Re: CSRe: the blue senator
I'd like to take on this task, if it's OK with the list membership. Since I am a retired newspaper editor, I think I can speak man to man to him on CS. - Original Message - From: whomever999 ina...@pobox.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 8:54 PM Subject: Re: CSRe: the blue senator Here is another article by Tom Kotynski, the person who wrote the original article in the Great Falls Tribune : http://www.greatfallstribune.com/news/stories/20021007/localnews/235542.html His original article, of Sept 30th, set the whole thing off, although he might not have intended it to : http://www.greatfallstribune.com/news/stories/20020930/topstories/188162.htm l He ends this latest article with : if you're taking the stuff and suffering from skin discoloration or other symptoms, or think silver colloid lives up to its alternative medical hype as a natural antibiotic, contact me for a future story. It might be useful for someone to write to him and give him all the information he needs. It should be someone really knowledgeable about CS - the research evidence regarding its qualities. About its lack of toxicity - for example the FDA's response to an inquiry about CS http://silverdata.20m.com/fda.html. Compared with the toxicity of other drugs : http://www.fda.gov/cder/dpe/annrep96/. About argyria, including how it may be reversed with cilantro, and other methods. And asking him what proof anyone (such as the writer of the thoughtful e-mail) has offered of argyria being a more serious condition than Jones thinks (!!). If this knowledgeable person could email the information to Kotynski, requesting him to publish it right away, and *copy the email to this newsgroup*, we could all of us then observe what happens next! If Kotynski was indeed surprised by the wide dissemination of his report, then he should have an interest in presenting accurate, factual data on the subject. Indi - Original Message - From: Dean Miller dtmil...@midiowa.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 1:36 PM Subject: Re: CSRe: the blue senator Hi Laura, I hope you get a response from Stan (I presume he's mighty busy right now). The email I sent to silverfacts bounced. I have an HTML copy of the web page this FAQ came from, if you want it (I assume I can send it all right). On Tue, 15 Oct 2002 10:17:24 EDT, samma...@aol.com wrote: I agree, Bill. The blue story is all over the place. I've written to Mr. Jones asking if the FAQ can be attributed to him, and if I might have permission to post it around and create a webpage with his comments. My letter: -- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: the blue senator
On Wed, 16 Oct 2002 05:34:36 -0500, Bill Missett miss...@prodigy.net.mx wrote: I'd like to take on this task, if it's OK with the list membership. Since I am a retired newspaper editor, I think I can speak man to man to him on CS. I think that's a great idea. -- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: the blue senator
Hello: Try www.silverfacts.org Ian - Original Message - From: samma...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 3:00 PM Subject: CSRe: the blue senator In a message dated 10/14/02 9:53:46 AM Central Daylight Time, den...@toolsforhealing.com writes: The silverfacts.com link is broken. I did a search and found silverfacts.org, but the link was broken to it as well. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: the blue senator
In a message dated 10/13/02 5:58:17 PM Central Daylight Time, miss...@prodigy.net.mx writes: Why hasn't anyone demanded an accounting of this hoax to the news media? Get me the proof, including Stan's own testimony, and I'll take care of it. I need to know what news agencies issued the doctored photo, and which publication originated the doctored photo. This needs to be exposed. Let's blow this hoax out of the water!! I agree, Bill. The blue story is all over the place. I've written to Mr. Jones asking if the FAQ can be attributed to him, and if I might have permission to post it around and create a webpage with his comments. My letter: Subj: Your FAQ on colloidal silver and argyria Date: 10/15/02 9:13:34 AM Central Daylight Time From: Sammark4 To: stanjo...@montana.com Dear Mr. Jones, This was posted to an email list I belong to. The author said it came from the silverfacts.org webite, which is currently unavailable. Is the response below attributable to you, and if so, may I have your permission to repost this and to put it up on a webpage? May I include your email address? I think it's important to get accurate information out there to refute the apparent scare tactics. Thanks if you can help, Laura -- Stan Jones' FAQ: Here's my standard response. I think it answers most of your questions. Don't stop what you're doing. Colloidal silver has been so completely researched that we know it is very safe. Many people don't see any difference in my skin. This news blast started because a reporter who saw me in a debate in Great Falls, Montana interviewed me and published a story with a doctored photo (made my face decidedly blue). The associated press picked the story up and put it all on the Internet. To answer your questions: 1) I use a generator with three nine-volt batteries connected in series (27 volts D.C.); 2) I started taking colloidal silver in Seattle where the tap water is generally free from minerals. I added a few drops of salt water to improve the conductivity. When I moved to Montana 1998, I continued to use tap water but here it is full of minerals. I never had it tested. 3) I made my solution in an eight ounce paper cup, conducting the current for one hour. I then added one half of this solution to two gallons of drinking water that I kept in my refrigerator. I have no idea what the PPM of this solution was. 4) I drank my water over the entire day , but mostly in the evening after work. I have no idea how much I drank during any day. 5) I never filtered the solution. 6) People began to tell me my complexion was getting pale or green or blue. I never noticed the difference in my mirror every day. I did notice that under my finger nails was turning blue -- like a lack of oxygen. That's probably the first sign. No other part of my body shows any indications. I hope this is helpful. I know that I am an unusual case -- only the second or third case to be reported. If you are as careful as you indicate, you have absolutely nothing to worry about. Stay healthy. You are with millions of other Americans that take silver. Here's a good web site to visit www.silver100.com. Best wishes Yours for good health and freedom Stan Jones, Libertarian Candidate for the U.S. Senate -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: the blue senator
Hi Laura, I hope you get a response from Stan (I presume he's mighty busy right now). The email I sent to silverfacts bounced. I have an HTML copy of the web page this FAQ came from, if you want it (I assume I can send it all right). On Tue, 15 Oct 2002 10:17:24 EDT, samma...@aol.com wrote: I agree, Bill. The blue story is all over the place. I've written to Mr. Jones asking if the FAQ can be attributed to him, and if I might have permission to post it around and create a webpage with his comments. My letter: -- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: the blue senator
Dean, The email for Silver Facts is steve6...@attbi.com steve6...@attbi.com, per the website. Is this the one that bounced? Also, the correct link Stan Jones' comment is: http://www.silverfacts.org/pages/jones.html I tried both links, and they both seem to be working right now. Jannette From: Dean Miller dtmil...@midiowa.net Hi Laura, I hope you get a response from Stan (I presume he's mighty busy right now). The email I sent to silverfacts bounced. I have an HTML copy of the web page this FAQ came from, if you want it (I assume I can send it all right). -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: the blue senator
Hi Dean, I received a copy off-list from someone but thanks for the offer. I won't put it up on a webpage unless I get someone's permission, though, so I guess I'll have to wait. Laura In a message dated 10/15/02 12:36:55 PM Central Daylight Time, dtmil...@midiowa.net writes: Hi Laura, I hope you get a response from Stan (I presume he's mighty busy right now). The email I sent to silverfacts bounced. I have an HTML copy of the web page this FAQ came from, if you want it (I assume I can send it all right). -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: the blue senator- photo journalists too should be highlyoffended
