Re: CSsilver and DMSO

2010-06-24 Thread Tony Moody
Hi Teresa,

CS lasts very well if made from distilled water and if it kept 
contamination free. Soap and deteregents are contaminants. as are some 
salts and minerals.

So CS doesn't last if in a bowl or trough. It doesn't go bad and 
dangerous It just becomes much less active and slower acting or totally 
inert. Ref Silver chloride is quite slow compared to CS. But I think this 
could be a good thing as a slow release of silver could happen 
beneficially. Ref; silver oxide is probably quite inert but could cause 
staining.

OK,
Tony  



On 23 Jun 2010 at 21:03, Teresa Jessee wrote about : Subject : CSsilver 
and DMSO  

 I want to mix the cs I made (10ppm) with DMSO to treat hoof and heel bulb
 fungus on my horse.  What ratios do you advise? Does cs loose potency over
 time? Teresa 
 
 
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Re: CSCS - Chiggers -local antihistamine - ant bites etc

2010-06-24 Thread Ode Coyote

At 06:16 AM 6/23/2010 -0700, you wrote:

Fw: Re: CSchiggers

OK, Ode, ...Why does the toothpaste and could add CS to the toothpaste mix 
here to keep on topic...and would the CS further neutralize the bite 
reaction?  Is the bite acid and the calcium alkaline and penetrating 
like the ant venom to be able to neutralize it so quickly?  Huh?  Huh?  Huh?

We are each a unique creation! Vive la différence.

Paula in Palacio

 Heh...ya got me.  Maybe it just acts like a pulling poultice would, a 
drying agent like calamine? maybe the flavoring...mint oil?

 An overpowering *other* stimulation?  Allah de above?

I'll be trying that one.

Even a soldering iron...there's something about chigger than makes burn 
seem less bothersome.


Ode





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Re: CSbasics for making CS

2010-06-24 Thread Ode Coyote



www.Atlasnova.com has wire.
Also www.CCSilver.com

In Australia:
http://www.colloidalsilver.com.au/FREE-DIY.html

+ Silver 18cm Straight Electrodes$20 [AU] a pair



The difference between . [.2] and .999 [.9997 ]  silver is 
completely negligible...mostly Copper and darned little of it.
 The water probably has more..every breath you take or bite of food, for 
sure more.


Ode


At 05:57 PM 6/23/2010 -0100, you wrote:
It has been a long time since we posted the very basics for making CS 
using the 3 nines and distilled water. Also, who on the list has available 
the needed . silver? My computer crashed and I lost all the info I had 
collected. Will you please help? Thanks a million. M,G.N.


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Re: CSliposomes ultrasonic cleaners

2010-06-24 Thread Ode Coyote



 50/60 Hz is nowhere near ultrasonic.
Methinks you be reading the power input label, not what it outputs.

Ultrasound is cyclic http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soundsound pressure 
with a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frequencyfrequency greater than the 
upper limit of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humanhuman 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hearing_%28sense%29hearing. Although this 
limit varies from person to person, it is approximately 20 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hertzkilohertz (20,000 hertz) in healthy, 
young adults and thus, 20 kHz serves as a useful **lower** limit in 
describing ultrasound.


You can hear 60 Hz   60 cycle hum the bane of music lovers the world 
round...unless it's 50 cycle hum.


Like with push/pull audio amplifiers, I imagine that the sound wave 
pressures are both positive and negative  alternating pressure/vacuum 
cycles.

Ultrasonic Cleaner ...at the doggie brain wash frequented by jewelry.
Essentially a good audio amp cranked to the max, a piezoelectric tweeter 
and mind bendingly screaming loud bat music, all played in a bowl of water.


Ode


At 09:01 AM 6/23/2010 -0500, you wrote:
I have been doing some study on the mechanics of ultrasonic cleaners in 
relation to liposomes and I am curious of some of the ramifications:


1)  Ultrasonic cleaners work by producing alternating low and high sound 
waves. The unit I am using does 50/60 Hz. The low phase produces the 
bubble and the high phase implodes the bubbles which produces the cleaning 
action so desired in such cleaners. Question: I can see the low phase 
producing liposomes, but how are the liposomes immune to the high phase 
that normally ruptures bubbles?


doug



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Re: CSsilver and DMSO

2010-06-24 Thread Ode Coyote


It doesn't lose PPMs, how the PPMs are measured changes, not what's there 
to be measured.


Meters can't detect PPM anyhow and will, at first, read much higher than 
the correlation of two numbers that mean different things.


