RE: CS>Tea Tree Oil for Nail Fungus

[O2 Communication]

and another little tip ... after years of battling with really weak nails
which peeled and split - I was advised to rub Vaseline (petroleum jelly -
helluva inexpensive!) into them on a daily basis for two weeks and it worked
like a charm - no more problems.  I also purchased a proper file as emery
boards can be rough and problematic themselves.

Yvonne
;o)

-Original Message-
From: Sharon L. House [mailto:sho...@up.net]
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 1999 5:33 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Tea Tree Oil for Nail Fungus


My husband has previously tried tea tree oil on his nails FAITHFULLY for a
few months. Nothing happened. Plus the tea tree oil smells to high heaven.
It didn't bother him much as he's lost so much of his sense of smell (I
smell better than he does :-) but it bothered me a lot so he discontinued
it. The CS is doing such a great job on his nails that I can see no point
in doing anything different.

Sharon


>Sharon,
>We cured my daughter's toe nail fungus by using tea tree oil every
>morning and every evening for about 6 months.  When it was almost gone, we
>got a little less consistent and it started coming back.  This site made me
>understand and inspired me to continue until it was gone for good.
>Apparently vinegar will also work, but you MUST DO IT TWICE EVERY DAY AND
>CONTINUE FOR AN EXTRA MONTH AFTER IT IS TOTALLY GONE!
>http://bcn.net/~stoll/fungus.html";>Fungus
>http://bcn.net/~stoll/fungus.html
>Karen



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CS>RE:a little grey

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Hi!

Has anyone heard how Donna is doing with her grey condition?
 - Donna please keep us posted on your progress.


Yvonne
:o)


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RE: CS>Marshall/Electric Blanket / O.T.

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... and thank you ... very very interesting 
Yvonne
:o)

-Original Message-
From: Mercer [mailto:birds...@bendcable.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 1999 7:11 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Marshall/Electric Blanket / O.T.


Marshall,

Thank you, and thank you.

Jo

I use a simple set of L rods made from coat hangers and soda straws.  Do a
>search for dowsing to find lots of information on how to dowse and make a
>variety of rods.  After a little training so you can get in contact with
your
>subcouncious, then you can dowse for the lines, and also ask if they are
>positive or negative.  Don't sleep on either, negative will drain energy
from
>you and make you sick, and positive will keep you energized so you can't
sleep.
>Also check these archives, much discussion was done on this a few months
ago.
>
>Marshall
>
>Mercer wrote:
>
>> This fascinates me. How can I tell if there is an existing energy line?
>>
>> Jo
>>
>>  Don't
>> >sleep on any energy lines, negative or positive.  I found one running
>> through my wife's
>> >side of the bed about 3 months ago and moved the bed less than a foot so
it
>> is off the
>> >edge, and she went from very bad insomnia for over 5 years to sleeping
like
>> a kitten
>> >immediately.
>> >
>> >Marshall
>>
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RE: CS>Electric Blanket / O.T.

[O2 Communication]

Hello !

Could the mimxed magnetic fields in one's car affect cs whilst it is being
transported at all and if so, is there some way to counteract this?

Thankx!
Yvonne
:o)

-Original Message-
From: Fred [mailto:f...@health2us.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 1999 7:10 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Electric Blanket / O.T.


Actually, you would be better off to turn off your main
circuit breaker (except when you wish to see at night,
wash clothes, heat water, make coffee, cook, etc.) and
avoid using your car which has many mixed magnetic
fields (unless you want to drive someplace) and keep
away from electric poles and their wires as they usually
have very high voltages and thus high fields (unless you
want to go outside sometime!). As a further protection
from the earths magnetic fields always sit in a tall chair,
and if you do drive try to keep on the dark side of the earth
to avoid the strong particle radiations from the sun!
OH, never mind, just forget it and be happy!

f...@health2us.com

>Really?

Jo
>>Not unless you unplug it too, I think...


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RE: CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V99 #808

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Come in please Carol 
Yvonne
:o)

-Original Message-
From: Robert Ratliff [mailto:bobratl...@iname.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 1999 5:54 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V99 #808


Actually Carol has more than on word. Ask and see.
Robert

> -Original Message-
> From: Sam Earle [mailto:sear...@prodigy.net]
> Sent: Monday, December 06, 1999 9:03 PM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V99 #808
>
>
> Karen:
>
> One word: MSM.
> Ask Carol Ryan.
>
> Sam
>
> > To All,
> > Does anyone know of a way to stop Glaucoma from getting any
> worse?  My
> > father-in-law has been using the traditional medical approach
> for a number
> of
> > years and was just told that he will probably be blind within a year.
> Thanks
> > for any help you can provide!
> > Karen
> >
> >
> > To the person who asked about electric blankets:
> > We used to have one.  But after reading a book about
> preventing cancer
> I
> > put it away and have never used it since.  I looked for the
> page to quote
> but
> > couldn't find it.
> >  Karen
> >
> >
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RE: CS>alittle gray

[O2 Communication]

Would anyone know if argyria is a gradually developed condition or just
"bing" white to grey?

Yvonne
:o)

-Original Message-
From: Ivan Anderson [mailto:i...@win.co.nz]
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 1999 1:08 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>alittle gray


Donna,

Sorry to hear about your complexion. Stopping CS ingestion would seem
to be a wise decision at this time, although a grey complexion can be
caused by a number factors other than silver ingestion.

Unless you have taken large amounts of CS in the past months it is
likely that the change in skin colour is due to some other condition.
However, it has been reported that those people who are deficient in
Vit E or Selenium and those who take large doses of Selenium or have
damaged livers are more at risk of Silver toxicity.

"Generalized argyria is indicated by slate-gray skin and hair
colouring, silver finger nails, a blue halo around the cornea and in
the conjunctiva of the eye, disturbance of dark adaptation and
turbidity of the anterior lens capsule. The tissue content and
distribution pattern of silver deposition is a function of the intake
route, quantity and chemical form."

Not a happy time for you, and I hope the professional advice you seek
will resolve the matter, and I trust that the skin discolouration is
the result of some readily reversed condition.

Our hearts go out to you Donna,

Ivan.



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RE: CS>Re: Carol/Olive leaf

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Dear Carol

-Original Message-
From: Katarina Wittich [mailto:kato...@mindspring.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 1999 12:09 AM
To: Silver A
Subject: CS>Re: Carol/Olive leaf


> Wow Carol,
> how wonderful that you have had the courage to help so many other people
> turn their lives around. There should be more of you! Especially because
> then you'd have more time to share with us!! So don't feel pressured to
get
> us the info -- but I appreciate it hugely and look forward to hearing what
> you have to say.
> Take care,
> Katarina
>
>
>> Olive LeafOlive Leaf Respsone:
>> Hi everyone, I am sorry I did not realize that there was such a response
=
>> to Olive Leaf.  I have been very busy taking care of my husband who has =
>> myasthenia Gravis, a muscle paralysis disease and my 87 year old father =
>> who opted to go nutritional rather than surgery on his eye that has a =
>> cataract, glaucoma, a blocked retina, a mini stroke in it, and a blocked
=
>> carotid artery.  For both of them what I have done would be called a =
>> miracle because they have both improved so much.  I know its not a =
>> miracle its just simply the knowledge that if your give your body what =
>> it needs it will heal itself.  My husband spent most his home time in =
>> bed for the last year.  Colloidal Silver got him out and mowing the =
>> lawn.  A friend of mine designs extremely potent, organic supplements =
>> that have promted my husband to say he almost feels normal again.   =
>> Doctors told my family they would probably have to take my fathers eye =
>> out if he did not have their surgery.  So much for the EXPERTS
>> Well, as for Olive Leaf Extract I will have the Master Herbalist on line
=
>> to answer all questions because he is so informed and he owns the =
>> company that makes  the Olive Leaf I buy.  Right now it 10 PM so I will =
>> call him in the AM.  I use to buy East Park Research Olive Leaf also, =
>> but switched to Ameridan.  He does not spray the Olive Leaf leaves.  His
=
>> product is high potency.  He is not a business man he is into healing.  =
>> I have the utmost respect for Richard Hall.  I don"t mean to hold off =
>> for another day but your health and questions are to important and there
=
>> is no obligation to buy from just to learn. I know I told some of you I =
>> would tell you what formulas I have come up with to help my father and =
>> husband buy I was so busy researching and learning what to do for them =
>> that I never got around to sharing what I have learned.  I will now take
=
>> the time to put it on the silver list.   My sister who is stage four =
>> cancer is doing pretty good too, I have her on some specially designed =
>> formulas that after chemo and radiation treatments the nurse took some =
>> tests and was amazed that she did not need to have some injections that =
>> other chemo patients.do.  Now that she is not taking the rest of chemo =
>> she is just taking nutrition she is perking up.  Stay tuned.
>> I threw the nutritional book at her and she is doing it, with the help =
>> of my friend the nutritional formulator.
>> Carol Ryan
>
>
>


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RE: CS>Re: Carol/Olive leaf

[O2 Communication]

Dear Carol

This is fantastic - looking forward to hearing of your usccessful
ministrations - well done on overcoming some amazing odds.   This is
heartening for Donna too (the chelation therapy per separate posting sounds
very positive).   Thinking of you Donna - perhaps you've been selected to be
the catalyst for some amazing breakthrough - I know you'll come through
this.
Love,
Yvonne
:o)

-Original Message-
From: Katarina Wittich [mailto:kato...@mindspring.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 1999 12:09 AM
To: Silver A
Subject: CS>Re: Carol/Olive leaf


> Wow Carol,
> how wonderful that you have had the courage to help so many other people
> turn their lives around. There should be more of you! Especially because
> then you'd have more time to share with us!! So don't feel pressured to
get
> us the info -- but I appreciate it hugely and look forward to hearing what
> you have to say.
> Take care,
> Katarina
>
>
>> Olive LeafOlive Leaf Respsone:
>> Hi everyone, I am sorry I did not realize that there was such a response
=
>> to Olive Leaf.  I have been very busy taking care of my husband who has =
>> myasthenia Gravis, a muscle paralysis disease and my 87 year old father =
>> who opted to go nutritional rather than surgery on his eye that has a =
>> cataract, glaucoma, a blocked retina, a mini stroke in it, and a blocked
=
>> carotid artery.  For both of them what I have done would be called a =
>> miracle because they have both improved so much.  I know its not a =
>> miracle its just simply the knowledge that if your give your body what =
>> it needs it will heal itself.  My husband spent most his home time in =
>> bed for the last year.  Colloidal Silver got him out and mowing the =
>> lawn.  A friend of mine designs extremely potent, organic supplements =
>> that have promted my husband to say he almost feels normal again.   =
>> Doctors told my family they would probably have to take my fathers eye =
>> out if he did not have their surgery.  So much for the EXPERTS
>> Well, as for Olive Leaf Extract I will have the Master Herbalist on line
=
>> to answer all questions because he is so informed and he owns the =
>> company that makes  the Olive Leaf I buy.  Right now it 10 PM so I will =
>> call him in the AM.  I use to buy East Park Research Olive Leaf also, =
>> but switched to Ameridan.  He does not spray the Olive Leaf leaves.  His
=
>> product is high potency.  He is not a business man he is into healing.  =
>> I have the utmost respect for Richard Hall.  I don"t mean to hold off =
>> for another day but your health and questions are to important and there
=
>> is no obligation to buy from just to learn. I know I told some of you I =
>> would tell you what formulas I have come up with to help my father and =
>> husband buy I was so busy researching and learning what to do for them =
>> that I never got around to sharing what I have learned.  I will now take
=
>> the time to put it on the silver list.   My sister who is stage four =
>> cancer is doing pretty good too, I have her on some specially designed =
>> formulas that after chemo and radiation treatments the nurse took some =
>> tests and was amazed that she did not need to have some injections that =
>> other chemo patients.do.  Now that she is not taking the rest of chemo =
>> she is just taking nutrition she is perking up.  Stay tuned.
>> I threw the nutritional book at her and she is doing it, with the help =
>> of my friend the nutritional formulator.
>> Carol Ryan
>
>
>


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CS>bunions

[O2 Communication]

Hi there!

