Re: CSCS and cancer treatment

2015-08-23 Thread John A Venturini
You need to stop all foods that either feeds cancer (sugar) or creates  a 
environment  for is to multiple. You need to keep your body Alkaline, not 
acidic. cancer thrives in acid bodies, it can't live in a alkaline body. Raw 
diet with fruits and vegetables are a must. give up all acidic foods.   
Wheatgrass juice has been use by Ann Wigmore to cure cancer. Google Ann 
Wigmore and go to wheatgrasskits.com to buy everything you need to grow your 
own. Also essaic tea had work for many in Canada.    


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Re: CSCS and cancer treatment

2015-08-23 Thread Lola Harris
I am a 17 yr survivor of bladder cancer and 10 yr survivor of breast cancer... 
refused chemo and radiation in both
instances.  Not recommending that for anyone else.  Just my personal choice.  
Took Avemar, MGN 3, AHCC-
Immpower, Noni (fresh from Hawaii), practiced Spring Forest Qigong religiously 
the first 5 - 6 yrs (nothing after
the bladder cancer).  Cleaned house and hygience products of all commercial 
products/toxins, eat as organically
as I can afford, country well water and eat 'Zone' in order to control blood 
sugar spikes and avoid sugar, high
glycemic foods.
 
I now cycle thru several alternatives a few times per year for maintenance, 
none of which are considered 'heavy hitters'.
I tend to like alternatives that have some science behind them.
Lola


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To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, 23 Aug 2015 17:17:14 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: CSCS and cancer treatment



Formula F3  BSF helps a lot, Bio Algae Concentrate:
http://www.bionutrition.ca/eng/product/


2015-08-23 20:55 GMT+02:00 John A Venturini johnventur...@frontier.com:




You need to stop all foods that either feeds cancer (sugar) or creates  a 
environment  for is to multiple. You need to keep your body Alkaline, not 
acidic. cancer thrives in acid bodies, it can't live in a alkaline body. Raw 
diet with fruits and vegetables are a must. give up all acidic foods.   
Wheatgrass juice has been use by Ann Wigmore to cure cancer. Google Ann 
Wigmore and go to wheatgrasskits.com to buy everything you need to grow your 
own. Also essaic tea had work for many in Canada.   








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Re: CSCS and cancer treatment

2015-08-23 Thread Isa M
Formula F3  BSF helps a lot, Bio Algae Concentrate:
http://www.bionutrition.ca/eng/product/

2015-08-23 20:55 GMT+02:00 John A Venturini johnventur...@frontier.com:

 You need to stop all foods that either feeds cancer (sugar) or creates  a
 environment  for is to multiple. You need to keep your body Alkaline, not
 acidic. cancer thrives in acid bodies, it can't live in a alkaline body.
 Raw diet with fruits and vegetables are a must. give up all acidic foods.
 Wheatgrass juice has been use by Ann Wigmore to cure cancer. Google Ann
 Wigmore and go to wheatgrasskits.com to buy everything you need to grow
 your own. Also essaic tea had work for many in Canada.



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Re: CSCS and cancer treatment

2015-08-23 Thread Lola Harris
I forgot to mention that in both instances of cancer, I had surgery to remove 
the tumors.  Whether I 
am just dumb lucky or whether I had skilled surgeons who 'got it all', I don't 
know.  But the immunesystem is key as well as studying, studying, research, 
research.  Rarely does any one protocol work alonewhen using alternatives.  You 
usually need two or three things going on at any given time. And it is 
imperative to know the modality... that is ...  how the protocols work so you 
don't have them cancelling each other out or working at odds with one 
another.Lola
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From: Lola Harris phoenix23...@tds.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, 23 Aug 2015 20:14:36 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: CSCS and cancer treatment

 body {height: 100%; color:#00; font-size:12pt; font-family:times new 
roman, new york, times, serif;}I am a 17 yr survivor of bladder cancer and 10 
yr survivor of breast cancer... refused chemo and radiation in both
instances.  Not recommending that for anyone else.  Just my personal choice.  
Took Avemar, MGN 3, AHCC-Immpower, Noni (fresh from Hawaii), practiced Spring 
Forest Qigong religiously the first 5 - 6 yrs (nothing afterthe bladder 
cancer).  Cleaned house and hygience products of all commercial 
products/toxins, eat as organicallyas I can afford, country well water and eat 
'Zone' in order to control blood sugar spikes and avoid sugar, highglycemic 
foods. I now cycle thru several alternatives a few times per year for 
maintenance, none of which are considered 'heavy hitters'.I tend to like 
alternatives that have some science behind them.Lola
- Original Message -
From: Isa M ipuzzl...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, 23 Aug 2015 17:17:14 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: CSCS and cancer treatment

Formula F3  BSF helps a lot, Bio Algae Concentrate:
http://www.bionutrition.ca/eng/product/
2015-08-23 20:55 GMT+02:00 John A Venturini johnventur...@frontier.com:
You need to stop all foods that either feeds cancer (sugar) or creates  a 
environment  for is to multiple. You need to keep your body Alkaline, not 
acidic. cancer thrives in acid bodies, it can't live in a alkaline body. Raw 
diet with fruits and vegetables are a must. give up all acidic foods.   
Wheatgrass juice has been use by Ann Wigmore to cure cancer. Google Ann 
Wigmore and go to wheatgrasskits.com to buy everything you need to grow your 
own. Also essaic tea had work for many in Canada.   


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Re: CSCS and cancer treatment

2015-08-22 Thread Smitty
Google baking soda and molasses
Smitty

On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 9:41 PM, Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote:

 Broccoli, probiotics, Parent Essential Oils (not fish oils - see Brian
 Peskin) Vitamin D3 and Vitamin K2, iodine, have all been mentioned as
 anti-cancer agents.  A friend of mines husband beat breast cancer using
 such things, and also drinking a pint of CS a day.also eating NO sugar
 as this feeds cancer.  Maybe something like Serrapeptase as well would
 help.Dee

 Sent from my iPad

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Re: CSCS and cancer treatment

2015-08-22 Thread Isa M
Look at Simoncini Tullio - an oncologist who treats cancer with sodium
bicarbonate. He removed my breast tumor with his method
http://www.curenaturalicancro.com/en/
You can also look at Biosuperfood BAC (Bio algae concentrate) formula F3+ -
which will certainly help. .
.

2015-08-22 10:09 GMT+02:00 Dee d...@deetroy.org:

 Baking soda has had success when injected into tumours but to take it
 orally is not good because it neutralises stomach acid which would prevent
 the proper absorption of nutrients - which is not a wise thing to doDee

 Sent from my iPad

 On 22 Aug 2015, at 08:54, Smitty papad...@gmail.com wrote:

 Google baking soda and molasses
 Smitty

 On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 9:41 PM, Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote:

 Broccoli, probiotics, Parent Essential Oils (not fish oils - see Brian
 Peskin) Vitamin D3 and Vitamin K2, iodine, have all been mentioned as
 anti-cancer agents.  A friend of mines husband beat breast cancer using
 such things, and also drinking a pint of CS a day.also eating NO sugar
 as this feeds cancer.  Maybe something like Serrapeptase as well would
 help.Dee

 Sent from my iPad

  On 22 Aug 2015, at 05:35, Janice Rutledge bonniet...@hotmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Anyone know anything about Colloidal Silver and cancer.  I am looking
 for effective ways to overcome cancer as well as conventional methods.
 
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Re: CSCS and cancer treatment

2015-08-22 Thread Dee
I believe he injects it into the tumoursDee

Sent from my iPad

 On 22 Aug 2015, at 09:40, Isa M ipuzzl...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Look at Simoncini Tullio - an oncologist who treats cancer with sodium 
 bicarbonate. He removed my breast tumor with his method  
 http://www.curenaturalicancro.com/en/
 You can also look at Biosuperfood BAC (Bio algae concentrate) formula F3+ - 
 which will certainly help. . 
 . 
 
 2015-08-22 10:09 GMT+02:00 Dee d...@deetroy.org:
 Baking soda has had success when injected into tumours but to take it orally 
 is not good because it neutralises stomach acid which would prevent the 
 proper absorption of nutrients - which is not a wise thing to doDee
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 22 Aug 2015, at 08:54, Smitty papad...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Google baking soda and molasses
 Smitty
 
 On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 9:41 PM, Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote:
 Broccoli, probiotics, Parent Essential Oils (not fish oils - see Brian 
 Peskin) Vitamin D3 and Vitamin K2, iodine, have all been mentioned as 
 anti-cancer agents.  A friend of mines husband beat breast cancer using 
 such things, and also drinking a pint of CS a day.also eating NO sugar 
 as this feeds cancer.  Maybe something like Serrapeptase as well would 
 help.Dee
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
  On 22 Aug 2015, at 05:35, Janice Rutledge bonniet...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
  Anyone know anything about Colloidal Silver and cancer.  I am looking 
  for effective ways to overcome cancer as well as conventional methods.
 
  Janice.
 
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Re: CSCS and cancer treatment

2015-08-22 Thread Isa M
If he can reach the tumor via catheter. If not, by surgery (with HIS
method) followed by one month treatment  injecting sodium bicarbonate
solution.


2015-08-22 10:44 GMT+02:00 Dee d...@deetroy.org:

 I believe he injects it into the tumoursDee

 Sent from my iPad

 On 22 Aug 2015, at 09:40, Isa M ipuzzl...@gmail.com wrote:

 Look at Simoncini Tullio - an oncologist who treats cancer with sodium
 bicarbonate. He removed my breast tumor with his method
 http://www.curenaturalicancro.com/en/
 You can also look at Biosuperfood BAC (Bio algae concentrate) formula F3+
 - which will certainly help. .
 .

 2015-08-22 10:09 GMT+02:00 Dee d...@deetroy.org:

 Baking soda has had success when injected into tumours but to take it
 orally is not good because it neutralises stomach acid which would prevent
 the proper absorption of nutrients - which is not a wise thing to doDee

 Sent from my iPad

 On 22 Aug 2015, at 08:54, Smitty papad...@gmail.com wrote:

 Google baking soda and molasses
 Smitty

 On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 9:41 PM, Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote:

 Broccoli, probiotics, Parent Essential Oils (not fish oils - see Brian
 Peskin) Vitamin D3 and Vitamin K2, iodine, have all been mentioned as
 anti-cancer agents.  A friend of mines husband beat breast cancer using
 such things, and also drinking a pint of CS a day.also eating NO sugar
 as this feeds cancer.  Maybe something like Serrapeptase as well would
 help.Dee

 Sent from my iPad

  On 22 Aug 2015, at 05:35, Janice Rutledge bonniet...@hotmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Anyone know anything about Colloidal Silver and cancer.  I am looking
 for effective ways to overcome cancer as well as conventional methods.
 
  Janice.
 
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Re: CSCS and cancer treatment

2015-08-22 Thread Dee
Broccoli, probiotics, Parent Essential Oils (not fish oils - see Brian Peskin) 
Vitamin D3 and Vitamin K2, iodine, have all been mentioned as anti-cancer 
agents.  A friend of mines husband beat breast cancer using such things, and 
also drinking a pint of CS a day.also eating NO sugar as this feeds cancer. 
 Maybe something like Serrapeptase as well would help.Dee

Sent from my iPad

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Re: CSCS and cancer treatment

2015-08-22 Thread Dee
Baking soda has had success when injected into tumours but to take it orally is 
not good because it neutralises stomach acid which would prevent the proper 
absorption of nutrients - which is not a wise thing to doDee

Sent from my iPad

 On 22 Aug 2015, at 08:54, Smitty papad...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Google baking soda and molasses
 Smitty
 
 On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 9:41 PM, Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote:
 Broccoli, probiotics, Parent Essential Oils (not fish oils - see Brian 
 Peskin) Vitamin D3 and Vitamin K2, iodine, have all been mentioned as 
 anti-cancer agents.  A friend of mines husband beat breast cancer using such 
 things, and also drinking a pint of CS a day.also eating NO sugar as 
 this feeds cancer.  Maybe something like Serrapeptase as well would 
 help.Dee
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
  On 22 Aug 2015, at 05:35, Janice Rutledge bonniet...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
  Anyone know anything about Colloidal Silver and cancer.  I am looking for 
  effective ways to overcome cancer as well as conventional methods.
 
  Janice.
 
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Re: CSCS and cancer treatment

2015-08-22 Thread RaVen
When drinking a pint of CS a day -- it's in small doses all through out - 
correct? How much is safe to drink every so hours? 
Secondly, curious - when stating no sugar - does this mean white sugar only - 
or all forms of fructose?



On Aug 22, 2015, at 3:41 AM, Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote:

Broccoli, probiotics, Parent Essential Oils (not fish oils - see Brian Peskin) 
Vitamin D3 and Vitamin K2, iodine, have all been mentioned as anti-cancer 
agents.  A friend of mines husband beat breast cancer using such things, and 
also drinking a pint of CS a day.also eating NO sugar as this feeds cancer. 
 Maybe something like Serrapeptase as well would help.Dee

Sent from my iPad

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Re: CSCS and cancer treatment

2015-08-22 Thread Dee
Especially all forms of fructose!  White sugar is actually better than fructose 
because it is made up of glucose - which the body can handle - and fructose - 
which the body can't.  Most processed food contains HFCS (high fructose corn 
syrup) even bread etc., which the liver just can't metabolise and is probably 
the biggest cause of most disease today.  The CS would have been ingested 
throughout the day I would imagine, in case of interfering with the 
microbiomeDee

Sent from my iPad

 On 22 Aug 2015, at 11:48, RaVen aslra...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 When drinking a pint of CS a day -- it's in small doses all through out - 
 correct? How much is safe to drink every so hours? 
 Secondly, curious - when stating no sugar - does this mean white sugar only - 
 or all forms of fructose?
 
 
 
 On Aug 22, 2015, at 3:41 AM, Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote:
 
 Broccoli, probiotics, Parent Essential Oils (not fish oils - see Brian 
 Peskin) Vitamin D3 and Vitamin K2, iodine, have all been mentioned as 
 anti-cancer agents.  A friend of mines husband beat breast cancer using such 
 things, and also drinking a pint of CS a day.also eating NO sugar as this 
 feeds cancer.  Maybe something like Serrapeptase as well would help.Dee
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 22 Aug 2015, at 05:35, Janice Rutledge bonniet...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
 Anyone know anything about Colloidal Silver and cancer.  I am looking for 
 effective ways to overcome cancer as well as conventional methods.
 
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Re: CSCS and cancer treatment

2015-08-22 Thread Kirsteen Wright
I'm curious.  Are you saying that ingesting it through the day would not
interfere with the microbiome whereas taking it all at once would?

Cheers
Kirsteen
On 22 Aug 2015 12:27, Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote:

 Especially all forms of fructose!  White sugar is actually better than
 fructose because it is made up of glucose - which the body can handle - and
 fructose - which the body can't.  Most processed food contains HFCS (high
 fructose corn syrup) even bread etc., which the liver just can't metabolise
 and is probably the biggest cause of most disease today.  The CS would have
 been ingested throughout the day I would imagine, in case of interfering
 with the microbiomeDee

 Sent from my iPad

  On 22 Aug 2015, at 11:48, RaVen aslra...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  When drinking a pint of CS a day -- it's in small doses all through out
 - correct? How much is safe to drink every so hours?
  Secondly, curious - when stating no sugar - does this mean white sugar
 only - or all forms of fructose?
 
 
 
  On Aug 22, 2015, at 3:41 AM, Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote:
 
  Broccoli, probiotics, Parent Essential Oils (not fish oils - see Brian
 Peskin) Vitamin D3 and Vitamin K2, iodine, have all been mentioned as
 anti-cancer agents.  A friend of mines husband beat breast cancer using
 such things, and also drinking a pint of CS a day.also eating NO sugar
 as this feeds cancer.  Maybe something like Serrapeptase as well would
 help.Dee
 
  Sent from my iPad
 
  On 22 Aug 2015, at 05:35, Janice Rutledge bonniet...@hotmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Anyone know anything about Colloidal Silver and cancer.  I am looking
 for effective ways to overcome cancer as well as conventional methods.
 
  Janice.
 
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Re: CSCS and cancer treatment

2015-08-22 Thread RaVen
I made an error - I meant to say other forms of sugar from fruit --- not 
fructose 
What about coconut sugar (low glycemic) --- raw honey?
Stevia?



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Re: CSCS and cancer treatment

2015-08-22 Thread Dee
Honey is still sugar although it has other beneficial things in it I believe.  
I'm not sure about coconut sugarDee

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 I made an error - I meant to say other forms of sugar from fruit --- not 
 fructose 
 What about coconut sugar (low glycemic) --- raw honey?
 Stevia?
 
 
 
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Re: CSCS and cancer treatment

2015-08-22 Thread Dee
Well I guess that smaller amounts would be absorbed by the solid matter in the 
digestive system and then not be a problem because CS has to be in contact with 
the pathogen/bacteria to kill it.  A larger amount I would think maybe would 
have a bigger impact - especially on an empty stomach.  Probably not on a full 
one though...Dee

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 On 22 Aug 2015, at 13:05, Kirsteen Wright kirsteen.falcons...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I'm curious.  Are you saying that ingesting it through the day would not 
 interfere with the microbiome whereas taking it all at once would?
 
 Cheers 
 Kirsteen
 
 On 22 Aug 2015 12:27, Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote:
 Especially all forms of fructose!  White sugar is actually better than 
 fructose because it is made up of glucose - which the body can handle - and 
 fructose - which the body can't.  Most processed food contains HFCS (high 
 fructose corn syrup) even bread etc., which the liver just can't metabolise 
 and is probably the biggest cause of most disease today.  The CS would have 
 been ingested throughout the day I would imagine, in case of interfering 
 with the microbiomeDee
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
  On 22 Aug 2015, at 11:48, RaVen aslra...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  When drinking a pint of CS a day -- it's in small doses all through out - 
  correct? How much is safe to drink every so hours?
  Secondly, curious - when stating no sugar - does this mean white sugar 
  only - or all forms of fructose?
 
 
 
  On Aug 22, 2015, at 3:41 AM, Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote:
 
  Broccoli, probiotics, Parent Essential Oils (not fish oils - see Brian 
  Peskin) Vitamin D3 and Vitamin K2, iodine, have all been mentioned as 
  anti-cancer agents.  A friend of mines husband beat breast cancer using 
  such things, and also drinking a pint of CS a day.also eating NO sugar 
  as this feeds cancer.  Maybe something like Serrapeptase as well would 
  help.Dee
 
  Sent from my iPad
 
  On 22 Aug 2015, at 05:35, Janice Rutledge bonniet...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
  Anyone know anything about Colloidal Silver and cancer.  I am looking for 
  effective ways to overcome cancer as well as conventional methods.
 
  Janice.
 
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CSCS and cancer treatment

2015-08-21 Thread Janice Rutledge
Anyone know anything about Colloidal Silver and cancer.  I am looking for 
effective ways to overcome cancer as well as conventional methods.

Janice.

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Re: CSCS in nebulizer

2015-08-14 Thread Dee
I have a Medisana which seems good.  I got it on Amazon and have had it for 
years...Dee

Sent from my iPad

 On 13 Aug 2015, at 22:39, Melisse Gamache mytwofair...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi! I am looking for ultrasonic nebulizer machine.  Do you know any good 
 machine and made in USA?
 
 Thanks, 
 Melisse
 
 On Aug 13, 2015 2:10 PM, Theresa tmswift777...@gmail.com wrote:
 I nebulize it full strength. A bit irritating if you take a deep breath 
 through your mouth. I take slow deep breaths through my nose. 
 T
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Aug 13, 2015, at 2:34 PM, Isa M ipuzzl...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Thank you Lena! 
 
 
 2015-08-13 21:15 GMT+02:00 Lena Guyot drumr...@stny.rr.com:
 Here's a site about DMSO: dimethylsulfoxide-d...@yahoogroups.com
 On Aug 13, 2015, at 12:38 PM, Isa M wrote:
 
 
 Thank you !
 
 I started today. Kitty in his transport box, cover it and nebulize 10pp 
 CS into it from a small compressor, for few minutes.  .  Easy, no stress. 
 Will do that until mucus and cough gone.
 I also mix some CS into in food, wipe his eyes and nose with tissue 
 sprayed with CS. .
 Already seems better. Pretty bad bronchitis after a surgery and a course 
 of antibiotics which have weakened his immune system.
 I cross fingers it will be all gone very soon.
 
 I avoid ultrasonic systems because of bad frequencies. .Bad frequencies 
 may even turn your CS bitter.. .
 
 Instead you can put healing frequencies into the water you make your CS 
 from.
 
 See fabulous Dr Emoto's water crystals work and pictures!  
 
 Ps: could somebody tell me what is DMSO please? 
 
  
 
 2015-08-13 16:51 GMT+02:00 Lena Guyot drumr...@stny.rr.com:
 Hi Isa,
 I routinely use my Silver-Puppy-generated CS, straight, in my little 
 nebulizer, for both my own and my dog's URIs. I just hold him to my 
 chest and let the mist drift down across his nose. He usually tolerates 
 it and it really helps. Cats, being so different than dogs, might be a 
 completely different situation.
 
 Be well,
 Léna
 
 On Aug 13, 2015, at 7:24 AM, Isa M wrote:
 
 Hi is anybody have used CS in nebulizer? Which dilution?
 To use for my cat with FHV and bronchitis.
 Thank you!.
 
 
 
 


CSCS in nebulizer

2015-08-13 Thread Isa M
Hi is anybody have used CS in nebulizer? Which dilution?
To use for my cat with FHV and bronchitis.
Thank you!.


RE: CSCS in nebulizer

2015-08-13 Thread Neville
Yes, I got the wife to nebulise some of what I make.  I'm not that pedantic on 
ppm, just stop brewing anywhere between 17-22ppm on an EC meter.  Just filled 
that medicine thingo up on the nebuliser and inhaled until empty.  Did this for 
a couple of days for quite a severe cough which seemed to develop after a bout 
of Shingles for some reason?
N.

Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 13:24:32 +0200
From: ipuzzl...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSCS in nebulizer

Hi is anybody have used CS in nebulizer? Which dilution?To use for my cat with 
FHV and bronchitis.Thank you!. 

