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Marshall Dudley wrote: How does one measure their iron? Do you have to go to the doctor to get it done? Marshall, Where I live there are two health fairs a year, and you can have them do a ferritin test (forget if that is what they call it) as well as other blood tests, simple breathing tests, and a few other things. Very inexpensive. I don't know if these fairs are common elsewhere, but they are a really great deal. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Marshall writes: How does one measure their iron? Do you have to go to the doctor to get it done? You or your doctor have to ask the blood lab to measure your ferritin levels. It's an available test, but not usually part of the routine blood test package. Ferritin is a large, cage-like molecule that is used by the body to transport otherwise unbound iron. There is supposedly a pretty steady ratio between stored iron and circulating ferritin levels. At least that's what I remember reading. Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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How does one measure their iron? Do you have to go to the doctor to get it done? Marshall M. G. Devour wrote: Marshal, Thanks for the link. Confirms there's not a really good iron chelator known yet. Carol Ann, Totally independent of hemochromatosis, I've read that most males and post menopausal women will tend to accumulate unhealthly levels of iron in their tissues because of the indiscriminate use of iron supplements in wheat flour and other foodstuffs in our conventional diets, and the fact that our bodies have virtually no mechanism for eliminating iron except bleeding. Blood ferritin levels are an indirect measure of the total burden of stored iron in our tissues. Back when I made my first efforts at carb restriction, about 2001-2, I also began a program of regular blood donations. I brought my measured ferritin levels down from almost 4 times what is considered healthy to about twice normal over a period of half a year or so, based on my last blood tests from that period. It is the stored iron that becomes free radicals when tissues are traumatized, that does the greater part of the damage in heart attacks, for example. There are also supposed to be a laundry list of other symptoms of iron overload, which I haven't looked into closely. I may be misinformed, but as far as I know iron overload is not limited to people with hemochromatosis. Be well, Mike D. Mike, Most men and women who donate blood for the reasons you mention do not have : Haemochromatosis, also spelled hemochromatosis, is a hereditary disease characterized by improper processing by the body of dietary iron which causes iron to accumulate in a number of body tissues, eventually causing organ dysfunction. It is the main iron overload disorder. As to the origination and continued practice of blood letting see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloodletting Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: Article on iron chelation: http://sickle.bwh.harvard.edu/chelators.html Marshall [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Marshal, Thanks for the link. Confirms there's not a really good iron chelator known yet. Carol Ann, Totally independent of hemochromatosis, I've read that most males and post menopausal women will tend to accumulate unhealthly levels of iron in their tissues because of the indiscriminate use of iron supplements in wheat flour and other foodstuffs in our conventional diets, and the fact that our bodies have virtually no mechanism for eliminating iron except bleeding. Blood ferritin levels are an indirect measure of the total burden of stored iron in our tissues. Back when I made my first efforts at carb restriction, about 2001-2, I also began a program of regular blood donations. I brought my measured ferritin levels down from almost 4 times what is considered healthy to about twice normal over a period of half a year or so, based on my last blood tests from that period. It is the stored iron that becomes free radicals when tissues are traumatized, that does the greater part of the damage in heart attacks, for example. There are also supposed to be a laundry list of other symptoms of iron overload, which I haven't looked into closely. I may be misinformed, but as far as I know iron overload is not limited to people with hemochromatosis. Be well, Mike D. Mike, Most men and women who donate blood for the reasons you mention do not have : Haemochromatosis, also spelled hemochromatosis, is a hereditary disease characterized by improper processing by the body of dietary iron which causes iron to accumulate in a number of body tissues, eventually causing organ dysfunction. It is the main iron overload disorder. As to the origination and continued practice of blood letting see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloodletting Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: Article on iron chelation: http://sickle.bwh.harvard.edu/chelators.html Marshall [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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I think maybe the use of ritual symbolism is a step in dissolving a traditional *activity* similar to, The You are what you eat, so eat tiger hearts idea. Often an enemies heart or liver would be eaten to absorb the enemies fierceness...a high compliment and show of respect. It has been said that Custers ears were cut off so he'd be reminded to listen in the afterlife. [ Wouldn't he need them to hear? ] I suppose today they'd drive hearing aids in with a hammer and they didn't think of Bison horns back then. Some societies still eat small portions of their dead relatives as a way to assimilate and preserve their memory. That's not cannibalism per sey as the intent is not food oriented. There may be a connection to a similar activity with the Jews and their Christian offshoots lost in time and prehistory but seen reflected as the wafer and goblet of wine tradition of the Eucharist. The actual activity may have also occurred with a completely different society and only the symbolic ritual transferred or copied...that is, I'm not saying that any descendents of Jews ever actually consumed any large or small portion their dead. [Nor am I passing any judgement on those who did or still do.] Smoke is both ritually and actually considered to be a connection to the heavenly beingness by various societies both past and present. Eastern societies sometimes burn favorite articles that belonged to loved ones or even send them [symbolic] money that way. The Jews did have a number of symbolic rituals such as attaching diseases to pigs and driving them out of town. Scape-goating is almost universal. Before Moses came along, burning sacrifice was the common thing to do. [maybe after Moses too ] Jesus made many concessions to traditions he disagreed with and he disagreed with many. One was the tradition of only favored guests drinking wine at a wedding party. He let everyone drink wine, [a typical Jesus thing that would fit the philosophy perfectly ] hence, Turning water into wine Some say he could buck the system that way because it was his wedding party. It was still odd enough to become widely noted and gossiped about. Jesus was just typically odd, for that time ... and much misunderstood. The Red Cross may have been expecting a lot of seriously injured survivors on 9/11. It took a while to realize there weren't any. ..or a war. At any rate, they chose preparedness...and they're always begging for blood for any reason they can think of to promote the giving of it, no matter what might be going on. No big suprise. ode At 03:17 PM 7/8/2006 -0700, you wrote: Hi Ode, Really enjoy your posts. :) This particular one triggered the remembrance of something I heard in the evening of 9/11. Red Cross was all over the place televising requests for blood donations. Featured was mrs bush as one of the reps. She said something repeatedly that almost floored me. . The Red Cross via ms bush was telling people to donate vast amounts of blood, would it be badly needed. What was said was that it could be frozen. Immediately called a doctor friend to verify that some new blood process was not on the market. My thoughts was what the heck are they gonna do with all that blood? Why is it needed. There was supposedly no shortage at the time...my Brother, a Lieutenant worked the site as a paramedic and at the local hospitals who received the wounded. . I'm just wonder en Ode. Do you think that the darker side of mankind has become enlightened over the eons? That the rituals including those of blood use of yore days gone by have been completely wiped from patterned memory and consciousness. Symbols..some folks use em, mostly the ones who don't have the real thingothers use the real thing whenever available. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/383 - Release Date: 7/7/2006 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Ode, True, That the RED CROSS may have been expecting greater causalities or seriously injured survivors is being linked directly to the govts direct role as a 9/11 participant. As to a War...justified or not, Americans certainly got one, didn't they :) As to begging for blood for any reason to promote the giving of blood. When considering the history and how RC began as an organization, H. Interesting choice of words... Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net wrote:I The Red Cross may have been expecting a lot of seriously injured survivors on 9/11. It took a while to realize there weren't any. ..or a war. At any rate, they chose preparedness...and they're always begging for blood for any reason they can think of to promote the giving of it, no matter what might be going on. No big suprise. ode At 03:17 PM 7/8/2006 -0700, you wrote: Carol Ann ~Those who dared to dance were thought to be quite insane by those who could not hear the music ~ Visit: http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/action.shtml - Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min.
