Re: CSWD 40 Warning
Where in the Bible? Most interesting!! - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 12:07 PM Subject: Re: CSWD 40 Warning Malcolm Stebbins wrote: Hi Jonathan, and others, How do you (generic 'you') think the beneficial antibacterial etc., effects of CS were first discovered? Government labs? Large pharma companies? Not Likely! Since the first mention of Silver to kill pathogens is mentioned in the Bible, and by Aristotle, I suspect that information probably came from the gods (masters) of that time. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSWD 40 Warning
There are many websites that make the following claim: Silver is also mentioned in the Bible where royalty carried water in silver vessels in the belief that this water would help them maintain their health. ( http://www.angelfire.com/folk/naturalife/collsilv.html and ahttp://www.island.net/~zapper/Colloidal%20Silver.html are just two examples ) Searching for citations in the Bible however I have only found a couple of references: Daniel 5:2 While Belshazzar was drinking his wine, he gave orders to bring in the gold and silver goblets that Nebuchadnezzar his father had taken from the temple in Jerusalem, so that the king and his nobles, his wives and his concubines might drink from them. Genesis 44:2 (New International Version) Then put my cup, the silver one, in the mouth of the youngest one's sack, along with the silver for his grain. And he did as Joseph said. So, although silver was used for cups, the reason for them doing so does not appear as clear cut as those sites would have you believe. I might have missed the appropriate passage though. Marshall William Missett wrote: Where in the Bible? Most interesting!! - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 12:07 PM Subject: Re: CSWD 40 Warning Malcolm Stebbins wrote: Hi Jonathan, and others, How do you (generic 'you') think the beneficial antibacterial etc., effects of CS were first discovered? Government labs? Large pharma companies? Not Likely! Since the first mention of Silver to kill pathogens is mentioned in the Bible, and by Aristotle, I suspect that information probably came from the gods (masters) of that time. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSWD 40 Warning
Can I throw my two cents worth in alsothe frankencise, mryth, and one other bought by the wise men to the baby Christ are known antifungals toodebbie -- Original message -- From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com There are many websites that make the following claim: Silver is also mentioned in the Bible where royalty carried water in silver vessels in the belief that this water would help them maintain their health. ( http://www.angelfire.com/folk/naturalife/collsilv.html and ahttp://www.island.net/~zapper/Colloidal%20Silver.html are just two examples ) Searching for citations in the Bible however I have only found a couple of references: Daniel 5:2 While Belshazzar was drinking his wine, he gave orders to bring in the gold and silver goblets that Nebuchadnezzar his father had taken from the temple in Jerusalem, so that the king and his nobles, his wives and his concubines might drink from them. Genesis 44:2 (New International Version) Then put my cup, the silver one, in the mouth of the youngest one's sack, along with the silver for his grain. And he did as Joseph said. So, although silver was used for cups, the reason for them doing so does not appear as clear cut as those sites would have you believe. I might have missed the appropriate passage though. Marshall William Missett wrote: Where in the Bible? Most interesting!! - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley To: Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 12:07 PM Subject: Re: CSWD 40 Warning Malcolm Stebbins wrote: Hi Jonathan, and others, How do you (generic 'you') think the beneficial antibacterial etc., effects of CS were first discovered? Government labs? Large pharma companies? Not Likely! Since the first mention of Silver to kill pathogens is mentioned in the Bible, and by Aristotle, I suspect that information probably came from the gods (masters) of that time. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CSRE: ***Possible Spam*** Re: CSWD 40 Warning
Somewhere a long time ago, someone told me that most of WD 40 is kerosene. I do not know if that is true. -Original Message- From: V [mailto:vzo...@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 1:01 PM To: Jonathan B. Britten Subject: ***Possible Spam*** Re: CSWD 40 Warning Hi Jonathan, I have put it on my skin, because nothing else would give relief when I was getting an itchy spot, the more I scratched the more it itched until it would be raw and then it would itch some more. Tried all sorts of things nothing would stop the itch. So I finally tried the WD40 on it and it relived the itch considerably. Tha was over a year ago. I have since discovered the itch was due to a wheat(bread) alergy at the time. I stopped the wehat and the itch stopped. doesnt happen any more now. I heard the WD40 has varnish or laquer in it and maybe fish oil. Not good to use on guns as it builds up a residue Take care, V http://www.health-freedom.info/ There has been talk here about using WD 40 on the skin. Please see the link below. http://www.camd.lsu.edu/msds/w/wd_40.htm NB there is no mention of DMSO, which someone suggested might be an ingredient. I think it would be quite risky to expose oneself to this product. JBB -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com --
Re: CSWD 40 Warning
And don't forget about the olive leaf extract's antipathogen properties: Ezekiel 47:12 (New International Version) Fruit trees of all kinds will grow on both banks of the river. Their leaves will not wither, nor will their fruit fail. Every month they will bear, because the water from the sanctuary flows to them. Their fruit will serve for food and their leaves for healing. Marshall debbiegerar...@comcast.net wrote: Can I throw my two cents worth in alsothe frankencise, mryth, and one other bought by the wise men to the baby Christ are known antifungals toodebbie -- Original message -- From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com There are many websites that make the following claim: Silver is also mentioned in the Bible where royalty carried water in silver vessels in the belief that this water would help them maintain their health. ( http://www.angelfire.com/folk/naturalife/collsilv.html and ahttp://www.island.net/~zapper/Colloidal%20Silver.html are just two examples ) Searching for citations in the Bible however I have only found a couple of references: Daniel 5:2 While Belshazzar was drinking his wine, he gave orders to bring in the gold and silver goblets that Nebuchadnezzar his father had taken from the temple in Jerusalem, so that the king and his nobles, his wives and ! his con cubines might drink from them. Genesis 44:2 (New International Version) Then put my cup, the silver one, in the mouth of the youngest one's sack, along with the silver for his grain. And he did as Joseph said. So, although silver was used for cups, the reason for them doing so does not appear as clear cut as those sites would have you believe. I might have missed the appropriate passage though. Marshall William Missett wrote: Where in the Bible? Most interesting!! - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley To: Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 12:07 PM Subject: Re: CSWD 40 Warning Malcolm Stebbins wrote: Hi Jo! nathan, and others, How do you (generic 'you') think the beneficial antibacterial etc., effects of CS were first discovered? Government labs? Large pharma companies? Not Likely! Since the first mention of Silver to kill pathogens is mentioned in the Bible, and by Aristotle, I suspect that information probably came from the gods (masters) of that time. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-l...@eskimo.c! om Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CSWD 40 Warning