Re: CSCS in nebulizer

2015-08-13 Thread Diane Mackey
I use 10PPM in a nebulizer for myself.  Works great.  I actually use a
personal ultrasonic humidifier as my nebulizer, so it is pretty wet, but
still a fine mist.

On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 7:24 AM, Isa M ipuzzl...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi is anybody have used CS in nebulizer? Which dilution?
 To use for my cat with FHV and bronchitis.
 Thank you!.



Re: CSCS in nebulizer

2015-08-13 Thread Marshall

Yes, quite successfully.  I have used from 5 to 20 ppm, with 100% success.

Marshall

On 8/13/2015 7:24 AM, Isa M wrote:

Hi is anybody have used CS in nebulizer? Which dilution?
To use for my cat with FHV and bronchitis.
Thank you!.



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Re: CSCS in nebulizer

2015-08-13 Thread Lena Guyot
Hi Isa,
I routinely use my Silver-Puppy-generated CS, straight, in my little nebulizer, 
for both my own and my dog's URIs. I just hold him to my chest and let the mist 
drift down across his nose. He usually tolerates it and it really helps. Cats, 
being so different than dogs, might be a completely different situation.

Be well,
Léna
On Aug 13, 2015, at 7:24 AM, Isa M wrote:

 Hi is anybody have used CS in nebulizer? Which dilution?
 To use for my cat with FHV and bronchitis.
 Thank you!.



Re: CSCS in nebulizer

2015-08-13 Thread polo
A little DMSO in it doesnt hurt either. Helps penetrate lung biofilm 
infections. 

doug




On Aug 13, 2015, at 9:16 AM, Diane Mackey wrote:

 I use 10PPM in a nebulizer for myself.  Works great.  I actually use a 
 personal ultrasonic humidifier as my nebulizer, so it is pretty wet, but 
 still a fine mist.
 
 On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 7:24 AM, Isa M ipuzzl...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi is anybody have used CS in nebulizer? Which dilution?
 To use for my cat with FHV and bronchitis.
 Thank you!.
 



Re: CSCS in nebulizer

2015-08-13 Thread Isa M
Thank you !

I started today. Kitty in his transport box, cover it and nebulize 10pp CS
into it from a small compressor, for few minutes.  .  Easy, no stress. Will
do that until mucus and cough gone.
I also mix some CS into in food, wipe his eyes and nose with tissue sprayed
with CS. .
Already seems better. Pretty bad bronchitis after a surgery and a course of
antibiotics which have weakened his immune system.
I cross fingers it will be all gone very soon.

I avoid ultrasonic systems because of bad frequencies. .Bad frequencies may
even turn your CS bitter.. .

Instead you can put healing frequencies into the water you make your CS
from.

See fabulous Dr Emoto's water crystals work and pictures!

Ps: could somebody tell me what is DMSO please?



2015-08-13 16:51 GMT+02:00 Lena Guyot drumr...@stny.rr.com:

 Hi Isa,
 I routinely use my Silver-Puppy-generated CS, straight, in my little
 nebulizer, for both my own and my dog's URIs. I just hold him to my chest
 and let the mist drift down across his nose. He usually tolerates it and it
 really helps. Cats, being so different than dogs, might be a completely
 different situation.

 Be well,
 Léna

 On Aug 13, 2015, at 7:24 AM, Isa M wrote:

 Hi is anybody have used CS in nebulizer? Which dilution?
 To use for my cat with FHV and bronchitis.
 Thank you!.





Re: CSCS in nebulizer

2015-08-13 Thread Lena Guyot
Here's a site about DMSO: dimethylsulfoxide-d...@yahoogroups.com
On Aug 13, 2015, at 12:38 PM, Isa M wrote:

 Thank you !
 
 I started today. Kitty in his transport box, cover it and nebulize 10pp CS 
 into it from a small compressor, for few minutes.  .  Easy, no stress. Will 
 do that until mucus and cough gone.
 I also mix some CS into in food, wipe his eyes and nose with tissue sprayed 
 with CS. .
 Already seems better. Pretty bad bronchitis after a surgery and a course of 
 antibiotics which have weakened his immune system.
 I cross fingers it will be all gone very soon.
 
 I avoid ultrasonic systems because of bad frequencies. .Bad frequencies may 
 even turn your CS bitter.. .
 
 Instead you can put healing frequencies into the water you make your CS from.
 
 See fabulous Dr Emoto's water crystals work and pictures!  
 
 Ps: could somebody tell me what is DMSO please? 
 
  
 
 2015-08-13 16:51 GMT+02:00 Lena Guyot drumr...@stny.rr.com:
 Hi Isa,
 I routinely use my Silver-Puppy-generated CS, straight, in my little 
 nebulizer, for both my own and my dog's URIs. I just hold him to my chest and 
 let the mist drift down across his nose. He usually tolerates it and it 
 really helps. Cats, being so different than dogs, might be a completely 
 different situation.
 
 Be well,
 Léna
 
 On Aug 13, 2015, at 7:24 AM, Isa M wrote:
 
 Hi is anybody have used CS in nebulizer? Which dilution?
 To use for my cat with FHV and bronchitis.
 Thank you!.
 
 



Re: CSCS in nebulizer

2015-08-13 Thread Isa M
Thank you Lena!


2015-08-13 21:15 GMT+02:00 Lena Guyot drumr...@stny.rr.com:

 Here's a site about DMSO: dimethylsulfoxide-d...@yahoogroups.com
 On Aug 13, 2015, at 12:38 PM, Isa M wrote:

 Thank you !

 I started today. Kitty in his transport box, cover it and nebulize 10pp CS
 into it from a small compressor, for few minutes.  .  Easy, no stress. Will
 do that until mucus and cough gone.
 I also mix some CS into in food, wipe his eyes and nose with tissue
 sprayed with CS. .
 Already seems better. Pretty bad bronchitis after a surgery and a course
 of antibiotics which have weakened his immune system.
 I cross fingers it will be all gone very soon.

 I avoid ultrasonic systems because of bad frequencies. .Bad frequencies
 may even turn your CS bitter.. .

 Instead you can put healing frequencies into the water you make your CS
 from.

 See fabulous Dr Emoto's water crystals work and pictures!

 Ps: could somebody tell me what is DMSO please?



 2015-08-13 16:51 GMT+02:00 Lena Guyot drumr...@stny.rr.com:

 Hi Isa,
 I routinely use my Silver-Puppy-generated CS, straight, in my little
 nebulizer, for both my own and my dog's URIs. I just hold him to my chest
 and let the mist drift down across his nose. He usually tolerates it and it
 really helps. Cats, being so different than dogs, might be a completely
 different situation.

 Be well,
 Léna

 On Aug 13, 2015, at 7:24 AM, Isa M wrote:

 Hi is anybody have used CS in nebulizer? Which dilution?
 To use for my cat with FHV and bronchitis.
 Thank you!.







Re: CSCS in nebulizer

2015-08-13 Thread Melisse Gamache
Hi! I am looking for ultrasonic nebulizer machine.  Do you know any good
machine and made in USA?

Thanks,
Melisse
On Aug 13, 2015 2:10 PM, Theresa tmswift777...@gmail.com wrote:

 I nebulize it full strength. A bit irritating if you take a deep breath
 through your mouth. I take slow deep breaths through my nose.
 T

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Aug 13, 2015, at 2:34 PM, Isa M ipuzzl...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thank you Lena!


 2015-08-13 21:15 GMT+02:00 Lena Guyot drumr...@stny.rr.com:

 Here's a site about DMSO: dimethylsulfoxide-d...@yahoogroups.com
 On Aug 13, 2015, at 12:38 PM, Isa M wrote:

 Thank you !

 I started today. Kitty in his transport box, cover it and nebulize 10pp
 CS into it from a small compressor, for few minutes.  .  Easy, no stress.
 Will do that until mucus and cough gone.
 I also mix some CS into in food, wipe his eyes and nose with tissue
 sprayed with CS. .
 Already seems better. Pretty bad bronchitis after a surgery and a course
 of antibiotics which have weakened his immune system.
 I cross fingers it will be all gone very soon.

 I avoid ultrasonic systems because of bad frequencies. .Bad frequencies
 may even turn your CS bitter.. .

 Instead you can put healing frequencies into the water you make your CS
 from.

 See fabulous Dr Emoto's water crystals work and pictures!

 Ps: could somebody tell me what is DMSO please?



 2015-08-13 16:51 GMT+02:00 Lena Guyot drumr...@stny.rr.com:

 Hi Isa,
 I routinely use my Silver-Puppy-generated CS, straight, in my little
 nebulizer, for both my own and my dog's URIs. I just hold him to my chest
 and let the mist drift down across his nose. He usually tolerates it and it
 really helps. Cats, being so different than dogs, might be a completely
 different situation.

 Be well,
 Léna

 On Aug 13, 2015, at 7:24 AM, Isa M wrote:

 Hi is anybody have used CS in nebulizer? Which dilution?
 To use for my cat with FHV and bronchitis.
 Thank you!.








Re: CSCS in nebulizer

2015-08-13 Thread Lena Guyot
Hi Melisse,

Mine was recommended by several folks in the lymestrategies group. It was 
inexpensive, works very well, and doesn't take up much space when stored.

I googled it:   
MY-520A 
Portable Electronic Nebulizer made by MICKEYOO

Be well,
Léna

On Aug 13, 2015, at 5:39 PM, Melisse Gamache wrote:
 Hi! I am looking for ultrasonic nebulizer machine.  Do you know any good 
 machine and made in USA?
 
 Thanks, 
 Melisse
 
 On Aug 13, 2015 2:10 PM, Theresa tmswift777...@gmail.com wrote:
 I nebulize it full strength. A bit irritating if you take a deep breath 
 through your mouth. I take slow deep breaths through my nose. 
 T
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Aug 13, 2015, at 2:34 PM, Isa M ipuzzl...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Thank you Lena! 
 
 
 2015-08-13 21:15 GMT+02:00 Lena Guyot drumr...@stny.rr.com:
 Here's a site about DMSO: dimethylsulfoxide-d...@yahoogroups.com
 On Aug 13, 2015, at 12:38 PM, Isa M wrote:
 
 Thank you !
 
 I started today. Kitty in his transport box, cover it and nebulize 10pp CS 
 into it from a small compressor, for few minutes.  .  Easy, no stress. Will 
 do that until mucus and cough gone.
 I also mix some CS into in food, wipe his eyes and nose with tissue sprayed 
 with CS. .
 Already seems better. Pretty bad bronchitis after a surgery and a course of 
 antibiotics which have weakened his immune system.
 I cross fingers it will be all gone very soon.
 
 I avoid ultrasonic systems because of bad frequencies. .Bad frequencies may 
 even turn your CS bitter.. .
 
 Instead you can put healing frequencies into the water you make your CS 
 from.
 
 See fabulous Dr Emoto's water crystals work and pictures!  
 
 Ps: could somebody tell me what is DMSO please? 
 
  
 
 2015-08-13 16:51 GMT+02:00 Lena Guyot drumr...@stny.rr.com:
 Hi Isa,
 I routinely use my Silver-Puppy-generated CS, straight, in my little 
 nebulizer, for both my own and my dog's URIs. I just hold him to my chest 
 and let the mist drift down across his nose. He usually tolerates it and it 
 really helps. Cats, being so different than dogs, might be a completely 
 different situation.
 
 Be well,
 Léna
 
 On Aug 13, 2015, at 7:24 AM, Isa M wrote:
 
 Hi is anybody have used CS in nebulizer? Which dilution?
 To use for my cat with FHV and bronchitis.
 Thank you!.
 
 
 
 



Re: CSCS in nebulizer

2015-08-13 Thread Lena Guyot
Dimethylsulfoxide is an 'industrial' solvent which enables one to deliver all 
sorts of good stuff to the body transdermally. Google it: lots of interesting 
articles and a few caveats. I've even added a couple drops to my CS for eye 
drops when I had uveitis and they cleared it in record time.
A good probiotic while using abx is kefir. I give a bit to my dog every day, 
especially now while he's on abx for some stitches. And for the past couple of 
years, he only drinks CS. 
I love the work of Dr. Emoto, and that's why I no longer even microwave my tea 
water!
Be well,
Léna
On Aug 13, 2015, at 12:38 PM, Isa M wrote:

 Thank you !
 
 I started today. Kitty in his transport box, cover it and nebulize 10pp CS 
 into it from a small compressor, for few minutes.  .  Easy, no stress. Will 
 do that until mucus and cough gone.
 I also mix some CS into in food, wipe his eyes and nose with tissue sprayed 
 with CS. .
 Already seems better. Pretty bad bronchitis after a surgery and a course of 
 antibiotics which have weakened his immune system.
 I cross fingers it will be all gone very soon.
 
 I avoid ultrasonic systems because of bad frequencies. .Bad frequencies may 
 even turn your CS bitter.. .
 
 Instead you can put healing frequencies into the water you make your CS from.
 
 See fabulous Dr Emoto's water crystals work and pictures!  
 
 Ps: could somebody tell me what is DMSO please? 
 
  
 
 2015-08-13 16:51 GMT+02:00 Lena Guyot drumr...@stny.rr.com:
 Hi Isa,
 I routinely use my Silver-Puppy-generated CS, straight, in my little 
 nebulizer, for both my own and my dog's URIs. I just hold him to my chest and 
 let the mist drift down across his nose. He usually tolerates it and it 
 really helps. Cats, being so different than dogs, might be a completely 
 different situation.
 
 Be well,
 Léna
 
 On Aug 13, 2015, at 7:24 AM, Isa M wrote:
 
 Hi is anybody have used CS in nebulizer? Which dilution?
 To use for my cat with FHV and bronchitis.
 Thank you!.
 
 



Re: CSCS in nebulizer

2015-08-13 Thread Theresa
I nebulize it full strength. A bit irritating if you take a deep breath through 
your mouth. I take slow deep breaths through my nose. 
T

Sent from my iPhone

 On Aug 13, 2015, at 2:34 PM, Isa M ipuzzl...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Thank you Lena! 
 
 
 2015-08-13 21:15 GMT+02:00 Lena Guyot drumr...@stny.rr.com:
 Here's a site about DMSO: dimethylsulfoxide-d...@yahoogroups.com
 On Aug 13, 2015, at 12:38 PM, Isa M wrote:
 
 
 Thank you !
 
 I started today. Kitty in his transport box, cover it and nebulize 10pp CS 
 into it from a small compressor, for few minutes.  .  Easy, no stress. Will 
 do that until mucus and cough gone.
 I also mix some CS into in food, wipe his eyes and nose with tissue sprayed 
 with CS. .
 Already seems better. Pretty bad bronchitis after a surgery and a course of 
 antibiotics which have weakened his immune system.
 I cross fingers it will be all gone very soon.
 
 I avoid ultrasonic systems because of bad frequencies. .Bad frequencies may 
 even turn your CS bitter.. .
 
 Instead you can put healing frequencies into the water you make your CS 
 from.
 
 See fabulous Dr Emoto's water crystals work and pictures!  
 
 Ps: could somebody tell me what is DMSO please? 
 
  
 
 2015-08-13 16:51 GMT+02:00 Lena Guyot drumr...@stny.rr.com:
 Hi Isa,
 I routinely use my Silver-Puppy-generated CS, straight, in my little 
 nebulizer, for both my own and my dog's URIs. I just hold him to my chest 
 and let the mist drift down across his nose. He usually tolerates it and 
 it really helps. Cats, being so different than dogs, might be a completely 
 different situation.
 
 Be well,
 Léna
 
 On Aug 13, 2015, at 7:24 AM, Isa M wrote:
 
 Hi is anybody have used CS in nebulizer? Which dilution?
 To use for my cat with FHV and bronchitis.
 Thank you!.
 
 
 
 


Re: CSCS and pneumonia

2015-06-25 Thread Deborah Gerard
Pat,No doubt I believe that. Are you in the area that got all that rain too? 
Hope you get better real soon. People who have their health do not know how 
blessed they are.Debbie 


 On Thursday, June 25, 2015 12:16 AM, Patricia pcassi...@tx.rr.com wrote:
   

  Yes,  I'm in Texas, we have Lowes here and they have the $10 test kit... $40 
to send it off to be tested for kind of mold.. haven't done that .. just 
identifying that  there is or is not mold.  so that is what I am using now.  If 
this last one is clear maybe I won't have to do anything else.   i can tell you 
that it has certainly made me very sick for the last 8 months.  
 
 On 6/24/2015 9:22 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote:
  
  Pat I live in Michigan, and at a store chain called Meijer. In the hardware 
dept. they sell kits that detect mold. They don't cost too much. Glad you found 
it and hope it hasn't spread. 
 
 
   On Wednesday, June 24, 2015 10:06 PM, Patricia pcassi...@tx.rr.com 
wrote:
   
 
Right on Debbie:... I just started seeing an allergy doc and that is the 
first thing he zeroed in on.  After investigation, I found mold behind my 
dishwasher from a leak some time ago.  I've had all affected wood removed and 
things allergy wise seem to be getting better.  It was hidden, so couldn't be 
seen and didn't have an odor but was sure making me sick.  Will still have the 
house tested to be sure it is not in the central air.  I am no longer reacting 
so hopefully I got it all.  That is the probable cause of my pneumonia and weak 
immune system.  
 
 
 On 6/24/2015 1:13 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote:
   
  Hi Pat, 
  Do you live in a area that could have mold? Not meaning your in a messy 
places just wondering if you are being exposed to something. Debbie :) 
 
 
   On Wednesday, June 24, 2015 12:49 PM, Patricia pcassi...@tx.rr.com 
wrote:
   
 
Deborah - I make my own ... usually 22-29 ppm.  I don't smoke.  and usually 
if sick take the CS at a couple of ounces every 
 few hours.  and nebulize it.  so far ..  the pneumonia progresses and i end up 
on antibiotics.  As maintenance I just take
 at least once a day .. an ounce or two.  Maybe combining it with the 
electrolytes will make it work better for pneumonia.  Will try it.

 
  
  
   
 
  
 
 

  

Re: CSCS and pneumonia

2015-06-24 Thread Deborah Gerard
Pat I live in Michigan, and at a store chain called Meijer. In the hardware 
dept. they sell kits that detect mold. They don't cost too much. Glad you found 
it and hope it hasn't spread. 


 On Wednesday, June 24, 2015 10:06 PM, Patricia pcassi...@tx.rr.com wrote:
   

  Right on Debbie:... I just started seeing an allergy doc and that is the 
first thing he zeroed in on.  After investigation, I found mold behind my 
dishwasher from a leak some time ago.  I've had all affected wood removed and 
things allergy wise seem to be getting better.  It was hidden, so couldn't be 
seen and didn't have an odor but was sure making me sick.  Will still have the 
house tested to be sure it is not in the central air.  I am no longer reacting 
so hopefully I got it all.  That is the probable cause of my pneumonia and weak 
immune system.  
 
 
 On 6/24/2015 1:13 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote:
  
  Hi Pat, 
  Do you live in a area that could have mold? Not meaning your in a messy 
places just wondering if you are being exposed to something. Debbie :) 
 
 
   On Wednesday, June 24, 2015 12:49 PM, Patricia pcassi...@tx.rr.com 
wrote:
   
 
Deborah - I make my own ... usually 22-29 ppm.  I don't smoke.  and usually 
if sick take the CS at a couple of ounces every 
 few hours.  and nebulize it.  so far ..  the pneumonia progresses and i end up 
on antibiotics.  As maintenance I just take
 at least once a day .. an ounce or two.  Maybe combining it with the 
electrolytes will make it work better for pneumonia.  Will try it.

 
  
 
 

  

Re: Re: CSCS and pneumonia

2015-06-24 Thread jason
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Re: CSCS and pneumonia

2015-06-24 Thread Patricia
Right on Debbie:... I just started seeing an allergy doc and that is the 
first thing he zeroed in on.  After investigation, I found mold behind 
my dishwasher from a leak some time ago.  I've had all affected wood 
removed and things allergy wise seem to be getting better.  It was 
hidden, so couldn't be seen and didn't have an odor but was sure making 
me sick.  Will still have the house tested to be sure it is not in the 
central air.  I am no longer reacting so hopefully I got it all.  That 
is the probable cause of my pneumonia and weak immune system.



On 6/24/2015 1:13 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote:

Hi Pat,

Do you live in a area that could have mold? Not meaning your in a 
messy places just wondering if you are being exposed to something.

Debbie :)



On Wednesday, June 24, 2015 12:49 PM, Patricia pcassi...@tx.rr.com 
wrote:



Deborah - I make my own ... usually 22-29 ppm.  I don't smoke.  and 
usually if sick take the CS at a couple of ounces every
few hours.  and nebulize it.  so far ..  the pneumonia progresses and 
i end up on antibiotics. As maintenance I just take
at least once a day .. an ounce or two.  Maybe combining it with the 
electrolytes will make it work better for pneumonia.  Will try it.







Re: CSCS and pneumonia

2015-06-24 Thread Patricia
Yes,  I'm in Texas, we have Lowes here and they have the $10 test kit... 
$40 to send it off to be tested for kind of mold.. haven't done that .. 
just identifying that there is or is not mold.  so that is what I am 
using now.  If this last one is clear maybe I won't have to do anything 
else.   i can tell you that it has certainly made me very sick for the 
last 8 months.


On 6/24/2015 9:22 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote:
Pat I live in Michigan, and at a store chain called Meijer. In the 
hardware dept. they sell kits that detect mold. They don't cost too 
much. Glad you found it and hope it hasn't spread.




On Wednesday, June 24, 2015 10:06 PM, Patricia pcassi...@tx.rr.com 
wrote:



Right on Debbie:... I just started seeing an allergy doc and that is 
the first thing he zeroed in on. After investigation, I found mold 
behind my dishwasher from a leak some time ago.  I've had all affected 
wood removed and things allergy wise seem to be getting better.  It 
was hidden, so couldn't be seen and didn't have an odor but was sure 
making me sick.  Will still have the house tested to be sure it is not 
in the central air.  I am no longer reacting so hopefully I got it 
all. That is the probable cause of my pneumonia and weak immune system.