Does anyone out there have a remedy for bunions - aside from the painful
hacking/sawing operation?

I have a colleague who's been throught the op several years ago and they've
grown right back in the same spot!

Wondered if there's some "magic remedy" like, for eg. "zapping" them with a
bit of current (hopeful hey!)

Thanks!
Yvonne
:o)


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RE: CS>Re: Yvonne/sinus/FAQ

[O2 Communication]

ation of
anything because the wart was too near my eye.

Warts: A friend's daughter, T.T. had two planter's warts on one foot. After
2 nights of colloidal minerals (with colloidal silver) soaks to the warts,
they turned black. After 3 weeks, the warts completely fell off. No medical
intervention was sought. N.B.


PETS:

My Chihuahua, Buddy, got an unidentified upper respiratory infection which
included a cough with clear sputum. I treated him with CS for about 3 weeks.
The infection was well controlled and completely resolved. N.B.

My adored Tonkinese cat developed a huge tumor a year ago : x-rays revealed
a huge growth and the prognosis was not good.  She couldn't even jump
without losing her balance.   It was at this time that I first heard about
colloidal silver and I set to work immediately, giving her about a teaspoon
of 10ppm per day (I added it to her water and food).  Within three weeks the
tumor had disappeared and today she is a happy, healthy girl with a regained
waistline! Yvonne

Sky (female 8 year old) was into a fight with 2 other dogs. She was badly
mauled. Sky spent 1 1/2 hours in surgery. When she came home she did not get
better.  She had major corruption, smell and drainage. The third day after
the vet visit I got hold of some Cs from my chiropractor. We sprayed her
wounds. That afternoon the corruption went down and she started scabbing for
the first time. As of this writing we are spraying her externally 2 or 3
times a day and gave her some internally in her water. She is healing
nicely. It has been 2 1/2 weeks and we expect complete recovery in about a
month. -- didn't know ppm. Robert Ratliff

Terry and Maureen cured their dog of a painful case of spondylitis which was
not responding to drugs by putting a tablespoon of CS in his evening meal
for several months.


THINGS NOT TO DO WITH COLLOIDAL SILVER

Do not add to bread dough to prevent mold, it will kill the yeast, and it
won't rise.

Do not dump into your compost heap, bacteria do the work.

Do not give by mouth to cows, or other animals that have multiple stomachs,
and do not use on hay or straw to be fed to these animals. They require
microbes in their first stomach to digest their food.  Same with honeybees.

Do not give to anyone that has a pacemaker or defibrillator. Colloidal
metals can short out these devices.

Although it works well when added to the soil of house plants to prevent
mold, there is some question about it killing the nitrogen fixing bacteria
when added to garden soil.  This needs to be explored.  Otherwise it makes a
great viracide and fungacide on plants and crops.

Do not use CS as a treatment to an established aquarium, as it will
*destroy* the biological filter made up of bacteria in the gravel and/or
filter system. The resulting dump of metabolites *and* the rapid rise in
contamination after the filter (literally) dies, will make the tank
uninhabitable very quickly.
Similar caution is observed with antibiotics commonly used to treat
aquariums, so this is nothing unique to CS.


The information contained is provided for information only and may not
be construed as medical advice or instruction. No action or inaction should
be taken based solely on the contents of this compilation. Please consult
your health professional for any matter relating to your health. Readers who
fail to consult with appropriate health authorities assume the risk of any
injuries.

*For more testimonials you can go to
http://silver-lightning.com/testimonials1.html and look under "more
testimonials"


> Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 15:45:34 +0200
> From: O2 Communication 
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: CS>Sinus
> Message-id: <000101bf3682$321a5c60$0900a...@yvonne>
> Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
> Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit
>
> Hello Listers,
>
> Has anyone had success with sinus - in particular with colloidal silver -
> but
> all suggestions most welcome!
>
> Many thanks
> Yvonne
> :o)


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CS>Sinus

[O2 Communication]

Hello Listers,

Has anyone had success with sinus - in particular with colloidal silver -
but
all suggestions most welcome!

Many thanks
Yvonne
:o)


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RE: CS>Re: Brooks/pulser

[O2 Communication]

Very important to ensure that your liquid intake is increased whilst
"pulsing".

Go well!
Yvonne


-Original Message-
From: Katarina Wittich [mailto:kato...@mindspring.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 1999 7:40 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Re: Brooks/pulser


Dear Brooks,

Wow, that's really interesting. I would trust your experiments more than my
doctors hearsay -- even though he claims it is from the horses mouth. I will
actually tell him this and see what he says and get more details on this
study that he said proves it doesn't happen. My guess is that it was a test
tube study --not in vivo.

Thanks for the warning -- it's funny -- I'm sort of uncomfortable with the
pulser anyhow -- I was using it for a while and don't really know why I
stopped -- it didn't make me feel better or worse -- although if I wore it
for much more than two hours I started to feel kind of buzzy and dehydrated.
Maybe it's because I was also using my herbs -- as per my doctor. Very
interesting.
Thanks again,
Katarina


>  Dear Katarina.
> I would be VERY careful in my appraisal of your doctor's
counsel
> that cell poration is not to be regarded as a major consideration.  We
have,
> repeatedly, been able to induce "toxin-based" unconsciousness in canines,
in
our
> experimental researches relating to this phenomena..  Fortunately, we were
> equipped to detoxify them, all, before permanent damage occurred.  Such
> gneralizations, in the absence of supporting documentationdo appear to
be
> quite unprofessional..and potentially dangerous, if taken as proven
fact.
> Sincerely..
> Brooks Bradley.
> Mar


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RE: CS>Re: H>B>/pulser

[O2 Communication]

Yes and electroporation apparently magnifies effects - for example, one
aspirin might have the effect of 20 or one beer would have the effect of 20
beers on the system!

Yvonne
:o)

-Original Message-
From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@execonn.com]
Sent: Monday, November 22, 1999 11:20 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Re: H>B>/pulser


donna2...@aol.com wrote: Katarina,

>   What does electoporation mean exactly?  If I could just quit smoking I
> would love to try one of these devices.  I still have the one that someone
> made me and have never tried it.
> Donna

>From what I understand the current causes cells to become more open to
substances
passing into them.  Any toxins, or drugs then tend to have more effect than
they
normally would.  According to Beck, a friend of his died after eating garlic
and
zapping with his unit.  I have not heard that the Clark unit can cause the
same
thing, but I really don't know.

Marshall


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RE: CS>Ptemarin

[O2 Communication]

Remember also that anti-perspirant deos contribute to breast cancer - they
block off the natural 'elimination of toxins' process.
Yvonne
:o0

-Original Message-
From: Liz Pavek [mailto:liz...@frontiernet.net]
Sent: Sunday, November 21, 1999 6:32 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Ptemarin


I had a "Pan-hysterectomy" fourteen years ago. Everything was removed, and I
was placed immediately on the strongest premarin they make.  Ten years
later, I lost a breast to breast cancer, and the doctors admitted that the
premarin was probably responsible. Yet they continue to prescribe it.  Did
you know that premarin is the most heavily prescribed medication in the
United States?  Is it any wonder there's been such an increase in breast
cancer?

Liz


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RE: CS>jewel weed, fleas, soy oil

[O2 Communication]

Great news re. fleas - should surely work for dogs as well?

During nutrition training some years ago, I leanred from Dr Don Lawson (USA)
that one should only cook with olive oil and butter (monosaturates) as
compared with the polyunsaturates which, when heated, become carcinogenic...
and that's how we've cooked, very healthily ever since ...!

Yvonne:o)

-Original Message-
From: fernwo...@aol.com [mailto:fernwo...@aol.com]
Sent: Friday, November 19, 1999 3:15 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>jewel weed, fleas, soy oil


To those asking about jewel weed, here is a link with a great picture.
I
have used it all my life to prevent problems after touching poison ivy.   http://altnature.com/jewelweed.htm";>jewel weed, poison ivy, poison ivy
cure, folk medicine

As to the discussion of cats, do you know about using brewers yeast to
prevent fleas.  In PA, I give each cat 1/4 teaspoon a day mixed with canned
cat food.  I do this March through November, and they never have fleas now.
But you must start early, before there are any fleas around, or the fleas
will move off the cats onto you.

I had used Canola oil because it was recommended by Nutrition Action as
the best, until I recently read many horrible things about it.  By the way,
did you know it is in most peanut butters?  So I switched to Soy oil because
soy is supposed to be so good for you.  But now someone said there are
dangers with soy oil.  Could anyone explain what the problem is with soy
oil?
Karen


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RE: CS>vaccines

[O2 Communication]

This is of interest to me - I'm not in the USA so regulations would need to
be checked - but seem to have missed the beginning of the trail which
probably discussed why not to vaccinate.   So sorry, but if someone would
care to fill me in, I'd be most grateful.

Many thanks
Yvonne
:o0

-Original Message-
From: Scharbach [mailto:myf...@mwt.net]
Sent: Friday, November 19, 1999 3:41 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>vaccines


Dianne, I'd be happy to send the info, let me find it.   Is this of interest
to the list,
or shall I take it off forum?

Sparrow

>Hi Sparrow,
>
>I'd appreciate some clarification, lest I misunderstand my own state.  I
live
>in Connecticut and we do not have a personal/philosophical exemption here.
>We have religious (which I cannot claim for whatever reasons), and medical
is
>almost impossible to obtain.
>
>Since you say that ALL states must accept all three, I'd like to know how
to
>do that.  I am not concerned for my children, since we homeschool anyway.
I
>do have friends who choose to use the public school system and are very
>worried.
>
>I also have a friend who's daughter was denied entrance into the local
>preschool due to being non-vaccinated.  Actually, THAT friend is the one
who
>turned my family on to CS !!!
>
>Thanks for your time in advance,
>Diane



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RE: CS>Using CS in your cat bath

[O2 Communication]

Stunning!   I once saw a write-up on how to administer a pill / pills to a
cat which was hilarious - only a cat lover could appreciate these gems!
Yvonne
:o)

-Original Message-
From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@execonn.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 1999 6:25 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Using CS in your cat bath


It is probably a good idea to put CS in your dog's and cat's bath water.
Bathing
a dog is easy, but for those who have not been involved in the battle of
bathing a
cat, here is a good article on it:

HOW TO BATHE A CAT

(Jeffery LaCroix is a veterinarian with an office in Wilmington. He writes a
column for their local paper called "From Paws to Tails." Here is his
response to
a letter regarding bathing a cat.)

Cat Bathing as a Martial Art

A. Know that although the cat has the advantage of quickness and lack of
concern
for human life, you have the advantage of strength. Capitalize on that
advantage
by selecting the battlefield.  Don't try to bathe him in an open area where
he can
force
you to chase him. Pick a very small bathroom. If your bathroom is more than
four
feet square, I recommend that you get in the tub with the cat and close the
sliding glass doors as if you were about to take a shower. A simple shower
curtain
will not do. A berserk cat can shred a three-ply rubber shower curtain
quicker
than a politician can shift positions.

B. Know that a cat has claws and will not hesitate to remove all the skin
from
your body. Your advantage here is that you are smart and know how to dress
to
protect yourself. I recommend canvas overalls tucked into high-top
construction
boots, a pair of steel-mesh gloves, an army helmet, a hockey face-mask and a
long-sleeved flak jacket.

C. Use the element of surprise. Pick up your cat nonchalantly, as if to
simply
carry him to his supper dish. Cats will not usually notice your strange
attire.
They have little or no interest in fashion as a rule.

