Re: CSOT boron and borax

[Ode Coyote]

 Nor is vitamin A or Aspirin pancakes, but know of a few folx that eat 
rat poison every day to prevent strokes and such.


Ode


At 03:27 PM 9/29/2009 -0400, you wrote:

Borax IS NOT safe to eat
Frank ND

Fuzzmom wrote:

Isn't borax a laundry soap is it safe to eat/

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*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Tuesday, September 29, 2009 3:05 PM
*Subject:* Re: CSOT boron and borax

I use borax to wash my kitchen countertops and floor also in the
laundry as it is a good disinfectant - like chlorine.  Why don't
you just buy the supplement Boron.  There is a liquid supplement
of  silica with boron which i take by jarrows.

Melly

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From: Shirley Reed pj20...@yahoo.com
Subject: CSOT boron and borax
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Tuesday, September 29, 2009, 3:01 PM

   Does anyone know of any negatives regarding the use of
borax as a dietary source of boron???  Have read that just one
joint of the index finger coated with borax and popped into
the mouth will give enough boron to suffice for daily 
needs. Need confirmation as to this information.  tia  pj






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Re: RE: CSOT boron and borax

[Ode Coyote]

,   contains sodium tetraborate decahydrate, anyone know what 
that is?jim



Sep 29, 2009 12:07:17 PM, 
mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com wrote:

I use borax as a source for dietary boron and I know of no negatives.
- Steve N

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Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 12:01 PM
To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSOT boron and borax


Does anyone know of any negatives regarding the use of borax as a
dietary source of boron??? Have read that just one joint of the index
finger coated with borax and popped into the mouth will give enough
boron to suffice for daily needs. Need confirmation as to this
information. tia pj





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Re: CSOT boron and borax

[Ode Coyote]

Boron Overview

Boron is a trace element which has an important influence on both calcium 
and magnesium metabolism. Boron is concentrated in the bone, spleen, and 
thyroid indicating borons functions in bone metabolism and suggesting a 
potential role for boron in hormone metabolism. Boron is thought to be 
useful to increase muscle mass; increase muscle strength; maintain bone 
density; improve calcium absorption; decrease body fat.


According to the USDA, boron is a trace mineral that helps bones develop 
and grow normally. Boron becomes especially important when there is not 
enough vitamin D in the diet. Boron may also prevent arthritis in the elderly.


Research has shown that low boron diets have been associated with reduced 
testosterone levels and boron supplements have been shown to increase serum 
levels of testosterone in postmenopausal women. This finding caused an 
increase in boron supplements targeting athletes and bodybuilders for 
boosting testosterone levels, strength and muscle mass. However, specific 
research on athletes has not yet confirmed this association that boron 
alone will boost testosterone.


Dietary Sources: Dried fruits, nuts, dark green leafy vegetables, 
applesauce, grape juice, and cooked dried beans and peas. Meat and fish are 
poor dietary sources of boron. One mg of boron is found in 1.5 ounces of 
raisins or prunes; 2 ounces of almonds or peanuts; 4 ounces of red wine


Dosage: Daily needs for boron probably fall somewhere around 1 mg.

Side Effects: 1-10 mg per day is considered safe, but caution is warranted 
at higher intake levels as consumption of 50 mg or more may be linked to 
toxicity, loss of appetite, nausea, vomiting, skin rashes, lethargy, and 
diarrhea.


(Source: 
http://www.nal.usda.gov/ttic/tektran/data/09/61/096130.html and 
www.supplementwatch.com)


Research Overview

A review of animal and human research on boron yielded the following 
information which points to a much more comprehensive view of boron.


Deficiency in boron has been shown to contribute to:
1. Abnormal embryo development
2. Decreased sperm count
3. Ovarian deterioration
4. Damage in reproductive function
5. Decrease in electrical activity in the brain
6. Sub optimal mineral metabolism
7. Poor manual dexterity
8. Impaired hand-eye coordination

Boron supplementation was found to:
1. Increase steroid hormone levels (testosterone) and therefore may be of 
interest to athletes

2. Increase bone growth and strength
3. Augment estrogen function and therefore may help prevent atherosclerosis
4. Improve brain function and cognitive functioning
5. Reduce HDL cholesterol
6. Affect thyroid hormone levels
7. Alleviate harmful effects of vitamin D, magnesium, and potassium 
deficiency in postmenopausal bone loss

8. Play a role in the prevention of osteoporosis
9. Be of benefit in the treatment of arthritis
10. Prevents calcium loss in postmenopausal women

Some information about Boron:
1. Dried prunes are a good source of boron
2. The bones of humans using boron supplement are harder to cut
3. Research indicates that areas of the world with highest intake of 
dietary boron have the lowest incidence of arthritis

4. Boron increased life span in animal studies
5. Boron works synergistically with calcium and magnesium
6. Boron balances vitamin D3 deficiency
7. Boron contributes to growth cartilage maturation


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Re: CSOT boron and borax

[Ode Coyote]

http://www.bfr.bund.de/cm/245/addition_of_boric_acid_or_borax_to_food_supplements.pdf

Addition of boric acid or borax to food supplements
BfR Health Assessment No. 006/2006, 16 November 2005
Food supplements are foods containing one or more nutrients like vitamins, 
minerals or trace
elements in concentrated form that are sold as tablets, capsules or coated 
tablets. They are
governed by the valid provisions of the Food and Feed Code (LFBG) and 
Regulation (EC)

No. 178/2002. According to them, foods may not be harmful.
In Germany the addition of the trace element boron as boric acid or borax 
to food supplements
was not permitted up to now. However, this situation could soon change 
since the
laws in the EU Member States are to be approximated and its addition is 
permitted in other
European countries. If this happens, boron could also go on the market in 
Germany as an
ingredient in food supplements. Against this backdrop, the Federal 
Institute for Risk Assessment
(BfR) evaluated the risk to health which boric acid or borax could entail 
in food supplements.




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Re: CSOT boron and borax

[zoe w]

http://www.amazon.com/Bragg-Apple-Vinegar-gallon-liquid/dp/B000OP1W0S/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8s=hpcqid=1254395714sr=8-1

If this link doesn't work   then just go to amazon.com  and do a search 
on Braggs Apple Cider Vinegar.The one I bought is now  13.99 for the 
gallon  and  .99cents  shipping

Can't  beat that.

zoe


Fuzzmom wrote:
Yikes my store is lie 9 per bottle!!! How much is a gallon I imagine 
the shipping is out of this world?


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*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Wednesday, September 30, 2009 6:25 PM
*Subject:* Re: CSOT boron and borax

Amazon.com   sells it by the gallon.

zoe


Roger and Lisa Royal wrote:

Are you in the US?  I buy ACV at the health food store or Kroger,
etc.  for about $4 per 16 oz.  I only use about a tablespoon in
his drinking water--maybe even half of that (1/2 tablespoon) 
Yes, you need the cloudy kind with the mother.


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*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Wednesday, September 30, 2009 12:34 PM
*Subject:* Re: CSOT boron and borax

Oh thank you will get..need about a gallon of it..and i
assume youmean the raw cloudy type? where would I find a
large amount the small bottles are expensive.

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Re: CSOT boron and borax

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

Good point Marshall.  dee

On 30 Sep 2009, at 16:28, Marshall Dudley wrote:

Directly, that is correct. It can kill other things though by  
killing the flora it needs for digestion. I found that out the hard  
way by having it tested on honeybees.


Marshall

Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:

Silver cannot kill anything other than a single celled organism.  dee

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Re: CSOT boron and borax

[Marshall Dudley]

My dad was a pharmacist, and I can recall him mixing up boric acid for 
eye drops many times back in the 50's.  That was it seems standard 
protocol for eye inflammations.


Marshall

Melly Bag wrote:
Thanks for the valuable information Marshall.  I was always afraid of 
boric acid in the eyes.
 
melly





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Re: CSOT boron and borax

[zoe w]

We had two things we used in our eyes when I was growing up.   One was 
Boric Acid,  the other was Witch Hazel.   and yes   This was standard 
protocol.


zoe

Marshall Dudley wrote:
My dad was a pharmacist, and I can recall him mixing up boric acid for 
eye drops many times back in the 50's.  That was it seems standard 
protocol for eye inflammations.


Marshall

Melly Bag wrote:
Thanks for the valuable information Marshall.  I was always afraid of 
boric acid in the eyes.
 
melly







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Re: CSOT boron and borax

[Clayton Family]

yes, that is what I remember too. But the witch hazel was the kind  
without alcohol in it. I am not sure it is still available.


Kathryn

On Oct 1, 2009, at 1:13 PM, zoe w wrote:



We had two things we used in our eyes when I was growing up.   One  
was Boric Acid,  the other was Witch Hazel.   and yes   This was  
standard protocol.


zoe

Marshall Dudley wrote:
My dad was a pharmacist, and I can recall him mixing up boric acid  
for eye drops many times back in the 50's.  That was it seems  
standard protocol for eye inflammations.


Marshall

Melly Bag wrote:
Thanks for the valuable information Marshall.  I was always afraid  
of boric acid in the eyes.

melly






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Re: CSOT boron and borax

[zoe w]

I haven't seen it for years  but Im sure its still around somewhere if 
you know where to look.   Perhaps a feed store.  All i use  now is  
CS  and that seems to be all I need.


zoe

Clayton Family wrote:
yes, that is what I remember too. But the witch hazel was the kind 
without alcohol in it. I am not sure it is still available.


Kathryn

On Oct 1, 2009, at 1:13 PM, zoe w wrote:



We had two things we used in our eyes when I was growing up.   One 
was Boric Acid,  the other was Witch Hazel.   and yes   This was 
standard protocol.


zoe



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Re: CSOT boron and borax{{ eyes ears }}

[ZZekelink]

 
In a message dated 10/1/2009 3:02:46 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
clay...@skypoint.com writes:

Marshall  Dudley wrote:
 My dad was a pharmacist, and I can recall him mixing  up boric acid  
 for eye drops many times back in the  50's.  That was it seems  
 standard protocol for eye  inflammations.

