Re: CSBeck blood purifier
I pour the silver from the brewing container into the storing container and don¹t see any noticeable bits¹ anywhere. I do get grey electrodes but just wipe them off with a tissue. dee From: Neville Munn one.red...@hotmail.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 08:59:59 +1100 To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSBeck blood purifier Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 14:59:59 -0700 Dee, MA and Zoe, does anyone decant or filter at any time...Yes/No? N.
RE: CSBeck blood purifier
No, you won't see anything in the solution if you transfer the solution immediately after brewing Dee, I'm referring to after the solution has been in storage for a while, if any settlement or sediment is observable over time in storage, or if there is what I would term a 'slick' or a coating, or 'stuff?' appear to be floating on the surface of the solution over time in storage. Maybe not, or maybe you've never looked closely or taken any notice. Just wondering that's all g. N. Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 12:34:49 +0100 Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier From: d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Re: CSBeck blood purifier I pour the silver from the brewing container into the storing container and don’t see any noticeable ‘bits’ anywhere. I do get grey electrodes but just wipe them off with a tissue. dee From: Neville Munn one.red...@hotmail.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 08:59:59 +1100 To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSBeck blood purifier Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 14:59:59 -0700 Dee, MA and Zoe, does anyone decant or filter at any time...Yes/No? N.
Re: CSBeck blood purifier
I do leave it in the brewing jar for some weeks usually Neville, sometimes it just stays in there depending whether or not I need to make some more. dee From: Neville Munn one.red...@hotmail.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 23:03:58 +1100 To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSBeck blood purifier Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 05:03:58 -0700 No, you won't see anything in the solution if you transfer the solution immediately after brewing Dee, I'm referring to after the solution has been in storage for a while, if any settlement or sediment is observable over time in storage, or if there is what I would term a 'slick' or a coating, or 'stuff?' appear to be floating on the surface of the solution over time in storage. Maybe not, or maybe you've never looked closely or taken any notice. Just wondering that's all g. N. Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 12:34:49 +0100 Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier From: d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Re: CSBeck blood purifier I pour the silver from the brewing container into the storing container and don¹t see any noticeable bits¹ anywhere. I do get grey electrodes but just wipe them off with a tissue. dee From: Neville Munn one.red...@hotmail.com http://one.redfox%40hotmail.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com http://silver-list%40eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com http://silver-list%40eskimo.com Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 08:59:59 +1100 To: silver-list@eskimo.com http://silver-list%40eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com http://silver-list%40eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSBeck blood purifier Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com http://silver-list%40eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com http://silver-list%40eskimo.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 14:59:59 -0700 Dee, MA and Zoe, does anyone decant or filter at any time...Yes/No? N.
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Neville, I've had some jars stored for a very long time and that is correct, no sediment noticeable to the naked eye anyway. The one exception is when I was using plastic water jugs to store the extra CS- those would have a few (very few) black specks on the bottom. Never noticed this in the glass. zoe From: Neville Munn one.red...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, 11 October 2012, 22:08 Subject: RE: CSBeck blood purifier Decant...Pouring off liquid leaving some liquid behind which may have observable settlement or sediment in the bottom of the storage vessel. To all who replied...So, it would appear there is never any settlement observable in the bottom of the containers after being in storage for a while - interesting. Thanks for that everyone. N. Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 23:31:15 +0100 From: mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier To: silver-list@eskimo.com What do you mean by decant? I make it in quart canning jars and pour out what I need , and cap what is left. zoe From: Neville Munn one.red...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, 11 October 2012, 17:59 Subject: RE: CSBeck blood purifier Dee, MA and Zoe, does anyone decant or filter at any time...Yes/No? N. Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 17:14:02 +0100 From: mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier To: silver-list@eskimo.com Same here, Ive used a silver puppy for years and its always been nice and clear. On occasion I do have to clean the silver rods, but nothing serious. zoe From: MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, 11 October 2012, 10:05 Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier Ditto here. My unit is a Colloid Master, which reverses polarity on a set schedule. My EIS is always crystal clear, with no residues, and minimal discoloration of the electrodes. MA From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, October 11, 2012 5:39:43 AM Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier I cannot see this. My Puppy has reverse polarity and I don’t get any dark oxides forming—quite the reverse in fact. dee
