RE: CSOT - MMS
Nice tip I will remember that. I have a bottle sitting around from when I experimented with it. Scott Adams www.lyme-resource.com http://www.lyme-resource.com/ You can lead a person to a fact, but you can't make them think! - Scott Adams _ From: gaiac...@gmail.com [mailto:gaiac...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 3:39 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSOT - MMS I would stay away from it too. I do not know what all your health issues are, but if 1 drop does that, then it's pretty poisonous for you. My Dad had leukemia and was also diabetic and he could take one drop, though 2 made him FEEL nauseous. He didn't throw up or have diarrhea, but he didn't like the feeling of being nauseous, naturally. He was a big guy too--240 plus pounds, 6 foot 2 inches. I know Humble says that it's the die off, but if it affects you that bad either you are extremely ill, or it's simply not for you. I would think it wasn't for you and would not push it. There are other ways of using a more dilute MMS, at only 5%, that can be very helpful around the house as a cleaner and such, though, so that your bottle isn't wasted. And--it makes a great descaler. We have very hard water here and get terrible lime build up on everything. I mix up a big squirt of MMS and a big squirt of white vinegar, let it sit about 10 minutes, and put that into my dishwasher. I run a cycle and boy, does that dishwasher come out sparkling clean! Lol my friend uses her MMS to descale her coffee pots. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- I was on one drop a day with the projectile vomiting, along with wonderful diarrhea. It was too much for me and I won't take it again. I tried 3 times and each time was so ill. It just isn't for me. happy.gif
RE: CSOT - MMS
It was a very good tip Jill! Yes activated charcoal is sold in the stores and I have used it for years. Its as important as CS in my medicine chest! Just note burnt toast won't give the same effects. Buy a bottle of capsules to have on hand. You never know when you might need it and then won't be the time to head to the store! Scott Adams www.lyme-resource.com http://www.lyme-resource.com/ You can lead a person to a fact, but you can't make them think! - Scott Adams _ From: grace1...@aol.com [mailto:grace1...@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 3:38 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSOT - MMS I don't know if the correct term is activated charcoal, or activated carbon. I know that very burned toast (black) and activated charcoal/carbon capsules will serve the same purpose. I seem to remember you can get the charcoal/carbon capsules at a health food store. Sorry, I'm not a scientist, or a chemist. I just wanted to share an amazingly effective and simple way to get rid of food poisoning. Whatever the black stuff is called one uses in addition to the CS, I do remember that the purpose is to absorb the toxins the bacteria put out that make us sick. Hope this helps. Jill In a message dated 10/19/2011 1:13:49 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, bhangcha...@gmail.com writes: How do you make activated charcoal out of ash, as is stated in the referenced article?... Doesn't seem possible. Dan On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 2:15 PM, Scott Adams msad...@msadams.com wrote: BTW I have learned that burnt toast is NOT activated charcoal! Its created in a totally different way. http://www.buzzle.com/articles/how-to-make-activated-charcoal.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Activated_carbon Scott Adams www.lyme-resource.com You can lead a person to a fact, but you can't make them think! - Scott Adams From: grace1...@aol.com [mailto:grace1...@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 1:03 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSOT - MMS Yes, for food poisoning, I and others just drink a pint of colloidal silver and eat a piece of burned toast (for activated carbon to soak up toxins). The acute cases with which I have experience have disappeared in 20 minutes! Jill In a message dated 10/19/2011 10:10:37 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, msad...@msadams.com writes: Food poisoning can pass by itself in that length of time. MMS is indiscriminate. It will damage organs as readily as a pathogen. It like being in a room of kids and thugs and closing your eyes and shooting. No idea at all what you will hit. Why take the risk? CS is far safer. Scott Adams www.lyme-resource.com You can lead a person to a fact, but you can't make them think! - Scott Adams -Original Message- From: Bob Banever [mailto:bbane...@earthlink.net] Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 9:53 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSOT - MMS David and All, MMS can be a life saver... it is certainly far safer than any antibiotic and much more effective for a wider range of pathogens. Sure accidents can happen... and if someone is getting sick on one or two drops of MMS then this is a HERX reaction... something is wrong with the patient, not the medicine. I have used this for over three years for colds and a case of food poisoning... in EVERY instance it has shortened the duration of the illness to 3 days maximum, usually 2, and my food poisoning was gone in less than 18 hours, truly amazing. Bob - Original Message - From: David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 2:41 PM Subject: Re: CSOT - MMS Three injuries I have heard personally, without even looking for them: -A patient went blind in one eye after getting MMS in his eye -2 patients had collapsed veins after an IV MMS treatment using unactivated MMS (sodium chlorite) ~David -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSOT - MMS/hydrogen peroxide
Note if you do use Hydrogen Peroxide be sure its food grade. Due it breaking down the store bought regular versions have toxic chemicals added to stabilize it! _ From: grace1...@aol.com [mailto:grace1...@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 3:49 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSOT - MMS/hydrogen peroxide I wonder if we could include hydrogen peroxide in this line of discussion. I bought a book about it, and the H2O2. I shared these with three people, all of whom had trouble with vomiting and discontinued it. That made me feel really bad for them. Because of the concern about vomiting/nausea, I never tried either of these myself. Does anyone have any comments about hydrogen peroxide--on a similar vein to what has been discussed with MMS? I doubt that it is poisonous, because I understand that the body makes it for defense against pathogens. What do others think? Thanks, Jill In a message dated 10/19/2011 1:40:23 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, gaiac...