Re: CSonline discussion with Barrett on Friday, Jan. 25, at 1 p.m. ET.

2002-01-28 Thread Malcolm Stebbins
Hi;  glass is where the world ends, right?  All else is illusion (thass TV to
us human fish.)  I believe I have the book you mentioned, or one like it, on the
shelf about 75 miles north of here.  Haven't read it all, but his argument for
vaccination leads to violent behavior patterns seemed to have some good research
behind it.  I didn't poke further, too many things on my plate at the time.
But in a similar vein of free-floating paranoia, what do you suppose was in the
chemtrails, and could it possibly have had something to do with the yapping
dog response we got to 9/11;  I know we're all supposed to be dumb twits in a
crowd anyway, but I was seriously amazed(not only at the speedy orchestration of
our politco-militaristic machine) by how politally correct mindless hatred has
become.  I'm still waiting - and preparing - for the other shoe to drop.
Malcolm

James Osbourne, Holmes wrote:

 Thank You.

 Assuming your research is valid, have confirmed my intuition.

 So much of what we think is our culture is this paid-for manipulation of
 our information and deeply held beliefs.
 How do you explain glass to a goldfish?

 Another good example is Militia Watchdog.  Run by an alleged History PhD
 who is clever at eliciting argument about factual trivia to lead people away
 from the big lie issues underlying everything.   A quite benign but
 fact-filled site that I ran for a while was listed as a potential terrorist
 site.  It was laughable, but many people probable took it seriously.

 Do you have data you can share privately regarding his connections?
 I have placed the acsh.org link into my Disinformation folder.  Yes,
 Virginia, vaccines are really safe
 Have you seen Dr. Richard Moskowitz's book on childhood vaccinations?

 James-Osbourne: Holmes

 -Original Message-
 From: Catherine Creel [mailto:ccr...@maine.rr.com]
 Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 3:15 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSonline discussion with Barrett on Friday, Jan. 25, at 1 p.m.
 ET.

 Hi James,

   You said:

 A couple of years ago I tried to have a friendly dialogue with him re: CS.
 Not possible.  I presumed thereafter a high probability that he is a  paid
 disinformation agent.  I understand that Dr. Hulda Clark et al are suing him
 for all of the false statements that he has published about her.   I hope
 they nail him.

He is a serious threat to alt med.  He is involved in a number
 of lawsuits, some of which he has won, some he's lost, and some
 still pending.

   He is backed by the chemical and pharmaceutical industries.
 This private not-for-profit is a front for his work.

 www.acsh.org

Those who don't take him seriously have no idea the depth
 of his connections.

 Regards,
 Catherine

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RE: CSonline discussion with Barrett on Friday, Jan. 25, at 1 p.m. ET.

2002-01-28 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
Hi Cathrine,

The chemtrails have been recently mentioned is a Senate or House bill.  Most
I have heard indicates weather modification.
From documents I have heard read but not been able to identify or acquire,
the US was merged into the UN in the 1970s.  The Secretary of State is the
administrator of the UN directives, and has the power to replace the United
States government with appointees.

The doo-doo is deep and all pervasive.

The war is first one of minds, and they have won that one.  The
highest-level rulers are more genetically modified to be less human than the
masses.  This gives them some greater powers, and lessens their humanity.
All of this is degrees of probability, not fact.  In my 66 years of trying
to understand who I am and what I am doing here, that theory---with some
variations in the scenario---seems at present to be the most likely.

David Icke's book The Biggest Secret contains a lot of data supporting that
thesis, as do many other less publicized.

We live in a goldfish bowl of culture'; a virtual Disneyland where
everything that we hold to be the fundamental ground of science and history
is only vague partial truths and outright lies that conceal a very long term
conquest and occupation by non-terran entities operating both in third
dimension and in other more subtle densities.  They stopped acting as gods
at about the time of the decline of the great Egyptian empire and went
literally and figuratively underground.  The one's in charge are pretty
nasty.  There are some white-hat guys too, but with limited resources.  They
all have a self-serving agenda.  The Old Testament word  Elohim,
translated commonly as God.  Is, in the original, plural.  Their goal is
very ambitious; create enough chaos to seize control from the original
creators of this reality.

For exposition of these ideas see www.trufax.org and look for Handbook  For
The New Paradigm, et seq.  There is also much useful
medical/health/nutrition data there.  Not for the faint hearted or those who
think,  Oh they wouldn't do that.

Another good source for more fast-breaking info:  www.rense.com.

At the root of our enslavement is the lie that individual consciousness
winks out with the loss of the body.  How comforting that would be if it
were true.

Just follow the white rabbit...

James-Osbourne: Holmes

-Original Message-
From: Malcolm Stebbins [mailto:s...@asis.com]
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 5:43 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSonline discussion with Barrett on Friday, Jan. 25, at 1 p.m.
ET.

Hi;  glass is where the world ends, right?  All else is illusion (thass TV
to
us human fish.)  I believe I have the book you mentioned, or one like it, on
the
shelf about 75 miles north of here.  Haven't read it all, but his argument
for
vaccination leads to violent behavior patterns seemed to have some good
research
behind it.  I didn't poke further, too many things on my plate at the time.
But in a similar vein of free-floating paranoia, what do you suppose was in
the
chemtrails, and could it possibly have had something to do with the
yapping
dog response we got to 9/11;  I know we're all supposed to be dumb twits in
a
crowd anyway, but I was seriously amazed(not only at the speedy
orchestration of
our politco-militaristic machine) by how politally correct mindless hatred
has
become.  I'm still waiting - and preparing - for the other shoe to drop.
Malcolm

James Osbourne, Holmes wrote:

 Thank You.

