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Hi Mike, I personally see no problem with eskimo at all. The few glitches there have been are IMO completely acceptable and indeed, I didn't even notice them! I am very laid back about these things and it never bothers me if there are slight hiccups. Far, far too much more in this world to worry about little things like that. Thanks for all your endeavours on our behalf. dee On 28 Aug 2010, at 13:05, M. G. Devour wrote: Hi folks! First off, I hope David has been able to get into the web site and see the change... It's working as far as I know, David. The problem you had looks like it may have just been a transient. Carol and others, I REALLY do understand the appeal of Yahoo or Google groups as a platform for a forum like this, and I will continue to consider them going forward, as a fallback if nothing else. My most urgent reason for never going to one of those options before now was a desire to never place us at the mercy of someone else's opinion of whether our group deserved to exist, and, in the extreme case, to not be one of the countless thousands of groups that would instantly disappear if Somebody made a phone call and said, shut it all down... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hi Mike - I too have no problem with eskimo. I imagine you are the one with most of the headaches. And I much appreciate your not taking the easy route. Important information, including whole lists, not just certain posts or threads, can just disappear, without notice, when the big group folks decide something is not appropriate, sometimes because some federal protective folks are unhappy with alternative health methods, and needle yahoo (or google or...) into compliance with their stance. I know you're not just paranoid about this one - I've experienced it. Sara Hi Mike, I personally see no problem with eskimo at all. The few glitches there have been are IMO completely acceptable and indeed, I didn't even notice them! I am very laid back about these things and it never bothers me if there are slight hiccups. Far, far too much more in this world to worry about little things like that. Thanks for all your endeavours on our behalf. dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Mike---You ROCK !!! I am so thankful for this site the people on it !! Thank You for what you are doing !!! Lois
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Mike, I cannot tell you how much this site has healed me. This site has given me life, I thank you for all the pain you go through keeping this site up. Thanks a million!! Mary From: zzekel...@aol.com zzekel...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, August 29, 2010 6:43:12 AM Subject: Re: CS[List Owner]Archive listing on web site...Mike Mike---You ROCK !!! I am so thankful for this site the people on it !! Thank You for what you are doing !!! Lois
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Awesome Mary and Lois. Wow, Mary!! I too have benefited greatly by new friendships and knowledge of CS as well as multiple other avenues never explored till coming here. Mike is rocking it big here. I am grateful in what he has done and continuing to do. With his great leadership there are many trailing behind him--one happy family. Carol From: mborg...@att.net mborg...@att.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, August 29, 2010 8:07:46 AM Subject: Re: CS[List Owner]Archive listing on web site...Mike Mike, I cannot tell you how much this site has healed me. This site has given me life, I thank you for all the pain you go through keeping this site up. Thanks a million!! Mary From: zzekel...@aol.com zzekel...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, August 29, 2010 6:43:12 AM Subject: Re: CS[List Owner]Archive listing on web site...Mike Mike---You ROCK !!! I am so thankful for this site the people on it !! Thank You for what you are doing !!! Lois
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The search capabilities of the current archive are substantially better than those on Yahoo. We would not like searching on the Yahoo archives. But as far as eskimo.com is concerned, if we ditch them I don't think anyone would be sorry... Dan On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 12:09 PM, Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.com wrote: Just to say that I am happy with the list as is. I don't use the digest so I can't speak to any difficulties with it. I like the archives better than the yahoo groups. It would be nice to have file storage even if it only provided a temporary storage to share items that cannot be linked to. If eskimo goes down I don't mind. I know it will be only temporary. BTW, I REALLY appreciate the archives now that we have them. People using the digest might find them handy too. You can even reply to them since the reply address is always silver-l...