Re: CS>A glimmer of hope

[ted mozell]

Mike Thank You,  That is a wonderful Christmas message Tom thank You

On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 2:41 PM, M. G. Devour  wrote:

> I'm forwarding this for Tom, stripping HTML formatting that made it too
> big for the message size limit of the list. It is an intriguing
> message.
>
> Peace,
>
> Mike D.
>
> --- Forwarded message follows ---
> Date sent:  Sat, 17 Dec 2011 14:17:26 -0800
> From:   "Tom Poast" 
> To: 
> Subject:A glimmer of hope
>
>
>
> Over the past six months I have been working with a group of terminally
> ill people.  I was asked to provide some help when a drug, currently in
> Phase II clinical trials, provided not only a stop of the progression
> of this disease, but some people were actually regaining function that
> they had previously lost as a result of the disease.
>
>
> The drug is NP001.  It is made from a chemical that many may be
> familiar with, sodium chlorite.
>
>
> The problem with a drug trial is that they exclude people from the
> trial. Efforts were made to broaden the acceptance criteria, some
> progress was made, but still many were left out of the trial.  While
> the main reason was that they lived in an area that was outside the
> trial locations, another reason was the progression of the disease in
> their bodies.
>
>
> NP001 is administered via IV injection.  I explained that there is more
> than one way to get chlorite into the body and that while it is not as
> efficient as IV injection, drinking a solution of chlorite will result
> in some chlorite getting into the blood stream.
>
>
> A group of these people suffering from this disease decided to run an
> experiment on themselves.  Efforts have been made to get the medical
> community involved and these have not been totally successful, so far.
> They have provided support in the form of check ups and blood work
> designed to monitor for any adverse effects of participating in the
> experiment, but ethics and legal ramifications prevent them from
> getting too involved with this.
>
>
> A research neurologist was kind enough to explain to me that anecdotal
> evidence over a period of days to weeks is usually thought of as being
> the result of the placebo effect.  However, anecdotal evidence that
> continues to show positive results with the same people over a period
> of months to years is much harder to dismiss as placebo.  Testing done
> that supports the positive effect also helps.  I was also informed that
> when the results are spectacular the general bias is to question the
> original diagnosis.
>
>
> This experiment is coming up on six months now.  The positive benefits
> seem to be holding on, so I think there is now a glimmer of hope.
>
>
> Keep in mind that the group involved in this experiment is small.
> There are about 35 people that are openly vocal about it, and about
> that number again that are quietly participating.  Also, not everyone
> is showing improvement.
>
>
> Not knowing a lot about this disease I asked the group this question.
>
>
> Chlorite is a free radical oxidizer.  It does nothing to rebuild the
> body. What are you going to do to rebuild your bodies after the
> progression of this disease is slowed down or stopped?
>
>
> The answer I received was. Well, the question was not
> answered.
>
>
> I asked again.
>
>
> This time I was informed that nothing had ever been successful in
> stopping the progression of this disease, so this question had never
> come up.
>
>
> During this holiday time it is very exciting to see this glimmer of
> hope permeate the group, and to see some of their focus change to how
> to rebuild the body.
>
>
> The changes are not drastic, but incremental.  No one has jumped out of
> a wheel chair and started running down the street.  However, to someone
> who has lost function in their hands or arms or legs, suddenly having
> some function restored and seeing this restored function continue over
> time is remarkable.
>
>
> On May  2 1939 Lou Gehrig benched himself after playing 2130
> consecutive baseball games with the NY Yankees.  His health had
> deteriorated to the point where he was no longer able to play well.
> Addressing the crowd before a July 4 1939 game, Lou Gehrig told people
> that he was the "Luckiest Man on the Face of the Earth."  Two years
> later on June 2 1941 Lou Gehrig died of amyotrophic lateral sclerosis.
>
>
> ALS is the illness that the people involved with this experiment are
> suffering from.
>
>
> This glimmer of hope started with the drug trial that lead to the oral
> experiment.  The purpose of the experiment is to help people live long
> enough to be able to use the drug.  There appears to be a willingness
> of the FDA to speed things along, but the process will most likely take
> a few years and people who are diagnosed with ALS have an average
> expected life span of three years.  I don't think the FDA can speed
> things along that fast.
>
>
> In loose

CS>A glimmer of hope

[M. G. Devour]

I'm forwarding this for Tom, stripping HTML formatting that made it too 
big for the message size limit of the list. It is an intriguing 
message.