Why is this any different than any of the other fraudlent or made up news they publish daily? Marshall Bill Missett wrote: Reid, you are 110 percent correct. This is a fraudulent action which will weigh heavy on whoever in whatever media agency perpetrated it. It will be explosive and unpleasant for whoever gets the finger pointed at them. - Original Message - From: Reid Harvey pott...@wlink.com.np To: silver list silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 7:19 PM Subject: CSRe: the blue senator- photo journalists too should be highly offended Dear Sammark4 and Bill, I have a relative who works for a large, photo journalism agency and she has told me that doctoring photos can be the kiss of death for an organization like hers. I think that not only CS enthusiasts should ber highly offended by what Associated Press allowed to fly as a news story. Also photo journalists should be incensed. I think this aspect should be played up. (I'm sorry to say that I cannot otherwise contribute to the effort.) Who knows? The journalists may even launch an investigation. Namaste, Reid, aware that news media can be highly corrupt, but aware that some journalists have a lot of integrity (innocent as a dove but wary as a fox). Sammark4 wrote: In a message dated 10/13/02 5:58:17 PM Central Daylight Time, miss...@prodigy.net.mx writes: Why hasn't anyone demanded an accounting of this hoax to the news media? Get me the proof, including Stan's own testimony, and I'll take care of it. I need to know what news agencies issued the doctored photo, and which publication originated the doctored photo. This needs to be exposed. Let's blow this hoax out of the water!! I agree, Bill. The blue story is all over the place. I've written to Mr. Jones asking if the FAQ can be attributed to him, and if I might have permission to post it around and create a webpage with his comments. My letter: -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: the blue senator- photo journalists too should be highly offended
Reid, you are 110 percent correct. This is a fraudulent action which will weigh heavy on whoever in whatever media agency perpetrated it. It will be explosive and unpleasant for whoever gets the finger pointed at them. - Original Message - From: Reid Harvey pott...@wlink.com.np To: silver list silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 7:19 PM Subject: CSRe: the blue senator- photo journalists too should be highly offended Dear Sammark4 and Bill, I have a relative who works for a large, photo journalism agency and she has told me that doctoring photos can be the kiss of death for an organization like hers. I think that not only CS enthusiasts should ber highly offended by what Associated Press allowed to fly as a news story. Also photo journalists should be incensed. I think this aspect should be played up. (I'm sorry to say that I cannot otherwise contribute to the effort.) Who knows? The journalists may even launch an investigation. Namaste, Reid, aware that news media can be highly corrupt, but aware that some journalists have a lot of integrity (innocent as a dove but wary as a fox). Sammark4 wrote: In a message dated 10/13/02 5:58:17 PM Central Daylight Time, miss...@prodigy.net.mx writes: Why hasn't anyone demanded an accounting of this hoax to the news media? Get me the proof, including Stan's own testimony, and I'll take care of it. I need to know what news agencies issued the doctored photo, and which publication originated the doctored photo. This needs to be exposed. Let's blow this hoax out of the water!! I agree, Bill. The blue story is all over the place. I've written to Mr. Jones asking if the FAQ can be attributed to him, and if I might have permission to post it around and create a webpage with his comments. My letter: -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: the blue senator
Here is another article by Tom Kotynski, the person who wrote the original article in the Great Falls Tribune : http://www.greatfallstribune.com/news/stories/20021007/localnews/235542.html His original article, of Sept 30th, set the whole thing off, although he might not have intended it to : http://www.greatfallstribune.com/news/stories/20020930/topstories/188162.html He ends this latest article with : if you're taking the stuff and suffering from skin discoloration or other symptoms, or think silver colloid lives up to its alternative medical hype as a natural antibiotic, contact me for a future story. It might be useful for someone to write to him and give him all the information he needs. It should be someone really knowledgeable about CS - the research evidence regarding its qualities. About its lack of toxicity - for example the FDA's response to an inquiry about CS http://silverdata.20m.com/fda.html. Compared with the toxicity of other drugs : http://www.fda.gov/cder/dpe/annrep96/. About argyria, including how it may be reversed with cilantro, and other methods. And asking him what proof anyone (such as the writer of the thoughtful e-mail) has offered of argyria being a more serious condition than Jones thinks (!!). If this knowledgeable person could email the information to Kotynski, requesting him to publish it right away, and *copy the email to this newsgroup*, we could all of us then observe what happens next! If Kotynski was indeed surprised by the wide dissemination of his report, then he should have an interest in presenting accurate, factual data on the subject. Indi - Original Message - From: Dean Miller dtmil...@midiowa.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 1:36 PM Subject: Re: CSRe: the blue senator Hi Laura, I hope you get a response from Stan (I presume he's mighty busy right now). The email I sent to silverfacts bounced. I have an HTML copy of the web page this FAQ came from, if you want it (I assume I can send it all right). On Tue, 15 Oct 2002 10:17:24 EDT, samma...@aol.com wrote: I agree, Bill. The blue story is all over the place. I've written to Mr. Jones asking if the FAQ can be attributed to him, and if I might have permission to post it around and create a webpage with his comments. My letter: -- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: the blue senator
On Tue, 15 Oct 2002 14:55:40 -0400, Jannette McKoy-Abel je...@optonline.net wrote: The email for Silver Facts is steve6...@attbi.com steve6...@attbi.com, per the website. Is this the one that bounced? No. There was an email address (which I'm too lazy to look up at the moment) that had @silverfacts.com as the ISP name. Also, the correct link Stan Jones' comment is: http://www.silverfacts.org/pages/jones.html I just tried the above URL and it wasn't found. Perhaps silverfacts disappeared from the DNS servers and hasn't propagated through the 'net as yet. -- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: the blue senator
On Sun, 13 Oct 2002 11:25:21 EDT, samma...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 10/13/02 2:44:08 AM Central Daylight Time, dtmil...@midiowa.net writes: I had thought that Stan's FAQ about his CS experience had been posted here, but I guess not. So ... here it is. Dean, was this in private to you or is there a link for Stan's statements? I would like to quote his comments to a forum where this was discussed, if possible. I found the info at http://www.silverfacts.com/pages/jones.html -- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: the blue senator
Always understood in UK it was 1. which includes silver cutlery and tableware. Terry - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 2:24 AM Subject: Re: CSRe: the blue senator 1. They had argyria from drinking wine from silver cups. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSRe: the blue senator
The silverfacts.com link is broken. I did a search and found silverfacts.org, but the link was broken to it as well. Dennis -Original Message- From: Dean Miller [mailto:dtmil...@midiowa.net] Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 4:35 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRe: the blue senator On Sun, 13 Oct 2002 11:25:21 EDT, samma...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 10/13/02 2:44:08 AM Central Daylight Time, dtmil...@midiowa.net writes: I had thought that Stan's FAQ about his CS experience had been posted here, but I guess not. So ... here it is. Dean, was this in private to you or is there a link for Stan's statements? I would like to quote his comments to a forum where this was discussed, if possible. I found the info at http://www.silverfacts.com/pages/jones.html -- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: the blue senator
