Re: CSArthritis - Fluoride
It's better to start with rain water with any water filtration, as it's more alive and it contains far less pollutants than tap water. rainwaterharvest...@yahoogroups.com has a lot of good info for setting up a rain water collection system.
Re: CSLDN
For some people it almost seems to be inherited. PT From: Judy Knowlton judydownma...@roadrunner.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 5:34 PM Subject: RE: CSLDN I haven't kept up with this whole discussion, but the ongoing question I always ask myself is, what is the CAUSE. Yes, I'll feel better for awhile if the inflammation is down, and that's important. but what is TRIGGERING the reaction is more important to me. Judy Down Maine ___ JOY Is Lovely Liquid Light is a quote from my biography Patched, A Spiritual Memoir Written by me, Judy K. Happily available on Amazon. -Original Message- From: PT Ferrance [mailto:ptf2...@bellsouth.net] Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 5:24 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSLDN OK, I am finally considering low dose naltrexone for the systemic inflammation. I know a number of my fellow and gal list members are on this regimen so can we open a discussion? Is it something I will need to do for the rest of my life or is it withdrawn after a period of time? Where is the best place to obtain it at a reasonable price? Are there any side effects? Thanks for any help you can give. PT
Re: CS
No pollen means not honey. * 76 percent of samples bought at groceries had all the pollen removed, These were stores like TOP Food, Safeway, Giant Eagle, QFC, Kroger, Metro Market, Harris Teeter, AP, Stop Shop and King Soopers. * 100 percent of the honey sampled from drugstores like Walgreens, Rite-Aid and CVS Pharmacy had no pollen. * 77 percent of the honey sampled from big box stores like Costco, Sam's Club, Walmart, Target and H-E-B had the pollen filtered out. * 100 percent of the honey packaged in the small individual service portions from Smucker, McDonald's and KFC had the pollen removed. * Bryant found that every one of the samples Food Safety News bought at farmers markets, co-ops and natural stores like PCC and Trader Joe's had the full, anticipated, amount of pollen. The following is a list of brands that were fake or adulterated: * American Choice Clover Honey * Archer Farms Orange Blossom Honey * Archer Farms Organic Classic Honey * Busy Bee Organic Honey * Busy Bee, Pure Clover Honey * Full Circle Pure Honey * Giant Eagle Clover Honey * GE Clover Honey * Great Value, Clover Honey * Haggen Honey, Natural Pure * HT Traders Tupelo Honey * Kroger Pure Clover Honey * Market Pantry Pure Honey * Mel-O 100% Pure Honey * Natural Sue Bee Clover Honey * Naturally Preferred Fireweed Honey * Rite Aid Honey * Safeway Clover Honey * Silver Bow Pure Honey * Stop Shop Clover Honey * Sue Bee Clover Honey * Thrifty Bee Honey * Valutime Honey * Walgreen MEL-O Honey * Western Family Clover Honey * Wegman Clover Honey * Winnie the Pooh, Pure Clover Marshall On 8/14/2013 10:12 PM, finplan65 wrote: Any brand names of the few percent that are authentic? *From:* Marshall mdud...@king-cart.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Wednesday, August 14, 2013 5:30 PM *Subject:* Re: CS Be aware that over 90% of the honey sold in the US is fake. If you want real honey, get it locally produced by a beekeeper. All the major brands are fake. Marshall On 8/14/2013 3:58 PM, Monique Sauve wrote: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1241303/Vinegar-honey-cured-crippling-arthritis-says-delighted-organist.html On 8/14/2013 12:50 PM, Anne Ney wrote: Ratios, please! Sent from my iPad On Aug 14, 2013, at 10:19 AM, Bob Smith rresm...@q.com mailto:rresm...@q.com wrote: Dr. Jarvis' apple cider vinigar in a cup of water taken before every meal has worked for many. I knew a lady confined to a wheel chair that made a significant recovery. Bob No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com/ Version: 10.0.1432 / Virus Database: 3204/6076 - Release Date: 08/14/13 No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1432 / Virus Database: 3204/6077 - Release Date: 08/14/13
Re: CSarthritus
