CSRx=THORAZINE BUTT DART...4 NEXT-PITA!

[batzcuz]

May already have Ended, but hardly ever post here...so may Still, be use-full?
(List seems to have quieted down for the night, but Indi will likely be 
up-again)
 
Sorry Mike, but not sure where you are hiding-out, so felt this was necessary,
my point being...you have a GREAT LIST and members need to RESPECT-IT!
Several members have asked and tried to re-boot Law  Order, but NO-HELP!  
With (potential) FLU Pandemic...LIST members need to be brewing Extra CS!   

OK Indi, it's been FUN, but almost Monday morning...and CPU_Runneth_Over
...as Your PITA/PETA rantings have been endless all weekend...Time to END!
Near mid-night and BAT Squadron, is ready to launch...armed with Butt-Darts!
 
Personally Batz don't care much for PITA (the bread), or PETA as in Quakers,
but DO have problem with Turkey PITA as in (Pain_In_The_A$$) OT posters..!
Mike set-up Off-Topic LIST, just for PETA/TURKEY discussions...so USE IT
and stop being a BIG-PITA member over here where serious members reside!

Not trying to be a LIST COP...just a normal lurking member that got FED-UP!
 
LoL...Indi, try some CS on your fresh COYOTE BYTES/ Ode...got ya GOOD!!!
JOKING ALL ASIDE -- YOU ARE A CONFESSED, TURKEY THIEVING PITA!
 
Yes, I ended each sentence with an (!) point...to help you get used to images
of seeing BATZ (!) HYPODEMIC-NERDDEL loaded with THORAZINE..!  QED!
 
P.S. Ode mentioned Coyote friends really enjoying WILD TURKEY...Yummy,
but then...may have been referring to WILD TURKEY in bottles...maybe NOT?
Surely everyone knows TURKEY cannot simply FLY away...to avoid Coyotes. 
 
http://video.yahoo.com/watch/1499909/5115198 (SHORT EDITED VERSION)
http://www.hulu.com/watch/322/wkrp-in-cincinnati-turkeys-away (Full 30-min)
 
Only (GOOD) non-PITA members may enjoy link to old WKRP Turkey-Bomb.
Hopefully, everyone will have few laughs at WKRP clip and get-off TURKEYs?
 
FULL~USB,  OK, USB...as in Ultra-Special-Bat...equipped with Stinger!!! 
^BATzCUZ^  
 

--- On Sun, 4/26/09, Hanneke bloss...@internode.on.net wrote:


From: Hanneke bloss...@internode.on.net
Subject: Re: CShumane?
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Sunday, April 26, 2009, 5:31 PM


Will all these self indulgent people keen to talk about the fate of 
the animals  go somewhere else?  please please  pretty please?

Or are you all so childish that you have to wait to be told off by Mike...


At 04:36 AM 27/04/2009, you wrote:

Ah, but do you have statistics for any other animal shelters, or is this
just more picking on PETA? Because you know, most shelters have really high
kill rates due to the lack of qualified people willing to adopt pets.
Perhaps you should report the *whole* story, rather than just the
sensationalist bits designed to manipulate people's emotions.

--
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Re: CSSwine flu infection

[Dee Fitzpatrick]

Hopefully CS will be a major tool in overcoming this disease Carlos.  I have
used it against bad 'flu viruses here, plus pneumonia etc., and it has
always helped enormously.  I would get in a nebulizer though, just in case
if I were in the affected area. Dee 

---Original Message---
 
From: Carlos Pérez
Date: 27/04/2009 00:25:29
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSSwine flu infection
 

Hello, friends,


After more than 3900 messages ago, here I am back to ask the many experts in
the group about the expected effectivity of our beloved EIS/CS in the
control and cure of the swine influenza that has become a serious problem in
Mexico and has also appeared in the South West, NY and other areas in USA.


Y consider myself a very good disciple of the several of you that helped me
get started in this marvelous adventure several years ago. My chronic and
recurrent Ehrlichiosis seems to have disappeared (the symptoms totally have,
at least) and I have been very successful helping dozens with all kinds of
diseases, including a recent case of a young girl with osteomyelitis which
followed a previous aseptia state in her.


Thankful  as always for your support.


Carlosfaint_grain.jpg

Re: CSthe corpse thread...OT

[Dee Fitzpatrick]

I love the sigs Chuck!  Dee 

---Original Message---
 
From: cking...@nycap.rr.com
Date: 26/04/2009 22:34:03
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSthe corpse thread...OT
 
The Secret Life of Plants  by Peter Tompkins and Christopher Bird
was a real eye opener for me.
 
Plants got feelings, too.
 
   Chuck
 
Weight Watchers will meet at 7 PM  at the First Presbyterian Church.
Please use large double door at the side entrance
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RE: CSMexican Swine Flu br An Advanced Biowar Event

[Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC]

I am having trouble finding article on banning Silver Products
Bob

-Original Message-
From: Gayla Roberts [mailto:aera...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 10:06 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSMexican Swine Flu br An Advanced Biowar Event

And yet big companies are making silver bandages.
Gayla Roberts

- Original Message - 
From: Paula Perry blockedmailto:p...@zoomnet.net  
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 3:56 AM
Subject: CSMexican Swine Flu br An Advanced Biowar Event

Article about the Swine Flu that indicates it is most likely
something that was produced in a lab. If you go to read the article,
they also have another one there about how the effort to ban silver
products is being majorly funded by big pharma. It gives specifics. 
Paula

 http://www.healthtruthrevealed.com/articles/10344711404/article
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CSBig Drug Companies Fund Groups Behind Plot to Regulate Nano-Silver

[Paula Perry]

Here's a link directly to that article.
Paula

 http://www.healthtruthrevealed.com/articles/10531511404/article

CSNew swine flu feared to be weaponized strain

[Paula Perry]

Wayne Madsen article on the current swine flu event. Appears to have been 
engineered. 
Paula

 http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_4631.shtml

CStesting

[MaryAnn Helland]

Re: CSthe corpse thread...OT

[Marshall Dudley]

Mike! Where are you

Marshall

Indi wrote:

Liar.

On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 02:12:00PM -0500, Ruth Bertella wrote:
  

   I don't know where Indi is trying to go with these statements or what


 she
  

   is trying to prove, but I'd like to go on record as saying that I have
   never, ever sent emails to her personal email address - only to the


 silver
  

   list.

   Her claim otherwise let's us even more to her persona...



 - Original Message -
 From: [1]Indi
 To: [2]silver-l...@eskimo.com
 Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 1:32 PM
 Subject: Re: CSthe corpse thread...OT
 Being personal email, your issue is with Ruth if you have any sense


 of
  

 faurness whatsoever.
 I decline to address that further here, just as I decline to post any
 email
 Ruth has sent me to a public list. I will say that I certainly have


 an
  

 opinion
 about the sort of person Ruth is, and it is well backed by her


 behavior
  

 toward
 me.

 On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 07:27:00PM +0100, Kirsteen Wright wrote:
 On 4/24/09, Indi [1]indi.sha...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   But most corpse-eaters
   can't stand for anyone to point out that what they are doing


 is
  

 eating
   corpses.
   Don't you ever wonder why? :)
 
 I don't actually think that's true. I have no problem with


 eating
  

 bird,
 aninmal or fish corpses. they're all delicious. And I certainly
 have no
 problem with free speech. However
 
 'Do you actually have a function in life, other than being an
 utter asshole and a troll?
 --
 indi
 
 doesn't actually strike me as promoting free speech.
 
 Kirsteen
 
  References
 
 Visible links
 1. [3]mailto:indi.sha...@gmail.com

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Re: CSAd Hominum

[Marshall Dudley]

Norton, Steve wrote:

I no longer subscribe to the OT.
Too argumentative! 
(Mostly, I couldn't stand listening to my arguments)
 
I can hardly handle the silverlist.



*From:* Day Sutton [mailto:day.sut...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Friday, April 24, 2009 2:47 PM
*To:* Silver Post
*Subject:* CSAd Hominum

See OT post

--
Day Sutton
day.sut...@gmail.com mailto:day.sut...@gmail.com
Actually since Indi quit the off topic list, the silver list have become 
more argumentative than it.


Marshall


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Re: CSReported cases of Swine Flu

[Marshall Dudley]

Sam L. wrote:

I just came across this today.


The Mexican swine flu outbreak of 2009

In April 2009, nearly 1,000 cases of H1N1 swine flu were detected in 
Mexico causing more than 60 deaths^[15] 
#120da048d1c130b5_cite_note-14 . On April 24, 2009, schools (from 
pre-school to university level) were shut down by the government in 
Mexico City and neighbouring State of Mexico to prevent the disease 
from spreading further. News sources report the spread as far north 
as San Diego http://wiki/San_Diego^[16] 
#120da048d1c130b5_cite_note-15 .


After spreading in Mexico it crossed the border to the U.S., causing 8 
cases in Texas and California. The patients have recovered.



[edit http://w/index.php?title=Swine_influenzaaction=editsection=7

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090424/ap_on_he_me/med_swine_flu 
Yeah, I was wondering when they were ever going to release it, they sure 
gave us enough warning they were planning to.


Marshall


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Re: CSthe corpse thread...OT

[Marshall Dudley]

I have been a member of this list for 10 years, and do so to try and 
help people. What this list has become because of Indi is just too much  
for me to handle, and Mike does not seem to be doing anything about it.  
I am therefore unsubbing the list. If anyone wants any help from me on 
colloidal silver or health issues please email me directly.  If the list 
gets straightened out, someone can email me and I will rejoin.