On 6/24/2015 1:13 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote:

Hi Pat,

Do you live in a area that could have mold? Not meaning your in a 
messy places just wondering if you are being exposed to something.

Debbie :)



On Wednesday, June 24, 2015 12:49 PM, Patricia pcassi...@tx.rr.com 
mailto:pcassi...@tx.rr.com wrote:



Deborah - I make my own ... usually 22-29 ppm.  I don't smoke.  and 
usually if sick take the CS at a couple of ounces every
few hours.  and nebulize it.  so far ..  the pneumonia progresses and 
i end up on antibiotics.  As maintenance I just take
at least once a day .. an ounce or two.  Maybe combining it with the 
electrolytes will make it work better for pneumonia.  Will try it.











CSCS and pneumonia

2015-06-24 Thread Patricia
Deborah - I make my own ... usually 22-29 ppm.  I don't smoke.  and 
usually if sick take the CS at a couple of ounces every
few hours.  and nebulize it.  so far ..  the pneumonia progresses and i 
end up on antibiotics.  As maintenance I just take
at least once a day .. an ounce or two.  Maybe combining it with the 
electrolytes will make it work better for pneumonia.  Will try it.


Re: CSCS and pneumonia

2015-06-24 Thread Deborah Gerard
Hi Pat,
Do you live in a area that could have mold? Not meaning your in a messy places 
just wondering if you are being exposed to something.Debbie :) 


 On Wednesday, June 24, 2015 12:49 PM, Patricia pcassi...@tx.rr.com wrote:
   

   Deborah - I make my own ... usually 22-29 ppm.  I don't smoke.  and usually 
if sick take the CS at a couple of ounces every 
 few hours.  and nebulize it.  so far ..  the pneumonia progresses and i end up 
on antibiotics.  As maintenance I just take
 at least once a day .. an ounce or two.  Maybe combining it with the 
electrolytes will make it work better for pneumonia.  Will try it.
  

  

Re: CSCS and pneumonia

2015-06-24 Thread Patricia

Deborah - how much CS do you take ?

On 6/24/2015 11:49 AM, Patricia wrote:
Deborah - I make my own ... usually 22-29 ppm.  I don't smoke.  and 
usually if sick take the CS at a couple of ounces every
few hours.  and nebulize it.  so far ..  the pneumonia progresses and 
i end up on antibiotics.  As maintenance I just take
at least once a day .. an ounce or two.  Maybe combining it with the 
electrolytes will make it work better for pneumonia.  Will try it.




Re: CSCs IV Substitute

2015-06-22 Thread Gary Hilt
i also have had pneumonia 2x im a year and the silver drank and nebulized
did not work?


On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 9:23 AM, Patricia pcassi...@tx.rr.com wrote:

  Ref: the gatorade substitute- I have been using the juice of 1 or 2
 oranges (depends on size), 1 lemon, 1 lime (if I have it), 1/8 tsp pink
 salt, 1 TBL honey, and
 2.5-3 cups water.   I too am borderline diabetic and this works ok for
 me.  I will try it with the CS.  I have been using silver for a long time
 but have never had
 dramatic results.  Well, I guess one time I did have dental surgery and
 used it in place of the antibiotic the doc prescribed.  But never seems to
 prevent the pneumonia I seem to get too often...or help w/ the allergies.
 :/

 On 6/21/2015 11:16 PM, brick...@aol.com wrote:

  Ditto. I thought I had all of Brooks Bradley's posts but somehow this
 one was lost. Thanks for posting the links Olushola. I used Gatorade until
 someone reported it uses high fructose corn syrup. I am borderline diabetic
 and try to limit corn syrup so I switched to Marshall's suggestion.
 Brickey

  In a message dated 6/21/2015 7:19:18 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
 pcassi...@tx.rr.com writes:

 thank you Olushola great links...





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Jesus Christ.
Gary  Lennie


Re: CSCs IV Substitute

2015-06-22 Thread Deborah Gerard
Where did you buy it? How much did you take, and do you smoke? I can't remember 
the last time I even had a cold since I started taking CS. 


 On Monday, June 22, 2015 4:50 PM, Gary Hilt sobertogod1n...@gmail.com 
wrote:
   

 i also have had pneumonia 2x im a year and the silver drank and nebulized did 
not work?

On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 9:23 AM, Patricia pcassi...@tx.rr.com wrote:

  Ref: the gatorade substitute- I have been using the juice of 1 or 2 oranges 
(depends on size), 1 lemon, 1 lime (if I have it), 1/8 tsp pink salt, 1 TBL 
honey, and 
 2.5-3 cups water.   I too am borderline diabetic and this works ok for me.  I 
will try it with the CS.  I have been using silver for a long time but have 
never had
 dramatic results.  Well, I guess one time I did have dental surgery and used 
it in place of the antibiotic the doc prescribed.  But never seems to prevent 
the pneumonia I seem to get too often...or help w/ the allergies.  :/
 
 On 6/21/2015 11:16 PM, brick...@aol.com wrote:
  
  Ditto. I thought I had all of Brooks Bradley's posts but somehow this one was 
lost. Thanks for posting the links Olushola. I used Gatorade until someone 
reported it uses high fructose corn syrup. I am borderline diabetic and try to 
limit corn syrup so I switched to Marshall's suggestion. Brickey    In a 
message dated 6/21/2015 7:19:18 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, pcassi...@tx.rr.com 
writes: 
thank you Olushola great links... 
  
 
 



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Jesus Christ. Gary  Lennie

  

Re: CSCs IV Substitute

2015-06-22 Thread Patricia
I bet we could just use the 2.5 cups of with with l/8 tsp salt and Vit C 
powder and honey or not ... that would simplify it ..  will have to 
experiment.  Citric acid is usually made from corn (I think) and most of 
that is GMO.



On 6/21/2015 11:16 PM, brick...@aol.com wrote:
Ditto. I thought I had all of Brooks Bradley's posts but somehow this 
one was lost. Thanks for posting the links Olushola. I used Gatorade 
until someone reported it uses high fructose corn syrup. I am 
borderline diabetic and try to limit corn syrup so I switched to 
Marshall's suggestion.

Brickey
In a message dated 6/21/2015 7:19:18 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
pcassi...@tx.rr.com writes:


thank you Olushola great links... 





Re: CSCs IV Substitute

2015-06-22 Thread Patricia
Ref: the gatorade substitute- I have been using the juice of 1 or 2 
oranges (depends on size), 1 lemon, 1 lime (if I have it), 1/8 tsp pink 
salt, 1 TBL honey, and
2.5-3 cups water.   I too am borderline diabetic and this works ok for 
me.  I will try it with the CS.  I have been using silver for a long 
time but have never had
dramatic results.  Well, I guess one time I did have dental surgery and 
used it in place of the antibiotic the doc prescribed.  But never seems 
to prevent the pneumonia I seem to get too often...or help w/ the 
allergies.  :/


On 6/21/2015 11:16 PM, brick...@aol.com wrote:
Ditto. I thought I had all of Brooks Bradley's posts but somehow this 
one was lost. Thanks for posting the links Olushola. I used Gatorade 
until someone reported it uses high fructose corn syrup. I am 
borderline diabetic and try to limit corn syrup so I switched to 
Marshall's suggestion.

Brickey
In a message dated 6/21/2015 7:19:18 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
pcassi...@tx.rr.com writes:


thank you Olushola great links... 





Re: CSCs IV Substitute

2015-06-21 Thread Olushola Camara
Here are some links

http://www.silvermedicine.org/gatorade-silver-electrolytes.html

http://silver-lightning.com/theory.html#Gator

http://healyourselfathome.com/HOW/THERAPIES/ICS.aspx

Olushola



On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 2:57 PM, brick...@aol.com wrote:

  People must have forgotten what Brooks Bradley/Marshall posted awhile
 back. Gatorade and CS work about as effective as an IV. Marshall posted a
 substitute for Gatorade a mixture of salt and citric acid will work as
 well. The salt increases the solubility of silver chloride by forming a
 complex with it, and the citric acid forms silver citrate which has good
 solubility as well.
 Brickey

  In a message dated 6/19/2015 1:00:42 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
 d...@deetroy.org writes:

 I don't think I have ever heard of cs being
 used by IV.  Maybe it has but I haven't read/heard about it.
 Lola




Re: CSCs IV Substitute

2015-06-21 Thread Patricia

thank you Olushola great links...


On 6/21/2015 8:01 PM, Olushola Camara wrote:

Here are some links

http://www.silvermedicine.org/gatorade-silver-electrolytes.html

http://silver-lightning.com/theory.html#Gator

http://healyourselfathome.com/HOW/THERAPIES/ICS.aspx

Olushola



On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 2:57 PM, brick...@aol.com 
mailto:brick...@aol.com wrote:


People must have forgotten what Brooks Bradley/Marshall posted
awhile back. Gatorade and CS work about as effective as an IV.
Marshall posted a substitute for Gatorade a mixture of salt and
citric acid will work as well. The salt increases the solubility
of silver chloride by forming a complex with it, and the citric
acid forms silver citrate which has good solubility as well.
Brickey
In a message dated 6/19/2015 1:00:42 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
d...@deetroy.org mailto:d...@deetroy.org writes:

I don't think I have ever heard of cs being
used by IV.  Maybe it has but I haven't read/heard about it.
Lola






Re: CSCs IV Substitute

2015-06-21 Thread Brickeyk
Ditto. I thought I had all of Brooks Bradley's posts but somehow this one  
was lost. Thanks for posting the links Olushola. I used Gatorade until 
someone  reported it uses high fructose corn syrup. I am borderline diabetic 
and 
try to  limit corn syrup so I switched to Marshall's suggestion.
Brickey
 
 
In a message dated 6/21/2015 7:19:18 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
pcassi...@tx.rr.com writes:

thank  you Olushola great links... 


CSCs IV Substitute

2015-06-19 Thread Brickeyk
People must have forgotten what Brooks Bradley/Marshall posted awhile back. 
 Gatorade and CS work about as effective as an IV. Marshall posted a  
substitute for Gatorade a mixture of salt and citric acid will work as  well. 
The salt increases the solubility of silver chloride by forming a complex  
with it, and the citric acid forms silver citrate which has good solubility as  
well.
Brickey
 
 
In a message dated 6/19/2015 1:00:42 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
d...@deetroy.org writes:

I don't think I have ever heard of cs being
used by IV.  Maybe it has but I haven't read/heard about  it. 

Lola



Re: CSCS Gel

2015-03-11 Thread Lynn
They have some way of doing this at silver puppy (colloidal silver generators) 
on the web. lynn
On Feb 23, 2015, at 1:27 PM, Ian ian_onta...@hotmail.com wrote:

 
  Hello:
  
 I have a supply of Xanthan Gum and Xylitol and Colloidal Silver.
  
 Does someone have a method for making a nice topical colloidal silver gel 
 that will adhere to skin, cuts and scrapes?
  
 I've tried mixing xanthan with room temperature water, but it clumps and 
 doesn't mix well. Tried mixing the xanthan powder with xylitol granules and 
 adding to water while stirring but it didn't mix completely either. Would 
 like to have an esthetically pleasing product with a reasonable shelf life of 
 a year.  Is this possible?
  
 I'm sure there is a way to do this - blender, mixer, - temperature may be a 
 factor - don't know.
  
 Thank you for your help.  
  
 Please send replies to ianro...@rogers.com
  
 Ian Roe
 Canada.



RE: CSCS Gel

2015-02-24 Thread Ian
Your response would have what? to do with my request, I don't understand. Can 
you explain further please?  
 
Ian
 
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 23:56:30 +
Subject: Re: CSCS Gel
From: asifnathe...@hotmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com






What about an  ultrasonic cleaner
I know this isn't liposomal but could an analog exist in this case?.
Cheers...







Sent from Samsung Mobile







 Original message 

From: Ian ian_onta...@hotmail.com 

Date: 23/02/2015 21:27 (GMT+00:00) 

To: silver-list@eskimo.com 

Subject: CSCS Gel 









 Hello:

 

I have a supply of Xanthan Gum and Xylitol and Colloidal Silver.

 

Does someone have a method for making a nice topical colloidal silver gel that 
will adhere to skin, cuts and scrapes?

 

I've tried mixing xanthan with room temperature water, but it clumps and 
doesn't mix well. Tried mixing the xanthan powder with xylitol granules and 
adding to water while stirring but it didn't mix completely either. Would like 
to have an esthetically pleasing
 product with a reasonable shelf life of a year.  Is this possible?

 

I'm sure there is a way to do this - blender, mixer, - temperature may be a 
factor - don't know.

 

Thank you for your help.  

 

Please send replies to ianro...@rogers.com

 

Ian Roe

Canada.


  

Re: CSCS Gel

2015-02-24 Thread Marshall
This youtube video shows it being done with an admix rotosolver, 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xPG1KXfUwU


However, when I checked the price I found one on ebay for $7500.  It 
appears that a paint mixer from Home Depot would likely also work, and 
that is a little less expensive at $1.13, 
http://www.homedepot.com/s/paint%2520mixer?NCNI-5


Marshall

On 2/23/2015 4:27 PM, Ian wrote:


 Hello:

I have a supply of Xanthan Gum and Xylitol and Colloidal Silver.

Does someone have a method for making a nice topical colloidal silver 
gel that will adhere to skin, cuts and scrapes?


I've tried mixing xanthan with room temperature water, but it clumps 
and doesn't mix well. Tried mixing the xanthan powder with xylitol 
granules and adding to water while stirring but it didn't mix 
completely either. Would like to have an esthetically pleasing product 
with a reasonable shelf life of a year.  Is this possible?


I'm sure there is a way to do this - blender, mixer, - temperature may 
be a factor - don't know.


Thank you for your help.

Please send replies to ianro...@rogers.com mailto:ianro...@rogers.com

Ian Roe
Canada.




Re: CSCS Gel

2015-02-24 Thread sol

Ian wrote:


 Hello:
 
I have a supply of Xanthan Gum and Xylitol and Colloidal Silver.
 
Does someone have a method for making a nice topical colloidal silver 
gel that will adhere to skin, cuts and scrapes?
Ode Coyote used to sell a gel mix kit. Don't know if he still does you 
could check his website.

sol

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CSCS Gel

2015-02-23 Thread Ian

 Hello:
 
I have a supply of Xanthan Gum and Xylitol and Colloidal Silver.
 
Does someone have a method for making a nice topical colloidal silver gel that 
will adhere to skin, cuts and scrapes?
 
I've tried mixing xanthan with room temperature water, but it clumps and 
doesn't mix well. Tried mixing the xanthan powder with xylitol granules and 
adding to water while stirring but it didn't mix completely either. Would like 
to have an esthetically pleasing product with a reasonable shelf life of a 
year.  Is this possible?
 
I'm sure there is a way to do this - blender, mixer, - temperature may be a 
factor - don't know.
 
Thank you for your help.  
 
Please send replies to ianro...@rogers.com
 
Ian Roe
Canada.
  

Re: CSCS Gel

2015-02-23 Thread asifnathekar
What about an  ultrasonic cleaner
I know this isn't liposomal but could an analog exist in this case?.
Cheers...


Sent from Samsung Mobile

 Original message 
From: Ian ian_onta...@hotmail.com
Date: 23/02/2015  21:27  (GMT+00:00)
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSCS Gel


 Hello:

I have a supply of Xanthan Gum and Xylitol and Colloidal Silver.

Does someone have a method for making a nice topical colloidal silver gel that 
will adhere to skin, cuts and scrapes?

I've tried mixing xanthan with room temperature water, but it clumps and 
doesn't mix well. Tried mixing the xanthan powder with xylitol granules and 
adding to water while stirring but it didn't mix completely either. Would like 
to have an esthetically pleasing product with a reasonable shelf life of a 
year.  Is this possible?

I'm sure there is a way to do this - blender, mixer, - temperature may be a 
factor - don't know.

Thank you for your help.

Please send replies to ianro...@rogers.com

Ian Roe
Canada.



CSCS for Bronchitis

2015-02-06 Thread Reece Maxey
Any advice for treating bronchitis with CS?
Assuming best method is with Nebulizer, CS 8-10
ppm full strength. How many mmg(?), how often?
Thanks,
Opa

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Re: CSCS/Liposomal C/EIS/CS for eyes.

2015-02-06 Thread Joe Huard

Hi Kathy,
Borrks will /like /how you spelled his name. :-)
When it's made this way, you can drink more than you can with vit. c 
mixed in water, because you don't reach bowel tolerance as fast. You 
can't overdose on vitamin C at even 100,000 grams. If you made a single 
batch with 1 Tbsp. ascorbic acid (vit. C), you have 1306 mg. x 12 = 
15.672 grams. You should be able to drink this easily in one day. When I 
make a double batch, I drink half the first day and the other half the 
next day. If I was seriously sick, I could easily increase that. Drink 
it straight and then chase it with water to get the acid off your teeth. 
If you add sodium bicarbonate, it is less acidic, but at least 3 times 
less effective.


Joe
On 2015-02-06 8:38 AM, Kathy Tankersley wrote:
I made the liposomal vit for the first timenow I'm not sure how to 
take it.  Do you take it straight?  mixed with soda?, how much soda?  
and how big is the dose of vitamin c.I used the Borrks Bradley 
recipe.   Anyone out there that can help? Thanks,  Kathy




- Original Message - From: Joe Huard joe.hu...@primus.ca
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2015 7:19 PM
Subject: Re: CSCS/Liposomal C/EIS/CS for eyes.


http://michaelmooney.net/BrooksBradleysHomemadeLiposomalVitaminCMethod.pdf 

http://www.indiadivine.org/content/topic/1825104-brooks-bradleys-homemade-liposomal-c-method/ 


On 2015-01-26 2:17 PM, HARSHA GODAVARI wrote:

Joe:
   Could you post Brook's original recipe? Thanks.

regards
hg

- Original Message -
From: Joe Huard joe.hu...@primus.ca
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2015 1:09:43 PM
Subject: Re: CSCS/Liposomal C/EIS/CS for eyes.

I also made liposomal Vit C using the Brooks Bradley recipe, but as 
I remember it, I used ascorbic acid, not sodium ascorbate. It is 
easy to take. I can make a double batch which is equal to 24 grams 
vit C.
I just got up and looked for the recipe inside my cupboard; the 
baking soda is optional and I did use it every time. However, I came 
to understand from some reading lately that vitamin C is best not 
buffered as it offers more electrons to the reactions, so I will try 
it neat next time I make liposomal vit. C.
I can't look up the reference as the internet is timing out even on 
Yahoo since yesterday. I can't even run a broadband speedtest from 
my own internet service provider.

Joe

On 2015-01-26 12:45 PM, Harold wrote:





I have made Liposomal Vitamin C for quite some time now.The recipe 
is from Brooks Bradley, ie, 3 tblspns [SL]Soya lecithin granules in 
1 cup distilled water [room temp.],1 tblspn sodium ascorbate 
granules in 1/2 cup distilled water.Let sit until SL is fully 
emulsified in Water.Then put in Jewellery ultrasonic cleaner.Run for 
6 minutes,stirring gently with a plastic soda straw.Very pleasant to 
take,slightly nutty flavour.
The cleaner I have is by “Chicago Electric ‘which I got from Harbour 
Freight’ ,approx.$40.00.

.
EYES:- for a lot of years I have been using CS[strong Tyndall] in my 
eyes at least 3 to 4 times per day.I was developing a cataract ,long 
time ago,in one eye as told to me by my eye specialist ,now there is 
no sign of it,gone, and my sight is as good now as when I was 40;I 
am now in my 91st year.


Hope this helps,sure does for me !

Harold


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Re: CSCS/Liposomal C/EIS/CS for eyes.

2015-02-06 Thread Kathy Tankersley
Thanks, Joe for the info..I mis-typed Brooks name.its the grams tht 
have me confused, I am used to mg's. Also, wanted to ask about hex sympotons?  
Any at this level that  you are speaking about?
Kathy
  - Original Message - 
  From: Joe Huard 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 9:49 AM
  Subject: Re: CSCS/Liposomal C/EIS/CS for eyes.


  Hi Kathy,
  Borrks will like how you spelled his name. :-) 
  When it's made this way, you can drink more than you can with vit. c mixed in 
water, because you don't reach bowel tolerance as fast. You can't overdose on 
vitamin C at even 100,000 grams. If you made a single batch with 1 Tbsp. 
ascorbic acid (vit. C), you have 1306 mg. x 12 = 15.672 grams. You should be 
able to drink this easily in one day. When I make a double batch, I drink half 
the first day and the other half the next day. If I was seriously sick, I could 
easily increase that. Drink it straight and then chase it with water to get the 
acid off your teeth. If you add sodium bicarbonate, it is less acidic, but at 
least 3 times less effective.

  Joe

  On 2015-02-06 8:38 AM, Kathy Tankersley wrote:

I made the liposomal vit for the first timenow I'm not sure how to take 
it.  Do you take it straight?  mixed with soda?, how much soda?  and how big is 
the dose of vitamin c.I used the Borrks Bradley recipe.   Anyone out there that 
can help?  Thanks,  Kathy 



- Original Message - From: Joe Huard joe.hu...@primus.ca 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2015 7:19 PM 
Subject: Re: CSCS/Liposomal C/EIS/CS for eyes. 



  
http://michaelmooney.net/BrooksBradleysHomemadeLiposomalVitaminCMethod.pdf 
  
http://www.indiadivine.org/content/topic/1825104-brooks-bradleys-homemade-liposomal-c-method/
 
  On 2015-01-26 2:17 PM, HARSHA GODAVARI wrote: 

Joe: 
   Could you post Brook's original recipe? Thanks. 

regards 
hg 

- Original Message - 
From: Joe Huard joe.hu...@primus.ca 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2015 1:09:43 PM 
Subject: Re: CSCS/Liposomal C/EIS/CS for eyes. 

