Re: CSNanobacteria
Duncan Crow duncanc...@shaw.ca wrote: I'm glad we have so much knowledge about nanobacteria Mike. It's a natural talent, Duncan. Inherited it from my mother. Here is a list of my issued patents: http://www3.sympatico.ca/add.automation/patents.htm Also, some of my recent inventions are listed at the bottom of this page. I estimate I have saved industry well over a billion dollars. Maybe there are more than one kind? Not a chance. Quote: Nanobac co-founder and Director of Science, Neva Ciftcioglu, Ph.D. will remain at NASA JSC as Senior Scientist and principal researcher. Under the agreement, NASA will provide workspace at JSC for Nanobac's personnel located at JSC. The agreement further provides Nanobac the opportunity to work together with a multidisciplinary team of NASA researchers while having access to basic laboratory services for nanobacteria science, including electron microscopy, molecular biology and geology-mineralogy research facilities. Projects ranging from searching for nanobacteria biosignatures in earth fossils and in Mars meteorites to diagnosing and treating nanobacteria infection are anticipated. Nanobac will provide JSC with equipment and specialty supplies for nanobacteria research and apply its pioneering diagnostic and treatment experience in the field. http://www.comspacewatch.com/news/viewpr.html?pid=15024 As long as Mme. Ciftcioglu has the run of NASA, there is no need to invoke new strains. They will use that option only when needed, for example when it looks like the money tree is running dry. Then you will see press releases plastered all over their home page. I mentioned what Becker thought of the origins of life prior to 1985. His current of injury and current of repair investigations yielded lots of information that he presents in his book. I thought the the book's title was kind of appropriate. His work on injecting silver ions and reporting the healing is also documented in his patent 5,814,094. If you have never read a patent in your life, here is one you must take a look at: http://www.rexresearch.com/becker/becker1.htm I couldn't guess about what would happen to an infected infant, or how exposed the infant would be to the infection. I was using the very loose calculation presented to show that increasing the exposure would reduce the time to symptoms if nanobacteria produce symptoms at all. I understand they are everywhere, even in supposedly sterile environments, but only some hosts show symptoms. Quote: Nanobacterium sanguineum was proposed in 1998 as an explanation of certain kinds of pathologic calcification (apatite in kidney stones) by Finnish researcher Olavi Kajander and Turkish researcher Neva Ciftcioglu, working at the University of Kuopio in Finland. According to the researchers the particles self-replicated in microbiological culture, and the researchers further reported having identified a DNA sequence. Later studies by another group reached different results, suggesting peculiar yet inanimate etiology of the disease. A paper published in 2000 by a team led by John Cisar of the US National Institutes of Health proposed that the self-replication was, in fact, an unusual form of crystaline growth, and that contamination may have been the source of the DNA. [...] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanobacteria The associated symptoms are kidney stones, hardening of the arteries, and other old age diseases. Very unlikely to find these in an infant. Aside from Mme. Ciftcioglu's claims, there is no evidence that nanobacteria has infect anyone. I've been using Pegasus mail since about 1999, maybe longer. I don't know how to change a reply-to line. I find that amazing. You should know Pegasus inside and out by now. Hopefully, you saw Mike D.'s post on how to stop the problem. Duncan Regards, Mike Monett Antiviral Antibacterial Silver Solution: http://silversol.freewebpage.org/index.htm SPICE Analysis of Crystal Oscillators: http://silversol.freewebpage.org/spice/xtal/clapp.htm Noise-Rejecting Wideband Sampler: http://www3.sympatico.ca/add.automation/sampler/intro.htm -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The
CSNanobacteria, Mycoplasma, Basis of Life, Etc.
