Re: CS>No fingernail moons ? Why ?

[Wayne Fugitt]

Thanks, G Murray,

I found virtually the same information.

>> At 10:24 PM 4/4/2009, you wrote:
/Fingernail condition has been used for 
thousands of years to accurately diagnose 
ailments and maladies in the body. Chinese physicians mastered this practice./

One article listed two things that had to be combined to produce
one specific result.

Although I will discuss later in this article 
what nutrients may help with actual nail 
problems you should always seek professional 
help if any of the below changes are observed on the nail./

  No matter the nutrient,  I have used all of them, at one time or the other.

Notice the word,   "may" in each of the statements,
A conditional, and possible statement.


/• Thick nails may indicate a vascular problem./


Many, many years back, when I would plan a vitamin program for others,
I would tell them,

   "only you are the judge",

If you feel better, you make the decision, if not, you make the decision.

People would call me from several states away, and I would talk to them,
and offer a little bit of advice.

I built my image and reputation, at the national Service Managers
convention.  How did I do that ?
Simple, ..
NOT ONE every beat me Arm Wrestling, and
NOT ONE ever beat me playing Chess.

When I beat the National Service Manager arm wrestling,
everyone opened their mouth.
They thought I should have let him beat me.
Maybe I should, ... but I could get another job, .. no doubt.

That was the good old days,  one could buy 1 month or 2 months
of vitamins and minerals for 20 to  40 dollars.

Good information was hard to find back then.  Much has changed.
I swiped one book from the Jail,
in Marin County, CA. ( San Rafael )  printed in 1927.
Awesome  was the book,and
Awesome was the fool that swiped the book.

I read every book that Adelle Davis published, 
and would buy them by the dozen, and give them away.


I have always been nice and kind,
most of the time.
   but be careful,
  when you tread on a redneck.

He will loose his mind,
 and no longer,
  be nice and kind.

I have often said,
 I feel better when I am sick,
  than most people do,
  when they are well.

I drive better when I am drunk,
 than most
  when they are sober.

Now,  the sad truth,
 When ones gets older,
 everything changes.

Even the dumb, Dumb, politicians know
how to spell,   "Change"
 I will not
call their ( his ) name.

 You can guess,   (  3 guesses )

Sorry I got side tracked,
  that must be
   another ailment.
  caused by NO moons,
 a Full Moon,
  or a missing Moon,

Heaven only knows.

Wayne,  RNX

When you are, the judge, the jury, and the executioner,
   you must practice
   your power
  with discretion.





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Re: CS>No fingernail moons ? Does any truth exist ?

[Wayne Fugitt]

At 10:31 PM 4/4/2009, you wrote:
Lab ranges cover 96% of the population, and say nothing about the 
range of optimal values. I look for any info I can find on optimal 
values for whatever test I am looking at.



Dr. Whitaker published a set of booklets, a number of years ago,
with ranges he suggested, and supporting evidence.

Yes, I have them, .. in my pantry.

Wayne

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Re: CS>cheap water alkalizer and acidizer

[Gaiacita]

I'll have to ask my friend what she puts in.  

So, if you are putting in a salt solution, and Ode says salt makes the
miracle water--I wonder if the Kangen water and the miracle water are the
same things?

Samala,
Renee

---Original Message---
 
Salt is not added per se, it is a salt solution (liquid) that comes with the 
machine and only that particular solution can be used.  The salt solution is 
added to the total water content coming through the machine.  It then splits 
the water into two separate hoses, one with the high pH and the other with the 
low pH.  So the water from each hose is coming out simultaneously.  

Re: CS>No fingernail moons ? Does any truth exist ?

[Gaiacita]

Have no idea what lack of moons mean, but I do know that I use to have large
moons on all my fingers.  Now the only large moons are on both my thumbs,
and very small moons on 2 fingers on one hand and 1 very small moon on 1
finger on the other hand.  

I also use to have horizontal ridges on my thumb nails.  Now they are gone
and I have vertical ridges there, plus vertical on both little finger nails
and 3 other fingers.

I think finger nail and tongue analysis is interesting.

Samala,
Renee

---Original Message---
 
Will someone else measure theirs for comparison.
 

Re: CS>No fingernail moons ? Does any truth exist ?