 Marshall



As a child I would get a sty on my eye   the Dr.  would give Mom Boric 
acid to use---I still have the little eye cup we used.. It  was also prescribed 
for me when I got ear infectionsUsed to get boils in my  ears { which 
my Grandmother said was from peeing in the middle of the  road.}  until an 
old farmer told Dad to cut a bit of cork from a horses leg   boil it in a 
small amount of vinegar  put it in my ears morning   night for 3 days...Never 
to this day had another ear infection---  but I  also do not have any wax 
in my ears at all..  Lois

Re: RE: CSOT boron and borax

[Fuzzmom]

It was..pretty much for everything but I didn't think it was still the same...I 
thought it had undergone several changes since..aybe ot? I've also heard it's 
good for fleas? Is it? ive tried Everything..diatomaceous earth works some but 
not very fast and i am allergic to them. A mom dog brought them with her when 
dropped off and now the whole house has! Can you Bathe..diluted in it? And will 
silver..or can silver..help with fleas? Worms..etc? 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Melly Bag 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 7:56 PM
  Subject: Re: RE: CSOT boron and borax


I thought that is the scientific name of boron, isn't it? If you go to 
the 20 Mule website, it states that once  upon a time before FDA rules were in 
place, their product was used for health reasons.

Melly  

--- On Tue, 9/29/09, Acmeair res00...@verizon.net wrote:


  From: Acmeair res00...@verizon.net
  Subject: Re: RE: CSOT boron and borax
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Date: Tuesday, September 29, 2009, 4:38 PM



  we went thru this situation a year or so ago. many supporters of 
using up to the first finger joint for a dose. you have peeked my interest, 
so i checked my 20 mule team Borax natural laundry booster.  a caution,   
contains sodium tetraborate decahydrate, anyone know what that is?
jim


  Sep 29, 2009 12:07:17 PM, silver-list@eskimo.com wrote:

I use borax as a source for dietary boron and I know of no 
negatives.
- Steve N 

-Original Message-
From: Shirley Reed [mailto:pj20...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 12:01 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSOT boron and borax


Does anyone know of any negatives regarding the use of borax as a
dietary source of boron??? Have read that just one joint of the 
index
finger coated with borax and popped into the mouth will give enough
boron to suffice for daily needs. Need confirmation as to this
information. tia pj





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Re: RE: CSOT boron and borax

[Sam L.]

If you sprinkle (flour shifter works) borax on your carpet and let sit
overnight it will kill the fleas, vacuum well the next day and repeat a few
days later.Might need to do this every week or two until you have it under
control. Do not put it on your dogs.

Sam L.

On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 1:48 AM, Fuzzmom fuzzm...@frontier.com wrote:

  It was..pretty much for everything but I didn't think it was still the
 same...I thought it had undergone several changes since..aybe ot? I've also
 heard it's good for fleas? Is it? ive tried Everything..diatomaceous earth
 works some but not very fast and i am allergic to them. A mom dog brought
 them with her when dropped off and now the whole house has! Can you
 Bathe..diluted in it? And will silver..or can silver..help with fleas?
 Worms..etc?

 - Original Message -
 *From:* Melly Bag tita_...@yahoo.com
 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Tuesday, September 29, 2009 7:56 PM
 *Subject:* Re: RE: CSOT boron and borax

   I thought that is the scientific name of boron, isn't it? If you go to
 the 20 Mule website, it states that once  upon a time before FDA rules were
 in place, their product was used for health reasons.

 Melly

 --- On *Tue, 9/29/09, Acmeair res00...@verizon.net* wrote:


 From: Acmeair res00...@verizon.net
 Subject: Re: RE: CSOT boron and borax
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Tuesday, September 29, 2009, 4:38 PM


 we went thru this situation a year or so ago. many supporters of using up
 to the first finger joint for a dose. you have peeked my interest, so i
 checked my 20 mule team Borax natural laundry booster.  a caution,
 contains sodium tetraborate decahydrate, anyone know what that
 is?jim


 Sep 29, 2009 12:07:17 PM, 
 silver-list@eskimo.comhttp://us.mc807.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=silver-l...@eskimo.comwrote:

 I use borax as a source for dietary boron and I know of no negatives.
 - Steve N

 -Original Message-
 From: Shirley Reed 
 [mailto:pj20...@yahoo.comhttp://us.mc807.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=pj20...@yahoo.com]

 Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 12:01 PM
 To: 
 silver-list@eskimo.comhttp://us.mc807.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=silver-l...@eskimo.com
 Subject: CSOT boron and borax


 Does anyone know of any negatives regarding the use of borax as a
 dietary source of boron??? Have read that just one joint of the index
 finger coated with borax and popped into the mouth will give enough
 boron to suffice for daily needs. Need confirmation as to this
 information. tia pj





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Re: CSOT boron and borax

[Fuzzmom]

concentrated drops? Um..where do you get them and what are they? I mean 
what's the difference.
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To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 5:30 PM
Subject: Re: CSOT boron and borax



I use Concentrace drops in the distilled drinking water that
I make myself.

Garnet

Fuzzmom wrote:

then how do you take it as a supplement/
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Borax IS NOT safe to eat
Frank ND

Fuzzmom wrote:

Isn't borax a laundry soap is it safe to eat/

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*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Tuesday, September 29, 2009 3:05 PM
*Subject:* Re: CSOT boron and borax

I use borax to wash my kitchen countertops and floor also in the
laundry as it is a good disinfectant - like chlorine.  Why don't
you just buy the supplement Boron.  There is a liquid supplement
of  silica with boron which i take by jarrows.

Melly

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mailto:pj20...@yahoo.com/* wrote:


From: Shirley Reed pj20...@yahoo.com
Subject: CSOT boron and borax
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Tuesday, September 29, 2009, 3:01 PM

   Does anyone know of any negatives regarding the use of
borax as a dietary source of boron???  Have read that just one
joint of the index finger coated with borax and popped into
the mouth will give enough boron to suffice for daily needs.
Need confirmation as to this information.  tia  pj





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Re: RE: CSOT boron and borax

[Kirsteen Wright]

  I've also heard it's good for fleas? Is it? ive tried
 Everything..diatomaceous earth works some but not very fast and i am
 allergic to them.


I don't know about that but the herb pennyroyal works great for fleas. I
don't think it kills them but they hate it so if you manage to get rid of
them, it keeps them away. We used to regularly get flleas until i discovered
it, as the cats would bring them in. After that, I always spread some dried
pennyroyal on the mattressess under the sheets and this kept the beds free.
I'd also sprinkle some on the floors and then sweep it into the cracks in
the floorboards (we had varnished floors).

I'd then rub the herb over myself and take the cat outside and rub
pennyroyal through it's coat. The cat didn't mind but you could literally
see clouds of fleas leaping off it.

good luck
Kirsteen

Re: CSOT boron and borax

[zoe w]

Borax  does kill the fleas  but not the eggs  which is why you have to 
do it again  in a few days. Twice was all I needed to get permanent 
riddance.


zoe

Kirsteen Wright wrote:


 I've also heard it's good for fleas? Is it? ive tried
Everything..diatomaceous earth works some but not very fast and i
am allergic to them.


I don't know about that but the herb pennyroyal works great for fleas. 
I don't think it kills them but they hate it so if you manage to get 
rid of them, it keeps them away. We used to regularly get flleas until 
i discovered it, as the cats would bring them in. After that, I always 
spread some dried pennyroyal on the mattressess under the sheets and 
this kept the beds free. I'd also sprinkle some on the floors and then 
sweep it into the cracks in the floorboards (we had varnished floors).


I'd then rub the herb over myself and take the cat outside and rub 
pennyroyal through it's coat. The cat didn't mind but you could 
literally see clouds of fleas leaping off it. 


good luck
Kirsteen

Re: RE: CSOT boron and borax

[Tony Moody]

Hi Sam,  

Yes, One can indeed use borax on animals. It is a well reputed cure for 
mange. I used to use it, quite dilute as a soap /  fur conditioner for 
dogs and cats before i heard of the mange treatment.. 

Google 'mange borax' and you get lots of hits. One that i've been to is :
http://www.earthclinic.com/Pets/dog_mange_cure.html

OK,
Tony Moody

On 30 Sep 2009 at 2:15, Sam L. wrote about :
Subject : Re: RE: CSOT boron and borax

 If you sprinkle (flour shifter works) borax on your carpet and let sit
 overnight it will kill the fleas, vacuum well the next day and repeat a
 few days later.Might need to do this every week or two until you have it
 under control. Do not put it on your dogs.
 
 Sam L.
 
 On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 1:48 AM, Fuzzmom fuzzm...@frontier.com wrote:
 
   It was..pretty much for everything but I didn't think it was still the
  same...I thought it had undergone several changes since..aybe ot? I've
  also heard it's good for fleas? Is it? ive tried
  Everything..diatomaceous earth works some but not very fast and i am
  allergic to them. A mom dog brought them with her when dropped off and
  now the whole house has! Can you Bathe..diluted in it? And will
  silver..or can silver..help with fleas? Worms..etc?
 
  - Original Message -
  *From:* Melly Bag tita_...@yahoo.com
  *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
  *Sent:* Tuesday, September 29, 2009 7:56 PM
  *Subject:* Re: RE: CSOT boron and borax
 
I thought that is the scientific name of boron, isn't it? If you go to
  the 20 Mule website, it states that once  upon a time before FDA rules
  were in place, their product was used for health reasons.
 