I've been searching for the cool Paleo website but I forgot to save it in my folder, unfortunately, and my friend forgot too. Being a visual person, I have to see photos of meals. Found one cool blog with photos of paleo meals ---breakfast included. Enjoy: http://cavemanfood.blogspot.com/search/label/breakfast If I find the other one, I will post it up later. Quote: The only disability in life is a bad attitude.http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/s/scotthamil104173.html Scott Hamiltonhttp://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/s/scott_hamilton.html On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 7:39 PM, Gail Naranjo wanda85...@yahoo.com wrote: Can you or anybody on the strict paleo diet give me an example of what you eat for breakfast, lunch, dinner, snacks? Do you eat meat for breakfast instead of the usual breakfast food. Just trying to get an idea. I've tried the Atkins and South beach programs but find after the first day I feel worse, much worse, very wasted. As soon as I eat some carbs I feel much better. I have CFS and don't need to feel worse. Also, on the supplement you mentioned is that just for somebody that has Hashimoto or is it more for the pain from the fibromyalgia? Does it help with fatigue, and in your opinion would it be useful for somebody with CFS as I also have pain often? Gail *From:* ASL aslra...@gmail.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Tuesday, August 13, 2013 5:27 PM *Subject:* Re: CSarthritus Like most people, due to having autoimmune disease (Hashimoto's) --- I learned I had to go on a strictly paleo diet with NO dairy and night shades. Every time I slip and ingest dairy, gluten or night shades I'm in excruciating pain in my spine and joints. So most people who contributed tips - I agree with whole heartedly. It's not an easy diet/life style... but if it makes the pain go away--- it's worth it. I've noticed though that little bit of RAW goat milk is fine guess it has to do with live enzymes benefiting our intestines. Sadly, In Colorado, it's illegal to sell raw goat milk in stores - they have this expensive goat Share program expect to pay tons of money on top of paying for a few gallons per month. No can do... way above my financial budget. Dr Geronimo also prescribed me a supplement to keep the inflammation down called Glutathione Recycler SM *http://shop.fecsd.com/Glutathion-Recycler-SM-30-Caps-Only-K81-K81.htm* * * *I cannot live without this supplement -- with fibromyalgia, Hashimoto's disease and osteo-arthrititis... I am now able to live 97% pain free! I noticed I skipped 1 1/2 month with out it and I was like crippled, literally and I'm only 43 years old. As soon I got my supplement refill, within 2 days, I was back to active self. * *Forgive the length of this note. *
Re: CS
Besides the removal of pollen, I have read that in the USA bees are often fed sugar water instead of being allowed to free range flowers. The point was that honey made from sugar water wasn't really honey. PT From: Marshall mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 11:13 AM Subject: Re: CS No pollen means not honey. * 76 percent of samples bought at groceries had all the pollen removed, These were stores like TOP Food, Safeway, Giant Eagle, QFC, Kroger, Metro Market, Harris Teeter, AP, Stop Shop and King Soopers. * 100 percent of the honey sampled from drugstores like Walgreens, Rite-Aid and CVS Pharmacy had no pollen. * 77 percent of the honey sampled from big box stores like Costco, Sam’s Club, Walmart, Target and H-E-B had the pollen filtered out. * 100 percent of the honey packaged in the small individual service portions from Smucker, McDonald’s and KFC had the pollen removed. * Bryant found that every one of the samples Food Safety News bought at farmers markets, co-ops and “natural” stores like PCC and Trader Joe’s had the full, anticipated, amount of pollen. The following is a list of brands that were fake or adulterated: * American Choice Clover Honey * Archer Farms Orange Blossom Honey * Archer Farms Organic Classic Honey * Busy Bee Organic Honey * Busy Bee, Pure Clover Honey * Full Circle Pure Honey * Giant Eagle Clover Honey * GE Clover Honey * Great Value, Clover Honey * Haggen Honey, Natural Pure * HT Traders Tupelo Honey * Kroger Pure Clover Honey * Market Pantry Pure Honey * Mel-O 100% Pure Honey * Natural Sue Bee Clover Honey * Naturally Preferred Fireweed Honey * Rite Aid Honey * Safeway Clover Honey * Silver Bow Pure Honey * Stop Shop Clover Honey * Sue Bee Clover Honey * Thrifty Bee Honey * Valutime Honey * Walgreen MEL-O Honey * Western Family Clover Honey * Wegman Clover Honey * Winnie the Pooh, Pure Clover Marshall On 8/14/2013 10:12 PM, finplan65 wrote: Any brand names of the few percent that are authentic? From: Marshall mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 5:30 PM Subject: Re: CS Be aware that over 90% of the honey sold in the US is fake. If you want real honey, get it locally produced by a beekeeper. All the major brands are fake. Marshall On 8/14/2013 3:58 PM, Monique Sauve wrote: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1241303/Vinegar-honey-cured-crippling-arthritis-says-delighted-organist.html On 8/14/2013 12:50 PM, Anne Ney wrote: Ratios, please! Sent from my iPad On Aug 14, 2013, at 10:19 AM, Bob Smith rresm...@q.com wrote: Dr. Jarvis' apple cider vinigar in a cup of water taken before every meal has worked for many. I knew a lady confined to a wheel chair that made a significant recovery. Bob No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1432 / Virus Database: 3204/6076 - Release Date: 08/14/13 No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1432 / Virus Database: 3204/6077 - Release Date: 08/14/13