 Assuming your research is valid, have confirmed my intuition.

 So much of what we think is our culture is this paid-for manipulation of
 our information and deeply held beliefs.
 How do you explain glass to a goldfish?

 Another good example is Militia Watchdog.  Run by an alleged History PhD
 who is clever at eliciting argument about factual trivia to lead people
away
 from the big lie issues underlying everything.   A quite benign but
 fact-filled site that I ran for a while was listed as a potential
terrorist
 site.  It was laughable, but many people probable took it seriously.

 Do you have data you can share privately regarding his connections?
 I have placed the acsh.org link into my Disinformation folder.  Yes,
 Virginia, vaccines are really safe
 Have you seen Dr. Richard Moskowitz's book on childhood vaccinations?

 James-Osbourne: Holmes

 -Original Message-
 From: Catherine Creel [mailto:ccr...@maine.rr.com]
 Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 3:15 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSonline discussion with Barrett on Friday, Jan. 25, at 1
p.m.
 ET.

 Hi James,

   You said:

 A couple of years ago I tried to have a friendly dialogue with him re:
CS.
 Not possible.  I presumed thereafter a high probability that he is a  paid
 disinformation agent.  I understand that Dr. Hulda Clark et al are suing
him
 for all of the false statements that he has published about her.   I hope
 they nail him.

He is a serious threat to alt med.  He is involved in a number
 of lawsuits, 

Re: CSonline discussion with Barrett on Friday, Jan. 25, at 1 p.m. ET.

2002-01-28 Thread Harsha Godavari
Hi James Osborne:
Could not find the book ! The items listed before
and after that are available. Would you happen to have a copy of this book?

Regards
Harsha Godavari

James Osbourne, Holmes wrote:

 Hi Cathrine,

 For exposition of these ideas see www.trufax.org and look for Handbook  For
 The New Paradigm, et seq.  There is also much useful


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RE: CSonline discussion with Barrett on Friday, Jan. 25, at 1 p.m. ET.

2002-01-28 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
http://www.trufax.org/w18.html#handbook

James-Osbourne: Holmes

-Original Message-
From: Harsha Godavari [mailto:h.godav...@home.com]
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 12:37 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSonline discussion with Barrett on Friday, Jan. 25, at 1 p.m.
ET.

Hi James Osborne:
Could not find the book ! The items listed
before
and after that are available. Would you happen to have a copy of this book?

Regards
Harsha Godavari

James Osbourne, Holmes wrote:

 Hi Cathrine,

 For exposition of these ideas see www.trufax.org and look for Handbook
For
 The New Paradigm, et seq.  There is also much useful


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Re: CSonline discussion with Barrett on Friday, Jan. 25, at 1 p.m. ET.

2002-01-28 Thread Harsha Godavari
Thanks for the URL.

Regards
Harsha Godavari

James Osbourne, Holmes wrote:

 http://www.trufax.org/w18.html#handbook

 James-Osbourne: Holmes

 -Original Message-
 From: Harsha Godavari [mailto:h.godav...@home.com]
 Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 12:37 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSonline discussion with Barrett on Friday, Jan. 25, at 1 p.m.
 ET.

 Hi James Osborne:
 Could not find the book ! The items listed
 before
 and after that are available. Would you happen to have a copy of this book?

 Regards
 Harsha Godavari

 James Osbourne, Holmes wrote:

  Hi Cathrine,
 
  For exposition of these ideas see www.trufax.org and look for Handbook
 For
  The New Paradigm, et seq.  There is also much useful

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RE: CSonline discussion with Barrett on Friday, Jan. 25, at 1 p.m. ET.

2002-01-28 Thread TJ Garland


Sorry--www.sumeria.net


From: TJ Garland goldenok...@hotmail.com
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSonline discussion with Barrett on Friday, Jan. 25, at 1 
p.m. ET.

Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 17:48:49 -0500


Also- www.sumerian.net


From: James Osbourne, Holmes a...@cybermesa.comfirmed my





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RE: CSonline discussion with Barrett on Friday, Jan. 25, at 1 p.m. ET.

2002-01-27 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
Thank You.

Assuming your research is valid, have confirmed my intuition.

So much of what we think is our culture is this paid-for manipulation of
our information and deeply held beliefs.
How do you explain glass to a goldfish?

Another good example is Militia Watchdog.  Run by an alleged History PhD
who is clever at eliciting argument about factual trivia to lead people away
from the big lie issues underlying everything.   A quite benign but
fact-filled site that I ran for a while was listed as a potential terrorist
site.  It was laughable, but many people probable took it seriously.

Do you have data you can share privately regarding his connections?
I have placed the acsh.org link into my Disinformation folder.  Yes,
Virginia, vaccines are really safe
Have you seen Dr. Richard Moskowitz's book on childhood vaccinations?

James-Osbourne: Holmes

-Original Message-
From: Catherine Creel [mailto:ccr...@maine.rr.com]
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 3:15 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSonline discussion with Barrett on Friday, Jan. 25, at 1 p.m.
ET.

Hi James,


  You said:

A couple of years ago I tried to have a friendly dialogue with him re: CS.
Not possible.  I presumed thereafter a high probability that he is a  paid
disinformation agent.  I understand that Dr. Hulda Clark et al are suing him
for all of the false statements that he has published about her.   I hope
they nail him.


   He is a serious threat to alt med.  He is involved in a number
of lawsuits, some of which he has won, some he's lost, and some
still pending.