That's another one that is a biggieall thru the Word...debbie -- Original message -- From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com And don't forget about the olive leaf extract's antipathogen properties: Ezekiel 47:12 (New International Version) Fruit trees of all kinds will grow on both banks of the river. Their leaves will not wither, nor will their fruit fail. Every month they will bear, because the water from the sanctuary flows to them. Their fruit will serve for food and their leaves for healing. Marshall debbiegerar...@comcast.net wrote: Can I throw my two cents worth in alsothe frankencise, mryth, and one other bought by the wise men to the baby Christ are known antifungals toodebbie -- Original message -- From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com There are many websites that make the following claim: Silver is also mentioned in the Bible where royalty carried water in silver vessels in the belief that this water would help them maintain their health. ( http://www.angelfire.com/folk/naturalife/collsilv.html and ahttp://www.island.net/~zapper/Colloidal%20Silver.html are just two examples ) Searching for citations in the Bible however I have only found a couple of references: Daniel 5:2 While Belshazzar was drinking his wine, he gave orders to bring in the gold and silver goblets that Nebuchadnezzar his father had taken from the temple in Jerusalem, so that the king and his nobles, his wives and ! his con cubines might drink from them. Genesis 44:2 (New International Version) Then put my cup, the silver one, in the mouth of the youngest one's sack, along with the silver for his grain. And he did as Joseph said. So, although silver was used for cups, the reason for them doing so does not appear as clear cut as those sites would have you believe. I might have missed the appropriate passage though. Marshall William Missett wrote: Where in the Bible? Most interesting!! - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley To: Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 12:07 PM Subject: Re: CSWD 40 Warning Malcolm Stebbins wrote: Hi Jo! nathan, and others, How do you (generic 'you') think the beneficial antibacterial etc., effects of CS were first discovered? Government labs? Large pharma companies? Not Likely! Since the first mention of Silver to kill pathogens is mentioned in the Bible, and by Aristotle, I suspect that information probably came from the gods (masters) of that time. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-l...@eskimo.c! om Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CSWD 40 Warning
The wise men brought gifts of gold, frankincense, and myrrh... debbiegerar...@comcast.net wrote: Can I throw my two cents worth in alsothe frankencise, mryth, and one other bought by the wise men to the baby Christ are known antifungals toodebbie -- Original message -- From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com There are many websites that make the following claim: Silver is also mentioned in the Bible -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.5/335 - Release Date: 5/9/2006 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSWD 40 Warning
How come they didnt bring silver as well? Dan Nave na...@comcast.net wrote: The wise men brought gifts of gold, frankincense, and myrrh... debbiegerar...@comcast.net wrote: Can I throw my two cents worth in alsothe frankencise, mryth, and one other bought by the wise men to the baby Christ are known antifungals toodebbie -- Original message -- From: Marshall Dudley There are many websites that make the following claim: Silver is also mentioned in the Bible -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.5/335 - Release Date: 5/9/2006 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour Carol Ann ___ The Pessimist complains about the Wind; The Optimist expects it to change; The Realist adjusts the Sails. - The world needs more sailors. - Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one click on Yahoo! FareChase
Re: CSWD 40 Warning
Gold is also a symbol of deity where silver is redemption -- Original message -- From: Carol Ann saffiresk...@yahoo.com How come they didnt bring silver as well? Dan Nave na...@comcast.net wrote: The wise men brought gifts of gold, frankincense, and myrrh... debbiegerar...@comcast.net wrote: Can I throw my two cents worth in alsothe frankencise, mryth, and one other bought by the wise men to the baby Christ are known antifungals toodebbie -- Original message -- From: Marshall Dudley There are many websites that make the following claim: Silver is also mentioned in the Bible -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.5/335 - Release Date: 5/9/2006 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour Carol Ann ___ The Pessimist complains about the Wind; The Optimist expects it to change; The Realist adjusts the Sails. - The world needs more sailors. Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one click on Yahoo! FareChase
Re: CSWD 40 Warning
Is that in the Bible as well? debbiegerar...@comcast.net wrote: Gold is also a symbol of deity where silver is redemption -- Original message -- From: Carol Ann saffiresk...@yahoo.com How come they didnt bring silver as well? Dan Nave na...@comcast.net wrote: The wise men brought gifts of gold, frankincense, and myrrh... debbiegerar...@comcast.net wrote: Can I throw my two cents worth in alsothe frankencise, mryth, and one other bought by the wise men to the baby Christ are known antifungals toodebbie -- Original message -- From: Marshall Dudley There are many websites that make the following claim: Silver is also mentioned in the Bible -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.5/335 - Release Date: 5/9/2006 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.! org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour Carol Ann ___ The Pessimist complains about the Wind; The Optimist expects it to change; The Realist adjusts the Sails. - The world needs more sailors. - Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one click on Yahoo! FareChase Carol Ann ___ The Pessimist complains about the Wind; The Optimist expects it to change; The Realist adjusts the Sails. - The world needs more sailors. - New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big.