I also made liposomal Vit C using the Brooks Bradley recipe, but as I 
remember it, I used ascorbic acid, not sodium ascorbate. It is easy to take. I 
can make a double batch which is equal to 24 grams vit C. 
I just got up and looked for the recipe inside my cupboard; the baking 
soda is optional and I did use it every time. However, I came to understand 
from some reading lately that vitamin C is best not buffered as it offers more 
electrons to the reactions, so I will try it neat next time I make liposomal 
vit. C. 
I can't look up the reference as the internet is timing out even on 
Yahoo since yesterday. I can't even run a broadband speedtest from my own 
internet service provider. 
Joe 

On 2015-01-26 12:45 PM, Harold wrote: 





I have made Liposomal Vitamin C for quite some time now.The recipe is 
from Brooks Bradley, ie, 3 tblspns [SL]Soya lecithin granules in 1 cup 
distilled water [room temp.],1 tblspn sodium ascorbate granules in 1/2 cup 
distilled water.Let sit until SL is fully emulsified in Water.Then put in 
Jewellery ultrasonic cleaner.Run for 6 minutes,stirring gently with a plastic 
soda straw.Very pleasant to take,slightly nutty flavour. 
The cleaner I have is by “Chicago Electric ‘which I got from Harbour 
Freight’ ,approx.$40.00. 
. 
EYES:- for a lot of years I have been using CS[strong Tyndall] in my 
eyes at least 3 to 4 times per day.I was developing a cataract ,long time 
ago,in one eye as told to me by my eye specialist ,now there is no sign of 
it,gone, and my sight is as good now as when I was 40;I am now in my 91st year. 

Hope this helps,sure does for me ! 

Harold 


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Re: CSCS/Liposomal C/EIS/CS for eyes.

2015-02-06 Thread Kathy Tankersley
I made the liposomal vit for the first timenow I'm not sure how to take 
it.  Do you take it straight?  mixed with soda?, how much soda?  and how big 
is the dose of vitamin c.I used the Borrks Bradley recipe.   Anyone out 
there that can help?  Thanks,  Kathy




- Original Message - 
From: Joe Huard joe.hu...@primus.ca

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2015 7:19 PM
Subject: Re: CSCS/Liposomal C/EIS/CS for eyes.



http://michaelmooney.net/BrooksBradleysHomemadeLiposomalVitaminCMethod.pdf
http://www.indiadivine.org/content/topic/1825104-brooks-bradleys-homemade-liposomal-c-method/
On 2015-01-26 2:17 PM, HARSHA GODAVARI wrote:

Joe:
   Could you post Brook's original recipe? Thanks.

regards
hg

- Original Message -
From: Joe Huard joe.hu...@primus.ca
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2015 1:09:43 PM
Subject: Re: CSCS/Liposomal C/EIS/CS for eyes.

I also made liposomal Vit C using the Brooks Bradley recipe, but as I 
remember it, I used ascorbic acid, not sodium ascorbate. It is easy to 
take. I can make a double batch which is equal to 24 grams vit C.
I just got up and looked for the recipe inside my cupboard; the baking 
soda is optional and I did use it every time. However, I came to 
understand from some reading lately that vitamin C is best not buffered 
as it offers more electrons to the reactions, so I will try it neat 
next time I make liposomal vit. C.
I can't look up the reference as the internet is timing out even on Yahoo 
since yesterday. I can't even run a broadband speedtest from my own 
internet service provider.

Joe

On 2015-01-26 12:45 PM, Harold wrote:





I have made Liposomal Vitamin C for quite some time now.The recipe is 
from Brooks Bradley, ie, 3 tblspns [SL]Soya lecithin granules in 1 cup 
distilled water [room temp.],1 tblspn sodium ascorbate granules in 1/2 
cup distilled water.Let sit until SL is fully emulsified in Water.Then 
put in Jewellery ultrasonic cleaner.Run for 6 minutes,stirring gently 
with a plastic soda straw.Very pleasant to take,slightly nutty flavour.
The cleaner I have is by “Chicago Electric ‘which I got from Harbour 
Freight’ ,approx.$40.00.

.
EYES:- for a lot of years I have been using CS[strong Tyndall] in my eyes 
at least 3 to 4 times per day.I was developing a cataract ,long time 
ago,in one eye as told to me by my eye specialist ,now there is no sign 
of it,gone, and my sight is as good now as when I was 40;I am now in my 
91st year.


Hope this helps,sure does for me !

Harold


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Re: CSCS/Liposomal C/EIS/CS for eyes.

2015-01-26 Thread HARSHA GODAVARI
Joe:
  Could you post Brook's original recipe? Thanks.

regards
hg

- Original Message -
From: Joe Huard joe.hu...@primus.ca
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2015 1:09:43 PM
Subject: Re: CSCS/Liposomal C/EIS/CS for eyes.

I also made liposomal Vit C using the Brooks Bradley recipe, but as I remember 
it, I used ascorbic acid, not sodium ascorbate. It is easy to take. I can make 
a double batch which is equal to 24 grams vit C. 
I just got up and looked for the recipe inside my cupboard; the baking soda is 
optional and I did use it every time. However, I came to understand from some 
reading lately that vitamin C is best not buffered as it offers more electrons 
to the reactions, so I will try it neat next time I make liposomal vit. C. 
I can't look up the reference as the internet is timing out even on Yahoo since 
yesterday. I can't even run a broadband speedtest from my own internet service 
provider. 
Joe 

On 2015-01-26 12:45 PM, Harold wrote: 





I have made Liposomal Vitamin C for quite some time now.The recipe is from 
Brooks Bradley, ie, 3 tblspns [SL]Soya lecithin granules in 1 cup distilled 
water [room temp.],1 tblspn sodium ascorbate granules in 1/2 cup distilled 
water.Let sit until SL is fully emulsified in Water.Then put in Jewellery 
ultrasonic cleaner.Run for 6 minutes,stirring gently with a plastic soda 
straw.Very pleasant to take,slightly nutty flavour. 
The cleaner I have is by “Chicago Electric ‘which I got from Harbour Freight’ 
,approx.$40.00. 
. 
EYES:- for a lot of years I have been using CS[strong Tyndall] in my eyes at 
least 3 to 4 times per day.I was developing a cataract ,long time ago,in one 
eye as told to me by my eye specialist ,now there is no sign of it,gone, and my 
sight is as good now as when I was 40;I am now in my 91st year. 

Hope this helps,sure does for me ! 

Harold 


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Re: CSCS/Liposomal C/EIS/CS for eyes.

2015-01-26 Thread Joe Huard
I also made liposomal Vit C using the Brooks Bradley recipe, but as I 
remember it, I used ascorbic acid, not sodium ascorbate. It is easy to 
take. I can make a double batch which is equal to 24 grams vit C.
I just got up and looked for the recipe inside my cupboard; the baking 
soda is optional and I did use it every time. However, I came to 
understand from some reading lately that vitamin C is best not buffered 
as it offers more electrons to the reactions, so I will try it neat 
next time I make liposomal vit. C.
I can't look up the reference as the internet is timing out even on 
Yahoo since yesterday. I can't even run a broadband speedtest from my 
own internet service provider.

Joe
On 2015-01-26 12:45 PM, Harold wrote:
I have made Liposomal Vitamin C for quite some time now.The recipe is 
from Brooks Bradley, ie, 3 tblspns [SL]Soya lecithin granules in 1 cup 
distilled water [room temp.],1 tblspn sodium ascorbate granules in 1/2 
cup distilled water.Let sit until SL is fully emulsified in Water.Then 
put in Jewellery ultrasonic cleaner.Run for 6 minutes,stirring gently 
with a plastic soda straw.Very pleasant to take,slightly nutty flavour.
The cleaner I have is by “Chicago Electric ‘which I got from Harbour 
Freight’ ,approx.$40.00.

.
EYES:- for a lot of years I have been using CS[strong Tyndall] in my 
eyes at least 3 to 4 times per day.I was developing a cataract ,long 
time ago,in one eye as told to me by my eye specialist ,now there is 
no sign of it,gone, and my sight is as good now as when I was 40;I am 
now in my 91st year.

Hope this helps,sure does for me !
Harold




CSCS/Liposomal C/EIS/CS for eyes.

2015-01-26 Thread Harold
I have made Liposomal Vitamin C for quite some time now.The recipe is from 
Brooks Bradley, ie, 3 tblspns [SL]Soya lecithin granules in 1 cup distilled 
water [room temp.],1 tblspn sodium ascorbate granules in 1/2 cup distilled 
water.Let sit until SL is fully emulsified in Water.Then put in Jewellery 
ultrasonic cleaner.Run for 6 minutes,stirring gently with a plastic soda 
straw.Very pleasant to take,slightly nutty flavour.
The cleaner I have is by “Chicago Electric ‘which I got from Harbour Freight’ 
,approx.$40.00.
.
EYES:- for a lot of years I have been using CS[strong Tyndall] in my eyes at 
least 3 to 4 times per day.I was developing a cataract ,long time ago,in one 
eye as told to me by my eye specialist ,now there is no sign of it,gone, and my 
sight is as good now as when I was 40;I am now in my 91st year.

Hope this helps,sure does for me !

Harold

Re: CSCS/Liposomal C/EIS/CS for eyes.

2015-01-26 Thread HARSHA GODAVARI
Thanks Joe.
regards
hg
- Original Message -
From: Joe Huard joe.hu...@primus.ca
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, 26 Jan 2015 18:19:22 -0700 (MST)
Subject: Re: CSCS/Liposomal C/EIS/CS for eyes.

http://michaelmooney.net/BrooksBradleysHomemadeLiposomalVitaminCMethod.pdf
http://www.indiadivine.org/content/topic/1825104-brooks-bradleys-homemade-liposomal-c-method/
On 2015-01-26 2:17 PM, HARSHA GODAVARI wrote:
 Joe:
Could you post Brook's original recipe? Thanks.

 regards
 hg

 - Original Message -
 From: Joe Huard joe.hu...@primus.ca
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Monday, January 26, 2015 1:09:43 PM
 Subject: Re: CSCS/Liposomal C/EIS/CS for eyes.

 I also made liposomal Vit C using the Brooks Bradley recipe, but as I 
 remember it, I used ascorbic acid, not sodium ascorbate. It is easy to take. 
 I can make a double batch which is equal to 24 grams vit C.
 I just got up and looked for the recipe inside my cupboard; the baking soda 
 is optional and I did use it every time. However, I came to understand from 
 some reading lately that vitamin C is best not buffered as it offers more 
 electrons to the reactions, so I will try it neat next time I make 
 liposomal vit. C.
 I can't look up the reference as the internet is timing out even on Yahoo 
 since yesterday. I can't even run a broadband speedtest from my own internet 
 service provider.
 Joe

 On 2015-01-26 12:45 PM, Harold wrote:





 I have made Liposomal Vitamin C for quite some time now.The recipe is from 
 Brooks Bradley, ie, 3 tblspns [SL]Soya lecithin granules in 1 cup distilled 
 water [room temp.],1 tblspn sodium ascorbate granules in 1/2 cup distilled 
 water.Let sit until SL is fully emulsified in Water.Then put in Jewellery 
 ultrasonic cleaner.Run for 6 minutes,stirring gently with a plastic soda 
 straw.Very pleasant to take,slightly nutty flavour.
 The cleaner I have is by “Chicago Electric ‘which I got from Harbour Freight’ 
 ,approx.$40.00.
 .
 EYES:- for a lot of years I have been using CS[strong Tyndall] in my eyes at 
 least 3 to 4 times per day.I was developing a cataract ,long time ago,in one 
 eye as told to me by my eye specialist ,now there is no sign of it,gone, and 
 my sight is as good now as when I was 40;I am now in my 91st year.

 Hope this helps,sure does for me !

 Harold


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Re: CSCS/Liposomal C/EIS/CS for eyes.

2015-01-26 Thread Joe Huard

http://michaelmooney.net/BrooksBradleysHomemadeLiposomalVitaminCMethod.pdf
http://www.indiadivine.org/content/topic/1825104-brooks-bradleys-homemade-liposomal-c-method/
On 2015-01-26 2:17 PM, HARSHA GODAVARI wrote:

Joe:
   Could you post Brook's original recipe? Thanks.

regards
hg

- Original Message -
From: Joe Huard joe.hu...@primus.ca
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2015 1:09:43 PM
Subject: Re: CSCS/Liposomal C/EIS/CS for eyes.

I also made liposomal Vit C using the Brooks Bradley recipe, but as I remember 
it, I used ascorbic acid, not sodium ascorbate. It is easy to take. I can make 
a double batch which is equal to 24 grams vit C.
I just got up and looked for the recipe inside my cupboard; the baking soda is optional 
and I did use it every time. However, I came to understand from some reading lately that 
vitamin C is best not buffered as it offers more electrons to the reactions, so I will 
try it neat next time I make liposomal vit. C.
I can't look up the reference as the internet is timing out even on Yahoo since 
yesterday. I can't even run a broadband speedtest from my own internet service 
provider.
Joe

On 2015-01-26 12:45 PM, Harold wrote:





I have made Liposomal Vitamin C for quite some time now.The recipe is from 
Brooks Bradley, ie, 3 tblspns [SL]Soya lecithin granules in 1 cup distilled 
water [room temp.],1 tblspn sodium ascorbate granules in 1/2 cup distilled 
water.Let sit until SL is fully emulsified in Water.Then put in Jewellery 
ultrasonic cleaner.Run for 6 minutes,stirring gently with a plastic soda 
straw.Very pleasant to take,slightly nutty flavour.
The cleaner I have is by “Chicago Electric ‘which I got from Harbour Freight’ 
,approx.$40.00.
.
EYES:- for a lot of years I have been using CS[strong Tyndall] in my eyes at 
least 3 to 4 times per day.I was developing a cataract ,long time ago,in one 
eye as told to me by my eye specialist ,now there is no sign of it,gone, and my 
sight is as good now as when I was 40;I am now in my 91st year.

Hope this helps,sure does for me !

Harold


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Re: CSCS Nebulizer Recommendations?

2015-01-08 Thread Reece Maxey
Thanks for the links Saralou.
Reece

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 On Jan 4, 2015, at 4:10 PM, RoseOttoGroups roseottogro...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 This is like the one I've used for 20 years. 
 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nebulizer-Diffuser-Room-Model-by-Amrita-Aromatherapy-/181107547333
  http://www.bayho.com/p/490110.html?gclid=CI7evOib-8ICFQisaQodFF4AcA
 
 http://www.flossu.com/product/Amrita-604 plugs into a fish tank pump.
 
 
 Here's an ultrasonic that's cheap. 
 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Portable-Ultrasonic-Nebulizer-Nebuliser-Handheld-Adult-Kid-Respirator-Humidifie/171626020833?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140602152332%26meid%3D711f0913c6d5430390ef6fe2d0de12c8%26pid%3D100011%26prg%3D20140602152332%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D10%26sd%3D320760941169three
  Five years  ago some people on the crock_Lakhovsky list used this one as 
 well as
 
 I don't know if a salt inhaler can be used with EIS or 
 not...http://www.amazon.com/Refillable-Inhaler-Himalayan-Crystal-Posergy/dp/B006U41QN0/ref=pd_sbs_hpc_2?ie=UTF8refRID=0J24MXA382YHV9N8MV1Q
 
 http://www.clinicalguard.com/compressor-ultrasonic-nebulizer-c-45.html?ref=40gclid=COP57bGq-8ICFSxgMgoddDoAGg
 
 More economical still, and measurably less effective but better than nothing 
 is to spray a fine mist aimed at the back of the throat, inhaling thru' the 
 mouth as you spray.
 
 Saralou
 
 On 12/29/2014 11:31 PM, Ode Coyote wrote:
 The Medisana Ultrasonic Personal Humidifier is AWESOME
 
 http://www.amazon.com/Medisana-Hah1500EBP-Ultrasonic-Personal-Humidifier/dp/B000AF78KU/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8qid=1419913787sr=8-2keywords=medisana+ultrasonic
 
 ..but I see the going price has more than doubled since I bought mine.
 
 ode
 
 
 
 On 12/29/2014 8:53 PM, Walter Anderson wrote:
 
 Hello all,
 
 I don’t write here often, but often read and appreciate the information and 
 viewpoints you all share; thanks!
 
 Based on input here, we ended up getting a Pure Water Mini Classic CT 
 distiller and SG7 and are very happy with them. There are certainly more 
 affordable ways to get the job done, but if it fits in the budget (and 
 space…) these are nice to work with and make it relatively easy to make 
 gallons of consistent CS/EIS (I understand the SG7 makes mostly EIS and 
 some CS).
 
 We’ve been hesitant to drink much of the CS/EIS as we don’t want to 
 interfere with gut flora. And we also understand the stomach is not an 
 efficient route to get it into other areas of the body (unless you haven’t 
 been eating so long that your stomach is no longer producing hydrochloric 
 acid). So we’ve been swishing it in our mouths for minute(s) and then 
 spitting it out. So far this has seemed to resolve any sensitivity in 
 teethe/gums fairly quickly (from one several minute swish to repeated ones 
 over 2-3 days). It also seems to help some with sore throat symptoms. Also 
 tried spraying a bit into each ear canal today when soreness headed that 
 way (some kind of flu that has given us mostly mild symptoms) and it seemed 
 to help quite a bit.
 
 This leads to the nebulizer question. We’d like an efficient way to get 
 CS/EIS into other areas of the body—not really looking to get it into the 
 gut. Nebulizing seems like a good way to do this. Questions:
 
 1.How much would you take at once when nebulizing? For instance, is the 7 
 mL capacity of this vibrating mesh nebulizer 
 http://justnebulizers.com/respiratory-blog/what-is-vibrating-mesh-technology/
  (which can nebulize everything you put into it with none left over) 
 sufficient?
 
 2.Any reason—other than price—why one would NOT want that model nebulizer?
 
 3.Any other nebulizer you’d recommend that would be similarly compact, 
 convenient, and fast (this one is supposed to be quite fast/efficient for 
 shorter dose times) for use both at home and while travelling?
 
 Other cautions, advice, and recommendations are all welcome.
 
 Best regards,
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Re: CSCS Nebulizer Recommendations?

2015-01-04 Thread RoseOttoGroups

This is like the one I've used for 20 years.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nebulizer-Diffuser-Room-Model-by-Amrita-Aromatherapy-/181107547333
http://www.bayho.com/p/490110.html?gclid=CI7evOib-8ICFQisaQodFF4AcA

http://www.flossu.com/product/Amrita-604 plugs into a fish tank pump.


Here's an ultrasonic that's cheap.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Portable-Ultrasonic-Nebulizer-Nebuliser-Handheld-Adult-Kid-Respirator-Humidifie/171626020833?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140602152332%26meid%3D711f0913c6d5430390ef6fe2d0de12c8%26pid%3D100011%26prg%3D20140602152332%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D10%26sd%3D320760941169three
Five years  ago some people on the crock_Lakhovsky list used this one as
well as

I don't know if a salt inhaler can be used with EIS or
not...http://www.amazon.com/Refillable-Inhaler-Himalayan-Crystal-Posergy/dp/B006U41QN0/ref=pd_sbs_hpc_2?ie=UTF8refRID=0J24MXA382YHV9N8MV1Q

http://www.clinicalguard.com/compressor-ultrasonic-nebulizer-c-45.html?ref=40gclid=COP57bGq-8ICFSxgMgoddDoAGg

More economical still, and measurably less effective but better than
nothing is to spray a fine mist aimed at the back of the throat,
inhaling thru' the mouth as you spray.

Saralou

On 12/29/2014 11:31 PM, Ode Coyote wrote:

The Medisana Ultrasonic Personal Humidifier is AWESOME

http://www.amazon.com/Medisana-Hah1500EBP-Ultrasonic-Personal-Humidifier/dp/B000AF78KU/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8qid=1419913787sr=8-2keywords=medisana+ultrasonic

..but I see the going price has more than doubled since I bought mine.

ode



On 12/29/2014 8:53 PM, Walter Anderson wrote:


Hello all,

I don’t write here often, but often read and appreciate the
information and viewpoints you all share; thanks!

Based on input here, we ended up getting a Pure Water Mini Classic CT
distiller and SG7 and are very happy with them. There are certainly
more affordable ways to get the job done, but if it fits in the
budget (and space…) these are nice to work with and make it
relatively easy to make gallons of consistent CS/EIS (I understand
the SG7 makes mostly EIS and some CS).

We’ve been hesitant to drink much of the CS/EIS as we don’t want to
interfere with gut flora. And we also understand the stomach is not
an efficient route to get it into other areas of the body (unless you
haven’t been eating so long that your stomach is no longer producing
hydrochloric acid). So we’ve been swishing it in our mouths for 
minute(s) and then spitting it out. So far this has seemed to resolve

any sensitivity in teethe/gums fairly quickly (from one several
minute swish to repeated ones over 2-3 days). It also seems to help
some with sore throat symptoms. Also tried spraying a bit into each
ear canal today when soreness headed that way (some kind of flu that
has given us mostly mild symptoms) and it seemed to help quite a bit.

This leads to the nebulizer question. We’d like an efficient way to
get CS/EIS into other areas of the body—not really looking to get it
into the gut. Nebulizing seems like a good way to do this. Questions:

1.How much would you take at once when nebulizing? For instance, is
the 7 mL capacity of this vibrating mesh nebulizer
http://justnebulizers.com/respiratory-blog/what-is-vibrating-mesh-technology/
(which can nebulize everything you put into it with none left over)
sufficient?

2.Any reason—other than price—why one would NOT want that model
nebulizer?

3.Any other nebulizer you’d recommend that would be similarly
compact, convenient, and fast (this one is supposed to be quite
fast/efficient for shorter dose times) for use both at home and while
travelling?

Other cautions, advice, and recommendations are all welcome.

Best regards,
Walter






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Re: CSCS Nebulizer Recommendations?

2015-01-02 Thread Brickeyk
Hi
It seems that many report good results using CPAP water tanks with EIS,  
regular nebulizers and Brooks Bradley's air brush + O2 tank. Some say it  has 
to be ultra sonic in order to break up EIS, otherwise silver drops to the  
bottom of the tank. Looks like there is no consensus if only ultra sonic  
will work. For myself an eye dropper with EIS with my head positioned over the  
bed worked as well as any nebulizer. I tried Brooks air brush but never 
with an  oxygen tank like he said to use, that may be the best and cheapest.
Brickey
 
In a message dated 1/2/2015 9:08:22 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
d...@deetroy.org writes:

I don't  know Neville, the Medisana produces a vapour which I breathe  
in...Dee



Re: CSCS Nebulizer Recommendations?