Re: CS
I actually have a hive, and get my own honey and honey for the rest of my family from it. No question it is pure for us. Even if you get it from a beekeeper, it will likely have miticides in it, so ask them if their hives are treatment free. Probably 90% of the beekeepers use poisons in their hive for mites. I am in the other 10%, no chemicals, pesticides, miticides, antibiotics, and no feeding of sugar or corn syrup. That is the only way to get 100% pure unadulterated honey. Marshall On 8/14/2013 7:13 PM, Neville Munn wrote: And there's just been a huge stink raised here in Australia recently because fake honey is being exported labelled as honey from Australia??? As you say, the only honey to get is honey from the beekeeper (if that's possible), all other honey has been blended and tampered with and in all probability has additives which slows down the action of setting hard and going sugary whilst in storage. N. Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 17:30:44 -0400 From: mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS Be aware that over 90% of the honey sold in the US is fake. If you want real honey, get it locally produced by a beekeeper. All the major brands are fake. Marshall On 8/14/2013 3:58 PM, Monique Sauve wrote: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1241303/Vinegar-honey-cured-crippling-arthritis-says-delighted-organist.html On 8/14/2013 12:50 PM, Anne Ney wrote: Ratios, please! Sent from my iPad On Aug 14, 2013, at 10:19 AM, Bob Smith rresm...@q.com mailto:rresm...@q.com wrote: Dr. Jarvis' apple cider vinigar in a cup of water taken before every meal has worked for many. I knew a lady confined to a wheel chair that made a significant recovery. Bob No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1432 / Virus Database: 3204/6076 - Release Date: 08/14/13 No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1432 / Virus Database: 3204/6077 - Release Date: 08/14/13
Re: CSarthritus
You might want to try www.paleomom.com. PT From: ASL aslra...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 11:34 AM Subject: Re: CSarthritus I've been searching for the cool Paleo website but I forgot to save it in my folder, unfortunately, and my friend forgot too. Being a visual person, I have to see photos of meals. Found one cool blog with photos of paleo meals ---breakfast included. Enjoy: http://cavemanfood.blogspot.com/search/label/breakfast If I find the other one, I will post it up later. Quote: The only disability in life is a bad attitude. Scott Hamilton On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 7:39 PM, Gail Naranjo wanda85...@yahoo.com wrote: Can you or anybody on the strict paleo diet give me an example of what you eat for breakfast, lunch, dinner, snacks? Do you eat meat for breakfast instead of the usual breakfast food. Just trying to get an idea. I've tried the Atkins and South beach programs but find after the first day I feel worse, much worse, very wasted. As soon as I eat some carbs I feel much better. I have CFS and don't need to feel worse. Also, on the supplement you mentioned is that just for somebody that has Hashimoto or is it more for the pain from the fibromyalgia? Does it help with fatigue, and in your opinion would it be useful for somebody with CFS as I also have pain often? Gail From: ASL aslra...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 5:27 PM Subject: Re: CSarthritus Like most people, due to having autoimmune disease (Hashimoto's) --- I learned I had to go on a strictly paleo diet with NO dairy and night shades. Every time I slip and ingest dairy, gluten or night shades I'm in excruciating pain in my spine and joints. So most people who contributed tips - I agree with whole heartedly. It's not an easy diet/life style... but if it makes the pain go away--- it's worth it. I've noticed though that little bit of RAW goat milk is fine guess it has to do with live enzymes benefiting our intestines. Sadly, In Colorado, it's illegal to sell raw goat milk in stores - they have this expensive goat Share program expect to pay tons of money on top of paying for a few gallons per month. No can do... way above my financial budget. Dr Geronimo also prescribed me a supplement to keep the inflammation down called Glutathione Recycler SM http://shop.fecsd.com/Glutathion-Recycler-SM-30-Caps-Only-K81-K81.htm I cannot live without this supplement -- with fibromyalgia, Hashimoto's disease and osteo-arthrititis... I am now able to live 97% pain free! I noticed I skipped 1 1/2 month with out it and I was like crippled, literally and I'm only 43 years old. As soon I got my supplement refill, within 2 days, I was back to active self. Forgive the length of this note.
