CSAsbestosis

2011-10-17 Thread Alchemysa

(This was sent to me.  David, Australia)


Hello David. Just a bit of information you may be interested in,I was  
diagnosed with Asbestosis (not cancerous)a few years ago,the  
medication (3 different puffers up to 4 times a day)was improving me  
very slowly,I put colloidal silver in my cpap machine for 2 nights  
then nothing for 2 weeks,then 2 nights again,now I just do the silver  
2 nights about every 4 weeks and no other medication,I'm not 100% but  
I'm a hell of a lot better than I was,I don't like to post on public  
forums,but if you find this information useful feel free to use  
it,BUT NOT my full name! thanks,  Brian




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Re: CSAsbestosis

2011-10-17 Thread Martsmail53
 

You might tell him to try ionic Silver. I used ionic for a  month  and got 
better and better from serious mold exposure. I used to use daily Advair  
for shortness of breath,coughing and wheezing  and puffer and now use on  per 
need bases rarely. My lungs show great improvement. I had a mother that died 
 of mesothelomaI have always wondered is CS  or zeolite in cpap  would 
have helped her. She was taking both orally.

 
 
In a message dated 10/17/2011 2:28:11 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
da...@alchemysa.com.au writes:

(This  was sent to me.  David, Australia)


Hello David. Just a bit of  information you may be interested in,I was  
diagnosed with Asbestosis  (not cancerous)a few years ago,the  
medication (3 different puffers  up to 4 times a day)was improving me  
very slowly,I put colloidal  silver in my cpap machine for 2 nights  
then nothing for 2 weeks,then  2 nights again,now I just do the silver  
2 nights about every 4 weeks  and no other medication,I'm not 100% but  
I'm a hell of a lot better  than I was,I don't like to post on public  
forums,but if you find  this information useful feel free to use  
it,BUT NOT my full name!  thanks,  Brian



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Re: CSAsbestosis

2011-10-17 Thread D Glover
Hi there, I have a further experience with asbestos to add to yours. I have
got some dust inside my lungs from unprotected work many years ago, so far
with no negative effects, but, I do have some asbestos ground into the back
of my neck, and for many years I have experienced annoying white mole type
lesions or inflammations coming up on the back of my neck as a result.
However, just after making my bathing water chlorine 99% free, (and a whole
load of other stuff filtered out), I have noticed that I no longer get these
inflammations/lumps on the back of my neck, which were always prone to
inflammation and itchiness when I touched them. I think the carcinogenic
nature of the chlorine and possibly other compounds in tap water must have
been annoying those bits of asbestos in my skin. I usually shower, and of
course had been inhaling a lot of chlorine vapour, so presumably this would
also cause inflammation in the lungs as well in those more sensitive than me
in that area, so the bottom line is I would recommend getting a whole house
water filter system if you have not already done so, though I guess most of
you have already done that.

With best regards,

Dave Glover

On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 5:31 PM, martsmai...@aol.com wrote:

 **
  You might tell him to try ionic Silver. I used ionic for a  month and got
 better and better from serious mold exposure. I used to use daily Advair for
 shortness of breath,coughing and wheezing  and puffer and now use on per
 need bases rarely. My lungs show great improvement. I had a mother that died
 of mesothelomaI have always wondered is CS  or zeolite in cpap  would
 have helped her. She was taking both orally.

  In a message dated 10/17/2011 2:28:11 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
 da...@alchemysa.com.au writes:

 (This was sent to me.  David, Australia)


 Hello David. Just a bit of information you may be interested in,I was
 diagnosed with Asbestosis (not cancerous)a few years ago,the
 medication (3 different puffers up to 4 times a day)was improving me
 very slowly,I put colloidal silver in my cpap machine for 2 nights
 then nothing for 2 weeks,then 2 nights again,now I just do the silver
 2 nights about every 4 weeks and no other medication,I'm not 100% but
 I'm a hell of a lot better than I was,I don't like to post on public
 forums,but if you find this information useful feel free to use
 it,BUT NOT my full name! thanks,  Brian



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Re: CSThe importance of low current

2011-10-17 Thread Arnold Beland
All you really need is a resistor and an understanding of ohms law.
Here are some links:


*http://phet.colorado.edu/en/simulation/ohms-law*http://phet.colorado.edu/en/simulation/ohms-law

*http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohm's_law*http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohm's_law

*http://www.kpsec.freeuk.com/ohmslaw.htm*http://www.kpsec.freeuk.com/ohmslaw.htm


On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 1:28 AM, Neville Munn one.red...@hotmail.comwrote:



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 From: ragrem...@netzero.net
 Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 00:57:40 +
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: CSThe importance of low current


 This my first post and I am gonna be building my generator very soon.  I
 must decide now, what I should buy.

 There's an article online by a guy lightman who adds a current limiting
 device to his generator.

 A reader added that he keeps the CURRENT around .28 milliamps max, using
 a 30VDC power supply.  I will be using a 12VDC power supply.  Having to wait
 longer because of a low current is OK with me, if in fact having the smaller
 particles is a good thing.

 This guy also uses an aquarium air pump, claiming it helps keep the silver
 particles smaller.

 I know absolutely nothing about electronics but the idea of using
 a high frequency pulsed DC supply just seems logical to me.  I am going to
 try and build the Bruce K. Stenulson version he builds with the
 Experimenters Socket.

 http://www.stenulson.net/althealth/cspulse.htm#E Socket

 Some folks use a TDC meter and yet others a PWT?

 1.  Is running at such low CURRENT really beneficial?  What changes would I
 have to make to the Stenelson pulsed rig to achieve this low current?
 2.  Does the air pump improve the CS?
 # I don't brew any EIS of volume over 250ml (8 ounces) without stirring.

 3.  Which gives a more accurate reading, a TDC meter or a PWT?  Is it safe
 to assume that if I check the resistance of the CS in the jar with my
 multi-meter and, stop the process at the same reading each time, that my PPM
 should be very similar with each batch?
 # I don't use a PWT meter, however, I do use a HM Digital
 EC/TDS/TEMP meter, HM Digital TDS-3 meter, and a HANNA TDS meter, and
 measure readings at regular timed intervals with all three - and there is
 NOTHING substantial between any of them in the scheme of things regarding
 home produced EIS.

 4.  If I wanted to make a half-gallon at a time, would I need to change
 anything?
 # I'd be incorporating some form of stirring method if it were me.

 Purity of water is the primary number one concern!

 N.

 Thank you guys for tolerating such a long post!



CSsmart meter

2011-10-17 Thread jess
silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-l...@eskimo.com;
is this the list that has discussed the smart meter effects?  This morning a 
utility man knocked on the door to inform me that he was installing a smart 
meter on my house and the entire neighborhood. I  live in southern California.  

I just googled and saw it can cause heart irregularity, headaches and sleep 
problems.  The phone # he gave me to call the company is not working. I read 
that a homeowner refused and was charged $4k to keep an analog meter. Does 
anyone know about this subject? 

thanks, Jess

Re: CSThe importance of low current

2011-10-17 Thread D Glover
Hi there, just one or two tips. I use 27V DC  for 70 minutes, using a Techne
temperature regulator (plus or minus 1/200th of a degree or so) set over a
bath containing a beaker containing two litres of single distilled water
(Double and triple distilled are no good, as no reaction will take place),
which has  been minimally exposed to air. I use 99.999% pure silver
available from Alfa Aesar in Germany, a division of Johnson Matthey, 2
meters, cut into 12 electrodes set in a varnished wooden block resting on
top of a non-reactive glass 2  litre beaker, in absolute darkness (light
will make your ions bottom out, and really throw your settings off if you
are aiming for constancy during manufacture, or are calibrating your
equipment for future constancy). The vibrational rate is vastly superior
with the higher purity silver, and consciousness is much clearer in the
higher chakras with this than with, say 99.9% or the 99.99% purity which
some 'kit' retailers distribute.

I noticed that even in complete darkness, leaving ionic silver for any
period of time exposed to the air would allow oxygen to bond with the silver
ions and the sol would turn grey black, with the ions bottoming out, so I
would definitely not be putting air through it. Secondly on the issue of TDS
meters, I tried that, and they are useless. The only way to find out your
silver ppm is to send a sample of what you make (around 20ml) to a lab, they
then add nitric acid to dissolve all groups of ions, and then aspirate the
vapour of that into a high temperature argon plasma, to get highly accurate
readings, by looking at the colour spectrum of the vapour. TDS meters are
not designed at all to measure silver ppm, I have already been down that
road in great depth. The only stirring you need would come from a Techne, or
similar,  temperature regulator pumping water (again, use distilled water in
in the external water bath to prevent ions in vapour of other substances
jumping over into your beaker with the electrodes in and throwing everything
off) in an external bath to insulate the beaker sitting in it.