@gmail.com writes: I would stay away from it too. I do not know what all your health issues are, but if 1 drop does that, then it's pretty poisonous for you. My Dad had leukemia and was also diabetic and he could take one drop, though 2 made him FEEL nauseous. He didn't throw up or have diarrhea, but he didn't like the feeling of being nauseous, naturally. He was a big guy too--240 plus pounds, 6 foot 2 inches. I know Humble says that it's the die off, but if it affects you that bad either you are extremely ill, or it's simply not for you. I would think it wasn't for you and would not push it. There are other ways of using a more dilute MMS, at only 5%, that can be very helpful around the house as a cleaner and such, though, so that your bottle isn't wasted. And--it makes a great descaler. We have very hard water here and get terrible lime build up on everything. I mix up a big squirt of MMS and a big squirt of white vinegar, let it sit about 10 minutes, and put that into my dishwasher. I run a cycle and boy, does that dishwasher come out sparkling clean! Lol my friend uses her MMS to descale her coffee pots. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- I was on one drop a day with the projectile vomiting, along with wonderful diarrhea. It was too much for me and I won't take it again. I tried 3 times and each time was so ill. It just isn't for me. happy.gif
Re: CSOT - MMS/hydrogen peroxide
Yes, we got food grade 35% H2O2, and followed the instruction book to the letter, but still had vomiting. Just wondered if anyone else out there has information about why this happens, and what to do about it. Jill In a message dated 10/20/2011 5:36:46 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, msad...@msadams.com writes: Note if you do use Hydrogen Peroxide be sure its food grade. Due it breaking down the store bought regular versions have toxic chemicals added to stabilize it! From: grace1...@aol.com [mailto:grace1...@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 3:49 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSOT - MMS/hydrogen peroxide I wonder if we could include hydrogen peroxide in this line of discussion. I bought a book about it, and the H2O2. I shared these with three people, all of whom had trouble with vomiting and discontinued it. That made me feel really bad for them. Because of the concern about vomiting/nausea, I never tried either of these myself. Does anyone have any comments about hydrogen peroxide--on a similar vein to what has been discussed with MMS? I doubt that it is poisonous, because I understand that the body makes it for defense against pathogens. What do others think? Thanks, Jill In a message dated 10/19/2011 1:40:23 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, gaiac...@gmail.com writes: I would stay away from it too. I do not know what all your health issues are, but if 1 drop does that, then it's pretty poisonous for you. My Dad had leukemia and was also diabetic and he could take one drop, though 2 made him FEEL nauseous. He didn't throw up or have diarrhea, but he didn't like the feeling of being nauseous, naturally. He was a big guy too--240 plus pounds, 6 foot 2 inches. I know Humble says that it's the die off, but if it affects you that bad either you are extremely ill, or it's simply not for you. I would think it wasn't for you and would not push it. There are other ways of using a more dilute MMS, at only 5%, that can be very helpful around the house as a cleaner and such, though, so that your bottle isn't wasted. And--it makes a great descaler. We have very hard water here and get terrible lime build up on everything. I mix up a big squirt of MMS and a big squirt of white vinegar, let it sit about 10 minutes, and put that into my dishwasher. I run a cycle and boy, does that dishwasher come out sparkling clean! Lol my friend uses her MMS to descale her coffee pots. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- I was on one drop a day with the projectile vomiting, along with wonderful diarrhea. It was too much for me and I won't take it again. I tried 3 times and each time was so ill. It just isn't for me. inline: happy.gif
Re: CSOT - MMS/hydrogen peroxide
they may have increased their dosages too quickly or taken it too close to meals or boththis is an easy-does-it protocol and needs to be taken away from foodPeterFrom: "grace1...@aol.com" grace1...@aol.comTo: silver-list@eskimo.comSent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 9:47:50 AMSubject: Re: CSOT - MMS/hydrogen peroxide Yes, we got food grade 35% H2O2, and followed the instruction book to the letter, but still had vomiting. Just wondered if anyone else out there has information about why this happens, and what to do about it. Jill In a message dated 10/20/2011 5:36:46 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, msad...@msadams.com writes: Note if you do use Hydrogen Peroxide be sure its food grade. Due it breaking down the store bought regular versions have toxic chemicals added to stabilize it! From: grace1...@aol.com [mailto:grace1...@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 3:49 PMTo: silver-list@eskimo.comSubject: Re: CSOT - MMS/hydrogen peroxide I wonder if we could include hydrogen peroxide in this line of discussion. I bought abook about it, and the H2O2. I shared these with three people, all of whom had trouble with vomiting and discontinued it. That made me feel really bad for them. Because of the concern about vomiting/nausea, I never tried either of these myself. Does anyone have any comments about hydrogen peroxide--on a similar vein to what has been discussed with MMS? I doubt that it is poisonous, because I understand that the body makes it for defense against pathogens. What do others think? Thanks, Jill In a message dated 10/19/2011 1:40:23 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, gaiac...@gmail.com writes: I would stay away from it too. I do not knowwhat all your health issues are, but if 1 drop does that, then it's pretty poisonous for you. My Dad had leukemia and was also diabetic andhe could take one drop, though 2 made him FEEL nauseous. He didn'tthrow up or have diarrhea, but he didn't like the feeling of being nauseous, naturally. He was a big guy too--240 plus pounds, 6 foot 2 inches. I know Humble says that it's the die off, but if itaffects you that bad either you are extremely ill, orit's simply not for you. I would think it wasn't for you and would not push it. There are other ways of using a more dilute MMS, at only 5%, that can be very helpful around the house as a cleaner and such, though, so that your bottle isn't wasted. And--it makes a great descaler. We have very hard water here and get terrible lime build up on everything. Imix up a big squirt of MMS and a big squirt ofwhite vinegar, let it sit about 10 minutes, and put that into my dishwasher. I run a cycle and boy, does that dishwasher come out sparkling clean! Lol my friend uses her MMS to descale her coffee pots. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- I was on one drop a day with the projectile vomiting, along with wonderful diarrhea. It was too much for me and I won't take it again. I tried 3 times and each time was so ill. It just isn't for me.
