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Do you have to have milk when ingesting kefir? I hate milk unfortunately. dee From: Del d...@altsystem.com Organization: Alternative Systems Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 22:54:40 -0400 To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSkefir Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 19:59:54 -0700 Sorry, but I don¹t agree. We make Kefir from raw milk here in Vermont, and I was using Kefir grains for the first few years, but they were a lot of trouble and never made very good kefir as far as I was concerned. I finally threw out the grains, which were multiplying out of control, and making kefir that did not taste good, and instead started using this kefir starter. Now I get thick, delicious kefir every time: http://www.amazon.com/Yogourmet-Freeze-Dried-Kefir-Starter/dp/B001EO69O2/ref =sr_1_sc_1?ie=UTF8qid=1344221466sr=8-1-spellkeywords=kefir+started This is the real stuff, it does what we want it to do for our insides, and it is much easier to make than using the grains, which I found to be very temperamental and a lot of trouble. Del From: Zoe W mailto:mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2012 4:26 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSkefir http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Kefir_making/ This is your best source of info and of the grains do not be fooled by the folks who try to sell you the powder that you have to keep on buying. Kefir grains GROW so you will never run out and have plenty to share over time. zoe From: Kathy Tankersley babychicks...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, 5 August 2012, 16:06 Subject: CSkefir Hi, anoe know anything about kefir? Do you take it, how do you make it?, Good purchase place? Thanks for the info, Kathy
Re: CSkefir
There is something called water kefir. Go to the website that was posted, you will find all you need there. The same person ( Dominic) who put up that website is also the one who started the Yahoo group I mentioned. By definition kefir is fermented milk, so don't know how you could get by without it. zoe From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, 6 August 2012, 7:22 Subject: Re: CSkefir Re: CSkefir Do you have to have milk when ingesting kefir? I hate milk unfortunately. dee From: Del d...@altsystem.com Organization: Alternative Systems Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 22:54:40 -0400 To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSkefir Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 19:59:54 -0700 Sorry, but I don’t agree. We make Kefir from raw milk here in Vermont, and I was using Kefir grains for the first few years, but they were a lot of trouble and never made very good kefir as far as I was concerned. I finally threw out the grains, which were multiplying out of control, and making kefir that did not taste good, and instead started using this kefir starter. Now I get thick, delicious kefir every time: http://www.amazon.com/Yogourmet-Freeze-Dried-Kefir-Starter/dp/B001EO69O2/ref=sr_1_sc_1?ie=UTF8qid=1344221466sr=8-1-spellkeywords=kefir+started This is the real stuff, it does what we want it to do for our insides, and it is much easier to make than using the grains, which I found to be very temperamental and a lot of trouble. Del From: Zoe W mailto:mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2012 4:26 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSkefir http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Kefir_making/ This is your best source of info and of the grains do not be fooled by the folks who try to sell you the powder that you have to keep on buying. Kefir grains GROW so you will never run out and have plenty to share over time. zoe From:Kathy Tankersley babychicks...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, 5 August 2012, 16:06 Subject: CSkefir Hi, anoe know anything about kefir? Do you take it, how do you make it?, Good purchase place? Thanks for the info, Kathy
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Do you have your own raw milk? I live in E. TX and don't know a source. Edith -Original Message- From: Joyce Miller jmillerwo...@gmail.com To: silver-list silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, Aug 5, 2012 10:49 pm Subject: Re: CSkefir Here in Texas, I have not had trouble with my milk kefir grains unless I have been careless with them. The do grow, and I eat the excess growth. I always have a small lump for making milk kefir, and my grains make it in less than 24 hours! I love the taste of the raw milk kefir made from the grains very very much. Sometimes I leave it lumpy thick; other times I put it through a plastic strainer to make it very smooth but thick. Whatever way I do it, it is always thick and delicious. I also feed it to my dogs who are thriving on it. My grains have been with me for a long time. And if they were to have a problem, I would get more grains. Joyce
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Here is the best resource page for finding raw milk anywhere in the US. Click on your state. http://www.realmilk.com/where.html -- It's all about the Airedales; the 2012 Quilts are coming soon; be ready to donate to the 2012 Quilt Project. All proceeds from this group that started in 1998 go to Airedale Rescue!!! . . . and you could end up with an exquisite quilt or wall hanging! . http://www.airedalerescue.net/alphabet/a_is_for_airedale/patterns/ http://dearjubilee-joyce.blogspot.com http://www.jubileepuppies.blogspot.com/
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Does it diminish the quality of raw milk if you freeze it in pint jars? Edith -Original Message- From: Joyce Miller jmillerwo...@gmail.com To: silver-list silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, Aug 6, 2012 7:22 am Subject: Re: CSkefir Here is the best resource page for finding raw milk anywhere in the US. Click on your state. http://www.realmilk.com/where.html -- It's all about the Airedales; the 2012 Quilts are coming soon; be ready to donate to the 2012 Quilt Project. All proceeds from this group that started in 1998 go to Airedale Rescue!!! . . . and you could end up with an exquisite quilt or wall hanging! . http://www.airedalerescue.net/alphabet/a_is_for_airedale/patterns/ http://dearjubilee-joyce.blogspot.com http://www.jubileepuppies.blogspot.com/
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I wouldn't think so: it is still way better than pasteurized milk. Joyce On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 7:43 AM, ejohns9...@aol.com wrote: Does it diminish the quality of raw milk if you freeze it in pint jars? Edith -Original Message- From: Joyce Miller jmillerwo...@gmail.com To: silver-list silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, Aug 6, 2012 7:22 am Subject: Re: CSkefir Here is the best resource page for finding raw milk anywhere in the US. Click on your state. http://www.realmilk.com/where.html -- It's all about the Airedales; the 2012 Quilts are coming soon; be ready to donate to the 2012 Quilt Project. All proceeds from this group that started in 1998 go to Airedale Rescue!!! . . . and you could end up with an exquisite quilt or wall hanging! . http://www.airedalerescue.net/alphabet/a_is_for_airedale/patterns/ http://dearjubilee-joyce.blogspot.com http://www.jubileepuppies.blogspot.com/ -- It's all about the Airedales; the 2012 Quilts are coming soon; be ready to donate to the 2012 Quilt Project. All proceeds from this group that started in 1998 go to Airedale Rescue!!! . . . and you could end up with an exquisite quilt or wall hanging! . http://www.airedalerescue.net/alphabet/a_is_for_airedale/patterns/ http://dearjubilee-joyce.blogspot.com http://www.jubileepuppies.blogspot.com/
