Re: CS> Using Effectively
To get argyria you would need to either take gallons of high strength CS over many years (and sometimes not even then) or - like the 'blue' man, you would have to make silver salts by adding salt to the mixDee Sent from my iPad > On 26 Mar 2016, at 04:47, Joe wrote: > > Thank you, Phil, for this direct advice. I would go even further and say > that it's best to take CS on an empty stomach, and hold it on your mouth for > at least 30 seconds. > I'm new to making CS, and the amount of bad advice or perhaps even > purposeful misdirection on the internet seems overwhelming. I would think > that Big Pharma would love to have a bunch of people with argyria crop up to > support a ban on CS. With Big Pharma closing huge antibiotic R&D and > manufacturing centers, it's critical that people know how to make and use CS > safely. It would be great to see a basic protocol for safe CS use. > Joe Robinson > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 25, 2016, at 6:39 PM, Phil Morrison wrote: >> >> >> There is nothing that may be added to CS that >> will enhance its performance. Nothing. >> >> CS must be taken straight. Additions to CS will >> only compromise its performance. >> >> Any suggestions to the contrary are misdirection. >> >> Phil >> Chemist >> >> >> >> >> >>
Re: CS>Silver citrate production
The ones that spring to mind are Ode and John Popelish I would have thought - maybe Trem too.Dee Sent from my iPad > On 24 Mar 2016, at 20:26, Peter Deckers wrote: > > Anyone? I hope i didn't scare everyone away :P > > Op maandag 21 maart 2016 heeft Peter Deckers het > volgende geschreven: >> Hi everyone, >> I am a "long time listener and first time caller" here :-)) >> >> First of all i want to thank all the experts here helping out the less >> gifted in the field of chemistry, physics and electronics like me :-) >> >> I have been reading as much as i could here involving the subjects i am >> interested in, but i am afraid i still need some help if possible. >> >> I have been suffering over 10 years from multiple extremely resistant forms >> of skin problems like seborrheic dermatitis and athletes foot to name a few, >> and tried just about everything on the planet for it. >> One of the things i have been experimenting with lately is silver citrate. >> I have multiple silver generators at home, from very small like the silver >> pulser, to much larger like the silvergen, to a hvac system that also >> produce gold.(and claims to produce mainly colloids instead of ions) >> >> Anyway, i would really like to try and make the "original" silver dihydrate >> citrate myself, because buying it in the usa is already expensive, but then >> shipping it to my country would double the costs.. >> Unfortunately my lvac systems are current limited so the high ppm stuff >> won't work. (Although the sota silver pulser seems to continue working >> during extremely high ppm citrate solutions, the numbers dont add up to me. >> F.e. I started with 3140ppm distilled water/citrate solution, but when i >> used the silver pulser in that, the ppm didn't increase. >> Which if i read correctly here is because the silver combines with the >> citrate to form a new molecule that doesn't increase ppm because the silver >> isn't and extra ingredient because it combines. >> But it could also be because my ppm meter was broken (thereafter), but soon >> i will have my hanna PH/ppm/EC meter repaired so i hope that can help with >> analysing what is happening. >> >> Because the electrolysing of citrate solution seemed a bit challenging to me >> to know exactly what is happening, i also tried to just make ionic silver >> with my silvergen and just add citrate afterwards.(if that even works? >> Because if so why are there somany patents about the electrolysing citric >> acid method if it would be totally unneccesary?) >> >> Again if i calculated correctly, which i am pretty sure i didn't, for my >> 10ppm silver i would have to add approximately 3ppm citrate in theory, >> right? (So the new solution would have a 13ppm total) >> I experimented with all kind of different citrate solutions and although it >> did seem to help my skin more then silver alone, it wasn't enough.. >> So that is why i am trying to find the easiest and/or most reliable way to >> produce the full strenght silver citrate. >> >> Another route i was thinking of is to just buy silver citrate and dissolve >> that in citric acid. >> But again i am not sure if i understand the math. >> I read the following here: >> "Silvercitrate solubility is 0.28gr/liter = 280ppm (this works out to be >> 58ppm of silver)" >> I dont understand this because as far as i can find silver citrate has 63% >> silver content, so i would think 63% of 280ppm would mean 176ppm silver >> instead of 58ppm) >> >> But please ignore all my questions and mistakes if someone could just tell >> me the best way(s) to produce the exact same as the silverion2400 product, >> which is supposed to have a MIC against malassezia furfur of 0.25% >> Does that mean that silverion2400 can be diluted 400 times to still comply >> with the tested MIC? >> >> I apologize for my incoherent and perhaps confusing writing, but i wanted >> the experts here to see all the things that go on in my mind :-) and the >> (amature) level i am still on concerning this. >> >> Any help would be very much aprreciated! >> All the best, >> Peter
Re: CS>Predominantly Ionic Silver as a supplement. My opinion. Part 1/2.
Should have spelt it 'write' .and I also meant to say if you use the Wholefood type of vitamin c you don't need the high doses because it is more bioavailableDee Sent from my iPad > On 18 Mar 2016, at 09:43, Dee wrote: > > Hi Lena, just butting in on your post here. What type of vit c are you > taking? I too am doing this as I have slightly high blood pressure. > According to Linus Pauling, it doesn't matter if you just use ascorbic acid, > but then you need massive amounts because it just drains out of the body and > only has antioxidant properties. To get the full vitamin c benefits ie, to > strengthen the vascular walls, you need all the other components which make > up vitamin c ie. Bioflavonoids etc, etc. Dr Marc Sircus and Mercola right > about this quite a lotDee > > Sent from my iPad > >> On 18 Mar 2016, at 00:03, Lena Guyot wrote: >> >> Hi Neville, >> >> I really like your style and attitude! So glad you are bouncing back and >> showing how it can be done. >> On the subject of cholesterol, I've read that plaque in arteries is the >> body's own response to weakened areas in artery walls, sort of like making >> patches on the inner tubes in bike tires. >> I've also read that larger amounts of Vitamin C increase the health and tone >> of artery walls, so the body isn't driven to this desperate measure. Can't >> prove if it's true, but I'm counting on it myself, taking 13g of Vitamin C a >> day (along with 13 g of sea salt) using the lymestrategies protocol that has >> helped so many Lymies. It certainly seems to have given me my life back >> after 50 years of chronic Lyme. My motto is: 'the proof of the pudding is in >> the eating'. Also, 'Leave no stone unturned' and, 'listen to your body'. >> >> Be well, >> Léna >> >>> On Mar 17, 2016, at 7:42 AM, Neville wrote: >>> >>> People may have and believe a Faith, I don’t, the only thing I believe and >>> have Faith in, is me. >>> >>> I have been ingesting my own plain old silver preparation every morning for >>> around 13 years now. >>> >>> Some of you would know I had a Stroke last September...blah blah blah. I >>> bounced back remarkably quick, about 3 days and I was as pretty much as >>> bright as a button, just trouble talking, writing etc etc. I believe it’s >>> called Aphasia? >>> >>> An option was to remove part of my skull to drain the blood, but due to the >>> proximity to my ear, it was considered risky and they instead rather >>> watched and took readings of my BP VERY often for a while, even the knife >>> (or is it the saw ) was still an option for up to 6 weeks after >>> apparently. >>> >>> The Speech Therapist in the hospital remarked she was amazed at how quick I >>> recovered my speech in a few days, she said she had never seen that rapid >>> recovery from a Stroke..."victim?" Although some brain cells have gone >>> walkabout for near on 5 months now, and I don’t think they are coming back >>> . >>> >>> I'm 65, been a smoker for near on 50 years (and still do) blah blah blah, >>> and my cholesterol is fine, my arteries from my heart and into my brain (or >>> any other blood pathway after shooting me up with some "contrast” stuff) >>> and I could drive a truck through them. I have my medical reports and my >>> MRI pictures regarding nil partial blockages or anything else, and all >>> internal organs from Scans showing normal with no shadows or cancer or blah >>> blah blah. The brain shadow (the bleed) is slowly reducing and >>> dissipating. Oh, I should add another Professional remarked how clean my >>> blood was regarding anti-gens, which I believe is pathogens or bugs in the >>> blood, but I knew that would be the case anyway via Bob Beck information >>> many years ago. >>> >>> I asked a question on this List several years ago if *OUR* preparation >>> could possibly keep blood pathways clean (cholesterol?), no answer was >>> forthcoming. So since my episode and subsequent MRI's and medical reports >>> show, now I *must* assume our preparation indeed probably kept my blood >>> pathways clear. I am certainly no health nut, I don’t eat any fancy diet, >>> nor am I built like a racing greyhound, hence I am no healthier than the >>> next person on this planet, and I don’t accept any genetic theory either. >>> As Victor said, there is just so much *not* yet understood by *anyone*? >>> >>> As a supplement, I have to concede and/or assume *our* product does clean >>> the blood pathways, cholesterol is perfectly fine, and all internal organs >>> and plumbing are all good, and no cancers or any other abnormalities in my >>> blood blah blah and my blood is clean. To be continued… >>
Re: CS>Testing email.
I got this Ron, and all your other postsDee Sent from my iPad > On 18 Mar 2016, at 18:23, Ron wrote: > > I don't seem to be able to get anything to post and nothing has gone into the > archives in a couple of days. > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org > > Unsubscribe: > <mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe> > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html > > Off-Topic discussions: <mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com> > List Owner: Mike Devour <mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com> > >
Re: CS>Chlamydia Pneumoniae Bacteria
Hope it all goes well for himDee Sent from my iPad > On 19 Mar 2016, at 22:10, di...@icloud.com wrote: > > Hello > > Currently I believe my boyfriend has Chlamydia Pneumoniae in his lungs, he > has had asthma all his life ( 54 years old ), but recently had an acute > asthma attack back in November 2015 leading him to ICU for 3 days. He also > got diagnosed with Mycoplasma unfortunately. > > Anyhow, we researched it and read that Azithromycin once a week for several > months can kill the Chlamydia Pheumoniae bacteria which is what is really > causing the asthma... > > We tried the Azithromycin for 3 weeks straight and it was definitely working, > but we've also used Colloidal Silver Nebulized for our dogs' bronchitis > episodes as well as our own so decided to switch to Nebulized Colloidal > Silver along with a high dose of Olive Leaf Extract which our Osteopath > recommended. So far, the combination Silver and Olive Leaf Extract Capsules > is working to keep his Asthma hardly noticiceable. > > Will keep you posted. He nebulized Colloidal Silver at least twice a day for > 10-15 minutes, and takes 500mg Olive Leaf Extract 3 times a day... Also we > make our own Liposomal Vitamin C and he takes it 1gm 4 times per day. > > His doctor also prescribed a Paleo Diet, no grains no legumes, obviously no > sugar. > > Here is some info for those of you that have asthma and are looking into > alternative treatments besides steroid inhalers... But like I said, instead > of Azithromycin we're using Colloidal Silver now. > > http://oshinsky.org/asthma.htm > > GCM > > >> On Mar 19, 2016, at 10:59 AM, Scotty wrote: >> >> I personally have not had this problem but did have systemic MRSA which >> colloidal silver taken orally and through nebulizing healed me. I found a >> related article that may be of some help: >> >> http://altered-states.net/barry/newsletter384/ >> >> >> Scott Young >> >> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTE: The information transmitted, including attachments, is >> intended only for the person(s) or entity to which it is addressed and may >> contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, >> dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this >> information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is >> prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and >> destroy any copies of this information. >> >> >> From: pwold >> To: silver-list@eskimo.com >> Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 3:51 PM >> Subject: CS>Chlamydia Pneumoniae Bacteria >> >> Wondering if anyone has some comments on how to cure or get rid of this bug >> d( Chlamydia Pneumoniae Bacteria) . >> Will orally and nebulizing silver help or eliminate this bug. Also want to >> know who has experience this bug and how >> they got rid of it. >
CS>Email change
Hi all, does anyone know how to change my email address on Eskimo please? Thanks...Dee Sent from my iPad -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: <mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe> Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: <mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com> List Owner: Mike Devour <mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com>
Re: CS>Predominantly Ionic Silver as a supplement. My opinion. Part 1/2.
I don't know about the sunflower lecithin as it comes under polyunsaturated oil I believe and not to be recommended in high doses. Also, the jury is still out on liposomal vit c - I prefer the wholefood type of vitamin c as it is not just ascorbic acid which is an antioxidant only. Oxidative damage to vascular walls, internal organs, skin etc., is caused by oxidation of polyunsaturated oils and lack of vitamin c and vitamin k. (Ray Peat) and lack of saturated fat....Dee Sent from my iPad > On 18 Mar 2016, at 13:34, Olushola Camara wrote: > > I got this from a poster on a site: > They say that coronary heart disease is caused by a localized scurvy in the > damaged blood vessels. Vitamin C is essential to the health of all blood > vessels. When the intracellar "glue" of your arteries become damaged due to > lack of Vit C, many times from an infection, the first step is > arteriosclerosis. Vitamin C deficiency causes an ungelling of the > glycoproteins in the basement membrane of the blood vessels. A focal vitamin > C deficiency in the arterial wall degenerates the basement membrane allowing > the abnormal deposition of solutes such as calcium, cholesterol, and fats > because these are substitutes to Vit C. Subsequently there is a proliferation > of macrophages in the basement membrane which continues as long the abnormal > deposition of these solutes continues. And, until vitamin C levels in the > arteries normalize, abnormal deposits will continue to appear and macrophages > will continue to proliferate and engulf the solutes (cholesterol), there by > continuing the relentless progression of arteriosclerosis. > If you fail to build up your tissues first with vitamin C, Proline and > Lysine, removing the plaques with Lethicin will very likely induce a > hemorrhage and > you will pass away rather quickly.” > > For 6 Months > > 2G LIPOSOMAL SODIUM ASCORBATE > > 2G L-Proline > > 2G L-Lysine > > For 2 Weeks > > High dosage of Sunflower Lecithin > > BLOCK BUSTER ALL CLEAR > > Olushola
Re: CS>Supplement Part 2. Conclusion.
Glad you did so well Neville...Dee Sent from my iPad > On 17 Mar 2016, at 11:45, Neville wrote: > > I believe my daily silver Predominantly Ionic supplement prevented any > further serious complications, and furthermore I believe it enhanced my > chances of survival with no having further complications. I will never stop > ingesting my preparation every morning until hell freezes over, and I'll be > long dead before that happens. > > > Life is a risk, and the only way to prove or find out something is to take > the risk, and that's what I have been doing with my daily regimen. It could > all be anecdotal, but if anyone else can disprove any of this, then go for > it? I binned my last tablet after another MRI on Feb 9th for 'supposedly' > blood pressure and my BP has not changed, 150-160, and I guess it will stay > that way now? What it was before it shot up to 220 I have no idea, I’ve > never had a Doctor? I guess I'll find out in the passing of time? They > fixed my BP in 48 hours and I just walked around picking my nose for another > 8 days, I was and am fine, accept this damned Aphasia thing . > > > My episode must have been a simply glitch in the system somehow? The Medical > fraternity always say it could be from smoking, a bump on the head, alcohol, > coffee, diet, exercise, stress, even if I’ve had a flu shot - h, strange > they would ask me that, but NO, down to picking your nose or scratching your > bum blah blah blah. Well, for each and every human of our species on this > planet will have at least *one* of those crap excuses thrown at them - as > were thrown at me - from the Establishment. The truth is, they have no idea > of why people get hit with a Stroke out of the blue, so they should NOT point > the finger at any of their lame 'excuses'? You will never get a > questionnaire - as I did - asking about air pollution, or the toxins we > consume in every mouthful of foodstuffs we shove in our mouths and many other > ways which would or could affect our health today! The Establishment will > *always* point their finger at YOU as causing some reason for doing it to > *yourself*, they will never point that finger at the system! > > > OK, considerable rant over . It seems I dodged a bullet, but it missed > its mark, maybe another bullet might come my way one day? So be it, life is > a risk! Only dead fish go with the flow. > > > Until, or unless, someone else gets a Stroke and has been ingesting a small > amount every morning as I have done, with MRI’s and Medical reports, this > will only ever be anecdotal. Again, so be it. > > > N.
Re: CS>Predominantly Ionic Silver as a supplement. My opinion. Part 1/2.
Hi Lena, just butting in on your post here. What type of vit c are you taking? I too am doing this as I have slightly high blood pressure. According to Linus Pauling, it doesn't matter if you just use ascorbic acid, but then you need massive amounts because it just drains out of the body and only has antioxidant properties. To get the full vitamin c benefits ie, to strengthen the vascular walls, you need all the other components which make up vitamin c ie. Bioflavonoids etc, etc. Dr Marc Sircus and Mercola right about this quite a lot....Dee Sent from my iPad > On 18 Mar 2016, at 00:03, Lena Guyot wrote: > > Hi Neville, > > I really like your style and attitude! So glad you are bouncing back and > showing how it can be done. > On the subject of cholesterol, I've read that plaque in arteries is the > body's own response to weakened areas in artery walls, sort of like making > patches on the inner tubes in bike tires. > I've also read that larger amounts of Vitamin C increase the health and tone > of artery walls, so the body isn't driven to this desperate measure. Can't > prove if it's true, but I'm counting on it myself, taking 13g of Vitamin C a > day (along with 13 g of sea salt) using the lymestrategies protocol that has > helped so many Lymies. It certainly seems to have given me my life back after > 50 years of chronic Lyme. My motto is: 'the proof of the pudding is in the > eating'. Also, 'Leave no stone unturned' and, 'listen to your body'. > > Be well, > Léna > >> On Mar 17, 2016, at 7:42 AM, Neville wrote: >> >> People may have and believe a Faith, I don’t, the only thing I believe and >> have Faith in, is me. >> >> I have been ingesting my own plain old silver preparation every morning for >> around 13 years now. >> >> Some of you would know I had a Stroke last September...blah blah blah. I >> bounced back remarkably quick, about 3 days and I was as pretty much as >> bright as a button, just trouble talking, writing etc etc. I believe it’s >> called Aphasia? >> >> An option was to remove part of my skull to drain the blood, but due to the >> proximity to my ear, it was considered risky and they instead rather watched >> and took readings of my BP VERY often for a while, even the knife (or is it >> the saw ) was still an option for up to 6 weeks after apparently. >> >> The Speech Therapist in the hospital remarked she was amazed at how quick I >> recovered my speech in a few days, she said she had never seen that rapid >> recovery from a Stroke..."victim?" Although some brain cells have gone >> walkabout for near on 5 months now, and I don’t think they are coming back >> . >> >> I'm 65, been a smoker for near on 50 years (and still do) blah blah blah, >> and my cholesterol is fine, my arteries from my heart and into my brain (or >> any other blood pathway after shooting me up with some "contrast” stuff) and >> I could drive a truck through them. I have my medical reports and my MRI >> pictures regarding nil partial blockages or anything else, and all internal >> organs from Scans showing normal with no shadows or cancer or blah blah >> blah. The brain shadow (the bleed) is slowly reducing and dissipating. Oh, >> I should add another Professional remarked how clean my blood was regarding >> anti-gens, which I believe is pathogens or bugs in the blood, but I knew >> that would be the case anyway via Bob Beck information many years ago. >> >> I asked a question on this List several years ago if *OUR* preparation could >> possibly keep blood pathways clean (cholesterol?), no answer was >> forthcoming. So since my episode and subsequent MRI's and medical reports >> show, now I *must* assume our preparation indeed probably kept my blood >> pathways clear. I am certainly no health nut, I don’t eat any fancy diet, >> nor am I built like a racing greyhound, hence I am no healthier than the >> next person on this planet, and I don’t accept any genetic theory either. >> As Victor said, there is just so much *not* yet understood by *anyone*? >> >> As a supplement, I have to concede and/or assume *our* product does clean >> the blood pathways, cholesterol is perfectly fine, and all internal organs >> and plumbing are all good, and no cancers or any other abnormalities in my >> blood blah blah and my blood is clean. To be continued… >> >> >
Re: CS>Lipo C - Question
I used a little sonic cleaner for mine but was never sure it worked right. Since then, I have read many respected sources about the dangers of polyunsaturated fats so stopped making it. I presume that lecithin of either variety comes into that category, so I've now just gone to Wholefood vitamin C....Dee Sent from my iPad > On 13 Mar 2016, at 20:27, Max wrote: > > I think it was Brooks Bradley who spearheaded the homemade lipo C. I believe > he had the microscope to show home made was about equal quality to > commercial. Brooks seems high integrity.Of course, thats a first pass > judgementhome made may be worse, equal or even better than commercial > lipo. What we dont know is if simple micelles are as good or better than > lipo, or even if coconut oil and C is as good. The tests arent in. > Commercial ultrasonication can create a whole new chemistry with its powerful > machines. This chemistry would have to proven superior for whatever reason. > Im talking mainly about the chemistry of ultra sonic cavitation bubbles > which can reach 5000 deg and huge pressures. Remember that one is always > relying on and being swayed by profit minded commercial hype > > Start simple, say blending in a blender, then invest in a course of > commercially made lipo and see if you can feel a difference. In my mind, > getting high quality lecithin is more important than lipo size and quantity, > since 99% of it is digested at the gut brush border, one way or the other > >> On 3/13/2016 5:23 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: >> apparently the home-made item is NOT the same as the one made by Live-On >> labs, whose scientists have tested it. I can’t see why they would lie >> because they would be found out easily I would have thought. Also >> apparently, Dr Mercola (who I respect) makes a liposome vitamin C which is >> again, NOT liposomal at all. dee >> >>> On 10 Mar 2016, at 17:24, Ron wrote: >>> >>> Sounds right to me. If he can be so wrong about IV C then his credibility >>> is pretty much shot. >>> Even Dr. Mercola is on the the bandwagon with Liposomal D. But then, >>> although Mercola does have a lot of good info, he seems to be primarily >>> engaged in marketing. >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSCv5_41j88 >>> Mercola shows in detail how he says it works but offers no study to back it >>> up. >>> >>>> On 3/10/2016 9:10 AM, Max wrote: >>>> I like Levy.that said, if you look at the studies, only perhaps 1% of >>>> liposomes get through intact. The ones that do are quickly attacked by >>>> the immune system. Liposomes delivering their contents to cells by direct >>>> 'melding' is a myth.A 5x or greater absorption effeciency is also a >>>> myth. So we are left with the anecdotal evidence that liposome C works >>>> wonders. Note that Levy DOES in fact promote the Livon product. My >>>> feeling is that adding lecithin to vitamin C in a blender allows >>>> essentially the same digestion and biological effect. Ive tried both and >>>> can tell no difference. For me, the main thing is getting the really >>>> good lecithen. I cant stand the regular soy stuff. There is also >>>> evidence it isnt healthy. Organic sunflower lecithin seems to be the >>>> ticket. The secret to absorbing a lot of Vit C is taking it at short >>>> intervals.Vit C loading of the body by IV is many, many times greater >>>> than by liposome C.This is perhaps Levy's most egregious error >>>> >>>>> On 3/10/2016 8:14 AM, Ron wrote: >>>>> Thank you for mentioning Liposomal. I have never heard of it before. >>>>> >>>>> Exposing the truth about liposomal nutrients [FAVORABLE] >>>>> http://www.peakenergy.com/articles/nh20140411/Exposing-the-truth-about-liposomal-nutrients/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On 3/8/2016 10:48 PM, mk wrote: >>>>>> Is there a bare minimum ultrasonic unit I can get on ebay that will do >>>>>> the job other than Freight Harbor? They're basically all made in China - >>>>>> so am looking at those right now. >>>>>> >>>>>> And - why would lipo vitamin c be the better option for someone with >>>>>> kidney/liver issues? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks - Joy >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >>>>>> www.avast.com >>>>>> >>>>>> -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. >>>>>> Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: Archives: >>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html >>>>>> Off-Topic discussions: List Owner: Mike Devour > >
Re: CS>Lipo C - Question