Re: CSOT - MMS
Scott, I felt an immediate sense of relief after the first dose of MMS... it got progressively better after that so I know the MMS was killing the bad bacteria. I've never used more than 6 drops of chlorine dioxide at a time diluted in 4 oz of water, and most of the time it's only two drops. I've also never used it for more than two days at a time and never suffered any side effects short or long term. I also use CS but haven't found it to be as effective for viral conditions. Bob - Original Message - From: Scott Adams msad...@msadams.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 10:09 AM Subject: RE: CSOT - MMS Food poisoning can pass by itself in that length of time. MMS is indiscriminate. It will damage organs as readily as a pathogen. It like being in a room of kids and thugs and closing your eyes and shooting. No idea at all what you will hit. Why take the risk? CS is far safer. Scott Adams www.lyme-resource.com You can lead a person to a fact, but you can't make them think! - Scott Adams -Original Message- From: Bob Banever [mailto:bbane...@earthlink.net] Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 9:53 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSOT - MMS David and All, MMS can be a life saver... it is certainly far safer than any antibiotic and much more effective for a wider range of pathogens. Sure accidents can happen... and if someone is getting sick on one or two drops of MMS then this is a HERX reaction... something is wrong with the patient, not the medicine. I have used this for over three years for colds and a case of food poisoning... in EVERY instance it has shortened the duration of the illness to 3 days maximum, usually 2, and my food poisoning was gone in less than 18 hours, truly amazing. Bob - Original Message - From: David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 2:41 PM Subject: Re: CSOT - MMS Three injuries I have heard personally, without even looking for them: -A patient went blind in one eye after getting MMS in his eye -2 patients had collapsed veins after an IV MMS treatment using unactivated MMS (sodium chlorite) ~David -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT - MMS
Yep, there are many people that successfully use MMS. It's great for them as it really can do a good job of killing internal pathogens. It's just that it's not for everyone, contrary to what Humble says. We don't use it often here, but I would never be without it. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- I felt an immediate sense of relief after the first dose of MMS...
RE: CSOT - MMS
Thanks for the feedback! -Original Message- From: Bob Banever [mailto:bbane...@earthlink.net] Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 10:01 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSOT - MMS Scott, I felt an immediate sense of relief after the first dose of MMS... it got progressively better after that so I know the MMS was killing the bad bacteria. I've never used more than 6 drops of chlorine dioxide at a time diluted in 4 oz of water, and most of the time it's only two drops. I've also never used it for more than two days at a time and never suffered any side effects short or long term. I also use CS but haven't found it to be as effective for viral conditions. Bob - Original Message - From: Scott Adams msad...@msadams.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 10:09 AM Subject: RE: CSOT - MMS Food poisoning can pass by itself in that length of time. MMS is indiscriminate. It will damage organs as readily as a pathogen. It like being in a room of kids and thugs and closing your eyes and shooting. No idea at all what you will hit. Why take the risk? CS is far safer. Scott Adams www.lyme-resource.com You can lead a person to a fact, but you can't make them think! - Scott Adams -Original Message- From: Bob Banever [mailto:bbane...@earthlink.net] Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 9:53 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSOT - MMS David and All, MMS can be a life saver... it is certainly far safer than any antibiotic and much more effective for a wider range of pathogens. Sure accidents can happen... and if someone is getting sick on one or two drops of MMS then this is a HERX reaction... something is wrong with the patient, not the medicine. I have used this for over three years for colds and a case of food poisoning... in EVERY instance it has shortened the duration of the illness to 3 days maximum, usually 2, and my food poisoning was gone in less than 18 hours, truly amazing. Bob - Original Message - From: David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 2:41 PM Subject: Re: CSOT - MMS Three injuries I have heard personally, without even looking for them: -A patient went blind in one eye after getting MMS in his eye -2 patients had collapsed veins after an IV MMS treatment using unactivated MMS (sodium chlorite) ~David -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
FW: CSOT - MMS
I had no reply so I am sending it along again. Thanks. PT From: PTFerrance [mailto:ptf2...@bellsouth.net] Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 9:47 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSOT - MMS What is the Iodine Protocol? Thanks. PT From: tobdn...@aol.com [mailto:tobdn...@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 11:49 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSOT - MMS I was on one drop a day with the projectile vomiting, along with wonderful diarrhea. It was too much for me and I won't take it again. I tried 3 times and each time was so ill. It just isn't for me. I have found that Low Dose Naltrexone has been a miracle for me, as has the Iodine Protocol. I will take both forever. There is detox on the Iodine Protocol, but it can be managed much better than that MMS, for me at least. Glowing, Marygrace~ Original Message Subj: Date: 10/18/2011 5:14:05 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time From: ptf2...@bellsouth.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent on: So how does one know, Renee? Just stick to the 3 drop every 2 hour method? Thanks. PT From: gaiac...@gmail.com [mailto:gaiac...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 5:37 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSOT - MMS A person absolutely has to know how to use MMS, and for some people it is never any good. Humbel's continued insistence that it's perfectly safe for everyone is WRONG. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- Additionally, I still have big circles under my eyes, that were not there before. I don't recommend it for anyone. That is just me though. No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com/ Version: 2012.0.1831 / Virus Database: 2092/4559 - Release Date: 10/18/11 No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1831 / Virus Database: 2092/4560 - Release Date: 10/18/11 No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1831 / Virus Database: 2092/4560 - Release Date: 10/18/11
RE: CSOT - MMS
I read that for people like yourself ½ drop might be necessary. I would think that only drinking part of the solution in water, like a mouthful to start might be the way to proceed should you ever need to take it because other things stopped working. PT From: tobdn...@aol.com [mailto:tobdn...@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 11:49 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSOT - MMS I was on one drop a day with the projectile vomiting, along with wonderful diarrhea. It was too much for me and I won't take it again. I tried 3 times and each time was so ill. It just isn't for me. I have found that Low Dose Naltrexone has been a miracle for me, as has the Iodine Protocol. I will take both forever. There is detox on the Iodine Protocol, but it can be managed much better than that MMS, for me at least. Glowing, Marygrace~ Original Message Subj: Date: 10/18/2011 5:14:05 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time From: ptf2...@bellsouth.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent on: So how does one know, Renee? Just stick to the 3 drop every 2 hour method? Thanks. PT From: gaiac...@gmail.com [mailto:gaiac...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 5:37 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSOT - MMS A person absolutely has to know how to use MMS, and for some people it is never any good. Humbel's continued insistence that it's perfectly safe for everyone is WRONG. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- Additionally, I still have big circles under my eyes, that were not there before. I don't recommend it for anyone. That is just me though. No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com/ Version: 2012.0.1831 / Virus Database: 2092/4559 - Release Date: 10/18/11 No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1831 / Virus Database: 2092/4560 - Release Date: 10/18/11