Krishna is always depicted as being a blue color. Hummm Ken At 09:24 PM 10/13/02 -0400, you wrote: There is literature that alludes to there being a race of advanced beings that had blue blood. Some of this literature indicates that these are the inhabitants of the 12th planet, and were giants, IE the giant that David slew. They or their descendants became the heads of the monarchies, and were called blue bloods. Supposedly they had copper instead of iron for the oxygen carrying capability, thus making them have blue blood instead of red blood. Supposedly if you mixed the bloods of the blues and the humans, it would lead to blood disorders like hemophilia. I do have my doubts as to this. I would find it surprising if a blood which is copper based humanoid could cross with a iron based one and end up with anything that would live. I have heard three theories as to why the monarchs were called blue bloods. 1. They had argyria from drinking wine from silver cups. 2. They had a blood disorder from inbreeding 3. They were decedents of the blue blooded aliens. Probably one of them is correct, but not sure which one. Marshall Bill Missett wrote: I have read a lot of occult literature over the years which alluded to a blue race of people in our distant past. Perhaps we are destined to re-create the race here and now. Vote for Stan Jones!! - Original Message - From: Dean Miller dtmil...@midiowa.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2002 2:44 AM Subject: Re: CSRe: the blue senator Hi Ian, Bill and all, I had thought that Stan's FAQ about his CS experience had been posted here, but I guess not. So ... here it is. On Sat, 12 Oct 2002 19:50:19 -0400, Ian Roe ian_onta...@hotmail.com wrote: The fact is, the CNN picture on the internet doesn't have the same color scheme as other contemporary pictures on the internet of the same man. Stan Jones' FAQ: Here's my standard response. I think it answers most of your questions. Don't stop what you're doing. Colloidal silver has been so completely researched that we know it is very safe. Many people don't see any difference in my skin. This news blast started because a reporter who saw me in a debate in Great Falls, Montana interviewed me and published a story with a doctored photo (made my face decidedly blue). The associated press picked the story up and put it all on the Internet. To answer your questions: 1) I use a generator with three nine-volt batteries connected in series (27 volts D.C.); 2) I started taking colloidal silver in Seattle where the tap water is generally free from minerals. I added a few drops of salt water to improve the conductivity. When I moved to Montana 1998, I continued to use tap water but here it is full of minerals. I never had it tested. 3) I made my solution in an eight ounce paper cup, conducting the current for one hour. I then added one half of this solution to two gallons of drinking water that I kept in my refrigerator. I have no idea what the PPM of this solution was. 4) I drank my water over the entire day , but mostly in the evening after work. I have no idea how much I drank during any day. 5) I never filtered the solution. 6) People began to tell me my complexion was getting pale or green or blue. I never noticed the difference in my mirror every day. I did notice that under my finger nails was turning blue -- like a lack of oxygen. That's probably the first sign. No other part of my body shows any indications. I hope this is helpful. I know that I am an unusual case -- only the second or third case to be reported. If you are as careful as you indicate, you have absolutely nothing to worry about. Stay healthy. You are with millions of other Americans that take silver. Here's a good web site to visit www.silver100.com. Best wishes Yours for good health and freedom Stan Jones, Libertarian Candidate for the U.S. Senate -- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: the blue senator
On Mon, 14 Oct 2002 15:00:12 EDT, samma...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 10/14/02 9:53:46 AM Central Daylight Time, den...@toolsforhealing.com writes: The silverfacts.com link is broken. I did a search and found silverfacts.org, but the link was broken to it as well. Same here -- the plot thickens. Dean, did you copy the webpage when you found it? I don't normally copy a web page, but in this case I did. :) The web archive at www.archive.org has a listing for silverfacts.com last updated in 1990. They have an email address of silverfa...@silverfacts.com. If you've copied the web page perhaps they would give one of us permission to mirror the page with Stan's comments, and then we could use it as a reference to refute the validity of the blue photos. I just sent a message to silverfacts asking for permission. -- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: the blue senator
Hi Ian, Bill and all, I had thought that Stan's FAQ about his CS experience had been posted here, but I guess not. So ... here it is. On Sat, 12 Oct 2002 19:50:19 -0400, Ian Roe ian_onta...@hotmail.com wrote: The fact is, the CNN picture on the internet doesn't have the same color scheme as other contemporary pictures on the internet of the same man. Stan Jones' FAQ: Here's my standard response. I think it answers most of your questions. Don't stop what you're doing. Colloidal silver has been so completely researched that we know it is very safe. Many people don't see any difference in my skin. This news blast started because a reporter who saw me in a debate in Great Falls, Montana interviewed me and published a story with a doctored photo (made my face decidedly blue). The associated press picked the story up and put it all on the Internet. To answer your questions: 1) I use a generator with three nine-volt batteries connected in series (27 volts D.C.); 2) I started taking colloidal silver in Seattle where the tap water is generally free from minerals. I added a few drops of salt water to improve the conductivity. When I moved to Montana 1998, I continued to use tap water but here it is full of minerals. I never had it tested. 3) I made my solution in an eight ounce paper cup, conducting the current for one hour. I then added one half of this solution to two gallons of drinking water that I kept in my refrigerator. I have no idea what the PPM of this solution was. 4) I drank my water over the entire day , but mostly in the evening after work. I have no idea how much I drank during any day. 5) I never filtered the solution. 6) People began to tell me my complexion was getting pale or green or blue. I never noticed the difference in my mirror every day. I did notice that under my finger nails was turning blue -- like a lack of oxygen. That's probably the first sign. No other part of my body shows any indications. I hope this is helpful. I know that I am an unusual case -- only the second or third case to be reported. If you are as careful as you indicate, you have absolutely nothing to worry about. Stay healthy. You are with millions of other Americans that take silver. Here's a good web site to visit www.silver100.com. Best wishes Yours for good health and freedom Stan Jones, Libertarian Candidate for the U.S. Senate -- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: the blue senator
In a message dated 10/13/02 2:44:08 AM Central Daylight Time, dtmil...@midiowa.net writes: I had thought that Stan's FAQ about his CS experience had been posted here, but I guess not. So ... here it is. Dean, was this in private to you or is there a link for Stan's statements? I would like to quote his comments to a forum where this was discussed, if possible. thx, Laura -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: the blue senator
I have read a lot of occult literature over the years which alluded to a blue race of people in our distant past. Perhaps we are destined to re-create the race here and now. Vote for Stan Jones!! - Original Message - From: Dean Miller dtmil...@midiowa.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2002 2:44 AM Subject: Re: CSRe: the blue senator Hi Ian, Bill and all, I had thought that Stan's FAQ about his CS experience had been posted here, but I guess not. So ... here it is. On Sat, 12 Oct 2002 19:50:19 -0400, Ian Roe ian_onta...@hotmail.com wrote: The fact is, the CNN picture on the internet doesn't have the same color scheme as other contemporary pictures on the internet of the same man. Stan Jones' FAQ: Here's my standard response. I think it answers most of your questions. Don't stop what you're doing. Colloidal silver has been so completely researched that we know it is very safe. Many people don't see any difference in my skin. This news blast started because a reporter who saw me in a debate in Great Falls, Montana interviewed me and published a story with a doctored photo (made my face decidedly blue). The associated press picked the story up and put it all on the Internet. To answer your questions: 1) I use a generator with three nine-volt batteries connected in series (27 volts D.C.); 2) I started taking colloidal silver in Seattle where the tap water is generally free from minerals. I added a few drops of salt water to improve the conductivity. When I moved to Montana 1998, I continued to use tap water but here it is full of minerals. I never had it tested. 3) I made my solution in an eight ounce paper cup, conducting the current for one hour. I then added one half of this solution to two gallons of drinking water that I kept in my refrigerator. I have no idea what the PPM of this solution was. 4) I drank my water over the entire day , but mostly in the evening after work. I have no idea how much I drank during any day. 5) I never filtered the solution. 6) People began to tell me my complexion was getting pale or green or blue. I never noticed the difference in my mirror every day. I did notice that under my finger nails was turning blue -- like a lack of oxygen. That's probably the first sign. No other part of my body shows any indications. I hope this is helpful. I know that I am an unusual case -- only the second or third case to be reported. If you are as careful as you indicate, you have absolutely nothing to worry about. Stay healthy. You are with millions of other Americans that take silver. Here's a good web site to visit www.silver100.com. Best wishes Yours for good health and freedom Stan Jones, Libertarian Candidate for the U.S. Senate -- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: the blue senator