  Melly
 
  --- On *Tue, 9/29/09, Acmeair res00...@verizon.net* wrote:
 
 
  From: Acmeair res00...@verizon.net
  Subject: Re: RE: CSOT boron and borax
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Date: Tuesday, September 29, 2009, 4:38 PM
 
 
  we went thru this situation a year or so ago. many supporters of using
  up to the first finger joint for a dose. you have peeked my interest,
  so i checked my 20 mule team Borax natural laundry booster.  a
  caution, contains sodium tetraborate decahydrate, anyone know what
  that is?jim
 
 
  Sep 29, 2009 12:07:17 PM,
  silver-list@eskimo.comhttp://us.mc807.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=silv
  er-l...@eskimo.comwrote:
 
  I use borax as a source for dietary boron and I know of no negatives. -
  Steve N
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Shirley Reed
  [mailto:pj20...@yahoo.comhttp://us.mc807.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=p
  j20...@yahoo.com]
 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 12:01 PM
  To:
  silver-list@eskimo.comhttp://us.mc807.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=silv
  er-l...@eskimo.com Subject: CSOT boron and borax
 
 
  Does anyone know of any negatives regarding the use of borax as a
  dietary source of boron??? Have read that just one joint of the index
  finger coated with borax and popped into the mouth will give enough
  boron to suffice for daily needs. Need confirmation as to this
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Re: CSOT boron and borax

[Fuzzmom]

Please tell me how you get permanent riddence I am s allergic I can't sleep 
and the sprays dips etc do nothing. 
  - Original Message - 
  From: zoe w 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 5:27 AM
  Subject: Re: CSOT boron and borax


  Borax  does kill the fleas  but not the eggs  which is why you have to do it 
again  in a few days. Twice was all I needed to get permanent riddance.

  zoe

  Kirsteen Wright wrote: 


   I've also heard it's good for fleas? Is it? ive tried 
Everything..diatomaceous earth works some but not very fast and i am allergic 
to them.

I don't know about that but the herb pennyroyal works great for fleas. I 
don't think it kills them but they hate it so if you manage to get rid of them, 
it keeps them away. We used to regularly get flleas until i discovered it, as 
the cats would bring them in. After that, I always spread some dried pennyroyal 
on the mattressess under the sheets and this kept the beds free. I'd also 
sprinkle some on the floors and then sweep it into the cracks in the 
floorboards (we had varnished floors).

I'd then rub the herb over myself and take the cat outside and rub 
pennyroyal through it's coat. The cat didn't mind but you could literally see 
clouds of fleas leaping off it.  

good luck
Kirsteen







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Re: RE: CSOT boron and borax

[Fuzzmom]

Is pennyroyal ok for cats I heard it could ill thems o I avoided it. I know 
it's ok for dogs..cool where do you get it? 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Kirsteen Wright 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 5:21 AM
  Subject: Re: RE: CSOT boron and borax




 I've also heard it's good for fleas? Is it? ive tried 
Everything..diatomaceous earth works some but not very fast and i am allergic 
to them.

  I don't know about that but the herb pennyroyal works great for fleas. I 
don't think it kills them but they hate it so if you manage to get rid of them, 
it keeps them away. We used to regularly get flleas until i discovered it, as 
the cats would bring them in. After that, I always spread some dried pennyroyal 
on the mattressess under the sheets and this kept the beds free. I'd also 
sprinkle some on the floors and then sweep it into the cracks in the 
floorboards (we had varnished floors).

  I'd then rub the herb over myself and take the cat outside and rub pennyroyal 
through it's coat. The cat didn't mind but you could literally see clouds of 
fleas leaping off it.  

  good luck
  Kirsteen





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Re: CSOT boron and borax

[zoe w]

I just spread the powder on the carpeting  and  dogs bedding   and left 
it there,   Next week did the same thing.Once  the fleas were gone  
I swept it all up.   They never came back.


If you are allergic  then  why not  stay with friends  until this job is 
finished?


zoe

Fuzzmom wrote:
Please tell me how you get permanent riddence I am s allergic I 
can't sleep and the sprays dips etc do nothing.


- Original Message -
*From:* zoe w mailto:mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Wednesday, September 30, 2009 5:27 AM
*Subject:* Re: CSOT boron and borax

Borax  does kill the fleas  but not the eggs  which is why you
have to do it again  in a few days. Twice was all I needed to
get permanent riddance.

zoe

Kirsteen Wright wrote:


 I've also heard it's good for fleas? Is it? ive tried
Everything..diatomaceous earth works some but not very fast
and i am allergic to them.


I don't know about that but the herb pennyroyal works great for
fleas. I don't think it kills them but they hate it so if you
manage to get rid of them, it keeps them away. We used to
regularly get flleas until i discovered it, as the cats would
bring them in. After that, I always spread some dried pennyroyal
on the mattressess under the sheets and this kept the beds free.
I'd also sprinkle some on the floors and then sweep it into the
cracks in the floorboards (we had varnished floors).

I'd then rub the herb over myself and take the cat outside and
rub pennyroyal through it's coat. The cat didn't mind but you
could literally see clouds of fleas leaping off it. 


good luck
Kirsteen





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Re: CSOT boron and borax

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

Silver cannot kill anything other than a single celled organism.  dee

On 30 Sep 2009, at 08:48, Fuzzmom wrote:

It was..pretty much for everything but I didn't think it was still  
the same...I thought it had undergone several changes since..aybe  
ot? I've also heard it's good for fleas? Is it? ive tried  
Everything..diatomaceous earth works some but not very fast and i am  
allergic to them. A mom dog brought them with her when dropped off  
and now the whole house has! Can you Bathe..diluted in it? And will  
silver..or can silver..help with fleas? Worms..etc?

-

Re: CSOT boron and borax

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

They are called Concentrace and are trace minerals.  dee

On 30 Sep 2009, at 09:17, Fuzzmom wrote:

concentrated drops? Um..where do you get them and what are they? I  
mean what's the difference.

- Original Message - From: Garnet gar...@grandecom.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 5:30 PM
Subject: Re: CSOT boron and borax





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Re: RE: CSOT boron and borax

[Kirsteen Wright]

On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Fuzzmom fuzzm...@frontier.com wrote:

  Is pennyroyal ok for cats I heard it could ill thems o I avoided it. I
 know it's ok for dogs..cool where do you get it?


I've never heard that it's bad for cats but, if you've heard that, I would
check it out before using it. I'd hate to be responsible for harming
someone's pet.

I'm in the UK. i originally got it from a friend in Edinburgh who was a
herbalist at the time. I know it can be difficult to get as it can be used
to bring on an abortion. I did manage to get it later on from a local
herbalist. I can't remember which one but it was either Neale's Yard or
Napiers.

Cheers
Kirsteen

Re: CSOT boron and borax

[frankcuns-r...@comcast.net]

Hi List Borax is an industrial chemical which contains boron as well as 
a collection of allowable impurities. If you enjoy eating them, go ahead.

Frank Chemist, ND

Fuzzmom wrote:
Is pennyroyal ok for cats I heard it could ill thems o I avoided it. I 
know it's ok for dogs..cool where do you get it?


- Original Message -
*From:* Kirsteen Wright mailto:kirsteen.falcons...@gmail.com
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Wednesday, September 30, 2009 5:21 AM
*Subject:* Re: RE: CSOT boron and borax


 I've also heard it's good for fleas? Is it? ive tried
Everything..diatomaceous earth works some but not very fast
and i am allergic to them.


I don't know about that but the herb pennyroyal works great for
fleas. I don't think it kills them but they hate it so if you
manage to get rid of them, it keeps them away. We used to
regularly get flleas until i discovered it, as the cats would
bring them in. After that, I always spread some dried pennyroyal
on the mattressess under the sheets and this kept the beds free.
I'd also sprinkle some on the floors and then sweep it into the
cracks in the floorboards (we had varnished floors).

I'd then rub the herb over myself and take the cat outside and rub
pennyroyal through it's coat. The cat didn't mind but you could
literally see clouds of fleas leaping off it. 


good luck
Kirsteen


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Re: RE: CSOT boron and borax

[Melly Bag]

Kirsteen and others,
 
Would you know if this pennyroyal would also work for mites?
 
Thanks.
 
Melly

--- On Wed, 9/30/09, Kirsteen Wright kirsteen.falcons...@gmail.com wrote:


From: Kirsteen Wright kirsteen.falcons...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: RE: CSOT boron and borax
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Wednesday, September 30, 2009, 5:21 AM







 I've also heard it's good for fleas? Is it? ive tried 
Everything..diatomaceous earth works some but not very fast and i am allergic 
to them.

I don't know about that but the herb pennyroyal works great for fleas. I don't 
think it kills them but they hate it so if you manage to get rid of them, it 
keeps them away. We used to regularly get flleas until i discovered it, as the 
cats would bring them in. After that, I always spread some dried pennyroyal on 
the mattressess under the sheets and this kept the beds free. I'd also sprinkle 
some on the floors and then sweep it into the cracks in the floorboards (we had 
varnished floors).

I'd then rub the herb over myself and take the cat outside and rub pennyroyal 
through it's coat. The cat didn't mind but you could literally see clouds of 
fleas leaping off it.  

good luck
Kirsteen

Re: CSOT boron and borax

[Roger and Lisa Royal]

We have suffered with fleas on my dog for the past 2 years.  I have tried all 
the natural remedies I could find like DE and garlic, but nothing worked.  The 
only thing that worked was Comfortis, a probably vile, monthly medication.  
FINALLY,  I read about apple cider vinegar being good for fleas.  I started 
putting a splash in his water (probably a 4 cup water bowl), and he has been 
flea free for several months now.  It has been a god send for us.  He doesn't 
seem to mind the taste either, thank goodness.  I am so happy to spread the 
word about this and hope it helps someone else!
  - Original Message - 
  From: Fuzzmom 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 5:53 AM
  Subject: Re: CSOT boron and borax


  Please tell me how you get permanent riddence I am s allergic I can't 
sleep and the sprays dips etc do nothing. 
- Original Message - 
From: zoe w 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 5:27 AM
Subject: Re: CSOT boron and borax


Borax  does kill the fleas  but not the eggs  which is why you have to do 
it again  in a few days. Twice was all I needed to get permanent riddance.

zoe

Kirsteen Wright wrote: 


 I've also heard it's good for fleas? Is it? ive tried 
Everything..diatomaceous earth works some but not very fast and i am allergic 
to them.