[sol]

Do take it under advisement, also take blood test results with a grain 
of salt. Just because someone tells you your results are "normal" or 
"fine" doesn't make it true.
Lab ranges cover 96% of the population, and say nothing about the range 
of optimal values. I look for any info I can find on optimal values for 
whatever test I am looking at.
My statement was based not only on articles but mostly on anecdotal 
reports of thyroid patients saying their fingernail moons came back when 
they got their thyroid levels to optimal, based not only on their labs 
but on symptoms.

sol

Wayne Fugitt wrote:

Evening Sol,

At 07:51 PM 4/4/2009, you wrote:

Thyroid problems.


Read it again, and study more.
That is not what I have read.
More if, buts, and, ..  ands exist.

No abnormalities have ever shown to support  that on any of my
reports.



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Re: CS>No fingernail moons ? Why ?

[G Murray]

/Fingernail condition has been used for thousands of years to accurately 
diagnose ailments and maladies in the body. Chinese physicians mastered 
this practice./


/Fingernail changes may signify a number of disorders elsewhere in the 
body. These changes may indicate illness even before the rest of the 
body shows any signs. Although I will discuss later in this article what 
nutrients may help with actual nail problems you should always seek 
professional help if any of the below changes are observed on the nail./


/• Thick nails may indicate a vascular problem./

/• Ridges running lengthwise may indicate a kidney disorders./

/• White moon area turning red may indicate heart problems. If it turns 
dark blue then lung problems may exist./


/• Brittle nails may indicate possible iron deficiency./

/• Yellow nails may indicate internal disorders./

/• White nails may indicate possible liver or kidney disorders./

/• Nail beading may be a sign of rheumatoid arthritis./

/• Nails that chip, peel, crack, or break easily show a nutritional 
deficiency./


*• Brittle, soft, shiny nails with no moon may indicate an overactive 
thyroid.*


*• Nails separated form the nail bed may indicate a thyroid problem.*

/• White lines across the nail may indicate a liver disease./

/• Red, inflamed looking skin at the bottom of the nail may indicate a 
connective tissue disorder./


/• Ridges across the nail may be a sign of the flu./

/• Nails curving downward at the ends may indicate heart, liver, or 
respiratory problems./


/• White lines show possible heart disease, or arsenic poisoning./

/• Unusually wide, square nails can suggest a hormonal disorder./

/These are a sampling of nails conditions that may point to serious 
health problems. These are not intended to serve a diagnostic tool. If 
in doubt seek the diagnosis of a physician./


/Don’t wait if you suspect a problem. Seek help. Also consider looking 
at your eating habits, environment, and general well-being. Consider 
taking extra vitamin supplementation to balance out your system./


/Chuck Lunsford is the owner and developer of EveryDayHealthmatters.com. 
He offers advice on how to get your health in order and start feeling 
great everyday. Visit his website and learn how to alleviate nail 
disorders with the right nutritional food supplement vitamins 
./


/Article Source: http://EzineArticles.com/?expert=Chuck_Lunsford 
/


http://ezinearticles.com/?Fingernail-Disorders---Paying-Attention-To-Your-Nails-Health-Might-Save-Yours.&id=539095

sol wrote:


I do not have any fingernail moons,

No, not one.

What is wrong with me ?

Thyroid problems.
sol



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Re: CS>No fingernail moons ? Why ?

[Dan Nave]

Evening Wayne,

Do you have a belly-button?

Dan

On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 4:46 AM, Wayne Fugitt  wrote:
> Morning Marshall,
>
>   I do not have any fingernail moons,
>
>   No, not one.
>
>   What is wrong with me  ?
>
>   Did my intercellular communications, ..
>        blow a fuse,
>            or maybe
>
>     My brain did,  or maybe both ?
>
>     I figured you knew, for sure.
>
>      Wayne
>
>
> __
> The World Tomorrow
>
> Events Today and Events Yesterday
>
> Gaze into your crystal ball.  Open your eyes very wide.  Do you see anything
> ?
>
> Give me one Firm Place to Stand, and I can Move the World !
> ==
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CS>No fingernail moons ? Does any truth exist ?

[Wayne Fugitt]

Evening Sol,

At 07:51 PM 4/4/2009, you wrote:

Thyroid problems.


Read it again, and study more.
That is not what I have read.
More if, buts, and, ..  ands exist.

No abnormalities have ever shown to support  that on any of my
reports.

Growth rate is normal.
Thick and Strong,
I break about one nail per year,
   When the screw is too tight.

I actually use my fingernails as screwdrivers.

Lots of conflicting information exist,
and about 90 to 95 % of it is in fact  "Mainstream".
Confusion, Confusion.