Re: CSarthritus
Gail: I forgot to answer your questions: The Glutathione Recycler SM is to treat both Hashi/chronic fatigue/FMS. I learned, after so many years of being in severe chronic pain --- that when I became pain-free, I had so much more energy. Dr Geronimo warned me to still take it easy because my adrenal system is still healing. But I didn't listen to him and was acting like I could conquer the world and naturally, relapsed into chronic fatigue. When I was pain-free, I realized the connection of severe pain contributed severe chronic fatigue... makes sense now since the body has been working so hard to defend and repair itself. Thanks to Dr G, I was able to go back to work part time and be a productive citizen again. Some folks believe that fibromyalgia is a disguised mask from Hypo/hyper-thyroidism. I did noticed when I was on natural compounded porcine thyroid medicine, my pain was greatly reduced 7 years ago. Then about 3 years ago, the pain returned and I had to change my diet but it seems once the inflammation passed the point --- even a strict diet didn't help with chronic fatigue which I found out to be very low cortisol (adrenal exhaustion). So have an ND or DC check your cortisol (saliva test) --- it will prove throughout the day when it's too low or too high and they can help you get it back to normal. That should then help reduce chronic fatigue too. Quote: The only disability in life is a bad attitude.http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/s/scotthamil104173.html Scott Hamiltonhttp://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/s/scott_hamilton.html On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 7:39 PM, Gail Naranjo wanda85...@yahoo.com wrote: Can you or anybody on the strict paleo diet give me an example of what you eat for breakfast, lunch, dinner, snacks? Do you eat meat for breakfast instead of the usual breakfast food. Just trying to get an idea. I've tried the Atkins and South beach programs but find after the first day I feel worse, much worse, very wasted. As soon as I eat some carbs I feel much better. I have CFS and don't need to feel worse. Also, on the supplement you mentioned is that just for somebody that has Hashimoto or is it more for the pain from the fibromyalgia? Does it help with fatigue, and in your opinion would it be useful for somebody with CFS as I also have pain often? Gail *From:* ASL aslra...@gmail.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Tuesday, August 13, 2013 5:27 PM *Subject:* Re: CSarthritus Like most people, due to having autoimmune disease (Hashimoto's) --- I learned I had to go on a strictly paleo diet with NO dairy and night shades. Every time I slip and ingest dairy, gluten or night shades I'm in excruciating pain in my spine and joints. So most people who contributed tips - I agree with whole heartedly. It's not an easy diet/life style... but if it makes the pain go away--- it's worth it. I've noticed though that little bit of RAW goat milk is fine guess it has to do with live enzymes benefiting our intestines. Sadly, In Colorado, it's illegal to sell raw goat milk in stores - they have this expensive goat Share program expect to pay tons of money on top of paying for a few gallons per month. No can do... way above my financial budget. Dr Geronimo also prescribed me a supplement to keep the inflammation down called Glutathione Recycler SM *http://shop.fecsd.com/Glutathion-Recycler-SM-30-Caps-Only-K81-K81.htm* * * *I cannot live without this supplement -- with fibromyalgia, Hashimoto's disease and osteo-arthrititis... I am now able to live 97% pain free! I noticed I skipped 1 1/2 month with out it and I was like crippled, literally and I'm only 43 years old. As soon I got my supplement refill, within 2 days, I was back to active self. * *Forgive the length of this note. *
Re: CSarthritus
PS Ask Dr Rommel Geronimo if he can help you treat fibromyalgia--- and if the supplements he prescribes would help your case: http://fecsd.com/About_Dr.html If you choose to see him, he will make you take a lot of tests to rule anything out- hopefully your insurance will cover it. These tests are what allopathic doctors do not use/not believe in. When I showed that I had parasites which was another contributor to chronic fatigue/pain they didn't believe me. It took me 3 mos to rid the parasites and only then Dr G allowed me to take supplements for the inflammation. It would have been a waste of my money/effort to take them if the parasite were just to cancel it out. So glad he discovered this.