  I don't know about that but the herb pennyroyal works great for fleas. I 
don't think it kills them but they hate it so if you manage to get rid of them, 
it keeps them away. We used to regularly get flleas until i discovered it, as 
the cats would bring them in. After that, I always spread some dried pennyroyal 
on the mattressess under the sheets and this kept the beds free. I'd also 
sprinkle some on the floors and then sweep it into the cracks in the 
floorboards (we had varnished floors).

  I'd then rub the herb over myself and take the cat outside and rub 
pennyroyal through it's coat. The cat didn't mind but you could literally see 
clouds of fleas leaping off it.  

  good luck
  Kirsteen











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RE: CSOT boron and borax

[ransley]

 
Does anyone know of any negatives regarding the use of borax as a dietary
source of boron???  Have read that just one joint of the index finger coated
with borax and popped into the mouth will give enough boron to suffice for
daily needs.  Need confirmation as to this information.  tia  pj

I've done it for a few years now, no negatives particular to the borax and
finger method, except this- I did three different methods to the edge of
excess just to see what would happen. I separately did the finger in the
borax, took a boron supp, and drank a lot of Bragg vinegar (organic apples
are rich in boron). All three, to excess, gave a funny feeling after about
2 weeks. Boron is not something to overdo, a little goes a long way. The
borax method is my favorite. DaddyBob


  




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Re: CSOT boron and borax

[Marshall Dudley]

Directly, that is correct. It can kill other things though by killing 
the flora it needs for digestion. I found that out the hard way by 
having it tested on honeybees.


Marshall

Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:

Silver cannot kill anything other than a single celled organism.  dee

On 30 Sep 2009, at 08:48, Fuzzmom wrote:

It was..pretty much for everything but I didn't think it was still 
the same...I thought it had undergone several changes since..aybe ot? 
I've also heard it's good for fleas? Is it? ive tried 
Everything..diatomaceous earth works some but not very fast and i am 
allergic to them. A mom dog brought them with her when dropped off 
and now the whole house has! Can you Bathe..diluted in it? And will 
silver..or can silver..help with fleas? Worms..etc?


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Re: CSOT boron and borax

[Marshall Dudley]

For those who want an inexpensive finger dip dosage of boron, and are 
wary of any impurities that may be in borax, you can get USP boric acid 
from most pharmacies which is an inexpensive very very pure source of boron.


Marshall

frankcuns-r...@comcast.net wrote:
Hi List Borax is an industrial chemical which contains boron as well 
as a collection of allowable impurities. If you enjoy eating them, go 
ahead.

Frank Chemist, ND

Fuzzmom wrote:
Is pennyroyal ok for cats I heard it could ill thems o I avoided it. 
I know it's ok for dogs..cool where do you get it?


- Original Message -
*From:* Kirsteen Wright mailto:kirsteen.falcons...@gmail.com
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Wednesday, September 30, 2009 5:21 AM
*Subject:* Re: RE: CSOT boron and borax


 I've also heard it's good for fleas? Is it? ive tried
Everything..diatomaceous earth works some but not very fast
and i am allergic to them.


I don't know about that but the herb pennyroyal works great for
fleas. I don't think it kills them but they hate it so if you
manage to get rid of them, it keeps them away. We used to
regularly get flleas until i discovered it, as the cats would
bring them in. After that, I always spread some dried pennyroyal
on the mattressess under the sheets and this kept the beds free.
I'd also sprinkle some on the floors and then sweep it into the
cracks in the floorboards (we had varnished floors).

I'd then rub the herb over myself and take the cat outside and rub
pennyroyal through it's coat. The cat didn't mind but you could
literally see clouds of fleas leaping off it.
good luck
Kirsteen


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Re: CSOT boron and borax

[Clayton Family]

In addition, a boiled, saturated solution of boric acid in water makes  
an effective remedy for pink eye. It used to be the MD's remedy of  
choice in the 50's.  It may also be helpful for other things.


I thought boric acid is much more potent than borax- so less would be  
needed. Somebody could do the math on it.


Kathryn

On Sep 30, 2009, at 10:32 AM, Marshall Dudley wrote:

For those who want an inexpensive finger dip dosage of boron, and  
are wary of any impurities that may be in borax, you can get USP  
boric acid from most pharmacies which is an inexpensive very very  
pure source of boron.


Marshall

frankcuns-r...@comcast.net wrote:
Hi List Borax is an industrial chemical which contains boron as  
well as a collection of allowable impurities. If you enjoy eating  
them, go ahead.

Frank Chemist, ND

Fuzzmom wrote:
Is pennyroyal ok for cats I heard it could ill thems o I avoided  
it. I know it's ok for dogs..cool where do you get it?


   - Original Message -
   *From:* Kirsteen Wright mailto:kirsteen.falcons...@gmail.com
   *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com
   *Sent:* Wednesday, September 30, 2009 5:21 AM
   *Subject:* Re: RE: CSOT boron and borax


I've also heard it's good for fleas? Is it? ive tried
   Everything..diatomaceous earth works some but not very fast
   and i am allergic to them.


   I don't know about that but the herb pennyroyal works great for
   fleas. I don't think it kills them but they hate it so if you
   manage to get rid of them, it keeps them away. We used to
   regularly get flleas until i discovered it, as the cats would
   bring them in. After that, I always spread some dried pennyroyal
   on the mattressess under the sheets and this kept the beds free.
   I'd also sprinkle some on the floors and then sweep it into the
   cracks in the floorboards (we had varnished floors).

   I'd then rub the herb over myself and take the cat outside and  
rub

   pennyroyal through it's coat. The cat didn't mind but you could
   literally see clouds of fleas leaping off it.
   good luck
   Kirsteen


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Re: CSOT boron and borax

[Melly Bag]

Be careful with boric acid for eyes.  They come in different strengths.  My 
grandma had an eye surgery for cataracts and the nurse used a stronger boric 
acid than what doc ordered and she got  blind.  Ask your eye doctor 
what strength  should be used for eyes.
 
Melly

--- On Wed, 9/30/09, Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com wrote:


From: Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com
Subject: Re: CSOT boron and borax
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Wednesday, September 30, 2009, 12:10 PM


In addition, a boiled, saturated solution of boric acid in water makes an 
effective remedy for pink eye. It used to be the MD's remedy of choice in the 
50's.  It may also be helpful for other things.

I thought boric acid is much more potent than borax- so less would be needed. 
Somebody could do the math on it.

Kathryn

Re: CSOT boron and borax

[Fuzzmom]

Oh thank you will get..need about a gallon of it..and i assume youmean the 
raw cloudy type? where would I find a large amount the small bottles are 
expensive. 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Roger and Lisa Royal 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 10:48 AM
  Subject: Re: CSOT boron and borax


  We have suffered with fleas on my dog for the past 2 years.  I have tried all 
the natural remedies I could find like DE and garlic, but nothing worked.  The 
only thing that worked was Comfortis, a probably vile, monthly medication.  
FINALLY,  I read about apple cider vinegar being good for fleas.  I started 
putting a splash in his water (probably a 4 cup water bowl), and he has been 
flea free for several months now.  It has been a god send for us.  He doesn't 
seem to mind the taste either, thank goodness.  I am so happy to spread the 
word about this and hope it helps someone else!
- Original Message - 
From: Fuzzmom 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 5:53 AM
Subject: Re: CSOT boron and borax


Please tell me how you get permanent riddence I am s allergic I can't 
sleep and the sprays dips etc do nothing. 
  - Original Message - 
  From: zoe w 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 5:27 AM
  Subject: Re: CSOT boron and borax


  Borax  does kill the fleas  but not the eggs  which is why you have to do 
it again  in a few days. Twice was all I needed to get permanent riddance.

  zoe

  Kirsteen Wright wrote: 


   I've also heard it's good for fleas? Is it? ive tried 
Everything..diatomaceous earth works some but not very fast and i am allergic 
to them.

I don't know about that but the herb pennyroyal works great for fleas. 
I don't think it kills them but they hate it so if you manage to get rid of 
them, it keeps them away. We used to regularly get flleas until i discovered 
it, as the cats would bring them in. After that, I always spread some dried 
pennyroyal on the mattressess under the sheets and this kept the beds free. I'd 
also sprinkle some on the floors and then sweep it into the cracks in the 
floorboards (we had varnished floors).

I'd then rub the herb over myself and take the cat outside and rub 
pennyroyal through it's coat. The cat didn't mind but you could literally see 
clouds of fleas leaping off it.  

good luck
Kirsteen







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Re: RE: CSOT boron and borax

[Fuzzmom]

ll in all if your friend is a herbalist then I'll tae her word over that of 
someone who just sells a product..a girl at one of those catalog for pets told 
me not to use it but I'll still check it out. 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Kirsteen Wright 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 7:39 AM
  Subject: Re: RE: CSOT boron and borax





  On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Fuzzmom fuzzm...@frontier.com wrote:

Is pennyroyal ok for cats I heard it could ill thems o I avoided it. I know 
it's ok for dogs..cool where do you get it? 

  I've never heard that it's bad for cats but, if you've heard that, I would 
check it out before using it. I'd hate to be responsible for harming someone's 
pet. 

  I'm in the UK. i originally got it from a friend in Edinburgh who was a 
herbalist at the time. I know it can be difficult to get as it can be used to 
bring on an abortion. I did manage to get it later on from a local herbalist. I 
can't remember which one but it was either Neale's Yard or Napiers.