Why hasn't anyone demanded an accounting of this hoax to the news media? Get me the proof, including Stan's own testimony, and I'll take care of it. I need to know what news agencies issued the doctored photo, and which publication originated the doctored photo. This needs to be exposed. Let's blow this hoax out of the water!! - Original Message - From: Dean Miller dtmil...@midiowa.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2002 2:44 AM Subject: Re: CSRe: the blue senator Hi Ian, Bill and all, I had thought that Stan's FAQ about his CS experience had been posted here, but I guess not. So ... here it is. On Sat, 12 Oct 2002 19:50:19 -0400, Ian Roe ian_onta...@hotmail.com wrote: The fact is, the CNN picture on the internet doesn't have the same color scheme as other contemporary pictures on the internet of the same man. Stan Jones' FAQ: Here's my standard response. I think it answers most of your questions. Don't stop what you're doing. Colloidal silver has been so completely researched that we know it is very safe. Many people don't see any difference in my skin. This news blast started because a reporter who saw me in a debate in Great Falls, Montana interviewed me and published a story with a doctored photo (made my face decidedly blue). The associated press picked the story up and put it all on the Internet. To answer your questions: 1) I use a generator with three nine-volt batteries connected in series (27 volts D.C.); 2) I started taking colloidal silver in Seattle where the tap water is generally free from minerals. I added a few drops of salt water to improve the conductivity. When I moved to Montana 1998, I continued to use tap water but here it is full of minerals. I never had it tested. 3) I made my solution in an eight ounce paper cup, conducting the current for one hour. I then added one half of this solution to two gallons of drinking water that I kept in my refrigerator. I have no idea what the PPM of this solution was. 4) I drank my water over the entire day , but mostly in the evening after work. I have no idea how much I drank during any day. 5) I never filtered the solution. 6) People began to tell me my complexion was getting pale or green or blue. I never noticed the difference in my mirror every day. I did notice that under my finger nails was turning blue -- like a lack of oxygen. That's probably the first sign. No other part of my body shows any indications. I hope this is helpful. I know that I am an unusual case -- only the second or third case to be reported. If you are as careful as you indicate, you have absolutely nothing to worry about. Stay healthy. You are with millions of other Americans that take silver. Here's a good web site to visit www.silver100.com. Best wishes Yours for good health and freedom Stan Jones, Libertarian Candidate for the U.S. Senate -- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: the blue senator
There is literature that alludes to there being a race of advanced beings that had blue blood. Some of this literature indicates that these are the inhabitants of the 12th planet, and were giants, IE the giant that David slew. They or their descendants became the heads of the monarchies, and were called blue bloods. Supposedly they had copper instead of iron for the oxygen carrying capability, thus making them have blue blood instead of red blood. Supposedly if you mixed the bloods of the blues and the humans, it would lead to blood disorders like hemophilia. I do have my doubts as to this. I would find it surprising if a blood which is copper based humanoid could cross with a iron based one and end up with anything that would live. I have heard three theories as to why the monarchs were called blue bloods. 1. They had argyria from drinking wine from silver cups. 2. They had a blood disorder from inbreeding 3. They were decedents of the blue blooded aliens. Probably one of them is correct, but not sure which one. Marshall Bill Missett wrote: I have read a lot of occult literature over the years which alluded to a blue race of people in our distant past. Perhaps we are destined to re-create the race here and now. Vote for Stan Jones!! - Original Message - From: Dean Miller dtmil...@midiowa.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2002 2:44 AM Subject: Re: CSRe: the blue senator Hi Ian, Bill and all, I had thought that Stan's FAQ about his CS experience had been posted here, but I guess not. So ... here it is. On Sat, 12 Oct 2002 19:50:19 -0400, Ian Roe ian_onta...@hotmail.com wrote: The fact is, the CNN picture on the internet doesn't have the same color scheme as other contemporary pictures on the internet of the same man. Stan Jones' FAQ: Here's my standard response. I think it answers most of your questions. Don't stop what you're doing. Colloidal silver has been so completely researched that we know it is very safe. Many people don't see any difference in my skin. This news blast started because a reporter who saw me in a debate in Great Falls, Montana interviewed me and published a story with a doctored photo (made my face decidedly blue). The associated press picked the story up and put it all on the Internet. To answer your questions: 1) I use a generator with three nine-volt batteries connected in series (27 volts D.C.); 2) I started taking colloidal silver in Seattle where the tap water is generally free from minerals. I added a few drops of salt water to improve the conductivity. When I moved to Montana 1998, I continued to use tap water but here it is full of minerals. I never had it tested. 3) I made my solution in an eight ounce paper cup, conducting the current for one hour. I then added one half of this solution to two gallons of drinking water that I kept in my refrigerator. I have no idea what the PPM of this solution was. 4) I drank my water over the entire day , but mostly in the evening after work. I have no idea how much I drank during any day. 5) I never filtered the solution. 6) People began to tell me my complexion was getting pale or green or blue. I never noticed the difference in my mirror every day. I did notice that under my finger nails was turning blue -- like a lack of oxygen. That's probably the first sign. No other part of my body shows any indications. I hope this is helpful. I know that I am an unusual case -- only the second or third case to be reported. If you are as careful as you indicate, you have absolutely nothing to worry about. Stay healthy. You are with millions of other Americans that take silver. Here's a good web site to visit www.silver100.com. Best wishes Yours for good health and freedom Stan Jones, Libertarian Candidate for the U.S. Senate -- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: the blue senator
To answer your questions: 1) I use a generator with three nine-volt batteries connected in series (27 volts D.C.); Here is the first problem. This method will allow the particles to get to large very quickly. A Constant Current CS generator will not allow the particles to get so large that they can't pass through the body. 2) I started taking colloidal silver in Seattle where the tap water is generally free from minerals. I added a few drops of salt water to improve the conductivity. When I moved to Montana 1998, I continued to use tap water but here it is full of minerals. I never had it tested. Tap water has all sorts of minerals in it that when mixed with the silver will produce all kinds of silver compounds. The salt will cause silver nitrate. Distilled water and NO SALT will give you a pure CS product with no compounds. My tap water in Plano, TX is 480 PPM of who knows what! 3) I made my solution in an eight ounce paper cup, conducting the current for one hour. I then added one half of this solution to two gallons of drinking water that I kept in my refrigerator. I have no idea what the PPM of this solution was. Refrain from mixing CS with anything unless you are trying to kill the germs in it, like perhaps purifying drinking water. Generally you should take CS straight without mixing with anything. All of this combined can cause Agyria. So, please seek the truth. Best wishes Yours for good health and freedom Stan Jones, Libertarian Candidate for the U.S. Senate -- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF Sincerely, Keith Pittman -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSRe: the blue senator