2015-01-02 Thread Dee
Hi Walter, I just put my mouth right next to the outlet and breathe the vapour 
in. It seems to cause more coughing the less infected my lungs are.  If they 
are fairly clear, then I seem to cough more.  I don't know if everyone has this 
or just me, but it works whateverDee

Sent from my iPad

 On 2 Jan 2015, at 01:02, Walter Anderson walter.ander...@outlook.com wrote:
 
 Thanks Ode and Dee. Half price would look very good :) Do you breath it right 
 by the humidifier outlet like a nebulizer then? Or for a whole room? Or both?
 Best regards,
 Walter
  
 From: Dee [mailto:d...@deetroy.org] 
 Sent: Tue, Dec. 30, 2014 01:28
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSCS Nebulizer Recommendations?
  
 That's what I thought Ode .Dee
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 30 Dec 2014, at 04:31, Ode Coyote odecoy...@silverpuppy.com wrote:
 
 The Medisana Ultrasonic Personal Humidifier is AWESOME
 
 http://www.amazon.com/Medisana-Hah1500EBP-Ultrasonic-Personal-Humidifier/dp/B000AF78KU/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8qid=1419913787sr=8-2keywords=medisana+ultrasonic
 
 ..but I see the going price has more than doubled since I bought mine.
 
 ode
 
 
 
 On 12/29/2014 8:53 PM, Walter Anderson wrote:
 Hello all,
 I don’t write here often, but often read and appreciate the information and 
 viewpoints you all share; thanks!
 Based on input here, we ended up getting a Pure Water Mini Classic CT 
 distiller and SG7 and are very happy with them. There are certainly more 
 affordable ways to get the job done, but if it fits in the budget (and 
 space…) these are nice to work with and make it relatively easy to make 
 gallons of consistent CS/EIS (I understand the SG7 makes mostly EIS and some 
 CS).
 We’ve been hesitant to drink much of the CS/EIS as we don’t want to interfere 
 with gut flora. And we also understand the stomach is not an efficient route 
 to get it into other areas of the body (unless you haven’t been eating so 
 long that your stomach is no longer producing hydrochloric acid). So we’ve 
 been swishing it in our mouths for minute(s) and then spitting it out. So far 
 this has seemed to resolve any sensitivity in teethe/gums fairly quickly 
 (from one several minute swish to repeated ones over 2-3 days). It also seems 
 to help some with sore throat symptoms. Also tried spraying a bit into each 
 ear canal today when soreness headed that way (some kind of flu that has 
 given us mostly mild symptoms) and it seemed to help quite a bit.
 This leads to the nebulizer question. We’d like an efficient way to get 
 CS/EIS into other areas of the body—not really looking to get it into the 
 gut. Nebulizing seems like a good way to do this. Questions:
 1.   How much would you take at once when nebulizing? For instance, is 
 the 7 mL capacity of this vibrating mesh nebulizer (which can nebulize 
 everything you put into it with none left over) sufficient?
 2.   Any reason—other than price—why one would NOT want that model 
 nebulizer?
 3.   Any other nebulizer you’d recommend that would be similarly compact, 
 convenient, and fast (this one is supposed to be quite fast/efficient for 
 shorter dose times) for use both at home and while travelling?
 Other cautions, advice, and recommendations are all welcome.
 Best regards,
 Walter
  
 
 
 
 
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RE: CSCS Nebulizer Recommendations?

2015-01-02 Thread Neville
Not sure if I'm missing something here so ignore this if necessary.
We have an old Maymed nebuliser with the face mask, the wife used it some time 
ago for a cough which I think? was related to Shingles at the time, we just 
filled that in-line medicine container thingy with CS/EIS and put the face mask 
on and fired it up.  Medication holder holds 10ml, she breathed the vapour 
until it was empty.I think a nebuliser is better than a humidifier isn't it?
N.

Subject: Re: CSCS Nebulizer Recommendations?
From: d...@deetroy.org
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2015 09:39:12 +
To: silver-list@eskimo.com

Hi Walter, I just put my mouth right next to the outlet and breathe the vapour 
in. It seems to cause more coughing the less infected my lungs are.  If they 
are fairly clear, then I seem to cough more.  I don't know if everyone has this 
or just me, but it works whateverDee

Sent from my iPad
On 2 Jan 2015, at 01:02, Walter Anderson walter.ander...@outlook.com wrote:

Thanks Ode and Dee. Half price would look very good :) Do you breath it right 
by the humidifier outlet like a nebulizer then? Or for a whole room? Or 
both?Best regards,
Walter From: Dee [mailto:d...@deetroy.org] 
Sent: Tue, Dec. 30, 2014 01:28
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSCS Nebulizer Recommendations? That's what I thought Ode .Dee

Sent from my iPad
On 30 Dec 2014, at 04:31, Ode Coyote odecoy...@silverpuppy.com wrote:The 
Medisana Ultrasonic Personal Humidifier is AWESOME

http://www.amazon.com/Medisana-Hah1500EBP-Ultrasonic-Personal-Humidifier/dp/B000AF78KU/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8qid=1419913787sr=8-2keywords=medisana+ultrasonic

..but I see the going price has more than doubled since I bought mine.

ode


On 12/29/2014 8:53 PM, Walter Anderson wrote:Hello all,I don’t write here 
often, but often read and appreciate the information and viewpoints you all 
share; thanks!Based on input here, we ended up getting a Pure Water Mini 
Classic CT distiller and SG7 and are very happy with them. There are certainly 
more affordable ways to get the job done, but if it fits in the budget (and 
space…) these are nice to work with and make it relatively easy to make gallons 
of consistent CS/EIS (I understand the SG7 makes mostly EIS and some CS).We’ve 
been hesitant to drink much of the CS/EIS as we don’t want to interfere with 
gut flora. And we also understand the stomach is not an efficient route to get 
it into other areas of the body (unless you haven’t been eating so long that 
your stomach is no longer producing hydrochloric acid). So we’ve been swishing 
it in our mouths for minute(s) and then spitting it out. So far this has seemed 
to resolve any sensitivity in teethe/gums fairly quickly (from one several 
minute swish to repeated ones over 2-3 days). It also seems to help some with 
sore throat symptoms. Also tried spraying a bit into each ear canal today when 
soreness headed that way (some kind of flu that has given us mostly mild 
symptoms) and it seemed to help quite a bit.This leads to the nebulizer 
question. We’d like an efficient way to get CS/EIS into other areas of the 
body—not really looking to get it into the gut. Nebulizing seems like a good 
way to do this. Questions:1.   How much would you take at once when 
nebulizing? For instance, is the 7 mL capacity of this vibrating mesh nebulizer 
(which can nebulize everything you put into it with none left over) 
sufficient?2.   Any reason—other than price—why one would NOT want that 
model nebulizer?3.   Any other nebulizer you’d recommend that would be 
similarly compact, convenient, and fast (this one is supposed to be quite 
fast/efficient for shorter dose times) for use both at home and while 
travelling?Other cautions, advice, and recommendations are all welcome.Best 
regards,
Walter 

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Re: CSCS Nebulizer Recommendations?

2015-01-02 Thread Dee
I don't know Neville, the Medisana produces a vapour which I breathe in...Dee

Sent from my iPad

 On 2 Jan 2015, at 13:41, Neville one.red...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
 Not sure if I'm missing something here so ignore this if necessary.
 
 We have an old Maymed nebuliser with the face mask, the wife used it some 
 time ago for a cough which I think? was related to Shingles at the time, we 
 just filled that in-line medicine container thingy with CS/EIS and put the 
 face mask on and fired it up.  Medication holder holds 10ml, she breathed the 
 vapour until it was empty.
 I think a nebuliser is better than a humidifier isn't it?
 
 N.
 
 Subject: Re: CSCS Nebulizer Recommendations?
 From: d...@deetroy.org
 Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2015 09:39:12 +
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 
 Hi Walter, I just put my mouth right next to the outlet and breathe the 
 vapour in. It seems to cause more coughing the less infected my lungs are.  
 If they are fairly clear, then I seem to cough more.  I don't know if 
 everyone has this or just me, but it works whateverDee
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 2 Jan 2015, at 01:02, Walter Anderson walter.ander...@outlook.com wrote:
 
 Thanks Ode and Dee. Half price would look very good :) Do you breath it right 
 by the humidifier outlet like a nebulizer then? Or for a whole room? Or both?
 
 Best regards,
 Walter
 
  
 
 From: Dee [mailto:d...@deetroy.org] 
 Sent: Tue, Dec. 30, 2014 01:28
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSCS Nebulizer Recommendations?
 
  
 
 That's what I thought Ode .Dee
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 
 On 30 Dec 2014, at 04:31, Ode Coyote odecoy...@silverpuppy.com wrote:
 
 The Medisana Ultrasonic Personal Humidifier is AWESOME
 
 http://www.amazon.com/Medisana-Hah1500EBP-Ultrasonic-Personal-Humidifier/dp/B000AF78KU/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8qid=1419913787sr=8-2keywords=medisana+ultrasonic
 
 ..but I see the going price has more than doubled since I bought mine.
 
 ode
 
 
 
 On 12/29/2014 8:53 PM, Walter Anderson wrote:
 
 Hello all,
 
 I don’t write here often, but often read and appreciate the information and 
 viewpoints you all share; thanks!
 
 Based on input here, we ended up getting a Pure Water Mini Classic CT 
 distiller and SG7 and are very happy with them. There are certainly more 
 affordable ways to get the job done, but if it fits in the budget (and 
 space…) these are nice to work with and make it relatively easy to make 
 gallons of consistent CS/EIS (I understand the SG7 makes mostly EIS and some 
 CS).
 
 We’ve been hesitant to drink much of the CS/EIS as we don’t want to interfere 
 with gut flora. And we also understand the stomach is not an efficient route 
 to get it into other areas of the body (unless you haven’t been eating so 
 long that your stomach is no longer producing hydrochloric acid). So we’ve 
 been swishing it in our mouths for minute(s) and then spitting it out. So far 
 this has seemed to resolve any sensitivity in teethe/gums fairly quickly 
 (from one several minute swish to repeated ones over 2-3 days). It also seems 
 to help some with sore throat symptoms. Also tried spraying a bit into each 
 ear canal today when soreness headed that way (some kind of flu that has 
 given us mostly mild symptoms) and it seemed to help quite a bit.
 
 This leads to the nebulizer question. We’d like an efficient way to get 
 CS/EIS into other areas of the body—not really looking to get it into the 
 gut. Nebulizing seems like a good way to do this. Questions:
 
 1.   How much would you take at once when nebulizing? For instance, is 
 the 7 mL capacity of this vibrating mesh nebulizer (which can nebulize 
 everything you put into it with none left over) sufficient?
 
 2.   Any reason—other than price—why one would NOT want that model 
 nebulizer?
 
 3.   Any other nebulizer you’d recommend that would be similarly compact, 
 convenient, and fast (this one is supposed to be quite fast/efficient for 
 shorter dose times) for use both at home and while travelling?
 
 Other cautions, advice, and recommendations are all welcome.
 
 Best regards,
 Walter
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: CSCS Nebulizer Recommendations?

2015-01-01 Thread Walter Anderson
Thanks Neville. That's good to know. A nebulizer still seems like a good
idea for some things, but maybe we'll swallow after we swish :)

Best regards,
Walter

 

From: Neville [mailto:one.red...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Tue, Dec. 30, 2014 14:43
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSCS Nebulizer Recommendations?

 

 

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From: walter.ander...@outlook.com mailto:walter.ander...@outlook.com 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com 
Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2014 17:53:40 -0800
Subject: CSCS Nebulizer Recommendations?

Hello all,

I don't write here often, but often read and appreciate the information and
viewpoints you all share; thanks!

Based on input here, we ended up getting a Pure Water Mini Classic CT
distiller and SG7 and are very happy with them. There are certainly more
affordable ways to get the job done, but if it fits in the budget (and
space.) these are nice to work with and make it relatively easy to make
gallons of consistent CS/EIS (I understand the SG7 makes mostly EIS and some
CS).

 

We've been hesitant to drink much of the CS/EIS as we don't want to
interfere with gut flora. And we also understand the stomach is not an
efficient route to get it into other areas of the body (unless you haven't
been eating so long that your stomach is no longer producing hydrochloric
acid). So we've been swishing it in our mouths for minute(s) and then
spitting it out. So far this has seemed to resolve any sensitivity in
teethe/gums fairly quickly (from one several minute swish to repeated ones
over 2-3 days). It also seems to help some with sore throat symptoms. Also
tried spraying a bit into each ear canal today when soreness headed that way
(some kind of flu that has given us mostly mild symptoms) and it seemed to
help quite a bit.

 

## I can only pass comment from a personal perspective on this passage...I
ingest a small maintenance? amount each morning before breakfast when the
mouth is driest by swallowing half immediately and swishing other half
around under the tongue for a few minutes, then I swallow that.  If I feel
onset of cold/flu I ingest a 250ml/8 ounce glass morning and night for 1-3
days {swishing and swallowing}, and preferably freshly made to try and
maximise ion intake.  My gut flora has never been compromised in all the
years I've been ingesting my home made stuff, either freshly made or from
storage.

 

A few years ago a family member developed white lesions? on tonsils, which
is usually a sign of onset of tonsillitis, a glass of silver swished/gargled
and then swallowed, and then a mouthful gargled and swallowed on odd
occasions throughout the day got rid of those lesions by the next day.  I
had trouble accepting and believing that would be possible, but seeing it
forced me to believe it.

 

N.

 

 

Other cautions, advice, and recommendations are all welcome.

Best regards,
Walter

 



RE: CSCS Nebulizer Recommendations?

2015-01-01 Thread Walter Anderson
Thanks Ode and Dee. Half price would look very good :) Do you breath it right 
by the humidifier outlet like a nebulizer then? Or for a whole room? Or both?

Best regards,
Walter

 

From: Dee [mailto:d...@deetroy.org] 
Sent: Tue, Dec. 30, 2014 01:28
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSCS Nebulizer Recommendations?

 

That's what I thought Ode .Dee

Sent from my iPad


On 30 Dec 2014, at 04:31, Ode Coyote odecoy...@silverpuppy.com 
mailto:odecoy...@silverpuppy.com  wrote:

The Medisana Ultrasonic Personal Humidifier is AWESOME

http://www.amazon.com/Medisana-Hah1500EBP-Ultrasonic-Personal-Humidifier/dp/B000AF78KU/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8
 
http://www.amazon.com/Medisana-Hah1500EBP-Ultrasonic-Personal-Humidifier/dp/B000AF78KU/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8qid=1419913787sr=8-2keywords=medisana+ultrasonic
 qid=1419913787sr=8-2keywords=medisana+ultrasonic

..but I see the going price has more than doubled since I bought mine.

ode




On 12/29/2014 8:53 PM, Walter Anderson wrote:

Hello all,

I don’t write here often, but often read and appreciate the information and 
viewpoints you all share; thanks!

Based on input here, we ended up getting a Pure Water Mini Classic CT distiller 
and SG7 and are very happy with them. There are certainly more affordable ways 
to get the job done, but if it fits in the budget (and space…) these are nice 
to work with and make it relatively easy to make gallons of consistent CS/EIS 
(I understand the SG7 makes mostly EIS and some CS).

We’ve been hesitant to drink much of the CS/EIS as we don’t want to interfere 
with gut flora. And we also understand the stomach is not an efficient route to 
get it into other areas of the body (unless you haven’t been eating so long 
that your stomach is no longer producing hydrochloric acid). So we’ve been 
swishing it in our mouths for minute(s) and then spitting it out. So far this 
has seemed to resolve any sensitivity in teethe/gums fairly quickly (from one 
several minute swish to repeated ones over 2-3 days). It also seems to help 
some with sore throat symptoms. Also tried spraying a bit into each ear canal 
today when soreness headed that way (some kind of flu that has given us mostly 
mild symptoms) and it seemed to help quite a bit.

This leads to the nebulizer question. We’d like an efficient way to get CS/EIS 
into other areas of the body—not really looking to get it into the gut. 
Nebulizing seems like a good way to do this. Questions:

1.   How much would you take at once when nebulizing? For instance, is the 
7 mL capacity of this vibrating mesh nebulizer 
http://justnebulizers.com/respiratory-blog/what-is-vibrating-mesh-technology/ 
 (which can nebulize everything you put into it with none left over) sufficient?

2.   Any reason—other than price—why one would NOT want that model 
nebulizer?

3.   Any other nebulizer you’d recommend that would be similarly compact, 
convenient, and fast (this one is supposed to be quite fast/efficient for 
shorter dose times) for use both at home and while travelling?

Other cautions, advice, and recommendations are all welcome.

Best regards,
Walter

 






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Re: CSCS Nebulizer Recommendations?

2014-12-30 Thread Dee
That's what I thought Ode .Dee

Sent from my iPad

 On 30 Dec 2014, at 04:31, Ode Coyote odecoy...@silverpuppy.com wrote:
 
 The Medisana Ultrasonic Personal Humidifier is AWESOME
 
 http://www.amazon.com/Medisana-Hah1500EBP-Ultrasonic-Personal-Humidifier/dp/B000AF78KU/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8qid=1419913787sr=8-2keywords=medisana+ultrasonic
 
 ..but I see the going price has more than doubled since I bought mine.
 
 ode
 
 
 
 On 12/29/2014 8:53 PM, Walter Anderson wrote:
 Hello all,
 I don’t write here often, but often read and appreciate the information and 
 viewpoints you all share; thanks!
 Based on input here, we ended up getting a Pure Water Mini Classic CT 
 distiller and SG7 and are very happy with them. There are certainly more 
 affordable ways to get the job done, but if it fits in the budget (and 
 space…) these are nice to work with and make it relatively easy to make 
 gallons of consistent CS/EIS (I understand the SG7 makes mostly EIS and some 
 CS).
 We’ve been hesitant to drink much of the CS/EIS as we don’t want to 
 interfere with gut flora. And we also understand the stomach is not an 
 efficient route to get it into other areas of the body (unless you haven’t 
 been eating so long that your stomach is no longer producing hydrochloric 
 acid). So we’ve been swishing it in our mouths for minute(s) and then 
 spitting it out. So far this has seemed to resolve any sensitivity in 
 teethe/gums fairly quickly (from one several minute swish to repeated ones 
 over 2-3 days). It also seems to help some with sore throat symptoms. Also 
 tried spraying a bit into each ear canal today when soreness headed that way 
 (some kind of flu that has given us mostly mild symptoms) and it seemed to 
 help quite a bit.
 This leads to the nebulizer question. We’d like an efficient way to get 
 CS/EIS into other areas of the body—not really looking to get it into the 
 gut. Nebulizing seems like a good way to do this. Questions:
 1.   How much would you take at once when nebulizing? For instance, is 
 the 7 mL capacity of this vibrating mesh nebulizer (which can nebulize 
 everything you put into it with none left over) sufficient?
 2.   Any reason—other than price—why one would NOT want that model 
 nebulizer?
 3.   Any other nebulizer you’d recommend that would be similarly 
 compact, convenient, and fast (this one is supposed to be quite 
 fast/efficient for shorter dose times) for use both at home and while 
 travelling?
 Other cautions, advice, and recommendations are all welcome.
 Best regards,
 Walter
 
 
 
   
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RE: CSCS Nebulizer Recommendations?

2014-12-30 Thread Neville


From: walter.ander...@outlook.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2014 17:53:40 -0800
Subject: CSCS Nebulizer Recommendations?

Hello all,I don’t write here often, but often read and appreciate the 
information and viewpoints you all share; thanks!Based on input here, we ended 
up getting a Pure Water Mini Classic CT distiller and SG7 and are very happy 
with them. There are certainly more affordable ways to get the job done, but if 
it fits in the budget (and space…) these are nice to work with and make it 
relatively easy to make gallons of consistent CS/EIS (I understand the SG7 
makes mostly EIS and some CS).
We’ve been hesitant to drink much of the CS/EIS as we don’t want to interfere 
with gut flora. And we also understand the stomach is not an efficient route to 
get it into other areas of the body (unless you haven’t been eating so long 
that your stomach is no longer producing hydrochloric acid). So we’ve been 
swishing it in our mouths for minute(s) and then spitting it out. So far this 
has seemed to resolve any sensitivity in teethe/gums fairly quickly (from one 
several minute swish to repeated ones over 2-3 days). It also seems to help 
some with sore throat symptoms. Also tried spraying a bit into each ear canal 
today when soreness headed that way (some kind of flu that has given us mostly 
mild symptoms) and it seemed to help quite a bit.
## I can only pass comment from a personal perspective on this passage...I 
ingest a small maintenance? amount each morning before breakfast when the 
mouth is driest by swallowing half immediately and swishing other half around 
under the tongue for a few minutes, then I swallow that.  If I feel onset of 
cold/flu I ingest a 250ml/8 ounce glass morning and night for 1-3 days 
{swishing and swallowing}, and preferably freshly made to try and maximise ion 
intake.  My gut flora has never been compromised in all the years I've been 
ingesting my home made stuff, either freshly made or from storage.
A few years ago a family member developed white lesions? on tonsils, which is 
usually a sign of onset of tonsillitis, a glass of silver swished/gargled and 
then swallowed, and then a mouthful gargled and swallowed on odd occasions 
throughout the day got rid of those lesions by the next day.  I had trouble 
accepting and believing that would be possible, but seeing it forced me to 
believe it.
N.

Other cautions, advice, and recommendations are all welcome.Best regards,
Walter

CSCS Nebulizer Recommendations?

2014-12-29 Thread Walter Anderson
Hello all,

I don't write here often, but often read and appreciate the information and
viewpoints you all share; thanks!

Based on input here, we ended up getting a Pure Water Mini Classic CT
distiller and SG7 and are very happy with them. There are certainly more
affordable ways to get the job done, but if it fits in the budget (and
space.) these are nice to work with and make it relatively easy to make
gallons of consistent CS/EIS (I understand the SG7 makes mostly EIS and some
CS).