RE: CSOT - MMS
What is the Iodine Protocol? Thanks. PT From: tobdn...@aol.com [mailto:tobdn...@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 11:49 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSOT - MMS I was on one drop a day with the projectile vomiting, along with wonderful diarrhea. It was too much for me and I won't take it again. I tried 3 times and each time was so ill. It just isn't for me. I have found that Low Dose Naltrexone has been a miracle for me, as has the Iodine Protocol. I will take both forever. There is detox on the Iodine Protocol, but it can be managed much better than that MMS, for me at least. Glowing, Marygrace~ Original Message Subj: Date: 10/18/2011 5:14:05 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time From: ptf2...@bellsouth.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent on: So how does one know, Renee? Just stick to the 3 drop every 2 hour method? Thanks. PT From: gaiac...@gmail.com [mailto:gaiac...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 5:37 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSOT - MMS A person absolutely has to know how to use MMS, and for some people it is never any good. Humbel's continued insistence that it's perfectly safe for everyone is WRONG. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- Additionally, I still have big circles under my eyes, that were not there before. I don't recommend it for anyone. That is just me though. No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com/ Version: 2012.0.1831 / Virus Database: 2092/4559 - Release Date: 10/18/11 No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1831 / Virus Database: 2092/4560 - Release Date: 10/18/11
RE: CSOT - MMS
Food poisoning can pass by itself in that length of time. MMS is indiscriminate. It will damage organs as readily as a pathogen. It like being in a room of kids and thugs and closing your eyes and shooting. No idea at all what you will hit. Why take the risk? CS is far safer. Scott Adams www.lyme-resource.com You can lead a person to a fact, but you can't make them think! - Scott Adams -Original Message- From: Bob Banever [mailto:bbane...@earthlink.net] Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 9:53 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSOT - MMS David and All, MMS can be a life saver... it is certainly far safer than any antibiotic and much more effective for a wider range of pathogens. Sure accidents can happen... and if someone is getting sick on one or two drops of MMS then this is a HERX reaction... something is wrong with the patient, not the medicine. I have used this for over three years for colds and a case of food poisoning... in EVERY instance it has shortened the duration of the illness to 3 days maximum, usually 2, and my food poisoning was gone in less than 18 hours, truly amazing. Bob - Original Message - From: David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 2:41 PM Subject: Re: CSOT - MMS Three injuries I have heard personally, without even looking for them: -A patient went blind in one eye after getting MMS in his eye -2 patients had collapsed veins after an IV MMS treatment using unactivated MMS (sodium chlorite) ~David -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT - MMS
Yes, for food poisoning, I and others just drink a pint of colloidal silver and eat a piece of burned toast (for activated carbon to soak up toxins). The acute cases with which I have experience have disappeared in 20 minutes! Jill In a message dated 10/19/2011 10:10:37 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, msad...@msadams.com writes: Food poisoning can pass by itself in that length of time. MMS is indiscriminate. It will damage organs as readily as a pathogen. It like being in a room of kids and thugs and closing your eyes and shooting. No idea at all what you will hit. Why take the risk? CS is far safer. Scott Adams www.lyme-resource.com You can lead a person to a fact, but you can't make them think! - Scott Adams -Original Message- From: Bob Banever [mailto:bbane...@earthlink.net] Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 9:53 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSOT - MMS David and All, MMS can be a life saver... it is certainly far safer than any antibiotic and much more effective for a wider range of pathogens. Sure accidents can happen... and if someone is getting sick on one or two drops of MMS then this is a HERX reaction... something is wrong with the patient, not the medicine. I have used this for over three years for colds and a case of food poisoning... in EVERY instance it has shortened the duration of the illness to 3 days maximum, usually 2, and my food poisoning was gone in less than 18 hours, truly amazing. Bob - Original Message - From: David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 2:41 PM Subject: Re: CSOT - MMS Three injuries I have heard personally, without even looking for them: -A patient went blind in one eye after getting MMS in his eye -2 patients had collapsed veins after an IV MMS treatment using unactivated MMS (sodium chlorite) ~David -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSOT - MMS
BTW I have learned that burnt toast is NOT activated charcoal! Its created in a totally different way. http://www.buzzle.com/articles/how-to-make-activated-charcoal.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Activated_carbon Scott Adams www.lyme-resource.com http://www.lyme-resource.com/ You can lead a person to a fact, but you can't make them think! - Scott Adams _ From: grace1...@aol.com [mailto:grace1...@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 1:03 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSOT - MMS Yes, for food poisoning, I and others just drink a pint of colloidal silver and eat a piece of burned toast (for activated carbon to soak up toxins). The acute cases with which I have experience have disappeared in 20 minutes! Jill In a message dated 10/19/2011 10:10:37 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, msad...@msadams.com writes: Food poisoning can pass by itself in that length of time. MMS is indiscriminate. It will damage organs as readily as a pathogen. It like being in a room of kids and thugs and closing your eyes and shooting. No idea at all what you will hit. Why take the risk? CS is far safer. Scott Adams www.lyme-resource.com You can lead a person to a fact, but you can't make them think! - Scott Adams -Original Message- From: Bob Banever [mailto:bbane...@earthlink.net] Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 9:53 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSOT - MMS David and All, MMS can be a life saver... it is certainly far safer than any antibiotic and much more effective for a wider range of pathogens. Sure accidents can happen... and if someone is getting sick on one or two drops of MMS then this is a HERX reaction... something is wrong with the patient, not the medicine. I have used this for over three years for colds and a case of food poisoning... in EVERY instance it has shortened the duration of the illness to 3 days maximum, usually 2, and my food poisoning was gone in less than 18 hours, truly amazing. Bob - Original Message - From: David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 2:41 PM Subject: Re: CSOT - MMS Three injuries I have heard personally, without even looking for them: -A patient went blind in one eye after getting MMS in his eye -2 patients had collapsed veins after an IV MMS treatment using unactivated MMS (sodium chlorite) ~David -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT - MMS