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Never, Neville!! MA From: Neville Munn one.red...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, October 11, 2012 5:00:36 PM Subject: RE: CSBeck blood purifier Dee, MA and Zoe, does anyone decant or filter at any time...Yes/No? N. Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 17:14:02 +0100 From: mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier To: silver-list@eskimo.com Same here, Ive used a silver puppy for years and its always been nice and clear. On occasion I do have to clean the silver rods, but nothing serious. zoe From: MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, 11 October 2012, 10:05 Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier Ditto here. My unit is a Colloid Master, which reverses polarity on a set schedule. My EIS is always crystal clear, with no residues, and minimal discoloration of the electrodes. MA From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, October 11, 2012 5:39:43 AM Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier I cannot see this. My Puppy has reverse polarity and I don’t get any dark oxides forming—quite the reverse in fact. dee
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I cannot see this. My Puppy has reverse polarity and I don¹t get any dark oxides formingquite the reverse in fact. dee From: D B mothman...@gmail.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 23:31:17 +0100 To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 15:31:18 -0700 The idea of reversing polarity during the manufacturing process is a very bad idea and obvious design flaw. Far better to select one electrode, and make a mark at the top with a pair of pliers, then simply connect it to positive one run , then negative the next, keeping note of dates you use the marked electrode with neg or pos current. The reason for this is that you will accrue a large amount of dark oxides which should not be disturbed during manufacturing. If they get into the sol (colloid) then the ions coming of the electrode will then stick to those chunks and your sol will bottom out much quicker, the particles also being less therapeutically beneficial as they will be getting so large to the point where they will just not be able to pass inside cell tissue and kill pathogens, also creating more possibility of argyria skin discolouration, though that can be lessened or even removed with selenium supplementation to chelate it from the skin I read. The regular changing of polarity will just push a load of muck into the distilled water and act as a magnet for the smaller groups of ions to stick to. With best wishes, Dave
Re: CSBeck blood purifier
Ditto here. My unit is a Colloid Master, which reverses polarity on a set schedule. My EIS is always crystal clear, with no residues, and minimal discoloration of the electrodes. MA From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, October 11, 2012 5:39:43 AM Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier I cannot see this. My Puppy has reverse polarity and I don’t get any dark oxides forming—quite the reverse in fact. dee From: D B mothman...@gmail.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 23:31:17 +0100 To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 15:31:18 -0700 The idea of reversing polarity during the manufacturing process is a very bad idea and obvious design flaw. Far better to select one electrode, and make a mark at the top with a pair of pliers, then simply connect it to positive one run , then negative the next, keeping note of dates you use the marked electrode with neg or pos current. The reason for this is that you will accrue a large amount of dark oxides which should not be disturbed during manufacturing. If they get into the sol (colloid) then the ions coming of the electrode will then stick to those chunks and your sol will bottom out much quicker, the particles also being less therapeutically beneficial as they will be getting so large to the point where they will just not be able to pass inside cell tissue and kill pathogens, also creating more possibility of argyria skin discolouration, though that can be lessened or even removed with selenium supplementation to chelate it from the skin I read. The regular changing of polarity will just push a load of muck into the distilled water and act as a magnet for the smaller groups of ions to stick to. With best wishes, Dave
Re: CSBeck blood purifier
