Re: CSAnthrax Comment
Catherine, Could you please elaborate on this comment: I think you would also find that the quality of CS most make at home would not be sufficient. Thanks, Jannette Dear Jason, You said: Luckily, American Biotech Labs ( ASAP silver ) also tested colloidal silver against anthrax, and confirmed its susceptibility: http://www.s-ilversource.com/asap_vs_anthrax.htm Anthrax spores are not difficult to kill outside the body. There are a number of substances that do this. Inside the body, the anthrax spore spreads its toxins so quickly, IF CS were to work against it, imediate treatment would be required. This is a big IF, because it has yet to be demonstrated on animals or humans. I think you would also find that the quality of CS most make at home would not be sufficient. Regards, Catherine --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.456 / Virus Database: 256 - Release Date: 2/18/2003 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAnthrax Comment
Thanks Catherine, you did answer my question. Regards, Jannette IMO, you couldn't consume enough quickly enough of what is made at home (mostly ionic silver) to have it act on the cells in enough time to save your life. If I was going to try to address pulmonary anthrax with CS, I would want to have several gallons of Meso-Silver, a product significantly different from that which is home made. Regards, Catherine --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.456 / Virus Database: 256 - Release Date: 2/18/2003 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSStomach ulcers
Brooks, Please send the summary to the list. I looked in the archives, and the information was not too helpfull. Blessings, Jannette However, I will endeavor to have someone on staff to furnish me a coherent summary of the particular study on heliobacter pylori protocols involving colloidal silverand will try tlo post it to the list. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS RE: Colloidal Gold
Great idea Brian...count me in! Jannette I'm wondering if anyone would be interested in participating in a colloidal gold discussion list. I've been quite interested in CG as well, and, although I'm in process of building one, I haven't found a lot of information about CG generators. Most of the information has come from this list, but it's not really the primary list topic of the list. I find CS is excellent for the physical body and CG is great for the mental and spiritual body. A CG discussion list would be a great place to share experiences, details of generation techniques, etc. I'd be willing to attempt to set one up. Thanks! Brian. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.419 / Virus Database: 235 - Release Date: 11/13/2002 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS RE: Colloidal Gold
Laura, I've used CG, and the Water Oz gold. I found that CG is much more effective than the Water Oz product (it is not colloidal). CG sure takes care of my MS blues! The entire spiritual enhancement of the CG is great...plus it does seem to sharpen your intellectual skills! Like Utopia Silver says Silver for the body, gold for the soul Jannette And the CG you sent me saved my life, Chip! Thanks again. Marshalee What did it help you with, Marshalee? I ordered some from WaterOz about a year ago but never got around to using it much. Laura --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.419 / Virus Database: 235 - Release Date: 11/13/2002 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS RE: Colloidal Gold
Trem, Color: It has varied from clear (5-10PPM) to pale violet (10-15PPM) to ruby violet (15+PPM). The time has been from 5 - 71/2 hours. Voltage: 0-52 + Volt Power System 0-3000ma - constant current Electrodes: Both immersed in 16oz. distilled water, with gold cathode and silver anode 5 long spaced 1 apart. I have a 2-port system, so I make 2 batches at once. Hope this info is useful, Jannette Hi Jannette, What color is the CG? How many volts are you using...that is: are you using HVAC (10,000 VAC or so) or are you using LVDC (under 100 volts DC)? How much current? Are both electrodes immersed? How far? What is the spacing? Are they both gold? Thanks for answering. I'm sure there are many inquiring minds that want to know. Trem --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.419 / Virus Database: 235 - Release Date: 11/13/2002 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS RE: Colloidal Gold
