RE: CSArthritis vitamin B5
It's good to know there is another that is animal based. When I was looking only Jarrow said animal based, the rest of the web sites that I found said plant based. Don't know if it said that on the label, but it said it on the sites selling the CMO. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- The one I use, bestcmo is animal based. It is the original formula made by Harry Diehl and is highly recommended by Len Sands, an expert in the field. It is more expensive than most because it also contains a proprietary blend of enzymes to make it more bio-available. CMO can be hard to digest.
Re: CSArthritis vitamin B5
Would you share the dosage used? Thanks. PT From: Renee gaiac...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, December 12, 2010 5:32:23 PM Subject: Re: CSArthritis vitamin B5 I often wonder, when people say CMO doesn't work for them, if they have used the plant based version of it. That isn't what the body needs/uses to restore the ligaments, etc. It needs animal based CMO. From what I've seen, just about all CMO except Jarrow, is now plant based. So if anyone is going to try CMO, do get Jarrow animal derived CMO. I got some of the last true beef CMO from a man that made it himself, and it worked in 10 days for my brothers years long hip pain (in both hips actually). He continued taking it for 30 days as I had suggested, but the pain stopped in 10 days and has not come back. It's been a year now. I have also heard good things about borax. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- I have tried CMO, which works for some people. It is not a cure for me, but it may have reduced the symptoms in general, but I can't really tell for sure.
Re: CSArthritis vitamin B5
Since what I bought was 'home made' by a guy, it simply came in big chunks that my brother would scrape off (it kind of crumbles) a quarter teaspoon, twice a day. He ate it with his meals. It's not bad tasting, particularly, but very greasy, so best taken with some other fatty type food to make it go down. What this dose would translate to in capsules, I have no idea. Sorry Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- Would you share the dosage used?
Re: CSArthritis vitamin B5
Renee, It would be beautiful to publish source of this homemade as it probably won't be long before big pharma, AMA and our government powers regulate supplements Others, Keep this in mind and share info because we may be making our own supplements. - Original Message - From: Renee To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, December 13, 2010 10:07 AM Subject: Re: CSArthritis vitamin B5 Since what I bought was 'home made' by a guy, it simply came in big chunks that my brother would scrape off (it kind of crumbles) a quarter teaspoon, twice a day. He ate it with his meals. It's not bad tasting, particularly, but very greasy, so best taken with some other fatty type food to make it go down. What this dose would translate to in capsules, I have no idea. Sorry. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- Would you share the dosage used?
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Indeed, I'd care for this information myself! Lisa _ From: vicki hood [mailto:mutt...@isp.com] Sent: Monday, December 13, 2010 6:44 PM To: Renee; silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSArthritis vitamin B5 Renee, It would be beautiful to publish source of this homemade as it probably won't be long before big pharma, AMA and our government powers regulate supplements Others, Keep this in mind and share info because we may be making our own supplements. - Original Message - From: Renee mailto:gaiac...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, December 13, 2010 10:07 AM Subject: Re: CSArthritis vitamin B5 Since what I bought was 'home made' by a guy, it simply came in big chunks that my brother would scrape off (it kind of crumbles) a quarter teaspoon, twice a day. He ate it with his meals. It's not bad tasting, particularly, but very greasy, so best taken with some other fatty type food to make it go down. What this dose would translate to in capsules, I have no idea. Sorry. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- Would you share the dosage used?
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Myristin CMO is animal based, too. They say: We're the family company of the discoverer of cetyl myristoleate (CMO), Harry W. Diehl. EHP Products has been marketing CMO since 1996, and is the only company in the world to offer a 40% CMO softgel. I tried it think I went through three bottles. I drank no alcohol and had no caffeine. My diet was probably higher in fat than it should have been. I didn't notice any improvement. Some day I hope to try again, but with my husband home, it's so hard not to have the morning coffee. Pat -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSArthritis vitamin B5
I'd love to give it to you, but he's retired and not making it anymore. I feel bad because I've told a couple people but they can't get it. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- Indeed, Id care for this information myself!sad.gif
RE: CSArthritis vitamin B5
Hmmm.well if *he* was able to make some home-made stuff perhaps it's a matter of doing some research and coming up with a recipe or two to cross reference. I'll give it a go. Lisa _ From: Renee [mailto:gaiac...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, December 13, 2010 8:26 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSArthritis vitamin B5 I'd love to give it to you, but he's retired and not making it anymore. I feel bad because I've told a couple people but they can't get it. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- Indeed, I'd care for this information myself! image001.gif
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If he's retired and not making it anymore, maybe he would be willing to tell you how to make it yourself... Dan On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 7:25 PM, Renee gaiac...@gmail.com wrote: I'd love to give it to you, but he's retired and not making it anymore. I feel bad because I've told a couple people but they can't get it. Samala, Renee *---Original Message---* Indeed, I’d care for this information myself!