@eskimo.com. - Steve N - Original Message - From: M. G. Devour [mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com] Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2010 07:00 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: EXTERNAL:Re: CS[List Owner]Archive listing on web site... Hi folks! First off, I hope David has been able to get into the web site and see the change... It's working as far as I know, David. The problem you had looks like it may have just been a transient. Carol and others, I REALLY do understand the appeal of Yahoo or Google groups as a platform for a forum like this, and I will continue to consider them going forward, as a fallback if nothing else. My most urgent reason for never going to one of those options before now was a desire to never place us at the mercy of someone else's opinion of whether our group deserved to exist, and, in the extreme case, to not be one of the countless thousands of groups that would instantly disappear if Somebody made a phone call and said, shut it all down... So, call me paranoid if you'd like, but that resolve is the main reason we've continued to stumble along in this less-than-ideal state, trapped between my desires for security and control, and my inability thus far to implement one of the many superior options that are possible. Hope springs eternal that as my health and mental agility continue to improve, I will succeed in finding or building us a new home that will be more to everyone's liking, mine included. Meanwhile, I pray you will forgive me for my admitted shortcomings (to accompany my acknowledged strengths, just so y'all don't have to say it! grin) and continue to be patient with the clunky interface. You all keep amazing me with your knowledge, generosity, cooperation, and the timeliness of your suggestions! I can't count how often I've seen the answer swing by in passing, just as I'd begun to research a particular question! Amazing! smile If anybody has a trustworthy, high-end web developer in their pocket, willing to work for free or very near to it, y'all let me know, okay? Peace, Mike D. silver-list curator and antiquarian... [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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I just had a friend have her email addresses stolen and I suspect it was through Yahoo groups as they sent out an email to the list saying she was stranded and asking for money to be wired to England! Over my tenure with them Yahoo has had a lot of problems including going down and losing all the archives... PT - Original Message - From: Craig Chamberlin craigs...@craigcchamberlin.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2010 1:57 AM Subject: Re: CS[List Owner]Archive listing on web site... With all due respect, you don't understand the reasons for the list being the way it is. Mike D hasn't made this choice lightly, and I for one stand firmly behind the decision. Just one reason alone is enough: He (the list owner) has been adamant about no one being able to mine email addresses and this solution provides that. He will state this more elegantly than I, but what you don't know can hurt you...and it would seem you don't understand many of the reasons *not* to use yahoogroups. Craig carolG wrote: I wish our great list owner, Mike D., would consider yahoogroups (also called egroups.com). So simple to hunt for info. and I could be reading from that NEW site vs. getting digest or single mail. Not sure if I have that option for eskimo!! I know list owner is not crazy, but may be perhaps stubborn or doesn't know how to open a yahoo account. Mike, I'm not super geeky but I am glad to help you as best I can. I bet we have geeks here that know a lot. I propose keep archives where it is presently, close off archives and open same list with same name at Yahoo from here forward. How about it? Thanks list owner! -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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I am amazed by people even beginning to complain about anything about this group. The incredible knowledge given out freely here is priceless. If you don't like the way it is sent outjust go join a different group. Deb From: Craig Chamberlin craigs...@craigcchamberlin.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sat, August 28, 2010 1:57:13 AM Subject: Re: CS[List Owner]Archive listing on web site... With all due respect, you don't understand the reasons for the list being the way it is. Mike D hasn't made this choice lightly, and I for one stand firmly behind the decision. Just one reason alone is enough: He (the list owner) has been adamant about no one being able to mine email addresses and this solution provides that. He will state this more elegantly than I, but what you don't know can hurt you...and it would seem you don't understand many of the reasons *not* to use yahoogroups. Craig carolG wrote: I wish our great list owner, Mike D., would consider yahoogroups (also called egroups.com). So simple to hunt for info. and I could be reading from that NEW site vs. getting digest or single mail. Not sure if I have that option for eskimo!! I know list owner is not crazy, but may be perhaps stubborn or doesn't know how to open a yahoo account. Mike, I'm not super geeky but I am glad to help you as best I can. I bet we have geeks here that know a lot. I propose keep archives where it is presently, close off archives and open same list with same name at Yahoo from here forward. How about it? Thanks list owner! -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Does Eskimo. com snoop on you or track you around as Yahoo does? Regards hg Jane MacRoss wrote: Seconded! Jane http://www.eamega.com/HighFieldHealth ~The Highest Field of Energy Healing you now!