Trem, Sorry, you're right, I use the gold electrode in the anode, and silver in the black cathode...:-). If I did as I mistyped, I'd be making CS. I have also experimented with both gold electrodesit made no difference in the final product, and with 2 gold electrodes I can make 2 batches at once. Yes! I use LVDC to make CG, I have the PS50 generator. I set the current at the highest, which is 50 - 52 volts. I also use heated water and an aerator pump. I think the key is TIME.it is a looonngg process! Jannette I'm at a loss to see how this can work. A gold electrode just does not disintegrate using low voltage DC electrolysis. At least it never has for me. Gold coins lost at sea for hundreds of years come up looking the same as the day they were submerged and they are continually being exposed to electrolysis. And of course the silver electrode has to be the CATHODE (negative polarity) or it will be the one to deteriorate if you use DC. The anode is the one that releases particles. Did you mistype the polarity in your post? Quite a mystery to me. Do you know how much current is flowing? Sure you're not using their HVAC model? Apparently it puts out 10,000 VAC but no current is mentioned on their website. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.419 / Virus Database: 235 - Release Date: 11/13/2002 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS RE: Colloidal Gold
Frank, I use a TDS meter calibrated for CS. I then multiply the PPM by 1.4 to arrive at the approx. gold ppm. Jannette How did you determine the concentration of gold achieved? frank key --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.419 / Virus Database: 235 - Release Date: 11/13/2002 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS RE: Colloidal Gold
Marshall, 50-52volts for 71/2 hours for ruby red. The water is heated initially and allowed to run cold. Jannette I think the key is TIME.it is a looonngg process! How much time? I tried 30 volts for 2 weeks once and got nothing. Marshall --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.419 / Virus Database: 235 - Release Date: 11/13/2002 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS RE: Colloidal Gold
Ivan, Sorry, I can't debate this point with you as I don't know what the indices/parameters etc. are for the calibration of the TDS meter for silver measurement entails. I'll stick to the ratios that I was given. I know I'm making CG, (if it looks like a duck [ruby red], works like a duck.[less pain,depression]). If you have a better way to make it using LVDC, I'm all ears, this is a learning process... I would be happy to provide samples if anyone wants to test it (smile). If I get any further info on this I'll pass it on. Jannette Jannette, I don't think your multiplier (1.4) can be right. This is what I get. PPM (as silver) divided by three (gold valence) times 197/108 (atomic weight gold/silver)= 0.6ppm (as gold). Ivan. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.419 / Virus Database: 235 - Release Date: 11/14/2002 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS RE: Colloidal Gold
Margaret, I now make my own CG. I started this two weeks ago, using the PS50 generator from Pride Communications. So far it seems ok. It takes a while, but I get 10-15 PPM in 5-6 hours...beats $35.00 per 8oz for me. Do you make your own? Planning to..? Jannette Does anyone make their own colloidal gold? Thank you Margaret --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.419 / Virus Database: 235 - Release Date: 11/13/2002 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSWater Oz
I was told that the process used was blasting the particles off the metal using high powered lasers. This is supposed to create the minute particle size, therefore making it absorbable. This link details the mineral content of the water of life http://www.sunstoneherbals.com/wol.htm I found that in general, http://www.sunstoneherbals.com provide more detail about the products than www.wateroz.com . Jannette Just like when I tried to get the list of the 70 or 80+ minerals in Water of Life...if they know that there are that many minerals in there then surely there must be a list somewhere of the minerals. Otherwise, how would you know. I am perplexed at the lack of information I am able to get. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.416 / Virus Database: 232 - Release Date: 11/6/2002 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSNeed Source of Quality DMSO
Hi all, I vaguely recall someone posting a web address and prices for DSMO recently. However, I can't find it in the archives (too many posts and too many subjects with the same subject). I did a search, but seem to come up with sites stating gels for external use only. Where can I buy pharmaceutical grade pure DMSO (powder?) at a reasonable price? TIA, Jannette -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSDMSO and Skin tags (Warts)