List, I just stumbled on this interesting site. I recommend it. http://www.flatrock.org.nz/topics/science/ is_this_the_essence_of_life.htm JBB -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNanobacteria
I'm glad we have so much knowledge about nanobacteria Mike. Maybe there are more than one kind? I mentioned what Becker thought of the origins of life prior to 1985. His current of injury and current of repair investigations yielded lots of information that he presents in his book. I thought the the book's title was kind of appropriate. I couldn't guess about what would happen to an infected infant, or how exposed the infant would be to the infection. I was using the very loose calculation presented to show that increasing the exposure would reduce the time to symptoms if nanobacteria produce symptoms at all. I understand they are everywhere, even in supposedly sterile environments, but only some hosts show symptoms. I've been using Pegasus mail since about 1999, maybe longer. I don't know how to change a reply-to line. Duncan 1. Nanobacteria are clad in apatite, not protein. 2. Body Electric is a misnomer. Electrons do not flow in electrolytes. The current flow in electrolytes, including our bodies, is via anions and cations. As shown in the Theory section on my web site, the movement of charge carriers is dominated by diffusion and convection. In fact, the direction of charge flow may be at right angles, or even opposite to, the direction of an applied electric field. 3. There is no evidence that nanobacteria self-repair. 4. Dunan, earlier, you stated: ~~ ~~ Mike, I consider that if a few bacterial contaminants might replicate enough to cause symptoms in 35-40 years, decreasing the time to symptoms can be accomplished also by increasing these contaminants through a program of repeated exposure. Double the contaminants, half the time to symptoms, and 40 times the contaminants in a short program could produce symptoms in as little as a bit more than a year. [...] Duncan ~~ ~~ Would the symptoms still appear in a year if an infant were infected at birth by a severely infected mother? Please stop trying to redirect my replies so they disappear from the silverlist by changing the Reply-To tag to point to yourself. Regards, Mike Monett -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSNanobacteria
Reading Mike Monets opinions regarding nanobacteria, I did my own research. What I found caused me to conclude differently than Mike. The following sites have specific information on the topic: www.joimr.org/phorum/read.php?f=2i=42t=42 www.crohns.org/articles/2000_10_185-95_jmm.htm www.personalconsult.com/articles/lymecellwalldeficiency.html The next site is rather technical, but very enlightening. The Th1 (T-helper) inflammatory response occurs in reaction to the invasion of cells by extremely tiny bacteria. These parasitic bacteria are also called pleomorphic (many shapes) or L-form (Lister) or Cell Wall Deficient (CWD) or cell wall divergent or nanobacteria. It goes on further to make the point that, far from being effective, some antibiotics actually cause CWD bacteria. www.arrowheadhealthworks.com/Mattmnbk.htm The next site states, Rheumatoid Arthritis and Multiple Sclerosis--The Cause May Be in the Blood. Since many folks are having good success fighting MS with generous amounts of CS, the implications are positive. The term stealth pathogens refers to bacteria that have cell walls that are deficient in shape, structure, rigidity, and/or layering. This feature enables such bacteria (CWD, or cell wall deficient) to easily move DNA between cells and for groups of CWD bacteria to fuse together and facilitate genetic experiments, explains microbiologist Lida Holmes Mattman, Ph.D., a leading authority in this field. Such genetic experiments can include many of today's more baffling autoimmune diseases such as MS and rheumatoid arthritis, along with other forms of arthritis, septicemia, meningitis, urinary tract infections, heart valve infection, eye inflammations, and a host of other maladies, says Dr. Mattman. These organisms are clandestine, almost unrecognizable, and omnipresent, says Dr. Mattman. They are capable of considerable shape-changing and growth resulting in disease-hence the apt term, stealth pathogens. In fact, the cell shapes produced by a diminished, discontinuous, or absent cell wall are almost endlessly variegated and work their way into all aspects of microbe participation in life. They're known by various technical names, according to the degree to which they've lost their cell wall: spheroplast, protoplast, L-phase, L-forms, transitionals, and mycoplasma. According to some physicians, mycoplasma, which are unable to make any cell wall whatsoever and are highly divergent in type, may be involved in the initiation of cancer. The definition/description of 'mycoplasma' would apply as well to 'nanobacteria'. www.geocities.com/SoHo/Gallery/6412/stealth.htm __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNanobacteria
