Re: CS>US Department of Defence (USAMRIID) & Tulane University Released This Bioengineered Airborne Ebola/Lassa Hybrid in Sierra Leone | zeitgeist777

[aKa Jhon]

http://www.dinarrecaps.com/our-blog/ebola-west-africas-offshore-oil-by-jc-collins
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  From: Ron 
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  Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 6:07 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>US Department of Defence (USAMRIID) & Tulane University 
Released This Bioengineered Airborne Ebola/Lassa Hybrid in Sierra Leone | 
zeitgeist777


  BS meters are likely correct.
  If you listen to the first half of this audio you will get exact facts and 
figures on  Ebola deaths and contagion [NOT].
  We've had military in Africa for nefarious reasons for years.

  Ron


  On 9/17/2014 2:53 PM, phoenix23002 tds.net wrote:

Dan...LOL...know how you feel... Lola H

On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 4:35 PM, Dan Nave  wrote:

  My BS meter just pegged... 




  On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 5:27 AM, TJ Garland  
wrote:



http://zeitgeist77.wordpress.com/2014/08/03/us-department-of-defence-usamriid-tulane-university-released-this-bioengineered-airborne-ebolalassa-hybrid-in-sierra-leone/



  State power is impunity, impunity corrupts, and absolute impunity 
corrupts absolutely. It not only attracts the already-corrupt, but it debases 
every soul that it touches. State impunity is a hell of a drug, and the only 
one deserving of absolute prohibition. Libertarians especially should stay off 
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CS>interesting article..

[aKa Jhon]

http://healthwyze.org/index.php/component/content/article/633-everything-about-colloidal-silver.html

"Most truths are so naked that people feel sorry for them and cover them up, at 
least a little bit."
- Edward R. Murrow

Re: CS>boron

[aKa Jhon]

20 mule teamhe drinks it all day,,I chug it down at night with water..
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  Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 10:41 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>boron


  How does one buy this.  I would like to try it. Do you put it in the quart if 
water abd drink throughout the day.

  On Mar 4, 2014 7:52 PM, "aKa Jhon"  wrote:

from a friend,,,

It turns-out that the Borax is good for a lot of things--
Hyaluronic acid -it is the slick part of tears and a major component of 
Synovial Fluid--the lubricant for the joints--
I've had Dry Eye Syndrome for some time--
it felt like sandpaper in my eyes--
And IF I went to a doctor and he told me he could cure the dry eyes for 
$1000 --I would have gladly signed-up--
Boron is the mineral to increase the slickness of both Hyaluronic Acid AND
Synovial fluid--(synovial fluid has-as a component hyaluronic acid)
My eyes are no longer dry--My skin feels like I got new skin--and--
My hip is much better--I feel that it will be completely well in another
month--
All this for about 50 cents worth of Borax--(or less -maybe 10 to 15 cents 
worth)
"They" recommend 1/4 teaspoon in a quart of water per day--
and the way I work is if one is good --two is twice as good--
So--I've been taking 1/2 teaspoon per day--
The healing stages have sometime been painful--
but now, with the way I feel--it was worth the pain in going back through
the stages --(I've gone back through the stages leading to the full 
diseased hip)
The prospect of a cure is (I believe) in sight.
There are pictures of an orthoarthritic hip joint--
http://www.drdkdasortho.com/hip-arthritis.html
Scroll down--the orthoarthritic hip picture is UGLY--
That is what I had--ugly and painful--
the Doctors say-- it is incurable--but I believe it IS curable--
-
Also boron is the element that nourishes the Parathyroid gland--
which controls blood calcium levels--
Boron is to the parathyroid what Iodine is to the thyroid--
hence deposits of calcium in tooth plaque--(some) kidney stones--
and best of all arterial plaque leading to blockage of coronary arteries.
The calcium comes from the bones and teeth --leading to osteoporosis and 
dental cavities.


So--the curing of the Parathroid--
is the cure for arthritis, heart artery blockage, tooth plaque, dry eye.
and kidney stones--and calcium depleted bones.
All for $5 for a lifetime supply--
No wonder "they" don't want you to know about it-
much less self-treat for the cure--the Borax works
Cheers,
Andy

CS>boron

[aKa Jhon]

from a friend,,,

It turns-out that the Borax is good for a lot of things--
Hyaluronic acid -it is the slick part of tears and a major component of 
Synovial Fluid--the lubricant for the joints--
I've had Dry Eye Syndrome for some time--
it felt like sandpaper in my eyes--
And IF I went to a doctor and he told me he could cure the dry eyes for $1000 
--I would have gladly signed-up--
Boron is the mineral to increase the slickness of both Hyaluronic Acid AND
Synovial fluid--(synovial fluid has-as a component hyaluronic acid)
My eyes are no longer dry--My skin feels like I got new skin--and--
My hip is much better--I feel that it will be completely well in another
month--
All this for about 50 cents worth of Borax--(or less -maybe 10 to 15 cents 
worth)
"They" recommend 1/4 teaspoon in a quart of water per day--
and the way I work is if one is good --two is twice as good--
So--I've been taking 1/2 teaspoon per day--
The healing stages have sometime been painful--
but now, with the way I feel--it was worth the pain in going back through
the stages --(I've gone back through the stages leading to the full diseased 
hip)
The prospect of a cure is (I believe) in sight.
There are pictures of an orthoarthritic hip joint--
http://www.drdkdasortho.com/hip-arthritis.html
Scroll down--the orthoarthritic hip picture is UGLY--
That is what I had--ugly and painful--
the Doctors say-- it is incurable--but I believe it IS curable--
-
Also boron is the element that nourishes the Parathyroid gland--
which controls blood calcium levels--
Boron is to the parathyroid what Iodine is to the thyroid--
hence deposits of calcium in tooth plaque--(some) kidney stones--
and best of all arterial plaque leading to blockage of coronary arteries.
The calcium comes from the bones and teeth --leading to osteoporosis and dental 
cavities.


So--the curing of the Parathroid--
is the cure for arthritis, heart artery blockage, tooth plaque, dry eye.
and kidney stones--and calcium depleted bones.
All for $5 for a lifetime supply--
No wonder "they" don't want you to know about it-
much less self-treat for the cure--the Borax works
Cheers,
Andy

CS>boric acid,20 mule team etc.

[aKa Jhon]

 This may be of interest from reading Brook's take on this in the 
past...YMMV


http://www.health-science-spirit.com/borax.htm 



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CS>copper and silver

[aKa Jhon]

 Would copper,i.e. copper tubing work as good as a silver strip to kill 
germs etc. in water??


http://www.naturalnews.com/042507_copper_norovirus_silver.html# 



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Re: bladder, was Re: Dan / Re: CS>The book, Pain Free, by Pete Egoscue

[aKa Jhon]

We don't eat PUFA to our knowledgeis cane sugar,maple sugar etc.safer to 
use than stevia as far as diabetics concern???
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To: 
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Subject: Re: bladder, was Re: Dan / Re: CS>The book, Pain Free, by Pete 
Egoscue




aKa Jhon wrote:
so,does that mean powdered stevia is not good ,if one is prediabetic,and 
pure cane sugar is better???


Not if you consume a lot of PUFA, which virtually every American does.  If 
a person continues to eat PUFA and adds sugar that could be worse.


sol





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Re: bladder, was Re: Dan / Re: CS>The book, Pain Free, by Pete Egoscue

[aKa Jhon]

so,does that mean powdered stevia is not good ,if one is prediabetic,and 
pure cane sugar is better???



Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 15:52:01 -0400
To: "silver-list@eskimo.com" 
Subject: Re: bladder, was Re: Dan / Re: CS>The book, Pain Free, by Pete
Egoscue
Resent-From: "silver-list@eskimo.com" 
Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 12:52:04 -0700

This is my understanding.  Cane sugar is a complex sugar, containing
fructose and glucose.  When the body gets the sweet taste, it
immediately starts producing insulin to "store" the excess sugar.  The
glucose portion goes directly into the blood, and replaces the drop in
blood sugar that would normally accompany an insulin surge maintaining a
normal blood sugar level.  The fructose portion is then stored, either
in muscle, or as fat for later use.  Once the glucose is used up,
insulin levels drop and the stored fructose is converted to fructose and
burned.  If only moderate amounts of sugar are consumed, then virtually
no sugar is converted to fat.

Now with pure or near pure fructose, the body once again produces
insulin, dropping the blood sugar (glucose) level.  But no glucose comes
in, only fructose comes in.  The fructose is stored in muscle tissue,
but is stuck there because of the high insulin levels.  Blood sugar
drops, making you hungry, so you eat and or drink more to try to get the
glucose level back up.  If it is sweet fructose then that only adds to
the problem. Once the level of fructose reaches a saturation level in
the tissues, it starts being stored as fat, which is much more difficult
to access and burn than sugar stored in the muscle.

Thus HFCS converts much more into fat than a mixture of glucose and
fructose, such as honey, or cane sugar.

Marshall





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Re: [FW]CS>Brooks tiptoe rebounding :COMMENTARY

[aKa Jhon]

  - Original Message - 
  From: Brooks Bradley 
  To: Silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 11:43 AM
  Subject: [FW]CS>Brooks tiptoe rebounding :COMMENTARY


  This is in address to recent comments about my original posting on the 
effects of rebounding.an investigation stimulated by Dr. Walt Stoll. 
Although this is not 
  my original post, I believe it contains useful information to parties 
interested in this type of non-invasive address to a number of challenging 
insults. 
  This protocol was VERY effective for alleviating a consequential number of 
chronic cardiovascular insults.and did so without manifesting ANY untoward 
complications or 
  systemic compromises. 
  Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. 







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Subject : CS>Brooks tiptoe rebounding

Date : Sat, 21 Apr 2007 08:04:32 +0200

From : "Tony Moody" 

To : silver-list@eskimo.com



Here is Brooks alternative to using a rebounder. 

Tony Moody 



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Date forwarded: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 07:23:21 -0800 

From: "Brooks Bradley" 

To: silver-list@eskimo.com 

Date sent: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 10:23:05 -0500 

Forwarded by: silver-list@eskimo.com 

Send reply to: silver-list@eskimo.com 

Subject: CS>Protocol Comment 



About two years ago, primarily stimulated by comments from Dr. Walter 
Stoll, we 

investigated the possible benefits of utilizing a portable rebounder for 
ameliorating the 

insulting effects of emphysema. In addition to 

measurable effective response for emphysema, we found beneficial effects 
for a number of 

other afflictions.especially among the geriatric population. 

Rebounding proved to be, for us, the safest, least invasive, and most 
pleasant 

means for accomplishing address to diminishing emphysema's effects.as 
well 

as a consequential number of less threateningbut discomforting 
cardio-vascular and 

articulating-joint challenges. Even the lower-cost rebounders gave quite 
acceptable 

results.even when the volunteer was so compromised they were only able 
to sit on the 

edge and gently bounce the upper half of the torso. 

Nowfor the principal reason for this post. Quite 

serendipitously, we discovered a useful alternative for "rebounding"and 
one which does 

not require any adjunctive equipment. This simple technique has proved so 
beneficial...for 

methat I no longer use my rebounderas a frequent modality. This 
technique involves 

nothing more than selecting a convenient doorwaysecuring the hands to 
the upper door- 

face molding for supportand elevating the body via "tip-toeing"that 
is, raising to the balls 

of the feet. One can do this as fast...or as slowly...as is convenient for 
them to do so. The 

faster and more completely one releases...the more the internal physiology 
is 

stimulated.simply as a result of the inertial forces generated when the 
heels strike the 

floor. 

This simple exercise has benefited me enormously over the past 18 months. 

As one becomes more proficient, you may choose to drop and relax each arm 
(alternately 

every 30 seconds) and will experience a rather pronounced "rebound effect" 
in the 

chest/breast area. This, particular, exercise has aided me 

in sleeping better, toning my cardio-vascular system (especially venous 
stasis challenges in 

the lower extremities), while saving me considerable time and expense as a 
result of my no 

longer going to the gymnasium three times weekly for a workout, which is 
certainly more 

encompassingbut not all that more beneficial (at least in my eyes). 

At present, my personal regimen involves 200 fairly rapid elevations (or 
more) until the 

calves of the legs start to "ache" slightly. 

This aching-onset is a reliable indicator of when one should stopunless 
they are a younger 

athlete and are working on endurance parameters. When I started, I did 25 
elevations the 

first day and rapidly advanced to about 200 within 5 daysand have 
remained there ever 

since. I do this exercise twice daily (upon arising in the morning and just 
before bed-time). 

While I am in "better-than-average" physical condition for my chronological 
age, and can--- 

actually---do 400 continuous elevations, I find my present program yields 
quite adequate 

results. 

My enthusiasm for this simple technique is quite pronounced, 

and so is that of my immediate friends who have chosen to adopt it. 

It certainly is convenient, effective, TIME-SAVING.and ECONOMICAL. 

My apologies for such a lengthy post. 

Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. 

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Re: CS>Arthritis

[aKa Jhon]

this web site should cause us to at least investigate,,,



Actually, I am eating sugar, yes, white sugar even. And drink LOTS of 
coffee and tea, lots of dairy. My  blood sugar control has improved 
tremendously. My fingers have improved tremendously, with the arthritic 
nodes hugely reduced. Unfortunately my index fingers are still a bit 
twisted, but that stopped progressing as well. www.raypeat.com





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From: 

To: 
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Subject: CS>Unsubscribe


After reading many of these messages for the past few months I have 
concluded that they are not very helpful.



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Subject: Re: CS>Rectal CS



How about doing both ends and be done with it.

Sent via my Samsung Replenish from Boost Mobile

Tel Tofflemire  wrote:





Tel Tofflemire
Dewey, AZ.



From: David AuBuchon 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 9:40 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Rectal CS

Reviving this rectal CS thread...would rectal CS be a good idea for
liver cancer? Would it reach the liver directly? Would there be a
minimum volume needed to reach the liver?