We've been hesitant to drink much of the CS/EIS as we don't want to
interfere with gut flora. And we also understand the stomach is not an
efficient route to get it into other areas of the body (unless you haven't
been eating so long that your stomach is no longer producing hydrochloric
acid). So we've been swishing it in our mouths for minute(s) and then
spitting it out. So far this has seemed to resolve any sensitivity in
teethe/gums fairly quickly (from one several minute swish to repeated ones
over 2-3 days). It also seems to help some with sore throat symptoms. Also
tried spraying a bit into each ear canal today when soreness headed that way
(some kind of flu that has given us mostly mild symptoms) and it seemed to
help quite a bit.

This leads to the nebulizer question. We'd like an efficient way to get
CS/EIS into other areas of the body-not really looking to get it into the
gut. Nebulizing seems like a good way to do this. Questions:

1.   How much would you take at once when nebulizing? For instance, is
the 7 mL capacity of this vibrating mesh nebulizer
http://justnebulizers.com/respiratory-blog/what-is-vibrating-mesh-technolog
y/  (which can nebulize everything you put into it with none left over)
sufficient?

2.   Any reason-other than price-why one would NOT want that model
nebulizer?

3.   Any other nebulizer you'd recommend that would be similarly
compact, convenient, and fast (this one is supposed to be quite
fast/efficient for shorter dose times) for use both at home and while
travelling?

Other cautions, advice, and recommendations are all welcome.

Best regards,
Walter

 



Re: CSCS Nebulizer Recommendations?

2014-12-29 Thread Ode Coyote

The Medisana Ultrasonic Personal Humidifier is AWESOME

http://www.amazon.com/Medisana-Hah1500EBP-Ultrasonic-Personal-Humidifier/dp/B000AF78KU/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8qid=1419913787sr=8-2keywords=medisana+ultrasonic

..but I see the going price has more than doubled since I bought mine.

ode



On 12/29/2014 8:53 PM, Walter Anderson wrote:


Hello all,

I don’t write here often, but often read and appreciate the 
information and viewpoints you all share; thanks!


Based on input here, we ended up getting a Pure Water Mini Classic CT 
distiller and SG7 and are very happy with them. There are certainly 
more affordable ways to get the job done, but if it fits in the budget 
(and space…) these are nice to work with and make it relatively easy 
to make gallons of consistent CS/EIS (I understand the SG7 makes 
mostly EIS and some CS).


We’ve been hesitant to drink much of the CS/EIS as we don’t want to 
interfere with gut flora. And we also understand the stomach is not an 
efficient route to get it into other areas of the body (unless you 
haven’t been eating so long that your stomach is no longer producing 
hydrochloric acid). So we’ve been swishing it in our mouths for 
minute(s) and then spitting it out. So far this has seemed to resolve 
any sensitivity in teethe/gums fairly quickly (from one several minute 
swish to repeated ones over 2-3 days). It also seems to help some with 
sore throat symptoms. Also tried spraying a bit into each ear canal 
today when soreness headed that way (some kind of flu that has given 
us mostly mild symptoms) and it seemed to help quite a bit.


This leads to the nebulizer question. We’d like an efficient way to 
get CS/EIS into other areas of the body—not really looking to get it 
into the gut. Nebulizing seems like a good way to do this. Questions:


1.How much would you take at once when nebulizing? For instance, is 
the 7 mL capacity of this vibrating mesh nebulizer 
http://justnebulizers.com/respiratory-blog/what-is-vibrating-mesh-technology/ 
(which can nebulize everything you put into it with none left over) 
sufficient?


2.Any reason—other than price—why one would NOT want that model nebulizer?

3.Any other nebulizer you’d recommend that would be similarly compact, 
convenient, and fast (this one is supposed to be quite fast/efficient 
for shorter dose times) for use both at home and while travelling?


Other cautions, advice, and recommendations are all welcome.

Best regards,
Walter





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CSCS Ozone

2014-11-15 Thread Rick
Been watching the list for a while, thought I comment about discussions 
of CS  Ozone.


Several years ago, I believe I contracted Giardia from eating mint 
planted outside that the rodents played in. I had intestinal issues for 
months which happened cyclically, every 2 weeks. I tried all sorts of 
things on it: Colloidal Silver, zapper, secnars, etc and nothing worked. 
One morning I had an epiphany, and decided to ozonate my colloidal 
silver. Literally, as I was drinking it, I could tell it was killing 
them and never had a problem since.


I have done a bunch of research and really haven't found much research 
about ozonated colloidal silver. Anyone have any experience?



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Re: CSCS Ozone

2014-11-15 Thread Jason

Hi Rick:

You can get a very similar effect by combing just a bit of H2O2 to 
colloidal silver just prior to consuming it. Since the H2O2 is quite a 
bit less reactive than ozone, the oxidation effect can last quite a bit 
longer.


Remember, you can power a race car by oxidizing silver particles with 
oxygen.


The ozone/h2o2 atomizes some silver particles, while oxidizing others 
(the oxidized particles eventually drop out of suspension).  You get a 
very wide range of interesting silver/oxygen species.


Using too much reactive oxygen will eventually result in the 
elimination of all silver particles in solution.


When you add a drop of H2O2 and your home brew EIS turns brown, it means 
you have a very poor end product (relatively speaking) too many 
sparklies or large particles.  I check every batch of EIS I make with 
H2O2.


Usually, a bad batch means I didn't clean the electrodes well enough 
before brewing, or the container/distilled water wasn't as pure as I'd like.


~Jason


On 11/15/2014 7:59 AM, Rick wrote:

Been watching the list for a while, thought I comment about discussions
of CS  Ozone.

Several years ago, I believe I contracted Giardia from eating mint
planted outside that the rodents played in. I had intestinal issues for
months which happened cyclically, every 2 weeks. I tried all sorts of
things on it: Colloidal Silver, zapper, secnars, etc and nothing worked.
One morning I had an epiphany, and decided to ozonate my colloidal
silver. Literally, as I was drinking it, I could tell it was killing
them and never had a problem since.

I have done a bunch of research and really haven't found much research
about ozonated colloidal silver. Anyone have any experience?


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Re: CSCS Ozone

2014-11-15 Thread Gail Naranjo
Hi Jason,
So do you add a drop to every time you take the CS or just a drop of it to the 
whole batch?  I make it a quart at a time and only take a swig of it daily.   
To make it more effective how much would I add to the daily swig?
This is very interesting.
Gail 

 On Saturday, November 15, 2014 9:17 AM, Jason ja...@eytonsearth.org 
wrote:
   

 Hi Rick:

You can get a very similar effect by combing just a bit of H2O2 to 
colloidal silver just prior to consuming it. Since the H2O2 is quite a 
bit less reactive than ozone, the oxidation effect can last quite a bit 
longer.

Remember, you can power a race car by oxidizing silver particles with 
oxygen.

The ozone/h2o2 atomizes some silver particles, while oxidizing others 
(the oxidized particles eventually drop out of suspension).  You get a 
very wide range of interesting silver/oxygen species.

Using too much reactive oxygen will eventually result in the 
elimination of all silver particles in solution.

When you add a drop of H2O2 and your home brew EIS turns brown, it means 
you have a very poor end product (relatively speaking) too many 
sparklies or large particles.  I check every batch of EIS I make with 
H2O2.

Usually, a bad batch means I didn't clean the electrodes well enough 
before brewing, or the container/distilled water wasn't as pure as I'd like.

~Jason


On 11/15/2014 7:59 AM, Rick wrote:
 Been watching the list for a while, thought I comment about discussions
 of CS  Ozone.

 Several years ago, I believe I contracted Giardia from eating mint
 planted outside that the rodents played in. I had intestinal issues for
 months which happened cyclically, every 2 weeks. I tried all sorts of
 things on it: Colloidal Silver, zapper, secnars, etc and nothing worked.
 One morning I had an epiphany, and decided to ozonate my colloidal
 silver. Literally, as I was drinking it, I could tell it was killing
 them and never had a problem since.

 I have done a bunch of research and really haven't found much research
 about ozonated colloidal silver. Anyone have any experience?


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Re: CSCS Ozone

2014-11-15 Thread PT Ferrance
Did you do any rectal insufflations?  If you did, I wonder why the ozonated EIS 
would work and insufflation would not.
Thanks for the info on ozonating EIS.  I have been wondering about this myself. 
 Did you use an oxygen tank as your source of oxygen?

PT

 



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To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2014 10:59 AM
Subject: CSCS  Ozone
 

Been watching the list for a while, thought I comment about discussions 
of CS  Ozone.

Several years ago, I believe I contracted Giardia from eating mint 
planted outside that the rodents played in. I had intestinal issues for 
months which happened cyclically, every 2 weeks. I tried all sorts of 
things on it: Colloidal Silver, zapper, secnars, etc and nothing worked. 
One morning I had an epiphany, and decided to ozonate my colloidal 
silver. Literally, as I was drinking it, I could tell it was killing 
them and never had a problem since.

I have done a bunch of research and really haven't found much research 
about ozonated colloidal silver. Anyone have any experience?


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Re: CSCS Ozone

2014-11-15 Thread Tre
Hi how did you ozonate your silver?  Could you pls forward a schetch
Of your ozone set up. I really do not know construction stuff but have heard of 
ozone for home use but have not seen a set up. I'd like to do this. 
I have done sublingual applications and added ozone to my glands using a photon 
genie. So different delivery but had good results. 
Sincerely tre
lymeover.com Natural forces within us are the true healers of disease - 
Hippocrates. So our own far infra red is produced and sent into us with 
variable temperatures.  Ask today how this can happen. Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 15, 2014, at 7:59 AM, Rick mtnb...@exwire.com wrote:

 Been watching the list for a while, thought I comment about discussions of CS 
  Ozone.
 
 Several years ago, I believe I contracted Giardia from eating mint planted 
 outside that the rodents played in. I had intestinal issues for months which 
 happened cyclically, every 2 weeks. I tried all sorts of things on it: 
 Colloidal Silver, zapper, secnars, etc and nothing worked. One morning I had 
 an epiphany, and decided to ozonate my colloidal silver. Literally, as I was 
 drinking it, I could tell it was killing them and never had a problem since.
 
 I have done a bunch of research and really haven't found much research about 
 ozonated colloidal silver. Anyone have any experience?
 
 
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Re: CSCS Ozone

2014-11-15 Thread Jason

Hi Gail:

for the best effect, add it about three minutes before drinking.

If you are interested to see the reaction, just get a red laser 
pointer, and you can watch the reaction.


~Jason

On 11/15/2014 8:39 AM, Gail Naranjo wrote:

Hi Jason,

So do you add a drop to every time you take the CS or just a drop of it
to the whole batch?  I make it a quart at a time and only take a swig of
it daily.   To make it more effective how much would I add to the daily
swig?

This is very interesting.

Gail


On Saturday, November 15, 2014 9:17 AM, Jason ja...@eytonsearth.org wrote:


Hi Rick:

You can get a very similar effect by combing just a bit of H2O2 to
colloidal silver just prior to consuming it. Since the H2O2 is quite a
bit less reactive than ozone, the oxidation effect can last quite a bit
longer.

Remember, you can power a race car by oxidizing silver particles with
oxygen.

The ozone/h2o2 atomizes some silver particles, while oxidizing others
(the oxidized particles eventually drop out of suspension).  You get a
very wide range of interesting silver/oxygen species.

Using too much reactive oxygen will eventually result in the
elimination of all silver particles in solution.

When you add a drop of H2O2 and your home brew EIS turns brown, it means
you have a very poor end product (relatively speaking) too many
sparklies or large particles.  I check every batch of EIS I make with
H2O2.

Usually, a bad batch means I didn't clean the electrodes well enough
before brewing, or the container/distilled water wasn't as pure as I'd like.

~Jason


On 11/15/2014 7:59 AM, Rick wrote:
  Been watching the list for a while, thought I comment about discussions
  of CS  Ozone.
 
  Several years ago, I believe I contracted Giardia from eating mint
  planted outside that the rodents played in. I had intestinal issues for
  months which happened cyclically, every 2 weeks. I tried all sorts of
  things on it: Colloidal Silver, zapper, secnars, etc and nothing worked.
  One morning I had an epiphany, and decided to ozonate my colloidal
  silver. Literally, as I was drinking it, I could tell it was killing
  them and never had a problem since.
 
  I have done a bunch of research and really haven't found much research
  about ozonated colloidal silver. Anyone have any experience?
 
 
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Re: CSCS Ozone

2014-11-15 Thread phoenix23002 tds.net
Jason.. how much HP do you add to how much CS?  Thanks.. Lola H.
On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Jason ja...@eytonsearth.org wrote:

 Hi Gail:

 for the best effect, add it about three minutes before drinking.

 If you are interested to see the reaction, just get a red laser pointer,
 and you can watch the reaction.

 ~Jason


 On 11/15/2014 8:39 AM, Gail Naranjo wrote:

  Hi Jason,

 So do you add a drop to every time you take the CS or just a drop of it
 to the whole batch?  I make it a quart at a time and only take a swig of
 it daily.   To make it more effective how much would I add to the daily
 swig?

 This is very interesting.

 Gail


 On Saturday, November 15, 2014 9:17 AM, Jason ja...@eytonsearth.org
 wrote:


 Hi Rick:

 You can get a very similar effect by combing just a bit of H2O2 to
 colloidal silver just prior to consuming it. Since the H2O2 is quite a
 bit less reactive than ozone, the oxidation effect can last quite a bit
 longer.

 Remember, you can power a race car by oxidizing silver particles with
 oxygen.

 The ozone/h2o2 atomizes some silver particles, while oxidizing others
 (the oxidized particles eventually drop out of suspension).  You get a
 very wide range of interesting silver/oxygen species.

 Using too much reactive oxygen will eventually result in the
 elimination of all silver particles in solution.

 When you add a drop of H2O2 and your home brew EIS turns brown, it means
 you have a very poor end product (relatively speaking) too many
 sparklies or large particles.  I check every batch of EIS I make with
 H2O2.

 Usually, a bad batch means I didn't clean the electrodes well enough
 before brewing, or the container/distilled water wasn't as pure as I'd
 like.

 ~Jason


 On 11/15/2014 7:59 AM, Rick wrote:
   Been watching the list for a while, thought I comment about discussions
   of CS  Ozone.
  
   Several years ago, I believe I contracted Giardia from eating mint
   planted outside that the rodents played in. I had intestinal issues for
   months which happened cyclically, every 2 weeks. I tried all sorts of
   things on it: Colloidal Silver, zapper, secnars, etc and nothing
 worked.
   One morning I had an epiphany, and decided to ozonate my colloidal
   silver. Literally, as I was drinking it, I could tell it was killing
   them and never had a problem since.
  
   I have done a bunch of research and really haven't found much research
   about ozonated colloidal silver. Anyone have any experience?
  
  
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Re: CSCS Ozone

2014-11-15 Thread Jason

Hi Lola:

To get the reaction, you only need very little H2O2. One drop of 3% H2O2 
to four ounces of EIS is more than plenty to enduce the reaction.


The more H2O2 you use, the more you approach doing H2O2 oral therapy.

I myself would add 3-4 drops of 35% H2O2; however, this would make some 
people ill and isn't necessary (see the pro and con research on oral 
hydrogen peroxide therapy).


~Jason


On 11/15/2014 9:39 AM, phoenix23002 tds.net wrote:

Jason.. how much HP do you add to how much CS?  Thanks.. Lola H.
On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Jason ja...@eytonsearth.org
mailto:ja...@eytonsearth.org wrote:

Hi Gail:

for the best effect, add it about three minutes before drinking.

If you are interested to see the reaction, just get a red laser
pointer, and you can watch the reaction.

~Jason


On 11/15/2014 8:39 AM, Gail Naranjo wrote:

Hi Jason,

So do you add a drop to every time you take the CS or just a
drop of it
to the whole batch?  I make it a quart at a time and only take a
swig of
it daily.   To make it more effective how much would I add to
the daily
swig?

This is very interesting.

Gail


On Saturday, November 15, 2014 9:17 AM, Jason
ja...@eytonsearth.org mailto:ja...@eytonsearth.org wrote:


Hi Rick:

You can get a very similar effect by combing just a bit of H2O2 to
colloidal silver just prior to consuming it. Since the H2O2 is
quite a
bit less reactive than ozone, the oxidation effect can last
quite a bit
longer.

Remember, you can power a race car by oxidizing silver particles
with
oxygen.

The ozone/h2o2 atomizes some silver particles, while oxidizing
others
(the oxidized particles eventually drop out of suspension).  You
get a
very wide range of interesting silver/oxygen species.

Using too much reactive oxygen will eventually result in the
elimination of all silver particles in solution.

When you add a drop of H2O2 and your home brew EIS turns brown,
it means
you have a very poor end product (relatively speaking) too many
sparklies or large particles.  I check every batch of EIS I
make with
H2O2.

Usually, a bad batch means I didn't clean the electrodes well enough
before brewing, or the container/distilled water wasn't as pure
as I'd like.

~Jason


On 11/15/2014 7:59 AM, Rick wrote:
   Been watching the list for a while, thought I comment about
discussions
   of CS  Ozone.
  
   Several years ago, I believe I contracted Giardia from
eating mint
   planted outside that the rodents played in. I had intestinal
issues for
   months which happened cyclically, every 2 weeks. I tried all
sorts of
   things on it: Colloidal Silver, zapper, secnars, etc and
nothing worked.
   One morning I had an epiphany, and decided to ozonate my
colloidal
   silver. Literally, as I was drinking it, I could tell it was
killing
   them and never had a problem since.
  
   I have done a bunch of research and really haven't found
much research
   about ozonated colloidal silver. Anyone have any experience?
  
  
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Re: CSCS Ozone

2014-11-15 Thread Joe Huard

Hi Jason,
I did that today for the first time, and there was no reaction with a 
red laser shining through a glass of EIS made with my Colloid Master. Is 
that good or not so good?

Joe
On 2014-11-15 1:00 PM, Jason wrote:

Hi Lola:

To get the reaction, you only need very little H2O2. One drop of 3% 
H2O2 to four ounces of EIS is more than plenty to enduce the reaction.


The more H2O2 you use, the more you approach doing H2O2 oral therapy.

I myself would add 3-4 drops of 35% H2O2; however, this would make 
some people ill and isn't necessary (see the pro and con research on 
oral hydrogen peroxide therapy).


~Jason


On 11/15/2014 9:39 AM, phoenix23002 tds.net wrote:

Jason.. how much HP do you add to how much CS?  Thanks.. Lola H.
On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Jason ja...@eytonsearth.org
mailto:ja...@eytonsearth.org wrote:

Hi Gail:

for the best effect, add it about three minutes before drinking.

If you are interested to see the reaction, just get a red laser
pointer, and you can watch the reaction.

~Jason


On 11/15/2014 8:39 AM, Gail Naranjo wrote:

Hi Jason,

So do you add a drop to every time you take the CS or just a
drop of it
to the whole batch?  I make it a quart at a time and only take a
swig of
it daily.   To make it more effective how much would I add to
the daily
swig?

This is very interesting.

Gail


On Saturday, November 15, 2014 9:17 AM, Jason
ja...@eytonsearth.org mailto:ja...@eytonsearth.org wrote:


Hi Rick:

You can get a very similar effect by combing just a bit of 
H2O2 to

colloidal silver just prior to consuming it. Since the H2O2 is
quite a
bit less reactive than ozone, the oxidation effect can last
quite a bit
longer.

Remember, you can power a race car by oxidizing silver particles
with
oxygen.

The ozone/h2o2 atomizes some silver particles, while oxidizing
others
(the oxidized particles eventually drop out of suspension).  You
get a
very wide range of interesting silver/oxygen species.

Using too much reactive oxygen will eventually result in the
elimination of all silver particles in solution.

When you add a drop of H2O2 and your home brew EIS turns brown,
it means
you have a very poor end product (relatively speaking) 
too many

sparklies or large particles.  I check every batch of EIS I
make with
H2O2.

Usually, a bad batch means I didn't clean the electrodes well 
enough

before brewing, or the container/distilled water wasn't as pure
as I'd like.

~Jason


On 11/15/2014 7:59 AM, Rick wrote:
   Been watching the list for a while, thought I comment about
discussions
   of CS  Ozone.
  
   Several years ago, I believe I contracted Giardia from
eating mint
   planted outside that the rodents played in. I had intestinal
issues for
   months which happened cyclically, every 2 weeks. I tried all
sorts of
   things on it: Colloidal Silver, zapper, secnars, etc and
nothing worked.
   One morning I had an epiphany, and decided to ozonate my
colloidal
   silver. Literally, as I was drinking it, I could tell it was
killing
   them and never had a problem since.
  
   I have done a bunch of research and really haven't found
much research
   about ozonated colloidal silver. Anyone have any experience?
  
  
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Re: CSCS Ozone

2014-11-15 Thread Ode Coyote
H2O2 will only turn it brown if the EIS is fresh. [before conductivity 
stops dropping once power is off]
 If it has 'aged' [stabilized] for a few days, it will clear up over 
night if it WAS brown [but not made brown with H2O2] or yellow.


H2O2 will both form silver oxides and destroy silver oxides depending on 
when you use it.


Used at 3% it will clean up an oxide blackened electrode pretty fast, 
then turn it black again later on.


Ode


On 11/15/2014 3:31 PM, Joe Huard wrote:

Hi Jason,
I did that today for the first time, and there was no reaction with a 
red laser shining through a glass of EIS made with my Colloid Master. 
Is that good or not so good?

Joe
On 2014-11-15 1:00 PM, Jason wrote:

Hi Lola:

To get the reaction, you only need very little H2O2. One drop of 3% 
H2O2 to four ounces of EIS is more than plenty to enduce the reaction.


The more H2O2 you use, the more you approach doing H2O2 oral therapy.

I myself would add 3-4 drops of 35% H2O2; however, this would make 
some people ill and isn't necessary (see the pro and con research on 
oral hydrogen peroxide therapy).