Peace,

Mike D.

--- Forwarded message follows ---
Date sent:  Sat, 17 Dec 2011 14:17:26 -0800
From:   "Tom Poast" 
To: 
Subject:A glimmer of hope



Over the past six months I have been working with a group of terminally 
ill people.  I was asked to provide some help when a drug, currently in 
Phase II clinical trials, provided not only a stop of the progression 
of this disease, but some people were actually regaining function that 
they had previously lost as a result of the disease.  


The drug is NP001.  It is made from a chemical that many may be 
familiar with, sodium chlorite.  


The problem with a drug trial is that they exclude people from the 
trial. Efforts were made to broaden the acceptance criteria, some 
progress was made, but still many were left out of the trial.  While 
the main reason was that they lived in an area that was outside the 
trial locations, another reason was the progression of the disease in 
their bodies.  


NP001 is administered via IV injection.  I explained that there is more 
than one way to get chlorite into the body and that while it is not as 
efficient as IV injection, drinking a solution of chlorite will result 
in some chlorite getting into the blood stream.  


A group of these people suffering from this disease decided to run an 
experiment on themselves.  Efforts have been made to get the medical 
community involved and these have not been totally successful, so far. 
They have provided support in the form of check ups and blood work 
designed to monitor for any adverse effects of participating in the 
experiment, but ethics and legal ramifications prevent them from 
getting too involved with this.  


A research neurologist was kind enough to explain to me that anecdotal 
evidence over a period of days to weeks is usually thought of as being 
the result of the placebo effect.  However, anecdotal evidence that 
continues to show positive results with the same people over a period 
of months to years is much harder to dismiss as placebo.  Testing done 
that supports the positive effect also helps.  I was also informed that 
when the results are spectacular the general bias is to question the 
original diagnosis.  


This experiment is coming up on six months now.  The positive benefits 
seem to be holding on, so I think there is now a glimmer of hope.  


Keep in mind that the group involved in this experiment is small.  
There are about 35 people that are openly vocal about it, and about 
that number again that are quietly participating.  Also, not everyone 
is showing improvement.  


Not knowing a lot about this disease I asked the group this question.   


Chlorite is a free radical oxidizer.  It does nothing to rebuild the 
body. What are you going to do to rebuild your bodies after the 
progression of this disease is slowed down or stopped?  


The answer I received was. Well, the question was not 
answered.  


I asked again.  


This time I was informed that nothing had ever been successful in 
stopping the progression of this disease, so this question had never 
come up.  


During this holiday time it is very exciting to see this glimmer of 
hope permeate the group, and to see some of their focus change to how 
to rebuild the body.   


The changes are not drastic, but incremental.  No one has jumped out of
a wheel chair and started running down the street.  However, to someone
who has lost function in their hands or arms or legs, suddenly having
some function restored and seeing this restored function continue over
time is remarkable.


On May  2 1939 Lou Gehrig benched himself after playing 2130 
consecutive baseball games with the NY Yankees.  His health had 
deteriorated to the point where he was no longer able to play well.  
Addressing the crowd before a July 4 1939 game, Lou Gehrig told people 
that he was the "Luckiest Man on the Face of the Earth."  Two years 
later on June 2 1941 Lou Gehrig died of amyotrophic lateral sclerosis.  
 

ALS is the illness that the people involved with this experiment are 
suffering from.  


This glimmer of hope started with the drug trial that lead to the oral 
experiment.  The purpose of the experiment is to help people live long 
enough to be able to use the drug.  There appears to be a willingness 
of the FDA to speed things along, but the process will most likely take 
a few years and people who are diagnosed with ALS have an average 
expected life span of three years.  I don't think the FDA can speed 
things along that fast.  