  Cheers
  Kirsteen 





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Re: CSOT boron and borax

[Fuzzmom]

Um..and then who'd watch the dogs? 
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  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 6:58 AM
  Subject: Re: CSOT boron and borax


  I just spread the powder on the carpeting  and  dogs bedding   and left it 
there,   Next week did the same thing.Once  the fleas were gone  I swept it 
all up.   They never came back.

  If you are allergic  then  why not  stay with friends  until this job is 
finished?

  zoe

  Fuzzmom wrote: 
Please tell me how you get permanent riddence I am s allergic I can't 
sleep and the sprays dips etc do nothing. 
  - Original Message - 
  From: zoe w 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 5:27 AM
  Subject: Re: CSOT boron and borax


  Borax  does kill the fleas  but not the eggs  which is why you have to do 
it again  in a few days. Twice was all I needed to get permanent riddance.

  zoe

  Kirsteen Wright wrote: 


   I've also heard it's good for fleas? Is it? ive tried 
Everything..diatomaceous earth works some but not very fast and i am allergic 
to them.

I don't know about that but the herb pennyroyal works great for fleas. 
I don't think it kills them but they hate it so if you manage to get rid of 
them, it keeps them away. We used to regularly get flleas until i discovered 
it, as the cats would bring them in. After that, I always spread some dried 
pennyroyal on the mattressess under the sheets and this kept the beds free. I'd 
also sprinkle some on the floors and then sweep it into the cracks in the 
floorboards (we had varnished floors).

I'd then rub the herb over myself and take the cat outside and rub 
pennyroyal through it's coat. The cat didn't mind but you could literally see 
clouds of fleas leaping off it.  

good luck
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Re: CSOT boron and borax

[zoe w]

Good Point.
Perhaps the ACV is the best solution for you.
zoe


Fuzzmom wrote:

Um..and then who'd watch the dogs?

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Re: RE: CSOT boron and borax

[cking001]

It might...
HHHAAA HoHOhoOhGawd,I'm killing myself

Chuck
NORMAL? That the setting I use on my washing machine...

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 Kirsteen and others,
 
 Would you know if this pennyroyal would also work for mites?
 
 Thanks.
 
 Melly
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Re: CSOT boron and borax

[Garnet]

Concentrace is a brand name. I bought it at the health food 
store. It's a

fairly well known product made from concentrated salt water.

Garnet

Fuzzmom wrote:
concentrated drops? Um..where do you get them and what are they? I mean 
what's the difference.

- Original Message - From: Garnet gar...@grandecom.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 5:30 PM
Subject: Re: CSOT boron and borax



I use Concentrace drops in the distilled drinking water that
I make myself.

Garnet

Fuzzmom wrote:

then how do you take it as a supplement/
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Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 3:27 PM
Subject: Re: CSOT boron and borax



Borax IS NOT safe to eat
Frank ND

Fuzzmom wrote:

Isn't borax a laundry soap is it safe to eat/

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*From:* Melly Bag mailto:tita_...@yahoo.com
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Tuesday, September 29, 2009 3:05 PM
*Subject:* Re: CSOT boron and borax

I use borax to wash my kitchen countertops and floor also in the
laundry as it is a good disinfectant - like chlorine.  Why don't
you just buy the supplement Boron.  There is a liquid supplement
of  silica with boron which i take by jarrows.

Melly

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From: Shirley Reed pj20...@yahoo.com
Subject: CSOT boron and borax
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Tuesday, September 29, 2009, 3:01 PM

   Does anyone know of any negatives regarding the use of
borax as a dietary source of boron???  Have read that just one
joint of the index finger coated with borax and popped into
the mouth will give enough boron to suffice for daily needs.
Need confirmation as to this information.  tia  pj





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Re: CSOT boron and borax

[Garnet]

It's also a lung irritant so try not to breathe it in.

Garnet

Sam L. wrote:
If you sprinkle (flour shifter works) borax on your carpet and let sit 
overnight it will kill the fleas, vacuum well the next day and repeat a 
few days later.
Might need to do this every week or two until you have it under control. 
Do not put it on your dogs. 


Sam L.

On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 1:48 AM, Fuzzmom fuzzm...@frontier.com 
mailto:fuzzm...@frontier.com wrote:


It was..pretty much for everything but I didn't think it was still
the same...I thought it had undergone several changes since..aybe
ot? I've also heard it's good for fleas? Is it? ive tried
Everything..diatomaceous earth works some but not very fast and i am
allergic to them. A mom dog brought them with her when dropped off
and now the whole house has! Can you Bathe..diluted in it? And will
silver..or can silver..help with fleas? Worms..etc?

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*From:* Melly Bag mailto:tita_...@yahoo.com
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Tuesday, September 29, 2009 7:56 PM
*Subject:* Re: RE: CSOT boron and borax

I thought that is the scientific name of boron, isn't it? If you
go to the 20 Mule website, it states that once  upon a time
before FDA rules were in place, their product was used for
health reasons.
 
Melly 


--- On *Tue, 9/29/09, Acmeair /res00...@verizon.net
mailto:res00...@verizon.net/* wrote:


From: Acmeair res00...@verizon.net
mailto:res00...@verizon.net
Subject: Re: RE: CSOT boron and borax
To: silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Tuesday, September 29, 2009, 4:38 PM

 
we went thru this situation a year or so ago. many

supporters of using up to the first finger joint for a
dose. you have peeked my interest, so i checked my 20 mule
team Borax natural laundry booster.  a caution,   contains
sodium tetraborate decahydrate, anyone know what that
is?jim


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I use borax as a source for dietary boron and I know of
no negatives.
- Steve N

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Subject: CSOT boron and borax


Does anyone know of any negatives regarding the use of
borax as a
dietary source of boron??? Have read that just one joint
of the index
finger coated with borax and popped into the mouth will
give enough
boron to suffice for daily needs. Need confirmation as
to this
information. tia pj





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Re: CSOT boron and borax

[Marshall Dudley]

The boric acid I am talking about is pure, a powder. For use in eyes you 
mix it with distilled water. The strength is nothing more than how much 
you dilute it.  According to this site 
http://www.ehow.com/way_5195536_boric-acid-eye-bath-recipe.html :


The adult strength eye wash is made with 1 tsp. of boric acid in 1 cup 
of water 
http://www.ehow.com/way_5195536_boric-acid-eye-bath-recipe.html#. An 
eye wash for children http://www.ehow.com/children/ should contain 1/2 
to 2/3 tsp. boric acid per cup of water.


Buy medicinal grade boric acid powder at a pharmacy or online. Avoid the 
industrial grade powder used in pesticides. Use distilled water to make 
your eye bath so it won't be contaminated with the chemicals and 
pollutants often present in tap water.


Marshall


Melly Bag wrote:
Be careful with boric acid for eyes.  They come in different 
strengths.  My grandma had an eye surgery for cataracts and the nurse 
used a stronger boric acid than what doc ordered and she got  blind.  
Ask your eye doctor what strength  should be used for eyes.
 
Melly


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From: Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com
Subject: Re: CSOT boron and borax
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Wednesday, September 30, 2009, 12:10 PM

In addition, a boiled, saturated solution of boric acid in water
makes an effective remedy for pink eye. It used to be the MD's
remedy of choice in the 50's.  It may also be helpful for other
things.

I thought boric acid is much more potent than borax- so less would
be needed. Somebody could do the math on it.

Kathryn




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Re: CSOT boron and borax

[Fuzzmom]

i'll se if my local store carries it.
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From: Garnet gar...@grandecom.net

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 1:54 PM
Subject: Re: CSOT boron and borax



Concentrace is a brand name. I bought it at the health food
store. It's a
fairly well known product made from concentrated salt water.

Garnet

Fuzzmom wrote:

concentrated drops? Um..where do you get them and what are they? I mean
what's the difference.
- Original Message - From: Garnet gar...@grandecom.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 5:30 PM
Subject: Re: CSOT boron and borax



I use Concentrace drops in the distilled drinking water that
I make myself.

Garnet

Fuzzmom wrote:

then how do you take it as a supplement/
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To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 3:27 PM
Subject: Re: CSOT boron and borax



Borax IS NOT safe to eat
Frank ND

Fuzzmom wrote:

Isn't borax a laundry soap is it safe to eat/

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*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Tuesday, September 29, 2009 3:05 PM
*Subject:* Re: CSOT boron and borax

I use borax to wash my kitchen countertops and floor also in the
laundry as it is a good disinfectant - like chlorine.  Why don't
you just buy the supplement Boron.  There is a liquid supplement
of  silica with boron which i take by jarrows.

Melly

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mailto:pj20...@yahoo.com/* wrote:


From: Shirley Reed pj20...@yahoo.com
Subject: CSOT boron and borax
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Tuesday, September 29, 2009, 3:01 PM

   Does anyone know of any negatives regarding the use of
borax as a dietary source of boron???  Have read that just 
one

joint of the index finger coated with borax and popped into
the mouth will give enough boron to suffice for daily needs.
Need confirmation as to this information.  tia  pj





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Re: CSOT boron and borax

[Clayton Family]

yes it is from the Great Salt Lake in Utah.

It is fairly high inbromines, and I don't do well with it, maybe for  
that reason; but others seem to like it just fine...



On Sep 30, 2009, at 12:54 PM, Garnet wrote:

Concentrace is a brand name. I bought it at the health food store.  
It's a

fairly well known product made from concentrated salt water.

Garnet

Fuzzmom wrote:
concentrated drops? Um..where do you get them and what are they? I  
mean what's the difference.

- Original Message - From: Garnet gar...@grandecom.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 5:30 PM
Subject: Re: CSOT boron and borax

I use Concentrace drops in the distilled drinking water that
I make myself.