I am thinking it would get to the liver faster by ingesting Colloidal 
Silver, and stay longer, remember problems

with the Liver are mostly caused by what we eat and Drink,
Tel Tofflemire, Herbalist www.quailwoodherbal.com
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CS>silver info,sec.try,

[aKa Jhon]

Does anyone have on treating pseudomonos and the noro virus???
Brooks u there???
thanks to all

CS>info on silver

[aKa Jhon]

Does anyone have on treating pseudomonos and the noro virus???
Brooks u there???
thanks to all

Re: CS>FOUND: Our Mightiest Germ Fighter, Science Digest March 1978

[aKa Jhon]

Nenah,

Please add me to your list ...
Thanks for your help..

majyo...@yahoo.com
  FOUND: Our Mightiest Germ Fighter, Science Digest March 1978


My librarian friend secured a scan of the original for me of “Our Mightiest 
Germ Fighter” from Science Digest, March 1978. If anyone wants a copy as a pdf 
file, email me and I’ll send it to you.



Nenah

  

Nenah Sylver, PhD

electromedicine specialist and author

The Rife Handbook of Frequency Therapy (2009)

& The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy (2004)

www.nenahsylver.com 




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Re: CS>DO NOT CALL LIST

[aKa Jhon]

good way to capture your #s

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From: "Trem" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: CS>DO NOT CALL LIST


Maybe false.  However I called the number and the national "do not call" 
recording jumped me through the hoops and said it was now a done deal. 
Also told me I could file a complaint after 31 days if called by a 
marketer.  So, maybe the machine that answered is a big hoax.  I doubt it. 
Only took a minute and might prevent a lot of aggravation.  I do not like 
telemarketers.


Trem


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From: "starshar" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 8:10 AM
Subject: RE: CS>DO NOT CALL LIST



Snopes is still saying false:  (I hope they're still correct!)

http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/cell411.asp





REMINDER: Cell Phone Numbers Go Public this month.

REMINDER.  all cell phone numbers are being released to

telemarketing

companies and you will start to receive sales calls.

 YOU WILL BE CHARGED FOR THESE CALLS

To prevent this, call the following number from your cell phone:
888-382-1222.
It is the National DO NOT CALL list It will only take a minute of your
time.. It blocks your number for five (5) years. You must call from

the cell

phone number you want to have blocked. You cannot call from a

different

phone number.

HELP OTHERS BY PASSING THIS ON .. It takes about 20 seconds.



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Re: CS>DO NOT CALL LIST

[aKa Jhon]

bad info??
http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/cell411.asp



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To: 
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Subject: CS>DO NOT CALL LIST



I thought this should be on list rather than off-topic

REMINDER: Cell Phone Numbers Go Public this month.

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CS>Re: CS eugenics

[aKa Jhon]

 Eugenics is not a four letter word.
We practice it in breeding animals etc..
Some practice eugenics when choosing a spouse..
Cross breeding can be a bad form,depending
if one is 'down breeding' a species,or in another
case is'up breeding' a species.
 The way it looks,down is winning
,,oh well...

Conservatism is dead.
Liberalism has no answers.
What comes next?
The rise of ethnopolitics.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Bob Banever 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 3:46 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>A closer look at americium 241 from a smoke detector


  bodhisattva,

So true.  Eugenics is being practiced by the Illuminati/CFR/Trilateral 
Commission/Bliderberger's etc. on a grand scale.  Just ask a Rockefeller or 
better yet a Rothschild, or even a Bush.  Bill Gates of all people recently 
stated as much in a speech he gave to support research into vaccines (another 
tool of their eugenics program).   He's giving millions towards this effort.   
Perhaps it's time to dig up our pitchforks.  Be sure to keep some CS on hand!

   Bob

Re: CS>Adding hydrogen peroxide to CS makes cars happen

[aKa Jhon]

oops,,read the reply message,


- Original Message - 
From: "Ode Coyote" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 10:13 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Adding hydrogen peroxide to CS makes cars happen





  I have a slightly deer damaged but well maintained 96 Saturn Coupe
sitting around.
2 liter 5 speed manual trans...lotsa miles on it.
 New tires, runs great, doesn't burn but 1 quart in 3,000 miles [like it
did when new ]
43 MPG Highway.
 AC probably works, haven't tried it.
I already have too many cars and have no use for this one.
 I've had it for about 2 weeks and personally know every owner since it
left the Georgia ? factory.

I was hoping to get $700 for it and a steal at that, but..I'll break even
at $200 [Chain of gratitude and coincidence at work] and I don't "need" a
profit.
 But I DO want to break even. [And people don't appreciate "free" ..it
doesn't actually help them in the long run, anyhow. ]

It's about a 6 hour drive from Atlanta. Sanford NC   Cash down, Tag it and 
go.


And mebbe we'll head for Talledega one day and have a use for a yard to
park the minivan in over night to catch a nap.

Ode  [Ken  919-776-6396 ]

At 10:21 AM 4/13/2010 -0700, you wrote:



Wow. For CS and MMS is ALL we have. We are almost broke, lost our car in a
terrible accident, which my husband survived [car pulled right in front of
him with no signal in busy Atlanta 6-lane traffic and we hate going to
Atlanta and live miles out in the countryside]... and no insurance to
replace, the perpetrator drove off and no numbers.. but lots of witnesses!
And no money to buy a new one.  So we thought, someone may gift us an old
car they have hanging around...

Yesterday someone answered a facebook plea and lives locally and drove
round to our place and took us back and loaned us her newish Isuzu
Trooper, until April 22 when her husband returns and needs it for
work.  She even offered to swap with her two day old fancy new car if she
needeed it to haul something over the weekend.

We live in the hold of some 'angelic' grace.. and it falls when times get
hard and we pray or just ask for answers from somewhere... surrender..

thank you and apologies for my profusion.. this is one of those days..

sunny x




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Re: CS>Adding hydrogen peroxide to CS makes cars happen

[aKa Jhon]

sold for cash if still available(,ie $200 i suppose), I live in N ga...


- Original Message - 
From: "Ode Coyote" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 10:13 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Adding hydrogen peroxide to CS makes cars happen





  I have a slightly deer damaged but well maintained 96 Saturn Coupe
sitting around.
2 liter 5 speed manual trans...lotsa miles on it.
 New tires, runs great, doesn't burn but 1 quart in 3,000 miles [like it
did when new ]
43 MPG Highway.
 AC probably works, haven't tried it.
I already have too many cars and have no use for this one.
 I've had it for about 2 weeks and personally know every owner since it
left the Georgia ? factory.

I was hoping to get $700 for it and a steal at that, but..I'll break even
at $200 [Chain of gratitude and coincidence at work] and I don't "need" a
profit.
 But I DO want to break even. [And people don't appreciate "free" ..it
doesn't actually help them in the long run, anyhow. ]

It's about a 6 hour drive from Atlanta. Sanford NC   Cash down, Tag it and 
go.


And mebbe we'll head for Talledega one day and have a use for a yard to
park the minivan in over night to catch a nap.

Ode  [Ken  919-776-6396 ]

At 10:21 AM 4/13/2010 -0700, you wrote:



Wow. For CS and MMS is ALL we have. We are almost broke, lost our car in a
terrible accident, which my husband survived [car pulled right in front of
him with no signal in busy Atlanta 6-lane traffic and we hate going to
Atlanta and live miles out in the countryside]... and no insurance to
replace, the perpetrator drove off and no numbers.. but lots of witnesses!
And no money to buy a new one.  So we thought, someone may gift us an old
car they have hanging around...

Yesterday someone answered a facebook plea and lives locally and drove
round to our place and took us back and loaned us her newish Isuzu
Trooper, until April 22 when her husband returns and needs it for
work.  She even offered to swap with her two day old fancy new car if she
needeed it to haul something over the weekend.

We live in the hold of some 'angelic' grace.. and it falls when times get
hard and we pray or just ask for answers from somewhere... surrender..

thank you and apologies for my profusion.. this is one of those days..

sunny x




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CS>omron neb.pricing

[aKa Jhon]

The prices are all over the place ( up to $200, )for this one.Best price I 
could find...$55 plus $ if

you add add-ons..




The new handheld Omron is pricey, $169 is the lowest I have
seen
on eBay but the reports on the unit are very good. It is a
new technology.
If I had the extra $ I would buy one. It runs on AA
batteries and is
the most efficient unit of its size and portability.


Garnet

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Peter Converse wrote:

Hi Garnet,

I was doing a little comparing of nebulizer droplet sizes last year,
myself.

I was under the impression that smaller particle sizes for nebulizer
droplets were better than larger due to their ability to penetrate
further into the lungs. Do you think I've had this backwards?

That being said, my Omron NE-C25 nebulizer (inexpensive model with
average to large sized droplets, I think) performed exceptionally well
for me last spring.

Ideas?

On another note, has anyone here built their own oxygen nebulizer as
seen on Silvermedicine?

thanks,

Peter

- Original Message - From: "Garnet" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2009 1:54 PM
Subject: Re: CS>equine nebulizer



What I did was look at the specs on various nebulizers on line and
noticed
that even between nebulizer units there is a difference in droplet
size, the
smaller handheld units had larger droplet sizes, although this may not 
be

true now since Omron has come out with a new technology in their
hand held unit.

The idea of the droplet being too small was mentioned to me by
a seller of the new Omron US unit. You can call him and ask him
since he would know much more than I do. He sells the new unit
on eBay which is where I found his email, he is in Texas.

Garnet

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Malcolm wrote:

Hi Garnet, I'd be interested in knowing how you - or whoever - arrived
at this conclusion, since the ultrasonic element seems to be about the
same in the one (only one) I've seen used for animals and the multitude
I've seen for humans.

My only point is that someone may have been trying to sell something on
the basis of an advertisement, not facts.  Consider what either of 
these
do; the ultrasonic part is to assure the carrier, water, and content 
are

not separated by distillation, as in steam, and are effectively
delivered to the alveoli, not trapped in larger passageways as droplets
like the whirly bird (for want of a better description) type 
humidifiers

make.

The idea that there could be a size of droplet that would be "too 
small"

seems suspect, unless the idea was that the medication would be left
behind by being dropped out or evaporated out of the solution being
"nebulized" - which I think means "fogged".  And if that were the case,
it would be useless for most of us warm-bloodeds. Most mammal lung
tissue is kinda similar when you are talking about the alveolar level -
has the same job, mainly getting CO2 out of the blood and O2 in; i.e.
packing an enormous area of very thin tissue in intimate contact with
the blood on one side and the atmosphere on the other into a reasonably
compact and protected flexible space.

Considering the minor cost of a used ultrasonic humidifier and the 
minor

effort of cleaning and sanitizing it (what else is CS for, after all?)
why not set aside some presumed (dare I say "nebulous"? ) 
theoretical

perfection in the interest of getting the job done; the proof's in the
results, not the ad copy.

One additional note; how many "nebulizers" does a veterinarian have to
have to treat the numerous mammalian and avian species that come 
through

the clinic door?  Give you a clue?  Does me. . . .

HTH, Malcolm

On Fri, 2009-10-16 at 10:01 -0500, Garnet wrote:

The issue of droplet size is that there is an optimal size above or
below which the medication is not delivered deep into lung tissue.

Room humidifiers do not make the same size droplet as a nebulizer.

You can research the specs on droplet size or speak to someone
who sells various nebulizers and knows the specs.

It's been some time ago that I researched this for myself when I
was looking at purchasing a nebulizer and many on this list
were discussing adapting room humidifiers. If that is all you have
then it is better than nothing but an ultrasonic humidifier is not
equivalent to an ultrasonic nebulizer. That is my only point.

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CS>mike,really this is my last post,,,really..

[aKa Jhon]

There seems to be a 'prejudice' against 'prejudiced' people...

"I think that the lofty idea of 'the war on racism' is gradually turning 
into a hideously false ideology. . And this anti-racism will be for the 
twenty-first century what communism was for the twentieth century: a source 
of violence."






I totally agree Garnet. This is not the place for religious discussions
and certainly not the place for misguided prejudice. Knock it off Bruce.

Cyndi



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Re: CS> Native American stories--OT

[aKa Jhon]

 In my experience,prejudices have a reason,,
and if your definition of 'diversity means all thinking
the same,where is the place for prejudice peoples..
just give them a pill??? Maybe they wish for a pill that
would the 'others' go away'...
oh well

"I think that the lofty idea of 'the war on racism' is gradually turning into a 
hideously false ideology. . And this anti-racism will be for the twenty-first 
century what communism was for the twentieth century: a source of violence."


Mike I couldn't help my self,,,
Mayer coppa,,or something..

.

(There will always be individuals  who harbor  resentment  and 
animosity,  but mostly  they will keep it to themselves  these days.  We 
can perhaps have some control over how people act in public,  but we 
cannot govern  what they think.It would be wonderful  if there were 
some magic pill or elixir that would make this all go away.)

Re: CS> Native American stories--OT

[aKa Jhon]

whatever,,,


- Original Message - 
From: "Evans, Antonio F." 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 6:46 AM
Subject: RE: CS> Native American stories--OT



Greetings all, my heritage includes Blackfoot Native Americans from a 
reservation at one point in South Carolina, Barbados descendants after 
slavery (Maternal side) and Colombian Natives, Panamanian Natives and 
Jamaican descendants from South America (Paternal side), I pass for a small 
deep brown skin African American male. I was just in Chattanooga Tennessee 
and the hate I felt from Caucasian men young, middle age and elderly was 
beyond belief in 2009. You could just feel hate in their stares and blocking 
our car from the gas pump. A young Caucasian male would not allow my friend, 
who is half Caucasian and African American, he could pass for a 6'2 moroccon 
Arab. We needed to fuel the car to head back to Washington DC, after 
visiting his Caucasian mother who works in the Alexian retirement Center in 
the mountains of Chattanooga, such a beautiful place with hatefulness all 
around, did I miss something or should this still be expected? Pardon my 
description just painting a mental picture for you all, I wish CS mixed with 
DMSO could harmonize this issue with some of the American family


A. Evans/ Nanya Nufushu EL


-Original Message-
From: AHorse52251 [mailto:ahorse52...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 12:55 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS> Native American stories--OT


  Apparently I have lived a much-too-sheltered life. I was not aware that 
there was such prejudice against NAs. I'm sorry.
  I look at things a bit backward from the rest of the world anyway. I 
remember as a child my mother was explaining to me how the Jews were hated 
and what Hitler had done. My question was why did people hate the Jews when 
it should be the Germans that were hated? Of course, no one nationality 
should be *hated* for anything. That would be like "throwing the baby out 
with the bath water." It can be hard, however...especially when it seems a 
whole country backs the craziness.