Thinking about it, homemade covers a very broad spectrum ie it depends WHO made it and how they made it I suppose. I mean, it is not going to be as uniform as that made in LiveOns own facility. I do know that Mercola s has been independently tested and proved to be not liposomal which someone on his website admitted. He was challenged to explain but never did. Trouble is, I can't remember who instigated it but it was LiveOn who tested it....Dee Sent from my iPad > On 13 Mar 2016, at 20:27, Max wrote: > > I think it was Brooks Bradley who spearheaded the homemade lipo C. I believe > he had the microscope to show home made was about equal quality to > commercial. Brooks seems high integrity.Of course, thats a first pass > judgementhome made may be worse, equal or even better than commercial > lipo. What we dont know is if simple micelles are as good or better than > lipo, or even if coconut oil and C is as good. The tests arent in. > Commercial ultrasonication can create a whole new chemistry with its powerful > machines. This chemistry would have to proven superior for whatever reason. > Im talking mainly about the chemistry of ultra sonic cavitation bubbles > which can reach 5000 deg and huge pressures. Remember that one is always > relying on and being swayed by profit minded commercial hype > > Start simple, say blending in a blender, then invest in a course of > commercially made lipo and see if you can feel a difference. In my mind, > getting high quality lecithin is more important than lipo size and quantity, > since 99% of it is digested at the gut brush border, one way or the other > >> On 3/13/2016 5:23 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: >> apparently the home-made item is NOT the same as the one made by Live-On >> labs, whose scientists have tested it. I can’t see why they would lie >> because they would be found out easily I would have thought. Also >> apparently, Dr Mercola (who I respect) makes a liposome vitamin C which is >> again, NOT liposomal at all. dee >> >>> On 10 Mar 2016, at 17:24, Ron wrote: >>> >>> Sounds right to me. If he can be so wrong about IV C then his credibility >>> is pretty much shot. >>> Even Dr. Mercola is on the the bandwagon with Liposomal D. But then, >>> although Mercola does have a lot of good info, he seems to be primarily >>> engaged in marketing. >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSCv5_41j88 >>> Mercola shows in detail how he says it works but offers no study to back it >>> up. >>> >>>> On 3/10/2016 9:10 AM, Max wrote: >>>> I like Levy.that said, if you look at the studies, only perhaps 1% of >>>> liposomes get through intact. The ones that do are quickly attacked by >>>> the immune system. Liposomes delivering their contents to cells by direct >>>> 'melding' is a myth.A 5x or greater absorption effeciency is also a >>>> myth. So we are left with the anecdotal evidence that liposome C works >>>> wonders. Note that Levy DOES in fact promote the Livon product. My >>>> feeling is that adding lecithin to vitamin C in a blender allows >>>> essentially the same digestion and biological effect. Ive tried both and >>>> can tell no difference. For me, the main thing is getting the really >>>> good lecithen. I cant stand the regular soy stuff. There is also >>>> evidence it isnt healthy. Organic sunflower lecithin seems to be the >>>> ticket. The secret to absorbing a lot of Vit C is taking it at short >>>> intervals.Vit C loading of the body by IV is many, many times greater >>>> than by liposome C.This is perhaps Levy's most egregious error >>>> >>>>> On 3/10/2016 8:14 AM, Ron wrote: >>>>> Thank you for mentioning Liposomal. I have never heard of it before. >>>>> >>>>> Exposing the truth about liposomal nutrients [FAVORABLE] >>>>> http://www.peakenergy.com/articles/nh20140411/Exposing-the-truth-about-liposomal-nutrients/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On 3/8/2016 10:48 PM, mk wrote: >>>>>> Is there a bare minimum ultrasonic unit I can get on ebay that will do >>>>>> the job other than Freight Harbor? They're basically all made in China - >>>>>> so am looking at those right now. >>>>>> >>>>>> And - why would lipo vitamin c be the better option for someone with >>>>>> kidney/liver issues? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks - Joy >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >>>>>> www.avast.com >>>>>> >>>>>> -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. >>>>>> Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: Archives: >>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html >>>>>> Off-Topic discussions: List Owner: Mike Devour > >
Re: CS>Good Brand Of Colloidal Silver
I thought adding salt to CS made the particles really big, which in turn, could cause argyria. See 'Blue Man'..Dee Sent from my iPad > On 11 Mar 2016, at 22:25, Jerry Durand wrote: > > Correct. There's always some particulate silver in the CS so really it's > both. Personally, I put in a tiny bit of salt as I can't really take water > without the salt. > > If I haven't used it in a while, it may start some coughing. The first time > I tried it I think I coughed up an old shoe, but I felt LOTS better the next > day and could now breath again. > >> On 03/11/2016 02:20 PM, pwold wrote: >> Do you nebulized the CS ...so it’s ionic silver you are using with the >> silver puppy right? They are so many out there. >> I’m looking at SilverEdge right now debating which to buy. > > -- > Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc. www.interstellar.com > tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886 >
Re: CS>nebulizer freuency
I use Himalayan.Dee Sent from my iPad On 5 Mar 2016, at 02:49, Evan Jones wrote: >> According to Ray Peat, salt does not put up blood pressure - this is yet >> another dangerous myth perpetuated by the medical community.Dee > > There could be something in the anti-caking chemicals added to table > salt which have not-yet understood negative health effects. So plain > old sea salt is the way to go. Ray Peat rather likes salt. > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org > > Unsubscribe: > <mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe> > Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html > > Off-Topic discussions: <mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com> > List Owner: Mike Devour <mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com> > >
Re: CS>nebulizer freuency
According to Ray Peat, salt does not put up blood pressure - this is yet another dangerous myth perpetuated by the medical community.Dee Sent from my iPad > On 22 Feb 2016, at 15:18, Lena wrote: > > My blood pressure is normal. People confuse the negative effects of table > salt (and they are negative) with the synergistic benefit of sea salt and C, > which has proven to be one of the most effective strategies to fight chronic > Lyme disease. If you know anyone with Lyme, have them check out > lymestrategies, a yahoo health group. > Be well, > Lena > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Feb 21, 2016, at 9:28 PM, moxaman wrote: >> >> Wow. That is an awful lot of salt even it it’s got trace minerals with it. >> Do you keep track of your blood pressure? >> >> From: Lena Guyot >> Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2016 5:34 PM >> To: silver-list@eskimo.com >> Subject: Re: CS>nebulizer freuency >> >> I don't add salt, but being a Lymie, taking 13g of Himalayan salt and vit. C >> per day, my body is pretty fortified with it. >> Be well, >> Léna >>> On Feb 21, 2016, at 4:42 PM, Jerry Durand wrote: >>> >>> Works for me. Silver Puppy CS + a little salt (about 1/4 teaspoon per >>> cup). I'm using one of the ultrasonic fogger type nebulizers. >>> >>> I find if I don't add the salt it bothers my sinus, especially so with the >>> nettie pot. I MUST use salt in that. >>> >>>> On 02/21/2016 01:20 PM, pwold wrote: >>>> Just wondering if others had success in nebulizing silver for lung >>>> infections.. >>>> would like to know what type or brand they are using...for my own research. >>>> Im getting a blood test done ..if I have a bacteria in my lung.my >>>> mucus is always yellowish. >>>> Thanks for any info I would gather. >>> >>> -- >>> Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc. www.interstellar.com >>> tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886 >>> >> >>
Re: CS>Sugar and colloidal silver
One to save Jean.dee Sent from my iPad > On 22 Feb 2016, at 02:59, Jean Baugh wrote: > > Hi Dee, > > I had a dog with a deep and severe pressure sore that nothing helped, > until I used a nearly saturated sugar solution in colloidal silver to > spray on the wound and then it began to heal. It is said sugar draws > infection out and this combination worked nothing short of a miracle. > > Jean > > > >> Funny that because in the old days they used to use sugar to fight >> infections ie they used to put it in wounds etc and according to Ray >> Peat, they used fructose to combat diabetes which was then called a >> wasting disease.Dee > > > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org > > Unsubscribe: > <mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe> > Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html > > Off-Topic discussions: <mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com> > List Owner: Mike Devour <mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com> > >
CS>Bicarbonate of soda - nebuliser
Dr Mark Sircus advocates using bicarb in a nebuliser and/or iodine for chronic infection.dee Sent from my iPad -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: <mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe> Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: <mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com> List Owner: Mike Devour <mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com>
Re: CS>Agents which break up biofilms
Thank you very much for this Evan, I was the one who asked about ordinary sugar being used, and this is the answer - and more. Many thanks.dee Sent from my iPad > On 22 Feb 2016, at 03:49, Evan Jones wrote: > > This information could be useful to anybody suffering an infection > that comes from an entrenched biofilm. Commons ones include > bronchitis, tooth decay, prostate problems, urinary tract infections. > > Biofilms exist everywhere in our bodies and in our environment. e.g. > Water containers such as pipes and tanks are natural hosts for slimy > biofilms; typically made from a fermenting gram negative bacteria. I > should try using various substances lying around the house to see > what controls the slimy biofilm in my water storage dispensor e.g. > xylitol, d ribose, sea salt, iodine, chlorine, NAC, soap, sodium > bicarb, aspirin. Biofilms are a growing problem in engine fuel > systems, due to the recent trend of adding 6 - 10% biofuels to > gasoline and diesel fuels. > > XYLITOL VS SUGAR. > Because xylitol looks and tastes like plain white sugar , somebody > asked why not simply use sugar to control biofilms? The reason is > that while most sugars contain 6 carbon molecules, xylitol contains > only 5, a characteristic which affect the ability of microbes to form > biofilms. D mannose and D ribose also have 5 OH chains . D mannose is > the sugar in cranberries which is useful in breaking up biofilms in > urinary tracts. > > CS to break up biofilms. > I wrote earlier that mixing CS with xylitol may not be a good idea , > as the CS may attack the strep mutans too soon. (This is said to be > the case of mixing salt and xylitol to control tooth decay - we want > to the strep mutans to eat the xylitol, not eweaken it.) > > Upon further reading, it seems that CS (Colloidal Silver) also > controls infections by breaking up biofilms. > e.g.: > "Silver is an important antimicrobial agent used as a coating to > reduce bacterial adhesion to biomaterials and prevent infections. > Silver ions increase bacterial membrane permeability, induce > de-energization of cells, leakage of cellular content, and disruption > DNA replication. [Marambio-Jones & Hoek, 2010] Many studies support an > anti-biofilm component of silver. However, a recent study suggests > that silver may indirectly promote bacterial adhesion [Carvalho et > al., 2013]" > http://thescienceofnutrition.me/2015/03/13/natural-anti-biofilm-agents/ > > I don't know whether mixing CS with xylitol is a good idea or not. > > This article, BTW, contains a useful list of natural biofilm agents, > which includes : > - Proteolytic enzymes like serrapeptase > - Bacteriophages (which are viruses that produce a number of enzymes) > - Quorum-Sensing Inhibitors > - Ajoene, found in crushed garlic, inhibits production of rhamnolipid, > which shields biofilms from white blood cells > - Resveratrol demonstrates antimicrobial properties on periodontal pathogens > - Cranberry keeps bacteria from sticking to surfaces > - Chlorogenic acids (CGA) come largely from coffee > - Boswellic acids, the pentacyclic triterpenes, produced in plants > belonging to the genus Boswellia, disrupt preexisting biofilms. > - Aspirin and many other naturally-occurring salicylates can inhibit > the macromolecules that make up the biofilm matrix > - Formic, capric, and lauric acids (e.g. coconut oil) are broadly > inhibitory for bacteria. Undecylenic acid is another medium chain > fatty acid known for its anti-biofilm ability, including the > disruption of troubling biofilms of Candida albicans > - Iron promotes EPS production and biofilm formation in many > pathogenic, biofilm-producing bacteria. By tying up iron, lactoferrin > could conceivably show anti-biofilm activity. > - Bismuth appears to work largely by inhibiting bacterial EPS > [Domenico et al., 1991, 1992] via competitive interference with iron > metabolism. > - N-acetyl-L-cysteine (NAC), at low milligram levels, was found to > decrease biofilm formation by a variety of bacteria > - sodium bicarbonate has an antibiofilm activity > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org > > Unsubscribe: > <mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe> > Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html > > Off-Topic discussions: <mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com> > List Owner: Mike Devour <mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com> > >
Re: CS>nebulizer freuency
Wouldn't ordinary sugar do the same job? dee Sent from my iPad > On 21 Feb 2016, at 08:17, Evan Jones wrote: > > Lyn wrote : > > wrote: > > That’s fantastic news, Evan. Please tell me how much xylitol in how much > water? Thanks, Lynn > > > Put about 1tsp (300grams) xylitol into a 100ml nasal spray bottle, add > water. Let the xylitol crystals fully dissolve before inhaling. > > I still have minor daily phlegm, so the streptococcus pneumonia may be > active? Dental plaque consists of streptococcus mutans biofilm. Could the > phlegm be a biofilm? I don't know. > >> On 21 Feb, 2016 9:38 am, "Evan Jones" wrote: >> I have had chronic lung infections since childhood, morning phegm , >> often coughing, easily get bronchitis , sometimes pneumonae. I tried >> inhaling CS. Finally found that xylitol water in a nasal spray and >> inhaled into the lungs 5 x day has it beat. Many lung infections have >> a biofilm made of streptococci pneumonae, a bacteria which loves the >> sugar in xylitol. When the strep consumes the xylitol sugar, the strep >> bug loses it's ability to form the biofilm. (Same happens to tooth >> decay forming strep mutans when fed xylitol). >> >> Therefore, I wouldn't take anything that attacks bacteria when using >> xylitol, such as zithromycin, salt or CS. >> >> I now inhale xylitol water 2 x day as a preventive.
Re: CS>nebulizer freuency
Funny that because in the old days they used to use sugar to fight infections ie they used to put it in wounds etc and according to Ray Peat, they used fructose to combat diabetes which was then called a wasting disease.Dee Sent from my iPad > On 21 Feb 2016, at 01:38, Evan Jones wrote: > > I have had chronic lung infections since childhood, morning phegm , > often coughing, easily get bronchitis , sometimes pneumonae. I tried > inhaling CS. Finally found that xylitol water in a nasal spray and > inhaled into the lungs 5 x day has it beat. Many lung infections have > a biofilm made of streptococci pneumonae, a bacteria which loves the > sugar in xylitol. When the strep consumes the xylitol sugar, the strep > bug loses it's ability to form the biofilm. (Same happens to tooth > decay forming strep mutans when fed xylitol). > > Therefore, I wouldn't take anything that attacks bacteria when using > xylitol, such as zithromycin, salt or CS. > > I now inhale xylitol water 2 x day as a preventive. > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org > > Unsubscribe: > <mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe> > Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html > > Off-Topic discussions: <mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com> > List Owner: Mike Devour <mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com> > >
Re: CS>nebulizer frequency
You can buy a salt pipe too to use along with the silver nebuliserI do.Dee Sent from my iPad > On 20 Feb 2016, at 15:59, Gmail wrote: > > Aged garlic extract cured me. > > “The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people’s > money.” Margaret Thatcher > > > > >> On Feb 20, 2016, at 10:27 AM, Kathy Tankersley >> wrote: >> >> Gary, I tried to email privately, but couldn't get it right. Anyway, I saw >> your letter, I wnated to share with you: I've haqd asthma, respiroty, etc >> most of my life (I'm 77 now). I've used various things to find what works >> for me. Silver, magnets, accupuncture, reflexology, etc. About 3 years >> ago, I started doing essential oils, long story short.I've been almost >> free of asthma, respiritory infections, etc, (no I do not sell essential >> oils). I got off my symbicort inhaler, I still use my rescue inhaler some. >> In years gone by I have been in the hospital numerous times, predisons >> became a common drug for me along with alot antibotics. Praise God, I >> have't used predisone for 2 years now. If you are interested, please email >> me. Kathy babychicks...@gmail.com >> - Original Message - >> From: Gary Hilt >> To: silver-list@eskimo.com >> Sent: Friday, February 19, 2016 2:32 PM >> Subject: CS>nebulizer freuency >> >> Hi Yall >> i have upper respiratory and bronchial infection. >> How often should i nebulize silver breathing. >> using about 3.5 ml at a time? >> Thanks >> >> -- >> Eph 1:2 Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord >> Jesus Christ. >> Gary & Lennie
Re: CS>Best Day Ever ( Wife Bladder Update)
I'm so very pleased for you both Jeff, my poor husband went the removal route and died a year later after appalling suffering so I do understand what is involved and just wish we had done as you have. Hind sight no good though....dee Sent from my iPad > On 13 Feb 2016, at 03:31, Jeff wrote: > > Just wanted to give an update on my wife’s bladder. We stopped everything 2 > weeks ago. No more irrigations or supplements. She told me she believed she > was cured 100% around the first week of January but we decided to continue > the procedure for another month just to be sure. We didn’t quite make it the > full month because we decided to stop the first of February. > > Today we went to see the doc and have a cystoscopy and see what he had to > say. Remember in August we were told her bladder had to come out. > > He was ( to use his own words) amazed. Her bladder is healthy, she held the > regular amount of fluid, her flow was tested and was better than normal, and > he admitted we blew his socks off. It was everything we wanted to hear. He > wanted to know how I did it and said I need to find a way to make this > available to others. ( wow I sounded like one of those internet ads on that > last part huh ) > > He was very impressed and we couldn’t be more pleased. Thanks to God, and > everyone here for the helpful suggestions that helped me develop the protocol > that led to this. > And to my wife for volunteering to be the guinea pig for this mad scientist. > > Jeff
Re: CS>Fwd: Dr Wallach Colloidal Silver for Zika Virus - YouTube
Well said..Dee Sent from my iPad > On 7 Feb 2016, at 14:51, > wrote: > > > > From: Ode Coyote > Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2016 7:40 AM > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: Re: CS>Fwd: Dr Wallach Colloidal Silver for Zika Virus - YouTube > > > The Zika Virus Threat – Another Hoax? > > > zikra virus > > Disregard the media hysteria over mosquitoes carrying a virus that causes > pregnant woman to have deformed children. It’s not merely an over reaction; > it’s a prefabrication. Be patient, read on, and I’ll explain why with at > least one perspective that differs from public perception. > > First of all, the phrase problem, reaction, is used to describe external > events and their patterns that can be used to increase or exploit control > over whole populations. It’s the always use a tragedy or crisis to further > agendas of control or profit syndrome. > > But the problem can be manufactured to get a public reaction that would > clamor, even beg for a solution that the creators of the problem would > benefit from greatly. > > Meanwhile, the Zika virus has been around since the 1940s and had never been > linked to microcephaly until now. And there have been around 25,000 cases of > microcephaly in the United States annually. -Jon Rappoport > > Medical Mafia Use of Problem, Reaction, Solution > > Just since the turn of this century, we have witnessed: the West Nile Virus > scare; SARS (Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome) threats; the Swine Flu > falsely contrived “epidemic” during which the CDC lied about statistics; > Ebola (where did that crisis go?); and recently the greatly hyped and > exaggerated Disney World measles epidemic. > > All of them generated media fear porn and controversy for the benefit of the > > From: Ode Coyote > Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2016 7:40 AM > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: Re: CS>Fwd: Dr Wallach Colloidal Silver for Zika Virus - YouTube > > > The Zika Virus Threat – Another Hoax? > > > zikra virus > > Disregard the media hysteria over mosquitoes carrying a virus that causes > pregnant woman to have deformed children. It’s not merely an over reaction; > it’s a prefabrication. Be patient, read on, and I’ll explain why with at > least one perspective that differs from public perception. > > First of all, the phrase problem, reaction, is used to describe external > events and their patterns that can be used to increase or exploit control > over whole populations. It’s the always use a tragedy or crisis to further > agendas of control or profit syndrome. > > But the problem can be manufactured to get a public reaction that would > clamor, even beg for a solution that the creators of the problem would > benefit from greatly. > > Meanwhile, the Zika virus has been around since the 1940s and had never been > linked to microcephaly until now. And there have been around 25,000 cases of > microcephaly in the United States annually. -Jon Rappoport > > Medical Mafia Use of Problem, Reaction, Solution > > Just since the turn of this century, we have witnessed: the West Nile Virus > scare; SARS (Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome) threats; the Swine Flu > falsely contrived “epidemic” during which the CDC lied about statistics; > Ebola (where did that crisis go?); and recently the greatly hyped and > exaggerated Disney World measles epidemic. > > All of them generated media fear porn and controversy for the benefit of the > government and Big Pharma. All of them were based on lies – contrived > problems. > > They produced public, media, and official reactions that benefited Big > Pharma. Contrived hoaxes are an integral part of Big Pharma’s business model. > As Jon Rappoport stated, “If you want to hide anything on this planet, twist > it into a (fake) story about a virus. You’re home free.” > > That’s because almost everyone is convinced that we are all threatened by > germs, especially viruses. That itself is a big lie. Our biggest health > threats are from weakened immune systems and low pH bodily inner terrains > caused from modern lifestyles, including: Terrible fake food diets, toxic > medicines, vaccines, and thousands of toxic chemicals that have infected > agriculture, water, air, and household products. > > All infectious disease improvements that are used to justify pharmaceutical > antibiotics and vaccines can be attributed to better waste management and > modern plumbing. Infectious diseases spread more frequently in areas with no > or poor sewage, which often seeps into common area well water sources. > Connecting the Dots for a Plausible Picture > > The Zika virus carried by
Re: CS>Silver Puppy "ppm" numbers
Brilliant as always OdeDee Sent from my iPad > On 12 Dec 2015, at 11:55, Ode Coyote wrote: > > Once you hit the solubility limits of silver ions in water at around 13 PPM, > you go into a supersaturation area where environmental variables... trace > impurities, temperature etc. play a greater and greater role in 'kicking' off > a non conductive particle formation cascade reaction. > 'What' is in the water often counts more than how much..and no way to know > what, what is. > The variables connected with particle formation in a super saturated > solution make meters more and more fraught with error the further past the > saturation point you go because meters don't register anything BUT ionic > content. > > A meter reading past around 15 uS just doesn't mean very much. > > So, up to around 10-12 uS a meter says something fairly reliable but getting > there with current 'ramp up to control' on an exponential curve, starting who > knows where, making time a HUGE variable with the slightest difference in > initial water conductivity...well...using a clock just doesn't work. > But once the current control circuits stabilizes the current, ion emission > rate is predictably linear using Faraday calculations and a clock. > > You know how much silver entered the water..but what Faraday doesn't say is > how much *stayed* in the water. > > If there is very little on the bottom, most of it did. > > But > The stronger you make it, the more densely packed uncharged particles are and > the more likely they are to encounter each other and agglomerate into larger > particles, forming crystals around a seed nucleus and getting big enough to > settle out. > > Ode > >> On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 1:59 PM, Jerry Durand >> wrote: >> I suspect the main benefit of the high ppm solutions is to the bank account >> of the seller. I also suspect they use pretty high current or maybe >> sputtering to get that much silver in there. >> >> Or, they just lie about the number. >> >> >> Out of curiosity, I ran a pint batch with the Silver Puppy set to 10 ticks >> on the manual mode. I started with distilled water (0-1 uS by my meter) and >> the next day when it was done it only read 14 uS. I left it sit for a few >> days and then it read 12 uS. Seems awfully low for running that long. >> >> A normal auto run on the Silver Puppy gives a reading of 10 uS. >> >>> On 12/11/2015 03:32 AM, Ode Coyote wrote: >>> But since the physical properties of silver and water limit how much silver >>> will STAY in the water [solubility limits], relatively all of that 42,000 >>> will be sludge on the bottom as silver hydroxide and silver oxidewasted. >>> Some suspend the garbage in the water by making the water thicker, like old >>> used dirty motor oil can hold a lot of dirt >>> ...MSP Mild Silver Protein can be 50 or even 1000+ PPM, big chunks of >>> silver suspended in jello. >>> Lots of silver, little benefit. >>> >>> Ode >> >> -- >> Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc. www.interstellar.com >> tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886 >> >
Re: CS>Links? We don't need no stinking links!
