Re: CSsilver and DMSO
Hi Teresa, CS lasts very well if made from distilled water and if it kept contamination free. Soap and deteregents are contaminants. as are some salts and minerals. So CS doesn't last if in a bowl or trough. It doesn't go bad and dangerous It just becomes much less active and slower acting or totally inert. Ref Silver chloride is quite slow compared to CS. But I think this could be a good thing as a slow release of silver could happen beneficially. Ref; silver oxide is probably quite inert but could cause staining. OK, Tony On 23 Jun 2010 at 21:03, Teresa Jessee wrote about : Subject : CSsilver and DMSO I want to mix the cs I made (10ppm) with DMSO to treat hoof and heel bulb fungus on my horse. What ratios do you advise? Does cs loose potency over time? Teresa -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS - Chiggers -local antihistamine - ant bites etc
At 06:16 AM 6/23/2010 -0700, you wrote: Fw: Re: CSchiggers OK, Ode, ...Why does the toothpaste and could add CS to the toothpaste mix here to keep on topic...and would the CS further neutralize the bite reaction? Is the bite acid and the calcium alkaline and penetrating like the ant venom to be able to neutralize it so quickly? Huh? Huh? Huh? We are each a unique creation! Vive la différence. Paula in Palacio Heh...ya got me. Maybe it just acts like a pulling poultice would, a drying agent like calamine? maybe the flavoring...mint oil? An overpowering *other* stimulation? Allah de above? I'll be trying that one. Even a soldering iron...there's something about chigger than makes burn seem less bothersome. Ode s -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSbasics for making CS
www.Atlasnova.com has wire. Also www.CCSilver.com In Australia: http://www.colloidalsilver.com.au/FREE-DIY.html + Silver 18cm Straight Electrodes$20 [AU] a pair The difference between . [.2] and .999 [.9997 ] silver is completely negligible...mostly Copper and darned little of it. The water probably has more..every breath you take or bite of food, for sure more. Ode At 05:57 PM 6/23/2010 -0100, you wrote: It has been a long time since we posted the very basics for making CS using the 3 nines and distilled water. Also, who on the list has available the needed . silver? My computer crashed and I lost all the info I had collected. Will you please help? Thanks a million. M,G.N. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSliposomes ultrasonic cleaners
50/60 Hz is nowhere near ultrasonic. Methinks you be reading the power input label, not what it outputs. Ultrasound is cyclic http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soundsound pressure with a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frequencyfrequency greater than the upper limit of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humanhuman http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hearing_%28sense%29hearing. Although this limit varies from person to person, it is approximately 20 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hertzkilohertz (20,000 hertz) in healthy, young adults and thus, 20 kHz serves as a useful **lower** limit in describing ultrasound. You can hear 60 Hz 60 cycle hum the bane of music lovers the world round...unless it's 50 cycle hum. Like with push/pull audio amplifiers, I imagine that the sound wave pressures are both positive and negative alternating pressure/vacuum cycles. Ultrasonic Cleaner ...at the doggie brain wash frequented by jewelry. Essentially a good audio amp cranked to the max, a piezoelectric tweeter and mind bendingly screaming loud bat music, all played in a bowl of water. Ode At 09:01 AM 6/23/2010 -0500, you wrote: I have been doing some study on the mechanics of ultrasonic cleaners in relation to liposomes and I am curious of some of the ramifications: 1) Ultrasonic cleaners work by producing alternating low and high sound waves. The unit I am using does 50/60 Hz. The low phase produces the bubble and the high phase implodes the bubbles which produces the cleaning action so desired in such cleaners. Question: I can see the low phase producing liposomes, but how are the liposomes immune to the high phase that normally ruptures bubbles? doug -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSsilver and DMSO