Garnet

Fuzzmom wrote:

then how do you take it as a supplement/
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frankcuns-r...@comcast.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 3:27 PM
Subject: Re: CSOT boron and borax



Borax IS NOT safe to eat
Frank ND

Fuzzmom wrote:

Isn't borax a laundry soap is it safe to eat/

   - Original Message -
   *From:* Melly Bag mailto:tita_...@yahoo.com
   *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com
   *Sent:* Tuesday, September 29, 2009 3:05 PM
   *Subject:* Re: CSOT boron and borax

   I use borax to wash my kitchen countertops and floor also in  
the
   laundry as it is a good disinfectant - like chlorine.  Why  
don't
   you just buy the supplement Boron.  There is a liquid  
supplement

   of  silica with boron which i take by jarrows.

   Melly

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   mailto:pj20...@yahoo.com/* wrote:


   From: Shirley Reed pj20...@yahoo.com
   Subject: CSOT boron and borax
   To: silver-list@eskimo.com
   Date: Tuesday, September 29, 2009, 3:01 PM

  Does anyone know of any negatives regarding the use of
   borax as a dietary source of boron???  Have read that  
just one
   joint of the index finger coated with borax and popped  
into
   the mouth will give enough boron to suffice for daily  
needs.

   Need confirmation as to this information.  tia  pj





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Re: CSOT boron and borax

[Garnet]

She may have been referring to the essential oil of Penny 
Royal which

is a lot more concentrated than rubbing on the plant.

Garnet

Fuzzmom wrote:
ll in all if your friend is a herbalist then I'll tae her word over that 
of someone who just sells a product..a girl at one of those catalog for 
pets told me not to use it but I'll still check it out.


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On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Fuzzmom fuzzm...@frontier.com
mailto:fuzzm...@frontier.com wrote:

Is pennyroyal ok for cats I heard it could ill thems o I avoided
it. I know it's ok for dogs..cool where do you get it? 



I've never heard that it's bad for cats but, if you've heard that, I
would check it out before using it. I'd hate to be responsible for
harming someone's pet.

I'm in the UK. i originally got it from a friend in Edinburgh who
was a herbalist at the time. I know it can be difficult to get as it
can be used to bring on an abortion. I did manage to get it later on
from a local herbalist. I can't remember which one but it was either
Neale's Yard or Napiers.

Cheers
Kirsteen




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Re: CSOT boron and borax

[Fuzzmom]

It was in a deodorant stick sort of.
- Original Message - 
From: Garnet gar...@grandecom.net

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 3:09 PM
Subject: Re: CSOT boron and borax



She may have been referring to the essential oil of Penny
Royal which
is a lot more concentrated than rubbing on the plant.

Garnet

Fuzzmom wrote:

ll in all if your friend is a herbalist then I'll tae her word over that
of someone who just sells a product..a girl at one of those catalog for
pets told me not to use it but I'll still check it out.

- Original Message -
*From:* Kirsteen Wright mailto:kirsteen.falcons...@gmail.com
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Wednesday, September 30, 2009 7:39 AM
*Subject:* Re: RE: CSOT boron and borax



On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Fuzzmom fuzzm...@frontier.com
mailto:fuzzm...@frontier.com wrote:

Is pennyroyal ok for cats I heard it could ill thems o I avoided
it. I know it's ok for dogs..cool where do you get it?


I've never heard that it's bad for cats but, if you've heard that, I
would check it out before using it. I'd hate to be responsible for
harming someone's pet.

I'm in the UK. i originally got it from a friend in Edinburgh who
was a herbalist at the time. I know it can be difficult to get as it
can be used to bring on an abortion. I did manage to get it later on
from a local herbalist. I can't remember which one but it was either
Neale's Yard or Napiers.

Cheers
Kirsteen




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Re: CSOT boron and borax

[Roger and Lisa Royal]

Are you in the US?  I buy ACV at the health food store or Kroger, etc.  for 
about $4 per 16 oz.  I only use about a tablespoon in his drinking water--maybe 
even half of that (1/2 tablespoon)  Yes, you need the cloudy kind with the 
mother.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Fuzzmom 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 12:34 PM
  Subject: Re: CSOT boron and borax


  Oh thank you will get..need about a gallon of it..and i assume youmean 
the raw cloudy type? where would I find a large amount the small bottles are 
expensive. 
- Original Message - 
From: Roger and Lisa Royal 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 10:48 AM
Subject: Re: CSOT boron and borax


We have suffered with fleas on my dog for the past 2 years.  I have tried 
all the natural remedies I could find like DE and garlic, but nothing worked.  
The only thing that worked was Comfortis, a probably vile, monthly medication.  
FINALLY,  I read about apple cider vinegar being good for fleas.  I started 
putting a splash in his water (probably a 4 cup water bowl), and he has been 
flea free for several months now.  It has been a god send for us.  He doesn't 
seem to mind the taste either, thank goodness.  I am so happy to spread the 
word about this and hope it helps someone else!
  - Original Message - 
  From: Fuzzmom 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 5:53 AM
  Subject: Re: CSOT boron and borax


  Please tell me how you get permanent riddence I am s allergic I can't 
sleep and the sprays dips etc do nothing. 
- Original Message - 
From: zoe w 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 5:27 AM
Subject: Re: CSOT boron and borax


Borax  does kill the fleas  but not the eggs  which is why you have to 
do it again  in a few days. Twice was all I needed to get permanent 
riddance.

zoe

Kirsteen Wright wrote: 


 I've also heard it's good for fleas? Is it? ive tried 
Everything..diatomaceous earth works some but not very fast and i am allergic 
to them.

  I don't know about that but the herb pennyroyal works great for 
fleas. I don't think it kills them but they hate it so if you manage to get rid 
of them, it keeps them away. We used to regularly get flleas until i discovered 
it, as the cats would bring them in. After that, I always spread some dried 
pennyroyal on the mattressess under the sheets and this kept the beds free. I'd 
also sprinkle some on the floors and then sweep it into the cracks in the 
floorboards (we had varnished floors).

  I'd then rub the herb over myself and take the cat outside and rub 
pennyroyal through it's coat. The cat didn't mind but you could literally see 
clouds of fleas leaping off it.  

  good luck
  Kirsteen











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Re: CSOT boron and borax

[zoe w]

Amazon.com   sells it by the gallon.

zoe


Roger and Lisa Royal wrote:
Are you in the US?  I buy ACV at the health food store or Kroger, 
etc.  for about $4 per 16 oz.  I only use about a tablespoon in his 
drinking water--maybe even half of that (1/2 tablespoon)  Yes, you 
need the cloudy kind with the mother.


- Original Message -
*From:* Fuzzmom mailto:fuzzm...@frontier.com
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Wednesday, September 30, 2009 12:34 PM
*Subject:* Re: CSOT boron and borax

Oh thank you will get..need about a gallon of it..and i assume
youmean the raw cloudy type? where would I find a large amount the
small bottles are expensive.

-

Re: CSOT boron and borax Chuck

[ZZekelink]

 
In a message dated 9/29/2009 6:24:54 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
cking...@nycap.rr.com writes:

Chuck
No moving parts! I'm so sorry.  :-)

Re: CSOT boron and borax ( fleas )

[ZZekelink]

 
In a message dated 9/30/2009 3:49:31 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
fuzzm...@frontier.com writes:

I've  also heard it's good for fleas? Is it?


I have read that it works, also as an ant  other creepys barrier when  put 
in a 2 line around the outside of your house...Haven't tried  it.

Re: CSOT boron and borax

[Melly Bag]

Thanks for the valuable information Marshall.  I was always afraid of boric 
acid in the eyes.
 
melly

--- On Wed, 9/30/09, Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com wrote:


From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com
Subject: Re: CSOT boron and borax
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Wednesday, September 30, 2009, 1:56 PM


The boric acid I am talking about is pure, a powder. For use in eyes you mix it 
with distilled water. The strength is nothing more than how much you dilute 
it.  According to this site 
http://www.ehow.com/way_5195536_boric-acid-eye-bath-recipe.html :

The adult strength eye wash is made with 1 tsp. of boric acid in 1 cup of 
water http://www.ehow.com/way_5195536_boric-acid-eye-bath-recipe.html#. An 
eye wash for children http://www.ehow.com/children/ should contain 1/2 to 2/3 
tsp. boric acid per cup of water.

Buy medicinal grade boric acid powder at a pharmacy or online. Avoid the 
industrial grade powder used in pesticides. Use distilled water to make your 
eye bath so it won't be contaminated with the chemicals and pollutants often 
present in tap water.

Marshall


Melly Bag wrote:
 Be careful with boric acid for eyes.  They come in different strengths.  My 
 grandma had an eye surgery for cataracts and the nurse used a stronger boric 
 acid than what doc ordered and she got  blind.  Ask your eye doctor what 
 strength  should be used for eyes.
  Melly
 
 --- On *Wed, 9/30/09, Clayton Family /clay...@skypoint.com/* wrote:
 
 
     From: Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com
     Subject: Re: CSOT boron and borax
     To: silver-list@eskimo.com
     Date: Wednesday, September 30, 2009, 12:10 PM
 
     In addition, a boiled, saturated solution of boric acid in water
     makes an effective remedy for pink eye. It used to be the MD's
     remedy of choice in the 50's.  It may also be helpful for other
     things.
 
     I thought boric acid is much more potent than borax- so less would
     be needed. Somebody could do the math on it.
 