Re: CS
Thanks, Marshall, for the exhaustive list of fake honeys. I was shocked and dismayed to see even organic honey is fake. Sigh! Time to hunt for a local raw honey seller around my neighborhood. Curious, I've been told that some beekeepers feed bees sugar water is that safe/good idea to purchase from? I prefer bees who eat nectar from flowers. Quote: The only disability in life is a bad attitude.http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/s/scotthamil104173.html Scott Hamiltonhttp://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/s/scott_hamilton.html On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 9:13 AM, Marshall mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: ** No pollen means not honey. - 76 percent of samples bought at groceries had all the pollen removed, These were stores like TOP Food, Safeway, Giant Eagle, QFC, Kroger, Metro Market, Harris Teeter, AP, Stop Shop and King Soopers. - 100 percent of the honey sampled from drugstores like Walgreens, Rite-Aid and CVS Pharmacy had no pollen. - 77 percent of the honey sampled from big box stores like Costco, Sam’s Club, Walmart, Target and H-E-B had the pollen filtered out. - 100 percent of the honey packaged in the small individual service portions from Smucker, McDonald’s and KFC had the pollen removed. - Bryant found that every one of the samples Food Safety News bought at farmers markets, co-ops and “natural” stores like PCC and Trader Joe’s had the full, anticipated, amount of pollen. The following is a list of brands that were fake or adulterated: - American Choice Clover Honey - Archer Farms Orange Blossom Honey - Archer Farms Organic Classic Honey - Busy Bee Organic Honey - Busy Bee, Pure Clover Honey - Full Circle Pure Honey - Giant Eagle Clover Honey - GE Clover Honey - Great Value, Clover Honey - Haggen Honey, Natural Pure - HT Traders Tupelo Honey - Kroger Pure Clover Honey - Market Pantry Pure Honey - Mel-O 100% Pure Honey - Natural Sue Bee Clover Honey - Naturally Preferred Fireweed Honey - Rite Aid Honey - Safeway Clover Honey - Silver Bow Pure Honey - Stop Shop Clover Honey - Sue Bee Clover Honey - Thrifty Bee Honey - Valutime Honey - Walgreen MEL-O Honey - Western Family Clover Honey - Wegman Clover Honey - Winnie the Pooh, Pure Clover Marshall On 8/14/2013 10:12 PM, finplan65 wrote: Any brand names of the few percent that are authentic? -- *From:* Marshall mdud...@king-cart.com mdud...@king-cart.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Wednesday, August 14, 2013 5:30 PM *Subject:* Re: CS Be aware that over 90% of the honey sold in the US is fake. If you want real honey, get it locally produced by a beekeeper. All the major brands are fake. Marshall On 8/14/2013 3:58 PM, Monique Sauve wrote: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1241303/Vinegar-honey-cured-crippling-arthritis-says-delighted-organist.html On 8/14/2013 12:50 PM, Anne Ney wrote: Ratios, please! Sent from my iPad On Aug 14, 2013, at 10:19 AM, Bob Smith rresm...@q.com wrote: Dr. Jarvis' apple cider vinigar in a cup of water taken before every meal has worked for many. I knew a lady confined to a wheel chair that made a significant recovery. Bob -- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1432 / Virus Database: 3204/6076 - Release Date: 08/14/13 -- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1432 / Virus Database: 3204/6077 - Release Date: 08/14/13
CSRE: silver-digest Digest V2013 #232
Olukashola, How can rainwater nowadays be clean, with depleted uranium in the atmosphere hovering perpetually and comes down on us when it rains? Our atmosphere is also full of Fukushima radiation which also comes down in the water. We have to be realistic, our water, land and air is slowly poisoning us. Do our present available filters remove DU and radiation? Please anyone know if filters work on above pollutants? Melly From: silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com [mailto:silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com] Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 10:37 AM To: silver-dig...@eskimo.com Subject: silver-digest Digest V2013 #232
CSRE: silver-digest Digest V2013 #232
Olushola, Am so sorry I misspelled your name. Melly From: silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com [mailto:silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com] Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 10:37 AM To: silver-dig...@eskimo.com Subject: silver-digest Digest V2013 #232
Re: CS