Marshall


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Re: CSthe corpse thread...OT

[mborgert]

I have been a member since 2000, I am also thinking of doing the same thing, but I found the delete button and since saturday I deleted 250 emails before this I had 120 emails in one dayon this stupid subject. Today I deleted 60.
When I asked that this thread please stop, as others have, people called us names.
I am hoping this stupidity stops.
I have learned s very much from you and others I do not wish to unsec. but I may have to
mary
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CSInvitation

[Indi]

Okay, for those of you who simply cannot bear to stop blaming me 
for all your bad feelings, I implore you to please stop spamming the list
with how much you hate me for being a person with an opinion which differs
from yours. Instead, kindly send your hate mail or arguments to me directly.
I welcome discussion and debate, but I am sick to death of being wrongly
blamed for this idiotic snit which has arisen from the childish inability of
a few list members to tolerate any opinion which differs from their own.
For the last freaking time, all I did was share a story and answer a
question, and ever since then, the list has been dominated by a few people
having a tantrum because they didn't like the answer.
Please grow up and stop the whining!
I am not the cause of this nonsense, I have been the victim of it.

Sincerely, 
-- 
indi


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Re: CSInvitation

[Ruth Bertella]

The weekend is over and I'm back, but nowhere near finished wading through all 
the posts from the weekend.  I wonder if it were actually counted up who would 
have the most posts.  Maybe I should say the most snide, rude, smart-assed 
posts that dare to disagree with your POV and 'in my opinion' hiding tactic and 
all those 'last words on this thread' and the syrupy little smiley's and the 
failure to accept responsibility for what gets started when 'you' tire of the 
topic and all the negativity regarding others' POV's not to mention the 
unsolicited nasty little personal email you send when you are called out for 
your childish peevishness/pettiness.  I for one do not care to personally 
exchange anything with you and surely not emails.  This list has seriously gone 
downhill with your arrival.

Ruth

  - Original Message - 
  From: Indi 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 10:21 AM
  Subject: CSInvitation


  Okay, for those of you who simply cannot bear to stop blaming me 
  for all your bad feelings, I implore you to please stop spamming the list
  with how much you hate me for being a person with an opinion which differs
  from yours. Instead, kindly send your hate mail or arguments to me directly.
  I welcome discussion and debate, but I am sick to death of being wrongly
  blamed for this idiotic snit which has arisen from the childish inability of
  a few list members to tolerate any opinion which differs from their own.
  For the last freaking time, all I did was share a story and answer a
  question, and ever since then, the list has been dominated by a few people
  having a tantrum because they didn't like the answer.
  Please grow up and stop the whining!
  I am not the cause of this nonsense, I have been the victim of it.

  Sincerely, 
  -- 
  indi


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CSTurkeys/Corpses . . . Time to Move On and here is How

[sms]

I cure these types of situations by 'Blocking' the poster I find offensive
or demeaning. 
I simply author up several rules in the Message Rules area of Menu Heading
Tools in my mail client which states 
that anywhere a message is found with some-such name, it should be deleted
either in my mail program or at the server. 
Keeps things simple. And no one has to unsub from the Silver-list. 
 
Mike is either on vacation or not well. This is uncharacteristic for him to
not reply. So something is not right in his corner. 
We need to send 'Get Well' messages to Mike maybe. 
 
Also, I don't know if anyone has awakened to the fact now that there is much
happening in the arena of this 'Swine Flu' which is a much more important
topic to discuss than 'Turkeys' - don't ya all think? Whether sponsored by
WHO or not, maybe we should spend some time tossing ideas around for a
preventative protocol using CS and anything else that someone knows about. I
just learned about Boneset for alleviating and preventing Flus. 
 
Just ignore the Turkey thing and block anyone whose messages you don't wish
to appear in your mail. And let's get on with business as usual. 
 
Much respect to all, 
S-Max 
 
 
 
---Original Message--- 
 
From: mborg...@att.net 
Date: 4/27/2009 8:16:00 AM 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: Re: CSthe corpse thread...OT 
 
I have been a member since 2000, I am also thinking of doing the same thing,
but I found the delete button and since saturday I deleted 250 emails before
this I had 120 emails in one day on this stupid subject. Today I deleted 60.

When I asked that this thread please stop, as others have, people called us
names. 
I am hoping this stupidity stops. 
I have learned s very much from you and others I do not wish to unsec.
but I may have to 
mary 
-- Original message from Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart
com: -- 
 
 
 I have been a member of this list for 10 years, and do so to try and 
 help people. What this list has become because of Indi is just too much 
 for me to handle, and Mike does not seem to be doing anything about it. 
 I am therefore unsubbing the list. If anyone wants any help from me on 
 colloidal silver or health issues please email me directly. If the list 
 gets straightened out, someone can email me and I will rejoin. 
 
 Marshall 



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Re: CSReported cases of Swine Flu

[sms]

Thank you Marshall! 
I just wrote an e-mail to the list about this topic also. 
This is an important topic making its way around the world. 
People are dying and I think deserves our attention, at least for a little
while. 
This is one of the things we are here for, isn't it? 
Also, I would like to devote some more attention to 'Where is Mike.' 
As I mentioned in my previous post, this is not at all like him, and I am
beginning to worry somewhat. 
Hopefully, he is out and about and having a great vacation or working around
the house immersed in some construction or fix-it project. 
S-Max 
 
---Original Message--- 
 
From: Marshall Dudley 
Date: 4/27/2009 8:03:53 AM 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: Re: CSReported cases of Swine Flu 
 
Sam L. wrote: 
 I just came across this today. 
 
 
 The Mexican swine flu outbreak of 2009 
 
 In April 2009, nearly 1,000 cases of H1N1 swine flu were detected in 
 Mexico causing more than 60 deaths^[15] 
 #120da048d1c130b5_cite_note-14 . On April 24, 2009, schools (from 
 pre-school to university level) were shut down by the government in 
 Mexico City and neighbouring State of Mexico to prevent the disease 
 from spreading further. News sources report the spread as far north 
 as San Diego http://wiki/San_Diego^[16] 
 #120da048d1c130b5_cite_note-15 . 
 
 After spreading in Mexico it crossed the border to the U.S., causing 8 
 cases in Texas and California. The patients have recovered. 
 
 
 [edit http://w/index.php?title=Swine_influenzaaction=editsection=7 
 
 http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090424/ap_on_he_me/med_swine_flu 
Yeah, I was wondering when they were ever going to release it, they sure 
gave us enough warning they were planning to. 
 
Marshall 
 
 
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CSFw: noise

[Ruth Bertella]

NOTE to silver-list members that she has again sent another unwanted personal 
post to my WORK email address.

Whatever   I can count but have not elected to...  was merely making 
observations...  and when you get started I really wish I could not read...  

Please refrain from sending me you unsolicited, unwanted emails to my work 
email address.  Everything you reference started on the silver list and that is 
where it should stay - unless you wanted to show the list more of your 'true' 
colors.

Ruth

- Original Message - 
From: Indi 
To: Ruth Bertella 
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 10:41 AM
Subject: noise



For those of who can count and read, the conclusion is quite different.

-- 
indi

RE: CSInvitation

[Norton, Steve]

Please! A tsunami like we had the past three days CANNOT be caused by
one person. All of us who at some point could not resist a comment or
could not back off from an issue are at fault. Myself included. Emails
such as those below only serve to keep it going.
 - Steve N



From: Ruth Bertella [mailto:berte...@lfdcbham.com] 
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 8:37 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSInvitation


The weekend is over and I'm back, but nowhere near finished wading
through all the posts from the weekend.  I wonder if it were actually
counted up who would have the most posts.  Maybe I should say the most
snide, rude, smart-assed posts that dare to disagree with your POV and
'in my opinion' hiding tactic and all those 'last words on this thread'
and the syrupy little smiley's and the failure to accept responsibility
for what gets started when 'you' tire of the topic and all the
negativity regarding others' POV's not to mention the unsolicited nasty
little personal email you send when you are called out for your childish
peevishness/pettiness.  I for one do not care to personally exchange
anything with you and surely not emails.  This list has seriously gone
downhill with your arrival.
 
Ruth
 

- Original Message - 
From: Indi mailto:indi.sha...@gmail.com  
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 10:21 AM
Subject: CSInvitation

Okay, for those of you who simply cannot bear to stop blaming me

for all your bad feelings, I implore you to please stop spamming
the list
with how much you hate me for being a person with an opinion
which differs
from yours. Instead, kindly send your hate mail or arguments to
me directly.
I welcome discussion and debate, but I am sick to death of being
wrongly
blamed for this idiotic snit which has arisen from the childish
inability of
a few list members to tolerate any opinion which differs from
their own.
For the last freaking time, all I did was share a story and
answer a
question, and ever since then, the list has been dominated by a
few people
having a tantrum because they didn't like the answer.
Please grow up and stop the whining!
I am not the cause of this nonsense, I have been the victim of
it.