~ - Original Message - *From:* carolG mailto:cgiam...@yahoo.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Saturday, August 28, 2010 2:21 PM *Subject:* Re: CS[List Owner]Archive listing on web site... I wish our great list owner, Mike D., would consider yahoogroups (also called egroups.com). So simple to hunt for info. and I could be reading from that NEW site vs. getting digest or single mail. Not sure if I have that option for eskimo!! I know list owner is not crazy, but may be perhaps stubborn or doesn't know how to open a yahoo account. Mike, I'm not super geeky but I am glad to help you as best I can. I bet we have geeks here that know a lot. I propose keep archives where it is presently, close off archives and open same list with same name at Yahoo from here forward. How about it? Thanks list owner! Carol *From:* M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Fri, August 27, 2010 3:11:14 PM *Subject:* CS[List Owner]Archive listing on web site... David wrote: Lots of questions here! I guess the only archives to speak of are the actual emails? I guess this group is intentionally low key. LOL! No, David, the list owner is just lazy! I've *finally* updated the Archive page on the web site to reflect the existence of the *NEW* archives... grin Should eliminate this kind of confusion in the future! Peace, Mike D. List owner dude... [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com ] [Speaking only for myself... ] No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.441 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3097 - Release Date: 08/27/10 06:34:00
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Mike, Lazy? I doubt that... Busy? I believe that... Regardless.Here's your tributesung to the melody of the Billy Joel tune.. .Don't go changin'. to try and please us...~We love you just the way you are~.. Peter (nuthin' like a little suckin' up to the bossman) Have a great day Mike! Y'er doin' a great job! - Original Message - From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 10:11 PM Subject: CS[List Owner]Archive listing on web site... David wrote: Lots of questions here! I guess the only archives to speak of are the actual emails? I guess this group is intentionally low key. LOL! No, David, the list owner is just lazy! I've *finally* updated the Archive page on the web site to reflect the existence of the *NEW* archives... grin Should eliminate this kind of confusion in the future! Peace, Mike D. List owner dude... [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Didn't know yahoo snoops, but still with technology it's pretty easy to find out things I really have been on yahoogroups for years without any problemsuper convenient too... carol From: h.godavari h.godav...@shaw.ca To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sat, August 28, 2010 12:54:14 PM Subject: Re: CS[List Owner]Archive listing on web site... Does Eskimo. com snoop on you or track you around as Yahoo does? Regards hg Jane MacRoss wrote: Seconded! Jane http://www.eamega.com/HighFieldHealth ~The Highest Field of Energy Healing you now!~ - Original Message - From: carolG To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2010 2:21 PM Subject: Re: CS[List Owner]Archive listing on web site... I wish our great list owner, Mike D., would consider yahoogroups (also called egroups.com). So simple to hunt for info. and I could be reading from that NEW site vs. getting digest or single mail. Not sure if I have that option for eskimo!! I know list owner is not crazy, but may be perhaps stubborn or doesn't know how to open a yahoo account. Mike, I'm not super geeky but I am glad to help you as best I can. I bet we have geeks here that know a lot. I propose keep archives where it is presently, close off archives and open same list with same name at Yahoo from here forward. How about it? Thanks list owner! Carol From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, August 27, 2010 3:11:14 PM Subject: CS[List Owner]Archive listing on web site... David wrote: Lots of questions here! I guess the only archives to speak of are the actual emails? I guess this group is intentionally low key. LOL! No, David, the list owner is just lazy! I've *finally* updated the Archive page on the web site to reflect the existence of the *NEW* archives... grin Should eliminate this kind of confusion in the future! Peace, Mike D. List owner dude...