Has anyone had experience with CS/DMSO mix for skin tags (or warts to some) over an extensive area, eg chest, shoulders, face, neck, torso? If so, what was the proportion of the CS/DMSO mix, and the PPM fro the CS? How much, how often applied? How long did it take to see results? Did the skin tags dry up or dissolve? Did they become more unsightly before shrinking, etc? I know this is not a pleasant topic, but please share if you can. If you prefer, you can respond privately, any response will be appreciated. TIA, Jannette -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS Brain Barrier
This information directly contradicts the testimonies of CS used with a carrier (DMSO) for multiple sclerosis and other auto-immune disorders. Any comments Nancy? Jannette - Original Message - From: Charles Sutton To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 6:39 PM Subject: CSCS Brain Barrier This is the only reference I could find on CS toxicity to brain cells. If this is true then do not use DMSO with CS. It will carry it right across the blood brain barrier within seconds of oral or topical administration. If anyone has any information on this subject it would be of great help on this list. Thanksdirect replies also appreciated.. http://colloidalsilver.hypermart.net/silver/faq.html Silver can be toxic to nerve cells in the brain and spinal cord, but is normally prevented from entering those areas by the blood-brain barrier. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.416 / Virus Database: 232 - Release Date: 11/6/2002 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: 99.99%
I concur! I ordered some gold wire on Thursday, and it is here midday Monday, without express shipping charges! The prices are also great. Jannette - Original Message - From: Chip Hoyle cho...@hampsuites.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 3:31 PM Subject: Re: CSRe: 99.99% Try ccsilver.com-they stock . silver in 12 ga at $4.95 per foot. They ship quickly too. Chip --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.410 / Virus Database: 231 - Release Date: 10/31/2002 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?
There is a theory that the brain requires a lot of magnesium for proper functioning, and that many Alzheimer's victims are very deficient in magnesium. In some instances, aluminum can be used as a substitute for magnesium, so the magnesium deprived brain draws the aluminum from the various body tissues in order to substitute it for the needed magnesium - hence the wide incidence of high aluminum levels in the brains of Alzheimer's Disease sufferers. This might also explain why some get Alzheimer's disease, and others do not (baring genetic factors), in seemingly similar situations. Interestingly, in the US, aprox. 95% of the population has some degree of magnesium deficiency. BTW, more than 50% of the magnesium found naturally in many raw foods is destroyed by heat (even blanching vegetables destroys 80% in some cases), so unless you eat a predominantly raw diet, a magnesium supplement is advisable, even if you regularly eat a magnesium-rich diet. And take some Cilantro! Jannette I love English tea, and learned from my supplier that tea plants pull in a lot of aluminum from the soil. I was curious about this apropos aluminum and Alzheimer's disease. I still drink my tea, understanding that aluminum (aluminium to British types) is everywhere. Whether it gets into the brain via foodstuffs, I do not know. Whether cilantro can scavenge it from the brain, as Dr. Y. Omura claims, I do not know, but believe. JBB --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.410 / Virus Database: 231 - Release Date: 10/31/2002 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSUh Oh...Blue Fingernails
I have also heard that Water-Oz Silver has produced Argyria symptoms in a few of it's users. As a matter of fact, what I heard was that almost all recent argyria cases from silver supplementation were connected to Water-Oz. Colloidal IS the way to go for safety. Paul, did you recently have any excessive sun exposure? If you did, that may account for the fact that the blueness was so suddenly apparent. Go easy on the cs for a while and when you restart, keep it below 1oz for a while. Even the best things can do harm in excess. As a fellow MSer, I empathize with your impatience to be well. Take care of yourself. Blessings, Jannette If I'm not mistaken, someone who was once an active member of this list believes she developed argyria from the Water Oz product. Someone here may recall the details on this. Regards, Catherine --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.410 / Virus Database: 231 - Release Date: 11/1/2002 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?