Just measured all ten fingers with a precision caliper.
.030  and slightly more on most,
except
the thumbs.   .040 and a little more,
that is with all the dirt cleaned off.

Will someone else measure theirs for comparison.

or shall we lift a weight to see how much, before they break ?

I continue to be Amazed
 by the fact,
that if you line up,  100 alternative people.

95 to 99 % will Quote and Quote,

 Mainstream Articles ?

Where does the truth exist ?
   If any truth exists at all.

My blood reports are better than any of my children, 20 to 25 years younger.

And I even, suspect at times, the Blood Reports are in fact a Fraud,
as the normals are based on no scientific fact at all.

Yes, Sol, I will consider what you said, and research more,
and get another blood report.

Yes, I will take your statement  "Under Advisement",
and a know a few scientist that will advise me of the truth.
Not mainstream doctors, and not mainstream articles.

Wayne
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Re: CS>No fingernail moons ? Why ?

[Deborah Gerard]

Here is a little info
 




no white moon

pituitary
 

no moons
underactive thyroid, genetics 

overly large moons 
overactive thyroid, genetics, trauma from habit

blue moons
circulation, heart or respiratory disorders, lupus, emphysema


Sources:   

--- On Sat, 4/4/09, sol  wrote:

From: sol 
Subject: Re: CS>No fingernail moons ? Why ?
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Saturday, April 4, 2009, 8:51 PM

>
>I do not have any fingernail moons,
>
>No, not one.
>
>What is wrong with me  ?
Thyroid problems.
sol


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Re: CS>No fingernail moons ? Why ?

[sol]

   I do not have any fingernail moons,

   No, not one.

   What is wrong with me  ?

Thyroid problems.
sol


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Re: CS>miracle water

[mborgert]

Hi Ode,
 
I am using Prill beads and have been for a year or more.  It does take the chlorine smell out and I just checked the ph, it was 8.0.
Question, is there any side effects to the prill beads???
I have read every thing I can about them before I started and could not find any side effects.
Thank You in advance.
Mary
-- Original message from Ode Coyote : -- > > > I used a DC CS generator with an electrode in each of two containers of > distilled water, with a copper wire hung over the lips to connect them > electrically while keeping the voltage down below where colloidal copper is > made..20 some volts? > One container made OH [-] rich "ionized water", the other... Ionic Ag [+] > Anion free silver water...instead of the normal Hydronium rich H3O [+] > "acid water". > I could see possible flaws in the idea, but did it anyhow, just for grins > and giggles > I don't know "why" that worked..it may not have shoulda worked...but it > apparently did. > > Normally, they connect the two containers electrically with RO water > filter material or shammy cloth and use platinum or stainless steel electrodes. > That takes a bit of creative plumbing, but a flexible polyvinyl hose > packed with shammy cloth, soaked thoroughly with water to make a static > syphon and hug over the sides to connect two glasses [or mud buckets] might > do itthat, some stainless welding rod or plate for electrodes and a > 12 volt car battery for power. > > If the setup draws current... you got it. > I'd be using pretty pure water. Reverse Osmosis water should do well. > > Under the heading "Make something mundane into a miracle and sell it for 10 > grand". > > Add salt to the water and you'll likely have a miracle cleanser water > machine with Hypochlorus acid in one bucket and Lye [Sodium Hydroxide] > water in the other. > Making the two in the same container is a no brainer..two electrodes, > salt water and a battery..short shelf life as they'll want to neutralize > each other and turn back into salt water as soon as you turn the power off, > pretty fast. > > If you have enough junk around, it's FREE. > > ..mind the hydrogen and oxygen gasses and don't blow yerself up. > [Ventilate..Duh? ] > > Ode > > > At 10:07 AM 4/3/2009 -0700, you wrote: > > This sounds like maybe the Kangen water??? Anybody know how to make > > a simple unit that will make and separate the alkaline and acidic water?? > pj > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > > The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > 

Re: CS>cheap water alkalizer and acidizer

[Sharlene Miyamura]

Renee,

I've never heard of adding coral calcium into the machine!  They are very
strict about adding anything into the machine.  Was it the Enagic machine?
It may be a competitor.  Salt is not added per se, it is a salt solution
(liquid) that comes with the machine and only that particular solution can
be used.  The salt solution is added to the total water content coming
through the machine.  It then splits the water into two separate hoses, one
with the high pH and the other with the low pH.  So the water from each hose
is coming out simultaneously.  You can collect one or the other water
whichever you're planning to use or both if you like in separate containers.
 I use the acid water for disinfecting wounds, countertops and the high
alkaline water to degrease appliances, floors or take pesticides off of my
fruits & veggies.  The alkaline water lasts about 3-7 days and the acid
water when placed in a black spray bottle lasts about the same or longer.
It will start degrading as far as pH is concerned a little each day.

