CSGeorge's sinus experience and recipe...

2008-10-04 Thread M. G. Devour
Thank you for that account and your recipe, George.

Also, that's a Neti pot you're using! grin

I'm quoting it in full and changing the subject line so one day we'll 
be able to find this again.

Be well,

Mike D.

You ask Can we get your recipe?

I got this from a  email from Harold Macdonald:  Here it is..
1  Start with 2 oz of CS 
2  Add 1/4 teaspoon of MSM
3  Add 4 drops of DMSO
4  Add 1/4 teaspoon of Xylitol   The sugar substitute 
5  Add 2 drops H2O2 35 per cent food grade. (I have 8% food grade and
use 8 drops of it)

The prevention is much better than the cure!! Stay on top of the 
situation by irrigating sinuses even when you don't think you needed. 
In the bad season where you live..where high levels of pollen,ragweed, 
mold spores ect daily is a must to stay ahead.  

I carry this with me in a 4 oz squeeze bottle as household dust, rag 
weed pollen, and moldy type dust or dust from grains..Dust from inside 
a computer. Watch out when you use a canned Air to blow out things. I 
now mow grass and weed eat the lawn, where I could not do this before. 
As soon as I come in from out side after mowing the yard I irrigate my 
sinus with the nealing pot and the above solution.  

In Harolds email to me over a year ago he stated he adjusted the MSM 
and DMSO according to the situation. I did not understand that 
statement at first. What adjusting means to me is..try more or less of 
the MSM .a little at a time to see if you nostrils can stand it. H2O2 
can be pretty hot in the nostrils, so watch out.   

I know a man that uses H2O2 right out of a bottle (the kind that 
Walmart sells for cuts) when his sinus act up. I tried once a 1/2 water 
and 1/2 H2O2 and had to hold the sink as the burning was too much. 

I know this will help you if your sinuses react to the dust and other 
things around you.  

George Knoll.../Boonpaw (a name my grand kids gave me)

 [Original Message]
 From: Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: 10/3/2008 5:26:08 PM
 Subject: Re: CSColloidal Silver/Sulphur Solution

 Can we get your recipe?

 On Oct 3, 2008, at 3:41 PM, Geoecom wrote:

  I have had sinus problems seance the early 60's
  Infections after infections, as many as 6 times in a year and
  sometimes 2 or 3 courses as one antibiotic did not do the trick.
 
  Last year I started using CS with a needling (I don't think that the
  way to spell it) pot to irradiate my sinuses. Later on some on this
  site helped me to see that adding MSM , DMSO and H202 with the CS
  would improve the over all effect.
 
  Now, over a year and 2 months I have not had to be treated for a
  sinus infection , have not had  a running nose, inflamed sinus, ect.
 
  The Lord only knows how I have suffered with the pain, loss of
  effectiveness in work .sometime in bed with feeling to bad to be up,
  tired out and depression. as sinus problems can cause mood swings
  just from a cold or hot fount coming through.
 
  I get up everyday thanking the Lord FOR answering  prayer in finding
  Cs and the silver-list.
 
  There are those who can help in the details of how, why and when ..I
  just wanted to chime in and say IT WORKS..
 
  George Knoll
  ]

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Re: CSColloidal Silver for Sinus Problems- thanks

2008-10-04 Thread Clayton Family
Thank you very much both for the recipe and sharing your experience. I 
think I will go get some of the other ingredients. I use the cs alone, 
but it kills my sense of smell after a couple of days, and stings alot, 
so I have gotten lax, and with that, my sinus condition has roared up 
again. I also get the other symptoms too, that you talked about. I 
didn't know anyone else had those, so thanks for telling us.  The neti 
pot does not work for me, as my sinuses are not built like that, they 
don't talk to each other, so what goes in has to go down the throat, or 
out the same way it goes in.


I only have regular 3% H2O2, so it will have to do, and I will see what 
else I can find of your other ingredients


Thanks a million!

Kathryn

On Oct 3, 2008, at 10:09 PM, geoe...@ipa.net wrote:



You ask Can we get your recipe?