  He is backed by the chemical and pharmaceutical industries.
This private not-for-profit is a front for his work.

www.acsh.org


   Those who don't take him seriously have no idea the depth
of his connections.

Regards,
Catherine



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RE: CSonline discussion with Barrett on Friday, Jan. 25, at 1 p.m. ET.

2002-01-27 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
Maybe, on an old machine seldom used.  I'll when I get a chance.

James-Osbourne: Holmes

-Original Message-
From: Leo Regehr [mailto:leoel...@telusplanet.net]
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 8:39 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSonline discussion with Barrett on Friday, Jan. 25, at 1 p.m.
ET.

Does anyone have copies of their communications with Barrett still on their
drives? If so, please let me know.
Leo
  _

James Osbourne, Holmes wrote:
A couple of years ago I tried to have a friendly dialogue with him re: CS.
Not possible.  I presumed thereafter a high probability that he is a  paid
disinformation agent.  I understand that Dr. Hulda Clark et al are suing him
for all of the false statements that he has published about her.   I hope
they nail him.
James-Osbourne: Holmes
-Original Message-
From: Catherine Creel [ mailto:ccr...@maine.rr.com]
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 8:06 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSonline discussion with Barrett on Friday, Jan. 25, at 1 p.m.
ET.
James said:
He is a dip.
  I agree, James, but I think you're being too kind :-) I wish we had
free access to him with questions. Unfortunately, questions are
being filtered.
Catherine
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Re: CSonline discussion with Barrett on Friday, Jan. 25, at 1 p.m. ET.

2002-01-26 Thread DJG
I had to format my pc and have the specifics somewhere stored on CD.
However, here is one good article. Connect the dots. It's not hard to figure
out. Who sponsors the big TV/Cable networks in large part? Ever see the
purple pill commercials? Hmm, no influence there. How about all the asthma
advertisements?  Arththritis.Celebrex? Giving negative news about my
sponsors wouldn't be good for my bottom line would it? I know I'd be a
little miffed if I spent millions of dollars to promote my product, only to
see I'm paying for news reports that cut me to shreds. Wouldn't you be?
  There's not much to discuss here. It's simple economics.

- Original Message -
From: Russ Rosser russros...@rovin.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 2:24 AM
Subject: Re: CSonline discussion with Barrett on Friday, Jan. 25, at 1 p.m.
ET.


 Please elaborate on the nature of this connection!.  Tx.  --Russ


   Do some research and you'll find the same ones that control the drug
  industry are the same ones that run the media. They're all in bed
 together.



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RE: CSonline discussion with Barrett on Friday, Jan. 25, at 1 p.m. ET.

2002-01-26 Thread Bob Bartell
Hi Lew,
That we did!  And her circle of protection continues to grow!  There are
different kinds of terrorism, aren't there?  Those sponsored by
government bureaucrats and stooges like Barrett being the worst and most
immoral!  Namaste  Bob Bartell

-Original Message-
From: FHLew [mailto:klini...@tm.net.my] 
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 11:56 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSonline discussion with Barrett on Friday, Jan. 25, at 1
p.m. ET.

Greetings

  When they confined the dear lady, Dr.Hulda Clark, we
raised
hell didn't we? At least I did .I lost all
past postings because of viral corruption. It is always
an experience to re-read what one has written in the past.

With regards
Lew

- Original Message -
From: James Osbourne, Holmes a...@cybermesa.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 4:39 AM
Subject: RE: CSonline discussion with Barrett on Friday, Jan. 25, at 1
p.m.
ET.


 A couple of years ago I tried to have a friendly dialogue with him re:
CS.
 Not possible.  I presumed thereafter a high probability that he is a
paid
 disinformation agent.  I understand that Dr. Hulda Clark et al are
suing
him
 for all of the false statements that he has published about her.   I
hope
 they nail him.

 James-Osbourne: Holmes

 -Original Message-
 From: Catherine Creel [mailto:ccr...@maine.rr.com]
 Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 8:06 AM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSonline discussion with Barrett on Friday, Jan. 25, at
1
p.m.
 ET.

 James said:

 He is a dip.

   I agree, James, but I think you're being too kind :-) I wish we had
 free access to him with questions. Unfortunately, questions are
 being filtered.

 Catherine


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CSonline discussion with Barrett on Friday, Jan. 25, at 1 p.m. ET.

2002-01-25 Thread Catherine Creel
I thought some of you might be interested in this.  Unfortunately, I think
questions he doesn't like will never make it to the public---Catherine

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/community/DailyNews/Community_Index.html#chat


   Fighting Medical Fraud
For 30 years, Dr. Stephen Barrett has been monitoring alternative therapies,
cataloguing what he says are bogus treatments. How can health consumers
distinguish fact from fallacy? Join Barrett in a live chat Friday at 1 p.m.
ET.  Send in a question!



Quiz a Quackbuster
Dr. Stephen Barrett on Health Fraud



Dr. Stephen Barrett
More than 1 million Americans are diagnosed with cancer every year and
studies suggest that many of them explore alternative therapies. But do the
treatments actually work?
I wish the word 'alternative' would go away. It's quack cancer therapy,
says consumer advocate Dr. Stephen Barrett, founder of Quackwatch.com, a
nonprofit organization designed to protect consumers from health-related
scams.

Most people think that quackery is easy to spot, says Barrett. Often it
is not. Its promoters wear the cloak of science. They use scientific terms
and quote - or misquote - scientific references.

How can health consumers distinguish fact from fallacy?

Watch Primetime Thursday, Jan. 24, at 10 p.m. ET and join our online
discussion with Barrett on Friday, Jan. 25, at 1 p.m. ET.

