Re: CS>Re: Eniva's "angstrom sized ionic minerals"
First, I'd like to point out I am not a distributor, and have no interest in being one, unless of course their Cesium (on the to-be-banned list) and Vanadium products prove to be superior for use in cancer which I am investigating. Second, not to defend MLM's, but they are not the devil, although I get irritated by some of them. MLM or not, I don't know too many business people that wouldn't try to promote their product. The argument that because it may be a MLM, therefore it must be just hype means nothing to me. The product is either good, bad or worthless no matter how it is marketed. I first heard about Eniva about 2 years ago, at which time they did have a technical brochure. I am trying to locate a copy of it. However, you will not get anything now from Eniva.no information at all. Colloidal silver is for all intents and purposes, illegal as it now stands as most people know. You seem to be quite knowledgeable. Buy a bottle of Eniva CS and analyze it. Do not take lightly what I have stated concerning the FDA. Their goal is to stop all dissemination of information that violates their "Final Ruling". In other words, you do not have the Right to free speech. Forums such as this one are being targeted. Watch and witness companies that now sell CS and CS generators disappear at the drop of a hat. All it takes is a phone call, a letter or a visit. I know people that have had run-ins with the FDA; it is not a pleasant experience. They can ruin your life post haste. I'm wondering if anyone has visited http://www.cat007.com ? There is information about building a DC CS maker. It is only for 8 ounces however. I want to build one for at least a quart at a time. Are there plans somewhere for larger quantities? From: "Kevin Nolan" Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: Subject: CS>Re: Eniva's "angstrom sized ionic minerals" Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 14:08:19 +1100 DG wrote: "No, I've used their silver for enough things to know it's not hype. I have had long discussions with a few knowledgeable Eniva folks, under the table so to speak. They do not use salt. I have considered sending a sample to be analyzed. They have a Cesium product for cancer patients, however will not discuss it at all. The FDA is attempting to prevent the public from obtaining Cesium. I am interested in their Cesium because the chloride has been removed, leaving only highly bio-available Cesium. Normally, cesium chloride can cause nausea, however Eniva's does not. Their products are definitely unique in my view. Maybe CS can be replicated to their specification, however their other products I've yet to see anything rival. I believe they steam distill the product to get the high ppm, but don't quote me on that." Judging from your remark "they do not use salt.", perhaps you didn't understand what I was saying by "seems to me a simpler definition would suffice: Angstrom size ionic mineral = salt (general term, not just NaCl). Example: silver hydroxide - which is about 80-90 % of the output of a typical home-made low tech CS generator!" I was trying to make it clear that it was the general term "salt", meaning any combination of (generally) metallic cation, such as Ag+, Ca++, etc, and any anion, such as OH-, Cl-, SO4--. When dissolved in water, such salts dissociate, either completely or partially, to produce angstrom-sized ions! Eniva are at pains to distinguish their product as being definitely NOT a colloid, but is both angstrom sized and ionic. Well if that's not a good definition of a dissolved salt, what is it? Are they claiming a new state of matter? I requested more info as per their web site offer, only to receive a strong come-on to join as a MLM affiliate. DG, if you are convinced their product is truly superior, I'd love to here more from you as to your experience using it. At the moment, things are not quite adding up. regards, Kevin Nolan ken...@optusnet.com.au _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Eniva's "angstrom sized ionic minerals"
No, I've used their silver for enough things to know it's not hype. I have had long discussions with a few knowledgeable Eniva folks, under the table so to speak. They do not use salt. I have considered sending a sample to be analyzed. They have a Cesium product for cancer patients, however will not discuss it at all. The FDA is attempting to prevent the public from obtaining Cesium. I am interested in their Cesium because the chloride has been removed, leaving only highly bio-available Cesium. Normally, cesium chloride can cause nausea, however Eniva's does not. Their products are definitely unique in my view. Maybe CS can be replicated to their specification, however their other products I've yet to see anything rival. I believe they steam distill the product to get the high ppm, but don't quote me on that. From: "Kevin Nolan" Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: Subject: CS>Eniva's "angstrom sized ionic minerals" Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 11:40:16 +1100 D G wrote: "Eniva makes a 275 ppm CS. It is crystal clear and my experience with it has been very good. The FDA is attempting to run them out of business at present time, probably because their products are so unique. In fact, the FDA and Canadian "authorities" are making a sweep across North America. Many clinics and supplement companies are being harrassed and intimidated. Beware! Also, is there some type of digest available online that has a very thorough description on how to build a CS generator of the angstrom size variety using no catalysts?" Having perused their site http://www.mlmanonymous.com/angstrom.htm , it seems to me a simpler definition would suffice: Angstrom size ionic mineral = salt (general term, not just NaCl). Example: silver hydroxide - which is about 80-90 % of the output of a typical home-made low tech CS generator! I may be wrong, but the suspicion is Eniva are simply using clever marketing hype. Kevin Nolan ken...@optusnet.com.au _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>For the Techies
Eniva makes a 275 ppm CS. It is crystal clear and my experience with it has been very good. The FDA is attempting to run them out of business at present time, probably because their products are so unique. In fact, the FDA and Canadian "authorities" are making a sweep across North America. Many clinics and supplement companies are being harrassed and intimidated. Beware! Also, is there some type of digest available online that has a very thorough description on how to build a CS generator of the angstrom size variety using no catalysts? I am interested in building one that can make at least 48 oz or so at a time. One I saw uses a 6 volt DC power adaptor and an air bubbler. I read the technical aspects of it, but it was only for 8 oz at a time, and left a few questions unanswered for me. Thanks. From: bober...@postoffice.swbell.net Reply-To: bober...@swbell.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>For the Techies Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2001 18:19:19 -0600 Hi Arnold, I read the paper on the UL that you listed. It has to do with growing large sized silver prisims of 100 nm. This is away beyond what we make as electro-colloid. I have a T.E.M.made by the Univ. of Texas of crystal clear CS that has particles from 18 nmto 86 nm. To think that one can judge particle size by color is a gross error. "Ole Bob" Arnold Beland wrote: > Here is independent verification for the technique of judging particle > size by color. http://www.eetimes.com/story/OEG20011129S0005 Arnold -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp
Re: CS>Dr. Carey Reams
What did the tests consist of? My friend is a retired chemist/bio-physicist and is knowledgeable of many of the researchers and scientists from the past. From: Terry Chamberlin Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>Dr. Carey Reams Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 15:07:18 -0500 (EST) Terry Dickinson said: "Whenever I see "banned book" it tends to raise my ire and want to know more. Any reason given for this? Did there happen to be a cure that made the establishment feel threatened?" From my Metabolic Bioanalysis brochure: HISTORY: "Metabolic Bioanalysis was first developed in the early 1930's by the late biophysicist/biochemist Dr. Carey Reams. Early in his career, Reams had earned a reputation for his work in the field of agriculture and animal husbandry. Dr. Reams would test and analyze a farmer's soil, and when the farmer would follow Reams' recommendations for treating and restoring the soil to optimum productivity, the farmer would frequently experience up to a five-fold increase in crop production. Dairy cows fed with grain that was grown on this improved soil were known to produce 3-5 times more milk than ordinary dairy cows, and the milk was noticeably sweeter and creamier. "In the late 1930's, Dr. Reams had a neighbor who had a little boy, 3-1/2, whom the doctors said was having epileptic seizures. The doctors had told the boy's father that his son would not live beyond the age of 5, that one day he would go into a seizure he would not recover from. At this time the boy was having 8 seizures per day, and medicine had no effect. Dr. Reams took the principles of biochemistry that he had developed in the field of animal husbandry and applied them to human biochemistry. Dr. Reams (not a medical doctor, but a biochemist/biophysicist) took samples from the boy's body of everything it was possible to get a sample of and discovered that all the test results were duplicated in urine and saliva. (Reams believed he was the first person to ever do hair analysis). He made suggestions to the father of diet changes and supplements. After one month, the boy was down to one or two seizures per day, and after three months, all seizures had stopped. By 1968, Reams was traveling 150,000 miles per year as an agricultural consultant. After he retired from being an agricultural consultant, a 20-year old girl with Hodgkin's disease came to see him, telling him that the doctors had given her 30 days to live. He tested her, made recommendations, and she recovered. After that, people began to seek him out in large numbers. "As Reams' reputation spread and the demand for his attention grew, he decided to teach his analysis method to others. Though Dr. Reams died in 1988, today his bioanalysis technique is practiced and taught by his son, Eugene Reams, and his many students throughout the U.S. and Canada. Dr. Reams raised six children to adulthood, and none of them ever had a cold, ever had a cavity, ever missed a day of school in their lives! (They were all honor students, too.) "People would come to Dr. Reams and say, "I'm experiencing such-and-such a symptom, what do you think I should do?", and Reams would say, "I don't know, I haven't tested you. Don't tell me your symptoms, I don't trust symptoms. I only want to see what your test numbers are. The numbers never lie." He had no favorite diets (except good, natural food), and he didn't believe in consuming unnecessary nutritional supplements. His philosophy was, find out what your body needs, supply that to your body, and you will experience better health." Further comments: Dr. Reams never actually went to Mexico. After he helped that first little boy, word got around and people began to flock to his door. The local medical folks charged him with practising medicine w/out a license, so he moved to another state and bought a ranch. Pretty soon, 300 people a month were coming to him. The doctors in that state got him thrown in jail for a year, so he sold his ranch, moved to another state and bought a ranch way out in the boonies with no street signs. 300 people a month showed up. One night, someone came in and burned his ranch down. So he moved to another state, and began doing what he should have done from the start: Teach his testing method to others. When I first read one of the books about Dr. Reams, it addressed some very important concerns I had had about the nutritional field. When I first began investigating the field of holistic health (back in the 70's), I didn't like the fact that 10 different people would write 10 different books describing 10 different diets that everyone should eat, accompanied by wonderful testimonies from people who had experienced renewed health. Yet each of these books described diets that were mutually exclusive of each other. One author would declare with great authority that everyone should eat 75 grams of protein per day, while another would state unequivocally that the healthiest diet was pure
Re: CS>New Scientist article in No:2136.