I got this from a  email from Harold Macdonald:  Here it is..
1  Start with 2 oz of CS
2  Add 1/4 teaspoon of MSM
3  Add 4 drops of DMSO
4  Add 1/4 teaspoon of Xylitol   The sugar substitute
5  Add 2 drops H2O2 35 per cent food grade. (I have 8% food grade and 
use 8

drops of it)

The prevention is much better than the cure!!
Stay on top of the situation by irrigating sinuses even when you don't
think you needed. In the bad season where you live..where high levels 
of pollen,ragweed, mold

spores ect daily is a must to stay ahead.
I carry this with me in a 4 oz squeeze bottle as household dust, rag 
weed
pollen, and moldy type dust or dust from grains..Dust from inside a 
computer. Watch
out when you use a canned Air to blow out things. I now mow grass and 
weed eat the lawn, where
I could not do this before. As soon as I come in from out side after 
mowing the yard I irrigate my
sinus with the nealing pot and the above solution.  In Harolds email 
to me over a year ago he stated he adjusted the
MSM and DMSO according to the situation. I did not understand that 
statement at first. What adjusting means to me
is..try more or less of the MSM .a little at a time to see if you 
nostrils can stand it. H2O2 can be pretty hot in the

nostrils, so watch out.

 I know a man that uses H2O2 right out of a bottle (the kind that 
Walmart
sells for cuts) when his sinus act up. I tried once a  1/2 water and 
1/2 H2O2 and had to hold the sink as the burning was too
much.  I know this will help you if your sinuses react to the dust 
and other

things around you.

George Knoll.../Boonpaw (a name my grand kids gave me)




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Re: CSGiardia?

2008-10-04 Thread sol

Marshalee,
 That is very helpful! Thanks!
sol

Marshalee Hallett wrote:
Years ago I bought a baby cockatiel from a bird show in San Francisco. 
Just one week later she was diagnosed by a vet with giardia. I had 
already given the bird a beakful of CS before we went in. The vet said 
Well, it looks like giardia, but they aren`t moving! 3 days later, 
with nothing but CS for treatment, the bird was just fine.

Hope this helps!
Marshalee




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Re: CSblue moons revisited

2008-10-04 Thread M. G. Devour
 ... I've been refused permission to donate blood, because of my adrenal
 fatigue, so that simple way of getting rid of excess iron is out for
 the present, unless I go doctor shopping again, and I don't have much
 enthusiasm in that. Where I live there are few choices in docs. 

Dear Sol,

Is it truly that hard to find a doctor who'll write a scrip for 
phlebotomy? It's the standard treatment for hemochromatosis. Is the 
problem getting them to make the diagnosis?

Just curious.

Be well,

Mike D.

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Re: CSColloidal Silver for Sinus Problems- thanks

2008-10-04 Thread Deborah Gerard
the Xylitol I forget what that does but I know it is an active ingredient, can 
you comment on that for me?
thanks deb

--- On Sat, 10/4/08, Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com wrote:

From: Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com
Subject: Re: CSColloidal Silver for Sinus Problems- thanks
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Saturday, October 4, 2008, 9:19 AM

Thank you very much both for the recipe and sharing your experience. I 
think I will go get some of the other ingredients. I use the cs alone, 
but it kills my sense of smell after a couple of days, and stings alot, 
so I have gotten lax, and with that, my sinus condition has roared up 
again. I also get the other symptoms too, that you talked about. I 
didn't know anyone else had those, so thanks for telling us.  The neti 
pot does not work for me, as my sinuses are not built like that, they 
don't talk to each other, so what goes in has to go down the throat, or 
out the same way it goes in.

I only have regular 3% H2O2, so it will have to do, and I will see what 
else I can find of your other ingredients

Thanks a million!

Kathryn

On Oct 3, 2008, at 10:09 PM, geoe...@ipa.net wrote:


 You ask Can we get your recipe?