The news media is the largest hoax of all. James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Bill Missett [mailto:miss...@prodigy.net.mx] Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2002 4:12 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRe: the blue senator Why hasn't anyone demanded an accounting of this hoax to the news media? Get me the proof, including Stan's own testimony, and I'll take care of it. I need to know what news agencies issued the doctored photo, and which publication originated the doctored photo. This needs to be exposed. Let's blow this hoax out of the water!! - Original Message - From: Dean Miller dtmil...@midiowa.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2002 2:44 AM Subject: Re: CSRe: the blue senator Hi Ian, Bill and all, I had thought that Stan's FAQ about his CS experience had been posted here, but I guess not. So ... here it is. On Sat, 12 Oct 2002 19:50:19 -0400, Ian Roe ian_onta...@hotmail.com wrote: The fact is, the CNN picture on the internet doesn't have the same color scheme as other contemporary pictures on the internet of the same man. Stan Jones' FAQ: Here's my standard response. I think it answers most of your questions. Don't stop what you're doing. Colloidal silver has been so completely researched that we know it is very safe. Many people don't see any difference in my skin. This news blast started because a reporter who saw me in a debate in Great Falls, Montana interviewed me and published a story with a doctored photo (made my face decidedly blue). The associated press picked the story up and put it all on the Internet. To answer your questions: 1) I use a generator with three nine-volt batteries connected in series (27 volts D.C.); 2) I started taking colloidal silver in Seattle where the tap water is generally free from minerals. I added a few drops of salt water to improve the conductivity. When I moved to Montana 1998, I continued to use tap water but here it is full of minerals. I never had it tested. 3) I made my solution in an eight ounce paper cup, conducting the current for one hour. I then added one half of this solution to two gallons of drinking water that I kept in my refrigerator. I have no idea what the PPM of this solution was. 4) I drank my water over the entire day , but mostly in the evening after work. I have no idea how much I drank during any day. 5) I never filtered the solution. 6) People began to tell me my complexion was getting pale or green or blue. I never noticed the difference in my mirror every day. I did notice that under my finger nails was turning blue -- like a lack of oxygen. That's probably the first sign. No other part of my body shows any indications. I hope this is helpful. I know that I am an unusual case -- only the second or third case to be reported. If you are as careful as you indicate, you have absolutely nothing to worry about. Stay healthy. You are with millions of other Americans that take silver. Here's a good web site to visit www.silver100.com. Best wishes Yours for good health and freedom Stan Jones, Libertarian Candidate for the U.S. Senate -- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: the blue senator
The fact is, the CNN picture on the internet doesn't have the same color scheme as other contemporary pictures on the internet of the same man. Someone at their website or in the news has skewed the colors and it remains uncorrected [or someone has skewed the color of all the other pictures and the whole world isn't talking]. The guy doesn't have yellow hair and he doesn't have a blue face as shown in the picture. Somebody had fun with a photo editor and changed the picture somewhere along the line - like this never happens? I doubt there is a conspiracy but someone altered the color scheme a lot - and they aren't stepping up to the plate to say why or if they have, we're not privy to it! He probably does have argyria as claimed but not as represented in the picture. In regards to conspiracy theories - many of them aren't theories anymore but fact - thanks to accurate accounts of history. But's that's off topic so we'll leave that alone and everyone can breath a sigh of relief! Ian. - Original Message - From: Bill Missett miss...@prodigy.net.mx To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 8:22 AM Subject: Re: CSRe: the blue senator Speaking as a former daily newspaper editor, I think all the conspiracy theories about faking the candidate's argyria are nonsense. Most media organizations have far too much integrity to engage in such -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: the blue senator
sol wrote: No one is questioning his honesty. Why not? From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com Subject: Re: CSRe: the blue senator Because he is a libertarian? Marshal *** I'll accept that explaination Marshall. Jack -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: the blue senator
Paula writes: Libertarian meaning one who toes the line benefiting corporate rapacity, but doesn't even have to be paid to do so It's time for me to step in here on two fronts... First, I think this part of the discussion needs to migrate to the silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com, lest we start hashing out our political differences here. We don't do that. Not here. Second, all of the Libertarian candidates I've met have wanted power only to do one thing, eliminate as much government power and authority as possible. Of course so few have actually attained such power one cannot judge whether they're immune to the fever... grin If dogcatchers, drain commissioners, and city council members are any indication, they'll do okay. Actually I don't trust any politician of any label, party, or stripe whatever. By definition (in my book) anyone who seeks to hold office is seeking power, authority, whatever, and is therefore not to be trusted. Ahhh, an anarchist after my own heart! Plus, he is a human being, and therefore also not trustworthy by definition. There's a discussion with religious and philosophical undertones if I've ever heard one! yumm! Yah, I know, I'm completely cynical, but then, I'm old and entitled. paula And there's an entitlement I can endorse. GRIN Followups set to silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com View the Off Topic archive at: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html Instructions for subscribing are at: http://www.silverlist.org/OffTopic.html If you are already subscribed to the silver list, you can post to the off-topic list. Just send your message to the off-topic-list address. Be well, Mike Devour silver-list owner [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSRe: the blue senator
Any one who thinks the media checks out all their stories is sadly mistaken. Just today it was reported that a study by WHO said there would be no more blond-haired people in a few hundred years. It's, of course, a total fabrication, but it was too good to not publish. Here's the text: === Roots Reveal Story on Blonds Was Bleached It was one of the catchier stories on morning shows and evening news programs alike last week - - study shows that blonds will become extinct within 200 years. But there's just one problem, reports the New York Times - - it wasn't true. The tale apparently got its start last Friday in several British newspapers reporting that the study in question was attributed to no less than the World Health Organization. As picked up the papers, and later by mainstream U.S. news programs including ABC News's Good Morning America and CNN, the study concluded that blondness was caused by a recessive gene that was diminishing. The last remaining natural blonds would survive longest in Scandinavia, where concentrations are highest, according to the tale, and the last true blond would hail from Finland. But in a statement issued yesterday, WHO said it had never conducted such a study and that it had never reported that blonds would become extinct. British papers said the report was likely picked up from one of several news organizations used by the press. But apparently, quips the Times, the story was just too good to check for veracity. === -Original Message- From: James Osbourne, Holmes [mailto:a...@cybermesa.com] Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 10:48 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSRe: the blue senator Most media organizations have far too much integrity to engage in such practices. Are you kidding? Until recently everyone believed that Pearl Harbor was a surprise. They are now admitting that Roosevelt allowed it to happen, for the good of the nation. Admiral Richardson told him years prior what was going to happen. Foreign nations warned years in advance. There were 24 radio transmission intercepted by intelligence as they were coming. Roosevelt ordered Hawaii to not be informed. ONI gave him an explicit warning 69 hours before the attack. Do you think the mainstream press has presented an true, correct, and complete evaluation of Oklahoma City. WTC? Iraq? James-Osbourne: Holmes -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: the blue senator