You can request a lab oven manufacturer to drill holes in the back of a lab
oven for you to put your wires connecting to the electrodes through, this
will do away with the fuss of using an external water bath, and the accuracy
is only slightly less, varying only at the maximum depending on the quality
of oven you buy up to 0.1 or 0.2 ppm silver).

I have never tried the AC generator kits, it just does not seem real to me,
a product that is not affected by light, magnetism, plastic, etc etc, and is
virtually invincible and able to be produced at any ppm you want with an
electrolyte to give uniformly small particles, using high voltage for just a
few minutes, 8 or 10 minutes or whatever it is,  the physics just looks a
little impossible to me, given that the product is still one with a valency
due to missing electrons, (a charged hydrocarbon molecule in plastic will
cause silver ions to stick to the side of the container, and the AC kits I
have seen on the internet are sold with a plastic beaker, plus whenever I
have seen ionic sols, sold as 'colloidal' silver, I can see that in clear
plastic containers the silver has stuck to the side leaving a heavy yellow
deposit-this will be happening just the same even if blue or brown plastic
is used. I always use blue or brown glass and then put that in a cardbard
tube, as any light at all, and plenty does pass though coloured glass, will
ruin your sol.

Hoping that this will be of good help to researchers just starting up.

With best regards,

Dave Glover

.On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 6:12 PM, Arnold Beland abela...@gmail.com wrote:

 All you really need is a resistor and an understanding of ohms law.
 Here are some links:


 *http://phet.colorado.edu/en/simulation/ohms-law*http://phet.colorado.edu/en/simulation/ohms-law

 *http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohm's_law*http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohm's_law

 *http://www.kpsec.freeuk.com/ohmslaw.htm*http://www.kpsec.freeuk.com/ohmslaw.htm


 On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 1:28 AM, Neville Munn one.red...@hotmail.comwrote:



  --
 From: ragrem...@netzero.net
 Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 00:57:40 +
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: CSThe importance of low current


 This my first post and I am gonna be building my generator very soon.  I
 must decide now, what I should buy.

 There's an article online by a guy lightman who adds a current limiting
 device to his generator.

 A reader added that he keeps the CURRENT around .28 milliamps max, using
 a 30VDC power supply.  I will be using a 12VDC power supply.  Having to wait
 longer because of a low current is OK with me, if in fact having the smaller
 particles is a good thing.

 This guy also uses an aquarium air pump, claiming it helps keep the silver
 particles smaller.

 I know absolutely nothing about electronics but the idea of using
 a high frequency pulsed DC supply just seems logical to me.  

RE: CSsmart meter

2011-10-17 Thread Elizabeth Williams

I knew that these meters were coming to my town because they announced it in 
the local city electric newsletter. I had been reading about these things for a 
long time now. So what I did was call my lawyer and see what I could legally do 
to keep them from installing it at my house. I put a note near the meter that 
read, Do not install a smart meter on this home and I padlocked the meter with 
my own lock. The lawyer told me that basically I have a right to not accept 
this in my town. So my lawyer has sent the city a letter stating that I dont 
want this smart meter.

Elizabeth Williams
belzi...@hotmail.com

 



From: jessi...@optonline.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 10:51:35 -0700
Subject: CSsmart meter






silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-l...@eskimo.com;

 
is this the list that has discussed the smart meter effects?  This morning a 
utility man knocked on the door to inform me that he was installing a smart 
meter on my house and the entire neighborhood. I  live in southern California.  
 
I just googled and saw it can cause heart irregularity, headaches and sleep 
problems.  The phone # he gave me to call the company is not working. I read 
that a homeowner refused and was charged $4k to keep an analog meter. Does 
anyone know about this subject? 
 
thanks, Jess  

Re: CSsmart meter

2011-10-17 Thread jess
The man from the utility co just told me that the pulses from the meter travel 
5 miles. he did not install it and I put a note on mine saying please do not 
change my meter .  I got through to Edison So Cal and the rep said at this time 
there is no opt out. They will let me know if the California Public Utilities 
commission decides to allow an opt out list.  Right now I am on their delay 
list.  

I am seeing lots of anti health reasons on the internet and some saying it 
affects privacy issues. Jess

From: Elizabeth Williams 
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 11:18 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: RE: CSsmart meter

I knew that these meters were coming to my town because they announced it in 
the local city electric newsletter. I had been reading about these things for a 
long time now. So what I did was call my lawyer and see what I could legally do 
to keep them from installing it at my house. I put a note near the meter that 
read, Do not install a smart meter on this home and I padlocked the meter with 
my own lock. The lawyer told me that basically I have a right to not accept 
this in my town. So my lawyer has sent the city a letter stating that I dont 
want this smart meter.

Elizabeth Williams
belzi...@hotmail.com

 



From: jessi...@optonline.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 10:51:35 -0700
Subject: CSsmart meter


silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-l...@eskimo.com;
is this the list that has discussed the smart meter effects?  This morning a 
utility man knocked on the door to inform me that he was installing a smart 
meter on my house and the entire neighborhood. I  live in southern California.  

I just googled and saw it can cause heart irregularity, headaches and sleep 
problems.  The phone # he gave me to call the company is not working. I read 
that a homeowner refused and was charged $4k to keep an analog meter. Does 
anyone know about this subject? 

thanks, Jess

Re: CSsmart meter

2011-10-17 Thread Dan Nave
You should be able to do something like install a grounded metal
shield between the meter and your house which would reduce the
strength of any emission into the house.  That should take care of it.

Dan

On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 1:28 PM, jess jessi...@optonline.net wrote:
 The man from the utility co just told me that the pulses from the meter
 travel 5 miles. he did not install it and I put a note on mine saying please
 do not change my meter .  I got through to Edison So Cal and the rep said at
 this time there is no opt out. They will let me know if the California
 Public Utilities commission decides to allow an opt out list.  Right now I
 am on their delay list.

 I am seeing lots of anti health reasons on the internet and some saying it
 affects privacy issues. Jess

 From: Elizabeth Williams
 Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 11:18 AM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: RE: CSsmart meter

 I knew that these meters were coming to my town because they announced it in
 the local city electric newsletter. I had been reading about these things
 for a long time now. So what I did was call my lawyer and see what I could
 legally do to keep them from installing it at my house. I put a note near
 the meter that read, Do not install a smart meter on this home and I
 padlocked the meter with my own lock. The lawyer told me that basically I
 have a right to not accept this in my town. So my lawyer has sent the city a
 letter stating that I dont want this smart meter.

 Elizabeth Williams
 belzi...@hotmail.com


 
 From: jessi...@optonline.net
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 10:51:35 -0700
 Subject: CSsmart meter

 silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-l...@eskimo.com;

 is this the list that has discussed the smart meter effects?  This morning a
 utility man knocked on the door to inform me that he was installing a smart
 meter on my house and the entire neighborhood. I  live in southern
 California.

 I just googled and saw it can cause heart irregularity, headaches and sleep
 problems.  The phone # he gave me to call the company is not working. I read
 that a homeowner refused and was charged $4k to keep an analog meter. Does
 anyone know about this subject?

 thanks, Jess


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RE: CSsmart meter

2011-10-17 Thread Elizabeth Williams

There is a person on another list I am on that sells these doughnut shaped 
things that go around the meter that protect you from the radiation they emit, 
If anyone is interested I can provide a link to his online store, I am not 
affiliated with this person just sharing knowledge.

Elizabeth Williams
belzi...@hotmail.com

 

 Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 15:24:43 -0500
 Subject: Re: CSsmart meter
 From: bhangcha...@gmail.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 
 You should be able to do something like install a grounded metal
 shield between the meter and your house which would reduce the
 strength of any emission into the house. That should take care of it.
 
 Dan
 
 On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 1:28 PM, jess jessi...@optonline.net wrote:
  The man from the utility co just told me that the pulses from the meter
  travel 5 miles. he did not install it and I put a note on mine saying please
  do not change my meter .  I got through to Edison So Cal and the rep said at
  this time there is no opt out. They will let me know if the California
  Public Utilities commission decides to allow an opt out list.  Right now I
  am on their delay list.
 
  I am seeing lots of anti health reasons on the internet and some saying it
  affects privacy issues. Jess
 
  From: Elizabeth Williams
  Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 11:18 AM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: RE: CSsmart meter
 
  I knew that these meters were coming to my town because they announced it in
  the local city electric newsletter. I had been reading about these things
  for a long time now. So what I did was call my lawyer and see what I could
  legally do to keep them from installing it at my house. I put a note near
  the meter that read, Do not install a smart meter on this home and I
  padlocked the meter with my own lock. The lawyer told me that basically I
  have a right to not accept this in my town. So my lawyer has sent the city a
  letter stating that I dont want this smart meter.
 