 I got this from a  email from Harold Macdonald:  Here it is..
 1  Start with 2 oz of CS
 2  Add 1/4 teaspoon of MSM
 3  Add 4 drops of DMSO
 4  Add 1/4 teaspoon of Xylitol   The sugar substitute
 5  Add 2 drops H2O2 35 per cent food grade. (I have 8% food grade and 
 use 8
 drops of it)

 The prevention is much better than the cure!!
 Stay on top of the situation by irrigating sinuses even when you don't
 think you needed. In the bad season where you live..where high levels 
 of pollen,ragweed, mold
 spores ect daily is a must to stay ahead.
 I carry this with me in a 4 oz squeeze bottle as household dust, rag 
 weed
 pollen, and moldy type dust or dust from grains..Dust from inside a 
 computer. Watch
 out when you use a canned Air to blow out things. I now mow grass and 
 weed eat the lawn, where
 I could not do this before. As soon as I come in from out side after 
 mowing the yard I irrigate my
 sinus with the nealing pot and the above solution.  In Harolds email 
 to me over a year ago he stated he adjusted the
 MSM and DMSO according to the situation. I did not understand that 
 statement at first. What adjusting means to me
 is..try more or less of the MSM .a little at a time to see if you 
 nostrils can stand it. H2O2 can be pretty hot in the
 nostrils, so watch out.

  I know a man that uses H2O2 right out of a bottle (the kind that 
 Walmart
 sells for cuts) when his sinus act up. I tried once a  1/2 water and 
 1/2 H2O2 and had to hold the sink as the burning was too
 much.  I know this will help you if your sinuses react to the
dust 
 and other
 things around you.

 George Knoll.../Boonpaw (a name my grand kids gave me)



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CSexcess iron storage and soy

2008-10-04 Thread Shirley Reed
  According to a site called enerex,  soy protein can block 92% of body iron
storage.  Best wishes,  pj


Re: CSColloidal Silver/Sulphur Solution

2008-10-04 Thread Sandee George
I think the word you are looking for is a Netti Pot
Regards
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Re: CSblue moons revisited

2008-10-04 Thread sol

Neville wrote:
Just a question, what do you consider was a 'heavy ingestion'?  ie; 
ppm and quantity taken?


My own homemade EIS, no additives, 12-15 ppm (depending on which gen I 
used to make it), water clear, very little TE (which means no big 
particles).  I drank between a pint and a quart a day for well over 2 years.

sol


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DMSO and H202 Re: CSGeorge's sinus experience and recipe...

2008-10-04 Thread sol
H202  converts DMSO to MSM, so you are losing at least some of the 
tissue transport properties of the DMSO in the mix. I personally never 
mix H202 and DMSO for that reason.
However in my experience DMSO and MSM together are beneficial--gets the 
MSM deeper into tissues than it can get by itself.

sol

M. G. Devour wrote:

I got this from a  email from Harold Macdonald:  Here it is..
1  Start with 2 oz of CS 
2  Add 1/4 teaspoon of MSM

3  Add 4 drops of DMSO
4  Add 1/4 teaspoon of Xylitol   The sugar substitute 
5  Add 2 drops H2O2 35 per cent food grade. (I have 8% food grade and

use 8 drops of it)
  



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Re: CSexcess iron storage and soy

2008-10-04 Thread sol
I read it blocked iron absorption, but didn't realize the blocking was 
that high. I've not been eating any soy protein at all for a couple 
years at least, since I found out how bad it is and what else it blocks.
However, at this time, the iron overload takes precedence so I'm 
thinking long and hard about soy protein, for use until the iron gets 
under control. I can't find the iron blocking info at the enerex site, 
can you send me the link?


Never fails, no matter how unhealthy something is, there is always some 
benefit you lose when you stop taking/using/eating the unhealthy stuff.

I find it very ironicsorry, couldn't resist!
sol

Shirley Reed wrote:
  According to a site called enerex,  soy protein can block 92% of 
body iron storage.  Best wishes,  pj



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Re: What went around, comes around wasCSblue moons revisited

2008-10-04 Thread cking001
Imagine that...
You have a legitimate reason for bloodletting.
And this was laughed at as a naive procedure left over from early
medical treatments.
Now you need a Dr that will do bloodletting.