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Article on iron chelation: http://sickle.bwh.harvard.edu/chelators.html Marshall M. G. Devour wrote: And on that (sour) note, let's not discuss the esoterica of the origins of the Red Cross or other items *NOT RELEVANT* to the health-related discussions at hand. Whether the blood I donate this week ends up in the belly of a blood drinking cultist somewhere, or, more likely, the veins of a hospital patient, perhaps saving their life, I don't much care. I've been told it's healthy for most men and post-menopausal women to donate blood to reduce their iron burden from the excessive iron supplementation of processed foods in our diets, which was the point of the reference in the first place. Religion and politics are not the subject of the Silver List. Civil discussions of same may be taken to our Off Topic list. Be well, Mike Devour silver-list owner At 04:19 PM 7/7/2006 -0600, you wrote: The Red Cross was created by the very dynasties said to be ritual blood drinkers. Would that be Christians? [Rosycrutions?] Therefore, the Red Cross are, today, organized vampires fattening people up, no one ever gets a transfusion and a blood bank is a food store house...oh my. Christians are also ritual cannibals...but they only eat the flesh of Jesus. Ode -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/383 - Release Date: 7/7/2006 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ]
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Mike, Most men and women who donate blood for the reasons you mention do not have : Haemochromatosis, also spelled hemochromatosis, is a hereditary disease characterized by improper processing by the body of dietary iron which causes iron to accumulate in a number of body tissues, eventually causing organ dysfunction. It is the main iron overload disorder. As to the origination and continued practice of blood letting see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloodletting Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: Article on iron chelation: http://sickle.bwh.harvard.edu/chelators.html Marshall M. G. Devour wrote: And on that (sour) note, let's not discuss the esoterica of the origins of the Red Cross or other items *NOT RELEVANT* to the health-related discussions at hand. Whether the blood I donate this week ends up in the belly of a blood drinking cultist somewhere, or, more likely, the veins of a hospital patient, perhaps saving their life, I don't much care. I've been told it's healthy for most men and post-menopausal women to donate blood to reduce their iron burden from the excessive iron supplementation of processed foods in our diets, which was the point of the reference in the first place. Religion and politics are not the subject of the Silver List. Civil discussions of same may be taken to our Off Topic list. Be well, Mike Devour silver-list owner At 04:19 PM 7/7/2006 -0600, you wrote: The Red Cross was created by the very dynasties said to be ritual blood drinkers. Would that be Christians? [Rosycrutions?] Therefore, the Red Cross are, today, organized vampires fattening people up, no one ever gets a transfusion and a blood bank is a food store house...oh my. Christians are also ritual cannibals...but they only eat the flesh of Jesus. Ode -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/383 - Release Date: 7/7/2006 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] Carol Ann ~Those who dared to dance were thought to be quite insane by those who could not hear the music ~ Visit: http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/action.shtml - Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min.
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The Red Cross via Mrs Bush was telling people to donate vast amounts of blood, would it be badly needed. What was said was that it could be frozen. Immediately called a doctor friend to verify that some new blood process was not on the market. Actually, I believe the plasma (serum, or liquid part of blood with blood cells and maybe platelets filtered out) can be frozen up to a year. So not some vampiric feast, as intimated... There exists a law, not written down...but inborn in our hearts; a law which comes to us...from nature itself... not from theory but from practice, not by instruction but by natural intuition. I refer to the law which lays it down that, if our lives are endangered... any and every method of protecting ourselves is morally right. - Cicero Mark S Siepak -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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What stunned me was that mrs. bush said repeatedly, the blood could be frozen