  Elizabeth Williams
  belzi...@hotmail.com
 
 
  
  From: jessi...@optonline.net
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 10:51:35 -0700
  Subject: CSsmart meter
 
  silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-l...@eskimo.com;
 
  is this the list that has discussed the smart meter effects?  This morning a
  utility man knocked on the door to inform me that he was installing a smart
  meter on my house and the entire neighborhood. I  live in southern
  California.
 
  I just googled and saw it can cause heart irregularity, headaches and sleep
  problems.  The phone # he gave me to call the company is not working. I read
  that a homeowner refused and was charged $4k to keep an analog meter. Does
  anyone know about this subject?
 
  thanks, Jess
 
 
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Re: CSsmart meter

2011-10-17 Thread Guyot Léna
I'd imagine that lessemf.com would probably have something you could  
use to eliminate the hazard from the meter, if worse comes to worse.  
I've phoned them and they're pretty helpful and knowledgeable.


Be well,
Léna
On Oct 17, 2011, at 4:24 PM, Dan Nave wrote:

You should be able to do something like install a grounded metal
shield between the meter and your house which would reduce the
strength of any emission into the house.  That should take care of it.

Dan

On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 1:28 PM, jess jessi...@optonline.net wrote:
The man from the utility co just told me that the pulses from the  
meter
travel 5 miles. he did not install it and I put a note on mine  
saying please
do not change my meter .  I got through to Edison So Cal and the  
rep said at

this time there is no opt out. They will let me know if the California
Public Utilities commission decides to allow an opt out list.   
Right now I

am on their delay list.

I am seeing lots of anti health reasons on the internet and some  
saying it

affects privacy issues. Jess

From: Elizabeth Williams
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 11:18 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSsmart meter

I knew that these meters were coming to my town because they  
announced it in
the local city electric newsletter. I had been reading about these  
things
for a long time now. So what I did was call my lawyer and see what  
I could
legally do to keep them from installing it at my house. I put a  
note near

the meter that read, Do not install a smart meter on this home and I
padlocked the meter with my own lock. The lawyer told me that  
basically I
have a right to not accept this in my town. So my lawyer has sent  
the city a

letter stating that I dont want this smart meter.

Elizabeth Williams
belzi...@hotmail.com



From: jessi...@optonline.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 10:51:35 -0700
Subject: CSsmart meter

silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver- 
l...@eskimo.com;


is this the list that has discussed the smart meter effects?  This  
morning a
utility man knocked on the door to inform me that he was installing  
a smart

meter on my house and the entire neighborhood. I  live in southern
California.

I just googled and saw it can cause heart irregularity, headaches  
and sleep
problems.  The phone # he gave me to call the company is not  
working. I read
that a homeowner refused and was charged $4k to keep an analog  
meter. Does

anyone know about this subject?

thanks, Jess



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Re: CSsmart meter

2011-10-17 Thread Asif Nathekar
I did watch a whole presentation on this by an electrical engineer, I have a 
similar background and appreciated the detail.

Basically this is what I learnt.

1 : Smart Meter operate on a frequency similar to microwaves
2 : Smart meters work on a Cluster / Cloud architecture, meaning one meter does 
not have direct communication with the 'tower' rather they all talk to each 
other and the usage messages are passed on through this network of clustered 
devices.
3 : Like all modern digital communication devices, they vary power depending on 
the need to transmit the data at high quality.

What does this mean.

1: If you cover one up, for example install a faraday cage to shield the 
device, the utilities company will know of the non-communication occurring from 
your node.
2 : if you cover or  shield the device, or reduce the output by limited 
shielding, then it will ramp up the power in as much it needs to transmit the 
signal
3 : Your neighbours meters will still be transmitting unaffected, which will of 
course reach you.
4 : you will be receiving this radiation from multiple sources, from wherever 
your neighbours reside.

this does not mean that we are all done for, rather it means we have to find 
ways around this, I for example take exception to the utilities company 
radiating me without permission, or constantly monitoring my electricity usage, 
and creating a profile of to sell to data aggregators, to create and complete 
my 'profile'.
They can tell how many people are in the house, their approximate ages, devices 
used, how many times a person goes to the toilet at night, and even approximate 
tv watching habits... e.g. many people go to the toilet during a commercial 
break and go to the fridge for a cold drink, or make a coffee. all by live 
electricity usage data. I went to a seminar on this regarding remotely 
monitoring the elderly and their habits to see the state of their health...

just my two pence worth

peace to all,

Asif.





From: Elizabeth Williams 
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 9:28 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: RE: CSsmart meter


There is a person on another list I am on that sells these doughnut shaped 
things that go around the meter that protect you from the radiation they emit, 
If anyone is interested I can provide a link to his online store, I am not 
affiliated with this person just sharing knowledge.

Elizabeth Williams
belzi...@hotmail.com

 

 Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 15:24:43 -0500
 Subject: Re: CSsmart meter
 From: bhangcha...@gmail.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 
 You should be able to do something like install a grounded metal
 shield between the meter and your house which would reduce the
 strength of any emission into the house. That should take care of it.
 
 Dan
 
 On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 1:28 PM, jess jessi...@optonline.net wrote:
  The man from the utility co just told me that the pulses from the meter
  travel 5 miles. he did not install it and I put a note on mine saying please
  do not change my meter .  I got through to Edison So Cal and the rep said at
  this time there is no opt out. They will let me know if the California
  Public Utilities commission decides to allow an opt out list.  Right now I
  am on their delay list.
 
  I am seeing lots of anti health reasons on the internet and some saying it
  affects privacy issues. Jess
 
  From: Elizabeth Williams
  Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 11:18 AM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: RE: CSsmart meter
 
  I knew that these meters were coming to my town because they announced it in
  the local city electric newsletter. I had been reading about these things
  for a long time now. So what I did was call my lawyer and see what I could
  legally do to keep them from installing it at my house. I put a note near
  the meter that read, Do not install a smart meter on this home and I
  padlocked the meter with my own lock. The lawyer told me that basically I
  have a right to not accept this in my town. So my lawyer has sent the city a
  letter stating that I dont want this smart meter.
 
  Elizabeth Williams
  belzi...@hotmail.com
 
 
  
  From: jessi...@optonline.net
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 10:51:35 -0700
  Subject: CSsmart meter
 
  silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-l...@eskimo.com;
 
  is this the list that has discussed the smart meter effects?  This morning a
  utility man knocked on the door to inform me that he was installing a smart
  meter on my house and the entire neighborhood. I  live in southern
  California.
 
  I just googled and saw it can cause heart irregularity, headaches and sleep
  problems.  The phone # he gave me to call the company is not working. I read
  that a homeowner refused and was charged $4k to keep an analog meter. Does
  anyone know about this subject?
 
  thanks, Jess
 
 
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Re: CSsmart meter

2011-10-17 Thread Mike Winslow-Hansen
Hi elizabeth, i am interested in taking a look at the doughnut thing

can you  please forward to me

thanks

Mike
th...@telus.net
 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Elizabeth Williams 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 1:28 PM
  Subject: RE: CSsmart meter


  There is a person on another list I am on that sells these doughnut shaped 
things that go around the meter that protect you from the radiation they emit, 
If anyone is interested I can provide a link to his online store, I am not 
affiliated with this person just sharing knowledge.

  Elizabeth Williams
  belzi...@hotmail.com

   

   Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 15:24:43 -0500
   Subject: Re: CSsmart meter
   From: bhangcha...@gmail.com
   To: silver-list@eskimo.com
   
   You should be able to do something like install a grounded metal
   shield between the meter and your house which would reduce the
   strength of any emission into the house. That should take care of it.
   
   Dan
   
   On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 1:28 PM, jess jessi...@optonline.net wrote:
The man from the utility co just told me that the pulses from the meter
travel 5 miles. he did not install it and I put a note on mine saying 
please
do not change my meter .  I got through to Edison So Cal and the rep said 
at
this time there is no opt out. They will let me know if the California
Public Utilities commission decides to allow an opt out list.  Right now I
am on their delay list.
   
I am seeing lots of anti health reasons on the internet and some saying it
affects privacy issues. Jess
   
From: Elizabeth Williams
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 11:18 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSsmart meter
   
I knew that these meters were coming to my town because they announced it 
in
the local city electric newsletter. I had been reading about these things
for a long time now. So what I did was call my lawyer and see what I could
legally do to keep them from installing it at my house. I put a note near
the meter that read, Do not install a smart meter on this home and I
padlocked the meter with my own lock. The lawyer told me that basically I
have a right to not accept this in my town. So my lawyer has sent the 
city a
letter stating that I dont want this smart meter.
   
Elizabeth Williams
belzi...@hotmail.com
   
   

From: jessi...@optonline.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 10:51:35 -0700
Subject: CSsmart meter
   
silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-l...@eskimo.com;
   
is this the list that has discussed the smart meter effects?  This 
morning a
utility man knocked on the door to inform me that he was installing a 
smart
meter on my house and the entire neighborhood. I  live in southern
California.
   
