Re: CS> Native American stories--OT

[Malcolm]

I know what you mean.  I'm reminded of a remark I once heard;
"I have two speeds, slow and stop.  If you don't like this one you sure
won't be happy with the other."

On Wed, 2009-09-30 at 20:41 -0700, Sandy wrote:
> Hi Donna...
> 
> It is sad the way some people treat others but if we learn from it [in a good 
> way] then we will teach our children not to be prejudice.
> 
> The man who refused to buy a horse from your Grandfather shows how little he 
> knew because it is a well known fact the Cherokee have a wonderful way with 
> horses.
> 
> I have found that many people do not know how to act around handicapped 
> people...I feel for your daughter. I had a stroke 6 years ago and do not walk 
> very fast and I have had people honk at me to hurry up and get across the the 
> street...they are in such a hurry they could care less that I might have a 
> problem walking. The funny thing is when someone tries to rush me I get 
> excited and go twice as slow...lol.
> 
> Sandy 
> 
> 
> 
> > From: Donna 
> > Subject: Re: CS>  Native American stories--OT
> > To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> > Date: Wednesday, September 30, 2009, 7:39 PM
> > 
> > > Sandy, 
> > 
> > > Glad you shared your story!  It is sad the way
> > people have been so cruel to others.  I know being from
> > Cherokee my Grandfather use to deal with alot of
> > discrimination.  He had a farm and one time a man came
> > looking to buy a horse from my Grandfather but the man ended
> > up not buying it saying he would never trust an Indian and
> > would not pay him a dime for his horse.  I raised my
> > children to be respectful to everyone and not to
> > be   prejudice.  I also have a
> > handicapped daughter and young children would come up to her
> > wheelchair and ask why she can't walk and their parents
> > would pull them away.  I would always try to answer
> > them to let them know.  I feel sorry for these kids
> > that are taught prejudice by their ignorant parents,
> > children are not born that way.
> > 
> > Donna ACS
> > 
> > 
> 
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Re: CS> Native American stories--OT

[Kirsteen Wright]

On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 2:15 AM,  wrote:

>  After reading all of the different stories here--two important things
> come to my mindAs a child when topics concerning race came up--- my Mom
> & Dad would say--"We all bleed the same color blood"--
>

Being Scottish my family's phrase was  "We're a' Jock Tamson's bairns".

Cheers
Kirsteen

Re: CS> Native American stories--OT

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

I agree, the pendulum is swinging too far the other way, as it tends  
to do.  dee


On 1 Oct 2009, at 23:28, aKa Jhon wrote:


 In my experience,prejudices have a reason,,
and if your definition of 'diversity means all thinking
the same,where is the place for prejudice peoples..
just give them a pill??? Maybe they wish for a pill that
would the 'others' go away'...
oh well

"I think that the lofty idea of 'the war on racism' is gradually  
turning into a hideously false ideology. … And this anti-racism will  
be for the twenty-first century what communism was for the twentieth  
century: a source of violence."



Mike I couldn't help my self,,,
Mayer coppa,,or something..

.
(There will always be individuals  who harbor  resentment  and
animosity,  but mostly  they will keep it to themselves  these  
days.  We

can perhaps have some control over how people act in public,  but we
cannot govern  what they think.It would be wonderful  if there  
were

some magic pill or elixir that would make this all go away.)

Re: CS> Native American stories--OT

[Sandy]

Ha Ha Thanks Malcolm, I'm going to remember that saying...it certainly replies 
to me.

Sandy

--- On Fri, 10/2/09, Malcolm  wrote:

> From: Malcolm 
> Subject: Re: CS>  Native American stories--OT
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Date: Friday, October 2, 2009, 1:52 AM
> I know what you mean.  I'm
> reminded of a remark I once heard;
> "I have two speeds, slow and stop.  If you don't like
> this one you sure
> won't be happy with the other."
 
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RE: CS>CS for Equine sweet itch

[Dianne France]

Garnet

Why don't these worms show up in cultures?  

Dianne
 
> Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 09:01:44 -0500
> From: gar...@grandecom.net
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>CS for Equine sweet itch
> 
> If he has it in his mane and on his tail head it is allergy 
> to the bite of the
> cuculoides midge. Other skin problems are associated, such 
> as a tendency
> to get rain rot.This midge is a carrier of Onchocerca. a 
> worm that some horses
> are allergic to. The main problem is the immature stage of 
> the Onchocerca
> called filariads.
> 
> Onchoceriasis is a cause of Uveitis, Moon blindness, in 
> horses and humans
> when the migrating filariads enter the eye and cause an 
> autoimmune inflammation
> that often results in blindness with no cause ever being 
> detected. It is more
> commonly a cause of blindness in third world countries 
> although I am told
> by a vet opthamologist at Texas A&M that it just goes 
> unrecognized in
> humans in the US.
> 
> Generally it takes until at least 7 years of age for this 
> syndrome to manifest to
> a severe degree. It is worse in the spring and summer, 
> better in the winter due
> to the midge dying off. I had a mare who I bought at age 7 
> who declined for
> the next four years and was seen by many vets until I found 
> one who recognized
> the syndrome, he was an older man and very knowledgeable. He 
> said many
> practitioners did not know this syndrome and would give 
> steroids for the skin
> condition.
> 
> The load of the worm builds over a period of years even with 
> regular worming
> at two month intervals. Often to a systemic reaction with 
> sores breaking out on
> the belly, flanks, face and shoulders. The belly especially 
> can then end up with
> fungal infections as secondary opportunists. Often the skin 
> develops wrinkles
> over the shoulder from the inflammation.
> 
> You want to kill the filariads slowly and interrupt the 
> short live cycle initially to
> knock the numbers back. To do this give half doses of 
> Ivermectin every two
> weeks for four doses, then every three weeks for four
> doses, then a full dose once a month or a daily wormer. Some 
> horses that
> go untreated end up on steroids which further suppress their 
> immunity and
> then as they decline in health they succumb to something 
> like the flu.
> 
> The allergic reaction to the midge bites may be due to a 
> load of Onchocerca
> worms causing a generalized immune reaction. Worming every 8 
> weeks is not
> enough to control the population of filariads from building 
> to a critical level.
> The sores on the skin that develop in certain areas are 
> groups of the migrating
> filariads. One vet actually told me the sores on my mare's 
> flanks were Cancer!
> I knew this was not true as she was biting at her flanks 
> every spring and the
> sores went away in the winter.
> 
> Once the heavy load of filariads is brought under control 
> worming using the half
> doses of Ivermectin a maintenance schedule of once a month 
> will interrupt the
> cycle and restore immune health. Keep him on a once a month 
> schedule year
> round.
> 
> CS will help control the skin condition but you must treat 
> the cause to make any
> real progress. I have also used Sugardine on the skin, which 
> is Betadine ointment
> mixed with table sugar to the consistency of runny peanut 
> butter, it will thicken
> over night as the sugar swells. It is effective against 
> fungal infections of the skin
> and will stay on longer than CS.
> 
> Garnet
> 
> Misc. IP Group wrote:
> > Hi anybody used CS for equine sweet itch or any other recommendations?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Have a stallion who is suffering terribly and if any part of his
> > body is exposed he’s bitten badly and now has scabs and open wound
> > in those places. Tried fly sprays, sweet itch blankets etc but
> > still to no avail.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Was wondering if spraying CS would help or if it needs to be
> > combined with something to 1) help heal the wounds and b) strengthen
> > his system to be able to fight the sweet itch naturally.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Many thanks
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Peter
> > 
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Re: CS>Alkalizing

[Melly Bag]

Marshall,
 
Ozarka sells water with magnesium and calcium citrate as well as baking soda.  
 
Melly

--- On Thu, 10/1/09, Marshall Dudley  wrote:


From: Marshall Dudley 
Subject: CS>Alkalizing
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Thursday, October 1, 2009, 3:57 PM


Well, now that I have gotten my wife off of her high blood pressure medicine, 
and she says she fells better than she has in over a decade, I am wanting to do 
the same for her diabetes medicine.  I am trying to get her alkalized and 
chelated.  For the alkalizing I am adding 1 drop of MMS per quart of water in 
our water tank.  I am looking at adding some additional minerals to the water.

Exploring sodium bicarbonate I am concerned that it is strongly alkaline when 
it hits the stomach.  This immediately reacts with the stomach acid producing 
CO2, water and table salt.  This can screw up digestion, and long term cause 
the body to produce excess acid to counteract it.  The alkalizing is then done 
in the blood by the body replacing the HCl changing the NaCl in the blood to 
HCl in the stomach and sodium bicarbonate in the blood.  Having to produce 
extra HCl in an empty stomach concerns me, I think it can lead to digestive 
problems in the long term.  Another consideration is that baking soda makes 
water taste pretty bad.

So upon investigating I found that citrates of the alkali metals are considered 
ideal for alkalizing the body.  Potassium citrate, which is often used, can 
lead to electrolyte imbalances, as can magnesium and calcium, unless they are 
balanced in the application.  Sodium citrate however is well tolerated by the 
body, with excessive sodium in the form of salt being quickly and easily 
eliminated by the kidneys.  So I am considering adding sodium citrate to my 
water as well.

Now, it seems that sodium citrate is not readily available locally, but can be 
ordered from soap making suppliers.  However sodium citrate can be easily made 
by adding one mol of citric acid to 3 mols of bicarbonate of soda ( 100 grams 
of citric acid to 85.8 grams of sodium bicarbonate ).  I have to be very 
careful to not put more citric acid in then is needed, or it will activate the 
MMS drops I am adding. Maybe I just need to test the pH and make sure that it 
is not under 7. Anyway, that is what I am working on, and will keep everyone 
posted on how thing are going as I try it.

Marshall


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Re: CS>types of Lethicin

[Lin Gregerson]

Sorry...I'm reposting this because the subject line on original post was not 
correct.

Looking for other types of lethicin that can be used to make Lip C.
Please see original post below.  Lin
- Original Message - 
From: "Lin Gregerson" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 5:53 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Liposomal Vitamin C/Lethicin/cats


Is all lethicin from some type of grain?  I got into making the Liposomal 
C primarly to help the cats and kitten in our shelter.  The soy based 
lethicin causes gastric upsets, no matter how small the dose in these 
cats.  They do ok with their regular 250mg doses of ascorbic acid, but not 
the Lip C as of yet.
Are there other options that I could try to make a Liposomal C that will 
work with felines (and dogs)?
I've been taking it without any problems and have done the testing with 
baking soda, so I'm confident in what I'm making.  I just don't think 
anything soy based can be digested by cats.


Any help will be appreciated. Lin

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RE: CS>Lung Cancer

[Thora Rasmusen (Home)]

I use apricot seeds as a prevention, and have done much research.  The
bitter almond is something different, but contains the same compound as the
apricot seeds.

Thora 

-Original Message-
From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 11:42 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Lung Cancer

Perhaps bitter almond can refer to either.  Here are some sites indicating
that bitter almond is an alternative name for apricot seeds:

http://www.asiachi.com/apricotseed.html
http://www.alibaba.com/product-free/10517054/Blanched_Sweet_Bitter_Almond_Ap
ricot_Kernel.html
http://www.made-in-china.com/showroom/txfood/product-detailRAnQUfxTdrkh/Chin
a-Bitter-Almonds-Apricots-Kernels.html

Interestingly all the sites seem to be associated with Chinese or India
sources.