for up to 10 years. At first, I thought what I heard was wrong, or that it was a mistake, until it was repeated several times. Here is some little publicized info as to what happened with the sea of blood collected for most of the victims who would never need it because they were already dead.And Red Cross knew they had no process by which to preserve the blood when they called for the donations. In the end, the excess was BURNED. This article is dated Nov, 2001. Excerpts. The charitable outpouring offered an opportunity for the $2.5 billion-a-year organization to restock its depleted blood inventory. Although the Red Cross told the public that surplus blood would be frozen, it did not have the resources to freeze large amounts of excess blood, according to documents and interviews Fresh blood donated Sept. 11 reached the end of its shelf life Oct. 23. Blood donated Sept. 30 will hit its expiration date today. When blood becomes outdated, it is useless and must be burned. At my center, a Red Cross director said, we have all of this surplus blood that is only now starting to outdate. We don't have the supplies to freeze it. There's no place to ship it. What do they think is going to happen? We can't create a need for it that isn't there. Reference. http://www.commondreams.org/headlines01/-03.htm additional excerpts. Experts say it takes time, manpower and equipment to gear up for a major freezing program. You just don't decide to freeze 100,000 units of blood, said Celso Bianco, a physician and executive vice president of America's Blood Centers. You need to have a good plan and time and money. It's very labor-intensive. Gilcher, in Oklahoma City, said the Red Cross was irresponsible in the message that was 'given' to the American people by saying 'donate blood and money' and implying that the American Red Cross would freeze that blood. The Red Cross declined to disclose how much of the extra hundreds of thousands of pints collected since Sept. 11 were frozen. An inventory that one Red Cross director saw showed that about 8,000 units of blood had been frozen between Sept. 11 and mid-October, which suggests that large-scale freezing had not happened by that time. Kubina disputed that account, saying 8,000 is wrong, but would not offer specifics. She said some blood collected just after Sept. 11 has been frozen, but acknowledged that most of the proposed reserve would come from donations being made now and later. The Red Cross approached the FDA on Sept. 14 for approval of procedures for freezing and thawing a large reserve, which it proposed keeping at six sites. State-of-the-art technology enables frozen blood to be used for up to 14 days after thawing. The thawing method the Red Cross cleared with the FDA on Oct. 1 requires thawed blood to be used within 24 hours, which poses a greater challenge in moving blood from scattered stockpiles to a disaster spot. Mark S. Siepak bro...@gtcinternet.com wrote: The Red Cross via Mrs Bush was telling people to donate vast amounts of blood, would it be badly needed. What was said was that it could be frozen. Immediately called a doctor friend to verify that some new blood process was not on the market. Actually, I believe the plasma (serum, or liquid part of blood with blood cells and maybe platelets filtered out) can be frozen up to a year. So not some vampiric feast, as intimated... There exists a law, not written down...but inborn in our hearts; a law which comes to us...from nature itself... not from theory but from practice, not by instruction but by natural intuition. I refer to the law which lays it down that, if our lives are endangered... any and every method of protecting ourselves is morally right. - Cicero Mark S Siepak -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour Carol Ann ~Those who dared to dance were thought to be quite insane by those who could not hear the music ~ Visit: http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/action.shtml - How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messengers low PC-to-Phone call rates.