D. Once you are inside the bathroom, speed is essential to survival. In a
single
liquid motion, shut the bathroom door, step into the tub enclosure, slide
the
glass door shut, dip the cat in the water and squirt him with shampoo. You
have
begun one of the wildest 45 seconds of your life.

E. Cats have no handles. Add the fact that he now has soapy fur, the problem
is
radically compounded. Do not expect to hold on to him for more than two or
three
seconds at a time. When you have him, however, you must remember to give him
another squirt of shampoo and rub like crazy. He'll then spring free and
fall back
into the water, thereby rinsing himself off. (The national record for cats
is
three latherings, so don't expect too much.).

F. Next, the cat must be dried. Novice cat bathers always assume this part
will be
the most difficult, for humans generally are worn out at this point and the
cat is
just getting really determined. In fact, the drying is simple compared with
what
you have just been through. That's because by now the cat is
semi-permanently
affixed to your right leg. You simply pop the drain plug with your foot,
reach for
your towel and wait. Occasionally, however, the cat will end up clinging to
the
top of your army helmet. If this happens, the best thing you can do is to
shake
him loose and to encourage him toward your leg.) After all the water is
drained
from the tub, it is a simple matter to just reach down and dry the cat. In a
few
days the cat will relax enough to be removed from your leg. He will usually
have
nothing to say for about three weeks and will spend a lot of time sitting
with his
back to you. He might even become psychoceramic and develop the fixed stare
of a
plaster figurine. You will be tempted to assume his is angry. This isn't
usually
the case. As a rule, he is simply plotting ways to get through your defenses
and
injure you for life the next time you decide to give him a bath.

But at least now he smells a lot better.



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CS>FW: National Geo and filled choppers

[O2 Communication]

-Original Message-
From: O2 Communication [mailto:o2c...@global.co.za] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 1999 11:06 AM
To: silver-dig...@eskimo.com'
Subject: FW: National Geo and filled choppers



Sorry if this is a repeat - but I either missed a posting or it didn't
land!!!

Thanks!
Yvonne





Hi!

Two quickies:

1.  Did anyone see / have a copy perchance .. of an apparently wonderful
article which appeared in a National  Geographic Magazine (at a rough
estimate - some 7 or so years ago).   I believe it went into all the
different aspects of silver throughout history, including its healing
properties etc.   I tried searching the NG archives but no joy (possibly my
searching skills are lacking!!).  Sounds worth getting a-hold of.

2.  Does cs affect 'silver' fillings in the mouth at all - would silver
particles adhere to them?

thanks in anticipation .
Yvonne
:o)



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RE: CS>wet chem

[O2 Communication]

This sounds great - please keep us all posted!!1
yvonne
:o)

-Original Message-
From: M. G. Devour [mailto:mdev...@mail.id.net]
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 9:03 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>wet chem


James wrote:

> What you are describing is the way it is done.  You react the silver
>  with reagents which produce a color whose intensity varies with the
> concentration available silver. 
...
> All it would take is a high-accuracy  set of printed color patches 
> to get you in the ballpark with the Hach reagents.  I think you
> could judge it certainly to within 2 PPM and possibly within 1 PPM.

Well, I guess I shoulda asked this question more often. You guys have 
been around for months now and I didn't know you knew! 

Do you have any contact info for Hach? I should investigate.

Be well,

Mike D.

[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
[mdev...@mail.id.net   ]
[Speaking only for myself...  ]


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RE: CS>curiouser and curiouser...

[O2 Communication]

... and I recently made a strong batch for my daughter to soak her feet in
for plantars warts - using normal tap water.   What a scary-looking product
we have - it started out milky / cloudy and has over the past two days
turned a vicious purplish colour and quite opaque.  Do you think this is
safe for external use?!!
Yvonne
:o)

-Original Message-
From: Liz Pavek [mailto:liz...@frontiernet.net]
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 6:50 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>curiouser and curiouser...


I noticed a strange thing yesterday:  My last batch of CS has the usual
pale yellow color and the proper "bite," but the small bottle that I pour
off and set aside for "seed" has turned a BRIGHT yellow.  I've never seen it
this color before.  All my silver is stored in clear PETE plastic bottles.
Wha' hoppen??

Liz

RE: CS>I could not resist

[O2 Communication]

What a picture that conjures up
Yvonne
:o)

-Original Message-
From: Robert Ratliff [mailto:bobratl...@iname.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 7:16 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>I could not resist


I hear lots of wartless secretaries are  "hunt n peckers". typists that is.

Best Regards, Robert Ratliff

-Original Message-
From: Vilik Rapheles [mailto:vi...@peak.org]
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 1999 8:59 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS and warts and soldering irons


At 07:53 PM 11/9/99 -0500, you wrote:
>I'd be happy to help, but I burned both of 'em off trying to kill warts.
I'm
>typing this with my  never mind.
>
>Sam
>~~~
Oh...so that's where the word "pecker" came from...


>- Original Message -
>From: Robert Ratliff 
>To: 
>Sent: Monday, November 08, 1999 7:23 PM
>Subject: RE: CS and warts and soldering irons
>
>
>> I want a show of hands of how many are going to burn their warts off with
>a
>> soldering iron.
>>
>> Best Regards, Robert Ratliff
>> SE Tenn.
>> bobratl...@iname.com
>> ICQ 1495914
>> I didn't fight my way to the top of the food chain to be a vegetarian.
>> Few women admit their age, Few men act it!
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@execonn.com]
>> Sent: Monday, November 08, 1999 1:48 PM
>> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>> Subject: Re: CS and warts
>>
>>
>> I heard of one fellow that got a syringe and injected cs directly into
the
>> wart, and it fell of in a day or two.
>>
>> I use to burn warts off with a soldering iron.  After burning, a blister
>> would
>> form under the wart, and I would clip the whole wart off.  Wart would
>return
>> about 20% of the time, but if you followed with CS I bet it would give
>about
>> 99% reliablility.
>>
>> Marshall
>>
>> James Osbourne, Holmes wrote:
>>
>>
>>
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>

RE: CS and warts and soldering irons

[O2 Communication]

Please keep me posted - my daughter has a few on her feet (possibly exam
stress brought them on?) and we'll try whatever to get rid of them!
Thanksomuch!
Yvonne
:o)

-Original Message-
From: James Osbourne, Holmes [mailto:a...@trail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 1999 3:25 AM
To: 'silver-list@eskimo.com'
Subject: RE: CS and warts and soldering irons


Hi Sam,

The one on my hand looks like what others have said is a plantar wart on
the foot.   Its penetration of skin and fascia is obvious, with minor
amateur exploratory surgery.

Gad, what we on this list do must freak the pro medical lurkers!

Without ever having seen a text which addresses warts in any detail, I
think:

1. The same organism may cause different looking 'things", especially in
different locations.
2. There is confusion between the location of warts and the causative agent
in the naming of them.

I plan to discuss this with a dermatologist if I can find one who is
willing to share a bit of his expertise.


James Osbourne Holmes
a...@trail.com


-Original Message-
From:   Sam Earle [SMTP:sear...@prodigy.net]
Sent:   Tuesday, November 09, 1999 6:02 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject:Re: CS and warts and soldering irons

Vilik,

Plantar warts are not true warts. They are a fungus, akin to ringworm. Have
you tried milk thistle topically? I would also consider consuming large
quantities of CS internally, as fungal infections are insidious and have a
tendency to run tendrils throughout the body once they get a foothold, as
it
were.

Sam

- Original Message -
From: Vilik Rapheles 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 1999 12:53 AM
Subject: Re: CS and warts and soldering irons


> At 11:01 PM 11/8/99 -0500, you wrote:
> >It's actually not as bad as it sounds.  Warts seem to have no nerves in
> them, so
> >you burn till it starts hurting.  Then you wait a few minute and clip
the
now
> >cartharized wart off.  No blood, and no pain upon cutting.  Done it many
> times
> >to both myself and my son, who likes CS much better.
> >
> 
> I had plantar's warts on my foot at one time. They seemed to thrive on
> abuse. Freezing (done by an md)...cutting...burning with strong H2O2
> all just made them grow fatter and happier. Then I took milk thistle,
> for something else entirely, and they started disapppearing so fast you
> could almost watch it happening.
>
> I had a bad reaction to the milk thistle and stopped taking it, but they
> were already substantially reduced. And then one day I realized they were
> gone completely...possibly from something else I too internally.
>
> Now, after returning home from a trip to a hot springs, I find I have
> three baby plantars on one foot. One is in a sensitive spot and hurts.
> I soaked my feet in vinegar one night...no change. (I also noticed my
> feet were smelling... which they usually do not...so thought I might
> have picked up a fungus...)
>
> I was just going to write in to the list for suggestions and here you
> are already discussing it. Well, doesn't sound like cs is very helpful,
> and the only new idea is the soldering iron. The thing is...a plantars
> wart is almost flat. There is a kind of callous, but the "seed" or black
> part is far under the skin. When I tried to cut them out, it seemed no
> matter how much flesh I cut, they were still there. And the more they
> are disturbed the more they grow. Also, the seem to be quite
contagious...
> moving to other parts of the body. I would  strongly suggest from
experience
> not to "fool" with them without gloves, unless you want them on your
hands.
>
> So...any more ideas?
>
> ~^^V^^~
>
> ~^^V^^~
>
>
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RE: CS-Dust mites

[O2 Communication]

What a wonderful product!!!   Does anyone know what has happened to Dr Hulda
Clark after her arrest?
Yvonne
:o0
-Original Message-
From: Creston [mailto:crest...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 1999 12:22 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS-Dust mites


HI All,

Rob, I searched for [ "dust mites" and CS ] on the net

one of the items showing up is this link to Dr. Hulda Clark:

http://www.drclark.ch/bulletin/cs.htm

Here is an excerpt from it...

How you can use Colloidal Silver

Add to drinking water when on holiday of camping, sterilize anything
from tooth brushes to surgical instruments, spray on garbage to prevent
decay odors, on dish cloths, cutting boards, add when canning, preserving or
bottling, spray in shoes, between toes, add to bath water, gargle, douche,
colon irrigation nasal sprays, drop onto bandages and plasters to hasten
healing time soak dentures, spray refrigerator, freezer, food storage
containers, stops mildew, mold, wood rot, fungi. Use to spray pets bedding,
use in cleaning and mopping solutions. Spray onto the top of open jam jars
etc., spray food lids before closing. Spray air ducts, use in the final
washing rinse, in dishwashers. Spray around plant roots to stop tot, spray
foliage, inside gloves and under fingernails, rinse fruit and vegetables,
use in shampoos and rinsing water, spray pets, carpets, wipe telephone
mouthpieces, headphones, hearing aids, spray mattresses and allow to dry to
kill dust mites, clean combs and glasses with it. Excellent for diaper rash
and to spray inside diapers. Clean toilet seats with it, floors, underwear,
pillowcases, etc., etc.

If you want more information, and no one on the list knows, try doing a
search on the net.

Greetings,

H.B.





From the lack of response to my previous posting it would appear as
if
no one knows whether CS will kill dust mites or not.
Soyou will pardon me if I have another go, as I
am seriously concerned about the health problems that these
little monsters cause.

Rob

RE: CS-Dust mites

[O2 Communication]

Perhaps it's testing time!!   There is a powerful vacuum cleaner which
apparently sucks them out of mattresses (Kirby cleaners) into a bottle-like
container.   Might be worth trying if anyone has one and checking with a
magnifying glass that the critters are present before zapping them with cs?
Yvonne
:o)
 -Original Message-

From: Rob Lowe [mailto:r...@primus.com.au]
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 1999 10:20 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS-Dust mites


From the lack of response to my previous posting it would appear as if
no one knows whether CS will kill dust mites or not.
Soyou will pardon me if I have another go, as I
am seriously concerned about the health problems that these
little monsters cause.