I just now read your newest post, Marshall, and see that you've answered my question already re: beekeepers feeding sugar/corn syrup. I hope to find someone who is an authentic beekeeper. So sad of how everything is being tainted these days. Quote: The only disability in life is a bad attitude.http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/s/scotthamil104173.html Scott Hamiltonhttp://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/s/scott_hamilton.html On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 9:03 AM, Marshall mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: ** I actually have a hive, and get my own honey and honey for the rest of my family from it. No question it is pure for us. Even if you get it from a beekeeper, it will likely have miticides in it, so ask them if their hives are treatment free. Probably 90% of the beekeepers use poisons in their hive for mites. I am in the other 10%, no chemicals, pesticides, miticides, antibiotics, and no feeding of sugar or corn syrup. That is the only way to get 100% pure unadulterated honey. Marshall On 8/14/2013 7:13 PM, Neville Munn wrote: And there's just been a huge stink raised here in Australia recently because fake honey is being exported labelled as honey from Australia??? As you say, the only honey to get is honey from the beekeeper (if that's possible), all other honey has been blended and tampered with and in all probability has additives which slows down the action of setting hard and going sugary whilst in storage. N. -- Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 17:30:44 -0400 From: mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS Be aware that over 90% of the honey sold in the US is fake. If you want real honey, get it locally produced by a beekeeper. All the major brands are fake. Marshall On 8/14/2013 3:58 PM, Monique Sauve wrote: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1241303/Vinegar-honey-cured-crippling-arthritis-says-delighted-organist.html On 8/14/2013 12:50 PM, Anne Ney wrote: Ratios, please! Sent from my iPad On Aug 14, 2013, at 10:19 AM, Bob Smith rresm...@q.com wrote: Dr. Jarvis' apple cider vinigar in a cup of water taken before every meal has worked for many. I knew a lady confined to a wheel chair that made a significant recovery. Bob -- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1432 / Virus Database: 3204/6076 - Release Date: 08/14/13 -- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1432 / Virus Database: 3204/6077 - Release Date: 08/14/13
Re: CSarthritus
Wish I lived closer...am in Wis. Sent from my iPad On Aug 15, 2013, at 10:49 AM, ASL aslra...@gmail.com wrote: PS Ask Dr Rommel Geronimo if he can help you treat fibromyalgia--- and if the supplements he prescribes would help your case: http://fecsd.com/About_Dr.html If you choose to see him, he will make you take a lot of tests to rule anything out- hopefully your insurance will cover it. These tests are what allopathic doctors do not use/not believe in. When I showed that I had parasites which was another contributor to chronic fatigue/pain they didn't believe me. It took me 3 mos to rid the parasites and only then Dr G allowed me to take supplements for the inflammation. It would have been a waste of my money/effort to take them if the parasite were just to cancel it out. So glad he discovered this.
Re: CSarthritus
I live in Colorado and Dr Geronimo gives phone, Skype and email consultations. Other doctors locally who follows Dr K's protocol are 3 times more expensive than Dr G's treatments. You may want to take advantage of phone appointments. Best wishes. Quote: The only disability in life is a bad attitude.http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/s/scotthamil104173.html Scott Hamiltonhttp://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/s/scott_hamilton.html On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Anne Ney aney3...@gmail.com wrote: Wish I lived closer...am in Wis. Sent from my iPad On Aug 15, 2013, at 10:49 AM, ASL aslra...@gmail.com wrote: PS Ask Dr Rommel Geronimo if he can help you treat fibromyalgia--- and if the supplements he prescribes would help your case: http://fecsd.com/About_Dr.html If you choose to see him, he will make you take a lot of tests to rule anything out- hopefully your insurance will cover it. These tests are what allopathic doctors do not use/not believe in. When I showed that I had parasites which was another contributor to chronic fatigue/pain they didn't believe me. It took me 3 mos to rid the parasites and only then Dr G allowed me to take supplements for the inflammation. It would have been a waste of my money/effort to take them if the parasite were just to cancel it out. So glad he discovered this.