I have to do this with one of mine because she is rescued and won't take it by dropper...Dee Sent from my iPad > On 10 Dec 2015, at 05:49, Jess wrote: > > What about CS in dog's drinking water? i read many people have done that. Jess > > > > >> On Dec 9, 2015, at 7:38 AM, Ron wrote: >> >> Did anybody click on the link? >> >> CS for bacteria but Vitamin C for virus. But apparently not CS for dogs. >> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19869854 >> >> Ron >> >> >> -- >> The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. >> Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org >> >> Unsubscribe: >> <mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe> >> Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html >> >> Off-Topic discussions: <mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com> >> List Owner: Mike Devour <mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com> >
Re: CS>Bacteria Resistant to ALL Drugs Shows up in Denmark
I only give it when they are ill LénaDee Sent from my iPad > On 9 Dec 2015, at 16:02, Lena Guyot wrote: > > Hi Dee, > I was wondering about this too, as the silverpets group advocate CS and > that's all my dog gets, after having firmly demonstrated his preference for > it. > He's 12 yrs. old (a Maltese) and I've noticed he's drinking more and peeing > more in the last two months. Hope it's simple age and not something sinister. > > Be well, > Léna >> On Dec 9, 2015, at 6:48 AM, Dee wrote: >> >> CS has always worked for my dogs...Dee >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On 8 Dec 2015, at 18:32, Ron wrote: >>> >>> CS for bacteria but Vitamin C for virus. But apparently not CS for dogs. >>> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19869854 >>> >>> How does one locate a Dr. that will administer these things intravenously? >>> Is Mexico the only place? >>> One man's interesting accounts of successes with crudely cooked CS. >>> Intravenous Use of Colloidal Silver http://blog.cgcsforum.com/?p=126 >>> >>> Ron >>> >>>> On 12/8/2015 9:36 AM, james osbourne : holmes II wrote: >>>> Yes, how about. If it is resistant it will be the first bacteria found to >>>> be resistant to CS. >>>> >>>> Jim >>>> james osbourne: holmes II >>>> Red Pill Media >>>> >>>>> On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 6:57 PM, Gmail wrote: >>>>> How about CS? >>>>> http://www.prisonplanet.com/bacteria-resistant-to-all-drugs-shows-up-in-denmark.html >
Re: CS>Bacteria Resistant to ALL Drugs Shows up in Denmark
CS has always worked for my dogs...Dee Sent from my iPad > On 8 Dec 2015, at 18:32, Ron wrote: > > CS for bacteria but Vitamin C for virus. But apparently not CS for dogs. > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19869854 > > How does one locate a Dr. that will administer these things intravenously? Is > Mexico the only place? > One man's interesting accounts of successes with crudely cooked CS. > Intravenous Use of Colloidal Silver http://blog.cgcsforum.com/?p=126 > > Ron > >> On 12/8/2015 9:36 AM, james osbourne : holmes II wrote: >> Yes, how about. If it is resistant it will be the first bacteria found to >> be resistant to CS. >> >> Jim >> james osbourne: holmes II >> Red Pill Media >> >>> On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 6:57 PM, Gmail wrote: >>> How about CS? >>> http://www.prisonplanet.com/bacteria-resistant-to-all-drugs-shows-up-in-denmark.html >
Re: CS>Linus Pauling's Non-prescription "Cure" for America's #1 Killer
How so Ron? Dee Sent from my iPad > On 21 Nov 2015, at 21:40, Ron wrote: > > http://www.paulingtherapy.com/ > "Linus Pauling's specific therapy for cardiovascular and heart diseases are > high dosages of two essential nutrients; vitamin C and the amino acid lysine" > [Wish they had made the page more readable.] > > Linus Pauling Institute > Micronutrient Information Center > Potassium > http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/mic/minerals/potassium > Magnisium > http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/mic/minerals/magnesium > > Ron > > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org > > Unsubscribe: > <mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe> > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html > > Off-Topic discussions: <mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com> > List Owner: Mike Devour <mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com> > >
Re: CS>Update on Wife's Bladder
It worked this time - don't know why.....Dee Sent from my iPad > On 13 Nov 2015, at 15:28, Patricia wrote: > > UTI [personal experience] > https://silverpuppy.com/article/tactic-that-worked-for-me > > above for UTI info and regular site http://silverpuppy.com/ these both > opened for me. > >> On 11/13/2015 8:33 AM, Dee wrote: >> I'm trying to connect to this link but can't seem to get on Odes site at >> all...Dee >
Re: CS>Update on Wife's Bladder
I'm trying to connect to this link but can't seem to get on Odes site at all...Dee Sent from my iPad > On 13 Nov 2015, at 13:18, Ode Coyote wrote: > > On UTI [personal experience] > https://silverpuppy.com/article/tactic-that-worked-for-me > > Ode > >> On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 12:09 AM, Jeff wrote: >> Good suggestion PT. To tell the truth she really didn’t like the hot tub >> because she used a family owned one that is located elsewhere and it was a >> hassle. The only reason she was doing it is because it would help with the >> pain when nothing else would. We discovered this method while trying >> anything we could think of that might help. But as I said in the previous >> post she no longer has to use the hot tub and that is a big relief to her. >> Makes life easier. >> >> >> >> Footnote: So far we have not had any infection, UTI, or adverse reaction of >> any kind during this protocol. ( another blessing) >> >> >> >> >> >> >This is wonderful news, Jeff. One piece of information. If you wife is >> >post-menopausal she might want to stay out of baths and hot >tubs. As >> >tissues thin and lose tone it allows bacteria to infiltrate the urethra and >> >thus cause bladder infections. >> >> >PT >> >> >> >> >> >> From: silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com >> [mailto:silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com] >> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 6:40 PM >> To: silver-dig...@eskimo.com >> Subject: silver-digest Digest V2015 #223 >> >
Re: CS>bladder problems
Hi Shirley, I've been taking 5 drops of nascent iodine per day lately as I am hypothyroid. I used to take more then stopped because I read somewhere that it can make hypothyroidism worse. I decided to ignore this as I am on Levothyroxin and wasn't feeling any better. I decided on the nascent form because it is supposed to be more bioavailable. Any thoughts on this? Dee Sent from my iPad > On 13 Nov 2015, at 01:48, Shirley Reed wrote: > > It has been my experience and information that nearly everyone is deficient > in iodine. Fifty years ago and before that iodine was known as the > 'universal medicine' and was always prescribed for nearly everything from bad > nerves to chilblains to cancer. It is always helpful in everything though > not necessarily a cure. In large doses it will make fibrocystic breast > disease a thing of the past and quickly. If one does not have enough iodine > one cannot have a well-functioning immune system. Ovarian cysts can > disappear practically overnight. Thyroid conditions, whether over or > underactive, need iodine to recover. Dr. David Brownstein has a book called > "Iodine: Why You Need It: Why You Can't Live Without It". You can get a > used copy in good condition from www.abebooks.com. It will tell you in > simple language exactly how to use it without worry. I personally had to > take 100 mgs. in a single dose to get one cyst to begin draining. But it is > now gone along with many smaller cousins. I still take 6 to 8 drops of 5% > Lugol's Solution nearly every day to keep cysts at bay. It works and I feel > better that ever before in my life. I am now 74 years old. That daily > dosage makes an MD cringe but then they don't blink an eye at any vaccine for > anybody including newborns. Too bad.pj > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org > > Unsubscribe: > <mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe> > Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html > > Off-Topic discussions: <mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com> > List Owner: Mike Devour <mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com> > >
Re: CS>Update on Wife's Bladder
Be wary of invasive foreign objects because that can cause massive infections.Dee Sent from my iPad > On 12 Nov 2015, at 05:14, Jeff wrote: > > My wife and I thank you all for your encouragement and responses. I have been > documenting our journey just in case this worked so I could hopefully help > others. We still have a long way to go but there is no pain and the CS I make > does not hurt her in any way and never did from day one ( unlike the silver > protein the doc prescribed ) so we are hopeful for an eventual full recovery. > > The reason I am upset about the being stuck at 4oz is that 4oz is only twice > as much as the doc could do before cracking and bleeding would start. I think > a healthy bladder will hold at least 16oz and we were wanting to be at 8oz or > more by the time we go see the doc in Feb. We are excited about that visit > because we are going to request a cystoscopy and we want to hear there is no > evidence of lesions or hunners ulcers both of which she had and we have > pictures of. That being said, my wife has even told me that she is happy if > it just stays like it is.
Re: CS>Update on Wife's Bladder
I'm so glad Jeff, I just wish we had done this for my husband but unfortunately he opted to have his bladder removed, which with hindsight - was a big mistake. Best wishes to you both....Dee Sent from my iPad > On 11 Nov 2015, at 21:16, Jeff wrote: > > Sorry it has taken so long to do this. I was given a lot of useful help and > suggestions from here and I wanted to update what we have been doing. As you > may remember, my wife has been suffering for almost 3 years with a bladder > problem ( that has never been really diagnosed because it doesn’t fit > completely into any category ) that has caused her to be in almost constant > pain with flare ups of intense pain, frequency with flare ups of having to go > every 5 minutes, uncontrolled bladder function, bleeding, we were told the > inside of her bladder looked like hamburger meat, she has been on every drug > for bladder healing and every antibiotic and had 2 fulgurations after which > we were told the bladder would have to be removed. This was on 7-30 of this > year and confirmed the end of August at post op visit. After some research > and getting advice from the helpful folks here, this is what we did. > > Starting on September 3 I began doing irrigations of CS ( made with silver > puppy and run on manual for tow hrs after light goes off. Not sure of the > ppm, maybe Ode can weigh in on that ) once a day. I would have preferred more > often but this is all we could manage. I won’t go into a lot of details on > this because it would make for a very long post. > > We started with 30cc because that was all she could handle and she only held > it for 11 minutes. > After a few days she could hold it for 30 minutes which was our goal > She was also sitting in a hot tub for 15/20 minutes before the procedure to > help relax everything > We have had our share of failures due to different reasons but we got most of > the bugs worked out > I gradually increased the amount by 10cc a week and it was rough but she > fought hard to keep it for 30 min > Also added 1200mg MSM capsules once a day after the first week > During the third week I started introducing some DMSO to the CS slowly > building up to 2ml > After 3 weeks she was out of the pain meds she was on and we decided not to > refill and see what happens > She had trouble sleeping for about a 4 days due to not taking one of the meds > but pain was bearable > She would experience involuntary spasms after stopping the muscle relaxer > that would push the CS out > And cause us to fail. I started her on D-Mannose and the spasms stopped. > > That is pretty much our regiment now except we no longer use the hot tub > We don’t do the procedure on the weekends > The pain reduced on a daily basis till last Friday when she told me she was > pain free > She has control of her bladder and has no more flare ups or frequency problems > She is on no medication at all for over a month > She can take 4oz of CS in her bladder and hold it for 30 minutes no problem ( > up from 30cc ) > I can’t seem to break the 4oz barrier for some reason but we don’t see the > doc till Feb > So we will keep plugging away. We are hoping to blow his socks off > Thanks again for all the help, hopefully more updates to come. > Jeff
Re: CS>Just to update my bleed.
Thanks for the suggestion Lola..Dee Sent from my iPad > On 9 Nov 2015, at 19:53, Lola Harris wrote: > > Dee, If you have a small electric coffee bean grinder machine, it is easy to > grind up > any nuts. Take 4 - 8 nuts, grind them up, measure the resultant quantity and > divide > it by the number of nuts you used. This should tell you how much 'grind' > equals one > or two nuts. 1/4 cup = 4 tbs or 9 tsps. (3 tsps. = 1 tbs). Put it in a > Tupperware container > or some such and then keep in the fridge. > Lola > > - Original Message - > From: Dee > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Sent: Mon, 09 Nov 2015 14:26:18 -0500 (EST) > Subject: Re: CS>Just to update my bleed. > > Trouble is my teeth are not up to nuts Lena although I love themDee > > Sent from my iPad > > On 9 Nov 2015, at 15:24, Lena Guyot wrote: > > Hi Dee, > Two Brazil nuts a day will supply all the selenium folks need. As a > supp.-pill-popper, I like this! > Be well, > Léna > On Nov 9, 2015, at 10:15 AM, Dee wrote: > > Thanks for that John. I don't normally use salt and then it's Himalayan if I > do, but I don't always eat so well and I know they put loads in processed > foods. I have always been wary of supplementing with minerals because some - > such as potassium and selenium - can be dangerous if in too high amounts. My > kidney reading did suggest there was something out of whack with the > electrolytes though. I've started eating sweet potatoes and have been having > coconut oil for ages, but my bp was 173/95 to start with but has been 168/76 > since. I just have to knuckle down and lose a stone or more I guess.Dee > > Sent from my iPad > > On 9 Nov 2015, at 14:11, John Popelish wrote: > > On 11/09/2015 08:50 AM, Dee wrote: > Great to hear from you Neville, and glad that you are doing > so well. I have just been diagnosed with some kidney > trouble, possibly due to high blood pressure. I am not going > to take any meds either but try and lose weight and eat > better. > > Are you using salt substitute (potassium salt) on your food? > Doctors have been preaching low sodium for high blood > pressure, for so long, they don't even think about it. But > it is beginning to look like high blood pressure is caused > more by a relative lack of potassium than too much sodium. > > So it may be more effective to > correct that imbalance by adding potassium than just by > reducing sodium. And the added potassium has lots of other > health benefits (I.e. reduced muscle cramps and better brain > function) than just lowering blood pressure. > > I wonder why all salt is not made with the optimum ratio of > sodium to potassium rather than just pure sodium salt, > just because that is how it comes out of the salt mine. > > I just dump one of those little blue shakers worth of salt > substitute into the box of salt, when it is partly used and > shake it up, and get about the right balance of sodium and > potassium without having to think about it. > > I also add a pinch of salt substitute and a quarter teaspoon > of MSM to each bottle of wine and feel much better on that. > > My pressure is usually around 110 over 70, or so. > > -- > Regards, > > John Popelish > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org > > Unsubscribe: > <mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe> > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html > > Off-Topic discussions: <mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com> > List Owner: Mike Devour <mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com> > > > > >
Re: CS>Just to update my bleed.
Trouble is my teeth are not up to nuts Lena although I love themDee Sent from my iPad > On 9 Nov 2015, at 15:24, Lena Guyot wrote: > > Hi Dee, > Two Brazil nuts a day will supply all the selenium folks need. As a > supp.-pill-popper, I like this! > Be well, > Léna >> On Nov 9, 2015, at 10:15 AM, Dee wrote: >> >> Thanks for that John. I don't normally use salt and then it's Himalayan if >> I do, but I don't always eat so well and I know they put loads in processed >> foods. I have always been wary of supplementing with minerals because some >> - such as potassium and selenium - can be dangerous if in too high amounts. >> My kidney reading did suggest there was something out of whack with the >> electrolytes though. I've started eating sweet potatoes and have been >> having coconut oil for ages, but my bp was 173/95 to start with but has been >> 168/76 since. I just have to knuckle down and lose a stone or more I >> guess.Dee >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>>> On 9 Nov 2015, at 14:11, John Popelish wrote: >>>> >>>> On 11/09/2015 08:50 AM, Dee wrote: >>>> Great to hear from you Neville, and glad that you are doing >>>> so well. I have just been diagnosed with some kidney >>>> trouble, possibly due to high blood pressure. I am not going >>>> to take any meds either but try and lose weight and eat >>>> better. >>> >>> Are you using salt substitute (potassium salt) on your food? >>> Doctors have been preaching low sodium for high blood >>> pressure, for so long, they don't even think about it. But >>> it is beginning to look like high blood pressure is caused >>> more by a relative lack of potassium than too much sodium. >>> >>> So it may be more effective to >>> correct that imbalance by adding potassium than just by >>> reducing sodium. And the added potassium has lots of other >>> health benefits (I.e. reduced muscle cramps and better brain >>> function) than just lowering blood pressure. >>> >>> I wonder why all salt is not made with the optimum ratio of >>> sodium to potassium rather than just pure sodium salt, >>> just because that is how it comes out of the salt mine. >>> >>> I just dump one of those little blue shakers worth of salt >>> substitute into the box of salt, when it is partly used and >>> shake it up, and get about the right balance of sodium and >>> potassium without having to think about it. >>> >>> I also add a pinch of salt substitute and a quarter teaspoon >>> of MSM to each bottle of wine and feel much better on that. >>> >>> My pressure is usually around 110 over 70, or so. >>> >>> -- >>> Regards, >>> >>> John Popelish >>> >>> >>> -- >>> The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. >>> Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org >>> >>> Unsubscribe: >>> <mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe> >>> Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html >>> >>> Off-Topic discussions: <mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com> >>> List Owner: Mike Devour <mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com> >
Re: CS>Just to update my bleed.
Thanks for that John. I don't normally use salt and then it's Himalayan if I do, but I don't always eat so well and I know they put loads in processed foods. I have always been wary of supplementing with minerals because some - such as potassium and selenium - can be dangerous if in too high amounts. My kidney reading did suggest there was something out of whack with the electrolytes though. I've started eating sweet potatoes and have been having coconut oil for ages, but my bp was 173/95 to start with but has been 168/76 since. I just have to knuckle down and lose a stone or more I guess.Dee Sent from my iPad > On 9 Nov 2015, at 14:11, John Popelish wrote: > >> On 11/09/2015 08:50 AM, Dee wrote: >> Great to hear from you Neville, and glad that you are doing >> so well. I have just been diagnosed with some kidney >> trouble, possibly due to high blood pressure. I am not going >> to take any meds either but try and lose weight and eat >> better. > > Are you using salt substitute (potassium salt) on your food? > Doctors have been preaching low sodium for high blood > pressure, for so long, they don't even think about it. But > it is beginning to look like high blood pressure is caused > more by a relative lack of potassium than too much sodium. > > So it may be more effective to > correct that imbalance by adding potassium than just by > reducing sodium. And the added potassium has lots of other > health benefits (I.e. reduced muscle cramps and better brain > function) than just lowering blood pressure. > > I wonder why all salt is not made with the optimum ratio of > sodium to potassium rather than just pure sodium salt, > just because that is how it comes out of the salt mine. > > I just dump one of those little blue shakers worth of salt > substitute into the box of salt, when it is partly used and > shake it up, and get about the right balance of sodium and > potassium without having to think about it. > > I also add a pinch of salt substitute and a quarter teaspoon > of MSM to each bottle of wine and feel much better on that. > > My pressure is usually around 110 over 70, or so. > > -- > Regards, > > John Popelish > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org > > Unsubscribe: > <mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe> > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html > > Off-Topic discussions: <mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com> > List Owner: Mike Devour <mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com> > >
Re: CS>Just to update my bleed.
Great to hear from you Neville, and glad that you are doing so well. I have just been diagnosed with some kidney trouble, possibly due to high blood pressure. I am not going to take any meds either but try and lose weight and eat better. Good luck with everything.Dee Sent from my iPad > On 9 Nov 2015, at 12:16, Neville wrote: > > Because we are among ourselves here, I want to put an update, seeing has > September my episode. > > > > People can believe this or not, I am not phased by that at all, I have my own > beliefs, as so does other people. > > > > My MRI in September means I had a fairly comprehensive full service and tune > up. > > > > They were concentrating on any abnormality, cancer etc. The MRI they shot > some hot stuff through my vein and sent it throughout, I believe, my body > system? > > > > My heart was perfect, no blocking or clogging arteries, anywhere else either > seemingly. > > > > My lungs were is good condition, no shadows or abnormalities, even though I > have been a smoker for near on 50 years. > > > > My liver was good. > > > > My kidneys were good. > > > > My bladder was good. > > > > My Prostrate contained 56cc, which is a little larger than normal, but > nothing to concern about with my age apparently, maybe it need to be looked > at someday, who knows? > > > > My Antigens showed my blood is damn clean, even a Doctor remarked on how good > my blood was...Surprise, surprise to someone, but not me . > > > > There was more I cannot forget at the moment, but the above is enough. I > chucked out the Epilepsy tablet after a couple of weeks, it was doing my head > in. That drug only in perhaps a seizure, of which I had none. I recently > another tiny tablet, breaking in half each day, I also binned, the other 3 > days ago. This is for fluid or something or other in the ankles or whatever. > I am only on one tablet now, and I intend to bin that one as soon after my > MRI in February, or perhaps earlier if I have a mind to. The Medico’s tell > me nothing, all they want to do is push drugs into people, I am not that type > of person, I have always said, I would rather die by my own hands than > someone else’s hands, I am not a slab of meat to be processed and hand over > to the Pharmaceuticals, only if emergency, which I guess was with me earlier. > > > I inquired on this List many, many years ago sooner after my interest in EIS, > asking if anyone knew of our silver stuff could clear arteries etc, to clear > them from cholesterol or whatever, nobody could answer my question. Well, I > am going to answer my own question right now here, this our silver absolutely > prevented my blood stream clogged of cholesterol or whatever else may clog my > arteries. I put nothing by my mouth unless it is food or liquid. There many > reasons for what I say about EIS, but todays life society and processed food > stuffs would must surely have done something to me by now? > > > > Remember, after 4 hours in a hospital, I discharged myself to go home to have > a sleep, advice I ignored for me to stay there in case I died during the > night, my BP was 220 when I was admitted in that afternoon. I just said “Too > bad, everybody has to die someday”, and I signed the form and went home to > bed. I went to a Doc the next morning and was re-admitted to hospital, but > of course I was not in a fit state by then, but I was still alive, hence at > midnight was flown to a City Hospital to try to stabilise my pressure in case > I needed urgent surgery, which was none. At this point I am still walking > around and talking, nothing in my life has changed, except a very minor > speech impediment at sometimes, about .9%, nearly 100% in another 6 months > perhaps I'll be fine , but I was a numpty for a few weeks. > My have done, and still do, my own Rehab. Those therapist people were for me > are for quitters . Google and other things have been my "Therapist" and > "Rehab". Although, I have only went to Google three times to help me write > this, far fewer than a few weeks ago that's for sure. > > > My bleed was just near my left ear, which they were reluctant to do surgery > due to possible complications, and remarked being a quite unusual place for a > bleed. Many of not reasons explained, but my bleed stopped in 24 hours, or > maybe earlier? The bleed was 39x35x28mm, not large I suppose, but then I > have no idea of a bleed anyway, but enough to give me some trouble, even > today with words and spelling and sentences. I cannot find answers to many > of my questi
Re: CS>MMS and blood brain barrier
I think oil of oregano would be the better bet as MMS should be used with great caution. Nascent iodine diluted would also be better.Dee Sent from my iPad > On 31 Oct 2015, at 03:35, Patricia wrote: > > not sure but it will be really good for your gums and teeth. I have read > reports of it stopping tooth decay. I believe it will > take off the build-up that is causing the gum problems. Also oil of oregano > is very good to heal gums. > >> On 10/30/2015 10:23 PM, Nancy Winiecki wrote: >> >> I wonder if anyone here knows if MMS can cross the blood brain barrier? I >> had a not very good perio checkup at the dentist and am thinking of trying >> brushing my teeth and using MMS in my oral irrigator, if I can stand the >> chlorine taste. I have a little oratec hand irrigator I used to use with CS >> so I could try that again too. >> >> Nancy >
Re: CS>Boring but never mind.
AbsolutelyDee Sent from my iPad > On 9 Oct 2015, at 17:43, Ron wrote: > > Right, Dee, and if one takes D3 then K2 is an absolute must. > > Ron > >> On 10/9/2015 9:38 AM, Dee wrote: >> Hi Ron and Neville, just thought I'd say that Vitamin K2 is good for >> strengthening blood vessel walls and also gelatin. See professor Ray >> PeatDee >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On 9 Oct 2015, at 17:05, Ron wrote: >> >>> G'day yerself Neville, >>> >>> Glad you are in good shape otherwise so your healing energy can be >>> concentrated where you need it most. >>> >>> When that huge blood collection is gone they are sure to find a comparable >>> sized brain whereas, as stated, my bleed was a tiny one but anyway praise >>> be for small favors. >>> >>> Ron >>> >>>> On 10/8/2015 6:04 PM, Neville wrote: >>>> >>>> G'day Ron, >>>> >>>> I had a few MRI's apparently, as other wires stuck all over my self, hurts >>>> danged to get them off the hair again , and CT scans, but there was too >>>> blood in my brain for them to see where the bleed came from. But a bonus >>>> is that looks like my lungs, kidneys, bladder, heart and blah blah of >>>> other organs seem to be in pretty good shape. I am not old of course >>>> being only 65, but I am pretty good it looks like it. Another MRI in a >>>> couple of weeks, this may show my brain again, if it's still there . >>>> >>>> Google is a wonder of thing, it helps me writing and spelling and >>>> remembering words, with not all letters give all words unfortunately. I >>>> was normal once, now I am a numpty for a while now...LOL. >>>> >>>> I think I said that I could have been a lot worse seemingly, but I >>>> definitely believe my daily silver regimen done good something over years. >>>> They gave me Epilepsy drug just in case I had any seizures, but I didn't >>>> have any seizures, so I binned one tablet a few days ago because they were >>>> doing my head in. Told the Doc later on and he said OK, but I must take >>>> that last one at night until I have my MRI, then I am going to bin that >>>> tablet regardless what another Doc says. But I think he will say OK >>>> anyway. >>>> >>>> I feel I am in perfect shape I reckon, nothing at all physical, exempt my >>>> brain has gone for a little workabout for a while . I had no idea at >>>> the time, other than my speech went funny, although I probably talk funny >>>> anyway some would say , but pressure was over 200 to 230 apparently, >>>> and then a roller coast for several hours up and down, that is why they >>>> chucked me on the Royal Flying Doctor Service plane to fly >>>> me to the City hospital. There was nothing to indicate me anything was >>>> wrong, I was doing my lock picking hobby in the morning, but one of my >>>> daughters txt me on Fathers Day and just new something was not right, I >>>> would have just stayed home otherwise. It's funny how our body works? >>>> The human body is a fine tuned machine, and is not to be messed with I >>>> guess, hence I will *still* never stop my daily silver. >>>> >>>> Glad to hear you are now OK Ron. This could happen with anyone, >>>> regardless. >>>> >>>> N. >>>> Subject: Re: CS>Boring but never mind. >>>> To: silver-list@eskimo.com >>>> From: ron@gmail.com >>>> Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2015 08:55:54 -0700 >>>> >>>> Hi Neville, >>>> Of course CS had nothing to do with the hematoma . >>>> >>>> In May of this year I had a strange feeling in my left hand. I ignored it >>>> for a couple of days but when I noticed a slight loss in dexterity I went >>>> to the doc who decided to play it safe and get me an MRI of the brain. >>>> After the MRI they shuttled me right into emergency. Seems I had a brain >>>> bleed (subdural hematoma). >>>> It was very very small but I was admitted for CT scans and after a couple >>>> of days I was speaking to a counselor about getting out of there when in >>>> mid speech I suddenly became incoherent and I'm told that my left face >>>> drooped. Next thing I new I was back on the gurney with throwing up type >>>> convulsions that lasted for 5 minutes or so. >>>> Anyhow after 3 more days and a final CT scan they discharged me. I had no >>>> symptoms. >>>> 9 days later another CT scan showed the clot was almost gone and I am fine >>>> today. As I said it was a very small bleed. >>>> >>>> What caused it? I am pretty certain that it was a morning I had dry heaves >>>> and was sticking my finger down my throat to feel better that put a lot of >>>> pressure up there. >>>> I do not take CS on a regular basis so absolutely not a factor. >>>> >>>> You seem to be doing pretty good as it is but I'm sure that as the brain >>>> heals you will be back to normal. >>>> >>>> Best wishes, >>>> >>>> Ron >>>> >>>> On 10/7/2015 5:40 PM, Neville wrote: >
Re: CS>Boring but never mind.