Re: CSWD 40 Warning
I believe the crowns that are mentioned are made of Gold and the thirty pieces of silver that was given Judas to betray ChristIt is very interesting too the objects in the Tabernacle in the wilderness that were made with different metals also even the Tabernacle itself in certain areasdebbie -- Original message -- From: Carol Ann saffiresk...@yahoo.com Is that in the Bible as well? debbiegerar...@comcast.net wrote: Gold is also a symbol of deity where silver is redemption -- Original message -- From: Carol Ann saffiresk...@yahoo.com How come they didnt bring silver as well? Dan Nave na...@comcast.net wrote: The wise men brought gifts of gold, frankincense, and myrrh... debbiegerar...@comcast.net wrote: Can I throw my two cents worth in alsothe frankencise, mryth, and one other bought by the wise men to the baby Christ are known antifungals toodebbie -- Original message -- From: Marshall Dudley There are many websites that make the following claim: Silver is also mentioned in the Bible -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.5/335 - Release Date: 5/9/2006 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.! org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour Carol Ann ___ The Pessimist complains about the Wind; The Optimist expects it to change; The Realist adjusts the Sails. - The world needs more sailors. Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one click on Yahoo! FareChase Carol Ann ___ The Pessimist complains about the Wind; The Optimist expects it to change; The Realist adjusts the Sails. - The world needs more sailors. New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big.
RE: CSWD 40 Warning
Hey, Cool!
But I think I'll forgo the pleasures of 'smearing' myself with WD, most
hand and body lotions, etc. I did once take an inadvertent bath in warm
(quite warm!) hydraulic fluid, but didn't have poison oak at the time so
can't report on its efficacy for that application (eeww!) A serious search
for the chemistry of the petroleum distillates in WD or any other mouse
milk might be pursued through the society of petroleum engineers who
almost certainly have a website devoted to generic descriptions of such
stuff. Proprietary and patented; Proprietary ... and ... patented; I know
I've heard that phrase before. I think it was the lady trying to sell me
some kind of blemish or hair remover at Macy's bodycare counter, or maybe
it was a new butter substitute. Ahh, well, guess I need a memory
improvement creme.g
{I know, Mike, I know. I'm sorry, and I won't do it again. I just lost
control there for an instant. It's spring, and the realm of reason just
drifted off somewhere . . . . . . . leaving me;}
Immersed in the Vernal
Malcolm
At 12:59 PM 5/8/06 -0700, you wrote:
Hi Malcolm.
Ya know, you're right, the topic has left the realm of reason. Regardless
of warnings to be careful, or cautious, people are gonna do what they do,
just because it seems to works and its what they've always done. Lot of
things work...how is the question. Smear yourself with WD40 or diesel
fuel if it works for you. Someone told me that WD40 has ingredients that
are not listed because it is proprietory and patented. Now, iffen you
ever find out the entire list of ingredients, pleasefeel free to post
them.
Malcolm Stebbins s...@asis.com wrote:
Known Toxins?? Considering the Extremely common use of WD 40
for its intended purposes and the so-far Total lack of cites ( ... other
than hearsay testimonials, of course) for its imputed toxicity, coupled
with the many claims for damages brought against manufacturers of safer
choices for arthritic insults, the topic has left the realm of reason
for the arena of the language wars. Its location on the silver list is moot.
At 01:57 PM 5/6/06 -0700, you wrote:
Ed, JBB, venerable Moderator Mike,
Since the subject of WD40 as a benign remedy for Arthritis etc. was
brought forth for discussion on the Open CS list moving it to the OT
would be a diservice to those who might be led or left with the
impression that suggesting such a remedy is safe and without
ramifications. mho.
It would be prudent for anyone suggesting or condoning such a remedy to
provide something, anything, other than heresay testimonials
that would refute the obvious danger of using known toxins to improve
a condition that is treatable with safer choices.
Carol Ann
Ed Kasper edkas...@pacbell.net wrote:
JBB, I think it moves your point that we should have
discussions like this so that truth and reality are exposed.
People and good intending folks should freely hear and
discuss all matters including urban legends. I find it
commendable that someone fires a warning shot when they
suspect another is not acting reasonable. We should not be
afraid of discussions, and opinions, no matter how long
winded, boring and irrelevant I may think they are...
Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist
Santa Cruz, CA.
-Original Message-
I think that our excellent moderator, Mike, might want to
keep a close
eye on discussions of this kind, for exactly the reasons you
site
below. I can not image anyone using a product with
petroleum
distillates on the skin for medical purposes, and
particularly not on a
routine basis. We need to be careful about discussions of
this kind,
which should go on the Off Topic list.