~Jason


On 11/15/2014 9:39 AM, phoenix23002 tds.net wrote:

Jason.. how much HP do you add to how much CS?  Thanks.. Lola H.
On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Jason ja...@eytonsearth.org
mailto:ja...@eytonsearth.org wrote:

Hi Gail:

for the best effect, add it about three minutes before drinking.

If you are interested to see the reaction, just get a red laser
pointer, and you can watch the reaction.

~Jason


On 11/15/2014 8:39 AM, Gail Naranjo wrote:

Hi Jason,

So do you add a drop to every time you take the CS or just a
drop of it
to the whole batch?  I make it a quart at a time and only 
take a

swig of
it daily.   To make it more effective how much would I add to
the daily
swig?

This is very interesting.

Gail


On Saturday, November 15, 2014 9:17 AM, Jason
ja...@eytonsearth.org mailto:ja...@eytonsearth.org wrote:


Hi Rick:

You can get a very similar effect by combing just a bit of 
H2O2 to

colloidal silver just prior to consuming it. Since the H2O2 is
quite a
bit less reactive than ozone, the oxidation effect can last
quite a bit
longer.

Remember, you can power a race car by oxidizing silver 
particles

with
oxygen.

The ozone/h2o2 atomizes some silver particles, while oxidizing
others
(the oxidized particles eventually drop out of suspension).  
You

get a
very wide range of interesting silver/oxygen species.

Using too much reactive oxygen will eventually result in the
elimination of all silver particles in solution.

When you add a drop of H2O2 and your home brew EIS turns brown,
it means
you have a very poor end product (relatively speaking) 
too many

sparklies or large particles.  I check every batch of EIS I
make with
H2O2.

Usually, a bad batch means I didn't clean the electrodes 
well enough

before brewing, or the container/distilled water wasn't as pure
as I'd like.

~Jason


On 11/15/2014 7:59 AM, Rick wrote:
   Been watching the list for a while, thought I comment about
discussions
   of CS  Ozone.
  
   Several years ago, I believe I contracted Giardia from
eating mint
   planted outside that the rodents played in. I had 
intestinal

issues for
   months which happened cyclically, every 2 weeks. I tried 
all

sorts of
   things on it: Colloidal Silver, zapper, secnars, etc and
nothing worked.
   One morning I had an epiphany, and decided to ozonate my
colloidal
   silver. Literally, as I was drinking it, I could tell it 
was

killing
   them and never had a problem since.
  
   I have done a bunch of research and really haven't found
much research
   about ozonated colloidal silver. Anyone have any 
experience?

  
  
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Re: CSCS Ozone

2014-11-15 Thread Jason

Hi Joe:

The 'visible' reaction via the tyndall effect only occurs when H2O2 
reacts with silver particles.


If your brew doesn't have a strong tyndall effect to begin with, then 
you won't be able to visually see the effect with a laser.


~Jason


On 11/15/2014 12:31 PM, Joe Huard wrote:

Hi Jason,
I did that today for the first time, and there was no reaction with a
red laser shining through a glass of EIS made with my Colloid Master. Is
that good or not so good?
Joe
On 2014-11-15 1:00 PM, Jason wrote:

Hi Lola:

To get the reaction, you only need very little H2O2. One drop of 3%
H2O2 to four ounces of EIS is more than plenty to enduce the reaction.

The more H2O2 you use, the more you approach doing H2O2 oral therapy.

I myself would add 3-4 drops of 35% H2O2; however, this would make
some people ill and isn't necessary (see the pro and con research on
oral hydrogen peroxide therapy).

~Jason


On 11/15/2014 9:39 AM, phoenix23002 tds.net wrote:

Jason.. how much HP do you add to how much CS?  Thanks.. Lola H.
On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Jason ja...@eytonsearth.org
mailto:ja...@eytonsearth.org wrote:

Hi Gail:

for the best effect, add it about three minutes before drinking.

If you are interested to see the reaction, just get a red laser
pointer, and you can watch the reaction.

~Jason


On 11/15/2014 8:39 AM, Gail Naranjo wrote:

Hi Jason,

So do you add a drop to every time you take the CS or just a
drop of it
to the whole batch?  I make it a quart at a time and only take a
swig of
it daily.   To make it more effective how much would I add to
the daily
swig?

This is very interesting.

Gail


On Saturday, November 15, 2014 9:17 AM, Jason
ja...@eytonsearth.org mailto:ja...@eytonsearth.org wrote:


Hi Rick:

You can get a very similar effect by combing just a bit of
H2O2 to
colloidal silver just prior to consuming it. Since the H2O2 is
quite a
bit less reactive than ozone, the oxidation effect can last
quite a bit
longer.

Remember, you can power a race car by oxidizing silver particles
with
oxygen.

The ozone/h2o2 atomizes some silver particles, while oxidizing
others
(the oxidized particles eventually drop out of suspension).  You
get a
very wide range of interesting silver/oxygen species.

Using too much reactive oxygen will eventually result in the
elimination of all silver particles in solution.

When you add a drop of H2O2 and your home brew EIS turns brown,
it means
you have a very poor end product (relatively speaking)
too many
sparklies or large particles.  I check every batch of EIS I
make with
H2O2.

Usually, a bad batch means I didn't clean the electrodes well
enough
before brewing, or the container/distilled water wasn't as pure
as I'd like.

~Jason


On 11/15/2014 7:59 AM, Rick wrote:
   Been watching the list for a while, thought I comment about
discussions
   of CS  Ozone.
  
   Several years ago, I believe I contracted Giardia from
eating mint
   planted outside that the rodents played in. I had intestinal
issues for
   months which happened cyclically, every 2 weeks. I tried all
sorts of
   things on it: Colloidal Silver, zapper, secnars, etc and
nothing worked.
   One morning I had an epiphany, and decided to ozonate my
colloidal
   silver. Literally, as I was drinking it, I could tell it was
killing
   them and never had a problem since.
  
   I have done a bunch of research and really haven't found
much research
   about ozonated colloidal silver. Anyone have any experience?
  
  
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Re: CSCS Ozone

2014-11-15 Thread Ode Coyote
It reacts with silver ions, oxidizing them into silver oxide particles 
that will show a brown pigment.
Once the EIS has stabilized [Hydrated?] if there are any silver oxide 
particles, H2O2 will destroy them.
If an agglomeration  crystal has nucleated around a silver oxide 
particle, destroying the nucleus will break the crystal apart.

Ode


On 11/15/2014 5:59 PM, Jason wrote:

Hi Joe:

The 'visible' reaction via the tyndall effect only occurs when H2O2 
reacts with silver particles.


If your brew doesn't have a strong tyndall effect to begin with, then 
you won't be able to visually see the effect with a laser.


~Jason


On 11/15/2014 12:31 PM, Joe Huard wrote:

Hi Jason,
I did that today for the first time, and there was no reaction with a
red laser shining through a glass of EIS made with my Colloid Master. Is
that good or not so good?
Joe
On 2014-11-15 1:00 PM, Jason wrote:

Hi Lola:

To get the reaction, you only need very little H2O2. One drop of 3%
H2O2 to four ounces of EIS is more than plenty to enduce the reaction.

The more H2O2 you use, the more you approach doing H2O2 oral therapy.

I myself would add 3-4 drops of 35% H2O2; however, this would make
some people ill and isn't necessary (see the pro and con research on
oral hydrogen peroxide therapy).

~Jason


On 11/15/2014 9:39 AM, phoenix23002 tds.net wrote:

Jason.. how much HP do you add to how much CS?  Thanks.. Lola H.
On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Jason ja...@eytonsearth.org
mailto:ja...@eytonsearth.org wrote:

Hi Gail:

for the best effect, add it about three minutes before drinking.

If you are interested to see the reaction, just get a red laser
pointer, and you can watch the reaction.

~Jason


On 11/15/2014 8:39 AM, Gail Naranjo wrote:

Hi Jason,

So do you add a drop to every time you take the CS or just a
drop of it
to the whole batch?  I make it a quart at a time and only 
take a

swig of
it daily.   To make it more effective how much would I add to
the daily
swig?

This is very interesting.

Gail


On Saturday, November 15, 2014 9:17 AM, Jason
ja...@eytonsearth.org mailto:ja...@eytonsearth.org wrote:


Hi Rick:

You can get a very similar effect by combing just a bit of
H2O2 to
colloidal silver just prior to consuming it. Since the H2O2 is
quite a
bit less reactive than ozone, the oxidation effect can last
quite a bit
longer.

Remember, you can power a race car by oxidizing silver 
particles

with
oxygen.

The ozone/h2o2 atomizes some silver particles, while oxidizing
others
(the oxidized particles eventually drop out of 
suspension).  You

get a
very wide range of interesting silver/oxygen species.

Using too much reactive oxygen will eventually result in the
elimination of all silver particles in solution.

When you add a drop of H2O2 and your home brew EIS turns 
brown,

it means
you have a very poor end product (relatively speaking)
too many
sparklies or large particles.  I check every batch of EIS I
make with
H2O2.

Usually, a bad batch means I didn't clean the electrodes well
enough
before brewing, or the container/distilled water wasn't as 
pure

as I'd like.

~Jason


On 11/15/2014 7:59 AM, Rick wrote:
   Been watching the list for a while, thought I comment 
about

discussions
   of CS  Ozone.
  
   Several years ago, I believe I contracted Giardia from
eating mint
   planted outside that the rodents played in. I had 
intestinal

issues for
   months which happened cyclically, every 2 weeks. I 
tried all

sorts of
   things on it: Colloidal Silver, zapper, secnars, etc and
nothing worked.
   One morning I had an epiphany, and decided to ozonate my
colloidal
   silver. Literally, as I was drinking it, I could tell 
it was

killing
   them and never had a problem since.
  
   I have done a bunch of research and really haven't found
much research
   about ozonated colloidal silver. Anyone have any 
experience?

  
  
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Re: CSCS Ozone

2014-11-15 Thread Olushola Camara
The SOTA WOZ http://sota.com  can be used as an ozone generator. Also 2
medical grade generators are sold at http://www.plasmafire.com
http://www.plasmafire.com./

Olushola


CSCS Ozone

2014-11-15 Thread Rick
When I added the ozone into the Colloidal Silver, there was no color 
change. I didn't use hydrogen peroxide, I was generating the ozone 
directly and inputing into the solution. The solution tasted like 
ozone, and I doubt a few drops of hydrogen peroxide would have this 
overpowering taste. I'm not a scientist, so I don't exactly know what 
happened, but it seemed to amplify the effects of the CS.


I tried the CS alone, with no effect (along with a lot of other 
alternative stuff) and only when I added the ozone directly into the 
solution, did I get immediate results.


There was no color change in the solution- it was clear both before and 
after.




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Re: CSCS - Virus

2014-11-03 Thread Dee
Thanks Mike, that really explains things well.  I read somewhere that viruses 
can also have a strand of RNA as well and are actually not organic at all.  
Have you heard of this? Dee

Sent from my iPad

 On 3 Nov 2014, at 02:07, M.G. Devour mdev...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Sandee wrote:
 ... my understanding is that a virus is NOT a pathogen, my
 understanding is that a pathogen is a single cell organism with no
 protection of any kind and does not hide anywhere for protection...
 
 Hi Sandee,
 
 Pathogen is a general term for any disease causing organism...
 
 From Wikipedia (an adequate source in this case...):
 
 A pathogen ... in the oldest and broadest sense is anything that can
 produce disease. Typically the term is used to mean an infectious
 agent (colloquially known as a germ) — a microorganism, in the widest
 sense such as a virus, bacterium, prion, fungus or protozoan, that
 causes disease in its host.
 
 So, it's the kind of word that distinguishes what ails you from toxins,
 injury, nutrient deficiency, or autoimmune stuff, for a few examples. If
 it's pathogenic in origin, it means you got infected somehow.
 
 So, you'll need to understand the biology of each of the general types
 of pathogens and treat them as separate things in your mind.
 
 If you look up the above listed types of pathogen you'll get a
 description of what each one is and does...
 
 Just off the top of my head...
 
 Virus: A strand of DNA, possibly with an additional sheath of protein,
 but no cell wall or protoplasm (gooey stuff inside a cell). It's pretty
 much a simple piece of protein that happens to be able to sneak into a
 host cell and trick it into using the cell's own reproductive apparatus
 to reproduce the *virus*. It is not a cell, in and of itself. It's much
 smaller than a cell and needs a living cell to serve as a host.
 
 Bacterium: single celled organism with (usually) a cell wall, cell
 membrane, nucleus containing DNA, and other internal structures along
 with protoplasm (aforesaid gooey stuff). There are a handful of general
 types, determined mostly by their shape under the microscope: cocci
 (round) bacilli (bar or rod shaped), spirochete (spiral shaped). They're
 generally on the same order of size as many types of cells or often
 somewhat smaller. They can themselves be infected by viruses!
 
 And so on for prions, fungi or protozoa... In this case, wikipedia can
 be your friend. They'll at least get these basic definitions right.
 
 ... why CS without any carrier can kill by itself 
 
 We know that it can and does, provided it can get to the germs causing
 the problem. A carrier like DMSO might help silver get past membranes
 into cells, or the spaces between cells, or into mucus... anyplace that
 pathogens might set up housekeeping and silver might normally be slower
 or prevented entirely from penetrating.
 
 Other treatments you might try alongside silver may do different things
 and their effectiveness might combine favorably... but it might not be
 correct to call them carriers if that's not what they're actually
 doing. There might be synergy where the effect is greater than the sum
 of the parts, or their effects might just add together simply and leave
 you no way of knowing how much is because of which thing you're doing...
 Not altogether a bad thing so long as you're getting better, but not as
 informative as careful testing would be.
 
 Anyway, I hope there is a little clarity for you in all of that. You
 just have to get ahold of the pieces of the subject and make them fit
 together for you. Nothing takes the place of understanding, and that
 usually depends on some brute force studying to cram the bits and pieces
 into your brain. smile
 
 Be well,
 
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Re: CSCS - Virus

2014-11-03 Thread Sandra George
Mike thanks so very much for this clarification - it is truly welcome as I, 
from my lack of any scientific training was starting to get angry - in my book 
there is nothing like experience for teaching - my recent experience with the 
Chickenguyna virus is that CS could not and did not do the trick, - I got it 
badly after it appeared my body was out of fight - if like the herpes virus - 
it lives in the body where it has decided to lodge itself then this explains 
the continual inflammation and stiff painful joints I and others are 
experiencing- continuing to take my normal daily intake of CS will eventually 
work as it appears to have done for me in the case of herpes which I have 
suffered with from time to time over some fifty years - I am investigating 
whether taking any of the known helpers will do any good at this point of time 
as the virus is already lodged - who knows only time can and will tell - over 
time I have done all the other modalities to work on the herpes virus and none 
have killed it outright - they have all more than likely worked together to 
extend the time between out breaks however I would be kidding myself to say it 
has finally given up - my last outbreak now being four years.
So working on this assumption I ask myself will I have to endure the residue of 
the Chickenguyna for another four - which my research has told me is the time 
the virus stats in the body ?   Not 
a nice future - so as a last resort it will be back to the mind for release 
from this scourge - gone to meditate - thanks whole heaps for confirming and 
clarifying what I had read for myself - I constantly tell others to become the 
captain of their own ship - I think I need to tell myself this very seriously
Thanks I WILL be well / the same for you 
Cheers
Sandee
Attitude is everything
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Eye drops  Topical Gel
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On Nov 3, 2014, at 4:51 AM, Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote:

Thanks Mike, that really explains things well.  I read somewhere that viruses 
can also have a strand of RNA as well and are actually not organic at all.  
Have you heard of this? Dee

Sent from my iPad

 On 3 Nov 2014, at 02:07, M.G. Devour mdev...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Sandee wrote:
 ... my understanding is that a virus is NOT a pathogen, my
 understanding is that a pathogen is a single cell organism with no
 protection of any kind and does not hide anywhere for protection...
 
 Hi Sandee,
 
 Pathogen is a general term for any disease causing organism...
 
 From Wikipedia (an adequate source in this case...):
 
 A pathogen ... in the oldest and broadest sense is anything that can
 produce disease. Typically the term is used to mean an infectious
 agent (colloquially known as a germ) — a microorganism, in the widest
 sense such as a virus, bacterium, prion, fungus or protozoan, that
 causes disease in its host.
 
 So, it's the kind of word that distinguishes what ails you from toxins,
 injury, nutrient deficiency, or autoimmune stuff, for a few examples. If
 it's pathogenic in origin, it means you got infected somehow.
 
 So, you'll need to understand the biology of each of the general types
 of pathogens and treat them as separate things in your mind.
 
 If you look up the above listed types of pathogen you'll get a
 description of what each one is and does...
 
 Just off the top of my head...
 
 Virus: A strand of DNA, possibly with an additional sheath of protein,
 but no cell wall or protoplasm (gooey stuff inside a cell). It's pretty
 much a simple piece of protein that happens to be able to sneak into a
 host cell and trick it into using the cell's own reproductive apparatus
 to reproduce the *virus*. It is not a cell, in and of itself. It's much
 smaller than a cell and needs a living cell to serve as a host.
 
 Bacterium: single celled organism with (usually) a cell wall, cell
 membrane, nucleus containing DNA, and other internal structures along
 with protoplasm (aforesaid gooey stuff). There are a handful of general
 types, determined mostly by their shape under the microscope: cocci
 (round) bacilli (bar or rod shaped), spirochete (spiral shaped). They're
 generally on the same order of size as many types of cells or often
 somewhat smaller. They can themselves be infected by viruses!
 
 And so on for prions, fungi or protozoa... In this case, wikipedia can
 be your friend. They'll at least get these basic definitions right.
 
 ... why CS without any carrier can kill by itself 
 
 We know that it can and does, provided it can get to the germs causing
 the problem. A carrier like DMSO might help silver get past membranes
 into cells, or the spaces between cells, or into mucus... anyplace that
 pathogens might set up housekeeping and silver might normally be slower
 or prevented entirely from penetrating.
 
 Other treatments you might try alongside silver may do different things
 and their effectiveness might combine favorably... but it might not be
 correct to call them carriers if 

Re: CSCS - Virus

2014-11-02 Thread Leila Kostyk
I use DMSO, seems to penetrate everything. 

 On Oct 23, 2014, at 10:57 AM, Sandra George oha...@juno.com wrote:
 
 Thanks for this one Ron - what carrier would be good to penetrate the 
 encasement of the Biofilm carrying the EIS to do it’s work ? I think this 
 is the secret we are missing because the results of using EIS in Africa 
 belies so much of the chat 
 Sandee
 Attitude is everything !!!
 Sandra George
 Colloidal Silver Products
 Eye Drops  Topical Gel
 aliveagai...@yahoo.com
 
 
 
 On 23 Oct 2014, at 11:35, Ron ron@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Is that Biofilm?
 
 Biofilm: An aggregate of microbes with a distinct architecture. A biofilm is 
 like a tiny city in which microbial cells, each only a micrometer or two 
 long, form towers that can be hundreds of micrometers high. The streets 
 between the towers are really fluid-filled channels that bring in nutrients, 
 oxygen and other necessities for live biofilm communities.
 
 Biofilms form on the surface of catheter lines and contact lenses. They grow 
 on pacemakers, heart valve replacements, artificial joints and other surgical 
 implants. The CDC (Centers for Disease Control) estimate that over 65% of 
 nosocomial (hospital-acquired) infections are caused by biofilms.
 
 Bacteria growing in a biofilm are highly resistant to antibiotics, up to 
 1,000 times more resistant than the same bacteria not growing in a biofilm. 
 Standard antibiotic therapy is often useless and the only recourse may be to 
 remove the contaminated implant.
 
 Fungal biofilms also frequently contaminate medical devices. They cause 
 chronic vaginal infections and lead to life-threatening systemic infections 
 in people with hobbled immune systems.
 
 Biofilms are involved in numerous diseases. For instance, cystic 
 fibrosispatients have Pseudomonas infections that often result in antibiotic 
 resistant biofilms.
 Ron
 On 10/23/2014 8:00 AM, Sandra George wrote:
 Because of my own experience with this Chickenguyna virus I have been sent 
 back into my past   for answers - As I understand the research into virus - 
 a virus encases itself as protection - this is why EIS cannot get to kill 
 them - oxygen therapy - either ozone or hydrogen peroxide - does what ?   
 Are these modalities carriers which can penetrate the virus shields taking 
 the EIS WITH THEM TO KILL?   If this is so then using oxygen therapy along 
 with EIS would be the death to any virus - please confirm or explain how EIS 
 is successful in virus treatment which it has been proven in the case of 
 HIV, Ebola, and more, which is not discussed openly or admitted to by those 
 who would not benefit financially
 It is time for the truth or as near to as is possible
 Sandee
 Attitude is everything
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Re: CSCS - Virus

2014-11-02 Thread Victor Cozzetto
Hi Leila, Sandee,

I think there is some misunderstanding here that needs to be addressed, as
I have seen it written more than once now.

DMSO as a carrier - agreed.

My concern is about comments referring to biofilm and other carrier actions:

CS is one of the only things that DOES penetrate biofilm, and it does it
all on  its own. DMSO, MSM, MMS, etc., are not necessary for CS to do this.
(You mentioned this in another post yesterday Sandee).

CS will stop all known pathogens that it comes into contact with. It does
not need anything else to stop a virus. Stopping, disabling, etc., is the
same end result as killing. No pathogen has ever been found that can
survive silver.

I believe the confusion may come from the fact that some pathogens can hide
in parts of the body that CS cannot reach, or cannot reach in sufficient
quantity. This is where something like DMSO comes into play.

I do not personally use DMSO, but I have seen enough to believe that it
effectively augments CS. I personally use the Beck Protocol (zappers, CS,
ozonated water) when CS alone is not enough.

I saw MMS, MSM, and oxygen grouped in as carriers too, and I think this is
also not completely correct:

 - MSM can provide some DMSO, and thus be a carrier; however, I think that
carrier effect is insignificant. I believe the value of MSM is elsewhere,
and thus it is another fine tool for promoting health.

 - As for MMS, per the other discussions, I have yet to see any unique
benefit that it provides. To my knowledge it does not carry or augment CS
in any way.