Sincerely, 
-- 
indi


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Re: CSthe corpse thread...OT

[Kathy]

I feel the same. I have gained so much knowledge from all you guys I hate to 
unsub.  I think its ironic this would be allowed to happen just as the flu 
scare is hitting. I think more and more people will be looking for info on CS. 
They should not have to deal with PETA's agenda in order to do so.
Kathy
  - Original Message - 
  From: mborg...@att.net 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 11:08 AM
  Subject: Re: CSthe corpse thread...OT


  I have been a member since 2000, I am also thinking of doing the same thing, 
but I found the delete button and since saturday I deleted 250 emails before 
this I had 120 emails in one day on this stupid subject.  Today I deleted 60.
  When I asked that this thread please stop, as others have, people  called us 
names.
  I am hoping this stupidity stops.
  I have learned s very much from you and others I do not wish to unsec. 
but I may have to
  mary
-- Original message from Marshall Dudley 
mdud...@king-cart.com: -- 


 I have been a member of this list for 10 years, and do so to try and 
 help people. What this list has become because of Indi is just too much 
 for me to handle, and Mike does not seem to be doing anything about it. 
 I am therefore unsubbing the list. If anyone wants any help from me on 
 colloidal silver or health issues please email me directly. If the list 
 gets straightened out, someone can email me and I will rejoin. 
 
 Marshall 
 
 
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CSPlease, I love this list !!!

[JuGargo]

I don't post often but I love reading all the threads from this list   ... 
the kinds of threads that help people, not hurt people.  I have learned  SO 
much from those that do post and when I have asked questions, those on this  
list have been so kind in giving information.  There are some very, very  
knowledgeable people on this list  .. I ask you, please get back to being  
the kind hearted people I have learned from and would love to continue 
learning  from  
 
Blessings,
 
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Re: CSPlease, I love this list !!!

[Deborah Gerard]

I agree Judy I have learned much from this list and have put up with all the 
childish fights so I can keep on learning how about it folks put down your 
weapons and move on,
debbie

--- On Mon, 4/27/09, juga...@aol.com juga...@aol.com wrote:

From: juga...@aol.com juga...@aol.com
Subject: CSPlease, I love this list !!!
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Monday, April 27, 2009, 12:11 PM



I don't post often but I love reading all the threads from this list  ... the 
kinds of threads that help people, not hurt people.  I have learned SO much 
from those that do post and when I have asked questions, those on this list 
have been so kind in giving information.  There are some very, very 
knowledgeable people on this list  .. I ask you, please get back to being the 
kind hearted people I have learned from and would love to continue learning 
from  
 
Blessings,
 
Judy
 
 



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Re: CSReported cases of Swine Flu

[Sam L.]

Hi Marshall.
I'm living in Brazil right now. Last week they had a huge flu vaccination
(flu shot) program for the elderly. A friend of mine was sick last week with
the flu with the same symptoms as the swine flu. He works in the medical
field and he wasn't tested for swine flu. Its a little bit scary here.

Sam L

On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.comwrote:

 Sam L. wrote:

 I just came across this today.


The Mexican swine flu outbreak of 2009

 In April 2009, nearly 1,000 cases of H1N1 swine flu were detected in
 Mexico causing more than 60 deaths^[15] #120da048d1c130b5_cite_note-14 .
 On April 24, 2009, schools (from pre-school to university level) were shut
 down by the government in Mexico City and neighbouring State of Mexico to
 prevent the disease from spreading further. News sources report the spread
 as far north as San Diego http://wiki/San_Diego^[16]
 #120da048d1c130b5_cite_note-15 .

 After spreading in Mexico it crossed the border to the U.S., causing 8
 cases in Texas and California. The patients have recovered.


[edit http://w/index.php?title=Swine_influenzaaction=editsection=7

 http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090424/ap_on_he_me/med_swine_flu

 Yeah, I was wondering when they were ever going to release it, they sure
 gave us enough warning they were planning to.

 Marshall



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-- 
A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to
take
everything you have. Google Ron Paul

CSOops! Sorry

[sms]

Oops!  Yikes!  Sorry list.  I meant to send this to myself.

It is info for reducing the effects of fibromyalgia.
I was interested in learning about the glutathione drink.
Well, maybe somebody can use it and my error in sending
may assist someone else.
S-Max

---Original Message---
 
From: sms
Date: 4/27/2009 9:13:50 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSRediSorb (Glutathione) B-12 Methylcobalamine
 
 
 
Melatonin Spray
 
Liposomal Glutathione Drink
 
Methylcobalamin B12 SprayContact and Purchase Information
 

Re: CSReported cases of Swine Flu

[Deborah Gerard]

I wonder what airline these people who are coming down with this flu were on?
debbie

--- On Mon, 4/27/09, Sam L. one...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Sam L. one...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: CSReported cases of Swine Flu
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Monday, April 27, 2009, 12:16 PM


Hi Marshall.
I'm living in Brazil right now. Last week they had a huge flu vaccination (flu 
shot) program for the elderly. A friend of mine was sick last week with the flu 
with the same symptoms as the swine flu. He works in the medical field and he 
wasn't tested for swine flu. Its a little bit scary here.

Sam L


On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com wrote:

Sam L. wrote:


I just came across this today.


   The Mexican swine flu outbreak of 2009

In April 2009, nearly 1,000 cases of H1N1 swine flu were detected in Mexico 
causing more than 60 deaths^[15] #120da048d1c130b5_cite_note-14 . On April 
24, 2009, schools (from pre-school to university level) were shut down by the 
government in Mexico City and neighbouring State of Mexico to prevent the 
disease from spreading further. News sources report the spread as far north as 
San Diego http://wiki/San_Diego^[16] #120da048d1c130b5_cite_note-15 .


After spreading in Mexico it crossed the border to the U.S., causing 8 cases in 
Texas and California. The patients have recovered.


   [edit http://w/index.php?title=Swine_influenzaaction=editsection=7


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090424/ap_on_he_me/med_swine_flu 
Yeah, I was wondering when they were ever going to release it, they sure gave 
us enough warning they were planning to.

Marshall





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Re: CSOops! Sorry

[Deborah Gerard]

still interesting and useful,
debbie :)

--- On Mon, 4/27/09, sms s...@emotap.com wrote:

From: sms s...@emotap.com
Subject: CSOops! Sorry
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Monday, April 27, 2009, 12:23 PM



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Oops!  Yikes!  Sorry list.  I meant to send this to myself.
 
It is info for reducing the effects of fibromyalgia.
I was interested in learning about the glutathione drink.
Well, maybe somebody can use it and my error in sending
may assist someone else.
S-Max
 
---Original Message---
 

From: sms
Date: 4/27/2009 9:13:50 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSRediSorb (Glutathione) B-12 Methylcobalamine
 
 
 
Melatonin Spray
 
Liposomal Glutathione Drink
 
Methylcobalamin B12 SprayContact and Purchase Information
 









  

CSFw: [Ntl_news] Flu remedies

[Deborah Gerard]

Date: Sunday, April 26, 2009, 9:04 PM





        
http://www.naturalnews.com/023087.html___
Ntl_news mailing list
ntl_n...@tcbunch.com
http://tcbunch.com/mailman/listinfo/ntl_news_tcbunch.com
Any opinions, references, and Links cited are for information only, and are not
intended to diagnose or prescribe. For your specific diagnosis and treatment,
consult your doctor or health care provider. 


  

Re: CSOops! Sorry

[Ruth Bertella]

Hey S-Max,

This is very interesting info!!  No need for apologies on my part - as a matter 
of fact, I'll be sharing the info with a friend of mine.

Thanks!
Ruth
  - Original Message - 
  From: sms 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 11:23 AM
  Subject: CSOops! Sorry


Oops!  Yikes!  Sorry list.  I meant to send this to myself.

It is info for reducing the effects of fibromyalgia.
I was interested in learning about the glutathione drink.
Well, maybe somebody can use it and my error in sending
may assist someone else.
S-Max

---Original Message---

From: sms
Date: 4/27/2009 9:13:50 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSRediSorb (Glutathione) B-12 Methylcobalamine



Melatonin Spray

Liposomal Glutathione Drink

Methylcobalamin B12 SprayContact and Purchase Information
   
  
   

Re: CSPlease, I love this list- hey Wayne?

[Clayton Family]

Speaking of loving the list, has anyone heard from our Intrepid 
Fearless leader lately?


I have had no response to my emails, anyone know if he is ok?

Kathryn


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Re: CSOops! Sorry

[Indi]

Yes it was, no apology needed for that one...

-- 
indi

On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 09:24:52AM -0700, Deborah Gerard wrote:
still interesting and useful,
debbie :)
 
--- On Mon, 4/27/09, sms s...@emotap.com wrote:
 
  From: sms s...@emotap.com
  Subject: CSOops! Sorry
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Date: Monday, April 27, 2009, 12:23 PM
 
  Oops!  Yikes!  Sorry list.  I meant to send this to myself.
 
  It is info for reducing the effects of fibromyalgia.
  I was interested in learning about the glutathione drink.
  Well, maybe somebody can use it and my error in sending
  may assist someone else.
  S-Max
 
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  Date: 4/27/2009 9:13:50 AM
  To: [2]silver-l...@eskimo.com
  Subject: CSRediSorb (Glutathione) B-12 Methylcobalamine
 
 
 
  Melatonin Spray
 
  Liposomal Glutathione Drink
 
  Methylcobalamin B12 SprayContact and Purchase Information
 
 
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Re: CSPlease, I love this list- hey Wayne?

[Deborah Gerard]

I have been e-mailing him for days and no reply anyone have his phone number?