I just googled and saw it can cause heart irregularity, headaches and 
sleep
problems.  The phone # he gave me to call the company is not working. I 
read
that a homeowner refused and was charged $4k to keep an analog meter. Does
anyone know about this subject?
   
thanks, Jess
   
   
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Re: CSsmart meter

2011-10-17 Thread paul catania
Hi Elizabeth,

I'm interested.

Thanks in advance,

Paul
  - Original Message - 
  From: Elizabeth Williams 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 1:28 PM
  Subject: RE: CSsmart meter


  There is a person on another list I am on that sells these doughnut shaped 
things that go around the meter that protect you from the radiation they emit, 
If anyone is interested I can provide a link to his online store, I am not 
affiliated with this person just sharing knowledge.

  Elizabeth Williams
  belzi...@hotmail.com

   

   Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 15:24:43 -0500
   Subject: Re: CSsmart meter
   From: bhangcha...@gmail.com
   To: silver-list@eskimo.com
   
   You should be able to do something like install a grounded metal
   shield between the meter and your house which would reduce the
   strength of any emission into the house. That should take care of it.
   
   Dan
   
   On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 1:28 PM, jess jessi...@optonline.net wrote:
The man from the utility co just told me that the pulses from the meter
travel 5 miles. he did not install it and I put a note on mine saying 
please
do not change my meter .  I got through to Edison So Cal and the rep said 
at
this time there is no opt out. They will let me know if the California
Public Utilities commission decides to allow an opt out list.  Right now I
am on their delay list.
   
I am seeing lots of anti health reasons on the internet and some saying it
affects privacy issues. Jess
   
From: Elizabeth Williams
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 11:18 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSsmart meter
   
I knew that these meters were coming to my town because they announced it 
in
the local city electric newsletter. I had been reading about these things
for a long time now. So what I did was call my lawyer and see what I could
legally do to keep them from installing it at my house. I put a note near
the meter that read, Do not install a smart meter on this home and I
padlocked the meter with my own lock. The lawyer told me that basically I
have a right to not accept this in my town. So my lawyer has sent the 
city a
letter stating that I dont want this smart meter.
   
Elizabeth Williams
belzi...@hotmail.com
   
   

From: jessi...@optonline.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 10:51:35 -0700
Subject: CSsmart meter
   
silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-l...@eskimo.com;
   
is this the list that has discussed the smart meter effects?  This 
morning a
utility man knocked on the door to inform me that he was installing a 
smart
meter on my house and the entire neighborhood. I  live in southern
California.
   
I just googled and saw it can cause heart irregularity, headaches and 
sleep
problems.  The phone # he gave me to call the company is not working. I 
read
that a homeowner refused and was charged $4k to keep an analog meter. Does
anyone know about this subject?
   
thanks, Jess
   
   
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Re: CSsmart meter

2011-10-17 Thread jess
Please forward. Thanks, Jess

From: paul catania 
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 3:56 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: Re: CSsmart meter

Hi Elizabeth,

I'm interested.

Thanks in advance,

Paul
  - Original Message - 
  From: Elizabeth Williams 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 1:28 PM
  Subject: RE: CSsmart meter

  There is a person on another list I am on that sells these doughnut shaped 
things that go around the meter that protect you from the radiation they emit, 
If anyone is interested I can provide a link to his online store, I am not 
affiliated with this person just sharing knowledge.

  Elizabeth Williams
  belzi...@hotmail.com

   

   Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 15:24:43 -0500
   Subject: Re: CSsmart meter
   From: bhangcha...@gmail.com
   To: silver-list@eskimo.com
   
   You should be able to do something like install a grounded metal
   shield between the meter and your house which would reduce the
   strength of any emission into the house. That should take care of it.
   
   Dan
   
   On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 1:28 PM, jess jessi...@optonline.net wrote:
The man from the utility co just told me that the pulses from the meter
travel 5 miles. he did not install it and I put a note on mine saying 
please
do not change my meter .  I got through to Edison So Cal and the rep said 
at
this time there is no opt out. They will let me know if the California
Public Utilities commission decides to allow an opt out list.  Right now I
am on their delay list.
   
I am seeing lots of anti health reasons on the internet and some saying it
affects privacy issues. Jess
   
From: Elizabeth Williams
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 11:18 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSsmart meter
   
I knew that these meters were coming to my town because they announced it 
in
the local city electric newsletter. I had been reading about these things
for a long time now. So what I did was call my lawyer and see what I could
legally do to keep them from installing it at my house. I put a note near
the meter that read, Do not install a smart meter on this home and I
padlocked the meter with my own lock. The lawyer told me that basically I
have a right to not accept this in my town. So my lawyer has sent the 
city a
letter stating that I dont want this smart meter.
   
Elizabeth Williams
belzi...@hotmail.com
   
   

From: jessi...@optonline.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 10:51:35 -0700
Subject: CSsmart meter
   
silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-l...@eskimo.com;
   
is this the list that has discussed the smart meter effects?  This 
morning a
utility man knocked on the door to inform me that he was installing a 
smart
meter on my house and the entire neighborhood. I  live in southern
California.
   
I just googled and saw it can cause heart irregularity, headaches and 
sleep
problems.  The phone # he gave me to call the company is not working. I 
read
that a homeowner refused and was charged $4k to keep an analog meter. Does
anyone know about this subject?
   
thanks, Jess
   
   
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Re: CSsmart meter

2011-10-17 Thread jaxi
Me too maybe just send to the list.  :-)

Jaxi

On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 6:25 PM, jess jessi...@optonline.net wrote:

   Please forward. Thanks, Jess

  *From:* paul catania squigg...@embarqmail.com
 *Sent:* Monday, October 17, 2011 3:56 PM
 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Subject:* Re: CSsmart meter

  Hi Elizabeth,

 I'm interested.

 Thanks in advance,

 Paul

 - Original Message -
 *From:* Elizabeth Williams belzi...@hotmail.com
 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Monday, October 17, 2011 1:28 PM
 *Subject:* RE: CSsmart meter

 There is a person on another list I am on that sells these doughnut shaped
 things that go around the meter that protect you from the radiation they
 emit, If anyone is interested I can provide a link to his online store, I am
 not affiliated with this person just sharing knowledge.

 Elizabeth Williams
 belzi...@hotmail.com


  Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 15:24:43 -0500
  Subject: Re: CSsmart meter
  From: bhangcha...@gmail.com
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 
  You should be able to do something like install a grounded metal
  shield between the meter and your house which would reduce the
  strength of any emission into the house. That should take care of it.
 
  Dan
 
  On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 1:28 PM, jess jessi...@optonline.net wrote:
   The man from the utility co just told me that the pulses from the meter
   travel 5 miles. he did not install it and I put a note on mine saying
 please
   do not change my meter .  I got through to Edison So Cal and the rep
 said at
   this time there is no opt out. They will let me know if the California
   Public Utilities commission decides to allow an opt out list.  Right
 now I
   am on their delay list.
  
   I am seeing lots of anti health reasons on the internet and some saying
 it
   affects privacy issues. Jess
  
   From: Elizabeth Williams
   Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 11:18 AM
   To: silver-list@eskimo.com
   Subject: RE: CSsmart meter
  
   I knew that these meters were coming to my town because they announced
 it in
   the local city electric newsletter. I had been reading about these
 things
   for a long time now. So what I did was call my lawyer and see what I
 could
   legally do to keep them from installing it at my house. I put a note
 near
   the meter that read, Do not install a smart meter on this home and I
   padlocked the meter with my own lock. The lawyer told me that basically
 I
   have a right to not accept this in my town. So my lawyer has sent the
 city a
   letter stating that I dont want this smart meter.
  
   Elizabeth Williams
   belzi...@hotmail.com
  
  
   
   From: jessi...@optonline.net
   To: silver-list@eskimo.com
   Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 10:51:35 -0700
   Subject: CSsmart meter
  
   silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@
 eskimo.com;
  
   is this the list that has discussed the smart meter effects?  This
 morning a
   utility man knocked on the door to inform me that he was installing a
 smart
   meter on my house and the entire neighborhood. I  live in southern
   California.
  
   I just googled and saw it can cause heart irregularity, headaches and
 sleep
   problems.  The phone # he gave me to call the company is not working. I
 read
   that a homeowner refused and was charged $4k to keep an analog meter.
 Does
   anyone know about this subject?
  
   thanks, Jess
 
 
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Re: CSsmart meter

2011-10-17 Thread Martsmail53
Me to...I just called my eclectic company...mine was install Jan 2008
 
 
In a message dated 10/17/2011 6:38:31 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
jaxi.sch...@gmail.com writes:

Me too  maybe just send to the list.  :-)  


Jaxi

On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 6:25 PM, jess _jessie70@optonline.net_ 
(mailto:jessi...@optonline.net)   wrote:


 
 
Please forward. Thanks, Jess
 
 

 
From: _paul catania_ (mailto:squigg...@embarqmail.com)  
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 3:56 PM
To: _silver-list@eskimo.com_ (mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com)  
 

 
Subject: Re: CSsmart meter




 

 

 
 
Hi Elizabeth,
 
I'm interested.
 