Barrett, a retired psychiatrist, is vice president of the National Council
Against Health Fraud and a scientific adviser to the American Council on
Science and Health. In 1984, he received an FDA Commissioner's Special
Citation Award for Public Service in fighting nutrition quackery. He has
written 49 books on health fraud.





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Re: CSonline discussion with Barrett on Friday, Jan. 25, at 1 p.m. ET.

2002-01-25 Thread Catherine Creel
James said:

He is a dip.

  I agree, James, but I think you're being too kind :-) I wish we had 
free access to him with questions. Unfortunately, questions are 
being filtered.

Catherine


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RE: CSonline discussion with Barrett on Friday, Jan. 25, at 1 p.m. ET.

2002-01-25 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
He is a dip.

James-Osbourne: Holmes

-Original Message-
From: Catherine Creel [mailto:ccr...@maine.rr.com]
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 1:44 AM
To: cancerc...@yahoogroups.com
Subject: CSonline discussion with Barrett on Friday, Jan. 25, at 1 p.m. ET.

I thought some of you might be interested in this.  Unfortunately, I think
questions he doesn't like will never make it to the public---Catherine

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/community/DailyNews/Community_Index.html#chat


   Fighting Medical Fraud
For 30 years, Dr. Stephen Barrett has been monitoring alternative therapies,
cataloguing what he says are bogus treatments. How can health consumers
distinguish fact from fallacy? Join Barrett in a live chat Friday at 1 p.m.
ET.  Send in a question!



Quiz a Quackbuster
Dr. Stephen Barrett on Health Fraud



Dr. Stephen Barrett
More than 1 million Americans are diagnosed with cancer every year and
studies suggest that many of them explore alternative therapies. But do the
treatments actually work?
I wish the word 'alternative' would go away. It's quack cancer therapy,
says consumer advocate Dr. Stephen Barrett, founder of Quackwatch.com, a
nonprofit organization designed to protect consumers from health-related
scams.

Most people think that quackery is easy to spot, says Barrett. Often it
is not. Its promoters wear the cloak of science. They use scientific terms
and quote - or misquote - scientific references.

How can health consumers distinguish fact from fallacy?

Watch Primetime Thursday, Jan. 24, at 10 p.m. ET and join our online
discussion with Barrett on Friday, Jan. 25, at 1 p.m. ET.

Barrett, a retired psychiatrist, is vice president of the National Council
Against Health Fraud and a scientific adviser to the American Council on
Science and Health. In 1984, he received an FDA Commissioner's Special
Citation Award for Public Service in fighting nutrition quackery. He has
written 49 books on health fraud.





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Re: CSonline discussion with Barrett on Friday, Jan. 25, at 1 p.m. ET.

2002-01-25 Thread Marshall Dudley
Would that work?  It seems to me that the ozone would be much quicker to
react with the paper than anthrax spores.

Marshall

Tel Tofflemire wrote:

 They can not have it both ways !  Here on ABC News they explore
 zapping Anthrax Mail with Ozone, But last night they reported Ozone is
 not effective in treating cancerJimmy a Break !
 http://abcnews.go.com/sections/scitech/CuttingEdge/cuttingedge020125.html

 Tel Tofflemire
 Phoenix, AZ

 Catherine Creel wrote:

 I thought some of you might be interested in this.  Unfortunately, I
 think
 questions he doesn't like will never make it to the
 public---Catherine

 http://abcnews.go.
 om/sections/community/DailyNews/Community_Index.html#chat

Fighting Medical Fraud
 For 30 years, Dr. Stephen Barrett has been monitoring alternative
 therapies,
 cataloguing what he says are bogus treatments. How can health
 consumers
 distinguish fact from fallacy? Join Barrett in a live chat Friday at
 1 p.m.
 ET.  Send in a question!

 Quiz a Quackbuster
 Dr. Stephen Barrett on Health Fraud

 Dr. Stephen Barrett
 More than 1 million Americans are diagnosed with cancer every year
 and
 studies suggest that many of them explore alternative therapies. But
 do the
 treatments actually work?
 I wish the word 'alternative' would go away. It's quack cancer
 therapy,
 says consumer advocate Dr. Stephen Barrett, founder of
 Quackwatch.com, a
 nonprofit organization designed to protect consumers from
 health-related
 scams.

 Most people think that quackery is easy to spot, says Barrett.
 Often it
 is not. Its promoters wear the cloak of science. They use scientific
 terms
 and quote - or misquote - scientific references.

 How can health consumers distinguish fact from fallacy?

 Watch Primetime Thursday, Jan. 24, at 10 p.m. ET and join our online

 discussion with Barrett on Friday, Jan. 25, at 1 p.m. ET.

 Barrett, a retired psychiatrist, is vice president of the National
 Council
 Against Health Fraud and a scientific adviser to the American
 Council on
 Science and Health. In 1984, he received an FDA Commissioner's
 Special
 Citation Award for Public Service in fighting nutrition quackery. He
 has
 written 49 books on health fraud.

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Re: CSonline discussion with Barrett on Friday, Jan. 25, at 1 p.m. ET.

2002-01-25 Thread Catherine Creel
Hi Tel,


  You said:

They can not have it both ways !  Here on ABC News they explore 
zapping Anthrax Mail with Ozone, But last night they reported Ozone is 
not effective in treating cancerJimmy a Break !


Their reason for satying this is because researchers never tried 
ozone in humans.  In vitro it tells them it creates enough free radicals 
to kill a person, so they won't try it.