  I wonder how many times NAs have saved our white butts...
Janis

--- On Wed, 9/30/09, Sandy  wrote:


From: Sandy 
Subject: Re: CS>  Native American stories--OT
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Wednesday, September 30, 2009, 10:29 PM Yes, Zoe...I know. I've
tried to learn from the things that have come my way whether good or
bad. If we learn to be better from the negative things then they in
one respect are a positive learning experience. My father's negativity
has taught me how to be a better parent...I will always be there for
my children and they know that.

I knew you all would understand what I was saying because we
experience similar things.

I guess the point I was making is...whether it happened hundreds of
years ago it is still happening today and unless you are aware of how
the NAs were treated most people would have no idea.

Prejudice is terrible and I have hopes that one day it will be done
away with but it will only happen through teaching the future
generations not to practice it.

Sandy

--- On Wed, 9/30/09, zoe w 
wrote:

> From: zoe w 
> Subject: Re: CS> Native American stories--OT
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Date: Wednesday, September 30, 2009, 6:47 PM Sorry hit the wrong
> button earlier.
>
> Sandy thanks so much for sharing your story. It is unfortunate,
> but many of us suffered similar torments. Hang on to that pride,
> it will carry you thru many a trial and
tribulation.
>
> zoe
>
> zoe w wrote:
> > Sandy wrote:
> >> My Great-Grandmother was full blood Apache
but she
> died before I had the opportunity to meet her. My
Mother
> used to tell us stories about Geronimo and the
Superstition
> Mountains in Arizona, my mother's birth place. She
took us
> to see the bluff [Medicine Bluff] where he and his
horse
> jumped from into the Medicine River to get away from
the US
> Calvary...he lived and did get away.
> >>
> >> My Mother was a half-breed and as a child
when
> walking in Phoenix the white men would spit on her and
her
> family and then they [the white people] would cross to
the
> other side of the street so as to not be soiled by
their
> presence.
> >>
> >> I lived with prejudice from within my own
father's
> family [his mother did not want anything to do with
us
> Native American brown skinned children]...even from my
own
> father. Now that my Mother has passed on my father
claims we
> are not Apache but he lies...my Mother was very proud
of her
> heritage and wanted her children to be proud of it too
and
> we are.
> >>
> >> Just thought I would share some of my Native
> American history.
> >>
> >> Sandy
> >> --- On Wed, 9/30/09, zoe w 
> wrote:
> >>
> >>
>
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Re: CS>Brown Recluse Spider, What is Important

[aKa Jhon]

car battery can not shock...
  - Original Message - 
  From: Dianne France 
  To: silver-list 
  Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 7:31 AM
  Subject: RE: CS>Brown Recluse Spider, What is Important


  I was watching a video once that said that if bitten by a poisonous snake, 
they could shock the spot quickly, possibly 5-10 minutes they could change the 
poison in the bite to a normal protein the body could deal with and eliminate.  
I think they were using a strong shock like from a car battery in the 
emergency.  It's been a long time since I saw the video so my memory might not 
be accurate.
   
  Dianne
   
  > Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 03:48:48 -0500
  > From: oldgl...@bigcountry.net
  > To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  > Subject: CS>Brown Recluse Spider, What is Important
  > 
  > Hi Wayne,
  > 
  > If I knew when I was bitten, would have avoided the offender in the first
  > place. I don't think you have a clue until it begins to react and in the
  > first instance, it was 2 hours from thinking it was a chigger bite, until
  > intense pain, swelling and no turning back. The second time, I knew what it
  > was by comparison and ran to get treatment.
  > 
  > Only another person who has been bitten can emphasize with the pain, which I
  > can only describe as intense and throbbing.
  > 
  > Jean
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > > Is Time,
  > > how long after the bite
  > > 
  > > did you start the treatment,
  > > 
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CS>Mercola article

[aKa Jhon]

an interesting article,,,

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/02/05/new-guidelines-released-for-safe-usage-of-colloidal-silver-supplements.aspx

CS>silver list ??

[aKa Jhon]

  what happened to the 'silver' section of this list ??
Mike,,humm??
run out of silver stuff or bored ..

Re: [RE]CS>canned butter: COMMENT

[aKa Jhon]

  Brooks  B.
,,,again, thanks for all your insight and information.
Your input in all your mentioned areas have and will help
us to prepare..Only the book you recommended has been a question for me..
Maybe a second reading will clear up my lack of comprehension..
I am still looking for all your emailing etc.for my 'end of the world'
library..

aka
  - Original Message - 
  From: Brooks Bradley 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 10:45 PM
  Subject: [RE]CS>canned butter: COMMENT


  DEAR akaJohn, 
  I just read your post and have the following comment: We have tested EIS type 
Colloidal Silver in many scenarios involving foodstuffs and have never failed 
to subdue the entire lexicon of the insulting pathogens inflicted on the test 
media (all of the foodstuffs 
  involved in all of the investigations). We even applied CS as weak as 10 ppm 
as a direct insert 
  to "highly active" botulinum cultures.and never failed to get total 
resolution within minutes.usually within 10 minutes. 
  However, we have never used CS as a direct adjunct to canning foods 
ourselves; although we have received anecdotal reports from reliable 
researchers informing that various meat products (containing small amounts of 
CS)have been storedin unrefrigerated condition, for upwards of 2 
yearswithout untoward incident of any type. 
  Personally, I would feel perfectly confident in canning butter with about 2 
teaspoons 
  of 10 to 20 ppm Colloidal Silver used as a companionin each 1 pound 
container. Colloidal Silver has demonstrated to be simply SPLENDIDAS BOTH 
PREVENTIVE AND TREATMENT for botulinum pathogens. 
  At least, that has been our experience over the immediately past 12 years. 
  Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. 
  P.S. CS has been just as effective against, essentially, the entire catalog 
of alimentary system pathogenic insultsviral, as well as the more numerous 
bacterial threats commonly experienced in the daily life of our citizenry. 
Sometimes, when NOTHING else exhibited any 
  genuine influence against fulminating cases of the more dangerous pathogens. 









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Subject : CS>canned butter

Date : Thu, 1 May 2008 21:20:29 -0400

From : "aKa Jhon" 

To : 





I have canned butter using this 
method,(http://simplicityfirst.wordpress.com/2008/04/24/canning-butter/#comments),,however
 I was warned about the possibility of botulism.. 

I understand it is near impossible to detect before ingesting.Any 'silver' 
method to insure my canning methods or 

preventing it in the 'cooking' process ?? I believe Brooks has 

discussed treatment somewhere,,but I am still waiting for my 

collection on CD from W.( hint) 

tanks in advance.. 

aka Jhon
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CS>canned butter

[aKa Jhon]

 I have canned butter using this 
method,(http://simplicityfirst.wordpress.com/2008/04/24/canning-butter/#comments),,however
 I was warned about the possibility of botulism..
  I understand it is near impossible to detect before ingesting.Any 'silver' 
method to insure my canning methods or
preventing it in the 'cooking' process ?? I believe Brooks has
discussed treatment somewhere,,but I am still waiting for my
collection on CD from W.( hint)
tanks in advance..
aka Jhon

Fw: CS> Clifton Mining/Malaria News

[aKa Jhon]

- Original Message - 
From: "Brooks Bradley" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 1:42 AM
Subject: Re: CS> Clifton Mining/Malaria News



  It appears astonishing to me that this company is making
such claims as to the effectivity of Silver Colloid...against
malaria.  If true, it is the first successful protocol involving
CS, of which I am aware.
The type, size and scope of their actual studies, plus the dynamics
of the actual protocol application would be most
enlightening..providing they do in fact exist.  This should be
international headline stuff.if genuine.
   All of our research on malarial plasmodiums.involving 
direct address by CS, IN VIVO, has proven futile.

This is not to say that others have not found success in their
attempts..but the very nature of the malarial agent seems to
present a VERY profound challenge for nominal levels of CS.
References to peer reviews or copies of actual research results
achieved by this company (exclusive of any proprietary product
manufacturing procedures) would be greatly appreciated..from
anyone on this list, cognizant of such.   Sincerely, Brooks
Bradley.
- Original Message -
From: tornado <1a...@xs4all.nl>
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS> Clifton Mining/Malaria News
Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 13:09:06 +0200



Committee on International Relations U.S. House of Representatives
Henry J. Hyde, Chairman
CONTACT: Sam Stratman, (202) 226-7875, March 16, 2005

For IMMEDIATE Release

Combating Malaria and Tuberculosis
Christopher Smith Schedules Tuesday Hearing on Implementing
Proven Treatment and Eradication Methods
BACKGROUND: The global pandemic of HIV/AIDS is frequently the
focus of high-profile news coverage, but much of the developing
world is being ravaged by two other, relatively unknown, killer
diseases: malaria and tuberculosis (TB). One-third of the world
is infected with the TB bacterium, and it is the leading cause of
death for people with HIV/AIDS. Africa is currently experiencing
a TB explosion due in large part to the AIDS pandemic. Similarly,
Malaria is the primary killer of children and pregnant women in
Africa, and one of the top killers in Asia and South America.
Every day about 3,000 children die from the disease worldwide.
Infection rates for malaria dwarf those of HIV/AIDS, and the vast
majority of malaria patients are pregnant women and children
living in poverty. However, both diseases are preventable and
curable. A six-month course of anti-TB drugs costs only $12 and
can produce cure rates of up to 95 percent even in the poorest
countries. Malaria, likewise, is inexpensive and easy to treat,
and can be controlled with proven successful methods combining
anti-malarial drugs, bed nets, and use of small, environmentally
safe amounts of insecticide in homes and buildings. In FY 2005,
the United States will provide $2.9 billion in bilateral and
multilateral assistance to fight HIV/AIDS, malaria and
tuberculosis. Among the witnesses scheduled to testify Tuesday is
Youssou N?Dour, Senegalese Jazz Musician, Goodwill Ambassador,
and Roll Back Malaria Partnership.

WHAT: Subcommittee Oversight Hearing: Malaria and TB:
Implementing Proven Treatment
and Eradication Methods
Subcommittee on Africa, Global Human Rights and International Operations,
U.S. Rep. Christopher H. Smith (R-NJ), Chairman
WHEN: 2:00 p.m., Tuesday, April 26, 2005
WHERE: Room 2172 Rayburn House Office Building

WITNESSES: Mark Dybul, M.D., Assistant U.S. Global AIDS
Coordinator and Chief Medical Officer, Office of the
U.S. Global AIDS Coordinator, U.S. Department of State;

Michael Miller, Deputy Assistant Administrator, Bureau for Global
Health, U.S. Agency for
International Development;

William Moeller, President and CEO, American Biotech Labs;

Youssou N?Dour, Senegalese Jazz Musician, Goodwill Ambassador,
Roll Back Malaria Partnership; and

Paul Nunn, M.D., Coordinator, TB, HIV, and Drug Resistance Unit,
World Health Organization.

http://wwwc.house.gov/international_relations/109/news042605 .htm
Written Testimony of William D. Moeller
President, American Biotech Laboratories
80 West Canyon Crest Road
Alpine, Utah 84004
Presented to Members of The House International Relations Committee
Subcommittee on Africa, Global Human Rights, and International Operations
April 26, 2005
INTRODUCTION
Good Morning. I am William D. Moeller, Chairman and President of
American Biotech Laboratories
of Alpine, Utah ("ABL"), a company which produces engineered,
metallic silver, nano-sized particles
in water-based products. Our engineered silver particles have
performed far beyond anyone's
expectations as anti-microbial agents, against a staggering
variety of microbes such as malaria, flesheating
bacteria (MRSA - Methicillin Resistant Staphylococcus aureus) and E.coli.
Whether used on surfaces as disinfectants or if taken internally
as supplements, all of our ABL products
are non-toxic and have no known adverse human side effects. Our
pro

CS>Brooks Bradley posts wanted,,

[aKa Jhon]

I have many of Brook's posts,however I would like
all of them ,since I know I have missed many over the years..Do
any of you CSers have them all,,?? 
  I find myself going over the ones I have for information for myself and 
others..
Thanks in advance,,btw this is a great list,,even when Mike has to 'crack the
preverbal whip' to keep us on the straight and narrow..
If your listening Mike,,thanks for being a 'good egg..'

Re: CS>Transdermal Magnesium Products link

[aKa Jhon]

$1.89 per pound..

http://www.simply-natural.biz/Nigari.php
  - Original Message - 
  From: Nenah Sylver 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 12:08 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>Transdermal Magnesium Products link


  Nigari is either calcium chloride, magnesium chloride, or a mixture of the 
two. It's used for making tofu (soy is estrogenic and dangerous, so I don't eat 
it except for small amounts of properly fermented miso or soy sauce).

  I get my magnesium chloride flakes as nigari, from Japan, here:

  http://www.herbalhut.com/detail.aspx?ID=21178

  Thanks for the recipe, Mary. It's much cheaper making your own.