Hi Ron and Neville, just thought I'd say that Vitamin K2 is good for strengthening blood vessel walls and also gelatin. See professor Ray Peat....Dee Sent from my iPad > On 9 Oct 2015, at 17:05, Ron wrote: > > G'day yerself Neville, > > Glad you are in good shape otherwise so your healing energy can be > concentrated where you need it most. > > When that huge blood collection is gone they are sure to find a comparable > sized brain whereas, as stated, my bleed was a tiny one but anyway praise be > for small favors. > > Ron > >> On 10/8/2015 6:04 PM, Neville wrote: >> >> G'day Ron, >> >> I had a few MRI's apparently, as other wires stuck all over my self, hurts >> danged to get them off the hair again , and CT scans, but there was too >> blood in my brain for them to see where the bleed came from. But a bonus is >> that looks like my lungs, kidneys, bladder, heart and blah blah of other >> organs seem to be in pretty good shape. I am not old of course being only >> 65, but I am pretty good it looks like it. Another MRI in a couple of >> weeks, this may show my brain again, if it's still there . >> >> Google is a wonder of thing, it helps me writing and spelling and >> remembering words, with not all letters give all words unfortunately. I was >> normal once, now I am a numpty for a while now...LOL. >> >> I think I said that I could have been a lot worse seemingly, but I >> definitely believe my daily silver regimen done good something over years. >> They gave me Epilepsy drug just in case I had any seizures, but I didn't >> have any seizures, so I binned one tablet a few days ago because they were >> doing my head in. Told the Doc later on and he said OK, but I must take >> that last one at night until I have my MRI, then I am going to bin that >> tablet regardless what another Doc says. But I think he will say OK anyway. >> >> I feel I am in perfect shape I reckon, nothing at all physical, exempt my >> brain has gone for a little workabout for a while . I had no idea at the >> time, other than my speech went funny, although I probably talk funny anyway >> some would say , but pressure was over 200 to 230 apparently, and then a >> roller coast for several hours up and down, that is why they chucked me on >> the Royal Flying Doctor Service plane to fly me to the City hospital. There >> was nothing to indicate me anything was wrong, I was doing my lock picking >> hobby in the morning, but one of my daughters txt me on Fathers Day and just >> new something was not right, I would have just stayed home otherwise. It's >> funny how our body works? The human body is a fine tuned machine, and is >> not to be messed with I guess, hence I will *still* never stop my daily >> silver. >> >> Glad to hear you are now OK Ron. This could happen with anyone, regardless. >> >> N. >> Subject: Re: CS>Boring but never mind. >> To: silver-list@eskimo.com >> From: ron@gmail.com >> Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2015 08:55:54 -0700 >> >> Hi Neville, >> Of course CS had nothing to do with the hematoma . >> >> In May of this year I had a strange feeling in my left hand. I ignored it >> for a couple of days but when I noticed a slight loss in dexterity I went to >> the doc who decided to play it safe and get me an MRI of the brain. >> After the MRI they shuttled me right into emergency. Seems I had a brain >> bleed (subdural hematoma). >> It was very very small but I was admitted for CT scans and after a couple of >> days I was speaking to a counselor about getting out of there when in mid >> speech I suddenly became incoherent and I'm told that my left face drooped. >> Next thing I new I was back on the gurney with throwing up type convulsions >> that lasted for 5 minutes or so. >> Anyhow after 3 more days and a final CT scan they discharged me. I had no >> symptoms. >> 9 days later another CT scan showed the clot was almost gone and I am fine >> today. As I said it was a very small bleed. >> >> What caused it? I am pretty certain that it was a morning I had dry heaves >> and was sticking my finger down my throat to feel better that put a lot of >> pressure up there. >> I do not take CS on a regular basis so absolutely not a factor. >> >> You seem to be doing pretty good as it is but I'm sure that as the brain >> heals you will be back to normal. >> >> Best wishes, >> >> Ron >> >> On 10/7/2015 5:40 PM, Neville wrote: >
Re: CS>Boring but never mind.
You are still yourself Neville regardlesshave a speedy recoveryDee Sent from my iPad > On 7 Oct 2015, at 08:33, Neville wrote: > > I don’t wish to bore people, but I want just to say something regarding EIS > the home made product. Nobody need to say anything. I am just saying my > belief putting on paper here is all. > > > > I had Brain Bleed/Stroke in September a few weeks ago, so I will not bore > people, shite happens. > > > > Although I am still not properly talking, writing, and spelling but > apparently am told it will be better in time. > > > > My life I have always said…”When the going gets tuff, the tuff gets going”. > I still smuggled my silver into the City hospital (not name the City) and > drank some every morning. > > > > I believe drinking my amount every day for nearly 13 years had helped me > considering I could have been worse. How can I say that? No I can’t, but I > think it helped keeping my body kidneys and other organs in good shape. I > believe silver keeps the body plumbing in good shape. > > > > I know I talk and write like a “numpty” and at grade 3 pre schooler talking > and writing/spelling, but I say my drinking silver from every day over 13 > years helped me considered it could have been worse….perhaps? Some may not > believe, but I don’t care what people think because I do believe. Every > aforementioned three things I said which are troublesome, but apart from that > I am perfectly in every respect. I am 65 so I believe I am in great shape in > my organs, maybe I smoke for over 50 years and puff out quick, but an MRI > said my lungs, among other organs, are OK, but so I don't care, can’t live > forever, I have to be allowed one vice, but everything else seems to be great > apart from my dead head . > > > > I may have not said properly some things here, but I will forever say that > this silver stuff I drink every morning is the best thing I have ever done, > and will not stop drinking it every morning until hell freezes over. > > > > No proof? Of course I can’t prove this, but I believe regardless. > > > > This is more to anyone who may still have doubts about silver, I do NOT > doubt. Life is a bitch and can happen with anyone, and I will still slap > life when I ever get the chance to. > > > > I just really wanted to say here to any nay sayers about silver, that’s all. > Took me hours to write this...LOL. > > > > N. > >
Re: CS>Fwd: Any thoughts on this article
You are right there John! dee Sent from my iPad > On 27 Sep 2015, at 19:47, John Popelish wrote: > >> On 09/27/2015 02:31 PM, Dee wrote: >> How very interesting and explained succinctly... > > I have the form where there are no lesions.Dee > > As I understand the disease, > I think this means you are far less likely > to be dumping contagious virus particles > into your environment. > Your body is containing the replication > before it reaches your skin. > > Still hurts like hell, though. > > -- > Regards, > > John Popelish > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org > > Unsubscribe: > <mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe> > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html > > Off-Topic discussions: <mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com> > List Owner: Mike Devour <mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com> > >
Re: CS>Fwd: Any thoughts on this article
How very interesting and explained succinctly...I have the form where there are no lesions.Dee Sent from my iPad > On 27 Sep 2015, at 18:16, John Popelish wrote: > >> On 09/27/2015 12:56 PM, PT Ferrance wrote: >> I still don't buy it and I usually can accept things. But >> this is illogical. The piece of DNA coding sits in a >> person's spinal nerve root for generations? How does it get >> from the nerve root to the sperm and eggs? Why does it wait >> for every other generation? Why not manifest in the >> generation that had the chicken pox in the first place... or >> the parents? Why wait for the grandparents? >> Also, shingles can be successfully treated with Acupuncture >> and Oriental Medicine. > > Sorry that I nave not explained clearly. > > When a person gets chicken pox, > the virus inserts its DNA > into the DNA of nerve cells, > causing those cells to produce copies of the virus, > that are released into the environment, > where those nerves connect with the skin, > at the pox lesions. > > This provides an obvious contagious route > to get the virus into other people. > > But this eventually means that almost everyone > has been exposed to the virus > and had become immune to it, > and the contagion does down, > in any given human community. > > This saturation process takes enough time, > that a couple of human generations > become immune at the same time. > > If this was all there was to chicken pox, > with its high contagion success, > it would cause it to run out of hosts > and go extinct in about two human generations. > > But this virus has another trick up its sleeve > to let it get around its too effective spread. > > And that trick is shingles. > > It produces a second contagious episode, > after a long enough time has passed, > that a new, non-immune generation of humans > has arrived to host its replication. > > It does this in potentially > every person who had chicken pox. > > I didn't mean to imply that shingles affects > only alternate generations of humans. > I was saying that the point of shingles > is to jump over a generation of immune humans > to infect a later generation > that has no immunity. > > Shingles is chicken pox's way > of patiently waiting > for a new generation > of non-immune hosts. > > This has been its survival trick > for thousands of years. > > -- > Regards, > > John Popelish > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org > > Unsubscribe: > <mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe> > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html > > Off-Topic discussions: <mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com> > List Owner: Mike Devour <mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com> > >
Re: CS>Fwd: Any thoughts on this article
Besides, even if the vaccine weren't ineffective or dangerous, you have to have it the minute the lesions show or it doesn't work anyway.Dee Sent from my iPad > On 27 Sep 2015, at 15:55, Deborah Gerard wrote: > > Never ever take any vaccine or advise anyone to get one unless you know what > are in them...from what I have read there isn't anything good in them...take > the cs and spray with dmso added to it for sure. > > > > On Sunday, September 27, 2015 12:41 AM, Patricia wrote: > > > Take the vaccine immediately. If you have ever had chicken pox then the > virus is dormant in your spine. Different things can make it come out .. > usually stress or illness. I had one spot that itched like crazy ..finally > went to doctor .. it was shingles. Took the vaccine..and have not had any > further outbreaks. Taking lysine is supposed to help prevent it and help > with outbreaks. > Good luck to your mom. > >> On 9/26/2015 10:06 PM, RaVen wrote: > > Thanks everyone for the tips --- my mother is miserable with shingles > Curious does anyone understand how it comes about? I know it's a family of > chicken pox - some say it's from a vaccine; other says it's from too much > argine amino acid; stress; lyme; .. > > > > On Sep 25, 2015, at 10:22 PM, Dan Nave wrote: > > Yes. Take orally and topically. You can also use a Zapper or Godzilla > device for this. If she has pox you can soften them with castor oil. > > Dan > > On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 2:06 PM, RaVen wrote: > Does CS help people who suffer from shingles? > My mother just got it a few days ago. > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org > > Unsubscribe: > <mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe> > Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html > > Off-Topic discussions: <mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com> > List Owner: Mike Devour <mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com> > > > > > >
Re: CS>Fwd: Any thoughts on this article
Give her a thousand mgs of lysine per day, this has helped people enormously , and I took oil of oregano as well although some people find it too hard to take. I get recurring bouts when I get stressed but I have the form which has no lesions. CS mixed with aloe Vera gel worked well on the lesions my friend hadDee Sent from my iPad > On 27 Sep 2015, at 04:06, RaVen wrote: > > Thanks everyone for the tips --- my mother is miserable with shingles > Curious does anyone understand how it comes about? I know it's a family of > chicken pox - some say it's from a vaccine; other says it's from too much > argine amino acid; stress; lyme; .. > > > > On Sep 25, 2015, at 10:22 PM, Dan Nave wrote: > > Yes. Take orally and topically. You can also use a Zapper or Godzilla > device for this. If she has pox you can soften them with castor oil. > > Dan > >> On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 2:06 PM, RaVen wrote: >> Does CS help people who suffer from shingles? >> My mother just got it a few days ago. >> >> >> -- >> The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. >> Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org >> >> Unsubscribe: >> <mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe> >> Archives: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html >> >> Off-Topic discussions: <mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com> >> List Owner: Mike Devour <mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com> >
Re: CS>Laser test and results
I get a laser trail just through distilled water, but not tap waterDee Sent from my iPad > On 24 Sep 2015, at 02:52, Ed V wrote: > > On 9/23/2015 5:50 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote: > > What I did was buy a quality CS product, Sovereign CS, and tested it. It is > a clear product, clear water color, and tested 6ppm. It is advertised at > 10ppm and it was explained that ppm is not a measurement that can be used for > CS. Under the laser light, as explained by other professional makers of CS, > you don't see a light trail. So many opinions, and I guess the expensive > testing procedure is the only answer, which Sovereign uses. I figure that > using the ppm and getting a reading, no laser trail is a great homemade > product. So far, not made yet. > >> How do they know if they even have a product? >> >> >> >> On Wednesday, September 23, 2015 7:51 PM, Ed V wrote: >> >> >> I belong to a Rife group and the conscientious of the leader is that >> laser testing and seeing particles means you have a small in size silver >> product. It is my thought from reading and testing different products >> that if you see a laser trail of fine particles, your silver product is >> too large. Please, what is the true story? >> >> >> -- >> The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. >> Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org >> >> Unsubscribe: >> <mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe> >> Archives: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html >> >> Off-Topic discussions: <mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com> >> List Owner: Mike Devour <mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com> >
Re: CS>Info on colloidal copper
Thanks OdeDee Sent from my iPad > On 3 Sep 2015, at 11:04, Ode Coyote wrote: > > Copper can be toxic [as can zinc], but you need some and the body regulates > it very closely. > It has to because copper is VERY common in the environment and some water has > so much copper in it naturally that it will leave green or blue stains in the > sink. > Copper shares the same elimination system that silver does using Selenium as > the chelating agent. > Might want to supplement that. > Transformer wire is pretty small in diameter and has a heavy hard to remove > coating of varnish as the insulator. Coax cable is likewise quite thin. > #12 or #10 romex or grounding wire is the way to go and is .999 copper by > industry standard. > > Copper will not form a stable ion, therefore does not contribute to > increasing conductivity when being electrolysed in distilled water...no > "runaway"..but also doesn't register on a PPM or conductivity meter. I can > detect no flavor. The only way to tell you made it is with a laser pointer > and there's no way to tell how strong. > > Colloidal copper generators can be quite simple. > I use a 24 volt DC power supply with an LED in series with one of the wires > just to show that all the connections are made and current is flowing. > Wiresabout 8-10 inches long. > > Ode > >> On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 3:35 AM, Dee wrote: >> Isn't copper toxic though? Dee >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On 2 Sep 2015, at 22:46, Deborah Gerard wrote: >>> >>> Hello group, >>> >>> On another silver group is a gal that is raving about colloidal copper and >>> how great it is and also is easy to make. I went briefly into the CS >>> archives here and there was a mention of romex cable from Menards. I am >>> curious about the copper wire. I have a transformer and Coaxial cable...can >>> I take the copper wire that is in one of these and make the colloidal >>> copper? >>> >>> Thanks for any and all input in advance, >>> >>> Debbie >
Re: CS>Info on colloidal copper
Isn't copper toxic though? Dee Sent from my iPad > On 2 Sep 2015, at 22:46, Deborah Gerard wrote: > > Hello group, > > On another silver group is a gal that is raving about colloidal copper and > how great it is and also is easy to make. I went briefly into the CS archives > here and there was a mention of romex cable from Menards. I am curious about > the copper wire. I have a transformer and Coaxial cable...can I take the > copper wire that is in one of these and make the colloidal copper? > > Thanks for any and all input in advance, > > Debbie
Re: CS>RE: silver-digest Digest V2015 #190
Ive lost track of who posted so am tagging on here. I just thought I'd mention D-Mannose here as my sister uses this for recurring bladder infections. I believe it is the active ingredient in cranberry juice.....Dee Sent from my iPad > On 2 Sep 2015, at 00:06, PT Ferrance wrote: > > Jeff, I just remembered about a friend who had chronic bladder infections and > the doctors finally told her she would just have to learn to live with them. > She started researching nutrition and found that Vit A deficiency will cause > the bladder lining to become like a petri dish and bacteria will just grow > uncontrolled. She was too poor to purchase supplements but lived in the > country where violets grew wild. The leaves she told me were the highest > natural source of Vit A. She started cooking them like spinach and eating > them in salads and before she knew it the bladder infections were gone. > I thought you might be interested so you could do some research. I believe > at the time it was Adele Davis. > PT > > From: Jeff > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 11:33 AM > Subject: CS>RE: silver-digest Digest V2015 #190 > > Thank you for your reply John. I was wondering if the MSM would do any good > adding it to the CS irrigation, or if it would do better with her taking it > by mouth. I was thinking to have her take it by mouth anyway and I think 1000 > mg is a nice round number to use. As for the DMSO, that is something that the > doctors used to use when doing this and it seemed to be effective. My > thoughts are just using CS for a few treatments to kind of heal the exposed > areas of said hamburger and then adding small amount of DMSO so there will be > less or no irritation and the DMSO will allow the CS to travel past what it > has already done to the deeper problem. I would love to do two treatments a > day but she will not go for that. She hates the treatments and I am lucky to > get two a week, but I am going to press for more. I am in full agreement with > you that the more exposure to the CS the better. I keep telling her that it > is only working while it’s touching the problem area. > Something I had forgotten about that I rediscovered by accident is > bentionite. I am also wondering if adding a pinch of bentonite to the CS > would be of any benefit. > > “Sorry, but I missed an ingredient in making salt water that is similar to > tears or blood plasma. For each pint of water, you add a teaspoon of salt > and 1/3rd teaspoon of epsom salt. These should be added after the silver > water is brewed.” > > -- > Regards, > > John Popelish > > > From: silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > [mailto:silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com] > Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 9:35 PM > To: silver-dig...@eskimo.com > Subject: silver-digest Digest V2015 #190 > > > >
Re: CS>electromagnetic instruments
Also well putDee Sent from my iPad > On 28 Aug 2015, at 15:09, John Popelish wrote: > > My point in bringing any of this up > is that humans have a powerful ability > to find a nugget of truth, > hidden in a truckload of clutter. > > But, unless we are willing > to set aside our enthusiasm > and work to separate that nugget of truth, > we end up embracing the truckload of clutter. > > The reason science has been so successful > at building a detailed model > of how reality works, > is because the method does not stop, > just because some trial worked. > > In the case of magnetic healing aid, > there may be a wonderful fact to be had. > But if we latch onto the first trial that works, > we may never gain that deeper understanding > of exactly what is going on > and how it operates > and what parts of the original trial > were just noise that obscured > the important facts. > > >> On 08/28/2015 08:17 AM, PT Ferrance wrote: >> Go find the books of Davis and Rawls. >> PT >> >> *From:* John Popelish >> >>> I burned through a half dozen papers, so far, and found poor >>> experiment description (not reproducible, from the >>> description), arbitrary pulse frequency (DC to Hz) and >>> amplitude, for no given reasons and slight positive effect, >>> if any. >>> >>> We must be finding different papers, in that search. >>> >>> So far, no mention of any positive effect of particular pole >>> polarity. > > -- > Regards, > > John Popelish > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org > > Unsubscribe: > <mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe> > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html > > Off-Topic discussions: <mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com> > List Owner: Mike Devour <mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com> > >
Re: CS>iodine and thyroid
I use Nascent iodine.Dee Sent from my iPad > On 28 Aug 2015, at 01:23, Eblaine wrote: > > The iodine I've used for many years is from Phil at IodineSource.com. It's > atomic iodine based on Edgar Cayce's specifications in his readings. > > > Best regards, > EB > > > From: Jane MacRoss > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 4:42 PM > Subject: Re: CS>iodine and thyroid > > Thanks Shirley! > > https://www.jcrows.com/MaryJoFahey_IodineRemediesSecretsFromTheSea.pdf > > Jane > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org > > Unsubscribe: > <mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe> > Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html > > Off-Topic discussions: <mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com> > List Owner: Mike Devour <mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com> > > > >
Re: CS>electromagnetic instruments
Very well put LolaDee Sent from my iPad > On 28 Aug 2015, at 05:14, Lola Harris wrote: > > John, skepticism is always appropriate. I think (just my opinion) that folks > like us are probably more skeptical than the general population. We do our > research and our homework and then try things out. If we weren't skeptics, we > would be broke and in pain and have deteriorating health (ie: falling for > everything). We learn to separate the gold from the drosslol.. > > I am sure we come across some duds from time to time but we also discover some > real gems along the way. In the world of alternatives, it is the wild, wild > west 'out there' and there seems to be a wonder cure of the week so.. you > learn > to develop a good 'bs' antennae, if you know what I mean. For some things, a > double or single blind study is impossible... like DMSO. One cannot duplicate > the odor that comes from using DMSO so, it works but it is impossible to > 'test' > it and meet FDA standards. > > I find it amusing at how vets are so open to 'alternatives' like DMSO and > shark > cartilage for inflammation, for instance. Their patients (like your dog) are > impervious to placebo effects and can't rationalize or verbalize their > conditions. > Something either works with the animals or it doesn't. Personally, I see > nothing > wrong with a placebo effect. If it relieves a condition or pain... why not? > They > say we only use a small fraction of our brain/mind capacity. So, who knows > what > is going on with any certainty? > Lola > > > > > > - Original Message - > From: John Popelish > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Sent: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 23:38:23 -0400 (EDT) > Subject: Re: CS>electromagnetic instruments > >> On 08/27/2015 10:26 PM, Victor Cozzetto wrote: >> Uh... John... >> >> You do realize that we are kind of an underground >> mailing list for a reason, right? ;-) I.e. I don't think >> that many of us care a lot about peer reviewed >> publications in medical journals, as that is basically >> exclusive to big pharmaceutical companies, is often >> fraudulent (just like drug trials), or is suppressed when >> it concerns things outside of big pharma control. > > That doesn't mean we have to be gullible. That just invites > the same sort of abuse from people competing with big > pharma. I'm open minded, but I try to not let my brain fall out. > > But if reasonable scepticism is out of place here, then I > will bow out. > > -- > Regards, > > John Popelish > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org > > Unsubscribe: > <mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe> > Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html > > Off-Topic discussions: <mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com> > List Owner: Mike Devour <mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com> > > >
Re: CS>Terminator
Thanks DaveDee Sent from my iPad > On 27 Aug 2015, at 05:24, Dan Nave wrote: > > Current doesn't penetrate or travel evenly in all parts of the body. Those > parts that carry the current should be effected. > Probably is effective in the blood and wherever the blood flows to. It is > pretty evident that it doesn't cause a major die-off > of intestinal bacteria like antibiotics might, or we would suffer similar > consequences after zapping. > >> On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 2:34 AM, Dee wrote: >> How do they kill parasites then? I understood these lodge in the intestines >> and organs. Just curiousDee >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On 23 Aug 2015, at 19:42, Dan Nave wrote: >>> >>> No, they don't seem to penetrate the intestine. >>> >>>> On Sun, Aug 23, 2015 at 4:18 AM, Dee wrote: >>>> One thing worries me about these devices, could they destroy the >>>> microbiome? Dee >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPad >>>> >>>> > On 23 Aug 2015, at 03:35, Steve Levine wrote: >>>> > >>>> > As far as I can tell this is the best deal on the T2 Zapper: >>>> > http://wolfcreekranch1.tripod.com/terminator_zapper.html >>>> > >>>> > $115 and free shipping. >>>> > >>>> > Steve >>>> > evelyn wrote: >>>> > >>>> > = >>>> > Regarding electromagnetic devices, I want to comment on a device I saw >>>> > linked to Dr. Bob Beck's website - a manufacturer of devices I beleive in >>>> > Canada. >>>> > For certain electromagnetic stimulation can help with biological issues >>>> > because we function on electromagnetic signals, especially from the >>>> > nervous >>>> > system. However, one of the devices gave out an etremely strong magnetic >>>> > field (something like hundreds or thouisands of gauss.) This is >>>> > dangerous. >>>> > Even the conservative OSHA limits are only a few gauss for short periods. >>>> > >>>> >> On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 6:42 PM, BW wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >> Where can one get a Terminator? >>>> >> Thanks >>>> >> Bonnie >>>> >>> On Aug 22, 2015 7:42 AM, "Shirley Reed" >>>> >>> wrote: >>>> >>> >>>> >>> The Terminator is a wonderful device. Fifteen years ago osteoarthritis >>>> >>> was beginning to affect both of my hands rather badly. After a few >>>> >>> days of >>>> >>> use, the extremely painful, red and very hot Heberden's nodes on the >>>> >>> right >>>> >>> index finger had lost all the redness and heat and most of the pain and >>>> >>> tenderness. The nodes remain to this day but are very small and have >>>> >>> no >>>> >>> tenderness. If I forget to change batteries they will start getting >>>> >>> tender >>>> >>> again. The first hour I used the T, the pain of a heel spur completely >>>> >>> disappeared. The spur is still there I think, but no pain at all. >>>> >>> Also, >>>> >>> at that time a son had acne and it was all gone in three days. I have >>>> >>> a >>>> >>> couple of T's because I loan them out occasionally. It is possible >>>> >>> that >>>> >>> one man I loaned one to has avoided amputation of both legs because of >>>> >>> its >>>> >>> use. His doc's told them they thought he had bone marrow dying in both >>>> >>> legs. Great pain and unable to walk . In three days time on the T. >>>> >>> his >>>> >>> pain was >>>> >>> over 50% gone. A couple more days and no wheelchair, no crutches and >>>> >>> shortly after that not even a cane. No pain of course either. He's >>>> >>> in >>>> >>> great shape now. It can take away extreme fatigue in a hurry too. I >>>> >>> hope >>>> >>> to never be without a T. At nearly 75 yrs., I use it very regularly >>>> >>> though >>>> >>> not round the clock. Dollar store batteries work just fine and at .50 >>>> >>> cents apeice, are a great bargain. They are a little fat, but a small >>>> >>> piece of tape keeps the top on well. Best wishes, pj or dc >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> -- >>>> >>> The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. >>>> >>> Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Unsubscribe: >>>> >>> <mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe> >>>> >>> Archives: >>>> >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Off-Topic discussions: <mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com> >>>> >>> List Owner: Mike Devour <mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com> >>>> > >
Re: CS>Terminator
How do they kill parasites then? I understood these lodge in the intestines and organs. Just curiousDee Sent from my iPad > On 23 Aug 2015, at 19:42, Dan Nave wrote: > > No, they don't seem to penetrate the intestine. > >> On Sun, Aug 23, 2015 at 4:18 AM, Dee wrote: >> One thing worries me about these devices, could they destroy the microbiome? >> Dee >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> > On 23 Aug 2015, at 03:35, Steve Levine wrote: >> > >> > As far as I can tell this is the best deal on the T2 Zapper: >> > http://wolfcreekranch1.tripod.com/terminator_zapper.html >> > >> > $115 and free shipping. >> > >> > Steve >> > evelyn wrote: >> > >> > = >> > Regarding electromagnetic devices, I want to comment on a device I saw >> > linked to Dr. Bob Beck's website - a manufacturer of devices I beleive in >> > Canada. >> > For certain electromagnetic stimulation can help with biological issues >> > because we function on electromagnetic signals, especially from the nervous >> > system. However, one of the devices gave out an etremely strong magnetic >> > field (something like hundreds or thouisands of gauss.) This is dangerous. >> > Even the conservative OSHA limits are only a few gauss for short periods. >> > >> >> On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 6:42 PM, BW wrote: >> >> >> >> Where can one get a Terminator? >> >> Thanks >> >> Bonnie >> >>> On Aug 22, 2015 7:42 AM, "Shirley Reed" >> >>> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> The Terminator is a wonderful device. Fifteen years ago osteoarthritis >> >>> was beginning to affect both of my hands rather badly. After a few days >> >>> of >> >>> use, the extremely painful, red and very hot Heberden's nodes on the >> >>> right >> >>> index finger had lost all the redness and heat and most of the pain and >> >>> tenderness. The nodes remain to this day but are very small and have no >> >>> tenderness. If I forget to change batteries they will start getting >> >>> tender >> >>> again. The first hour I used the T, the pain of a heel spur completely >> >>> disappeared. The spur is still there I think, but no pain at all. Also, >> >>> at that time a son had acne and it was all gone in three days. I have a >> >>> couple of T's because I loan them out occasionally. It is possible that >> >>> one man I loaned one to has avoided amputation of both legs because of >> >>> its >> >>> use. His doc's told them they thought he had bone marrow dying in both >> >>> legs. Great pain and unable to walk . In three days time on the T. his >> >>> pain was >> >>> over 50% gone. A couple more days and no wheelchair, no crutches and >> >>> shortly after that not even a cane. No pain of course either. He's in >> >>> great shape now. It can take away extreme fatigue in a hurry too. I >> >>> hope >> >>> to never be without a T. At nearly 75 yrs., I use it very regularly >> >>> though >> >>> not round the clock. Dollar store batteries work just fine and at .50 >> >>> cents apeice, are a great bargain. They are a little fat, but a small >> >>> piece of tape keeps the top on well. Best wishes, pj or dc >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. >> >>> Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org >> >>> >> >>> Unsubscribe: >> >>> <mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe> >> >>> Archives: >> >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html >> >>> >> >>> Off-Topic discussions: <mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com> >> >>> List Owner: Mike Devour <mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com> >> > >