  However, that being said, because ozone kills one thing, does not mean 
it kills another - any more than one antibiotic is right for everything.

  If ozone worked on cancer all the time, no one would die.
The fact is, in some people, ozone keeps cancer at bay.  
In others, it does nothing. 

 This is why I don't see ABC as being inconsistent.

  Regards,
Catherine


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Re: CSonline discussion with Barrett on Friday, Jan. 25, at 1 p.m. ET.

2002-01-25 Thread Tel Tofflemire
They can not have it both ways !  Here on ABC News they explore zapping Anthrax
Mail with Ozone, But last night they reported Ozone is not effective in treating
cancerJimmy a Break !
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/scitech/CuttingEdge/cuttingedge020125.html
Tel Tofflemire
Phoenix, AZ

Catherine Creel wrote:

 I thought some of you might be interested in this.  Unfortunately, I think
 questions he doesn't like will never make it to the public---Catherine

 http://abcnews.go.com/sections/community/DailyNews/Community_Index.html#chat

Fighting Medical Fraud
 For 30 years, Dr. Stephen Barrett has been monitoring alternative therapies,
 cataloguing what he says are bogus treatments. How can health consumers
 distinguish fact from fallacy? Join Barrett in a live chat Friday at 1 p.m.
 ET.  Send in a question!

 Quiz a Quackbuster
 Dr. Stephen Barrett on Health Fraud

 Dr. Stephen Barrett
 More than 1 million Americans are diagnosed with cancer every year and
 studies suggest that many of them explore alternative therapies. But do the
 treatments actually work?
 I wish the word 'alternative' would go away. It's quack cancer therapy,
 says consumer advocate Dr. Stephen Barrett, founder of Quackwatch.com, a
 nonprofit organization designed to protect consumers from health-related
 scams.

 Most people think that quackery is easy to spot, says Barrett. Often it
 is not. Its promoters wear the cloak of science. They use scientific terms
 and quote - or misquote - scientific references.

 How can health consumers distinguish fact from fallacy?

 Watch Primetime Thursday, Jan. 24, at 10 p.m. ET and join our online
 discussion with Barrett on Friday, Jan. 25, at 1 p.m. ET.

 Barrett, a retired psychiatrist, is vice president of the National Council
 Against Health Fraud and a scientific adviser to the American Council on
 Science and Health. In 1984, he received an FDA Commissioner's Special
 Citation Award for Public Service in fighting nutrition quackery. He has
 written 49 books on health fraud.

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Re: CSonline discussion with Barrett on Friday, Jan. 25, at 1 p.m. ET.

2002-01-25 Thread Tel Tofflemire
Ozone works very well in my home I have 4 Ozone air purifiers
I learned this yeas ago when I had a basement prone to mold , mildew,
crickets, ozone cured the problem. Motels use ozone to clean a smoky, or
stinky motel room and have for years.  Car restore co's use Ozone to clean a
smell from a crashed car, including where a victim was killed and remained
in the auto for a long time.  Ozone is used sterilize medical waste, medical
instruments and equipment..  But they have done little or no testing with
Ozone on humansmy suspicion, They make much more  on the drugs they
own the patent on(just my take on this)
Tel Tofflemire
Phoenix, AZ

Catherine Creel wrote:

 Hi Tel,

   You said:

 They can not have it both ways !  Here on ABC News they explore
 zapping Anthrax Mail with Ozone, But last night they reported Ozone is
 not effective in treating cancerJimmy a Break !

 Their reason for satying this is because researchers never tried
 ozone in humans.  In vitro it tells them it creates enough free radicals
 to kill a person, so they won't try it.

   However, that being said, because ozone kills one thing, does not mean
 it kills another - any more than one antibiotic is right for everything.

   If ozone worked on cancer all the time, no one would die.
 The fact is, in some people, ozone keeps cancer at bay.
 In others, it does nothing.

  This is why I don't see ABC as being inconsistent.

   Regards,
 Catherine

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Re: CSonline discussion with Barrett on Friday, Jan. 25, at 1 p.m. ET.

2002-01-25 Thread Maxine Wilton
If questions are being filteres and some not answered, why is the discussion
even being conducted???
 What good will it be
 It must be evident that this person is obcessed with being against
Alternative medicine?
 What Drug Co's does he have a stake in or why  is he so against
Alternatives.
 The discussion should include  another person, not of his   mind against
the purpose of the discussion.
   Fair,   HUMBUG?

-Original Message-
From: Catherine Creel ccr...@maine.rr.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Friday, January 25, 2002 7:15 AM
Subject: Re: CSonline discussion with Barrett on Friday, Jan. 25, at 1 p.m.
ET.


James said:

He is a dip.

  I agree, James, but I think you're being too kind :-) I wish we had
free access to him with questions. Unfortunately, questions are
being filtered.

Catherine


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RE: CSonline discussion with Barrett on Friday, Jan. 25, at 1 p.m. ET.

2002-01-25 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
A couple of years ago I tried to have a friendly dialogue with him re: CS.
Not possible.  I presumed thereafter a high probability that he is a  paid
disinformation agent.  I understand that Dr. Hulda Clark et al are suing him
for all of the false statements that he has published about her.   I hope
they nail him.

James-Osbourne: Holmes

-Original Message-
From: Catherine Creel [mailto:ccr...@maine.rr.com]
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 8:06 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSonline discussion with Barrett on Friday, Jan. 25, at 1 p.m.
ET.

James said:

He is a dip.

  I agree, James, but I think you're being too kind :-) I wish we had
free access to him with questions. Unfortunately, questions are
being filtered.