In loose side to side comparisons it appears that the drug is far more
effective.  The oral solution helps and seems to be able to halt or
radically slow down the progression of ALS, but the results from the
drug trial seem to be better.  


Six mon

RE: CS> Need some iodine info please...

[PTFerrance]

Thanks, Lola.
PT

-Original Message-
From: phoenix23002 tds.net [mailto:phoenix23...@tds.net] 
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 3:33 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS> Need some iodine info please...

No danger.  I think I heard or read the other day the iodine is used
in meth production so the Feds said no more than an oz at a time.

"Methamphetamine producers use iodine crystals to produce hydriodic
acid, the preferred reagent in the ephedrine/pseudoephedrine reduction
method of d-methamphetamine production. A reagent is a chemical used
in reactions to convert a precursor into a finished product. The
reagent does not become part of the finished product. The regulation
of hydriodic acid by the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) in 1993
rendered the chemical virtually unavailable in the United States."
   more      http://www.justice.gov/ndic/pubs1/1467/index.htm
  Lola

On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 8:01 AM, PTFerrance  wrote:
> Hi Tel,
>
> What is the perceived danger that only permits 1 oz Lugol’s to be shipped
at
> a time?
>
> Thanks.
>
> PT
>
>
>
> From: Tel Tofflemire [mailto:telt...@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 3:58 PM
>
>
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS> Need some iodine info please...
>
>
>
> Ok this will be short,
>
> Most Iodine you get today is aprox 2 % at best.
>
> I told several of you through the years that, I been a member on Silver
> List,
>
> That I have read that major outlets for Iodine are now putting out 2 %
> Iodine and calling it Lugol's Iodine,  (it's not) It's 2'% the rest
water.)
> What happens when it doesn't work?  People stop depending on it ! Then the
> Medical people prescribing 2 % can remind you they said  it may not work,
so
> you quit.  Sound true?  it is true.  I am a herbalist and seen this for 20
> years.
>
> Lugol's Iodine is 5% always, You can't change the name and expect to get
the
> same thing with a different % of real Iodine.
>
> If you want to try Iodine for real try Real Lugol's Iodine 5%.  I have it
in
> stock
>
> all the time. "The new law only lets me ship 1 One ounce bottle per
> shipment."
>
> When something is found out to work it soon will be regulated.
>
> Tel Tofflemire
>
>
>
> Tel Tofflemire, Herbalist
> Albuquerque, New Mexico 87114
>
> www.quailwoodherbal.com    (On line store.)
>
> 
>
> From: Harold 
> To: zzekel...@aol.com; silver-list@eskimo.com
> Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 6:04 PM
> Subject: Re: CS> Need some iodine info please...
>
>
> I have been using this mix; “Lugols ’2% for quite awhile now  as this was
> recommended to gradually build up a low/non existent level.I am 155 lbs 87
> years old.I take 3 to 4 drops daily,no problem so far.It was common
practice
> many years ago [how does 75 grab ya ?],to paint a spot about the size of a
> quarter on your tummy in the evening and if the spot had been absorbed by
> morning ,the
>
> n you needed it.Goiter was fairly common then until the Gov’t mandated
> Iodine  be added to salt.
>
>
>
> Harold
>
>
>
>
>
> zzekel...@aol.com
>
> Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 3:18 PM
>
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>
> Subject: Re: CS> Need some iodine info please...
>
>
>
> My daughter wants to start taking Lugol's iodine-I ordered some --
This
> is what I received--" J Crow's  Lugol's solution 2%...{ Ingredients = 94%
> distilled water---4% Potassium Iodide & 2% Iodine }... Got 2- 2 ounce
glass
> bottles...
>
>   {{I should have read more of the " iodine posts" but time wouldn't allow
> it right now }} Is this a good mix ??? If so how much should a person take
&
> how often ??? Thanks for any & all help anyone can give--- Thanks, Lois
>
> {{ I got it on amazon.com--- this is the site---{ It was on sale--2
bottles
> for $20}}--J.Crow's® Marketplace, J.Crow Company, Herbs,Spices,Essential
> Oils,Fragrances,
>
>
>
> 
>
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CS>iodine booklet

[Shirley Reed]

  A very excellent, small booklet that is informative and free can be 
downloaded if you do a google for "Iodine remedies:  Secrets  From the Sea".  
If you put it on your desktop all you have to do is click the icon and there it 
is.  Wait till you see the table of contents  pj   ps  The book by David 
Brownstein--Iodine:  Why You Need It, Why You Can't Live Without It      is of 
course more informative, but the little booklet is great.