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Um, I don't know. I don't know him, just bought from him once--just recently when I told someone about him and they contacted him, is when he said he'd quit making it. I would imagine it could be a lot of smelly work, as it comes from cows. So boiling? Baking? I have no idea. The stuff doesn't smell pleasant to begin with--can't imagine what the house would smell like when making it. Lol He doesn't have an email address--I just have a regular address. If someone is interested enough write me and I'll send his address to you and you could write and ask him if he'd care to share his process. I don't want to post it here, publicly. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- If he's retired and not making it anymore, maybe he would be willing to tell you how to make it yourself...
CSArthritis vitamin B5
Thanks for the quick responses! I'm now recalling what someone recently told me; that the third constituent of a remedial regime includes vitamin B5, a.k.a. Pantothenic Acid. The first two constituents are, of course, are Glucosamine and Chondroitin. If this is true I'll certainly return to this regime, though I would probably make the assumption that one cap daily of the B5, at 500mg. would be adequate. I'm certainly not averse to other, prospective remedies, and in fact I earnestly solicit these. However I would tend to favor whatever has a basis in explanation. I'm sure that there are otherwise some prospective remedies that have an anecdotal basis, but I'm most inclined to reasoned approaches. Again, the frequent assertion here, that *there are no incurable illnesses...* has been comforting. Reid Harvey www.SilverCeramicSystems.com Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Also, don't eat or use nightshades-tomatoes, bell and hot peppers (black pepper is fine), white potatoes, eggplant, tobacco. These plants cause inflammation in susceptible people. Supplement with Vitamin K2 if you're going to eat nightshades. Nenah Nenah Sylver, PhD electromedicine specialist and author The Rife Handbook of Frequency Therapy (2009) The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy (2004) http://www.nenahsylver.com www.nenahsylver.com
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I had to stop taking glucosamine, which had controlled most of my arthritic symptoms, because I found that I had an intestinal sensitivity to chittin and shellfish, from which it is derived. I can not even take the vegetarian glucosamine, so I suppose I am now sensitised to glucosamine. I had taken it for 10 to 15 years, and was having increasingly severe intestinal and gall bladder symptoms (inflammation). These are going away slowly since stopping the glucosamine. I found that taking boron, specifically Borax (not Boraxo) worked for certain types of arthritic symptoms. It seemed to harden the joints in my hands so I no longer had pain from things like making a really tight fist, or twisting a really tight cap off of a jar, etc. I had had pain between two knuckles where they had been crushed together from someone demonstrating a kung fu locking technique. This had lasted for over a year. Within a week of taking borax as a supplement the pain went away, never to return. Food sensitivities cause arthritic symptoms in many people. As Nenah says, some are sensitive to nightshade family plants. I don't think that is true in my case, although I have never been off them completely for long enough to really tell. For me it is coffee. If I drink it I have increasingly severe pain in the connective tissue around my joints including the top back edges of my hips and lower back. I had to completely get off coffee in any form for about a month to really tell the difference. The problem is that the symptoms occur after one or two days of ingesting the offending substance. You have to be really rigorous in you analysis to make the connection. It was very hard to not drink coffee as its use is so pervasive. One thing that works for some is Hyaluronic Acid. I have not tried this, but it sounds interesting. I have tried CMO, which works for some people. It is not a cure for me, but it may have reduced the symptoms in general, but I can't really tell for sure. Maintaining the proper body pH is also helpful. (Don't let your body get too acidic.) This also helps for gouty symptoms, I believe. Cellery seed extract often helps for gout from first hand reports I have heard. Cherry juice is supposed to help as well for some. Dan On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 10:40 AM, A. Reid Harvey reidhar...@hotmail.com wrote: Thanks for the quick responses! I'm now recalling what someone recently told me; that the third constituent of a remedial regime includes vitamin B5, a.k.a. Pantothenic Acid. The first two constituents are, of course, are Glucosamine and Chondroitin. If this is true I'll certainly return to this regime, though I would probably make the assumption that one cap daily of the B5, at 500mg. would be adequate. I'm certainly not averse to other, prospective remedies, and in fact I earnestly solicit these. However I would tend to favor whatever has a basis in explanation. I'm sure that there are otherwise some prospective remedies that have an anecdotal basis, but I'm most inclined to reasoned approaches. Again, the frequent assertion here, that *there are no incurable illnesses...* has been comforting. Reid Harvey www.SilverCeramicSystems.com Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subjectunsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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If there are widespread issues there may be serious food intolerances. One way to deal with this is to get blood tested at a place like Alcat Labs. They will test various panels for many items and you can pick which panels you want. I finally did this and when I removed the offending foods my body turned around. I'm not saying it was easy but it is doable. PT From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, December 12, 2010 2:31:52 PM Subject: Re: CSArthritis vitamin B5 I had to stop taking glucosamine, which had controlled most of my arthritic symptoms, because I found that I had an intestinal sensitivity to chittin and shellfish, from which it is derived. I can not even take the vegetarian glucosamine, so