Frank, I would not call the use of CS as a Cure, but rather a control of Lupus. In fact, IMHO, this statement can be applied to a number of autoimmune conditions. There is a school of thought that MS, Lupus, Sarcoidosis, R. Arthritis and a few others are primarily caused, not by our immune systems going crazy, but by the immune system's attempt to eliminate a virus or pathogen deep in the tissues of the organ being attacked. In these cases, CS will take care of the virus/pathogen immediately present, and if exposure to these substances never happens again, then in time the damage, if not too severe can be repaired, and subscequently reveresed. Recently there have been some significant studies where onset attacks have been treated with some unusual broad spectrum antibiotics, with great success. In most cases they expect to have to repeat the antibiotic treatment some time in the future. IMHO, this ties in completely with the diet-based cures theory, as it appears that in many cases the virus/pathogen cannot be identified, and that is because there is NONE! The immune response appears to have been triggered by common substances that the body has erroneuously identified as virus/pathogen. Most often these common substances are foods, such as gluten, wheat, corn, dairy, potatoes etc. The theory behind this is that some virus/pathogens disguise themselves as these food molecules, and once the immune systems Natural Killer cells out the disguised invaders (known as lectins), any molecules even resembling these invaders are routed out, hence the body starts attacking itself, and the disease is back. Both these theories make perfect sense to me, so there is my personal auto-immune cure: 1) Kill any viral/pathogen infection with abx. or preferably CS in the most efficient way. 2) Re-educate the immune system, so it can distinguish friend from foe. IMHO, this is best accomplished by a course of immune system infopeptides. (Yes, this does exist). 3) Avoid the offending easily imitated food molecules, such as gluten, wheat, corn, etc. so that the body gets a chance to repair the damage of the attacks, if it can, and to at the very least, prevent further damage. Again, IMHO, this is best accomplished by following the blood type diet, where your food choices are dictated by your blood type, therefore your digestive system will only have to contend with food that it can handle, and only properly processed food molecules will pass into the body tissues, and the immune system will be less likely to react inappropriately. To those of you that would pooh-hooh the blood type diet, bear in mind one thing, our boddies are created with maximum efficiency, purpose and order. If blood type and digestion have no relation at all, why would the gene controlling blood type be located in the midst of the genes that control digestion? As an aside, in horses, the genes controlling blood type are located with the genes that control coat color. In essence, the blood type diet is the practical application of the study of Lectinolgy, which is getting a lot of validation in Europe, etc. 4) Adopt a positive mental attitude regarding the auto-immune condition, using methods like EFT (Emotion Freedom Technique). This will help to keep the body (and Soul) in proper working order, and delay/prevent relapses. This is my take on the cure of most auto-immune conditions. I am not a professional scientist, (and no one would mistake me for one! LOL ) and have used almost all simple laymen terms, but the principles are basically sound, and there is a ton of references out there to back-up my theories. For myself, this has been the control of my MS, Fibromyalgia, carpel tunnel syndrone and CFS. After 6 years of wheelchairs, walkers, canes, blurry vision, etc, I can now begin to envision a time when I might become a useful productive member of society again. I have almost completed one year of NO hospitalizations, great decrease in prescription meds, and even periods of BOREDOM!! There is no magic bullet for auto-immune conditions, which makes sense, as there is no one cause. All MHO. Jannette - Original Message - From: f.capezzuto To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 12:55 AM Subject: Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS? Depending on the cause of the Lupus. Lupus itself is not a single disease. It's not a disease that has one cause. Some of the things that can cause Lupus are: - Iron Overload. - Infections like HIV and Lyme Disease. - Reactions to drugs. - Genetic metabolic disorder. - Reaction to a chemical, like DDT or a pesticide. - Vaccine reaction. Even a food allergy to bread can cause Lupus like symptoms. Diagnoses usually happens after they find a butterfly rash and elevated ANA, and SED rate. Now, with CS, to be honest. It won't work for all cases for Lupus for a cure. Like If you have a bread allergy, or a reaction to a drug. You can take CS till the cows come home, and it
Re: CSSea Silver radio ad