Re: CS> Need some iodine info please...

[anthony . aquifer]

Funny but I can order raw iodine and potassium iodide by the pound and make my 
own. 
Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld

-Original Message-
From: "phoenix23002 tds.net" 
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 15:33:26 
To: 
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS> Need some iodine info please...

No danger.  I think I heard or read the other day the iodine is used
in meth production so the Feds said no more than an oz at a time.

"Methamphetamine producers use iodine crystals to produce hydriodic
acid, the preferred reagent in the ephedrine/pseudoephedrine reduction
method of d-methamphetamine production. A reagent is a chemical used
in reactions to convert a precursor into a finished product. The
reagent does not become part of the finished product. The regulation
of hydriodic acid by the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) in 1993
rendered the chemical virtually unavailable in the United States."
   more      http://www.justice.gov/ndic/pubs1/1467/index.htm
  Lola

On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 8:01 AM, PTFerrance  wrote:
> Hi Tel,
>
> What is the perceived danger that only permits 1 oz Lugol’s to be shipped at
> a time?
>
> Thanks.
>
> PT
>
>
>
> From: Tel Tofflemire [mailto:telt...@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 3:58 PM
>
>
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS> Need some iodine info please...
>
>
>
> Ok this will be short,
>
> Most Iodine you get today is aprox 2 % at best.
>
> I told several of you through the years that, I been a member on Silver
> List,
>
> That I have read that major outlets for Iodine are now putting out 2 %
> Iodine and calling it Lugol's Iodine,  (it's not) It's 2'% the rest water.)
> What happens when it doesn't work?  People stop depending on it ! Then the
> Medical people prescribing 2 % can remind you they said  it may not work, so
> you quit.  Sound true?  it is true.  I am a herbalist and seen this for 20
> years.
>
> Lugol's Iodine is 5% always, You can't change the name and expect to get the
> same thing with a different % of real Iodine.
>
> If you want to try Iodine for real try Real Lugol's Iodine 5%.  I have it in
> stock
>
> all the time. "The new law only lets me ship 1 One ounce bottle per
> shipment."
>
> When something is found out to work it soon will be regulated.
>
> Tel Tofflemire
>
>
>
> Tel Tofflemire, Herbalist
> Albuquerque, New Mexico 87114
>
> www.quailwoodherbal.com    (On line store.)
>
> 
>
> From: Harold 
> To: zzekel...@aol.com; silver-list@eskimo.com
> Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 6:04 PM
> Subject: Re: CS> Need some iodine info please...
>
>
> I have been using this mix; “Lugols ’2% for quite awhile now  as this was
> recommended to gradually build up a low/non existent level.I am 155 lbs 87
> years old.I take 3 to 4 drops daily,no problem so far.It was common practice
> many years ago [how does 75 grab ya ?],to paint a spot about the size of a
> quarter on your tummy in the evening and if the spot had been absorbed by
> morning ,the
>
> n you needed it.Goiter was fairly common then until the Gov’t mandated
> Iodine  be added to salt.
>
>
>
> Harold
>
>
>
>
>
> zzekel...@aol.com
>
> Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 3:18 PM
>
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>
> Subject: Re: CS> Need some iodine info please...
>
>
>
> My daughter wants to start taking Lugol's iodine-I ordered some -- This
> is what I received--" J Crow's  Lugol's solution 2%...{ Ingredients = 94%
> distilled water---4% Potassium Iodide & 2% Iodine }... Got 2- 2 ounce glass
> bottles...
>
>   {{I should have read more of the " iodine posts" but time wouldn't allow
> it right now }} Is this a good mix ??? If so how much should a person take &
> how often ??? Thanks for any & all help anyone can give--- Thanks, Lois
>
> {{ I got it on amazon.com--- this is the site---{ It was on sale--2 bottles
> for $20}}--J.Crow's® Marketplace, J.Crow Company, Herbs,Spices,Essential
> Oils,Fragrances,
>
>
>
> 
>
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Re: CS> Need some iodine info please...