Re: CSLDN
http://books.google.ca/books?id=3PoSAQAAMAAJsource=gbs_similarbooks http://archive.org/stream/newappro00meye/newappro00meye_djvu.txt Joe On 14/08/2013 5:34 PM, Judy Knowlton wrote: I haven't kept up with this whole discussion, but the ongoing question I always ask myself is, what is the CAUSE. Yes, I'll feel better for awhile if the inflammation is down, and that's important. but what is TRIGGERING the reaction is more important to me. Judy Down Maine ___ JOY Is Lovely Liquid Light is a quote from my biography Patched, A Spiritual Memoir Written by me, Judy K. Happily available on Amazon. -Original Message- *From:* PT Ferrance [mailto:ptf2...@bellsouth.net] *Sent:* Wednesday, August 14, 2013 5:24 PM *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Subject:* CSLDN OK, I am finally considering low dose naltrexone for the systemic inflammation. I know a number of my fellow and gal list members are on this regimen so can we open a discussion? Is it something I will need to do for the rest of my life or is it withdrawn after a period of time? Where is the best place to obtain it at a reasonable price? Are there any side effects? Thanks for any help you can give. PT
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You could try grounding. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11PC8AFrh5w Joe On 14/08/2013 7:28 PM, Anne Ney wrote: Mine is compounded by a compounding pharmacy... 3.75 mg Sent from my iPad On Aug 14, 2013, at 4:35 PM, Jaxi Schulz jaxi.sch...@gmail.com mailto:jaxi.sch...@gmail.com wrote: How long you do it depends on why you are doing it. I personally will probably take it for the rest of my life. Saved me, truly did. I get mine from All Day Chemist in India - mix the 50 mg tab with 50 ml water and draw off my daily dose. Been on it ... oh 4 years now ... wouldn't be without it. My ulcerative colitis has really not been an issue since I started it. My allergies backed off to the point of only a week or two during peak season where I used to be on allergy meds year round. I was able to go off all other meds too. My migraines also became much less frequent. I started it for the UC but appreciate the other positive side effects. Jaxi On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 4:23 PM, PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net mailto:ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote: OK, I am finally considering low dose naltrexone for the systemic inflammation. I know a number of my fellow and gal list members are on this regimen so can we open a discussion? Is it something I will need to do for the rest of my life or is it withdrawn after a period of time? Where is the best place to obtain it at a reasonable price? Are there any side effects? Thanks for any help you can give. PT
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OK, I looked them over but seem to be missing the connection to LDN. Also the google one wouldn't let me open the monograph. PT From: Joe Huard joe.hu...@primus.ca To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 2:23 PM Subject: Re: CSLDN http://books.google.ca/books?id=3PoSAQAAMAAJsource=gbs_similarbooks http://archive.org/stream/newappro00meye/newappro00meye_djvu.txt Joe On 14/08/2013 5:34 PM, Judy Knowlton wrote: I haven't kept up with this whole discussion, but the ongoing question I always ask myself is, what is the CAUSE. Yes, I'll feel better for awhile if the inflammation is down, and that's important. but what is TRIGGERING the reaction is more important to me. Judy Down Maine ___ JOY Is Lovely Liquid Light is a quote from my biography Patched, A Spiritual Memoir Written by me, Judy K. Happily available on Amazon. -Original Message- From: PT Ferrance [mailto:ptf2...@bellsouth.net] Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 5:24 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSLDN OK, I am finally considering low dose naltrexone for the systemic inflammation. I know a number of my fellow and gal list members are on this regimen so can we open a discussion? Is it something I will need to do for the rest of my life or is it withdrawn after a period of time? Where is the best place to obtain it at a reasonable price? Are there any side effects? Thanks for any help you can give. PT
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On 8/14/2013 10:12 PM, finplan65 wrote: Any brand names of the few percent that are authentic? What matters is that it is honey local to you because then it's made from pollen in your area. A national brand will never meet that criteria. You also want it raw, not processed. Not only is it helpful for arthritis but allergies and many other conditions, especially when mixed with organic apple cider vinegar. Together it's called honeger . I get my honey from local feed stores. Cyndi
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I was linking it to the CAUSE of arthritis; namely, phlebitis. It's the source of Carmi's book. Joe On 15/08/2013 3:19 PM, PT Ferrance wrote: OK, I looked them over but seem to be missing the connection to LDN. Also the google one wouldn't let me open the monograph. PT *From:* Joe Huard joe.hu...@primus.ca *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Thursday, August 15, 2013 2:23 PM *Subject:* Re: CSLDN http://books.google.ca/books?id=3PoSAQAAMAAJsource=gbs_similarbooks http://archive.org/stream/newappro00meye/newappro00meye_djvu.txt Joe On 14/08/2013 5:34 PM, Judy Knowlton wrote: I haven't kept up with this whole discussion, but the ongoing question I always ask myself is, what is the CAUSE. Yes, I'll feel better for awhile if the inflammation is down, and that's important. but what is TRIGGERING the reaction is more important to me. Judy Down Maine