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and it costs 99.99 dollars per package!!! How much stuff is in there? stunned hg - Original Message - From: Del d...@altsystem.com Date: Sunday, August 5, 2012 9:56 pm Subject: Re: CSkefir To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sorry, but I don’t agree. We make Kefir from raw milk here in Vermont, and I was using Kefir grains for the first few years, but they were a lot of trouble and never made very good kefir as far as I was concerned. I finally threw out the grains, which were multiplying out of control, and making kefir that did not taste good, and instead started using this kefir starter. Now I get thick, delicious kefir every time: http://www.amazon.com/Yogourmet-Freeze-Dried-Kefir- Starter/dp/B001EO69O2/ref=sr_1_sc_1?ie=UTF8qid=1344221466sr=8-1-spellkeywords=kefir+started This is the real stuff, it does what we want it to do for our insides, and it is much easier to make than using the grains, which I found to be very temperamental and a lot of trouble. Del From: Zoe W Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2012 4:26 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSkefir http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Kefir_making/ This is your best source of info and of the grains do not be fooled by the folks who try to sell you the powder that you have to keep on buying. Kefir grains GROW so you will never run out and have plenty to share over time. zoe - --- From: Kathy Tankersley babychicks...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, 5 August 2012, 16:06 Subject: CSkefir Hi, anoe know anything about kefir? Do you take it, how do you make it?, Good purchase place? Thanks for the info, Kathy
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I make my own with my fresh raq goat milk. I let my body dictate how much I drink. Usually I drink it straight, but this time of year, I blend it with peaches into a smoothie. Gayla - Original Message - From: Kathy Tankersley To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2012 1:06 PM Subject: CSkefir Hi, anoe know anything about kefir? Do you take it, how do you make it?, Good purchase place? Thanks for the info, Kathy
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wow that stuff is expensive, I get that exact kefir from my local health food store for maybe $5.00. Elizabeth Williams belzi...@hotmail.com From: h.godav...@shaw.ca To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 09:01:40 -0500 Subject: Re: CSkefir and it costs 99.99 dollars per package!!! How much stuff is in there? stunned hg - Original Message - From: Del d...@altsystem.com Date: Sunday, August 5, 2012 9:56 pm Subject: Re: CSkefir To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sorry, but I don’t agree. We make Kefir from raw milk here in Vermont, and I was using Kefir grains for the first few years, but they were a lot of trouble and never made very good kefir as far as I was concerned. I finally threw out the grains, which were multiplying out of control, and making kefir that did not taste good, and instead started using this kefir starter. Now I get thick, delicious kefir every time: http://www.amazon.com/Yogourmet-Freeze-Dried-Kefir- Starter/dp/B001EO69O2/ref=sr_1_sc_1?ie=UTF8qid=1344221466sr=8-1-spellkeywords=kefir+started This is the real stuff, it does what we want it to do for our insides, and it is much easier to make than using the grains, which I found to be very temperamental and a lot of trouble. Del From: Zoe W Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2012 4:26 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSkefir http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Kefir_making/ This is your best source of info and of the grains do not be fooled by the folks who try to sell you the powder that you have to keep on buying. Kefir grains GROW so you will never run out and have plenty to share over time. zoe - --- From: Kathy Tankersley babychicks...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, 5 August 2012, 16:06 Subject: CSkefir Hi, anoe know anything about kefir? Do you take it, how do you make it?, Good purchase place? Thanks for the info, Kathy
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I always freeze extra milk in quart jugs. It seems to be as beneficial as fresh after I defrost it. I make kefir and cheeses with it. Gayla - Original Message - From: Joyce Miller To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 6:42 AM Subject: Re: CSkefir I wouldn't think so: it is still way better than pasteurized milk. Joyce On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 7:43 AM, ejohns9...@aol.com wrote: Does it diminish the quality of raw milk if you freeze it in pint jars? Edith -Original Message- From: Joyce Miller jmillerwo...@gmail.com To: silver-list silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, Aug 6, 2012 7:22 am Subject: Re: CSkefir Here is the best resource page for finding raw milk anywhere in the US. Click on your state. http://www.realmilk.com/where.html -- It's all about the Airedales; the 2012 Quilts are coming soon; be ready to donate to the 2012 Quilt Project. All proceeds from this group that started in 1998 go to Airedale Rescue!!! . . . and you could end up with an exquisite quilt or wall hanging! . http://www.airedalerescue.net/alphabet/a_is_for_airedale/patterns/ http://dearjubilee-joyce.blogspot.com http://www.jubileepuppies.blogspot.com/ -- It's all about the Airedales; the 2012 Quilts are coming soon; be ready to donate to the 2012 Quilt Project. All proceeds from this group that started in 1998 go to Airedale Rescue!!! . . . and you could end up with an exquisite quilt or wall hanging! . http://www.airedalerescue.net/alphabet/a_is_for_airedale/patterns/ http://dearjubilee-joyce.blogspot.com http://www.jubileepuppies.blogspot.com/
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Oh I thought it was grain of some sort. dee From: Zoe W mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 12:53:50 +0100 (BST) To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSkefir Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 04:59:04 -0700 There is something called water kefir. Go to the website that was posted, you will find all you need there. The same person ( Dominic) who put up that website is also the one who started the Yahoo group I mentioned. By definition kefir is fermented milk, so don't know how you could get by without it. zoe From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, 6 August 2012, 7:22 Subject: Re: CSkefir Re: CSkefir Do you have to have milk when ingesting kefir? I hate milk unfortunately. dee From: Del d...@altsystem.com Organization: Alternative Systems Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 22:54:40 -0400 To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSkefir Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 19:59:54 -0700 Sorry, but I don¹t agree. We make Kefir from raw milk here in Vermont, and I was using Kefir grains for the first few years, but they were a lot of trouble and never made very good kefir as far as I was concerned. I finally threw out the grains, which were multiplying out of control, and making kefir that did not taste good, and instead started using this kefir starter. Now I get thick, delicious kefir every time: http://www.amazon.com/Yogourmet-Freeze-Dried-Kefir-Starter/dp/B001EO69O2/ref =sr_1_sc_1?ie=UTF8qid=1344221466sr=8-1-spellkeywords=kefir+started This is the real stuff, it does what we want it to do for our insides, and it is much easier to make than using the grains, which I found to be very temperamental and a lot of trouble. Del From: Zoe W mailto:mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2012 4:26 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSkefir http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Kefir_making/ This is your best source of info and of the grains do not be fooled by the folks who try to sell you the powder that you have to keep on buying. Kefir grains GROW so you will never run out and have plenty to share over time. zoe From: Kathy Tankersley babychicks...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, 5 August 2012, 16:06 Subject: CSkefir Hi, anoe know anything about kefir? Do you take it, how do you make it?, Good purchase place? Thanks for the info, Kathy