This is similar to the properties of Microhydrin. A "cage" holds H- . It's off subject, but I've used MH for quite some time and must say it's quite an amazing substance. From: Marshall Dudley Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>New Scientist article in No:2136. Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 12:48:30 -0500 Buckminister Fullerene was the inventor of the geodesic dome. The same design is found on a soccer ball. It is made up of hexagons and pentagons in an interlocking pattern forming a sphere. There are normally either 60 or 70 vertexes in the pattern. If you take carbon atoms and place one at each vertex then you will have a carbon "ball" with 60 or 70 atoms in it. It is extremely stable, and has some unusual properties. It was initially theorized they would make a good lubricant, but it does not. But being hollow, atoms or small molecules can be inserted inside of them, which leads to some interesting chemistry and physics. The theory of and discovery of buckyballs is the main example I use when talking about how thought creates reality. It is an excellent example. See http://www.mindspring.com/~kimall/Fuller/ Marshall Jan Carew wrote: > Re:CS>(fwd) [Mr_Tracys_Corner] Bizarre chemical discovery gives homeopathic > ... > > Well done, Chuck! - ie putting that New Scientist article onto the list so > promptly and thereby keeping the list informed of the very latest. > > We get the magazine sent out and had just read it - delighted the "real " > scientists are at last realising there's "something in it"! > > I've never come across 'fullerenes' and 'buckyballs' - can any of you > chemists out there explain the terms? > > Jan > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp
Re: CS>CS prosystems
The question of whether or not baking soda is acceptable is not clear. Explain to me why baking soda is a "contaminant". That infers it is harmful. I want to know specifics from a bio-physiological perspective, not just generalized comments. From: j...@natel.net (John A. Stanley) Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>CS prosystems Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 03:21:21 -0600 In article , "D G" wrote: > I would like to know why some have posted Dr. Marx's CS makers as inferior >or substandard. He clearly is knowledgeable about the subject, and if I >recall has received recognition from one CS society; I don't recall the >name. > I find his website quite informative and have spoken with him on occasion >for unrelated subjects. Please be detailed in your critique as generalized >statements don't sit well with me. I know nothing of the quality of design, components, and workmanship of his units, so I can not comment on whether they are "inferior or substandard". But, from reading his website I can understand people having a problem with his advocating the addition of baking soda in the distilled water. The impression I get from reading the two CS forums is that the more well-informed view is that nothing should ever be used in the production of CS other than high quality DW and pure silver. Personally, I would never recommend anyone buy a CS generator that is designed and calibrated for use with a conductive contaminant. I don't know if Dr. Marx's units will work without baking soda, but the simple fact that he advocates the use of it would be enough for me to steer a potential buyer to a different unit. -- John A. Stanley j...@natel.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp
CS>CS prosystems
I would like to know why some have posted Dr. Marx's CS makers as inferior or substandard. He clearly is knowledgeable about the subject, and if I recall has received recognition from one CS society; I don't recall the name. I find his website quite informative and have spoken with him on occasion for unrelated subjects. Please be detailed in your critique as generalized statements don't sit well with me. Thanks _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>original complete Beck site
http://www.quantumbalancing.com Did I spell it wrong the last time? From: Tai-Pan Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>original complete Beck site Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 00:48:20 -0600 _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp --- Begin Message --- Hi Rose by, I can not get it to open either. :-) Chuck knows he's safe hiding behind his computer. :-) Bless you, Bob Lee a rose by any other name wrote: DG, thank you for the site. At present I cannot get it to open, but will see if it will work later. Again, thank you. Chuck, please read the question before you pubically chastise someone. I never asked for someone to build it for free, what I said was did anyone know of a private individual who made the units. Since we have a 501 c 3 non profit humane society providing permanent care for challenged animals and depend almost entirely on donations the 440+ for the two machines from Sota is, to us, extremely expensive. We are looking for an enterprising individual with electronic expertise. Plus, when we read the information posted here about the plans with the strobe, and possibly being more of what we want, it appears to be a modification on the Beck design. Maybe we are wrong. It is a unit that would be most effective on parvo and a host of other diseases we deal with on a regular basis with incoming animals. I will probably get "in trouble" but it has been a long day with many animal issues so to be greeted by your ill concieved comments doesn't sit well. How will this planet ever come to compassion when we treat each other so harshly. Okay Mike, I'm done. Anyone else PLEASE _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour -- oozing on the muggy shore of the gulf coast l...@fbtc.net --- End Message ---
CS>original complete Beck site
It has changed names and looks, but the website to visit is
http://www.quantumbalancing.com
From: cking...@nycap.rr.com
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>OT need Beck information please
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:14:20 -0500
Dr Beck went to a good deal of trouble to assure that his devices and
protocols
would be freely available forever. He even patented them so that no one
could
control them.
Some simple research will turn up plans for the devices. Use the search
engines.
If you're educated in electronics, you would be able to construct them for
the
price of parts and a few afternoons. If you're not, then the cost of your
education and skill development will have to be a factor. Expecting others
to do
the work for free is a bit over the top.
Actually SOTA is a reasonable cost as you are about to find out.
Chuck
Diploma: The guy who fixes your sink!
On Tue, 20 Nov 2001 09:23:47 -0600, "a rose by any other name"
wrote:
>Hi list,
>Does anyone know where we can get a magnetic pulser(according to the
strobe
>light plans {radio shack}) and blood cleanser (Beck) built for a
reasonable
>cost? Sota is very expensive, and we know it is possible to do it for
much
>less. Is there not also a Beck list that we might try? Any help in
>locating a private individual that makes these units would be most
>appreciated. E mail me privately. Thank you so much...
>
>a rose...
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Re: CS>Failed Experiment
I have horses, and have much experience with them and gas colic, as well as the water tank accumlating algae. I have never used CS for that, but without a doubt in my experience, grapefruit seed extract will obliterate fungus and algae. 1 ml (about 25 drops) professional strength GSE in a 50 gallon water tank kills the algae within a few hours. If put in the tank in the afternoon, the next morning the algae dies and washes right out. I don't know what the minimum needed is. We had a problem horse with gas colic. I spiked her water and food. No more gas. We also used it to arrest and cure two serious infected ulcers on my father's right foot (scheduled for ampuatation). Mixed at 10,000 ppm in a warm whirlpool foot bath, it saved his feet. We repeated this procedure many times and never failed. It also has a most therapeutic affect in debrising diabetic feet. A person read my article and took it to Chile. His father had a severe infection (diabetic uclcers). He gave the information to his doctor and they used it on him. It saved his leg. I don't know if CS would accomplish the same thing or not mixed at low ppm. Does anyone have experience with CS doing what I did? I'd be interested in knowing. From: "Judith Thamm" Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: Subject: Re: CS>Failed Experiment Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 15:49:38 +1030 Do you mean the white powdered extract? I have not tried that as a fungicide - but I have pestered my poor long-suffering husband into using the extract as a sweetener in his cups of tea, I use it in baking and cooking - mainly because it lacks the liquorice taste of the whole leaf solution. I wouldn't expect the extract to work as well as the whole leaf solution; one of the characteristics of the leaf is its fungicidal ability. Judith. From: "Marshall Dudley" To: Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 3:06 PM Subject: Re: CS>Failed Experiment > Have you tried refined stevia? > > Marshall > > Judith Thamm wrote: > > > Dear Damian, > > I have also tested CS as a fungicide in our nursery and found that I got > > better results from Stevia leaf than CS. > > > > Put 2-3 Teaspoons stevia in a litttre of water and let it soak overnight. > > Straain and store on a glass bottle. This solution will keep without > > refirigeration for months. You can boil the leaves and water for 20 ins, > > but I prefer the cold soak method. > > > > I dilute the murky green solution to half water half stevia liquid. > > > > Used it for propagating seedlings. [Note now retired from nursery - gone > > orgainic instead]. > > > > Regards, > > Judith. > > > > > Dear Damian, > > > I have observed, with interest, several postings on the > > > list.that Colloidal Silver is an excellent fungicide. This has not > > been > > > our experience. Several years ago we conducted some efficacy tests for CS > > > against 10 specimens of "garden-variety" type fungi. > > > We used concentrations between 5 ppm and 10ppm. Complete control resulted > > > in one case, moderate control in one case..and almost no control in 8 > > > cases. We did not conduct follow-up tests and our control standards were > > > minimal. However, we concluded that---for whatever reason---CS is not a > > > reliable fungicide or algicide. Whether or notover timeit is a > > > fungistatic, I cannot say..as we did not conduct extended population > > > counts to verify UP or DOWN population movements. This was not a genuine > > > scientific study and parametric control could not be claimed. > > > However, simultaneously-conducted bacteria and virus-based > > > evaluations (with parametric controls) yielded 100% pathogenic control > > > results..sometimes in concentrations as low as .025 ppm/ > > > I am somewhat puzzled as to the claims of CS being a > > > powerful fungicide. It would be of considerable value to learn of > > > successful experiments conducted by any list members..or any research > > > organization. We would be quite interested to learn the exact nature of > > any > > > successful protocol where CS was an effective "stand-alone" fungi control. > > > We have found H202 (in low concentrations [ 1%] ) to > > be > > > quite effective in controlling algae and a wide range of fungi-most > > > especially anaerobic or near-anaerobic types. Chlorine-based solutions > > have > > > demonstrated (to us) to be exceptionally > > > powerful in subjugating all fungi and algae..we have tested. > > > Unfortunately, the human health impact of chlorine-containing solutions do > > > not augur well; therefore, wisdom seems to dictate their use ONLY in > > > non-potable water circumstances. > > >Thi has just been our experience in a single set of > > > circumstances and does not constitute any form of reliable, repeatable > > > evidence. > > > Sincerely
CS>public disinformation