Everything old is new again, and Woody Allen was right in Sleeper

Found this:

As it turns out, sodium nitrite, the chemical used to color and
preserve hot dogs and other meats, has remarkable effects on the
cardiovascular system. In fact, it appears that nitrite salts may have
a beneficial effect on all of the body's organs: heart, brain,
lungs-everywhere the blood flows. Dr. Mark Gladwin and an NIH
cardiologist, Dr. Richard Cannon III, discovered that even very small
doses of nitrate almost tripled blood flow. This translates to
prevention and/or cure of heart attacks, pulmonary hypertension,
sickle cell anemia, and strokes-and that's just the short list.

They also proved that when people exercised, nitrite levels dropped
dramatically in the muscles being exercised. This indicates that by
some mechanism, the body was using the nitrite in exercise. Oxygen
deprivation, for whatever reason, is what eventually does us in. If
this deprivation can be avoided, you will live longer and healthier.

Sodium nitrite seems to have the ability to guard your cells against
hypoxia (lack of oxygen). The researchers were amazed at the finding
because they had been taught that nitrites had little medical
relevance.

Chuck

Hearsay:
 What small children do when you mutter a dirty word.

On 10/4/2008 1:06:22 AM, sol (sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com) wrote:

 I've
 been refused permission to donate blood, because of my adrenal
 fatigue, so that simple way of getting rid of excess iron is out for the
 present, unless I go doctor shopping again, and I
 don't have much
 enthusiasm in that. Where I live there are few choices in docs.
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Re: What went around, comes around wasCSblue moons revisited

2008-10-04 Thread Deborah Gerard
YES  I can eat my hot dogs...thanks so much,
debbie

--- On Sat, 10/4/08, cking...@nycap.rr.com cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:

From: cking...@nycap.rr.com cking...@nycap.rr.com
Subject: Re: What went around, comes around wasCSblue moons revisited
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Saturday, October 4, 2008, 2:40 PM

Imagine that...
You have a legitimate reason for bloodletting.
And this was laughed at as a naive procedure left over from early
medical treatments.
Now you need a Dr that will do bloodletting.


Everything old is new again, and Woody Allen was right in Sleeper

Found this:

As it turns out, sodium nitrite, the chemical used to color and
preserve hot dogs and other meats, has remarkable effects on the
cardiovascular system. In fact, it appears that nitrite salts may have
a beneficial effect on all of the body's organs: heart, brain,
lungs-everywhere the blood flows. Dr. Mark Gladwin and an NIH
cardiologist, Dr. Richard Cannon III, discovered that even very small
doses of nitrate almost tripled blood flow. This translates to
prevention and/or cure of heart attacks, pulmonary hypertension,
sickle cell anemia, and strokes-and that's just the short list.

They also proved that when people exercised, nitrite levels dropped
dramatically in the muscles being exercised. This indicates that by
some mechanism, the body was using the nitrite in exercise. Oxygen
deprivation, for whatever reason, is what eventually does us in. If
this deprivation can be avoided, you will live longer and healthier.

Sodium nitrite seems to have the ability to guard your cells against
hypoxia (lack of oxygen). The researchers were amazed at the finding
because they had been taught that nitrites had little medical
relevance.

Chuck

Hearsay:
 What small children do when you mutter a dirty word.

On 10/4/2008 1:06:22 AM, sol (sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com) wrote:

 I've
 been refused permission to donate blood, because of my adrenal
 fatigue, so that simple way of getting rid of excess iron is out for the
 present, unless I go doctor shopping again, and I
 don't have much
 enthusiasm in that. Where I live there are few choices in docs.No virus found 
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Re: What went around, comes around wasCSblue moons revisited

2008-10-04 Thread Indi
On Sat, 04 Oct 2008 14:40:41 -0400
cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:

Would it be possible for you to post a link or other reference for that
sodium nitrite info? Forgive me for saying so, but I can't help thinking
it sounds a lot like the results of so many studies funded by big
corporations these days...
:)



 Imagine that...
 You have a legitimate reason for bloodletting.
 And this was laughed at as a naive procedure left over from early
 medical treatments.
 Now you need a Dr that will do bloodletting.
 