Marshall

Hanneke wrote:
> I have done some searches Marshall but can't seem to find anything 
> about the bitter almond being the apricot kernel.
> Having  about 30 almond  trees,  I have  the sweet almond and bitter 
> almond (best for producing essential oil),  soft and hard shells.
> I do understand that almonds have been subjected to irradiation 
> without the requirement for this process  to be mentioned on the 
> labels but can still be called  raw.
>
> I believe it might be incorrect to say that apricot kernels are the 
> bitter almonds.  Perhaps Jason Vale could  shed some light on this.
>
> Hanneke
>
> At 01:14 AM 2/10/2009, you wrote:
>> It is my understanding that you have to be careful on the apricot 
>> pits ( bitter almonds ) now.  Either California or the FDA started 
>> requiring them to be heated to destroy the enzyme that kills cancer, 
>> so others started advertising that they were raw, which I understand 
>> they are not allowed to do either now.  You may want to talk to the 
>> supplier privately to find out if they are raw or not.  They must be 
>> raw to be of any use.
>>
>> Marshall
>>
>> Carl & Deb wrote:
>>> Hi Deb
>>>
>>> Vitamin B-17, lots of information if you google it (or just buy some 
>>> apricot pits).
>>>
>>> Here's one site...
>>>
>>> http://www.worldwithoutcancer.org.uk/
>>>
>>> Deborah Gerard wrote:
 the leaves are even on Hulda Clarks site...I love this group :)

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 *From:* Melly Bag 
 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Wednesday, September 30, 2009 5:57:01 PM
 *Subject:* Re: CS>Lung Cancer

 google papaya leaves 4 cancer and also Stan Sheldon + papaya leaves

 Melly

 --- On *Wed, 9/30/09, Deborah Gerard //* wrote:


 From: Deborah Gerard 
 Subject: CS>Lung Cancer
 To: "cs" 
 Date: Wednesday, September 30, 2009, 7:05 PM

 I have a 54 year old lady from another group who has sharred she
 has lung cancer. Any and all advice to go after this cancer would
 surely be appreciated by her family,
 thanks deb

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Re: CS>Liposomal Vitamin C

[Peter Converse]

Hi Steve,

I should add that my Lypo-GSH encapsulation does not seem to be as efficient 
a process as with the Lypo-C. There is a small percentage (how much I am not 
certain) of whitish fallout which settles in the bottom of the jar. I am 
assuming that this would be the unencapsulated fraction.


Peter

- Original Message - 
From: "Peter Converse" 

To: "Norton, Steve" ; 
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 8:02 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Liposomal Vitamin C



Hi Steve,

Yes it was.

Peter

- Original Message - 
From: "Norton, Steve" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 6:09 PM
Subject: RE: CS>Liposomal Vitamin C


Peter,
Was your GSH soluble in water?
- Steve N



Peter Converse wrote:

Hi Folks,

I have made several batches of Lypo-C and have consumed various

amounts

ranging from two to fifteen 1.5 oz. doses in a day.

I have learned that best effects may be achieved by first taking

ascorbic
acid or some other buffered form of vit.C to bowel tolerance before 
taking the Lypo-C to achieve best possible saturation.


I purchased the 2.5 liter US cleaner, part # 95563  from Harbor

Freight
and find that using all ingredient volumes multiplied by 3 or 4 will 
produce equally good results. I opted for the larger cleaner to

reduce
the amount of work needed to keep my wife and I in a ready supply of 
product. So far, this seems perfectly adequate for our needs.


I am also using the Now Foods non-GMO soy lecithin as some others are

and

L-ascorbic acid from my local compounding pharmacy, along with

distilled

water. I decant the finished product into mason jars when its ready.

I have dissolved the lecithin on its own first by putting it into a

mason

jar with the room temperature water and shaking it vigorously.
I have also tried using a blender to help speed up the process. This 
works very well but I have wondered if there might have ocurred some 
damage to the integrity of the liposomes.


With the one batch I did make with the blender, I'm not sure if this

was

my imagination (which is entirely possible) but the effects on a

virus I

have been fighting seemed weaker to me.

I have ended up with heating the water beforehand up to around body 
temperature before adding the lecithin. By doing this the emulsifying



process is greatly sped up and much less shaking is needed.

When I take my doses over a long period of time such as an hour and a



half or more I find that my system handles it much better than if I

try

to take fewer and larger doses in less time. The faster I consume it,

the
more pronounced are the side effects of bloating and intestinal 
rumblings. When I've taken ten to fifteen doses within less than 30 
minutes the effects are the most noticeable and annoying.


I chose the former method in hopes of replicating, to some degree,

what

would be ocurring with an IV...a slow drip process that would

introduce

the vit.C in a slow, steady stream.

I have made just one batch with baking soda using a 3:1 ratio of AA

to
baking soda (prior to encapsulation). I will not repeat this! The 
bloating and intestinal theatrics which occurred afterwards,

including

sound effects, was almost unbearable after taking a steady stream of

1.5

oz. doses. I felt like a one-man methane plant! I'll stick to just AA



from now on or possibly calcium ascorbate!

I have also tried making Lypo-GSH by dumping 45 500 mg. capsules into

the

water, in lieu of Vit. C, using a 3X multiplication of all originally



given ingredients except for the vit.C. It seems to work as well as

my

Lypo-C...no miniscus or layering at allfully homogenized.

Blessings,

Peter






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Re: CS>Lung Cancer-Yuca

[Peter Converse]

Hi Garnet,

I love this one too but I think I've read somewhere that it has some type of 
compound in it which can cause some ill effects if eaten in large enough 
quantities regularly, such as if one uses it as a staple food. Maybe someone 
can add to this.


Peter


- Original Message - 
From: "Garnet" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 8:29 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Lung Cancer



I noticed one of my favorite root vegetables is on this list, cassava also
called Yuca - not to be confused with the cactus Yucca.

Cassava is what Tapioca is made from, also high in B15, Pangamic Acid it
is eaten in Cuban cuisine cooked like a french fry it is delicious. It is 
also
made at Christmas as a traditional dish called Yucca con Mojo, with a 
garlic

oil. Yummy.

I discovered it when looking for a potatoes substitute. It spoils easily 
though

and comes heavily waxed. Breaking off a tip to make sure the flesh is pure
white and not moldy is tradition as well.

Local grocery stores carry it here in central Texas.

Garnet


http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_Information

Dr Chris Steele, ITV's This Morning supporting LDN

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpjsDK0LPA


Alan Jones wrote:

BTW, here's a web page which discusses the relative levels of B17 in
different foods:

  http://www.laetrile.com.au/copy.asp?sect=q2&page=foods




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Re: CS> Native American stories--OT

[Melly Bag]

It all boils down to lack of LOVE. If only from childhood we are all taught to 
love everyone dearly, and to overcome hurt, anger and disappointments with 
love, i think the world would not be as it is.
And also if from childhood we were taught not to nurse our PRIDE too much, then 
we would not be where we are now.  PRIDE is the source of all evil while LOVE 
is the source of all goodness.
 
But, this  is difficult and needs  much training and self discipline.
 
Melly
--- On Fri, 10/2/09, Malcolm  wrote:


From: Malcolm 
Subject: Re: CS> Native American stories--OT
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Friday, October 2, 2009, 2:52 AM


I know what you mean.  I'm reminded of a remark I once heard;
"I have two speeds, slow and stop.  If you don't like this one you sure
won't be happy with the other."

On Wed, 2009-09-30 at 20:41 -0700, Sandy wrote:
> Hi Donna...
> 
> It is sad the way some people treat others but if we learn from it [in a good 
> way] then we will teach our children not to be prejudice.
> 
> The man who refused to buy a horse from your Grandfather shows how little he 
> knew because it is a well known fact the Cherokee have a wonderful way with 
> horses.
> 
> I have found that many people do not know how to act around handicapped 
> people...I feel for your daughter. I had a stroke 6 years ago and do not walk 
> very fast and I have had people honk at me to hurry up and get across the the 
> street...they are in such a hurry they could care less that I might have a 
> problem walking. The funny thing is when someone tries to rush me I get 
> excited and go twice as slow...lol.
> 
> Sandy 
> 
> 
> 
> > From: Donna 
> > Subject: Re: CS>  Native American stories--OT
> > To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> > Date: Wednesday, September 30, 2009, 7:39 PM
> > 
> > > Sandy, 
> > 
> > > Glad you shared your story!  It is sad the way
> > people have been so cruel to others.  I know being from
> > Cherokee my Grandfather use to deal with alot of
> > discrimination.  He had a farm and one time a man came
> > looking to buy a horse from my Grandfather but the man ended
> > up not buying it saying he would never trust an Indian and
> > would not pay him a dime for his horse.  I raised my
> > children to be respectful to everyone and not to
> > be   prejudice.  I also have a
> > handicapped daughter and young children would come up to her
> > wheelchair and ask why she can't walk and their parents
> > would pull them away.  I would always try to answer
> > them to let them know.  I feel sorry for these kids
> > that are taught prejudice by their ignorant parents,
> > children are not born that way.
> > 
> > Donna ACS
> > 
> > 
> 
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RE: CS>Alkalizing

[Melly Bag]

Marshall,
 
Also check out the sodium content of baking soda which might affect your wife's 
blood pressure.
 
Melly

--- On Thu, 10/1/09, Lisa  wrote:


From: Lisa 
Subject: RE: CS>Alkalizing
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Thursday, October 1, 2009, 5:13 PM


I'd be interested in getting myself balanced too -- would alkalizing be
similar to getting the body's ph "normal"?

And what is MMS?

Thx.

Lisa

-Original Message-
From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 3:58 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Alkalizing

Well, now that I have gotten my wife off of her high blood pressure 
medicine, and she says she fells better than she has in over a decade, I 
am wanting to do the same for her diabetes medicine.  I am trying to get 
her alkalized and chelated.  For the alkalizing I am adding 1 drop of 
MMS per quart of water in our water tank.  I am looking at adding some 
additional minerals to the water.

Exploring sodium bicarbonate I am concerned that it is strongly alkaline 
when it hits the stomach.  This immediately reacts with the stomach acid 
producing CO2, water and table salt.  This can screw up digestion, and 
long term cause the body to produce excess acid to counteract it.  The 
alkalizing is then done in the blood by the body replacing the HCl 
changing the NaCl in the blood to HCl in the stomach and sodium 
bicarbonate in the blood.  Having to produce extra HCl in an empty 
stomach concerns me, I think it can lead to digestive problems in the 
long term.  Another consideration is that baking soda makes water taste 
pretty bad.

So upon investigating I found that citrates of the alkali metals are 
considered ideal for alkalizing the body.  Potassium citrate, which is 
often used, can lead to electrolyte imbalances, as can magnesium and 
calcium, unless they are balanced in the application.  Sodium citrate 
however is well tolerated by the body, with excessive sodium in the form 
of salt being quickly and easily eliminated by the kidneys.  So I am 
considering adding sodium citrate to my water as well.

Now, it seems that sodium citrate is not readily available locally, but 
can be ordered from soap making suppliers.  However sodium citrate can 
be easily made by adding one mol of citric acid to 3 mols of bicarbonate 
of soda ( 100 grams of citric acid to 85.8 grams of sodium bicarbonate 
).  I have to be very careful to not put more citric acid in then is 
needed, or it will activate the MMS drops I am adding. Maybe I just need 
to test the pH and make sure that it is not under 7. Anyway, that is 
what I am working on, and will keep everyone posted on how thing are 
going as I try it.

Marshall


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Re: CS>DMSO and poke

[Melly Bag]

Dee,
 
Thanks for your concern.  Yes, i took my CS with DMSO as well as oregano oil, 
coconut oil, turmeric powder and moringa tea.  The lymph node is ok now.  Seems 
like i am coming with a cold.  My throat is still a bit stingy.  I think i am 
getting a handle on the code as well. The annoying thing is even the inside of 
my ear hurt, but is also gone now.
 
Melly
--- On Thu, 10/1/09, Dorothy Fitzpatrick  wrote:


From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick 
Subject: Re: CS>DMSO and poke
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Thursday, October 1, 2009, 2:55 PM


Melly I get this and all I do is drink CS every ten or so minutes and they 
subside also within minutes.  Once I had a huge swelling came up around my jaw 
and face, with a big soft swelling inside my cheek.  I kept on drinking the 
silver and all swellings had subsided within two hours, and completely gone in 
four.  dee



On 1 Oct 2009, at 19:21, Melly Bag wrote:






Polo
 
Thanks a nullion.  I might have to use poke weed as my lymph nodes have been 
hurting the past few days.
 
Really grateful for this info.
 
Melly

Re: CS> Native American stories--OT

[Clayton Family]

I agree.

It also boils down to fear. There is so much fearmongering going  
around, it is no wonder people are becoming more afraid of anyone who  
is not "like us".