Sharlene

On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 12:00 PM, Gaiacita  wrote:

>Hi Sharlene.  Yes, the Kangen has titanium plates.  I went to a demo on
> it.  They said they put a bit of coral calcium into the machine.  You add
> salt.  Now I'm confused.  :-)  I wonder if the machine uses the additives to
> both the acid and alkaline sections, or just sends it over to one of them.
>
> Samala,
> Renee
>
>  *---Original Message---*
>
>
> I have a Kangen water filtration system.  To make the low pH water
> (2.5) and the high alkaline water (11.5) simultaneously (each one coming out
> of their own hose), we add a salt water solution to the machine.  The salt
> may be used to increase the electrolysis or the current.  Sorry, I'm not a
> techie. To make the inbetween ranges of water on the pH scale we don't use
> the salt solution.
>
>
>

Re: CS>cheap water alkalizer and acidizer

[Gaiacita]

Hi Sharlene.  Yes, the Kangen has titanium plates.  I went to a demo on it. 
They said they put a bit of coral calcium into the machine.  You add salt. 
Now I'm confused.  :-)  I wonder if the machine uses the additives to both
the acid and alkaline sections, or just sends it over to one of them.  

Samala,
Renee

---Original Message---

 
I have a Kangen water filtration system.  To make the low pH water (2.5) and
the high alkaline water (11.5) simultaneously (each one coming out of their
own hose), we add a salt water solution to the machine.  The salt may be
used to increase the electrolysis or the current.  Sorry, I'm not a techie.
To make the inbetween ranges of water on the pH scale we don't use the salt
solution.
 

Re: CS>cheap water alkalizer and acidizer

[Sharlene Miyamura]

Renee,

I have a Kangen water filtration system.  To make the low pH water (2.5) and
the high alkaline water (11.5) simultaneously (each one coming out of their
own hose), we add a salt water solution to the machine.  The salt may be
used to increase the electrolysis or the current.  Sorry, I'm not a techie.
To make the inbetween ranges of water on the pH scale we don't use the salt
solution.

I think it has platinum coated titanium plates if that makes any
difference.

Sharlene

On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 8:59 AM, Gaiacita  wrote:

>Except for the titanium plates, you mean Chuck. :-)  I actually have a
> couple wall warts here, but no titanium.  Nor stainless steel plates--though
> that site says stainless is not recommended.  Jason Eaton said that car
> chamois is probably what is used as the membrane between the water
> containers.  We spoke of this before, on his list, and he felt a drawback
> would be the plastic containers this guy uses.  I suggested glass
> containers.  Easily drilled if careful, and a pvc pipe between them, chamois
> between and titanium plates.
>
> But this would just give acid and alkaline water.  That's why I don't see
> the difference between this and the miracle water, except perhaps that it is
> made with salt water?  And in both sides or just one side?
>
> And what is it about salt that would make this water so much better than
> "plain" acid/alkaline water?
>
> Samala,
> Renee
>
> *---Original Message---*
>
> Kinda like what we've been describing, only with wicks between the
> containers.
> $150 for pretty much what you can find around the house, except for
> the wall wart suppy, maybe.
>
>
>

Re: CS>cheap water alkalizer and acidizer

[Gaiacita]

Except for the titanium plates, you mean Chuck. :-)  I actually have a
couple wall warts here, but no titanium.  Nor stainless steel plates--though
that site says stainless is not recommended.  Jason Eaton said that car
chamois is probably what is used as the membrane between the water
containers.  We spoke of this before, on his list, and he felt a drawback
would be the plastic containers this guy uses.  I suggested glass containers
  Easily drilled if careful, and a pvc pipe between them, chamois between
and titanium plates. 

But this would just give acid and alkaline water.  That's why I don't see
the difference between this and the miracle water, except perhaps that it is
made with salt water?  And in both sides or just one side?

And what is it about salt that would make this water so much better than 
plain" acid/alkaline water?

Samala,
Renee

---Original Message---
 
Kinda like what we've been describing, only with wicks between the
containers.
$150 for pretty much what you can find around the house, except for
the wall wart suppy, maybe.
 