Catherine


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Re: CSonline discussion with Barrett on Friday, Jan. 25, at 1 p.m. ET.

2002-01-25 Thread Catherine Creel
Hi James,


  You said:

A couple of years ago I tried to have a friendly dialogue with him re: CS.
Not possible.  I presumed thereafter a high probability that he is a  paid
disinformation agent.  I understand that Dr. Hulda Clark et al are suing him
for all of the false statements that he has published about her.   I hope
they nail him.


   He is a serious threat to alt med.  He is involved in a number
of lawsuits, some of which he has won, some he's lost, and some
still pending.

  He is backed by the chemical and pharmaceutical industries.
This private not-for-profit is a front for his work.

www.acsh.org


   Those who don't take him seriously have no idea the depth
of his connections.

Regards,
Catherine



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Re: CSonline discussion with Barrett on Friday, Jan. 25, at 1 p.m. ET.

2002-01-25 Thread DJG
I wish I knew about this earlier. I have a whole list of questions for Mr.
Barrett. Quack cancer treatments? The quacks are the standard treatments.
How would he explain my brother-in-law's CEA going from 77 to 47 using
quack alternatives? Stage IV colorectal adenocarcinoma, terminal. Still
here, never in the hospital, refused all standard treatments. How can this
be? If his $#%%! doctor bothered to read his biweekly blood work, his anemia
would not have gotten out of control. After basically throwing it in his
face, he had no choice but to admit something is definitely working.
  My mother-in-law on the other hand has Stage III ductal carcinoma breast
cancer, followed all the rules, had mammograms, took HRT.recently had a
mascectomy, on chemo. It will not work. She's been in the hospital twice
with complications, and dismisses the use of any unproven methods, despite
the dismal success rate of chemo. Her doctors said her diet doesn't matter
(just eat rightgood advice, yes?), and taking supplements is a waste,
but didn't forbid her.
  Sorry for the rant, this is a touchy subject for me.

- Original Message -
From: Catherine Creel ccr...@maine.rr.com
To: cancerc...@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 3:44 AM
Subject: CSonline discussion with Barrett on Friday, Jan. 25, at 1 p.m. ET.


 I thought some of you might be interested in this.  Unfortunately, I think
 questions he doesn't like will never make it to the public---Catherine


http://abcnews.go.com/sections/community/DailyNews/Community_Index.html#chat


Fighting Medical Fraud
 For 30 years, Dr. Stephen Barrett has been monitoring alternative
therapies,
 cataloguing what he says are bogus treatments. How can health consumers
 distinguish fact from fallacy? Join Barrett in a live chat Friday at 1
p.m.
 ET.  Send in a question!



 Quiz a Quackbuster
 Dr. Stephen Barrett on Health Fraud



 Dr. Stephen Barrett
 More than 1 million Americans are diagnosed with cancer every year and
 studies suggest that many of them explore alternative therapies. But do
the
 treatments actually work?
 I wish the word 'alternative' would go away. It's quack cancer therapy,
 says consumer advocate Dr. Stephen Barrett, founder of Quackwatch.com, a
 nonprofit organization designed to protect consumers from health-related
 scams.

 Most people think that quackery is easy to spot, says Barrett. Often it
 is not. Its promoters wear the cloak of science. They use scientific terms
 and quote - or misquote - scientific references.

 How can health consumers distinguish fact from fallacy?

 Watch Primetime Thursday, Jan. 24, at 10 p.m. ET and join our online
 discussion with Barrett on Friday, Jan. 25, at 1 p.m. ET.

 Barrett, a retired psychiatrist, is vice president of the National Council
 Against Health Fraud and a scientific adviser to the American Council on
 Science and Health. In 1984, he received an FDA Commissioner's Special
 Citation Award for Public Service in fighting nutrition quackery. He has
 written 49 books on health fraud.





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Re: CSonline discussion with Barrett on Friday, Jan. 25, at 1 p.m. ET.

2002-01-25 Thread DJG
It is by design these national news media blitz's plant doubts. My friend
is a doctor in Florida with a ozone generator. He has used it to cure a
litter of puppies with parvo, and his cousin (my friend as well) used it.
Done properly, it is perfectly safe. Another friend, a retired bio-physicist
in Texas, has much experience with Ozone and IV H2O2. He also was treating
cancer patients for years with Koch's SSR ( www.williamfkoch.com ),
illegally nonetheless.  No, ozone doesn't work in each case, but why is it
that ozone is commonly used in Europefor decades, yet the medical
nimrods in the U.S. refuse to recognize it? It is not mainly for cancer.
Researchers have used ozone. The literature is replete. Another is UVBI
(ultraviolet blood irradiation). Extremely effective against pathogenic
invaders, and has been in use for over 40 years.but not accepted.
  Understand the politics of medicine and you will understand why many
modalities will never make it to mainstream. Remember, it was proven in 1983
that stomach ulcers were caused by H Pylori. It took until 1996 to be
accepted. Today there are over 20 isolated bacterium. Also, Rife, Koch and
others in the 1920's and 1930's said toxins (from viruses, etc.) caused
cancer. They were scoffed at and worse. Today there are 5 viruses proven to
cause cancer.
  I would have liked to offer a $10,000 challenge to Mr. Barrett that there
is more than one cure for Hepatitis C, easily disproven by lab reports.
One is an herbal mixture documented by M.D.'s. I used this for several
things. However, he's broke from all the lawsuits he's losing in court. This
guys a phony, and the truth be known was originally financed by the AMA et
al. He hasn't had a real job in 20 years.
  Do some research and you'll find the same ones that control the drug
industry are the same ones that run the media. They're all in bed together.
  Finally, one must understand that you can research all you want. Material
published is done by consensus, not necessarily based on fact. They publish
what they want.
  I could go on and on, but the point is mute. The public is brainwashed.
- Original Message -
From: Catherine Creel ccr...@maine.rr.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: CSonline discussion with Barrett on Friday, Jan. 25, at 1 p.m.
ET.