[phoenix23002 tds.net]

No danger.  I think I heard or read the other day the iodine is used
in meth production so the Feds said no more than an oz at a time.

"Methamphetamine producers use iodine crystals to produce hydriodic
acid, the preferred reagent in the ephedrine/pseudoephedrine reduction
method of d-methamphetamine production. A reagent is a chemical used
in reactions to convert a precursor into a finished product. The
reagent does not become part of the finished product. The regulation
of hydriodic acid by the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) in 1993
rendered the chemical virtually unavailable in the United States."
   more      http://www.justice.gov/ndic/pubs1/1467/index.htm
  Lola

On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 8:01 AM, PTFerrance  wrote:
> Hi Tel,
>
> What is the perceived danger that only permits 1 oz Lugol’s to be shipped at
> a time?
>
> Thanks.
>
> PT
>
>
>
> From: Tel Tofflemire [mailto:telt...@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 3:58 PM
>
>
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS> Need some iodine info please...
>
>
>
> Ok this will be short,
>
> Most Iodine you get today is aprox 2 % at best.
>
> I told several of you through the years that, I been a member on Silver
> List,
>
> That I have read that major outlets for Iodine are now putting out 2 %
> Iodine and calling it Lugol's Iodine,  (it's not) It's 2'% the rest water.)
> What happens when it doesn't work?  People stop depending on it ! Then the
> Medical people prescribing 2 % can remind you they said  it may not work, so
> you quit.  Sound true?  it is true.  I am a herbalist and seen this for 20
> years.
>
> Lugol's Iodine is 5% always, You can't change the name and expect to get the
> same thing with a different % of real Iodine.
>
> If you want to try Iodine for real try Real Lugol's Iodine 5%.  I have it in
> stock
>
> all the time. "The new law only lets me ship 1 One ounce bottle per
> shipment."
>
> When something is found out to work it soon will be regulated.
>
> Tel Tofflemire
>
>
>
> Tel Tofflemire, Herbalist
> Albuquerque, New Mexico 87114
>
> www.quailwoodherbal.com    (On line store.)
>
> 
>
> From: Harold 
> To: zzekel...@aol.com; silver-list@eskimo.com
> Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 6:04 PM
> Subject: Re: CS> Need some iodine info please...
>
>
> I have been using this mix; “Lugols ’2% for quite awhile now  as this was
> recommended to gradually build up a low/non existent level.I am 155 lbs 87
> years old.I take 3 to 4 drops daily,no problem so far.It was common practice
> many years ago [how does 75 grab ya ?],to paint a spot about the size of a
> quarter on your tummy in the evening and if the spot had been absorbed by
> morning ,the
>
> n you needed it.Goiter was fairly common then until the Gov’t mandated
> Iodine  be added to salt.
>
>
>
> Harold
>
>
>
>
>
> zzekel...@aol.com
>
> Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 3:18 PM
>
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>
> Subject: Re: CS> Need some iodine info please...
>
>
>
> My daughter wants to start taking Lugol's iodine-I ordered some -- This
> is what I received--" J Crow's  Lugol's solution 2%...{ Ingredients = 94%
> distilled water---4% Potassium Iodide & 2% Iodine }... Got 2- 2 ounce glass
> bottles...
>
>   {{I should have read more of the " iodine posts" but time wouldn't allow
> it right now }} Is this a good mix ??? If so how much should a person take &
> how often ??? Thanks for any & all help anyone can give--- Thanks, Lois
>
> {{ I got it on amazon.com--- this is the site---{ It was on sale--2 bottles
> for $20}}--J.Crow's® Marketplace, J.Crow Company, Herbs,Spices,Essential
> Oils,Fragrances,
>
>
>
> 
>
> No virus found in this message.
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>
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Re: CS>Making 40 PPM is so simple.