Thanks in advance,
 
Paul

- Original Message - 
From: _Elizabeth Williams_ (mailto:belzi...@hotmail.com)  
To: _silver-list@eskimo.com_ (mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com)  
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 1:28  PM
Subject: RE: CSsmart meter
 
There is a person on another list I am on that sells these  doughnut shaped 
things that go around the meter that protect you from the  radiation they 
emit, If anyone is interested I can provide a link to his  online store, I am 
not affiliated with this person just sharing  knowledge.

Elizabeth  Williams
_belzieth@hotmail.com_ (mailto:belzi...@hotmail.com) 


 Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 15:24:43 -0500
 Subject: Re:  CSsmart meter
 From: _bhangchai69@gmail.com_ (mailto:bhangcha...@gmail.com) 
 To: _silver-list@eskimo.com_ (mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com) 
 
 You should be  able to do something like install a grounded metal
 shield between  the meter and your house which would reduce the
 strength of any  emission into the house. That should take care of it.
 
  Dan
 
 On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 1:28 PM, jess _jessie70@optonline.net_ 
(mailto:jessi...@optonline.net)  wrote:
  The man  from the utility co just told me that the pulses from the meter
   travel 5 miles. he did not install it and I put a note on mine saying  
please
  do not change my meter .  I got through to Edison  So Cal and the rep 
said at
  this time there is no opt out.  They will let me know if the California
  Public Utilities  commission decides to allow an opt out list.  Right 
now I
   am on their delay list.
 
  I am seeing lots of  anti health reasons on the internet and some 
saying it
   affects privacy issues. Jess
 
  From: Elizabeth  Williams
  Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 11:18 AM
   To: _silver-list@eskimo.com_ (mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com) 
  Subject: RE:  CSsmart meter
 
  I knew that these meters were  coming to my town because they announced 
it in
  the local city  electric newsletter. I had been reading about these 
things
   for a long time now. So what I did was call my lawyer and see what I  
could
  legally do to keep them from installing it at my house.  I put a note 
near
  the meter that read, Do not install a smart  meter on this home and I
  padlocked the meter with my own  lock. The lawyer told me that 
basically I
  have a right to not  accept this in my town. So my lawyer has sent the 
city a
   letter stating that I dont want this smart meter.
 
   Elizabeth Williams
  _belzieth@hotmail.com_ (mailto:belzi...@hotmail.com) 
 
 
   
  From: _jessie70@optonline.net_ (mailto:jessi...@optonline.net) 
  To: _silver-list@eskimo.com_ (mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com) 
  Date: Mon, 17 Oct  2011 10:51:35 -0700
  Subject: CSsmart meter
  
   
silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@_eskimo.com_ 
(http://eskimo.com/) ;
 
  is this the list  that has discussed the smart meter effects?  This 
morning a
   utility man knocked on the door to inform me that he was installing a  
smart
  meter on my house and the entire neighborhood. I   live in southern
  California.
 
  I just  googled and saw it can cause heart irregularity, headaches and  
sleep
  problems.  The phone # he gave me to call the  company is not working. 
I read
  that a homeowner refused and  was charged $4k to keep an analog meter. 
Does
  anyone know  about this subject?
 
  thanks, Jess
  
 
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Re: CSsmart meter

2011-10-17 Thread Jane MacRoss
Please send details to the list ELizabeth!

Jane
  - Original Message - 
  Me too maybe just send to the list.  :-) 



There is a person on another list I am on that sells these doughnut 
shaped things that go around the meter that protect you from the radiation they 
emit, If anyone is interested I can provide a link to his online store, I am 
not affiliated with this person just sharing knowledge.



Re: CSsmart meter

2011-10-17 Thread Bob Banever

Dan,

I live in So. Cal and already have a smart meter on my house.  I'm 
livid as I didn't even know they installed it (probably two years ago). 
I've always had issues with my health living here.   Tiredness and malaise 
mostly.  As soon as I leave on vacation I feel better.  Happens every time. 
I called SC Edison and they said they cannot remove the meter until the DPU 
ok's the opt out.   In the meantime I covered the meter with a double layer 
of thick aluminum foil.  I haven't shielded the back of the unit though 
I can't get in back of it.  I'm wondering if I put foil up on the wall 
inside my house directly in back if that will shield me.


Bob
- Original Message - 
From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 1:24 PM
Subject: Re: CSsmart meter


You should be able to do something like install a grounded metal
shield between the meter and your house which would reduce the
strength of any emission into the house.  That should take care of it.

Dan

On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 1:28 PM, jess jessi...@optonline.net wrote:

The man from the utility co just told me that the pulses from the meter
travel 5 miles. he did not install it and I put a note on mine saying 
please
do not change my meter . I got through to Edison So Cal and the rep said 
at

this time there is no opt out. They will let me know if the California
Public Utilities commission decides to allow an opt out list. Right now I
am on their delay list.

I am seeing lots of anti health reasons on the internet and some saying it
affects privacy issues. Jess

From: Elizabeth Williams
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 11:18 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSsmart meter

I knew that these meters were coming to my town because they announced it 
in

the local city electric newsletter. I had been reading about these things
for a long time now. So what I did was call my lawyer and see what I could
legally do to keep them from installing it at my house. I put a note near
the meter that read, Do not install a smart meter on this home and I
padlocked the meter with my own lock. The lawyer told me that basically I
have a right to not accept this in my town. So my lawyer has sent the city 
a

letter stating that I dont want this smart meter.

Elizabeth Williams
belzi...@hotmail.com



From: jessi...@optonline.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 10:51:35 -0700
Subject: CSsmart meter

silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-l...@eskimo.com;

is this the list that has discussed the smart meter effects? This morning 
a
utility man knocked on the door to inform me that he was installing a 
smart

meter on my house and the entire neighborhood. I live in southern
California.

I just googled and saw it can cause heart irregularity, headaches and 
sleep
problems. The phone # he gave me to call the company is not working. I 
read

that a homeowner refused and was charged $4k to keep an analog meter. Does
anyone know about this subject?

thanks, Jess



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Re: CSsmart meter

2011-10-17 Thread Bob Banever
Lena,

  Thick aluminum foil should do the trick.  On YouTube there is a 
demonstration of someone using a turkey roasting pot made of thick aluminum 
foil... after covering the meter it blocked 100% of the radiation.

Bob
  - Original Message - 
  From: Guyot Léna 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 1:42 PM
  Subject: Re: CSsmart meter


  I'd imagine that lessemf.com would probably have something you could use to 
eliminate the hazard from the meter, if worse comes to worse. I've phoned them 
and they're pretty helpful and knowledgeable.


  Be well,
  Léna

  On Oct 17, 2011, at 4:24 PM, Dan Nave wrote:


  You should be able to do something like install a grounded metal
  shield between the meter and your house which would reduce the
  strength of any emission into the house.  That should take care of it.


  Dan


  On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 1:28 PM, jess jessi...@optonline.net wrote:
The man from the utility co just told me that the pulses from the meter
travel 5 miles. he did not install it and I put a note on mine saying please
do not change my meter .  I got through to Edison So Cal and the rep said at
this time there is no opt out. They will let me know if the California
Public Utilities commission decides to allow an opt out list.  Right now I
am on their delay list.


I am seeing lots of anti health reasons on the internet and some saying it
affects privacy issues. Jess


From: Elizabeth Williams
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 11:18 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSsmart meter


I knew that these meters were coming to my town because they announced it in
the local city electric newsletter. I had been reading about these things
for a long time now. So what I did was call my lawyer and see what I could
legally do to keep them from installing it at my house. I put a note near
the meter that read, Do not install a smart meter on this home and I
padlocked the meter with my own lock. The lawyer told me that basically I
have a right to not accept this in my town. So my lawyer has sent the city a
letter stating that I dont want this smart meter.


Elizabeth Williams
belzi...@hotmail.com





From: jessi...@optonline.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 10:51:35 -0700
Subject: CSsmart meter


silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-l...@eskimo.com;


is this the list that has discussed the smart meter effects?  This morning a
utility man knocked on the door to inform me that he was installing a smart
meter on my house and the entire neighborhood. I  live in southern
California.