I am new to the list, but not new to colloidal silver. I recently was sent an article written in the Detroit Free Press, which has the usual claptrap trying to discredit any and all alternative medicine and protocols. I believe the author of the article got her information from this source: http://medserv.dk/print.php?sid=1010 Typically what they will do is pick a few unscrupulous marketers and attempt to give the impression that all are one in the same. I have much experience with this in just my family alone, but also with many others. I have already replied to the writer and would encourage others to do the same. I have yet to find a reliable source to tell me one way or another if CS is effective against anthrax, although I know of other methods. For the inhalation variety, CS is probably one of if not the only method to use, assuming the pathogen will succomb to CS. The Free Press article is: FIGHTING ANTHRAX: From oregano to silver, Internet offers treatments But caution is urged because so-called cures as reliable as snake oil October 24, 2001 BY ELLEN CREAGER FREE PRESS STAFF WRITER Can anthrax infection be prevented by drinking colloidal silver, rubbing oil of oregano on your skin or wearing a $750 gas mask? Internet marketers are seeking to make a buck on people's fears. Buyers beware. Colloidal silver, a suspension of silver particles in water, was used in the 19th Century to fight infection before the invention of antibiotics. Believers claim colloidal silver can cure not only anthrax poisoning, but AIDS, leukemia, typhoid, venereal diseases and other infections. The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta, however, says it doesn't work. Consuming colloidal silver can turn a person's skin blue or gray permanently, a condition called algyria, from the buildup of silver in the body. The Food and Drug Administration outlawed its sale in 1999. But that hasn't stopped a city in Florida, Howey-in-the-Hills, which is north and west of Orlando, from adding colloidal silver to its drinking water as an antianthrax measure, or multiple Internet sites from spamming consumers. A Provo, Utah, company called Golden Life sells it by the gallon, for $96. A site called B & A Products of Bunch, Okla., sells a make-your-own-colloidal-silver kit for $75. Other pitches to prey on people's anthrax fears? Sites that sell the antianthrax antibiotic Cipro at exorbitant prices without a prescription. Many of them use the pitch, "Protect Your Family!" or appeal to nervous consumers to get the drug before it's gone. Some of the Cipro is likely fake or comes in uneven doses, warns the FDA. It's illegal to sell Cipro without a prescription. Sites that offer elaborate gas masks. One Millersville, Md., company sells an electronic gas mask for $750. Simpler masks, such as B & D's Air Aid Masks (10 for $34) are sold out, as are all their respirators, the company said Tuesday. Another site shouts "Buy the gas mask used by the FBI!" Such gas masks are useless without regularly-changed filters. Sites offering to douse your mail with sterilizing steam, gamma rays or UV radiation. "Sterilizes up to 200 No. 10 envelopes in 40 minutes!" advertises one, Alfa Medical, promoting its $2,799 personal-use autoclave. Sites pitching herbs, homeopathic treatments or other alternative medicine to treat anthrax poisoning. Natures Wonders of Callahan, Fla., instructs consumers how to use Oil of Oregano essential oil ($72.95) against skin anthrax. The oil has slight antibacterial properties, a poor way to combat anthrax's fierce endotoxins. Contact ELLEN CREAGER at 313-222-6498 or at ecrea...@freepress.com < mailto:ecrea...@freepress.com>. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Dowsing????
i rhought safeway did. Dennis --- Begin Message --- On Mon, 27 Dec 1999 12:01:52 -0700 (MST), djg5...@webtv.net (D G) wrote: >they knew about genes? > >Dennis I think he meant "Jeans". Levi Strauss started the downfall of the civilized world. Chuck If you want to steam a clam... Make fun of his religion (Chuck Barris) -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour --- End Message ---
Re: CS>SILVER
i been limpiing along on three nines 'till now. this stuff should make GREAT cs. Dennis -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>SILVER
this isn't a "real" silver dollar, it's a silver investment coin dated 1991 & suitable for ira iinvestment the blurb said. Dennis -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS silver
i checked the recommended site and the coin i have is said to be . fine silver. kewl "go ahead... panic" Dennis -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Welcome to the 21st century!!!
heh heh i bet there is a lot of distraught whacko doomsayers there. Dennis -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Re: SAMANTHA!!!! URGENT!!!! Re: CS>Flu/peroxide
major kewl!!! where can i buy a 35% peroxide plant? kidding. Dennis -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>SILVER
it's a standing liberty representation coin that says one oounce fine silver, but it doesn't say HOW fine. darn it. Dennis -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>SILVER
tempmered silver??? i thought it was like gold and had a recrysatalization point below freezing. Dennis -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>SILVER
any info on colloidal nickle? Dennis -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>SILVER
it says fine silver (not sterling) but is not stamped .999. so... is it safe to make cs with? or should i trade it in for soomething stamped .999? Dennis -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>SILVER
i just use 9v batteries and distilled water. the extra time means nothing... it's going to pass anyway. i'd be skeered of making some sort of silver salts or something using anything in the water. Dennis --- Begin Message --- i'm using some 1 oz bars right now, to experiment with. i was using high voltage. i decided to experiment with some low voltage (3 9volt batteries). i forgot what i was supposed to use to prevent the buildup on the electrodes (u know, the black flakes that turn gooey when the circuit is broken) will a drop of honey or baking soda prevent build up.. jd -Original Message- From: D G To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Thursday, December 30, 1999 5:51 PM Subject: Re: CS>SILVER yup. it says 1 oz. fine silver one dollar. retails for about nine. Dennis __ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour --- End Message ---
Re: CS>SILVER
yup. it says 1 oz. fine silver one dollar. retails for about nine. Dennis --- Begin Message --- what kind of coin? is it a US coin? jd ps. if anyone wants to make $20, go to this site: https://preview.x.com/new_account.asp?referrer=jdkl...@netzero.net you can get referral fees too? -Original Message- From: D G To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Thursday, December 30, 1999 5:35 PM Subject: CS>SILVER i just got a coin that says one ounce fine silver on it, but isn't stamped .999 fine . is it good enuff for cs? Dennis -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour __ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html --- End Message ---
CS>SILVER
i just got a coin that says one ounce fine silver on it, but isn't stamped .999 fine . is it good enuff for cs? Dennis -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Free book for you
whats the book about? Dennis --- Begin Message --- You can obtain a free copy of HANDBOOK FOR THE NEW PARADIGM. You can receive the complete 195-page book for FREE: http://www.nohoax.com/nohoax/html/specmessage.html Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour --- End Message ---
Re: CS>Dowsing????
except the one in w. va. Dennis --- Begin Message --- Marsha Hallett wrote: > Hey, James, have you ever read the Book of Jasher? It states that only those > animals who knelt before Noah were to be allowed onto the Ark. They were > genetically pure, and worthy to survive. > Others had been crossed, as the genes weren`t separated yet, so that is why > we see ancient representations of winged humans, centaurs, etc. > Interesting...Fits right in there with Sitchin. > Marsha Another possibility from http://www.greatdreams.com/reptlan/reps.htm: DRACO MOTHMEN In the constellation of Draco, there is another race of entities which has in the past visited Earth. They are 8-foot-tall. dark, nocturnal aliens who appeared around graveyards and parks. They have red eyes that glow in the dark and wings to fly. They are referred to by us as Mothmen. They are also the source of legends of the past relating to gargoyles and Valkeries. Even some qualities of vampires have been taken from the qualities of this creature -- the ability to fly and nocturnal habits. The Mothmen have no particular influence on earth at this time other than as causing panic and a cause for curiosity. They are mostly hidden underground and do not wish to attract attention Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour --- End Message ---
RE: CS>Dowsing????
they knew about genes? Dennis --- Begin Message --- Hi Folks, That is very probably true. Lawrence Gardner's research says that the original meaning of the word which has come down to us from the very distant past as "sin", originally meant "genetic defect". James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com -Original Message- From: Nicole Fraser [SMTP:on_ne_change_...@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, December 27, 1999 11:32 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Re: CS>Dowsing << File: ATT00016.html >> I believe it simply means that if the world was without sin, then we would have no disease.>> I am sorry, I am not sure if you are agreeing or disagreeing with that statement? but I would have to agree with that completely! :0) Nicole:O) - Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com account at Yahoo! Mail. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour --- End Message ---
Re: CS>New Scars On Face
regrew a hand? whenwherehow? documented? Dennis --- Begin Message --- Silver causes injured cells to revert back to stem cells, which can then become anything they need to be. If you have a gaping wound then it will fill with blood, which if you have silver ions available will convert to juvinile or stem cells, which then become whatever you need to heal totally and completely without scaring. I know of one case in which an entire hand was regrown using silver ions, and it ended up completely functional and except for missing all the scars and blemishes that were on it before it was cut off, identical to the old hand. Theoratically the hand will be young, so it is possible that when the person is very old, that regrown hand will still look like it is a young adult's. Unfortunately scar tissue will not rejuvinate. I have read that to remove a scar, it has to be physically removed, then the silver ions applied to the wound, and it will then heal without scar tissue. Marshall Marshall cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote: > On Sun, 26 Dec 1999 16:04:53 -0600, "Nutritional Intelligence Cooperative of > North America" wrote: > > >a piece of silver would work better. i have seen dramatic pictures of > >silver cloth bandages on a forehead trauma. Silver speeds up the healing > >and reduces scarring. > > > >jd > > Yow, > Now we're back on topic! > How'd that happen? > Chuck > Frisbeetarianism is the belief that when you die, your soul goes up on the > roof and gets stuck > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour --- End Message ---
RE: CS>Gout
yes it is h Dennis --- Begin Message --- At 08:01 PM 12/26/99 -0500, you wrote: >I am continually amazed at this list. Every cure must be purchased. Like >nutrition cures nothing, but a supplement can and will cure anything. >It's a wonder we lived long enough to populate the earth without >supplements. > > >Robert >~~ Ah com'on Robert...this is the list where people make silver! Nutrition...high potassium foods include black strap molasses, potatoes, tomato or V8 juice, bananas http://www.Krispin.com/index.htp Good info on potassium and potassium rich foods. [note: the body cannot hold onto or utilize potassium without magnesium] There is a herbal supplement on the net specific to gout...search for it...(don't have info any more...) ~^^V^^~ -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour --- End Message ---
Re: CS>Dowsing????