It's like counting Grapefruit to see how many Oranges you have in a basket, 
but first, you have to wait for the Grapefruit to dry completely up and 
shrink down to Orange size.

That can take several days.

Ode



To answer your other question -- CS can lose a couple of ppm's within a 
day or two of being brewed, but thereafter is very stable.  So you 
shouldn't lose any potency over time.

MA


From: Teresa Jessee tjes...@dishmail.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, June 23, 2010 8:03:11 PM
Subject: CSsilver and DMSO

I want to mix the cs I made (10ppm) with DMSO to treat hoof and heel bulb 
fungus on my horse.  What ratios do you advise?

Does cs loose potency over time?
Teresa

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Re: CSsilver and DMSO

2010-06-24 Thread Ode Coyote



 Most people use 10% DMSO, but any ratio that doesn't burn should be OK.
CS might be more potent when really really fresh, but once it 
stabilizes it pretty much stays that way for years and years.


Store at room temps..do not freeze.

Ode


At 09:03 PM 6/23/2010 -0400, you wrote:
I want to mix the cs I made (10ppm) with DMSO to treat hoof and heel bulb 
fungus on my horse.  What ratios do you advise?

Does cs loose potency over time?
Teresa

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Re: CSDigest V2010 #591/Liposomal Vitamin C

2010-06-24 Thread Alan Jones
Where exactly is his site?

On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 5:03 PM, Sandee George oha...@juno.com wrote:

 check his site - he has alot of information there


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CSFree lyme resource cd

2010-06-24 Thread Scott Adams
I send this out every so often for new folks who might not have seen it.
Sorry to spam but its the easiest way I know to let newcomers hear about it.
 
If you know someone with Chronic Lyme, ALS, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome,
Alzheimer's, Rheumatoid Arthritis then you might be interested in this free
computer CD available at: 
 
http://www.lyme-resource.com
 
This was last sent 4/12/10
 
Scott Adams



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CS(UNCLASSIFIED)

2010-06-24 Thread Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC
Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE

To all  (especially new members)
You can make a Controlled Current Generator with and Wall  DC power supply
using
a Current Regulating Central Diode they come in various currents 610-1N5297
from Mouser Electronics is for 1 Mill amp
You put this in line with power supply with a volt meter you can measure
voltage (higher as Silver is further apart and lower as you move silver
closer together). It adjust voltage to maintain 1 mill amp rating.
You can use almost any voltage from 1.5 volts DC and up, lower voltages just
take longer.
I have a heavy 1000 mil amp power supply at 12 volts but at 1 mill amp it
Puts out over 20 volts. Almost all voltage supplies (cheap plug in wall
ones) put
Out a higher voltage at less than the rated output. So my 12 volt supply
would put
Out max (20 plus volts) at start and taper down (voltage) to make the 1 mill
amp 
Output. Harbor Freight puts their multi meters on sale regularly for around
$5.
 
  Bob
Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE




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Re: CSliposomes ultrasonic cleaners

2010-06-24 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
Brooks said that liposomals made with blenders are only about 25% absorbable, 
compared to 75% in the cleaners.  dee

On 23 Jun 2010, at 20:58, Nenah Sylver wrote:

 I have a vitamix blender and wonder how effective such a blender would be on 
 producing liposomes? Note that the vitamix is no ordinary blender! Blades 
 reach 264 mph one way and they can be instantaeously reversed at the same 
 speed to produce a blade affect collisions in excess of 500 mph. . . . It 
 seems to me that the vitamix performance might approach the advertised 
 pressures/forces of Livon Lab's 1700 psi liposomal making procedure though I 
 don't know how to equate mph vs psi? Granted, the vitamix because it can 
 produce high temps, one would need to use care to make lip-C via pulsing and 
 other ways, but that is easy to get around, I should think.
 =
 Doug,
 Someone wrote me privately and said he got good results with his VitaMix. 
 People who took his Lip. C. made in the VitaMix got better.
  
 Nenah
  


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Re: CSliposomes ultrasonic cleaners

2010-06-24 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
I do love this list for the oh-so-clever people we have on it!  Fascinating 
stuff.  dee

On 23 Jun 2010, at 21:08, Norton, Steve wrote:

 Doug,
 I am not an expert but here is my opinion on your questions.
 
 1) I think that your ultrasonic transducer operates at a frequency around 42 
 kHz and not 50/60 Hz. The bubbles that rupture are bubbles of gas. The 
 liposome bubbles that form consist of a phospholipid shell with a water 
 center. Since the liposome bubble is not gaseous it does not rupture in the 
 same way that gas bubbles do. That does not mean that shear forces do not 
 rupture some lipisomes but I expect that the liposomes reform after the shear 
 forces go away.
 