  Best,
  Nenah

- Original Message - 
From: Paula Perry 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 8:43 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Transdermal Magnesium Products link


That is interesting. I have never heard of Nigari but I imagion it would be 
much cheaper. We don't have a co-op here. I wonder where I could get the 
Nigari. I guess I will google.
Thanks,
Paula

Re: CS>Food poisoning: GENERAL COMMENT

[aKa Jhon]

makes sense now,,
thanks,,


Subject: Re: CS>Food poisoning: GENERAL COMMENT



aKa Jhon wrote:

> */ ,,,I don't understand what this meansany translations??? /*

>> */ - Original Message - /*
> */ From: "Brooks Bradley" < /**/ brooks76...@lycos.com /*
> <mailto:brooks76...@lycos.com>*/ > /*

> Active research revealed that concentrations of CS as low
> as 3 ppm were effective, but rather large volumes were required for
> rapid-onset positive results (about 10 ounces initial dosage, followed
> by another 10 ounces in approximately 20 minutes).  Favorable response
> WAS NOT a direct effect of linear increase of PPM strength;  e.g.  10
> ppm CS yielded favorable results 4X as rapidly, as did 2 ppm
> concentrations...for equivalent volumetric measure.
>



I'll take a stab...

For food poisoning from bad food that has been eaten:

1.  Actual tests were performed to get this information.

2.  Low concentrations of Colloidal Silver (CS) are effective.
(As low as 2 or 3 ppm)

3.  If low doses of CS are used, then the volume (ounces) of CS used
must be increased so that you get more total silver content.

4.  To be effective, the volume used for 3ppm CS was 10 ounces right away 
,

followed 20 minutes later by another 20 ounces.

5.  If you used the same amount of 5ppm and 10ppm CS, the results from 
using
the 10ppm would be *more* than doubled.  If you doubled the volume of 
the
5ppm CS so it had the same silver content as the 10ppm CS in the 
original

volume, they would work the same.

Dan






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Re: CS>Food poisoning: GENERAL COMMENT

[aKa Jhon]

,,,I don't understand what this meansany translations???


- Original Message - 
From: "Brooks Bradley" 

>> Active research revealed that concentrations of CS as low as 3 ppm 
> were effective, but rather large volumes were required for rapid-onset 
> positive results (about 10 ounces initial dosage, followed by another 10 
> ounces in approximately 20 minutes).  Favorable response WAS NOT a direct 
> effect of linear increase of PPM strength;  e.g.  10 ppm CS yielded favorable 
> results 4X as rapidly, as did 2 ppm concentrations...for equivalent 
> volumetric measure.  

Re: CS>brown recluse

[aka jhon]

I had an 'bite' by what a pharmancist said 'looked' like the BR spider 
bite,,would not heal,,recommended me to go
to MD,,,used c/s with DMSO in an eyedroppered bottle,,after a couple weeks of 
constant dapping,,the incurable
went away,,no scar,,the ph.just rolled his eyes when I showed him later...,,,oh 
well,,,btw the bite itched a lot..
I guess it may have been a br spider bite,,oh well,,
  - Original Message - From: Barbara 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 4:30 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>brown recluse


  What I meant Mike is that one person says put some ice on the bite and the 
next person recommends heat.  When you don't know what is right, it is next to 
impossible to make a right decision.  More like Russian roulette.  

  I sure will let you all know how this all ended.  And I wanted to thank you 
for your generous help :)

  Barbara



That's what taking personal responsibility for your health-care 
decisions means. *You* are the only one who can decide what's best to try 
from among the options you are aware of.

At least now she knows there are other options.

Thanks for your caring Barbara. Please let us know how it turns out, 
whatever she decides to do.

Be well,

Mike D.

[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
[mdev...@eskimo.com]
[Speaking only for myself...   ]

Re: CS>argyria & EIS

[aKa Jhon]

great,,
thanks...
  - Original Message - 
  From: Robert Berger 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 11:01 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>argyria & EIS


  Absolutely !!!  Take one unit of 10 PPM EIS and add one unit of DW and you 
have 5 PPM EIS.

  "Ole Bob"

  aKa Jhon  wrote:
can you dilute 10% C/S to make 3-5%???

Re: CS>argyria & EIS

[aKa Jhon]

can you dilute 10% C/S to make 3-5%???
  - Original Message - 
  From: Robert Berger 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 11:21 AM
  Subject: RE: CS>argyria & EIS


  Listers,

  It is common belief anomg us that if little is good then more is better. THAT 
IS ONE BIG LIE

  Go to google and search for Hawkeye Jensen, inc, and read their report.
  3 PPM is far superior 10 ppm and 20 ppm, as shown in their in vitro testing.

  I have mentioned several times about my work with Waldamer Boot in the 
Netherlands where he reported a greenhouse customer had a 1,600,000 sq ft 
greenhouse of cucumbers that had a mosiac. The government said plow it up, but 
Waldamer had the man spray his crop with 20-40 PPB ( that's right paaarts per 
billion  ont million that we normally use. 

  In four weeks time the mosiac was gone and the man reported that he had never 
had such large cukes. !!!

  When you make your next brew, measure and record the current vs. time and as 
you take your current read! ing check for a T. E.  The monment that you see the 
start of a T. E. then stop the process and you will have a product that is 98%+ 
ionic. You can't do much better than that.

  "Ole Bob"

  P>S> read my book

CS>I don't know,,,

[aKa Jhon]

>
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Re: CS>Colloid master, vs Silverpuppy, was Re: CS>Where to bye a machine I can trust?

[aKa Jhon]

I have these two,plus Trem's earlier model w/o the stirrer,plus his new 
'stirrer' model,,(http://www.silvergen.com/)
I run several at a time,combining the SilverPuppy's magnet stir with a non 
stir model..

Gotto' go,,all this stirring stuff makes me dizzy..
BTW thanks all for the Green Food info,,most helpful,,as usual from this 
list


- Original Message - 
Subject: CS>Colloid master, vs Silverpuppy, was Re: CS>Where to bye a 
machine I can trust?



Not to quibble overmuch but several people have found they did need to 



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CS>best 'green' food powder?/

[aKa Jhon]

 After getting my silver making devices up to snuff etc.,I would like advice/
input on ;green food',,ie a near complete green food supplement
or 'survival' food( if needed  to  be in hard times.....)
thanks,,
aka Jhon

(ps, Brooks B.??)

Re: CS> Blue blood myth

[aKa Jhon]

thanks,, again ,,'race  is now a four letter word, facts overrule 
political correctness




- Original Message - 
From: "Ode Coyote" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 8:05 AM
Subject: Re: CS> Blue blood myth



Argyria was such

a common occurrence among the royalty that it earned
them the name "blue-blood".


##  I would really like to see this myth either proven or put to rest.

There are many much better reasons that royalty would be called blue
bloods and incidence of argyria in silver mine/foundry etc workers where
they injest dust all day long is about one in 2 thousand according to one
of the researchers in the "Colloidal Silver" collection of Gov't documents
[none of which studied "CS" in any form] who had great difficulty in
creating or finding subjects to study...and that, back in pre OSHA days.

"Blue Blood"
   1834, translating Sp. sangre azul, claimed by certain families of
Castile as uncontaminated by Moorish or Jewish admixture, from the notion
of the visible veins of people of fair complexion.
Unlike so many other expressions, this one is well documented. It's a
direct translation of the Spanish sangre azul. Many of the oldest and
proudest families of Castile used to boast that they were pure bred, 
having

no link with the Moors who had for so long controlled the country , or
indeed any other group. As a mark of this, they pointed to their veins,
which seemed bluer in colour than those of such foreigners. This was 
simply

because the blue-tinted venous blood showed up more prominently in their
lighter skin, but they took it to be a mark of their pure breeding. So the
phrase blue blood came to refer to the blood which flowed in the veins of
the oldest and most aristocratic families. The phrase was taken over into
English in the 1830s.

"Royal Blue" from the rarity of Indigo dyes, thus too expensive for the
commoner to wear.
Popularity and economic value of the plant reached a peak during the 
Middle

Ages, when indigo was the most important dye plant for blue color in the
western portion of the world.

It's highly unlikely that silver particles becoming lodged in capillaries
causes argryia.
Silver metal is resistant to most acids and it's unlikely that 'Blue
Bloods' commonly  had the technology to make silver ions.
Nitric acid did exist by 800 AD, but just how common was it?

Think about it:
Your blood doesn't leak out of your lungs or stomach, therefore, any
particle has to be smaller than a blood cell to 'get in'.
If it can't get in, it can't become 'lodged' in a capillary, won't if it's
smaller than a blood cell and did get in ...and... can't get out if it
didn't get in.

Ode


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Re: CS>OT - iodine deficiency

[aKa Jhon]

Iodine (liquid) from the drug store painted near the belly botton about silver 
dollar size,,
btw if it disappears in 12 hours or less,,you need it,,keep it up till it lasts 
over 12 hours,,,could take awhile of daily use,,months,,,YMMV
  - Original Message - 
  From: Lea Ann 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 9:02 PM
  Subject: CS>OT - iodine deficiency


  Hello,

  I've been using "Real Salt" for about a year now and my mother came to visit 
and is concerned that we will become iodine deficient.

  I know that "Real Salt" is good for you because of the minerals.  Does anyone 
know of a good source of iodine aside from using iodised salt?

  Sorry for the off-topic question but so many people here are knowledgeable.  

  Blessings,
  Lea Ann Savage
  Satellite Beach, FL
  321-773-7088
  Philippians 4:8

CS>[Fwd: CS>]

[aka Jhon]

oops,,sorry pushed wong button

 Original Message 
Subject:CS>
Resent-Date:Tue, 28 Sep 2004 17:51:31 -0700
Resent-From:silver-list@eskimo.com
Date:   Tue, 28 Sep 2004 20:51:20 -0400
From:   aka Jhon 
Reply-To:   maj.yo...@slacknix.com
To: undisclosed-recipients:;



09.28.2004 Terra (Middle Earth Moves), BushCo (Heads Roll at HQ)




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[aka Jhon]

09.28.2004 Terra (Middle Earth Moves), BushCo (Heads Roll at HQ)

Note: Entities are identified by a blue typeface. Aspect words are 
enclosed in square brackets []. Attribute words/phrases are within 
parentheses (). Interpretive editorial comments are preceded by an 
asterisk *.


Dataset distilled from 31.2 million reads. It is anticipated that 
processing will bring in another 30 million or so over the course of the 
run. The resulting interpretations will be posted as completed. At this 
point, we are anticipating only 4 installments to this report. And three 
custom report entities from which an executive summary will be provide 
to subscribers.




Terra (Middle Earth Moves)

With the earthquakes today in Central(ish) California, a rewrite of this 
report proved necessary. The original entities being modeled were 
dropped and the Terra entity was run first instead. Perhaps a good thing.


Within the Terra entity, and perhaps pertaining to St. Helens the 
volcano in the PNW, we find a lexical structure indicating 
[floods/flooding] which is troubling in that it has many associations 
with [mud/dissolved earth] as cross linked aspect modifiers. We also 
still have lexical sets which represent the concept of [rising/lifting] 
and modified with attribute sets containing (earth/ground/field/copse) 
as well as further aspect modifiers of [forest/glen] and other words 
suggestive of 'woodlands'. These are apparently to be headed 'up' in the 
world.


We need to note that this data set is also based on an October/November 
time frame which runs to about November 14. Our last solid (bespoke day) 
in the Terra entity is November 12th but there are a few distance 
aspects indicating a few days beyond. So it is unlikely that anything 
transpiring now in either California or at St. Helens is referenced 
here. It is true that the data set include the immediate future (as in 
September 30th).


As to the Terra entity we also find a lexical arm indicating that [rain] 
in (masses/massed/amassed/gathered in quantity) will (hover) over the 
[earth] and (join/participate) in the [floods/flooding]. Further we find 
that a [group/gathering/collective] of [people] will be (caught/snared) 
and have to (seek/obtain) [union] with [those outside/external 
resources] in order to be [extracted/rescued]. A curious descriptor set 
for the 'floods' is that it is [far/long/distant](removed)? as 
though it travels far?


Within the Terra entity, in the lexical subset clearly geographically 
referencing California, we find that a rare 'double mirror' formation is 
in place. These are lexical structures where the aspects in the top half 
of the structure are 'mirrored' within the bottom half by the same 
lexical values only in positions as attributes. Further the 'double' 
part of this structure is that not only are the top half (*primary*) 
aspects 'mirrored' below, but the attributes in the top half lexical 
structure for these aspects are themselves mirrored in the aspect 
modifier set in the bottom half. Clear as mud?


Well, suffice it to say that a very complex lexical structure has formed 
within the California lexical arm of the Terra entity. This structure is 
very rare. The *only* other time we have seen this was within the ALTA 
data set which led to the 'power outage 2003' prediction. So we have a 
tenancy to take these structures as serious guides to the 'potential' 
for the data set.


In this case, the 'double mirror' for California can be characterized as 
[departure]. We find a whole lexical set around [air/oxygen/respiration] 
is (impaired/reduced) and [populace/people/groups] will (depart/leave) 
in [crowds/masses] resulting in having [residences] (not fixed/not 
permanent/temporary). This 'bad air' comes from the [west] and 
(flows/steps/travels) causing (forced)[movement/relocation]. The [air] 
will be (driven) by [wind] as though something will produce a 'bad air' 
which then will be moved by the wind.


Many of the [people] will (wrongly/inappropriately) (seek refuge/hide) 
(under) [bed/home] resulting in some (trauma/hurt/damage). Much 
[desperation] will (drive) [magicians/sorcerers] to (try/attempt) 
[potions] of (resolution), all to (no avail/failure after effort).


There will be [many/multitudes] of (movements/shifts) after a 
[large/big] (difficult)[start/beginning/initial] (striving/surge). 
Further a [seeming/felt/experienced] (eternity/excessive/long) 
[time/period] will (emerge) [before/in anticipation of] the (cessation) 
*of the* [beginning].


And as if all the above is not enough, we have another lexical arm 
within the Terra entity which describes 
[electrical/electrified/fired/fueled/forced] [water](flowing/rushing). 
This 'storm' ED Note: interpreting 'electrified water' as a storm.. will 
(turn/alter) a [long road] into a [ladder/segment] which will 
(isolate/strand/encapsulate) [residents/populace] of 
[considerable/numerous] [areas/islands]. This storm will turn 
[bridges/ways/avenues] 

Re: CS>Bill Moyers Column

[aka Jhon]

This is Mike's list,,he will take care of his business,,start your own 
and be boss...