     Kathryn
 


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Re: CSOT boron and borax

[Fuzzmom]

Yikes my store is lie 9 per bottle!!! How much is a gallon I imagine the 
shipping is out of this world? 
  - Original Message - 
  From: zoe w 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 6:25 PM
  Subject: Re: CSOT boron and borax


  Amazon.com   sells it by the gallon.

  zoe


  Roger and Lisa Royal wrote: 
Are you in the US?  I buy ACV at the health food store or Kroger, etc.  for 
about $4 per 16 oz.  I only use about a tablespoon in his drinking water--maybe 
even half of that (1/2 tablespoon)  Yes, you need the cloudy kind with the 
mother.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Fuzzmom 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 12:34 PM
  Subject: Re: CSOT boron and borax


  Oh thank you will get..need about a gallon of it..and i assume 
youmean the raw cloudy type? where would I find a large amount the small 
bottles are expensive. 
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CSOT boron and borax

[Shirley Reed]

   Does anyone know of any negatives regarding the use of borax as a dietary 
source of boron???  Have read that just one joint of the index finger coated 
with borax and popped into the mouth will give enough boron to suffice for 
daily needs.  Need confirmation as to this information.  tia  pj


  


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RE: CSOT boron and borax

[Norton, Steve]

I use borax as a source for dietary boron and I know of no negatives.
 - Steve N 

-Original Message-
From: Shirley Reed [mailto:pj20...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 12:01 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSOT boron and borax


   Does anyone know of any negatives regarding the use of borax as a
dietary source of boron???  Have read that just one joint of the index
finger coated with borax and popped into the mouth will give enough
boron to suffice for daily needs.  Need confirmation as to this
information.  tia  pj


  


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Re: CSOT boron and borax

[Melly Bag]

I use borax to wash my kitchen countertops and floor also in the laundry as it 
is a good disinfectant - like chlorine.  Why don't you just buy the supplement 
Boron.  There is a liquid supplement of  silica with boron which i take by 
jarrows. 
 
Melly

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From: Shirley Reed pj20...@yahoo.com
Subject: CSOT boron and borax
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Tuesday, September 29, 2009, 3:01 PM


   Does anyone know of any negatives regarding the use of borax as a dietary 
source of boron???  Have read that just one joint of the index finger coated 
with borax and popped into the mouth will give enough boron to suffice for 
daily needs.  Need confirmation as to this information.  tia  pj


      


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Re: CSOT boron and borax

[Fuzzmom]

Isn't borax a laundry soap is it safe to eat/ 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Melly Bag 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 3:05 PM
  Subject: Re: CSOT boron and borax


I use borax to wash my kitchen countertops and floor also in the 
laundry as it is a good disinfectant - like chlorine.  Why don't you just buy 
the supplement Boron.  There is a liquid supplement of  silica with boron which 
i take by jarrows. 

Melly

--- On Tue, 9/29/09, Shirley Reed pj20...@yahoo.com wrote:


  From: Shirley Reed pj20...@yahoo.com
  Subject: CSOT boron and borax
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Date: Tuesday, September 29, 2009, 3:01 PM


 Does anyone know of any negatives regarding the use of borax as a 
dietary source of boron???  Have read that just one joint of the index finger 
coated with borax and popped into the mouth will give enough boron to suffice 
for daily needs.  Need confirmation as to this information.  tia  pj





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Re: CSOT boron and borax

[frankcuns-r...@comcast.net]

Borax IS NOT safe to eat
Frank ND

Fuzzmom wrote:

Isn't borax a laundry soap is it safe to eat/

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*From:* Melly Bag mailto:tita_...@yahoo.com
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Tuesday, September 29, 2009 3:05 PM
*Subject:* Re: CSOT boron and borax

I use borax to wash my kitchen countertops and floor also in the
laundry as it is a good disinfectant - like chlorine.  Why don't
you just buy the supplement Boron.  There is a liquid supplement
of  silica with boron which i take by jarrows.
 
Melly


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mailto:pj20...@yahoo.com/* wrote:


From: Shirley Reed pj20...@yahoo.com
Subject: CSOT boron and borax
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Tuesday, September 29, 2009, 3:01 PM

   Does anyone know of any negatives regarding the use of
borax as a dietary source of boron???  Have read that just one
joint of the index finger coated with borax and popped into
the mouth will give enough boron to suffice for daily needs. 
Need confirmation as to this information.  tia  pj



 



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Re: RE: CSOT boron and borax

[Acmeair]

we went thru this situation a year or so ago. many supporters of using "up to the first finger joint" for a dose. you have peeked my interest, so i checked my "20 mule team Borax" natural laundry booster. a caution, "contains sodium tetraborate decahydrate", anyone know what that is? jimSep 29, 2009 12:07:17 PM, silver-list@eskimo.com wrote:
I use borax as a source for dietary boron and I know of no negatives.- Steve N -Original Message-From: Shirley Reed [mailto:pj20...@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 12:01 PMTo: silver-list@eskimo.comSubject: CSOT boron and boraxDoes anyone know of any negatives regarding the use of borax as adietary source of boron??? Have read that just one joint of the indexfinger coated with borax and popped into the mouth will give enoughboron to suffice for daily needs. Need confirmation as to thisinformation. tia pj--The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver.Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.orgTo post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.comAddress Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.comThe Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down...List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com


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RE: RE: CSOT boron and borax

[Norton, Steve]

The chemical name for borax.
 - Steve N



From: Acmeair [mailto:res00...@verizon.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 1:38 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: RE: CSOT boron and borax


 
we went thru this situation a year or so ago. many supporters of using
up to the first finger joint for a dose. you have peeked my interest,
so i checked my 20 mule team Borax natural laundry booster.  a
caution,   contains sodium tetraborate decahydrate, anyone know what
that is?jim

Re: CSOT boron and borax

[Garnet]

http://fscimage.fishersci.com/msds/21010.htm

Material Safety Data Sheet
Sodium tetraborate decahydrate

LD50/LC50:
CAS# 1303-96-4:
 Oral, mouse: LD50 = 2 gm/kg;
 Oral, rat: LD50 = 2660 mg/kg;

LD 50,  or the Lethal Dose 50, is the dose it takes to kill 
half of the animals used, generally rats and mice,

because of the close correlation to human toxicity.

Looks like it takes a lot to kill a rat or a mouse, 2 gm per 
Kg body weight, which would be aapx 140 gms for
a person. Not that I am advocating ingestion mind you, just 
pointing out that what is on the end or your
finger is many orders of magnitude lower than 140 gms, 
probably in the range of 1.4 mg.


Garnet

Acmeair wrote:
 
we went thru this situation a year or so ago. many supporters of using 
up to the first finger joint for a dose. you have peeked my interest, 
so i checked my 20 mule team Borax natural laundry booster.  a 
caution,   contains sodium tetraborate decahydrate, anyone know what 
that is?jim



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mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com wrote:


I use borax as a source for dietary boron and I know of no negatives.
- Steve N

-Original Message-
From: Shirley Reed [mailto:pj20...@yahoo.com
mailto:pj20...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 12:01 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSOT boron and borax


Does anyone know of any negatives regarding the use of borax as a
dietary source of boron??? Have read that just one joint of the index
finger coated with borax and popped into the mouth will give enough
boron to suffice for daily needs. Need confirmation as to this
information. tia pj





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Re: CSOT boron and borax

[Fuzzmom]

then how do you take it as a supplement/
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To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 3:27 PM
Subject: Re: CSOT boron and borax



Borax IS NOT safe to eat
Frank ND

Fuzzmom wrote:

Isn't borax a laundry soap is it safe to eat/

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*From:* Melly Bag mailto:tita_...@yahoo.com
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Tuesday, September 29, 2009 3:05 PM
*Subject:* Re: CSOT boron and borax

I use borax to wash my kitchen countertops and floor also in the
laundry as it is a good disinfectant - like chlorine.  Why don't
you just buy the supplement Boron.  There is a liquid supplement
of  silica with boron which i take by jarrows.

Melly

--- On *Tue, 9/29/09, Shirley Reed /pj20...@yahoo.com
mailto:pj20...@yahoo.com/* wrote:


From: Shirley Reed pj20...@yahoo.com
Subject: CSOT boron and borax
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Tuesday, September 29, 2009, 3:01 PM

   Does anyone know of any negatives regarding the use of
borax as a dietary source of boron???  Have read that just one
joint of the index finger coated with borax and popped into
the mouth will give enough boron to suffice for daily needs.
Need confirmation as to this information.  tia  pj





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Re: CSOT boron and borax

[Donna]

Borax, also known as sodium borate, sodium tetraborate, or disodium 
tetraborate, is an important boron compound, a mineral, and a salt of 
boric .

Borax !!!
Donna ACS

 
we went thru this situation a year or so ago. many supporters of using 
up to the first finger joint for a dose. you have peeked my 
interest, so i checked my 20 mule team Borax natural laundry 
booster.  a caution,   contains sodium tetraborate decahydrate, 
anyone know what that is?jim



Sep 29, 2009 12:07:17 PM, silver-list@eskimo.com 
mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com wrote:


I use borax as a source for dietary boron and I know of no negatives.
- Steve N

-Original Message-
From: Shirley Reed [mailto:pj20...@yahoo.com
mailto:pj20...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 12:01 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSOT boron and borax


Does anyone know of any negatives regarding the use of borax as a
dietary source of boron??? Have read that just one joint of the index
finger coated with borax and popped into the mouth will give enough
boron to suffice for daily needs. Need confirmation as to this
information. tia pj





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Re: CSOT boron and borax

[frankcuns-r...@comcast.net]

Hi list Boron is a micro mineral needed by the body in very small 
amounts (micro grams a day) we get a bit from the diet. Eating borax 
will bring four atoms of boron per molecule of tetra borate or borax. 
Additionally borax is an industrial chemical which carries a lot of 
impurities.

