RE: CSTesting pH?
Continued reading up on ph testing is gradually steering me towards either test
strips or those el cheapo type meters similar to soil moisture testers, just a
long prong you stick in the dirt {or in this case, water}, either of the above
seems like the best 'less fuss' option for my purpose.
N.
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Subject: RE: CSTesting pH?
Neville writes:
Most articles I've read talk about keeping that probe wet all the time.
I don't think that's important for my purpose though.
I'd have to ask my wife, the scientist, but i seem to remember that
some pH probes do have to be protected by keeping them in a calibration
solution all the time when not in use, or they might go bad.
I'll ask her, but if the equipment manufacturer says so, you'd probably
want to do it.
Be well,
Mike D.
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RE: CSTesting pH?
Hi Neville, The keeping wet instruction is to prevent premature death of the pH probe. they go for years if looked after properly . Some probes may go down, never to recover, in a month or so if not cared for. OK, Tony On 5 Jul 2010 at 10:57, Neville Munn wrote about : Subject : RE: CSTesting pH? Hi Tony, Most articles I've read talk about keeping that probe wet all the time. I don't think that's important for my purpose though. I'd say that's only if a degree of accuracy was of the utmost importance, more in laboratory situations I suspect as opposed to the kitchen benchtop. I think I've got the answer I've been looking for. Cheers N. From: a...@new.co.za To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2010 09:24:33 +0200 Subject: RE: CSTesting pH? Hi Neville, Taking a guess here . The buffer may be a solution made up to be a fixed pH for testing and monitoring and adjusting the pH meter. From memory, watching others setting up and calibrating pH electrodes and meters, there were two such solutions at or near the ends of the upper and lower range of the desired measurement range. But usually only one solution is sufficient for checking, once the meter and electrode is set. A buffer solution is chosen to be a stable pH even though it has aged or been stuffed up in other ways. It should be a steady, reliable known pH. OK, Tony On 3 Jul 2010 at 11:28, Neville Munn wrote about : Subject : RE: CSTesting pH? This is why I asked if a buffer is *necessary*, I don't want to change anything, and I don't want to 'neutralise' anything, I just want to take a measurement *as is*. I'm content now, knowing that a buffer is not a requirement if simply wanting to take a straight measurement of water or a solution. Why do you add the reagent Harold? Correct me if I'm wrong, but buffers are for the purpose of increasing or decreasing acidity/alkalinity as a compensatory measure to create a neutral pH are they not? I don't wish to alter or neutralise anything, just get a reading of pH of the water/solution as it is from scratch. N. From: har...@telus.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSTesting pH? Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 16:26:24 -0700 I test my Distilled water using an aquarium kit.It uses a blue reagent,2 drops in a measured amt of water. Harold _ If It Exists, You'll Find it on SEEK. Australia's #1 job site http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157639755/direct/01/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com _ View photos of singles in your area! Looking for a hot date? http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/150855801/direct/01/
RE: CSTesting pH?
Hi Tony, Most articles I've read talk about keeping that probe wet all the time. I don't think that's important for my purpose though. I'd say that's only if a degree of accuracy was of the utmost importance, more in laboratory situations I suspect as opposed to the kitchen benchtop. I think I've got the answer I've been looking for. Cheers N. From: a...@new.co.za To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2010 09:24:33 +0200 Subject: RE: CSTesting pH? Hi Neville, Taking a guess here . The buffer may be a solution made up to be a fixed pH for testing and monitoring and adjusting the pH meter. From memory, watching others setting up and calibrating pH electrodes and meters, there were two such solutions at or near the ends of the upper and lower range of the desired measurement range. But usually only one solution is sufficient for checking, once the meter and electrode is set. A buffer solution is chosen to be a stable pH even though it has aged or been stuffed up in other ways. It should be a steady, reliable known pH. OK, Tony On 3 Jul 2010 at 11:28, Neville Munn wrote about : Subject : RE: CSTesting pH? This is why I asked if a buffer is *necessary*, I don't want to change anything, and I don't want to 'neutralise' anything, I just want to take a measurement *as is*. I'm content now, knowing that a buffer is not a requirement if simply wanting to take a straight measurement of water or a solution. Why do you add the reagent Harold? Correct me if I'm wrong, but buffers are for the purpose of increasing or decreasing acidity/alkalinity as a compensatory measure to create a neutral pH are they not? I don't wish to alter or neutralise anything, just get a reading of pH of the water/solution as it is from scratch. N. From: har...@telus.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSTesting pH? Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 16:26:24 -0700 I test my Distilled water using an aquarium kit.It uses a blue reagent,2 drops in a measured amt of water. Harold _ If It Exists, You'll Find it on SEEK. Australia's #1 job site http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157639755/direct/01/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com _ View photos of singles in your area! Looking for a hot date? http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/150855801/direct/01/
RE: CSTesting pH?