Connie, Areyou using Internet Explorer? The page will only open in IE. Netscape will open here: http://www.truehope.com/index6.html How do you know Quackwatch is looking for them? Jannette Subject: Re: CSSea Silver radio ad BUT, I can't get the home page to work maybe just a problem on my end? I see Quackwatch is even looking for/at them!! -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSea Silver radio ad
Yes, using Netscape I clicked on the flashing link, and the next link and everything worked ok. I then went back using IE and also had no problems. Quackwatch; Hhhmmm. Interesting! I think that the ingredients should not cost $250.00 p/mth for 8 months, then $150.00 thereafter! Seems too expensive for hog food to me. If farmers paid these prices, would pork cost less than $50.00 p/lb? I think that they are making an unethical amount of profit here. I don't doubt that it works, as I do believe that nutritional deficiencies can result in a sick liver, thyroid, brain etc. I feel personally blessed that my own nutritional deficiencies have not resulted in a brain injury, although since I do have multiple Sclerosis, who knows? Jannette http://www.healthwatcher.net/Quackerywatch/Synergy/evaluation-1.html I did a google search to find them initially. Unfortunately, the first page of the google search came up as much against them as proponents of them. I am using IE. Were you able to get the home page to work? I can view their home page, but clicking on anything there produces no results, just sits there on the homepage. Connie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFw: HEALlix Newsletter Vol 15
New Page 1Ron, From what I've read on the website, it appears that this product is a fulvic acid/silver combination. I think that the silver is cs, as all the other minerals in fulvic acid are colloidal - to me it's just a marketting ploy to supposedly improve thier product. I think this product is in direct competition with Sea Silver, and disasociation from Colloidal Silver. Just MHO! Jannette - Original Message - From: ronwilson To: CS Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 12:59 AM Subject: CSFw: HEALlix Newsletter Vol 15 Some how receiver this today. Sounds off the wall and full of crap but does any one know any thing about fulvic acid connection? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSTestimonial and a CS Generator Question
Linda, welcome! I'm also relatively new to this group and to making my own cs. I just purchased a Pride Communications PS50 generator, which can make colloidal silver, gold and copper. I did a lot of research, especially after a disappointing first purchase of an overpriced battery-operated unit. There are some battery-operated units that are great for the price, such as Sunstone Herbals, some great CS only units, such as SilverGen's units. I went with PrideComm's because I do purchase these colloids anyway, so, as they say, in for a penny, in for a pound. I have still not sorted out the Heat/Cold water controversy for smallest particle size yet, but as you hang out here, you'll learn a lot, and be in a better position to make up your own mind regarding this aspect. Just remember, distilled water home-made CS seems to work effectively and safely at less than optimum small particle size, and with moderate usage, argyria is pretty much a very distant concern. For me personally, being sensitive to almost all classes of prescription, CS is a Godsend! Blessings, Jannette I'm new here, but CS has worked wonders for me. I suffer from 40-50 (a large amount) bladder polyps My question is about CS generators. There's lots of conflicting information out there regarding homemade generators and those costing up to $600, size of the CS suspension, etc. Is there really that much fluctuation in quality is it salespitch? And, can a CS generator also produce collodial gold and copper depending upon which one is placed into it?, Linda -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSColumbia Univ. seeks feedback on CAM
Columbia University has conducted many test on CAM products, and in many cases has deliberately used/applied the product being tested in manners contrary to the recommended methodology of the product/herb. When the results were less than expected, they have very LOUDLY declared the results, making sure media coverage was ample. In the instances where the product performed as purported, there has not been much fanfare, and the matter ended there. IMHO, participation in their CAM study will not result in an independent, impartial review, but will be used to further the claim that only allopathic medicine can be trusted. Again, just MHO. Jannette While I applaud the stated goal of their request for feedback, I got'ta question their track record and who will really benefit and at what cost. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe where we are from
Westchester County, New York , USA - Jannette Abel
Re: CSRe: the blue senator