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From: Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com
Subject: Re: CSPlease, I love this list- hey Wayne?
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Monday, April 27, 2009, 12:34 PM

Speaking of loving the list, has anyone heard from our Intrepid Fearless leader
lately?

I have had no response to my emails, anyone know if he is ok?

Kathryn


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Re: CS Time to Move On- been there done that

[Clayton Family]

Yes, good idea.  I have already done so. I am ignoring messages with 
headers I believe will not be any fun to read. I don't like getting 
sucked into it, and do not want to respond, since responding AT ALL 
only keeps it going. We can each take responsibility for our own email, 
and only read what is relevant to healing, or whatever.


Have also sent best wishes to Mike, yes it is not like him at all. But 
maybe he is on vacation.



Kathryn

On Apr 27, 2009, at 10:40 AM, sms wrote:

I cure these types of situations by 'Blocking' the poster I find 
offensive

or demeaning.
I simply author up several rules in the Message Rules area of Menu 
Heading

Tools in my mail client which states
that anywhere a message is found with some-such name, it should be 
deleted

either in my mail program or at the server.
Keeps things simple. And no one has to unsub from the Silver-list.

Mike is either on vacation or not well. This is uncharacteristic for 
him to

not reply. So something is not right in his corner.
We need to send 'Get Well' messages to Mike maybe.

Also, I don't know if anyone has awakened to the fact now that there 
is much
happening in the arena of this 'Swine Flu' which is a much more 
important
topic to discuss than 'Turkeys' - don't ya all think? Whether 
sponsored by

WHO or not, maybe we should spend some time tossing ideas around for a
preventative protocol using CS and anything else that someone knows 
about. I

just learned about Boneset for alleviating and preventing Flus.

Just ignore the Turkey thing and block anyone whose messages you don't 
wish

to appear in your mail. And let's get on with business as usual.

Much respect to all,
S-Max




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CSTo Marshall and others thinking of unsubbing

[Linda Ellis]

Marshall wrote:
I have been a member of this list for 10 years, and do so to try and help 
people. What this list has become because of Indi is just too much  for me to 
handle, and Mike does not seem to be doing anything about it.  I am therefore 
unsubbing the list. If anyone wants any help from me on colloidal silver or 
health issues please email me directly.  If the list gets straightened out, 
someone can email me and I will rejoin.

Well, I for one want to plead with y'all to hang in there.  This is not normal 
for Mike to let this go on so long, so something isn't right on his end.  In 
fact, it's so uncharacteristic of him that I'm flat-out worried about him.

A few months back, we had this same problem on the OT list, and after several 
members AND Mike called her on her list behavior, Indi chose to quit that list 
rather than change her behavior.  She certainly knows that all of this is WAY 
past list guidelines and belonged on OT from about the second post, but 
admonitions to move it there aren't possible for her, because she doesn't 
like the rules there, either.

That this is now happening on this list as well, with (I think) a new bunch of 
people asking her to change her behavior, says a lot about her, doesn't it?  

You may note that I have been totally silent through all this nonsense.  
Mostly, I'm a lurker and learner here.  But Indi, this is about the third or 
fourth time you have been in the same situation, and called yourself the 
victim, when, in fact, you're at the very least an equal contributor to the 
agitation.  Maybe it would be useful to take a step or two back and try to 
consider why this keeps happening to you?  

Meanwhile, I'm emailing Mike directly, because something isn't right.

 Linda
Don’t bother just to be better than your contemporaries or predecessors. Try 
to be better than yourself. William Faulkner 




Marshall


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CSOT Whey Protein Powder

[Kirsteen Wright]

Hi i know this is off topic but, due to various digestive issues, I use
undenatured whey protein powder to help with protein levels. Does anyone
know of any that do NOT contain artificial sweeteners. I'm hoping to be able
to find a supplier in the UK but if anyone knows of any brand then I can
search for a supplier.

Many thanks
Kirsteen

CSCS: nebulizing withCS/EIS

[Harold MacDonald]

I would not be without an Ultra-sonic cool mist humidifier ,particularly 
now.This machine has been a great blessing for me re brochial pneumonia.In 
the past it was a regular thing in the fall and winter to have to go for ABX 
for B.Pneumonia.With the above mister,no more.It's mind stunning how quickly 
it stops the onset of the prob.AND no more adverse side effects of abx.

Also,no more flu shots and no more flu.

Harold
PS: and I'm in my mid 80s now. 



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Re: CSOT Whey Protein Powder

[Indi]

This one might fill the bill:

http://tinyurl.com/d9vqaz


-- 
indi



On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 06:02:19PM +0100, Kirsteen Wright wrote:
Hi i know this is off topic but, due to various digestive issues, I use
undenatured whey protein powder to help with protein levels. Does anyone
know of any that do NOT contain artificial sweeteners. I'm hoping to be
able to find a supplier in the UK but if anyone knows of any brand then I
can search for a supplier.
 
Many thanks
Kirsteen

-- 
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RE: CSOT Whey Protein Powder

[Don Burks]

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/integrated/wheyprotein.html
  -Original Message-
  From: Kirsteen Wright [mailto:kirsteen.falcons...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 1:02 PM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: CSOT Whey Protein Powder


  Hi i know this is off topic but, due to various digestive issues, I use
undenatured whey protein powder to help with protein levels. Does anyone
know of any that do NOT contain artificial sweeteners. I'm hoping to be able
to find a supplier in the UK but if anyone knows of any brand then I can
search for a supplier.

  Many thanks
  Kirsteen

RE: CSOT Whey Protein Powder

[Norton, Steve]

A google search on pure whey no sweetener will show a number of them.
 - Steve N



From: Kirsteen Wright [mailto:kirsteen.falcons...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 10:02 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSOT Whey Protein Powder


Hi i know this is off topic but, due to various digestive issues, I use
undenatured whey protein powder to help with protein levels. Does anyone
know of any that do NOT contain artificial sweeteners. I'm hoping to be
able to find a supplier in the UK but if anyone knows of any brand then
I can search for a supplier.

Many thanks
Kirsteen

CSnebulizer

[Gail Rice]

I don't have any info on nebulizers archived and I have questions for the
more experienced/better informed among us.
I remember someone mentioning metal parts - maybe a screen? - being a
problem in a nebulizer - as if the metal would cause the silver to fall out
of the EIS and one would only be inhaling water vapor. Does this sound
familiar?

Does metal in a container cause changes in EIS?

Someone in the past recommended a particular portable nebulizer as being
handy and effective for him. Does this sound familiar or does anyone of us
reading today have any info or opinion about using a nebulizer? What
protocol or device would you consider or have you used? If you used one,
what were your results?

Gail

Re: CSnebulizer

[Deborah Gerard]

I have a nebulizer and all the parts that the liquid come into contact with are 
plasticnow there might be other brands that are different than mine...
debbie

--- On Mon, 4/27/09, Gail Rice private...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Gail Rice private...@gmail.com
Subject: CSnebulizer
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Monday, April 27, 2009, 1:23 PM


I don't have any info on nebulizers archived and I have questions for the more 
experienced/better informed among us.


I remember someone mentioning metal parts - maybe a screen? - being a problem 
in a nebulizer - as if the metal would cause the silver to fall out of the EIS 
and one would only be inhaling water vapor. Does this sound familiar?


Does metal in a container cause changes in EIS? 



Someone in the past recommended a particular portable nebulizer as being handy 
and effective for him. Does this sound familiar or does anyone of us reading 
today have any info or opinion about using a nebulizer? What protocol or device 
would you consider or have you used? If you used one, what were your results?


Gail 




  

Re: CSOT Whey Protein Powder

[sms]

Kirsteen,
Have you checked Duncan Crow's site. He has quite a few brands listed on his
website.
Just google Duncan Crow.
S-Max

---Original Message---
 
From: Kirsteen Wright
Date: 4/27/2009 10:03:41 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSOT Whey Protein Powder
 
Hi i know this is off topic but, due to various digestive issues, I use
undenatured whey protein powder to help with protein levels. Does anyone
know of any that do NOT contain artificial sweeteners. I'm hoping to be able
to find a supplier in the UK but if anyone knows of any brand then I can
search for a supplier.

Many thanks
Kirsteen

 

RE: CSOT Whey Protein Powder

[Dee Fitzpatrick]

The thing is, the best whey is un-denatured and I just cannot find one in
the UK which is truly un-denatured.  Mercola does one but it is
prohibitively expensive for us in the UK.  Dee 

---Original Message---
 
From: Norton, Steve
Date: 27/04/2009 18:35:39
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSOT Whey Protein Powder
 
A google search on pure whey no sweetener will show a number of them.
 - Steve N




From: Kirsteen Wright [mailto:kirsteen.falcons...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 10:02 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSOT Whey Protein Powder


Hi i know this is off topic but, due to various digestive issues, I use
undenatured whey protein powder to help with protein levels. Does anyone
know of any that do NOT contain artificial sweeteners. I'm hoping to be able
to find a supplier in the UK but if anyone knows of any brand then I can
search for a supplier.

Many thanks
Kirsteen

 faint_grain.jpg

Re: CSnebulizer

[Dee Fitzpatrick]

The Medisana Medibreeze delivers the silver beautifully in a mist - I have
one and it worked great for a bout of near pneumonia.  Dee 

---Original Message---
 
From: Gail Rice
Date: 27/04/2009 18:23:24
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSnebulizer
 
I don't have any info on nebulizers archived and I have questions for the
more experienced/better informed among us.