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Grains are used to ferment the kefir. They are generally strained out before drinking and used for the next batch, When you have enough to spare they CAN be eaten and are quite useful in combating diseases. zoe From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, 6 August 2012, 11:27 Subject: Re: CSkefir Re: CSkefir Oh I thought it was grain of some sort. dee From: Zoe W mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 12:53:50 +0100 (BST) To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSkefir Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 04:59:04 -0700 There is something called water kefir. Go to the website that was posted, you will find all you need there. The same person ( Dominic) who put up that website is also the one who started the Yahoo group I mentioned. By definition kefir is fermented milk, so don't know how you could get by without it. zoe From:Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, 6 August 2012, 7:22 Subject: Re: CSkefir Re: CSkefir Do you have to have milk when ingesting kefir? I hate milk unfortunately. dee From: Del d...@altsystem.com Organization: Alternative Systems Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 22:54:40 -0400 To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSkefir Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 19:59:54 -0700 Sorry, but I don’t agree. We make Kefir from raw milk here in Vermont, and I was using Kefir grains for the first few years, but they were a lot of trouble and never made very good kefir as far as I was concerned. I finally threw out the grains, which were multiplying out of control, and making kefir that did not taste good, and instead started using this kefir starter. Now I get thick, delicious kefir every time: http://www.amazon.com/Yogourmet-Freeze-Dried-Kefir-Starter/dp/B001EO69O2/ref=sr_1_sc_1?ie=UTF8qid=1344221466sr=8-1-spellkeywords=kefir+started This is the real stuff, it does what we want it to do for our insides, and it is much easier to make than using the grains, which I found to be very temperamental and a lot of trouble. Del From: Zoe W mailto:mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2012 4:26 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSkefir http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Kefir_making/ This is your best source of info and of the grains do not be fooled by the folks who try to sell you the powder that you have to keep on buying. Kefir grains GROW so you will never run out and have plenty to share over time. zoe From:Kathy Tankersley babychicks...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, 5 August 2012, 16:06 Subject: CSkefir Hi, anoe know anything about kefir? Do you take it, how do you make it?, Good purchase place? Thanks for the info, Kathy
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Thanks for the info Zoe, but I will stick to whey! dee From: Zoe W mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 16:40:55 +0100 (BST) To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSkefir Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 08:46:09 -0700 Grains are used to ferment the kefir. They are generally strained out before drinking and used for the next batch, When you have enough to spare they CAN be eaten and are quite useful in combating diseases. zoe From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, 6 August 2012, 11:27 Subject: Re: CSkefir Re: CSkefir Oh I thought it was grain of some sort. dee From: Zoe W mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 12:53:50 +0100 (BST) To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSkefir Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 04:59:04 -0700 There is something called water kefir. Go to the website that was posted, you will find all you need there. The same person ( Dominic) who put up that website is also the one who started the Yahoo group I mentioned. By definition kefir is fermented milk, so don't know how you could get by without it. zoe From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, 6 August 2012, 7:22 Subject: Re: CSkefir Re: CSkefir Do you have to have milk when ingesting kefir? I hate milk unfortunately. dee From: Del d...@altsystem.com Organization: Alternative Systems Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 22:54:40 -0400 To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSkefir Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 19:59:54 -0700 Sorry, but I don¹t agree. We make Kefir from raw milk here in Vermont, and I was using Kefir grains for the first few years, but they were a lot of trouble and never made very good kefir as far as I was concerned. I finally threw out the grains, which were multiplying out of control, and making kefir that did not taste good, and instead started using this kefir starter. Now I get thick, delicious kefir every time: http://www.amazon.com/Yogourmet-Freeze-Dried-Kefir-Starter/dp/B001EO69O2/ref =sr_1_sc_1?ie=UTF8qid=1344221466sr=8-1-spellkeywords=kefir+started This is the real stuff, it does what we want it to do for our insides, and it is much easier to make than using the grains, which I found to be very temperamental and a lot of trouble. Del From: Zoe W mailto:mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2012 4:26 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSkefir http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Kefir_making/ This is your best source of info and of the grains do not be fooled by the folks who try to sell you the powder that you have to keep on buying. Kefir grains GROW so you will never run out and have plenty to share over time. zoe From: Kathy Tankersley babychicks...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, 5 August 2012, 16:06 Subject: CSkefir Hi, anoe know anything about kefir? Do you take it, how do you make it?, Good purchase place? Thanks for the info, Kathy
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2012/8/5 Kathy Tankersley babychicks...@gmail.com ** Hi, anoe know anything about kefir? Do you take it, how do you make it?, Good purchase place? Thanks for the info, Kathy Great stuff ! I make kefir of milk for many years and it is a wonderful home made fermentation. There is also kefir of water that it is with water and brown sugar. I also made it in the past but had to stop as we can not drink it all as the production grows very fast. One can do kefir of water with juices. Also do consider reseach about kombucha, one other home made fermentation...