   

Re: CS>cheap water alkalizer and acidizer

[cking001]

Yeah,
Kinda like what we've been describing, only with wicks between the
containers.
$150 for pretty much what you can find around the house, except for
the wall wart suppy, maybe.

Chuck

Esplanade (v.), to attempt an explanation while drunk.

On 4/4/2009 1:44:08 PM, Shirley Reed (pj20fl...@gmail.com) wrote:
>    This site was sent to me and since I can't get the link to copy, the site 
> is www.Hiddencures.com    Thought I would try to get you techies to venture 
> an opinion??    tia  pj
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Re: CS>Microvave dist. H2O

[Dee Fitzpatrick]

Great news about your friend.  I've had another bout and it has taken about
five weeks to cure with EIS.  I have put it down to being severely run down
this time though, as it cured in three weeks before.  Dee 

---Original Message---
 
From: zzekel...@aol.com
Date: 04/04/09 18:18:20
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Microvave dist. H2O
 
Hi all, Quick ?? Is there any negative effect on distilled water for use
with the generator if the water is heated in a microwave before brewing ? I
have found that warm water brews faster and I keep my distilled water in the
fridg for drinking. {my generator is 999 silver wires  (4) 9 volt batteries
& a meter with a 33K resistor between the probes. } Thanks, Lois
   Also wanted to let you know my friend has been able to stop shingles.  She 
had a bad bout and went to the Dr. the med. he gave her took about 4 weeks to 
take care of them.  They came back with a vengeance. I told her about EIS and 
she tried it---Drank 1-2 oz's. in the morning---1 swig at night &-put it on 
topically once each day . Within 3 days they were gone and have not returned... 
{ After that she asked me to get her a generator}<>

CS>cheap water alkalizer and acidizer

[Shirley Reed]

   This site was sent to me and since I can't get the link to copy, the site
is www.Hiddencures.comThought I would try to get you techies to venture
an opinion??tia  pj

CS>Microvave dist. H2O

[ZZekelink]

Hi all, Quick ?? Is there any negative effect  on distilled water for use 
with the generator if the water is heated in a  microwave before brewing ? I 
have 
found that warm water brews faster and I keep  my distilled water in the 
fridg for drinking. {my generator  is 999 silver wires  (4) 9 volt batteries & 
a 
meter with a  33K resistor between the probes. } Thanks, Lois
   Also wanted to let you know my  friend has been able to stop shingles.  
She had a bad bout and went to the  Dr. the med. he gave her took about 4 weeks 
to take care of them.  They  came back with a vengeance. I told her about EIS 
and she tried it---Drank 1-2  oz's. in the morning---1 swig at night &-put it 
on topically once each day .  Within 3 days they were gone and have not 
returned... { After that she asked me  to get her a generator}
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Re: CS>Magic Miracle Water

[Gaiacita]

So Ode, I'm still not understanding the difference between the miracle water
and ionized (acid/alkaline) water.  Both seem to be made by a single device
with 2 electrodes, each going into a separate container, with some sort of 
gateway" between them.  

About the only difference I see is that the miracle water uses salt whereas
the ionized water (Kangen type) uses some calcium minerals.

Both running off electricity.  Is it a difference in voltage?  One thought
was that stainless steel electrodes were used--you thought with the miracle
water.  The Kangen type uses titanium.   Can you explain the difference
between what makes miracle water and what makes acid & alkaline water?  I
guess I'm just being dense, but I don't understand by what has been
explained already.  Is it just because the miracle water uses salt?  Is the
salt in both water containers?  

And I certainly don't get the zapper connection.  sigh

Samala,
Renee

---Original Message---
 
 
  You talkin magic miracle water or Zapper here?
...mebbe both.
  Hummm
 
  

CS>Magic Miracle Water Puppy

[sms]

Oops! I thought I checked my spelling. That should be for; not fir. 
Scuse please! 
Sash 
 
---Original Message--- 
 
From: sms 
Date: 4/4/2009 7:38:31 AM 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: CS>Magic Miracle Water Puppy 
 
Ode, 
In answer to your question - I'm talkin' magic miracle water maker. 
 
Since you have the Silver Puppy, which has gained world-wide primo status 
and 'pupularity', I entered my vote fir and nomination for your miracle 
water maker; The Water Puppy. 
 
I like handy devices and would be the first in line to buy it! I like 
naturally clean; both inside and out 
 
Sash


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CS>Magic Miracle Water Puppy

[sms]

Ode,
In answer to your question - I'm talkin' magic miracle water maker.   

Since you have the Silver Puppy, which has gained world-wide primo status
and 'pupularity', I entered my vote fir and nomination for your miracle
water maker; The Water Puppy.

I like handy devices and would be the first in line to buy it!  I like
naturally clean; both inside and out

Sash


---Original Message---
 
From: Ode Coyote
Date: 4/4/2009 6:57:06 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Magic Miracle Water
 
 
  You talkin magic miracle water or Zapper here?
...mebbe both.
  Hummm
 
  How much Miracle Water does one actually need, seeing as it has a very
short shelf life.
  A 409 pumper full every few days "on call" maybe?
 
  Play time coming up.
 
Ode

Re: CS>turning blue

[Ode Coyote]

 Waddaya mean "every time" ?
She un-blues when she doesn't ?
How odd!

Ode

At 05:05 PM 9/30/2009 -0400, you wrote:

I have a friend who likes to "overdue" everything, thinking more is better.
every time she takes large amts of CS - over 10ppm
her skin turns a greyish blue
sometimes less is in fact better
E

- Original Message -
From: Marshall Dudley
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: CS>turning blue

Look at your fingernail moons.  If they are pink or white, then it is
highly unlikely any blue could be from silver, since it will always show
up there first as far as I know.

Marshall

Dee Fitzpatrick wrote:
> Hi Reid, I will be very interested to know peoples response to your
> post.  Can you tell me how much you drink, and how often?  Thanks in
> advance.  Dee
>
> /---Original Message---/
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> /*From:*/ Windows Live Team 
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> /*Date:*/ 03/04/2009 19:49:43
> /*To:*/ silver-list@eskimo.com 


> /*Subject:*/ CS>turning blue
>
> Hi Everybody,
>
> I don't look blue to myself, but some people tell me that I look blue
> to them, and this is becoming annoying.  I do make the 10 to 20ppm,
> ionic silver, and drink this, however I have little doubt that this
> would not cause the blueness.  After all, it's in solution, and the
> body eliminates this.  I'd appreciate any observations.
>
>
>
>
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Re: CS>turning blue

[Ode Coyote]

 20 PPM silver water just isn't all that much silver, but you have had 
exposure to some very high concentrations  for quite a while.
 Even 20 PPM ionic silver is retained "some", but to reach a threshold 
required to turn blue would take using it *instead* of water for longer 
than the average [normal] person lives.
 If nitrate blackened skin had to peal off, could be that a lot went 
*through* the skin and built up to threshold 'behind your back" so to speak.
 If Mexicans are using concentrated silver and don't know how strong they 
are making their treated water..and aren't turning blue..could have 
something to do with a lot of Cilantro in Mexican food?  ...and maybe 
adequate Selenium in the soil, making that available in the food.


I'd get my skin analyzed to see if its actually silver..hair analysis could 
give you a time map to help nail down a source to avoid.


It is said that the chelation therapy is lots of Cilantro, Selenium 
supplementation and Vitamin E


 Rosemary Jacobs is splotchy due to failed attempts to mechanically and 
chemically remove the coloration.


If you don't look blue to you..maybe people are jerking your chain?  "WHO 
sez? "   [Do they know each other?]
 If you are quite fair skinned, brown skinned people might think you look 
sorta blue.
 Some lighting systems put out a lot of blue light that make blondies look 
like zombies.


ode [a blondie]


At 01:49 PM 4/3/2009 -0500, you wrote:

Hi Everybody,

I don't look blue to myself, but some people tell me that I look blue to 
them, and this is becoming annoying.  I do make the 10 to 20ppm, ionic 
silver, and drink this, however I have little doubt that this would not 
cause the blueness.  After all, it's in solution, and the body eliminates 
this.  I'd appreciate any observations.


I'm still not convinced that this couldn' just as well be redness, and 
that people think it to be blue because they've heard about argyria.  Or I 
suppose that it could be cyanosis, which apparently has something to do 
with de-oxygenated blood, close to the surface of the skin.


If I am turning blue, I'm supposing that this could also have been caused 
by a couple of factors.  1.  For about ten years I've been teaching 
workers in potteries, around the world, to manufacture their own silver 
nitrate, using very pure silver and nitric acid.


This makes AgNO3 very inexpensive, by comparison to the commercial 
product, but clearly requires safety precautions.  In the beginning, 
especially, I was making occasional contact with the silver salts, turning 
my skin black.  After five days or so, the blackness would peel off.