 Hi Tel,


   You said:

 They can not have it both ways !  Here on ABC News they explore
 zapping Anthrax Mail with Ozone, But last night they reported Ozone is
 not effective in treating cancerJimmy a Break !


 Their reason for satying this is because researchers never tried
 ozone in humans.  In vitro it tells them it creates enough free radicals
 to kill a person, so they won't try it.

   However, that being said, because ozone kills one thing, does not mean
 it kills another - any more than one antibiotic is right for everything.

   If ozone worked on cancer all the time, no one would die.
 The fact is, in some people, ozone keeps cancer at bay.
 In others, it does nothing.

  This is why I don't see ABC as being inconsistent.

   Regards,
 Catherine


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Re: CSonline discussion with Barrett on Friday, Jan. 25, at 1 p.m. ET.

2002-01-25 Thread DJG
EXACTLY. They edit the interviews to slant things their way. I'll bet ABC
didn't bring up the court case recently lost by Mr. Barrett in California,
did they? The judge basically laughed him out of court. He is both a liar
and a snake.
- Original Message -
From: Maxine Wilton mm...@sprynet.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 2:09 PM
Subject: Re: CSonline discussion with Barrett on Friday, Jan. 25, at 1 p.m.
ET.


 If questions are being filteres and some not answered, why is the
discussion
 even being conducted???
  What good will it be
  It must be evident that this person is obcessed with being against
 Alternative medicine?
  What Drug Co's does he have a stake in or why  is he so against
 Alternatives.
  The discussion should include  another person, not of his   mind against
 the purpose of the discussion.
Fair,   HUMBUG?

 -Original Message-
 From: Catherine Creel ccr...@maine.rr.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Friday, January 25, 2002 7:15 AM
 Subject: Re: CSonline discussion with Barrett on Friday, Jan. 25, at 1
p.m.
 ET.


 James said:
 
 He is a dip.
 
   I agree, James, but I think you're being too kind :-) I wish we had
 free access to him with questions. Unfortunately, questions are
 being filtered.
 
 Catherine
 
 
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Re: CSonline discussion with Barrett on Friday, Jan. 25, at 1 p.m. ET.

2002-01-25 Thread DJG
  Believe me, I understand his connections. The man is a retired
psychiatrist, does that tell you something?
- Original Message -
From: Catherine Creel ccr...@maine.rr.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 5:15 PM
Subject: Re: CSonline discussion with Barrett on Friday, Jan. 25, at 1 p.m.
ET.


 Hi James,


   You said:

 A couple of years ago I tried to have a friendly dialogue with him re:
CS.
 Not possible.  I presumed thereafter a high probability that he is a  paid
 disinformation agent.  I understand that Dr. Hulda Clark et al are suing
him
 for all of the false statements that he has published about her.   I hope
 they nail him.


He is a serious threat to alt med.  He is involved in a number
 of lawsuits, some of which he has won, some he's lost, and some
 still pending.

   He is backed by the chemical and pharmaceutical industries.
 This private not-for-profit is a front for his work.

 www.acsh.org


Those who don't take him seriously have no idea the depth
 of his connections.

 Regards,
 Catherine



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CSRemarks ref to discussion. CSonline discussion with Barrett on Friday, Jan. 25, at 1 p.m. ET.

2002-01-25 Thread Maxine Wilton
  Well,  the drug Co's don't want to loose their shirts.  In abt  3 months
my spouces medicine,  (! ) went up 12.00  so he couldn't buy it??? now what?
   I have him on KEFIR  /KT   and  Vit's etc and  is better able but
still needs the other.  A D D  is lacking in   things to help  him with
ability to Focus, and  ability to   fuction in adversity etc.
  Well  we need to p0rotect our rights to get  med help  for ourselves
that as experiences have helped  other than drugs,
  All people and  circumstances not same but
Don't let them  get away with putting herbs etc on prescription lists!.
Maxine

-Original Message-
From: DJG ql...@tds.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Friday, January 25, 2002 6:57 PM
Subject: Re: CSonline discussion with Barrett on Friday, Jan. 25, at 1 p.m.
ET.


It is by design these national news media blitz's plant doubts. My friend
is a doctor in Florida with a ozone generator. He has used it to cure a
litter of puppies with parvo, and his cousin (my friend as well) used it.
Done properly, it is perfectly safe. Another friend, a retired
bio-physicist
in Texas, has much experience with Ozone and IV H2O2. He also was treating
cancer patients for years with Koch's SSR ( www.williamfkoch.com ),
illegally nonetheless.  No, ozone doesn't work in each case, but why is it
that ozone is commonly used in Europefor decades, yet the medical
nimrods in the U.S. refuse to recognize it? It is not mainly for cancer.
Researchers have used ozone. The literature is replete. Another is UVBI
(ultraviolet blood irradiation). Extremely effective against pathogenic
invaders, and has been in use for over 40 years.but not accepted.
  Understand the politics of medicine and you will understand why many
modalities will never make it to mainstream. Remember, it was proven in
1983
that stomach ulcers were caused by H Pylori. It took until 1996 to be
accepted. Today there are over 20 isolated bacterium. Also, Rife, Koch and
others in the 1920's and 1930's said toxins (from viruses, etc.) caused
cancer. They were scoffed at and worse. Today there are 5 viruses proven to
cause cancer.
  I would have liked to offer a $10,000 challenge to Mr. Barrett that there
is more than one cure for Hepatitis C, easily disproven by lab reports.
One is an herbal mixture documented by M.D.'s. I used this for several
things. However, he's broke from all the lawsuits he's losing in court.
This
guys a phony, and the truth be known was originally financed by the AMA et
al. He hasn't had a real job in 20 years.
  Do some research and you'll find the same ones that control the drug
industry are the same ones that run the media. They're all in bed together.
  Finally, one must understand that you can research all you want. Material
published is done by consensus, not necessarily based on fact. They publish
what they want.
  I could go on and on, but the point is mute. The public is brainwashed.
- Original Message -
From: Catherine Creel ccr...@maine.rr.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: CSonline discussion with Barrett on Friday, Jan. 25, at 1
p.m.
ET.


