Re: CS>gunky dog earss - CS / DMSO

[Tony Moody]

http://www.earthclinic.com/Pets/dog_mange_cure.html

On 9 Oct 2009 at 6:49, Tony Moody wrote about :
Subject : Re: CS>gunky dog earss - CS / DMSO

> Hallo Garnet,
> 
> Have you tried the Borax treatment for mites? ref:
> http://www.earthclinic.com/pets.html
> CURE DEMODECTIC AND SARCOPTIC MANGE
> 
> I value you your comments,
> 
> OK,
> Tony Moody
> 
> On 8 Oct 2009 at 19:36, Garnet wrote about :
> Subject : Re: CS>gunky dog earss - CS / DMSO
> 
> > If you use a chemical miticide the DMSO could transport it into
> > the body and across the Blood Brain Barrier so be careful on
> > the timing.
> > 
> > I would not treat for mites unless you know that is what it is
> > since the treatments are mostly chemical.
> > 
> > And if it is yeast you are not addressing the yeast by treating
> > for mites since the treatments are different.
> > 
> > Garnet
> > 
> > 
> > http://www.ldndatabase.com/forum
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_Information
> > Dr Chris Steele, ITV's This Morning supporting LDN
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpjsDK0LPA
> > 
> > 
> > sol wrote:
> > > MaryAnn Helland wrote:
> > >> Hi Dianne.  It would probably depend on if the problem is ear mites,
> > >> or a yeast infection, or both.  CS would help the yeast infection,
> > >> but not the ear mites.  
> > > I believe that with ear mites there are often secondary infections.
> > > CS/DMSO should help considerably with those, thus allowing any other
> > > treatments for the mites to be more effective.
> > > 
> > > I'd also give EIS[CS] orally AS the dog's drinking water. This will
> > > cut down any other subclinical infections the dog might have, and thus
> > > reduce the load on immune system. I believe from experience that in my
> > > pets mites have always been associated with immune suppression.
> > >  sol
> > > 
> 
> 
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Re: CS>Bone Spur

[zoe w]

You can use sugar, molasses,  stevia,  just about anything to sweeten to 
taste.  Never drink it straight,  always dilute with water, juice, tea,  
whatever.   Otherwise it could erode your tooth enamel  and cause  
stomach  distress.


zoe

Fuzzmom wrote:
Wow..no i'mnot taking anything at the moment..I thin I should be. Can 
ou use sugar mixed with acv? I ran out of honey and i dont think I 
could drink it straight.


- Original Message -
*From:* Sharlene Miyamura 
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com 
*Sent:* Friday, October 09, 2009 12:28 AM
*Subject:* Re: CS>Bone Spur

If you're taking calcium, make sure you up the ratio of magnesium
to calcium.  I would take magnesium to bowel tolerance and back
down a bit.  Hydrangea is a great herb to take for stones or
spurs.  Add lemon to your drinking water.
 
Sharlene


2009/10/8 Fuzzmom mailto:fuzzm...@frontier.com>>

I am asking because my heels Burn and hurt and feel awful. I
can hardly stand on them and yet there is no lumps or bumps.
My feet also cramp constantly and everything from the knees
down is swollen. My doctor says it's not a circulation issue
but the only things that help are epsom salts and eeping feet
up. even the bone that attaches from my heel to the rest of my
anle hurts. That's why I was wondering what they are and what
to do i've tried everything prescription and nothing has owrked.
 




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Re: CS>gunky dog earss - CS / DMSO

[Tony Moody]

Hallo Garnet,

Have you tried the Borax treatment for mites? ref:
http://www.earthclinic.com/pets.html
CURE DEMODECTIC AND SARCOPTIC MANGE

I value you your comments,

OK,
Tony Moody

On 8 Oct 2009 at 19:36, Garnet wrote about :
Subject : Re: CS>gunky dog earss - CS / DMSO

> If you use a chemical miticide the DMSO could transport it into
> the body and across the Blood Brain Barrier so be careful on
> the timing.
> 
> I would not treat for mites unless you know that is what it is
> since the treatments are mostly chemical.
> 
> And if it is yeast you are not addressing the yeast by treating
> for mites since the treatments are different.
> 
> Garnet
> 
> 
> http://www.ldndatabase.com/forum
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_Information
> Dr Chris Steele, ITV's This Morning supporting LDN
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpjsDK0LPA
> 
> 
> sol wrote:
> > MaryAnn Helland wrote:
> >> Hi Dianne.  It would probably depend on if the problem is ear mites, or
> >> a yeast infection, or both.  CS would help the yeast infection, but not
> >> the ear mites.  
> > I believe that with ear mites there are often secondary infections.
> > CS/DMSO should help considerably with those, thus allowing any other
> > treatments for the mites to be more effective.
> > 
> > I'd also give EIS[CS] orally AS the dog's drinking water. This will cut
> > down any other subclinical infections the dog might have, and thus
> > reduce the load on immune system. I believe from experience that in my
> > pets mites have always been associated with immune suppression.
> >  sol
> > 


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RE: CS>Bone Spur

[James C Brown]

Try DemaMag - Magnesium Chloride Oil. Spray it and it soaks through the
skin. No bowel effect.
 
Thanks,
Jim
 

  _  

From: Sharlene Miyamura [mailto:fire888ea...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 9:28 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Bone Spur


If you're taking calcium, make sure you up the ratio of magnesium to
calcium.  I would take magnesium to bowel tolerance and back down a bit.
Hydrangea is a great herb to take for stones or spurs.  Add lemon to your
drinking water.
 
Sharlene


2009/10/8 Fuzzmom 


I am asking because my heels Burn and hurt and feel awful. I can hardly
stand on them and yet there is no lumps or bumps. My feet also cramp
constantly and everything from the knees down is swollen. My doctor says
it's not a circulation issue but the only things that help are epsom salts
and eeping feet up. even the bone that attaches from my heel to the rest of
my anle hurts. That's why I was wondering what they are and what to do i've
tried everything prescription and nothing has owrked.
 

Re: CS>Bone Spur

[Fuzzmom]

Wow..no i'mnot taking anything at the moment..I thin I should be. Can ou use 
sugar mixed with acv? I ran out of honey and i dont think I could drink it 
straight. 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Sharlene Miyamura 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 12:28 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>Bone Spur


  If you're taking calcium, make sure you up the ratio of magnesium to calcium. 
 I would take magnesium to bowel tolerance and back down a bit.  Hydrangea is a 
great herb to take for stones or spurs.  Add lemon to your drinking water.

  Sharlene


  2009/10/8 Fuzzmom 

I am asking because my heels Burn and hurt and feel awful. I can hardly 
stand on them and yet there is no lumps or bumps. My feet also cramp constantly 
and everything from the knees down is swollen. My doctor says it's not a 
circulation issue but the only things that help are epsom salts and eeping feet 
up. even the bone that attaches from my heel to the rest of my anle hurts. 
That's why I was wondering what they are and what to do i've tried everything 
prescription and nothing has owrked.
 


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Re: CS>Bone Spur

[Sharlene Miyamura]

If you're taking calcium, make sure you up the ratio of magnesium to
calcium.  I would take magnesium to bowel tolerance and back down a bit.
Hydrangea is a great herb to take for stones or spurs.  Add lemon to your
drinking water.

Sharlene

2009/10/8 Fuzzmom 

> I am asking because my heels Burn and hurt and feel awful. I can hardly
> stand on them and yet there is no lumps or bumps. My feet also cramp
> constantly and everything from the knees down is swollen. My doctor says
> it's not a circulation issue but the only things that help are epsom salts
> and eeping feet up. even the bone that attaches from my heel to the rest of
> my anle hurts. That's why I was wondering what they are and what to do i've
> tried everything prescription and nothing has owrked.
>

Re: CS>Bone Spur

[Fuzzmom]

I am asking because my heels Burn and hurt and feel awful. I can hardly 
stand on them and yet there is no lumps or bumps. My feet also cramp 
constantly and everything from the knees down is swollen. My doctor says 
it's not a circulation issue but the only things that help are epsom salts 
and eeping feet up. even the bone that attaches from my heel to the rest of 
my anle hurts. That's why I was wondering what they are and what to do i've 
tried everything prescription and nothing has owrked.
- Original Message - 
From: "zoe w" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 5:19 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Bone Spur



Believe me,  if you had one you wouldn't have to ask.   They are quite
painful  no matter where they manifest themselves.   They are caused by
an abnormal buildup of calcium where it doesn't belong.   Sometimes you
will see the lump,  but not always.  An x-ray  will confirm the diagnosis.

zoe


Fuzzmom wrote:

What are bone spurs an how do you know if you have them? i mean what
do they feeel..r look like?
- Original Message - From: "Gayla Roberts" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 12:58 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Bone Spur



I don't have an answering post yet, so I will chime in here. The
recipe I am
familiar with is 1 tablespoon ACV (apple cider vinegar - preferrably
raw,
like Bragg's) and work up to 1 teaspoon of cayenne. Mix in 1 cup of
warm or
cool water and drink/
Gayla
Bob and Gayla Roberts
Always Enough Ranch
Acampo, CA
- Original Message - From: "Peter Converse"

To: "zoe w" ; 
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 4:42 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Bone Spur



Hi Zoe,

Do you have the recipe?

Peter

- Original Message - From: "zoe w" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 5:40 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Bone Spur



Once upon a time I had bonespurs on both heels- quite painful   and
one
on my wrist just below the thumb joint  which interfered with thumb
movement and was also quite painful.

I also had  some painful hemorrhoids  for which someone advised I put
some cayenne pepper  in some Bragg's  Raw Apple Cider vinegar.   This
seemed really strange to me  but others on the list verified it
worked so
I tried it.Not only did it clear the rrhoids  after about 3
weeks  I
noticed that all the bone spurs were gone as well.   That was several
years ago and  none have  come back.

zoe


Dan Nave wrote:

This was written by ransley a few months ago.  It may relate to your
inquiry about bone spur mitigation...

Dan


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From:  
Date: Fri, May 15, 2009 at 7:20 AM
Subject: RE: CS>Synopsis of my experience with Magnesium Bicarbonate
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Cc: "M. G. Devour" 


Mike wrote:

Do you take these magnesium doses on an empty stomach? You say you
did
this
mostly at night, so I'm wondering how long after meals or snacking...

When you get a chance would you please describe what you're doing
with
(digestive enzymes), as well as product source and maybe pointers to
information you've found useful? I think either or both of these
therapies
may end up being part of my own path to recovery.




Hey Mike-

Sorry to take so long, been out of town for a few days.

Yes, on empty stomach, 2 hours minimum after eating anything and
preferably
not having eaten too much at that time just to be sure. Sometimes 3-4
hours
since I was really serious about getting the best effect of this.
I did
it
at night merely because magnesium is calming and inducing of sleep
and
because some of these effects demanded being still.

I have another reason for getting into enzymes. My wife has a breast
lump
that was not diagnosed as cancerous, but the surgeon tried to
scare her
into
immediate surgery. We are limited in our options about that here
especially
because of medical mega-corporations moving into the area. So we're
going
alternative. Enzymes are part of what we're doing and I'm doing
everything
she's doing just on general principle. Besides, I have a few lumps
and
such
scattered around and want to see what enzymes will do for them.