Re: CS>Terminator
It is the BestZapper and is the one built as recommended by Hulda Clark a pioneer in this field. I believe Eric Doerkson (spelling) makes itDee Sent from my iPad > On 23 Aug 2015, at 01:14, Kathy Tankersley wrote: > > Where do you get this zapper? What do I look for? Thanks, Kathy > - Original Message ----- From: "Dee" > To: > Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2015 11:19 AM > Subject: Re: CS>Terminator > > > I have a Zapper - is this the same thing? Dee > > Sent from my iPad > >> On 22 Aug 2015, at 15:42, Shirley Reed wrote: >> >> The Terminator is a wonderful device. Fifteen years ago osteoarthritis was >> beginning to affect both of my hands rather badly. After a few days of use, >> the extremely painful, red and very hot Heberden's nodes on the right index >> finger had lost all the redness and heat and most of the pain and >> tenderness. The nodes remain to this day but are very small and have no >> tenderness. If I forget to change batteries they will start getting tender >> again. The first hour I used the T, the pain of a heel spur completely >> disappeared. The spur is still there I think, but no pain at all. Also, at >> that time a son had acne and it was all gone in three days. I have a couple >> of T's because I loan them out occasionally. It is possible that one man I >> loaned one to has avoided amputation of both legs because of its use. His >> doc's told them they thought he had bone marrow dying in both legs. Great >> pain and unable to walk . In three days time on the T. his pain was >> over 50% gone. A couple more days and no wheelchair, no crutches and >> shortly after that not even a cane. No pain of course either. He's in >> great shape now. It can take away extreme fatigue in a hurry too. I hope >> to never be without a T. At nearly 75 yrs., I use it very regularly though >> not round the clock. Dollar store batteries work just fine and at .50 >> cents apeice, are a great bargain. They are a little fat, but a small piece >> of tape keeps the top on well. Best wishes, pj or dc >> >> >> -- >> The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. >> Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org >> >> Unsubscribe: >> <mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe> >> Archives: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html >> >> Off-Topic discussions: <mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com> >> List Owner: Mike Devour <mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com> >> >> >
Re: CS>Terminator
One thing worries me about these devices, could they destroy the microbiome? Dee Sent from my iPad > On 23 Aug 2015, at 03:35, Steve Levine wrote: > > As far as I can tell this is the best deal on the T2 Zapper: > http://wolfcreekranch1.tripod.com/terminator_zapper.html > > $115 and free shipping. > > Steve > evelyn wrote: > > = > Regarding electromagnetic devices, I want to comment on a device I saw > linked to Dr. Bob Beck's website - a manufacturer of devices I beleive in > Canada. > For certain electromagnetic stimulation can help with biological issues > because we function on electromagnetic signals, especially from the nervous > system. However, one of the devices gave out an etremely strong magnetic > field (something like hundreds or thouisands of gauss.) This is dangerous. > Even the conservative OSHA limits are only a few gauss for short periods. > >> On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 6:42 PM, BW wrote: >> >> Where can one get a Terminator? >> Thanks >> Bonnie >>> On Aug 22, 2015 7:42 AM, "Shirley Reed" wrote: >>> >>> The Terminator is a wonderful device. Fifteen years ago osteoarthritis >>> was beginning to affect both of my hands rather badly. After a few days of >>> use, the extremely painful, red and very hot Heberden's nodes on the right >>> index finger had lost all the redness and heat and most of the pain and >>> tenderness. The nodes remain to this day but are very small and have no >>> tenderness. If I forget to change batteries they will start getting tender >>> again. The first hour I used the T, the pain of a heel spur completely >>> disappeared. The spur is still there I think, but no pain at all. Also, >>> at that time a son had acne and it was all gone in three days. I have a >>> couple of T's because I loan them out occasionally. It is possible that >>> one man I loaned one to has avoided amputation of both legs because of its >>> use. His doc's told them they thought he had bone marrow dying in both >>> legs. Great pain and unable to walk . In three days time on the T. his >>> pain was >>> over 50% gone. A couple more days and no wheelchair, no crutches and >>> shortly after that not even a cane. No pain of course either. He's in >>> great shape now. It can take away extreme fatigue in a hurry too. I hope >>> to never be without a T. At nearly 75 yrs., I use it very regularly though >>> not round the clock. Dollar store batteries work just fine and at .50 >>> cents apeice, are a great bargain. They are a little fat, but a small >>> piece of tape keeps the top on well. Best wishes, pj or dc >>> >>> >>> -- >>> The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. >>> Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org >>> >>> Unsubscribe: >>> <mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe> >>> Archives: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html >>> >>> Off-Topic discussions: <mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com> >>> List Owner: Mike Devour <mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com> >
Re: CS>Terminator
I have a Zapper - is this the same thing? Dee Sent from my iPad > On 22 Aug 2015, at 15:42, Shirley Reed wrote: > > The Terminator is a wonderful device. Fifteen years ago osteoarthritis was > beginning to affect both of my hands rather badly. After a few days of use, > the extremely painful, red and very hot Heberden's nodes on the right index > finger had lost all the redness and heat and most of the pain and tenderness. > The nodes remain to this day but are very small and have no tenderness. If > I forget to change batteries they will start getting tender again. The first > hour I used the T, the pain of a heel spur completely disappeared. The spur > is still there I think, but no pain at all. Also, at that time a son had > acne and it was all gone in three days. I have a couple of T's because I > loan them out occasionally. It is possible that one man I loaned one to has > avoided amputation of both legs because of its use. His doc's told them they > thought he had bone marrow dying in both legs. Great pain and unable to walk > . In three days time on the T. his pain was > over 50% gone. A couple more days and no wheelchair, no crutches and shortly > after that not even a cane. No pain of course either. He's in great shape > now. It can take away extreme fatigue in a hurry too. I hope to never be > without a T. At nearly 75 yrs., I use it very regularly though not round the > clock. Dollar store batteries work just fine and at .50 cents apeice, are a > great bargain. They are a little fat, but a small piece of tape keeps the > top on well. Best wishes, pj or dc > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org > > Unsubscribe: > <mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe> > Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html > > Off-Topic discussions: <mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com> > List Owner: Mike Devour <mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com> > >
Re: CS>CS and cancer treatment
Honey is still sugar although it has other beneficial things in it I believe. I'm not sure about coconut sugar....Dee Sent from my iPad > On 22 Aug 2015, at 13:24, RaVen wrote: > > I made an error - I meant to say other forms of sugar from fruit --- not > fructose > What about coconut sugar (low glycemic) --- raw honey? > Stevia? > > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org > > Unsubscribe: > <mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe> > Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html > > Off-Topic discussions: <mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com> > List Owner: Mike Devour <mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com> > >
Re: CS>CS and cancer treatment
Well I guess that smaller amounts would be absorbed by the solid matter in the digestive system and then not be a problem because CS has to be in contact with the pathogen/bacteria to kill it. A larger amount I would think maybe would have a bigger impact - especially on an empty stomach. Probably not on a full one though...Dee Sent from my iPad > On 22 Aug 2015, at 13:05, Kirsteen Wright > wrote: > > I'm curious. Are you saying that ingesting it through the day would not > interfere with the microbiome whereas taking it all at once would? > > Cheers > Kirsteen > >> On 22 Aug 2015 12:27, "Dee" wrote: >> Especially all forms of fructose! White sugar is actually better than >> fructose because it is made up of glucose - which the body can handle - and >> fructose - which the body can't. Most processed food contains HFCS (high >> fructose corn syrup) even bread etc., which the liver just can't metabolise >> and is probably the biggest cause of most disease today. The CS would have >> been ingested throughout the day I would imagine, in case of interfering >> with the microbiomeDee >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> > On 22 Aug 2015, at 11:48, RaVen wrote: >> > >> > When drinking a pint of CS a day -- it's in small doses all through out - >> > correct? How much is safe to drink every so hours? >> > Secondly, curious - when stating no sugar - does this mean white sugar >> > only - or all forms of fructose? >> > >> > >> > >> > On Aug 22, 2015, at 3:41 AM, Dee wrote: >> > >> > Broccoli, probiotics, Parent Essential Oils (not fish oils - see Brian >> > Peskin) Vitamin D3 and Vitamin K2, iodine, have all been mentioned as >> > anti-cancer agents. A friend of mines husband beat breast cancer using >> > such things, and also drinking a pint of CS a day.also eating NO sugar >> > as this feeds cancer. Maybe something like Serrapeptase as well would >> > help.Dee >> > >> > Sent from my iPad >> > >> >> On 22 Aug 2015, at 05:35, Janice Rutledge wrote: >> >> >> >> Anyone know anything about Colloidal Silver and cancer. I am looking for >> >> effective ways to overcome cancer as well as conventional methods. >> >> >> >> Janice. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. >> >> Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org >> >> >> >> Unsubscribe: >> >> <mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe> >> >> Archives: >> >> http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html >> >> >> >> Off-Topic discussions: <mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com> >> >> List Owner: Mike Devour <mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com> >> >
Re: CS>CS and cancer treatment
Especially all forms of fructose! White sugar is actually better than fructose because it is made up of glucose - which the body can handle - and fructose - which the body can't. Most processed food contains HFCS (high fructose corn syrup) even bread etc., which the liver just can't metabolise and is probably the biggest cause of most disease today. The CS would have been ingested throughout the day I would imagine, in case of interfering with the microbiomeDee Sent from my iPad > On 22 Aug 2015, at 11:48, RaVen wrote: > > When drinking a pint of CS a day -- it's in small doses all through out - > correct? How much is safe to drink every so hours? > Secondly, curious - when stating no sugar - does this mean white sugar only - > or all forms of fructose? > > > > On Aug 22, 2015, at 3:41 AM, Dee wrote: > > Broccoli, probiotics, Parent Essential Oils (not fish oils - see Brian > Peskin) Vitamin D3 and Vitamin K2, iodine, have all been mentioned as > anti-cancer agents. A friend of mines husband beat breast cancer using such > things, and also drinking a pint of CS a day.also eating NO sugar as this > feeds cancer. Maybe something like Serrapeptase as well would help.Dee > > Sent from my iPad > >> On 22 Aug 2015, at 05:35, Janice Rutledge wrote: >> >> Anyone know anything about Colloidal Silver and cancer. I am looking for >> effective ways to overcome cancer as well as conventional methods. >> >> Janice. >> >> -- >> The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. >> Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org >> >> Unsubscribe: >> <mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe> >> Archives: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html >> >> Off-Topic discussions: <mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com> >> List Owner: Mike Devour <mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com> >
Re: CS>CS and cancer treatment
I believe he injects it into the tumoursDee Sent from my iPad > On 22 Aug 2015, at 09:40, Isa M wrote: > > Look at Simoncini Tullio - an oncologist who treats cancer with sodium > bicarbonate. He removed my breast tumor with his method > http://www.curenaturalicancro.com/en/ > You can also look at Biosuperfood BAC (Bio algae concentrate) formula F3+ - > which will certainly help. . > . > > 2015-08-22 10:09 GMT+02:00 Dee : >> Baking soda has had success when injected into tumours but to take it orally >> is not good because it neutralises stomach acid which would prevent the >> proper absorption of nutrients - which is not a wise thing to doDee >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On 22 Aug 2015, at 08:54, Smitty wrote: >>> >>> Google baking soda and molasses >>> Smitty >>> >>>> On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 9:41 PM, Dee wrote: >>>> Broccoli, probiotics, Parent Essential Oils (not fish oils - see Brian >>>> Peskin) Vitamin D3 and Vitamin K2, iodine, have all been mentioned as >>>> anti-cancer agents. A friend of mines husband beat breast cancer using >>>> such things, and also drinking a pint of CS a day.also eating NO sugar >>>> as this feeds cancer. Maybe something like Serrapeptase as well would >>>> help.Dee >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPad >>>> >>>> > On 22 Aug 2015, at 05:35, Janice Rutledge wrote: >>>> > >>>> > Anyone know anything about Colloidal Silver and cancer. I am looking >>>> > for effective ways to overcome cancer as well as conventional methods. >>>> > >>>> > Janice. >>>> > >>>> > -- >>>> > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. >>>> > Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org >>>> > >>>> > Unsubscribe: >>>> > <mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe> >>>> > Archives: >>>> > http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html >>>> > >>>> > Off-Topic discussions: <mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com> >>>> > List Owner: Mike Devour <mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com> >>>> > >>>> > >
Re: CS>CS and cancer treatment
Baking soda has had success when injected into tumours but to take it orally is not good because it neutralises stomach acid which would prevent the proper absorption of nutrients - which is not a wise thing to doDee Sent from my iPad > On 22 Aug 2015, at 08:54, Smitty wrote: > > Google baking soda and molasses > Smitty > >> On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 9:41 PM, Dee wrote: >> Broccoli, probiotics, Parent Essential Oils (not fish oils - see Brian >> Peskin) Vitamin D3 and Vitamin K2, iodine, have all been mentioned as >> anti-cancer agents. A friend of mines husband beat breast cancer using such >> things, and also drinking a pint of CS a day.also eating NO sugar as >> this feeds cancer. Maybe something like Serrapeptase as well would >> help.Dee >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> > On 22 Aug 2015, at 05:35, Janice Rutledge wrote: >> > >> > Anyone know anything about Colloidal Silver and cancer. I am looking for >> > effective ways to overcome cancer as well as conventional methods. >> > >> > Janice. >> > >> > -- >> > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. >> > Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org >> > >> > Unsubscribe: >> > <mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe> >> > Archives: >> > http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html >> > >> > Off-Topic discussions: <mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com> >> > List Owner: Mike Devour <mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com> >> > >> > >
Re: CS>CS and cancer treatment
Broccoli, probiotics, Parent Essential Oils (not fish oils - see Brian Peskin) Vitamin D3 and Vitamin K2, iodine, have all been mentioned as anti-cancer agents. A friend of mines husband beat breast cancer using such things, and also drinking a pint of CS a day.also eating NO sugar as this feeds cancer. Maybe something like Serrapeptase as well would help.Dee Sent from my iPad > On 22 Aug 2015, at 05:35, Janice Rutledge wrote: > > Anyone know anything about Colloidal Silver and cancer. I am looking for > effective ways to overcome cancer as well as conventional methods. > > Janice. > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org > > Unsubscribe: > <mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe> > Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html > > Off-Topic discussions: <mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com> > List Owner: Mike Devour <mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com> > >
Re: CS>Thyroid Nodules
Yes but not for auto- immune diseases I believeDee Sent from my iPad > On 17 Aug 2015, at 13:59, Ron wrote: > > I have not followed all of this. Excuse me if I am duplicating. > Years ago I read that the thyroid and breast compete for iodine and that > breast cancer was mostly due to to low iodine. > > "Taking Thyroid Hormone Increases Breast Cancer Risk By 200%" > http://healthimpactnews.com/2014/taking-thyroid-hormone-increases-breast-cancer-risk-by-200/ > > Ron > > > >> On 8/17/2015 4:53 AM, RaVen wrote: >> Yes, as Hashimoto's patient myself - Iodine made me feel worse. You can >> read Dr K's reasons for not giving iodine to his patient. Please note that >> Hashimoto's is NOT hypothyroidism with a lot of people get mixed up. >> >> https://drknews.com/search/iodine >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Aug 17, 2015, at 4:02 AM, Dee wrote: >> >> I had read somewhere that iodine can - in some instances - be detrimental to >> the thyroid. I think it may have been in the presence of Hashimotos. Does >> anyone know if this is correct? I know that the thyroid usually needs >> iodineDee >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On 16 Aug 2015, at 22:12, Lola Harris wrote: >>> >>> Hi, Patricia. No, iodine will not replace thyroid extract or synthetic >>> thyroid >>> meds if you need them. I do think (just my opinion) that someone who is >>> barely >>> hypo (underactive thyroid), can perhaps avoid having to take thyroid m -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: <mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe> Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: <mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com> List Owner: Mike Devour <mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com>
Re: CS>Thyroid Nodules
Sent from my iPad > On 17 Aug 2015, at 13:59, Ron wrote: > > I have not followed all of this. Excuse me if I am duplicating. > Years ago I read that the thyroid and breast compete for iodine and that > breast cancer was mostly due to to low iodine. > > "Taking Thyroid Hormone Increases Breast Cancer Risk By 200%" > http://healthimpactnews.com/2014/taking-thyroid-hormone-increases-breast-cancer-risk-by-200/ > > Ron > > > >> On 8/17/2015 4:53 AM, RaVen wrote: >> Yes, as Hashimoto's patient myself - Iodine made me feel worse. You can >> read Dr K's reasons for not giving iodine to his patient. Please note that >> Hashimoto's is NOT hypothyroidism with a lot of people get mixed up. >> >> https://drknews.com/search/iodine >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Aug 17, 2015, at 4:02 AM, Dee wrote: >> >> I had read somewhere that iodine can - in some instances - be detrimental to >> the thyroid. I think it may have been in the presence of Hashimotos. Does >> anyone know if this is correct? I know that the thyroid usually needs >> iodineDee >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On 16 Aug 2015, at 22:12, Lola Harris wrote: >>> >>> Hi, Patricia. No, iodine will not replace thyroid extract or synthetic >>> thyroid >>> meds if you need them. I do think (just my opinion) that someone who is >>> barely >>> hypo (underactive thyroid), can perhaps avoid having to take thyroid m -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: <mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe> Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: <mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com> List Owner: Mike Devour <mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com>
Re: CS>Thyroid Nodules
I had read somewhere that iodine can - in some instances - be detrimental to the thyroid. I think it may have been in the presence of Hashimotos. Does anyone know if this is correct? I know that the thyroid usually needs iodineDee Sent from my iPad > On 16 Aug 2015, at 22:12, Lola Harris wrote: > > Hi, Patricia. No, iodine will not replace thyroid extract or synthetic > thyroid > meds if you need them. I do think (just my opinion) that someone who is > barely > hypo (underactive thyroid), can perhaps avoid having to take thyroid meds or > can > avoid becoming more hypo by optimizing the health of their thyroid. Selenium > is > also good (along with cofactors of Vit C and magnesium and sea salt) when > taking > iodine. > > If you have been taking iodine for 4 yrs now, then you have gotten past all > the > detox that iodine supplementation can sometimes bring on from ingested > fluorides, > bromines and chlorides. That is good. You may not think that the iodine is > doing > anything but it is. > > I am totally inexperienced with thyroid nodules, goiters, etc. since I have > never > had those problems. If your thyroid isn't performing optimally tho, that > could well > explain your low immune system. Thyroid affects and impacts so many things > in the > body. > > You might want to think about joining the yahoo group,'Natural Thyroid > Hormones' on Yahoo. They cover all the thyroid supplements, not just the NDT > extract and they have very knowledgeable moderators. They are on hiatus until > Tuesday but I would encourage you to consider joining the group if you aren't > already a member. > > Having your doctor run some blood tests on your thyroid (if you haven't run > them > already) will be very helpful in seeing what is going on. The STTM website is > an excellent resource for which tests to run. The STTM stands for 'Stop The > Thyroid Madness'. http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/recommended-labwork/ > Lola > > - Original Message - > From: Patricia > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Sent: Sun, 16 Aug 2015 16:04:40 -0400 (EDT) > Subject: Re: CS>Thyroid Nodules > > I take Lodoral (lugos tablet form) It is Iodine 5mg and Iodide 7.5mg for > a total of 12.5 mg. I've been taking it for about 4 years. > I can't tell it does anything. I take it because i have low immunity > and see to catch everything. Doing allergy testing now ..so maybe that > will help my immune system. > > >> On 8/16/2015 2:57 PM, Lola Harris wrote: >> Patricia.. not sure what you are asking? Iodine is a mineral that our body >> requires just like chromium, copper, zinc even vitamins. It is taken >> up, preferentially, first by the thyroid, then by the sex organs, then by >> the rest of the body. >> >> What dose are you on and when did you start taking the iodine? >> Lola >> - Original Message - >> From: Patricia >> To: silver-list@eskimo.com >> Sent: Sun, 16 Aug 2015 15:19:10 -0400 (EDT) >> Subject: Re: CS>Thyroid Nodules >> >> I have to get educated on this so forgive my question: Does Lugols in >> liquid or tablet form provide what is needed ? >> >>> On 8/16/2015 12:57 PM, Lola Harris wrote: >>> Raven... I am also a real believer and fan of NDT since it was such a >>> stunning success for >>> me in resolving so many hypo issues that I had, issues that Synthroid >>> seemed to just exacerbate. >>> I might add that I have no iron or adrenal issues so stabilizing on NDT was >>> very easy for >>> me to do. >>> Io >>> However, there are some folks who don't do well on NDT (natural desiccated >>> thyroid >>> (brand names such as Armour and Naturethroid) and do well on >>> Synthroid/synthetic T 4. >>> I can't convert t 4 to t 3 and so, have to have the natural NDT product. >>> My sister, >>> on the other hand, has done fabulously on Synthroid since the eighties and >>> had all >>> kinds of problems with NDT when she tried to take it a few years back at my >>> urging. >>> But she does have hashis and I don't. The compounded product can be >>> another option >>> for hypo sufferers since the fillers/additives in the commercial brands can >>> be >>> problematic for some and this alternative gives them some control over that >>> aspect. >>> >>> Here is an article that might be helpful to some in explaining why it is so >>> difficult >>> to be a 'purist' in th
Re: CS>CS in nebulizer
I have a Medisana which seems good. I got it on Amazon and have had it for years...Dee Sent from my iPad > On 13 Aug 2015, at 22:39, Melisse Gamache wrote: > > Hi! I am looking for ultrasonic nebulizer machine. Do you know any good > machine and made in USA? > > Thanks, > Melisse > >> On Aug 13, 2015 2:10 PM, "Theresa" wrote: >> I nebulize it full strength. A bit irritating if you take a deep breath >> through your mouth. I take slow deep breaths through my nose. >> T >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Aug 13, 2015, at 2:34 PM, Isa M wrote: >>> >>> Thank you Lena! >>> >>> >>> 2015-08-13 21:15 GMT+02:00 Lena Guyot : >>>> Here's a site about DMSO: dimethylsulfoxide-d...@yahoogroups.com >>>>> On Aug 13, 2015, at 12:38 PM, Isa M wrote: >>>>> >>>> >>>>> Thank you ! >>>>> >>>>> I started today. Kitty in his transport box, cover it and nebulize 10pp >>>>> CS into it from a small compressor, for few minutes. . Easy, no stress. >>>>> Will do that until mucus and cough gone. >>>>> I also mix some CS into in food, wipe his eyes and nose with tissue >>>>> sprayed with CS. . >>>>> Already seems better. Pretty bad bronchitis after a surgery and a course >>>>> of antibiotics which have weakened his immune system. >>>>> I cross fingers it will be all gone very soon. >>>>> >>>>> I avoid ultrasonic systems because of bad frequencies. .Bad frequencies >>>>> may even turn your CS bitter.. . >>>>> >>>>> Instead you can put healing frequencies into the water you make your CS >>>>> from. >>>>> >>>>> See fabulous Dr Emoto's water crystals work and pictures! >>>>> >>>>> Ps: could somebody tell me what is DMSO please? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 2015-08-13 16:51 GMT+02:00 Lena Guyot : >>>>>> Hi Isa, >>>>>> I routinely use my Silver-Puppy-generated CS, straight, in my little >>>>>> nebulizer, for both my own and my dog's URIs. I just hold him to my >>>>>> chest and let the mist drift down across his nose. He usually tolerates >>>>>> it and it really helps. Cats, being so different than dogs, might be a >>>>>> completely different situation. >>>>>> >>>>>> Be well, >>>>>> Léna >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Aug 13, 2015, at 7:24 AM, Isa M wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi is anybody have used CS in nebulizer? Which dilution? >>>>>>> To use for my cat with FHV and bronchitis. >>>>>>> Thank you!. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>
Re: CS>? on eye pressure
Who are we talking about here, as I seem to have lost track? I thought Lena gave a reasonable answerDee Sent from my iPad > On 12 Aug 2015, at 01:33, Deborah Gerard wrote: > > Why do you bother being in the group if you don't want to share what you have > found with others that are seeking solutions...if your so burdened shut off > the whole world and keep all you findings to your selfish self. > I am very thankful to those here that don't think I am a burden because I am > seeking relief from suffering for my friends and myself to in turn gladly > share with anyone that is seeking help...I don't see that as a burden. It's > called compassion you should try it sometime!! > > > > On Tuesday, August 11, 2015 6:48 PM, Lena Guyot wrote: > > > Of course! It's just nice to start with one's own efforts before taxing > online efforts of others. Many are struggling in their own fight and haven't > time to provide basics that are readily available. > I finally realized this when I had to seriously limit time spent on a > computer with difficult eye issues straining eyes, posture, etc.. > > And as people recover from serious illness, with a lot of 'normal' healthy > time already lost, they also have a lot of catching up on their own lives. > After 9 years of painstakingly coaching scared newbies with health issues, I > hope others may fill my shoes, as time grows short, energy limited, and other > things are calling to be done. > > Be well, > Léna >> On Aug 11, 2015, at 1:41 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote: >> >> I thought part of the homework was asking people in the group? >> >> >> >> On Tuesday, August 11, 2015 9:52 AM, Lena Guyot wrote: >> >> >> Google can be helpful if one uses it for consensus. >> If enough places cite the validity of something, chances are better that >> it's useful. >> Most of us do a LOT of homework to heal ourselves. >> The only things I know about eye pressure are the following: >> >> If the Iris is at a narrow angle to the cornea, and there's a sudden >> dilation, either from going from sunlight to darkness, or chemical dilation, >> a condition called acute angle glaucoma can result with fairly dire >> consequences within hours. Many people require iridotomies before dilation >> for safety to allow pressures to equalize. >> >> After cataract surgery, it is recommended that one not bend over to the >> point where the eye is below the heart to minimize pressure in eye, and not >> to lift anything over 20lb, for the same reason. >> >> Be well, >> Léna >> >>> On Aug 10, 2015, at 8:45 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote: >>> >>> I know I can google just about anything but who knows what site is >>> truthful...I trust peoples comments here better. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Monday, August 10, 2015 8:28 PM, Lola Harris >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> I have never heard of CS helping with glaucoma either. >>> Guess someone could google for information on alternatives >>> to treat glaucoma? >>> Lola >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: Marshall >>> To: silver-list@eskimo.com >>> Sent: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 20:23:04 -0400 (EDT) >>> Subject: Re: CS>? on eye pressure >>> >>> >>> I believe you are talking about glaucoma. CS will not help with it >>> as far as I know. >>> >>> >>> Marshall >>> >>> >>> On 8/10/2015 2:06 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote: >>> Hello everyone, >>> >>> Can I please >>> get you to advise on a friend who is trying to keep eye >>> pressure down? Will CS help with this? I read that Echinacea >>> drops are helpful in drainage. >>> Thanks so >>> much in advance, >>> >>> Debbie >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > >
Re: CS>Eye wash
I was plagued with blepharitis in the eye but a few applications of VCO on my face and eyelids got rid of it completely - also I no longer suffer with dry eye...Dee Sent from my iPad > On 15 Jul 2015, at 15:31, Ron wrote: > > The supplier of her equipment csprosystems.com says: > "Uses our exclusive "Baking Soda" Calibration Solution - Baking Soda does NOT > react with silver (like salt)! > ALKALINE CS (pH = 7.2-7.5) which is better for maintaining the "pH Balance" > of the body!" > > Expensive but very very fast. > Ron > > > >> On 7/14/2015 10:56 PM, Neville wrote: >> Don't seem to be able to find N Bernsten's original post so will mention it >> here. >> >> I have to ask...Why would you be adding baking soda to your brewing process? >> >> N. >> >> Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2015 00:13:14 -0400 >> From: phoenix23...@tds.net >> To: silver-list@eskimo.com >> Subject: Re: CS>Eye wash >> >> I have been spraying CS directly into my eyes for years. Usually when >> someone around me has a cold/flu and one particular >> occasion when my boss showed up for work with pink eye. Golly that was >> weird. Don't know about the baking soda tho. >> I don't know how the eye application would apply with that in the mix. >> Lola >> >> - Original Message - >> From: N Berntsen >> To: Silver-List >> Sent: Tue, 14 Jul 2015 23:25:23 -0400 (EDT) >> Subject: CS>Eye wash >> >> I am considering using CS to dab or wipe the edges of my eyelids which are a >> bit irritated by seasonal allergies. I was thinking I would use a couple >> cotton balls or pads with CS poured onto them, one for each eye. >> >> Any suggestions, comments or experience with this? Any known >> contraindications? >> >> (My CS is made with steam distilled water and a small amount of concentrated >> baking soda solution and a generator from csprosystems.com) > > > > > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > www.avast.com > >
Re: CS>Picc Line?