On Oct 2, 2009, at 8:52 AM, Melly Bag wrote:

It all boils down to lack of LOVE. If only from childhood we are all  
taught to love everyone dearly, and to overcome hurt, anger and  
disappointments with love, i think the world would not be as it is.
And also if from childhood we were taught not to nurse our PRIDE too  
much, then we would not be where we are now.  PRIDE is the source of  
all evil while LOVE is the source of all goodness.


But, this  is difficult and needs  much training and self discipline.

Melly
--- On Fri, 10/2/09, Malcolm  wrote:

From: Malcolm 
Subject: Re: CS> Native American stories--OT
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Friday, October 2, 2009, 2:52 AM

I know what you mean.  I'm reminded of a remark I once heard;
"I have two speeds, slow and stop.  If you don't like this one you  
sure

won't be happy with the other."

On Wed, 2009-09-30 at 20:41 -0700, Sandy wrote:
> Hi Donna...
>
> It is sad the way some people treat others but if we learn from it  
[in a good way] then we will teach our children not to be prejudice.

>
> The man who refused to buy a horse from your Grandfather shows how  
little he knew because it is a well known fact the Cherokee have a  
wonderful way with horses.

>
> I have found that many people do not know how to act around  
handicapped people...I feel for your daughter. I had a stroke 6  
years ago and do not walk very fast and I have had people honk at me  
to hurry up and get across the the street...they are in such a hurry  
they could care less that I might have a problem walking. The funny  
thing is when someone tries to rush me I get excited and go twice as  
slow...lol.

>
> Sandy
>

Re: CS>Lung Cancer-Yuca

[Melly Bag]

Peter,
 
As long as you cook it well, it should not hurt.  When raw it has cyanide.  
There are some varieties that  have very strong cyanide it needs lots of 
soaking when raw and then dried under the sun before taking it to the kitchen.  
I believe the ones we have in the supermarkets here in the US are ok and of 
good variety.  This is a staple food in Africa, so it can't be that bad.
 
Melly
 

 
--- On Fri, 10/2/09, Peter Converse  wrote:


From: Peter Converse 
Subject: Re: CS>Lung Cancer-Yuca
To: "Garnet" , silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Friday, October 2, 2009, 9:46 AM


Hi Garnet,

I love this one too but I think I've read somewhere that it has some type of 
compound in it which can cause some ill effects if eaten in large enough 
quantities regularly, such as if one uses it as a staple food. Maybe someone 
can add to this.

Peter


- Original Message - 
From: "Garnet" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 8:29 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Lung Cancer


>I noticed one of my favorite root vegetables is on this list, cassava also
> called Yuca - not to be confused with the cactus Yucca.
>
> Cassava is what Tapioca is made from, also high in B15, Pangamic Acid it
> is eaten in Cuban cuisine cooked like a french fry it is delicious. It is 
> also
> made at Christmas as a traditional dish called Yucca con Mojo, with a 
> garlic
> oil. Yummy.
>
> I discovered it when looking for a potatoes substitute. It spoils easily 
> though
> and comes heavily waxed. Breaking off a tip to make sure the flesh is pure
> white and not moldy is tradition as well.
>
> Local grocery stores carry it here in central Texas.
>
> Garnet
>
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_Information
>
> Dr Chris Steele, ITV's This Morning supporting LDN
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpjsDK0LPA
>
>
> Alan Jones wrote:
>> BTW, here's a web page which discusses the relative levels of B17 in
>> different foods:
>>
>>   http://www.laetrile.com.au/copy.asp?sect=q2&page=foods
>>
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Re: CS> Native American stories--OT

[Melly Bag]

It  is insecurity at its best because we know some proud, selfish, greedy 
people are out to get the defenseless.  But have no fear, we have a GOD who is 
watching over us if only we turn and pray to not ignore HIM.  Schools were  
made to take away religion so our kids' consciences would be numb and when 
recruited by those in power will not have a conscience to bother them when 
orders are delivered.  See?  They execute without blinking an eyelash!
 
Melly

--- On Fri, 10/2/09, Clayton Family  wrote:


From: Clayton Family 
Subject: Re: CS> Native American stories--OT
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Friday, October 2, 2009, 10:45 AM


I agree.


It also boils down to fear. There is so much fearmongering going around, it is 
no wonder people are becoming more afraid of anyone who is not "like us".




On Oct 2, 2009, at 8:52 AM, Melly Bag wrote:






It all boils down to lack of LOVE. If only from childhood we are all taught to 
love everyone dearly, and to overcome hurt, anger and disappointments with 
love, i think the world would not be as it is.
And also if from childhood we were taught not to nurse our PRIDE too much, then 
we would not be where we are now.  PRIDE is the source of all evil while LOVE 
is the source of all goodness.
 
But, this  is difficult and needs  much training and self discipline.
 
Melly
--- On Fri, 10/2/09, Malcolm  wrote:


From: Malcolm 
Subject: Re: CS> Native American stories--OT
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Friday, October 2, 2009, 2:52 AM


I know what you mean.  I'm reminded of a remark I once heard;
"I have two speeds, slow and stop.  If you don't like this one you sure
won't be happy with the other."

On Wed, 2009-09-30 at 20:41 -0700, Sandy wrote:
> Hi Donna...
> 
> It is sad the way some people treat others but if we learn from it [in a good 
> way] then we will teach our children not to be prejudice.
> 
> The man who refused to buy a horse from your Grandfather shows how little he 
> knew because it is a well known fact the Cherokee have a wonderful way with 
> horses.
> 
> I have found that many people do not know how to act around handicapped 
> people...I feel for your daughter. I had a stroke 6 years ago and do not walk 
> very fast and I have had people honk at me to hurry up and get across the the 
> street...they are in such a hurry they could care less that I might have a 
> problem walking. The funny thing is when someone tries to rush me I get 
> excited and go twice as slow...lol.
> 
> Sandy 
> 

Re: CS>Lung Cancer

[Day Sutton]

You might want to check this out before you ingest anymore cyanide. Just
stick with EIS/CS
http://www.snopes.com/food/warnings/apples.asp


On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 9:29 AM, Thora Rasmusen (Home) <
mugg...@cyberlink.bc.ca> wrote:

> I use apricot seeds as a prevention, and have done much research.  The
> bitter almond is something different, but contains the same compound as the
> apricot seeds.
>
> Thora
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com]
> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 11:42 AM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>Lung Cancer
>
> Perhaps bitter almond can refer to either.  Here are some sites indicating
> that bitter almond is an alternative name for apricot seeds:
>
> http://www.asiachi.com/apricotseed.html
>
> http://www.alibaba.com/product-free/10517054/Blanched_Sweet_Bitter_Almond_Ap
> ricot_Kernel.html
>
> http://www.made-in-china.com/showroom/txfood/product-detailRAnQUfxTdrkh/Chin
> a-Bitter-Almonds-Apricots-Kernels.html
>
> Interestingly all the sites seem to be associated with Chinese or India
> sources.
>
> Marshall
>
> Hanneke wrote:
> > I have done some searches Marshall but can't seem to find anything
> > about the bitter almond being the apricot kernel.
> > Having  about 30 almond  trees,  I have  the sweet almond and bitter
> > almond (best for producing essential oil),  soft and hard shells.
> > I do understand that almonds have been subjected to irradiation
> > without the requirement for this process  to be mentioned on the
> > labels but can still be called  raw.
> >
> > I believe it might be incorrect to say that apricot kernels are the
> > bitter almonds.  Perhaps Jason Vale could  shed some light on this.
> >
> > Hanneke
> >
> > At 01:14 AM 2/10/2009, you wrote:
> >> It is my understanding that you have to be careful on the apricot
> >> pits ( bitter almonds ) now.  Either California or the FDA started
> >> requiring them to be heated to destroy the enzyme that kills cancer,
> >> so others started advertising that they were raw, which I understand
> >> they are not allowed to do either now.  You may want to talk to the
> >> supplier privately to find out if they are raw or not.  They must be
> >> raw to be of any use.
> >>
> >> Marshall
> >>
> >> Carl & Deb wrote:
> >>> Hi Deb
> >>>
> >>> Vitamin B-17, lots of information if you google it (or just buy some
> >>> apricot pits).
> >>>
> >>> Here's one site...
> >>>
> >>> http://www.worldwithoutcancer.org.uk/
> >>>
> >>> Deborah Gerard wrote:
>  the leaves are even on Hulda Clarks site...I love this group :)
> 
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> 
>  *From:* Melly Bag 
>  *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
>  *Sent:* Wednesday, September 30, 2009 5:57:01 PM
>  *Subject:* Re: CS>Lung Cancer
> 
>  google papaya leaves 4 cancer and also Stan Sheldon + papaya leaves
> 
>  Melly
> 
>  --- On *Wed, 9/30/09, Deborah Gerard //* wrote:
> 
> 
>  From: Deborah Gerard 
>  Subject: CS>Lung Cancer
>  To: "cs" 
>  Date: Wednesday, September 30, 2009, 7:05 PM
> 
>  I have a 54 year old lady from another group who has sharred she
>  has lung cancer. Any and all advice to go after this cancer would
>  surely be appreciated by her family,
>  thanks deb
> 
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Re: CS>Alkalizing

[Marshall Dudley]

I was unable to find sodium citrate locally, so I did make my own. 
Turned out to be very easy.


1. Put one level tablespoon of baking soda and citric acid powder each 
in an 8 to 12 ounce glass
2. Add about 2 ounces of water (1/4 full for the 8 oz glass). (if you 
put more than this it might foam over)
3. let foam until it diminishes, then stir. Continue sititing until 
foaming diminishes

4. add another 2 oz of water, that is make an 8 oz glass half full.
5. stir until foaming stops.

You should have near 100% sodium citrate, with a little citric acid left 
over. The water should be crystal clear. If you taste it it should have 
a slightly sour taste.  If you take the pH it should be about 6.5 to 6.8 
or so.  Now add a little baking soda ( 1/4 teaspoon) and stir until 
foaming stops. Continue this until no foaming occurs after adding the 
soda.  (this occurred on the 3rd addition for me) If you taste it it 
should taste salty, but not sour or bitter. If you test the pH it should 
measure between 7.0 and 7.2.


You should have about 1 1/2 tablespoons of sodium citrate now.  To 
alkalize the water, I have been putting one ounce of this solution into 
a gallon of water, actually putting the full amount into my 5 gallon 
container.  If you taste the water after it is added, you can detect a 
slight amount of mineral taste, but it is very slight and not 
objectionable at all, at least to me.


I would highly suggest taking a calcium, magnesium and potassium 
supplement if you are drinking this water to be sure and maintain proper 
electrolyte balance.


BTW, my urine pH when I tested it this morning was between 7.0 and 7.2, 
which is considered optimal, after drinking the water all day yesterday. 
Even my wife, who has had diabetes for 2 decades is testing optimal now. 
Unfortunately I do not have a baseline though since I did not get the 
testing paper until last night.  I would watch my pH very carefully, if 
it gets too alkaline, then you need to use less in your water.


Also I am thinking about using the undiluted solution in place of salt 
when cooking. That would be pretty cool, an alkalizing salt.


Marshall

Marshall Dudley wrote:
Now, it seems that sodium citrate is not readily available locally, 
but can be ordered from soap making suppliers.  However sodium citrate 
can be easily made by adding one mol of citric acid to 3 mols of 
bicarbonate of soda ( 100 grams of citric acid to 85.8 grams of sodium 
bicarbonate ).  I have to be very careful to not put more citric acid 
in then is needed, or it will activate the MMS drops I am adding. 
Maybe I just need to test the pH and make sure that it is not under 7. 
Anyway, that is what I am working on, and will keep everyone posted on 
how thing are going as I try it.