There are many excellent enzymes out there, so many that it is
confusing,
but I was really impressed when Bragg's got into the act:
www.braggzyme.com.
It seems to me that Bragg's doesn't get into something that they
don't
totally believe in. I listened to the audio at that site by William
Wong,
over and over and decided this was for me.

We ordered ours from Fubao Health Store in San Francisco and were
pleased
with their price and their free shipping deal over $99. Delivery was
timely.

My wife is eating raw Daikon Radish as part of her enzyme effort.
Supposedly
they help disperse fibro-tumors. We are also considering Lumbrokinase
which
is fairly new. I'd really like to hear from anyone who has taken it.

Hope this helps, Bob/DaddyBob



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Re: CS>gunky dog earss - CS / DMSO

[Fuzzmom]

What's thornit oil? Where do you find it.. i the u.s. 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 8:42 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>gunky dog earss - CS / DMSO


  It would be safe but I doubt it would be any good as mites are too big to be 
killed by CS.  It would kill any secondary infection though.  dee PS Thornit 
and oil are good for killing ear mites but only UK do it I believe.


  On 8 Oct 2009, at 10:40, Dianne France wrote:


Hello group-
We have friends visiting that have brought their older lab with them and 
the poor thing has terribly gunky ears.  She has been using a store bought 
solution for cleaning and vet purchased liquid for treating the ears but it 
never goes away.  My question is would cs alone take care of the problem or 
would you need to put some DMSO in with it to penetrate the gunk?  Would this 
mixture be safe for a dog?
Dianne



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Re: CS>Bone spur

[Marshalee Hallett]

I took the Duoflex brand, which was (I think) three capsules a day for 10
days. Google Duoflex or CMO for more infoMarshalee

On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 6:21 PM, Bruce Anderson  wrote:

> How much and how often, and for how long?
>
>
>
> Marshall Dudley wrote:
>
>  Yes, CMO can be fantastic. I wiped out my arthritis with it about 10 years
>> ago, and it has never come back.  Great stuff.
>>
>> Marshall
>>
>> Evans, Antonio F. wrote:
>>
>>   CMO???
>>>
>>>
>>> A. Evans/ (OMPA)
>>>  Desk: 202.461.8863 Fax: 202.565.4679
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: zoe w [mailto:mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, October 08,
>>> 2009 5:14 AM
>>> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>>> Subject: Re: CS>Bone spur
>>>
>>> Marshalee Hallett wrote:
>>>
>>>
 My bone spurs, in feet and spine, all went away since I took CMO for
 arthritis, and have never been back!
 Marshalee


>>>
>>> CMO
>>> zoe
>>>
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Re: CS>gunky dog earss - CS / DMSO

[Fuzzmom]

If ears are gunky..waxy and have a dirty socks sort of smell then you've ost 
like ly got yeast. Try the vinegar and also add acv to food or 
water..however she'll tae it. onl thing that has wored for my lab otherwise 
i'd be at the vet every month. And if she's allergic to grain or sugary 
foods that could cause them to recur Constantly..chagne the diet and tell 
your friend to look into whether it is food related. haven't found a 
treatment for mites yet that's natural if yu do let me know.
- Original Message - 
From: "sol" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 5:46 PM
Subject: Re: CS>gunky dog earss - CS / DMSO



MaryAnn Helland wrote:

Hi Dianne.  It would probably depend on if the problem is ear mites, or
a yeast infection, or both.  CS would help the yeast infection, but not
the ear mites.

I believe that with ear mites there are often secondary infections.
CS/DMSO should help considerably with those, thus allowing any other
treatments for the mites to be more effective.

I'd also give EIS[CS] orally AS the dog's drinking water. This will cut
down any other subclinical infections the dog might have, and thus
reduce the load on immune system. I believe from experience that in my
pets mites have always been associated with immune suppression.
 sol


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Re: CS>Fw: Strong earthquakes rock South Pacific 7.8 AND 7.3 -Quakes

[Roger Barker]

Many thanks Marshalee it's much appreciated.

Roger B
NZ


On 8/10/2009, at 3:54 PM, Marshalee Hallett wrote:

OK, from now on, I`ll let the List know whenever I "get" anything!
  Believe me, it is not a nice thing to have, as almost all of the  
things I sense include fatalities.
The actual warning sensations are not nice either. I don`t know why  
this happens, at times I wish it wouldn`t...
I sense quakes, landslides and avalanches with the same sensation,  
but air crashes and such are different, as are weather things, like  
tornadoes, floods, and hurricanes.

I reiterate, `tis weird.
I had an ancestor who did this too; back in the late 1800s she told  
her coal miner hubby not to go to work one day, no matter what. He  
didn`t go, and was the only man in his shift to survive a terrific  
methane gas explosion in the Utah coal mine that day... (The  
explosion blew a coal car over a mile across the valley, as if it  
were shot from a huge cannon!)

Marshalee



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Re: CS>FLU- trem - mold

[Clayton Family]

Dear Trem,

The problem with mold on sheetrock is that 1. the most extremely toxic  
variety of fungus is in the gypsum, and when there is a stain from wet  
sheetrock, it is fairly certain to be a bad variety. That would be  
stachy... and some people do not seem to be very affected by it. Some  
of us, though seem to be genetically lacking some enzyme or another  
that removes that type of toxin from the body, and it builds up,  
wreaking havok. So she could be affected and you not.


Most house inspectors may not be very useful, as there are no good  
tests to "prove" a stachy colony unless you can see it and pick it up  
with some tape. Since it is anaerobic, it is often not in plain sight.  
In my house, it was on the other side of the tile in the shower  
stalls- the anaerobic side. It was completely hidden, and yet the  
toxins it was releasing nearly killed me. We did get it remediated,  
but not with the help of the "experts"- there is so much  
misinformation; and even well meaning people can have VERY incomplete  
info on what to do about it. It took us some trial and error before we  
had it beat.


About the flu- I had some nasty awful flu last winter, the CS seemed  
to make it worse.


My son 23, just got the flu, high fever, body aches, bad cough. He did  
a fair amount of cs and it did help. He was only on his back for one  
day, but was sick for about a week, + or -.


Maybe 4 years ago I got a flu vaccine variation (a couple of drops  
under the skin of the forearm), but it was to see if my immune system  
was functioning or not from the mold exposure. But the doc said it  
would also confer immunity to that variety of flu for life. It was  
also not the thimerosol preserved one, his had to be in the fridge.


The doc that was linked to in a previous post has done some good work  
in that area. I have not read his remediation book, though, maybe it  
came out after I was done.


Best Wishes with all of it,

Kathryn

On Oct 7, 2009, at 9:06 PM, Trem wrote:

I have been sort of monitoring the list and haven't seen any posts  
saying they had kicked up a flu bug.So, have any of you folks  
been flu ridden?  My wife is considering a regular flu shot because  
she has developed a respiratory problem over the years and  
attributes it to mold in our house.  I refuse to buy into it because  
we have not had standing water or continuous lockage into wall  
cavities.  We do have a few small mold like stains on some sheetrock  
in our basement but I tell her she would probably se the same in any  
average basement.  She isn't considering H1N1 vaccine.  I haven't  
had a shot in 10 years and don't plan to have any in the near or  
distant future.


Let's have a show of hands.anyone caught a flu bug this year?

Trem

Re: CS>gunky dog earss - CS / DMSO

[Bob Banever]

Dianne,

  It depends on what is causing the infection in the ears.  If it is yeast 
(very common, usually brownish gunk) then vinegar will deal with it quite well. 
  Use white vinegar and dilute it 5/1 with water (5 parts water, 1 part 
vinegar).  You can use a cotton swab to GENTLY clean the ears with the same 
solution, but first fill the ear canal with the liquid and then massage it in, 
then let the dog shake it out as much as possible.  CS will deal with bacterial 
or viral problems, not yeast IMO.  Mites might need a mitecide of some sort.

Bob
  - Original Message - 
  From: Dianne France 
  To: silver-list 
  Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 2:40 AM
  Subject: CS>gunky dog earss - CS / DMSO


  Hello group-
  We have friends visiting that have brought their older lab with them and the 
poor thing has terribly gunky ears.  She has been using a store bought solution 
for cleaning and vet purchased liquid for treating the ears but it never goes 
away.  My question is would cs alone take care of the problem or would you need 
to put some DMSO in with it to penetrate the gunk?  Would this mixture be safe 
for a dog?
  Dianne


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Re: CS>gunky dog earss - CS / DMSO

[Garnet]

If you use a chemical miticide the DMSO could transport it into
the body and across the Blood Brain Barrier so be careful on
the timing.

I would not treat for mites unless you know that is what it is
since the treatments are mostly chemical.

And if it is yeast you are not addressing the yeast by treating
for mites since the treatments are different.

Garnet


http://www.ldndatabase.com/forum
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_Information
Dr Chris Steele, ITV's This Morning supporting LDN
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpjsDK0LPA


sol wrote:

MaryAnn Helland wrote:
Hi Dianne.  It would probably depend on if the problem is ear mites, 
or a yeast infection, or both.  CS would help the yeast infection, but 
not the ear mites.  
I believe that with ear mites there are often secondary infections. 
CS/DMSO should help considerably with those, thus allowing any other 
treatments for the mites to be more effective.


I'd also give EIS[CS] orally AS the dog's drinking water. This will cut 
down any other subclinical infections the dog might have, and thus 
reduce the load on immune system. I believe from experience that in my 
pets mites have always been associated with immune suppression.

 sol


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Re: CS>Bone spur

[Bruce Anderson]

How much and how often, and for how long?


Marshall Dudley wrote:

Yes, CMO can be fantastic. I wiped out my arthritis with it about 10 
years ago, and it has never come back.  Great stuff.


Marshall

Evans, Antonio F. wrote:


 CMO???


A. Evans/ (OMPA)
 Desk: 202.461.8863 Fax: 202.565.4679

-Original Message-
From: zoe w [mailto:mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, October 
08, 2009 5:14 AM

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Bone spur

Marshalee Hallett wrote:
 

My bone spurs, in feet and spine, all went away since I took CMO for 
arthritis, and have never been back!

Marshalee



CMO
zoe


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Re: CS>Fw: Strong earthquakes rock South Pacific 7.8 AND 7.3 -Quakes

[Deborah Gerard]

Will do...thanks again





From: Marshalee Hallett 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, October 8, 2009 4:31:12 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Fw: Strong earthquakes rock South Pacific 7.8 AND 7.3 -Quakes

Hi, Debbie,  
Well, I hope it did some good for somebody... 
BTW, last night I sensed a bad weather thingy coming, possibly a tornado. Watch 
the news.
Be well!
Marshalee


On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 4:58 PM, Deborah Gerard  wrote:

What a story thanks for sharring it with us,
>if you want to e-mail me personally when you sense something is coming please 
>feel free to do so...you have a gift that is for sure,
>Debbie
>
>>>
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>>
>
>



  

Re: CS>Bone spur

[sol]

Marshalee Hallett wrote:
Hi, Sol, 
Well it took several months for my pain to finally go away completely. 
Did you take any healing things such as MSM and glucosamine? I did, I 
think they helped. Just my 2 cents worth...