Terry Chamberlin tcj...@yahoo.ca wrote: [...] The definition/description of 'mycoplasma' would apply as well to 'nanobacteria'. Nanobacterium sanguineum was proposed in 1998 as an explanation of certain kinds of pathologic calcification (apatite in kidney stones) by Finnish researcher Olavi Kajander and Turkish researcher Neva Ciftcioglu, working at the University of Kuopio in Finland. According to the researchers the particles self-replicated in microbiological culture, and the researchers further reported having identified a DNA sequence. Later studies by another group reached different results, suggesting peculiar yet inanimate etiology of the disease. A paper published in 2000 by a team led by John Cisar of the US National Institutes of Health proposed that the self-replication was, in fact, an unusual form of crystaline growth, and that contamination may have been the source of the DNA. However, the Cisar group did not as part of their study examine nanobacteria samples from the Kajander group, therefore critics observed that without such a control sample the assertion that these were self-replicating crystals or contamination had not been substantiated. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanobacteria Nanobacteria have no relation to the pathogens you discussed. Regards, Mike Monett Antiviral Antibacterial Silver Solution: http://silversol.freewebpage.org/index.htm SPICE Analysis of Crystal Oscillators: http://silversol.freewebpage.org/spice/xtal/clapp.htm Noise-Rejecting Wideband Sampler: http://www3.sympatico.ca/add.automation/sampler/intro.htm -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNanobacteria
Interesting that Dr. Robert O. Becker proposed a crystalline origin of life which somewhat later was clad in protein, in his book Body Electric, which was published I think in 1985. He said it was the most probable because it provides the necessary structure, the mechanism to self repair, and a variable current carrying ability are built in properties, or words to that effect. Duncan Later studies by another group reached different results, suggesting peculiar yet inanimate etiology of the disease. A paper published in 2000 by a team led by John Cisar of the US National Institutes of Health proposed that the self-replication was, in fact, an unusual form of crystaline growth, and that contamination may have been the source of the DNA. However, the Cisar group did not as part of their study examine nanobacteria samples from the Kajander group, therefore critics observed that without such a control sample the assertion that these were self-replicating crystals or contamination had not been substantiated. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanobacteria Nanobacteria have no relation to the pathogens you discussed. Regards, Mike Monett Antiviral Antibacterial Silver Solution: http://silversol.freewebpage.org/index.htm SPICE Analysis of Crystal Oscillators: http://silversol.freewebpage.org/spice/xtal/clapp.htm Noise-Rejecting Wideband Sampler: http://www3.sympatico.ca/add.automation/sampler/intro.htm -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNanobacteria
Duncan Crow duncanc...@shaw.ca wrote: Interesting that Dr. Robert O. Becker proposed a crystalline origin of life which somewhat later was clad in protein, in his book Body Electric, which was published I think in 1985. He said it was the most probable because it provides the necessary structure, the mechanism to self repair, and a variable current carrying ability are built in properties, or words to that effect. Duncan 1. Nanobacteria are clad in apatite, not protein. 2. Body Electric is a misnomer. Electrons do not flow in electrolytes. The current flow in electrolytes, including our bodies, is via anions and cations. As shown in the Theory section on my web site, the movement of charge carriers is dominated by diffusion and convection. In fact, the direction of charge flow may be at right angles, or even opposite to, the direction of an applied electric field. 3. There is no evidence that nanobacteria self-repair. 4. Dunan, earlier, you stated: Mike, I consider that if a few bacterial contaminants might replicate enough to cause symptoms in 35-40 years, decreasing the time to symptoms can be accomplished also by increasing these contaminants through a program of repeated exposure. Double the contaminants, half the time to symptoms, and 40 times the contaminants in a short program could produce symptoms in as little as a bit more than a year. [...] Duncan Would the symptoms still appear in a year if an infant were infected at birth by a severely infected mother? Please stop trying to redirect my replies so they disappear from the silverlist by changing the Reply-To tag to point to yourself. Regards, Mike Monett Antiviral Antibacterial Silver Solution: http://silversol.freewebpage.org/index.htm SPICE Analysis of Crystal Oscillators: http://silversol.freewebpage.org/spice/xtal/clapp.htm Noise-Rejecting Wideband Sampler: http://www3.sympatico.ca/add.automation/sampler/intro.htm -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSnanobacteria-to daddybob
My understanding of nanobacteria is that it is encapsulated by a calcified material which would need to be broken before getting the bacteria. A naturpath had me on 20 enzymes a day and frequent doses of Sovereign CS for lyme and co-infections that invaded my scalp and neck now chronic for 4 years and causing a domino of symptoms. I had no success with that but am looking into becks protocol but have yet to find a chronic case cured this way.