Neville writes: Most articles I've read talk about keeping that probe wet all the time. I don't think that's important for my purpose though. I'd have to ask my wife, the scientist, but i seem to remember that some pH probes do have to be protected by keeping them in a calibration solution all the time when not in use, or they might go bad. I'll ask her, but if the equipment manufacturer says so, you'd probably want to do it. Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSTesting pH?
Oops, OK, Sorry, my mistake.
I did say my knowledge of chemistry was minimal {but I am still reading in an
attempt to get a better grasp of pH testing methods} g.
N.
From: mdev...@eskimo.com
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Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 21:21:13 -0500
Subject: RE: CSTesting pH?
Neville,
The chemical Harold is adding is not a buffer, but simply an
*indicator* that changes color over a range of pH. It's a similar thing
to the stuff that's soaked into litmus paper. It should *not* change
the pH of the sample, if it's properly designed and made.
Buffers, as you say, are designed to adjust the pH to a particular
value, and don't necessarily have anything to do with measuring the pH.
The only way I can think they might is by measuring the amount needed
to achieve that pH change you could possibly get some indication of the
composition of the acid or alkaline chemistry of the sample. That's
just a guess on my part, however. I don't have any experience with such
systems.
Be well,
Mike D.
This is why I asked if a buffer is *necessary*, I don't want to change
anything, and I don't want to 'neutralise' anything, I just want to take
a measurement *as is*.
I'm content now, knowing that a buffer is not a requirement if simply
wanting to take a straight measurement of water or a solution.
Why do you add the reagent Harold?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but buffers are for the purpose of increasing
or decreasing acidity/alkalinity as a compensatory measure to create a
neutral pH are they not? I don't wish to alter or neutralise anything,
just get a reading of pH of the water/solution as it is from scratch.
N.
From: har...@telus.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSTesting pH?
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 16:26:24 -0700
I test my Distilled water using an aquarium kit.It uses a blue reagent,2
drops in a measured amt of water.
Harold
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RE: CSTesting pH?
Hi Neville, Taking a guess here . The buffer may be a solution made up to be a fixed pH for testing and monitoring and adjusting the pH meter. From memory, watching others setting up and calibrating pH electrodes and meters, there were two such solutions at or near the ends of the upper and lower range of the desired measurement range. But usually only one solution is sufficient for checking, once the meter and electrode is set. A buffer solution is chosen to be a stable pH even though it has aged or been stuffed up in other ways. It should be a steady, reliable known pH. OK, Tony On 3 Jul 2010 at 11:28, Neville Munn wrote about : Subject : RE: CSTesting pH? This is why I asked if a buffer is *necessary*, I don't want to change anything, and I don't want to 'neutralise' anything, I just want to take a measurement *as is*. I'm content now, knowing that a buffer is not a requirement if simply wanting to take a straight measurement of water or a solution. Why do you add the reagent Harold? Correct me if I'm wrong, but buffers are for the purpose of increasing or decreasing acidity/alkalinity as a compensatory measure to create a neutral pH are they not? I don't wish to alter or neutralise anything, just get a reading of pH of the water/solution as it is from scratch. N. From: har...@telus.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSTesting pH? Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 16:26:24 -0700 I test my Distilled water using an aquarium kit.It uses a blue reagent,2 drops in a measured amt of water. Harold _ If It Exists, You'll Find it on SEEK. Australia's #1 job site http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157639755/direct/01/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSTesting pH?
Exactly.
The Litumus paper is to see what the PH is, the buffer to change it and
Litumus paper is to see what the PH is then.
Ode
At 09:55 PM 7/2/2010 +1030, you wrote:
Don't know if you've misunderstood the question Ode?
Most articles I read about pH testing there is mention of a buffer
solution, not being chemistry minded, and my understanding in these
matters is minimal {whilst I continue my search for relevant material}
therefore I just wanted to know if a meter/paper could be used *as is*
without the necessity for that buffer solution.
It seems to me that the reason buffer solutions are used is if one wishes
to *change* the acidity or alkalinity of that solution which is being
tested as a means of 'compensation'...I don't want to *change* or
*compensate* for anything...just want to know if I can dip the paper/meter
in the water and use that pH reading as a reference of pH of that solution.
Do you follow what I'm saying?
PH will be different at cessation of production to what it will be after
suitable time frame has elapsed...to a point whereby I suppose the pH
reaches a point of 'stabilization?'...Yes/No? Not dissimilar to the
silver solution time frame for stabilization.
N.
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 05:59:00 -0400
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
From: odecoy...@windstream.net
Subject: Re: CSTesting pH?