Same here, Ive used a silver puppy for years and its always been nice and clear. On occasion I do have to clean the silver rods, but nothing serious. zoe From: MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, 11 October 2012, 10:05 Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier Ditto here. My unit is a Colloid Master, which reverses polarity on a set schedule. My EIS is always crystal clear, with no residues, and minimal discoloration of the electrodes. MA From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, October 11, 2012 5:39:43 AM Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier I cannot see this. My Puppy has reverse polarity and I don’t get any dark oxides forming—quite the reverse in fact. dee From: D B mothman...@gmail.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 23:31:17 +0100 To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 15:31:18 -0700 The idea of reversing polarity during the manufacturing process is a very bad idea and obvious design flaw. Far better to select one electrode, and make a mark at the top with a pair of pliers, then simply connect it to positive one run , then negative the next, keeping note of dates you use the marked electrode with neg or pos current. The reason for this is that you will accrue a large amount of dark oxides which should not be disturbed during manufacturing. If they get into the sol (colloid) then the ions coming of the electrode will then stick to those chunks and your sol will bottom out much quicker, the particles also being less therapeutically beneficial as they will be getting so large to the point where they will just not be able to pass inside cell tissue and kill pathogens, also creating more possibility of argyria skin discolouration, though that can be lessened or even removed with selenium supplementation to chelate it from the skin I read. The regular changing of polarity will just push a load of muck into the distilled water and act as a magnet for the smaller groups of ions to stick to. With best wishes, Dave
RE: CSBeck blood purifier
Dee, MA and Zoe, does anyone decant or filter at any time...Yes/No? N. Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 17:14:02 +0100 From: mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier To: silver-list@eskimo.com Same here, Ive used a silver puppy for years and its always been nice and clear. On occasion I do have to clean the silver rods, but nothing serious. zoe From: MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, 11 October 2012, 10:05 Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier Ditto here. My unit is a Colloid Master, which reverses polarity on a set schedule. My EIS is always crystal clear, with no residues, and minimal discoloration of the electrodes. MA From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, October 11, 2012 5:39:43 AM Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier I cannot see this. My Puppy has reverse polarity and I don’t get any dark oxides forming—quite the reverse in fact. dee
Re: CSBeck blood purifier
What do you mean by decant? I make it in quart canning jars and pour out what I need , and cap what is left. zoe From: Neville Munn one.red...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, 11 October 2012, 17:59 Subject: RE: CSBeck blood purifier Dee, MA and Zoe, does anyone decant or filter at any time...Yes/No? N. Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 17:14:02 +0100 From: mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier To: silver-list@eskimo.com Same here, Ive used a silver puppy for years and its always been nice and clear. On occasion I do have to clean the silver rods, but nothing serious. zoe From: MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, 11 October 2012, 10:05 Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier Ditto here. My unit is a Colloid Master, which reverses polarity on a set schedule. My EIS is always crystal clear, with no residues, and minimal discoloration of the electrodes. MA From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, October 11, 2012 5:39:43 AM Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier I cannot see this. My Puppy has reverse polarity and I don’t get any dark oxides forming—quite the reverse in fact. dee
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No. Never but then I have always used distilled water. regards hg - Original Message - From: Neville Munn one.red...@hotmail.com Date: Thursday, October 11, 2012 5:02 pm Subject: RE: CSBeck blood purifier To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Dee, MA and Zoe, does anyone decant or filter at any time...Yes/No? N. Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 17:14:02 +0100 From: mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier To: silver-list@eskimo.com Same here, Ive used a silver puppy for years and its always been nice and clear. On occasion I do have to clean the silver rods, but nothing serious. zoe From: MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, 11 October 2012, 10:05 Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier Ditto here. My unit is a Colloid Master, which reverses polarity on a set schedule. My EIS is always crystal clear, with no residues, and minimal discoloration of the electrodes. MA From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, October 11, 2012 5:39:43 AM Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier I cannot see this. My Puppy has reverse polarity and I don’t get any dark oxides forming—quite the reverse in fact. dee