Rob

RE: CS>Warts

[O2 Communication]

Yo, Mr INFORMATION!   You must have an arsenal of knowledge at your
fingertips.  Many thanks - that gives us something to literally work
through!!
Sincerely,
Yvonne
:o)

-Original Message-
From: Tai-Pan [mailto:l...@fbtc.net]
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 1999 6:41 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Warts


Hi Liz and Listers,

  Never heard of a wart that CS would not act on. However its your
*epithelial tumor*, so lets concentrate on ways of getting rid of it.
 There are many types of warts, for example, basicly five types;
  Common; on fingers, hands, face, scalp and knees
  Filiform; eyelids, face,lips, neck
  Flat warts; face, in groups
  Plantar; soles of feet
  Genital; vagina, cervix, penus, rectum, foreskin

  Each of these types has subcategories, but thats not germain at the
moment.

  Looking over past posts on the list I find the following;

  Evelyn; oregano oil and oregamax
  Chris; CS and aloe
  Marshall; CS and aloe
  Sam; walnut/clove/wormwood
  Carol; caster oil and baking soda, also oregano oil, lemon
  Robert; jewel weed
  Terry; CS
  RegLee; CS and lemon
  Bob; rub with copper penny

 Of course there is always the clinical way, freezing, burn with laser,
burn with acid, and cut it out, all of which leave a scar.
 The common wart is also treated with a collodion solution of 17%
salicylic acid and 17% lactic acid applied daily.

  A lot of herbs have been used over the years to treat warts, here are
some of them.

  Bitter root, apocynum androsaemifolium
  Bittersweet, solanum dulcamara
  Bloodroot, sanguinaria canadensis
  Celandine, chelidonium majus
  Corn-cockle, agrostemma githago L.
  Creosote bush, larrea divaricata
  Jewel weed, impatiens capensis
  Lyre-leaved sage, Cancer weed, salvia lyrata L.
  Milkweed, asclepias syriaca
  Persimmon, common,diospyros virginiana L.
  Poke, phytolacca americana
  Princess-tree, paulownia tomentosa
  Rattlesnake-weed, hieracium venosum L.
  Round-leaved sundew, drosera rotundifolia
  Sarsaparilla, aralia nudicaulis
  Prickly-pear cactus, opuntia humifusa
  Wild lettuce, lactuca canadensis
  Woody nightshade, solanum dulcamara L. (very toxic)
  Thuja, Northern White Cedar, thuja occidentalis

I have also heard of rubbing the wart with a green elder twig and
also rubbing with white onion.

  So we see that there are a lot of things not tried yet on your wart.

   Bless you  Bob Lee
--
oozing on the muggy shore of the gulf coast
  l...@fbtc.net


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RE: CS>Re: Warts

[O2 Communication]

Now that's a solution I could go for in a big way  I think it's just the
thought and pictures of the soldering iron that give one the heebie
peepies!!!  Wonder if anyone has tried any of the old granny's remedies for
warts - such as rubbing with a cut potato and then planting it?

Yvonne
:o0

-Original Message-
From: Michael Mahoney [mailto:mmaho...@eoni.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 1999 9:21 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Re: Warts


I had a plantar wart on the bottom of one of my feet.
I had a doctor cut it off. It came back.
He burned it off. It came back.
He froze it off with liquid nitrogen. It came back.
I tried various wart removing products (like Compound W).
It always came back.

For ten years that wart resisted every attempt to remove it.

Then I took a vacation at the beach. After walking around the beach
barefoot for a week I noticed the bottoms of my feet were as smooth as a
baby's bottom. No wart. No calluses.

I understood the sandpaper effect could remove the external portion of
the wart but never have understood how it could remove the root of the
wart that was in, and below, the surface of the skin. Something in the
salt water?

It's been thirty years now and that wart has never come back.
Sometimes I wish it would reappear. I could use a "medical excuse" for
another week on the beach...

Michael


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RE: CS-Dust mites

[O2 Communication]

Hello!   Yes, I've seen a photographic enlargement of one of these scary
looking (prehistoric) monsters!!
Hideous bedmates!

I know that golden Products (Neolife) produce an environment friendly, non
toxi product called "Care"  which nails the critters when sprayed over a
mattress, but t'would be wonderful to know that cs could do the same for us!

Yvonne
:o)
 -Original Message-
From: Rob Lowe [mailto:r...@primus.com.au]
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 1999 4:30 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS-Dust mites


It is a fact that most of us have millions of UNWANTED bed-mates each
night when we go to sleep.

From my reading, dust mites cause most of the allergies and ill health
even in people
who are considered to be quite healthy.

My preamble is to put what I consider to be a very serious question to
members of this list;

Will the spraying, or fogging of bed sheets, blankets, pillows,
mattresses etc. with CS kill them, stop them breeding
and consequently eliminate the droppings-(faeces), which can also cause
ill health?

I realise that part of the problem is that you can't see the little
'crittures' with the naked eye, so
I suppose that ignorance in this instance can be painful bliss!!

If anyone knows of any research done in this regard I believe it would
be of enormous importance to CS users.

After seeing a photograph of the beasts-(which look like prehistoric
monsters), I'm almost afraid to go to bed at
night.

Help me to get a good nights restPlease!!

Rob

PS: I'm using MSM to good advantage so far as the allergy bit is
concerned.

RE: CS>Multiple Sclerosis

[O2 Communication]

 and while we're at it - does anyone have help for an MS sufferer -
she's in the early stages and suffers partial paralysis in different parts
of the body from time to time.  She's tried absolutely everything thus far -
once finished with her current regimen, she's going to get onto cs as an
immune system booster.
thanks!
Yvonne :o)

-Original Message-
From: Christian von Wechmar [mailto:christ...@owf.co.za]
Sent: Saturday, November 06, 1999 12:56 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Thyroiditis Help?


Hi List,

Does anyone have some advice for healing thyroid disorders? I have a good
friend (female, 43, good general health) who has a thyroid ailment she says
the doctors call "thyroiditis" and "multinodular thyroid". Apparently, it is
neither goiter nor an overactive thyroid. Her thyroid has become
underactive. She is currently taking some allopathic medicine for this
condition.

CS would of course be a good choice of treatment if some bugs are involved.
But isn't thyroid trouble mostly a result of inadequate iodine intake? Or
arsenic poisoning?

I would appreciate any advice you folks might have.

Regards,
Christian
- 
Christian von Wechmar
Stellenbosch, South Africa
christ...@owf.co.za
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RE: CS>OT,Organic seeds,new organic standards

[O2 Communication]

What a fabulous site - thank you!!  &Yvonne:o)

-Original Message-
From: Tai-Pan [mailto:l...@fbtc.net]
Sent: Saturday, November 06, 1999 8:56 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>OT,Organic seeds,new organic standards


Hi Listers,

 Interesting organic seed letter. I buy from these folks with great
results. Check out the new organic standards from the FDA.

  Bless you  Bob Lee 
-- 
oozing on the muggy shore of the gulf coast
  l...@fbtc.net


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RE: CS>OT, interesting math thing

[O2 Communication]

What fun - and how brainy of smeone have worked this out!!!  thanks!
Yvonne:o)


-Original Message-
From: Tai-Pan [mailto:l...@fbtc.net]
Sent: Saturday, November 06, 1999 8:48 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>OT, interesting math thing


Lee, Brainard E wrote:
 Subject:  FW: NEAT TEST (fwd)

 Well, it worked for me.
 It worked for me too, brother.

 Subject: Fw: NEAT TEST (fwd)

 Important,DON'T CHEAT BY SCROLLING DOWN FIRST.
  Have your calculator handy, this really works.
 IT TAKES ABOUT 30 SECONDS.

 Don't read bottom until you have worked it out.

 1.  How many days a week would you like to eat out? Pick a number.







 2.  Multiply this number (the number you selected) by 2.








 3.  Add 5.








 4.  Multiply it by 50.








 5.  If you have already had your birthday this year, add 1749.
 If you haven't, add 1748.







 6. Subtract the four digit year that you were born.








 You now have a three digit number.

 The first digit of this is the number of times you want to
 eat out each week.

 The second two digits are your age.

 1999 is the only year this will ever work, so spread the
 fun around while it lasts.

   Bless you  Bob Lee

 --

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RE: CS and Warts

[O2 Communication]

this is wonderful - my daughter who is studying for finals has a few
underneath her feet (from stress possibly?) first time ever.  I had her soak
her feet in a bowl of warm water and cs last night.   Will keep you all
posted, but will also try your suggestions here.   Many thanks and well done
to you!
Yvonne
:o)

-Original Message-
From: Patricia Santhuff [mailto:psanth...@mindspring.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 06, 1999 3:28 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS and Warts


Well, CS-listers, here I am again. Just as behind in my CS digests as
before. Actually, more so. But I just had to share my experience. Last time
I checked in I noted a post from someone about using 50 - 50 aloe vera + CS
topically for warts. I hadn't thought of CS for warts, even tho I know warts
are said to be viral.

Anyway, I tried CS alone (since I don't have any aloe vera gel or juice on
hand and haven't been out anywhere to get any) on a particularly nasty and
all too visible wart I have. Within days, it's fading dramatically. This is
especially wonderful not JUST because it's embarrassing, but also because I
had this wart surgically removed a year ago (obviously not completely
removed), and because it had not succumbed to my favorite herbal remedy for
warts (T-WRT by Dial Herbs). I'm thrilled. It's not totally gone yet, but I
couldn't wait to share my glee (and thanks to whoever it was that posted
that message).

I'll share a tip, and ask if there are any other tips people could share
about this issue. It's been frustrating to me to try to use CS for topical
applications. It's so water-y it doesn't stay put. I'd been concerned (need
I be??) about combining CS with anything -- like creams or ointments which
might help it stay put.

Cotton balls are cumbersome and seem to dry out, gauze dries out, etc. The
aloe vera juice or gel idea may be a good way to keep CS *put* in one place
for a while, but I've found another -- use small cosmetic pads used as
facial cleansers. They seem to hold the liquid very well. I've been cutting
very small squares and using a plain bandaid to anchor the small piece of
cosmetic pad where I want it. Periodically, I use a small eye dropper to
slip under the bandaid and re-wet the piece of cosmetic pad. This keeps the
area as continuously wet as I can stand.

Any other ideas or more or less continuous topical applications?

Thanks to all --

Patricia S.


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RE: CS>OT - urgent question on sick child & h2o2

[O2 Communication]

Interesting - I know zinc and Vitamin C together are great for colds.
Yvonne
:o)

-Original Message-
From: Cindy Powell [mailto:suns...@networld.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 1999 6:14 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>OT - urgent question on sick child & h2o2


A new product just hit the over the counter market, called Zicam that is
supposed to reduce the duration of the common cold to 1 1/2 days.  It is a
spray containing zinc that is sprayed up the nose (I know, I know, sounds
yucky and uncomfortable,  but)  It is sold as a homeopathic remedy, and
test results are being published through the American Journal of Infection
control, which is a well respected publication.  You might want to ask your
doc about this.  My brother has used it and is amazed at how well it works.
Best,
Cindy
-Original Message-
From: Mike Marr 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Date: Wednesday, November 03, 1999 8:48 AM
Subject: CS>OT - urgent question on sick child & h2o2


Does anyone know why I would not be able to use peroxide in a 25 month
old's ears?  Don't know about the ear canal and when it changes from
birth.  I recall something from our pediatrician about infants being
susceptible to ear infections because the ear canal doesn't change it's
shape until they are *x* months old.  The cold my oldest got is trying to
spread through the family and my daugther is running a fever of 102 F.
Thanks for your input.

Mike M.



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RE: CS-Question

[O2 Communication]

I found some plastics cause fall-out (and had to ditch a whole batch because
of this).   With amber glass bottles, I've had no problem whatsoever and
good shelf life.
Go well.
Yvonne :0)

-Original Message-
From: Hutt William J (Bill) DLPC [mailto:hut...@ncsc.navy.mil]
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 1999 4:38 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS-Question


I believe they need to be glass as well as be dark in color.
Can't remember why it has to be glass. Could someone refresh my memory?