It seems to me that if you do buffer a solution, you are using the
paper/meter to test the PH altering effect of the buffer and would have to
test the solution both before and after buffering it.
Ode
At 05:34 PM 7/2/2010 +1030, you wrote:
If I wanted to test pH of distilled water or my EIS/CS solutions do I
need
to use that 'buffer' solution or can I simply use a pH meter or paper
strips...in, out, job done so to speak?
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Re: CSTesting pH?
It seems to me that if you do buffer a solution, you are using the paper/meter to test the PH altering effect of the buffer and would have to test the solution both before and after buffering it. Ode At 05:34 PM 7/2/2010 +1030, you wrote: If I wanted to test pH of distilled water or my EIS/CS solutions do I need to use that 'buffer' solution or can I simply use a pH meter or paper strips...in, out, job done so to speak? N. -- Find it on Domain.com.au Need a new place to live? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Don't know if you've misunderstood the question Ode?
Most articles I read about pH testing there is mention of a buffer solution,
not being chemistry minded, and my understanding in these matters is minimal
{whilst I continue my search for relevant material} therefore I just wanted to
know if a meter/paper could be used *as is* without the necessity for that
buffer solution.
It seems to me that the reason buffer solutions are used is if one wishes to
*change* the acidity or alkalinity of that solution which is being tested as a
means of 'compensation'...I don't want to *change* or *compensate* for
anything...just want to know if I can dip the paper/meter in the water and use
that pH reading as a reference of pH of that solution.
Do you follow what I'm saying?
PH will be different at cessation of production to what it will be after
suitable time frame has elapsed...to a point whereby I suppose the pH reaches a
point of 'stabilization?'...Yes/No? Not dissimilar to the silver solution time
frame for stabilization.
N.
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 05:59:00 -0400
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
From: odecoy...@windstream.net
Subject: Re: CSTesting pH?
It seems to me that if you do buffer a solution, you are using the
paper/meter to test the PH altering effect of the buffer and would have to
test the solution both before and after buffering it.
Ode
At 05:34 PM 7/2/2010 +1030, you wrote:
If I wanted to test pH of distilled water or my EIS/CS solutions do I need
to use that 'buffer' solution or can I simply use a pH meter or paper
strips...in, out, job done so to speak?
N.
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Re: CSTesting pH?
Neville Munn wrote: If I wanted to test pH of distilled water or my EIS/CS solutions do I need to use that 'buffer' solution or can I simply use a pH meter or paper strips...in, out, job done so to speak? N. Find it on Domain.com.au Need a new place to live? http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157631292/direct/01/ Just test the water, do not buffer it or you will get a wrong answer. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Thank You kind Sir. N. Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 11:31:40 -0400 From: mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSTesting pH? Neville Munn wrote: If I wanted to test pH of distilled water or my EIS/CS solutions do I need to use that 'buffer' solution or can I simply use a pH meter or paper strips...in, out, job done so to speak? N. Find it on Domain.com.au Need a new place to live? http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157631292/direct/01/ Just test the water, do not buffer it or you will get a wrong answer. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com _ Browse profiles for FREE! Meet local singles online. http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/150855801/direct/01/
RE: CSTesting pH?
This is why I asked if a buffer is *necessary*, I don't want to change anything, and I don't want to 'neutralise' anything, I just want to take a measurement *as is*. I'm content now, knowing that a buffer is not a requirement if simply wanting to take a straight measurement of water or a solution. Why do you add the reagent Harold? Correct me if I'm wrong, but buffers are for the purpose of increasing or decreasing acidity/alkalinity as a compensatory measure to create a neutral pH are they not? I don't wish to alter or neutralise anything, just get a reading of pH of the water/solution as it is from scratch. N. From: har...@telus.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSTesting pH? Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 16:26:24 -0700 I test my Distilled water using an aquarium kit.It uses a blue reagent,2 drops in a measured amt of water. Harold _ If It Exists, You'll Find it on SEEK. Australia's #1 job site http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157639755/direct/01/
RE: CSTesting pH?