Marshalee


It was my husband. He has tried to take glucosamine but it causes him 
too much stomach pain. He also attempted to do a second course of CMO 
later, but couldn't finish it, also due to stomach pain. Maybe that is 
the key, to take the CMO along with glucosamine, etc.

sol


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Re: CS>Compendium of daily protocols

[sol]

Lisa wrote:

Can you share your "recipe" for eye drops? What ratio? I'd like to
find out whether or not I can improve my eyesight a bit by using
drops (knowing that DMSO can possibly help that).

Also, did you mean EIS-MMS-DMSO combo OR indeed MSM...I have both now
(my MMS arrive today -- yea)!


MSM definitely, I would not use MMS in eyes, no way.
My recipe for eye drops is to almost fill a clean dropper bottle with 
EIS and add a few drops of 99% pure DMSO, say 3 to 5 drops for an ounce 
bottle. Then added a few more drops until it gets to where it starts to 
feel uncomfortable. at that point I dropped back off a couple drops, and 
that is where I stayed. Don't remmember how many drops I ended up with.


I read that straight DMSO in the eyes will reverse cataracts, and I 
tried it in one eye only. It was painful enough that I never got the 
nerve to do the other eye, and have never done it again, LOL.


Some people add MSM to eye drops as well, but MSM burns my eyes so I 
don't use it in the eye drops.

sol


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Re: CS>Bone spur

[Marshalee Hallett]

CMO is made from beef tallow, it was developed at Stanford University
Medical Center. It works by turning off the T4 white blood cells somehow, so
that they stop eating the joints, instead of invading pathogens, like
they`re supposed to do. Once they are stopped, the body can (hopefully)
heal. My friend had good results in her sore hands and so on, but her knees
are so far gone, they are being replaced. One is done, and she feels vastly
better with it. The next one will be replaced next month.
Marshalee


On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Lisa  wrote:

> What exactly is CMO?
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: CS>Bone spur

[Marshalee Hallett]

Hi, Sol, Well it took several months for my pain to finally go away
completely. Did you take any healing things such as MSM and glucosamine? I
did, I think they helped. Just my 2 cents worth...
Marshalee

On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 3:59 PM, sol  wrote:

> Marshall Dudley wrote:
>
>> Yes, CMO can be fantastic. I wiped out my arthritis with it about 10 years
>> ago, and it has never come back.  Great stuff.
>>
>
> So what does it mean if someone did a full course of good quality CMO
> without any improvement whatsoever? I speculate that means the pain is/was
> not caused by actual arthritis?
> sol
>
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Re: CS>Fw: Strong earthquakes rock South Pacific 7.8 AND 7.3 -Quakes

[Marshalee Hallett]

Hi, Debbie, Well, I hope it did some good for somebody...BTW, last night I
sensed a bad weather thingy coming, possibly a tornado. Watch the news.
Be well!
Marshalee

On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 4:58 PM, Deborah Gerard  wrote:

> What a story thanks for sharring it with us,
> if you want to e-mail me personally when you sense something is coming
> please feel free to do so...you have a gift that is for sure,
> Debbie
>
>>
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>
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Re: CS>Bone Spur

[Donna]

Well my shoulder has been killing me for 2 months sometimes I even have 
to move it with my other hand.  I had X-Ray done and it showed up on that.

Donna ACS
What are bone spurs an how do you know if you have them? i mean what 
do they feeel..r look like?

- Original Message - From: "Gayla Roberts" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 12:58 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Bone Spur


I don't have an answering post yet, so I will chime in here. The 
recipe I am
familiar with is 1 tablespoon ACV (apple cider vinegar - preferrably 
raw,
like Bragg's) and work up to 1 teaspoon of cayenne. Mix in 1 cup of 
warm or

cool water and drink/
Gayla
Bob and Gayla Roberts
Always Enough Ranch
Acampo, CA
- Original Message - From: "Peter Converse" 


To: "zoe w" ; 
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 4:42 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Bone Spur



Hi Zoe,

Do you have the recipe?

Peter

- Original Message - From: "zoe w" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 5:40 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Bone Spur


Once upon a time I had bonespurs on both heels- quite painful   and 
one

on my wrist just below the thumb joint  which interfered with thumb
movement and was also quite painful.

I also had  some painful hemorrhoids  for which someone advised I put
some cayenne pepper  in some Bragg's  Raw Apple Cider vinegar.   This
seemed really strange to me  but others on the list verified it 
worked so
I tried it.Not only did it clear the rrhoids  after about 3 
weeks  I

noticed that all the bone spurs were gone as well.   That was several
years ago and  none have  come back.

zoe


Dan Nave wrote:

This was written by ransley a few months ago.  It may relate to your
inquiry about bone spur mitigation...

Dan


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From:  
Date: Fri, May 15, 2009 at 7:20 AM
Subject: RE: CS>Synopsis of my experience with Magnesium Bicarbonate
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Cc: "M. G. Devour" 


Mike wrote:

Do you take these magnesium doses on an empty stomach? You say you 
did

this
mostly at night, so I'm wondering how long after meals or snacking...

When you get a chance would you please describe what you're doing 
with

(digestive enzymes), as well as product source and maybe pointers to
information you've found useful? I think either or both of these
therapies
may end up being part of my own path to recovery.




Hey Mike-

Sorry to take so long, been out of town for a few days.

Yes, on empty stomach, 2 hours minimum after eating anything and
preferably
not having eaten too much at that time just to be sure. Sometimes 3-4
hours
since I was really serious about getting the best effect of this. 
I did

it
at night merely because magnesium is calming and inducing of sleep 
and

because some of these effects demanded being still.

I have another reason for getting into enzymes. My wife has a breast
lump
that was not diagnosed as cancerous, but the surgeon tried to 
scare her

into
immediate surgery. We are limited in our options about that here
especially
because of medical mega-corporations moving into the area. So we're
going
alternative. Enzymes are part of what we're doing and I'm doing
everything
she's doing just on general principle. Besides, I have a few lumps 
and

such
scattered around and want to see what enzymes will do for them.

There are many excellent enzymes out there, so many that it is
confusing,
but I was really impressed when Bragg's got into the act:
www.braggzyme.com.
It seems to me that Bragg's doesn't get into something that they 
don't

totally believe in. I listened to the audio at that site by William
Wong,
over and over and decided this was for me.

We ordered ours from Fubao Health Store in San Francisco and were
pleased
with their price and their free shipping deal over $99. Delivery was
timely.

My wife is eating raw Daikon Radish as part of her enzyme effort.
Supposedly
they help disperse fibro-tumors. We are also considering Lumbrokinase
which
is fairly new. I'd really like to hear from anyone who has taken it.

Hope this helps, Bob/DaddyBob



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Re: CS>Fw: Strong earthquakes rock South Pacific 7.8 AND 7.3 -Quakes

[Deborah Gerard]

What a story thanks for sharring it with us,
if you want to e-mail me personally when you sense something is coming please 
feel free to do so...you have a gift that is for sure,
Debbie





From: Marshalee Hallett 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, October 7, 2009 7:54:25 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Fw: Strong earthquakes rock South Pacific 7.8 AND 7.3 -Quakes

OK, from now on, I`ll let the List know whenever I "get" anything!  
  Believe me, it is not a nice thing to have, as almost all of the things I 
sense include fatalities. 
The actual warning sensations are not nice either. I don`t know why this 
happens, at times I wish it wouldn`t...
I sense quakes, landslides and avalanches with the same sensation, but air 
crashes and such are different, as are weather things, like tornadoes, floods, 
and hurricanes.
I reiterate, `tis weird.
I had an ancestor who did this too; back in the late 1800s she told her coal 
miner hubby not to go to work one day, no matter what. He didn`t go, and was 
the only man in his shift to survive a terrific methane gas explosion in the 
Utah coal mine that day... (The explosion blew a coal car over a mile across 
the valley, as if it were shot from a huge cannon!)
Marshalee


On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 8:00 PM, Sharlene Miyamura  
wrote:

Marshalee,
>
>Please let us know about the crashes, since some of us travel, that would 
>REALLY help!!!  For that matter, any disaster.
>Sharlene
>
>
>On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 3:00 PM, Marshalee Hallett  wrote:
>
>For what it`s worth, I called my friend and former high school Spanish teacher 
>yesterday evening, to inform her that another big quake would be coming soon. 
>I also told her of the other recent quakes, and many more in the past, back to 
>1995. Also plane crashes, and other disasters... 
>>For some reason, I sense these things before they happen. 
>>Weird.
>>Marshalee 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>
>



  

Re: CS>Bone spur

[zoe w]

http://www.bestcmo.com/


Lisa wrote:

What exactly is CMO?

-Original Message-
From: sol [mailto:sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 5:59 PM

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Bone spur

Marshall Dudley wrote:
  
Yes, CMO can be fantastic. I wiped out my arthritis with it about 10 
years ago, and it has never come back.  Great stuff.



So what does it mean if someone did a full course of good quality CMO 
without any improvement whatsoever? I speculate that means the pain 
is/was not caused by actual arthritis?

sol


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RE: CS>Bone spur

[Lisa]

What exactly is CMO?

-Original Message-
From: sol [mailto:sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 5:59 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Bone spur

Marshall Dudley wrote:
> Yes, CMO can be fantastic. I wiped out my arthritis with it about 10 
> years ago, and it has never come back.  Great stuff.

So what does it mean if someone did a full course of good quality CMO 
without any improvement whatsoever? I speculate that means the pain 
is/was not caused by actual arthritis?
sol


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Re: CS>Bone spur

[sol]

Marshall Dudley wrote:
Yes, CMO can be fantastic. I wiped out my arthritis with it about 10 
years ago, and it has never come back.  Great stuff.


So what does it mean if someone did a full course of good quality CMO 
without any improvement whatsoever? I speculate that means the pain 
is/was not caused by actual arthritis?

sol


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Re: CS>gunky dog earss - CS / DMSO

[sol]

MaryAnn Helland wrote:
Hi Dianne.  It would probably depend on if the problem is ear mites, or 
a yeast infection, or both.  CS would help the yeast infection, but not 
the ear mites.  
I believe that with ear mites there are often secondary infections. 
CS/DMSO should help considerably with those, thus allowing any other 
treatments for the mites to be more effective.


I'd also give EIS[CS] orally AS the dog's drinking water. This will cut 
down any other subclinical infections the dog might have, and thus 
reduce the load on immune system. I believe from experience that in my 
pets mites have always been associated with immune suppression.

 sol


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Re: CS>FLU

[zoe w]

Same here EIS(CS),  raw garlic  and Lugol's  do the trick for me.

zoe

sol wrote:
Not me. Haven't had a flu of any kind for the past 7 or 8 years. That 
timing coincides with my starting to mist with EIS [CS] and also with 
stopping getting flu vaccinations.

sol

Trem wrote:


Let's have a show of hands.anyone caught a flu bug this year?