"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge 
to rule."

H. L. Mencken
.

patriot2...@mindspring.com wrote:

Please keep the political crap off the Silver List.   Whenever I read 
this sort of thing on any forum, it contaminates the experience for 
me, and if it continues, I begin to doubt the judgment of the group 
participants in other things, including the topics the forum generally 
covers, as well.   There are dozens -- no, HUNDREDS! -- of Internet 
sites where you can hang out and reinforce each others' political 
prejudices, without using this forum.   Mike D. has stated his 
feelings on the topic, as well, and I respect him for that.  Thank you.


Marlys


At 02:58 AM 9/19/2004, you wrote:

TY SO MUCH FOR POSTING THIS I HAVE PRINTED OUT TEN COPIES FOR FRIENDS 
AND THEY ARE TELLING OTHER ABOUT IT I MAY BE PRINTING OUT MORE COPIES.

JEN





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Re: CS>Indium Sulphate

[aka Jhon]

 Several of us tried Indiumdidn't notice anything but a loss of $60 
or so


Matthew McCann PE wrote:


Hi, Members of the List,
 
The archives had a brief exchange, posted about a

one and a half years ago, on Indium Sulphate solution
aka colloidal indium. Some remarkable claims have been
made for this substance, some going beyond what is
attributed to EIS. Has anybody been using it, and had
experiences worth sharing? Thanks for any report!
 
Best regards,
 
Matthew




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Re: CS>OT: Colloidal Indium

[aka jhon]

Trem, thanks in advance for the addresses...
  - Original Message - 
  From: Trem 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 8:26 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>OT: Colloidal Indium


  Hi Neil,

  You can buy it already bottled and pay dearly or you can buy the sulphate and 
mix it into distilled water for a very small fraction of that cost which is 
what I do.

  You can buy 10 grams and have it delivered for about $80.  If anyone wants 
the addresses for the bottled indium or my source for the sulphate you can 
contact me.

  It's not colloidal.  It's a solution.  The indium dissolves completely.

  Trem

- Original Message - 
From: neilinthegar...@aol.com 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 4:49 PM
Subject: CS>OT: Colloidal Indium


Someone on this list mentioned a source for colloidal Indium.   
Could you post that again, please?  (or email me privately at 
neilinthegar...@aol.com)  Thanks so much 
Neil 

Re: CS>Re: CS,OT, but good!

[aka jhon]

http://www.strike-the-root.com/deja_vu.html
  Subject: CS>Re: CS,OT, but good!



  TWAS THE NIGHT BEFORE PAYBACK

  Twas the night before Payback and all through the Land, 
  They're running like rabbits in Afghanistan. 

Re: CS>People vs. animals

[aka jhon]

...thank you,,,thank you you very much,,
Elvis has left the building,,
OK,Mike  I'll  shut up nowreally...I will..


- Original Message -
From: "rusty233" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 5:56 PM
Subject: Re: CS>People vs. animals


> HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
> - Original Message -
> From: "aka jhon" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 5:57 PM
> Subject: Re: CS>People vs. animals
>
>
> >   My ancestors didn't come out of trees ,, I guess I'm
> > not allowed on the list,maybe I'll just shutup and be quite
> > while the monkeys chatter,,,
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Thelma Seto" 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 5:37 PM
> > Subject: CS>People vs. animals
> >
> >
> > > We are all animals.  The information on this list pertinent to animals
> can
> > > easily be transferred to humans, and vice versa.  Please don't ask
those
> > of
> > > us who use the same stuff on ourselves as we use on our animals to be
on
> > two
> > > of these lists!!!  Mastitis is mastitis.  I would think if it works on
a
> > > goat's mastitis, it would work on a woman's mastitis.  And I DON'T
> > subscribe
> > > to having separate lists for women and for men...
> > >
> > > Thelma
> > >
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Re: CS>People vs. animals

[aka jhon]

  My ancestors didn't come out of trees ,, I guess I'm
not allowed on the list,maybe I'll just shutup and be quite
while the monkeys chatter,,,

- Original Message -
From: "Thelma Seto" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 5:37 PM
Subject: CS>People vs. animals


> We are all animals.  The information on this list pertinent to animals can
> easily be transferred to humans, and vice versa.  Please don't ask those
of
> us who use the same stuff on ourselves as we use on our animals to be on
two
> of these lists!!!  Mastitis is mastitis.  I would think if it works on a
> goat's mastitis, it would work on a woman's mastitis.  And I DON'T
subscribe
> to having separate lists for women and for men...
>
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Re: CS>oil quip

[aka jhon]

As a child I ingested kerosene,,not dead yet,,also the ole' timers used it
as medicine,,the kerosene only affected my memory..
- Original Message -
From: "James Osbourne, Holmes" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 7:49 PM
Subject: RE: CS>oil quip


> Thanks Nina,
> Way too flippant.
>
> I appreciate your point and agree.  I did not intend to belittle anyone.
> In all seriousness, I have yet to decide if canola is good or bad.  I have
> not seen much hard info on it.  If you have a source I will be grateful.
I
> try to avoid it generally, but it is ubiquitous, even in stores that sell
> wholesome foods.
> Since the commodities cartels have done so much previous poisoning with
oils
> and modified oils (My main reference is Mary Enig) I tend to suspect they
> are doing it with this oil as well.
>
> No offense to anyone intended except any conscious maleficent profiteers.
>
> By the way, kerosene is excellent for killing head lice and nits but will
> kill you if you drink it.
>
> I apologize as well to the unwary.
>
> James-Osbourne: Holmes
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Nina Silver [mailto:ni...@bestweb.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 2:51 PM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>oil quip
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: James Osbourne, Holmes 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 1:46 PM
> Subject: RE: CS>oil quip
>
>
> > Re: Canola Oil
> > "Most of what we grow on our farm is used for alternative diesel  fuel.
>
> > > That sounds like an excellent use for it.
> > > James-Osbourne: Holmes
>
> I must protest. This is a little unfair, because something's FUNCTION does
> NOT always tell us about its INTRINSIC danger or safety.
>
> For instance, other oils are/can be used for industrial purposes. Or let's
> take another example: pesticides. We all know that Malathion is dangerous.
> Some excellent substitutes are, believe it or not, Dr. Bronner's
Eucalyptus
> soap. Spray it on the little bugs and they die.
>
> Yet I doubt that anyone on this list would classify Dr. Bronner's soap as
> dangerous (unless you drank a lot of it).
>
> Another example: take a commercial insect repellent that is nasty. (I
can't
> give you a name, because I don't use that stuff.) Well, peppermint and
> citronella work well. But no one would put peppermint in the same
category.
>
> People who farm Canola are hard-working and deserve respect. And industry
> needs industrial oils. Would you rather that petroleum be used?
>
> If you don't like Canola, you don't have to eat it.
>
> Regards,
> Nina Silver, Ph.D.
>
> Author, *The Handbook of Rife Frequency Healing*
> Read the Intro on my website http://www.heart-of-healing.com
>
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Re: CS>Oregano Oil,,??

[aka jhon]

A big thanks,for the info,,
  - Original Message - 
  From: wolfcreek1 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, October 15, 2001 6:35 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>Oregano Oil,,??


  > How does Oregano Oil fit into the grand scheme
  > of health/etc...
   
  Oregano essential oil is a powerful anti-infectious agent (for respiratory, 
intestines, genital, nerves, blood, and lymphatics) with large-spectrum action 
against bacteria, mycobacteria, fungus, virus, and parasites.  It's a general 
tonic and immune simulant.

  The owner of Young Living Essential Oils has recently advised the following  
four E.O.'s in case of anthrax threat:

  Melissa (Melissa Officinalis) - 
  Thyme - (Thymus Vulgaris) - 
  Thieves - contains:  Clove, Lemon, Cinnamon Bark, Eucalyptus, Rosemary
  Lemon - (Citrus Limon) - Lemon has antiseptic-like properties and contains 
compounds that have been studied for their effects on immune function.  
According to Jean Valnet, M.D., the vaporized essence of lemon can kill 
miningococcus bacteria in 15 minutes, typhoid bactilli in one hor, 
staphylococcus aureus in two hours, and peumonoccus bacteria within three 
hours.  Even a 0.2% solution of lemon oil can kill diphtheria bacteria in 20 
minutes.  Lemon oil has been widely used in skin care to cleanse skin and 
reduce wrinkles.

  Thieves is a YLEO exclusive blend.  Since you wouldn't necessarily know 
when/if anthrax spores were distributed near you, many people are keeping the 
above and/or similar essential oils dispersed throughout their homes and/or 
work environments on a daily basis (say an hour or so each day).  In the event 
that you were subjected to anthrax, it's possible the daily inhalation of these 
essential oils could help keep you protected.  

  They further suggest placing a few drops on your air filter mask as 
protection from inhalation of spores.  Which possibly placing CS directly on an 
air filter mask could do the same thing?

  Julie & Critters

CS>Oregano Oil,,??

[aka jhon]

  How does Oregano Oil fit into the grand scheme
of health/etc...
 

CS>home-made gas,,,

[aka jhon]

for bio protection,,used with C/S
http://www.sierratimes.com/archive/files/oct/03/arwh100301.htm


article on antrax..
  http://www.sierratimes.com/archive/files/oct/05/arcdc100501.htm

Re: CS>Sore throat

[aka jhon]

Where is there info on the Magnetic Pulser  ??
Thanks

- Original Message - 
From: "Terry Chamberlin" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 11:17 PM
Subject: CS>Sore throat


> Listers,
> A couple days ago I began to get a sore throat. So, at
> bedtime, I had a large cup of Peppermint tea made with
> about 10 oz of CS.
> 
> AS the night wore on, I awoke frequently feeling the
> throat become more and more sore and painful. At 7:00
> AM, I woke up with a raging sore throat, with raw pain
> up into my sinuses.
> 
> So I got up and plugged in my Magnetic Pulser and lay
> back down in bed and held it at various places around
> my throat and sinuses for 2 full cycles (about 130
> "clicks").
> 
> Woke up at 8:00 with all pain gone and sinuses clear!
> 
> Not the first time I've seen the Pulser work that
> efficiently.
> 
> Was disappointed that the CS didn't do it, though.
> 
> Terry
> 
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CS>oops,,

[aka jhon]

 That is  Hanna  PWT, not TDT..
sorry,,

- Original Message - 
From: "aka jhon" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 5:47 AM
Subject: CS>dazed and confused,,


> After searching the silver list,,I still don't know
> the answer..I have both the Hann TDT and thePPM
> testers for my distilled water and silver and gold products.
> They give me different readings,,How and which one should I use ??
> tanks..
> 
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CS>dazed and confused,,

[aka jhon]

 After searching the silver list,,I still don't know
the answer..I have both the Hann TDT and thePPM
testers for my distilled water and silver and gold products.
They give me different readings,,How and which one should I use ??
tanks..


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Re: CS>making,using c/g

[aka jhon]

I believe this is a better link for A/C  gens..

http://colloidalsilvergens.com/colloidal_silver_generator_store.htm


- Original Message - 
From: "Frank Key" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 7:24 PM
Subject: Re: CS>making,using c/g


> aka jhon  wrote:
> 
> >   Has anyone one the list used colloidal gold,,and
> > what were the results ??
> >   Also for making c/g,,anyone know about this generator??
> > http://colloidalsilvergens.com/index.htm
> > Any help,,thanks in advance..
> 
> DC generators will not make colloidal gold.
> 
> frank key
> 
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CS>making,using c/g

[aka jhon]

  Has anyone one the list used colloidal gold,,and
what were the results ??
  Also for making c/g,,anyone know about this generator??
http://colloidalsilvergens.com/index.htm
Any help,,thanks in advance..










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Re: CS>The Following from Quackwatch May be of Interest

[aka jhon]

  first the lawyers,,then...

- Original Message - 
  From: James Osbourne, Holmes 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 4:10 PM
  Subject: RE: CS>The Following from Quackwatch May be of Interest


  I can't remember the details, but there was a political upheaval of some sort 
in Amsterdam, perhaps in the 1500s.  To start things off, they hung all of the 
lawyers. 

  James-Osbourne: Holmes

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Re: CS>The Following from Quackwatch May be of Interest

[aka jhon]

..maybe YHVH is His name/ description..
  - Original Message - 
  From: Ode Coyote 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 5:03 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>The Following from Quackwatch May be of Interest


  YAHHH TAKE CONTROL OF THOSE CONTROLLING PEOPLE
  HANG the hangmen for murder!
  ..and so on
  Ken


  At 08:54 AM 8/21/01 -0500, you wrote: 
  

Hi James and all, 

Thats a good one James. 

So lets "abolish" controlling people. 

Abolish means to: do away with wholly, to destroy completely, annihilate, 
to make nonexistent. 

So lets all go out and murder those who would control us, burn the bodies 
and grind the bones to dust. Get all the politicians, councilmen, busybodies at 
the church, cops, preachers, etc. I'm all for it. When do we start!. Should we 
include those that tell us how to make CS, and what to eat, and what to wear, 
and what meds are ok to take (in their view) and those who put up traffic signs 
, and what vaccines to get , etc, on and on.?? :-) 

So much for todays humor, back to the real world. James won't help me 
terminate anyone. Love you man, but you can't have my Bud ! 

Bless you, Bob Lee 


"James Osbourne, Holmes" wrote: 

  People who think they have the right to control the way others live their 
  lives should simply be abolished. 

  James-Osbourne: Holmes 

  -Original Message- 
  From: M. G. Devour [mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com] 
  Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 7:24 AM 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Subject: Re: CS>The Following from Quackwatch May be of Interest 

  > some of the practices like homeopathy, supplements, herbology, 
  > naturopathy and chiropractic should be simply abolished. ... Dr Chot 

  Sure can tell where Dr. Chot is coming from, can we not? I don't know 
  about the rest of them, but supplements and chiropractic have both been 
  of help to me, along with several other "alternative care" things. 