mike, shes gettin' preachy Dennis -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Unidentified subject!
what herb melted arterial plaque? Dennis -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>A Wish
pay up. it's 2001. 6601 e. hwy. 60#220 gold canyon az 85219 postal mo only Dennis --- Begin Message --- Thanks for all your good wishes and we have a whole year to prepare for the new millennium. The new millennium does not start untill the year 1001. I will give you 100 if i am not correct. Count it out 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 eleven starts the the second decade. 1 started the first decade not 0 Best wishes ,Harold -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour --- End Message ---
Re: CS>In search of a good search engine
try: askjeeves.com Dennis -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>oil
what would it advise? Dennis --- Begin Message --- Read "Fats that heal, Fats that Kill" by Udo Eramus. Great book. Dave Reese "James Osbourne, Holmes" wrote: > I have been thinking Olive is the best bet, but tomorrow we may be told it is > an alien plot... > James Osbourne Holmes > a...@trail.com > > -----Original Message- > From: D G [SMTP:djg5...@webtv.net] > Sent: Saturday, December 18, 1999 8:17 AM > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject:CS>oil > > is there a veggie oil that isn"t > toxic waste? > i LIKE mayonaise but wanna be here > to enjoy it. > > Dennis > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour --- End Message ---
Re: CS>oil
olestra? wazat? Dennis -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>oil
is there a veggie oil that isn"t toxic waste? i LIKE mayonaise but wanna be here to enjoy it. Dennis -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Re: Nellie/Milk magnesium
i,disagree chuck... its a brand new 2nd leiutenant" Dennis -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Re: Pets and CS
would IV cs pass the blood\brain barrier? Dennis -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Need Help with Eye (retina)
what's briam macinturfs website? does he have a list? Dennis -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>OT, Something interesting
i wrote that, not liahona Dennis --- Begin Message --- In a message dated 12/12/1999 3:51:47 PM Pacific Standard Time, liah...@pacbell.net writes: > Lakota, not Dakota? Yes, Lakota. It was the largest population of three groups (the Lakota, Dakota, and Nakota). Nowadays frequently, they are all referred to as Dakota (the Teton Dakota, Yankton Dakota, and the Santee Dakota). Also referred to as the Sioux. However, that name is not liked because it was the Ojibwa's name for them which meant treacherous snakes. Nellie Christ, my all <>< -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour --- End Message ---
Re: CS>OT, Something interesting
Lakota, not Dakota? Dennis --- Begin Message --- Dear Silver Listers, This is pretty interesting, so I~m sending it along. Marsha A pre-millennial event of some note; since there are no unplanned moments in nature, this one could be a reminder of how grand nature's plan can appear to us. It is especially cool for all you with wide-eyed young kids (and a few who just must be interested in staring at the sky). All I can say is it had better not be cloudy in two weeks! This year will be the first full moon to occur this century on the winter solstice, Dec.22, commonly called the first day of winter, since a full moon on the winter solstice occurred in conjunction with a lunar perigee (point in the moon's orbit that is closest to Earth). The moon will appear about 14% larger than it does at apogee (the point in it's elliptical orbit that is farthest from the Earth. Since the Earth is also several million miles closer to the sun at this time of the year than in the summer, sunlight striking the moon is about 7% stronger, making it brighter. Also, this will be the closest perigee of the Moon of the year since the moon's orbit is constantly deforming. If the weather is clear and there is a snow cover where you live, it is believed that even car headlights will be superfluous. On December 21st, 1866 the Dakota Sioux took advantage of this combination of occurrences and staged a devastating retaliatory ambush on soldiers in the Wyoming Territory. In laymen's terms it will be a super bright full moon, much more than the usual AND it hasn't happened this way for 133 years! Our ancestors 133 years ago saw this. Our descendants 100 or so years from now will see this again. Remember, this will happen December 22, 1999. --- End Message ---
Re: CS>RE:Particle size -LV and HV
oh :-) =^..^= Dennis --- Begin Message --- Mine is... (^_^) djg5...@webtv.net writes: powered by D-9 thc?? Dennis From: "James Osbourne, Holmes" To: "'silver-list@eskimo.com'" Subject: RE: CS>RE:Particle size -LV and HV Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 17:05:27 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"mnvIv1.0.od2.75QKu"@mx1> Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/17530 X-Loop: silver-list@eskimo.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com I've got an organic one but it is not for sale! James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com To:silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>RE:Particle size -LV and HV does anyone have any advice to offer about purchasing a C.E.S. unit? (cranial electrical stimulation) anyone have a used one for sale? jd -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour --- End Message ---
Re: CS and the latest FDA crackdown!
boy ur naieve. we already are!!! Dennis --- Begin Message --- Check this out! We are evolving into a police state run by medical fascists! http://www.bioelectrifier.com/index.htm";> -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour --- End Message ---
Re: CS>Pain Pain Pain
probably they make it. ew sounds poisonous. Dennis --- Begin Message --- That's what it says on the label. I get if from an herbal store in town. They get it from somewhere else and put their own label on it. It is brown and a bit thicker than water. Also is kinda sweetish tasting. I don't use it internally, but have tasted it. They won't say who the manufacturer is. D G wrote: > > fifteen hundred ppm? > jesus crimminey. thats bullion almost!!! > > Dennis > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour --- End Message ---
Re: CS>Containers for storing CS?
milk jugs are all i use!!! works fine. Dennis --- Begin Message --- Absolutely not! Never ever store silver in plastic. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour --- End Message ---
Re: CS>Pain Pain Pain
fifteen hundred ppm? jesus crimminey. thats bullion almost!!! Dennis -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>RE:Particle size -LV and HV
powered by D-9 thc?? Dennis --- Begin Message --- I've got an organic one but it is not for sale! James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com -Original Message- From: Nutritional Intelligence Cooperative of North America [SMTP:jdkl...@netzero.net] Sent: Friday, December 10, 1999 12:12 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Re: CS>RE:Particle size -LV and HV does anyone have any advice to offer about purchasing a C.E.S. unit? (cranial electrical stimulation) anyone have a used one for sale? jd __ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour --- End Message ---
Re: CS>Pain Pain Pain
acyclovir is for shingles. see ur dr. Dennis --- Begin Message --- In a message dated 12/10/99 12:24:02 PM Central Standard Time, hr...@ados.com writes: << Pain, severe pain. I must have help I will probably be reprimanded for this inquiry but I am desparately seeking an answer. I have shingles (herpies zoster) over the upper right quarter of my head together with the same thing infecting my right eye. Can anyone tell me how I can get some relief from the alternate medicine field? I have a rife machine and silver generator and am hurting like everything >> That can be VERY serious in the eye. It is a virus of the chickenpox family. It usurally shows up from stress or/and a drop in the immune system response. I would see a doctor on that one. Gene Downey -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour --- End Message ---
RE: CS>Re: Bil, Sludge & Honey
gotta workable alternative? Dennis --- Begin Message --- Hi Ivan, Green is manipulated to equal "reservation of natural resources for the WO"---new is same as old. The UN was created by the same dynasties which controlled and benefited from the John Company, and the Dutch, French, and Spanish trading cartels in the 1700' and later (Dates may be in error). Their goal is not protection of the environment but to use that argument to seize control of forests, etc. The money is a nice side-effect and a useful carrot for the lower-end minions, but it is not really an issue for them. They want to keep money out of everyone's hands in order to limit independence and resistance. But they can create out of thin air as much as they need. James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com -Original Message- From: Ivan Anderson [SMTP:i...@win.co.nz] Sent: Thursday, December 09, 1999 3:23 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Re: CS>Re: Bil, Sludge & Honey Hi James, "illusion of freedom controlled by commercial law.(institutionalised greed?)" Well that is ongoing, although we have taken a step in the other direction here in NZ with the recent election of a centre left govt. with a green party vote required for a majority. Ivan - Original Message - From: James Osbourne, Holmes To: Sent: Thursday, 9 December 1999 13:20 Subject: RE: CS>Re: Bil, Sludge & Honey > I very much agree, except I would include the "American Revolution". It > was a plan to quietly switch from overt monarchial tyranny to the > James Osbourne Holmes > a...@trail.com > > > -Original Message- > From: Sam Earle [SMTP:sear...@prodigy.net] > Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 1999 8:56 AM > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: Re: CS>Re: Bil, Sludge & Honey > > All modern wars (since the American Revolution) are bad ideas, and all have > been started for monetary reasons. The U.S. involvement in the World Wars, > especially, was calculated and deliberate. The Cold War was a hoax, as is > the new Cold War with China. It's all about our own government waging war > on > our freedom in order to own our labor, and it's directed by the richest and > most anonymous people in the world, who control the banks which control > everything. > > Sam > > > so nukeing japan to save 1,000,000 > > american gi's was bad idea?? > > > > Dennis > > > > 51/50 > > 24/7 > > > > > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour > --- End Message ---