Marshall


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Re: CS>Lung Cancer-Yuca

[Day Sutton]

http://www.snopes.com/food/warnings/apples.asp  (cassava mentioned in this
report)

On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 9:46 AM, Peter Converse  wrote:

> Hi Garnet,
>
> I love this one too but I think I've read somewhere that it has some type
> of compound in it which can cause some ill effects if eaten in large enough
> quantities regularly, such as if one uses it as a staple food. Maybe someone
> can add to this.
>
> Peter
>
>
> - Original Message - From: "Garnet" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 8:29 PM
> Subject: Re: CS>Lung Cancer
>
>
>  I noticed one of my favorite root vegetables is on this list, cassava also
>> called Yuca - not to be confused with the cactus Yucca.
>>
>> Cassava is what Tapioca is made from, also high in B15, Pangamic Acid it
>> is eaten in Cuban cuisine cooked like a french fry it is delicious. It is
>> also
>> made at Christmas as a traditional dish called Yucca con Mojo, with a
>> garlic
>> oil. Yummy.
>>
>> I discovered it when looking for a potatoes substitute. It spoils easily
>> though
>> and comes heavily waxed. Breaking off a tip to make sure the flesh is pure
>> white and not moldy is tradition as well.
>>
>> Local grocery stores carry it here in central Texas.
>>
>> Garnet
>>
>>
>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_Information
>>
>> Dr Chris Steele, ITV's This Morning supporting LDN
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpjsDK0LPA
>>
>>
>> Alan Jones wrote:
>>
>>> BTW, here's a web page which discusses the relative levels of B17 in
>>> different foods:
>>>
>>>  http://www.laetrile.com.au/copy.asp?sect=q2&page=foods
>>>
>>>
>>
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Re: CS>Alkalizing

[Marshall Dudley]

Lisa wrote:

I'd be interested in getting myself balanced too -- would alkalizing be
similar to getting the body's ph "normal"?
  


Yes, since most people are acid, getting it normal requires alkalizing.

And what is MMS?
  
That is a term coined by Humble which means miracle mineral supplement.  
It is a 28% solution of sodium chlorite ( not chloride ), which was very 
popular as a "cure all" on the net about a year ago.  It does have some 
nice properties, killing parasites is one of the things it does best.


Marshall

Thx.

Lisa

-Original Message-
From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 3:58 PM

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Alkalizing

Well, now that I have gotten my wife off of her high blood pressure 
medicine, and she says she fells better than she has in over a decade, I 
am wanting to do the same for her diabetes medicine.  I am trying to get 
her alkalized and chelated.  For the alkalizing I am adding 1 drop of 
MMS per quart of water in our water tank.  I am looking at adding some 
additional minerals to the water.


Exploring sodium bicarbonate I am concerned that it is strongly alkaline 
when it hits the stomach.  This immediately reacts with the stomach acid 
producing CO2, water and table salt.  This can screw up digestion, and 
long term cause the body to produce excess acid to counteract it.  The 
alkalizing is then done in the blood by the body replacing the HCl 
changing the NaCl in the blood to HCl in the stomach and sodium 
bicarbonate in the blood.  Having to produce extra HCl in an empty 
stomach concerns me, I think it can lead to digestive problems in the 
long term.  Another consideration is that baking soda makes water taste 
pretty bad.


So upon investigating I found that citrates of the alkali metals are 
considered ideal for alkalizing the body.  Potassium citrate, which is 
often used, can lead to electrolyte imbalances, as can magnesium and 
calcium, unless they are balanced in the application.  Sodium citrate 
however is well tolerated by the body, with excessive sodium in the form 
of salt being quickly and easily eliminated by the kidneys.  So I am 
considering adding sodium citrate to my water as well.


Now, it seems that sodium citrate is not readily available locally, but 
can be ordered from soap making suppliers.  However sodium citrate can 
be easily made by adding one mol of citric acid to 3 mols of bicarbonate 
of soda ( 100 grams of citric acid to 85.8 grams of sodium bicarbonate 
).  I have to be very careful to not put more citric acid in then is 
needed, or it will activate the MMS drops I am adding. Maybe I just need 
to test the pH and make sure that it is not under 7. Anyway, that is 
what I am working on, and will keep everyone posted on how thing are 
going as I try it.


Marshall


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RE: CS> Was: Lung Cancer; Is: apricot & other pits and cyanide

[Nenah Sylver]

[Day Sutton] You might want to check this out before you ingest anymore
cyanide. Just stick with EIS/CS
http://www.snopes.com/food/warnings/apples.asp





Snopes is becoming more known for its bias against natural health. Moreover,
even some relatively innocuous ratings (on stories unrelated to health or
life-and-death matters) have been known to be improperly researched, or
researched not at all. Thus, Snopes is not as "neutral" as some would
believe and in some instances has actually purveyed the wrong information.
An egroup I belong to recently discussed this in depth with proof, but
currently I cannot locate the info in my files.

 

Anyway (as might be expected), the info about B17 and bitter almonds/apricot
pits etc. has not been properly understood or presented by the media. G.
Edward Griffin does a great job of explaining B17, laetrile, and related
issues in his book World Without Cancer.

 

Griffin points out that the unlocking of the cyanide molecule in B17-a
vitamin present in bitter almonds, and the pits of apricots, plums, peaches,
and other botanically similar fruits-takes place in a number of chemical
steps. Moreover, the cyanide is harmful only to those cells you want to
kill. The following is from Griffin's book, pages 89-90. I have converted
the italics in the book to all capital letters in the quoted passage below.

 

"Fortunately, the unlocking enzyme [the enzyme that releases the cyanide in
these kernels] is not found to any dangerous degree anywhere in the body
EXCEPT AT THE CANCER CELL, where it always is present in great quantity,
sometimes at levels in excess of one-hundred times that of the surrounding
normal cells. The result is that vitamin B17 is unlocked at the cancer cell,
releases its poisons to the cancer cell, and ONLY TO THE CANCER CELL. . . .
The non-cancerous organs. . . are endowed by nature with the unique capacity
of protecting themselves and even nourishing themselves from the digestion
of the B17 molecule, whereas cancerous tissue converts the same vitamin
substance into powerful toxins against which it has no defense."

 

I have excerpted only a couple of paragraphs from pages of info on B17 in
Griffin's book. However, you can find information on the web at:
http://www.worldwithoutcancer.org.uk/faq.html  

 

Hopefully, this will put to rest some of the misinformation about B17,
cyanide, and the bitter pits of certain fruits. I eat apples almost every
day (organic, green). I always break open the pits and eat the inner white
part, which I find delicious. So far I'm still here  ;-)

 

Nenah

 

Nenah Sylver, PhD

author: The Rife Handbook of Frequency Therapy (2009),

now available in HARDCOVER

& The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy

  www.nenahsylver.com 

Re: CS> Native American stories--OT

[Marshall Dudley]

zoe w wrote:
I am so sorry you had to experience this.  In my observations across 
the country  anywhere you go in Tennessee  seems to be this way.   
Please don't judge the rest of our beautiful country  by this 
yardstick.My apologies to any  Tennesseeans here who do not fit 
this pattern, this was my observation  based on a cross country  bus 
tour  a couple years ago.I simply could not believe how  different 
things are in that  state.


I am Tennessean and definitely do not feel that way.  In fact I research 
material from a number of different tribes, primarily Hopi and Mayan, 
due to their rich heritage and "stories".  I am very interested in 
shamanism of any tribe.  I have even attended dancing and drumming 
ceremonies, and tried to go to a sweat lodge, but my wife objected. The 
energies are wonderful.


There will always be individuals  who harbor  resentment  and 
animosity,  but mostly  they will keep it to themselves  these days.  
We can perhaps have some control over how people act in public,  but 
we cannot govern  what they think.It would be wonderful  if there 
were some magic pill or elixir that would make this all go away.
I have at one time or another lived in just about  every  area  in 
this land  except for the great  Northwest.   In most of these areas  
great progress has been made  not only towards  blacks  and indians 
but other minorities  as well.   Even so ,  one will always encounter  
certain individuals  who carry on the old  hateful ways.   Perhaps  in 
another 500 yrs  or so.  Its really  seems  kind of 
ridiculous  these days  when most of us  are  a  conglomeration  of 
many many cultures.   It is time  to  show  not tolerance,  but 
acceptance and understanding.




You may find with the changes coming, that will be changed by 2013. I 
sure hope so.


Marshall



My 2 cents worth.

zoe

Evans, Antonio F. wrote:
 Greetings all, my heritage includes Blackfoot Native Americans from 
a reservation at one point in South Carolina, Barbados descendants 
after slavery (Maternal side) and Colombian Natives, Panamanian 
Natives and Jamaican descendants from South America (Paternal side), 
I pass for a small deep brown skin African American male. I was just 
in Chattanooga Tennessee and the hate I felt from Caucasian men 
young, middle age and elderly was beyond belief in 2009. You could 
just feel hate in their stares and blocking our car from the gas 
pump. A young Caucasian male would not allow my friend, who is half 
Caucasian and African American, he could pass for a 6'2 moroccon 
Arab. We needed to fuel the car to head back to Washington DC, after 
visiting his Caucasian mother who works in the Alexian retirement 
Center in the mountains of Chattanooga, such a beautiful place with 
hatefulness all around, did I miss something or should this still be 
expected? Pardon my description just painting a mental picture for 
you all, I wish CS mixed with DMSO could harmonize this issue with 
some of the American family


A. Evans/ Nanya Nufushu EL

  




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Re: CS> Native American stories--OT

[zoe w]

Good for you Marshall,  hopefully there are enuf others like you to 
change your states
reputation amongst those of us who came smack up against the  other 
side.  For some reason  it seems  the negative elements are often the 
most visible.


zoe

Marshall Dudley wrote:

zoe w wrote:
I am so sorry you had to experience this.  In my observations across 
the country  anywhere you go in Tennessee  seems to be this way.   
Please don't judge the rest of our beautiful country  by this 
yardstick.My apologies to any  Tennesseeans here who do not fit 
this pattern, this was my observation  based on a cross country  bus 
tour  a couple years ago.I simply could not believe how  
different things are in that  state.


I am Tennessean and definitely do not feel that way.  In fact I 
research material from a number of different tribes, primarily Hopi 
and Mayan, due to their rich heritage and "stories".  I am very 
interested in shamanism of any tribe.  I have even attended dancing 
and drumming ceremonies, and tried to go to a sweat lodge, but my wife 
objected. The energies are wonderful.


There will always be individuals  who harbor  resentment  and 
animosity,  but mostly  they will keep it to themselves  these days.  
We can perhaps have some control over how people act in public,  but 
we cannot govern  what they think.It would be wonderful  if there 
were some magic pill or elixir that would make this all go away.
I have at one time or another lived in just about  every  area  in 
this land  except for the great  Northwest.   In most of these areas  
great progress has been made  not only towards  blacks  and indians 
but other minorities  as well.   Even so ,  one will always 
encounter  certain individuals  who carry on the old  hateful ways.   
Perhaps  in another 500 yrs  or so.  Its really  seems  
kind of ridiculous  these days  when most of us  are  a  
conglomeration  of many many cultures.   It is time  to  show  not 
tolerance,  but acceptance and understanding.




You may find with the changes coming, that will be changed by 2013. I 
sure hope so.


Marshall



My 2 cents worth.

zoe

Evans, Antonio F. wrote:
 Greetings all, my heritage includes Blackfoot Native Americans from 
a reservation at one point in South Carolina, Barbados descendants 
after slavery (Maternal side) and Colombian Natives, Panamanian 
Natives and Jamaican descendants from South America (Paternal side), 
I pass for a small deep brown skin African American male. I was just 
in Chattanooga Tennessee and the hate I felt from Caucasian men 
young, middle age and elderly was beyond belief in 2009. You could 
just feel hate in their stares and blocking our car from the gas 
pump. A young Caucasian male would not allow my friend, who is half 
Caucasian and African American, he could pass for a 6'2 moroccon 
Arab. We needed to fuel the car to head back to Washington DC, after 
visiting his Caucasian mother who works in the Alexian retirement 
Center in the mountains of Chattanooga, such a beautiful place with 
hatefulness all around, did I miss something or should this still be 
expected? Pardon my description just painting a mental picture for 
you all, I wish CS mixed with DMSO could harmonize this issue with 
some of the American family


A. Evans/ Nanya Nufushu EL

  





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Re: CS>Lung Cancer

[Donna]

Where do you get the apricot seeds and how do you go about taking them 
and how much?

Thanks,
Donna ACS


I use apricot seeds as a prevention, and have done much research.  The
bitter almond is something different, but contains the same compound as the
apricot seeds.