 
 Everything old is new again, and Woody Allen was right in Sleeper
 
 Found this:
 
 As it turns out, sodium nitrite, the chemical used to color and
 preserve hot dogs and other meats, has remarkable effects on the
 cardiovascular system. In fact, it appears that nitrite salts may have
 a beneficial effect on all of the body's organs: heart, brain,
 lungs-everywhere the blood flows. Dr. Mark Gladwin and an NIH
 cardiologist, Dr. Richard Cannon III, discovered that even very small
 doses of nitrate almost tripled blood flow. This translates to
 prevention and/or cure of heart attacks, pulmonary hypertension,
 sickle cell anemia, and strokes-and that's just the short list.
 
 They also proved that when people exercised, nitrite levels dropped
 dramatically in the muscles being exercised. This indicates that by
 some mechanism, the body was using the nitrite in exercise. Oxygen
 deprivation, for whatever reason, is what eventually does us in. If
 this deprivation can be avoided, you will live longer and healthier.
 
 Sodium nitrite seems to have the ability to guard your cells against
 hypoxia (lack of oxygen). The researchers were amazed at the finding
 because they had been taught that nitrites had little medical
 relevance.
 
   Chuck
 
 Hearsay:
  What small children do when you mutter a dirty word.
 
 On 10/4/2008 1:06:22 AM, sol (sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com) wrote:
 
  I've
  been refused permission to donate blood, because of my adrenal
  fatigue, so that simple way of getting rid of excess iron is out
  for the present, unless I go doctor shopping again, and I
  don't have much
  enthusiasm in that. Where I live there are few choices in docs.


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Re: What went around, comes around wasCSblue moons revisited

2008-10-04 Thread cking001
From Dr. Douglas'(William Campbell Douglass I.I., M.D.)
newsletter.

Do as you deem prudent, is the law of self-health...

'Tis odd though that alcohol, chocolate, coffee and others, have
reversed roles in recent years.

My unswerving mantra though is still No Sugar, and of
course,Moderation in all things except maybe sex...

Chuck
 Dilate:
 To live to your 90th birthday

On 10/4/2008 3:31:15 PM, Indi (indule...@comcast.net) wrote:
 On Sat, 04 Oct 2008 14:40:41 -0400
 cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:
 
 Would it be possible for you to post a link or other reference for that
 sodium nitrite info? Forgive me for saying so, but I
 can't help thinking
 it sounds a lot like the results of so many studies funded by big
 corporations these days...
 :)
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Re: CSblue moons revisited

2008-10-04 Thread craehow...@juno.com
After reading your post concerning the quantity and potency I felt the need to 
comment.
For almost 4 years I have been consuming a quart or more of Collodial Silver   
(15-20ppm).  The blue moons you've indicated are due in fact to your collodial 
Silver consumption.  Even before I began taking Collodial Silver I have had 
blue moons and even with my hugh intake of collodial silver I have not 
experienced any change (better or worse) in the appearance.  Are you sure these 
are directly related to your ingesting collodial silver?
connie

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Re: CSblue moons revisited

2008-10-04 Thread Neville
Thanks sol, just interested as I've been taking around 9-12ppm as a daily 
maintenance program using similar equipment, (both 27vdc and ac/dc24v mains 
power units), for going on 4 years now but not in the quantity you spoke of, 
(not that it should matter a hoot if we believe all the information 
available).  The bloke I have a video of regarding CS appeared to be taking 
similar, or more than that, for longer, and appeared not to be using pw or 
dw either.  Curious that, pity it couldn't be isolated to one or the other 
with you though, disastrous consequences for CS if it wasn't the iron.  If 
there is any credibility in CS, (and I'm convinced), I am telling myself 
that it wasn't the CS which gave that end result with the moons, if not then 
it blows the theory of CS right out of the water, and I'm not ready to 
accept that.  Sometimes one just has to go with ones own convictions and 
take the consequences, (if any), regardless otherwise it may as well all be 
chucked in the bin.


N.


- Original Message - 
From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2008 4:31 AM
Subject: Re: CSblue moons revisited



Neville wrote:
Just a question, what do you consider was a 'heavy ingestion'?  ie; ppm 
and quantity taken?