  Hmmmpf. 

  Mike D. 


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CS>milk,,

[aka jhon]

Interesting article,check the date out and then look for newer 
updates.Mad cow,FMD,Johnes diseases, what's next
Subject: Crohns disease and milk - Research 
From: meph 
Date: Sat, 03 Aug 1996 14:38:17 +0100
Here's a snippet from an article I found this week, may be of 
interest to some...

Take from a supplement of a national newspaper dated 28 July 96 :-

That Gut Feeling :

Scientists at St Georges hospital in London are claiming there is a 
link between Crohns disease - a debilitating digestive problem that 
affects more than 40,000 people in the UK - and drinking milk. 
Professor John Hermon-Taylor, a surgeon, and his team have reported 
finding minute traces of an organism known as myco-bacterium 
paratubercolosis in two thirds of the intestinal tissue removed from 
Crohns patients after surgery and although the National Dairy Council 
has disputed such claims on the basis of its own studies, the 
hospital researchers say they have also found the organism in 
supplies of whole, pasteurised milk.

Hermon-Taylor and his colleagues are suggesting mycobacterium, which 
causes Johnes disease in sheep and cattle (a condition similar to 
Crohns disease in humans), is being transferred through food and 
water systems and can sometimes survive the process of 
pasteurisation. The full results of the study will be published in 
September and these may be convincing enough for sufferers to be 
told, for the first time since the condition was originally diagnosed 
in 1932, that scientists have discovered a concrete cause.

Although public awareness of the condition is still limited, 3000 new 
cases are diagnosed every year. Crohns affects both men and women 
equally. The incidence has doubled in the past 20 years.

Crohns disease can affect any part of the digestive tract but is more 
commonly found in the small intestine where it causes inflammation, 
deep ulcers and scarring to the intestinal wall. The main symptoms - 
tiredness, urgent diarrhea and loss of weight - can be controlled by 
drugs but surgery is frequently necessary to remove the damaged or 
narrowed sections of the intestine. There is no known cause, and no 
known cure, for Crohns, although there is evidence of a genetic 
predisposition.

Sisters Sue Middleburgh 44, and Ruth Ardley, 40, have both suffered 
from Crohns disease since their teens. Middleburgh, a financial 
adviser who was first diagnosed at 16, remembers passing out from the 
crippling stomach pain but being told her symptoms were 
psychological "After one operation at the age of 24, I turned to 
acupuncture and for the past 12 years I have coped with the disease 
without further surgery, although there are times when it does get me 
down", she says.

Ardley a part time book-keeper and mother of two, says Crohns affects 
not only her life but her whole family. "Fortunately, I have an 
understanding husband but it is a difficult disease to live with. 
When you need the toilet you have to go straight away and people 
don't understand the urgency". The national association for Crohns 
and colitis (NACC) issues its 24500 members with a can't wait card, 
designed to facilitate quicker access to public lavatories in shops 
and also runs support groups across the country for sufferers. 
Richard Driscoll the NACC director is cautious about the new research 
linking Crohns with milk and says one problem is that no other 
research group has as yet been able to repeat the results reported by 
the group at St Georges hospital.

"Aside from the genetic aspect we believe there may be environmental 
factors that give rise to the disease. There must be something about 
our modern way of living that is causing an increase in sufferers" he 
says. "It may be there is more than one external agent that triggers 
the disease, but the sad fact for sufferers is that, once they have 
it, it is a lifelong condition for which there is no cure"

Researchers at the Royal Free hospital in London have suggested the 
measles virus may be linked to the disease. The hypothesis is that 
measles may cause lasting damage to the blood vessels lining the 
bowel wall, triggering the onset of Crohns in some people.However 
like the milk hypothesis, this research is in its infancy and, 
despite a suggestion that a measles vaccine given to children could 
lead to Crohns in later life, the consensus of medical opinion is 
that the benefits of the vaccine outweigh the unproven risks of a 
link with Crohns.

Driscoll emphasises that there is no link between Crohns and 
irritable bowel syndrome - one does not lead to the other and there 
is in fact, no tissue inflammation with the latter and no obvious 
sign of damage to the intestine.

Another problem facing Crohns sufferers is that it can take up to a 
year to rule out similar conditions and many are sent packing by 
their GP's who mistakenly believe the symptoms to be psychosomatic.

"The best way to describe the condition to non-sufferers is to tell 
them to think of the 

Re: CS>An alternative suggestion (off topic)

[aka jhon]

  Having been raised in the oil patch
the profit on gas to the 'bad'oil companies is 4%,,
that is 4 cents on the dollar for you public schooled..
All the rest is cost of doing business,,,however most is 
your goverments taxes..Remember expresident Bush
added a 5 cent per gal.for three years before he left
office..Why don't you boycott the goverment instead ??


- Original Message - 
From: Dean T. Miller 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 4:00 AM
Subject: Re: CS>An alternative suggestion (off topic)


| On Wed, 2 May 2001 23:04:03 -0400, "spiroflx"
|  wrote:
| 
| >Perhaps you also have come to the conclusion that the current escalation of
| >gas prices is a concerted plan on the part of the oil companies --- a
| >monopolistic power play, pure and simple.
|   
| >Here is the simple and doable idea. For the rest of the year 2001, just
| >don't purchase gasoline from the biggest gasoline company in the world.
| >This company is comprised of two companies --- EXXON and MOBIL. 
| 
| Won't work.
| 
| First off, Exxon and Mobil don't even have stations in many parts of
| the country (in my part of Iowa, for example).
| 
| Second, Exxon/Mobil and other large refiners send their gasoline to
| tank farms which then supply most of the local stations.  Variations
| in gasoline brand are made by adding substances to the gasoline at the
| time the tank truck is filled or when the underground tanks at the
| stations are filled.  
| 
| IOW, unless you know exactly which company fills the tank farms you
| won't know who supplies the gas for your local station.  
| 
| So ... there's no way to boycott just one company.
| 
| -- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF
| 
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CS>magnet,,north or south

[aKa Jhon]

My wife has 'softening & inflammation of  cartilage' of the knee.  Using
MSM, thought of using magnets,,forgot the north/south protocol for repairing
?  Any help,,thanks in advance..


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Re: CS>Whackoo Filter

[aKa Jhon]

IMHO,,as far as Mike being 'a terrible judge'( to say 'Mike is a
very nice person',,
is a leap, perhaps to sugar coat the knife that stabs him,,,)  I will take
what I know about him:
he is always a man of good judgement when it comes to this list,,doesn't
make him 'nice',,just
a  good moderater for this group,In my part of the country, to call  a man
'nice' would be an insult,,
Mike,, keep up the good work,,Arnold,,,you know what you you can do,


"Men prefer mercy because they are guility,, children prefer justice,,,
because they are innocent."

"By the time Americans know who the enemy is, the slaughterhouse gates will
already be shut." EB



  - Original Message -
From: "Arnold Beland" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2000 8:52 AM
Subject: CS>Whackoo Filter


|
| By the way, Mike, I want to thank you for the time and effort you put into
| hosting this list.  You are obviously a very nice person.  You would,
| however, make a terrible judge.
|
| Best Regards to All,
|
| Arnold
|



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Re: CS>Venom effect

[aKa Jhon]

Out Door Life did a three part series on the subject many  years
ago...bottom line zap the wounds with a personal defense zapper,or a spark
plug wire,,stops the poison at once etc..


- Original Message -
From: 
To: 
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 2:23 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Venom effect


| In a message dated 9/1/00 11:02:45 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
| rj...@dialnet.net writes:
|
| <<  had heard before from Mexicans and
|  others that their method for dealing with snake bite is to grab a spark
|  plug wire. On the bite area if possible by way of a remote wire. So >>
|
| Hi Bob,
|  Please Explain this tactic
| Roger Cepelik
|
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CS>Fw: CS>I hate doctors

[aKa Jhon]

- Original Message - 
From: Katie Jay 
To: mr_tracys_cor...@egroups.com ; silver-list@eskimo.com ; 
bowelclea...@egroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2000 1:23 PM
Subject: CS>I hate doctors


DOCTORS' STRIKE IN ISRAEL MAY 
BE GOOD FOR HEALTH
Judy Siegel-Itzkovich, Israel Sun, Jerusalem

"Industrial action by doctors in Israel seems 
to be good for their patients' health. Death 
rates have dropped considerably in most 
of the country since physicians in public
 hospitals implemented a program of sanctions 
three months ago, according to a survey of 
burial societies. . . .

"In the absence of official figures, the 
Jerusalem Post surveyed non-profit 
making Jewish burial societies, which
perform funerals for the vast majority of 
Israelis, to find out whether the industrial 
action was affecting deaths in the country.

"'The number of funerals we have performed 
has fallen drastically,' said Hananya Shahor, 
the veteran director of Jerusalem's Kehilat 
Yerushalayim burial society. 'This month, 
there were only 93 funerals compared with 
153 in May 1999, 133 in the same month
 in 1998, and 139 in May 1997. .
. ."

(Editor's note: This doctors' strike in 
Israel is only the latest in a long string 
of doctor strikes in various countries of 
the world, including the United States. In
every instance of a doctors' strike, death 
rates have fallen dramatically during the
 strike, sometimes by as much as 50%,
only to rise after the strike ended.)

Re: CS>Introduction

[aKa Jhon]

Allah is Arab for YHVH in Hebrew,,Jehovah and Lord in English and whatever
in other tongues..same GOD,,
imho
- Original Message -
From: "Salman al-'Awdah" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2000 8:52 AM
Subject: CS>Introduction


|
| I have been, as you say, "lurking", and have been
| fascinated by the wonderful cures you have been able
| to report.  I have always been skeptical of Western
| medicine and Western doctors.  It is good to be able
| to read about alternatives that work. Unfortunately,
| there seems to be an abundance of letters that discuss
| your God, and if that is what this list is all about,
| I think that other Gods should be given equal time.
|
| Allah is the Arabian Supreme Being, "El" or the Hebrew
| "Eli". He is the Creator God of ancient Arabia who was
| seen as the father and king of the other gods. When
| Muhammad speaks of Allah, there is no god but He.
| Allah is the All-high, the All-glorious Creator and
| Guardian over everything. Allah rewards and punishes,
| He is omniscient, universal and all powerful. In
| essence, it is the submission to the will of Allah
| that makes Islam what it is. There is no intermediary
| with man and Allah, one approaches Allah directly in
| prayer and in the reciting of the Quran.
|
| Thank you, and praise Allah
|
| Salman al-`Awdah
|
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CS>Fw: [RMNEWS] Rare virus linked to deaths in California

[aKa Jhon]

|
| Rare virus linked to deaths in California
|
|  http://news.excite.com/news/r/000803/20/health-virus
|
| Updated 8:31 PM ET August 3, 2000
| By Sarah Tippit
| LOS ANGELES, (Reuters) - California health officials said Thursday they
have
| linked three recent unexplained deaths to a rare virus, normally carried
by
| rodents, that has almost never before infected humans in North America.
|
| The so-called "arenavirus" causes a rare, but often fatal respiratory
| disease, and is transmitted to humans through inhalation of dust
contaminated
| with the urine, feces or saliva of infected rodents.
|
| Variations of the virus are often seen in human populations in Africa and
| South America, scientists said. Arenavirus has also been documented
recently
| in rodents in Southern California.
|
| However never had it been seen in humans anywhere in the United States,
| "except among overseas travelers and laboratory workers exposed
accidentally
| while doing research," California Health Director Diana Bonita said in a
| statement.
|
| The virus was detected through genetic testing in three Southern
California
| women who died in the last 14 months. Among the victims were a 30-year-old
| who died last month in Orange County, a 14-year-old who died in April in
| Alameda County, and a 52-year-old who died in June 1999 in Riverside
County.
|
| Each had been hospitalized with fever and respiratory distress. Two of the
| women also had severe liver disease and bleeding. Initially their cause of
| death was unexplained.
|
| There is no evidence the cases are related, and human infection with
| arenavirus is expected to be uncommon in the United States, health
officials
| said. The 52-year-old woman had had a history of contact with rodents,
| officials said.
|
| The drug ribavirin has been used to treat other arenavirus infections,
health
| officials said. Research is ongoing to find other effective treatments,
they
| said.
|
| In order to avoid the virus, people are encouraged not to touch or feed
wild
| rodents or any wild animals, to properly dispose of and contain trash, to
| avoid camping near rodent droppings, burrows or nests, and to avoid
creating
| dust when cleaning rodent-infested areas by first wetting the areas with
| bleach.
|
| Last month world health officials meeting in Atlanta at the U.S. Centers
for
| Disease Control warned of the threat of emerging diseases -- potentially
| lethal outbreaks triggered by travelers, animals, bioterrorists, or
| unexpected changes in the diseases themselves.
|
| Among other emerging diseases being tracked are Lyme disease, hantavirus,
and
| West Nile virus, which killed seven people and sickened 62 others in New
York
| late last summer.
|
| The West Nile virus, which causes brain inflammation, has been found in
birds
| and mosquitoes in New York, Connecticut and New Jersey. Researchers are
| unsure how it migrated to the Western Hemisphere.
|
|
| RMNews, The Uncensored National Rumor
| http://www.rumormillnews.com
| THE ONLY RUMOR YOU CAN TRUST
|



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Re: CS and HIV

[aka Jhon]

  ...cough up the info..
  - Original Message -
  From: James Allison
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2000 9:42 AM
  Subject: Re: CS and HIV


  You said...
  Some of the tests we have been running at a university show a new and
better
  protocol for using CS.  We would be glad to share this information with
you.