Thora 


-Original Message-
From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 11:42 AM

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Lung Cancer

Perhaps bitter almond can refer to either.  Here are some sites indicating
that bitter almond is an alternative name for apricot seeds:

http://www.asiachi.com/apricotseed.html
http://www.alibaba.com/product-free/10517054/Blanched_Sweet_Bitter_Almond_Ap
ricot_Kernel.html
http://www.made-in-china.com/showroom/txfood/product-detailRAnQUfxTdrkh/Chin
a-Bitter-Almonds-Apricots-Kernels.html

Interestingly all the sites seem to be associated with Chinese or India
sources.

Marshall

Hanneke wrote:
  
I have done some searches Marshall but can't seem to find anything 
about the bitter almond being the apricot kernel.
Having  about 30 almond  trees,  I have  the sweet almond and bitter 
almond (best for producing essential oil),  soft and hard shells.
I do understand that almonds have been subjected to irradiation 
without the requirement for this process  to be mentioned on the 
labels but can still be called  raw.


I believe it might be incorrect to say that apricot kernels are the 
bitter almonds.  Perhaps Jason Vale could  shed some light on this.


Hanneke

At 01:14 AM 2/10/2009, you wrote:

It is my understanding that you have to be careful on the apricot 
pits ( bitter almonds ) now.  Either California or the FDA started 
requiring them to be heated to destroy the enzyme that kills cancer, 
so others started advertising that they were raw, which I understand 
they are not allowed to do either now.  You may want to talk to the 
supplier privately to find out if they are raw or not.  They must be 
raw to be of any use.


Marshall

Carl & Deb wrote:
  

Hi Deb

Vitamin B-17, lots of information if you google it (or just buy some 
apricot pits).


Here's one site...

http://www.worldwithoutcancer.org.uk/

Deborah Gerard wrote:


the leaves are even on Hulda Clarks site...I love this group :)

---
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*From:* Melly Bag 
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Wednesday, September 30, 2009 5:57:01 PM
*Subject:* Re: CS>Lung Cancer

google papaya leaves 4 cancer and also Stan Sheldon + papaya leaves

Melly

--- On *Wed, 9/30/09, Deborah Gerard //* wrote:


From: Deborah Gerard 
Subject: CS>Lung Cancer
To: "cs" 
Date: Wednesday, September 30, 2009, 7:05 PM

I have a 54 year old lady from another group who has sharred she
has lung cancer. Any and all advice to go after this cancer would
surely be appreciated by her family,
thanks deb

  

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Re: CS> Was: Lung Cancer; Is: apricot & other pits and cyanide

[Alan Jones]

I haven't read Griffin's book, but the video's available on Google
videos, search for "World Without Cancer".  It's terrific.

Alan

On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 11:00 AM, Nenah Sylver  wrote:
>
>
> Anyway (as might be expected), the info about B17 and bitter almonds/apricot
> pits etc. has not been properly understood or presented by the media. G.
> Edward Griffin does a great job of explaining B17, laetrile, and related
> issues in his book World Without Cancer.
>
>
>
> Griffin points out that the unlocking of the cyanide molecule in B17—a
> vitamin present in bitter almonds, and the pits of apricots, plums, peaches,
> and other botanically similar fruits—takes place in a number of chemical
> steps. Moreover, the cyanide is harmful only to those cells you want to
> kill. The following is from Griffin’s book, pages 89-90. I have converted
> the italics in the book to all capital letters in the quoted passage below.
>
>
>
> “Fortunately, the unlocking enzyme [the enzyme that releases the cyanide in
> these kernels] is not found to any dangerous degree anywhere in the body
> EXCEPT AT THE CANCER CELL, where it always is present in great quantity,
> sometimes at levels in excess of one-hundred times that of the surrounding
> normal cells. The result is that vitamin B17 is unlocked at the cancer cell,
> releases its poisons to the cancer cell, and ONLY TO THE CANCER CELL. . . .
> The non-cancerous organs. . . are endowed by nature with the unique capacity
> of protecting themselves and even nourishing themselves from the digestion
> of the B17 molecule, whereas cancerous tissue converts the same vitamin
> substance into powerful toxins against which it has no defense.”
>
>
>
> I have excerpted only a couple of paragraphs from pages of info on B17 in
> Griffin’s book. However, you can find information on the web at:
>  http://www.worldwithoutcancer.org.uk/faq.html
>
>
>
> Hopefully, this will put to rest some of the misinformation about B17,
> cyanide, and the bitter pits of certain fruits. I eat apples almost every
> day (organic, green). I always break open the pits and eat the inner white
> part, which I find delicious. So far I’m still here  ;-)
>
>
>
> Nenah
>
>
>
> Nenah Sylver, PhD
>
> author: The Rife Handbook of Frequency Therapy (2009),
>
> now available in HARDCOVER
>
> & The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy
>
> www.nenahsylver.com



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Re: CS> Native American stories--OT

[ATOMICSILVER]

Hi Marshall, any good Mayan stories to share ? I am living in the  
Mayan Mountains ( Belize ) and am working with the Maya every  
day .amazing people ! thanks Richard

On 02/10/2009, at 10:01, Marshall Dudley wrote:


zoe w wrote:
I am so sorry you had to experience this.  In my observations  
across the country  anywhere you go in Tennessee  seems to be this  
way.   Please don't judge the rest of our beautiful country  by  
this yardstick.My apologies to any  Tennesseeans here who do  
not fit this pattern, this was my observation  based on a cross  
country  bus tour  a couple years ago.I simply could not  
believe how  different things are in that  state.


I am Tennessean and definitely do not feel that way.  In fact I  
research material from a number of different tribes, primarily Hopi  
and Mayan, due to their rich heritage and "stories".  I am very  
interested in shamanism of any tribe.  I have even attended dancing  
and drumming ceremonies, and tried to go to a sweat lodge, but my  
wife objected. The energies are wonderful.


There will always be individuals  who harbor  resentment  and  
animosity,  but mostly  they will keep it to themselves  these  
days.  We can perhaps have some control over how people act in  
public,  but we cannot govern  what they think.It would be  
wonderful  if there were some magic pill or elixir that would make  
this all go away.
I have at one time or another lived in just about  every  area  in  
this land  except for the great  Northwest.   In most of these  
areas  great progress has been made  not only towards  blacks  and  
indians but other minorities  as well.   Even so ,  one will always  
encounter  certain individuals  who carry on the old  hateful  
ways.   Perhaps  in another 500 yrs  or so.  Its  
really  seems  kind of ridiculous  these days  when most of us   
are  a  conglomeration  of many many cultures.   It is time  to   
show  not tolerance,  but acceptance and understanding.




You may find with the changes coming, that will be changed by 2013.  
I sure hope so.


Marshall



My 2 cents worth.

zoe

Evans, Antonio F. wrote:
Greetings all, my heritage includes Blackfoot Native Americans  
from a reservation at one point in South Carolina, Barbados  
descendants after slavery (Maternal side) and Colombian Natives,  
Panamanian Natives and Jamaican descendants from South America  
(Paternal side), I pass for a small deep brown skin African  
American male. I was just in Chattanooga Tennessee and the hate I  
felt from Caucasian men young, middle age and elderly was beyond  
belief in 2009. You could just feel hate in their stares and  
blocking our car from the gas pump. A young Caucasian male would  
not allow my friend, who is half Caucasian and African American,  
he could pass for a 6'2 moroccon Arab. We needed to fuel the car  
to head back to Washington DC, after visiting his Caucasian mother  
who works in the Alexian retirement Center in the mountains of  
Chattanooga, such a beautiful place with hatefulness all around,  
did I miss something or should this still be expected? Pardon my  
description just painting a mental picture for you all, I wish CS  
mixed with DMSO could harmonize this issue with some of the  
American family


A. Evans/ Nanya Nufushu EL






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Re: CS>Lung Cancer - B17 - Apricot Pit Source

[Del at Dri-Wash]

http://www.apricotpower.com   is source.

Dosage information: 
http://www.worldwithoutcancer.org.uk/FINALGUIDEUKpdfEbook.pdf  

Apricot pits (B-17) is not a silver bullet.   To be affective you need to use a 
protocol similar to that contained in the guide above.   If you're eating 
healthy and follow the protocol it will work.I Know

Del



- Original Message - 
From: "Donna" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 10:36 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Lung Cancer


> Where do you get the apricot seeds and how do you go about taking them 
> and how much?
> Thanks,
> Donna ACS
> 
>> I use apricot seeds as a prevention, and have done much research.  The
>> bitter almond is something different, but contains the same compound as the
>> apricot seeds.
>>
>> Thora 
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] 
>> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 11:42 AM
>> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>> Subject: Re: CS>Lung Cancer
>>
>> Perhaps bitter almond can refer to either.  Here are some sites indicating
>> that bitter almond is an alternative name for apricot seeds:
>>
>> http://www.asiachi.com/apricotseed.html
>> http://www.alibaba.com/product-free/10517054/Blanched_Sweet_Bitter_Almond_Ap
>> ricot_Kernel.html
>> http://www.made-in-china.com/showroom/txfood/product-detailRAnQUfxTdrkh/Chin
>> a-Bitter-Almonds-Apricots-Kernels.html
>>
>> Interestingly all the sites seem to be associated with Chinese or India
>> sources.
>>
>> Marshall
>>
>> Hanneke wrote:
>>   
>>> I have done some searches Marshall but can't seem to find anything 
>>> about the bitter almond being the apricot kernel.
>>> Having  about 30 almond  trees,  I have  the sweet almond and bitter 
>>> almond (best for producing essential oil),  soft and hard shells.
>>> I do understand that almonds have been subjected to irradiation 
>>> without the requirement for this process  to be mentioned on the 
>>> labels but can still be called  raw.
>>>
>>> I believe it might be incorrect to say that apricot kernels are the 
>>> bitter almonds.  Perhaps Jason Vale could  shed some light on this.
>>>
>>> Hanneke
>>>
>>> At 01:14 AM 2/10/2009, you wrote:
>>> 
 It is my understanding that you have to be careful on the apricot 
 pits ( bitter almonds ) now.  Either California or the FDA started 
 requiring them to be heated to destroy the enzyme that kills cancer, 
 so others started advertising that they were raw, which I understand 
 they are not allowed to do either now.  You may want to talk to the 
 supplier privately to find out if they are raw or not.  They must be 
 raw to be of any use.

 Marshall

 Carl & Deb wrote:
   
> Hi Deb
>
> Vitamin B-17, lots of information if you google it (or just buy some 
> apricot pits).
>
> Here's one site...
>
> http://www.worldwithoutcancer.org.uk/
>
> Deborah Gerard wrote:
> 
>> the leaves are even on Hulda Clarks site...I love this group :)
>>
>> ---
>> -
>>
>> *From:* Melly Bag 
>> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 30, 2009 5:57:01 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: CS>Lung Cancer
>>
>> google papaya leaves 4 cancer and also Stan Sheldon + papaya leaves
>>
>> Melly
>>
>> --- On *Wed, 9/30/09, Deborah Gerard //* wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Deborah Gerard 
>> Subject: CS>Lung Cancer
>> To: "cs" 
>> Date: Wednesday, September 30, 2009, 7:05 PM
>>
>> I have a 54 year old lady from another group who has sharred she
>> has lung cancer. Any and all advice to go after this cancer would
>> surely be appreciated by her family,
>> thanks deb
>>
>>   
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Re: CS>OT and borax ( fleas? ants!)

[Marshall Dudley]

Will fire ants take it?

Marshall

Malcolm wrote:

Hi, I don't know about boron, the element, but borax is definitely
deadly to ants of various persuasions that live around my area, from
sugar ants to leaf-miners with a few big ol' meanies in-between.

Apparently it tastes like sugar to them (though who figured that out I
dunno?)  They take it back to the nest where it wipes out the entire
colony.

I've never had to band it around the house or garden - as a matter of
fact I'd think rain would dissolve it? -  I just put it where they are
coming and going, with something overhead to keep the rain and dew off
if necessary - and they do the rest.