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Re: CS>FLU

[sol]

Not me. Haven't had a flu of any kind for the past 7 or 8 years. That 
timing coincides with my starting to mist with EIS [CS] and also with 
stopping getting flu vaccinations.

sol

Trem wrote:


Let's have a show of hands.anyone caught a flu bug this year?



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Re: CS>Bone spur

[zoe w]

Yes it is hon,  and bully for you for finding the right stuff.

zoe


Marshalee Hallett wrote:
LOL! I sure didn`t feel very young in 1996 when I was literally dying 
with Lyme Disease! Thanks to CS, CMO, Vanadium, Pug dogs and good 
friends, I now feel that life is still worth living!

Marshalee


On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 11:00 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick > wrote:


Just a mere youngster Marshalee!  dee


On 8 Oct 2009, at 16:56, Marshalee Hallett wrote:


I don`t take anything now, other than CS and vitamins and
minerals. Not bad for a 57-year old fat lady!
Marshalee



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Re: CS>Bone spur

[Marshalee Hallett]

LOL! I sure didn`t feel very young in 1996 when I was literally dying with
Lyme Disease! Thanks to CS, CMO, Vanadium, Pug dogs and good friends, I now
feel that life is still worth living!Marshalee


On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 11:00 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:

> Just a mere youngster Marshalee!  dee
>
> On 8 Oct 2009, at 16:56, Marshalee Hallett wrote:
>
>
>> I don`t take anything now, other than CS and vitamins and minerals. Not
>> bad for a 57-year old fat lady!
>> Marshalee
>>
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RE: CS>Compendium of daily protocols

[Lisa]

Hi Sol,

Can you share your "recipe" for eye drops? What ratio? I'd like to find out
whether or not I can improve my eyesight a bit by using drops (knowing that
DMSO can possibly help that).

Also, did you mean EIS-MMS-DMSO combo OR indeed MSM...I have both now (my
MMS arrive today -- yea)!

Lisa

-Original Message-
From: sol [mailto:sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 4:18 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Compendium of daily protocols

J- Lee wrote:

> *Or, are you one of the fortunate who truly never get sick*?
I mist my eyes and inhale the mist at the same time (with straight EIS 
[CS] my homemade, about 12 ppm). I do this while out in public if 
someone sneezes or coughs on or near me, and religiously as soon as I 
get back to my car after shopping or other public excursions. As long as 
I do this faithfully, no exceptions, I don't get sickat all.
> Finally, how long have you been doing this?
going on 7 or 8 years

FWIW, I also use my EIS as mouthwash, swishing and holding as long as I 
can or have time for. For nebulizing (pet with chronic upper respiratory 
infection that sometimes needs a bit of extra help) I use a mix of 
EIS-MSM-DMSO. For eye and nose drops, a mix of EIS-DMSO. For most 
topical uses I add varying amounts of DMSO to my silver. I rarely add 
peroxide to my EIS anymore.

I no longer swallow any EIS on a daily basis, but I take about 4 oz for 
any GI upset. My cats get straight EIS as their drinking water. Moving 
from 50/50 EIS/distilled water to undiluted seems to have really helped 
my asthmatic cat. We have controlled her environment to the extent that 
she was only having approx 1 attack per year, but since switching to 
straight EIS as her only drinking water, she is way overdue for her 
annual attack, LOL.
sol


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Re: CS>Compendium of daily protocols

[sol]

J- Lee wrote:


*Or, are you one of the fortunate who truly never get sick*?
I mist my eyes and inhale the mist at the same time (with straight EIS 
[CS] my homemade, about 12 ppm). I do this while out in public if 
someone sneezes or coughs on or near me, and religiously as soon as I 
get back to my car after shopping or other public excursions. As long as 
I do this faithfully, no exceptions, I don't get sickat all.

Finally, how long have you been doing this?

going on 7 or 8 years

FWIW, I also use my EIS as mouthwash, swishing and holding as long as I 
can or have time for. For nebulizing (pet with chronic upper respiratory 
infection that sometimes needs a bit of extra help) I use a mix of 
EIS-MSM-DMSO. For eye and nose drops, a mix of EIS-DMSO. For most 
topical uses I add varying amounts of DMSO to my silver. I rarely add 
peroxide to my EIS anymore.


I no longer swallow any EIS on a daily basis, but I take about 4 oz for 
any GI upset. My cats get straight EIS as their drinking water. Moving 
from 50/50 EIS/distilled water to undiluted seems to have really helped 
my asthmatic cat. We have controlled her environment to the extent that 
she was only having approx 1 attack per year, but since switching to 
straight EIS as her only drinking water, she is way overdue for her 
annual attack, LOL.

sol


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Re: CS>gunky dog earss - CS / DMSO

[Garnet]

CS alone will leave the ears too wet. Most of the time it is 
yeast
not mites. If the dog has food allergies, most often to the 
grains
wheat in particular, in dog food then the problem will not 
go away

until the allergen is removed. Heavy ear flaps can also keep the
ear overly moist and encourage yeast in which case maintenance
cleaning and treatment must be ongoing.

DMSO is good a drying out moist tissues, but even with DMSO
mixed into the CS I would not be putting a lot of liquid in 
the ear.


ACV is also a good cleaner.

If it is wheat allergy the dog needs to be kept off all 
wheat even

treats. This is probably the most common cause of recurring
ear infections in dogs.

Garnet


http://www.ldndatabase.com/forum
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_Information
Dr Chris Steele, ITV's This Morning supporting LDN
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpjsDK0LPA


MaryAnn Helland wrote:
Hi Dianne.  It would probably depend on if the problem is ear mites, or 
a yeast infection, or both.  CS would help the yeast infection, but not 
the ear mites.  The liquid from the vet would help with ear mites, but 
not a yeast infection.  If it were my dog, I would probably treat for 
both.  I think DMSO added would have value.  JMHO.  MA

On 8 Oct 2009, at 10:40, Dianne France wrote:


Hello group-
We have friends visiting that have brought their older lab with them 
and the poor thing has terribly gunky ears.  She has been using a 
store bought solution for cleaning and vet purchased liquid 
for treating the ears but it never goes away.  My question is would cs 
alone take care of the problem or would you need to put some DMSO in 
with it to penetrate the gunk?  Would this mixture be safe for a dog?

Dianne


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Re: CS>FLU

[Garnet]

I have not found CS alone to be enough to keep me from 
getting the
flu or get me over it when I do get it. That is why I keep 
other flu remedies
but also use my CS. I think it works great with DMSO in a 
nebulizer for
lung stuff and is a good way to get it to the blood stream 
although you
can't take in as much as you would be able to drink, it is 
going directly
to the blood with a nebulizer. Orally I would mix it with at 
least 10% DMSO

to achieve better tissue distribution.

Coughing is a hallmark of H1N1, some run a high fever too 
although
not all. Older people tend not to run as much of a fever. 
But some of

them do.

Pneumonia is what most people die from that get the flu. 
With H1N1
the reason more young people die is that they produce more 
cytokines

which causes fluid in the lungs ~ in H1N1 they are warning about
"Cytokine Storms". Some amount of cytokines are good.

My niece was taken to the hospital with it, she is 20, they 
kept her

there five hours, on oxygen and sent her home with oxygen so she
could breathe.

Garnet


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Leslie wrote:


I either have the flu or pneumonia. Am beginning to feel better but have 
coughed myself silly, sore throat, and one blocked ear. Sinuses have 
bothered me for a month but kept up with the CS. That is all I have 
taken besides cough drops. I was not prepared for this and sure won't go 
looking for leaves. LOL I have been rather disappointed that the CS 
didn't knock it out as I drank a lot all through the day. Sprayed my 
face,nose, ears and throat. It's the cough that has been the worst. Did 
spit up some blood. Oh, Roger mentioned taking some Iodine along with 
CS. Would that help me?? I have some here.
 
Oh, the mold problem mentioned, there is a solution. Get a spray bottle 
and mix 3/4 Hydrogen Peroxide with rest water and spray away. Got this 
info from a man who helped with the FEMA trailers. You can also add to 
your clothes wash and will not discolor.
 
I would avoid that shot no matter what.
 
Best to all.

Leslie

*From:* Roger Barker 
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Wed, October 7, 2009 10:13:06 PM
*Subject:* Re: CS>FLU

On 8/10/2009, at 3:33 PM, Garnet wrote:


OLE is one of the best remedies in my experience
if taken in sufficient amounts. I prefer to boil up
the leaves for 5 minutes and drink with lemon and
honey, easier to digest that capsules which upset
my stomach.


Hi Garnet, do you just pick a cupful (?) or so of leaves straight from 
the tree?


 In answer to the subject matter - Flu. I had a bad dose of flu around 
ten years ago and as I also suffer from mild asthma it really knocked me 
for six. Took a good three weeks before I was up and about again. At 
this time I found out about colloidal silver (from a friend) and have 
never been without is since. In the years since during the winter months 
I've had cold symptoms a good few times but CS has always come to the 
rescue and by morning all has been well. There has been a couple of 
times when my symptoms lasted a couple of days and I was left wondering 
if I'd caught a flu bug and not just an ordinary cold. At no time did I 
have take any time off work but did feel a bit washed out in the evenings. 

 We're just (hopefully) coming to the end of our winter down this a way 
and up until last Sunday I could have reported all the family had 
remained cold and flu free. The dreaded swine flu has been doing the 
rounds of the area so when I awoke Sunday morning with ' the symptoms' I 
got a little concerned. Have spent the last four days, including Sunday, 
treating myself with CS, increased iodine intake, MMS and  Liposomal C. 
Can't say I would have taken time off work but was dammed glad I am 
retired so could take it easy. Appetite was affected as was sleep all 
topped of with head and body aches. Last night (Wednesday) I slept well 
and woke up feeling fine this morning. Drove into town for weekly shop 
and a coffee returning home early afternoon for lunch.  It's now 4pm and 
I still feel tip top so hopefully it's all behind me now. 

All this leads up to the question - seeing as how CS is so good at 
dealing with colds and the flu etc just how is one to tell what one may 
have. When one has a cold and deals with it with CS how will we ever 
know if it was just a cold or something much worse? 


Anyone got any ideas?