I cringe every time I've heard Wayne Green on Art Bell's show say to put a pinch of salt to get the cs started. Diane Ode Coyote wrote: He's a 'Libertarian' candidate. Elections are notorious for playing dirty tricks and using massive distortion of the opponants either directly or by hiring third parties. Here in NC, Helms threatened the black population with tax audits and such if they registered to vote.. Big scandal and plausable deniability for Helms after campaign people get fired...after the election. Out of the loop? Yea, right...but prove otherwise. \ Don't believe anything having to do with a election...candidates do all sorts of things to each other even up to the point of being criminal. Law is about who gets away with what..not about right and wrong. [if it were about right and wrong, we'd need darned few laws and we'd be able to comprehend them] No misquotes? No bending of contexts? Gimme a break! Has anyone emailed Stan for verification? Ken At 06:51 AM 10/4/02 -0400, you wrote: No one is questioning his honesty. They are questioning if he is being used. It would not be far out for him to be used, in fact I would expect the drug cartel to try and use this any way they can, and they have the funds to do it. It is quite apparent the photos have been doctored. The question is by who and why? Were the photos issued to the newpapers doctored, or did some of the news organizations decide he was not blue enough for a good story and shift the color, or is the newspaper photo department incompetent? Marshall Bill Missett wrote: Speaking as a former daily newspaper editor, I think all the conspiracy theories about faking the candidate's argyria are nonsense. Most media organizations have far too much integrity to engage in such practices. Such a patently phony conspiracy would and could easily be exposed, leading to huge embarassment and professional disgrace for whatever news organization promoted it. And for what gain? The man obviously has, or thinks he has, argyria. He says he got it from drinking his own homemade CS. Do you think he's inventing this claim and putting on blue makeup before each public appearance? Nonsense. The only way this could have been faked is if he had a pre-existing case of argyria, and was induced to run for public office to give negative exposure to CS, and that's about as far-fetched as the other conspiracy theories. I think the gentleman is honest, and is telling the truth, and it's not going to further the CS cause at all. This is all the FDA needs for further restrictions on CS. Rosemary Jacobs must be celebrating this turn of events. - Original Message - From: James Osbourne, Holmes a...@cybermesa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 7:54 AM Subject: RE: CSRe: the blue senator The following may be a bit garbled, but is fundamentally true. The head of Fox news is Roger Ales (phonetic, may be completely wrong, might be Arthur). He is the grand spinmiester. He staged the Town Hall campaign commercials for Richard Nixon. These created the impression that citizens were asking spontaneous questions of the candidate. In fact, the audience was hand picked. He says, Give them interesting pictures and they won't give a damn about the content or words to that effect. James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: samma...@aol.com [mailto:samma...@aol.com] Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 1:07 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRe: the blue senator Jones looks very healthy in the debate video. I suppose that could be an excellent make-up job, yet his hairline, scalp and even what can be seen of the part in his hair look normal too. The differences between the video and the CNN/Fox photos are dramatic. Laura James Allison wrote: Found the footage of the debate that was on TV... http:// video.c-span.org:8080/ramgen/fdrive/c091602_mt.rm -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: the blue senator
He's a 'Libertarian' candidate. Elections are notorious for playing dirty tricks and using massive distortion of the opponants either directly or by hiring third parties. Here in NC, Helms threatened the black population with tax audits and such if they registered to vote.. Big scandal and plausable deniability for Helms after campaign people get fired...after the election. Out of the loop? Yea, right...but prove otherwise. \ Don't believe anything having to do with a election...candidates do all sorts of things to each other even up to the point of being criminal. Law is about who gets away with what..not about right and wrong. [if it were about right and wrong, we'd need darned few laws and we'd be able to comprehend them] No misquotes? No bending of contexts? Gimme a break! Has anyone emailed Stan for verification? Ken At 06:51 AM 10/4/02 -0400, you wrote: No one is questioning his honesty. They are questioning if he is being used. It would not be far out for him to be used, in fact I would expect the drug cartel to try and use this any way they can, and they have the funds to do it. It is quite apparent the photos have been doctored. The question is by who and why? Were the photos issued to the newpapers doctored, or did some of the news organizations decide he was not blue enough for a good story and shift the color, or is the newspaper photo department incompetent? Marshall Bill Missett wrote: Speaking as a former daily newspaper editor, I think all the conspiracy theories about faking the candidate's argyria are nonsense. Most media organizations have far too much integrity to engage in such practices. Such a patently phony conspiracy would and could easily be exposed, leading to huge embarassment and professional disgrace for whatever news organization promoted it. And for what gain? The man obviously has, or thinks he has, argyria. He says he got it from drinking his own homemade CS. Do you think he's inventing this claim and putting on blue makeup before each public appearance? Nonsense. The only way this could have been faked is if he had a pre-existing case of argyria, and was induced to run for public office to give negative exposure to CS, and that's about as far-fetched as the other conspiracy theories. I think the gentleman is honest, and is telling the truth, and it's not going to further the CS cause at all. This is all the FDA needs for further restrictions on CS. Rosemary Jacobs must be celebrating this turn of events. - Original Message - From: James Osbourne, Holmes a...@cybermesa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 7:54 AM Subject: RE: CSRe: the blue senator The following may be a bit garbled, but is fundamentally true. The head of Fox news is Roger Ales (phonetic, may be completely wrong, might be Arthur). He is the grand spinmiester. He staged the Town Hall campaign commercials for Richard Nixon. These created the impression that citizens were asking spontaneous questions of the candidate. In fact, the audience was hand picked. He says, Give them interesting pictures and they won't give a damn about the content or words to that effect. James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: samma...@aol.com [mailto:samma...@aol.com] Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 1:07 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRe: the blue senator Jones looks very healthy in the debate video. I suppose that could be an excellent make-up job, yet his hairline, scalp and even what can be seen of the part in his hair look normal too. The differences between the video and the CNN/Fox photos are dramatic. Laura James Allison wrote: Found the footage of the debate that was on TV... http:// video.c-span.org:8080/ramgen/fdrive/c091602_mt.rm -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: the blue senator
No one is questioning his honesty. Well why the hell not? He's a politician for goodness sake! paula -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: the blue senator
I agree Jim, some competitor did a number on him. I am amazed that some stringer was dumb enough to send that smear out over the wires w/o at least trying to verify that rather obvious tampering. Jack -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: the blue senator