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Peter, Cool song, but still thinking it is so easy to surf, manage and access yahoo. I run a group myself and maintenance free. If we get naughty spam it gets deleted by me and ban person tooyears later...system working cool Wanna turn Mike's life perhaps around to FREEdom carol From: Peter Converse pconve...@primus.ca To: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com; silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sat, August 28, 2010 8:26:30 AM Subject: Re: CS[List Owner]Archive listing on web site... Mike, Lazy? I doubt that... Busy? I believe that... Regardless.Here's your tributesung to the melody of the Billy Joel tune.. .Don't go changin'. to try and please us...~We love you just the way you are~.. Peter (nuthin' like a little suckin' up to the bossman) Have a great day Mike! Y'er doin' a great job! - Original Message - From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 10:11 PM Subject: CS[List Owner]Archive listing on web site... David wrote: Lots of questions here! I guess the only archives to speak of are the actual emails? I guess this group is intentionally low key. LOL! No, David, the list owner is just lazy! I've *finally* updated the Archive page on the web site to reflect the existence of the *NEW* archives... grin Should eliminate this kind of confusion in the future! Peace, Mike D. List owner dude... [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ]
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Hi folks! First off, I hope David has been able to get into the web site and see the change... It's working as far as I know, David. The problem you had looks like it may have just been a transient. Carol and others, I REALLY do understand the appeal of Yahoo or Google groups as a platform for a forum like this, and I will continue to consider them going forward, as a fallback if nothing else. My most urgent reason for never going to one of those options before now was a desire to never place us at the mercy of someone else's opinion of whether our group deserved to exist, and, in the extreme case, to not be one of the countless thousands of groups that would instantly disappear if Somebody made a phone call and said, shut it all down... So, call me paranoid if you'd like, but that resolve is the main reason we've continued to stumble along in this less-than-ideal state, trapped between my desires for security and control, and my inability thus far to implement one of the many superior options that are possible. Hope springs eternal that as my health and mental agility continue to improve, I will succeed in finding or building us a new home that will be more to everyone's liking, mine included. Meanwhile, I pray you will forgive me for my admitted shortcomings (to accompany my acknowledged strengths, just so y'all don't have to say it! grin) and continue to be patient with the clunky interface. You all keep amazing me with your knowledge, generosity, cooperation, and the timeliness of your suggestions! I can't count how often I've seen the answer swing by in passing, just as I'd begun to research a particular question! Amazing! smile If anybody has a trustworthy, high-end web developer in their pocket, willing to work for free or very near to it, y'all let me know, okay? Peace, Mike D. silver-list curator and antiquarian... [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Just to say that I am happy with the list as is. I don't use the digest so I can't speak to any difficulties with it. I like the archives better than the yahoo groups. It would be nice to have file storage even if it only provided a temporary storage to share items that cannot be linked to. If eskimo goes down I don't mind. I know it will be only temporary. BTW, I REALLY appreciate the archives now that we have them. People using the digest might find them handy too. You can even reply to them since the reply address is always silver-l...@eskimo.com. - Steve N - Original Message - From: M. G. Devour [mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com] Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2010 07:00 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: EXTERNAL:Re: CS[List Owner]Archive listing on web site... Hi folks! First off, I hope David has been able to get into the web site and see the change... It's working as far as I know, David. The problem you had looks like it may have just been a transient. Carol and others, I REALLY do understand the appeal of Yahoo or Google groups as a platform for a forum like this, and I will continue to consider them going forward, as a fallback if nothing else. My most urgent reason for never going to one of those options before now was a desire to never place us at the mercy of someone else's opinion of whether our group deserved to exist, and, in the extreme case, to not be one of the countless thousands of groups that would instantly disappear if Somebody made a phone call and said, shut it all down... So, call me paranoid if you'd like, but that resolve is the main reason we've continued to stumble along in this less-than-ideal state, trapped between my desires for security and control, and my inability thus far to implement one of the many superior options that are possible. Hope springs eternal that as my health and mental agility continue to improve, I will succeed in finding or building us a new home that will be more to everyone's liking, mine included. Meanwhile, I pray you will forgive me for my admitted shortcomings (to accompany my acknowledged strengths, just so y'all don't have to say it! grin) and continue to be patient with the clunky interface. You all keep amazing me with your knowledge, generosity, cooperation, and the timeliness of your suggestions! I can't count how often I've seen the answer swing by in passing, just as I'd begun to research a particular question! Amazing! smile If anybody has a trustworthy, high-end web developer in their pocket, willing