I remember someone mentioning metal parts - maybe a screen? - being a
problem in a nebulizer - as if the metal would cause the silver to fall out
of the EIS and one would only be inhaling water vapor. Does this sound
familiar?


Does metal in a container cause changes in EIS? 



Someone in the past recommended a particular portable nebulizer as being
handy and effective for him. Does this sound familiar or does anyone of us
reading today have any info or opinion about using a nebulizer? What
protocol or device would you consider or have you used? If you used one,
what were your results?


Gail 


 faint_grain.jpg

RE: CSnebulizer

[Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC]

Omron nebulizer is one I use (all plastic as far as I can tell).
They changed models but still have one of cheapest ones.
54.95 had mine for years and all I use in it is CS.
http://www.portablenebs.com/omronelite.htm
Bob

-Original Message-
From: Gail Rice [mailto:private...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 1:23 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSnebulizer

I don't have any info on nebulizers archived and I have questions for
the more experienced/better informed among us.

I remember someone mentioning metal parts - maybe a screen? - being a
problem in a nebulizer - as if the metal would cause the silver to fall
out of the EIS and one would only be inhaling water vapor. Does this
sound familiar?

Does metal in a container cause changes in EIS? 


Someone in the past recommended a particular portable nebulizer as being
handy and effective for him. Does this sound familiar or does anyone of
us reading today have any info or opinion about using a nebulizer? What
protocol or device would you consider or have you used? If you used one,
what were your results?

Gail 


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Re: CSOT Whey Protein Powder

[Dee Fitzpatrick]

I have tried Kirsteen, but can't find a true un-denatured one.  Duncan Crow
says that the whey *must* be undenatured to be any good but I just can't
find one in the UK.  Mercola does one but this is in the US and is
prohibitively expensive and the postage is ghastly as well.  Dee 

---Original Message---
 
From: Kirsteen Wright
Date: 27/04/2009 18:02:37
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSOT Whey Protein Powder
 
Hi i know this is off topic but, due to various digestive issues, I use
undenatured whey protein powder to help with protein levels. Does anyone
know of any that do NOT contain artificial sweeteners. I'm hoping to be able
to find a supplier in the UK but if anyone knows of any brand then I can
search for a supplier.

Many thanks
Kirsteen

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RE: CSnebulizer

[Gina Moore]

Could someone tell me how to nebulize the CS?  (Or is there a link somewhere
that I'm missing?)  My daughter has asthma, and with her last attack she
also had pneumonia.  She spent 4 days in the hospital - I only went because
her doctor threatened to call CPS on me if I didn't take her.  Yes, I fired
that doc.

Will it help with just asthma?  How much do I give her?  Do I mix it with
something?

Thanks!
Gina

-Original Message-
From: Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC [mailto:robert.j.medw...@us.army.mil]

Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 10:58 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Cc: Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC
Subject: RE: CSnebulizer

Omron nebulizer is one I use (all plastic as far as I can tell).
They changed models but still have one of cheapest ones.
54.95 had mine for years and all I use in it is CS.
http://www.portablenebs.com/omronelite.htm
Bob




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CSAutomatic Delete

[Day Sutton]

Thanks for the info on deleting email automatically.Indi is now off my
copy of the silve-list forever..thanks again.

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Re: CSAutomatic Delete

[Sam L.]

Ditto, a few days ago.

On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Day Sutton day.sut...@gmail.com wrote:

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 copy of the silve-list forever..thanks again.

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Re: CSPlease, I love this list- hey Wayne?

[Dee Fitzpatrick]

Crumbs, is that a first, Wayne?  Must be an intrepid virus to attack *you*
lol dee 

---Original Message---
 
From: Wayne Fugitt
Date: 27/04/2009 19:07:34
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSPlease, I love this list- hey Wayne?
 
Morning Kathryn,
 
   
I hate to say,
  I was sick a few days.
 faint_grain.jpg

Re: CSPlease, I love this list- hey Wayne?

[Indi]

A suicidal virus, no doubt!

-- 
indi

On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 07:25:10PM +0100, Dee Fitzpatrick wrote:
Crumbs, is that a first, Wayne?  Must be an intrepid virus to attack *you*
lol dee
 
---Original Message---
 
From: [1]Wayne Fugitt
Date: 27/04/2009 19:07:34
To: [2]silver-l...@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSPlease, I love this list- hey Wayne?
 
Morning Kathryn,
 
 
I hate to say,
  I was sick a few days.
 
 
 References
 
Visible links
1. mailto:cwa...@netdoor.com
2. mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com



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CSany interest in CS?

[Arnold Beland]

If anyone here still has any interest in CS, there is also a good open 
discussion of colloidal silver and how to make it here:
 
 http://goldismoney.info/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=61

Re: CSany interest in CS?

[Heidrun Beer]

On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 11:46:18 -0700, Arnold Beland wrote in
6544a5c9af0c4db3a6cd1783b2a7e...@arnoldpc:

If anyone here still has any interest in CS, there is also a good 
open discussion of colloidal silver and how to make it here:
 
 http://goldismoney.info/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=61



Funny :-)))




Heidrun Beer

Workgroup for Fundamental Spiritual Research and Mental Training
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Re: CSPlease, I love this list- hey Wayne?

[Wayne Fugitt]

Morning Kathryn,

 At 12:34 PM 4/27/2009, you wrote
Speaking of loving the list, has anyone heard from our Intrepid 
Fearless leader lately?

I have had no response to my emails, anyone know if he is ok?


I have wondered about Mike, .. myself.

  ( my internet was on strike for a day or two )

  I love this list,
   the way that it is,
  Everyone should
 Leave it along,

and

go out and play.

I hate to say,
 I was sick a few days.

I figured out, how to get better,
but have not
figured out, how I got sick.

Must have be the wind,
 the direction of the wind,
or some virus in the wind.

Wayne

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RE: CSInvitation

[Dianne France]

Ruth  Indi

 

I have not followed all of the threads but believe both of you to be valuable 
to this list.  I don't always agree with points of view but have learned a few 
things from both of you.  I hope you can see your way clear to let things 
settle.

 

Dianne  

 


 


From: berte...@lfdcbham.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSInvitation
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 10:36:49 -0500




The weekend is over and I'm back, but nowhere near finished wading through all 
the posts from the weekend.  I wonder if it were actually counted up who would 
have the most posts.  Maybe I should say the most snide, rude, smart-assed 
posts that dare to disagree with your POV and 'in my opinion' hiding tactic and 
all those 'last words on this thread' and the syrupy little smiley's and the 
failure to accept responsibility for what gets started when 'you' tire of the 
topic and all the negativity regarding others' POV's not to mention the 
unsolicited nasty little personal email you send when you are called out for 
your childish peevishness/pettiness.  I for one do not care to personally 
exchange anything with you and surely not emails.  This list has seriously gone 
downhill with your arrival.
 
Ruth
 

- Original Message - 
From: Indi 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 10:21 AM
Subject: CSInvitation

Okay, for those of you who simply cannot bear to stop blaming me 
for all your bad feelings, I implore you to please stop spamming the list
with how much you hate me for being a person with an opinion which differs
from yours. Instead, kindly send your hate mail or arguments to me directly.
I welcome discussion and debate, but I am sick to death of being wrongly
blamed for this idiotic snit which has arisen from the childish inability of
a few list members to tolerate any opinion which differs from their own.
For the last freaking time, all I did was share a story and answer a
question, and ever since then, the list has been dominated by a few people
having a tantrum because they didn't like the answer.
Please grow up and stop the whining!
I am not the cause of this nonsense, I have been the victim of it.

Sincerely, 
-- 
indi

Re: CSAutomatic Delete

[Day Sutton]

mebby not, but it sure keeps my heart rate and blood pressure down...

On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 4:27 PM, Wayne Fugitt cwa...@netdoor.com wrote:

 At 02:16 PM 4/27/2009, you wrote:

 Thanks for the info on deleting email automatically.Indi is now off my
 copy of the silve-list forever..thanks again.


 Are you sure,

 That is the wisest thing,

 You have ever done ?

 Wayne

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Re: CSInvitation

[Ruth Bertella]

Hey Dianne,

Thanks for the vote of confidence in me.  But, when someone sends me an 
unprovoked email telling me I'm an asshole and a troll, well let's just say I'd 
rather have no contact with her.  However, I promise to not let her narcissism 
interfere with my participation in this forum.  Frankly I'm surprised she's 
still allowed to be a part of what was once a wonderful group of people.  From 
now on I'll just grit my teeth...  I learned a long time ago when to shut up... 
 I just wish she would learn to STFU.   

Ruth
  - Original Message - 
  From: Dianne France 
  To: silver-list 
  Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 2:36 PM
  Subject: RE: CSInvitation


  Ruth  Indi
   
  I have not followed all of the threads but believe both of you to be valuable 
to this list.  I don't always agree with points of view but have learned a few 
things from both of you.  I hope you can see your way clear to let things 
settle.
   