How do you make activated charcoal out of ash, as is stated in the referenced article?... Doesn't seem possible. Dan On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 2:15 PM, Scott Adams msad...@msadams.com wrote: BTW I have learned that burnt toast is NOT activated charcoal! Its created in a totally different way. http://www.buzzle.com/articles/how-to-make-activated-charcoal.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Activated_carbon Scott Adams www.lyme-resource.com You can lead a person to a fact, but you can't make them think! - Scott Adams From: grace1...@aol.com [mailto:grace1...@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 1:03 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSOT - MMS Yes, for food poisoning, I and others just drink a pint of colloidal silver and eat a piece of burned toast (for activated carbon to soak up toxins). The acute cases with which I have experience have disappeared in 20 minutes! Jill In a message dated 10/19/2011 10:10:37 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, msad...@msadams.com writes: Food poisoning can pass by itself in that length of time. MMS is indiscriminate. It will damage organs as readily as a pathogen. It like being in a room of kids and thugs and closing your eyes and shooting. No idea at all what you will hit. Why take the risk? CS is far safer. Scott Adams www.lyme-resource.com You can lead a person to a fact, but you can't make them think! - Scott Adams -Original Message- From: Bob Banever [mailto:bbane...@earthlink.net] Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 9:53 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSOT - MMS David and All, MMS can be a life saver... it is certainly far safer than any antibiotic and much more effective for a wider range of pathogens. Sure accidents can happen... and if someone is getting sick on one or two drops of MMS then this is a HERX reaction... something is wrong with the patient, not the medicine. I have used this for over three years for colds and a case of food poisoning... in EVERY instance it has shortened the duration of the illness to 3 days maximum, usually 2, and my food poisoning was gone in less than 18 hours, truly amazing. Bob - Original Message - From: David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 2:41 PM Subject: Re: CSOT - MMS Three injuries I have heard personally, without even looking for them: -A patient went blind in one eye after getting MMS in his eye -2 patients had collapsed veins after an IV MMS treatment using unactivated MMS (sodium chlorite) ~David -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT - MMS
I don't know if the correct term is activated charcoal, or activated carbon. I know that very burned toast (black) and activated charcoal/carbon capsules will serve the same purpose. I seem to remember you can get the charcoal/carbon capsules at a health food store. Sorry, I'm not a scientist, or a chemist. I just wanted to share an amazingly effective and simple way to get rid of food poisoning. Whatever the black stuff is called one uses in addition to the CS, I do remember that the purpose is to absorb the toxins the bacteria put out that make us sick. Hope this helps. Jill In a message dated 10/19/2011 1:13:49 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, bhangcha...@gmail.com writes: How do you make activated charcoal out of ash, as is stated in the referenced article?... Doesn't seem possible. Dan On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 2:15 PM, Scott Adams msad...@msadams.com wrote: BTW I have learned that burnt toast is NOT activated charcoal! Its created in a totally different way. http://www.buzzle.com/articles/how-to-make-activated-charcoal.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Activated_carbon Scott Adams www.lyme-resource.com You can lead a person to a fact, but you can't make them think! - Scott Adams From: grace1...@aol.com [mailto:grace1...@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 1:03 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSOT - MMS Yes, for food poisoning, I and others just drink a pint of colloidal silver and eat a piece of burned toast (for activated carbon to soak up toxins). The acute cases with which I have experience have disappeared in 20 minutes! Jill In a message dated 10/19/2011 10:10:37 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, msad...@msadams.com writes: Food poisoning can pass by itself in that length of time. MMS is indiscriminate. It will damage organs as readily as a pathogen. It like being in a room of kids and thugs and closing your eyes and shooting. No idea at all what you will hit. Why take the risk? CS is far safer. Scott Adams www.lyme-resource.com You can lead a person to a fact, but you can't make them think! - Scott Adams -Original Message- From: Bob Banever [mailto:bbane...@earthlink.net] Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 9:53 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSOT - MMS David and All, MMS can be a life saver... it is certainly far safer than any antibiotic and much more effective for a wider range of pathogens. Sure accidents can happen... and if someone is getting sick on one or two drops of MMS then this is a HERX reaction... something is wrong with the patient, not the medicine. I have used this for over three years for colds and a case of food poisoning... in EVERY instance it has shortened the duration of the illness to 3 days maximum, usually 2, and my food poisoning was gone in less than 18 hours, truly amazing. Bob - Original Message - From: David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 2:41 PM Subject: Re: CSOT - MMS Three injuries I have heard personally, without even looking for them: -A patient went blind in one eye after getting MMS in his eye -2 patients had collapsed veins after an IV MMS treatment using unactivated MMS (sodium chlorite) ~David -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSOT - MMS
I would stay away from it too. I do not know what all your health issues are, but if 1 drop does that, then it's pretty poisonous for you. My Dad had leukemia and was also diabetic and he could take one drop, though 2 made him FEEL nauseous. He didn't throw up or have diarrhea, but he didn t like the feeling of being nauseous, naturally. He was a big guy too--240 plus pounds, 6 foot 2 inches. I know Humble says that it's the die off, but if it affects you that bad either you are extremely ill, or it's simply not for you. I would think it wasn't for you and would not push it. There are other ways of using a more dilute MMS, at only 5%, that can be very helpful around the house as a cleaner and such, though, so that your bottle isn't wasted. And--it makes a great descaler. We have very hard water here and get terrible lime build up on everything. I mix up a big squirt of MMS and a big squirt of white vinegar, let it sit about 10 minutes, and put that into my dishwasher. I run a cycle and boy, does that dishwasher come out sparkling clean! Lol my friend uses her MMS to descale her coffee pots. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- I was on one drop a day with the projectile vomiting, along with wonderful diarrhea. It was too much for me and I won't take it again. I tried 3 times and each time was so ill. It just isn't for me. happy.gif
Re: CSOT - MMS/hydrogen peroxide