Neville, The chemical Harold is adding is not a buffer, but simply an *indicator* that changes color over a range of pH. It's a similar thing to the stuff that's soaked into litmus paper. It should *not* change the pH of the sample, if it's properly designed and made. Buffers, as you say, are designed to adjust the pH to a particular value, and don't necessarily have anything to do with measuring the pH. The only way I can think they might is by measuring the amount needed to achieve that pH change you could possibly get some indication of the composition of the acid or alkaline chemistry of the sample. That's just a guess on my part, however. I don't have any experience with such systems. Be well, Mike D. This is why I asked if a buffer is *necessary*, I don't want to change anything, and I don't want to 'neutralise' anything, I just want to take a measurement *as is*. I'm content now, knowing that a buffer is not a requirement if simply wanting to take a straight measurement of water or a solution. Why do you add the reagent Harold? Correct me if I'm wrong, but buffers are for the purpose of increasing or decreasing acidity/alkalinity as a compensatory measure to create a neutral pH are they not? I don't wish to alter or neutralise anything, just get a reading of pH of the water/solution as it is from scratch. N. From: har...@telus.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSTesting pH? Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 16:26:24 -0700 I test my Distilled water using an aquarium kit.It uses a blue reagent,2 drops in a measured amt of water. Harold _ If It Exists, You'll Find it on SEEK. Australia's #1 job site http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157639755/direct/01/ [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CStesting ph levels
how do i test ph levels. do i have to buy a pool kit from the pool store.j twll t...@alltel.net wrote:look at www.curezone.com for info on liver cleansing- Original Message - From: Jason Eaton To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 2:18 AMSubject: Re: CSwhats wrong with my colloidal silver linda Jay: Be wary of the advice you hear from those who do not speak with the voice of experience. Acne is primarily a condition caused by liver congestion. There is often a relationship between acne and acidic body conditions. David's earlier advice was about the best I've seen. Taking colloidal silver will not cure severe acne. It can help to control it. The first thing that needs to be done is a complete bowel cleanse. You need to test the PH levels of the body, and if the ph level of your saliva is 6.5 or below, you need to correct this. You may find that your PH level is between 4.5 - 5.1. When the PH level of the fluids in the soft tissues is more acidic than the normal range of your skin, no treatment will be successful. Your elimination system needs to be stimulated. Your colon must be restored. This alone can take a substantial amount of time. Then, the liver must be restored to health. Many of the supplements on the market today are not easy on the liver. So taking mass supplements without a targeted purpose for each one can result in the exact opposite: An increase in the exteriorization of the condition. Any established and chronic infection can be tough to wipe out, even when the conditions that cause the problem are reversed. Colloidal silver may start to become more effective as the conditions in your body are corrected. Keep in mind that chronic acne is cyclic. Colloidal silver used topically can do two things: stop the spreading of bacteria on the surface of your skin, or increase the spread... Depending on how dry your skin is. Better to make a very light gel with CS and aloe vera. MSM added is beneficial. Taking extremely large quantities of colloidal silver ( orally ) may effectively treat the condition. However, this is not adviseable, as if you don't identify and correct the cause, you'll be setting yourself up for some severe problems. Some very tough conditions, such, as nuero-syphilis, can take as much as 32 ounces of colloidal silver daily to cure. There are many avenu bacteria problem (acne) 2 years. i am hungry but i just take a look at food and nothing is appetizeing. foods i once liked don't even taste good. it's all just food. i have no food i like any more. its a battery operated colloidal silver generator. very basic. $40.00 i guess i will get a ppm tester. does price have anything to do with quality when buying a ppm tester.j e82...@aol.com wrote:Honey, it sounds like you are definitely overdoing it a tad on everything. Just how long have you had this bacteria problem? If you are using JUST CS and nothing else...like the peroxide in the CS...you should NOT have any acne problem. The youghurt is not for the acne...it is to try and calm down your digestive system which at this point sounds like it's in deep trouble if you are not hungry. If I were you (this is just if I were you and NOT to be considered medical advice) I would just back it down with the vitamins, grapefruit pills, etc. and just clean out my system and give it a rest. You sound like you are bombarding your system right now and it's doing what it should - violently react to everything. I have this virus and I tried to knock it out of my system by taking ! about 10 oz of CS every day. The only thing it did was make the virus mad and made me feel worse!!! I stopped the CS for a few days and then gradually (and I do mean gradually) started taking one oz a day and now I feel better. You need to remember the CS is just like a drug...but it is nature's drug...and you don't have to overdo it to get the benefits. I, too, thought that more was betterNO it it no How are you making your CS? What kind of generator are you using? Is it electric or battery? The battery ones tend to get a bit weak and your mixture would therefore be weak also. I use the Silver Generator from Silver Puppy. That is the best. I also spent about $20 some dollars and bought a PPM tester (Hanna) off Ebay. Now I don't have to guess my strengthI test it. I definitely would recommend stopping the peroxide immediately. Make up a brand new batch of CS right now and throw the o! ld batches away. They are not doing you any good and maybe they are harming you. You are not supposed to ingest stuff like peroxide and that could possibly be causing your problems. Hey, it's worth a try, yes? This way you can eliminate everything and then very gradually start adding things back to your body gradually... What originally started this bacteria thing anyway? Was it a cut or something like that on your face...or are you just being