  Dianne  
   

   

--
  From: berte...@lfdcbham.com
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: CSInvitation
  Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 10:36:49 -0500


  The weekend is over and I'm back, but nowhere near finished wading through 
all the posts from the weekend.  I wonder if it were actually counted up who 
would have the most posts.  Maybe I should say the most snide, rude, 
smart-assed posts that dare to disagree with your POV and 'in my opinion' 
hiding tactic and all those 'last words on this thread' and the syrupy little 
smiley's and the failure to accept responsibility for what gets started when 
'you' tire of the topic and all the negativity regarding others' POV's not to 
mention the unsolicited nasty little personal email you send when you are 
called out for your childish peevishness/pettiness.  I for one do not care to 
personally exchange anything with you and surely not emails.  This list has 
seriously gone downhill with your arrival.

  Ruth

- Original Message - 
From: Indi 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 10:21 AM
Subject: CSInvitation


Okay, for those of you who simply cannot bear to stop blaming me 
for all your bad feelings, I implore you to please stop spamming the list
with how much you hate me for being a person with an opinion which differs
from yours. Instead, kindly send your hate mail or arguments to me directly.
I welcome discussion and debate, but I am sick to death of being wrongly
blamed for this idiotic snit which has arisen from the childish inability of
a few list members to tolerate any opinion which differs from their own.
For the last freaking time, all I did was share a story and answer a
question, and ever since then, the list has been dominated by a few people
having a tantrum because they didn't like the answer.
Please grow up and stop the whining!
I am not the cause of this nonsense, I have been the victim of it.

Sincerely, 
-- 
indi

CSWisdom of the Day

[Wayne Fugitt]

Evening Dianne,
 At 02:36 PM 4/27/2009, you wrote:
Ruth  Indi
I have not followed all of the threads but believe both of you to be
valuable to this list. I don't always agree with points of view but
have learned a few things from both of you. I hope you can see your
way clear to let things settle.
 Yes, I agree with you.
 No one can insult you or anyone else.
 Unless you allow it.
 When someone says bad things about me.
 I say.

 You are likely right.
 Then, what else can they say
?
Yes, I just smile and think. funny but possibly true.
So,
Tell me how stupid I am.
Tell me, I do not know the time of day,
or 
have enough intelligence to 
get in out of the rain.
Yes. .. you may be right,
But then,
Get the chessboard
and sit down
on the other side.
We will SEE.. yes, we will see.
Wayne
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The World
Tomorrow

Events Today and Events Yesterday
Gaze into your crystal ball.
Open your eyes very wide. Do you see anything ?
Give me one
Firm Place to Stand, and I can Move the World !

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Re: CSWisdom of the Day

[Day Sutton]

On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Wayne Fugitt cwa...@netdoor.com wrote:

 Evening Dianne,

  At 02:36 PM 4/27/2009, you wrote:

 Ruth  Indi
 I have not followed all of the threads but believe both of you to be
 valuable to this list.  I don't always agree with points of view but have
 learned a few things from both of you.  I hope you can see your way clear to
 let things settle.


   Yes, I agree with you.

   No one can insult you or anyone else.
Unless you allow it.

   When someone says bad things about me.

   I say.

   You are likely right.

   Then,  what else can they say ?

 Yes, I just smile and think. funny but possibly true.

 So,
 Tell me how stupid I am.
 Tell me,  I do not know the time of day,
 or
 have enough intelligence to
 get in out of the rain.

 Yes. .. you  may be right,

 But then,

 Get the chessboard
 and sit down
 on the other side.

 We will SEE.. yes, we will see.

 Wayne

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 The World Tomorrow

 Events Today and Events Yesterday

 Gaze into your crystal ball.  Open your eyes very wide.  Do you see
 anything ?

 Give me one Firm Place to Stand, and I can Move the World* !
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Re: CSAutomatic Delete

[Wayne Fugitt]

At 02:16 PM 4/27/2009, you wrote:
Thanks for the info on deleting email automatically.Indi is now 
off my copy of the silve-list forever..thanks again.


Are you sure,

That is the wisest thing,

You have ever done ?

Wayne

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CSFirst-hand view of industrial chicken raising...

[M. G. Devour]

This message was too big for the message size limit. I'm forwarding it 
with some edits for size... and tone.  (Mary Ann will recognize where 
that happened, and forgive me, I hope! sigh) I thought the account 
she presents is worth hearing.  

- Original Message - 
From: MaryAnn Helland 
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 12:58 PM
Subject: Fw: My last post on the topic

Some of the major national chicken processing plants in the US are 
right here in Western Kentucky as well.  My experience may be 
miniscule in your opinion, but we've raised chickens for three 
different national companies -- Seaboard, Con-Agra and Pilgrim's Pride -
 - and were part of a network of hundreds of breeders and growers.  Due 
to networking within the local and national contract growers 
associations, we came in contact with and became friends with many of 
the people who owned and maintained poultry barns, and have personally 
been in many of those barns.  So my experience, in our part of the 
country, is actually fairly broad.  

Debeaking was discontinued many, many years ago.  And I've never even 
heard of searing of the toes -- I can't imagine what would be so worth 
accomplishing with that procedure, that the processor would make the 
investment.   

Your comment that debeaking makes for messy eaters that contaminate 
the feed and floor made me laugh.  The *contamination* that you 
referred to does not come from the front end of a chicken!  lol  And 
chickens are extremely indiscriminate, as are most birds, as to where 
their *contamination* lands.   

Incidentally, water isn't a concern for *contamination* -- they don't 
drink out of troughs!  Water lines are suspended along the length of 
the buildings, along which retractable nipples provide fresh, clean 
water when the bird pecks at the nipple, which is a little bit above 
beak height.  There was a time when suspended water tubes (half-tubes) 
were used, in addition to the water lines, for several days until the 
baby chicks learned how to operate the nipples -- but that practice was 
discontinued many years ago, when it was learned that the chicks 
learned almost instantly how to do that.  I am not conversant on the 
raising of Cornish game birds, but cannot imagine that they water their 
birds in any less efficient fashion than the chicken industry.  And 
efficiency is the name of the game.   

The life-span of the birds is determined by market demand for size.  In 
the chicken industry, the target is a four-pound bird.  This produces 
the size of drumsticks, breasts, etc., that is not only normally 
selected by the American consumer, but also by national chains like 
Kentucky Fried Chicken, as their storage, cooking and serving equipment 
is tailored to that size.  Chickens normally reach that size in 5-1/2 
weeks.  And yes -- during that period of time they mostly eat, drink 
and poop -- and sleep.  That's pretty much what chickens do no matter 
where they live.  I think it's a real stretch to think that they have 
any kind of *fulfilled* life experience.  But our chickens always 
seemed pretty content.  They played, ran, had mock battles -- they were 
pretty funny to sit and watch.   

To the uninitiated, the smell inside poultry barns is unpleasant.  It 
was something that I never got used to myself, but the operators of the 
barns and the service personnel of the processors and the repair people 
from various equipment companies -- all seem unbothered by it.  And in 
fact, great sums of money are spent on elaborate ventilations systems 
designed to evacuate stale air and replace with fresh.  Because you are 
exactlly right -- chickens are extremely sensitive to ammonia, and high 
ammonia levels negatively affect the cost/gain ratio  Fact is, birds in 
high-ammonia level houses do not thrive.

Birds in high-ammonia level houses are in the hands of poor management 
practices.  In our part of the country, the processors have a crew of 
supervisors who visit every single poultry house a couple times a week 
to check on the progress of each flock.  High ammonia levels are 
discovered very quickly, and remedies arranged for.  A grower who 
repeatedly has these problems finds themselves very quickly with no 
birds to raise; and with no birds to raise, has no money to pay for a 
huge mortgage obligation, and therefore either gets in line with 
quality practices, or sells their operation to someone who will. 

Oh -- by the way -- the breathing apparatus you referred to?  It's 
primarily to protect the lungs of the people in poultry houses from the 
dust laden air.  By the time chickens reach adult size, there is dust 
from the floor, dander from the birds, as well as feathers -- all 
floating freely in the air. This is exacerbated during the winter 
months, when the cooling systems for the barns are not in operation, 
but rather heating systems which dry the air as well as warm it, thus 
encouraging the dusty atmosphere.  The water (mist) of the cooling 

CSmaking cs

[Revonda Henderson]

When I make a batch of CS I always clean the silver electrodes before brewing. 
However, when the batch is complete there are usually a few silver particles or 
sluggy type substance floating in the water. So, I tried straining the cs 
through a reuseable coffee filter to get these particles I can see out. My ppm 
meter reads around 5 when the batch is complete but after I strained it the ppm 
meter reads 0. Any advice please...Thanks

RE: CSInvitation

[Norton, Steve]

I wish I could say that the problems of the past few days were done. But
I see that a few individuals who were a part of the problem cannot
resist final parting shots with comments of their blocking of another's
posts and comments of how they learned long ago when to remain silent.
Apparently not. I find myself even more disgusted today with all the
high fives going around.
A big person, or even medium, person would have simply blocked an
undesired poster in silence and not brag of it to the list.
 - Steve N

CSBoneset

[Gayla Roberts]

I just learned about Boneset for alleviating and preventing Flus. 

Is the same boneset as the plant comfrey? Or a different one?
Gayla Roberts


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Re: CSmaking cs

[Clayton Family]

sounds like the wrong kind of strainer, since it is catching the ions.

One could decant it into another container after letting it settle 
overnight, leaving the bottom stuff behind.