 BillH

-Original Message-
From: rogg...@aol.com [mailto:rogg...@aol.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 1999 6:00 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS-Question


Hi,
I'm new to CS and the list.  My question concerns colored containers.  I

can't find cobalt blue or brown.  What about a medium to dark green, which I

found at Walmart?
Thanks
Gail


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RE: CS>OT - Sick child h2o2

[O2 Communication]

I haven't tried it myself, but have been told there's a vast difference
between the "food grade" hp for internal use and the normal run-of-the-mill
pharmaceutical one.   Do keep us posted!
Yvonne
:o)

-Original Message-
From: Hutt William J (Bill) DLPC [mailto:hut...@ncsc.navy.mil]
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 1999 3:32 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>OT - Sick child h2o2


Have you heard of anyone using hydrogen peroxide internally?
If so, for what and how much. I have heard that bodybuilders using steroids
take a teaspoon to control the severe acne associated anabolic steriods.

  BillH

-Original Message-
From: Mike Marr [mailto:m...@clarkandclark.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 1999 8:55 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>OT - Sick child h2o2


On Tuesday, November 02, 1999  4:30 PM, ing...@aol.com wrote:
>
>Date: 2-Nov-1999 17:30:39 -0500
>From: ing...@aol.com
>To: m...@jazz {silver-l...@eskimo.com}
>Subject: Re: CS>OT - Sick child h2o2
>
>hi..regarding your son..is h2o2 plain hydrogen peroxide? how much did you
>give him each time...what size is he? if lt works that well..l want to know

>all about it..thankyou. inga.
>
>
Yes, plain hydrogen peroxide, 3%, which I bought at the local pharmacy.
I gave him about one capful for both ears.  I poured in enough to fill
the ear canal.  My son is about 48 lbs. and about 46 inches tall.  He
mentioned there was some pain with the first application, but none on the
third.  I have also used this when I felt the first onset of a cold.

Mike M.

Reposted from previous email:
From another list, this suggestion:
From: molecularr...@webtv.net

To all of you that have an ear.

"Sick to day, Well Tomorrow"  I promis you!!!

For the past 21 years now I, and others have been attacking the the
Common Cold & Influenza(s) Virus where they begin their breeding
process. ( not where they have already spread to =
eye's-nose-throat-lungs)

We have found that the inner-ear (middle) harbors the only perfect
environment for these microscopic killers to begin their breeding.

Common Cold Cure:
We find that by administering a few drops of 3% hydrogen peroxide into
each infected ear for 10 minutes or longer until the bubbling & stinging
subsides that the temperature starts dropping within just a few minutes
and that all of the effects / symptoms are completely gone within 12 to
14 hours.  We have had 100% results with using this method.

Influenza(s) Virus Cure:
You'll need to repeat the same process two or more times at two hour
intervals until there is no more bubbling when you put drops in infected
ear(s)  We also have had 100% results when using this method in curing
the flu.   If you don't have an eye dropper, use the bottle cap to
administer the H202 and be very careful to not get any in the eyes.
(flush with water)

I have written to a multitude of people about this amazingly simple cure
including the FDA-NIH & to AMA president Thomas R. Reardon MD. I don't
think that the AMA wants to inform the public about this because there's
no money in it for them in doing so!!! ( Narcissistic )

Please tell others about this.

Thanks

Larry <> the molecular man





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RE: CS>Garlic and Mullein oil

[O2 Communication]

Fascinating!!1  I'm definitely on for a read - thanks!
Yvonne

-Original Message-
From: Marsha Hallett [mailto:liah...@pacbell.net]
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 1999 6:40 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Garlic and Mullein oil


According to the Sumarian writings as translated by Stitchin (Ie. The 12th
> Planet) this is close, but it was actually aliens (which were referred to
as
> gods, but not God) that modified the environment and our dna for shorter
life
> spans to keep us from getting too wise and becoming a threat.  Interesting
> reading.
>
> Marshall

Dear Marshall, I`ve read all his books too, and they ARE interesting! Hmm, I
wonder if THEY will return in 2013...
Marsha


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RE: CS>Doggy-itis

[O2 Communication]

I had to take him to the vet - it's a prostate thing.   So he's on
medication with a strong possibility that in his old age he'll have to be
spayed.  There seem to be so many pros and cons to this procedure!!!
meanwhile he continues to just love his colloidal silver, so fingers
crossed.

Thanks for your reply!
Yvonne

-Original Message-
From: Janine/Gary [mailto:garyjan...@email.msn.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 1999 6:39 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Doggy-itis


Sounds like your dog has a urinary tract infection. Be careful that he
doesn't get blocked.

Janine




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CS>Doggy-itis

[O2 Communication]

Hi

Any suggestions will be appreciated -
My hunky male German Shepherd who is 8+ years old seem to have a "sprinkler"
problem.
He is dripping sporadically, drops of diluted blood.  Doesn't seem to be in
discomfort and is "sprinkling" about the place okay!   He had this before
and was put on anti-biotics but it has recurred.   I'm giving him cs and
spraying directly as well - in fact when he sees us approach with the spray
bottle, he rolls over and lifts his leg for his treatment and then opens his
mouth for an oral dose too!

Thanks!
Yvonne


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RE: CS>Garlic and Mullein oil

[O2 Communication]

Dear Kris

Nicely put!  Your philosophy is a sensible one!   Yes, I believe garlic does
affect the brain's functioning - however, I shouldn't reference someone
without doing it verbatim.   I'm happy to source this if anyone needs it!!
But I do know that I feel slightly stultified after eating garlic which I
love - some dishes just aren't right without it!!  A friend of mine said
when he was undergoing military training he came across a soldier dipping
his bullets in a bowl of crushed garlic.  He was told that with the garlic,
even if the bullet only causes a 'nick' it is still fatal!   I've also heard
that some arrow-hunters follow this practice with their arrow-tips too, as
it is lethal once in the bloodstream!

Breathe lightly  Bye,
Yvonne

-Original Message-
From: Kris [mailto:photo...@powernet.net]
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 1999 6:15 AM
To: o2c...@global.co.za; silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Garlic and Mullein oil


Everyone has their own opinion.  Garlic is said by some to sort of slow
one's mental processes.  I think that everything should be in
moderation.  I do not take garlic everyday.  But it is high in sulfur,
very important to protein binding, and it has a natural antibiotic.
Some say a clove a day would keep the doctor away.  I believe that it is
more beneficial than harmful.  I have heard this theory that goes like
this:  man was once able to live very long, close to a thousand years
old, but  mankind in general did not use their time on earth wisely.
Instead of living lives of continual progress and enlightenment, man
used the time to cycle through periods of righteousness, wickedness,
repentance and then more wickedness.  Then  God became very tired of
this and "corrupted" the food and water, so that these long lives were
no longer possible.  He wanted man to appreciate his time on earth and
be motivated to use it more productively.  Some would argue that this is
also when we in general started having more lives than one, the work one
needed to accomplish continued in the next life.  Lessons learned in
sequential lives, but it says in scripture that there will come a time
"in which no work can be performed."

I believe that the food chain and herbs and such are corrupted such that
they have both good and bad in them, for example spinach has something
in it which blocks calcium, yet it has iron.  So use them wisely, and in
moderation.  Hard to do sometimes.
Kris
 ps  hope you do not mind my sharing your comment and my response.  I
have heard that garlic is bad before.  I have also seen with my own eyes
the antibiotic in garlic work.

> According to Dr Bob Beck garlic is something to "lie down and avoid"!!!
(my
> own words!!!).   Casette tapes which cover this are available from:
>
>
> Transformation Technologies
> PO Box 2698
> North Hills, CA. 91393
> (818) 830-1913
> Fax (818)830-5074
> E-Mail   ri...@wgn.net
>
> They're well worth listening to!!
>
> Sincerely,
>



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RE: CS>Pulsed DC method

[O2 Communication]

A quickie question :

- Is it important to use a little of a previous batch of cs as a starter for
a new one?

thanks!
Yvonne

-Original Message-
From: Hutt William J (Bill) DLPC [mailto:hut...@ncsc.navy.mil]
Sent: Friday, October 22, 1999 5:30 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>Pulsed DC method


One other exception; I didn't use any starter CS.
Started with 8oz of distilled water.

-Original Message-
From: Hutt William J (Bill) DLPC [mailto:hut...@ncsc.navy.mil]
Sent: Friday, October 22, 1999 8:19 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Pulsed DC method




 Has anyone had any experience with the pulsed DC generator located at
http://web.idirect.com/~showcase/althealth/cspulse.htm ?

 It refers to current ranges from 3 - 8ma.  I ran a batch last night and
could only draw 1.4ma(at the Silver electrodes) after 2 hours.  The solution
was clear and is still clear as of this morning.  The taste is extremly
bitter.  I had to add 3 parts distilled water to 1 part of solution in order
to make it tolerable.

I checked the CS solution's resistance with a 16VDC source at the
electrodes.  The current draw was 3.23ma.
16VDC/3.23ma = CS resistance
4.95Kohms   = CS resistance

The only setup exceptions were that my electrodes are flat not round,
and the distilled water was not heated.

Why would the CS solution be so bitter and still remain clear?
Would this be considered a strong solution(high ppm), or did I make
somthing other than CS?

 I took 1 tspn after I made it. It burn my chest bad enough that I had
to drink some water to stop the burning.

 I looked at the solution with a laser pointer and saw plenty of
sparkles(I assume this was silver).?


Thanks

 BillH


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RE: CS>Re: Nicole/Insomnia, Ornithine question

[O2 Communication]

Try the Brain Tuner! Available from:

Transformation Technologies
PO Box 2698
North Hills, CA. 91393
(818) 830-1913
Fax (818)830-5074
E-Mail   ri...@wgn.net


All the best!
Yvonne

-Original Message-
From: gd...@aol.com [mailto:gd...@aol.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 1999 3:27 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com; kato...@mindspring.com
Subject: Re: CS>Re: Nicole/Insomnia, Ornithine question


In a message dated 10/20/99 11:50:59 AM Central Daylight Time,
kato...@mindspring.com writes:

<< I don't know if this will help with insomnia - but maybe someone else on
the
 list can give us more information. Hulda Clark reccomends taking Ornithine
 at night while you are on her parasite herbs -- to fight insomnia.  >>

I don't believe you will find that Ornithine will help with insomnia much.
It
is taken for other purposes. I have found both in studying them and in use
that taking melatonin and tryptophan is very useful form this condition. The
later can be found in taking 5-HTP that can be bought at health food
suppliers since the former was outlawed over a very stupid reason by the
FDA.
If depression is a problem, there are others for that like tyrosine. But you
need to get some information on the amino acids. I take a general amino acid
combination at the same. Much like the B vitamins, they are cofactors to
each
other.

Gene Downey


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RE: CS-Ear infection

[O2 Communication]

Just as a by-the-way - from ear to eye in one hop!!1
I had a stye in my eye the other day - and twice held the cap of a bottle
(containing 10 ppm cs) over my eye and blinked a few times.   It disappeared
in 24 hours - the stye that is!
Yvonne :o)
-Original Message-
From: Rob Lowe [mailto:r...@primus.com.au]
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 1999 1:10 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS-Ear infection


Hi!
My wife has an ear infection. The Doctor prescribed an antibiotic which
she is unwilling to take due to previous unpleasant experiences with thrush.
Apart from taking an increased dose of oral CS, has anyone any
experience in placing CS directly
in the ear. As a rough guess I would say that it would be safe and
effective. If you can place it directly in the eyes
then its use for ears should be effective and safe?
We use a home brewed CS which is around 10ppm.
Anyone help!
Thanks, Rob

RE: CS>FDA comment

[O2 Communication]

.. ad infinitum / ad nauseum it seems ..