Re: CS>Collodial copper
"WE BELIEVE" & "MAY" sure covers lots of territory :-D Dennis --- Begin Message --- Is this an ad for copper mineral water? - Original Message - From: Robert Ratliff To: Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 1999 10:46 PM Subject: RE: CS>Collodial copper > While you are on copper water look at Bill Rich's site. He uses a new high > tech method that is supposed to make smaller particles. > http://richdistributing.com/ > > > Copper is classified as an essential mineral. If the body does not acquire a > sufficient amount of copper, hemoglobin production is decreased and copper > anemia can result. Various enzyme reactions require copper as well. In the > body, the liver and brain contain the largest amounts of copper with other > organs containing smaller amounts. Copper imbalances can produce various > symptoms, inefficient utilization of iron and protein, diarrhea, high > cholesterol, thyroid problems, stunted growth, mental and emotional > problems, just to name a few. > > > Nutritional copper is believed to be beneficial in helping overcome chronic > inflammation, grey hair, cancer, parasites, arthritis, skin wrinkles, and > joint problems such as arthritis, bursitis, and rheumatism. > > > Below is a list of conditions we believe our products may be helpful with: > > White hair > Liver Cirrhosis > Hernias > Varicose veins > Arthritis Gray hair > Allergies > Rutured disc > Neutropenia > Kawasaki disease Dry brittle hair > Parasites > Aneurysms > Anemia > Gulf War syndrome > Iron storage disease > High blood cholesterol > Hypo and hyper thyroid > Reduced glucose tolerance (low blood sugar) > Cerebral palsy and hypoplasiea of the cerebellum (congenital ataxia) > Violent behavior, blind rage, explosive outbursts, criminal behaviour > > > > Robert > > -Original Message- > From: James Allison [mailto:apothec...@home.com] > Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 1999 7:14 AM > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: Re: CS>Collodial copper > > > COPPER MINERAL WATER > > Copper is an essential "trace mineral" most important in the > production of hemoglobin. A lack of copper is the usual precursor to heart > disease; aneurysms; and, decreases in the elasticity of blood vessels. > Studies also indicate that increased copper intake "significantly retarded > developments of cancers in animals and also decreased liver damage and > cirrhosis caused by cancer-inducing materials." > People have used WaterOz Copper Mineral Water topically for many different > skin conditions as well as for problems deep inside muscles, tendons, and > joint problems such as arthritis, bursitis and rheumatism. Taken internally > and about one half to one teaspoon per day, it can circulate to all parts of > the body. > Here is a list of conditions Copper is "believed" be helpful with: > > Allergies Anemia Aneurysms Arthritis > Dry brittle hair Gray hair Gulf war syndrome Hernias > Cholesterol Thyroid disorders Iron storage disease Kawasaki disease > Liver cirrhosis Neutropenia Parasites Ruptured disc > Reduced glucose tolerance(low blood sugar) >Varicose veins > Violent behavior, blind rage, explosive outbursts, criminal behavior > > > > Yours in health, > James Allison > > Allisons Apothecary > http://allisonsapothecary.com > Home of the $29.95 Colloidal Silver Generator > > - Original Message - > From: Jeffrey A. Madore > To: > Sent: Monday, December 06, 1999 9:44 PM > Subject: Re: CS>Collodial copper > > > > Would anyone know what the benefits of taking colloidal copper would be? > > What dose would be considered safe? > > Thanks, > > Jeff > > > > Marshall Dudley wrote: > > > > > Colloidal copper can be easily made from 14 gauge house wire. I have > done it, > > > same way as colloidal silver. > > > > > > Marshall > > > > > > -- > > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > --- End Message ---
RE: CS>Re drops per pint
nope. someone asked Dennis --- Begin Message --- Was there a typo here Dennis? James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com -Original Message- From: D G [SMTP:djg5...@webtv.net] Sent: Monday, December 06, 1999 11:14 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:CS>Re drops per pint 96 tsp. per pint, 30 drops per tsp. =2880 drops per pint. Dennis -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour --- End Message ---
Re: CS>Re:copper
funny. but that wasn't i meant Dennis --- Begin Message --- High enough dosage may turn it copper colored. Marshall D G wrote: > c copper cures grey hair??? > > Dennis > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour --- End Message ---
Re: CS>Re: Bil, Sludge & Honey
combined with cations? note plate out? please explain. Dennis --- Begin Message --- RE: > Thanks for the tip. I have tried the drop ( I used > a big drop) of honey when making 16 oz. CS > and it came out a real milky colored yellow. The > electrodes sure were clean though (no sludge). > > Obviously having any form of food in the mix > could cause unwanted silver compounds to be > formed. If you get no "sludge", in a DC process, then 100% of the ions of silver combined with cations of some disassociated material, and thus could note plate out to the negative electrode. Again, not a colloid but a solution of silver salts. I would say your water had a few PPM of material and the honey kicked it up over 5 or 10 PPM. How many drops in a pint? You Irish guys know? f...@health2us.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour --- End Message ---
CS>Re drops per pint
96 tsp. per pint, 30 drops per tsp. =2880 drops per pint. Dennis -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Re:copper
c copper cures grey hair??? Dennis -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Whence Vilik...(Velique)....
you should see my daughter :-) Dennis --- Begin Message --- Cute Irish boys and pretty Jewish girls A heady combination for your forebearers! ~^^V^^~ > -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour --- End Message ---
Re: CS>Whence Vilik...(Velique)....
& i' m a jew in spite of the irish name. (dennis garrett) my mom & grandmom married irishmen go figure :-D Dennis -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>!Arise and Shine!
chopsticks up the tuckus??? ewww Dennis 51/50 24/7 --- Begin Message --- do you mean has anyone successfully expelled the mucoid plaque from their intestines? from the duodenum to the colon? using chopsticks to examine and measure the plaque, as per Richard Anderson's ND book? jd -Original Message- From: Vilik Rapheles To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Sunday, December 05, 1999 3:39 PM Subject: CS>!Arise and Shine! > >Well, did that wake you up? > >Has anyone done the Arise and Shine cleansing program, and if so, >what did you think? > >~^^V^^~ > > >-- >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com >Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html >List maintainer: Mike Devour > > __ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html --- End Message ---
Re: CS>Re: Nellie/Milk
vilik is a charming name whence comes it? Dennis 51/50 24/7 --- Begin Message --- A women who drink more milk have more bone fractures than those that don't. ~~ Unreal... -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour --- End Message ---
Re: CS>shelf life
i use dw, .999 silver & 27vdc. NO salt &only pure water. Dennis 51/50 24/7 --- Begin Message --- Dennis, You will find, and see reflected in the answers, about the shelf life of colloidal silver, that most product is not colloidal silver! What I like to refer to as "true ionic colloidal silver" is a colloid since the ions (or clumps of) have a positive charge and since likes repel, there is a strong propensity to remain in that state and thus has an extremely long shelf life. Plain plastic bottles are just fine for well over a year, although they may impart some plastic taste, as the plasticizers leach out! Also darkness is not critical - I have run tests with a strong UV lamp 1/2 inch from a plastic bottle of (ionic) Cs for 3 weeks (far worse then a year of room light) and there was no decrease in the TDS! The taste was horrible as the bottle turned dark yellow and got brittle, as the UV released the plasticizers! What most people make and call colloidal silver are either solutions of silver salts or suspensions of silver crystals and usually a combination of both with a little colloid of silver (charged ions)! The shelf life and color then varies widely! f...@health2us.com -Original Message- From: D G [SMTP:djg5...@webtv.net] Sent: Saturday, December 04, 1999 7:08 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Re: CS>shelf life i thought cs lasted indefinately if stored in the dark. Dennis -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour --- End Message ---
Re: CS>RE radionics
radion...@onelist.com heh just checked. Dennis 51/50 24/7 --- Begin Message --- Dennis: Good question. Please include me if there is one. With regards Lew D G wrote: > is there a radionics list around? > > Dennis > > 51/50 > 24/7 > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour --- End Message ---
CS>RE radionics
is there a radionics list around? Dennis 51/50 24/7 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Re: Bil, Sludge & Honey