Hi Patricia, I do tooDee Sent from my iPad > On 19 Jun 2015, at 14:47, Patricia wrote: > > Dee, it seems like it would but I would not use it in an IV. I just think > that is dangerous ground. Inhalation gets into your system very effectively. > dunno I'm not an > expert. I love the CS and have used for a long time. I have the silver > puppy from Ode and it is awesome. > >> On 6/19/2015 3:00 AM, Dee wrote: >> But wouldn't it be sterile Because the silver is in it? After all, that is >> what we all use it for ie to kill almost all known single celled >> pathogensDee >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On 19 Jun 2015, at 02:09, Theresa wrote: >> >>> Sterile means no microbes, bacteria are in the solution. The water we use >>> is not sterile, it's distilled. Don't know where to get sterile distilled >>> water. Then the silver is not sterile. The bottle you put it in is not >>> sterile. >>> You need a source of sterile silver solution prescribed by a physician. DO >>> NOT inject anything in your pic line not prescribed. You are playing w fire >>> and potentially exposing yourself to serious infection. >>> Using it in a neb is consider safer. The silver gets into the bloodstream >>> there without risk of systemic infection. >>> T >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Jun 18, 2015, at 7:55 PM, Reece Maxey wrote: >>> >>>> Would you please explain what you mean by "not sterile"? >>>> Opa >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPad >>>> >>>> On Jun 18, 2015, at 7:32 PM, Theresa wrote: >>>> >>>>> Silver we make is not sterile. There are some doctors treating Lyme >>>>> disease w IV silver. Need to figure out how to sterilize it or get it >>>>> sterile. >>>>> T >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> On Jun 18, 2015, at 7:17 PM, Lola Harris wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I agree with Patricia. Inhaling and consuming the cs should be >>>>>> effective. >>>>>> What are you trying to do? I don't think I have ever heard of cs being >>>>>> used by IV. Maybe it has but I haven't read/heard about it. >>>>>> Lola >>>>>> >>>>>> - Original Message - >>>>>> From: Patricia >>>>>> To: silver-list@eskimo.com >>>>>> Sent: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 19:02:49 -0400 (EDT) >>>>>> Subject: Re: CS>Picc Line? >>>>>> >>>>>> I would sure want to trust who made >>>>>> it.. Know it was made with distilled water and bottle not >>>>>> contaminated from other uses. >>>>>> >>>>>> I would not be comfortable injecting itto picc line. I would use >>>>>> it in a nebulizer and inhale it. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 6/18/2015 5:50 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote: >>>>>> This is a >>>>>> question posted at another group that I am in...calling on >>>>>> the smart people here. >>>>>> >>>>>> Is the >>>>>> Silver still sterile and safe to be injected into my Picc >>>>>> line? And is the remaining Silver in the bottle safe to use >>>>>> again for more IV? Hoping someone will be able to help. Thanks >>>>>> in advance. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks folks, >>>>>> Debbie >
Re: CS>Picc Line?
But wouldn't it be sterile Because the silver is in it? After all, that is what we all use it for ie to kill almost all known single celled pathogens....Dee Sent from my iPad > On 19 Jun 2015, at 02:09, Theresa wrote: > > Sterile means no microbes, bacteria are in the solution. The water we use is > not sterile, it's distilled. Don't know where to get sterile distilled water. > Then the silver is not sterile. The bottle you put it in is not sterile. > You need a source of sterile silver solution prescribed by a physician. DO > NOT inject anything in your pic line not prescribed. You are playing w fire > and potentially exposing yourself to serious infection. > Using it in a neb is consider safer. The silver gets into the bloodstream > there without risk of systemic infection. > T > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jun 18, 2015, at 7:55 PM, Reece Maxey wrote: >> >> Would you please explain what you mean by "not sterile"? >> Opa >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On Jun 18, 2015, at 7:32 PM, Theresa wrote: >>> >>> Silver we make is not sterile. There are some doctors treating Lyme disease >>> w IV silver. Need to figure out how to sterilize it or get it sterile. >>> T >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Jun 18, 2015, at 7:17 PM, Lola Harris wrote: >>>> >>>> I agree with Patricia. Inhaling and consuming the cs should be effective. >>>> What are you trying to do? I don't think I have ever heard of cs being >>>> used by IV. Maybe it has but I haven't read/heard about it. >>>> Lola >>>> >>>> - Original Message - >>>> From: Patricia >>>> To: silver-list@eskimo.com >>>> Sent: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 19:02:49 -0400 (EDT) >>>> Subject: Re: CS>Picc Line? >>>> >>>> I would sure want to trust who made >>>> it.. Know it was made with distilled water and bottle not >>>> contaminated from other uses. >>>> >>>> I would not be comfortable injecting itto picc line. I would use >>>> it in a nebulizer and inhale it. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 6/18/2015 5:50 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote: >>>> This is a >>>> question posted at another group that I am in...calling on >>>> the smart people here. >>>> >>>> Is the >>>> Silver still sterile and safe to be injected into my Picc >>>> line? And is the remaining Silver in the bottle safe to use >>>> again for more IV? Hoping someone will be able to help. Thanks >>>> in advance. >>>> >>>> Thanks folks, >>>> Debbie >>>> >>>> >>>>
Re: CS>Bladder cancer?
I always add lemon to my veggie juiceDee Sent from my iPad > On 18 Jun 2015, at 16:41, Lena Guyot wrote: > > Actually, if you put a lemon, (minus its seeds and stem nub) in a > nutri-bullet or blender, and whirl it until it's completely liquified, it > makes a very 'grown-up' lemonade. You can add a little stevia to it if you > think it's too bitter, but it's very refreshing and good for you. > Be well, > Léna >> On Jun 18, 2015, at 10:45 AM, moxaman wrote: >> >> It’s my understanding that most of the limonoids are found in the white part >> of the inner rind. I’d also rinse with a little water after eating lemons >> as the acids can corrode the enamel on your teeth. Due to the high mineral >> content of lemons they actually make your body more alkaline. >> >> From: ASL raVen >> Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 6:58 AM >> To: Silver-List >> Subject: Re: CS>Bladder cancer? >> >> Do one need to eat the skin, rind and pulp of lemons? >> >>> On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 9:16 AM, moxaman wrote: >>> Limonoids found in lemons are said to be effective for bladder cancer and >>> infections. You might want to research this. All you need are one or two >>> lemons daily. >>> >>> From: Gmail >>> Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 5:48 PM >>> To: silver-list@eskimo.com >>> Subject: Re: CS>Bladder cancer? >>> >>> I had forgotten oxygen therapy. I have two friends with hyperbaric chambers. >>> I have books on oxygen therapy. I Have two ozone generators for air >>> cleaning. >>> Sometimes when one is 69 the mind cannot concentrate and an outside opinion >>> is welcome. >>> >>> >>> >>> A man with a gun can rob a bank. A man with a bank can rob the whole world! >>> Anon >>> >>>> On Jun 17, 2015, at 6:46 PM, Phil Morrison >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Here's a cancer backgrounder based on Pres. Reagan's cancer. >>>> >>>> http://www.alsearsmd.com/landing/MB_NaturalNews_CC_Reagan_20150608.html?utm_source=natural-news&utm_medium=mb&utm_term=solo-email&utm_content=buyer&utm_campaign=reagan-20150608 >>>> >>>> Dr. Neiper, Reagan's doctor, used Magnesium Orotate. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> My Google Voice Text # is (720) 442-8725 >> Quote: >> There is no luck except where there is discipline. >> >> Irish proverb >
Re: CS>Minerals for a healthy body
Much better. It's not a good idea to take minerals as separate supplements because selenium can be toxic and you can cause an imbalance which would create more problems.....Dee Sent from my iPad > On 7 Jun 2015, at 18:06, Lena Guyot wrote: > > If you can handle nuts, it's said that 2 Brazil nuts per day will provide you > with required selenium. > Be well, > Léna >> On Jun 7, 2015, at 11:12 AM, Phil Morrison wrote: >> >> >> Kelly, >> >> The organic forms of selenium are best like >> selenomethionine. >> >> Inorganic forms, like sodium selenate or selenite, >> are pretty much a waste of money. >
Re: CS>Feral cats
It is totally safe and can even be given neat for a whileDee Sent from my iPad > On 9 May 2015, at 12:44, Sam wrote: > > Hello to all! > > Finally received our Silver Puppy! We are CS newbies and have a colony of > feral cats which we've occasionally heard hacking (upper respiratory?). They > drink from one big glass water bowl. > > We'd like to add CS to their water but are concerned as 2 of them are nursing > their kittens. Is it safe for these moms to be drinking it too? How long and > how much should be added? Could it be added on a daily basis infinitely or do > it on a schedule? Many other ferals come through, besides "our" colony which > live in a "condominium complex". > > Thank you! > Sam > >
Re: CS>Selenium
I'm so sorry RaVen I hope you find something that works soon...Dee Sent from my iPad > On 30 Apr 2015, at 12:39, RaVen wrote: > > Hi Dee, > Yes, I tried low-dose Naltrexone for Hashimoto's for a month and > disappointedly, my body reacted negatively to it. I'm real sensitive to > synthetic drugs apparently. > > RaVen > > > On Apr 30, 2015, at 4:26 AM, Dee wrote: > > Oh yes it does - which is one of the reasons I take it. Have you tried > low-dose Naltrexone for Hashimotos? I have read of people having really good > results with this. It is not the ordinary Naltrexone it is the low dose > form.Dee > > Sent from my iPad > >> On 29 Apr 2015, at 19:56, RaVen wrote: >> >> Does the sea green supplement you take have iodine in it? Cannot ingest that >> with Hashimoto's. >> >> -- >> The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. >> Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org >> >> Unsubscribe: >> <mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe> >> Archives: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html >> >> Off-Topic discussions: <mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com> >> List Owner: Mike Devour <mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com> >
Re: CS>Selenium
Oh yes it does - which is one of the reasons I take it. Have you tried low-dose Naltrexone for Hashimotos? I have read of people having really good results with this. It is not the ordinary Naltrexone it is the low dose form.Dee Sent from my iPad > On 29 Apr 2015, at 19:56, RaVen wrote: > > Does the sea green supplement you take have iodine in it? Cannot ingest that > with Hashimoto's. > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org > > Unsubscribe: > <mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe> > Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html > > Off-Topic discussions: <mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com> > List Owner: Mike Devour <mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com> > >
Re: CS>Selenium
I would think the nutritional content would be more important and don't see that rice (carbohydrate) would be that beneficial if used exclusively- even with herbs...sea vegetables are renowned for their nutritional benefits and I for one, have greatly benefited from Seagreens, which are capsules by the way...Dee Sent from my iPad > On 29 Apr 2015, at 13:58, PT Ferrance wrote: > > Hi Dee, > See vegetation is extremely cold and raw vegetables are also cold. Digestion > is a fermenting process so eating things that are close to body > temperature... physically and thermodynamically... is important. That way it > doesn't cost the body the energy it would need to use to bring whatever it is > to the optimum temperature. In Oriental Medicine we like warm congee (rice > gruel) cooked with herbs. > PT > From: Dee > To: "silver-list@eskimo.com" > Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2015 4:00 AM > Subject: Re: CS>Selenium > > Hi PT I think the best way to absorb all necessary vitamins and minerals if > you have a compromised system, is to take a good seaweed supplement such as > Seagreens. This way, you get everything in a bioavailable form and - most > importantly - it is all balanced and so avoiding the pitfall of having too > much rather than too little of anything - which can be disastrous. Also > juicing vegetables using all different kinds is excellentDee > > Sent from my iPad > > > >> On 28 Apr 2015, at 22:31, PT Ferrance wrote: >> >> As long as you have the digestive system and metabolism to absorb it. Some >> of us don't. >> PT >> From: Léna >> To: "silver-list@eskimo.com" >> Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 8:42 AM >> Subject: Re: CS>Selenium >> >> Two brazil nuts can provide a healthy, daily dose of selenium, and are more >> enjoyable than taking a pill. >> Be well, >> Lena >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> >> >>> On Apr 28, 2015, at 7:05 AM, V wrote: >>> >>> Selenium is also something you are dependent in buying along with all the >>> other recommended supplements you really have to pick and choose or spend a >>> rather large amount of money each month to maintain. So I do pick and >>> choose and even IF it is a preferable to use selenium over silver >>> solutions, I can make it and use it cheaply. >>> >>> The fact that I can plant a seed and it becomes a flower, share a bit of >>> knowledge and it becomes another's, smile at someone and receive a smile in >>> return, are to me continual spiritual exercises. >>> Leo Buscaglia >>> >>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 1:50 AM, Dee wrote: >>> Trouble is, selenium is highly toxic in bigger than micro dosesDee >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>>> On 28 Apr 2015, at 03:55, Phil Morrison wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Y'all are aware of the anti-inflammatory, anti-pathogen, and tumor >>>> suppressing properties of nanoparticle silver, but may not know that >>>> selenium also performs these functions. Plus, selenium is the essential >>>> mineral co-factor in converting amino acids into proteins. As Dr. Olree >>>> sums up in "Minerals for the Genetic Code" ... "Every form of cancer is a >>>> child of selenium deficiency." > >
Re: CS>Selenium
Hi PT I think the best way to absorb all necessary vitamins and minerals if you have a compromised system, is to take a good seaweed supplement such as Seagreens. This way, you get everything in a bioavailable form and - most importantly - it is all balanced and so avoiding the pitfall of having too much rather than too little of anything - which can be disastrous. Also juicing vegetables using all different kinds is excellentDee Sent from my iPad > On 28 Apr 2015, at 22:31, PT Ferrance wrote: > > As long as you have the digestive system and metabolism to absorb it. Some > of us don't. > PT > From: Léna > To: "silver-list@eskimo.com" > Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 8:42 AM > Subject: Re: CS>Selenium > > Two brazil nuts can provide a healthy, daily dose of selenium, and are more > enjoyable than taking a pill. > Be well, > Lena > > Sent from my iPad > > > >> On Apr 28, 2015, at 7:05 AM, V wrote: >> >> Selenium is also something you are dependent in buying along with all the >> other recommended supplements you really have to pick and choose or spend a >> rather large amount of money each month to maintain. So I do pick and choose >> and even IF it is a preferable to use selenium over silver solutions, I can >> make it and use it cheaply. >> >> The fact that I can plant a seed and it becomes a flower, share a bit of >> knowledge and it becomes another's, smile at someone and receive a smile in >> return, are to me continual spiritual exercises. >> Leo Buscaglia >> >> On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 1:50 AM, Dee wrote: >> Trouble is, selenium is highly toxic in bigger than micro dosesDee >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On 28 Apr 2015, at 03:55, Phil Morrison wrote: >>> >>> >>> Y'all are aware of the anti-inflammatory, anti-pathogen, and tumor >>> suppressing properties of nanoparticle silver, but may not know that >>> selenium also performs these functions. Plus, selenium is the essential >>> mineral co-factor in converting amino acids into proteins. As Dr. Olree >>> sums up in "Minerals for the Genetic Code" ... "Every form of cancer is a >>> child of selenium deficiency." > >
Re: CS>Selenium
Trouble is, selenium is highly toxic in bigger than micro dosesDee Sent from my iPad > On 28 Apr 2015, at 03:55, Phil Morrison wrote: > > > Y'all are aware of the anti-inflammatory, anti-pathogen, and tumor > suppressing properties of nanoparticle silver, but may not know that selenium > also performs these functions. Plus, selenium is the essential mineral > co-factor in converting amino acids into proteins. As Dr. Olree sums up in > "Minerals for the Genetic Code" ... "Every form of cancer is a child of > selenium deficiency." > >
Re: CS>Me, My Infection and Connecting with Ode
I swear by oil of oregano and it is supposed to be very beneficial to the gut...Dee Sent from my iPad > On 17 Apr 2015, at 12:04, 2Words <2wordsproduct...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I have NOW oregano oil - which is not bad at all - I'm just not very judicial > when it comes to taking things religiously. Just as needed. It's powerful > stuff but it does have a tendency to erode which is not the best thing when > you're dealing with a delicate gut - but I hear what you're saying. > > Joy > >> On 4/16/2015 1:29 AM, evelyn wrote: >> I would try oregano oil tincture for any infection, and high-quality >> probiotics are important for your own immune system. > -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: <mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe> Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: <mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com> List Owner: Mike Devour <mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com>
Re: CS>Skin Infection and Question
I agree.Dee Sent from my iPad > On 8 Apr 2015, at 13:41, PT Ferrance wrote: > > IMHO the SilverPuppy is the best. You put water in the jar. The apparatus > in the water and turn it on. It turns itself off if you have it set to auto. > It is reasonably priced. Ode is on this list. > How much better can you get than that? > PT > > From: Neville > To: "silver-list@eskimo.com" > Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2015 5:53 AM > Subject: RE: CS>Skin Infection and Question > > Hi there, > > 1. How do you know those pieces of silver you have "laying around" are > 99.99% pure fine silver? > > 2. If it's plug and forget you're thinking about, isn't Ode's a "set and > forget" generator? I haven't got one of his, the Puppy, but am encouraged to > ask why his didn't resonate with you? > > 3. And from a personal viewpoint, I wouldn't be looking at a battery unit. > Others here can attest to the efficiency of Ode's generator, as they will do > I am sure. > > That blurb states 99.999 silver as well, that's five nine silver, I'd be > asking to see the assay report to confirm that those electrodes are five nine > silver as well. > > N. > > > > > From: 2wordsproduct...@gmail.com > > Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2015 10:47:29 +0200 > > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Subject: CS>Skin Infection and Question > > > > Hi, > > > > I seem to have developed a bacterial infection on my leg and am having > > somewhat of a quandry in lieu of being able to obtain CS at the moment > > what to do. I've just made an infusion of herbs and with triple > > antibiotic salve it should make some kind of impact but I do want to > > improve my CS making skills and need some input on what to get. > > > > So I've seen this - > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/GENERATOR-T2-COLLOIDAL-SILVER-SXS-2CV-PRO-KOLLOIDALES-SILBER-GENERATEUR-ARGENT-/221726064065?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_77&hash=item339fe73dc1 > > > > Is it worth the money? The puppy didn't seem to resonate with me when I > > looked at it. I could possibly whip up some CS with my counter-top water > > distiller and the odd pieces of 99.99 I have lying around for now, but > > down the road I want to get something a bit less needing of fussing > > with. Just plug and forget is what I'm after - at a good enough price. > > > > Any thoughts would be very appreciated right now. Just as a side note, > > my leg is pretty infected from JUST one darn scratch due to itching. I > > just went bad right away. Been around some nasty vibes in recent times, > > so it comes as little surprise. Now a regimen of healing is in due order. > > > > Blessings, > > Joy > > > > > > -- > > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org > > > > Unsubscribe: > > <mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe> > > Archives: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html > > > > Off-Topic discussions: <mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com> > > List Owner: Mike Devour <mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com> > > > > > >
Re: CS>Candida/Beck Protocol-quiet list
I think it's another of those things to be approached with caution as it can interfere with blood sugar levels I believe....Dee Sent from my iPad > On 9 Mar 2015, at 04:32, Victor Cozzetto wrote: > > Does anyone here know more about Gymnema Sylvestre or have any experiences > to share? I am very curious, as I never stumbled across it before. A quick > search on the Internet shows tons of information, but I am also interested in > this groups opinions or experiences. > > Victor > >> On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 6:37 AM, Vigilius Haufniensis >> wrote: >> Don't waste your time with other stuff. Get some Gymnema Sylvestre. If you >> want the pill form, get it from Standard Process. >> >>> On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 9:27 AM, Gmail wrote: >>> Since it is quiet, I am suffering from a serious candida infection- >>> systemic. >>> I am using olive leaf extract, CS, VCO, probiotics, and alkaline water. >>> Anyone have any success with a protocol using these or something else? >>> >>> There are no markets anymore-just interventions. --Chris Powell >>> >>>> On Mar 1, 2015, at 10:08 AM, Victor Cozzetto >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hello Everyone, >>>> >>>> Since it is quiet, I figured I would throw this topic out there. I have >>>> only seen a couple of people mention the Beck Protocol here, and so I >>>> would like to mention it again. I noticed that it was curiously absent >>>> from the recent discussion of Rife and other energy therapies. >>>> >>>> In my experience, and to my knowledge, this is the single most effective >>>> protocol that I know of. It is also the protocol that is responsible for >>>> the famed 'immortal' blood. >>>> >>>> CS is one of its four parts, and I have mentioned this protocol before, as >>>> I have seen and experienced its effects. >>>> >>>> I would be curious to know if anyone else on this list has any comments, >>>> experience, or curiosity. As far as I know, there is nothing that cannot >>>> be cured by the Beck Protocol, when it is administered properly. And in >>>> recent years video testimonials have been posted here: >>>> >>>> https://www.youtube.com/user/TheBobBeckProtocol/ >>>> >>>> I know we have lyme disease sufferers on this list, and you will find tons >>>> of information on the web recommending this protocol as a treatment. >>>> >>>> Victor
Re: CS>herpes