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http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Kefir_making/ This is your best source of info and of the grains do not be fooled by the folks who try to sell you the powder that you have to keep on buying. Kefir grains GROW so you will never run out and have plenty to share over time. zoe From: Kathy Tankersley babychicks...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, 5 August 2012, 16:06 Subject: CSkefir Hi, anoe know anything about kefir? Do you take it, how do you make it?, Good purchase place? Thanks for the info, Kathy
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Renee knows about kefir and she sells great kefir grains quite inexpensively. PT From: Thomas Soares [mailto:thomas.tschoe...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2012 4:19 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSkefir 2012/8/5 Kathy Tankersley babychicks...@gmail.com Hi, anoe know anything about kefir? Do you take it, how do you make it?, Good purchase place? Thanks for the info, Kathy Great stuff ! I make kefir of milk for many years and it is a wonderful home made fermentation. There is also kefir of water that it is with water and brown sugar. I also made it in the past but had to stop as we can not drink it all as the production grows very fast. One can do kefir of water with juices. Also do consider reseach about kombucha, one other home made fermentation... No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5180 - Release Date: 08/05/12 _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5180 - Release Date: 08/05/12
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I also use kefir grains to ferment in goat milk. The yahoo group is fantastic. The grains looklike minature cauliflowers. Many that are part of the Weston A Price groups have kefir and kombucha. They usually are willing to share but the grains can be bought. I had problems with bought grains (dehydrated) getting them to grow. Kefir multiply as they mature and then you can divide and share. My husband likeskefir smoothies with fruit added. Check out http://users.sa.chariot.net.au/~dna/kefirpage.html Good luck. Dianne Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 21:26:13 +0100 From: mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Re: CSkefir To: silver-list@eskimo.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Kefir_making/ This is your best source of info and of the grains do not be fooled by the folks who try to sell you the powder that you have to keep on buying. Kefir grains GROW so you will never run out and have plenty to share over time.zoe From: Kathy Tankersley babychicks...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, 5 August 2012, 16:06 Subject: CSkefir Hi, anoe know anything about kefir? Do you take it, how do you make it?, Good purchase place? Thanks for the info, Kathy
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Sorry, but I don’t agree. We make Kefir from raw milk here in Vermont, and I was using Kefir grains for the first few years, but they were a lot of trouble and never made very good kefir as far as I was concerned. I finally threw out the grains, which were multiplying out of control, and making kefir that did not taste good, and instead started using this kefir starter. Now I get thick, delicious kefir every time: http://www.amazon.com/Yogourmet-Freeze-Dried-Kefir-Starter/dp/B001EO69O2/ref=sr_1_sc_1?ie=UTF8qid=1344221466sr=8-1-spellkeywords=kefir+started This is the real stuff, it does what we want it to do for our insides, and it is much easier to make than using the grains, which I found to be very temperamental and a lot of trouble. Del From: Zoe W Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2012 4:26 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSkefir http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Kefir_making/ This is your best source of info and of the grains do not be fooled by the folks who try to sell you the powder that you have to keep on buying. Kefir grains GROW so you will never run out and have plenty to share over time. zoe From: Kathy Tankersley babychicks...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, 5 August 2012, 16:06 Subject: CSkefir Hi, anoe know anything about kefir? Do you take it, how do you make it?, Good purchase place? Thanks for the info, Kathy
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Over time I have found that there are different kinds of kefir grains and they make different tasting kefirs. PT From: Del [mailto:d...@altsystem.com] Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2012 10:55 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSkefir Sorry, but I don’t agree. We make Kefir from raw milk here in Vermont, and I was using Kefir grains for the first few years, but they were a lot of trouble and never made very good kefir as far as I was concerned. I finally threw out the grains, which were multiplying out of control, and making kefir that did not taste good, and instead started using this kefir starter. Now I get thick, delicious kefir every time: http://www.amazon.com/Yogourmet-Freeze-Dried-Kefir-Starter/dp/B001EO69O2/ref=sr_1_sc_1?ie=UTF8 http://www.amazon.com/Yogourmet-Freeze-Dried-Kefir-Starter/dp/B001EO69O2/ref=sr_1_sc_1?ie=UTF8qid=1344221466sr=8-1-spellkeywords=kefir+started qid=1344221466sr=8-1-spellkeywords=kefir+started This is the real stuff, it does what we want it to do for our insides, and it is much easier to make than using the grains, which I found to be very temperamental and a lot of trouble. Del From: Zoe W mailto:mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2012 4:26 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSkefir http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Kefir_making/ This is your best source of info and of the grains do not be fooled by the folks who try to sell you the powder that you have to keep on buying. Kefir grains GROW so you will never run out and have plenty to share over time. zoe _ From: Kathy Tankersley babychicks...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, 5 August 2012, 16:06 Subject: CSkefir Hi, anoe know anything about kefir? Do you take it, how do you make it?, Good purchase place? Thanks for the info, Kathy No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5180 - Release Date: 08/05/12