so nukeing japan to save 1,000,000 american gi's was bad idea?? Dennis 51/50 24/7 --- Begin Message --- After reflecting on your microwave link, I have to conclude that using it to heat distilled water to make CS will probably not be dangerous as I maintain about four bottles of CS at any given time and rotate them so I am always using CS that is several weeks old. I doubt that whatever dangerous "energy" is imparted to the water when heating it will persist for that length of time. Dick "James Osbourne, Holmes" wrote: > Blowing up people is not right. Neither is transmogrification of this > planet into television sets that don't work anymore. Eating mother is > taboo. > > I don't buy the...".Well, kill a few here to save thousands > there"routine, no matter who tries it, and regardless of the motive or > intent. Pure Bullshit. What pisses them the most is Kaczinski ripping > off governments prerogative to decide who gets to kill, who gets killed, > and for whose purposes. > > If indeed he did it. How can we know? > > As a joke, it made me laugh > > James Osbourne Holmes > a...@trail.com > > -Original Message- > From: Dick Jaffe [SMTP:rasputi...@earthlink.net] > Sent: Saturday, December 04, 1999 8:34 PM > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject:Re: CS>Re: Bil, Sludge & Honey > > You know, I'm beginning to think Ted Kaczinski was right! > > "James Osbourne, Holmes" wrote: > > > Microwave? See: > http://www.dhcour.coe.fr/eng/JUDGMENTS/HERTEL%20ENG.html > > James Osbourne Holmes > > a...@trail.com > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Dick Jaffe [SMTP:rasputi...@earthlink.net] > > Sent: Saturday, December 04, 1999 7:19 PM > > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Subject:Re: CS>Re: Bil, Sludge & Honey > > > > 1 1/2 hours?? What kind of power source are you using? What gauge .999 > fine > > silver wire? I have never had to go longer than 15 minutes to make a 24 > Oz. jar > > of microwave heated distilled water (with a drop of honey) using my 30 > volt > > homemade DC generator. The Tyndall effect from my laser pointer reflects > a > > viable CS solution. It may not be scientifically precise, but it sure > works. > > > > Dick > > > > Robert Ratliff wrote: > > > > > I tried the honey trick and got gold water, but it took the same amount > of > > > time to brew 8 PPM. about 1 1/2 hours. I'll bet the particles are > larger. > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > From: Dick Jaffe [mailto:rasputi...@earthlink.net] > > > > Sent: Saturday, December 04, 1999 1:08 PM > > > > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > > > > Subject: Re: CS>Re: Bil, Sludge & Honey > > > > > > > > > > > > I use only a tiny drop of honey on the end of a toothpick and I > > > > make my CS in a > > > > 24 Oz. "Simply Home" Campbell's soup jar. I can't recall now who > > > > gave me that > > > > honey trick but it was emphasized to use only a tiny drop. My 10 > minute > > > > solutions are clear and very pale yellow, not milky. > > > > > > > > 2001 TV VCR wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dick, > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the tip. I have tried the drop ( I used > > > > > a big drop) of honey when making 16 oz. CS > > > > > and it came out a real milky colored yellow. The > > > > > electrodes sure were clean though (no sludge). > > > > > > > > > > Obviously having any form of food in the mix > > > > > could cause unwanted silver compounds to be > > > > > formed. > > > > > > > > > > Anyone want to comment on this? > > > > > > > > > > Bil > > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > > > From: Dick Jaffe > > > > > To: > > > > > Sent: Friday, December 03, 1999 6:26 PM > > > > > Subject: Re: CS>Re: Bil, sludge > > > > > > > > > > > Try using a drop of honey on the tip of a toothpick stirred into > the > > > > > heated > > > > > > water before inserting the silver electrodes. I've been > > > > doing that for > > > > > > several years and get about a 10ppm solution, pale yellow in > color, in > > > > > about > > > > > > 10 minutes. > > > > > > > > > > > > Fred wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Is it possible to make 5 or 10 ppm CS by the gallon > > > > > > > > >> without the sludge using low voltage? > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> Bil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The process of generating colloidal silver is the same as > > > > > > > the plating process - ions are released and travel to the > > > > > > > negative electrode where they collect an electron and turn > > > > > > > back into silver. You can not stop that process! The fact > > > > > > > they are sludge instead of nice shiny silver is that conditions > > > > > > > are not right for fine crystal growth - normal silver plating > uses > > > > > > > cyanuric acid to provide good conductivity of the solution and > > > > > > > to assist in forming fine grain crystals. What you get are more > > > > > > > like snow flakes, weakly bound/random crystals! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See my other post why the HV AC proc
RE: CS>Re: Bil, Sludge & Honey
what other options? Dennis 51/50 24/7 --- Begin Message --- Yes, there were other options. Most of those harmed had no control over their governments actions. How about nuking Los Angles in order to improve food supplies for 1,000,000 Chinese? James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com -Original Message- From: D G [SMTP:djg5...@webtv.net] Sent: Sunday, December 05, 1999 9:37 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Re: CS>Re: Bil, Sludge & Honey << Message: Re: CS>Re: Bil, Sludge & Honey >> so nukeing japan to save 1,000,000 american gi's was bad idea?? Dennis 51/50 24/7 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour --- End Message ---
RE: CS>Health Research Group and CS/was pig fat
nah, i think it's mainly the money. Dennis 51/50 24/7 --- Begin Message --- Money is just a perk for them. It is about control and genocide. James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com -Original Message- From: Dick Jaffe [SMTP:rasputi...@earthlink.net] Sent: Sunday, December 05, 1999 9:10 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Re: CS>Health Research Group and CS/was pig fat Never underestimate the power of the pharmaceutical cartel. It's all about money! Creston wrote: > Hi Dick, > I am on another list and when I saw your post then, I went to the site below > for a search and found some more stuff on CS. Certainly, like you, I feel > they have not done their homework. > > I am starting to wonder if they have merged or *always were* (into quack > watch, covering the other end ) They appear to be hot and heavy into > "Steve Barrett-onics". > > http://www.citizen.org:8765/ > clicked on search, then entered > colloidal silver > then scrolled down to # 28 > * > Excerpt follows - here (copy and paste) > > Public Citizen's Health Research Group's(1) Comments On: > > Food and Drug Administration > List of Bulk Drug Substances That May Be Used in Pharmacy Compounding > > [Docket No. 98N-0182] > Submitted - March 23, 1999 > > 28. Silver Protein Mild. Mild silver protein is well characterized > chemically. It has been used to treat conjunctivitis and by ophthalmologists > as a preoperative chemical preparation of the eye. > > Colloidal silver is a dangerous quack product that is being heavily promoted > on the Internet. The following was taken from the web site of Allison's > Apothecary, 3628 East Willow Avenue, Phoenix, AZ: > > "Without overstating the case, it may be time to recognize colloidal silver > as not only the safest medicine on Earth, but also the most powerful. > > Since there is not enough room to list all the diseases against which > colloidal silver has been used successfully, here is a tiny sample; acne; > allergies; appendicitis; acne, allergies, appendicitis, arthritis, athlete's > foot, bladder inflammation, blood parasites, blood poisoning, boils, burns, > candida, cholera, colitis, conjunctivitis, cystitis, dermatitis, herpes, > impetigo, indigestion, keratitis, leprosy, leukemia, lupus, lymphangitis, > Lyme disease, malaria, meningitis, neurasthenia, parasitic infections: > viral, fungal and bacterial pneumonia, pleurisy, prostate pruritus ani, > psoriasis, purulent opthalmia, rhinitis, rheumatism, ringworm, scarlet > fever, septic conditions of the eyes, ears, mouth, and throat, seborrhea, > septicemia, shingles, staphylococcus and streptococcus infections, stomach > flu, syphilis, thyroid, tuberculosis, tonsillitis, toxemia, trachoma, all > forms of virus, warts, whooping cough, yeast infection, stomach ulcer, > canine parovirus and other veterinary uses, and all fungal and viral attacks > on plants. Simply spray diluted silver on the leaves and add to the soil. > (61)" > > Long-term use of silver preparations can lead to argyria, a condition in > which silver salts deposit in the skin, eyes, and internal organs, and the > skin turns ashen-gray. Many cases of argyria occurred during the > pre-antibiotic era when silver was a common ingredient in nose drops. When > the cause became apparent, doctors stopped recommending their use, and > reputable manufacturers stopped producing them. The official drug guidebooks > (United States Pharmacopeia and National Formulary) have not listed > colloidal silver products since 1975.(62) > > In October 1996, the FDA proposed to establish that all over-the-counter > (OTC) drug products containing colloidal silver ingredients or silver salts > for internal or external use are not generally recognized as safe and > effective and are misbranded. The FDA issued this proposal because many > products containing colloidal silver ingredients or silver salts are being > marketed for numerous serious disease conditions and the FDA is not aware of > any substantial scientific evidence that supports the use of OTC colloidal > silver ingredients or silver salts for these disease conditions.(63) Public > Citizen strongly urges that the FDA finalize this proposed rule as soon as > possible. > > Numerous FDA approved ophthalmic products are available for the treatment of > conjunctivitis and as antibiotics for use in the eyes and because of its > association with argyria mild silver protein should not be included on the > list of bulk drug substances that may be compounded. > > -end of copy and paste - > > Dick, I for one am glad that you steered my attention to this site. Somehow, > I had thought Dr. Sidney Wolfe's stuff was reliable but I see it's not. > H.B. > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. > Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal s
Re: CS>Re: CS vs Olive Leaf - silver-digest Digest V99 #784
GSE is hard to get? my local "mom n pop" health food store had it. have u checked the web? "bubble"? Dennis 51/50 24/7 --- Begin Message --- In reply to Dennis (and to echo Vilik) Dennis: to date, CS hasn't helped me either . . . oxygen therapy did - but very expensive (and you spend an awful lot of time in the powder room!); grapefruit seed extract does - but it is hard to come by - the good stuff . . . . So I am going to try olive leaf extract. Sorry to burst your bubble, but I'm sure it's because everyone's pathogens are different . . .. jeannine -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour --- End Message ---
Re: CS>shelf life
i thought cs lasted indefinately if stored in the dark. Dennis 51/50 24/7 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>TDS