Or a paper filter could be used, maybe rinsing it first with some 
boiled distilled water. This works for me, with no decrease in the 
reading.


kathryn

On Apr 27, 2009, at 4:08 PM, Revonda Henderson wrote:

When I make a batch of CS I always clean the silver electrodes before 
brewing. However, when the batch is complete there are usually a few 
silver particles or sluggy type substance floating in the water. So, I 
tried straining the cs through a reuseable coffee filter to get these 
particles I can see out. My ppm meter reads around 5 when the batch is 
complete but after I strained it the ppm meter reads 0. Any advice 
please...Thanks



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RE: CSmaking cs

[Norton, Steve]

Or one could wait a few days and add some H2O2 to the CS. The silver
oxide will probably go into solution.
 - Steve N 

-Original Message-
From: Clayton Family [mailto:clay...@skypoint.com] 
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 2:32 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSmaking cs

sounds like the wrong kind of strainer, since it is catching the ions.

One could decant it into another container after letting it settle
overnight, leaving the bottom stuff behind.

Or a paper filter could be used, maybe rinsing it first with some boiled
distilled water. This works for me, with no decrease in the reading.

kathryn

On Apr 27, 2009, at 4:08 PM, Revonda Henderson wrote:

 When I make a batch of CS I always clean the silver electrodes before 
 brewing. However, when the batch is complete there are usually a few 
 silver particles or sluggy type substance floating in the water. So, I

 tried straining the cs through a reuseable coffee filter to get these 
 particles I can see out. My ppm meter reads around 5 when the batch is

 complete but after I strained it the ppm meter reads 0. Any advice 
 please...Thanks


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Re: CSInvitation

[Ruth Bertella]

I'm really sorry you feel that way, Steve.  I wasn't even here on Friday and 
Saturday and I believe I've only sent sent 2 OT posts/responses today, so I 
think I can safely say I wasn't a big part of the problem.  I can assure you 
and the list that this will be my last one of the day, as well as my last one 
regarding the various threads that have definitely been a burden (to put it 
mildly) on everyone.  My apologies to the list members as well.

Ruth 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Norton, Steve 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 4:28 PM
  Subject: RE: CSInvitation


  I wish I could say that the problems of the past few days were done. But I 
see that a few individuals who were a part of the problem cannot resist final 
parting shots with comments of their blocking of another's posts and comments 
of how they learned long ago when to remain silent. Apparently not. I find 
myself even more disgusted today with all the high fives going around.
  A big person, or even medium, person would have simply blocked an undesired 
poster in silence and not brag of it to the list.
   - Steve N

Fw: CSInvitation

[Ruth Bertella]

Sorry - that should have read that I wasn't here at all on Saturday or Sunday.  
Again, my apologies.

Ruth

- Original Message - 
From: Ruth Bertella 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 4:58 PM
Subject: Re: CSInvitation


I'm really sorry you feel that way, Steve.  I wasn't even here on Friday and 
Saturday and I believe I've only sent sent 2 OT posts/responses today, so I 
think I can safely say I wasn't a big part of the problem.  I can assure you 
and the list that this will be my last one of the day, as well as my last one 
regarding the various threads that have definitely been a burden (to put it 
mildly) on everyone.  My apologies to the list members as well.

Ruth 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Norton, Steve 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 4:28 PM
  Subject: RE: CSInvitation


  I wish I could say that the problems of the past few days were done. But I 
see that a few individuals who were a part of the problem cannot resist final 
parting shots with comments of their blocking of another's posts and comments 
of how they learned long ago when to remain silent. Apparently not. I find 
myself even more disgusted today with all the high fives going around.
  A big person, or even medium, person would have simply blocked an undesired 
poster in silence and not brag of it to the list.
   - Steve N

CSMary Ann

[Norton, Steve]

Mary Ann,
If you haven't already blocked me, I would like to say that of everyone,
I think you deserve an apology. For you to have run a chicken business
for so many years humanely deserves everyone's respect and thanks. I
realize that there are many horrible chicken businesses run by both
large and small operators but you should not be blackened by their
efforts. I would have commented at the time but I did not want to add
fuel to the fire.
 - Steve N 

Re: CSOT Whey Protein Powder

[Hanneke]

Your best bet is to get in contact with a possible supplier. Many do 
have additives.


I had to ring several (I am in Australia), and did find one.   Duncan 
Crowe would be the person to ask even though I haven't seen him 
around here on the list for a while.


At 02:32 AM 28/04/2009, you wrote:
Hi i know this is off topic but, due to various digestive issues, I 
use undenatured whey protein powder to help with protein levels. 
Does anyone know of any that do NOT contain artificial sweeteners. 
I'm hoping to be able to find a supplier in the UK but if anyone 
knows of any brand then I can search for a supplier.


Many thanks
Kirsteen




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Re: CSMary Ann

[MaryAnn Helland]

Thanks Steve -- that means a lot to me.  I wrote an indepth reply to Malcolm's 
post on Saturday, rebutting his misunderstandings of the business -- but for 
some reason, my post will not go through to the list.  I feel bad about that, 
because many people eat chicken and after Malcolm's post -- must be looking at 
it completely differently.  I haven't blocked you Steve -- why would I?  You 
haven't denigrated me, nor sent me snide personal emails -- as some people 
have.  So thanks again.
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From: Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 5:06:27 PM
Subject: CSMary Ann


Mary Ann,
If you haven't already blocked me, I would like to say that of everyone, I 
think you deserve an apology. For you to have run a chicken business for so 
many years humanely deserves everyone's respect and thanks. I realize that 
there are many horrible chicken businesses run by both large and small 
operators but you should not be blackened by their efforts. I would 
have commented at the time but I did not want to add fuel to the fire.
 - Steve N 

Fw: CSInvitation

[Norton, Steve]

Ruth,
I wasn't directing my comments at you specifically. And I understand that a lot 
of people had their feelings hurt. And you have a right to feel hurt. There 
were a number of mean things said over the past gew days. 
I have had a few instances where someone had responded to me in what I felt was 
an insulting and demeaning manner (as well as being technically incorrect) and 
I responded with a somewhat angry response. I was sorry the moment I sent it. 
Fortunately a few times Mike caught and held my post. (Thanks Mike) 
But if I had proven my point at the expense of another's face I would have 
found no pleasure in it. In fact I would have felt ashamed. 
I would rather back  off and appear wrong than prove myself right that way. I 
hope we all strive for that. 
 -  Steve N

Re: CSmaking cs

[nupa_n...@hotmail.com]

I have 2 1923 silver dollars, do you think they're pure enough to make some CS?
--- On Mon, 4/27/09, Revonda Henderson mrjam...@charter.net wrote:


From: Revonda Henderson mrjam...@charter.net
Subject: CSmaking cs
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Monday, April 27, 2009, 4:08 PM






When I make a batch of CS I always clean the silver electrodes before brewing. 
However, when the batch is complete there are usually a few silver particles or 
sluggy type substance floating in the water. So, I tried straining the cs 
through a reuseable coffee filter to get these particles I can see out. My ppm 
meter reads around 5 when the batch is complete but after I strained it the ppm 
meter reads 0. Any advice please...Thanks


  

CS[List Owner] I'm Baa-aack!

[M. G. Devour]

Hello, everybody!

As Mark Twain said, The rumors of my death have been greatly 
exaggerated!

I sincerely want to thank EVERYONE who expressed their concern and left 
me messages over the last several days as I was absent when needed. I 
am still coping with some health issues that limit my energy and often 
monopolize my attention. However, in this specific case, I just 
happened to get really busy at precisely the wrong time...

I was fully caught up with the list as recently as early on the 23rd. 
It is now the 27th. When did all hell start to break loose? The 23rd 
and 24th... sigh I got so involved with a project for my family that 
I failed to even *think* about the list for several days. 

Today I checked in, deleted about ***Five THOUSAND*** SPAM messages 
from my in-box, and caught up with both the list and private 
correspondence. (Wayne: Before you say it, mate, it's actually helpful 
for me to LET all that SPAM come through in order to avoid false-
positives in the spam filters getting in the way of some members' 
ability to participate in the list or to contact me. It's a price of 
doing business, I'm afraid! grin)

Okay, so what's happened? It started innocently enough! Poor Leslie, 
for reasons I understand PERFECTLY well, asked a totally off-topic 
question about what kind of cord to use to lift or turn a turkey in the 
oven... That's all!

(By the way, Leslie, my wife has a contraption of wire and chain that 
is designed for that operation. You lay it in the pan under the bird 
before cooking and it's there when you're ready to lift it out of the 
pan afterward. Google 'chain turkey lifter.' You can let your son know, 
for future reference! wink! )

Several folks helped her, exactly as she and I would both expect to 
happen with this great group of people, and in the process a few folks 
started trading tips on slow-cooking various meats.

Anyone who's been here any length of time knows I don't object to a 
little OT chit-chat and noise, and that I accept and even encourage 
health-related questions not directly related to CS, so long as they're 
treated more briefly and don't overwhelm the discussion for long 
periods of time.

However... If you're looking to turn things into a big mess, just get 
us started on a debate over politics (animal rights, anyone?) or 
religion (vegetarianism vs. eating meat)... 

I joke... a little. sigh

Finally after no fewer than twenty off topic posts on cooking dead 
animals, Indi posted her story about releasing a live turkey doomed to 
be raffled off for the holiday, many years ago. When confronted over 
the political/ethical aspects of this by Teri, she explained, 'telling 
that story was simply my gentle little way of saying, we don't all 
want advice on how to prepare corpses in our inbox. No offense, but 
this is the silver-list...'  