Re: CSNanobacteria, -now isn't it good to get sick?
- Original Message - From: Wendy wen...@tuxnightclub.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 8:34 PM Subject: RE: CSNanobacteria, -now isn't it good to get sick? Just out of curiosity, isn't it good for our children and us to get sick and manage everyday stuff like colds and flus on our own sometimes? Would always using CS, Echinacea/herbs, ozone therapy, urine therapy etc. act as a crutch so that the body always needs help to fight an infection thereby not making it as resistant/strong when exposed? I guess what I am saying is if I get a cold and take a bunch of CS and it nips a bug in the butt, doesn't that mean my body missed out on tackling that all by itself and thereby missing out on a 'dump' of toxins via bodily excretions or the body's own fever? My friends children are true country kids and play outside amongst their livestock etc., I shuddered when they picked up my dogs bones and were throwing them for the dogs when they were here- however, that being said they are rarely sick.. another friend has a small child in a pristine environment, doesn't want her in sand/dirt and carries wipes all the time, antibacterial soap etc they have been sick lots. == Hi Wendy This is a good question. The only thing I'd add to what people have already written is that if these were normal microbes I'd say, yes, let the body do its own healing; for stimulating the immune function can be very beneficial. But we live in such a toxic world -- chemtrails, petrochemicals, mercury and other heavy metals in the air and water, and even genetically engineered microbes -- that we are no longer dealing with normal circumstances. Plus, hypothyroidism is rampant and with that, it's more difficult for the body to create a fever. So if I'm getting sick, I take colloidal silver. AND jump into the sauna, so my system can sweat out the toxins. Best, Nenah Nenah Sylver, PhD http://www.nenahsylver.com * The Handbook of Rife Frequency Healing * The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy * products and services for wellness -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNanobacteria, -now isn't it good to get sick?
Wendy a little bit of dirt never hurt anyone, in fact it has it's purpose to strengthen our immune system, however like with everything, when anything becomes out of balance then we have to work to get whatever back into balance - read what Christine wrote and this will give you a very good idea of how it all works - added to which, the mind is the master controller, if you would like to go further into this thought system, then I would suggest your getting Louis Hay's little book called Heal your Body - she is/was a trained medical nurse, who was given the death sentence by doctors when she was diagnosed with cancer many years ago, refused to accept their suggestions and started her own quest of healing, has been free of cancer for many years and continues doing work based on mind control/manifestation connection between the mind and disease of the body - basically she believes that all disease of the body starts with disease in the mind - clear the mind and the body follows suit ! There are many ways of skinning a cat - I leave the path to you !!! ??? All modalities work if one chooses to do the work ! We all need a little help along with reminders to keep us working ! Regards Sandee The one who accomplished it is the one who failed to realize that he could not do it. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNanobacteria, Calcification Heart Disease
Sandee, thanks for the link. Very interesting article, especially to those of us treating Fibromyalgia, fibrositis as was, where the tissues are said to be carrying loads of calcium phosphate. CSers have been discussing Slackstone recently, and I really do want to get on and work out how to get a money order to Spain and then how to make sure Australian Customs let it through. Guaifenesin-using FMSers believe the guai enables the body to excrete the phosphate in certain circumstances (if salicylates, which fit better, don't get to the kidney receptors first). Is increased dosage of CS an answer to targetting the nanobacteria? I know some take pints and quarts of it. I've never gone up to those quantities. What is current CS thinking on fighting nanobacteria? Rowena Click here: NEXUS: Nanobacteria, Calcification Heart Disease
Re: CSNanobacteria, Calcification Heart Disease
About a year ago there was an announcement that taking antibiotics over a long period killed these bacteria and resulted in a lower rate of heart disease. At that time it was surmised that taking EIS would accomplish the same thing without the downside of antibiotics. I believe that is the case. Marshall Ross Craig wrote: Interesting would be understatementIf this is all true, and nanobacteria cause all calcification and all the diseases that go with it, can EIS kill it? Could one prevent petrifying calcification with a few ounces of EIS daily? - Original Message - From: Sandee George To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 8:35 PM Subject: CSNanobacteria, Calcification Heart Disease Thought this might interest the groupREgards to allSandee The one who accomplished it is the one who failed to realize that he could not do it. Click here: NEXUS: Nanobacteria, Calcification Heart Disease - No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.2/65 - Release Date: 8/7/2005
Re: CSNanobacteria, Calcification Heart Disease