2.  Three or four times a year I travel to the so-called third world, and 
put drops of Mexican-made, concentrated CS into drinking water, to help 
with viruses, Montezuma's revenge, etc.


A friend has told me that the coloration is sometimes more noticeable and 
sometimes less so.  I understand that there is chelation, to make such 
color go away, but I know little about this.  And doesn't argyria tend to 
make the coloration splotchy?  Any thoughts anyone?


Reid



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Re: CS>miracle water

[Ode Coyote]

  I used a DC CS generator with an electrode in each of two containers of 
distilled water, with a copper wire hung over the lips to connect them 
electrically while keeping the voltage down below where colloidal copper is 
made..20 some volts?
 One container made OH [-] rich "ionized water", the other... Ionic Ag [+] 
Anion free silver water...instead of the normal Hydronium rich  H3O [+] 
"acid water".
 I could see possible flaws in the idea, but did it anyhow, just for grins 
and giggles
  I don't know "why" that worked..it may not have shoulda worked...but it 
apparently did.


 Normally, they connect the two containers electrically with RO water 
filter material or shammy cloth and use platinum or stainless steel electrodes.
 That takes a bit of creative plumbing, but a flexible polyvinyl hose 
packed with shammy cloth, soaked thoroughly with water to make a static 
syphon and hug over the sides to connect two glasses [or mud buckets] might 
do itthat, some stainless welding rod or plate for electrodes and a 
12  volt car battery for power.


If the setup draws current... you got it.
I'd be using pretty pure water.  Reverse Osmosis water should do well.

Under the heading "Make something mundane into a miracle and sell it for 10 
grand".


 Add salt to the water and you'll likely have a miracle cleanser water 
machine with Hypochlorus acid in one bucket and Lye [Sodium Hydroxide] 
water in the other.
 Making the two in the same container is a no brainer..two electrodes, 
salt water and a battery..short shelf life as they'll want to neutralize 
each other and turn back into salt water as soon as you turn the power off, 
pretty fast.


If you have enough junk around, it's FREE.

..mind the hydrogen and oxygen gasses and don't blow yerself up. 
[Ventilate..Duh? ]


Ode


At 10:07 AM 4/3/2009 -0700, you wrote:
   This sounds like maybe the Kangen water???   Anybody know how to make 
a simple unit that will make and separate the alkaline and acidic water??pj



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Re: CS>Magic Miracle Water

[Ode Coyote]

 You talkin magic miracle water or Zapper here?
..mebbe both.
 Hummm

 How much Miracle Water does one actually need, seeing as it has a very 
short shelf life.

 A 409 pumper full every few days "on call" maybe?

 Play time coming up.

Ode



At 09:02 AM 4/3/2009 -0800, you wrote:

So Ode -
This really does sound like a leap into Green!  This seems to be a 
'Necessity' for home and health use.


Do I hear the words like - The Water Puppy?  Or, am I imagining them?  I 
hope the former.

Sash


---Original Message---

From: Ode Coyote
Date: 04/03/09 05:59:29
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Sorta Like like godzilla?

"help clear microbes, spirochetes, cyst form, L-form,
and all others, including bacteria, virus, fungus, and parasites"...is what
Hulda Clark sez about blood electrification and she might be right, but for
the wrong reasons.




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RE: CS>No fingernail moons ? Why ?

[Thora Rasmussen]

Try looking at your toes for moons.

Thora 

-Original Message-
From: Wayne Fugitt [mailto:cwa...@netdoor.com] 
Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 2:47 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>No fingernail moons ? Why ?

Morning Marshall,

At 03:54 PM 4/3/2009, you wrote:
>Look at your fingernail moons.  If they are pink or white, then it is 
>highly unlikely any blue could be from silver, since it will always 
>show up there first as far as I know.

I do not have any fingernail moons,

No, not one.

What is wrong with me  ?

Did my intercellular communications, ..
 blow a fuse,
 or maybe

  My brain did,  or maybe both ?

  I figured you knew, for sure.

   Wayne


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CS>No fingernail moons ? Why ?

[Wayne Fugitt]

Morning Marshall,

At 03:54 PM 4/3/2009, you wrote:
Look at your fingernail moons.  If they are pink or white, then it 
is highly unlikely any blue could be from silver, since it will 
always show up there first as far as I know.


   I do not have any fingernail moons,

   No, not one.