I wonder if we could include hydrogen peroxide in this line of discussion. I bought a book about it, and the H2O2. I shared these with three people, all of whom had trouble with vomiting and discontinued it. That made me feel really bad for them. Because of the concern about vomiting/nausea, I never tried either of these myself. Does anyone have any comments about hydrogen peroxide--on a similar vein to what has been discussed with MMS? I doubt that it is poisonous, because I understand that the body makes it for defense against pathogens. What do others think? Thanks, Jill In a message dated 10/19/2011 1:40:23 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, gaiac...@gmail.com writes: I would stay away from it too. I do not know what all your health issues are, but if 1 drop does that, then it's pretty poisonous for you. My Dad had leukemia and was also diabetic and he could take one drop, though 2 made him FEEL nauseous. He didn't throw up or have diarrhea, but he didn't like the feeling of being nauseous, naturally. He was a big guy too--240 plus pounds, 6 foot 2 inches. I know Humble says that it's the die off, but if it affects you that bad either you are extremely ill, or it's simply not for you. I would think it wasn't for you and would not push it. There are other ways of using a more dilute MMS, at only 5%, that can be very helpful around the house as a cleaner and such, though, so that your bottle isn't wasted. And--it makes a great descaler. We have very hard water here and get terrible lime build up on everything. I mix up a big squirt of MMS and a big squirt of white vinegar, let it sit about 10 minutes, and put that into my dishwasher. I run a cycle and boy, does that dishwasher come out sparkling clean! Lol my friend uses her MMS to descale her coffee pots. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- I was on one drop a day with the projectile vomiting, along with wonderful diarrhea. It was too much for me and I won't take it again. I tried 3 times and each time was so ill. It just isn't for me. inline: happy.gif
Re: CSOT - MMS/hydrogen peroxide
I found the taste, or more so the after taste of H2O2 made me feel sick. It is also very reactive so good not take on a full stomach. It never gave me Diarrhea like MMS did. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld -Original Message- From: grace1...@aol.com Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 16:48:50 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSOT - MMS/hydrogen peroxide I wonder if we could include hydrogen peroxide in this line of discussion. I bought a book about it, and the H2O2. I shared these with three people, all of whom had trouble with vomiting and discontinued it. That made me feel really bad for them. Because of the concern about vomiting/nausea, I never tried either of these myself. Does anyone have any comments about hydrogen peroxide--on a similar vein to what has been discussed with MMS? I doubt that it is poisonous, because I understand that the body makes it for defense against pathogens. What do others think? Thanks, Jill In a message dated 10/19/2011 1:40:23 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, gaiac...@gmail.com writes: I would stay away from it too. I do not know what all your health issues are, but if 1 drop does that, then it's pretty poisonous for you. My Dad had leukemia and was also diabetic and he could take one drop, though 2 made him FEEL nauseous. He didn't throw up or have diarrhea, but he didn't like the feeling of being nauseous, naturally. He was a big guy too--240 plus pounds, 6 foot 2 inches. I know Humble says that it's the die off, but if it affects you that bad either you are extremely ill, or it's simply not for you. I would think it wasn't for you and would not push it. There are other ways of using a more dilute MMS, at only 5%, that can be very helpful around the house as a cleaner and such, though, so that your bottle isn't wasted. And--it makes a great descaler. We have very hard water here and get terrible lime build up on everything. I mix up a big squirt of MMS and a big squirt of white vinegar, let it sit about 10 minutes, and put that into my dishwasher. I run a cycle and boy, does that dishwasher come out sparkling clean! Lol my friend uses her MMS to descale her coffee pots. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- I was on one drop a day with the projectile vomiting, along with wonderful diarrhea. It was too much for me and I won't take it again. I tried 3 times and each time was so ill. It just isn't for me.
Re: CSOT - MMS
Heh... At my house, we call it dinner... Chuck Those that forget the pasta are doomed to reheat it. On 10/19/2011 4:38:16 PM, grace1...@aol.com wrote: I don't know if the correct term is activated charcoal, or activated carbon. I know that very burned toast (black) and activated charcoal/carbon capsules will serve the same purpose. I seem to remember you can get the charcoal/carbon capsules at a health food store. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSOT - MMS
Hi, I have a couple of questions about MMS for those who use it, if you don't mind answering. First, when using vinegar will any vinegar do the job. white or apple cider? Second, do you stop taking your multi-vitamin while using MMS? Since most have Vit C in them and one is supposed to take the MMS every 2 hours or so it would seem that it is necessary to discontinue supplements with Vit C. Thanks for any help you can give. PT
Re: CSOT - MMS
Hey PT. I've been making and using it for 5 years now. Any vinegar will do. As will lemon or lime juice, fresh or bottled. Fresh is better naturally, but many people have used bottled Real Lemon Juice (which isn't ) and activated it. I've used both white vinegar and acv. Chlorine dioxide, which is what activated MMS is, only stays in the body for 15 minutes or so. Humble use to say it lasted 12 hours, but the chemists proved him wrong. They say it only lasts about 10 to 15 minutes, but you could give it a half hour to be sure. That's actually why he switched from his twice a day 15 drop protocol, to every 2 hours with less drops--not because it is stronger this way, but because it actually is more effective because you are getting it into the body more often due to it not lasting very long. He just doesn't like to say that as he doesn't like to be proved wrong. He prefers to say he 'invented a new protocol'. What I tell people is to take their C just before bedtime, if they are dosing with MMS throughout the day. Take your last dose of MMS, wait a half hour, then load up on C. That gives the C plenty of time in the body. Every so often--once a week or so--stop the MMS and take C all day long. Samala, renee ---Original Message--- I have a couple of questions about MMS for those who use it, if you dont mind answering. happy.gif
RE: CSOT - MMS
Thanks, Renee and Dan. All was helpful. PT From: gaiac...@gmail.com [mailto:gaiac...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 10:46 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSOT - MMS Hey PT. I've been making and using it for 5 years now. Any vinegar will do. As will lemon or lime juice, fresh or bottled. Fresh is better naturally, but many people have used bottled Real Lemon Juice (which isn't ) and activated it. I've used both white vinegar and acv. Chlorine dioxide, which is what activated MMS is, only stays in the body for 15 minutes or so. Humble use to say it lasted 12 hours, but the chemists proved him wrong. They say it only lasts about 10 to 15 minutes, but you could give it a half hour to be sure. That's actually why he switched from his twice a day 15 drop protocol, to every 2 hours with less drops--not because it is stronger this way, but because it actually is more effective because you are getting it into the body more often due to it not lasting very long. He just doesn't like to say that as he doesn't like to be proved wrong. He prefers to say he 'invented a new protocol'. What I tell people is to take their C just before bedtime, if they are dosing with MMS throughout the day. Take your last dose of MMS, wait a half hour, then load up on C. That gives the C plenty of time in the body. Every so often--once a week or so--stop the MMS and take C all day long. Samala, renee ---Original Message--- I have a couple of questions about MMS for those who use it, if you don't mind answering. _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1831 / Virus Database: 2092/4559 - Release Date: 10/18/11 No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1831 / Virus Database: 2092/4559 - Release Date: 10/18/11 image001.gif