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Yes, I too like the smoothies. Currently using raw milk and trying to find a source for goat milk. I don't particularly like the taste of plain kefir, but I know how good it is for me. If nothing else is available I will add a few drops of a flavored liquid stevia. zoe of a From: Dianne France dianne_fra...@hotmail.com To: silver-list silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, 5 August 2012, 20:36 Subject: RE: CSkefir I also use kefir grains to ferment in goat milk. The yahoo group is fantastic. The grains look like minature cauliflowers. Many that are part of the Weston A Price groups have kefir and kombucha. They usually are willing to share but the grains can be bought. I had problems with bought grains (dehydrated) getting them to grow. Kefir multiply as they mature and then you can divide and share. My husband likes kefir smoothies with fruit added. Check out http://users.sa.chariot.net.au/~dna/kefirpage.html Good luck. Dianne Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 21:26:13 +0100 From: mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Re: CSkefir To: silver-list@eskimo.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Kefir_making/ This is your best source of info and of the grains do not be fooled by the folks who try to sell you the powder that you have to keep on buying. Kefir grains GROW so you will never run out and have plenty to share over time. zoe From: Kathy Tankersley babychicks...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, 5 August 2012, 16:06 Subject: CSkefir Hi, anoe know anything about kefir? Do you take it, how do you make it?, Good purchase place? Thanks for the info, Kathy
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Here in Texas, I have not had trouble with my milk kefir grains unless I have been careless with them. The do grow, and I eat the excess growth. I always have a small lump for making milk kefir, and my grains make it in less than 24 hours! I love the taste of the raw milk kefir made from the grains very very much. Sometimes I leave it lumpy thick; other times I put it through a plastic strainer to make it very smooth but thick. Whatever way I do it, it is always thick and delicious. I also feed it to my dogs who are thriving on it. My grains have been with me for a long time. And if they were to have a problem, I would get more grains. Joyce On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 9:54 PM, Del d...@altsystem.com wrote: Sorry, but I don’t agree. We make Kefir from raw milk here in Vermont, and I was using Kefir grains for the first few years, but they were a lot of trouble and never made very good kefir as far as I was concerned. I finally threw out the grains, which were multiplying out of control, and making kefir that did not taste good, and instead started using this kefir starter. Now I get thick, delicious kefir every time: -- It's all about the Airedales; the 2012 Quilts are coming soon; be ready to donate to the 2012 Quilt Project. All proceeds from this group that started in 1998 go to Airedale Rescue!!! . . . and you could end up with an exquisite quilt or wall hanging! . http://www.airedalerescue.net/alphabet/a_is_for_airedale/patterns/ http://dearjubilee-joyce.blogspot.com http://www.jubileepuppies.blogspot.com/
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Wilderness Family Naturals (218) 226-3985 99 Edison Blvd, #A, Silver Bay, MN For the best dried Kefir Grains I have tried several over the last 15 years, This Minnesota co. has had one run-in with the FDA over something 10 years ago, but I have always loved there products. Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. From: Sandy hollis302...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 10:17 PM Subject: Re: CSKefir Grains As you wish. Oh great Deborah ;) --- On Sat, 6/25/11, Ronnie Joseph ronnie.jos...@shaw.ca wrote: From: Ronnie Joseph ronnie.jos...@shaw.ca Subject: Re: CSCancer question To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Saturday, June 25, 2011, 12:12 AM Oh great Deborah, Maybe someone close to me in Surrey British Columbia will let me know if they have some. I will await other replies and if unsuccessful I may contact you in the near future if that's ok Ronnie
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As you wish. Oh great Deborah ;) --- On Sat, 6/25/11, Ronnie Joseph ronnie.jos...@shaw.ca wrote: From: Ronnie Joseph ronnie.jos...@shaw.ca Subject: Re: CSCancer question To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Saturday, June 25, 2011, 12:12 AM Oh great Deborah, Maybe someone close to me in Surrey British Columbia will let me know if they have some. I will await other replies and if unsuccessful I may contact you in the near future if that's ok Ronnie
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Store bought kefir is not kefir at all, it's a fake. If you're in SC, you can legally by raw milk that has been certified safe for human consumption by SCDHEC (SC has an excellent program for this), get kefir grains and make your own. Of course it's still an acquired taste, one which I have totally acquired. My first exposure to kefir was store bought also, and if that's all I'd ever had, I wouldn't be drinking it. Now I have to limit drinking it; I love the stuff. Right now, my son-in-law, who'd always been told that he was dairy intolerant, is recovering from a chronic ear infection that the doctors couldn't cure, that CS didn't cure, by drinking real kefir and eating homegrown fertilized raw eggs. You're not dairy intolerant until your body has rejected raw milk (I'd better qualify that to say truly good raw milk) and even then, you can most likely drink kefir, because the kefir grains convert lactose to lactic acid, B vitamins and some kind of good sugar that I can't remember the name of right now. The statement that CS didn't cure it is not meant to disparage CS, which is a staple in this house (and I've bought generators for my married children). I think some of the failures of CS and many other therapies are attributable to the terrible nutritional quality of our US food supply that is grown for nothing but pretty and profit. Daddybob -Original Message- From: Pat [mailto:pattycake29...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 9:19 PM To: silver list Subject: CSKefir A few months ago I tried Lifeway Kefir. It was the only brand I've seen in any stores here in SC. I didn't like it much...sour and fizzy, but kept trying it. I eventually got to where I actually enjoy the peach or strawberry. My daughter tried some Kefir and said it was so bad she couldn't drink it and threw it away. I was surprised. Yesterday I bought a brand that was new to me at the new Whole Foods Market. I tasted it, it was horrible, even though it had a very nice peach scent. Tasted it again and again and hated it. I added diced peaches to it and still couldn't drink it. It was Helios brand. I told my daughter to never buy that brand and she said that was the brand she'd bought, that in Detroit that was the only brand she'd found. I don't know what gives it that nasty taste but I found it totally un-usable. Anyone who's tried Kefir and didn't like it, be sure to try Lifeway brand. Pat __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hi Pat, I just brew my own fresh. It's easy you control what milk is used to brew it. I use a local organic whole milk, so I know exactly what's in there. I do have to add 1/8 - 1/4 C of a commercially made smoothie (like Tillamook Vanilla Smoothie) for my husband to get it down, but I love it plain with a 1/4 tsp of cayenne pepper stirred in. YUM! Here's a site where you can read up on making your own if you're interested even buy starter babies from the host. He's extremely knowledgeable about kefir and is generous with advice. His kefir babies make the smoothest, creamiest, beer-iest kefir I've tasted. http://users.sa.chariot.net.au/~dna/kefirpage.html Heather -Original Message- From: Pat [mailto:pattycake29...