Okay, let's do a little analysis: The rules allow *some* OT chit-chat. 
The rules ask you to contact me, the list owner, if you feel that 
anyone's behavior is offensive. In those rules, I specifically 
discourage members from playing List Cop by posting complaints about 
other members. Dealing with all of that is supposed to be my job. The 
rules also prohibit politics, religion, and any other obviously 
controversial topic that can be reasonably expected to trigger an 
argument.  

List rules? We have rules? Yep. They're at the web site that's linked 
to in the footer at the bottom of every message from the list:

   www.silverlist.org

Now maybe you haven't heard from the list owner in many weeks? Maybe 
he's not really paying attention? Does that mean it's okay to post just 
a little hint or two that you don't like what's going on? Does it 
mean you should jump on another member's remarks because of their 
controversial overtones? Does that mean that everybody who's ever been 
annoyed with anybody else can pile on and say anything they damn well 
think, and snap back with whatever they like?

Are you tired of rhetorical questions yet?

Let me tell you why you have heard so little from me lately: Yes, I'm 
dealing with health issues and a bunch of family obligations. However, 
in case you haven't noticed, it has been MONTHS since the main list has 
*needed* any serious intervention from me. You have all been doing an 
outstanding job of staying reasonably on track, taking care of new 
people and each other, and steering clear of discord. I had to beat 
down a brushfire on the OT list around Christmas time, and again in 
January, but beyond that I can't remember the last time I had to step 
in at all seriously on the main list...

I just checked. It was early November of last year.

Think about what that means? Thank you, folks! You did that!

I really do depend on you to govern yourselves as much as possible (and 
not each other...). Despite Steve's assumption that I caught a couple 
of his posts, I don't actually review the messages before they go out. 
(His probably got snagged by the very low, 18k message size 

Re: CSmaking cs

[ZZekelink]

Steve, what ratio would you use  ??   how much H2O2   to how much silver??? 
Thanks,  Lois
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Re: CSmaking cs

[Indi]

Usually, silver of at least 99.9% purity (.999) is recommended.
According to http://www.austincoins.com/peace_silver_dollars.htm ,
the 1923 Silver Dollar is only 90% (.900).

--
indi


On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 05:31:22PM -0700, nupa_n...@hotmail.com wrote:
I have 2 1923 silver dollars, do you think they're pure enough to make
some CS?
--- On Mon, 4/27/09, Revonda Henderson mrjam...@charter.net wrote:
 
  From: Revonda Henderson mrjam...@charter.net
  Subject: CSmaking cs
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Date: Monday, April 27, 2009, 4:08 PM
 
  When I make a batch of CS I always clean the silver electrodes before
  brewing. However, when the batch is complete there are usually a few
  silver particles or sluggy type substance floating in the water. So, I
  tried straining the cs through a reuseable coffee filter to get these
  particles I can see out. My ppm meter reads around 5 when the batch is
  complete but after I strained it the ppm meter reads 0. Any advice
  please...Thanks

-- 
indi


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CSFw: Rat-packing

[Norton, Steve]

I meant to send this to the list. 

- Original Message -
From: Norton, Steve
To: 's...@asis.com' s...@asis.com
Sent: Mon Apr 27 20:58:21 2009
Subject: Re: Rat-packing

Malcolm,
I certainly don't think fault lies with any one person. 
Is it ok it I send info on silver citrate tomorrow? Right now I am on a 
blackberry and with my vision it is difficult. 
 - Steve N 

- Original Message -
From: Malcolm s...@asis.com
To: Norton, Steve
Sent: Mon Apr 27 19:41:00 2009
Subject: Rat-packing

Hi Steve, 
It's really disgusting; part of what no doubt pushed Indi to continue
was the urge not to give in to such creepy behavior.  It seemed that she
was picked from the start to be the low one in the pecking order.  Of
course she did contribute a bit of her own fuel to the initial political
fires, but who would have expected so much hatred?

Some males of the group appear to have hidden issues with women, too.

Ah, well.

On another subject entirely; was it you who posted some time ago on
silver citrate?  I'm interested in learning to make some and would
appreciate whatever info you might have, or could point me to . .. .

TIA,
Malcolm

Re: CSFirst-hand view of industrial chicken raising...

[cking001]

Thank you MaryAnn.
Very enlightening.
I really appreciated it.

BTW, welcome back Mike.
WTH were you?
Can I call Marshall now?

Chuck

For sincere personal advice, page your sysop at 3 AM.


 - Original Message -
 From: MaryAnn Helland
 Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 12:58 PM
 Subject: Fw: My last post on the topic
 
 Some of the major national chicken processing plants in the US are
 right here in Western Kentucky as well.  My experience may be
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Re: CSmaking cs

[Norton, Steve]

I am on a blackberry right now and don't access to all the previous posts. Is 
this relative to the CS with silver oxide and problems filtering it out? If so 
I would add 1/4 to 1/2 tsp of 3% H2O2 to a quart. 
- Steve N



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To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Mon Apr 27 19:41:35 2009
Subject: Re: CSmaking cs 


Steve, what ratio would you use ??   how much H2O2   to how much silver??? 
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Re: CSOne First-hand view of industrial chicken raising...

[Malcolm]

On Mon, 2009-04-27 at 21:07 -0005, M. G. Devour wrote:
 This message was too big for the message size limit. I'm forwarding it 
 with some edits for size... and tone.  (Mary Ann will recognize where 
 that happened, and forgive me, I hope! sigh) I thought the account 
 she presents is worth hearing. 

Thank you Mike, so do I.
And MaryAnn, my apologies to you for the hot tone of my response to your
post Re: Indi.

I have some specific comments, but first I have to admit that if 10
years is many many years ago, your point regarding improvement in
practice is a valid one, and as I said in my post to you, I'm pleased
that you (and your associates) were/are running  clean operations,
congratulations!

The business in Petaluma and the Central Valley in CA is indeed
different; or at least was.  There were no contract barn operations,
there was vertically integrated business; Foster Farms.
There are other firms in Oregon, I'm not sure of their affiliations or
integration-association status. The primary reason for their location
is, of course, to be close to the feed source; the Willamette Valley in
OR and the Central Valley in CA.

Since including my responses within the text of your post would make it
too long again, I'll try to compact it up in this part and shuffle back
and forth between mine and your'n.

I don't question your experience as poultry producers, I question it as
being knowledgeable about the entire industry; you state you produced
400,000 birds a year; Foster Farms produces about that in a week -
counting more than a single processing facility, but nevertheless.

If you knew that de-beaking was common practice (many, many years
ago), why did you dummy up and try to make Indi out to be a proven
ridiculous liar for bringing it up as an objectionable practice?  My
point is not to defend Indi, my point is that I object to the
rat-packing that has been going on here; and I must say that you have
been one of the least offensive, but you got me with ... proves she's
full of BS

The other part of that paragraph that made you laugh is at least
condescending and it should have been obvious from the context that I
was referring to any spilled feed on the floor being contaminated with
fecal material.  Chickens Are indiscriminate, and that extends to their
eating habits.  LOL and all that. Oh I know it was just a joke.  I
suggest if your intent is to engage in more rhetorical divagations you
do so off this list; you're welcome to email me your best.

The Cornish Cross, or Hubbard, is the standard commercial meat bird.
And as you repeat, 'many years ago'  the watering practices were
different.

To the uninitiated the smell is pretty bad; hell, it's pretty bad to the
initiated, it's even fierce just driving by on a warm afternoon.  And
yes the dust is a serious problem, as is ammonia.

Of course I'm correct that the chicks are vaccinated.  I'm also correct
that vaccination for Marek's damages the immune system, but the
alternative is worse - for the producer.  Any facility that becomes
contaminated with Marek's is essentially a lost cause and better
abandoned.  A commercial operation can't stand that.  

Regarding finished weight: east coast, west coast. . . I thought
Kentucky fried liked smaller ones, airlines smaller yet?

I quote you . . . . .
I also had a chuckle at your comment that the chicken's legs are 
 slammed into the clamps.  Nowhere else in your post is it more 
 obvious, the emotional and derogatory slant of your opinion.  Come on 
 Malcom -- there's nothing *pretty* about the food-producing industry. 
 You can demonize it, if you want to, but the fact is it's necessary --
 
And nowhere else in yours is it more apparent that you employ condescension 
as a tool to put down others - strictly low-class, kiddo; i.e. don't do it, K? 
So anyway, Chuckles, I'm glad to know there's nothing pretty about the 
food producing industry, but you missed on that emotional and derogatory 
slant part. I occasionally raise or hunt, slaughter, cut and wrap my own meat, 
no 
light task for an old man any more.  (and yes, I even buy it out of the store, 
too; just no moral fibers left, I guess)
But I've watched the line, many,many years ago, of course, and it MOVES!  
And they get slammed in.  People (workers) don't get payed much to do this, 
and they're pushed to do it fast, quid pro quo, doncha know?
  
I don't demonize the meat industry, and I don't demonize you; I object 
to you demonizing and slurring someone else who raised their own 
legitimate objections and stuck by their principles, and I object to you 
shading the truth by denying the facts regarding de-beaking with a flip 
evasion about Beaks and feet were never removed -- if they were, then the 
birds 
would not be able to get to the feed and water that they need to survive, 
much less grow to harvest size..  



take care,
Malcolm





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