Re: CSOT - MMS
PT, I've used MMS for a few years on and off now. I've never had any side effects whatsoever and yes, you should stop taking Vit.C in any form while taking it. Vit.C can be taken after two hours however. You should use apple cider vinegar, not white vinegar. I've never used vinegar, always citric acid or lemon juice. Good luck. Bob - Original Message - From: PTFerrance To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 6:54 AM Subject: CSOT - MMS Hi, I have a couple of questions about MMS for those who use it, if you don't mind answering. First, when using vinegar will any vinegar do the job. white or apple cider? Second, do you stop taking your multi-vitamin while using MMS? Since most have Vit C in them and one is supposed to take the MMS every 2 hours or so it would seem that it is necessary to discontinue supplements with Vit C. Thanks for any help you can give. PT
RE: CSOT - MMS
Hi Renee, Does the vinegar/lemon juice work for making a spray concentration? Also, I was thinking more about multi-vitamins than an actual C capsule, but if I only have to wait ½ hour that works. I cannot take large doses of C without problems. Thanks, PT From: gaiac...@gmail.com [mailto:gaiac...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 10:46 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSOT - MMS Hey PT. I've been making and using it for 5 years now. Any vinegar will do. As will lemon or lime juice, fresh or bottled. Fresh is better naturally, but many people have used bottled Real Lemon Juice (which isn't ) and activated it. I've used both white vinegar and acv. Chlorine dioxide, which is what activated MMS is, only stays in the body for 15 minutes or so. Humble use to say it lasted 12 hours, but the chemists proved him wrong. They say it only lasts about 10 to 15 minutes, but you could give it a half hour to be sure. That's actually why he switched from his twice a day 15 drop protocol, to every 2 hours with less drops--not because it is stronger this way, but because it actually is more effective because you are getting it into the body more often due to it not lasting very long. He just doesn't like to say that as he doesn't like to be proved wrong. He prefers to say he 'invented a new protocol'. What I tell people is to take their C just before bedtime, if they are dosing with MMS throughout the day. Take your last dose of MMS, wait a half hour, then load up on C. That gives the C plenty of time in the body. Every so often--once a week or so--stop the MMS and take C all day long. Samala, renee ---Original Message--- I have a couple of questions about MMS for those who use it, if you dont mind answering. _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1831 / Virus Database: 2092/4559 - Release Date: 10/18/11 No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1831 / Virus Database: 2092/4559 - Release Date: 10/18/11 image001.gif
Re: CSOT - MMS
MMS made me very sick. I ended up having projectile vomiting for a day. I started very slow with the dose too. I tried it again several times and had other horrible reactions. Additionally, I still have big circles under my eyes, that were not there before. I don't recommend it for anyone. That is just me though. Glowing, Marygrace~ Original Message Subj: Date: 10/18/2011 6:55:07 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time From: _ptf2009@bellsouth.net_ (mailto:ptf2...@bellsouth.net) To: _silver-list@eskimo.com_ (mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com) Sent on: Hi, I have a couple of questions about MMS for those who use it, if you don’t mind answering. First, when using vinegar will any vinegar do the job… white or apple cider? Second, do you stop taking your multi-vitamin while using MMS? Since most have Vit C in them and one is supposed to take the MMS every 2 hours or so it would seem that it is necessary to discontinue supplements with Vit C. Thanks for any help you can give. PT
Re: CSOT - MMS
A person absolutely has to know how to use MMS, and for some people it is never any good. Humbel's continued insistence that it's perfectly safe for everyone is WRONG. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- Additionally, I still have big circles under my eyes, that were not there before. I don't recommend it for anyone. That is just me though.
Re: CSOT - MMS
Three injuries I have heard personally, without even looking for them: -A patient went blind in one eye after getting MMS in his eye -2 patients had collapsed veins after an IV MMS treatment using unactivated MMS (sodium chlorite) ~David -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSOT - MMS
So how does one know, Renee? Just stick to the 3 drop every 2 hour method? Thanks. PT From: gaiac...@gmail.com [mailto:gaiac...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 5:37 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSOT - MMS A person absolutely has to know how to use MMS, and for some people it is never any good. Humbel's continued insistence that it's perfectly safe for everyone is WRONG. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- Additionally, I still have big circles under my eyes, that were not there before. I don't recommend it for anyone. That is just me though. No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1831 / Virus Database: 2092/4559 - Release Date: 10/18/11
RE: CSOT - MMS
Even that can have a bad effect on certain people. These people are in the minority, but--simply pay attention to your body. If it's really reacting to MMS then don't take it--or go VERY slow, like one drop, and see what happens. There are those people that push through. Some get better--some don't. No one can say for sure how anyone is going to react. We DO know that chlorine dioxide is poisonous. And too much will make anyone throw up and have diarrhea. Humble claims this is from pathogen die-off, but the chemists say it's from chlorine poisoning. Personally, I think it is poisoning. Would I still use MMS? Yes, and I do. I'm just very careful. Any medicine, whether home made or allopathic, can be bad if taken in too large a dose. Actually, this can be said of anything. So--you just have to take it and know your body. If you are in doubt about whether your reaction is too extreme or normal, then stop taking it. Give your body a rest, then try again. I asked the chemist that uses sodium chlorite (MMS) every day. I asked him why, if it wasn't killing small amounts of pathogens and the body getting better and better--why was a person able to take more and more drops every day? His answer was pretty insightful--he said how many people hack and cough the first couple times they smoke a cigarette, but then eventually their bodies get use to it and they don't cough anymore. A body can adjust, even if something is very bad for it. We are remarkable that way. I guess the best litmus is how do you feel afterwards. Something that helps should make you feel better, and I'm not one of those that think horrid detoxes are good for the body. I think a detox should be slow and comfortable, as much as possible. So if I took MMS and it made me feel terrible, I wouldn't take it again. If I took it, and it made me feel bad, but later I felt a little better, then I'd continue taking it. It's different for each person. I've known list members that have felt like MMS was killing them, but they pushed through and said that all their illnesses fell by the wayside in a few months. I've seen others say they took it and it made them feel great immediately. The reactions spam both sides of health--it has made some people hungry, cut the appetite of others. Made some sleepy and kept some awake. Made some skin sag and others their skin cleared up and looked young. That's why I can't give one simple answer. Sorry. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- So how does one know, Renee? Just stick to the 3 drop every 2 hour method?