I caught the last minute summation of a programme on one of our local SA
channels last night - i gathered it was about the "forerunner / prime mover"
in Oxygen Therapy.  Apparently the FDA has had him jailed.  The presenter
mentioned that there is a website where there's a desperate call to enlist
help.   These tentacles are tenaciously treacherous!

Yvonne :o)

-Original Message-
From: sjlan...@aol.com [mailto:sjlan...@aol.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 1999 2:56 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>FDA comment


James,
I agree wholeheartedly with your assessment of the FDA. In some countries
Vitamin C is considered a  drug. :( It is starting to happen here too. I
have
heard and known of some horrible things the FDA has done to innocent people
because they were getting terrific results with some form of treatment, and
good ole "big brother" saved us from some "horrible" herb but allows doctors
to kill us with radiation and chemotherapy--go figure. Our local health
store--the man went to jail--they raided his store. Thank goodness he is a
fighter.

One comment on the "establishment" the AMA: My medical doctor was treating
people successfully for Lyme--too successful and the AMA/local MI doctors
shut him down--I went to the hearings and it was just disgusting. Had to be
greed, because people were getting well--we are talking he had close to a
1000 patients over several years and a very high success rate. But he was
using antibiotics in a time when it was unaccepted.

I think it is time the alternative groups unite and fight back, but not sure
how one goes about doing that.

Susan L

In a message dated 10/13/1999 8:59:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
a...@trail.com
writes:

<< Thanks Marshall,

 I posted this to the list several months ago, and was curious why there was
 no response.

 The FDA is not what most people think; just like the rest of the
 "government".   You have no doubt heard of the "Codex Alimentarius" (sp?)
   Originating from Austria, the source of our current "education" paradigm.
  They the New/Old "world order" will make all vitamins and herbal extracts
 prescription.  Garlic extract is already a controlled substance in Canada.
  This stuff is moving forward quietly and inexorably.

 And, they always use some reasonable issue to ratchet up the iron fist a
 notch or two.

 James Osbourne Holmes
 a...@trail.com

  >>


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RE: CS>rose color cs

[O2 Communication]

Could someone please advise me what to look for when "Tyndall-hunting" !!
I have obtained a laser light and can see a vast difference between tap
water and cs water, but I'm not sure what it's supposed to be doing!!!
Many thanks!
Yvonne

-Original Message-
From: bober...@swbell.net [mailto:bober...@swbell.net]
Sent: Saturday, October 02, 1999 6:44 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>rose color cs


James and All

Ole Bob uses coke bottles for over a year and there has been one change with
the CS made with 380 vdc back in November of 1998. The change is for the
better
i.e. the Tyndall has gone from a solid red line to a very faint one and the
PPM
HAS INCREASED by 20 to 25 % in the two differnet lots each ot was from a
different brand of  DW???

Sounds to me like the CS has disagglomerated.

"Ole Bob"




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RE: CS>Clear. . . gold. . . dark gold. . . PINK - in two days!?!

[O2 Communication]

Hi - interesting stuff, especially about the coffee cups!!!
Could anyone who knows, please advise how important it is to start a new
batch off with a little of the previous batch - ie. is it advisable to use a
starter?

Many thanks!
Yvonne

-Original Message-
From: Robert Ratliff [mailto:bobratl...@iname.com]
Sent: Saturday, October 02, 1999 4:07 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>Clear. . . gold. . . dark gold. . . PINK - in two
days!?!


It color on the inside of the glass probably helps seed the next batch.

Best Regards, Robert Ratliff
SE Tenn.
bobratl...@iname.com

-Original Message-
From: Ivan Anderson [mailto:i...@win.co.nz]
Sent: Saturday, October 02, 1999 8:15 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Clear. . . gold. . . dark gold. . . PINK - in two
days!?!



- Original Message -
From: d.linen 

> Uh Oh. I've been using detergent too and rinsing thoroughly or so I
> thought. Then I've rinsed some more with DW. The reason I've used
> detergent is that after making a batch, there is a little dark circle
> under where one of the electrodes is located in the jar so I've
cleaned
> it more carefully to get rid of it.  I haven't seen any buildup on the
> jar itself.

That will wipe off with a paper towel.
I actually only wipe and rinse . My plastic generating containers do
have some colour on the walls but that does not seem to be of any
consequence.

Ivan.



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RE: CS>rose color cs

[O2 Communication]

I didn't check if there was a change in colour, but have recently had to
dump 60 plastic spray bottles due to fallout.   I have been advised that the
only plastic bottles which are suitable are the type used to store hydrogen
peroxide.  So your problem could be plastic-related - hope that's of help!
Yvonne

-Original Message-
From: Janine [mailto:janin...@icehouse.net]
Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 4:20 PM
To: CS list
Subject: CS>rose color cs


I have had the same problem with the cs changing to a pinkish color in a
week or two. This only started happening when I started using a plastic
storage container. When I use glass this doesn't happen. Anyone else have
this experience??

Janine


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RE: CS>Off topic Alt Health

[O2 Communication]

Me too please!
Thanks so much
Yvonne

-Original Message-
From: MT [mailto:i...@xs4all.nl]
Sent: Monday, October 04, 1999 5:35 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Off topic Alt Health


alt. health list.

me too





At 03:40 PM 04-10-1999 , you wrote:
>Count me in for the alt. health list.
>
>CARMEN SPENCE wrote:
> >
> > I would also love to be included in an alternative health health list.
> >
> > Carmen
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Cindy Powell 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Monday, October 04, 1999 2:15 PM
> > Subject: Re: CS>Off topic Alt Health
> >
> > > I would love to be included on an alternative health list. Please
> count me
> > > in.
> > > Thx!
> > > Cindy
> > > suns...@networld.com
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: dd...@aol.com 
> > > To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
> > > Date: Saturday, October 02, 1999 3:56 PM
> > > Subject: CS>Off topic Alt Health
> > >
> > >
> > > >Hi All,
> > > >
> > > >Did someone recently mention spinning off a list for alternative
health
> > > >treatment discussion? I seem to remember that I read it here. If I
did
> > not,
> > > >can anyone suggest such a list?
> > > >
> > > >Kathie
> > > >
> > > >CS> Thanks to Sam's testimonials, I am making it, using it, and
sharing
> > it.
> > > >I'm not quite ready to teach it, however.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >--
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> > > >
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> > > >
> > > >
> > >

CS>New e-mail address

[O2 Communication]

Just realised why the box has been so empty today!!!  
Please note my new address is no longer o2c...@o2.co.za
but is now
yvo...@o2.co.za


Many thanks and gud weekend to you all!
Yvonne


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CS>RE: Research References - oops!

[O2 Communication]

So sorry - I omitted the attachment which is now appended!

Yvonne
x


-Original Message-
From:   O2 Communication [mailto:o2c...@global.co.za]
Sent:   Thursday, September 30, 1999 2:07 PM
To: 'Silver List'
Subject:Research References

Dear all,

Please find herewith a list of references which I have scoured from various
sources - if some are cryptic, it's because that's all the reference
contained!

Apologies in this very hectic week I've not had a chance to collate in
alphabetical order or anything, but in the meantime, if it can become a
shared load to check out ... who knows what luvly stuff might just pop out
of the woodwork!!!

Have fun!
Sincerely,
Yvonne


CS RESEARCH 9.99.doc
Description: MS-Word document

CS>Research References

[O2 Communication]

Dear all,

Please find herewith a list of references which I have scoured from various
sources - if some are cryptic, it's because that's all the reference
contained!

Apologies in this very hectic week I've not had a chance to collate in
alphabetical order or anything, but in the meantime, if it can become a
shared load to check out ... who knows what luvly stuff might just pop out
of the woodwork!!!

Have fun!
Sincerely,
Yvonne


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CS>In the interests of research ....

[O2 Communication]

Hi everyone!

Two interesting bits -
one is the report regarding silver usage in burn hospitals and
the other is a test done with cs and toilet water.
Both attched hereto.

* Can someone please let me know what equipment is required to do home
ppm tests please.

Many thanks
Have a great day wherever you are!
Yvonne


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RE: CS>Miss me?

[O2 Communication]

Anyone out there have a perla solution for very fragile nails?  (but not
falsies!).  I'm about to resort to the old fashioned gelatine granules!!!
Thanks!
Yvonne

-Original Message-
From: wong...@aol.com [mailto:wong...@aol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 11:11 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com; sho...@up.net
Subject: Re: CS>Miss me?


Sharon

Wife had brittle and slow growing nails for years. Tried gelatin caps years
ago. Didn't work. Now taking 1000mg MSM (but not for nails), upped from
500mg, and noticed nails have grown and strong. Apparently this is a side
benefit. However, MSM gives me a rash.
wong

In a message dated 09/27/1999 9:14:48 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
ck...@global2000.net writes:

<< On Mon, 27 Sep 1999 16:18:53 -0400, "Sharon L. House" 
wrote:

 >Others also recommended MSM so I gave my husband a choice between the
 >powder and the pills. He chose the pills and I found some 1,000 mg pills
so
 >he won't have to take so darn many! How many grams do you think you're
 >taking per day, Chuck? I thought I would slowly work him up to 10grams a
 >day over time. Any opinions on whether you think that's too much or not
 >enough? He sure needs help with his nail growing!
 > >>


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CS> RE: CS>[Fwd: Acticoat Dressings’ Anti-fungalEffectiv eness--HiYo Silver!!!]

[O2 Communication]

A ray of light  Thanks so much!
Yvonne

-Original Message-
From: Sharon Morrissey [mailto:stars...@ccconnect.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 1999 1:18 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>[Fwd: Acticoat Dressings’ Anti-fungalEffectiveness--HiYo
Silver!!!]


Hi Silverites,

This was sent to me by a friend who knows of my belief in the efficacy
of silver.
I thought you all would appreciate it.

Sharon/starshar



This has to do with Burn patients --
interesting that silver is very often the vehicle of choice for
effectiveness of drug brought with it in a preparation or on  a
dressing.


http://www.pslgroup.com/dg/12ea6a.htm


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RE: CS>Lyme disease

[O2 Communication]

Hi, could someone please let me know the symptoms of Lyme disease - it looks
like one of my colleagues might have said condition.
Many thanks
Yvonne

-Original Message-
From: M. G. Devour [mailto:mdev...@mail.id.net]
Sent: Monday, September 20, 1999 3:11 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Lyme disease


Amy Casca wrote:

> I have a friend here that we are very sure has Lyme disease.
> ... We are still seeking a Lyme Dr to work with us,but are
> having a very hard time finding one. We would like to start trying
> silver,if anyone out there has experience with Lyme and Collidial
> Silver.

NANCY, MARSHA! To the RESCUE!! 

Hi Amy. We've got a number of folks who'll be glad to help you and
your friend. There is no need to wait to take charge of your own
health. I'll let the others fill you in on the details. Expect some
conflicting opinions to sort through, but remember that the basics
will *work*, and that the rest is just refinement of the basics.

Welcome!

Be well,

Mike D.

[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
[mdev...@mail.id.net   ]
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CS>FW: FW: Make sure you read this!