RE: CSBeck blood purifier
Decant...Pouring off liquid leaving some liquid behind which may have observable settlement or sediment in the bottom of the storage vessel. To all who replied...So, it would appear there is never any settlement observable in the bottom of the containers after being in storage for a while - interesting. Thanks for that everyone. N. Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 23:31:15 +0100 From: mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier To: silver-list@eskimo.com What do you mean by decant? I make it in quart canning jars and pour out what I need , and cap what is left.zoeFrom: Neville Munn one.red...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, 11 October 2012, 17:59 Subject: RE: CSBeck blood purifier Dee, MA and Zoe, does anyone decant or filter at any time...Yes/No? N. Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 17:14:02 +0100 From: mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier To: silver-list@eskimo.com Same here, Ive used a silver puppy for years and its always been nice and clear. On occasion I do have to clean the silver rods, but nothing serious. zoe From: MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, 11 October 2012, 10:05 Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier Ditto here. My unit is a Colloid Master, which reverses polarity on a set schedule. My EIS is always crystal clear, with no residues, and minimal discoloration of the electrodes. MA From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, October 11, 2012 5:39:43 AM Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier I cannot see this. My Puppy has reverse polarity and I don’t get any dark oxides forming—quite the reverse in fact. dee
Re: CSBeck blood purifier
The idea of reversing polarity during the manufacturing process is a very bad idea and obvious design flaw. Far better to select one electrode, and make a mark at the top with a pair of pliers, then simply connect it to positive one run , then negative the next, keeping note of dates you use the marked electrode with neg or pos current. The reason for this is that you will accrue a large amount of dark oxides which should not be disturbed during manufacturing. If they get into the sol (colloid) then the ions coming of the electrode will then stick to those chunks and your sol will bottom out much quicker, the particles also being less therapeutically beneficial as they will be getting so large to the point where they will just not be able to pass inside cell tissue and kill pathogens, also creating more possibility of argyria skin discolouration, though that can be lessened or even removed with selenium supplementation to chelate it from the skin I read. The regular changing of polarity will just push a load of muck into the distilled water and act as a magnet for the smaller groups of ions to stick to. With best wishes, Dave On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 1:32 AM, HARSHA GODAVARI h.godav...@shaw.ca wrote: I am considering using this to make colloidal silver. I like the idea of reversing polarity because it will slow down a build_up of CS near one electrode and both electrodes (hopefully) wear evenly. Also I have one of these around and it will save a bit for the time being :-) Are there any cons ( pros) to this notion. I would appreciate your thoughts on this. Thank you. regards hg
Re: CSBeck blood purifier
Reversing polarity of the electrodes while making CS is an effective and widely used method of decreasing buildup of silver and oxides of silver on the electrodes. I have made thousands of gallons of CS, and I reverse every minute, on a two minute cycle. Reversing eliminates the dark oxides because the electrode which forms the oxide is exposed to monoatomic hydrogen during the next half cycle, and the hydrogen immediately reacts with the oxide reducing the silver oxide to silver. Also any silver powder that accumulates on an electrode, either by reduction of silver oxide, or by deposition of silver from the solution, goes back out on the next half cycle as well. The result is electrodes which stay amazingly clean and never need to be cleaned. I can typically make several thousand gallons of CS on a set of electrodes and have never ever had to clean them. Also I have never witnessed any silver oxide coming loose due to polarity switching. If any were to come loose it would be from the stirring of the water, not a polarity switch. Marshall On 10/10/2012 6:31 PM, D B wrote: The idea of reversing polarity during the manufacturing process is a very bad idea and obvious design flaw. Far better to select one electrode, and make a mark at the top with a pair of pliers, then simply connect it to positive one run , then negative the next, keeping note of dates you use the marked electrode with neg or pos current. The reason for this is that you will accrue a large amount of dark oxides which should not be disturbed during manufacturing. If they get into the sol (colloid) then the ions coming of the electrode will then stick to those chunks and your sol will bottom out much quicker, the particles also being less therapeutically beneficial as they will be getting so large to the point where they will just not be able to pass inside cell tissue and kill pathogens, also creating more possibility of argyria skin discolouration, though that can be lessened or even removed with selenium supplementation to chelate it from the skin I read. The regular changing of polarity will just push a load of muck into the distilled water and act as a magnet for the smaller groups of ions to stick to. With best wishes, Dave On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 1:32 AM, HARSHA GODAVARI h.godav...