RE: CSOT - MMS
Thanks, Renee. You did great. I did take it unactivated for a few weeks. Just a couple of drops in water. I didn’t notice anything so I figured I didn’t need it and stopped. But now something has come up I would like to get rid of and so I will give it another go. Thanks again. PT From: gaiac...@gmail.com [mailto:gaiac...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 9:24 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSOT - MMS Even that can have a bad effect on certain people. These people are in the minority, but--simply pay attention to your body. If it's really reacting to MMS then don't take it--or go VERY slow, like one drop, and see what happens. There are those people that push through. Some get better--some don't. No one can say for sure how anyone is going to react. We DO know that chlorine dioxide is poisonous. And too much will make anyone throw up and have diarrhea. Humble claims this is from pathogen die-off, but the chemists say it's from chlorine poisoning. Personally, I think it is poisoning. Would I still use MMS? Yes, and I do. I'm just very careful. Any medicine, whether home made or allopathic, can be bad if taken in too large a dose. Actually, this can be said of anything. So--you just have to take it and know your body. If you are in doubt about whether your reaction is too extreme or normal, then stop taking it. Give your body a rest, then try again. I asked the chemist that uses sodium chlorite (MMS) every day. I asked him why, if it wasn't killing small amounts of pathogens and the body getting better and better--why was a person able to take more and more drops every day? His answer was pretty insightful--he said how many people hack and cough the first couple times they smoke a cigarette, but then eventually their bodies get use to it and they don't cough anymore. A body can adjust, even if something is very bad for it. We are remarkable that way. I guess the best litmus is how do you feel afterwards. Something that helps should make you feel better, and I'm not one of those that think horrid detoxes are good for the body. I think a detox should be slow and comfortable, as much as possible. So if I took MMS and it made me feel terrible, I wouldn't take it again. If I took it, and it made me feel bad, but later I felt a little better, then I'd continue taking it. It's different for each person. I've known list members that have felt like MMS was killing them, but they pushed through and said that all their illnesses fell by the wayside in a few months. I've seen others say they took it and it made them feel great immediately. The reactions spam both sides of health--it has made some people hungry, cut the appetite of others. Made some sleepy and kept some awake. Made some skin sag and others their skin cleared up and looked young. That's why I can't give one simple answer. Sorry. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- So how does one know, Renee? Just stick to the 3 drop every 2 hour method? No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1831 / Virus Database: 2092/4560 - Release Date: 10/18/11
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David and All, MMS can be a life saver... it is certainly far safer than any antibiotic and much more effective for a wider range of pathogens. Sure accidents can happen... and if someone is getting sick on one or two drops of MMS then this is a HERX reaction... something is wrong with the patient, not the medicine. I have used this for over three years for colds and a case of food poisoning... in EVERY instance it has shortened the duration of the illness to 3 days maximum, usually 2, and my food poisoning was gone in less than 18 hours, truly amazing. Bob - Original Message - From: David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 2:41 PM Subject: Re: CSOT - MMS Three injuries I have heard personally, without even looking for them: -A patient went blind in one eye after getting MMS in his eye -2 patients had collapsed veins after an IV MMS treatment using unactivated MMS (sodium chlorite) ~David -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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It definitely does do something. IV and oral MMS have knocked out some tumors. I heard of some cases from a doc. Also a vendor told me she had quite a few anecdotes. It is not really a substance I am interested in, as I think there are more effective things that can be done with that stomach space when doing a complex cancer protocol where you are taxed on how many pills you are willing to swallow in a day. There was an informal survey done on MMS cancer patients doing it orally. The main issue is that people just have a hard time complying with the protocol due to frequent dosing and unpleasantness. That makes it a less favored option for my cancer arsenal, personally. http://www.alternative-cancer-care.com/MMS_Cancer_Study.html David -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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I was on one drop a day with the projectile vomiting, along with wonderful diarrhea. It was too much for me and I won't take it again. I tried 3 times and each time was so ill. It just isn't for me. I have found that Low Dose Naltrexone has been a miracle for me, as has the Iodine Protocol. I will take both forever. There is detox on the Iodine Protocol, but it can be managed much better than that MMS, for me at least. Glowing, Marygrace~ Original Message Subj: Date: 10/18/2011 5:14:05 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time From: _ptf2009@bellsouth.net_ (mailto:ptf2...@bellsouth.net) To: _silver-list@eskimo.com_ (mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com) Sent on: So how does one know, Renee? Just stick to the 3 drop every 2 hour method? Thanks. PT From: gaiac...@gmail.com [mailto:gaiac...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 5:37 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSOT - MMS A person absolutely has to know how to use MMS, and for some people it is never any good. Humbel's continued insistence that it's perfectly safe for everyone is WRONG. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- Additionally, I still have big circles under my eyes, that were not there before. I don't recommend it for anyone. That is just me though. No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - _www.avg.com_ (http://www.avg.com/) Version: 2012.0.1831 / Virus Database: 2092/4559 - Release Date: 10/18/11
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Has anyone noticed that when they use 1 drop of MMS in drinking water that their urine develops a very strong odor? No history of kidney disease but some incidence of post-menopausal UTIs. Thanks. PT
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Same issue here, and I believe it is toxins being filtered out of the kidneys. I drink lots of water when that happens. Also, could be a sign that the body is acidic and needs to be more alkaline. Diane - Original Message - From: needling around To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 9:56 AM Subject: CSOT - MMS Has anyone noticed that when they use 1 drop of MMS in drinking water that their urine develops a very strong odor? No history of kidney disease but some incidence of post-menopausal UTIs. Thanks. PT