Best wishes to all,  Roger B
NZ

P.S. I should maybe add that I've not had any sort of flu shot despite 
my doctors suggestion that I really should being an asthmatic. 





slickpic...@cox.net  wrote:
My son (14) is in his 5th day of the flu.
 Trem mailto:t...@silvergen.com>> wrote: 
=
I have been sort of monitoring the list and haven't seen any posts 
saying they ha

Re: CS>FLU

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

I have ordered some arabinogalactan (immune booster) from iHerb Larry,  
and I already have some beta-glucan as I have been a bit low lately.   
I do not like Vitacost because it took weeks for them to get my order  
to me (UK) but always have good results from iHerb.  dee


On 8 Oct 2009, at 19:22, Larry Biggar wrote:

Dear Marshall, Dorothy and Appreciated! I had a interesting  
challenge last weekend. I awoke coming down with horrible flu  
systems. Body ache hard breathing. So i took a couple of immune  
builders i had bought from VitaCost.com last Summer. One capsule of  
EpiCor #NSI3006991 and one of Immune Booster. I woke up a couple of  
hours later and the symptoms were gone! I could have gotten up to go  
to work! I've had a breathing problem for a few years. So, by this  
time i had made a batch of CS from Silver Puppy. Starting with a few  
sprays to 1oz in the morning now. I felt instant relief but  
continuing the silver. But only took the capsules only the one time.  
I've been really impressed with VitaCost and the Silver Puppy. By  
their professionalism, quality and prices! So check it out!  Larry

Re: CS>FLU

[Larry Biggar]

Dear Marshall, Dorothy and Appreciated! I had a interesting challenge last 
weekend. I awoke coming down with horrible flu systems. Body ache hard 
breathing. So i took a couple of immune builders i had bought from VitaCost.com 
last Summer. One capsule of EpiCor #NSI3006991 and one of Immune Booster. I 
woke up a couple of hours later and the symptoms were gone! I could have gotten 
up to go to work! I've had a breathing problem for a few years. So, by this 
time i had made a batch of CS from Silver Puppy. Starting with a few sprays to 
1oz in the morning now. I felt instant relief but continuing the silver. But 
only took the capsules only the one time. I've been really impressed with 
VitaCost and the Silver Puppy. By their professionalism, quality and prices! So 
check it out!  Larry


--- On Thu, 10/8/09, Marshall Dudley  wrote:


From: Marshall Dudley 
Subject: Re: CS>FLU
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Thursday, October 8, 2009, 10:44 AM


Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
> Unfortunately CS doesn't seem to deal with the cough.  We have always taken 
> it here when we have picked up colds or viruses from other people, and it 
> does lessen the symptoms and shorten the duration, but it doesn't just wipe 
> it out.  As there is no cure for colds I suppose if it did, we would all be 
> millionaires! 

I have wiped out many a cold with EIS and sometimes Olive Leaf Extract.  If you 
catch them early enough, and have a reasonably good immune system, it is quite 
easy to do.

Marshall


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CS>Bone Spur - Apple Cider Vinegar Tea

[sms]

OR, - 
Add a teaspoon of Bragg's Apple Cider Vinegar to a mug of boiling water and
stir in a teaspoon or two of clover honey.  Yummo!  
S-Max

---Original Message---
 
From: zoe w
Date: 10/7/2009 3:45:06 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Bone Spur
 
Well of course if ya drink it straight.  LOLTry putting it in a glass of
juice  it turns grape juice  sort of like winey  flavor.Once you reap
the benefits  you won't mind the taste a bit.But  yes   Dilute the stuff


zoe


MaryAnn Helland wrote: 
Seriously?  What did it taste like?  I mean -- I tried tasting Apple Cider
Vinegar once -- it was AWFUL!  MA





From: zoe w 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2009 5:35:15 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Bone Spur

LOL,  I drank it.   8-) 

MaryAnn Helland wrote: 
Ummm Zoe?  After you put the cayenne pepper in the Bragg's Raw Apple Cider
vinegar -- what exactly did you do with this stuff?  MA








 

CS>Nebulizers -- again

[sms]

Same one I got Dianne.  And, I too, just love it.
S-Max

---Original Message---
 
From: Dianne France
Date: 10/8/2009 8:50:28 AM
To: silver-list
Subject: RE: CS>Nebulizers -- again
 
MA
We just bought one recently and absolutely love it.  We bought the following
thru ebay.  It was the best price I could find for this model.  It's small,
ultrasonic and works off batteries.  
 

  OMRON NE-U22v BATTERY PORTABLE NEBULIZER - BRAND NEW!
Item# 300342998400$169.95 USD1$169.95 USD
Shipping and handling$7.95 USD
Insurance - included
Total$177.90 USD
Payment$177.90 USD
Payment sent to kingof...@yahoo.com

Re: CS>FLU

[Marshall Dudley]

Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
Unfortunately CS doesn't seem to deal with the cough.  We have always 
taken it here when we have picked up colds or viruses from other 
people, and it does lessen the symptoms and shorten the duration, but 
it doesn't just wipe it out.  As there is no cure for colds I suppose 
if it did, we would all be millionaires! 


I have wiped out many a cold with EIS and sometimes Olive Leaf Extract.  
If you catch them early enough, and have a reasonably good immune 
system, it is quite easy to do.


Marshall


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Re: CS>Bone spur

[Marshall Dudley]

Yes, CMO can be fantastic. I wiped out my arthritis with it about 10 
years ago, and it has never come back.  Great stuff.


Marshall

Evans, Antonio F. wrote:

 CMO???


A. Evans/ (OMPA)
 Desk: 202.461.8863 
Fax: 202.565.4679


-Original Message-
From: zoe w [mailto:mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk] 
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 5:14 AM

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Bone spur

Marshalee Hallett wrote:
  
My bone spurs, in feet and spine, all went away since I took CMO for 
arthritis, and have never been back!

Marshalee


CMO
zoe


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Re: CS>FLU

[Marshall Dudley]

No one in my family, me, my wife, daughter and husband, her 3 children 
or my son. All are taking D3, and if it feels like something coming on, 
EIS ( CS ).  That includes both flu and colds.


Marshall

Trem wrote:
I have been sort of monitoring the list and haven't seen any posts 
saying they had kicked up a flu bug.So, have any of you folks been 
flu ridden?  My wife is considering a regular flu shot because she has 
developed a respiratory problem over the years and attributes it to 
mold in our house.  I refuse to buy into it because we have not had 
standing water or continuous lockage into wall cavities.  We do have a 
few small mold like stains on some sheetrock in our basement but I 
tell her she would probably se the same in any average basement.  She 
isn't considering H1N1 vaccine.  I haven't had a shot in 10 years and 
don't plan to have any in the near or distant future.
 
Let's have a show of hands.anyone caught a flu bug this year?
 
Trem



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Re: CS>Bone Spur and ACV

[zoe w]

LOL,   now why does that sound familiar.  :-D


Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
Its ok zoe, I don't know where I read that as I read so many things 
while trawling through different web sites and I can't save 
everything.  Having said that, I often can't find the things I *do* 
save  dee


On 8 Oct 2009, at 16:02, zoe w wrote:




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Re: CS>Bone spur

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

Just a mere youngster Marshalee!  dee

On 8 Oct 2009, at 16:56, Marshalee Hallett wrote:



I don`t take anything now, other than CS and vitamins and minerals.  
Not bad for a 57-year old fat lady!

Marshalee



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CS>iodine

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

has anyone tried Iosol iodine, and if so is it good?  I have the one  
which I thought was Lugols but isn't.  I think the Iosol is more  
expensive and is touted by Wellness Resources. dee



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Re: CS>Bone Spur and ACV

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

Its ok zoe, I don't know where I read that as I read so many things  
while trawling through different web sites and I can't save  
everything.  Having said that, I often can't find the things I *do*  
save  dee


On 8 Oct 2009, at 16:02, zoe w wrote:

Sorry dee,   didn't mean to come across so short. There are a ton of  
myths  circulating on the web  and its really  hard to sort thru whats
true and whats not.   Just because a substance contains some yeast  
and or bacteria  does not mean that its bad for us.
The fact is that the good  yeasts and bacteria  are a great help in  
fighting off the bad ones like  Candida  and will leave the good  
ones in its stead.
ACV. Kombucha, Kefir, Yogurt,  etc   are  all  very beneficial to  
those of us who suffer  from the bad ones.


zoe





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Re: CS>Fw: Strong earthquakes rock South Pacific 7.8 AND 7.3 -Quakes

[Smitty]

> I don't have Smitty's addy.
>Hawaii is on the alert...Smitty are you on-line?
> Debbie

I'm on high ground, so no problem here.
It's funny & a little tragic that when we have
tsunami alerts, a lot of tourists will gather
at various beaches to watch the wave action.
Boy. . . . . will they be surprised one day  !!

Smitty


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Re: CS>Nebulizers -- again

[sms]

Hi MaryAnn,
I just purchased an Omron MicroAir Model NE-U22V nebulizer.
I love this nebulizer and couldn't be happier. This is a fabulous hand held
nebulizer that produces a fine aerosol mist and operates on two batteries
and only weighs 6oz.  You can take it with you anywhere you go.  Below is
the link from the seller I purchased mine from on eBay. 

http://tinyurl.com/yauugcd

S-Max
---Original Message---
 
From: MaryAnn Helland
Date: 10/8/2009 4:08:38 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Nebulizers -- again
 
With the advent of the flu season here (and I'm another one who avoids flu
shots), I decided that it would be prudent to have a nebulizer on hand.  So
I'm finally going to go ahead and buy one -- and of course can't remember
the *best* one to get (CRS disease actively ongoing here).
 
So, dear list members, which one should I get?  Thanks.  MA
  

 

Re: CS>Nebulizers -- again

[zoe w]

I bought the Sigma Neb Compact Ultrasonic Nebulizer Model 3060  from 
ebay  for around

25$  new.   Its in its 3rd year now  and works great.

zoe

Dianne France wrote:

MA
We just bought one recently and absolutely love it.  We bought the 
following thru ebay.  It was the best price I could find for this 
model.  It's small, ultrasonic and works off batteries. 
 

 
OMRON NE-U22v BATTERY PORTABLE NEBULIZER - BRAND NEW! 


Item# 300342998400  $169.95 USD 1   $169.95 USD


Shipping and handling   $7.95 USD
Insurance - included
Total   $177.90 USD
Payment $177.90 USD
Payment sent to kingof...@yahoo.com



Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 04:08:14 -0700
From: marmar...@bellsouth.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Nebulizers -- again

With the advent of the flu season here (and I'm another one who avoids 
flu shots), I decided that it would be prudent to have a nebulizer on 
hand.  So I'm finally going to go ahead and buy one -- and of course 
can't remember the *best* one to get (CRS disease actively ongoing here).
 
So, dear list members, which one should I get?  Thanks.  MA
 



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Re: CS>Bone spur

[Marshalee Hallett]

Cetyl Myristoleate. I used the Duoflex brand, while my old Pug dog took
CetylM. Now I don`t hurt anymore and she is playing like a puppy! You only
take the one course of it, it turns off the T4 cells that eat up the joints,
then you can heal. I took glucosamine and MSM, (sulfur) to help with that. I
don`t take anything now, other than CS and vitamins and minerals. Not bad
for a 57-year old fat lady!Marshalee
PS, I get Vanadium (an element) in my minerals to prevent diabetes, so far
so good.

On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 3:47 AM, Evans, Antonio F. wrote:

>
>  CMO???
>
>
> A. Evans/ (OMPA)
>  Desk: 202.461.8863
> Fax: 202.565.4679
>
> -Original Message-
> From: zoe w [mailto:mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk]
> Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 5:14 AM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>Bone spur
>
> Marshalee Hallett wrote:
> > My bone spurs, in feet and spine, all went away since I took CMO for
> > arthritis, and have never been back!
> > Marshalee
> CMO
> zoe
>
>
> --
>
>

RE: CS>Nebulizers -- again

[Dianne France]

MA

We just bought one recently and absolutely love it.  We bought the following 
thru ebay.  It was the best price I could find for this model.  It's small, 
ultrasonic and works off batteries.  