Take care,
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CS>Help! asthma, again

[Gina Moore]

So, my daughter is having yet another asthma attack.  The last couple she’s
had, I was able to fend off with nebulizing silver and giving her ½ a cup or
more a day in her drinks.  This one isn’t responding to the silver.  I have
Xeopenex and Budesonide… should I give her that too?  Or should we just head
to the hospital?  She retracting pretty bad, although I have seen her be
much worse.  I’m at that point where I want to do what’s best for her, but I
don’t really want to put her in the stupid hospital.  Ugh…

 

Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

Gina

 

Re: CS>Alkalizing

[Marshall Dudley]

Sodium affects blood pressure of a minority of people, one out of 5, or 
something like that. We check her pressure several times a day, and it 
is typically running 115/65 with no meds now.  So even if it bumped it 
by 5 or 10 mm, it would not be a concern.


Marshall

Melly Bag wrote:

Marshall,
 
Also check out the sodium content of baking soda which might affect 
your wife's blood pressure.
 
Melly


--- On *Thu, 10/1/09, Lisa //* wrote:


From: Lisa 
Subject: RE: CS>Alkalizing
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Thursday, October 1, 2009, 5:13 PM

I'd be interested in getting myself balanced too -- would
alkalizing be
similar to getting the body's ph "normal"?

And what is MMS?

Thx.

Lisa

-Original Message-
From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com
]
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 3:58 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com

Subject: CS>Alkalizing

Well, now that I have gotten my wife off of her high blood pressure
medicine, and she says she fells better than she has in over a
decade, I
am wanting to do the same for her diabetes medicine.  I am trying
to get
her alkalized and chelated.  For the alkalizing I am adding 1 drop of
MMS per quart of water in our water tank.  I am looking at adding
some
additional minerals to the water.

Exploring sodium bicarbonate I am concerned that it is strongly
alkaline
when it hits the stomach.  This immediately reacts with the
stomach acid
producing CO2, water and table salt.  This can screw up digestion,
and
long term cause the body to produce excess acid to counteract it. 
The

alkalizing is then done in the blood by the body replacing the HCl
changing the NaCl in the blood to HCl in the stomach and sodium
bicarbonate in the blood.  Having to produce extra HCl in an empty
stomach concerns me, I think it can lead to digestive problems in the
long term.  Another consideration is that baking soda makes water
taste
pretty bad.

So upon investigating I found that citrates of the alkali metals are
considered ideal for alkalizing the body.  Potassium citrate,
which is
often used, can lead to electrolyte imbalances, as can magnesium and
calcium, unless they are balanced in the application.  Sodium citrate
however is well tolerated by the body, with excessive sodium in
the form
of salt being quickly and easily eliminated by the kidneys.  So I am
considering adding sodium citrate to my water as well.

Now, it seems that sodium citrate is not readily available
locally, but
can be ordered from soap making suppliers.  However sodium citrate
can
be easily made by adding one mol of citric acid to 3 mols of
bicarbonate
of soda ( 100 grams of citric acid to 85.8 grams of sodium
bicarbonate
).  I have to be very careful to not put more citric acid in then is
needed, or it will activate the MMS drops I am adding. Maybe I
just need
to test the pH and make sure that it is not under 7. Anyway, that is
what I am working on, and will keep everyone posted on how thing are
going as I try it.

Marshall


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Re: CS>CS for Equine sweet itch

[Garnet]

Maybe the standard tests are not sufficient. Tapeworms often 
don't show up either.


Go to www.pubmed.com and search < Onchocerca +horses >
You will find many publications.

Garnet


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Dianne France wrote:

Garnet
Why don't these worms show up in cultures? 
Dianne
 
 > Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 09:01:44 -0500

 > From: gar...@grandecom.net
 > To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 > Subject: Re: CS>CS for Equine sweet itch
 >
 > If he has it in his mane and on his tail head it is allergy
 > to the bite of the
 > cuculoides midge. Other skin problems are associated, such
 > as a tendency
 > to get rain rot.This midge is a carrier of Onchocerca. a
 > worm that some horses
 > are allergic to. The main problem is the immature stage of
 > the Onchocerca
 > called filariads.
 >
 > Onchoceriasis is a cause of Uveitis, Moon blindness, in
 > horses and humans
 > when the migrating filariads enter the eye and cause an
 > autoimmune inflammation
 > that often results in blindness with no cause ever being
 > detected. It is more
 > commonly a cause of blindness in third world countries
 > although I am told
 > by a vet opthamologist at Texas A&M that it just goes
 > unrecognized in
 > humans in the US.
 >
 > Generally it takes until at least 7 years of age for this
 > syndrome to manifest to
 > a severe degree. It is worse in the spring and summer,
 > better in the winter due
 > to the midge dying off. I had a mare who I bought at age 7
 > who declined for
 > the next four years and was seen by many vets until I found
 > one who recognized
 > the syndrome, he was an older man and very knowledgeable. He
 > said many
 > practitioners did not know this syndrome and would give
 > steroids for the skin
 > condition.
 >
 > The load of the worm builds over a period of years even with
 > regular worming
 > at two month intervals. Often to a systemic reaction with
 > sores breaking out on
 > the belly, flanks, face and shoulders. The belly especially
 > can then end up with
 > fungal infections as secondary opportunists. Often the skin
 > develops wrinkles
 > over the shoulder from the inflammation.
 >
 > You want to kill the filariads slowly and interrupt the
 > short live cycle initially to
 > knock the numbers back. To do this give half doses of
 > Ivermectin every two
 > weeks for four doses, then every three weeks for four
 > doses, then a full dose once a month or a daily wormer. Some
 > horses that
 > go untreated end up on steroids which further suppress their
 > immunity and
 > then as they decline in health they succumb to something
 > like the flu.
 >
 > The allergic reaction to the midge bites may be due to a
 > load of Onchocerca
 > worms causing a generalized immune reaction. Worming every 8
 > weeks is not
 > enough to control the population of filariads from building
 > to a critical level.
 > The sores on the skin that develop in certain areas are
 > groups of the migrating
 > filariads. One vet actually told me the sores on my mare's
 > flanks were Cancer!
 > I knew this was not true as she was biting at her flanks
 > every spring and the
 > sores went away in the winter.
 >
 > Once the heavy load of filariads is brought under control
 > worming using the half
 > doses of Ivermectin a maintenance schedule of once a month
 > will interrupt the
 > cycle and restore immune health. Keep him on a once a month
 > schedule year
 > round.
 >
 > CS will help control the skin condition but you must treat
 > the cause to make any
 > real progress. I have also used Sugardine on the skin, which
 > is Betadine ointment
 > mixed with table sugar to the consistency of runny peanut
 > butter, it will thicken
 > over night as the sugar swells. It is effective against
 > fungal infections of the skin
 > and will stay on longer than CS.
 >
 > Garnet
 >
 > Misc. IP Group wrote:
 > > Hi anybody used CS for equine sweet itch or any other recommendations?
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > > Have a stallion who is suffering terribly and if any part of his
 > > body is exposed he’s bitten badly and now has scabs and open wound
 > > in those places. Tried fly sprays, sweet itch blankets etc but
 > > still to no avail.
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > > Was wondering if spraying CS would help or if it needs to be
 > > combined with something to 1) help heal the wounds and b) strengthen
 > > his system to be able to fight the sweet itch naturally.
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > > Many thanks
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > > Peter
 > >
 >
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Re: CS>CS for Equine sweet itch

[Garnet]

In these two studies they used skin biopsies.

Am J Vet Res. 1988 Sep;49(9):1550-4.Links
Efficacy of ivermectin in paste and injectable formulations 
against microfilariae of Onchocerca cervicalis and 
resolution of associated dermatitis in horses.


French DD, Klei TM, Foil CS, Miller RI, Foil LD, Chapman MR, 
McClure JJ.
Department of Veterinary Science, Louisiana Agricultural 
Experiment Station, Louisiana State University Agricultural 
Center, Baton Rouge 70803-6002.
The efficacy of a single dose of ivermectin (0.2 mg/kg), in 
injectable or paste formulations, against microfilariae of 
Onchocerca cervicalis and associated skin lesions was 
evaluated in 20 naturally infected horses during midsummer 
months in Louisiana. All horses had clinical signs of 
dermatitis of the ventral midline and/or limbs, shoulders, 
thorax, and withers. Efficacy was monitored at 21, 42, and 
63 days after treatment. Procedures done at these intervals 
included microfilarial counts of 6-mm skin biopsy specimens 
of affected ventral midline, grading of gross lesions, and 
photography and histologic assessment of ventral midline 
biopsy specimens. Microfilarial numbers were reduced to 0 by 
21 days after treatment in all but one horse. Active lesions 
improved or were resolved completely by 63 days after 
treatment. Total inflammation, as judged by histologic 
methods, was reduced in all horses by 63 days after 
treatment, but there was a residual population of 
inflammatory cells in all horses. Adverse reactions after 
treatment were not observed in any of the horses.

PMID: 3223664 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

===

 J Parasitol. 1995 Feb;81(1):117-8.Links
Efficacy of moxidectin oral gel against Onchocerca 
cervicalis microfilariae.


Monahan CM, Chapman MR, French DD, Klei TR.
Department of Veterinary Microbiology and Parasitology, 
School of Veterinary Medicine, Louisiana State University, 
Baton Rouge.
During a series of dose-titration experiments designed to 
evaluate the efficacy of moxidectin oral gel against equine 
gastrointestinal parasites, infection with Onchocerca 
cervicalis was diagnosed in 25 of 82 ponies prior to 
treatment. Microfilariae were identified in full-thickness 
skin biopsies taken from the ventral midline. Treatment with 
moxidectin in single doses of 300, 400, or 500 micrograms/kg 
of body weight was 100% effective in eliminating 
microfilariae from 20 skin biopsies taken 14 days 
posttreatment, whereas 5 microfilaria-positive ponies in 2 
control groups remained positive following placebo 
treatment. No adverse reaction was seen in any pony 
following treatment with moxidectin or the vehicle control.

PMID: 7876966 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]


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Dianne France wrote:

Garnet
Why don't these worms show up in cultures? 
Dianne
 
 > Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 09:01:44 -0500

 > From: gar...@grandecom.net
 > To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 > Subject: Re: CS>CS for Equine sweet itch
 >
 > If he has it in his mane and on his tail head it is allergy
 > to the bite of the
 > cuculoides midge. Other skin problems are associated, such
 > as a tendency
 > to get rain rot.This midge is a carrier of Onchocerca. a
 > worm that some horses
 > are allergic to. The main problem is the immature stage of
 > the Onchocerca
 > called filariads.
 >
 > Onchoceriasis is a cause of Uveitis, Moon blindness, in
 > horses and humans
 > when the migrating filariads enter the eye and cause an
 > autoimmune inflammation
 > that often results in blindness with no cause ever being
 > detected. It is more
 > commonly a cause of blindness in third world countries
 > although I am told
 > by a vet opthamologist at Texas A&M that it just goes
 > unrecognized in
 > humans in the US.
 >
 > Generally it takes until at least 7 years of age for this
 > syndrome to manifest to
 > a severe degree. It is worse in the spring and summer,
 > better in the winter due
 > to the midge dying off. I had a mare who I bought at age 7
 > who declined for
 > the next four years and was seen by many vets until I found
 > one who recognized
 > the syndrome, he was an older man and very knowledgeable. He
 > said many
 > practitioners did not know this syndrome and would give
 > steroids for the skin
 > condition.
 >
 > The load of the worm builds over a period of years even with
 > regular worming
 > at two month intervals. Often to a systemic reaction with
 > sores breaking out on
 > the belly, flanks, face and shoulders. The belly especially
 > can then end up with
 > fungal infections as secondary opportunists. Often the skin
 > develops wrinkles
 > over the shoulder from the inflammation.
 >
 > You want to kill the filariads slowly and interrupt the
 > short live cycle initially to
 > knock the numbers back. To do this give half doses of
 > Ivermectin every two
 > weeks for four doses, then 

Re: CS> Native American stories--OT

[Peter Converse]

amen to that Melly!...2nd Chronicles 7:14

Peter
  - Original Message - 
  From: Melly Bag 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 11:15 AM
  Subject: Re: CS> Native American stories--OT


It  is insecurity at its best because we know some proud, selfish, 
greedy people are out to get the defenseless.  But have no fear, we have a GOD 
who is watching over us if only we turn and pray to not ignore HIM.  Schools 
were  made to take away religion so our kids' consciences would be numb and 
when recruited by those in power will not have a conscience to bother them when 
orders are delivered.  See?  They execute without blinking an eyelash!