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 6:19 PM To: silver list Subject: CSKefir A few months ago I tried Lifeway Kefir. It was the only brand I've seen in any stores here in SC. I didn't like it much...
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I got an organic kefir from Amish country but my kids hated it.
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I have tried the Helios brand whiuch is supposed to be the best and the flavor I tried was the vanilal and it seemed very tasty. I had never tried kefir before that so have nothing to compare it too. I also added soem Chlorella growth factor to it sometimes to make the organisms grow faster. It is supposed to increase the growth of the probiotics by about 4 times. Take care, V http://www.health-freedom.info/ A few months ago I tried Lifeway Kefir. It was the only brand I've seen in any stores here in SC. I didn't like it much...sour and fizzy, but kept trying it. I eventually got to where I actually enjoy the peach or strawberry. My daughter tried some Kefir and said it was so bad she couldn't drink it and threw it away. I was surprised. Yesterday I bought a brand that was new to me at the new Whole Foods Market. I tasted it, it was horrible, even though it had a very nice peach scent. Tasted it again and again and hated it. I added diced peaches to it and still couldn't drink it. It was Helios brand. I told my daughter to never buy that brand and she said that was the brand she'd bought, that in Detroit that was the only brand she'd found. I don't know what gives it that nasty taste but I found it totally un-usable. Anyone who's tried Kefir and didn't like it, be sure to try Lifeway brand. Pat __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com --
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You can find a local co-op who sells raw milk and products like yogurt or kefir...or I think health food stores will sell starters or grainsthis was just a few posts back... Cari Connie Howard craehow...@juno.com wrote: I must have missed some of the links. You were talking about Yeast and treating it using Kefir. I'm not familiar with with Kefir. What are we talking about something that can be bought prepared or has to be made. And how do we make it. It sounds like a cheese from what was said. Can someone enlighten me. connie Tel Tofflemire telt...@cableone.net wrote: RE: Kefir and overgrowth of Yeast, any amount will be helpful, and you can not over dose, (except maybe drown) My friend has trouble too and I have her m! ake her own fresh every day, and she has grown fond of it and even though she is well now, she continues to drink the (waye) Kefir and eat the (curds) cheese daily. You can get Kefir seeds form Dom's website. (Click Below.) - Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less
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I believe I understood that the risk in fermenting coconut was with fermenting the solids, not the milk; and that the temperature of the fermentation/amount of lipids were also factors in causing the toxicity. I can't remember it exactly either...time to do a little research! :o) Heather -Original Message- From: Connie [mailto:wufn...@stargate.net] Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 5:11 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSKefir !! Tracy, are you on the Kefir making list? There was something said in the last 6 weeks or so about coconut milk kefir. I think there is some risk. I am sorry I do not know beyond this. Couldn't tell you what risk. Connie From: Nick Grant nwgr...@inet.net.nz Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 13:48:55 +1300 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSKefir !! Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 16:50:14 -0800 I wonder if you could make kefir in Coconut milk? Tracy - Original Message - From: Connie mailto:wufn...@stargate.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, 12 February 2002 08:46 Subject: Re: CSKefir !! http://users.chariot.net.au/~dna/kefirpage.html Go take a look at Dom's site in re to soy kefir. You can make kefir with soy milk, as well as rice milk, almond milk, goat milk, even Water kefir. (kefir d'aqua) The one draw back with soy kefir, the grains do not do as well in soy milk. Allowing them to ferment, periodically in other milks- dairy, goat is necessary to keep the grains healthy, productive. I believe Dom recommends at least once every 4 or 5 days. Connie From: ijzendo...@webtv.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 13:08:51 -0600 (CST) To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSKefir !! Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 11:09:06 -0800 Hi, I have not tried it because I love the goatmilk kefir. Soymilk is supposed to work just fine. Virginia D. Be kind to animals, hug your pet every day From: Martin, Bill (CXO) bill.mar...@compaq.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 09:11:41 -0700 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSKefir !! Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 08:12:44 -0800 I checked the web for more info on Kefir, and found that for the most part, animal milk is used in the process. Does anyone know if you can use something other - say: soy milk - as a substitute? -Original Message- From: DJG [mailto:ql...@tds.net] Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 6:46 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSKefir !! Hey! I've been making my own Kefir for several months now. It's quite the amazing stuff. I'm getting pretty good at it too. There is no comparison to yogurt and kefir. Kefir is superior in every way. Do a search and you'll be amazed what can be done with it, and the health benefits. Heck, you can even make your own booze with it in a pinch lol. Like CS, the cost is very low, and only the initial price of the grains, but they grow and multiply, then you give them to someone else. The cycle never ends.