@shaw.ca mailto:h.godav...@shaw.ca wrote: I am considering using this to make colloidal silver. I like the idea of reversing polarity because it will slow down a build_up of CS near one electrode and both electrodes (hopefully) wear evenly. Also I have one of these around and it will save a bit for the time being :-) Are there any cons ( pros) to this notion. I would appreciate your thoughts on this. Thank you. regards hg No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1427 / Virus Database: 2441/5322 - Release Date: 10/10/12
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... I second that, Marshall... hundreds of gallons of EIS using reverse polarity, producing nothing but a high quality product. ~Jason - Original Message - From: Marshall To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 15:44 Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier Reversing polarity of the electrodes while making CS is an effective and widely used method of decreasing buildup of silver and oxides of silver on the electrodes. I have made thousands of gallons of CS, and I reverse every minute, on a two minute cycle. Reversing eliminates the dark oxides because the electrode which forms the oxide is exposed to monoatomic hydrogen during the next half cycle, and the hydrogen immediately reacts with the oxide reducing the silver oxide to silver. Also any silver powder that accumulates on an electrode, either by reduction of silver oxide, or by deposition of silver from the solution, goes back out on the next half cycle as well. The result is electrodes which stay amazingly clean and never need to be cleaned. I can typically make several thousand gallons of CS on a set of electrodes and have never ever had to clean them. Also I have never witnessed any silver oxide coming loose due to polarity switching. If any were to come loose it would be from the stirring of the water, not a polarity switch. Marshall On 10/10/2012 6:31 PM, D B wrote: The idea of reversing polarity during the manufacturing process is a very bad idea and obvious design flaw. Far better to select one electrode, and make a mark at the top with a pair of pliers, then simply connect it to positive one run , then negative the next, keeping note of dates you use the marked electrode with neg or pos current. The reason for this is that you will accrue a large amount of dark oxides which should not be disturbed during manufacturing. If they get into the sol (colloid) then the ions coming of the electrode will then stick to those chunks and your sol will bottom out much quicker, the particles also being less therapeutically beneficial as they will be getting so large to the point where they will just not be able to pass inside cell tissue and kill pathogens, also creating more possibility of argyria skin discolouration, though that can be lessened or even removed with selenium supplementation to chelate it from the skin I read. The regular changing of polarity will just push a load of muck into the distilled water and act as a magnet for the smaller groups of ions to stick to. With best wishes, Dave On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 1:32 AM, HARSHA GODAVARI h.godav...@shaw.ca wrote: I am considering using this to make colloidal silver. I like the idea of reversing polarity because it will slow down a build_up of CS near one electrode and both electrodes (hopefully) wear evenly. Also I have one of these around and it will save a bit for the time being :-) Are there any cons ( pros) to this notion. I would appreciate your thoughts on this. Thank you. regards hg No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1427 / Virus Database: 2441/5322 - Release Date: 10/10/12
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Thank you Marshall for clarifying the problem. When I used 3 (x9v) batteries to make my CS and was too lazy to stirr the solution I did get the black oxides. Two things happened, the batteries and my electrodes vanished some how ( I suspect some protector of the nation from 90 year old ladie's prosthetics and/or two pieces of silver wire :-) ) I have a Beck purifier thats not being used ( I have a vague notion that not using a useful item is a sin) I see no reason why it can't be used instead of my three, naked batteries. This Beck purifier also uses 3 x 9v batteries for its power source, only they are enclosed in a box . Nice to hear from you. regards hg - Original Message - From: Marshall mdud...