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And on that (sour) note, let's not discuss the esoterica of the origins of the Red Cross or other items *NOT RELEVANT* to the health-related discussions at hand. Whether the blood I donate this week ends up in the belly of a blood drinking cultist somewhere, or, more likely, the veins of a hospital patient, perhaps saving their life, I don't much care. I've been told it's healthy for most men and post-menopausal women to donate blood to reduce their iron burden from the excessive iron supplementation of processed foods in our diets, which was the point of the reference in the first place. Religion and politics are not the subject of the Silver List. Civil discussions of same may be taken to our Off Topic list. Be well, Mike Devour silver-list owner At 04:19 PM 7/7/2006 -0600, you wrote: The Red Cross was created by the very dynasties said to be ritual blood drinkers. Would that be Christians? [Rosycrutions?] Therefore, the Red Cross are, today, organized vampires fattening people up, no one ever gets a transfusion and a blood bank is a food store house...oh my. Christians are also ritual cannibals...but they only eat the flesh of Jesus. Ode -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/383 - Release Date: 7/7/2006 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ]
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At 04:19 PM 7/7/2006 -0600, you wrote: The Red Cross was created by the very dynasties said to be ritual blood drinkers. Would that be Christians? [Rosycrutions?] Therefore, the Red Cross are, today, organized vampires fattening people up, no one ever gets a transfusion and a blood bank is a food store house...oh my. Christians are also ritual cannibals...but they only eat the flesh of Jesus. Ode -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/383 - Release Date: 7/7/2006 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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no one ever gets a transfusion and a blood bank is a food store house...oh my. Are there publically verified published records of how much blood is collected, and where it goes? -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@alltel.net] Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2006 9:26 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSBlood typing, was Re: CSThis man's best freind At 04:19 PM 7/7/2006 -0600, you wrote: The Red Cross was created by the very dynasties said to be ritual blood drinkers. Would that be Christians? [Rosycrutions?] Therefore, the Red Cross are, today, organized vampires fattening people up, no one ever gets a transfusion and a blood bank is a food store house...oh my. Christians are also ritual cannibals...but they only eat the flesh of Jesus. Ode -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/383 - Release Date: 7/7/2006 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hi Ode, Really enjoy your posts. :) This particular one triggered the remembrance of something I heard in the evening of 9/11. Red Cross was all over the place televising requests for blood donations. Featured was mrs bush as one of the reps. She said something repeatedly that almost floored me. . The Red Cross via ms bush was telling people to donate vast amounts of blood, would it be badly needed. What was said was that it could be frozen. Immediately called a doctor friend to verify that some new blood process was not on the market. My thoughts was what the heck are they gonna do with all that blood? Why is it needed. There was supposedly no shortage at the time...my Brother, a Lieutenant worked the site as a paramedic and at the local hospitals who received the wounded. . I'm just wonder en Ode. Do you think that the darker side of mankind has become enlightened over the eons? That the rituals including those of blood use of yore days gone by have been completely wiped from patterned memory and consciousness. Symbols..some folks use em, mostly the ones who don't have the real thingothers use the real thing whenever available. Jim Holmes ami...@starband.net wrote: no one ever gets a transfusion and a blood bank is a food store house...oh my. Are there publically verified published records of how much blood is collected, and where it goes? -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@alltel.net] Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2006 9:26 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSBlood typing, was Re: CSThis man's best freind At 04:19 PM 7/7/2006 -0600, you wrote: The Red Cross was created by the very dynasties said to be ritual blood drinkers. Would that be Christians? [Rosycrutions?] Therefore, the Red Cross are, today, organized vampires fattening people up, no one ever gets a transfusion and a blood bank is a food store house...oh my. Christians are also ritual cannibals...but they only eat the flesh of Jesus. Ode -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/383 - Release Date: 7/7/2006 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour Carol Ann ~Those who dared to dance were thought to be quite insane by those who could not hear the music ~ Visit: http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/action.shtml - Want to be your own boss? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business.