My own homemade EIS, no additives, 12-15 ppm (depending on which gen I 
used to make it), water clear, very little TE (which means no big 
particles).  I drank between a pint and a quart a day for well over 2 
years.

sol


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Re: CSblue moons revisited

2008-10-04 Thread Neville

  - Original Message - 
  From: craehow...@juno.com 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2008 8:16 AM
  Subject: Re: CSblue moons revisited
  Quote:
  [After reading your post concerning the quantity and potency I felt the need 
to comment.  For almost 4 years I have been consuming a quart or more of 
Collodial Silver   (15-20ppm).  The blue moons you've indicated are due in fact 
to your collodial Silver consumption.  Even before I began taking Collodial 
Silver I have had blue moons and even with my hugh intake of collodial silver I 
have not experienced any change (better or worse) in the appearance.  Are you 
sure these are directly related to your ingesting collodial silver?  connie]

  Thanks for that Connie.  That's why I asked the question, to invoke comment.  
Have a feeling you missed an important word...not...due in fact... etc etc. 
g

  N.

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Re: What went around, comes around wasCSblue moons revisited

2008-10-04 Thread Pat
Thirty years ago as a dietary technician at a hospital, I was forced to tell 
patients to use polyunsaturated oils, margarine instead of butter, EggBeaters 
low cholesterol egg substitute, to use artificial sweeteners and to leave off 
shrimp and shellfish.  Even then I knew all of that had to be wrong.  If anyone 
else questioned those recommendations, I never heard it.


  Pat



'Tis odd though that alcohol, chocolate, coffee and others, have
reversed roles in recent years.


  


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Re: CSUsing green food products? Get Your Blender Ready!

2008-10-04 Thread Deborah Gerard
Sash can you pm me this chart by chance? thanks deb

--- On Thu, 8/7/08, S-Max s...@emotap.com wrote:

From: S-Max s...@emotap.com
Subject: CSUsing green food products? Get Your Blender Ready!
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Thursday, August 7, 2008, 10:40 AM

Mike,
A green drink is my best meal of the day, probably my healthiest too!  Get
your blender ready!  Here's how I make them using green powder.  
 
I make a smoothie with home-made kefir (easy), yogurt, and build on it with
whey powder, green powder (Barleans), lecithin, crushed flax seeds, various
berries (strawberry, blueberry, raspberry, blackberry), acai liquid or
frozen, agave nectar, cashews, sunflower seeds, bee pollen, pure virgin
coconut oil, raw honey. . . oh heck!. . . I throw the kitchen sink at it.  
If it is a bright color, looks pretty, and smells great, and has some crunch
to it, I drink it. It ususally tastes great too.  Yummo!

You can also do a veggie smoothie using any number and combination of
veggies.  Even though apple isn't a veggies, many veggie drinks include the
apple for sweetness added.   Example:  Apple, carrot, celery, beet, green
powder, bee pollen, kale, spinach, etc.
Here's another:  spinach, cucumber, celery, ginger root, parsley, apples,
lime juice, lemon juice, barleans.  (very refreshing)

Depending on what you are trying to heal, you can adapt the choice of fruits
and veggies.  Each has a specific use for healing different organs, systems
of the body.  I'll PM you a chart. 

Get the idea?  There are a lot of smoothie cook books on the market too.
Blended smoothies are great when going raw for healing, and I don't mean
meat.
If you need some direction, don't hesitate to ask.

Hugs,
Sash
 
---Original Message--- 
 
From: M. G. Devour 
Date: 8/7/2008 3:22:29 AM 
Subject: CSOT: Using green food products? 
 
Hi folks, I have an OT question I'd like to get your input on... 
 
I've seen many advertisements for various products that consist of 
powdered greens/algae/who-knows-what, that are supposed to provide 
concentrated nutrition to overcome the emptiness of modern produce and 
the inadequacies of the common diet. One example I happen to have a 
container of is Barlean's Greens. 
 
How can we take this stuff so that it's really palatable? Can we make 
it into a veggie dip? What do you mix it with? 
 
Have you had any good results from such products? 
 