Because he is a libertarian? Marshall sol wrote: No one is questioning his honesty. Well why the hell not? He's a politician for goodness sake! paula -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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No one is questioning his honesty. They are questioning if he is being used. It would not be far out for him to be used, in fact I would expect the drug cartel to try and use this any way they can, and they have the funds to do it. It is quite apparent the photos have been doctored. The question is by who and why? Were the photos issued to the newpapers doctored, or did some of the news organizations decide he was not blue enough for a good story and shift the color, or is the newspaper photo department incompetent? Marshall Bill Missett wrote: Speaking as a former daily newspaper editor, I think all the conspiracy theories about faking the candidate's argyria are nonsense. Most media organizations have far too much integrity to engage in such practices. Such a patently phony conspiracy would and could easily be exposed, leading to huge embarassment and professional disgrace for whatever news organization promoted it. And for what gain? The man obviously has, or thinks he has, argyria. He says he got it from drinking his own homemade CS. Do you think he's inventing this claim and putting on blue makeup before each public appearance? Nonsense. The only way this could have been faked is if he had a pre-existing case of argyria, and was induced to run for public office to give negative exposure to CS, and that's about as far-fetched as the other conspiracy theories. I think the gentleman is honest, and is telling the truth, and it's not going to further the CS cause at all. This is all the FDA needs for further restrictions on CS. Rosemary Jacobs must be celebrating this turn of events. - Original Message - From: James Osbourne, Holmes a...@cybermesa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 7:54 AM Subject: RE: CSRe: the blue senator The following may be a bit garbled, but is fundamentally true. The head of Fox news is Roger Ales (phonetic, may be completely wrong, might be Arthur). He is the grand spinmiester. He staged the Town Hall campaign commercials for Richard Nixon. These created the impression that citizens were asking spontaneous questions of the candidate. In fact, the audience was hand picked. He says, Give them interesting pictures and they won't give a damn about the content or words to that effect. James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: samma...@aol.com [mailto:samma...@aol.com] Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 1:07 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRe: the blue senator Jones looks very healthy in the debate video. I suppose that could be an excellent make-up job, yet his hairline, scalp and even what can be seen of the part in his hair look normal too. The differences between the video and the CNN/Fox photos are dramatic. Laura James Allison wrote: Found the footage of the debate that was on TV... http:// video.c-span.org:8080/ramgen/fdrive/c091602_mt.rm -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Speaking as a former daily newspaper editor, I think all the conspiracy theories about faking the candidate's argyria are nonsense. Most media organizations have far too much integrity to engage in such practices. Such a patently phony conspiracy would and could easily be exposed, leading to huge embarassment and professional disgrace for whatever news organization promoted it. And for what gain? The man obviously has, or thinks he has, argyria. He says he got it from drinking his own homemade CS. Do you think he's inventing this claim and putting on blue makeup before each public appearance? Nonsense. The only way this could have been faked is if he had a pre-existing case of argyria, and was induced to run for public office to give negative exposure to CS, and that's about as far-fetched as the other conspiracy theories. I think the gentleman is honest, and is telling the truth, and it's not going to further the CS cause at all. This is all the FDA needs for further restrictions on CS. Rosemary Jacobs must be celebrating this turn of events. - Original Message - From: James Osbourne, Holmes a...@cybermesa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 7:54 AM Subject: RE: CSRe: the blue senator The following may be a bit garbled, but is fundamentally true. The head of Fox news is Roger Ales (phonetic, may be completely wrong, might be Arthur). He is the grand spinmiester. He staged the Town Hall campaign commercials for Richard Nixon. These created the impression that citizens were asking spontaneous questions of the candidate. In fact, the audience was hand picked. He says, Give them interesting pictures and they won't give a damn about the content or words to that effect. James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: samma...@aol.com [mailto:samma...@aol.com] Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 1:07 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRe: the blue senator Jones looks very healthy in the debate video. I suppose that could be an excellent make-up job, yet his hairline, scalp and even what can be seen of the part in his hair look normal too. The differences between the video and the CNN/Fox photos are dramatic. Laura James Allison wrote: Found the footage of the debate that was on TV... http:// video.c-span.org:8080/ramgen/fdrive/c091602_mt.rm -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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The following may be a bit garbled, but is fundamentally true. The head of Fox news is Roger Ales (phonetic, may be completely wrong, might be Arthur). He is the grand spinmiester. He staged the Town Hall campaign commercials for Richard Nixon. These created the impression that citizens were asking spontaneous questions of the candidate. In fact, the audience was hand picked. He says, Give them interesting pictures and they won't give a damn about the content or words to that effect. James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: samma...@aol.com [mailto:samma...@aol.com] Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 1:07 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRe: the blue senator Jones looks very healthy in the debate video. I suppose that could be an excellent make-up job, yet his hairline, scalp and even what can be seen of the part in his hair look normal too. The differences between the video and the CNN/Fox photos are dramatic. Laura James Allison wrote: Found the footage of the debate that was on TV... http:// video.c-span.org:8080/ramgen/fdrive/c091602_mt.rm -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Dear Bill, You said: Rosemary Jacobs must be celebrating this turn of events. Rosemary celebrates all the time because she has the ear of the conventional medical community, and possesses a fact-proof denial system. Despite opportunites to explore the issue, her supporters and she cling to that which they want to believe. It's not unlike what is happening here where people automatically discredit the story about the senatorial candidate without thorough research into the story. How can we be critical of others' lack of willingness to make scientific inquiries when we will have the same kind of knee-jerk reactions to a story that appears to threaten our belief system? If I was still in the exploratory phase of considering CS and using this list as a resource to factual information, I would begin doubting the information here because of the emotional response to this news story. I would be wondering if all that is talked about here is based upon what people WANT to be true instead of what may actually BE true. Regards, Catherine -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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I haven't called the man a liar, or claimed there is a conspiracy afoot. I noted the dramatic differences between Jones in the debate video and in the CNN/Fox photos. In my view we've got to deal with the info we have, and the differences are part of what we have. I agree this is just what the FDA needs to further restrict CS. Laura In a message dated 10/4/02 8:11:09 AM Central Daylight Time, miss...@prodigy.net.mx writes: Speaking as a former daily newspaper editor, I think all the conspiracy theories about faking the candidate's argyria are nonsense. Most media organizations have far too much integrity to engage in such practices. Such a patently phony conspiracy would and could easily be exposed, leading to huge embarassment and professional disgrace for whatever news organization promoted it. And for what gain? The man obviously has, or thinks he has, argyria. He says he got it from drinking his own homemade CS. Do you think he's inventing this claim and putting on blue makeup before each public appearance? Nonsense. The only way this could have been faked is if he had a pre-existing case of argyria, and was induced to run for public office to give negative exposure to CS, and that's about as far-fetched as the other conspiracy theories. I think the gentleman is honest, and is telling the truth, and it's not going to further the CS cause at all. This is all the FDA needs for further restrictions on CS. Rosemary Jacobs must be celebrating this turn of events. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Most media organizations have far too much integrity to engage in such practices. Are you kidding? Until recently everyone believed that Pearl Harbor was a surprise. They are now admitting that Roosevelt allowed it to happen, for the good of the nation. Admiral Richardson told him years prior what was going to happen. Foreign nations warned years in advance. There were 24 radio transmission intercepted by intelligence as they were coming. Roosevelt ordered Hawaii to not be informed. ONI gave him an explicit warning 69 hours before the attack. Do you think the mainstream press has presented an true, correct, and complete evaluation of Oklahoma City. WTC? Iraq? James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Bill Missett [mailto:miss...