I just googled and saw it can cause heart irregularity, headaches and sleep
problems.  The phone # he gave me to call the company is not working. I read
that a homeowner refused and was charged $4k to keep an analog meter. Does
anyone know about this subject?


thanks, Jess




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RE: CSsmart meter

2011-10-17 Thread Elizabeth Williams






Here is the two links, the first is a picture of the doughnut thing and the 
second is a link to his store.
Smart meter doughnut

http://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad266/bodhisattva123/orgonemeter.jpg

 

 

 online store from
this seller the above picture is so new that he doesn’t have them listed on his
site, but he has a custom choice, contact him if you want one. Here is his
online store

http://www.king-cart.com/cgi-bin/cart.cgi?store=orgonite
Elizabeth Williams

belzi...@hotmail.com


Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 18:38:20 -0500
Subject: Re: CSsmart meter
From: jaxi.sch...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com

Me too maybe just send to the list.  :-)
Jaxi

On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 6:25 PM, jess jessi...@optonline.net wrote:









Please forward. Thanks, Jess


 

From: paul catania 
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 3:56 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: Re: CSsmart meter
 

Hi Elizabeth,
 
I'm interested.
 
Thanks in advance,
 
Paul

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Elizabeth 
  Williams 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 1:28 
  PM
  Subject: RE: CSsmart meter
   
  There is a person on another list I am on that sells these 
  doughnut shaped things that go around the meter that protect you from the 
  radiation they emit, If anyone is interested I can provide a link to his 
  online store, I am not affiliated with this person just sharing 
  knowledge.

Elizabeth 
  Williams
belzi...@hotmail.com

 

   Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 15:24:43 -0500
 Subject: Re: 
  CSsmart meter
 From: bhangcha...@gmail.com
 To: 
  silver-list@eskimo.com
 
 You should be able to do something 
  like install a grounded metal
 shield between the meter and your house 
  which would reduce the
 strength of any emission into the house. That 
  should take care of it.
 
 Dan
 
 On Mon, Oct 17, 
  2011 at 1:28 PM, jess jessi...@optonline.net wrote:
  The 
  man from the utility co just told me that the pulses from the meter
 
   travel 5 miles. he did not install it and I put a note on mine saying 
  please
  do not change my meter .  I got through to Edison So 
  Cal and the rep said at
  this time there is no opt out. They will 
  let me know if the California
  Public Utilities commission decides 
  to allow an opt out list.  Right now I
  am on their delay 
  list.
 
  I am seeing lots of anti health reasons on the 
  internet and some saying it
  affects privacy issues. Jess
 
  
  From: Elizabeth Williams
  Sent: Monday, October 
  17, 2011 11:18 AM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  
  Subject: RE: CSsmart meter
 
  I knew that these 
  meters were coming to my town because they announced it in
  the 
  local city electric newsletter. I had been reading about these things
 
   for a long time now. So what I did was call my lawyer and see what I 
  could
  legally do to keep them from installing it at my house. I 
  put a note near
  the meter that read, Do not install a smart meter 
  on this home and I
  padlocked the meter with my own lock. The 
  lawyer told me that basically I
  have a right to not accept this 
  in my town. So my lawyer has sent the city a
  letter stating that 
  I dont want this smart meter.
 
  Elizabeth 
  Williams
  belzi...@hotmail.com
 
 
 
   
  From: 
  jessi...@optonline.net
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  
  Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 10:51:35 -0700
  Subject: CSsmart 
  meter
 
  
  silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-l...@eskimo.com;
 
  
  is this the list that has discussed the smart meter 
  effects?  This morning a
  utility man knocked on the door to 
  inform me that he was installing a smart
  meter on my house and 
  the entire neighborhood. I  live in southern
  
  California.
 
  I just googled and saw it can cause 
  heart irregularity, headaches and sleep
  problems.  The phone 
  # he gave me to call the company is not working. I read
  that a 
  homeowner refused and was charged $4k to keep an analog meter. Does
 
   anyone know about this subject?
 
  thanks, 
  Jess
 
 
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Re: CSsmart meter

2011-10-17 Thread phoenix23002 tds.net
I am going to ask a dumb question.  How would one know if they have
had a 'smart meter' installed? (I haven't heard a peep out of our coop
about a smart meter.)   We live out in the country and our meter is on
a pole about 100 - 150 ft (underground from the pole to the house)
away from the house.  One more question.. if we have had a smart meter
installed, would it being so far from the house make it less of a
problem?  Lola

On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 8:08 PM, Elizabeth Williams
belzi...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Here is the two links, the first is a picture of the doughnut thing and the
 second is a link to his store.

 Smart meter doughnut

 http://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad266/bodhisattva123/orgonemeter.jpg





  online store from this seller the above picture is so new that he doesn’t
 have them listed on his site, but he has a custom choice, contact him if you
 want one. Here is his online store

 http://www.king-cart.com/cgi-bin/cart.cgi?store=orgonite

 Elizabeth Williams
 belzi...@hotmail.com


 
 Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 18:38:20 -0500
 Subject: Re: CSsmart meter
 From: jaxi.sch...@gmail.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com

 Me too maybe just send to the list.  :-)
 Jaxi

 On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 6:25 PM, jess jessi...@optonline.net wrote:

 Please forward. Thanks, Jess

 From: paul catania
 Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 3:56 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSsmart meter

 Hi Elizabeth,

 I'm interested.

 Thanks in advance,

 Paul

 - Original Message -
 From: Elizabeth Williams
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 1:28 PM
 Subject: RE: CSsmart meter

 There is a person on another list I am on that sells these doughnut shaped
 things that go around the meter that protect you from the radiation they
 emit, If anyone is interested I can provide a link to his online store, I am
 not affiliated with this person just sharing knowledge.

 Elizabeth Williams
 belzi...@hotmail.com


 Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 15:24:43 -0500
 Subject: Re: CSsmart meter
 From: bhangcha...@gmail.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com

 You should be able to do something like install a grounded metal
 shield between the meter and your house which would reduce the
 strength of any emission into the house. That should take care of it.

 Dan

 On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 1:28 PM, jess jessi...@optonline.net wrote:
  The man from the utility co just told me that the pulses from the meter
  travel 5 miles. he did not install it and I put a note on mine saying
  please
  do not change my meter .  I got through to Edison So Cal and the rep
  said at
  this time there is no opt out. They will let me know if the California
  Public Utilities commission decides to allow an opt out list.  Right now
  I
  am on their delay list.
 
  I am seeing lots of anti health reasons on the internet and some saying
  it
  affects privacy issues. Jess
 
  From: Elizabeth Williams
  Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 11:18 AM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: RE: CSsmart meter
 
  I knew that these meters were coming to my town because they announced
  it in
  the local city electric newsletter. I had been reading about these
  things
  for a long time now. So what I did was call my lawyer and see what I
  could
  legally do to keep them from installing it at my house. I put a note
  near
  the meter that read, Do not install a smart meter on this home and I
  padlocked the meter with my own lock. The lawyer told me that basically
  I
  have a right to not accept this in my town. So my lawyer has sent the
  city a
  letter stating that I dont want this smart meter.
 
  Elizabeth Williams
  belzi...@hotmail.com
 
 
  
  From: jessi...@optonline.net
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 10:51:35 -0700
  Subject: CSsmart meter
 
 
  silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-l...@eskimo.com;
 
  is this the list that has discussed the smart meter effects?  This
  morning a
  utility man knocked on the door to inform me that he was installing a
  smart
  meter on my house and the entire neighborhood. I  live in southern
  California.
 
  I just googled and saw it can cause heart irregularity, headaches and
  sleep
  problems.  The phone # he gave me to call the company is not working. I
  read
  that a homeowner refused and was charged $4k to keep an analog meter.
  Does
  anyone know about this subject?
 
  thanks, Jess


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Re: CSsmart meter

2011-10-17 Thread cking001
Smartmeters have digital readouts.
Regular analog ones have little clock-type faces for reading.

Chuck
Those that forget the pasta are doomed to reheat it.


On 10/17/2011 10:50:29 PM, phoenix23002 tds.net (phoenix23...@tds.net)
wrote:
 I am going to ask a dumb question.  How would one know if they have
 had a 'smart meter' installed? (I
 haven't heard a peep out of our coop
 about a smart meter.)   We live out in the country and our meter is on
 a pole about 100 - 150 ft (underground from the pole to the house)
 away from the house.  One more question.. if we have had a smart meter
 installed, would it being so far from the house make it less of a
 problem?  Lola
 
 On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 8:08 PM, Elizabeth Williams
 belzi...@hotmail.com wrote:
 


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Re: CSsmart meter

2011-10-17 Thread jaxi
And it is not just electric meters ... our water meter also transmits ...
because we don't have a landline phone they put one in on our water meter
... not sure what the max distance is but i know they send someone in a car
to drive the hood each month to collect the info.  So ... you might have
more than one transmitter in the house.  I have orgonite towers all over our
house.

Jaxi

On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 10:09 PM, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:

 Smartmeters have digital readouts.
 Regular analog ones have little clock-type faces for reading.

Chuck
 Those that forget the pasta are doomed to reheat it.