Frank ND, chemist
Acmeair wrote:
 
we went thru this situation a year or so ago. many supporters of using 
up to the first finger joint for a dose. you have peeked my 
interest, so i checked my 20 mule team Borax natural laundry 
booster.  a caution,   contains sodium tetraborate decahydrate, 
anyone know what that is?jim



Sep 29, 2009 12:07:17 PM, silver-list@eskimo.com 
mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com wrote:


I use borax as a source for dietary boron and I know of no negatives.
- Steve N

-Original Message-
From: Shirley Reed [mailto:pj20...@yahoo.com
mailto:pj20...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 12:01 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSOT boron and borax


Does anyone know of any negatives regarding the use of borax as a
dietary source of boron??? Have read that just one joint of the index
finger coated with borax and popped into the mouth will give enough
boron to suffice for daily needs. Need confirmation as to this
information. tia pj





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Re: CSOT boron and borax

[Garnet]

I use Concentrace drops in the distilled drinking water that 
I make myself.


Garnet

Fuzzmom wrote:

then how do you take it as a supplement/
- Original Message - From: frankcuns-r...@comcast.net 
frankcuns-r...@comcast.net

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 3:27 PM
Subject: Re: CSOT boron and borax



Borax IS NOT safe to eat
Frank ND

Fuzzmom wrote:

Isn't borax a laundry soap is it safe to eat/

- Original Message -
*From:* Melly Bag mailto:tita_...@yahoo.com
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Tuesday, September 29, 2009 3:05 PM
*Subject:* Re: CSOT boron and borax

I use borax to wash my kitchen countertops and floor also in the
laundry as it is a good disinfectant - like chlorine.  Why don't
you just buy the supplement Boron.  There is a liquid supplement
of  silica with boron which i take by jarrows.

Melly

--- On *Tue, 9/29/09, Shirley Reed /pj20...@yahoo.com
mailto:pj20...@yahoo.com/* wrote:


From: Shirley Reed pj20...@yahoo.com
Subject: CSOT boron and borax
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Tuesday, September 29, 2009, 3:01 PM

   Does anyone know of any negatives regarding the use of
borax as a dietary source of boron???  Have read that just one
joint of the index finger coated with borax and popped into
the mouth will give enough boron to suffice for daily needs.
Need confirmation as to this information.  tia  pj





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Re: CSOT boron and borax

[Marshall Dudley]

It is a compound of sodium, boron, oxygen and the OH radical.  
Specifically it is Na2B4O7·10H2O. Although in small dosages it can 
supply needed boron, in large dosages it is toxic, as is any compound 
containing boron.  It has an LD-50 of around 2 gram per KG for rodents.  
Thus a 200 pound person would have a likely limit of around 200 grams or 
about 6 ounces.


Marshall

Acmeair wrote:
 
we went thru this situation a year or so ago. many supporters of using 
up to the first finger joint for a dose. you have peeked my 
interest, so i checked my 20 mule team Borax natural laundry 
booster.  a caution,   contains sodium tetraborate decahydrate, 
anyone know what that is?jim



Sep 29, 2009 12:07:17 PM, silver-list@eskimo.com 
mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com wrote:


I use borax as a source for dietary boron and I know of no negatives.
- Steve N

-Original Message-
From: Shirley Reed [mailto:pj20...@yahoo.com
mailto:pj20...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 12:01 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSOT boron and borax


Does anyone know of any negatives regarding the use of borax as a
dietary source of boron??? Have read that just one joint of the index
finger coated with borax and popped into the mouth will give enough
boron to suffice for daily needs. Need confirmation as to this
information. tia pj





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Re: CSOT boron and borax

[cking001]

Warnings have to accompany this kind of suggestion.
DaddyBob, our leader, used what stuck to a wet finger to get his good
result.
High imprudent dosages could be dangerous...

Chuck
No moving parts!


On 9/29/2009 3:10:22 PM, Fuzzmom (fuzzm...@frontier.com) wrote:
 Isn't borax a laundry soap is it safe to eat/
 - Original Message -
 From: Melly Bag [link: mailto:tita_...@yahoo.com]
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 3:05 PM
 Subject: Re: CSOT boron and borax
 
 
 I use borax to wash my kitchen countertops and floor also in the laundry as 
 it is a good disinfectant - like chlorine. Why don't
 you just buy the supplement Boron. There is a liquid supplement of silica
 with boron which i take by jarrows.
 
 Melly
 
 --- On Tue, 9/29/09, Shirley Reed pj20...@yahoo.com [link:
 mailto:pj20...@yahoo.com] wrote:
 
 
 From: Shirley Reed pj20...@yahoo.com
 Subject: CSOT boron and borax
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Tuesday, September 29, 2009, 3:01 PM
 
 Does anyone know of any negatives regarding the use of borax as a dietary
 source of boron??? Have read that just one joint of the index finger
 coated with borax and popped into the mouth will give enough boron to
 suffice for daily needs. Need confirmation as to this information. tia pj
 
 
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Re: Re: CSOT boron and borax

[Acmeair]

hey peoples, we are safe. borax - borax borax or sodium tetraborate decahydrate, jimSep 29, 2009 02:50:47 PM, silver-list@eskimo.com wrote:
It is a compound of sodium, boron, oxygen and the OH radical. Specifically it is Na2B4O7·10H2O. Although in small dosages it can supply needed boron, in large dosages it is toxic, as is any compound containing boron. It has an LD-50 of around 2 gram per KG for rodents. Thus a 200 pound person would have a likely limit of around 200 grams or about 6 ounces.MarshallAcmeair wrote:  we went thru this situation a year or so ago. many supporters of using  "up to the first finger joint" for a dose. you have peeked my  interest, so i checked my "20 mule team Borax" natural laundry  booster. a caution, "contains sodium tetraborate decahydrate",  anyone know what that is? jim Sep 29, 2009 12:07:17 PM, silver-list@eskimo.com  <mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com wrote: I use borax as a source for dietary boron and I know of no negatives. - Steve N -Original Message- From: Shirley Reed [mailto:pj20...@yahoo.com <mailto:pj20...@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 12:01 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com <mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSOT boron and borax Does anyone know of any negatives regarding the use of borax as a dietary source of boron??? Have read that just one joint of the index finger coated with borax and popped into the mouth will give enough boron to suffice for daily needs. Need confirmation as to this information. tia pj -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com <mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com <mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com <mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal  Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at:  http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to:  silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to:  silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List  archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour 


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Re: RE: CSOT boron and borax

[Melly Bag]

I thought that is the scientific name of boron, isn't it? If you go to the 20 
Mule website, it states that once  upon a time before FDA rules were in place, 
their product was used for health reasons.
 
Melly  

--- On Tue, 9/29/09, Acmeair res00...@verizon.net wrote:


From: Acmeair res00...@verizon.net
Subject: Re: RE: CSOT boron and borax
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Tuesday, September 29, 2009, 4:38 PM



 
we went thru this situation a year or so ago. many supporters of using up to 
the first finger joint for a dose. you have peeked my interest, so i checked 
my 20 mule team Borax natural laundry booster.  a caution,   contains sodium 
tetraborate decahydrate, anyone know what that 
is?    jim


Sep 29, 2009 12:07:17 PM, silver-list@eskimo.com wrote:

I use borax as a source for dietary boron and I know of no negatives.
- Steve N 

-Original Message-
From: Shirley Reed [mailto:pj20...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 12:01 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSOT boron and borax


Does anyone know of any negatives regarding the use of borax as a
dietary source of boron??? Have read that just one joint of the index
finger coated with borax and popped into the mouth will give enough
boron to suffice for daily needs. Need confirmation as to this
information. tia pj





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RE: CSOT boron and borax

[Melly Bag]

Just be careful of overdose. When you get boron overdose, mainstream docs 
misdiagnose it as something linked to auto immune disease.
 
Melly

--- On Tue, 9/29/09, Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.com wrote:


From: Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.com
Subject: RE: CSOT boron and borax
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Tuesday, September 29, 2009, 3:05 PM


I use borax as a source for dietary boron and I know of no negatives.
- Steve N 

-Original Message-
From: Shirley Reed [mailto:pj20...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 12:01 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSOT boron and borax


   Does anyone know of any negatives regarding the use of borax as a
dietary source of boron???  Have read that just one joint of the index
finger coated with borax and popped into the mouth will give enough
boron to suffice for daily needs.  Need confirmation as to this
information.  tia  pj


      


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Re: CSOT boron and borax

[dingyung49]

mountainroseherbs.com sell one does not contain surfactants/detergents.  May be 
safer to take small amount internately?  I use borox dilute with water to wash 
hair and did not irriate my eyes/face etc.    My hair grows quite healthy.  
Helen
--- On Tue, 9/29/09, frankcuns-r...@comcast.net frankcuns-r...@comcast.net 
wrote:


From: frankcuns-r...@comcast.net frankcuns-r...@comcast.net
Subject: Re: CSOT boron and borax
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Tuesday, September 29, 2009, 2:21 PM


Hi list Boron is a micro mineral needed by the body in very small amounts 
(micro grams a day) we get a bit from the diet. Eating borax will bring four 
atoms of boron per molecule of tetra borate or borax. Additionally borax is an 
industrial chemical which carries a lot of impurities.
Frank ND, chemist
Acmeair wrote:
  we went thru this situation a year or so ago. many supporters of using up 
to the first finger joint for a dose. you have peeked my interest, so i 
checked my 20 mule team Borax natural laundry booster.  a 
caution,   contains sodium tetraborate decahydrate, anyone know what that 
is?                            jim
 
 
 Sep 29, 2009 12:07:17 PM, silver-list@eskimo.com 
 mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com wrote:
 
     I use borax as a source for dietary boron and I know of no negatives.
     - Steve N
 
     -Original Message-
     From: Shirley Reed [mailto:pj20...@yahoo.com
     mailto:pj20...@yahoo.com]
     Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 12:01 PM
     To: silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com
     Subject: CSOT boron and borax
 
 
     Does anyone know of any negatives regarding the use of borax as a
     dietary source of boron??? Have read that just one joint of the index
     finger coated with borax and popped into the mouth will give enough
     boron to suffice for daily needs. Need confirmation as to this
     information. tia pj
 
 
 
 
 
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