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I checked the web for more info on Kefir, and found that for the most part, animal milk is used in the process. Does anyone know if you can use something other - say: soy milk - as a substitute? -Original Message- From: DJG [mailto:ql...@tds.net] Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 6:46 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSKefir !! Hey! I've been making my own Kefir for several months now. It's quite the amazing stuff. I'm getting pretty good at it too. There is no comparison to yogurt and kefir. Kefir is superior in every way. Do a search and you'll be amazed what can be done with it, and the health benefits. Heck, you can even make your own booze with it in a pinch lol. Like CS, the cost is very low, and only the initial price of the grains, but they grow and multiply, then you give them to someone else. The cycle never ends.
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Hi, I have not tried it because I love the goatmilk kefir. Soymilk is supposed to work just fine. Virginia D. Be kind to animals, hug your pet every day ---BeginMessage--- I checked the web for more info on Kefir, and found that for the most part, animal milk is used in the process. Does anyone know if you can use something other - say: soy milk - as a substitute? -Original Message- From: DJG [mailto:ql...@tds.net] Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 6:46 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSKefir !! Hey! I've been making my own Kefir for several months now. It's quite the amazing stuff. I'm getting pretty good at it too. There is no comparison to yogurt and kefir. Kefir is superior in every way. Do a search and you'll be amazed what can be done with it, and the health benefits. Heck, you can even make your own booze with it in a pinch lol. Like CS, the cost is very low, and only the initial price of the grains, but they grow and multiply, then you give them to someone else. The cycle never ends. ---End Message---
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http://users.chariot.net.au/~dna/kefirpage.html Go take a look at Dom's site in re to soy kefir. You can make kefir with soy milk, as well as rice milk, almond milk, goat milk, even Water kefir. (kefir d'aqua) The one draw back with soy kefir, the grains do not do as well in soy milk. Allowing them to ferment, periodically in other milks- dairy, goat is necessary to keep the grains healthy, productive. I believe Dom recommends at least once every 4 or 5 days. Connie From: ijzendo...@webtv.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 13:08:51 -0600 (CST) To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSKefir !! Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 11:09:06 -0800 Hi, I have not tried it because I love the goatmilk kefir. Soymilk is supposed to work just fine. Virginia D. Be kind to animals, hug your pet every day From: Martin, Bill (CXO) bill.mar...@compaq.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 09:11:41 -0700 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSKefir !! Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 08:12:44 -0800 I checked the web for more info on Kefir, and found that for the most part, animal milk is used in the process. Does anyone know if you can use something other - say: soy milk - as a substitute? -Original Message- From: DJG [mailto:ql...@tds.net] Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 6:46 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSKefir !! Hey! I've been making my own Kefir for several months now. It's quite the amazing stuff. I'm getting pretty good at it too. There is no comparison to yogurt and kefir. Kefir is superior in every way. Do a search and you'll be amazed what can be done with it, and the health benefits. Heck, you can even make your own booze with it in a pinch lol. Like CS, the cost is very low, and only the initial price of the grains, but they grow and multiply, then you give them to someone else. The cycle never ends.
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Re: CSKefir !!I wonder if you could make kefir in Coconut milk? Tracy - Original Message - From: Connie To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, 12 February 2002 08:46 Subject: Re: CSKefir !! http://users.chariot.net.au/~dna/kefirpage.html Go take a look at Dom's site in re to soy kefir. You can make kefir with soy milk, as well as rice milk, almond milk, goat milk, even Water kefir. (kefir d'aqua) The one draw back with soy kefir, the grains do not do as well in soy milk. Allowing them to ferment, periodically in other milks- dairy, goat is necessary to keep the grains healthy, productive. I believe Dom recommends at least once every 4 or 5 days. Connie From: ijzendo...@webtv.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 13:08:51 -0600 (CST) To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSKefir !! Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 11:09:06 -0800 Hi, I have not tried it because I love the goatmilk kefir. Soymilk is supposed to work just fine. Virginia D. Be kind to animals, hug your pet every day From: Martin, Bill (CXO) bill.mar...@compaq.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 09:11:41 -0700 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSKefir !! Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 08:12:44 -0800 I checked the web for more info on Kefir, and found that for the most part, animal milk is used in the process. Does anyone know if you can use something other - say: soy milk - as a substitute? -Original Message- From: DJG [mailto:ql...@tds.net] Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 6:46 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSKefir !! Hey! I've been making my own Kefir for several months now. It's quite the amazing stuff. I'm getting pretty good at it too. There is no comparison to yogurt and kefir. Kefir is superior in every way. Do a search and you'll be amazed what can be done with it, and the health benefits. Heck, you can even make your own booze with it in a pinch lol. Like CS, the cost is very low, and only the initial price of the grains, but they grow and multiply, then you give them to someone else. The cycle never ends.