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Just read an article ago the bees thrive better in NYC where there are hardly any pesticides on the plants. Waldorf has bees on their rooftops and have consultants to help them with those bees. The bees fly to Central Park to eat. Very interesting article. Some honeys are red, orange, depending on what they ate. Melly From: ASL [mailto:aslra...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 10:57 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS I just now read your newest post, Marshall, and see that you've answered my question already re: beekeepers feeding sugar/corn syrup. I hope to find someone who is an authentic beekeeper. So sad of how everything is being tainted these days. Quote: http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/s/scotthamil104173.html The only disability in life is a bad attitude. http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/s/scott_hamilton.html Scott Hamilton On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 9:03 AM, Marshall mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: I actually have a hive, and get my own honey and honey for the rest of my family from it. No question it is pure for us. Even if you get it from a beekeeper, it will likely have miticides in it, so ask them if their hives are treatment free. Probably 90% of the beekeepers use poisons in their hive for mites. I am in the other 10%, no chemicals, pesticides, miticides, antibiotics, and no feeding of sugar or corn syrup. That is the only way to get 100% pure unadulterated honey. Marshall On 8/14/2013 7:13 PM, Neville Munn wrote: And there's just been a huge stink raised here in Australia recently because fake honey is being exported labelled as honey from Australia??? As you say, the only honey to get is honey from the beekeeper (if that's possible), all other honey has been blended and tampered with and in all probability has additives which slows down the action of setting hard and going sugary whilst in storage. N. _ Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 17:30:44 -0400 From: mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS Be aware that over 90% of the honey sold in the US is fake. If you want real honey, get it locally produced by a beekeeper. All the major brands are fake. Marshall On 8/14/2013 3:58 PM, Monique Sauve wrote: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1241303/Vinegar-honey-cured-crippl ing-arthritis-says-delighted-organist.html On 8/14/2013 12:50 PM, Anne Ney wrote: Ratios, please! Sent from my iPad On Aug 14, 2013, at 10:19 AM, Bob Smith rresm...@q.com wrote: Dr. Jarvis' apple cider vinigar in a cup of water taken before every meal has worked for many. I knew a lady confined to a wheel chair that made a significant recovery. Bob _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1432 / Virus Database: 3204/6076 - Release Date: 08/14/13 _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1432 / Virus Database: 3204/6077 - Release Date: 08/14/13
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I hope that no-one is dissuaded from using K2 because of your experience. No doubt you experienced increased tooth sensitivity, but for what reason? I would hesitate to propose a direct cause and effect relationship between K2 and tooth sensitivity as a general principle. I know you have some extreme health challenges, so there may be something going on because of this. Just saying. Dan On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 3:52 PM, sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote: Here's a funny thing, K2 was recommended to me for dental and periodontal problems, including sensitive teeth due to exposed tooth roots. I tried it but rather than helping anything it made my tooth sensitivity worse. I only wish it had worked, because if it had, perhaps I could have avoided the gum graft surgery I had last week. sol Dan Nave wrote: Of course, EIS with 10% to 20% DMSO swished in the mouth for 15 minutes every couple of weeks does a lot for periodontal problems, but what I have found that seems to work for me is the supplement vitamin K2, particularly the MK-7 variety of K2. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-request@**eskimo.com silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com ?subject=**unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/**silver-list@eskimo.com/** maillist.htmlhttp://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-list@**eskimo.comsilver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Thanks. PT From: Joe Huard joe.hu...@primus.ca To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 4:43 PM Subject: Re: CSLDN I was linking it to the CAUSE of arthritis; namely, phlebitis. It's the source of Carmi's book. Joe On 15/08/2013 3:19 PM, PT Ferrance wrote: OK, I looked them over but seem to be missing the connection to LDN. Also the google one wouldn't let me open the monograph. PT From: Joe Huard joe.hu...@primus.ca To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 2:23 PM Subject: Re: CSLDN http://books.google.ca/books?id=3PoSAQAAMAAJsource=gbs_similarbooks http://archive.org/stream/newappro00meye/newappro00meye_djvu.txt Joe On 14/08/2013 5:34 PM, Judy Knowlton wrote: I haven't kept up with this whole discussion, but the ongoing question I always ask myself is, what is the CAUSE. Yes, I'll feel better for awhile if the inflammation is down, and that's important. but what is TRIGGERING the reaction is more important to me. Judy Down Maine