 


 



OMRON NE-U22v BATTERY PORTABLE NEBULIZER - BRAND NEW!
Item# 300342998400
$169.95 USD
1
$169.95 USD








Shipping and handling
$7.95 USD

Insurance - included


Total
$177.90 USD

Payment
$177.90 USD

Payment sent to kingof...@yahoo.com


Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 04:08:14 -0700
From: marmar...@bellsouth.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Nebulizers -- again





With the advent of the flu season here (and I'm another one who avoids flu 
shots), I decided that it would be prudent to have a nebulizer on hand.  So I'm 
finally going to go ahead and buy one -- and of course can't remember the 
*best* one to get (CRS disease actively ongoing here).
 
So, dear list members, which one should I get?  Thanks.  MA
  
  
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Re: CS>FLU

[zoe w]

Steve,
I use Lugol's ( still the old 10%)  and put 5 drops  IN my EIS 2 oz.  as 
a mouthwash and gargle every morning.   The first little bit  I spit 
out,  the rest of it  gets  drunk.   This keeps me  cold and flu free,  
assists  with a persistant cough  I developed  years ago  as well as 
keeps  my  rotten gums  from being problematic.Not seen any change 
in the gray tho,   that is amazing.


zoe

Norton, Steve wrote:


The iodine might help. I also had been advised to try iodine and I put 
it off till about a month ago. I now use Lugol's daily and have cut 
back on my use of EIS because the iodine seems to be working for me. I 
don't know if it will help a cough though. .
One other change I have noticed is my whiskers turning from grey to 
black. Still seems odd to me when I look in the mirror. Been grey for 
20 yrs and blond before that


.- Steve N

From: Leslie To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed Oct 07 23:54:37 2009
Subject: Re: CS>FLU

I either have the flu or pneumonia. Am beginning to feel better but 
have coughed myself silly, sore throat, and one blocked ear. Sinuses 
have bothered me for a month but kept up with the CS. That is all I 
have taken besides cough drops. I was not prepared for this and sure 
won't go looking for leaves. LOL
I have been rather disappointed that the CS didn't knock it out as I 
drank a lot all through the day. Sprayed my face,nose, ears and 
throat. It's the cough that has been the worst. Did spit up some blood.
Oh, Roger mentioned taking some Iodine along with CS. Would that help 
me?? I have some here. 
Oh, the mold problem mentioned, there is a solution. Get a spray 
bottle and mix 3/4 Hydrogen Peroxide with rest water and spray away. 
Got this info from a man who helped with the FEMA trailers. You can 
also add to your clothes wash and will not discolor. I would avoid 
that shot no matter what. 
Best to all.

Leslie

Re: CS>Bone Spur and ACV

[zoe w]

Sorry dee,   didn't mean to come across so short. 
There are a ton of myths  circulating on the web  and its really  hard 
to sort thru whats
true and whats not.   Just because a substance contains some yeast and 
or bacteria  does not mean that its bad for us.
The fact is that the good  yeasts and bacteria  are a great help in 
fighting off the bad ones like  Candida  and will leave the good ones in 
its stead.
ACV. Kombucha, Kefir, Yogurt,  etc   are  all  very beneficial to those 
of us who suffer  from the bad ones.


zoe


Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:

I stand corrected (very) dee

On 8 Oct 2009, at 13:48, zoe w wrote:


You heard wrong,   those are the very folks  who  need ACV the most.

zoe




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Re: CS>Nebulizers -- again

[Peter Converse]

Hi Mary Ann,

Omron ultrasonic nebulizers have been used or the DIY O2 nebulizer on 
Silvermedicine.com

http://www.quickmedical.com/omron/respiratory/neu22v.html

http://www.silvermedicine.org/nebulizer2.html
 
Cheaper models are better than none, in my experience, if that suits you 
more...much better.

http://www.quickmedical.com/omron/respiratory/nec30-compair-elite-portable-compressor-nebulizer.html


PC
  - Original Message - 
  From: MaryAnn Helland 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 7:08 AM
  Subject: CS>Nebulizers -- again


  With the advent of the flu season here (and I'm another one who avoids flu 
shots), I decided that it would be prudent to have a nebulizer on hand.  So I'm 
finally going to go ahead and buy one -- and of course can't remember the 
*best* one to get (CRS disease actively ongoing here).

  So, dear list members, which one should I get?  Thanks.  MA

Re: CS>FLU

[Norton, Steve]

The iodine might help. I also had been advised to try iodine and I put it off 
till about a month ago. I now use Lugol's daily and have cut back on my use of 
EIS because the iodine seems to be working for me. I don't know if it will help 
a cough though. .
One other change I have noticed is my whiskers turning from grey to black. 
Still seems odd to me when I look in the mirror. Been grey for 20 yrs and blond 
before that

.- Steve N

From: Leslie To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed Oct 07 23:54:37 2009
Subject: Re: CS>FLU

I either have the flu or pneumonia. Am beginning to feel better but have 
coughed myself silly, sore throat, and one blocked ear. Sinuses have bothered 
me for a month but kept up with the CS. That is all I have taken besides cough 
drops. I was not prepared for this and sure won't go looking for leaves. LOL 
I have been rather disappointed that the CS didn't knock it out as I drank a 
lot all through the day. Sprayed my face,nose, ears and throat. It's the cough 
that has been the worst. Did spit up some blood. 
Oh, Roger mentioned taking some Iodine along with CS. Would that help me?? I 
have some here. 
Oh, the mold problem mentioned, there is a solution. Get a spray bottle and mix 
3/4 Hydrogen Peroxide with rest water and spray away. Got this info from a man 
who helped with the FEMA trailers. You can also add to your clothes wash and 
will not discolor. I would avoid that shot no matter what. 
Best to all.
Leslie

Re: CS>FLU

[Peter Converse]

Hi Leslie,

Nebulizing and drinking CS helped me last spring with the pneumonia research I 
did.

Lypo-CS is another possibility for research.

A solution of 50% each of CS/3%H2o2 put in ears till bubbling stops while 
laying on side is another thing people have done in their research.

Another idea...A neti pot or other method of getting salt water into sinuses 
such as putting the face into a big basin of warm salted water.

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/iodine/

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/IodineResearch/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/hypothyroidism/



Peter
  - Original Message - 
  From: Leslie 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 12:54 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>FLU




  I either have the flu or pneumonia. Am beginning to feel better but have 
coughed myself silly, sore throat, and one blocked ear. Sinuses have bothered 
me for a month but kept up with the CS. That is all I have taken besides cough 
drops. I was not prepared for this and sure won't go looking for leaves. LOL I 
have been rather disappointed that the CS didn't knock it out as I drank a lot 
all through the day. Sprayed my face,nose, ears and throat. It's the cough that 
has been the worst. Did spit up some blood. Oh, Roger mentioned taking some 
Iodine along with CS. Would that help me?? I have some here. 

  Oh, the mold problem mentioned, there is a solution. Get a spray bottle and 
mix 3/4 Hydrogen Peroxide with rest water and spray away. Got this info from a 
man who helped with the FEMA trailers. You can also add to your clothes wash 
and will not discolor. 

  I would avoid that shot no matter what. 

  Best to all.
  Leslie


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  Subject: Re: CS>FLU


  On 8/10/2009, at 3:33 PM, Garnet wrote:




  OLE is one of the best remedies in my experience
  if taken in sufficient amounts. I prefer to boil up
  the leaves for 5 minutes and drink with lemon and
  honey, easier to digest that capsules which upset
  my stomach. 




  Hi Garnet, do you just pick a cupful (?) or so of leaves straight from the 
tree? 


   In answer to the subject matter - Flu. I had a bad dose of flu around ten 
years ago and as I also suffer from mild asthma it really knocked me for six. 
Took a good three weeks before I was up and about again. At this time I found 
out about colloidal silver (from a friend) and have never been without is 
since. In the years since during the winter months I've had cold symptoms a 
good few times but CS has always come to the rescue and by morning all has been 
well. There has been a couple of times when my symptoms lasted a couple of days 
and I was left wondering if I'd caught a flu bug and not just an ordinary cold. 
At no time did I have take any time off work but did feel a bit washed out in 
the evenings. 


   We're just (hopefully) coming to the end of our winter down this a way and 
up until last Sunday I could have reported all the family had remained cold and 
flu free. The dreaded swine flu has been doing the rounds of the area so when I 
awoke Sunday morning with ' the symptoms' I got a little concerned. Have spent 
the last four days, including Sunday, treating myself with CS, increased iodine 
intake, MMS and  Liposomal C. Can't say I would have taken time off work but 
was dammed glad I am retired so could take it easy. Appetite was affected as 
was sleep all topped of with head and body aches. Last night (Wednesday) I 
slept well and woke up feeling fine this morning. Drove into town for weekly 
shop and a coffee returning home early afternoon for lunch.  It's now 4pm and I 
still feel tip top so hopefully it's all behind me now. 


  All this leads up to the question - seeing as how CS is so good at dealing 
with colds and the flu etc just how is one to tell what one may have. When one 
has a cold and deals with it with CS how will we ever know if it was just a 
cold or something much worse? 


  Anyone got any ideas?


  Best wishes to all,  Roger B
  NZ


  P.S. I should maybe add that I've not had any sort of flu shot despite my 
doctors suggestion that I really should being an asthmatic. 








  slickpic...@cox.net wrote:
  My son (14) is in his 5th day of the flu.
   Trem  wrote: =
  I have been sort of monitoring the list and haven't seen any posts saying 
they had kicked up a flu bug.So, have any of you folks been flu ridden?  My 
wife is considering a regular flu shot because she has developed a respiratory 
problem over the years and attributes it to mold in our house.  I refuse to buy 
into it because we have not had standing water or continuous lockage into wall 
cavities.  We do have a few small mold like stains on some sheetrock in our 
basement but I tell her she would probably se the same in any average basement. 
 She isn't considering H1N1 vaccine

Re: CS>Bone Spur and ACV

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

I stand corrected (very) dee

On 8 Oct 2009, at 13:48, zoe w wrote:


You heard wrong,   those are the very folks  who  need ACV the most.

zoe




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Re: CS>gunky dog earss - CS / DMSO

[MaryAnn Helland]

Hi Dianne.  It would probably depend on if the problem is ear mites, or a yeast 
infection, or both.  CS would help the yeast infection, but not the ear mites.  
The liquid from the vet would help with ear mites, but not a yeast infection.  
If it were my dog, I would probably treat for both.  I think DMSO added would 
have value.  JMHO.  MA

On 8 Oct 2009, at 10:40, Dianne France wrote:

Hello group-
>We have friends visiting that have brought their older lab with them and the 
>poor thing has terribly gunky ears.  She has been using a store bought 
>solution for cleaning and vet purchased liquid for treating the ears but it 
>never goes away.  My question is would cs alone take care of the problem or 
>would you need to put some DMSO in with it to penetrate the gunk?  Would this 
>mixture be safe for a dog?
>Dianne
>
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CS>Bone Spur and ACV

[Annice]

I have a rash that is associated with my candida, I drink a glass of water 
every day with a TBL spoon ACV in it. Sometimes two. It keeps the rash away.
If I stop drinking it the rash returns,It;s not a cure for me but it is a great 
help, because the rash is very painful.
I have also noticed that since I have been taking ACV My elbows are very 
smooth. Otherwise they are like sandpaper.
Hope this helps
 

Re: CS>Nebulizers -- again

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

I have a Medisana (the one with the little spout) and its brilliant.   
dee

On 8 Oct 2009, at 12:08, MaryAnn Helland wrote:

With the advent of the flu season here (and I'm another one who  
avoids flu shots), I decided that it would be prudent to have a  
nebulizer on hand.  So I'm finally going to go ahead and buy one --  
and of course can't remember the *best* one to get (CRS disease  
actively ongoing here).