But is Hep C the same thing as herpes? Dee Sent from my iPad > On 6 Mar 2015, at 16:26, Olushola Camara wrote: > > You might find this of interest, which was posted on the yahoo coconut oil > group. > Olushola > > I recently was taking WOOO [wild oil of oregano] for Hep C because it's been > said it *easily* removes Hep C, but I had the highest VL [viral load] I ever > remember having in 32 years @ 5.4 million. My AST and ALT did seem to be > lower than usual, at about 123 and 155, possibly because of the WOOO. > > I'm now on a new med called Harvoni for Hep C and my VL was 97 the last I > knew, and my AST an ALT were in the normal range at 28 each (0-44). > > The reason I went for the med is that so many alt therapies rely on anecdotal > evidence, that I wanted something solid, something documented and followed by > bloodwork to chart my progress. I seldom resort to meds but Harvoni is > something that seems to do what many therapies have only dreamed of doing for > decades. > The trouble is with so many alt therapies that claim to eradicate this virus > or that virus is, that you have no plan of action, and no documented people > that cured with it. It's all anecdotal. I've tried many of them and was not a > happy when I found that they did little to nothing for removing my Hep C. I'm > sure many of them helped and they did lower my VL, but as far as actually > eradicating Hep C, that was a false claim. I found out. > > The closest thing I feel I did to eradicate Hep C, IMHO, was BMP [BioMagnetic > Pair] therapy. I had 4 sessions, one per day for 4 days. I flew to Vallejo, > CA for that in Sept 2012 to be seen by the best BMP healer in the USA, Helena > Guerrero. We tried but the best way to get BMP is 1 session per week, but it > was impossible for me to fly out there and back once a week, or to stay in CA > for 3-6 weeks while I got 1 session per week. > I know of another good BMP healer lady in Northern VA, but that's a 6 hour > drive from here, each way, and I felt it would be too tiring for me to > attempt that, so I opted for Havoni. > >> On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 11:40 PM, Lynn wrote: >> Has anyone cured herpes type 1/ and/ or type 2 with silver? Thanks >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >>> Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com >>> From: Ode Coyote >>> Subject: Re: CS>AC voltage >>> Date: March 4, 2015 at 3:12:44 AM PST >>> To: silver-list@eskimo.com >>> Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com >>> >>> 25 volts at 50/60 HZ does not impart enough velocity to the ions to get >>> them far enough away from the electrodes to not be sucked back on when the >>> polarity changes. >>> To use that "SWAP" frequency requires around 1000 volts. >>> Minimum at 25 volts would be around 1 minute between polarity shifts and >>> that will be very slow as it takes around 20 seconds out of a cycle for the >>> electrochemistry to unwind and reverse. >>> 3 minutes goes at about the same rate as DC >>> Anything over a few seconds is very difficult using analog timing circuits, >>> longer is harder and less reliable/accurate. >>> That why I finally went digital. A computer can count infinite >>> milliseconds effortlessly and get it right every time with a 5 minute >>> interval. >>> Ode >>> >>>> On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 11:13 AM, Reece Maxey wrote: >>>> Has anyone used a low, ie 25 volts, AC power source for a CS generator? >>>> Any ideas about posslble success if using? Seems to me it would compare >>>> with the swapping DC method. Thanks. >>>> Opa >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPad >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. >>>> Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org >>>> >>>> Unsubscribe: >>>> <mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe> >>>> Archives: >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html >>>> >>>> Off-Topic discussions: <mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com> >>>> List Owner: Mike Devour <mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com> >
Re: CS>Harold MacDonald has passed
I'm so sorry to hear this.....Dee Sent from my iPad > On 5 Mar 2015, at 17:58, Deborah Gerard wrote: > > > Today at 12:39 PM > Hi Deborah > > I am sending this email to you today to let you know that Harold MacDonald > passed away very suddenly on Sunday, March 1/15. > > We are all going to miss him very much. He was a good Dad, Grandpa and Great > Grandpa to us all. > >
Re: CS>Beck Protocol
Thanks Kirsteen I've just been having a look at them and they look good. I find Amazon is very expensive on a lot of things now....Dee Sent from my iPad > On 3 Mar 2015, at 23:38, Kirsteen Wright > wrote: > > Hi Dee, you can get a good selection of Green pastures cod liver oils from > funkyraw.com. here in the UK. They're a good firm to deal with. Ive used them > a lot. Their prices and postage are the most reasonable I've found. > > Cheers > Kirsteen > >> On 3 Mar 2015 08:52, "Dee" wrote: >> Hi Victor do you know if this is available in the UK only I get the feeling >> the postage will be prohibitive.Dee >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On 3 Mar 2015, at 00:31, Victor Cozzetto wrote: >>> >>> Hi RaVen, >>> >>> You are probably right, although I think I resolved all my nutritional >>> deficiencies for the moment. >>> >>> The most potent superfood that I use is a combination of Fermented Cod >>> Liver Oil (FCLO) and high vitamin Butter Oil (BO). The only source I trust >>> for these items is Green Pasture, which brands their products as 'Blue Ice': >>> >>> greenpasture.org >>> >>> They also have a nice combo product called Infused Coconut Oil: >>> http://www.greenpasture.org/public/Products/InfusedCoconutOil/ >>> >>> If you research, you will notice that trusted distributers around the world >>> are selling these Blue Ice products that are provided by Green Pasture. >>> Dave and Barb Wentzel are supper serious about maintaining the quality and >>> purity of their products. They are heroes in my book. >>> >>> Those are the products that I use when I think I need a 'supplement' for my >>> diet - meaning that I take a small spoonful of the above products two or >>> three of times a day. But I only do that when I think my diet is lacking. I >>> also use their coconut ghee (ghee is basically BO). >>> >>> A similar combination is natto and ghee. These are foods, not supplements, >>> so it can be easier to implement them into your diet (depending on your >>> tastes). There are many different good brands of those products, but you do >>> have to be careful, as there are many bad or fake ghee products these days. >>> Natto is a Japanese food that can be difficult to find (It is fermented >>> soybean). >>> >>> A key point to the above is the nutritional synergy between the products, >>> so they must be taken together to have the maximum impact. For example, >>> cooking natto and eggs in ghee is one way. Taking a spoonful of the Infused >>> Coconut Oil product is another. >>> >>> Another important point is not what we add, but what we remove: No white >>> sugar or white flour if possible. I use Einkorn and Spelt, which I soak and >>> sprout sometimes. Grains block our ability to absorb nutrition, so they >>> must be eliminated or processed properly - fermenting, soaking, souring, >>> sprouting, etc. This is one of the 'secrets' that Weston Price found among >>> all of the 'primitive' people that used grains. >>> >>> OK, so this email is too long. Sorry about that. I will send another about >>> some 'fun' foods that I use to aid my nutrition. >>> >>> Victor >>> >>> >>>> On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 1:48 AM, ASL raVen wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Victor, >>>> I wonder if you have vitamin A deficiency? I learned that Vitamin A is >>>> related to skin issues and teeth issues. >>>> >>>> I read that fibromyalgia could stem from an infected root canal and sure >>>> enough I had a lot of issues with my elbow and shoulder which matched >>>> tooth that I had root canal on - I'm going to have it removed someday and >>>> see how my health improves after that. (also see how it improves the FMS?) >>>> >>>> What are the superfoods you mentioned about? >>>> >>>> RaVen >>>
Re: CS>Beck Protocol
Thank you for the info Victor - much appreciatedDee Sent from my iPad > On 3 Mar 2015, at 23:30, Victor Cozzetto wrote: > > Sorry Dee lol > > Yes, you can get the Green Pasture products from many distributors in the UK. > The best way to find them is to search for 'Blue Ice Code Liver Oil UK' or > similar with 'Blue Ice' in it. You will see many vendors. Or you can go > straight to Amazon.co.uk and do the same search. You will see many products. > > These products have quite a foul taste for most people, which is why capsule > options are popular. However, the oils are much more cost effective. It is > helpful to read all the information on the Green Pasture website to get a > good idea about what to expect. > > Victor > > >> On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 1:10 AM, Dee wrote: >> Hi Victor, I was actually talking about the fermented cod liver oil from >> green pasture.com. I myself have the Autozap and Zappicator which I believe >> is supposedly Hulda Clark.Dee >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On 3 Mar 2015, at 13:31, Victor Cozzetto wrote: >>> >>> Hi Dee, >>> >>> I have struggled myself with the idea of how to 'easily' get these devices. >>> Dr. Beck was amazing, as he traveled around and showed people how to build >>> these devices very cheaply, and he published all the schematics. However, >>> that is still not practical for most of us. >>> >>> I have the devices from Sota Instruments in Canada, and I am not sure if >>> they ship to the UK. And it is expensive in any case, even without >>> shipping. There are various devices and plans published online, but I'm >>> afraid that my opinion is not worth much concerning those. Others on this >>> list know far more than I do. I have seen the 'Godzilla' zapper mentioned >>> here and elsewhere previously, and of course the Hulda Clark device was >>> just mentioned. But again, I am not sure if these are equivalent to the >>> actual Beck devices. >>> >>> In late 2013 I actually purchased another set of devices from Sota, as they >>> were the only devices that I was confident in. However, that speaks as much >>> to my ignorance as my trust. I simply have not made enough effort to get >>> comfortable with alternatives, and I am too lazy to build my own. The Sota >>> devices have served me well, with my eight year old set still getting >>> regular use, and a new set in NY being used by family members. As Nancy >>> mentioned, the previous blood electrification unit was quite uncomfortable >>> for most people; however, the newer unit is much better, though still >>> cumbersome. I am curious about alternatives, so I will be educating myself >>> further. >>> >>> I imagine that you can get a device for making ozonated water in the UK, >>> and perhaps someone here has a recommendation. The Sota devices are good >>> machines, and I recommend them, but I also appreciate that cost and >>> logistics can be a deal breaker. >>> >>> I hope others have better answers for you. >>> >>> Victor >>> >>>> On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 5:51 PM, Dee wrote: >>>> Hi Victor do you know if this is available in the UK only I get the >>>> feeling the postage will be prohibitive.Dee >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPad >>>> >>>>> On 3 Mar 2015, at 00:31, Victor Cozzetto >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi RaVen, >>>>> >>>>> You are probably right, although I think I resolved all my nutritional >>>>> deficiencies for the moment. >>>>> >>>>> The most potent superfood that I use is a combination of Fermented Cod >>>>> Liver Oil (FCLO) and high vitamin Butter Oil (BO). The only source I >>>>> trust for these items is Green Pasture, which brands their products as >>>>> 'Blue Ice': >>>>> >>>>> greenpasture.org >>>>> >>>>> They also have a nice combo product called Infused Coconut Oil: >>>>> http://www.greenpasture.org/public/Products/InfusedCoconutOil/ >>>>> >>>>> If you research, you will notice that trusted distributers around the >>>>> world are selling these Blue Ice products that are provided by Green >>>>> Pasture. Dave and Barb Wentzel are supper serious about maintaining the >>
Re: CS>Beck Protocol
I store it in plastic bottles with a 1 on the bottom. No problemsDee Sent from my iPad > On 3 Mar 2015, at 16:19, ASL raVen wrote: > > > Hi > Last year I've tried a zapper but it didn't seem to do anything for me after > 3 weeks of using it. I guess it being cheaply priced, it was probably not a > real effective little machine as I hoped it'd be. Is Hulda Clark's zappers > stronger? > What are we supposed to feel with a zapper? Does it alkaline the blood? What > does a zapper do exactly? > > About Green Pastures - I'm allergic to Cod Fish --- would that mean I'd be > allergic to Cod fish's oil too? I'm tempted to try it. Truthfully when I ate > cod fish in the past, I didn't notice any serious reactions to it. But doctor > took a skin allergic test (poking needles and see how much my skin would puff > up kind) --- cod fish and halibut fish and apples were the only things that > swelled up. But when I ate apple or the fish, I felt fine. What gives? > Should I trust these seemingly useless skin prick allergy test? > The other foods and environmental things that bothers me immensely did not > show up in that test. > > Last question - with the colloidal silver I made a few weeks ago --- should > it be stored in glass bottles only (and tinted?) - there's one plastic > bottle that I bought through Amazon of another C.S. brand -- I saved it and > reused it to put my home made brew in it. Then I worried about plastic > filtering into it. Should I store CS liquid in glass only? > > > RaVen
Re: CS>Beck Protocol
Hi Victor, I was actually talking about the fermented cod liver oil from green pasture.com. I myself have the Autozap and Zappicator which I believe is supposedly Hulda Clark.Dee Sent from my iPad > On 3 Mar 2015, at 13:31, Victor Cozzetto wrote: > > Hi Dee, > > I have struggled myself with the idea of how to 'easily' get these devices. > Dr. Beck was amazing, as he traveled around and showed people how to build > these devices very cheaply, and he published all the schematics. However, > that is still not practical for most of us. > > I have the devices from Sota Instruments in Canada, and I am not sure if they > ship to the UK. And it is expensive in any case, even without shipping. There > are various devices and plans published online, but I'm afraid that my > opinion is not worth much concerning those. Others on this list know far more > than I do. I have seen the 'Godzilla' zapper mentioned here and elsewhere > previously, and of course the Hulda Clark device was just mentioned. But > again, I am not sure if these are equivalent to the actual Beck devices. > > In late 2013 I actually purchased another set of devices from Sota, as they > were the only devices that I was confident in. However, that speaks as much > to my ignorance as my trust. I simply have not made enough effort to get > comfortable with alternatives, and I am too lazy to build my own. The Sota > devices have served me well, with my eight year old set still getting regular > use, and a new set in NY being used by family members. As Nancy mentioned, > the previous blood electrification unit was quite uncomfortable for most > people; however, the newer unit is much better, though still cumbersome. I am > curious about alternatives, so I will be educating myself further. > > I imagine that you can get a device for making ozonated water in the UK, and > perhaps someone here has a recommendation. The Sota devices are good > machines, and I recommend them, but I also appreciate that cost and logistics > can be a deal breaker. > > I hope others have better answers for you. > > Victor > >> On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 5:51 PM, Dee wrote: >> Hi Victor do you know if this is available in the UK only I get the feeling >> the postage will be prohibitive.Dee >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On 3 Mar 2015, at 00:31, Victor Cozzetto wrote: >>> >>> Hi RaVen, >>> >>> You are probably right, although I think I resolved all my nutritional >>> deficiencies for the moment. >>> >>> The most potent superfood that I use is a combination of Fermented Cod >>> Liver Oil (FCLO) and high vitamin Butter Oil (BO). The only source I trust >>> for these items is Green Pasture, which brands their products as 'Blue Ice': >>> >>> greenpasture.org >>> >>> They also have a nice combo product called Infused Coconut Oil: >>> http://www.greenpasture.org/public/Products/InfusedCoconutOil/ >>> >>> If you research, you will notice that trusted distributers around the world >>> are selling these Blue Ice products that are provided by Green Pasture. >>> Dave and Barb Wentzel are supper serious about maintaining the quality and >>> purity of their products. They are heroes in my book. >>> >>> Those are the products that I use when I think I need a 'supplement' for my >>> diet - meaning that I take a small spoonful of the above products two or >>> three of times a day. But I only do that when I think my diet is lacking. I >>> also use their coconut ghee (ghee is basically BO). >>> >>> A similar combination is natto and ghee. These are foods, not supplements, >>> so it can be easier to implement them into your diet (depending on your >>> tastes). There are many different good brands of those products, but you do >>> have to be careful, as there are many bad or fake ghee products these days. >>> Natto is a Japanese food that can be difficult to find (It is fermented >>> soybean). >>> >>> A key point to the above is the nutritional synergy between the products, >>> so they must be taken together to have the maximum impact. For example, >>> cooking natto and eggs in ghee is one way. Taking a spoonful of the Infused >>> Coconut Oil product is another. >>> >>> Another important point is not what we add, but what we remove: No white >>> sugar or white flour if possible. I use Einkorn and Spelt, which I soak and >>> sprout sometimes. Grains block our ability to absorb nutrit
Re: CS>Beck Protocol
Hi Victor do you know if this is available in the UK only I get the feeling the postage will be prohibitive.Dee Sent from my iPad > On 3 Mar 2015, at 00:31, Victor Cozzetto wrote: > > Hi RaVen, > > You are probably right, although I think I resolved all my nutritional > deficiencies for the moment. > > The most potent superfood that I use is a combination of Fermented Cod Liver > Oil (FCLO) and high vitamin Butter Oil (BO). The only source I trust for > these items is Green Pasture, which brands their products as 'Blue Ice': > > greenpasture.org > > They also have a nice combo product called Infused Coconut Oil: > http://www.greenpasture.org/public/Products/InfusedCoconutOil/ > > If you research, you will notice that trusted distributers around the world > are selling these Blue Ice products that are provided by Green Pasture. Dave > and Barb Wentzel are supper serious about maintaining the quality and purity > of their products. They are heroes in my book. > > Those are the products that I use when I think I need a 'supplement' for my > diet - meaning that I take a small spoonful of the above products two or > three of times a day. But I only do that when I think my diet is lacking. I > also use their coconut ghee (ghee is basically BO). > > A similar combination is natto and ghee. These are foods, not supplements, so > it can be easier to implement them into your diet (depending on your tastes). > There are many different good brands of those products, but you do have to be > careful, as there are many bad or fake ghee products these days. Natto is a > Japanese food that can be difficult to find (It is fermented soybean). > > A key point to the above is the nutritional synergy between the products, so > they must be taken together to have the maximum impact. For example, cooking > natto and eggs in ghee is one way. Taking a spoonful of the Infused Coconut > Oil product is another. > > Another important point is not what we add, but what we remove: No white > sugar or white flour if possible. I use Einkorn and Spelt, which I soak and > sprout sometimes. Grains block our ability to absorb nutrition, so they must > be eliminated or processed properly - fermenting, soaking, souring, > sprouting, etc. This is one of the 'secrets' that Weston Price found among > all of the 'primitive' people that used grains. > > OK, so this email is too long. Sorry about that. I will send another about > some 'fun' foods that I use to aid my nutrition. > > Victor > > >> On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 1:48 AM, ASL raVen wrote: >> >> Hi Victor, >> I wonder if you have vitamin A deficiency? I learned that Vitamin A is >> related to skin issues and teeth issues. >> >> I read that fibromyalgia could stem from an infected root canal and sure >> enough I had a lot of issues with my elbow and shoulder which matched tooth >> that I had root canal on - I'm going to have it removed someday and see how >> my health improves after that. (also see how it improves the FMS?) >> >> What are the superfoods you mentioned about? >> >> RaVen >
Re: CS>Candida/Beck Protocol-quiet list
I think seaweed supplements help and also I have had success with oil of oregano...Dee Sent from my iPad > On 1 Mar 2015, at 15:27, Gmail wrote: > > Since it is quiet, I am suffering from a serious candida infection- systemic. > I am using olive leaf extract, CS, VCO, probiotics, and alkaline water. > Anyone have any success with a protocol using these or something else? > > There are no markets anymore-just interventions. --Chris Powell > >> On Mar 1, 2015, at 10:08 AM, Victor Cozzetto >> wrote: >> >> Hello Everyone, >> >> Since it is quiet, I figured I would throw this topic out there. I have only >> seen a couple of people mention the Beck Protocol here, and so I would like >> to mention it again. I noticed that it was curiously absent from the recent >> discussion of Rife and other energy therapies. >> >> In my experience, and to my knowledge, this is the single most effective >> protocol that I know of. It is also the protocol that is responsible for the >> famed 'immortal' blood. >> >> CS is one of its four parts, and I have mentioned this protocol before, as I >> have seen and experienced its effects. >> >> I would be curious to know if anyone else on this list has any comments, >> experience, or curiosity. As far as I know, there is nothing that cannot be >> cured by the Beck Protocol, when it is administered properly. And in recent >> years video testimonials have been posted here: >> >> https://www.youtube.com/user/TheBobBeckProtocol/ >> >> I know we have lyme disease sufferers on this list, and you will find tons >> of information on the web recommending this protocol as a treatment. >> >> Victor
Re: CS>Cancer being a virus
Trouble is, not enough of us connect the dots and the rest think we're all
crazy conspiracy theorists.....Dee
Sent from my iPad
> On 26 Feb 2015, at 15:57, Da Darrin wrote:
>
> The bigger picture is the earth is becoming over populated and they can't
> just murder all of us so they are finding a way to shorten our lives and make
> people sterile to slow the growth.
>
> First they add Soy to everything you consume, even your supplements, that
> causes Obesity by slowing the thyroid, and all the health hazards
> accompanying it. Including testosterone converted to oestrogen to slow
> reproduction.
>
> Then comes the Shots with all their poisons and health hazard...
>
> The end result is a sick dieing populace that will not live long enough to
> draw the social security they have been paying into all their lives. The hope
> is it will not be noticed as it won't effect every one so they can say people
> are living longer than ever in history ( the few that resist them that is).
>
> There are a few of the dots connected. I'm sure there are many more.
> Dave
>
>
>> On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 4:08 AM, Dee wrote:
>> They try and foist the jabs on old folks here but I refused mine, but people
>> who don't have their kids jabbed with the MMR vaccine are treated as though
>> they don't care about their children and even blamed for measles outbreaks!