Dean, The email for Silver Facts is steve6...@attbi.com steve6...@attbi.com, per the website. Is this the one that bounced? Also, the correct link Stan Jones' comment is: http://www.silverfacts.org/pages/jones.html I tried both links, and they both seem to be working right now. Jannette From: Dean Miller dtmil...@midiowa.net Hi Laura, I hope you get a response from Stan (I presume he's mighty busy right now). The email I sent to silverfacts bounced. I have an HTML copy of the web page this FAQ came from, if you want it (I assume I can send it all right). -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSIan's piece on CS
Bill, As a dark-skinned person, I would call turning grey, or blue a LOSS of pigment! :-) No offence taken. Many 3rd world countries are gorged by expensive, ineffective, dangerous, and even illegal (in the US) drugs, which they usually cannot afford. ...And I think the dark-skinned peoples of the world would not mind the highly unlikely possibility of one of them adding a little pigment --... Jannette - Original Message - From: Bill Missett miss...@prodigy.net.mx To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 8:29 PM Subject: Re: CSIan's piece on CS -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPotential Virus Alert
I just got one from Chris Noel of this list. My McAfee caught it. The attachment was imbedded in the email, and the header did not indicate an attachment. Chris Noel, check your computer with an up to date virus scanner. Be careful folks! Jannette - Original Message - From: Martha N. To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 10:26 PM Subject: Re: CSPotential Virus Alert There are a lot of viruses being sent out now. I have gotten two emails that my anti-virus program AVG picked up on. I got these two in less than a weeks time. AVG from Grisoft is really good.http://www.grisoft.com/ Martha **
Re: CSUnidentified subject!
Susan, Here is a good source of 12-14-gauge . silver wire http://www.ccsilver.com/silver/fines.html#four There is a minimum $20.00 per order, but if you don't use a lot you probably can split an order with someone you know. Jannette - Original Message - From: Garrett, Susan L (NSE) garret...@everett.navy.mil To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 12:28 PM Subject: CSUnidentified subject! Does anyone know where I can purchase some 14 gage silver wire for a homemade machine? Susan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSNature's Treasure Silver Machine
Hi All, I'm considering purchasing this company's CS generator. The Silver Machine seems to be not only capable of producing high quality CS, but also does that at a really good price! This is very important to me because not only do I have severe health issues, but I also am on Disability as a result of these issues, so cost is a big consideration. The info on the website sounds great, but is a little sketchy on some of the details, IMHO. As this will be an international purchase for me, I am wondering if anyone on this list has any usage experience with this machine and would like to share the info (good/bad), makes no difference. The product page on the company's website is: http://members.ozemail.com.au/~naturestreasure/silver-machine-1.html TIA for any input. Blessings and Light, Jannette PS. My apologies to everyone for not turning off my Return receipt request before posting to the group. I am a member of several newsgroups (most hosted by Yahoo ), and had never encountered this situation before.
Re: CSNature's Treasure Silver Machine
Ken, Thank you, thank you! A couple hours ago in the archives I came upon a post with a link to your websitethis just what I've been looking for, and it's stateside! The Silver Machine SOUNDED as if it was on par with the SG6, ( unfortunately, out of my budget at this time) but it had no detail to back it up. I could not decide if this was a poor presentation, or a poor product. BTW, the price is $166.00AUD, which converts to approx. $91.00USD. Before I posted to the list I emailed Nature's Treasure with some similar questions, but have not recieved a response yet. Of course, my emails lacked the technical depth of your critique of the info on the site, but I got the giste of the inadequate info. I will reserve final opinion as I'm still waiting for a reply. I will also check out wishgranted.com. Thanks again, I really needed some pointers in this direction. Blessings and Light, Jannette From: Ode Coyote If you live in the USA [or even if you don't] silverpuppy and silvergen have both the price and the technology beat hands down with constant current, constant stirring, auto off and concentration flexability that's based on something. Next in line would be wishgranted and a few others. thing for any support you might need. This site tells you nothing much and doesn't even have a visual of the product. Like, what is it?? $166 for what? I'd want to know. Ken -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMalaria and CS