 Hi Tel,


   You said:

 They can not have it both ways !  Here on ABC News they explore
 zapping Anthrax Mail with Ozone, But last night they reported Ozone is
 not effective in treating cancerJimmy a Break !


 Their reason for satying this is because researchers never tried
 ozone in humans.  In vitro it tells them it creates enough free radicals
 to kill a person, so they won't try it.

   However, that being said, because ozone kills one thing, does not mean
 it kills another - any more than one antibiotic is right for everything.

   If ozone worked on cancer all the time, no one would die.
 The fact is, in some people, ozone keeps cancer at bay.
 In others, it does nothing.

  This is why I don't see ABC as being inconsistent.

   Regards,
 Catherine


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Re: CSonline discussion with Barrett on Friday, Jan. 25, at 1 p.m. ET.

2002-01-25 Thread Leo Regehr
Does anyone have copies of their communications with Barrett still on their
drives? If so, please let me know.
Leo
  

James Osbourne, Holmes wrote:

 A couple of years ago I tried to have a friendly dialogue with him re: CS.
 Not possible.  I presumed thereafter a high probability that he is a  paid
 disinformation agent.  I understand that Dr. Hulda Clark et al are suing him
 for all of the false statements that he has published about her.   I hope
 they nail him.

 James-Osbourne: Holmes

 -Original Message-
 From: Catherine Creel [mailto:ccr...@maine.rr.com]
 Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 8:06 AM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSonline discussion with Barrett on Friday, Jan. 25, at 1 p.m.
 ET.

 James said:

 He is a dip.

   I agree, James, but I think you're being too kind :-) I wish we had
 free access to him with questions. Unfortunately, questions are
 being filtered.

 Catherine

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Re: CSonline discussion with Barrett on Friday, Jan. 25, at 1 p.m. ET.

2002-01-25 Thread Catherine Creel
 Do some research and you'll find the same ones that control the drug
industry are the same ones that run the media. They're all in bed together.
  Finally, one must understand that you can research all you want. Material
published is done by consensus, not necessarily based on fact. They publish
what they want.
  I could go on and on, but the point is mute. The public is brainwashed.


  You're preaching to the choir.  I'm a researcher and writer specializing
in
health and medicine.


  You said:


  Finally, one must understand that you can research all you want.
Material published is done by consensus, not necessarily based on fact.
They publish what they want.


This is why it is necessary to have a background in these sciences
so that the material can be evaluated in-depth.  My objection is to those
who make up the answers to be in accordance with what they most
desire to be the truth.

   My response about ozone was in direct response to a particular
statement, not about ozone therapy in general.

  Catherine


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Re: CSonline discussion with Barrett on Friday, Jan. 25, at 1 p.m. ET.

2002-01-25 Thread Catherine Creel
EXACTLY. They edit the interviews to slant things their way. I'll bet ABC
didn't bring up the court case recently lost by Mr. Barrett in California,
did they? The judge basically laughed him out of court. He is both a liar
and a snake.


  ABC didn't bring anything up.  It was a chat to which people submitted
questions online.

Catherine



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Re: CSonline discussion with Barrett on Friday, Jan. 25, at 1 p.m. ET.

2002-01-25 Thread FHLew
Greetings

  When they confined the dear lady, Dr.Hulda Clark, we raised
hell didn't we? At least I did .I lost all
past postings because of viral corruption. It is always
an experience to re-read what one has written in the past.

With regards
Lew

- Original Message -
From: James Osbourne, Holmes a...@cybermesa.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 4:39 AM
Subject: RE: CSonline discussion with Barrett on Friday, Jan. 25, at 1 p.m.
ET.


 A couple of years ago I tried to have a friendly dialogue with him re: CS.
 Not possible.  I presumed thereafter a high probability that he is a  paid
 disinformation agent.  I understand that Dr. Hulda Clark et al are suing
him
 for all of the false statements that he has published about her.   I hope
 they nail him.

 James-Osbourne: Holmes

 -Original Message-
 From: Catherine Creel [mailto:ccr...@maine.rr.com]
 Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 8:06 AM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSonline discussion with Barrett on Friday, Jan. 25, at 1
p.m.
 ET.

 James said:

 He is a dip.

   I agree, James, but I think you're being too kind :-) I wish we had
 free access to him with questions. Unfortunately, questions are
 being filtered.

 Catherine


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Re: CSonline discussion with Barrett on Friday, Jan. 25, at 1 p.m. ET.

2002-01-25 Thread Russ Rosser
Please elaborate on the nature of this connection!.  Tx.  --Russ


  Do some research and you'll find the same ones that control the drug
 industry are the same ones that run the media. They're all in bed
together.



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