Be well, 
 
Mike D. 
 
[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] 
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Re: DMSO and H202 Re: CSGeorge's sinus experience and recipe...

2008-10-04 Thread Geoecom

Sol.
Thanks for the input.. As I mintioned below I got this from Harold MacDonald
who admited changing the mixture from time to time. I do know you can't make 
this with
CS that is less than a week old (the exact no. of days I have not determined) 
or one will
get areaction from the h2o2 and silver settles out to the bottom or turns 
black..ect.

I also fained to mintion in the first email that I have found Bromelain several 
times a
day helps with digestion/ sinus drainage/ along with N-AcetylCysteine

Glad to be able to give back to the list, as I have recieved sooo much from
you folks who have gained a vast knowledge of these things.

H202  converts DMSO to MSM, so you are losing at least some of the 
tissue transport properties of the DMSO in the mix. I personally never 
mix H202 and DMSO for that reason.
However in my experience DMSO and MSM together are beneficial--gets the 
MSM deeper into tissues than it can get by itself.
sol

M. G. Devour wrote:
 I got this from a  email from Harold Macdonald:  Here it is..
 1  Start with 2 oz of CS 
 2  Add 1/4 teaspoon of MSM
 3  Add 4 drops of DMSO
 4  Add 1/4 teaspoon of Xylitol   The sugar substitute 
 5  Add 2 drops H2O2 35 per cent food grade. (I have 8% food grade and
 use 8 drops of it)
   


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CSblue moons revisited

2008-10-04 Thread David

Hello Sol

l


If you've dramatically reduced your silver intake shouldn't the blue  
nails have grown out, or at least lightened up?



David






From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com
Date: 4 October 2008 2:36:22 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSblue moons revisited


I have posted here before about my blue (grey) fingernail moons.
For some time now, I have suspected that they are the result not  
solely of my heavy ingestion of CS for over 2 years a few years  
ago, but possibly from too much iron, some interaction of silver  
with iron overload.
My iron levels have been high for at least several years, most  
likely were high when I was using so much CS daily.
My latest blood test shows even higher iron levels, so storage iron  
(ferritin) has been increasing since 2005 at least.
Anybody know any good way to chelate iron? Other than IP-6 that is,  
which I am going to start as soon as it gets here. I'm also  
reducing oral vit C, increasing whole grains and nuts, and reducing  
vit E, and increasing B vits per this site

http://www.ironoverload.org/Diet.html
I've been refused permission to donate blood, because of my adrenal  
fatigue, so that simple way of getting rid of excess iron is out  
for the present, unless I go doctor shopping again, and I don't  
have much enthusiasm in that. Where I live there are few choices in  
docs.


I have been quite puzzled for years why some can take large amounts  
of CS for years and not get the grey nails, and a very few of us  
have gotten them. I haven't any other indication of argryia, and  
don't feel the nails are a problem at all besides being ugly. And I  
have NOT progressed from blue nails to any argryia elsewhere. I  
still use CS orally daily, though not as much except in certain  
circumstances (case of the runs or the like). In retrospect I would  
still do the heavy dosing of daily CS, even though it gave me ugly  
fingernails, because it did work for my purposes.

sol





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Re: CSblue moons revisited

2008-10-04 Thread Neville


- Original Message - 
From: David da...@alchemysa.com.au

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2008 12:22 PM
Subject: CSblue moons revisited


Quote:
[Hello Sol If you've dramatically reduced your silver intake shouldn't the 
blue nails have grown out, or at least lightened up?  David]


Hi David, till you here from sol, I don't know if it has been established 
that CS was the cause.  Personally, I don't believe it was, and Connie's 
statement adds to my personal conviction that it wasn't.  If this could ever 
be proved not to be the case then the whole idea of EICS, as we know it, has 
just exploded in everyones face's and can only add fuel to the fires of the 
sceptics, knockers and non-believers of CS.  If I thought for one second 
that CS was the cause of sol's moons there would be no further point in my 
continuation of ingestion of CS.  To my knowledge I am pretty healthy and I 
show no signs of anything untoward by my daily ingestion of CS over nearly 4 
years, (a further 3 on and off prior to that).  As I said earlier I only 
take a small maintenance amount, but even so, if all our researched 
material, combined with personal usages noted by myself and others are to be 
held up as credible and informative, (providing we are following the correct 
protocols of course),  then it shouldn't matter a hoot how much is ingested, 
after all it's not like anyone is drinking gallons of the stuff.  I am 
holding on to that conviction till  evidence can be provided to the 
contrary.  Doubts are the seeds of dis-trust, which grow into dis-belief. 
That's how I look at it.