to work for free or very near to it, y'all let me know, okay? Peace, Mike D. silver-list curator and antiquarian... [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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There is no perfect list serve, BUT I have also been on Yahoo for over ten years with no security issues. Yes the archives search was down for a long time, and yes Yahoo is not perfect. But it does offer many advantages. Although the reason Mike chooses to have his list on Eskimo is his own, and well, he does not have to justify it to me or anyone else. He is free to choose! I am fine with the list the way it is. It works for most of us most of the time and that is about all you can ask. Janet carolG wrote: Didn't know yahoo snoops, but still with technology it's pretty easy to find out things I really have been on yahoogroups for years without any problemsuper convenient too... carol *From:* h.godavari h.godav...@shaw.ca *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Sat, August 28, 2010 12:54:14 PM *Subject:* Re: CS[List Owner]Archive listing on web site... Does Eskimo. com snoop on you or track you around as Yahoo does? Regards hg Jane MacRoss wrote: Seconded! Jane http://www.eamega.com/HighFieldHealth ~The Highest Field of Energy Healing you now!~ - Original Message - *From:* carolG mailto:cgiam...@yahoo.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Saturday, August 28, 2010 2:21 PM *Subject:* Re: CS[List Owner]Archive listing on web site... I wish our great list owner, Mike D., would consider yahoogroups (also called egroups.com http://egroups.com). So simple to hunt for info. and I could be reading from that NEW site vs. getting digest or single mail. Not sure if I have that option for eskimo!! I know list owner is not crazy, but may be perhaps stubborn or doesn't know how to open a yahoo account. Mike, I'm not super geeky but I am glad to help you as best I can. I bet we have geeks here that know a lot. I propose keep archives where it is presently, close off archives and open same list with same name at Yahoo from here forward. How about it? Thanks list owner! Carol *From:* M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Fri, August 27, 2010 3:11:14 PM *Subject:* CS[List Owner]Archive listing on web site... David wrote: Lots of questions here! I guess the only archives to speak of are the actual emails? I guess this group is intentionally low key. LOL! No, David, the list owner is just lazy! I've *finally* updated the Archive page on the web site to reflect the existence of the *NEW* archives... grin Should eliminate this kind of confusion in the future! Peace, Mike D. List owner dude... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Never would have have said Mike's choice is bad choice, but from personal experience yahoo has been great for all groups I'm on and lead. For this group, great mail and lots of great interaction. However, on this end gotta figure out if I can just read from Eskimo. I know I can switch to digest for this group. I suppose I can still search here, but haven't tried that. -- No I don't understand the problems with yahoogroups so can't speak on that behalf. I use it and have love that I can read emails there too. -- I am grateful for the list, the way it remains, blessed to learn and hopefully contribute as well. Don't want this to look like I hate the list, but offered suggestion based on my own experience only. How it works for Mike is great and not looking for him to do what is ideal situation for him. I know he puts lots of time in here and with my group that I lead--nothing needed and mainly self run. Off to exercise. Carol From: Garnet_LDN garnet_...@austin.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sat, August 28, 2010 11:31:29 AM Subject: Re: CS[List Owner]Archive listing on web site... There is no perfect list serve, BUT I have also been on Yahoo for over ten years with no security issues. Yes the archives search was down for a long time, and yes Yahoo is not perfect. But it does offer many advantages. Although the reason Mike chooses to have his list on Eskimo is his own, and well, he does not have to justify it to me or anyone else. He is free to choose! I am fine with the list the way it is. It works for most of us most of the time and that is about all you can ask. Janet carolG wrote: Didn't know yahoo snoops, but still with technology it's pretty easy to find out things I really have been on yahoogroups for years without any problemsuper convenient too... carol *From:* h.godavari h.godav...@shaw.ca *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Sat, August 28, 2010 12:54:14 PM *Subject:* Re: CS[List Owner]Archive listing on web site... Does Eskimo. com snoop on you or track you around as Yahoo does? Regards hg Jane MacRoss wrote: Seconded! Jane http://www.eamega.com/HighFieldHealth ~The Highest Field of Energy Healing you now!~ - Original Message - *From:* carolG mailto:cgiam...@yahoo.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Saturday, August 28, 2010 2:21 PM *Subject:* Re: CS[List Owner]Archive listing on web site... I wish our great list owner, Mike D., would consider yahoogroups (also called egroups.comhttp://egroups.com). So simple to hunt for info. and I could be reading from that NEW site vs. getting digest or single mail. Not sure if I have that option for eskimo!! I know list owner is not crazy, but may be perhaps stubborn or doesn't know how to open a yahoo account. Mike, I'm not super geeky but I am glad to help you as best I can. I bet we have geeks here that know a lot. I propose keep archives where it is presently, close off archives and open same list with same name at Yahoo from here forward. How about it? Thanks list owner! Carol *From:* M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Fri, August 27, 2010 3:11:14 PM *Subject:* CS[List Owner]Archive listing on web site... David wrote: Lots of questions here! I guess the only archives to speak of are the actual emails? I guess this group is intentionally low key. LOL! No, David, the list owner is just lazy! I've *finally* updated the Archive page on the web site to reflect the existence of the *NEW* archives... grin Should eliminate this kind of confusion in the future! Peace, Mike D. List owner dude... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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HI Mike, A major hassle for me trying to move an existing mail list to a Yahoo Group has been the lack of enthusiasm from existing members to sign up to Yahoo. I have a list of about 150 and have only persuaded 2 to move over. I initiallly sent out a few invitations to friends to see how it all works and I got growled at for spamming them !! The other major thing about the way you are doing it is the total lack of interference from advertising. I positively dislike the jumpy uppy down garbage adverts on the Yahoo screen. It is totally irrelevant and uselessly distracting. What features do people want that you are not providing? OK, Tony The happiest people don't have the best of everything, they just make the best of everything they have. --Kerry Tume On 28 Aug 2010 at 12:00, M. G. Devour wrote about : Subject : Re: CS[List Owner]Archive listing Hi folks! First off, I hope David has been able to get into the web site and see the change... It's working as far as I know, David. The problem you had looks like it may have just been a transient. Carol and others, I REALLY do understand the appeal of Yahoo or Google groups as a platform for a forum like this, and I will continue to consider them going forward, as a fallback if nothing else. My most urgent reason for never going to one of those options before now was a desire to never place us at the mercy of someone else's opinion of whether our group deserved to exist, and, in the extreme case, to not be one of the countless thousands of groups that would instantly disappear if Somebody made a phone call and said, shut it all down... So, call me paranoid if you'd like, but that resolve is the main reason we've continued to stumble along in this less-than-ideal state, trapped between my desires for security and control, and my inability thus far to implement one of the many superior options that are possible. Hope springs eternal that as my health and mental agility continue to improve, I will succeed in finding or building us a new home that will be more to everyone's liking, mine included. Meanwhile, I pray you will forgive me for my admitted shortcomings (to accompany my acknowledged strengths, just so y'all don't have to say it! grin) and continue to be patient with the clunky interface. You all keep amazing me with your knowledge, generosity, cooperation, and the timeliness of your suggestions! I can't count how often I've seen the answer swing by in passing, just as I'd begun to research a particular question! Amazing! smile If anybody has a trustworthy, high-end web developer in their pocket, willing to work for free or very near to it, y'all let me know, okay? Peace, Mike D. silver-list curator and antiquarian... [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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I can tell you from personal experience it is no fun having a very active forum shuttered because someone does not like you. A friend and I had an MSN group which became very popular having thousands of posts per month when some harpies [using nice language here *blink blink*] who were jealous of our popularity and for...ahem, personal reasons got in touch with MSN and basically lied and had us shuttered. After several weeks of investigations MSN found out they'd been lied to but by then it was too late and the damage was done. We lost valuable poetry, photos and posts not to mention a thriving membership. I see nothing wrong with eskimo and IMO it's not all that different than yahoo. Yahoo has constant problems with their search engine which is pretty frustrating at times. I've found most of the information on the CS forum so valuable that I'd be silly to complain...ahem. Regards, Sandy --- On Sat, 8/28/10, M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com wrote: From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS[List Owner]Archive listing on web site... To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Saturday, August 28, 2010, 7:00 AM Hi folks! If anybody has a trustworthy, high-end web developer in their pocket, willing to work for free or very near to it, y'all let me know, okay? Peace, Mike D. silver-list curator and antiquarian... [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Oh My... Talk about Chutzpa... And Mike will be SO smooth... Chuck Dijon vu -- the same mustard as before. On 8/28/2010 12:21:00 AM, carolG (cgiam...@yahoo.com) wrote: I wish our great list owner, Mike D., would consider yahoogroups (also called egroups.com). So simple to hunt for info. and I could be reading from that NEW site vs. getting digest or single mail. Not sure if I have that option for eskimo!! I know list owner is not crazy, but may be perhaps stubborn or doesn't know how to open a yahoo account. Mike, I'm not super geeky but I am glad to help you as best I can. I bet we have geeks here that know a lot. I propose keep archives where it is presently, close off archives and -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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I second that --- On Sat, 8/28/10, Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: CS[List Owner]Archive listing on web site... To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Saturday, August 28, 2010, 8:07 AM I am amazed by people even beginning to complain about anything about this group. The incredible knowledge given out freely here is priceless. If you don't like the way it is sent outjust go join a different group. Deb -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS[List Owner]Archive listing on web site...=GREAT group yes....