get one FREE 1800-777-8801 Dennis 51/50 24/7 --- Begin Message --- where can i purchase the TDs meter please? brenda b. Yahoo ID b29651 IM b29651 ICQ# 25804617 -Original Message- From: James Osbourne, Holmes To: 'silver-list@eskimo.com' Date: Tuesday, November 30, 1999 11:01 AM Subject: RE: CS>TDS >You may buy a still, or buy distilled water. The water which I have found >best here in Santa Fe New Mexico is "Arrowhead". With my Sprite 6000 >meter, it has always tested 0.0 TDS. That however, is not conductive >enough. I have made up a solution of baking soda [sodium hydrogen >carbonate or sodium bicarbonate] and add enough of that to get the >conductivity up to 0.8 PPM. It would be better to speak directly in mS, >because that eliminates the variable of how the TDS is calibrated. I don't >know if this is generally true, but the Arrowhead distributor here is the >Coca Cola Company. > >A conductivity meter is the first tool one should get after getting almost >any generator. > >James Osbourne Holmes >a...@trail.com > > >-Original Message- >From: aka Jhon [SMTP:maj.yo...@ellijay.com] >Sent: Monday, November 29, 1999 4:57 PM >To: silver-list@eskimo.com >Subject: Re: CS>TDS > > Where do you get pure water from, if this is true??? > >- Original Message - >From: James Osbourne, Holmes >To: >Sent: Monday, November 29, 1999 3:53 PM >Subject: RE: CS>TDS > > >> The TDS meter measures conductivity of the water. It is calibrated with >> ---usually NaCl. Different solutes have different conductivity, but it >is >> usually close enough. If you deal in mS you eliminate that variation. >> >> What I as pointing out is that it is unlikely that home or commercial RO >> water is pure enough i.e., low enough conductivity for CS generation. >> >> One local commercial RO water I measured was 4.+ PPM. Typically the >> rejection rates are about 95%. My incoming water is 240 PPM, so do the >> math. Same for your water. >> >> James Osbourne Holmes >> a...@trail.com >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: D G [SMTP:djg5...@webtv.net] >> Sent: Monday, November 29, 1999 12:45 PM >> To: silver-list@eskimo.com >> Subject: RE: CS>TDS >> >> << Message: RE: CS>TDS >> but i thought the the TDS meter was to test >the >> purity of their system's >> water for cs production?! >> h >> >> Dennis >> >> 51/50 >> 24/7 >> >> >> >> -- >> The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. >> >> To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: >> silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com >> with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. >> >> To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com >> Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html >> List maintainer: Mike Devour >> > > --- End Message ---
Re: CS>Re: Tinnitus (ringing in the ears)? >>
using all caps is like yelling at people. regards, Dennis 51/50 24/7 --- Begin Message --- I READ SOMETHING ABOUT COPPER OR" COLLOIDAL COPPER".WOULD LIKE TO HEAR IF ANY BODY IN THE LIST HAVE EXPERIENCE WITH DIFFERENTS COLLOIDAL,(LIKE:GOLD,COPPER,IRON...) ANY IDEAS ANYONE ? ACERES... -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour --- End Message ---
Re: CS>Re: Dennis/Olive Leaf
i'm sold :-) i'll get some to use w/ GSE & cs. Dennis 51/50 24/7 --- Begin Message --- Hey Dennis -- one thing it claims to do is get rid of parasites -- which CS is not known to be very effective at. I'm about to find out results of my tests - so I don't know if it has been working or not -- but I sure had a huge surge of die off when I started on it. Katarina > << what can olive estract do that cs can't? > and at about 1/100 the price? > > Dennis >> -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour --- End Message ---
Re: CS lyme and fevers
sauna? Dennis 51/50 24/7 --- Begin Message --- Actuallyl, Tami, from what I've read, it's good that your body is able to run a fever. Lyme doesn't like the heat, so this will help kill it off too. Since I had Lyme, I have not run a fever in at least a year.Sometimes I WISH I would get the flu or something to crank up body temperature. I'd look at it (fevers) as a good sign. Sparrow >I've been CS 6 months and worked up to a cup a day for lyme. I spent 9 months >on IV rocephin and started Flagyl/Doxycycline 2 months ago. > >I had no fevers on IV but they started back in after stopping IV and going to >oral meds. I run a low grade fever every single eve from 5-8 pm and it feel >like sitting in a oven. It will then break then chills and exhausted. Docs >don't know why this is and don't seem to care. IT'S NOT NORMAL TO HAVE A >FEVER EVER NIGHT! > >That's about all I know. Is this my body fighting,a CS effect,toxins? > >Anyones's info would be of help- >Tami M -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour --- End Message ---
Re: CS>Collodial copper
using ALL CAPSis a newbie giveaway Dennis 51/50 24/7 --- Begin Message --- I've been using WaterOZ copper for yeast. 'sposed to be good for parasites too. It really does a number on the yeast, I"ll tell you that! Sparrow I READ SOMETHING ABOUT COPPER OR" COLLOIDAL COPPER".WOULD LIKE TO HEAR IF ANY BODY IN THE LIST HAVE EXPERIENCE WITH DIFFERENTS COLLOIDAL,(LIKE:GOLD,COPPER,IRON...) ANY IDEAS ANYONE ? ACERES... -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour --- End Message ---
RE: CS>TDS
my h2o is sludge Dennis 51/50 24/7 --- Begin Message --- The TDS meter measures conductivity of the water. It is calibrated with ---usually NaCl. Different solutes have different conductivity, but it is usually close enough. If you deal in mS you eliminate that variation. What I as pointing out is that it is unlikely that home or commercial RO water is pure enough i.e., low enough conductivity for CS generation. One local commercial RO water I measured was 4.+ PPM. Typically the rejection rates are about 95%. My incoming water is 240 PPM, so do the math. Same for your water. James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com -Original Message- From: D G [SMTP:djg5...@webtv.net] Sent: Monday, November 29, 1999 12:45 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:RE: CS>TDS << Message: RE: CS>TDS >> but i thought the the TDS meter was to test the purity of their system's water for cs production?! h Dennis 51/50 24/7 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour --- End Message ---
RE: CS>TDS
but i thought the the TDS meter was to test the purity of their system's water for cs production?! h Dennis 51/50 24/7 --- Begin Message --- Dennis, It is unlikely that a home RO system will provide pure enough water for CS. Look as the specs on % of TDS removal, and compare that with the TDS of the source water. James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com -Original Message- From: D G [SMTP:djg5...@webtv.net] Sent: Saturday, November 27, 1999 8:41 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Re: CS>TDS if the filter system works i'm gonna get it. even bottled water isn't that good here. they use reverse osmosis and it misses a few things i think. the filter system uses a one micron filter in the third and final stage. Dennis 51/50 24/7 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour --- End Message ---
Re: CS>alternatives
does it work on bursitis? i'll convert :-D Dennis 51/50 24/7 --- Begin Message --- Dennis, But then againas of yet I still have lyme..maybe with these other options that are available it will put this thing over the edge. Donna Earnest -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour --- End Message ---
Re: CS>olive
nobody said it was a kudos only list :-D Dennis 51/50 24/7 --- Begin Message --- At 06:09 AM 11/28/99 -0700, you wrote: >what can olive estract do that cs can't? >and at about 1/100 the price? > >Dennis >~~ Sorry to say cs didn't do it for either my rat Cookie or me...in terms of getting over our conditions Mea culpa...can I still be on the list? ~^^V^^~ -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour --- End Message ---
Re: CS>alternatives
then lets not forget grapefruit seed extract. another excellent "bug" doer in-er. but the prices of the alternatives to cs are in many cases prohibitive and nothing mentioned so far seems to exceed its doing in-ing properties. respectfully, Dennis 51/50 24/7 --- Begin Message --- In a message dated 11/28/99 8:10:09 AM Eastern Standard Time, djg5...@webtv.net writes: << what can olive estract do that cs can't? and at about 1/100 the price? Dennis >> Maybe nothing. But isn't it great to know that there are options, in addition to silver? I think so. I am fascinated to be learning of all the healing choices I have in my life that I was previously ignorant of. Diane -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour --- End Message ---
CS>leaf stuff
what?? can't anyone tell me something that olive leaf stuff does better than cs? and cheaper? Dennis 51/50 24/7 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Olive Leaf Extract
olive leaves grow in brands? and what does it do that cs doesn't? Dennis 51/50 24/7 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>olive schmolive
what can olive estract do that cs can't? and at about 1/100 the price? Dennis 51/50 24/7 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>TDS
if the filter system works i'm gonna get it. even bottled water isn't that good here. they use reverse osmosis and it misses a few things i think. the filter system uses a one micron filter in the third and final stage. Dennis 51/50 24/7 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>FEMALE LISTERS ONLY!!
my word, holmes...
heh heh
Dennis
51/50
24/7
--- Begin Message ---
Don't you mean, "...we don't know you from Eve?"
James Osbourne Holmes
a...@trail.com
-Original Message-
From: clh...@aol.com [SMTP:clh...@aol.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 1999 3:42 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject:Re: CS>FEMALE LISTERS ONLY!!
Hi,
You sent a file called ivy.gif, but AOL stinks in some ways, and this is one
of them. I don't have the file. Could you send to me?
In a message dated 11/17/99 7:06:57 PM, ke...@jefnet.com writes:
<< My Dear Christian,
This may be my personal problem, but I am very reluctant to discuss these
issues in mixed company. Please forgive me if I have offended you, but I am
a very "old-fashioned" girl and am very inhibited in this way. I realize
that you guys don't know me from Adam, but old habits die hard.
CK
- Original Message -
From: Christian von Wechmar
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 1999 1:40 AM
Subject: Re: CS>FEMALE LISTERS ONLY!!
Dear Carol and List,
Please bear in mind that most men on the list have a girlfriend, a wife, an
affair, or whatever. Speaking for myself, I am keen to learn. I am in contact
with many women who use my CS to resolve their "women's health problems". So
it really helps to know how CS can resolve "female" issues. Even if CS is not
involved, I still feel that we have to learn about each other's bodies. I
have not noticed that the men on the list are reluctant to discuss "men's
health problems". I live in beautiful South Africa, and trust me, Apartheid
does not work."FEMALE LISTERS ONLY!!" reminds me of the "WHITES ONLY" signs
we had for many years.