@king-cart.com Date: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 5:46 pm Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier To: silver-list@eskimo.com Reversing polarity of the electrodes while making CS is an effective and widely used method of decreasing buildup of silver and oxides of silver on the electrodes. I have made thousands of gallons of CS, and I reverse every minute, on a two minute cycle. Reversing eliminates the dark oxides because the electrode which forms the oxide is exposed to monoatomic hydrogen during the next half cycle, and the hydrogen immediately reacts with the oxide reducing the silver oxide to silver. Also any silver powder that accumulates on an electrode, either by reduction of silver oxide, or by deposition of silver from the solution, goes back out on the next half cycle as well. The result is electrodes which stay amazingly clean and never need to be cleaned. I can typically make several thousand gallons of CS on a set of electrodes and have never ever had to clean them. Also I have never witnessed any silver oxide coming loose due to polarity switching. If any were to come loose it would be from the stirring of the water, not a polarity switch. Marshall On 10/10/2012 6:31 PM, D B wrote: The idea of reversing polarity during the manufacturing process is a very bad idea and obvious design flaw. Far better to select one electrode, and make a mark at the top with a pair of pliers, then simply connect it to positive one run , then negative the next, keeping note of dates you use the marked electrode with neg or pos current. The reason for this is that you will accrue a large amount of dark oxides which should not be disturbed during manufacturing. If they get into the sol (colloid) then the ions coming of the electrode will then stick to those chunks and your sol will bottom out much quicker, the particles also being less therapeutically beneficial as they will be getting so large to the point where they will just not be able to pass inside cell tissue and kill pathogens, also creating more possibility of argyria skin discolouration, though that can be lessened or even removed with selenium supplementation to chelate it from the skin I read. The regular changing of polarity will just push a load of muck into the distilled water and act as a magnet for the smaller groups of ions to stick to. With best wishes, Dave On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 1:32 AM, HARSHA GODAVARI h.godav...@shaw.ca mailto:h.godav...@shaw.ca wrote: I am considering using this to make colloidal silver. I like the idea of reversing polarity because it will slow down a build_up of CS near one electrode and both electrodes (hopefully) wear evenly. Also I have one of these around and it will save a bit for the time being :-) Are there any cons ( pros) to this notion. I would appreciate your thoughts on this. Thank you. regards hg No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1427 / Virus Database: 2441/5322 - Release Date: 10/10/12
RE: CSBeck blood purifier
I also won't entertain the idea of auto polarity reversal for the same reason Dave stated, but then I'm not a commercial enterprise. If I was selling the stuff, then I would have to consider that option due to production volumes and time. Something must go somewhere off those electrodes and the only place that 'something' can go is back into the water, however, it won't be immediately observable due to that polarity reversal switching back and forth. If they are not removed and cleaned at regular timed intervals to minimise that 'something' being dispersed in the water, then whatever comes off those electrodes will remain circulating in the water and end up at the bottom of the storage vessel after gravity has done its thing. @ Marshall...Do you ever decant or filter...Yes/No? N. Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 18:44:16 -0400 From: mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier Reversing polarity of the electrodes while making CS is an effective and widely used method of decreasing buildup of silver and oxides of silver on the electrodes. I have made thousands of gallons of CS, and I reverse every minute, on a two minute cycle. Reversing eliminates the dark oxides because the electrode which forms the oxide is exposed to monoatomic hydrogen during the next half cycle, and the hydrogen immediately reacts with the oxide reducing the silver oxide to silver. Also any silver powder that accumulates on an electrode, either by reduction of silver oxide, or by deposition of silver from the solution, goes back out on the next half cycle as well. The result is electrodes which stay amazingly clean and never need to be cleaned. I can typically make several thousand gallons of CS on a set of electrodes and have never ever had to clean them. Also I have never witnessed any silver oxide coming loose due to polarity switching. If any were to come loose it would be from the stirring of the water, not a polarity switch. Marshall On 10/10/2012 6:31 PM, D B wrote: The idea of reversing polarity during the manufacturing process is a very bad idea and obvious design flaw. Far better to select one electrode, and make a mark at the top with a pair of pliers, then simply connect it to positive one run , then negative the next, keeping note of dates you use the marked electrode with neg or pos current. The reason for this is that you will accrue a large amount of dark oxides which should not be disturbed during manufacturing. If they get into the sol (colloid) then the ions coming of the electrode will then stick to those chunks and your sol will bottom out much quicker, the particles also being less therapeutically beneficial as they will be getting so large to the point where they will just not be able to pass inside cell tissue and kill pathogens, also creating more possibility of argyria skin discolouration, though that can be lessened or even removed with selenium supplementation to chelate it from the skin I read. The regular changing of polarity will just push a load of muck into the distilled water and act as a magnet for the smaller groups of ions to stick to. With best wishes, Dave On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 1:32 AM, HARSHA GODAVARI h.godav...