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Isn't giving blood supposed to be really good for you too?...debbie -- Original message -- From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com Thanks, very interesting. I've been told if I donate blood to the red cross they will type my blood. I just think it might come in handy to know someday. My husband knows his because (as you say) it is on his dog tags from his military service. sol Mark S. Siepak wrote: If you have had major surgery that would require more than a couple of units (pints) of serum (which I don't think needs to be typed), your type is done then, but not recorded permanently. A lot of the 'public' are in condition white, ie, unaware of what is going on or important in the world, and would not really remember their type, but blurt out something so they won't look stupid, then if it is wrong and there is a problem, sue! So they won't tell you, so it has to be done every time you may need blood (you can lose a couple pints which can be replaced by serum only-no blood cells or platelets). Exception is the military, and they don't trust memory either, it is on the dog tag. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
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Probably depends on you. If you have that problem where you accumulate iron in your blood, it could be life saving. If you are badly anemic it could be deadly. Marshall debbiegerar...@comcast.net wrote: Isn't giving blood supposed to be really good for you too?...debbie -- Original message -- From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com Thanks, very interesting. I've been told if I donate blood to the red cross they will type my blood. I just think it might come in handy to know someday. My husband knows his because (as you say) it is on his dog tags from his military service. sol Mark S. Siepak wrote: If you have had major surgery that would require more than a couple of units (pints) of serum (which I don't think needs to be typed), your type is done then, but not recorded permanently. A lot of the 'public' are in condition white, ie, unaware of what is going on or important in the world, and would not really remember their type, but blurt out something so they ! won't l ook stupid, then if it is wrong and there is a problem, sue! So they won't tell you, so it has to be done every time you may need blood (you can lose a couple pints which can be replaced by serum only-no blood cells or platelets). Exception is the military, and they don't trust memory either, it is on the dog tag. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
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So far as I know it is, particularly for men and post-menopausal women in the U.S. at least, as it reduces the level of iron in the blood, which most americans have too much of apparently. sol debbiegerar...@comcast.net wrote: Isn't giving blood supposed to be really good for you too?...debbie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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The Red Cross was created by the very dynasties said to be ritual blood drinkers. There would be more interesting info in the blank space, but it is censored to protect those who cannot stand truth. From: debbiegerar...@comcast.net [mailto:debbiegerar...@comcast.net] Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 12:54 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBlood typing, was Re: CSThis man's best freind Isn't giving blood supposed to be really good for you too?...debbie -- Original message -- From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com Thanks, very interesting. I've been told if I donate blood to the red cross they will type my blood. I just think it might come in handy to know someday. My husband knows his because (as you say) it is on his dog tags from his military service. sol Mark S. Siepak wrote: If you have had major surgery that would require more than a couple of units (pints) of serum (which I don't think needs to be typed), your type is done then, but not recorded permanently. A lot of the 'public' are in condition white, ie, unaware of what is going on or important in the world, and would not really remember their type, but blurt out something so they ! won't l ook stupid, then if it is wrong and there is a problem, sue! So they won't tell you, so it has to be done every time you may need blood (you can lose a couple pints which can be replaced by serum only-no blood cells or platelets). Exception is the military, and they don't trust memory either, it is on the dog tag. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
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I tried to find out my blood type a while back and was astounded to find that it is not routinely done anymore. I have had several major and minor surgeries at the local hospital over the years, and they never typed my blood and do not have it in my records. None of the local health fairs that do blood tests do typing either. Is this strange? sol Mark S. Siepak wrote: Human blood typing is done the same way. The types are: A, B, AB, and O, with O being universal donor (other blood types will accept without problems most of the time), and AB being universal recipient (will accept blood from any of the other types without problems most of the time). -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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If you have had major surgery that would require more than a couple of units (pints) of serum (which I don't think needs to be typed), your type is done then, but not recorded permanently. A lot of the 'public' are in condition white, ie, unaware of what is going on or important in the world, and would not really remember their type, but blurt out something so they won't look stupid, then if it is wrong and there is a problem, sue! So they won't tell you, so it has to be done every time you may need blood (you can lose a couple pints which can be replaced by serum only-no blood cells or platelets). Exception is the military, and they don't trust memory either, it is on the dog tag. Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon the act of depriving a whole nation of arms, as the blackest. Mahatma Gandhi - Mark S. Siepak -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Thanks, very interesting. I've been told if I donate blood to the red cross they will type my blood. I just think it might come in handy to know someday. My husband knows his because (as you say) it is on his dog tags from his military service. sol Mark S. Siepak wrote: If you have had major surgery that would require more than a couple of units (pints) of serum (which I don't think needs to be typed), your type is done then, but not recorded permanently. A lot of the 'public' are in condition white, ie, unaware of what is going on or important in the world, and would not really remember their type, but blurt out something so they won't look stupid, then if it is wrong and there is a problem, sue! So they won't tell you, so it has to be done every time you may need blood (you can lose a couple pints which can be replaced by serum only-no blood cells or platelets). Exception is the military, and they don't trust memory either, it is on the dog tag. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