It doesn't lose PPMs, how the PPMs are measured changes, not what's there to be measured. Meters can't detect PPM anyhow and will, at first, read much higher than the correlation of two numbers that mean different things. It's like counting Grapefruit to see how many Oranges you have in a basket, but first, you have to wait for the Grapefruit to dry completely up and shrink down to Orange size. That can take several days. Ode To answer your other question -- CS can lose a couple of ppm's within a day or two of being brewed, but thereafter is very stable. So you shouldn't lose any potency over time. MA From: Teresa Jessee tjes...@dishmail.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, June 23, 2010 8:03:11 PM Subject: CSsilver and DMSO I want to mix the cs I made (10ppm) with DMSO to treat hoof and heel bulb fungus on my horse. What ratios do you advise? Does cs loose potency over time? Teresa -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSsilver and DMSO
Most people use 10% DMSO, but any ratio that doesn't burn should be OK. CS might be more potent when really really fresh, but once it stabilizes it pretty much stays that way for years and years. Store at room temps..do not freeze. Ode At 09:03 PM 6/23/2010 -0400, you wrote: I want to mix the cs I made (10ppm) with DMSO to treat hoof and heel bulb fungus on my horse. What ratios do you advise? Does cs loose potency over time? Teresa -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSDigest V2010 #591/Liposomal Vitamin C
Where exactly is his site? On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 5:03 PM, Sandee George oha...@juno.com wrote: check his site - he has alot of information there -- Alan Jones The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)
CSFree lyme resource cd
I send this out every so often for new folks who might not have seen it. Sorry to spam but its the easiest way I know to let newcomers hear about it. If you know someone with Chronic Lyme, ALS, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Alzheimer's, Rheumatoid Arthritis then you might be interested in this free computer CD available at: http://www.lyme-resource.com This was last sent 4/12/10 Scott Adams -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CS(UNCLASSIFIED)
Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE To all (especially new members) You can make a Controlled Current Generator with and Wall DC power supply using a Current Regulating Central Diode they come in various currents 610-1N5297 from Mouser Electronics is for 1 Mill amp You put this in line with power supply with a volt meter you can measure voltage (higher as Silver is further apart and lower as you move silver closer together). It adjust voltage to maintain 1 mill amp rating. You can use almost any voltage from 1.5 volts DC and up, lower voltages just take longer. I have a heavy 1000 mil amp power supply at 12 volts but at 1 mill amp it Puts out over 20 volts. Almost all voltage supplies (cheap plug in wall ones) put Out a higher voltage at less than the rated output. So my 12 volt supply would put Out max (20 plus volts) at start and taper down (voltage) to make the 1 mill amp Output. Harbor Freight puts their multi meters on sale regularly for around $5. Bob Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Re: CSliposomes ultrasonic cleaners
Brooks said that liposomals made with blenders are only about 25% absorbable, compared to 75% in the cleaners. dee On 23 Jun 2010, at 20:58, Nenah Sylver wrote: I have a vitamix blender and wonder how effective such a blender would be on producing liposomes? Note that the vitamix is no ordinary blender! Blades reach 264 mph one way and they can be instantaeously reversed at the same speed to produce a blade affect collisions in excess of 500 mph. . . . It seems to me that the vitamix performance might approach the advertised pressures/forces of Livon Lab's 1700 psi liposomal making procedure though I don't know how to equate mph vs psi? Granted, the vitamix because it can produce high temps, one would need to use care to make lip-C via pulsing and other ways, but that is easy to get around, I should think. = Doug, Someone wrote me privately and said he got good results with his VitaMix. People who took his Lip. C. made in the VitaMix got better. Nenah -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSliposomes ultrasonic cleaners