>> No-one seems to think that if all the other kids have HAD the jabs then they
>> shouldn't GET the measles - but they still do! No-one ever seems to connect
>> the dotsDee
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>> On 26 Feb 2015, at 11:25, V wrote:
>>>
>>> Amen to that N! I am working in a mask each and every day despite being
>>> healthy. My crime is not being vaccinated with the flu vaccine. The fact
>>> that there are approximately 200 know flu and flu like viruses and they
>>> choose three or four of the ones they guess will be most prevalent is not
>>> well known. The shots do not accomplish what they are supposedly trying to
>>> accomplish. I grew up at a time when there were many times fewer shots and
>>> all my children got theirs. I see now the problems they had as children may
>>> well have been tied to the practice. I shudder at the number of
>>> vaccinations babies and children receive now. The next step is already
>>> being proposed for a strong push for adult vaccination programs. ( I refuse
>>> to call them immunizations!) How long till all are mandated? With what I
>>> see in my community and work place it won't be long. Sadly disappointed in
>>> the full on blind trust and lack of questioning. Lack of doing any reading
>>> at all, not even the vaccine insert before offering to be injected or cut,
>>> poisoned and burned for cancer, or what you are actually swallowing before
>>> taking prescribed drugs blows my mind! Particularly in the younger
>>> generations with the so much information at hand. I will post articles on
>>> the corruption, conflicts of interest, bad science and history of the
>>> diseases we are asked to vaccinate for and it gets removed from the
>>> information boards promptly. We are our own worst enemies in censoring
>>> those we disagree with instead of engaging in honest discussion and
>>> evaluation of what we are doing.
>>>
>>> The fact that I can plant a seed and it becomes a flower, share a bit of
>>> knowledge and it becomes another's, smile at someone and receive a smile in
>>> return, are to me continual spiritual exercises.
>>> Leo Buscaglia
>>>
>>>> On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 10:06 PM, Neville wrote:
>>>> G'day Sandee,
>>>>
>>>> I think I have said before that flu vaccines have been pushed relentlessly
>>>> in recent years here and yet last year {2014} there was a one hundred
>>>> percent increase in hospital admissions for colds and/or flu's in one of
>>>> the cities hospitals - WHAT THE...? Not 40 percent, or 60 percent, or
>>>> even 90 percent, but a full *100* percent increase, openly admitted on the
>>>> idiot box {TV}. But what they *don't* tell you is how many of that 100
>>>> percent had actually been vaccinated against colds/flu's? Smoke and
>>>> mirror deception. People are so dumb they can't figure it out, they get
>>>> all they deserve as far as I'm concerned. This is but one reason my
>>>> attitude to things stands out like a
Re: CS>Cancer being a virus
Disgusting! The trouble is, all us people who think for ourselves are thought to be cranksDee Sent from my iPad > On 26 Feb 2015, at 12:49, Neville wrote: > > > > From: highergroun...@gmail.com > Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 05:25:20 -0600 > Subject: Re: CS>Cancer being a virus > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > > We are our own worst enemies in censoring those we disagree with instead of > engaging in honest discussion and evaluation of what we are doing. > > ## Just to pick up on this point quickly if I may. There was an anti vaccine > woman who had booked venues to do talks/seminars here in Australia a few > weeks ago and her venues were cancelled due to it being too controversial a > subject...HELLO!! How's that for "honest discussion and evaluation"? A fine > example of censorship in our Dictatorship. > > N. >
Re: CS>Cancer being a virus
They try and foist the jabs on old folks here but I refused mine, but people
who don't have their kids jabbed with the MMR vaccine are treated as though
they don't care about their children and even blamed for measles outbreaks!
No-one seems to think that if all the other kids have HAD the jabs then they
shouldn't GET the measles - but they still do! No-one ever seems to connect
the dotsDee
Sent from my iPad
> On 26 Feb 2015, at 11:25, V wrote:
>
> Amen to that N! I am working in a mask each and every day despite being
> healthy. My crime is not being vaccinated with the flu vaccine. The fact that
> there are approximately 200 know flu and flu like viruses and they choose
> three or four of the ones they guess will be most prevalent is not well
> known. The shots do not accomplish what they are supposedly trying to
> accomplish. I grew up at a time when there were many times fewer shots and
> all my children got theirs. I see now the problems they had as children may
> well have been tied to the practice. I shudder at the number of vaccinations
> babies and children receive now. The next step is already being proposed for
> a strong push for adult vaccination programs. ( I refuse to call them
> immunizations!) How long till all are mandated? With what I see in my
> community and work place it won't be long. Sadly disappointed in the full on
> blind trust and lack of questioning. Lack of doing any reading at all, not
> even the vaccine insert before offering to be injected or cut, poisoned and
> burned for cancer, or what you are actually swallowing before taking
> prescribed drugs blows my mind! Particularly in the younger generations with
> the so much information at hand. I will post articles on the corruption,
> conflicts of interest, bad science and history of the diseases we are asked
> to vaccinate for and it gets removed from the information boards promptly. We
> are our own worst enemies in censoring those we disagree with instead of
> engaging in honest discussion and evaluation of what we are doing.
>
> The fact that I can plant a seed and it becomes a flower, share a bit of
> knowledge and it becomes another's, smile at someone and receive a smile in
> return, are to me continual spiritual exercises.
> Leo Buscaglia
>
>> On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 10:06 PM, Neville wrote:
>> G'day Sandee,
>>
>> I think I have said before that flu vaccines have been pushed relentlessly
>> in recent years here and yet last year {2014} there was a one hundred
>> percent increase in hospital admissions for colds and/or flu's in one of the
>> cities hospitals - WHAT THE...? Not 40 percent, or 60 percent, or even 90
>> percent, but a full *100* percent increase, openly admitted on the idiot box
>> {TV}. But what they *don't* tell you is how many of that 100 percent had
>> actually been vaccinated against colds/flu's? Smoke and mirror deception.
>> People are so dumb they can't figure it out, they get all they deserve as
>> far as I'm concerned. This is but one reason my attitude to things stands
>> out like a sore thumb. And if vaccinations are not taken voluntarily, as in
>> school kids, they are forced upon them, or they and their parents are
>> ostracised if they buck against it, with the bold faced lie that it's the
>> unvaccinated who spread disease. Hitler may have died in '45, but his
>> legacy still lives on.
>>
>> N.
>>
>> > Subject: Re: CS>Cancer being a virus
>> > From: oha...@juno.com
>> > Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 13:09:15 -0400
>> > To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>> >
>> > Hi There Neville thanks for this one, the last paragraph of same is the
>> > truth of the entire story being discussed -
>> > when the understanding of all the four bodies of humans is accepted these
>> > arguments will continue - the four bodies
>> > I am sure you know them are - mental, physical, emotional, and spiritual
>> > they all comprise the whole Take any one without understanding the
>> > connect between them all allows for misunderstanding - thanks again
>> > Cheers
>> > Sandee
>> > Attitude is everything !!!
>> > Sandra George
>> > Colloidal Silver Products
>> > Eye Drops & Topical Gel
>> > aliveagai...@yahoo.com
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
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>> >
>
Re: CS>Cancer being a virus
I think the best line to take - being that there is no absolute proof available
- is to keep an open mind.Dee
Sent from my iPad
> On 24 Feb 2015, at 04:18, Victor Cozzetto wrote:
>
> Hi Neville, Dave,
>
> I would have to take issue with your statement that 'thought does not have
> anything to do with anything.' We are far past the 'voodoo' and 'magic'
> stigma at this point. Fields of science such as PNI (Psychoneuroimmunology)
> are well established on a firm bed of experimental results. Not to mention
> all the things happening in epigenetics. There is no question that our state
> of mind has a direct impact on our health.
>
> We are more than mere machines. Food for thought: One of the most shocking
> displays of the power of the mind is found in those that suffer from split
> personality disorder. There are cases when one personality emerges, and
> instantly changes the eye color of the individual, causes scars to emerge on
> the body, and other radical physiological changes. And it all changes back
> when that persona changes.
>
> A more romantic example is the link between two people in two different
> faraday cages. I'll save that for another time, if anyone is interested. Of
> course you can google such things.
>
> I don't think you guys meant to sound so absolute, but I did not want to
> leave those comments hanging out there. And I thought this might be
> interesting to some people.
>
> Victor
>
>
>
>> On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 8:29 AM, Neville wrote:
>> Humans are the only animals that have the power to think and reason,
>> animals/reptiles/insects etc etc just do what they do by instinct without
>> thinking or reasoning anything. Animals are prone to cancer so it doesn't
>> follow that thought has anything to do with anything, however, if it makes
>> people feel better or more positive about things then that's fine, let's
>> face it, people need 'something' to believe in, animals etc don't need to
>> believe in anything, they just are.
>>
>> Barry Lynes book "The Cancer Cure that Worked" explains the cancer virus and
>> how it has the ability to morph into different shapes/forms. For decades
>> the "experts?" considered only one form of cancer, {monomorhic}, back in the
>> 30's Rife and I believe Kendall proved this is not so, cancer virus is
>> pleomorphic {changes shape/form}, and this is probably why so many cancers
>> are missed early, because they don't know what to look for, and because you
>> can't tell todays "experts?" anything they are probably still stuck in their
>> Prehistoric thinking and in complete denial.
>>
>> It's a war out there today between those who truly understand research {they
>> are pretty much an extinct species today} and those funded by a particular
>> funding body who pay researchers to provide acceptable answers.
>>
>> Independant thinkers, those who have not and will not be conditioned and
>> institutionalised by the system are a dying breed and are becoming more and
>> more ostracised and ridiculed by the general public. If one doesn't 'toe
>> the establishment line' then one will be forced to toe the line by
>> legislation/coercion/emotional blackmail/guilt etc.
>>
>> N.
>>
>> Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2015 10:14:05 -0800
>> Subject: Re: CS>Cancer being a virus
>> From: ddarrin...@gmail.com
>> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>>
>> There is a theory that Cancer is accomplished by cells that normally die
>> when new replacements are formed, fail to do so, thereby a doubling of cells
>> at a given location.
>> Called Apoptosis I believe or something like that.
>> Would explain why it occurs in animals and has nothing to do with thought.
>> Dave
>
Re: CS>Cancer being a virus
Another little gem of wisdom Neville and unfortunately, so trueDee
Sent from my iPad
> On 23 Feb 2015, at 23:29, Neville wrote:
>
> Humans are the only animals that have the power to think and reason,
> animals/reptiles/insects etc etc just do what they do by instinct without
> thinking or reasoning anything. Animals are prone to cancer so it doesn't
> follow that thought has anything to do with anything, however, if it makes
> people feel better or more positive about things then that's fine, let's face
> it, people need 'something' to believe in, animals etc don't need to believe
> in anything, they just are.
>
> Barry Lynes book "The Cancer Cure that Worked" explains the cancer virus and
> how it has the ability to morph into different shapes/forms. For decades the
> "experts?" considered only one form of cancer, {monomorhic}, back in the 30's
> Rife and I believe Kendall proved this is not so, cancer virus is
> pleomorphic {changes shape/form}, and this is probably why so many cancers
> are missed early, because they don't know what to look for, and because you
> can't tell todays "experts?" anything they are probably still stuck in their
> Prehistoric thinking and in complete denial.
>
> It's a war out there today between those who truly understand research {they
> are pretty much an extinct species today} and those funded by a particular
> funding body who pay researchers to provide acceptable answers.
>
> Independant thinkers, those who have not and will not be conditioned and
> institutionalised by the system are a dying breed and are becoming more and
> more ostracised and ridiculed by the general public. If one doesn't 'toe the
> establishment line' then one will be forced to toe the line by
> legislation/coercion/emotional blackmail/guilt etc.
>
> N.
>
> Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2015 10:14:05 -0800
> Subject: Re: CS>Cancer being a virus
> From: ddarrin...@gmail.com
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>
> There is a theory that Cancer is accomplished by cells that normally die when
> new replacements are formed, fail to do so, thereby a doubling of cells at a
> given location.
> Called Apoptosis I believe or something like that.
> Would explain why it occurs in animals and has nothing to do with thought.
> Dave
>
>
>
>
Re: CS>Cancer being a virus
I believe that this is caused by an outside influence like candida or maybe viruses ' turning off' the die off switch in some way, thus causing the cell to keep multiplying. I read that substances in things like broccoli and avocados can 'reset' the die off switch...dee Sent from my iPad > On 22 Feb 2015, at 18:14, Da Darrin wrote: > > There is a theory that Cancer is accomplished by cells that normally die when > new replacements are formed, fail to do so, thereby a doubling of cells at a > given location. > Called Apoptosis I believe or something like that. > Would explain why it occurs in animals and has nothing to do with thought. > Dave > >> On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 3:55 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote: >> Can you tell me why babies, dog, cat's, horses get cancer? A baby can't >> think negative can it? >> >> >> On Saturday, February 21, 2015 5:26 PM, Sandra George >> wrote: >> >> >> I have read that they are thinking that cancer can be caused from a virus - >> I could debate this fact by bringing the human emotions and lack of use of >> the mind control as factors into this debate If one is inclined to >> use or learn >> how to control the mind, then one is supposed to be able to avert anything >> that is of negative value and exactly what is this in real terms ?I >> leave you all to deliberate . . . . . . . . . >> Sandee >> Attitude is everything !!! >> Sandra George >> Colloidal Silver Products >> Eye Drops & Topical Gel >> aliveagai...@yahoo.com >> >> >> >> On 21 Feb 2015, at 16:32, Steve G wrote: >> >> FWIW a 24 flu is usually food poisoning. Can be something we did or >> something done to our food at a restaurant or friends place etc. of course >> I know nothing about your specifics, but we all get blindsided occasionally >> by this sort of thing. >> >> >> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad >> >> At Feb 21, 2015, 3:19:15 PM, Phil Morrison<'philmorrison...@gmail.com'> >> wrote: >> >> Super Bug is an overstatement, since most victims were >> already weakened with compromised immune systems mostly >> due anti-biotics killing both good and bad bacteria in the gut. >> >> OTOH there is a short list of silver resistant bacteria, and the >> Super Bug strain happens to be one of them. Whether this >> specific bug is silver resistant only time will tell. >> >> We know the buzzards back at the Lizzard Lab are working >> overtime developing silver resistant bugs, so we have to >> foreshadow our futures accordingly. >> >> I've been on silver for many years and still get hit about every >> five years. Recently, a 24 hour bug hit and laid me low. CS >> just wasn't up to dealing with this bug. Fortunately, the Sota >> Silver Pulser kicked in, along with plenty of minerals and water, >> to hold the bug to under 48 hours. I was lucky, because this >> bug hit like a freight train. >> >> I've peg a web site below which shows electron microscope photos of CS >> nanoparticles killing HIV viruses (Figure 3). >> The researchers determined that it was bare silver attacking >> specific sites on the virus, which is good for our team. Viruses >> cause cancer. So, get em early. >> >> >> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1190212/ >> >> >> >> -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. >> Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: Archives: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic >> discussions: List Owner: Mike Devour >> >> >
Re: CS>Cancer being a virus
A prebiotic is food for probiotics and no, probiotics are not bad they are extremely good and necessary to lifeDee Sent from my iPad > On 22 Feb 2015, at 16:46, ASL raVen wrote: > > > Does anyone know what's the difference between prebiotic and probiotic -- > someone said to me that probiotic is not good? It's so tiring to see all > these contradictions. Which should I be taking? > > I also need a reliable list of what exact benefits of Colloidal Silver does > for people. Some friends want to know and I caught myself unable to recite as > I wasn't exactly sure. I need to be more informed but want to make sure I'm > getting from a truthful site. Thanks. > > RaVen >
Re: CS>Important question about the new SuperBug 2015 "CRE"
Oh silly me! Sorry Sandee, senior moments again! Dee Sent from my iPad > On 22 Feb 2015, at 14:34, Sandra George wrote: > > You misunderstand me - a water fast is not devoid of water it is done only > with water - no food only water and is one of the best detoxes I have found > to be totally efficient because it rests the digestion system and allows for > release of toxins !!! > Sandee🐬 > Attitude is Everything > Colloidal Silver Products > Eye Drops & Topical Gel > > >> On Feb 22, 2015, at 7:45 AM, Dee wrote: >> >> That's very interesting Sandee, and I would reiterate that water fasting is >> a VERY bad idea. With any illness or virus attack it is really important to >> keep water intake up as this is the body's lifeline. I know with my husband >> whom I lost last year, that dehydration caused kidney failure which then so >> weakened him that he lost the fight against numerous assaults even though >> they said he had beaten the cancerdee >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On 21 Feb 2015, at 19:30, Sandra George wrote: >>> >>> Further to mine of today’s date on the same subject and to Victor himself - >>> I will expand on my experience which is, that as of the first week of >>> August last year, the original onslaught of this virus was not STOPPED by >>> Colloidal Silver - when I started to feel that I was getting something I >>> increased my daily intake of CS up to 28 oz over a day - this may have >>> helped to have reduced the impact however I repeat did not STOP the attack >>> ! Admittedly I was very stupid in so far as, after having this >>> feeling of malaise for ten days, I went on a water fast for ten days to >>> detox my body, while still taking this increased amount of CS per day, this >>> is when the virus said - thank you very much for this act so as to allow me >>> to attack with a vengeance - which it did - I have already posted my >>> experience, so will not bore those of you who many have read my missive the >>> first time, with a replay - after about three weeks, I developed all the >>> symptoms of this virus namely, intense pain, aches, rash and swollen joints >>> - I learned what the virus was, and went into action throwing the entire >>> kitchen sink of possible things to send it packing and on it’s way, nothing >>> worked, I even went as far as to use MMS something I will never do again. >>> This is when I was doing all the research on this subject - thanks >>> Marshall for posting the piece on the latest research on virus generally, >>> http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/are-viruses-alive-2004/ which I >>> read at the time of my quest, thanks Ode for agreeing, that, how can one >>> kill something if it is not alive - both of you know far more about this >>> subject than I do so I appreciate the back up. I have a cousin who has >>> just got their doctorate on virus and is off to visit with the Ebola up >>> close and personal with whom I had a long talk while I was in London in >>> December of last year - I related to her my experience and what I had >>> gleaned from my research and like both of yourselves she was not going to >>> commit to anything for sure - this is one of the downsides of research - at >>> which point is the truth or reality reached? >> > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org > > Unsubscribe: > <mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe> > Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html > > Off-Topic discussions: <mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com> > List Owner: Mike Devour <mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com> > >
Re: CS>Cancer being a virus
All these posts are so interesting but scary! As I said before, it is easy to see where the filmmakers get their sci-fi 'monsters' fromdee Sent from my iPad > On 22 Feb 2015, at 00:37, John Popelish wrote: > >> On 02/21/2015 03:53 PM, Sandra George wrote: >> I have read that they are thinking that cancer can be >> caused from a virus - I could debate this fact by >> bringing the human emotions and lack of use of the mind >> control as factors into this debate If one is >> inclined to use or learn how to control the mind, then >> one is supposed to be able to avert anything that is of >> negative value and exactly what is this in real terms ? I >> leave you all to deliberate . . . . . . . . . > > A virus is a package of genetic code that inserts itself > into a living cell, forcing that cell to manufacture copies > of the code and the package it came in. Some virus types > have been pretty conclusively demonstrated to insert their > code into a cell's genetics in a way that can (depending on > exactly where the insertions take place) convert a normal > cell into a cancer cell. Human papilloma virus is one of > these types. This is what the Gardasil immunization was > designed to prevent. > > A wonderful and terrifying example of such a cancer is the > new species of single celled animal called HeLa. It was > extracted from a cancer that killed Henrieta Lacks, a half > century ago, but lives on, in bio labs, around the world. > Since its genetics are almost entirely human (with some > virus code thrown in), its biochemistry is very similar to > that of humans and this makes it extremely useful for > medical research. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HeLa > > -- > Regards, > > John Popelish > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org > > Unsubscribe: > <mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe> > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html > > Off-Topic discussions: <mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com> > List Owner: Mike Devour <mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com> > >
Re: CS>Cancer being a virus
I think there is a growing number of doctor/scientists who are saying that cancer is allowed to progress because of the overgrowth of candida turning into a fungus . This why it is important to keep up the numbers of the 'good' probiotics. Always look after the gut because that is where it all goes wrong...dee Sent from my iPad > On 21 Feb 2015, at 20:53, Sandra George wrote: > > I have read that they are thinking that cancer can be caused from a virus - I > could debate this fact by bringing the human emotions and lack of use of the > mind control as factors into this debate If one is inclined to use or > learn > how to control the mind, then one is supposed to be able to avert anything > that is of negative value and exactly what is this in real terms ?I leave > you all to deliberate . . . . . . . . . > Sandee🐬 > Attitude is everything !!! > Sandra George > Colloidal Silver Products > Eye Drops & Topical Gel > aliveagai...@yahoo.com > > > > On 21 Feb 2015, at 16:32, Steve G wrote: > > FWIW a 24 flu is usually food poisoning. Can be something we did or something > done to our food at a restaurant or friends place etc. of course I know > nothing about your specifics, but we all get blindsided occasionally by this > sort of thing. > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad > > At Feb 21, 2015, 3:19:15 PM, Phil Morrison<'philmorrison...@gmail.com'> wrote: > > Super Bug is an overstatement, since most victims were > already weakened with compromised immune systems mostly > due anti-biotics killing both good and bad bacteria in the gut. > > OTOH there is a short list of silver resistant bacteria, and the > Super Bug strain happens to be one of them. Whether this > specific bug is silver resistant only time will tell. > > We know the buzzards back at the Lizzard Lab are working > overtime developing silver resistant bugs, so we have to > foreshadow our futures accordingly. > > I've been on silver for many years and still get hit about every > five years. Recently, a 24 hour bug hit and laid me low. CS > just wasn't up to dealing with this bug. Fortunately, the Sota > Silver Pulser kicked in, along with plenty of minerals and water, > to hold the bug to under 48 hours. I was lucky, because this > bug hit like a freight train. > > I've peg a web site below which shows electron microscope photos of CS > nanoparticles killing HIV viruses (Figure 3). > The researchers determined that it was bare silver attacking > specific sites on the virus, which is good for our team. Viruses > cause cancer. So, get em early. > > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1190212/ > > > > -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic > discussions: List Owner: Mike Devour > > > >
Re: CS>Important question about the new SuperBug 2015 "CRE"
That's very interesting Sandee, and I would reiterate that water fasting is a VERY bad idea. With any illness or virus attack it is really important to keep water intake up as this is the body's lifeline. I know with my husband whom I lost last year, that dehydration caused kidney failure which then so weakened him that he lost the fight against numerous assaults even though they said he had beaten the cancerdee Sent from my iPad > On 21 Feb 2015, at 19:30, Sandra George wrote: > > Further to mine of today’s date on the same subject and to Victor himself - I > will expand on my experience which is, that as of the first week of August > last year, the original onslaught of this virus was not STOPPED by Colloidal > Silver - when I started to feel that I was getting something I increased my > daily intake of CS up to 28 oz over a day - this may have helped to have > reduced the impact however I repeat did not STOP the attack ! > Admittedly I was very stupid in so far as, after having this feeling of > malaise for ten days, I went on a water fast for ten days to detox my body, > while still taking this increased amount of CS per day, this is when the > virus said - thank you very much for this act so as to allow me to attack > with a vengeance - which it did - I have already posted my experience, so > will not bore those of you who many have read my missive the first time, with > a replay - after about three weeks, I developed all the symptoms of this > virus namely, intense pain, aches, rash and swollen joints - I learned what > the virus was, and went into action throwing the entire kitchen sink of > possible things to send it packing and on it’s way, nothing worked, I even > went as far as to use MMS something I will never do again. This is when I > was doing all the research on this subject - thanks Marshall for posting the > piece on the latest research on virus generally, > http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/are-viruses-alive-2004/ which I > read at the time of my quest, thanks Ode for agreeing, that, how can one kill > something if it is not alive - both of you know far more about this subject > than I do so I appreciate the back up. I have a cousin who has just got > their doctorate on virus and is off to visit with the Ebola up close and > personal with whom I had a long talk while I was in London in December of > last year - I related to her my experience and what I had gleaned from my > research and like both of yourselves she was not going to commit to anything > for sure - this is one of the downsides of research - at which point is the > truth or reality reached? > Having done, what I did on myself, by throwing everything at this virus for > four months by the second week of january of this year I started to feel like > my old self again - while in England in December I caught the flu and ended > up in bed for five days thanks to a weakened immune system, so even with the > high CS intake it was not able to save me this additional experience > So as I write this I cannot say that anything or all of what I did, has > killed the virus because I cannot be bothered to go and take a blood test to > see if the virus is still in my body - however I will say that as far as I am > concerned, when I compare Further to mine of today’s date on the same subject > and to Victor himself - I will expand on my experience which is, that as of > the first week of August last year, the original onslaught of this virus was > not STOPPED by Colloidal Silver - when I started to feel that I was getting > something I increased my daily intake of CS up to 28 oz over a day - this may > have helped to have reduced the impact however I repeat did not STOP the > attack ! Admittedly I was very stupid in so far as, after having > this feeling of malaise for ten days, I went on a water fast for ten days to > detox my body, while still taking this increased amount of CS per day, this > is when the virus said - thank you very much for this act so as to allow me > to attack with a vengeance - which it did - I have already posted my > experience, so will not bore those of you who many have read my missive the > first time, with a replay - after about three weeks, I developed all the > symptoms of this virus namely, intense pain, aches, rash and swollen joints - > I learned what the virus was, and went into action throwing the entire > kitchen sink of possible things to send it packing and on it’s way, nothing > worked, I even went as far as to use MMS something I will never do again. > This is when I was doing all the research on this subject - thanks Marshall > for posting the piece on the latest research on virus generally, > http:/