Don, I also have (had ?) malaria for several years (decades). I am using a zapper and CS to clear up this problem. During my purchase of the Terminator zapper, I spoke with Carol (co-owner of Don Croft's Terminator Zapper), and she mentioned that she had just recently returned from a trip to Africa where they used the zapper for AIDS and Malaria with great success! If you email her/Don Croft, I'm sure you can get more detailed information. Here are the links: zappe...@earthlink.net http://www.worldwithoutparasites.org/ In a nutshell she recommends to zap and drink CS! Blessings and Light, Jannette I have Malaria and have had it off and on for many years, Its a difficult bug to knock out of the cells once you have it. Do any of you know if CS will effect and kill Malaria parasites? I am willing to run blood studies on myself to prove or disprove its effectiveness if there is any good evidence that it indeed does work against Malaria.Any anecdotal or otherwise studies would be much appreciated! There seems to be a body of evidence promoting CS for every bug out there and I have to say after careful testing this hasnt proven the case to me at all. I have treated animals with certain bacterial infections for weeks and months with no good results in regards to many species of bacteria. I have tests being run at a lab right now regarding effectiveness against Salmonella sp.I will post the results here once I know more. Thanks Don Wells -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSDistilled Water Purity
Hi Marshall, This is my first post to the group, and I'm also new to the home-made colloidal silver world. I've been reading the archives, and current posts...boy, you guys are truly a wealth of information! I received my machine (a Hulda Clark model) this week, and so far have been quite dissatisfied with the batches I've made. I called a company (Silvergen, I believe, Dr. Clark's company was not reachable) and found out that the reason for the black/gray roots on the electrodes was that the water was oxidized. I then checked my distilled water, and sure enough it stated that it was ozoneated. This IS Walgreen's brand. Do they have 2 types? TIA, Jannette - Original Message - From: silversw...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2002 1:38 PM Subject: Re: CSDistilled Water Purity For all those that want to argue and bick about Distilled water purity, I have just tested the Walgreens distilled water and it has a reading of 000 ppm. Therefore walgreens distilled water is the winner for purity! -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSDistilled Water Purity
Trem, My layperson error. I was told that the water might be ozonated (which it is), and I concluded that it was oxidized, or, to be more specific, causing oxidation in the CS processing... (to my layperson mind, meaning that it - the water, was now contaminated). Sorry, I did not mean to imply that I was given wrong info...I think the info I was given was accurate, and made me realize that I need to be careful about my distilled water sources. Sorry again about not being specific (or detailed enough) in my statement. Jannette - Original Message - From: Trem t...@silvergen.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2002 4:11 PM Subject: Re: CSDistilled Water Purity Hi Jannette, I don't think you called us. We wouldn't have said such a thing. We do tell people to try to find water that isn't ozonated but that's about it. We sure wouldn't tell someone the water was oxidized. Sorry but you can't pin it on us. Trem - Original Message - From: Jannette McKoy-Abel je...@optonline.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2002 11:17 AM Subject: Re: CSDistilled Water Purity Hi Marshall, This is my first post to the group, and I'm also new to the home-made colloidal silver world. I've been reading the archives, and current posts...boy, you guys are truly a wealth of information! I received my machine (a Hulda Clark model) this week, and so far have been quite dissatisfied with the batches I've made. I called a company (Silvergen, I believe, Dr. Clark's company was not reachable) and found out that the reason for the black/gray roots on the electrodes was that the water was oxidized. I then checked my distilled water, and sure enough it stated that it was ozoneated. This IS Walgreen's brand. Do they have 2 types? TIA, Jannette - Original Message - From: silversw...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2002 1:38 PM Subject: Re: CSDistilled Water Purity For all those that want to argue and bick about Distilled water purity, I have just tested the Walgreens distilled water and it has a reading of 000 ppm. Therefore walgreens distilled water is the winner for purity! -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSDistilled Water Purity
Marshall, I live in New York, Westchester county - a suburb of New York City. Jannette I think you will find virtually all distilled water is ozonated. I have heard Walgreens an Walmart are good in some areas, but you HAVE to check the supplier on them, as they are both really bad in this area. Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com