 2) The ultrasonic waves apply shear forces to break the lecithin into 
 individual phospholipids that will then form liposomes See:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liposome
 It should be noted that formation of liposomes and nanoliposomes is not a 
 spontaneous process. Lipid vesicles are formed when phospholipids such as 
 lecithin are placed in water and consequently form one bilayer or a series of 
 bilayers, each separated by water molecules, once enough energy is supplied 
 [8]. Liposomes can be created by sonicating phospholipids in water[3]. Low 
 shear rates create multilamellar liposomes, which have many layers like an 
 onion. Continued high-shear sonication tends to form smaller unilamellar 
 liposomes. In this technique, the liposome contents are the same as the 
 contents of the aqueous phase.
 


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CSLiposomal Vit C absorbability vs. sodium ascorbate

2010-06-24 Thread Silver Smith
I have read that Vit C (ascorbic acid) when mixed with Baking Soda will form
sodium ascorbate that is *supposedly *more absorbable than Vit C.  I read
that Linus Pauling took his Vit C that way.  See sources below.

My questions are:
1. Is this true?
2. If so, how does the absorbability of sodium ascorbate compare to LET-Vit
C?
3. What does the LET-Vit C do that the sodium ascorbate can't do?

Thanks,
SS

Not all forms of vitamin C are created equal. The form of vitamin C taken by
the late 2-time Nobelist Linus Pauling was *ascorbic acid** *. Pauling
took his ascorbic acid in water and he added some bicarbonate (baking) soda
to make a delicious effervescent drink.
http://www.vitamincfoundation.org/powder.shtml

* *

*THE GUMS CAN BE RECONNECTED TO THE TEETH BY TAKING VITAMIN C (ASCORBIC
ACID)* (1 tsp) with Arm and Hammer baking soda (1/2 tsp) in 1 inch of water,
letting it fizz and then diluting to 1/2 to 1 cup with water, then drinking.
The  resulting SODIUM ASCORBATE is non-acid, very pure and a thousand times
more soluble than vitamin C. SODIUM ASCORBATE IS MORE REACTIVE THAN ASCORBIC
ACID (C) in building connective tissue and antibody structures and more
effective in killing some viruses and bacteria.  *Good Teeth, Birth to
Death,  Dr. Gerard F. Judd, Ph.D.,  Chemist, Researcher for 18 years,
Professor of Chemistry for 33 yrs.*


Re: CSDigest V2010 #591/Liposomal Vitamin C

2010-06-24 Thread M. G. Devour
I asked the same question, Alan. It was a mistake on Sandee's part. 
sigh

Mike D.

 Where exactly is his site?
 
 On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 5:03 PM, Sandee George oha...@juno.com wrote:
 
  check his site - he has alot of information there
 
 
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CSDental Exam

2010-06-24 Thread Brickeyk
After many years with no cavities the Dentist said I needed a root canal on 
 my front tooth. I was shocked that  EIS allowed that to happen. I brush  
daily with EIS, H2O2, MSM, Peppermint Oil, and Xylitol. It turned out the 
tooth  had a root canal done years ago but it had two roots. The Dentist said 
that was  the second time he has seen a front tooth with two roots. The 
previous Dentist  in Los Algodones, Mexico did not see the second root. I guess 
EIS is still doing  its job preventing tooth problems. My back teeth have 
four roots.
Brickey


Re: CSDental Exam

2010-06-24 Thread Bob Banever
Brickey,

   Don't worry.  Get yourself a baby Godzilla (or make your own) and stop 
the bacterial infection in the root instantly.  This device sends a small (3 - 
6 volt) DC current thru the tooth and root killing the germs.  Go to 
microelectricitygermkiller group on Yahoo for all the info.  Very easy to use, 
very inexpensive and worth it's weight in gold.  I've use this successfully 
several times.  Good luck.

Bob
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  After many years with no cavities the Dentist said I needed a root canal on 
my front tooth. I was shocked that  EIS allowed that to happen. I brush daily 
with EIS, H2O2, MSM, Peppermint Oil, and Xylitol. It turned out the tooth had a 
root canal done years ago but it had two roots. The Dentist said that was the 
second time he has seen a front tooth with two roots. The previous Dentist in 
Los Algodones, Mexico did not see the second root. I guess EIS is still doing 
its job preventing tooth problems. My back teeth have four roots.
  Brickey