JBB
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RE: CSWD 40 Warning
My God, she's right! The stuff's addictive. Vern At 05:48 PM 5/8/06 -0400, you wrote: Gotta thank you guys! I was reminded to pick up a 2 pak of WD40 today. Don't want to be without it! Chuck Whenever you're holding all the cards, why does everyone else turn out to be playing chess? Hi Malcolm. Ya know, you're right, the topic has left the realm of reason. Regardless of warnings to be careful, or cautious, people are gonna do what they do, just because it seems to works and its what they've always done. Lot of things work...how is the question. Smear yourself with WD40 or diesel fuel if it works for you. Someone told me that WD40 has ingredients that are not listed because it is proprietory and patented. Now, iffen you ever find out the entire list of ingredients, pleasefeel free to post them. -- List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.5/334 - Release Date: 5/8/06 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.5/334 - Release Date: 5/8/06 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSWD 40 Warning
Malcolm Stebbins wrote: Hi Jonathan, and others, How do you (generic 'you') think the beneficial antibacterial etc., effects of CS were first discovered? Government labs? Large pharma companies? Not Likely! Since the first mention of Silver to kill pathogens is mentioned in the Bible, and by Aristotle, I suspect that information probably came from the gods (masters) of that time. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSWD 40 Warning
Hi Malcolm. Ya know, you're right, the topic has left the realm of reason. Regardless of warnings to be careful, or cautious, people are gonna do what they do, just because it seems to works and its what they've always done. Lot of things work...how is the question. Smear yourself with WD40 or diesel fuel if it works for you. Someone told me that WD40 has ingredients that are not listed because it is proprietory and patented. Now, iffen you ever find out the entire list of ingredients, pleasefeel free to post them. Malcolm Stebbins s...@asis.com wrote: Known Toxins?? Considering the Extremely common use of WD 40 for its intended purposes and the so-far Total lack of cites ( ... other than hearsay testimonials, of course) for its imputed toxicity, coupled with the many claims for damages brought against manufacturers of safer choices for arthritic insults, the topic has left the realm of reason for the arena of the language wars. Its location on the silver list is moot. At 01:57 PM 5/6/06 -0700, you wrote: Ed, JBB, venerable Moderator Mike, Since the subject of WD40 as a benign remedy for Arthritis etc. was brought forth for discussion on the Open CS list moving it to the OT would be a diservice to those who might be led or left with the impression that suggesting such a remedy is safe and without ramifications. mho. It would be prudent for anyone suggesting or condoning such a remedy to provide something, anything, other than heresay testimonials that would refute the obvious danger of using known toxins to improve a condition that is treatable with safer choices. Carol Ann Ed Kasper edkas...@pacbell.net wrote: JBB, I think it moves your point that we should have discussions like this so that truth and reality are exposed. People and good intending folks should freely hear and discuss all matters including urban legends. I find it commendable that someone fires a warning shot when they suspect another is not acting reasonable. We should not be afraid of discussions, and opinions, no matter how long winded, boring and irrelevant I may think they are... Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- I think that our excellent moderator, Mike, might want to keep a close eye on discussions of this kind, for exactly the reasons you site below. I can not image anyone using a product with petroleum distillates on the skin for medical purposes, and particularly not on a routine basis. We need to be careful about discussions of this kind, which should go on the Off Topic list. JBB -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour Carol Ann ___ The Pessimist complains about the Wind; The Optimist expects it to change; Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.5/333 - Release Date: 5/5/06 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.5/333 - Release Date: 5/5/06 Carol Ann ___ The Pessimist complains about the Wind; The Optimist expects it to change; The Realist adjusts the Sails. - The world needs more sailors. - Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less.
RE: CSWD 40 Warning
Gotta thank you guys! I was reminded to pick up a 2 pak of WD40 today. Don't want to be without it! Chuck Whenever you're holding all the cards, why does everyone else turn out to be playing chess? Hi Malcolm. Ya know, you're right, the topic has left the realm of reason. Regardless of warnings to be careful, or cautious, people are gonna do what they do, just because it seems to works and its what they've always done. Lot of things work...how is the question. Smear yourself with WD40 or diesel fuel if it works for you. Someone told me that WD40 has ingredients that are not listed because it is proprietory and patented. Now, iffen you ever find out the entire list of ingredients, pleasefeel free to post them. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSWD 40 Warning
Marshall San, This is very interesting. If you have time to elaborate, I am sure list members would welcome the education. JBB Since the first mention of Silver to kill pathogens is mentioned in the Bible, and by Aristotle, I suspect that information probably came from the gods (masters) of that time. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Interestingly, I read just yesterday, in Kevin Phillp's excellent book American Theocracy, American Indian people recommended that Revolutionary War soldiers use oil to treat frostbite. (Oil comes up out of the ground in pools naturally in some locations.) No details about this, alas. JBB On Tuesday, May 9, 2006, at 04:59 Asia/Tokyo, Carol Ann wrote: Hi Malcolm. Ya know, you're right, the topic has left the realm of reason. Regardless of warnings to be careful, or cautious, people are gonna do what they do, just because it seems to works and its what they've always done. Lot of things work...how is the question. Smear yourself with WD40 or diesel fuel if it works for you. Someone told me that WD40 has ingredients that are not listed because it is proprietory and patented. Now, iffen you ever find out the entire list of ingredients, pleasefeel free to post them. Malcolm Stebbins s...@asis.com wrote: Known Toxins?? Considering the Extremely common use of WD 40 for its intended purposes and the so-far Total lack of cites ( ... other than hearsay testimonials, of course) for its imputed toxicity, coupled with the many claims for damages brought against manufacturers of safer choices for arthritic insults, the topic has left the realm of reason for the arena of the language wars. Its location on the silver list is moot. At 01:57 PM 5/6/06 -0700, you wrote: Ed, JBB, venerable Moderator Mike, Since the subject of WD40 as a benign remedy for Arthritis etc. was brought forth for discussion on the Open CS list moving it to the OT would be a diservice to those who might be led or left with the impression that suggesting such a remedy is safe and without ramifications. mho. It would be prudent for anyone suggesting or condoning such a remedy to provide something, anything, other than heresay testimonials that would refute the obvious danger of using known toxins to improve a condition that is treatable with safer choices. Carol Ann Ed Kasper edkas...@pacbell.net wrote: JBB, I think it moves your point that we should have discussions like this so that truth and reality are exposed. People and good intending folks should freely hear and discuss all matters including urban legends. I find it commendable that someone fires a warning shot when they suspect another is not acting reasonable. We should not be afraid of discussions, and opinions, no matter how long winded, boring and irrelevant I may think they are... Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- I think that our excellent moderator, Mike, might want to keep a close eye on discussions of this kind, for exactly the reasons you site below. I can not image anyone using a product with petroleum distillates on the skin for medical purposes, and particularly not on a routine basis. We need to be careful about discussions of this kind, which should go on the Off Topic list. JBB -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour Carol Ann ___ The Pessimist complains about the Wind; The Optimist expects it to change; Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.5/333 - Release Date: 5/5/06 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.5/333 - Release Date: 5/5/06 Carol Ann ___ The Pessimist complains about the Wind; The Optimist expects it to change; The Realist adjusts the Sails. - The world needs more sailors. image.tiff Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less.