 On 10/17/2011 10:50:29 PM, phoenix23002 tds.net (phoenix23...@tds.net)
 wrote:
  I am going to ask a dumb question.  How would one know if they have
  had a 'smart meter' installed? (I
  haven't heard a peep out of our coop
  about a smart meter.)   We live out in the country and our meter is on
  a pole about 100 - 150 ft (underground from the pole to the house)
  away from the house.  One more question.. if we have had a smart meter
  installed, would it being so far from the house make it less of a
  problem?  Lola
 
  On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 8:08 PM, Elizabeth Williams
  belzi...@hotmail.com wrote:
  


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Re: CSsmart meter

2011-10-17 Thread Guyot Léna

Ditto?! Léna
On Oct 17, 2011, at 7:38 PM, jaxi wrote:

Me too maybe just send to the list.  :-)

Jaxi

On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 6:25 PM, jess jessi...@optonline.net wrote:
Please forward. Thanks, Jess

From: paul catania
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 3:56 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSsmart meter

Hi Elizabeth,

I'm interested.

Thanks in advance,

Paul
- Original Message -
From: Elizabeth Williams
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 1:28 PM
Subject: RE: CSsmart meter

There is a person on another list I am on that sells these doughnut  
shaped things that go around the meter that protect you from the  
radiation they emit, If anyone is interested I can provide a link to  
his online store, I am not affiliated with this person just sharing  
knowledge.


Elizabeth Williams
belzi...@hotmail.com


 Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 15:24:43 -0500
 Subject: Re: CSsmart meter
 From: bhangcha...@gmail.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com

 You should be able to do something like install a grounded metal
 shield between the meter and your house which would reduce the
 strength of any emission into the house. That should take care of it.

 Dan

 On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 1:28 PM, jess jessi...@optonline.net wrote:
  The man from the utility co just told me that the pulses from  
the meter
  travel 5 miles. he did not install it and I put a note on mine  
saying please
  do not change my meter .  I got through to Edison So Cal and the  
rep said at
  this time there is no opt out. They will let me know if the  
California
  Public Utilities commission decides to allow an opt out list.   
Right now I

  am on their delay list.
 
  I am seeing lots of anti health reasons on the internet and some  
saying it

  affects privacy issues. Jess
 
  From: Elizabeth Williams
  Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 11:18 AM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: RE: CSsmart meter
 
  I knew that these meters were coming to my town because they  
announced it in
  the local city electric newsletter. I had been reading about  
these things
  for a long time now. So what I did was call my lawyer and see  
what I could
  legally do to keep them from installing it at my house. I put a  
note near
  the meter that read, Do not install a smart meter on this home  
and I
  padlocked the meter with my own lock. The lawyer told me that  
basically I
  have a right to not accept this in my town. So my lawyer has  
sent the city a

  letter stating that I dont want this smart meter.
 
  Elizabeth Williams
  belzi...@hotmail.com
 
 
  
  From: jessi...@optonline.net
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 10:51:35 -0700
  Subject: CSsmart meter
 
  silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver- 
l...@eskimo.com;

 
  is this the list that has discussed the smart meter effects?   
This morning a
  utility man knocked on the door to inform me that he was  
installing a smart

  meter on my house and the entire neighborhood. I  live in southern
  California.
 
  I just googled and saw it can cause heart irregularity,  
headaches and sleep
  problems.  The phone # he gave me to call the company is not  
working. I read
  that a homeowner refused and was charged $4k to keep an analog  
meter. Does

  anyone know about this subject?
 
  thanks, Jess


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Re: CSsmart meter

2011-10-17 Thread phoenix23002 tds.net
Whew.. ty, Chuck.  We still have the little wheel that goes around and
the clock type thingys.  I guess living in the boonies has it's
advantages.. well water and no smart meters. lol.. Lola

On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 11:09 PM,  cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:
 Smartmeters have digital readouts.
 Regular analog ones have little clock-type faces for reading.

                                        Chuck
 Those that forget the pasta are doomed to reheat it.


 On 10/17/2011 10:50:29 PM, phoenix23002 tds.net (phoenix23...@tds.net)
 wrote:
 I am going to ask a dumb question.  How would one know if they have
 had a 'smart meter' installed? (I
 haven't heard a peep out of our coop
 about a smart meter.)   We live out in the country and our meter is on
 a pole about 100 - 150 ft (underground from the pole to the house)
 away from the house.  One more question.. if we have had a smart meter
 installed, would it being so far from the house make it less of a
 problem?  Lola

 On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 8:08 PM, Elizabeth Williams
 belzi...@hotmail.com wrote:
 


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Re: CSsmart meter

2011-10-17 Thread phoenix23002 tds.net
Good point.  I will have to look around but.. we don't pay for water
and I can't think of anything else 'they' would have access to.  I
like the idea of the orgonites placed around the house.   Been
thinking about getting some.  Not to change the subject (you
mentioning orgonite reminded me) but has anyone else noticed the
lessoning of chem trails since the earthquakes last month?  Lola

On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 11:15 PM, jaxi jaxi.sch...@gmail.com wrote:
 And it is not just electric meters ... our water meter also transmits ...
 because we don't have a landline phone they put one in on our water meter
 ... not sure what the max distance is but i know they send someone in a car
 to drive the hood each month to collect the info.  So ... you might have
 more than one transmitter in the house.  I have orgonite towers all over our
 house.
 Jaxi

 On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 10:09 PM, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:

 Smartmeters have digital readouts.
 Regular analog ones have little clock-type faces for reading.

                                        Chuck
 Those that forget the pasta are doomed to reheat it.


 On 10/17/2011 10:50:29 PM, phoenix23002 tds.net (phoenix23...@tds.net)
 wrote:
  I am going to ask a dumb question.  How would one know if they have
  had a 'smart meter' installed? (I
  haven't heard a peep out of our coop
  about a smart meter.)   We live out in the country and our meter is on
  a pole about 100 - 150 ft (underground from the pole to the house)
  away from the house.  One more question.. if we have had a smart meter
  installed, would it being so far from the house make it less of a
  problem?  Lola
 
  On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 8:08 PM, Elizabeth Williams
  belzi...@hotmail.com wrote:
  


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Re: CSsmart meter

2011-10-17 Thread Grace1way
I'm interested also!  grace1...@aol.com
 
Jill
 
 
In a message dated 10/17/2011 8:21:27 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
drumr...@stny.rr.com writes:

Ditto?!  Léna

On Oct 17, 2011, at 7:38 PM, jaxi wrote:

Me too maybe just send to the list.  :-)  


Jaxi

On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 6:25 PM, jess _jessie70@optonline.net_ 
(mailto:jessi...@optonline.net)   wrote:


 
 
Please forward. Thanks, Jess
 
 

 
From: _paul catania_ (mailto:squigg...@embarqmail.com)  
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 3:56 PM
To: _silver-list@eskimo.com_ (mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com)  
 

 
Subject: Re: CSsmart meter




 

 

 
 
Hi Elizabeth,
 
I'm interested.
 
Thanks in advance,
 
Paul

- Original Message - 
From: _Elizabeth Williams_ (mailto:belzi...@hotmail.com)  
To: _silver-list@eskimo.com_ (mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com)  
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 1:28  PM
Subject: RE: CSsmart meter
 
There is a person on another list I am on that sells these  doughnut shaped 
things that go around the meter that protect you from the  radiation they 
emit, If anyone is interested I can provide a link to his  online store, I am 
not affiliated with this person just sharing  knowledge.

Elizabeth  Williams
_belzieth@hotmail.com_ (mailto:belzi...@hotmail.com) 


 Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 15:24:43 -0500
 Subject: Re:  CSsmart meter
 From: _bhangchai69@gmail.com_ (mailto:bhangcha...@gmail.com) 
 To: _silver-list@eskimo.com_ (mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com) 
 
 You should be  able to do something like install a grounded metal
 shield between  the meter and your house which would reduce the
 strength of any  emission into the house. That should take care of it.
 
  Dan
 
 On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 1:28 PM, jess _jessie70@optonline.net_ 
(mailto:jessi...@optonline.net)  wrote:
  The man  from the utility co just told me that the pulses from the meter
   travel 5 miles. he did not install it and I put a note on mine saying  
please
  do not change my meter .  I got through to Edison  So Cal and the rep 
said at
  this time there is no opt out.  They will let me know if the California
  Public Utilities  commission decides to allow an opt out list.  Right 
now I
   am on their delay list.
 
  I am seeing lots of  anti health reasons on the internet and some 
saying it
   affects privacy issues. Jess
 
  From: Elizabeth  Williams
  Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 11:18 AM
   To: _silver-list@eskimo.com_ (mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com) 
  Subject: RE:  CSsmart meter
 
  I knew that these meters were  coming to my town because they announced 
it in
  the local city  electric newsletter. I had been reading about these 
things
   for a long time now. So what I did was call my lawyer and see what I  
could
  legally do to keep them from installing it at my house.  I put a note 
near
  the meter that read, Do not install a smart  meter on this home and I
  padlocked the meter with my own  lock. The lawyer told me that 
basically I
  have a right to not  accept this in my town. So my lawyer has sent the 
city a
   letter stating that I dont want this smart meter.
 