[Tel Tofflemire]

On Dec 16, 2011, at 9:49 PM, Jim Holmes wrote:


Hello Ted,-- (Tel)

That looks like a great device, and at a good price.

But when reading about it, I came upon this:

" A micron is one billionth of a meter".  No.  A nanometer is one  
billionth.  A micron is one millionth.
I is most surely a simple error, but does not look good on their  
home page. Surely it has not been there since 1998?


How long does it take for the unit to make a gallon of 10 PPM?
What current/voltage/phase/pulse rate etc. does the unit use?
Do you know how he maker verifies the machine's particle size  
distribution?


I  look forward to meeting you and visiting your shop the next time  
I come out of the wilderness and get down to ABQ.



Jim
Hey Jim, your welcome in my store anytime,  I know his I have a  
great tester (Hanna Pro ) and I do send in a sample of my colloidal  
silver to  (2 ) Universities , U of Ohio,  and Arkansas Herbal  
College.  The wanted to know my silver maker's name, and said i was  
20 PPM and very clean from any break down of silver . I always test  
my distilled water before I make CS, if the water has more than 3.0  
or 2.0 undissolved PPM .  I do not use it for CS, I have found  
several from time to time that are only oo.2 or oo.3 ppm , wallmart  
was one place I got it in AZ, but Here the walmart Distilled is not  
as pure? I get it now at Smiths, (Crogger) it's ok and the best I  
can find, but around 1.3 ppm sometimes?
Yes, the Colloidal Master was invented in Idaho when I lived there,  
By Steve and Pearl, of Wishgranted.com, they are now in northern  
Minn, I looked at it in 1968, but never bought one untill about  
1978? When I started my company. QuailwoodHerbal.com
  I still use it at least once a week, Never had a bit of trouble, it  
is known for it's aoutomatic shutoff, Just set it what you want  
and go do something else.  I love it and I have tried others  
before this one. ( I won't mention)

Tel Tofflemire
On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 8:25 PM, Tel Tofflemire   
wrote:
I Have made all my Colloidal Silver 40 p.p.m. and more for over 12  
years now.

In fact I told everyone on the list how to do it several times.
You use a good unit, and you make a gallon at a time, it doesn't  
take me any longer to make a gallon than a quart with a Colloidal  
Master AC.
The best part is I de-vide the gallon of 40 or more p.p.m. into  
another gallon jar and add more distilled water until I get what PPM  
I want.  Lots of times I only want around 20 PPM. That is all you  
need for most of the time.
By the way, I know several on the list that use the colloidal  
Master, and are very happy with it & what it does. There made by (www.wishgranted.com 
)

Tel Tofflemire

From: Alchemysa 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 4:49 PM
Subject: CS>Making highly ionic CS. (Was the Silvercell process)

One other thing I forgot to metion in my previous post is that  
consuming large amounts of high ppm CS may may not be such a good  
idea anyway, unless you have a very good reason to do so.  Any claim  
that highly ionic CS 'cannot cause argyria' is purely speculative.


David


>
> As I said, its not that hard, but hardly worth the effort in my  
experience.

>
> David
>
>
>


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Fw: CS>Re: V2011 #377,re Iodine applied on skin

[Harold]

-Original Message- 
From: Harold

Subject: Re: CS>Re: V2011 #377,re Iodine applied on skin

Further to my last posting re Iodine painted on;I did test it by painting a
much larger patch on my stomach,approx 2" in diameter.This was left on
overnight and in the AM very little had been absorbed,so  I left it on not
letting it get wet and it was a fair number of days before it was gone.So.I
waited a long time before I repeated my usual procedure.
Another case I remember clearly was when I was about 11 or 12 years old
[the, 1930s]. An elderly lady friend of my mother was visiting and was
telling her about a new-born ,a few months old who was in much
distress,continually crying .The young mother was in much distress too.This
elderly lady painted the bottoms of the childs' feet with this same
Churchills' iodine and in a short while the baby was calm.This impressed me
very much.This woman was well versed in herbs and natures cures.
There was a lot of interest in Iodine in those years as I posted
earlier,Goiter was an epidemic in some areas and prevalent in others.
My grandfather was a musician and his hobby was making violins,and he used
Iodine to stain them;diamond dyes I think was what they were called.
Harold


Paul wrote:
. if I put some Iodine on a flat surface like a desk it stains it 
immediately, then I remove the source and it does something not unlike 
'evaporates', so I'm not sure this method of testing means 
anything...