This group is great. So much wisdom shared here. Ask questions and receive great answers. Thanks Mike for all you do. I'm glad you don't see suggestions or opinions as hateful like what I just read from two of those members!Feel free to write me privately. Let's continue to move ahead and learn from each other. Health is wealth! carol From: Sandy hollis302000 Sent: Sat, August 28, 2010 7:06:58 PM I second that --- On Sat, 8/28/10, Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com Date: Saturday, August 28, 2010, 8:07 AM I
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Hi gang, I have no problem with suggestions and even complaints, especially when they're meant in good spirit, not to mention pretty legitimate! Using Yahoo groups would make my life easier in most ways, as long as it worked like it was supposed to. I don't mind Carol's suggestion or comments at all. She knows she's been heard, and she's heard my side of it now and understands. There's no need to worry about it beyond that. When we do get something better going, I'll be the happiest one of the bunch! smile Peace, Mike [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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From: a...@new.co.za To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 20:04:05 +0200 Subject: Re: CS[List Owner]Archive listing on web site... HI Mike, A major hassle for me trying to move an existing mail list to a Yahoo Group has been the lack of enthusiasm from existing members to sign up to Yahoo. I have a list of about 150 and have only persuaded 2 to move over. I initiallly sent out a few invitations to friends to see how it all works and I got growled at for spamming them !! The other major thing about the way you are doing it is the total lack of interference from advertising. I positively dislike the jumpy uppy down garbage adverts on the Yahoo screen. It is totally irrelevant and uselessly distracting. What features do people want that you are not providing? -Exactly, yahoo is for yahoos, and this keeps everyone away from the rabble. As with any worthwhile reading material, one has to search for it, that's how I've worked out what's worth reading and what's not, the common stuff can be found anywhere and everywhere, with the additional rubbish that goes with it. N. OK, Tony The happiest people don't have the best of everything, they just make the best of everything they have. --Kerry Tume On 28 Aug 2010 at 12:00, M. G. Devour wrote about : Subject : Re: CS[List Owner]Archive listing Hi folks! First off, I hope David has been able to get into the web site and see the change... It's working as far as I know, David. The problem you had looks like it may have just been a transient. Carol and others, I REALLY do understand the appeal of Yahoo or Google groups as a platform for a forum like this, and I will continue to consider them going forward, as a fallback if nothing else. My most urgent reason for never going to one of those options before now was a desire to never place us at the mercy of someone else's opinion of whether our group deserved to exist, and, in the extreme case, to not be one of the countless thousands of groups that would instantly disappear if Somebody made a phone call and said, shut it all down... So, call me paranoid if you'd like, but that resolve is the main reason we've continued to stumble along in this less-than-ideal state, trapped between my desires for security and control, and my inability thus far to implement one of the many superior options that are possible. Hope springs eternal that as my health and mental agility continue to improve, I will succeed in finding or building us a new home that will be more to everyone's liking, mine included. Meanwhile, I pray you will forgive me for my admitted shortcomings (to accompany my acknowledged strengths, just so y'all don't have to say it! grin) and continue to be patient with the clunky interface. You all keep amazing me with your knowledge, generosity, cooperation, and the timeliness of your suggestions! I can't count how often I've seen the answer swing by in passing, just as I'd begun to research a particular question! Amazing! smile If anybody has a trustworthy, high-end web developer in their pocket, willing to work for free or very near to it, y'all let me know, okay? Peace, Mike D. silver-list curator and antiquarian... [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Carol, speaking of hatefulness I'd appreciate it if you'd refrain from privately emailing me. Please consider this my last communication with you. Thank you, Sandy --- On Sat, 8/28/10, carolG cgiam...@yahoo.com wrote: From: carolG cgiam...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: CS[List Owner]Archive listing on web site...=GREAT group yes To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Saturday, August 28, 2010, 9:07 PM This group is great. So much wisdom shared here. Ask questions and receive great answers. Thanks Mike for all you do. I'm glad you don't see suggestions or opinions as hateful like what I just read from two of those members! Feel free to write me privately. Let's continue to move ahead and learn from each other. Health is wealth! carol From: Sandy hollis302000 Sent: Sat, August 28, 2010 7:06:58 PM I second that --- On Sat, 8/28/10, Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com Date: Saturday, August 28, 2010, 8:07 AM I
CS[List Owner]Archive listing on web site...