 - Oxygen protocols, such as ozonated water, are excellent in my opinion,
but do not directly carry or augment CS in any way. They instead provide
additional healing and killing action, so they are also good to use with
CS. (But do not ozonate your CS!)

One of the common threads in all of the above is the challenge of getting
enough CS in contact with the pathogen. Whether that be by pushing the
pathogen to the CS, or by using DMSO, Neti pots, spray bottles, droppers,
drinking, swishing, etc. to get the CS to its target. If we get enough CS
to the target, it will stop all known pathogens, including Ebola.

If anything I have said above is incorrect, please correct me.

Victor

On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 8:57 PM, Leila Kostyk belis...@telusplanet.net
wrote:

 I use DMSO, seems to penetrate everything.

  On Oct 23, 2014, at 10:57 AM, Sandra George oha...@juno.com wrote:
 
  Thanks for this one Ron - what carrier would be good to penetrate the
 encasement of the Biofilm carrying the EIS to do it’s work ? I think
 this is the secret we are missing because the results of using EIS in
 Africa belies so much of the chat 
  Sandee
  Attitude is everything !!!
  Sandra George
  Colloidal Silver Products
  Eye Drops  Topical Gel
  aliveagai...@yahoo.com
 
 
 
  On 23 Oct 2014, at 11:35, Ron ron@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Is that Biofilm?
 
  Biofilm: An aggregate of microbes with a distinct architecture. A
 biofilm is like a tiny city in which microbial cells, each only a
 micrometer or two long, form towers that can be hundreds of micrometers
 high. The streets between the towers are really fluid-filled channels
 that bring in nutrients, oxygen and other necessities for live biofilm
 communities.
 
  Biofilms form on the surface of catheter lines and contact lenses. They
 grow on pacemakers, heart valve replacements, artificial joints and other
 surgical implants. The CDC (Centers for Disease Control) estimate that over
 65% of nosocomial (hospital-acquired) infections are caused by biofilms.
 
  Bacteria growing in a biofilm are highly resistant to antibiotics, up to
 1,000 times more resistant than the same bacteria not growing in a biofilm.
 Standard antibiotic therapy is often useless and the only recourse may be
 to remove the contaminated implant.
 
  Fungal biofilms also frequently contaminate medical devices. They cause
 chronic vaginal infections and lead to life-threatening systemic infections
 in people with hobbled immune systems.
 
  Biofilms are involved in numerous diseases. For instance, cystic
 fibrosispatients have Pseudomonas infections that often result in
 antibiotic resistant biofilms.
  Ron
  On 10/23/2014 8:00 AM, Sandra George wrote:
  Because of my own experience with this Chickenguyna virus I have been
 sent back into my past   for answers - As I understand the research into
 virus - a virus encases itself as protection - this is why EIS cannot get
 to kill them - oxygen therapy - either ozone or hydrogen peroxide - does
 what ?   Are these modalities carriers which can penetrate the virus
 shields taking the EIS WITH THEM TO KILL?   If this is so then using oxygen
 therapy along with EIS would be the death to any virus - please confirm or
 explain how EIS is successful in virus treatment which it has been proven
 in the case of HIV, Ebola, and more, which is not discussed openly or
 admitted to by those who would not benefit financially
  It is time for the 

Re: CSCS - Virus

2014-11-02 Thread Sandra George
Hi There Victor - I am confused and would like to get clarity - I understand 
that CS cannot penetrate the defence encasement of a virus - expressed in many 
ways - sack of protein, mucus, hides in nerve encasements like herpes, etc.,  
if this is not so then I am happy to be corrected, my understanding is that a 
virus is NOT a pathogen, my understanding is that a pathogen is a single cell 
organism with no protection of any kind and does not hide anywhere for 
protection, again I am happy to be corrected and would like clarity on this - 
which is why CS without any carrier can kill by itself - again if I am wrong 
please correct me.   So my final understanding is that this is why carriers or 
additional healing or combative protocols have to be introduced to assist the 
CS - again please correct me as I truly need clarity on this confusion which I 
feel has been going on now for too long.! Thanks to all who have 
endured this discussion.
Regards
Sandee
Attitude is everything !!!
Sandra George
Colloidal Silver Products
Eye Drops  Topical Gel
aliveagai...@yahoo.com



On 2 Nov 2014, at 19:59, Victor Cozzetto victor.cozze...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Leila, Sandee,

I think there is some misunderstanding here that needs to be addressed, as I 
have seen it written more than once now.

DMSO as a carrier - agreed.

My concern is about comments referring to biofilm and other carrier actions:

CS is one of the only things that DOES penetrate biofilm, and it does it all on 
 its own. DMSO, MSM, MMS, etc., are not necessary for CS to do this. (You 
mentioned this in another post yesterday Sandee).

CS will stop all known pathogens that it comes into contact with. It does not 
need anything else to stop a virus. Stopping, disabling, etc., is the same end 
result as killing. No pathogen has ever been found that can survive silver.

I believe the confusion may come from the fact that some pathogens can hide in 
parts of the body that CS cannot reach, or cannot reach in sufficient quantity. 
This is where something like DMSO comes into play.

I do not personally use DMSO, but I have seen enough to believe that it 
effectively augments CS. I personally use the Beck Protocol (zappers, CS, 
ozonated water) when CS alone is not enough.

I saw MMS, MSM, and oxygen grouped in as carriers too, and I think this is also 
not completely correct:

 - MSM can provide some DMSO, and thus be a carrier; however, I think that 
carrier effect is insignificant. I believe the value of MSM is elsewhere, and 
thus it is another fine tool for promoting health.

 - As for MMS, per the other discussions, I have yet to see any unique benefit 
that it provides. To my knowledge it does not carry or augment CS in any way.

 - Oxygen protocols, such as ozonated water, are excellent in my opinion, but 
do not directly carry or augment CS in any way. They instead provide additional 
healing and killing action, so they are also good to use with CS. (But do not 
ozonate your CS!)

One of the common threads in all of the above is the challenge of getting 
enough CS in contact with the pathogen. Whether that be by pushing the pathogen 
to the CS, or by using DMSO, Neti pots, spray bottles, droppers, drinking, 
swishing, etc. to get the CS to its target. If we get enough CS to the target, 
it will stop all known pathogens, including Ebola.

If anything I have said above is incorrect, please correct me.

Victor

On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 8:57 PM, Leila Kostyk belis...@telusplanet.net wrote:
I use DMSO, seems to penetrate everything.

 On Oct 23, 2014, at 10:57 AM, Sandra George oha...@juno.com wrote:

 Thanks for this one Ron - what carrier would be good to penetrate the 
 encasement of the Biofilm carrying the EIS to do it’s work ? I think this 
 is the secret we are missing because the results of using EIS in Africa 
 belies so much of the chat 
 Sandee
 Attitude is everything !!!
 Sandra George
 Colloidal Silver Products
 Eye Drops  Topical Gel
 aliveagai...@yahoo.com



 On 23 Oct 2014, at 11:35, Ron ron@gmail.com wrote:

 Is that Biofilm?

 Biofilm: An aggregate of microbes with a distinct architecture. A biofilm is 
 like a tiny city in which microbial cells, each only a micrometer or two 
 long, form towers that can be hundreds of micrometers high. The streets 
 between the towers are really fluid-filled channels that bring in nutrients, 
 oxygen and other necessities for live biofilm communities.

 Biofilms form on the surface of catheter lines and contact lenses. They grow 
 on pacemakers, heart valve replacements, artificial joints and other surgical 
 implants. The CDC (Centers for Disease Control) estimate that over 65% of 
 nosocomial (hospital-acquired) infections are caused by biofilms.

 Bacteria growing in a biofilm are highly resistant to antibiotics, up to 
 1,000 times more resistant than the same bacteria not growing in a biofilm. 
 Standard antibiotic therapy is often useless and the only recourse may be to 
 remove 

Re: CSCS - Virus

2014-11-02 Thread Joe Huard
What about Brooks Bradley recommending a CS solution with 10% DMSO to be 
used with a nebulizer or Air Brush Kit from Harbor Freight to combat 
bronchitis, enphysema etc.?

Joe
On 2014-11-02 7:25 PM, Sandra George wrote:

Hi There Victor - I am confused and would like to get clarity - I understand 
that CS cannot penetrate the defence encasement of a virus - expressed in many 
ways - sack of protein, mucus, hides in nerve encasements like herpes, etc.,  
if this is not so then I am happy to be corrected, my understanding is that a 
virus is NOT a pathogen, my understanding is that a pathogen is a single cell 
organism with no protection of any kind and does not hide anywhere for 
protection, again I am happy to be corrected and would like clarity on this - 
which is why CS without any carrier can kill by itself - again if I am wrong 
please correct me.   So my final understanding is that this is why carriers or 
additional healing or combative protocols have to be introduced to assist the 
CS - again please correct me as I truly need clarity on this confusion which I 
feel has been going on now for too long.! Thanks to all who have 
endured this discussion.
Regards
Sandee
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On 2 Nov 2014, at 19:59, Victor Cozzetto victor.cozze...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Leila, Sandee,

I think there is some misunderstanding here that needs to be addressed, as I 
have seen it written more than once now.

DMSO as a carrier - agreed.

My concern is about comments referring to biofilm and other carrier actions:

CS is one of the only things that DOES penetrate biofilm, and it does it all on 
 its own. DMSO, MSM, MMS, etc., are not necessary for CS to do this. (You 
mentioned this in another post yesterday Sandee).

CS will stop all known pathogens that it comes into contact with. It does not 
need anything else to stop a virus. Stopping, disabling, etc., is the same end 
result as killing. No pathogen has ever been found that can survive silver.

I believe the confusion may come from the fact that some pathogens can hide in 
parts of the body that CS cannot reach, or cannot reach in sufficient quantity. 
This is where something like DMSO comes into play.

I do not personally use DMSO, but I have seen enough to believe that it 
effectively augments CS. I personally use the Beck Protocol (zappers, CS, 
ozonated water) when CS alone is not enough.

I saw MMS, MSM, and oxygen grouped in as carriers too, and I think this is also 
not completely correct:

  - MSM can provide some DMSO, and thus be a carrier; however, I think that 
carrier effect is insignificant. I believe the value of MSM is elsewhere, and 
thus it is another fine tool for promoting health.

  - As for MMS, per the other discussions, I have yet to see any unique benefit 
that it provides. To my knowledge it does not carry or augment CS in any way.

  - Oxygen protocols, such as ozonated water, are excellent in my opinion, but 
do not directly carry or augment CS in any way. They instead provide additional 
healing and killing action, so they are also good to use with CS. (But do not 
ozonate your CS!)

One of the common threads in all of the above is the challenge of getting 
enough CS in contact with the pathogen. Whether that be by pushing the pathogen 
to the CS, or by using DMSO, Neti pots, spray bottles, droppers, drinking, 
swishing, etc. to get the CS to its target. If we get enough CS to the target, 
it will stop all known pathogens, including Ebola.

If anything I have said above is incorrect, please correct me.

Victor

On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 8:57 PM, Leila Kostyk belis...@telusplanet.net wrote:
I use DMSO, seems to penetrate everything.


On Oct 23, 2014, at 10:57 AM, Sandra George oha...@juno.com wrote:

Thanks for this one Ron - what carrier would be good to penetrate the 
encasement of the Biofilm carrying the EIS to do it’s work ? I think this 
is the secret we are missing because the results of using EIS in Africa belies 
so much of the chat 
Sandee
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On 23 Oct 2014, at 11:35, Ron ron@gmail.com wrote:

Is that Biofilm?

Biofilm: An aggregate of microbes with a distinct architecture. A biofilm is like a tiny 
city in which microbial cells, each only a micrometer or two long, form towers that can 
be hundreds of micrometers high. The streets between the towers are really 
fluid-filled channels that bring in nutrients, oxygen and other necessities for live 
biofilm communities.

Biofilms form on the surface of catheter lines and contact lenses. They grow on 
pacemakers, heart valve replacements, artificial joints and other surgical 
implants. The CDC (Centers for Disease Control) estimate that over 65% of 
nosocomial (hospital-acquired) infections are caused by biofilms.

Bacteria growing in a biofilm are 

Re: CSCS - Virus

2014-11-02 Thread M.G. Devour
Sandee wrote:
 ... my understanding is that a virus is NOT a pathogen, my
  understanding is that a pathogen is a single cell organism with no
  protection of any kind and does not hide anywhere for protection...

Hi Sandee,

Pathogen is a general term for any disease causing organism...

From Wikipedia (an adequate source in this case...):

 A pathogen ... in the oldest and broadest sense is anything that can
 produce disease. Typically the term is used to mean an infectious
 agent (colloquially known as a germ) — a microorganism, in the widest
 sense such as a virus, bacterium, prion, fungus or protozoan, that
 causes disease in its host.
 
So, it's the kind of word that distinguishes what ails you from toxins,
injury, nutrient deficiency, or autoimmune stuff, for a few examples. If
it's pathogenic in origin, it means you got infected somehow.

So, you'll need to understand the biology of each of the general types
of pathogens and treat them as separate things in your mind.

If you look up the above listed types of pathogen you'll get a
description of what each one is and does...

Just off the top of my head...

Virus: A strand of DNA, possibly with an additional sheath of protein,
but no cell wall or protoplasm (gooey stuff inside a cell). It's pretty
much a simple piece of protein that happens to be able to sneak into a
host cell and trick it into using the cell's own reproductive apparatus
to reproduce the *virus*. It is not a cell, in and of itself. It's much
smaller than a cell and needs a living cell to serve as a host.

Bacterium: single celled organism with (usually) a cell wall, cell
membrane, nucleus containing DNA, and other internal structures along
with protoplasm (aforesaid gooey stuff). There are a handful of general
types, determined mostly by their shape under the microscope: cocci
(round) bacilli (bar or rod shaped), spirochete (spiral shaped). They're
generally on the same order of size as many types of cells or often
somewhat smaller. They can themselves be infected by viruses!

And so on for prions, fungi or protozoa... In this case, wikipedia can
be your friend. They'll at least get these basic definitions right.

  ... why CS without any carrier can kill by itself 

We know that it can and does, provided it can get to the germs causing
the problem. A carrier like DMSO might help silver get past membranes
into cells, or the spaces between cells, or into mucus... anyplace that
pathogens might set up housekeeping and silver might normally be slower
or prevented entirely from penetrating.

Other treatments you might try alongside silver may do different things
and their effectiveness might combine favorably... but it might not be
correct to call them carriers if that's not what they're actually
doing. There might be synergy where the effect is greater than the sum
of the parts, or their effects might just add together simply and leave
you no way of knowing how much is because of which thing you're doing...
Not altogether a bad thing so long as you're getting better, but not as
informative as careful testing would be.

Anyway, I hope there is a little clarity for you in all of that. You
just have to get ahold of the pieces of the subject and make them fit
together for you. Nothing takes the place of understanding, and that
usually depends on some brute force studying to cram the bits and pieces
into your brain. smile

Be well,

Mike D.




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2014-10-29 Thread Ron
Incidentally I use CS every day. One can read about it all over the 
internet and find few detractors.
It is a proven cure for many things in many ways and a cure for many 
others yet unproven.
For instance 6 oz. or so of CS injected into my bladder via catheter 
(left for a few hours) will stop a UTI in it's tracks and kill a fever 
in short order.
The thing is that it is non caustic and I don't have to worry about 
strength or duration and it works.

Please don't use CS and that other stuff  in the same sentence.
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Re: CSCS

2014-10-29 Thread Marshall
Everything has its niche.  From my own experiences this is what I have 
found to be true for me:


CS is better for viruses and bacterial infections

MMS is better for parasites and protozoa infections.

For fungal not sure, they both seem to work well, likely CS is better 
for internal, and MMS for topical.


MMS makes a great disinfectant.  CS is better for long term, like adding 
to milk or washing salad greens to extend the life.


Marshall

On 10/29/2014 10:58 AM, Ron wrote:
Incidentally I use CS every day. One can read about it all over the 
internet and find few detractors.
It is a proven cure for many things in many ways and a cure for many 
others yet unproven.
For instance 6 oz. or so of CS injected into my bladder via catheter 
(left for a few hours) will stop a UTI in it's tracks and kill a fever 
in short order.
The thing is that it is non caustic and I don't have to worry about 
strength or duration and it works.

Please don't use CS and that other stuff  in the same sentence.
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Re: CSCS - Virus

2014-10-24 Thread Dee
The trouble with enzymes is they are very fragile and easily destroyed, so it 
is difficult to know whether you are actually getting the benefit. Ditto for 
buying supplements - are you buying the right one, because cost is not always 
an indication that the product is good...dee

Sent from my iPad

 On 23 Oct 2014, at 18:50, phoenix23002 tds.net phoenix23...@tds.net wrote:
 
 Enzymes help to dissolve biofilms.  We get enzymes in our diet from fruits 
 and veggies.
 Fresh pineapple is one great source.  If you google enzymatic therapy or 
 enzyme
 and biofilm, you will find a lot of good information.  You can also purchase 
 enzymes
 in pill/cap form.  Lola H.
  
 On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 1:19 PM, 123 456 whiteol...@gmail.com wrote:
 Look into DMSO.
 It is a little bit not natural but it is the most immediately effective 
 carrier.
 Farm and vet supplie outlets can get it.
 It is used in the horse industry and at race tracks.
 Tara
 
 On 10/23/14, 123 456 whiteol...@gmail.com wrote:
  Oil of Oregano is the strongest remedy for virus' infection that I
  have ever experienced.
  Ultra violet laser light is also being talked about as an effectively
  protection from dbola too.
  Tara
 
  On 10/23/14, Ron ron@gmail.com wrote:
  Is that Biofilm?
 
  *Biofilm:*An aggregate of microbes with a distinct architecture. A
  biofilm is like a tiny city in which microbial cells, each only a
  micrometer or two long, form towers that can be hundreds of micrometers
  high. The streets between the towers are really fluid-filled channels
  that bring in nutrients, oxygen and other necessities for live biofilm
  communities.
 
  Biofilms form on the surface of catheter lines and contact lenses. They
  grow on pacemakers, heart valve replacements, artificial joints and
  other surgical implants. The CDC (Centers for Disease Control) estimate
  that over 65% of nosocomial (hospital-acquired) infections are caused by
  biofilms.
 
  Bacteria growing in a biofilm are highly resistant to antibiotics, up to
  1,000 times more resistant than the same bacteria not growing in a
  biofilm. Standard antibiotic therapy is often useless and the only
  recourse may be to remove the contaminated implant.
 
  Fungal biofilms also frequently contaminate medical devices. They cause
  chronic vaginal infections and lead to life-threatening systemic
  infections in people with hobbled immune systems.
 
  Biofilms are involved in numerous diseases. For instance,cystic fibrosis
  http://www.medicinenet.com/cystic_fibrosis/article.htmpatients have
  Pseudomonas infections that often result in antibiotic resistant
  biofilms.
  Ron
 
  On 10/23/2014 8:00 AM, Sandra George wrote:
  Because of my own experience with this Chickenguyna virus I have been
  sent
  back into my past   for answers - As I understand the research into
  virus
  - a virus encases itself as protection - this is why EIS cannot get to
  kill them - oxygen therapy - either ozone or hydrogen peroxide - does
  what
  ?   Are these modalities carriers which can penetrate the virus shields
  taking the EIS WITH THEM TO KILL?   If this is so then using oxygen
  therapy along with EIS would be the death to any virus - please confirm
  or
  explain how EIS is successful in virus treatment which it has been
  proven
  in the case of HIV, Ebola, and more, which is not discussed openly or
  admitted to by those who would not benefit financially
  It is time for the truth or as near to as is possible
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2014-10-24 Thread Dee
Again, which one and how do you know it's active? dee

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 On 23 Oct 2014, at 22:05, Sandra George oha...@juno.com wrote:
 
 A good enzime to take on a regular basis is Serrapeptase as has been 
 suggested by many on this list 
 Sandee
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 On 23 Oct 2014, at 16:19, Alan Faulkner ala...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Someone on another group said aspirin will dissolve them.
 
 Alan
 
 
 On 2014-10-23, at 13:16 PM, Ron wrote:
 
 Not long ago I got the idea that I had a biofilm problem and got an herbal 
 that was supposed to knock 'em off. Then I found out that their are also good 
 biofilms. Don't know the details.
 Anyhow I decided that it was maybe not a good idea to put something in the 
 body to just nuke them all.
 Ron
 
 On 10/23/2014 10:50 AM, phoenix23002 tds.net wrote:
 Enzymes help to dissolve biofilms.  We get enzymes in our diet from fruits 
 and veggies.
 Fresh pineapple is one great source.  If you google enzymatic therapy or 
 enzyme
 and biofilm, you will find a lot of good information.  You can also purchase 
 enzymes
 in pill/cap form.  Lola H.
 
 On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 1:19 PM, 123 456 whiteol...@gmail.com wrote:
 Look into DMSO.
 It is a little bit not natural but it is the most immediately effective 
 carrier.
 Farm and vet supplie outlets can get it.
 It is used in the horse industry and at race tracks.
 Tara
 
 On 10/23/14, 123 456 whiteol...@gmail.com wrote:
 Oil of Oregano is the strongest remedy for virus' infection that I
 have ever experienced.
 Ultra violet laser light is also being talked about as an effectively
 protection from dbola too.
 Tara
 
 On 10/23/14, Ron ron@gmail.com wrote:
 Is that Biofilm?
 
 *Biofilm:*An aggregate of microbes with a distinct architecture. A
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 micrometer or two long, form towers that can be hundreds of micrometers
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2014-10-23 Thread Sandra George
Because of my own experience with this Chickenguyna virus I have been sent back 
into my past   for answers - As I understand the research into virus - a virus 
encases itself as protection - this is why EIS cannot get to kill them - oxygen 
therapy - either ozone or hydrogen peroxide - does what ?   Are these 
modalities carriers which can penetrate the virus shields taking the EIS WITH 
THEM TO KILL?   If this is so then using oxygen therapy along with EIS would be 
the death to any virus - please confirm or explain how EIS is successful in 
virus treatment which it has been proven in the case of HIV, Ebola, and more, 
which is not discussed openly or admitted to by those who would not benefit 
financially
It is time for the truth or as near to as is possible
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