I have read many times that skin painting "tests" for iodine
sufficiency/deficiency ARE meaningless. Not all medical doctors, or
medical researchers agree with the iodine proponents.
sol


Paul B

On 12/12/2011 04:44, silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com wrote:
...to paint a spot about the size of a quarter on your tummy in the 
evening and if the spot had been absorbed by morning ,then you needed it.



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Re: CS>Making 40 PPM is so simple.

[anthony . aquifer]

I'll ad that the authorities sure seem quite against people using for 
supplementation.  That's how I know if something is real good for you ;)   
Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld

-Original Message-
From: "PTFerrance" 
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 08:01:22 
To: 
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>Making 40 PPM is so simple.

Ode's SilverPuppy is my pick.  After it turns off at 15ppm you can over-ride
it make the CS as strong as you want. and you cannot beat the price I paid.

PT

 

From: Tel Tofflemire [mailto:telt...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 10:26 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Making 40 PPM is so simple.

 

I Have made all my Colloidal Silver 40 p.p.m. and more for over 12 years
now.

In fact I told everyone on the list how to do it several times.

You use a good unit, and you make a gallon at a time, it doesn't take me any
longer to make a gallon than a quart with a Colloidal Master AC. 

The best part is I de-vide the gallon of 40 or more p.p.m. into another
gallon jar and add more distilled water until I get what PPM I want.  Lots
of times I only want around 20 PPM. That is all you need for most of the
time.

By the way, I know several on the list that use the colloidal Master, and
are very happy with it & what it does. There made by (www.wishgranted.com)

Tel Tofflemire

 

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From: Alchemysa 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 4:49 PM
Subject: CS>Making highly ionic CS. (Was the Silvercell process)

One other thing I forgot to metion in my previous post is that consuming
large amounts of high ppm CS may may not be such a good idea anyway, unless
you have a very good reason to do so.  Any claim that highly ionic CS
'cannot cause argyria' is purely speculative.

David


> 
> As I said, its not that hard, but hardly worth the effort in my
experience.
> 
> David
> 
> 
> 


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Re: CS>Making 40 PPM is so simple.

[Guyot Léna]

I agree! My Silver Puppy is versatile, relatively quick, and the  
quality of its product proven in its great benefits to our lives.

Be well,
Léna
On Dec 17, 2011, at 8:01 AM, PTFerrance wrote:

Ode’s SilverPuppy is my pick.  After it turns off at 15ppm you can  
over-ride it make the CS as strong as you want… and you cannot beat  
the price I paid.

PT

From: Tel Tofflemire [mailto:telt...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 10:26 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Making 40 PPM is so simple.

I Have made all my Colloidal Silver 40 p.p.m. and more for over 12  
years now.

In fact I told everyone on the list how to do it several times.
You use a good unit, and you make a gallon at a time, it doesn't take  
me any longer to make a gallon than a quart with a Colloidal Master AC.
The best part is I de-vide the gallon of 40 or more p.p.m. into  
another gallon jar and add more distilled water until I get what PPM I  
want.  Lots of times I only want around 20 PPM. That is all you need  
for most of the time.
By the way, I know several on the list that use the colloidal Master,  
and are very happy with it & what it does. There made by (www.wishgranted.com 
)

Tel Tofflemire

From: Alchemysa 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 4:49 PM
Subject: CS>Making highly ionic CS. (Was the Silvercell process)

One other thing I forgot to metion in my previous post is that  
consuming large amounts of high ppm CS may may not be such a good idea  
anyway, unless you have a very good reason to do so.  Any claim that  
highly ionic CS 'cannot cause argyria' is purely speculative.


David


>
> As I said, its not that hard, but hardly worth the effort in my  
experience.

>
> David
>
>
>


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RE: CS>Making 40 PPM is so simple.