So, dear list members, which one should I get?  Thanks.  MA

Re: CS>Bone Spur and ACV

[zoe w]

You heard wrong,   those are the very folks  who  need ACV the most.

zoe

Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
I had heard that ACV is not good for people with candida (thrush) 
issues though.  dee


On 8 Oct 2009, at 09:31, djphe...@att.net wrote:




I wonder if anything natural I could take would disolve it?
Donna ACS


I have heard about Apple Cider Vinegar helping to dissolve them. I 
mix equal parts ACV with mother, lemon juice, and raw honey and take 
2 Tablespoons when I remember. It's a bit tangy, but the honey helps 
a lot, and it's all good for you.

My husband took some when his back was bothering him. Seemed to help.
It's supposed to help lower blood pressure and alkalize the blood, too.
I've also heard of another recipe with equal parts ACV and honey with 
garlic. Now that would be interesting to taste...


Debbie





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Re: CS>gunky dog earss - CS / DMSO

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

It would be safe but I doubt it would be any good as mites are too big  
to be killed by CS.  It would kill any secondary infection though.   
dee PS Thornit and oil are good for killing ear mites but only UK do  
it I believe.


On 8 Oct 2009, at 10:40, Dianne France wrote:


Hello group-
We have friends visiting that have brought their older lab with them  
and the poor thing has terribly gunky ears.  She has been using a  
store bought solution for cleaning and vet purchased liquid for  
treating the ears but it never goes away.  My question is would cs  
alone take care of the problem or would you need to put some DMSO in  
with it to penetrate the gunk?  Would this mixture be safe for a dog?

Dianne

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Re: CS>FLU

[Peter Converse]

Hi Trem,

If inclined, you may have an environmental house inspector in your area who can 
run some tests to investigate the possible mold issue and its severity. Some of 
the worst molds, I have read, are not as visible as we'd expect but can cause 
severe health problems from A to Z which can go undiagnosed or misdiagnosed for 
years if not addressed at the root by a physician with a background in this 
area. Hopefully, this is not the situation in your case.

Here's one doc claiming to have a handle on this issue:

http://www.personalconsultcart.com/webdocs/Items/Details13.cfm

 I read some stats on Dr. Mercola's site a while back which seemed to support 
the opinion that flu shots are ineffective in preventing influenza. I also 
wonder if, from what I've read, that they may actually cause more illnesses 
than they prevent in the long run.

*A possible research project which might interest you when the right time 
arises is making some Lypospheric EIS by following Brooks' recipe for Lypo-C 
and subsituting EIS for all the DW used and leaving out the vitamin C. This 
project could be combined with another involving nebulized EIS.*

Boosting the immune system with Immutol, for instance, or mushroom extracts may 
be another area of research to consider. Supplementing with L-Lysine and 
Vitamin C, selenium, zinc, Vit. A, Vit. E, Vit. D, B Vitamins and reduced 
glutathione in Lypo form or with its precusor amino acids avavilable through 
undenatured whey protein are more possibilities. Increasing consumption of 
antioxidants other than those already mentioned is another idea. Good old 
garlic and ginger need to be remembered too. Allimax products are another 
possibility. 

These are a few research ideas to consider, as stated, and are not medical 
advice. Please consult your physician for diagnosing and treating medical 
conditions and for any medical advice you may need.

Peter

p.s. I have picked up flu bugs this year but my research in eradicating them 
was useful to me. Greater prevention is my next area of research.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Trem 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 10:06 PM
  Subject: CS>FLU


  I have been sort of monitoring the list and haven't seen any posts saying 
they had kicked up a flu bug.So, have any of you folks been flu ridden?  My 
wife is considering a regular flu shot because she has developed a respiratory 
problem over the years and attributes it to mold in our house.  I refuse to buy 
into it because we have not had standing water or continuous lockage into wall 
cavities.  We do have a few small mold like stains on some sheetrock in our 
basement but I tell her she would probably se the same in any average basement. 
 She isn't considering H1N1 vaccine.  I haven't had a shot in 10 years and 
don't plan to have any in the near or distant future.

  Let's have a show of hands.anyone caught a flu bug this year?

  Trem

Re: CS>Bone Spur and ACV

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

I had heard that ACV is not good for people with candida (thrush)  
issues though.  dee


On 8 Oct 2009, at 09:31, djphe...@att.net wrote:




I wonder if anything natural I could take would disolve it?
Donna ACS


I have heard about Apple Cider Vinegar helping to dissolve them. I  
mix equal parts ACV with mother, lemon juice, and raw honey and take  
2 Tablespoons when I remember. It's a bit tangy, but the honey helps  
a lot, and it's all good for you.

My husband took some when his back was bothering him. Seemed to help.
It's supposed to help lower blood pressure and alkalize the blood,  
too.
I've also heard of another recipe with equal parts ACV and honey  
with garlic. Now that would be interesting to taste...


Debbie





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RE: CS>Fw: Strong earthquakes rock South Pacific 7.8 AND 7.3 -Quakes

[Evans, Antonio F.]

Way to go Marshalee! Keep us all posted. How can I strengthen my ability
to feel these big episodes??? 


A. Evans/ (OMPA)
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From: Donna [mailto:dscroggs44...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 9:28 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Fw: Strong earthquakes rock South Pacific 7.8 AND 7.3
-Quakes

That is a great gift you have!
Donna ACS

> For what it`s worth, I called my friend and former high school Spanish

> teacher yesterday evening, to inform her that another big quake would 
> be coming soon. I also told her of the other recent quakes, and many 
> more in the past, back to 1995. Also plane crashes, and other 
> disasters...
> For some reason, I sense these things before they happen.
> Weird.
> Marshalee
>
> On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 6:53 PM, Sharlene Miyamura 
> mailto:fire888ea...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> The alert has been cancelled, we are on tsunami advisory now.
>  
> Sharlene
>
> On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 2:47 PM, Deborah Gerard
> mailto:devorah...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
>
> I don't have Smitty's addy. Hawaii is on the alert...Smitty
> are you on-line?
> Debbie
>
>
>


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Re: CS>Dental Issues

[Peter Converse]

Hi Mary Ann,

You can get training for the rigors of this procedure with the Salivation Army.

sorry..couldn't resist

Peter
  - Original Message - 
  From: MaryAnn Helland 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 9:44 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>Dental Issues


  Hi Sharlene -- I'm not Bob, but I've done this and it does not hurt at all.  
The most difficult part of it is dealing with the saliva from holding one's 
mouth open for an extended period of time.  Also, I think the electricity 
encourages salivation.  MA  




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  Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2009 7:47:33 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>Dental Issues


  Bob,

  Regarding the Godzilla, did you wrap the wire ends with a wet cloth to apply 
it to the tooth, one on each side?  That must hurt!
  Sharlene



   
  On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Bob Banever  wrote:

Dan,

  In my experience the most effective way of getting rid of dental 
infections in roots, in teeth, or in gums, is by using a DC current of 3 volts, 
switching polarity every three or four minutes.  This can easily be done with a 
device known as the Godzilla.  This method rarely fails... and the bacteria are 
killed usually within 6 minutes no matter where they reside.  Go to 
microelectricitygermkiller group on Yahoo... You can make your own device for 
less than $10.00.  It has saved me many visits to the dentists office.

Bob
- Original Message - From: "Dan Nave"  

To: 

Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 10:53 AM 

Subject: Re: CS>Dental Issues



My experience has been that swishing and brushing CS helps only with
surface infection and plaque.

If you have pockets of infection, you would need to use something like
CS with 20%, by volume, of DMSO.  Swish this in the mouth for up to 5
minutes.  Repeat daily for as long as it takes, depending on how bad
the infections are.  The DMSO will allow the CS to penetrate the
tissues.  Otherwise, the CS will only work on the surface tissues.

Also, get one of those rubber dental probes, such as they used to have
on the bottom of toothbrushes years back.  Use the point, gently, to
trace between the teeth and gum, with the tip pointing towards the
gum.  Then insert the rubber tip between each pair of teeth and and
press Up or Down towards the gum (on the upper jaw, press up, on the
lower jaw, press down).  This presses the puss out of the pockets.
You can press the gums with your finger too, from the gum towards the
tooth for deep pockets on the sides of teeth.

I know DMSO tastes terrible, but one can get used to it (I did), and
it is not as bad as some other things...

This WILL get rid of most of the problem.

MMS has been known to help with killing germs and tightening gums, but
I have read many reports of people who indicate that it affected their
enamel because it was too acidic.  Be careful...

Dan

On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 9:46 AM, Ruth Bertella  wrote:

  I went to the dentist yesterday. Apparently my periodontal disease is back
  (well, I'm thinkin it never fully goes away - ya must have to stay very
  diligent forever). Or at least it's a big problem again (wonder why 
nothing
  was said 6 months ago?). I thought I had conquered this back in 2005 with
  diligent cleaning and almost obsessive use/swishing of CS. I only had a
  minimal amount of plaque (less than most patients they said).

  Some of my teeth have gotten loose this time as well. There is only one
  that is noticeable to me. But on the xrays you can see where the bone is
  deteriorating. The dentist said this will spread and the worst teeth 
should
  probably be pulled. And the "pockets" in the gums have enlarged again. He
  wrote an rx for doxycycline and wants me to see a periodontist. I did not
  fill the rx and don't intend to see any other doctors. I told him this, 
and
  about CS, and he wants to see me again on 11/5/09 to see how I progress 
with
  my 'home remedies'. LOL He's not against my using home remedies, but of
  course says he can't professionally endorse them either. He's giving me
  time to try to fix things before making further recommendations. (IF I fix
  everything, he will probably want to do two crowns and possibly redo my
  upper partial to accommodate the crown that has broken. The other is a
  cavity on the lower back molar at the gum line in the very back hardest to
  reach place - so he wants to crown instead of filling the cavity? go
  figure!))

  I know I can mostly handle the pockets with very, very diligent muliple
  times daily swishing CS. But it seems a while back, someone posted about a
  protocol that actually "tightened" their teeth. Anyone remember that?
  

CS>Nebulizers -- again

[MaryAnn Helland]

With the advent of the flu season here (and I'm another one who avoids flu 
shots), I decided that it would be prudent to have a nebulizer on hand.  So I'm 
finally going to go ahead and buy one -- and of course can't remember the 
*best* one to get (CRS disease actively ongoing here).