   What is wrong with me  ?

   Did my intercellular communications, ..
blow a fuse,
or maybe

 My brain did,  or maybe both ?

 I figured you knew, for sure.

  Wayne


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CS>turning blue, The Cause, The Blame, Who is Responsible

[Wayne Fugitt]

 >> I don't look blue to myself, but some people tell me that I look blue to
 >> them, and this is becoming annoying.  I do make the 10 to 20ppm,
 >> ionic silver, and drink this, however I have little doubt that this would
>>  not cause the blueness.  After all, it's in solution, and the
>> body eliminates this.  I'd appreciate any observations.

  Some of this is in fact,
 "Hearsay Evidence, and Requires Speculation"
===

Morning Reid,

>> At 01:49 PM 4/3/2009, you wrote:

The Cause, the Blame, and Who is Responsible ?

And you never had a Heavy Metal Test ?

Every food you eat is a chelating agent,

  If you eat any food ?

What other 10,000 things are wrong with your Body Chemistry ?

Did you use the proper Data Meter to
 Test your Intercellular Communications?

   ( your body may not know, a grain of rice, from a pile of crap )

Have you been nice,
   To the Genius Body Chemist
   In your body ?

Did you pat him on the Back,
  Kick him in the Rear End,
 Or only
 Stab him in the Body
   With a Very Large Knife ?

What made you think that you have proper Calcium Metabolism,
Many don't, few do, and most,  NEVER Will !

None of the Above?

 You only want to blame one thing,  and
Give no Consideration
   to the many others,  ( thousands of others )
That no doubt,
Have some effect.

Who is color Blind,  ..
 You or them ?

What difference does it make ?

Wayne
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   He is asleep... wake him.
2. He who knows not and knows not that he knows not.
   He is a fool... shun him
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   He is a child... teach him.
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CS>turning blue, The Cause, The Blame, Who is Responsible

[Wayne Fugitt]

 >> I don't look blue to myself, but some people tell me that
I look blue to
 >> them, and this is becoming annoying.  I do make the
10 to 20ppm,
 >> ionic silver, and drink this, however I have little doubt
that this would
>>  not cause the blueness.  After all, it's in solution,
and the 
>> body eliminates this.  I'd appreciate any
observations.
 
  Some of this is in fact,
 "Hearsay Evidence,
and Requires Speculation"
===
Morning Reid,
>> At 01:49 PM 4/3/2009, you wrote:
The Cause, the Blame, and Who is Responsible ?
And you never had a Heavy Metal Test ?
Every food you eat is a chelating agent,
  
  If you eat any food ?
What other 10,000 things are wrong with your Body Chemistry ?
Did you use the proper Data Meter to
 Test your Intercellular Communications?
   ( your body may not know, a grain of
rice, from a pile of crap )
Have you been nice,
   To the Genius Body Chemist
   In your body
?
Did you pat him on the Back,
  Kick him in the Rear End,
 Or only

Stab him in the Body
  
With a Very Large Knife ?
What made you think that you have proper Calcium Metabolism,
    Many don't, few do, and most,  NEVER Will
!
None of the Above?
 You only want to blame one thing,  and

    Give no Consideration
   to the many
others,  ( thousands of others )
   
That no doubt,
   
Have some effect.
Who is color Blind,  ..
 You or them ?
What difference does it make ?
Wayne
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you rather be Tried by 12, or Carried by 6



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1. He who knows and
knows not that he knows. 
   He is
asleep... wake him. 
2. He who knows not and
knows not that he knows not. 
   He is a
fool... shun him 
3. He who knows not and
knows that he knows not. 
   He is a
child... teach him. 
4. He who knows and
knows that he knows. 
  He is a
king... follow him.  
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Re: CS>Sorta Like like godzilla?

[Jonathan B. Britten]

The consumer devices sold widely in Japan use calcium tablets or powder 
versus salt,  but there's definitely production of some chorine or 
chloride in the runoff.   It smells very much like chlorox bleach.
Supposedly it is good for the skin.




On Thursday, Apr 2, 2009, at 18:09 Asia/Tokyo, Ode Coyote wrote:

It turns out that zapping salt water with low-voltage electricity 
creates a couple of powerful yet nontoxic cleaning agents. Sodium ions 
are converted into sodium hydroxide, an alkaline liquid that cleans 
and degreases like detergent, but without the scrubbing bubbles. 
Chloride ions become hypochlorous acid, a potent disinfectant known as 
acid water.



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