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Re: What went around, comes around wasCSblue moons revisited

2008-10-04 Thread sol
Great timing Chuck! I just recently found a hotdog I can actually stand 
to eat.

sol
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Re: CSblue moons revisited

2008-10-04 Thread sol

Mike,
 The problem is I have adrenal insufficiency and my PA wants me to see 
an endo to do the permission, and I don't want to, because it is an all 
day trip there and back.  It would cost hundreds of dollars, too,  and I 
might still not get permission or the phlebotomy.
  If not for the AI, I could donate without a diagnosis or permission 
via the local blood bank.  I should have kept my big mouth shut when I 
went to donate blood to the blood bank, but then I thought of the person 
or persons who might receive my blood, and I felt it unethical to lie or 
leave out meds I take.  Because of the AI they said I need a note from 
my doctor, I guess they are afraid I will go into an adrenal crisis or 
something, they didn't seem to be concerned about my taking 
hydrocortisone,  just their liability. I didn't for a moment consider my 
doctor might refuse to give me the permission.
 My husband suggests I try the blood bank here again, it has been many 
months, and tell them I don't need a note, I'll sign a release.

LOL,
sol
Is it truly that hard to find a doctor who'll write a scrip for 
phlebotomy? It's the standard treatment for hemochromatosis. Is the 
problem getting them to make the diagnosis?


Just curious.

  




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Re: CSblue moons revisited

2008-10-04 Thread sol

Connie,
 No, I'm no longer sure.  At one time I did feel sure it was due to CS, 
but, now with the iron thing going on I have lost that certainty. I have 
not ingested that amount of CS for several years I think,  but the blue 
moons have only lightened somewhat. They do get darker and then lighter, 
sometimes in apparent conjunction with my CS intake, but I'm not sure 
even that is always the case.  I've taken selenium, etc as per the 
argryia protocol but not religiously, or even very regularly. My best 
guess is there may be some reaction between silver and high iron in the 
body? Or possibly this is due to the high iron only?
 What is your iron status, do you know? Is your ferritin too high? 
Hemoglobin? Hematocrit? transferritin saturation, and UIBC? Have you had 
any of those tests recently? Any liver enzymes elevated? Id sure like 
to get some basis for comparison between myself and someone who has not 
acquired grey nail moons. I know I'm not the only person to get the grey 
nail moons, but I don't know if anyone else who has them also has too 
much iron. Maybe they do not know their iron status themselves. So far 
I'm just speculating.

thanks a lot for your thought provoking reply,
sol

craehow...@juno.com wrote:


After reading your post concerning the quantity and potency I felt the 
need to comment.


For almost 4 years I have been consuming a quart or more of Collodial 
Silver   (15-20ppm).  The blue moons you've indicated are due in fact 
to your collodial Silver consumption.  Even before I began taking 
Collodial Silver I have had blue moons and even with my hugh intake of 
collodial silver I have not experienced any change (better or worse) 
in the appearance.  Are you sure these are directly related to your 
ingesting collodial silver?


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Re: CSblue moons revisited

2008-10-04 Thread sol

David wrote:
If you've dramatically reduced your silver intake shouldn't the blue 
nails have grown out, or at least lightened up?

You'd think so. But see my reply to Connie.
sol






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Re: CSblue moons revisited

2008-10-04 Thread sol

Neville wrote:
 If I thought for one second that CS was the cause of sol's moons 
there would be no further point in my continuation of ingestion of CS.  
Why do you say that? Silver accumulation in the skin, nail beds, or 
wherever has NOTHING to do with its effectiveness in killing pathogens 
so far as I know.

sol


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