Hi There Rowena - this is, in my opinion, a rehash of what I had over ten years ago called chelation - and excellent procedure although, what they are doing with it today may have changed since my time, however I would recommend the procedure to any and everyone who wants to have a clean unblocked system. Then to change their diet for minimum rebuilding of all the gunk !!! This is just my opinion. As far as C.S. is concerned, I take per diem whatever amount I feel is what I need, this ranges from one swig of the bottle to many during the day depending upon what my body is up to - I know that this would be considered a very unethical way of dosage for most people however I have been listening to my body for many years and now know more often than not exactly what is needed - I will give you an example - if I wake up in the morning with a scratchy throat then I swig three times for the day by the end of the day all is back to normal. This is the best I can do for you as each one of us is different and this is why each one of us needs to learn to listen to what our bodies want, doctors etc., can only prescribe - we have to be the final judge of what and how it works for us !I call this taking responsibility for my own health - hope this sharing helps with your final decision. Let me put it this way I am never without my C.S. even when travelling ! Especially when I am travelling I use it in my eyes, nose plus the swig ! In my book dirt is the breeding ground of all bugs regardless of what type they may be Man made antibiotics only hit certain ones, C.S. has a far wider range because of the way in which it works !!Most important of which is that it does no harm while it works it's magic ! Regards Sandee The one who accomplished it is the one who failed to realize that he could not do it. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNanobacteria, Calcification Heart Disease
Interesting would be understatementIf this is all true, and nanobacteria cause all calcification and all the diseases that go with it, can EIS kill it? Could one prevent petrifying calcification with a few ounces of EIS daily? - Original Message - From: Sandee George To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 8:35 PM Subject: CSNanobacteria, Calcification Heart Disease Thought this might interest the group REgards to all Sandee The one who accomplished it is the one who failed to realize that he could not do it. Click here: NEXUS: Nanobacteria, Calcification Heart Disease -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.2/65 - Release Date: 8/7/2005
RE: CSNanobacteria, Calcification Heart Disease
Dear Sandee, Thank you for your expressions which are so readable and understandable for us seekers! Hope you're doing fine back home in Grenada! Best wishes to you and yours! ___ Richard Harris, 58 Year FL Pharmacist 448 West Juniata Street Clermont, FL 34711 www.rharrisinc.com http://www.seasilver.com/reh http://healthandhealing.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: Sandee George [mailto:oha...@juno.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 10:14 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSNanobacteria, Calcification Heart Disease Hi There Rowena - this is, in my opinion, a rehash of what I had over ten years ago called chelation - and excellent procedure although, what they are doing with it today may have changed since my time, however I would recommend the procedure to any and everyone who wants to have a clean unblocked system. Then to change their diet for minimum rebuilding of all the gunk !!! This is just my opinion. As far as C.S. is concerned, I take per diem whatever amount I feel is what I need, this ranges from one swig of the bottle to many during the day depending upon what my body is up to - I know that this would be considered a very unethical way of dosage for most people however I have been listening to my body for many years and now know more often than not exactly what is needed - I will give you an example - if I wake up in the morning with a scratchy throat then I swig three times for the day by the end of the day all is back to normal. This is the best I can do for you as each one of us is different and this is why each one of us needs to learn to listen to what our bodies want, doctors etc., can only prescribe - we have to be the final judge of what and how it works for us !I call this taking responsibility for my own health - hope this sharing helps with your final decision. Let me put it this way I am never without my C.S. even when travelling ! Especially when I am travelling I use it in my eyes, nose plus the swig ! In my book dirt is the breeding ground of all bugs regardless of what type they may be Man made antibiotics only hit certain ones, C.S. has a far wider range because of the way in which it works !!Most important of which is that it does no harm while it works it's magic ! Regards Sandee The one who accomplished it is the one who failed to realize that he could not do it. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNanobacteria, Calcification Heart Disease
Rowena, also would like to know how to order Slackstone. When you find out please advise. Mary -- Original message from Rowena new...@aapt.net.au: -- Sandee, thanks for the link. Very interesting article, especially to those of us treating Fibromyalgia, fibrositis as was, where the tissues are said to be carrying loads of calcium phosphate. CSers have been discussing Slackstone recently, and I really do want to get on and work out how to get a money order to Spain and then how to make sure Australian Customs let it through. Guaifenesin-using FMSers believe the guai enables the body to excrete the phosphate in certain circumstances (if salicylates, which fit better, don't get to the kidney receptors first). Is increased dosage of CS an answer to targetting the nanobacteria? I know some take pints and quarts of it. I've never gone up to those quantities. What is current CS thinking on fighting nanobacteria? Rowena Click here: NEXUS: Nanobacteria, Calcification Heart Disease
RE: CSNanobacteria, -now isn't it good to get sick?