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For what it's worth, I've used both kerosene and diesel on skin rashes due to poison oak; diesel works very well, far better than any other remedy (?) I've tried. I speculate this is due to it's solvent ability to pull or perhaps sequester the volatile oils of the Rhus plant and promote their evaporation along with the diesel. WD contains not only hydrocarbon solvents but also some waxes which remain after the solvents evaporate, thus providing some cover-protection from corrosion. What this does for my relatively non-metallic skin I couldn't say. g At 12:57 PM 5/5/06 -0700, you wrote: There is space given to the wd40 recommendation in a Readers Digest publication they are currently mailing out. - Original Message - From: Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 1:45 AM Subject: CSWD 40 Warning There has been talk here about using WD 40 on the skin. Please see the link below. http://www.camd.lsu.edu/msds/w/wd_40.htm NB there is no mention of DMSO, which someone suggested might be an ingredient. I think it would be quite risky to expose oneself to this product. JBB -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.6/324 - Release Date: 4/25/06 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.5/333 - Release Date: 5/5/06
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Hi Jonathan, and others, I'd like to offer some comments on the subject, not only relating to WD but to discussions of this kind generally; I value them. I use WD 40 regularly for its intended purposes, contact with my skin and no doubt my lungs via nasal passages, is common, and unavoidable. I have also discovered that 'application' of other petroleum products,specifically diesel for one, despite the current outcries of its evils is helpful in eliminating the rash of poison oak (rhus diversiloba). Hey, whaddya know, it works! (well, for me.) People find things out by trying them, and noticing the results; that's not irresponsible. Condemning or condoning on the basis of opinion only is irresponsible. How do you (generic 'you') think the beneficial antibacterial etc., effects of CS were first discovered? Government labs? Large pharma companies? Not Likely! I hadda put that in, not to keep the Dreaded Mike from eating me alive, g but to point out that we're the beneficiaries of just this sort of anecdotal shenanigans. We CS listers specifically. We may not have the whole story at first - or ever - but that's hardly reason to disparage the observations. Folklore, after all, should not be considered a pejorative. Quackwatch OTOH, is another matter. By the bye, I just reviewed the list depending from the hazmap ref. below; it includes isopropyl alcohol (e.g. rubbing alcohol), ethyl alcohol (booze), gasoline (but not tetraethyl lead), many chlorinated and/or aromatic hydrocarbons of course, but nary a mention of the quantities considered harmful which range from a few ounces to even the smallest amounts, nor the route of exposure. In other words as is the case for many cites it is an inappropriate tool for most purposes, including the purposes of this discussion. Yours for clarity, Petroleum Jelly At 01:42 PM 5/6/06 +0900, you wrote: I think that our excellent moderator, Mike, might want to keep a close eye on discussions of this kind, for exactly the reasons you site below. I can not image anyone using a product with petroleum distillates on the skin for medical purposes, and particularly not on a routine basis. We need to be careful about discussions of this kind, which should go on the Off Topic list. JBB On Saturday, May 6, 2006, at 02:16 Asia/Tokyo, Carol Ann wrote: Truthfully, Jonathan. If someone were to post a Quack Watch warning or advisement that enthusiastic proponents of Colloidal Silver also consider if not outright advise using WD-40 for the treatment of arthritis and rheumatism I would not fault them. One wonders why alt health has a difficult time recovering from and/or avoiding a bad reputation. Such recommendations, even by association, puts CS in the same medical category as WD-40Folklore. Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp wrote: See also: http://hazmap.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/hazmap_generic?tbl=TblDiseasesid=326 JBB On Friday, May 5, 2006, at 17:45 Asia/Tokyo, Jonathan B. Britten wrote: There has been talk here about using WD 40 on the skin. Please see the link below. http://www.camd.lsu.edu/msds/w/wd_40.htm NB there is no mention of DMSO, which someone suggested might be an ingredient. I think it would be quite risky to expose oneself to this product. JBB -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour Carol Ann ___ The Pessimist complains about the Wind; The Optimist expects it to change; The Realist adjusts the Sails. - The world needs more sailors. image.tiff Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.5/333 - Release Date: 5/5/06 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.5/333 - Release Date: 5/5/06
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Known Toxins?? Considering the Extremely common use of WD 40 for its intended purposes and the so-far Total lack of cites ( ... other than hearsay testimonials, of course) for its imputed toxicity, coupled with the many claims for damages brought against manufacturers of safer choices for arthritic insults, the topic has left the realm of reason for the arena of the language wars. Its location on the silver list is moot. At 01:57 PM 5/6/06 -0700, you wrote: Ed, JBB, venerable Moderator Mike, Since the subject of WD40 as a benign remedy for Arthritis etc. was brought forth for discussion on the Open CS list moving it to the OT would be a diservice to those who might be led or left with the impression that suggesting such a remedy is safe and without ramifications. mho. It would be prudent for anyone suggesting or condoning such a remedy to provide something, anything, other than heresay testimonials that would refute the obvious danger of using known toxins to improve a condition that is treatable with safer choices. Carol Ann Ed Kasper edkas...@pacbell.net wrote: JBB, I think it moves your point that we should have discussions like this so that truth and reality are exposed. People and good intending folks should freely hear and discuss all matters including urban legends. I find it commendable that someone fires a warning shot when they suspect another is not acting reasonable. We should not be afraid of discussions, and opinions, no matter how long winded, boring and irrelevant I may think they are... Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- I think that our excellent moderator, Mike, might want to keep a close eye on discussions of this kind, for exactly the reasons you site below. I can not image anyone using a product with petroleum distillates on the skin for medical purposes, and particularly not on a routine basis. We need to be careful about discussions of this kind, which should go on the Off Topic list. JBB -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour Carol Ann ___ The Pessimist complains about the Wind; The Optimist expects it to change; Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make http://us.rd.yahoo.com/mail_us/taglines/postman2/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=39663/*http://voice.yahoo.comPC-to-Phone Calls using Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.5/333 - Release Date: 5/5/06 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.5/333 - Release Date: 5/5/06