So, dear list members, which one should I get?  Thanks.  MA

Re: CS>FLU

[Ode Coyote]

HARUUUCHIMA  


or maybe DIHAATZU.

But not Gebaleshu.



Ode



Chuck
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Re: CS>FLU

[Ode Coyote]

  Nope, nor last year or the year before.
 Year before that, maybe twice and lasted for a couple of days and never 
got very bad...no biggie.


 I did get an eye infection [staph]  that I got CS to, too late, last summer.
 CS slowed it down, but didn't quite do the job.
 Wound up with a 31 tooth toothache on a weekend and bleeding 
sinuseswas seriously considering the "12 gauge cure" for a while there 
if I hadn't had some leftover opiates I didn't use before then.

 Penicillin knocked off what was left.

Ode


At 07:06 PM 10/7/2009 -0700, you wrote:
I have been sort of monitoring the list and haven't seen any posts saying 
they had kicked up a flu bug.So, have any of you folks been flu 
ridden?  My wife is considering a regular flu shot because she has 
developed a respiratory problem over the years and attributes it to mold 
in our house.  I refuse to buy into it because we have not had standing 
water or continuous lockage into wall cavities.  We do have a few small 
mold like stains on some sheetrock in our basement but I tell her she 
would probably se the same in any average basement.  She isn't considering 
H1N1 vaccine.  I haven't had a shot in 10 years and don't plan to have any 
in the near or distant future.


Let's have a show of hands.anyone caught a flu bug this year?

Trem



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CS>killing bacteria in general

[Ode Coyote]

 Wonder why everything only kills 99.9 % of germs?


If I was that .1% left alive, I'd be really pissed about my family and 
obviously strong enough to do something about it.


 But not being that .1%, I want something that kills those FIRST !
 I can go after the whimpy ones later.

Ode



Gough added studies have also shown that within 30 seconds ozone kills
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RE: CS>Bone spur

[Evans, Antonio F.]

 CMO???


A. Evans/ (OMPA)
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Fax: 202.565.4679

-Original Message-
From: zoe w [mailto:mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk] 
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 5:14 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Bone spur

Marshalee Hallett wrote:
> My bone spurs, in feet and spine, all went away since I took CMO for 
> arthritis, and have never been back!
> Marshalee
CMO
zoe


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CS>gunky dog earss - CS / DMSO

[Dianne France]

Hello group-

We have friends visiting that have brought their older lab with them and the 
poor thing has terribly gunky ears.  She has been using a store bought solution 
for cleaning and vet purchased liquid for treating the ears but it never goes 
away.  My question is would cs alone take care of the problem or would you need 
to put some DMSO in with it to penetrate the gunk?  Would this mixture be safe 
for a dog?

Dianne
  
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Re: CS>Bone Spur

[zoe w]

Believe me,  if you had one you wouldn't have to ask.   They are quite 
painful  no matter where they manifest themselves.   They are caused by 
an abnormal buildup of calcium where it doesn't belong.   Sometimes you 
will see the lump,  but not always.  An x-ray  will confirm the diagnosis.


zoe


Fuzzmom wrote:
What are bone spurs an how do you know if you have them? i mean what 
do they feeel..r look like?

- Original Message - From: "Gayla Roberts" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 12:58 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Bone Spur


I don't have an answering post yet, so I will chime in here. The 
recipe I am
familiar with is 1 tablespoon ACV (apple cider vinegar - preferrably 
raw,
like Bragg's) and work up to 1 teaspoon of cayenne. Mix in 1 cup of 
warm or

cool water and drink/
Gayla
Bob and Gayla Roberts
Always Enough Ranch
Acampo, CA
- Original Message - From: "Peter Converse" 


To: "zoe w" ; 
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 4:42 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Bone Spur



Hi Zoe,

Do you have the recipe?

Peter

- Original Message - From: "zoe w" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 5:40 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Bone Spur


Once upon a time I had bonespurs on both heels- quite painful   and 
one

on my wrist just below the thumb joint  which interfered with thumb
movement and was also quite painful.

I also had  some painful hemorrhoids  for which someone advised I put
some cayenne pepper  in some Bragg's  Raw Apple Cider vinegar.   This
seemed really strange to me  but others on the list verified it 
worked so
I tried it.Not only did it clear the rrhoids  after about 3 
weeks  I

noticed that all the bone spurs were gone as well.   That was several
years ago and  none have  come back.

zoe


Dan Nave wrote:

This was written by ransley a few months ago.  It may relate to your
inquiry about bone spur mitigation...

Dan


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From:  
Date: Fri, May 15, 2009 at 7:20 AM
Subject: RE: CS>Synopsis of my experience with Magnesium Bicarbonate
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Cc: "M. G. Devour" 


Mike wrote:

Do you take these magnesium doses on an empty stomach? You say you 
did

this
mostly at night, so I'm wondering how long after meals or snacking...

When you get a chance would you please describe what you're doing 
with

(digestive enzymes), as well as product source and maybe pointers to
information you've found useful? I think either or both of these
therapies
may end up being part of my own path to recovery.




Hey Mike-

Sorry to take so long, been out of town for a few days.

Yes, on empty stomach, 2 hours minimum after eating anything and
preferably
not having eaten too much at that time just to be sure. Sometimes 3-4
hours
since I was really serious about getting the best effect of this. 
I did

it
at night merely because magnesium is calming and inducing of sleep 
and

because some of these effects demanded being still.

I have another reason for getting into enzymes. My wife has a breast
lump
that was not diagnosed as cancerous, but the surgeon tried to 
scare her

into
immediate surgery. We are limited in our options about that here
especially
because of medical mega-corporations moving into the area. So we're
going
alternative. Enzymes are part of what we're doing and I'm doing
everything
she's doing just on general principle. Besides, I have a few lumps 
and

such
scattered around and want to see what enzymes will do for them.

There are many excellent enzymes out there, so many that it is
confusing,
but I was really impressed when Bragg's got into the act:
www.braggzyme.com.
It seems to me that Bragg's doesn't get into something that they 
don't

totally believe in. I listened to the audio at that site by William
Wong,
over and over and decided this was for me.

We ordered ours from Fubao Health Store in San Francisco and were
pleased
with their price and their free shipping deal over $99. Delivery was
timely.

My wife is eating raw Daikon Radish as part of her enzyme effort.
Supposedly
they help disperse fibro-tumors. We are also considering Lumbrokinase
which
is fairly new. I'd really like to hear from anyone who has taken it.

Hope this helps, Bob/DaddyBob



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Re: CS>Bone Spur

[zoe w]

That works too,   Sorry for the delay,   I wasn't at the PC  for a while.

zoe


Gayla Roberts wrote:
I don't have an answering post yet, so I will chime in here. The 
recipe I am familiar with is 1 tablespoon ACV (apple cider vinegar - 
preferrably raw, like Bragg's) and work up to 1 teaspoon of cayenne. 
Mix in 1 cup of warm or cool water and drink/

Gayla
Bob and Gayla Roberts
Always Enough Ranch
Acampo, CA
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To: "zoe w" ; 
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 4:42 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Bone Spur




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Re: CS>Bone spur

[zoe w]

Marshalee Hallett wrote:
My bone spurs, in feet and spine, all went away since I took CMO for 
arthritis, and have never been back!

Marshalee

CMO
zoe


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CS>Bone Spur and ACV

[djphelps]

>I wonder if anything natural I could take would disolve it?
>Donna ACS

I have heard about Apple Cider Vinegar helping to dissolve them. I mix equal 
parts ACV with mother, lemon juice, and raw honey and take 2 Tablespoons when I 
remember. It's a bit tangy, but the honey helps a lot, and it's all good for 
you.
My husband took some when his back was bothering him. Seemed to help.
It's supposed to help lower blood pressure and alkalize the blood, too.
I've also heard of another recipe with equal parts ACV and honey with garlic. 
Now that would be interesting to taste...

Debbie


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Re: CS>FLU

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

Unfortunately CS doesn't seem to deal with the cough.  We have always  
taken it here when we have picked up colds or viruses from other  
people, and it does lessen the symptoms and shorten the duration, but  
it doesn't just wipe it out.  As there is no cure for colds I suppose  
if it did, we would all be millionaires!  I don't know what the MO is  
for coughs so if I did, I suppose it would explain why CS doesn't stop  
it.
One thing, proteolytic enzymes are supposed to be a good thing to stop  
viruses, because they eat the protein coating that viruses wrap around  
themselves to stop the immune system from attacking them.  dee


On 8 Oct 2009, at 05:54, Leslie wrote:



I either have the flu or pneumonia. Am beginning to feel better but  
have coughed myself silly, sore throat, and one blocked ear. Sinuses  
have bothered me for a month but kept up with the CS. That is all I  
have taken besides cough drops. I was not prepared for this and sure  
won't go looking for leaves. LOL I have been rather disappointed  
that the CS didn't knock it out as I drank a lot all through the  
day. Sprayed my face,nose, ears and throat. It's the cough that has  
been the worst. Did spit up some blood. Oh, Roger mentioned taking  
some Iodine along with CS. Would that help me?? I have some here.


Oh, the mold problem mentioned, there is a solution. Get a spray  
bottle and mix 3/4 Hydrogen Peroxide with rest water and spray away.  
Got this info from a man who helped with the FEMA trailers. You can  
also add to your clothes wash and will not discolor.


I would avoid that shot no matter what.

Best to all.
Leslie

Re: CS>Bone Spur

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

I quite like it!  dee

On 7 Oct 2009, at 23:39, MaryAnn Helland wrote:

Seriously?  What did it taste like?  I mean -- I tried tasting Apple  
Cider Vinegar once -- it was AWFUL!  MA

Re: CS>FLU

[cking001]

Yes, One oz of CS ...one tsp of DMSO...I chug it.
Gets the CS to places it can't otherwise get to.

Chuck
By Day, Enlighten; By Night, Endarken.


On 10/8/2009 1:19:05 AM, Leslie (leslie1...@windstream.net) wrote:
> You mix the cs with DMSO and take internally?? Thanks,
> Lee )leslie3...@yahoo.com
> - Original Message -
> From: 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 9:39 PM
> Subject: Re: CS>FLU
> 
> 
> Nope,
> Plan is a daily ounce of CS with DMSO to keep it away, with Humbles
> MMS1 and MMS2 held in reserve.
> 
> Chuck
> You go to heavenGod sneezes... What do you say?
> 
> 
> On 10/7/2009 10:06:30 PM, Trem (t...@silvergen.com) wrote:
> > I have been sort of monitoring the list and
> >
> haven't seen any posts saying they had kicked up a flu bug.   So, have any
> > of you folks been flu ridden? My wife is considering a regular flu shot
> > because she has developed a respiratory problem over the years and
> > attributes it to mold in our house. I refuse to buy into it because we
> > have not had standing water or continuous lockage into wall cavities. We
> > do have a few small mold like stains on some sheetrock in our basement but
> > I tell her she would probably se the same in any average basement. She
> > isn't
> > considering H1N1 vaccine. I haven't had a shot in 10 years and don't
> plan
> > to have any in the n
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