[PTFerrance]

Ode's SilverPuppy is my pick.  After it turns off at 15ppm you can over-ride
it make the CS as strong as you want. and you cannot beat the price I paid.

PT

 

From: Tel Tofflemire [mailto:telt...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 10:26 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Making 40 PPM is so simple.

 

I Have made all my Colloidal Silver 40 p.p.m. and more for over 12 years
now.

In fact I told everyone on the list how to do it several times.

You use a good unit, and you make a gallon at a time, it doesn't take me any
longer to make a gallon than a quart with a Colloidal Master AC. 

The best part is I de-vide the gallon of 40 or more p.p.m. into another
gallon jar and add more distilled water until I get what PPM I want.  Lots
of times I only want around 20 PPM. That is all you need for most of the
time.

By the way, I know several on the list that use the colloidal Master, and
are very happy with it & what it does. There made by (www.wishgranted.com)

Tel Tofflemire

 

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From: Alchemysa 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 4:49 PM
Subject: CS>Making highly ionic CS. (Was the Silvercell process)

One other thing I forgot to metion in my previous post is that consuming
large amounts of high ppm CS may may not be such a good idea anyway, unless
you have a very good reason to do so.  Any claim that highly ionic CS
'cannot cause argyria' is purely speculative.

David


> 
> As I said, its not that hard, but hardly worth the effort in my
experience.
> 
> David
> 
> 
> 


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RE: CS> Need some iodine info please...

[PTFerrance]

Hi Tel,

What is the perceived danger that only permits 1 oz Lugol’s to be shipped at a 
time?

Thanks.

PT

 

From: Tel Tofflemire [mailto:telt...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 3:58 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS> Need some iodine info please...

 

Ok this will be short,  

Most Iodine you get today is aprox 2 % at best.

I told several of you through the years that, I been a member on Silver List,

That I have read that major outlets for Iodine are now putting out 2 % Iodine 
and calling it Lugol's Iodine,  (it's not) It's 2'% the rest water.) What 
happens when it doesn't work?  People stop depending on it ! Then the Medical 
people prescribing 2 % can remind you they said  it may not work, so you quit.  
Sound true?  it is true.  I am a herbalist and seen this for 20 years.

Lugol's Iodine is 5% always, You can't change the name and expect to get the 
same thing with a different % of real Iodine.

If you want to try Iodine for real try Real Lugol's Iodine 5%.  I have it in 
stock

all the time. "The new law only lets me ship 1 One ounce bottle per shipment."

When something is found out to work it soon will be regulated.

Tel Tofflemire

 

Tel Tofflemire, Herbalist
Albuquerque, New Mexico 87114

www.quailwoodherbal.com(On line store.)

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From: Harold 
To: zzekel...@aol.com; silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 6:04 PM
Subject: Re: CS> Need some iodine info please...




I have been using this mix; “Lugols ’2% for quite awhile now  as this was 
recommended to gradually build up a low/non existent level.I am 155 lbs 87 
years old.I take 3 to 4 drops daily,no problem so far.It was common practice 
many years ago [how does 75 grab ya ?],to paint a spot about the size of a 
quarter on your tummy in the evening and if the spot had been absorbed by 
morning ,the 

n you needed it.Goiter was fairly common then until the Gov’t mandated Iodine  
be added to salt.

 

Harold

 

 

zzekel...@aol.com 

Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 3:18 PM

To: silver-list@eskimo.com 

Subject: Re: CS> Need some iodine info please...

 

My daughter wants to start taking Lugol's iodine-I ordered some -- This is 
what I received--" J Crow's  Lugol's solution 2%...{ Ingredients = 94% 
distilled water---4% Potassium Iodide & 2% Iodine }... Got 2- 2 ounce glass 
bottles...

  {{I should have read more of the " iodine posts" but time wouldn't allow it 
right now }} Is this a good mix ??? If so how much should a person take & how 
often ??? Thanks for any & all help anyone can give--- Thanks, Lois  

{{ I got it on amazon.com--- this is the site---{ It was on sale--2 bottles for 
$20}}--J.Crow's® Marketplace,   J.Crow 
Company, Herbs,Spices,Essential Oils,Fragrances, 

 

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