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Ed, I agree with you, and don't favor censorship. My thought, perhaps poorly expressed, was that the moderator might, at minimum, want to be very sure that dubious and potentially dangerous information does not pass by without some response. There is a great deal I don't know about chemistry and related topics and terminology. For example, I would think nicotinamide, a necessary nutrient, would be directly related to nicotine, a deadly toxin, but I am told (by a respected MD I know) that it is not so. Similarly, I'd think Vaseline petroleum jelly would be toxic, but I read the inventor of the stuff took a tablespoon a day and attributed his long life -- past 90 -- to the practice. On that note, then, I am willing to be educated if someone can tell me that the petroleum distillates in WD 40 are not harmful. I wouldn't take a chance on it myself; I'd bet on liver damage and possibly carcinogenic effects. That's why I replied. Best, JBB On Sunday, May 7, 2006, at 00:12 Asia/Tokyo, Ed Kasper wrote: JBB, I think it moves your point that we should have discussions like this so that truth and reality are exposed. People and good intending folks should freely hear and discuss all matters including urban legends. I find it commendable that someone fires a warning shot when they suspect another is not acting reasonable. We should not be afraid of discussions, and opinions, no matter how long winded, boring and irrelevant I may think they are... Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- I think that our excellent moderator, Mike, might want to keep a close eye on discussions of this kind, for exactly the reasons you site below. I can not image anyone using a product with petroleum distillates on the skin for medical purposes, and particularly not on a routine basis. We need to be careful about discussions of this kind, which should go on the Off Topic list. JBB -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Jonathan, Ed, I do keep an eye on things and jump in when I hear something I can identify as risky... But I very seldom have to do so because other list members usually do the job of pointing out potential hazards before I do, as they have in this thread. Be well, Mike D. JBB, I think it moves your point that we should have discussions like this so that truth and reality are exposed. People and good intending folks should freely hear and discuss all matters including urban legends. I find it commendable that someone fires a warning shot when they suspect another is not acting reasonable. We should not be afraid of discussions, and opinions, no matter how long winded, boring and irrelevant I may think they are... Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- I think that our excellent moderator, Mike, might want to keep a close eye on discussions of this kind, for exactly the reasons you site below. I can not image anyone using a product with petroleum distillates on the skin for medical purposes, and particularly not on a routine basis. We need to be careful about discussions of this kind, which should go on the Off Topic list. JBB [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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JBB, I think it moves your point that we should have discussions like this so that truth and reality are exposed. People and good intending folks should freely hear and discuss all matters including urban legends. I find it commendable that someone fires a warning shot when they suspect another is not acting reasonable. We should not be afraid of discussions, and opinions, no matter how long winded, boring and irrelevant I may think they are... Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- I think that our excellent moderator, Mike, might want to keep a close eye on discussions of this kind, for exactly the reasons you site below. I can not image anyone using a product with petroleum distillates on the skin for medical purposes, and particularly not on a routine basis. We need to be careful about discussions of this kind, which should go on the Off Topic list. JBB -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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The teaser advertising the book looks like they are in favor of wd40. I did not buy the book. In past years RD was more ethical than average. RD once refused to run an adv until the price of the product was lowered to what RD considered was reasonable. - Original Message - From: Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 9:44 PM Subject: Re: CSWD 40 Warning And their opinion about this practice is . . . . ? Please advise. JBB On Saturday, May 6, 2006, at 04:57 Asia/Tokyo, James McCourt, Ph.D. wrote: There is space given to the wd40 recommendation in a Readers Digest publication they are currently mailing out. - Original Message - From: Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 1:45 AM Subject: CSWD 40 Warning There has been talk here about using WD 40 on the skin. Please see the link below. http://www.camd.lsu.edu/msds/w/wd_40.htm NB there is no mention of DMSO, which someone suggested might be an ingredient. I think it would be quite risky to expose oneself to this product. JBB -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Ed, JBB, venerable Moderator Mike, Since the subject of WD40 as a benign remedy for Arthritis etc. was brought forth for discussion on the Open CS list moving it to the OT would be a diservice to those who might be led or left with the impression that suggesting such a remedy is safe and without ramifications. mho. It would be prudent for anyone suggesting or condoning such a remedy to provide something, anything, other than heresay testimonials that would refute the obvious danger of using known toxins to improve a condition that is treatable with safer choices. Carol Ann Ed Kasper edkas...@pacbell.net wrote: JBB, I think it moves your point that we should have discussions like this so that truth and reality are exposed. People and good intending folks should freely hear and discuss all matters including urban legends. I find it commendable that someone fires a warning shot when they suspect another is not acting reasonable. We should not be afraid of discussions, and opinions, no matter how long winded, boring and irrelevant I may think they are... Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- I think that our excellent moderator, Mike, might want to keep a close eye on discussions of this kind, for exactly the reasons you site below. I can not image anyone using a product with petroleum distillates on the skin for medical purposes, and particularly not on a routine basis. We need to be careful about discussions of this kind, which should go on the Off Topic list. JBB -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour Carol Ann ___ The Pessimist complains about the Wind; The Optimist expects it to change; The Realist adjusts the Sails. - The world needs more sailors. - Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Yahoo! Messenger with Voice.
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See also: http://hazmap.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/hazmap_generic?tbl=TblDiseasesid=326 JBB On Friday, May 5, 2006, at 17:45 Asia/Tokyo, Jonathan B. Britten wrote: There has been talk here about using WD 40 on the skin. Please see the link below. http://www.camd.lsu.edu/msds/w/wd_40.htm NB there is no mention of DMSO, which someone suggested might be an ingredient. I think it would be quite risky to expose oneself to this product. JBB -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Risky would be putting it mildly. Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp wrote: See also: http://hazmap.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/hazmap_generic?tbl=TblDiseasesid=326 JBB On Friday, May 5, 2006, at 17:45 Asia/Tokyo, Jonathan B. Britten wrote: There has been talk here about using WD 40 on the skin. Please see the link below. http://www.camd.lsu.edu/msds/w/wd_40.htm NB there is no mention of DMSO, which someone suggested might be an ingredient. I think it would be quite risky to expose oneself to this product. JBB -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour Carol Ann ___ The Pessimist complains about the Wind; The Optimist expects it to change; The Realist adjusts the Sails. - The world needs more sailors. - Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates.