@prodigy.net.mx] Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 6:23 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRe: the blue senator Speaking as a former daily newspaper editor, I think all the conspiracy theories about faking the candidate's argyria are nonsense. Most media organizations have far too much integrity to engage in such practices. Such a patently phony conspiracy would and could easily be exposed, leading to huge embarassment and professional disgrace for whatever news organization promoted it. And for what gain? The man obviously has, or thinks he has, argyria. He says he got it from drinking his own homemade CS. Do you think he's inventing this claim and putting on blue makeup before each public appearance? Nonsense. The only way this could have been faked is if he had a pre-existing case of argyria, and was induced to run for public office to give negative exposure to CS, and that's about as far-fetched as the other conspiracy theories. I think the gentleman is honest, and is telling the truth, and it's not going to further the CS cause at all. This is all the FDA needs for further restrictions on CS. Rosemary Jacobs must be celebrating this turn of events. - Original Message - From: James Osbourne, Holmes a...@cybermesa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 7:54 AM Subject: RE: CSRe: the blue senator The following may be a bit garbled, but is fundamentally true. The head of Fox news is Roger Ales (phonetic, may be completely wrong, might be Arthur). He is the grand spinmiester. He staged the Town Hall campaign commercials for Richard Nixon. These created the impression that citizens were asking spontaneous questions of the candidate. In fact, the audience was hand picked. He says, Give them interesting pictures and they won't give a damn about the content or words to that effect. James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: samma...@aol.com [mailto:samma...@aol.com] Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 1:07 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRe: the blue senator Jones looks very healthy in the debate video. I suppose that could be an excellent make-up job, yet his hairline, scalp and even what can be seen of the part in his hair look normal too. The differences between the video and the CNN/Fox photos are dramatic. Laura James Allison wrote: Found the footage of the debate that was on TV... http:// video.c-span.org:8080/ramgen/fdrive/c091602_mt.rm -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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They believed and trusted their government. That's where the problem lies, and lies, and lies. - Original Message - From: James Osbourne, Holmes a...@cybermesa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 9:48 AM Subject: RE: CSRe: the blue senator Most media organizations have far too much integrity to engage in such practices. Are you kidding? Until recently everyone believed that Pearl Harbor was a surprise. They are now admitting that Roosevelt allowed it to happen, for the good of the nation. Admiral Richardson told him years prior what was going to happen. Foreign nations warned years in advance. There were 24 radio transmission intercepted by intelligence as they were coming. Roosevelt ordered Hawaii to not be informed. ONI gave him an explicit warning 69 hours before the attack. Do you think the mainstream press has presented an true, correct, and complete evaluation of Oklahoma City. WTC? Iraq? James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Bill Missett [mailto:miss...@prodigy.net.mx] Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 6:23 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRe: the blue senator Speaking as a former daily newspaper editor, I think all the conspiracy theories about faking the candidate's argyria are nonsense. Most media organizations have far too much integrity to engage in such practices. Such a patently phony conspiracy would and could easily be exposed, leading to huge embarassment and professional disgrace for whatever news organization promoted it. And for what gain? The man obviously has, or thinks he has, argyria. He says he got it from drinking his own homemade CS. Do you think he's inventing this claim and putting on blue makeup before each public appearance? Nonsense. The only way this could have been faked is if he had a pre-existing case of argyria, and was induced to run for public office to give negative exposure to CS, and that's about as far-fetched as the other conspiracy theories. I think the gentleman is honest, and is telling the truth, and it's not going to further the CS cause at all. This is all the FDA needs for further restrictions on CS. Rosemary Jacobs must be celebrating this turn of events. - Original Message - From: James Osbourne, Holmes a...@cybermesa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 7:54 AM Subject: RE: CSRe: the blue senator The following may be a bit garbled, but is fundamentally true. The head of Fox news is Roger Ales (phonetic, may be completely wrong, might be Arthur). He is the grand spinmiester. He staged the Town Hall campaign commercials for Richard Nixon. These created the impression that citizens were asking spontaneous questions of the candidate. In fact, the audience was hand picked. He says, Give them interesting pictures and they won't give a damn about the content or words to that effect. James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: samma...@aol.com [mailto:samma...@aol.com] Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 1:07 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRe: the blue senator Jones looks very healthy in the debate video. I suppose that could be an excellent make-up job, yet his hairline, scalp and even what can be seen of the part in his hair look normal too. The differences between the video and the CNN/Fox photos are dramatic. Laura James Allison wrote: Found the footage of the debate that was on TV... http:// video.c-span.org:8080/ramgen/fdrive/c091602_mt.rm -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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And yet another pic, this one taken from the debates as well. Jones is the 2nd one from the left. KulrDebateAllFour.jpg
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Notice the dark patch just below the outer corner of the eye and just in front of the bottom of the sideburn. Could that be it? James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: James Allison [mailto:apothec...@cox.net] Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 4:28 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRe: the blue senator And yet another pic, this one taken from the debates as well. Jones is the 2nd one from the left.
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CS Gang, It would be interesting to know when each photo was taken, as there is NO evidence of argyria in one photo. Argyria does not occur over short periods of time. Doctored photos..?? Hmmm. Tom Bassett tb...@carroll.com - Original Message - From: cmccau...@kayescholer.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 12:14 PM Subject: CSRe: the blue senator Here is a pic of him from his website: http://mtlp.org/jones/index.html Here is one from a news article: http://www.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/10/02/offbeat.blue.candidate/index.html You be the judge. The news article looks tampered with, IMHO. Unless he's dyed his hair too. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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I sent this earlier, however, I haven't seen it show up yet so I'm sending it again, if it's a repeat, sorry... Finely!!! Found the footage of the debate that was on TV... http://video.c-span.org:8080/ramgen/fdrive/c091602_mt.rm Yours in health, James Allison - Original Message - From: James Osbourne, Holmes To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 4:46 PM Subject: RE: CSRe: the blue senator Notice the dark patch just below the outer corner of the eye and just in front of the bottom of the sideburn. Could that be it? James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: James Allison [mailto:apothec...@cox.net] Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 4:28 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRe: the blue senator And yet another pic, this one taken from the debates as well. Jones is the 2nd one from the left.
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Nope I clicked zoom in 3 times and no blue there on a brown Hank James Osbourne, Holmes a...@cybermesa.com wrote: - Attachment: MIME Type: multipart/alternative - Notice the dark patch just below the outer corner of the eye and just in front of the bottom of the sideburn. Could that be it? James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: James Allison [mailto:apothec...@cox.net] Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 4:28 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRe: the blue senator And yet another pic, this one taken from the debates as well. Jones is the 2nd one from the left. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