  And I say...
  Only him? ;)

  Yours in health,
  James Allison

CS>question for the list,,

[aka Jhon]

   I remember someone mentioning Microhydrin on the list..how is it good,and
where can it be bought in bulk??
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Re: CS>Testers

[aka Jhon]

 Were we being a 'little commercial '??

 ,,when Mike wrote..
.(.some snipping first,,)
  Lastly, as for Stephen's remarks about Trem's "marketing" efforts, 
  I'm sure Trem won't mind at all if we remind folks that they can also 
  get their PWT or TDS-1 meters at the Hanna Instruments site:

  snip 

Re: CS>PWT

[aka Jhon]

   ..then leave the list,..
I have learned a to of info from these 'commercial'
discussions,,I'm smart enough to know what I can read,and what is not for
my use..brotherget a life..

  ...unrepentive self-rightousness, is the only
  sin,that in this lifetime,and in the one
  to come, will not be forgiven..
  - From: Stephen Quinto
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2000 5:31 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>PWT


  Trem, and other interested listers,

  I may be sticking my "two cents" in here a bit obtusely but I'm sure I'm
not
  alone in thinking that this list-serve is not intended to be a marketplace
  for products or services, or a place for commercial discussions

  Stephen

  - Original Message -
  From: Trem Williams 
  To: 
  Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2000 3:17 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>PWT


  > Hello Mary,
  >
  > Not really.  How much does it cost you and your husband to go out to eat
  at
  > a nice restaurant.  $50 doesn't seem high when you compare other costs
in
  > today's world.  Of course you can just accept what you have as CS and
let
  it
  > go at that.  Many folks do.  I'm sure it will probably work but for
those
  > who want to be assured of getting some idea of what they have from batch
  to
  > batch, the PWT is probably the best and least expensive choice.
  >
  > Trem
  > www.silvergen.com
  > Constant Current Colloid Generators
  >
  >
  > - Original Message -
  > From: 
  > To: 
  > Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2000 11:09 AM
  > Subject: CS>PWT
  >
  >
  > >
  > > you wrote:
  > >  The PWT is the best low cost solution to making reliable CS
  > > from one batch to the next and confirming the results.
  > >
  > > Hi, I went to your site and the PWT is around $50, I don't consider
that
  > low
  > > cost is there something else that I could use to register PPM?
  > > Thanks,
  > > Regards,Mary
  > >
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Re: CS> PPM

[aka Jhon]

   I must be really dense,,I have read the info from Silvergen, and this
list,,and what I gather is:
   ...the Hanna PWT is right on on its reading,,also it is 45% too high..
  ,,how can it be both???

- Original Message -
From: Trem Williams 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2000 6:41 PM
Subject: Re: CS> PPM


| Hello Robert,
|
| I agree very closely with your information.  We market the Hanna PWT and
| tell our customers the meter reads correctly on samples we have had
analyzed
| by the atomic absorption method but if they want to follow the information
| given by Hanna, to multiply the reading by .55 to get their reading.  In
any
| case, it's right on or 45% high.  I really don't see this as a critical
| problem since we're speaking only of a few parts per million.  This is
| briefly covered on our PPM page at our web site.  We do not mention the
55%
| effect since we are content to accept the AA test as being accurate.
| However we do point this anomaly out on the instruction sheet we provide
| with the PWT.
|
| What is important is the fact a person can tell from batch to batch what
| they have made.  The PWT is the best low cost solution to making reliable
CS
| from one batch to the next and confirming the results.  The TDS-1 is
| unacceptable for measuring PPM.
|
| Trem
| www.silvergen.com
| Constant Current Colloid Generators
|
|
| - Original Message -
| From: Robert Dohr 
| To: 
| Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2000 3:06 PM
| Subject: Re: CS> PPM
|
|
| > Greetings Seekers;
| > Ivan, our numbers are similar (.59 to .57) but I think you may have them
| > backwards. The instructions from Hanna and what my lab results confirmed
| was
| > .59PPM/us. or take the reading in us/cm times .59 to get PPM. In my case
| > 25.5us/cm = 15 PPM. per lab test. Also the us/cm will drop with time for
| the
| > first 10-12 hrs, not rise. This appears to be due to the CS dispersing
| > throughout the DW. Immediately after making a batch the CS is
concentrated
| > around the ion path between the electrodes. A reading taken at this time
| will
| > be high and erratic. After sitting overnite the reading will be lower
but
| > stabile. After this initial dispersion the reading should not change
| futher. I
| > have CS that is now several months old that still reads within 1 us/cm
of
| when
| > it was made. As for accuracy my PWT measures in .1us/cm up to 99.9us/cm.
I
| > calibrate it using a solution from Hanna that measures 84us. It comes in
| small
| > pouches that you tear open and insert the meter. Use once and throw
away.
| > NAMASTE'
| > Beldohr
| >
| > 
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|

Re: CS>Welcome to the 21st century!!! NOT

[aka Jhon]

- Original Message -
From: Marsha Hallett 
To: 
Sent: Friday, December 31, 1999 3:15 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Welcome to the 21st century!!! NOT


> Boy, the world is full of idiots! The new century and millennium begin on
1
> Jan 2001! This is the start of the final year of the twentieth century. I
> can`t get over all the blather and to-do...
>  Actually, the year 2000 was in 1996, as the Lord, IMHO, was born in 4 BC.
> The present calendar didn`t even begin until the third century, and by
then
> no one knew exactly when the Good Lord was born!! From a modern prophet I
> know He was born on 6 April of 4 BC, died on 4 April of 29 AD, and
> resurrected on 6 April of 29 BC.
> Just for interest...
> Have a happy (and very healthy) new year, all!
> Marsha
>
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Re: CS>Welcome to the 21st century!!!

[aka Jhon]

It ain't over yet,,(and I'm not distrought..)


"By the time Americans know who the enemy is, the slaughterhouse gates will
already be shut." EB


- Original Message - 
From: D G 
To: 
Sent: Friday, December 31, 1999 8:03 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Welcome to the 21st century!!!


> heh heh   i bet there is a lot of distraught whacko doomsayers
> there.
> 
> Dennis
> 
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Re: CS>TDS

[aka Jhon]

   Where do you get pure water from, if this is true???

- Original Message -
From: James Osbourne, Holmes 
To: 
Sent: Monday, November 29, 1999 3:53 PM
Subject: RE: CS>TDS


> The TDS meter measures conductivity of the water.  It is calibrated with
> ---usually NaCl.   Different solutes have different conductivity, but it
is
> usually close enough.  If you deal in mS you eliminate that variation.
>
> What I as pointing out is that it  is unlikely that home or commercial RO
> water is pure enough i.e., low enough conductivity for CS generation.
>
> One local commercial RO water I measured was 4.+ PPM.   Typically the
> rejection rates are about 95%.   My incoming water is 240 PPM, so do the
> math.  Same for your water.
>
> James Osbourne Holmes
> a...@trail.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: D G [SMTP:djg5...@webtv.net]
> Sent: Monday, November 29, 1999 12:45 PM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: RE: CS>TDS
>
>  << Message: RE: CS>TDS >> but i thought the the TDS meter was to test the
> purity of their system's
> water for cs production?!
> h
>
> Dennis
>
> 51/50
> 24/7
>
>
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Re: CS>Using CS in your cat bath

[aka Jhon]

> Hello.
> I do have cats, two in fact. I just don't find this kind of humor amusing.
> No problem, there is the delete button.
> As this is the CS forum, I hope we are not going to evolve into another
> stupid forum where people make dumb jokes and rant and rave about
> meaningless subjects???

,,,like cats???


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Re: CS>Re: [CS kill anthrax]

[aka Jhon]

- Original Message -
From: James Osbourne, Holmes 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 1999 7:56 PM
Subject: RE: CS>Re: [CS kill anthrax]


> Remember the flap about the "terrorist" Larry Wayne Harris, who was busted
> by the FBI in AZ for having anthrax in his possession?
>
> He is a registered professional microbiologist and was testing both CS and
> the Rife generator for efficacy against anthrax.  I think he said it
works,
> but he recommends that you be on a maintenance dose before
> exposure/inoculation.
>
> Somewhere there is a book he published about  just plain folks dealing
with
> biowar.  It was advertised in "AnitShyster", which has a web site.
>
> James Osbourne Holmes
> a...@trail.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Roman [SMTP:r_ro...@usa.net]
> Sent: Thursday, October 21, 1999 12:26 PM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: CS>Re: [CS kill anthrax]
>
> Does it really kill anthrax? Does anybody know for sure? If so, what
should
> be
> the regimen? And how strong should CS be?
>
> Roman
>
>
> Marshall Dudley  wrote:
> > Discussing the biological attack on New York this news site states:
> >
> > One colloidal silver generator can make enough silver for dozens of
> > families. And
> >  colloidal silver, for those of you who don't know, kills anthrax.
> >
> > http://www.y2knewswire.com/19991018.asp
> >
> > If you want it, grab it, they update every day or two and then articles
> > cannot be retreived unless you subscribe to their service.
> >
> > marshall
> >
> >
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Re: CS>Re: [CS kill anthrax]

[aka Jhon]

OOP's  sorry,wrong button..
- Original Message - 
From: James Osbourne, Holmes 


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Re: CS>Re: question

[aka Jhon]

Thank you Vikki,,well spoken,, and true..


- Original Message - 
From: Victoria Welch 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 1999 1:11 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Re: question


> Daniel and Karen Croom wrote:
>  
> > (The following is off-topic-nothing about silver- just a response)
> 
snip..etc..


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Re: CS>Re: question

[aka Jhon]

  I can tolerate a black,yellow,brown or White racist much better than
someone who degrades their ancestors by denying who or what they are.

"I prefer the company of peasants because they have not been
educated sufficiently to reason incorrectly."

- Original Message -----

> aka Jhon wrote:
> >
> > It is error alone which needs the support of government.
> > Truth can stand by itself.
> >
> >   - Thomas Jefferson,
> >
> > "By the time Americans know who the enemy is, the slaughterhouse gates
will
> > already be shut." EB
> >
> > "if he was really not one of the best-intentioned men(woman?) in the
world,
> > he might be a very dangerous one.
> >
> > "the Aryans of ancient India stated that, "The loss of memory is root of
> > evil."
> >
> > (save me from people with 'good' intentions, who do not know history.)
> >
> > > On Mon, 20 Sep 1999 09:57:00 -0500, "Daniel and Karen Croom"
> > >  wrote:
> > >
> > > > I thought that I was colour-blind until I went to my husband
recently
> > and
> > > >confessed that I thought I might be prejudiced.  I was serious, but
he
> > > >started laughing.  He knew that I was talking about the white race
and we
> > > >have white skin.  Well, I got over that but I still feel like asking
> > > >forgiveness from people of other races for all of the sins of the
past.
> > And
> > > >some of it continues today.  I would like our government to have a
public
> > > >apology to the Native Americans.
> > >
> > > Isn't that something!!!
> > > Now your supposed to feel GUILTY just for being who you are.
> > > Strange the way the mind can work.
> > > Chuck
>
> The object is to learn from history, not wallow in it...
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Re: CS>Re: question

[aka Jhon]

It is error alone which needs the support of government.
Truth can stand by itself.

  - Thomas Jefferson,

"By the time Americans know who the enemy is, the slaughterhouse gates will
already be shut." EB

"if he was really not one of the best-intentioned men(woman?) in the world,
he might be a very dangerous one.

"the Aryans of ancient India stated that, "The loss of memory is root of
evil."

(save me from people with 'good' intentions, who do not know history.)






> On Mon, 20 Sep 1999 09:57:00 -0500, "Daniel and Karen Croom"
>  wrote:
>
> > I thought that I was colour-blind until I went to my husband recently
and
> >confessed that I thought I might be prejudiced.  I was serious, but he
> >started laughing.  He knew that I was talking about the white race and we
> >have white skin.  Well, I got over that but I still feel like asking
> >forgiveness from people of other races for all of the sins of the past.
And
> >some of it continues today.  I would like our government to have a public
> >apology to the Native Americans.
>
> Isn't that something!!!
> Now your supposed to feel GUILTY just for being who you are.
> Strange the way the mind can work.
> Chuck
> "Try to be the kind of person your dog thinks you are"
> - Anonymous
>
>
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Re: CS>oops!

[aka Jhon]

 No need to beg,,
,,btw,do they track you and your web sites that you go to??
  - Original Message -
  From: James Allison
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Monday, August 16, 1999 5:08 PM
  Subject: CS>oops!


  I just sent out a mass email to all the people listed in my "friends"
folder.  What I failed to realize is that since I have made some new friends
on this silver list, the email may have went to this list as well.  It is
totally off topic and I beg for forgiveness in advance should it show up.


  Yours in health,
  James Allison

Re: CS>Skin Rash

[aka Jhon]

hm-mm,,
  - Original Message -
  From: Ricky Cox
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Sunday, August 15, 1999 5:49 PM
  Subject: CS>Skin Rash


  Sorry, what I forgot to mention is that he drinks about 20-30 cups of
coffee per day with milk and 3tsp sugar - plus smokes about a pack a day.

  Doctors did suggest that it could be a dairy allergy - is this possible|?

  Many thanks again

Re: CS>antthrax shots

[aka Jhon]

oops,,
sorry,wrong button was hit..
  - Original Message - 
  From: aka Jhon 
  To: mailto:Undisclosed-Recipient:@mx1.eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 1999 9:49 PM
  Subject: CS>antthrax shots


  DEFENSE DEPARTMENT FACES HUGE PROBLEM OVER ANTHRAX VACCINATIONS
  ~

CS>antthrax shots

[aka Jhon]

DEFENSE DEPARTMENT FACES HUGE PROBLEM OVER ANTHRAX VACCINATIONS
~
Edited by Bill Rogers
Email: rog...@sftt.org

The controversy over the safety of anthrax vaccinations ordered by the
Defense Department for all service members is heating up as more and more
people either refuse to take their shots or quit the service. Anthrax is
considered a major biological warfare threat. So far about 330,000 of the
2,500,000 people in uniform have received at least the first of six shots.
But anthrax shots are becoming a serious morale and readiness problem, to
say nothing of a health problem.