David wrote: Lots of questions here! I guess the only archives to speak of are the actual emails? I guess this group is intentionally low key. LOL! No, David, the list owner is just lazy! I've *finally* updated the Archive page on the web site to reflect the existence of the *NEW* archives... grin Should eliminate this kind of confusion in the future! Peace, Mike D. List owner dude... [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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call me crazy but I can't find it. Is it here somewhere? : http://www.silverlist.org/ I get a not found message. ~David
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I wish our great list owner, Mike D., would consider yahoogroups (also called egroups.com). So simple to hunt for info. and I could be reading from that NEW site vs. getting digest or single mail. Not sure if I have that option for eskimo!! I know list owner is not crazy, but may be perhaps stubborn or doesn't know how to open a yahoo account. Mike, I'm not super geeky but I am glad to help you as best I can. I bet we have geeks here that know a lot. I propose keep archives where it is presently, close off archives and open same list with same name at Yahoo from here forward. How about it? Thanks list owner! Carol From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, August 27, 2010 3:11:14 PM Subject: CS[List Owner]Archive listing on web site... David wrote: Lots of questions here! I guess the only archives to speak of are the actual emails? I guess this group is intentionally low key. LOL! No, David, the list owner is just lazy! I've *finally* updated the Archive page on the web site to reflect the existence of the *NEW* archives... grin Should eliminate this kind of confusion in the future! Peace, Mike D. List owner dude... [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ]
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Seconded! Jane http://www.eamega.com/HighFieldHealth ~The Highest Field of Energy Healing you now!~ - Original Message - From: carolG To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2010 2:21 PM Subject: Re: CS[List Owner]Archive listing on web site... I wish our great list owner, Mike D., would consider yahoogroups (also called egroups.com). So simple to hunt for info. and I could be reading from that NEW site vs. getting digest or single mail. Not sure if I have that option for eskimo!! I know list owner is not crazy, but may be perhaps stubborn or doesn't know how to open a yahoo account. Mike, I'm not super geeky but I am glad to help you as best I can. I bet we have geeks here that know a lot. I propose keep archives where it is presently, close off archives and open same list with same name at Yahoo from here forward. How about it? Thanks list owner! Carol -- From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, August 27, 2010 3:11:14 PM Subject: CS[List Owner]Archive listing on web site... David wrote: Lots of questions here! I guess the only archives to speak of are the actual emails? I guess this group is intentionally low key. LOL! No, David, the list owner is just lazy! I've *finally* updated the Archive page on the web site to reflect the existence of the *NEW* archives... grin Should eliminate this kind of confusion in the future! Peace, Mike D. List owner dude... [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.441 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3097 - Release Date: 08/27/10 06:34:00
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With all due respect, you don't understand the reasons for the list being the way it is. Mike D hasn't made this choice lightly, and I for one stand firmly behind the decision. Just one reason alone is enough: He (the list owner) has been adamant about no one being able to mine email addresses and this solution provides that. He will state this more elegantly than I, but what you don't know can hurt you...and it would seem you don't understand many of the reasons *not* to use yahoogroups. Craig carolG wrote: I wish our great list owner, Mike D., would consider yahoogroups (also called egroups.com). So simple to hunt for info. and I could be reading from that NEW site vs. getting digest or single mail. Not sure if I have that option for eskimo!! I know list owner is not crazy, but may be perhaps stubborn or doesn't know how to open a yahoo account. Mike, I'm not super geeky but I am glad to help you as best I can. I bet we have geeks here that know a lot. I propose keep archives where it is presently, close off archives and open same list with same name at Yahoo from here forward. How about it? Thanks list owner! -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