Sincerely,
Christian
- Original Message -
From: Carol Kehoe
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 1999 2:18 AM
Subject: CS>FEMALE LISTERS ONLY!!
Just thought I would try to get some female feedback on women's health
problems. Since this seems to be a mostly male list, maybe the girls out
there would like to converse privately. I have some questions and would
appreciate some feedback.
Carol
ke...@jefnet.com
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My Dear Christian,
This may be my personal problem,
but I am very reluctant to discuss these issues in mixed company.
Please
forgive me if I have offended you, but I am a very "old-fashioned" girl and
am
very inhibited in this way. I realize that you guys don't know me from
Adam, but old habits die hard.
CK
- Original Message -
From:
mailto:christ...@owf.co.za";>Christian von
Wechmar
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 1999 1:40
AM
Subject: Re: CS>FEMALE LISTERS
ONLY!!
Dear Carol and List,
Please bear in mind that most men on the
list have a girlfriend, a wife, an affair, or whatever. Speaking for
myself, I
am keen to learn. I am in contact with many women who use my CS to
resolve their "women's health problems". So it really helps to know how CS
can
resolve "female" issues. Even if CS is not involved, I still feel that we
have
to learn about each other's bodies. I have not noticed that the men on the
list are reluctant to discuss "men's health problems". I live in beautiful
South Africa, and trust me, Apartheid does not work."FEMALE LISTERS ONLY!!"
reminds me of the "WHITES ONLY" signs we had
for many years.
Sincerely,
Christian
- Original Message -
From:
mailto:ke...@jefnet.com";>Carol Kehoe
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 1999 2:18
AM
Subject: CS>FEMALE LISTERS
ONLY!!
Just thought I would try to get some female feedback on women's
health
problems. Since this seems to be a mostly male list, maybe the
girls
out there would like to converse privately. I have some questions
and
would appreciate some feedback.
Carol
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Re: CS>TDS
the guy i talked to (henry mosley) said 4-6 weeks. and the system should be here for the home trial around dec 1. Dennis 51/50 24/7 --- Begin Message --- Dennis Don't hold your breath. It's been 4 wks, no meter and no acknowledgement. wong In a message dated 11/27/1999 12:37:11 PM Pacific Standard Time, t...@silvergen.com writes: << > i'm getting a meter from the site that is offering free ones worth (they > say) $59.95. > i'll post the results when it gets here and i make a batch. > > Dennis >> -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour --- End Message ---
Re: CS>TDS
that's what i figured :-D and the water filtration system sounds like a real winner. arizona water tastes and smells like a swimming pool. e. Dennis 51/50 24/7 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>TDS
i'm getting a meter from the site that is offering free ones worth (they say) $59.95. i'll post the results when it gets here and i make a batch. Dennis 51/50 24/7 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>TDS
how accurate is a tds meter for measureing cs? Dennis 51/50 24/7 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>what does this mean?
what does corvus corax mean? in one of the RPG's corax is a were-raven. Dennis 51/50 24/7 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Re: Tinnitus (ringing in the ears)? >>
i've been cs and zapping for months. and my ears are still a four alarm siren. if there is any yeast in my body it must be related to superman. Dennis 51/50 24/7 --- Begin Message --- nope - tinnitus is caused by candida - systemic yeast - read the Yeast Connection and other books like that - direct correlation - when I have a yeast infection my ears itch like crazy. jeannine -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour --- End Message ---
Re: CS>free TDS meter
i tried using reverse osmosis water and white "stuff" fell off of the trodes like dust. can't wait to try this filter system out. Dennis 51/50 24/7 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>free TDS meter
i ordered a free TDS meter from them. they sell a water filtration system they claim will remove EVERYTHING except hydrogen and oxygen from the water. i'm getting one for a free trial to use for making cs. the rep said distillation somehow changes the structure of the water. uhhh? does it? Dennis 51/50 24/7 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Ptemarin
cancer is big business. it can cost upwards of $50K to die of cancer. why wouldn't they keep it going? Dennis 51/50 24/7 --- Begin Message --- I had a "Pan-hysterectomy" fourteen years ago. Everything was removed, and I was placed immediately on the strongest premarin they make. Ten years later, I lost a breast to breast cancer, and the doctors admitted that the premarin was probably responsible. Yet they continue to prescribe it. Did you know that premarin is the most heavily prescribed medication in the United States? Is it any wonder there's been such an increase in breast cancer? Liz -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour --- End Message ---
Re: CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V99 #766
please do!!! my darn ears keep me awake sometimes. Dennis 51/50 24/7 --- Begin Message --- In a message dated 11/20/99 4:33:07 PM Eastern Standard Time, fernwo...@aol.com writes: << or cures for Tinnitus (ringing in the ears)? >> I am fairly certain (I know this is not much help) that I read it is related to at least a vitamin/mineral deficiency. I wish I remembered which book I read that in, or what the details were. Sorry. ButI am always flipping through various "health" info, so if I come across it again, I'll post it. Diane -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour --- End Message ---
Re: CS>FEMALE LISTERS ONLY!!
if there isn't an herbalist on the list try a health food or herb specialty store. i don't know the #, but lhasa karnak herb co. is in berkeley , ca. and can probably help. Dennis 51/50 24/7 --- Begin Message --- - Original Message ----- From: D G To: Sent: Saturday, November 20, 1999 11:56 AM Subject: Re: CS>FEMALE LISTERS ONLY!! > I know about the Premarin.. I was taking it for about three months and it did help, but I was afraid of the other side effects that I learned about later. I think I would like to stay away from the common drugs prescribed by doctors.. My mom did not use any of those things and got through it. I think nature should take it's course. If there are natural things out there, I would be willing to give them a try. Thanks CK -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour --- End Message ---
Re: CS>FEMALE LISTERS ONLY!!
don't take "promarin". it's made from horse wee wee. there are herbs with estrogen in them to help with the flashes etc. someone on the list must know what they are. Dennis 51/50 24/7 --- Begin Message --- - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Saturday, November 20, 1999 2:06 AM Subject: Re: CS>FEMALE LISTERS ONLY!! > Thanks for allowing one man's view Well, here goes.. I am a female 49 yers old and going through my change. Not a pretty sight. I have been experiencing a discharge and an annoying odor. I have been taking CS for approsimately three weeks at varying strengths and amounts. I know that sounds funny, but I am new to this product and am still trying to figure all the stuff out. I just made my first batch of CS and am not sure what the ppm is, but if the directions were accurate, it is approximately 20ppm. I am now taking two doses of about 1oz every A.M. and P.M.Anyway, the discharge has disappeared and the odor is significantly decreased, but not gone. My doctor just told me that this would go away eventually when my body had cleansed all of the old menstrual matter. I, however felt that the problem was due to bacteria in all of the unshed matter and thought CS might do the trick. I think it has. Unfortunately CS does not do anything for the hot flashes and hormonal ups and downs. That, I fear will just take time. CK . > -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour --- End Message ---
Re: CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V99 #765
bioengineered soy without being informed? ewww. then what IS good? Dennis 51/50 24/7 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V99 #765
i don't understand why, if things lilke salt and soy are so funky, the japanese are so healthy. they eat tons of both and thrive. Dennis 51/50 24/7 --- Begin Message --- In a message dated 11/20/1999 5:59:50 AM Romance Standard Time, silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com writes: << For those interested in the history of oils and why they are bad for us, and the 'bill of goods' we have been sold: http://www.nexusmagazine.com/OilingAmerica.1.html Also soy online service is back on line, for info about the negative properties of soy products: http://www.soyonlineservice.co.nz/ particularly interesting is the affect of Phytates on mineral absorption, (thanks Harvey): http://www.soyonlineservice.co.nz/soy_toxins.htm >> -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour --- End Message ---
Re: CS>Free TDS meter
i just ordered mine. Dennis 51/50 24/7 --- Begin Message --- I just ran across this site that says that they will send you a free TDS (total dissolved solids) meter to check your water with before/after making CS. http://www.pureroyalty.com/freemeter.htm Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour --- End Message ---
Re: CS>BIG NEWS....Ionic Silver Complex May Replace Many Antibiotics
i think ionic siver wil be tha Next Big Thing just as soon as they can make it compicated to administer and as close to prohibitively expensive as possible. wid guess. Dennis 51/50 24/7 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Silver complexed with citrate and potassium ... Whaddya
the olay is a subspecies of the nauga, whose hide is used extensively in furniture coverings due to its resemblence to leather. Dennis 51/50 24/7 --- Begin Message --- Yes, emu oil is the bird oil.An Olay? Isn't that one of those mythical creatures? ;~) Sparrow >What is emu oil? Isn't an emu a bird, like an ostrich? > >I have some oil of Olay. What is an Olay? " -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour --- End Message ---
RE: CS>Silver complexed with citrate and potassium ... Whaddya
think "Dr. Demento," but more "Zen". Dennis 51/50 24/7 --- Begin Message --- Female ofay? James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [SMTP:mdud...@execonn.com] Sent: Thursday, November 18, 1999 8:16 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Re: CS>Silver complexed with citrate and potassium ... Whaddya Scharbach wrote: > Cindy, > > Another thought, emu oil is supposed to transport anything mixed with it > through > the skin. It would have to be some kind of emulsion, mixing it with the > silver, but > I bet it would transort through to the abscesses. What is emu oil? Isn't an emu a bird, like an ostrich? I have some oil of Olay. What is an Olay? Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour --- End Message ---