I suppose I am now sensitised to glucosamine. I had taken it for 10 to 15 years, and was having increasingly severe intestinal and gall bladder symptoms (inflammation). These are going away slowly since stopping the glucosamine. I found that taking boron, specifically Borax (not Boraxo) worked for certain types of arthritic symptoms. It seemed to harden the joints in my hands so I no longer had pain from things like making a really tight fist, or twisting a really tight cap off of a jar, etc. I had had pain between two knuckles where they had been crushed together from someone demonstrating a kung fu locking technique. This had lasted for over a year. Within a week of taking borax as a supplement the pain went away, never to return. Food sensitivities cause arthritic symptoms in many people. As Nenah says, some are sensitive to nightshade family plants. I don't think that is true in my case, although I have never been off them completely for long enough to really tell. For me it is coffee. If I drink it I have increasingly severe pain in the connective tissue around my joints including the top back edges of my hips and lower back. I had to completely get off coffee in any form for about a month to really tell the difference. The problem is that the symptoms occur after one or two days of ingesting the offending substance. You have to be really rigorous in you analysis to make the connection. It was very hard to not drink coffee as its use is so pervasive. One thing that works for some is Hyaluronic Acid. I have not tried this, but it sounds interesting. I have tried CMO, which works for some people. It is not a cure for me, but it may have reduced the symptoms in general, but I can't really tell for sure. Maintaining the proper body pH is also helpful. (Don't let your body get too acidic.) This also helps for gouty symptoms, I believe. Cellery seed extract often helps for gout from first hand reports I have heard. Cherry juice is supposed to help as well for some. Dan On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 10:40 AM, A. Reid Harvey reidhar...@hotmail.com wrote: Thanks for the quick responses! I'm now recalling what someone recently told me; that the third constituent of a remedial regime includes vitamin B5, a.k.a. Pantothenic Acid. The first two constituents are, of course, are Glucosamine and Chondroitin. If this is true I'll certainly return to this regime, though I would probably make the assumption that one cap daily of the B5, at 500mg. would be adequate. I'm certainly not averse to other, prospective remedies, and in fact I earnestly solicit these. However I would tend to favor whatever has a basis in explanation. I'm sure that there are otherwise some prospective remedies that have an anecdotal basis, but I'm most inclined to reasoned approaches. Again, the frequent assertion here, that *there are no incurable illnesses...* has been comforting. Reid Harvey www.SilverCeramicSystems.com Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subjectunsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSArthritis vitamin B5
I often wonder, when people say CMO doesn't work for them, if they have used the plant based version of it. That isn't what the body needs/uses to restore the ligaments, etc. It needs animal based CMO. From what I've seen just about all CMO except Jarrow, is now plant based. So if anyone is going to try CMO, do get Jarrow animal derived CMO. I got some of the last true beef CMO from a man that made it himself, and it worked in 10 days for my brothers years long hip pain (in both hips actually). He continued taking it for 30 days as I had suggested, but the pain stopped in 10 days and has not come back. It's been a year now. I have also heard good things about borax. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- I have tried CMO, which works for some people. It is not a cure for me, but it may have reduced the symptoms in general, but I can't really tell for sure.
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How can I tell if it is plant or animal based? Mine says made for The Vitamin Shoppe. A Proprietary Blend of Fatty Acid Esters. I have been taking it for 30 days, with no results. I have Osteoarthritis in both hips.. On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 5:32 PM, Renee gaiac...@gmail.com wrote: I often wonder, when people say CMO doesn't work for them, if they have used the plant based version of it. That isn't what the body needs/uses to restore the ligaments, etc. It needs animal based CMO. From what I've seen, just about all CMO except Jarrow, is now plant based. So if anyone is going to try CMO, do get Jarrow animal derived CMO. I got some of the last true beef CMO from a man that made it himself, and it worked in 10 days for my brothers years long hip pain (in both hips actually). He continued taking it for 30 days as I had suggested, but the pain stopped in 10 days and has not come back. It's been a year now. I have also heard good things about borax. Samala, Renee *---Original Message---* I have tried CMO, which works for some people. It is not a cure for me, but it may have reduced the symptoms in general, but I can't really tell for sure. -- *PLEASE remove ALL names and email addresses before forwarding; and send only as BLIND CARBON COPY (Bcc). Erasing the addresses helps prevent SPAMMERS from mining the addresses and propagating VIRUSES and reduces the possibility of identity theft.* Day Sutton day.sut...@gmail.com
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The one I use, bestcmo is animal based. It is the original formula made by Harry Diehl and is highly recommended by Len Sands, an expert in the field. It is more expensive than most because it also contains a proprietary blend of enzymes to make it more bio-available. CMO can be hard to digest. http://bestcmo.com/ If it weren't for this product, I would've already had to have my hip replaced. With this CMO, it's been 4+1/2 yrs since I was told that surgery was inevitable. I am walking better now than I was then. So far, I've taken 3 bottles of this since the dx in June of '06, about 1 every 15 months. Sharon How can I tell if it is plant or animal based? Mine says made for The Vitamin Shoppe. A Proprietary Blend of Fatty Acid Esters. I have been taking it for 30 days, with no results. I have Osteoarthritis in both hips..