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I am confused. What does this have to do with WD-40? It is for benzene, toluene, xylene, styrene, methyl chloroform (1-1-1-trichloroethane), and dimethylformamide; [ACGIH] and I don't recall any of those being in WD-40. Marshall Carol Ann wrote: Risky would be putting it mildly. Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp wrote: See also: http://haz ap.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/hazmap_generic?tbl=TblDiseasesid=326 JBB On Friday, May 5, 2006, at 17:45 Asia/Tokyo, Jonathan B. Britten wrote: There has been talk here about using WD 40 on the skin. Please see the link below. http://www.camd.lsu.edu/msds/w/wd_40.htm NB there is no mention of DMSO, which someone suggested might be an ingredient. I think it would be quite risky to expose oneself to this product. JBB -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour Carol Ann ___The Pessimist complains about the Wind; The Optimist expects it to change; The Realist adjusts the Sails. - The world needs more sailors. --- Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates.
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http://www.virginia.edu/uvaprint/MSDS%20DIR/PDF%20FILES/WD-40.pdf http://yarchive.net/chem/wd40.html Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: I am confused. What does this have to do with WD-40? It is for benzene, toluene, xylene, styrene, methyl chloroform (1-1-1-trichloroethane), and dimethylformamide; [ACGIH] and I don't recall any of those being in WD-40. Marshall Carol Ann wrote: Risky would be putting it mildly. Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp wrote: See also: http://hazmap.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/hazmap_generic?tbl=TblDiseasesid=326 JBB On Friday, May 5, 2006, at 17:45 Asia/Tokyo, Jonathan B. Britten wrote: There has been talk here about using WD 40 on the skin. Please see the link below. http://www.camd.lsu.edu/msds/w/wd_40.htm NB there is no mention of DMSO, which someone suggested might be an ingredient. I think it would be quite risky to expose oneself to this product. JBB -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour Carol Ann ___The Pessimist complains about the Wind; The Optimist expects it to change; The Realist adjusts the Sails. - The world needs more sailors. - Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. Carol Ann ___ The Pessimist complains about the Wind; The Optimist expects it to change; The Realist adjusts the Sails. - The world needs more sailors. - Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Yahoo! Messenger with Voice.
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Marshall, I dont see how anyone would consider or suggest seriously WD-40 for medicinal purposes, topical or otherwise. The skin happens to be the most systemic and highly efficient method of introduction and penetration. Such a recommendation is beyond my logic and reasoning. Akin to saying don't use Sweet and Low or Aspertame, use Splenda instead. Or taking the little purple pill which as a trade off for the condition its designed to aleviate gives symptoms such as vomiting, nausea, heat problems etc. Carol Ann saffiresk...@yahoo.com wrote: http://www.virginia.edu/uvaprint/MSDS%20DIR/PDF%20FILES/WD-40.pdf http://yarchive.net/chem/wd40.html Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: I am confused. What does this have to do with WD-40? It is for benzene, toluene, xylene, styrene, methyl chloroform (1-1-1-trichloroethane), and dimethylformamide; [ACGIH] and I don't recall any of those being in WD-40. Marshall Carol Ann wrote: Risky would be putting it mildly. Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp wrote: See also: http://hazmap.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/hazmap_generic?tbl=TblDiseasesid=326 JBB On Friday, May 5, 2006, at 17:45 Asia/Tokyo, Jonathan B. Britten wrote: There has been talk here about using WD 40 on the skin. Please see the link below. http://www.camd.lsu.edu/msds/w/wd_40.htm NB there is no mention of DMSO, which someone suggested might be an ingredient. I think it would be quite risky to expose oneself to this product. JBB -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour Carol Ann ___The Pessimist complains about the Wind; The Optimist expects it to change; The Realist adjusts the Sails. - The world needs more sailors. - Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. Carol Ann ___ The Pessimist complains about the Wind; The Optimist expects it to change; The Realist adjusts the Sails. - The world needs more sailors. - Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Carol Ann ___ The Pessimist complains about the Wind; The Optimist expects it to change; The Realist adjusts the Sails. - The world needs more sailors. - Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one click on Yahoo! FareChase
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http://arthritis.about.com/od/alternativetreatments/f/wd40.htm OR Simply get off their sedentary butts and try some good ole fashioned exercise instead to oil and grease those creaky, squeaky joints and bound ligaments. http://www.malehealthcenter.com/p_exercise.html The health benefits of any association with WD-40 are for employees only via health insurance benefits. http://contracts.corporate.findlaw.com/agreements/wd40/tranchina.emp.1999.08.02.html Carol Ann saffiresk...@yahoo.com wrote: http://www.virginia.edu/uvaprint/MSDS%20DIR/PDF%20FILES/WD-40.pdf http://yarchive.net/chem/wd40.html Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: I am confused. What does this have to do with WD-40? It is for benzene, toluene, xylene, styrene, methyl chloroform (1-1-1-trichloroethane), and dimethylformamide; [ACGIH] and I don't recall any of those being in WD-40. Marshall Carol Ann wrote: Risky would be putting it mildly. Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp wrote: See also: http://hazmap.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/hazmap_generic?tbl=TblDiseasesid=326 JBB On Friday, May 5, 2006, at 17:45 Asia/Tokyo, Jonathan B. Britten wrote: There has been talk here about using WD 40 on the skin. Please see the link below. http://www.camd.lsu.edu/msds/w/wd_40.htm NB there is no mention of DMSO, which someone suggested might be an ingredient. I think it would be quite risky to expose oneself to this product. JBB -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour Carol Ann ___The Pessimist complains about the Wind; The Optimist expects it to change; The Realist adjusts the Sails. - The world needs more sailors. - Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. Carol Ann ___ The Pessimist complains about the Wind; The Optimist expects it to change; The Realist adjusts the Sails. - The world needs more sailors. - Blab-away for as little as 1�/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Carol Ann ___ The Pessimist complains about the Wind; The Optimist expects it to change; The Realist adjusts the Sails. - The world needs more sailors. - Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one click on Yahoo! FareChase
Re: CSWD 40 Warning
Truthfully, Jonathan. If someone were to post a Quack Watch warning or advisement that enthusiastic proponents of Colloidal Silver also consider if not outright advise using WD-40 for the treatment of arthritis and rheumatism I would not fault them. One wonders why alt health has a difficult time recovering from and/or avoiding a bad reputation. Such recommendations, even by association, puts CS in the same medical category as WD-40Folklore. Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp wrote: See also: http://hazmap.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/hazmap_generic?tbl=TblDiseasesid=326 JBB On Friday, May 5, 2006, at 17:45 Asia/Tokyo, Jonathan B. Britten wrote: There has been talk here about using WD 40 on the skin. Please see the link below. http://www.camd.lsu.edu/msds/w/wd_40.htm NB there is no mention of DMSO, which someone suggested might be an ingredient. I think it would be quite risky to expose oneself to this product. JBB -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour Carol Ann ___ The Pessimist complains about the Wind; The Optimist expects it to change; The Realist adjusts the Sails. - The world needs more sailors. - Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less.