CBS News interviewed more than 100 Air Force Reserve and Air National Guard
pilots and reported on July 26 so many pilots are quitting over this issue
that there are "huge holes in some military air units." Key units stand to
lose up to half their pilots, and at just five bases more than 100 reserve
pilots quit this year, CBS said.

"The squadron is unable to do its peacetime and wartime mission, and this
directly impacts the nation's readiness," Maj. Ramona Savoie declared. She
is one who quit. The recent campaign in the Balkans demonstrates the need
for Reserve and Guard forces whenever the Air Force makes any substantial
effort, so the loss of many experienced pilots will have a serious impact on
readiness of U.S. forces.

The Defense Department insists that the vaccine is safe and effective and
that the program is going smoothly, but memos obtained by CBS tell a
different story. One squadron commander wrote, "Due to the controversy
regarding the shots, compliance has been very low." Another commander
acknowledged that "We are losing a lot of experience."

Many Guard and Reserve pilots also fly for the airlines, and some have quit
for fear that side effects of the shots would put their civilian flying
career at risk -- or their passengers. "Would you want your pilot to have
any problem with remembering, and tremors, seizures? This is all stuff
that's attributed to the vaccine," Mike Angerole said. He flies for
Southwest Airlines and is among those quitting the Air Guard.

Two bills have just been introduced in Congress that would address concerns
about the anthrax vaccinations. On July 19, Rep. Benjamin Gilman, New York
Republican, introduced H.R. 2548, which would suspend the vaccination
program until the vaccine is determined to be safe and effective and to
provide for a study by the National Institutes of Health. The other, H.R.
2543, introduced by Rep. Walter Jones, a North Carolina Republican, would
make the shots voluntary.

Gilman's bill directs the National Institutes of Health to see that an
independent study is done to determine the types and severity of adverse
reactions and long-term health implications. The study would also determine
the effectiveness of the vaccine in protecting humans against all strains of
anthrax pathogens that U.S. military personnel are likely to encounter.

The Defense Department opposes requests to make the shots voluntary, is not
granting exceptions to the requirement to take shots, and, as it finds
itself getting deeper into this controversy, seems to be hardening its
position. Defense Secretary William Cohen recently wrote in a letter to Army
Times, "Just as soldiers must wear helmets, commanders must know all their
troops are vaccinated against anthrax."

And the Pentagon says the shots will continue no matter how many pilots
quit. It launched a campaign to convince the troops that the vaccine is
safe, but Mark Zaid, a Washington attorney who has represented at least two
dozen service members who have refused the shots, said the education effort
was handled poorly and backfired on DOD. He believes DOD is so embarrassed
about the matter that it won't back away and thereby admit to mistakes.
"They'll go kicking and screaming until the last possible second" when they
are forced to change the vaccination policy, he said.

Zaid, who had been working on Gulf War Syndrome issues, started getting
calls right after the shots started in March 1998. He said at first people
were usually just given a general discharge, then occasionally an
other-than-honorable discharge, and now more frequently a court martial. The
Marine Corps has been giving courts martial more than the other services. In
the active duty forces, it is mostly lower ranking enlisted people who
refuse, while in the reserve forces, captains, majors and colonels are
refusing and quitting. He noted that emergency-essential civilians in DOD
must also take the shots, and half a dozen senior civilians in the Military
Sealift Command have been fired.

What should service members do? "Tough decision. I don't know," Zaid
answered. "I have never given anybody advice about what they should do. I
always tell them they need to talk it over with family and friends. If you
decide to refuse it, come back to me and I will do what I can to help.

"The only thing I have given as far as advice was 

Re: CS>Sharing

[aka Jhon]

Ditto
I usually agree with Tai Pan,,however I must agree with Jim on this one..
Maybe because one of the greatest weapons (etc.) inventor, is barely making
a living,
while his 'shared' info is making others millions..
my friend Max Atchisson..a living legend,,and unsung hero of the 'Gun
Brotherhood'..


- Original Message -
From: Jim 
To: 
Cc: 
Sent: Sunday, August 01, 1999 5:44 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Sharing


> I have to respectfully disagree with the "Sharing" post, and have to
express
etc,,


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Re: CS>About our Silver List...(Please Read) OT respionse

[aka Jhon]

Do not read this,,it is private..

"I prefer the company of peasants because they have not been
educated sufficiently to reason incorrectly."



- Original Message -
From: K Robinson 
To: 
Sent: Friday, July 30, 1999 10:48 AM
Subject: RE: CS>About our Silver List...(Please Read) OT respionse


> This is just the sort of off topic meandering that is clogging the list.
> This type of message should be private.
>
> At 09:18 PM 7/29/99 -0600, you wrote:
> >Revolution is the violent overthrow of government.  Your definition of
> >anarchy is government's definition.
> >
> >Webster:
> >
> >Main Entry: an.ar.chism
> >Pronunciation: 'a-n&r-"ki-z&m, -"nar-
> >Function: noun
> >Date: 1642
> >1 : a political theory holding all forms of governmental authority to be
> >unnecessary and undesirable and advocating a society based on voluntary
> >cooperation and free association of individuals and groups
> >
> >
> >James Osbourne, Holmes
> >
> >a...@trail.com
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: nat2...@aol.com [SMTP:nat2...@aol.com]
> >Sent: Thursday, July 29, 1999 8:20 PM
> >To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> >Subject: Re: CS>About our Silver List...(Please Read) OT respionse
> >
> >Anarchy is the violent overthrow of one's govt.
> >
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CS>anarchy

[aka Jhon]

thanks James,, 

"If voting could change anything, it would be illegal"


From: James Osbourne, Holmes 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 1999 11:18 PM
Subject: RE: CS>About our Silver List...(Please Read) OT respionse


> Revolution is the violent overthrow of government.  Your definition of 
> anarchy is government's definition.
> 
> Webster:
> 
> Main Entry: an.ar.chism
> Pronunciation: 'a-n&r-"ki-z&m, -"nar-
> Function: noun
> Date: 1642
> 1 : a political theory holding all forms of governmental authority to be 
> unnecessary and undesirable and advocating a society based on voluntary 
> cooperation and free association of individuals and groups
> 
> 
> James Osbourne, Holmes
> 
> a...@trail.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: nat2...@aol.com [SMTP:nat2...@aol.com]
> Sent: Thursday, July 29, 1999 8:20 PM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>About our Silver List...(Please Read) OT respionse
> 
> Anarchy is the violent overthrow of one's govt.
> 
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Re: CS>Cancer

[aka Jhon]

How about Goldfarb and Rubenstein instead of Greed and Heartless?

  (Stereo types usually have truth behind them..imho)

- Original Message - 
From: M. G. Devour 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 1999 3:51 AM
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Re: CS>Colloidal gold

[aka Jhon]

Can Colloidal gold  be made as C/S is made??



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Re: CS>c/s verses tonsillitis,,,

[aka Jhon]

Thanks for the replays on this matter.Will increase dosage,and cut out milk
products,
I had forgotten about the dairy problem..
 Will let you know how it goes..
  aka Jhon wrote:

Hi gang,,got an 18 daughter with enlarged,inflamed tonsils w/ pus
pockets.She has been taking around one ounce of silver a day for
months,,howevershe has a continuing problem.I believe that that is not
enough,,but she wants tohear it from the 'list' before she increases her
dosage.What to do...Thanks in advance...(cs'ers are the best list going)

CS>c/s verses tonsillitis,,,

[aka Jhon]

  Hi gang,,got an 18 daughter with enlarged,inflamed tonsils w/ pus pockets.
She has been taking around one ounce of silver a day for months,,however
she has a continuing problem.I believe that that is not enough,,but she
wants to
hear it from the 'list' before she increases her dosage.
What to do...
Thanks in advance...(cs'ers are the best list going)

Re: CS>Fwd: RE: CS>When to Go Beyond Science?

[aka Jhon]

you reap what you sow,, 
pretty simple to me,,has nothing to do with wishing..


- Original Message - 
From: Arthur D. Saftlas 
To: 
Sent: Friday, May 21, 1999 3:36 PM
Subject: CS>Fwd: RE: CS>When to Go Beyond Science?


> I know what you mean, but be careful of your own by wishing suffering on
> others. In my understanding these people are already suffering, because
> they are stuck in their righteousness minds.
> 
> > I hope the law of Karma really works.
> >
> >James Osbourne, Holmes
> 
> Awakening becomes a priority, when
> one realizes that one has been asleep.
> 
> 
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Re: CS>Gratuitous Gun Control Comments

[aka Jhon]

Governments kill millions,,,
when they give up their guns,
I'll think about giving up mine,,

- Original Message -
From: Harvey Flatbush 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 1999 5:44 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Gratuitous Gun Control Comments


> At 03:18 PM 5/18/99 -0400, you wrote:
> >In a message dated 5/18/99 1:48:18 PM Central Daylight Time,
mo...@inow.com
> >writes:
> >
> >> In Los Gatos, CA  over the weekend, two people were slaugtered with
knives.
> >>
> >>  Do we need, therefore, to outlaw knives? Just wondering
> >>
> >How about the mother that strangled her own child with an electrical
cord?
> >Do we outlaw all electrical cords too?
>
> There are more deaths every year caused by automobiles than anything else.
> Car bombs, suicides,  and just plain accidents.  Are horse and buggy days
> just around the corner if they take our cars away.  Probably not. someone
> would probably get kicked in the head by a horse and killed so the farmer
> that sold them the horse would end up being sued.
>
> Harvey
>
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Re: CS>Peter...

[aka Jhon]

"Humankind cannot bear very much reality." 
T.S. Eliot 


dittos from me ,,Mike
great job,,the best..

- Original Message - 
Subject: CS>Peter...


> MIke,
> Good goingit is always difficult to make such decisions, but
> that is your job as moderatorand a fine job you are doing!!!
> Paula in N Ga
> paul...@juno.com
> 
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Re: CS>Gratuitous Gun Control Comments

[aka Jhon]

 Except for the goverment of course,when it sends you to kill ,,,for
whatever reasons..

>
>
>
> I agree wholeheartedly. Guns are for killing, and as such are worthless in
> the creation of a society where Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness
> are the goals. The latter shouldn`t include the right to go shoot someone
> you don`t like, or don`t even know, all too often.
> Marsha
>
>



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Re: CS>Re: Single-Blind Tests

[aka Jhon]

"Liberty is rendered even more precious
by the recollection of servitude."

 -- Cicero


- Original Message -
From: 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 1999 1:12 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Re: Single-Blind Tests


> In a message dated 5/17/99 8:02:50 PM EST, maj.yo...@ellijay.com writes:
>
> << "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional
>  maturity."
>   -- Sigmund Freud, General Introduction to Psychoanlysis (1952) >>
>
> 1)  you got a book and a page number for that reference?
>
> 2)  what handguns was he talking about?  please list make, model and
> serial number.
>
> 3)  define retarded as used in this quote and please site the
dictionary
> publisher and year.
>
> 4)  how are you classifying Freud?  As a scientist?  What were his
> credentials?
>
> 5)  just kidding   teehehehe
>
> Samm
>
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Re: CS>the so-called salt test

[aka Jhon]

Tried the test,,then I remembered that the 'store' bought
salt was cloudy in all water period. So that test was wrong.
However I did not test it with plain ground rock salt,which is
clear in water solution..
  - Original Message -
  From: Keith Courtenay
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Monday, May 17, 1999 10:20 PM
  Subject: CS>the so-called salt test


  I am replying to the so-called salt test that was put out.
  in 1998 I had this colloidal silver analysed by the Queensland
overnment( Australia) scientific services, the report was as follows:
silver(mg/L) 18.9/ pH 7.9 .about average; a copy of this document is
available to all.

  This Company advertised the 'so called' Salt Test. this smacks of
scaremonger tactics for the following reason: They advise you add one
teaspoon of ordinary table salt to 25 mL of colloidal silver. if the
solution turns milky they say that silver salt or protein has been added and
the silver is no good. You will find that most salt has the additive
anti-caking agent 554. The Australian Commonwealth Department of Health
advise in their book ' Additive Code Breaker' 554 is Aluminium sodium
silicate also known as analcite natrolite, it is used in Beverage whitener,
drink machines, dried milk, and table salt and will turn any clear liquid a
whitish colour. This company also state that there silver is in De- ionised
water. Silver will not stay in suspension in Deionised water, it will settle
to the bottom of the bottle

  csilver

Re: CS>Re: Single-Blind Tests

[aka Jhon]

"A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional
maturity."
 -- Sigmund Freud, General Introduction to Psychoanlysis (1952)


- Original Message -----
From: aka Jhon 
To: 
Sent: Monday, May 17, 1999 8:56 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Re: Single-Blind Tests


> "Of all the tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its
> victims may be the most oppressive.  It may be better to live
> under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies.
> The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may
> at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good
> will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of
> their consciences."  -- C.S. Lewis
>
> "By the time Americans know who the enemy is, the slaughterhouse gates
will
> already be shut." EB
>
> the Aryans of
> ancient India stated that, "The loss of memory is root of evil."
>
> Be careful how you judge, we who have guns,,,we usually are
> given respect,,and are respectful,,especially when times are bad..
> ..and the bad times are coming,,look over your shoulder.
>
>
> "To ensure peace, security, and happiness, the rifle and pistol
> are equally indispensable. The very atmosphere of firearms
> anywhere and everywhere restrains evil interference. They
> deserve a place of honor with all that is good.
>
>
> -- George Washington
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Subject: Re: CS>Re: Single-Blind Tests
>
> > as 'treatment'. (But then I am not in the USA where kids seem to
regularly
> shoot up schools because
> > they all have free access to handguns! My kids here in australia have
> never even seen a real
> > handgun or rifle. In Hong Kong the very possession of a bullet can send
> you to jail. So I would not
> > worry about not giving them CS for a while.)
> >
>
>
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