used to clean them and this produced streaks and spots. I was able to buy them for the price of scrap lead. I tested all that I purchased and every single one was the most uniform batteries I have ever seen. While they made batteries for other companies with other labels, these were being manufactured for their own label. I sold one lot to a Fire Station, explaining the situation and giving them a full warranty. I never had a problem with a single battery. Back to the solar panels, I did get a few free blemished panels. One has been over in my field for a few years, still connected to a battery. Guess it would be interesting to see if it is still working. I was powering a long range photo beam which I had connected into a computer to data log deer movement. Interesting and fun for sure. Are you saying this Survival Still / Generator will be in a remote location where no power is available?The still would have a sizable power requirement, unless the Solar Still principle was used. I have a still I have never put into use that states it will deliver 3 gallons per hour. Current draw is 16 amps at 240 volts. It does need circulating water in the water jacket. It is 50 years old. Brass and Copper lasts a long time. I am sure I could find many heating elements that would work, in case that one does not. Since I got if free, I did not inspect it too closely. A well made integrated device selling for under 500 bucks might find a solid market. Still curious how you will power it? Commercial Power? If so, that simplifies many problems. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