[O2 Communication]

-Original Message-
From: Jeremy Bouwer [mailto:jer...@grey.co.za] 
Sent: Monday, September 20, 1999 10:54 AM
To: 'gvanp...@jba.co.za'; 'jacq...@finfit.co.za'; 'yvo...@o2.co.za';
'l...@o2.co.za'; 'mela...@o2.co.za'; 'hcoet...@thaba.co.za';
'd...@hixnet.co.za'; 'l...@tincan.co.za'; 'mcmarket...@futurenet.co.z'
Cc: Kristiina Kuhn
Subject: FW: FW: Make sure you read this!
Importance: High



>  >
> >> >
> >> >-Original Message-
> >> >From: VanRooyen, Natasha N
> >> >Sent: 14 September 1999 10:39
> >> >To:   Ramorei, Paula P; Holmes, Ashley A; Pedall, Sonja S;
> Rufener,
> >> >Sandra SG; Behrends, Simon S; Gilbert, Chantelle C; VanRooyen, Marion
> >> >MA; Motara, Saajida; Lobay, Rochelle R; Stakes, Ronelle C; 'Terence
> >> >Temlett'; 'yola...@bjm.co.za'; Crouch, Merle M
> >> >Subject:  FW: FW: Make sure you read this!
> >> >Importance:   High
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >dNatasha Van Rooyend
> >> >American Depository Receipts
> >> >Tel No:   (011) 636-7535
> >> >Fax No: (011) 636-4921/3817/8708
> >> >vanrooy...@scmb.co.za
> >>
> >>
> >> ALL GOOD THINGS
> >>
> >> He was in the first third grade class I taught at
> >> Saint Mary's School in Morris, Minn. All 34 of
> >> my students were dear to me, but Mark Eklund was
> >> one in a million. Very neat in appearance, but
> >> had that happy-to-be-alive attitude that made
> >> even his occasional mischievousness delightful.
> >>
> >> Mark talked incessantly. I had to remind him
> >> again and again that talking without permission
> >> was not acceptable. What impressed me so much,
> >> though, was his sincere response every time I
> >> had to correct him for misbehaving -
> >>
> >> "Thank you for correcting me, Sister!"
> >> I didn't know what to make of it at first, but
> >> before long I became accustomed to hearing it
> >> many times a day.
> >>
> >> One morning my patience was growing thin when
> >> Mark talked once too often, and then I made a
> >> novice-teacher's mistake. I looked at Mark and
> >> said, "If you say one more word, I am going to
> >> tape your mouth shut!"
> >> It wasn't ten seconds later when Chuck blurted
> >> out, "Mark is talking again." I hadn't asked any
> >> of the students to help me watch Mark, but since
> >> I had stated the punishment in front of the
> >> class, I had to act on it.
> >>
> >> I remember the scene as if it had occurred this
> >> morning. I walked to my desk, very deliberately
> >> opened by drawer and took out a roll of masking
> >> tape. Without saying a word, I proceeded to
> >> Mark's desk, tore off two pieces of tape and
> >> made a big X with them over his mouth. I then
> >> returned to the front of the room.
> >>
> >> As I glanced at Mark to see how he was doing, he
> >> winked at me. That did it!! I started
> >> laughing. The class cheered as I walked back to
> >> Mark's desk, removed the tape, and shrugged my
> >> shoulders. His first words were, "Thank you for
> >> correcting me, Sister."
> >>
> >> At the end of the year, I was asked to teach
> >> junior-high math. The years flew by, and before
> >> I knew it Mark was in my classroom again. He
> >> was more handsome than ever and just as polite.
> >>
> >> Since he had to listen carefully to my
> >> instruction in the "new math," he did not talk
> >> as much in ninth grade as he had in third. One
> >>
> >> Friday, things just didn't feel right. We had
> >> worked hard on a new concept all week, and I
> >> sensed that the students were frowning,
> >> frustrated with themselves - and edgy with one
> >> another. I had to stop this crankiness before
> >> it got out of hand. So I asked them to list the
> >> names of the other students in the room on two
> >> sheets of paper, leaving a space between each
> >> name. Then I told them to think of the nicest
> >> thing they could say about each of their
> >> classmates and write it down. It took the
> >> remainder of the class period to finish their
> >> assignment, and as the students left the room,
> >> each one handed me the papers. Charlie smiled.
> >> Mark said, "Thank you for teaching me, Sister.
> >> Have a good weekend." That Saturday, I wrote
> >> down the name of each student on a separate
> >> sheet of paper, and I listed what everyone else
> >> had said about that individual. On Monday I
> >> gave each student his or her list. Before long,
> >> the entire class was smiling. "Really?" I
> >> heard whispered. "I never knew that meant
> >> anything  to anyone!" "I didn't know others liked me so
> >> much." No one ever mentioned those papers in
> >> class again. I never knew if they discussed
> >> them after class or with their parents, but it
> >> didn't matter. The exercise had accomplished
> >> its purpose. The students were happy with
> >> themselves and one another again.
> >>
> >> That group of students moved on. Several years
> >> later, after I returned from vacation, my parents met me at the
> airport.
> >> As
> >> we were driving home, Mother asked me the usual
> >> questi

RE: CS>The Quest for documented / scientific reports on colloida

[O2 Communication]

Gotcha!   Moreso than ever at this time - this is something vitally needed.
I'm sure our collective efforts could work like a pot-scourer out there and
dig and delve it out for all to see!!!
Yvonne

-Original Message-
From: M. G. Devour [mailto:mdev...@mail.id.net]
Sent: Friday, September 17, 1999 6:04 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>The Quest for documented / scientific reports on
colloida


Hi Yvonne, list!

A citation like this is a starting point, but doesn't give us a
*whole* lot, unfortunately...

The cite is at the bottom of a long page of info about CS that is a
faithful rehash of what we've always been told. The only "reference"
provided to back up any of what they say is "Article from Family
Health News". We don't know what issue, or that it's not a company
publication or otherwise commercially affiliated with the vendor.

So a first step is to see if there is such a publication and find the
referenced article. Then trace back to authors or sources if
possible, to the actual test results, if they'll share them. *That*
will begin to approach documented results! 

Which is to say there's a lot of work to do to really nail these
things down. Marketers like this, in the absence of real data, tend
to throw words at it until it looks real and just hope for the best.
We know there's very little hard date to be found to begin with.

So, this item shows that somebody claims to have bought some
culture testing at a lab, and that the results were good. It at least
jibes with what we know from experience.

Good digging. Keep us up to date!

Be well,

Mike D.

> Hi all!
>
> Here's a start :
>
> Regional Pharmacy Services and Silver Water, Inc.
> MEMO: Regarding lab testing of various strains of bacterias, yeast
> and molds The following results were observed and recorded after
> exposing various strains of bacteria, yeast and mold to Regional
> Pharmacy Service's specially formulated Colloidal Silver with a
> concentration of Three Parts per Million. 1. There was a dramatic
> 99.999% reduction of both the bacteria strains and the yeast within
> 24 hours. 2. This 99.999% reduction of both the bacteria strains and
> the yeast continued for the first week and stayed reduced for a full
> month (28+ days). 3. There was a 90.0% reduction of the molds tested
> within 24 hours. 4. This 90.0% reduction of the molds continued for
> the first week and stayed reduced for a full month. Interpretation
> of Lab Testing Results - The Regional Pharmacy Service (RPS) and
> Silver Water Inc.'s Colloidal Silver with a concentration of Three
> Parts per Million exhibits a consistent ability to radically destroy
> over 99% of all pathogenic bacteria and yeast and over 90% of molds
> exposed to the specifically formulated RPS colloidal silver.
> (Article from Family Health News)
>
>
> Since the body is known to have a vital need for silver to maintain
> both the immune system and the production of new healthy cells, and
> due to the harmonious nature of colloids entering the body, it
> stands within reason that colloidal silver may be harmless. Just to
> prove the point make a sixteen-ounce solution of well over 250 ppm
> and drink it. It's plenty safe. This makes sense according to
> Capitol Drugs pharmacist Ron Barnes, PhD. "Many strains of
> pathogenic microbes, viruses, fungi, bacteria or any other single
> celled pathogen resistant to other antibiotics are killed on contact
> by colloidal silver, and are unable to mutate. However, it does not
> harm tissue-cell enzymes and friendly bacteria.
>
> Email:livinghea...@involved.com 
> Website: New
> Website:
>
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RE: CS>ALERT

[O2 Communication]

Thank you for that advice - I'm about to have a batch of labels printed and
will do the necessary - just in case the gestapo find their way here too!
Yvonne

-Original Message-
From: Mike Marr [mailto:m...@clarkandclark.com]
Sent: Friday, September 17, 1999 3:10 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>ALERT


On Friday, September 17, 1999  1:01 PM, donna2...@aol.com wrote:
>
>Date: 17-Sep-1999 14:01:19 -0400
>From: donna2...@aol.com
>To: m...@jazz {silver-l...@eskimo.com}
>Subject: Re: CS>ALERT
>
>to all,
>  Will this effect Bruce from CsPro?  How about wateroz?
> I can't believe they can do this.
>Donna
>

More than likely not.  Bruce's bottles say the CS is a mineral supplement
and makes *no* claims as to health cures.  The problem is going to be for
those manufacturers that try to label their CS as a cure all or
specifically curing some illness.  Just label the bottle as a supplement.
 It's all in the marketing of the product.

Mike M.




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RE: CS>ALERT

[O2 Communication]

Yes - this is scary stuff - but the one good aspect is that our cs is
obviously working and making these results felt in the only environment
where such a wondrous thing could be "unwanted"!!!   Yo Freedom - seek out
the loopholes - onward, ever onward 
Yvonne


-Original Message-
From: Victoria Welch [mailto:vi...@oz.net]
Sent: Friday, September 17, 1999 7:58 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>ALERT


Mercer wrote:
>
> so it's TRUE???

I don't know for sure if it is true, but with the way our "government"
works, it would come as absolutely no surprise at all.  We're too stupid
to do anything ourselves, we need some politician / bureaucrat and an
agency with a SWAT team (any of them anymore I think) to be sure we do
what is "best for the whole" and most especially "what is good for the
children".  Just give up a little more freedom and all will be well.
Don't worry, be happy, your government will take care of you.

Yes, I am disgusted with it all.  There was some TV program on a while
back relating to problems with airbags in cars and the nightmare that
people (esssentially very short and were more likely to be injured by
the airbags than saved by them) had to go through to have them either
disconnected or a switch installed to disable them.  A politician /
bureaucrat they were interviewing seemed shocked that people were not
willing to "go along with the greater good" and continually emphasized
that individual freedoms *must* be given up for the "greater good of the
whole".  I personally found it rather chilling.

I'm going to take my morning stroll and will stop by the local
suplements store an ask about the CS thing.  Will post results when I
get back.
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CS>FW: Osteoporosis

[O2 Communication]

-Original Message-
From: silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com
17.9.99

Hi there everyone!

I'm throwing out a hopeful line for a brave lady who's suffered two back
operations and is desperate to find something to prevent a worsening of her
condition which is osteoporosis.   She is taking cal-mag and is going to
start on Colloidal Silver for its all-round properties.   Any ideas ..?

Many thanks!

and just for fun .. a bit of male revenge 

Please note that with the arrival of the new "Drive-thru" cash point
machines customers will be able to withdraw cash without leaving their
vehicles.

To enable users to use this new facility the following procedures have
been drawn up. Please read the procedure that applies to your own
circumstances(i.e. MALE or FEMALE) and remember them for when you use
the machine for the first time.

MALE PROCEDURE

1. Drive up to the cash machine.
2. Wind down your car window.
3. Insert card into machine and enter PIN.
4. Enter amount of cash required and withdraw.
5. Retrieve card, cash, and receipt
6. Wind up window
7. Drive off

FEMALE PROCEDURE

1. Drive up to cash machine
2. Reverse back the required amount to align car window to machine
3. Re-start the stalled engine
4. Wind down the window
5. Find handbag, remove all contents on to passenger seat to locate =
card.
6. Locate make-up bag and check make-up in rear view mirror
7. Attempt to insert card into machine
8. Open car door to allow easier access to machine due to its excessive =
distance from the car
9. Insert card
10. Insert card the right way up
11. Re-enter handbag to find diary with your PIN written on the inside =
back page
12. Enter PIN.
13. Press cancel and re-enter correct PIN.
14. Enter amount of cash required
15. Re-check make up in rear view mirror
16. Retrieve cash and receipt
17. Empty handbag again to locate purse and place cash inside
18. Place receipt in back of cheque book
19. Re-check make-up again
20. Drive forwards 2 metres
21. Reverse back to cash machine
22. Retrieve card
23. Re-empty hand bag, locate card holder, and place card into the
slot provided
24. Re-check make-up
25. Restart stalled engine and pull off
26. Drive for 3 to 4 miles
27. Release hand brake




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CS>The Quest for documented / scientific reports on colloidal silver

[O2 Communication]

Hi all!