Just out of curiosity, isn't it good for our children and us to get sick and manage everyday stuff like colds and flus on our own sometimes? Would always using CS, Echinacea/herbs, ozone therapy, urine therapy etc. act as a crutch so that the body always needs help to fight an infection thereby not making it as resistant/strong when exposed? I guess what I am saying is if I get a cold and take a bunch of CS and it nips a bug in the butt, doesn't that mean my body missed out on tackling that all by itself and thereby missing out on a 'dump' of toxins via bodily excretions or the body's own fever? My friends children are true country kids and play outside amongst their livestock etc., I shuddered when they picked up my dogs bones and were throwing them for the dogs when they were here- however, that being said they are rarely sick.. another friend has a small child in a pristine environment, doesn't want her in sand/dirt and carries wipes all the time, antibacterial soap etc they have been sick lots. Just musing Wendy snip Let me put it this way I am never without my C.S. even when travelling ! Especially when I am travelling I use it in my eyes, nose plus the swig ! In my book dirt is the breeding ground of all bugs regardless of what type they may be Man made antibiotics only hit certain ones, C.S. has a far wider range because of the way in which it works !!Most important of which is that it does no harm while it works it's magic ! Regards Sandee The one who accomplished it is the one t maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSNanobacteria, -now isn't it good to get sick?
Hi Wendy, At 08:34 PM 8/9/2005, you wrote: My friends children are true country kids and play outside amongst their livestock etc., I shuddered when they picked up my dogs bones and were throwing them for the dogs when they were here- however, that being said they are rarely sick.. another friend has a small child in a pristine environment, doesn't want her in sand/dirt and carries wipes all the time, antibacterial soap etc they have been sick lots. I too played among the livestock on the farm as a child and made mud pies and ate them. I did not tend to be ill until we sold the farm, moved to Florida and my mother kept a house that was really clean. LOL Teri -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.0/63 - Release Date: 8/3/2005 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNanobacteria, -now isn't it good to get sick?
Wendy said: Just out of curiosity, isn't it good for our children and us to get sick and manage everyday stuff like colds and flus on our own sometimes? Would always using CS, Echinacea/herbs, ozone therapy, urine therapy etc. act as a crutch so that the body always needs help to fight an infection thereby not making it as resistant/strong when exposed? I guess what I am saying is if I get a cold and take a bunch of CS and it nips a bug in the butt, doesn't that mean my body missed out on tackling that all by itself and thereby missing out on a 'dump' of toxins via bodily excretions or the body's own fever? Rowena muses in her turn: In this particular case, having learned that nanobacteria would appear to be turning us to stone via the calcification process, one might not be worrying too much about colds and flu. These tiny nasties are so clever or small or well disguised they have evaded detection until now. (Did you read the article? Click here: NEXUS: Nanobacteria, Calcification Heart Disease ) Will CS or coconut oil or iodine or calendula or whatever actually rid the body of them? I hope so, but I don't know so. Will my body destroy the nanobacteria without intervention if it is not too overloaded fighting tetanus and coccidiosis and borellia and whatever? Maybe, I hope so. The article seems to be saying a mix of elderly antibiotics will get rid of them, but I prefer not to use antibiotics, even if they are old, low-profit ones. Maybe Rife or other electromedicine can zap them. If these things are responsible for the pains I am experiencing now, apparently caused by the calcification that has been happening since I was a sweet young thing, Colds and Flu can go hang. I much prefer to do without them, anyway. Perhaps the people who don't get the flu etc. do get it, but overcome it, and the ones who get it are the ones whose bodies are overwhelmed because of factors X, Y and Z and can't deal with it without the symptoms. In the instance of the farm dweller who moved to the city - who is to say what the major factors in lowered health were? Different diet? Different air? Sick building, increased chemical exposure, exhaust fumes, crowded public places, different and increased germ exposure, stress, culture shock, etc. etc.? I think the true horror of nipping bugs in the bud before they do their thing is when symptoms are masked by pharmaceuticals and the germ stored in the body for another time, rather than, as you say, the fever cooking them to death or whatever. I am certainly against getting rid of the illnesses quickly and unnaturally by interference with the body's processes. Homeopathic medicine, for instance, as I understand it, supports the body processes and allows the body to get rid of invaders its own way, with the natural and complete process. If I can avoid that illness, though, or have it happen in my body without my being aware of it because there is not a great battle with millions of casualties, I'm enough of a wimp at my age to prefer it that way. And if there's a way to zap the nanos and dissolve the calcium phosphates, yes please, let me get my shoes on! Dreaming of a pain-free life Rowena
Re: CSNanobacteria, Calcification Heart Disease
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CSNanobacteria, Calcification Heart Disease
Thought this might interest the group REgards to all Sandee The one who accomplished it is the one who failed to realize that he could not do it. Click here: NEXUS: Nanobacteria, Calcification Heart Disease
CSNanobacteria: A new form of life
GlacierNanobacteria revelations provoke new controversy. Some claim they are a new life form responsible for a wide-range of diseases, including the calcification of the arteries that afflicts us all as we age. Others say they are simply too small (less than 100 nanometres across) to be living creatures. New Scientist Print Edition at http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns5009 Contributed by www.biophysica.com Glacier Bkgrd.jpg
CSNanobacteria and Disease States
http://www.msstate.edu/dept/geosciences/4site/nannobacteria.htm ...Nannobacteria may be mediating many processes currently assumed to be controlled by inorganic chemical reactions, such as low-temperature precipitation of dolomite, oxidation of iron, and the formation of clay minerals on the Earth's surface (Folk, 1992; 1993); processes which have an economic effect on many industries including petroleum exploitation and environmental mediation. Nannobacteria may also be controlling processes within organisms such as formation of shells, bones, teeth, calculus, and arterial plaque. They have been reported from bovine, rabbit and human blood and they may be associated with human disease. It has been suggested that nannobacteria might play a role in a class of diseases associated with mineralized amyloid deposits in human tissue (including inflammatory bowel disease, kuru, Kreutzfeld-Jacob’s, Alzheimer’s, and Crohn’s disease)... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/3729487.stm Interesting to apply the results that most people are getting as far as preventing many disease states by taking preventative daily doses of CS to the idea of nanobacteria and their various effects on the human body. Garnet -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSNanobacteria and Disease States
What is the difference between nannobacteria and mycoplasmas? TIA JOH -Original Message- From: Garnet [mailto:garnetri...@earthlink.net] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 11:21 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSNanobacteria and Disease States http://www.msstate.edu/dept/geosciences/4site/nannobacteria.htm ...Nannobacteria may be mediating many processes currently assumed to be controlled by inorganic chemical reactions, such as low-temperature precipitation of dolomite, oxidation of iron, and the formation of clay minerals on the Earth's surface (Folk, 1992; 1993); processes which have an economic effect on many industries including petroleum exploitation and environmental mediation. Nannobacteria may also be controlling processes within organisms such as formation of shells, bones, teeth, calculus, and arterial plaque. They have been reported from bovine, rabbit and human blood and they may be associated with human disease. It has been suggested that nannobacteria might play a role in a class of diseases associated with mineralized amyloid deposits in human tissue (including inflammatory bowel disease, kuru, Kreutzfeld-Jacob's, Alzheimer's, and Crohn's disease)... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/3729487.stm Interesting to apply the results that most people are getting as far as preventing many disease states by taking preventative daily doses of CS to the idea of nanobacteria and their various effects on the human body. Garnet -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