Melly

--- On Fri, 10/2/09, Clayton Family  wrote:


  From: Clayton Family 
  Subject: Re: CS> Native American stories--OT
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Date: Friday, October 2, 2009, 10:45 AM


  I agree. 


  It also boils down to fear. There is so much fearmongering going 
around, it is no wonder people are becoming more afraid of anyone who is not 
"like us".



  On Oct 2, 2009, at 8:52 AM, Melly Bag wrote:


  It all boils down to lack of LOVE. If only from childhood we 
are all taught to love everyone dearly, and to overcome hurt, anger and 
disappointments with love, i think the world would not be as it is.
  And also if from childhood we were taught not to nurse our 
PRIDE too much, then we would not be where we are now.  PRIDE is the source of 
all evil while LOVE is the source of all goodness.

  But, this  is difficult and needs  much training and self 
discipline.

  Melly
  --- On Fri, 10/2/09, Malcolm  wrote:


From: Malcolm 
Subject: Re: CS> Native American stories--OT
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Friday, October 2, 2009, 2:52 AM


I know what you mean.  I'm reminded of a remark I once 
heard;
"I have two speeds, slow and stop.  If you don't like this 
one you sure
won't be happy with the other."

On Wed, 2009-09-30 at 20:41 -0700, Sandy wrote:
> Hi Donna...
> 
> It is sad the way some people treat others but if we 
learn from it [in a good way] then we will teach our children not to be 
prejudice.
> 
> The man who refused to buy a horse from your Grandfather 
shows how little he knew because it is a well known fact the Cherokee have a 
wonderful way with horses.
> 
> I have found that many people do not know how to act 
around handicapped people...I feel for your daughter. I had a stroke 6 years 
ago and do not walk very fast and I have had people honk at me to hurry up and 
get across the the street...they are in such a hurry they could care less that 
I might have a problem walking. The funny thing is when someone tries to rush 
me I get excited and go twice as slow...lol.
> 
> Sandy 
>  
   

Re: CS>OT and borax ( fleas? ants!)

[Clayton Family]

Good Question. I know the ants around here will take it if I mix it  
with a little sugar first, and dampen it. I did that one year when we  
had some carpenter ants wandering around the kitchen. It worked very  
well.


We used to use boric acid for roaches back when we lived around the  
orange groves.



On Oct 2, 2009, at 12:18 PM, Marshall Dudley wrote:


Will fire ants take it?

Marshall

Malcolm wrote:

Hi, I don't know about boron, the element, but borax is definitely
deadly to ants of various persuasions that live around my area, from
sugar ants to leaf-miners with a few big ol' meanies in-between.

Apparently it tastes like sugar to them (though who figured that  
out I

dunno?)  They take it back to the nest where it wipes out the entire
colony.

I've never had to band it around the house or garden - as a matter of
fact I'd think rain would dissolve it? -  I just put it where they  
are
coming and going, with something overhead to keep the rain and dew  
off

if necessary - and they do the rest.

Take care,
Malcolm



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Re: CS>Help! asthma, again

[Clayton Family]

The question becomes what is causing her attacks?

Is she allergic to cats, mold, pollen, etc?

It is equally important to protect her from whatever she is allergic  
to in the first place.


Kathryn

On Oct 2, 2009, at 12:28 PM, Gina Moore wrote:

So, my daughter is having yet another asthma attack.  The last  
couple she’s had, I was able to fend off with nebulizing silver and  
giving her ½ a cup or more a day in her drinks.  This one isn’t  
responding to the silver.  I have Xeopenex and Budesonide… should I  
give her that too?  Or should we just head to the hospital?  She  
retracting pretty bad, although I have seen her be much worse.  I’m  
at that point where I want to do what’s best for her, but I don’t  
really want to put her in the stupid hospital.  Ugh…


Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
Gina

Re: CS>OT and borax ( fleas? ants!)

[Smitty]

> > Will fire ants take it?

Here's some info on fire ant control =

http://tinyurl.com/ycrl6r2

Smitty


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RE: CS>Alkalizing

[Dianne France]

Marshall

 

I really hope you will keep us updated on the results.  Wish the best for your 
wife.  I am also diabetic and have to watch but think I am holding my own right 
now.  Would love to rid myself of this disease.  

 

I think the better fats help.  Since everyone has gone to the canola oils etc. 
I think there is more incidence of the disease.

 

Dianne
 
> Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 11:43:42 -0400
> From: mdud...@king-cart.com
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>Alkalizing
> 
> I was unable to find sodium citrate locally, so I did make my own. 
> Turned out to be very easy.
> 
> 1. Put one level tablespoon of baking soda and citric acid powder each 
> in an 8 to 12 ounce glass
> 2. Add about 2 ounces of water (1/4 full for the 8 oz glass). (if you 
> put more than this it might foam over)
> 3. let foam until it diminishes, then stir. Continue sititing until 
> foaming diminishes
> 4. add another 2 oz of water, that is make an 8 oz glass half full.
> 5. stir until foaming stops.
> 
> You should have near 100% sodium citrate, with a little citric acid left 
> over. The water should be crystal clear. If you taste it it should have 
> a slightly sour taste. If you take the pH it should be about 6.5 to 6.8 
> or so. Now add a little baking soda ( 1/4 teaspoon) and stir until 
> foaming stops. Continue this until no foaming occurs after adding the 
> soda. (this occurred on the 3rd addition for me) If you taste it it 
> should taste salty, but not sour or bitter. If you test the pH it should 
> measure between 7.0 and 7.2.
> 
> You should have about 1 1/2 tablespoons of sodium citrate now. To 
> alkalize the water, I have been putting one ounce of this solution into 
> a gallon of water, actually putting the full amount into my 5 gallon 
> container. If you taste the water after it is added, you can detect a 
> slight amount of mineral taste, but it is very slight and not 
> objectionable at all, at least to me.
> 
> I would highly suggest taking a calcium, magnesium and potassium 
> supplement if you are drinking this water to be sure and maintain proper 
> electrolyte balance.
> 
> BTW, my urine pH when I tested it this morning was between 7.0 and 7.2, 
> which is considered optimal, after drinking the water all day yesterday. 
> Even my wife, who has had diabetes for 2 decades is testing optimal now. 
> Unfortunately I do not have a baseline though since I did not get the 
> testing paper until last night. I would watch my pH very carefully, if 
> it gets too alkaline, then you need to use less in your water.
> 
> Also I am thinking about using the undiluted solution in place of salt 
> when cooking. That would be pretty cool, an alkalizing salt.
> 
> Marshall
> 
> Marshall Dudley wrote:
> > Now, it seems that sodium citrate is not readily available locally, 
> > but can be ordered from soap making suppliers. However sodium citrate 
> > can be easily made by adding one mol of citric acid to 3 mols of 
> > bicarbonate of soda ( 100 grams of citric acid to 85.8 grams of sodium 
> > bicarbonate ). I have to be very careful to not put more citric acid 
> > in then is needed, or it will activate the MMS drops I am adding. 
> > Maybe I just need to test the pH and make sure that it is not under 7. 
> > Anyway, that is what I am working on, and will keep everyone posted on 
> > how thing are going as I try it.
> >
> > Marshall
> >
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Re: CS>Liposomal Vitamin C

[Norton, Steve]

Oops. Sent to wrong address. 


- Original Message -
From: Norton, Steve
To: 'pconve...@primus.ca' 
Sent: Fri Oct 02 13:24:31 2009
Subject: Re: CS>Liposomal Vitamin C

Hi Peter,
The reason I asked about solubility is that when looking for sources of GSH one 
stated that it was insoluble in water while the others did not. I wonder why 
that one is not soluble in water. It is an unexpected difference between GSH 
sources.  
 - Steve N

- Original Message -
From: Peter Converse 
To: Peter Converse ; Norton, Steve; silver-list@eskimo.com 

Sent: Fri Oct 02 08:40:57 2009
Subject: Re: CS>Liposomal Vitamin C

Hi Steve,

I should add that my Lypo-GSH encapsulation does not seem to be as efficient 
a process as with the Lypo-C. There is a small percentage (how much I am not 
certain) of whitish fallout which settles in the bottom of the jar. I am 
assuming that this would be the unencapsulated fraction.

Peter

Re: CS>Alkalizing

[Smitty]

>>>Dianne wrote:
>I am also diabetic and have to watch but think I am holding my
>own right now.  Would love to rid myself of this disease.

Dr.Young has a book out you should look at.
It's pointing out that the body needs to be in an alkaline
condition which will reverse the effects of diabetes.
There's some info here you can watch =
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHfnarU3Ha4

Smitty


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RE: CS>Help! asthma, again

[Gina Moore]

Well, we thought it was just dogs, so I keep her away from them.  Yesterday
however, we went to the park for a while, so now it’s also the air outside
during this time of year.  Ugh.  Can’t go anywhere with her during the fall
I guess.

Gina

 

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From: Clayton Family [mailto:clay...@skypoint.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 11:27 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Help! asthma, again

 

The question becomes what is causing her attacks?

 

Is she allergic to cats, mold, pollen, etc? 

 

It is equally important to protect her from whatever she is allergic to in
the first place.

 

Kathryn

 

On Oct 2, 2009, at 12:28 PM, Gina Moore wrote:





So, my daughter is having yet another asthma attack.  The last couple she’s
had, I was able to fend off with nebulizing silver and giving her ½ a cup or
more a day in her drinks.  This one isn’t responding to the silver.  I have
Xeopenex and Budesonide… should I give her that too?  Or should we just head
to the hospital?  She retracting pretty bad, although I have seen her be
much worse.  I’m at that point where I want to do what’s best for her, but I
don’t really want to put her in the stupid hospital.  Ugh…

 

Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

Gina

 

 

Re: CS>types of Lethicin

[Craig Chamberlin]

Hi Lin,

I just ran across this:

http://www.austradeinc.com/lecithin.html

There is also lecithin that is made from eggs

Craig

Lin Gregerson wrote:
Sorry...I'm reposting this because the subject line on original post 
was not correct.

Looking for other types of lethicin that can be used to make Lip C.
Please see original post below.  Lin
- Original Message - From: "Lin Gregerson" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 5:53 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Liposomal Vitamin C/Lethicin/cats


Is all lethicin from some type of grain?  I got into making the 
Liposomal C primarly to help the cats and kitten in our shelter.  The 
soy based lethicin causes gastric upsets, no matter how small the 
dose in these cats.  They do ok with their regular 250mg doses of 
ascorbic acid, but not the Lip C as of yet.
Are there other options that I could try to make a Liposomal C that 
will work with felines (and dogs)?
I've been taking it without any problems and have done the testing 
with baking soda, so I'm confident in what I'm making.  I just don't 
think anything soy based can be digested by cats.



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RE: CS>Help! asthma, again

[Lisa]

Unless maybe you could have her wear one of those ski type masks that covers
the mouth/nose? You could even sew her something from whatever material she
likes (cotton, polyester, fleece) with a nice pattern and have that cover
her nose/mouth – just enough to keep the chill/pollen etc. from getting in?

 

Maybe something to consider anyway…

 

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From: Gina Moore [mailto:vegasmom...@cox.net] 
Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 2:57 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>Help! asthma, again

 

Well, we thought it was just dogs, so I keep her away from them.  Yesterday
however, we went to the park for a while, so now it’s also the air outside
during this time of year.  Ugh.  Can’t go anywhere with her during the fall
I guess.

Gina

 

  _  

From: Clayton Family [mailto:clay...@skypoint.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 11:27 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Help! asthma, again

 

The question becomes what is causing her attacks?

 

Is she allergic to cats, mold, pollen, etc? 

 

It is equally important to protect her from whatever she is allergic to in
the first place.