@shaw.ca wrote: I am considering using this to make colloidal silver. I like the idea of reversing polarity because it will slow down a build_up of CS near one electrode and both electrodes (hopefully) wear evenly. Also I have one of these around and it will save a bit for the time being :-) Are there any cons ( pros) to this notion. I would appreciate your thoughts on this. Thank you. regards hg No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1427 / Virus Database: 2441/5322 - Release Date: 10/10/12
Re: CSBeck blood purifier
I don't filter, but the system automatically decants since it pulls the water from the top. Marshall On 10/10/2012 11:31 PM, Neville Munn wrote: I also won't entertain the idea of auto polarity reversal for the same reason Dave stated, but then I'm not a commercial enterprise. If I was selling the stuff, then I would have to consider that option due to production volumes and time. Something must go somewhere off those electrodes and the only place that 'something' can go is back into the water, however, it won't be immediately observable due to that polarity reversal switching back and forth. If they are not removed and cleaned at regular timed intervals to minimise that 'something' being dispersed in the water, then whatever comes off those electrodes will remain circulating in the water and end up at the bottom of the storage vessel after gravity has done its thing. @ Marshall...Do you ever decant or filter...Yes/No? N. Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 18:44:16 -0400 From: mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier Reversing polarity of the electrodes while making CS is an effective and widely used method of decreasing buildup of silver and oxides of silver on the electrodes. I have made thousands of gallons of CS, and I reverse every minute, on a two minute cycle. Reversing eliminates the dark oxides because the electrode which forms the oxide is exposed to monoatomic hydrogen during the next half cycle, and the hydrogen immediately reacts with the oxide reducing the silver oxide to silver. Also any silver powder that accumulates on an electrode, either by reduction of silver oxide, or by deposition of silver from the solution, goes back out on the next half cycle as well. The result is electrodes which stay amazingly clean and never need to be cleaned. I can typically make several thousand gallons of CS on a set of electrodes and have never ever had to clean them. Also I have never witnessed any silver oxide coming loose due to polarity switching. If any were to come loose it would be from the stirring of the water, not a polarity switch. Marshall On 10/10/2012 6:31 PM, D B wrote: The idea of reversing polarity during the manufacturing process is a very bad idea and obvious design flaw. Far better to select one electrode, and make a mark at the top with a pair of pliers, then simply connect it to positive one run , then negative the next, keeping note of dates you use the marked electrode with neg or pos current. The reason for this is that you will accrue a large amount of dark oxides which should not be disturbed during manufacturing. If they get into the sol (colloid) then the ions coming of the electrode will then stick to those chunks and your sol will bottom out much quicker, the particles also being less therapeutically beneficial as they will be getting so large to the point where they will just not be able to pass inside cell tissue and kill pathogens, also creating more possibility of argyria skin discolouration, though that can be lessened or even removed with selenium supplementation to chelate it from the skin I read. The regular changing of polarity will just push a load of muck into the distilled water and act as a magnet for the smaller groups of ions to stick to. With best wishes, Dave On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 1:32 AM, HARSHA GODAVARI h.godav...@shaw.ca mailto:h.godav...@shaw.ca wrote: I am considering using this to make colloidal silver. I like the idea of reversing polarity because it will slow down a build_up of CS near one electrode and both electrodes (hopefully) wear evenly. Also I have one of these around and it will save a bit for the time being :-) Are there any cons ( pros) to this notion. I would appreciate your thoughts on this. Thank you. regards hg No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1427 / Virus Database: 2441/5322 - Release Date: 10/10/12 No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1427 / Virus Database: 2441/5322 - Release Date: 10/10/12
CSBeck blood purifier
I am considering using this to make colloidal silver. I like the idea of reversing polarity because it will slow down a build_up of CS near one electrode and both electrodes (hopefully) wear evenly. Also I have one of these around and it will save a bit for the time being :-) Are there any cons ( pros) to this notion. I would appreciate your thoughts on this. Thank you. regards hg