   Elizabeth Williams
  _belzieth@hotmail.com_ (mailto:belzi...@hotmail.com) 
 
 
   
  From: _jessie70@optonline.net_ (mailto:jessi...@optonline.net) 
  To: _silver-list@eskimo.com_ (mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com) 
  Date: Mon, 17 Oct  2011 10:51:35 -0700
  Subject: CSsmart meter
  
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  is this the list  that has discussed the smart meter effects?  This 
morning a
   utility man knocked on the door to inform me that he was installing a  
smart
  meter on my house and the entire neighborhood. I   live in southern
  California.
 
  I just  googled and saw it can cause heart irregularity, headaches and  
sleep
  problems.  The phone # he gave me to call the  company is not working. 
I read
  that a homeowner refused and  was charged $4k to keep an analog meter. 
Does
  anyone know  about this subject?
 
  thanks, Jess
  
 
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Re: CSsmart meter

2011-10-17 Thread ted mozell
The reigning power moguls came by last week in northern California and
installed smart meters on the whole neighborhood i happened to be home and
told the installer no way on mine. I just received a love letter from them
yesterday stating that they can charge me whatever they want to have someone
come read my meter. This is the same outfit that blew up a whole
neighborhood  last year. I will be calling the puc tomorrow to see what
options are available Ted

On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 8:48 PM, grace1...@aol.com wrote:

 **
 I'm interested also!  grace1...@aol.com

 Jill

  In a message dated 10/17/2011 8:21:27 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
 drumr...@stny.rr.com writes:

 Ditto?! Léna
  On Oct 17, 2011, at 7:38 PM, jaxi wrote:

 Me too maybe just send to the list.  :-)

 Jaxi

 On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 6:25 PM, jess jessi...@optonline.net wrote:

   Please forward. Thanks, Jess

  *From:* paul catania squigg...@embarqmail.com
 *Sent:* Monday, October 17, 2011 3:56 PM
 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
   *Subject:* Re: CSsmart meter

   Hi Elizabeth,

 I'm interested.

 Thanks in advance,

 Paul

 - Original Message -
 *From:* Elizabeth Williams belzi...@hotmail.com
 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Monday, October 17, 2011 1:28 PM
 *Subject:* RE: CSsmart meter

 There is a person on another list I am on that sells these doughnut shaped
 things that go around the meter that protect you from the radiation they
 emit, If anyone is interested I can provide a link to his online store, I am
 not affiliated with this person just sharing knowledge.

 Elizabeth Williams
 belzi...@hotmail.com


  Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 15:24:43 -0500
  Subject: Re: CSsmart meter
  From: bhangcha...@gmail.com
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 
  You should be able to do something like install a grounded metal
  shield between the meter and your house which would reduce the
  strength of any emission into the house. That should take care of it.
 
  Dan
 
  On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 1:28 PM, jess jessi...@optonline.net wrote:
   The man from the utility co just told me that the pulses from the
 meter
   travel 5 miles. he did not install it and I put a note on mine saying
 please
   do not change my meter .  I got through to Edison So Cal and the rep
 said at
   this time there is no opt out. They will let me know if the California
   Public Utilities commission decides to allow an opt out list.  Right
 now I
   am on their delay list.
  
   I am seeing lots of anti health reasons on the internet and some
 saying it
   affects privacy issues. Jess
  
   From: Elizabeth Williams
   Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 11:18 AM
   To: silver-list@eskimo.com
   Subject: RE: CSsmart meter
  
   I knew that these meters were coming to my town because they announced
 it in
   the local city electric newsletter. I had been reading about these
 things
   for a long time now. So what I did was call my lawyer and see what I
 could
   legally do to keep them from installing it at my house. I put a note
 near
   the meter that read, Do not install a smart meter on this home and I
   padlocked the meter with my own lock. The lawyer told me that
 basically I
   have a right to not accept this in my town. So my lawyer has sent the
 city a
   letter stating that I dont want this smart meter.
  
   Elizabeth Williams
   belzi...@hotmail.com
  
  
   
   From: jessi...@optonline.net
   To: silver-list@eskimo.com
   Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 10:51:35 -0700
   Subject: CSsmart meter
  
   silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@
 eskimo.com;
  
   is this the list that has discussed the smart meter effects?  This
 morning a
   utility man knocked on the door to inform me that he was installing a
 smart
   meter on my house and the entire neighborhood. I  live in southern
   California.
  
   I just googled and saw it can cause heart irregularity, headaches and
 sleep
   problems.  The phone # he gave me to call the company is not working.
 I read
   that a homeowner refused and was charged $4k to keep an analog meter.
 Does
   anyone know about this subject?
  
   thanks, Jess
 
 
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Re: CSsmart meter

2011-10-17 Thread phoenix23002 tds.net
Good for you, Ted.  The 'powers that be' (no pun intended) (petty
bureaucrats whether government or otherwise) are going to be the death
of us if we don't start resisting the pushing, prodding and poking.
Somebody ought to take them to court and dig up all the negative
medical info.  When we call ourselves a free country, lightening bolts
should land on our heads 'cause it is becoming one big fat lie.  Lola

On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 12:29 AM, ted mozell tdba...@gmail.com wrote:
 The reigning power moguls came by last week in northern California and
 installed smart meters on the whole neighborhood i happened to be home and
 told the installer no way on mine. I just received a love letter from them
 yesterday stating that they can charge me whatever they want to have someone
 come read my meter. This is the same outfit that blew up a whole
 neighborhood  last year. I will be calling the puc tomorrow to see what
 options are available Ted

 On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 8:48 PM, grace1...@aol.com wrote:

 I'm interested also!  grace1...@aol.com

 Jill

 In a message dated 10/17/2011 8:21:27 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
 drumr...@stny.rr.com writes:

 Ditto?! Léna
 On Oct 17, 2011, at 7:38 PM, jaxi wrote:
 Me too maybe just send to the list.  :-)
 Jaxi

 On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 6:25 PM, jess jessi...@optonline.net wrote:

 Please forward. Thanks, Jess

 From: paul catania
 Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 3:56 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSsmart meter

 Hi Elizabeth,

 I'm interested.

 Thanks in advance,

 Paul

 - Original Message -
 From: Elizabeth Williams
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 1:28 PM
 Subject: RE: CSsmart meter

 There is a person on another list I am on that sells these doughnut
 shaped things that go around the meter that protect you from the radiation
 they emit, If anyone is interested I can provide a link to his online store,
 I am not affiliated with this person just sharing knowledge.

 Elizabeth Williams
 belzi...@hotmail.com


  Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 15:24:43 -0500
  Subject: Re: CSsmart meter
  From: bhangcha...@gmail.com
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 
  You should be able to do something like install a grounded metal
  shield between the meter and your house which would reduce the
  strength of any emission into the house. That should take care of it.
 
  Dan
 
  On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 1:28 PM, jess jessi...@optonline.net wrote:
   The man from the utility co just told me that the pulses from the
   meter
   travel 5 miles. he did not install it and I put a note on mine saying
   please
   do not change my meter .  I got through to Edison So Cal and the rep
   said at
   this time there is no opt out. They will let me know if the
   California
   Public Utilities commission decides to allow an opt out list.  Right
   now I
   am on their delay list.
  
   I am seeing lots of anti health reasons on the internet and some
   saying it
   affects privacy issues. Jess
  
   From: Elizabeth Williams
   Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 11:18 AM
   To: silver-list@eskimo.com
   Subject: RE: CSsmart meter
  
   I knew that these meters were coming to my town because they
   announced it in
   the local city electric newsletter. I had been reading about these
   things
   for a long time now. So what I did was call my lawyer and see what I
   could
   legally do to keep them from installing it at my house. I put a note
   near
   the meter that read, Do not install a smart meter on this home and I
   padlocked the meter with my own lock. The lawyer told me that
   basically I
   have a right to not accept this in my town. So my lawyer has sent the
   city a
   letter stating that I dont want this smart meter.
  
   Elizabeth Williams
   belzi...@hotmail.com
  
  
   
   From: jessi...@optonline.net
   To: silver-list@eskimo.com
   Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 10:51:35 -0700
   Subject: CSsmart meter
  
  
   silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-l...@eskimo.com;
  
   is this the list that has discussed the smart meter effects?  This
   morning a
   utility man knocked on the door to inform me that he was installing a
   smart
   meter on my house and the entire neighborhood. I  live in southern
   California.
  
   I just googled and saw it can cause heart irregularity, headaches and
   sleep
   problems.  The phone # he gave me to call the company is not working.
   I read
   that a homeowner refused and was charged $4k to keep an analog meter.
   Does
   anyone know about this subject?
  
   thanks, Jess
 
 
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