Here's a start :

Regional Pharmacy Services and Silver Water, Inc.
MEMO: Regarding lab testing of various strains of bacterias, yeast and molds
The following results were observed and recorded after exposing various
strains of bacteria, yeast and mold to Regional Pharmacy Service's specially
formulated Colloidal Silver with a concentration of Three Parts per Million.
1. There was a dramatic 99.999% reduction of both the bacteria strains and
the yeast within 24 hours.
2. This 99.999% reduction of both the bacteria strains and the yeast
continued for the first week and stayed reduced for a full month (28+ days).
3. There was a 90.0% reduction of the molds tested within 24 hours.
4. This 90.0% reduction of the molds continued for the first week and stayed
reduced for a full month.
Interpretation of Lab Testing Results - The Regional Pharmacy Service (RPS)
and Silver Water Inc.'s Colloidal Silver with a concentration of Three Parts
per Million exhibits a consistent ability to radically destroy over 99% of
all pathogenic bacteria and yeast and over 90% of molds exposed to the
specifically formulated RPS colloidal silver.
(Article from Family Health News)


Since the body is known to have a vital need for silver to maintain both the
immune system and the production of new healthy cells, and due to the
harmonious nature of colloids entering the body, it stands within reason
that colloidal silver may be harmless. Just to prove the point make a
sixteen-ounce solution of well over 250 ppm and drink it. It's plenty safe.
This makes sense according to Capitol Drugs pharmacist Ron Barnes, PhD.
"Many strains of pathogenic microbes, viruses, fungi, bacteria or any other
single celled pathogen resistant to other antibiotics are killed on contact
by colloidal silver, and are unable to mutate. However, it does not harm
tissue-cell enzymes and friendly bacteria.

Email:livinghea...@involved.com 
Website:
New Website:


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RE: CS>OT hah hahs!!

[O2 Communication]

Hi there

Luvly stuff!   I'm an avid believer in humour being a wonderful 'muti' as we
say in South Africa - medicine for the soul - let's see more, while we're
being so serious

Here's my thought for the day!
Yvonne
Johannesburg

-Original Message-
From: Marsha Hallett [mailto:liah...@pacbell.net]
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 1999 5:54 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>OT hah hahs!!


Dear Listers, I feel good, so I just gotta send this so you all can feel
good too!
Love,
Marsha

Penguins

A police officer sees a man driving around with a pickup truck full of
penguins. He pulls the guy over and says: "You can't drive around with
penguins in this town! Take them to the zoo immediately." The guy says
OK,
and drives away. The next day, the officer sees the guy still driving
around with the truck full of penguins - and they're all wearing sun
glasses. He pulls the guy over and demands: "I thought I told you to
take
these penguins to the zoo yesterday?"
The guy replies: "I did . . . today I'm taking them to the beach!"



GLOW WORM.rtf
Description: MS-Word document

cs - preservative?? To preserve or not to preserve?

[O2 Communication]

Hello again dear Listees,

I've been quite prolific today - not got much work done though - think I'm
becoming a list junkie!!

I've had someone ask me if she can use cs in food bottling (sauces) as a
preservative.   Short of actually trying it and seeing how long we can go,
does anyone out there have similar actual experience?   I'd appreciate ...

Many thanks
and over and out for this wonderful day! in Johannesburg!!
Yvonne


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RE: CS>Parasites

[O2 Communication]

Does anyone have a proper medical definition for "parasites"?
The Collins english dictionary which all I have here at work states:
"an animal or plant that lives in or on another from which it obtains
nourishment".   So, when we think we're ridding ourselves of parasites with
cs or a zapper, are we including the yukky kind such as tapies, roundies,
etc?   Hopefully ..

thanks!
Yvonne
-Original Message-
From: Marsha Hallett [mailto:liah...@pacbell.net]
Sent: Monday, September 13, 1999 5:53 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Parasites


>It would seem from the evidence available that CS is effective primarily
>against prokaryotes (bacteria).  I have not seen any reports of success
>using CS against such diseases as malaria, giardiasis, amoebic dysentery,
>etc. (but this doesn't mean they don't exist)


CS stopped the Giardia my baby cockatiel had. The vet ID`d it under a
microscope, so that is what she had for sure. After 2 days of CS dropped
into her beak, she was well again, with normal birdy poops.
I`m so glad it worked, it saved me a lot of money and my bird is such a
sweetie!
Marsha


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RE: CS information needed

[O2 Communication]

Hi!  thank you for an interesting site reference - it prompted me to ask the
question :  Are opaque plastic bottles okay for storing cs?   I've had
advice given me that;
1. the static of the plastic attracts silver mollecules and they adhere to
the sides of the bottle
2. that the positive properties of the plastic repel the silver mollecules
???
I'm not a techno/chemico fundie, as you may have gathered, hence the call
for help

Many thanks
Yvonne
x
-Original Message-
From: BROOKS BRADLEY [mailto:liat...@flash.net]
Sent: Monday, September 13, 1999 6:23 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS information needed


Dear Jeffrey.
Although there are many; sites available for useful
information;  both technical and general, here is a url that will give you a
basis
familiarity with the substance, plus some of its applications.
http://www.jovo.com.hk/cs.htmThis is a site dedicated to one of our
recently
deceased Dutch friends.
I hope the information is an aid to you.
Sincerely.  Brooks Bradley.
Jeffrey A. Madore wrote:

> Hi all. My name is Jeff and I am new to the silver list. I have Chronic
CNS Lyme Disease, have tried many antibiotic routines with limited success,
> and am interested in making and experimenting with colloidal silver.
Please bear with me as I am relatively uninformed as to the production, use
and
> efficacy of CS.  I have some questions that some of you may be able to
help me with.
>
> 1. What exactly is the form of silver, that I am looking to produce, that
is an effective antibiotic?  I'd like to understand the science. It appears
> that colloidal silver consists of silver particles held in solution. Are
these particles just extremely small or does their ionic state maintain them
> within the solution, such that the solution is fairly homogeneous?
>
> 2. I hear of precipitate forming on the bottom of the container while
brewing. Is this due to excessive current density, as seen in a lead acid
cell,
> that causes flaking of the electrodes. Would the use of electrodes with a
larger surface area be more effective in this process.
>
> 3. I hear of many different voltages being used. When HVAC is used, is the
voltage applied to the electrodes AC? If so, what is the advantage of using
> AC vs DC.
>
> 4. I have, or can put together from parts, sources that will put out AC or
DC at voltages from 0 to 20 kv or more...probably could go higher if I put
> my mind to it, and am experienced in working with HV supplies. Where would
be a good place to begin?  Can someone describe a typical setup?
>
> 5. I understand that the conductivity of the electrolyte increases during
the process. Should some form of current limiting be employed, such that the
> voltage is reduced, to avoide excessive current density? Is natural
convection of the electrolyte sufficient to maintain an even current
density?
>
> 6. Must both electrodes consist of silver?  It would seem that if direct
current were utilized, one electrode could be stainless steel, as the flow
of
> current would be in one direction only and therefore, the polarity could
be set such that the silver only, would be depleted during the process.
>
> 7. Is the higher concentration (PPM) silver more effective in treating an
infection? I have seen numbers ranging from a few ppm to many hundreds of
> ppm. And, is there a point where the concentration / dose has shown
toxicity when taken internally?
>
> I guess this is a good start. Any and all information would be very much
appreciated.
>
> Jeff - K1LE  CT
>
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RE: CS>Re: Walter Grotz report on CS

[O2 Communication]

You won'd believe how long I've spent trying to re-locate these items
How incfredibly frustrating, but I've not yet called it a day.  Found them
once, must find them again!   I located the full MIGHTIEST GERM FIGHTER on a
website related to colloidal silver.

Also have a good article from BIO/TECH NEWS  and one from periodical Health
Newsline.
I could fax these to someone who could then put them up on the List.
Unfortunately I am not able to e-mail them as they need to be scanned
in.

Yvonne the searcher!!

-Original Message-
From: William Falls [mailto:newl...@bluebonnet.net]
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 1999 6:35 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Re: Walter Grotz report on CS


Dear Yvonne & list,
the items that you mentioned in your post Re:CS>Lawsuit re.CS-- Do you
have the articles mentioned or just the references to them? I tried to get
the ECHO Newsletter- A Word with Walter Grotz: Report on CS-- on the www.
and am foiled again.  Could you post actual url's for these references if
you know where they can be found on the Internet. Thanks. Cora.

CS>Lawsuit re. colloidal silver

[O2 Communication]

In haste - for the legal case against Colloidal Silver.   I've not had a
chance to wade through and find who exactly was looking for references.


References I've come across on the Internet:

By the way I found the whole article "Silver Our Mightiest Germ Fighter" on
the Internet - I'll try and re-locate it!

ECHO Newsletteer - A WORD WITH WALTER GROTZ : Report on Colloidal Silver
 - no date unfortunately -

The Body Electric by Dr Robert O Becker ... "  states that silver
does more than kill disease-causing organisms;  it also causes major growth
stimulation of injured tissues.  Burn patients ...
According to Dr Becker, all strains of pathogens resistant to other
antibiotics are killed by the silver element.  He even discovered that it
may help change cancer cells back to normal!"

I believe it's a recognised form of treatment in India, but don't have
anything in writing on this.

"Colloidal silver has proven particularly effective in cases of intestinal
trouobles.  Dr Henry Crooks found that silver in the colloidal state is
highly germicidal, quite harmless to humans and absolutely nontoxic.  Rather
than in a chemical compound, silver, in the colloidal state, may be applied
in a more concentrated form, with correspondingly better results.  All
fungus, virus, bacteria, streptococcus, staphylococcuis, and other
pathogenic organisms are killed in three or four minutes.  In fact there is
no microbe known that is not killed by colloidal silver in six minutes or
less, in a dilution of as little as five parts per million. There are no
side effects whatsoever from high concentrations."  "Use of Colloid in
health and Disease". quoted in "Report: Colloidal Silver" Health
Consciousness, Vol 15, No. 4

OUR MIGHTIEST GERM FIGHTER - Science Digest, march 1978

UCLA Medical labs found it (silver) effective on every virus they tested it
on - no date or name referenced here.

Dr Henry Crooks (Use of Colloids in Health-Disease) found that silver iin
the colloidal state is highly germicidal, quite harmless to humans and
absolutely non-toxic.  From his bacteriological experiments with silver he
concluded, "I know of no microbe that is not killed in laboratory
experiments in six minutes".

Dr Bjorn Nordenstrom of the Larolinska (Karolinska?) Institute, Sweden, has
successfully used silver as a component in his cancer treatments for many
years.

EPA's Poison Control Centre reports no toxicity listing fror Colloidal
Silver, considering it harmless in any concentration.



Hope these help - I'm sure there are more I can scout through if needed.
All obtained on the Internet.

Please keep us posted on progress of the case - could be an important
precedent.   My very best wishes 

Sincerely,
yvonne


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CS>FW: CS and disposable contacts

[O2 Communication]

I was told that cs would cause a mirroring on contact lenses and spectacles.
Has anyone ever found this?
Thanks!
Yvonne
yvo...@o2.co.za


-Original Message-
From: Liz Pavek [mailto:liz...@frontiernet.net]
Sent: Friday, September 03, 1999 7:28 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS and disposable contacts


I use CS in my wetting drops, in my soaking/disinfecting solution, and
wherever the lenses are stored. I also add a few drops of peroxide to add
oxygen, and when I put the drops in my eyes, I slide the lens around a
little to put a fresh layer of oxygen/CS enhanced water under the lens. It
refresehs the eyes, adds oxygen, and is a good germ-killer.

Liz