I do love this list for the oh-so-clever people we have on it! Fascinating stuff. dee On 23 Jun 2010, at 21:08, Norton, Steve wrote: Doug, I am not an expert but here is my opinion on your questions. 1) I think that your ultrasonic transducer operates at a frequency around 42 kHz and not 50/60 Hz. The bubbles that rupture are bubbles of gas. The liposome bubbles that form consist of a phospholipid shell with a water center. Since the liposome bubble is not gaseous it does not rupture in the same way that gas bubbles do. That does not mean that shear forces do not rupture some lipisomes but I expect that the liposomes reform after the shear forces go away. 2) The ultrasonic waves apply shear forces to break the lecithin into individual phospholipids that will then form liposomes See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liposome It should be noted that formation of liposomes and nanoliposomes is not a spontaneous process. Lipid vesicles are formed when phospholipids such as lecithin are placed in water and consequently form one bilayer or a series of bilayers, each separated by water molecules, once enough energy is supplied [8]. Liposomes can be created by sonicating phospholipids in water[3]. Low shear rates create multilamellar liposomes, which have many layers like an onion. Continued high-shear sonication tends to form smaller unilamellar liposomes. In this technique, the liposome contents are the same as the contents of the aqueous phase. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSLiposomal Vit C absorbability vs. sodium ascorbate
I have read that Vit C (ascorbic acid) when mixed with Baking Soda will form sodium ascorbate that is *supposedly *more absorbable than Vit C. I read that Linus Pauling took his Vit C that way. See sources below. My questions are: 1. Is this true? 2. If so, how does the absorbability of sodium ascorbate compare to LET-Vit C? 3. What does the LET-Vit C do that the sodium ascorbate can't do? Thanks, SS Not all forms of vitamin C are created equal. The form of vitamin C taken by the late 2-time Nobelist Linus Pauling was *ascorbic acid** *. Pauling took his ascorbic acid in water and he added some bicarbonate (baking) soda to make a delicious effervescent drink. http://www.vitamincfoundation.org/powder.shtml * * *THE GUMS CAN BE RECONNECTED TO THE TEETH BY TAKING VITAMIN C (ASCORBIC ACID)* (1 tsp) with Arm and Hammer baking soda (1/2 tsp) in 1 inch of water, letting it fizz and then diluting to 1/2 to 1 cup with water, then drinking. The resulting SODIUM ASCORBATE is non-acid, very pure and a thousand times more soluble than vitamin C. SODIUM ASCORBATE IS MORE REACTIVE THAN ASCORBIC ACID (C) in building connective tissue and antibody structures and more effective in killing some viruses and bacteria. *Good Teeth, Birth to Death, Dr. Gerard F. Judd, Ph.D., Chemist, Researcher for 18 years, Professor of Chemistry for 33 yrs.*
Re: CSDigest V2010 #591/Liposomal Vitamin C
I asked the same question, Alan. It was a mistake on Sandee's part. sigh Mike D. Where exactly is his site? On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 5:03 PM, Sandee George oha...@juno.com wrote: check his site - he has alot of information there -- Alan Jones The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution) [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSDental Exam
After many years with no cavities the Dentist said I needed a root canal on my front tooth. I was shocked that EIS allowed that to happen. I brush daily with EIS, H2O2, MSM, Peppermint Oil, and Xylitol. It turned out the tooth had a root canal done years ago but it had two roots. The Dentist said that was the second time he has seen a front tooth with two roots. The previous Dentist in Los Algodones, Mexico did not see the second root. I guess EIS is still doing its job preventing tooth problems. My back teeth have four roots. Brickey
Re: CSDental Exam
Brickey, Don't worry. Get yourself a baby Godzilla (or make your own) and stop the bacterial infection in the root instantly. This device sends a small (3 - 6 volt) DC current thru the tooth and root killing the germs. Go to microelectricitygermkiller group on Yahoo for all the info. Very easy to use, very inexpensive and worth it's weight in gold. I've use this successfully several times. Good luck. Bob - Original Message - From: brick...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 9:07 PM Subject: CSDental Exam After many years with no cavities the Dentist said I needed a root canal on my front tooth. I was shocked that EIS allowed that to happen. I brush daily with EIS, H2O2, MSM, Peppermint Oil, and Xylitol. It turned out the tooth had a root canal done years ago but it had two roots. The Dentist said that was the second time he has seen a front tooth with two roots. The previous Dentist in Los Algodones, Mexico did not see the second root. I guess EIS is still doing its job preventing tooth problems. My back teeth have four roots. Brickey