 

Kathryn

 

On Oct 2, 2009, at 12:28 PM, Gina Moore wrote:

 

So, my daughter is having yet another asthma attack.  The last couple she’s
had, I was able to fend off with nebulizing silver and giving her ½ a cup or
more a day in her drinks.  This one isn’t responding to the silver.  I have
Xeopenex and Budesonide… should I give her that too?  Or should we just head
to the hospital?  She retracting pretty bad, although I have seen her be
much worse.  I’m at that point where I want to do what’s best for her, but I
don’t really want to put her in the stupid hospital.  Ugh…

 

Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

Gina

 

 

Re: CS> Native American stories--OT

[ZZekelink]

 
 I love this group !! You folks are great !!  Lois
 
In a message dated 10/2/2009 12:01:50 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
mdud...@king-cart.com writes:

zoe w  wrote:
> I am so sorry you had to experience this.  In my  observations across 
> the country  anywhere you go in  Tennessee  seems to be this way.   
> Please don't judge  the rest of our beautiful country  by this 
> yardstick.   My apologies to any  Tennesseeans here who do not fit 
>  this pattern, this was my observation  based on a cross country  bus  
> tour  a couple years ago.I simply could not  believe how  different 
> things are in that  state.

I  am Tennessean and definitely do not feel that way.  In fact I research  
material from a number of different tribes, primarily Hopi and Mayan,  
due to their rich heritage and "stories".  I am very interested in  
shamanism of any tribe.  I have even attended dancing and drumming  
ceremonies, and tried to go to a sweat lodge, but my wife objected. The  
energies are wonderful.

> There will always be individuals   who harbor  resentment  and 
> animosity,  but  mostly  they will keep it to themselves  these days.  
>  We can perhaps have some control over how people act in public,  but  
> we cannot govern  what they think.It would be  wonderful  if there 
> were some magic pill or elixir that would  make this all go away.
> I have at one time or another lived in just  about  every  area  in 
> this land  except for the  great  Northwest.   In most of these areas  
> great  progress has been made  not only towards  blacks  and indians  
> but other minorities  as well.   Even so ,  one  will always encounter  
> certain individuals  who carry on  the old  hateful ways.   Perhaps  in 
> another 500  yrs  or so.  Its really  seems  kind  of 
> ridiculous  these days  when most of us  are   a  conglomeration  of 
> many many cultures.   It is  time  to  show  not tolerance,  but 
> acceptance  and understanding.



You may find with the changes coming, that  will be changed by 2013. I 
sure hope so.

Marshall


>  My 2 cents worth.
>
> zoe
>
> Evans, Antonio F.  wrote:
>>  Greetings all, my heritage includes Blackfoot Native  Americans from 
>> a reservation at one point in South Carolina,  Barbados descendants 
>> after slavery (Maternal side) and Colombian  Natives, Panamanian 
>> Natives and Jamaican descendants from South  America (Paternal side), 
>> I pass for a small deep brown skin  African American male. I was just 
>> in Chattanooga Tennessee and  the hate I felt from Caucasian men 
>> young, middle age and elderly  was beyond belief in 2009. You could 
>> just feel hate in their  stares and blocking our car from the gas 
>> pump. A young Caucasian  male would not allow my friend, who is half 
>> Caucasian and African  American, he could pass for a 6'2 moroccon 
>> Arab. We needed to  fuel the car to head back to Washington DC, after 
>> visiting his  Caucasian mother who works in the Alexian retirement 
>> Center in  the mountains of Chattanooga, such a beautiful place with 
>>  hatefulness all around, did I miss something or should this still be  
>> expected? Pardon my description just painting a mental picture  for 
>> you all, I wish CS mixed with DMSO could harmonize this issue  with 
>> some of the American family
>>
>> A.  Evans/ Nanya Nufushu EL
>>
>>

RE: CS>Alkalizing

[Dianne France]

I had my PH tested thru my doctor and I was alkaline.  I still will watch the 
video.

Thanks for sending it.

 

Dianne
 
> Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 08:48:56 -1000
> Subject: Re: CS>Alkalizing
> From: papad...@gmail.com
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> 
> >>>Dianne wrote:
> >I am also diabetic and have to watch but think I am holding my
> >own right now. Would love to rid myself of this disease.
> 
> Dr.Young has a book out you should look at.
> It's pointing out that the body needs to be in an alkaline
> condition which will reverse the effects of diabetes.
> There's some info here you can watch =
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHfnarU3Ha4
> 
> Smitty
> 
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CS>OT Borax and termites

[Sharlene Miyamura]

Borax might kill termites too, there's Borate treatment used by a few
exterminators.  After doing some searching, I read that one can mix Boric
acid with propylene glycol (biodegradable form of anti-freeze), the glycol
helps to saturate the wood.  I was wondering if anyone knows what I could
substitute for the propylene glycol to make it more environmentally safe.

Sharlene

Re: CS>Help! asthma, again

[Melly Bag]

It could be mold.  I am allergic to many things but it is mold that causes me 
to have asthma attacks.  
 
Try spraying your house with a mix of colloidal silver and tea tree oil even 
the ceilings and carpets, closets, cabinets, etc.  I've done that.  Spray mist 
can do the job as well. It really helps. And now everytime i seem to come with 
asthma attack, i spray my nose with CS and drink oregano oil and CS too.  Then 
i dust and spray entire house and vaccum as well.
 
Melly   

--- On Fri, 10/2/09, Clayton Family  wrote:


From: Clayton Family 
Subject: Re: CS>Help! asthma, again
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Friday, October 2, 2009, 2:26 PM


The question becomes what is causing her attacks?


Is she allergic to cats, mold, pollen, etc? 


It is equally important to protect her from whatever she is allergic to in the 
first place.


Kathryn



On Oct 2, 2009, at 12:28 PM, Gina Moore wrote:




So, my daughter is having yet another asthma attack.  The last couple she’s 
had, I was able to fend off with nebulizing silver and giving her ½ a cup or 
more a day in her drinks.  This one isn’t responding to the silver.  I have 
Xeopenex and Budesonide… should I give her that too?  Or should we just head to 
the hospital?  She retracting pretty bad, although I have seen her be much 
worse.  I’m at that point where I want to do what’s best for her, but I don’t 
really want to put her in the stupid hospital.  Ugh…
 
Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
Gina
 

Re: CS>Help! asthma, again

[Melly Bag]

Gina,
 
I forgot to tell you i also take Echinacea capsules, if not available, then i 
take the tea and it works as well but you have to take it four a couple of 
weeks before it really works.
 
Melly

--- On Fri, 10/2/09, Gina Moore  wrote:


From: Gina Moore 
Subject: CS>Help! asthma, again
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Friday, October 2, 2009, 1:28 PM








So, my daughter is having yet another asthma attack.  The last couple she’s 
had, I was able to fend off with nebulizing silver and giving her ½ a cup or 
more a day in her drinks.  This one isn’t responding to the silver.  I have 
Xeopenex and Budesonide… should I give her that too?  Or should we just head to 
the hospital?  She retracting pretty bad, although I have seen her be much 
worse.  I’m at that point where I want to do what’s best for her, but I don’t 
really want to put her in the stupid hospital.  Ugh…
 
Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
Gina
 

RE: CS>Help! asthma, again

[Melly Bag]

Mold is also outdoors - trees, ground, etc.  It could be it.
 
Melly

--- On Fri, 10/2/09, Gina Moore  wrote:


From: Gina Moore 
Subject: RE: CS>Help! asthma, again
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Friday, October 2, 2009, 2:56 PM








Well, we thought it was just dogs, so I keep her away from them.  Yesterday 
however, we went to the park for a while, so now it’s also the air outside 
during this time of year.  Ugh.  Can’t go anywhere with her during the fall I 
guess.
Gina
 




From: Clayton Family [mailto:clay...@skypoint.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 11:27 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Help! asthma, again
 
The question becomes what is causing her attacks?

 

Is she allergic to cats, mold, pollen, etc? 

 

It is equally important to protect her from whatever she is allergic to in the 
first place.

 

Kathryn

 


On Oct 2, 2009, at 12:28 PM, Gina Moore wrote:






So, my daughter is having yet another asthma attack.  The last couple she’s 
had, I was able to fend off with nebulizing silver and giving her ½ a cup or 
more a day in her drinks.  This one isn’t responding to the silver.  I have 
Xeopenex and Budesonide… should I give her that too?  Or should we just head to 
the hospital?  She retracting pretty bad, although I have seen her be much 
worse.  I’m at that point where I want to do what’s best for her, but I don’t 
really want to put her in the stupid hospital.  Ugh…

 

Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

Gina

 
 

Re: CS> Native American stories--OT

[Michael Mahoney]

This thread should probably come to an end but I wanted to add a
little something to it before we incur the wrath of "he who must
be obeyed"...



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You've_Got_to_Be_Carefully_Taught


You've Got to Be Carefully Taught
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"You've Got to Be Carefully Taught" (sometimes "You've Got to Be
Taught" or "Carefully Taught") is a show tune from the 1949 Rodgers
and Hammerstein musical South Pacific.

South Pacific received scrutiny for its commentary regarding
relationships between different races and ethnic groups. In
particular, "You've Got to Be Carefully Taught" was subject to
widespread criticism, judged by some to be too controversial or
downright inappropriate for the musical stage. Sung by the character
Lieutenant Cable, the song is preceded by a lyric saying racism is
"not born in you! It happens after you're born..."

Rodgers and Hammerstein risked the entire South Pacific venture in
light of legislative challenges to its decency or supposed Communist
agenda. While on a tour of the Southern United States, lawmakers in
Georgia introduced a bill outlawing entertainment containing "an
underlying philosophy inspired by Moscow". One legislator said that
"a song justifying interracial marriage was implicitly a threat to
the American way of life." Rodgers and Hammerstein defended their
work strongly. James Michener, upon whose stories South Pacific was
based, recalled, "The authors replied stubbornly that this number
represented why they had wanted to do this play, and that even if it
meant the failure of the production, it was going to stay in.


You've Got To Be Carefully Taught

You've got to be taught
To hate and fear,
You've got to be taught
From year to year,
It's got to be drummed
In your dear little ear
You've got to be carefully taught.

You've got to be taught to be afraid
Of people whose eyes are oddly made,
And people whose skin is a diff'rent shade,
You've got to be carefully taught.

You've got to be taught before it's too late,
Before you are six or seven or eight,
To hate all the people your relatives hate,
You've got to be carefully taught!


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Re: CS>OT Borax and termites

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  - Original Message - 
  From: Sharlene Miyamura
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 5:09 PM
  Subject: CS>OT Borax and termites



  Borax might kill termites too, there's Borate treatment used by a few 
exterminators.  After doing some searching, I read that one can mix Boric 
acid with propylene glycol (biodegradable form of anti-freeze), the glycol 
helps to saturate the wood.  I was wondering if anyone knows what I could 
substitute for the propylene glycol to make it more environmentally safe.

  Sharlene

Re: CS>OT Borax and termites

[Tony Moody]

On 2 Oct 2009 at 12:09, Sharlene Miyamura wrote about :
Subject : CS>OT Borax and termites

> Borax might kill termites too, there's Borate treatment used by a few
> exterminators.  After doing some searching, I read that one can mix Boric
> acid with propylene glycol (biodegradable form of anti-freeze), the glycol
> helps to saturate the wood.  I was wondering if anyone knows what I could
> substitute for the propylene glycol to make it more environmentally safe.
> 
> Sharlene
> 

What about water or even better, dilute DMSO.

hth,
Tony


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Re: CS>OT and borax ( fleas? ants!)

[Malcolm]

I don't know; it's certainly cheap enough, give it a whirl.  I get mine
at the feed store, but "loaned" the box out and it hasn't come back.

Take care, 
M.

On Fri, 2009-10-02 at 13:18 -0400, Marshall Dudley wrote:
> Will fire ants take it?
> 
> Marshall
> 
> Malcolm wrote:
> > Hi, I don't know about boron, the element, but borax is definitely
> > deadly to ants of various persuasions that live around my area, from
> > sugar ants to leaf-miners with a few big ol' meanies in-between.
> >
> > Apparently it tastes like sugar to them (though who figured that out I
> > dunno?)  They take it back to the nest where it wipes out the entire
> > colony.
> >
> > I've never had to band it around the house or garden - as a matter of
> > fact I'd think rain would dissolve it? -  I just put it where they are
> > coming and going, with something overhead to keep the rain and dew off
> > if necessary - and they do the rest.
> >
> > Take care,
> > Malcolm 
> >   
> 
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