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Hi Jonathan, I have put it on my skin, because nothing else would give relief when I was getting an itchy spot, the more I scratched the more it itched until it would be raw and then it would itch some more. Tried all sorts of things nothing would stop the itch. So I finally tried the WD40 on it and it relived the itch considerably. Tha was over a year ago. I have since discovered the itch was due to a wheat(bread) alergy at the time. I stopped the wehat and the itch stopped. doesnt happen any more now. I heard the WD40 has varnish or laquer in it and maybe fish oil. Not good to use on guns as it builds up a residue Take care, V http://www.health-freedom.info/ There has been talk here about using WD 40 on the skin. Please see the link below. http://www.camd.lsu.edu/msds/w/wd_40.htm NB there is no mention of DMSO, which someone suggested might be an ingredient. I think it would be quite risky to expose oneself to this product. JBB -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com --
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It also degrades the primers. WD 40 is very high in sulfur and thus is used by mechanics to aid in arthritis problems. From: V vzo...@yahoo.com Date: 2006/05/05 Fri PM 03:00:38 EDT To: Jonathan B. Britten silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSWD 40 Warning Hi Jonathan, I have put it on my skin, because nothing else would give relief when I was getting an itchy spot, the more I scratched the more it itched until it would be raw and then it would itch some more. Tried all sorts of things nothing would stop the itch. So I finally tried the WD40 on it and it relived the itch considerably. Tha was over a year ago. I have since discovered the itch was due to a wheat(bread) alergy at the time. I stopped the wehat and the itch stopped. doesnt happen any more now. I heard the WD40 has varnish or laquer in it and maybe fish oil. Not good to use on guns as it builds up a residue Take care, V http://www.health-freedom.info/ There has been talk here about using WD 40 on the skin. Please see the link below. http://www.camd.lsu.edu/msds/w/wd_40.htm NB there is no mention of DMSO, which someone suggested might be an ingredient. I think it would be quite risky to expose oneself to this product. JBB -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com --
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There is space given to the wd40 recommendation in a Readers Digest publication they are currently mailing out. - Original Message - From: Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 1:45 AM Subject: CSWD 40 Warning There has been talk here about using WD 40 on the skin. Please see the link below. http://www.camd.lsu.edu/msds/w/wd_40.htm NB there is no mention of DMSO, which someone suggested might be an ingredient. I think it would be quite risky to expose oneself to this product. JBB -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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I think that our excellent moderator, Mike, might want to keep a close eye on discussions of this kind, for exactly the reasons you site below. I can not image anyone using a product with petroleum distillates on the skin for medical purposes, and particularly not on a routine basis. We need to be careful about discussions of this kind, which should go on the Off Topic list. JBB On Saturday, May 6, 2006, at 02:16 Asia/Tokyo, Carol Ann wrote: Truthfully, Jonathan. If someone were to post a Quack Watch warning or advisement that enthusiastic proponents of Colloidal Silver also consider if not outright advise using WD-40 for the treatment of arthritis and rheumatism I would not fault them. One wonders why alt health has a difficult time recovering from and/or avoiding a bad reputation. Such recommendations, even by association, puts CS in the same medical category as WD-40Folklore. Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp wrote: See also: http://hazmap.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/hazmap_generic?tbl=TblDiseasesid=326 JBB On Friday, May 5, 2006, at 17:45 Asia/Tokyo, Jonathan B. Britten wrote: There has been talk here about using WD 40 on the skin. Please see the link below. http://www.camd.lsu.edu/msds/w/wd_40.htm NB there is no mention of DMSO, which someone suggested might be an ingredient. I think it would be quite risky to expose oneself to this product. JBB -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour Carol Ann ___ The Pessimist complains about the Wind; The Optimist expects it to change; The Realist adjusts the Sails. - The world needs more sailors. image.tiff Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less.
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And their opinion about this practice is . . . . ? Please advise. JBB On Saturday, May 6, 2006, at 04:57 Asia/Tokyo, James McCourt, Ph.D. wrote: There is space given to the wd40 recommendation in a Readers Digest publication they are currently mailing out. - Original Message - From: Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 1:45 AM Subject: CSWD 40 Warning There has been talk here about using WD 40 on the skin. Please see the link below. http://www.camd.lsu.edu/msds/w/wd_40.htm NB there is no mention of DMSO, which someone suggested might be an ingredient. I think it would be quite risky to expose oneself to this product. JBB -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