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Tracy, are you on the Kefir making list? There was something said in the last 6 weeks or so about coconut milk kefir. I think there is some risk. I am sorry I do not know beyond this. Couldn't tell you what risk. Connie From: Nick Grant nwgr...@inet.net.nz Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 13:48:55 +1300 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSKefir !! Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 16:50:14 -0800 I wonder if you could make kefir in Coconut milk? Tracy - Original Message - From: Connie mailto:wufn...@stargate.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, 12 February 2002 08:46 Subject: Re: CSKefir !! http://users.chariot.net.au/~dna/kefirpage.html Go take a look at Dom's site in re to soy kefir. You can make kefir with soy milk, as well as rice milk, almond milk, goat milk, even Water kefir. (kefir d'aqua) The one draw back with soy kefir, the grains do not do as well in soy milk. Allowing them to ferment, periodically in other milks- dairy, goat is necessary to keep the grains healthy, productive. I believe Dom recommends at least once every 4 or 5 days. Connie From: ijzendo...@webtv.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 13:08:51 -0600 (CST) To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSKefir !! Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 11:09:06 -0800 Hi, I have not tried it because I love the goatmilk kefir. Soymilk is supposed to work just fine. Virginia D. Be kind to animals, hug your pet every day From: Martin, Bill (CXO) bill.mar...@compaq.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 09:11:41 -0700 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSKefir !! Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 08:12:44 -0800 I checked the web for more info on Kefir, and found that for the most part, animal milk is used in the process. Does anyone know if you can use something other - say: soy milk - as a substitute? -Original Message- From: DJG [mailto:ql...@tds.net] Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 6:46 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSKefir !! Hey! I've been making my own Kefir for several months now. It's quite the amazing stuff. I'm getting pretty good at it too. There is no comparison to yogurt and kefir. Kefir is superior in every way. Do a search and you'll be amazed what can be done with it, and the health benefits. Heck, you can even make your own booze with it in a pinch lol. Like CS, the cost is very low, and only the initial price of the grains, but they grow and multiply, then you give them to someone else. The cycle never ends.
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In article b88dd5cb.1fe8wufn...@stargate.net, Connie wufn...@stargate.net wrote: Tracy, are you on the Kefir making list? There was something said in the last 6 weeks or so about coconut milk kefir. I think there is some risk. I am sorry I do not know beyond this. Couldn't tell you what risk. This was posted recently on the coconut oil yahoo group: From: Hugh Harries harr...@c... Date: Wed Feb 6, 2002 1:10 pm Subject: Tempe bongkrek Rafael A. Garcia (1999) The effect of lipids on bongkrekic (Bongkrek) acid toxin production by Burkholderia cocovenenans in coconut media. Food Additives Contaminants 16 (2) 63 - 69 Abstract: Tempe bongkrek is an Indonesian food made by fermentation of coconut presscake or coconut milk residue [by] Rhizopus oligosporus. Consumption of tempe bongkrek is associated with a food-borne human intoxication and significant numbers of deaths annually. The bacterium Burkholderia cocovenenans , which is the causative organism, produces two toxins, toxoflavin and bongkrekic acid (also commonly referred to as bongkrek acid). The reasons why these poisonings occur only in a very limited number of foods and only in isolated regions of the world are unclear. Our preliminary experiments in defined media and coconut investigated several compositional and environmental factors and suggested that lipid type and/or concentration were important. The effect of lipid concentration and fatty acid type on the production of bongkrekic acid by B. cocovenenans was examined by adding different amounts of coconut fat or individual free fatty acids to defatted and sterilized Rich Coconut Media (dRCM). The dRCM with added lipid was inoculated with B. cocovenenans , incubated at 30°C for 5 days and the amount of bongkrekic acid formed quantified by HPLC. Coconut fat concentrations of 10% (dry basis) or less did not result in detectable amounts of bongkrekic acid even though the B. cocovenenans grew to high levels. Forty and 50% coconut fat resulted in as much as 1.4mg/g bonkrekic acid (dry weight) at the same level of growth. Of eight saturated fatty acids tested, only lauric (12:0), myristic (14:0), and palmitic (16:0)acids stimulated the production of detectable amounts of toxin. When four 18-carbon free fatty acids with different degrees of saturation were compared, significant amounts of bongkrekic acid (2.62mg/g dry weight) were produced only with oleic acid (18:1). These data indicate that the concentration and type of lipid in the substrate is critical for bongkrekic acid formation. This may explain why bongkrekic acid intoxication is limited to certain foods. Outbreaks associated with foods containing less than 20% fat may be a result of toxoflavin formation and not bongkrekic acid formation. -- John A. Stanley j...@natel.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Is this the bill martin i know, im john duvall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Yeah I would like to know for Brisbane, Australia Cheers Damian At 06:57 PM 1/02/2002 +1300, you wrote: Would anyone know where I can get this Kefir in New Zealand? Anyone - anyone at all? :) Tracy -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Do you have health food stores down there? That's where I found the kind I drank a few years ago; in a health food store. (my cat loved it by the way) He has eclectic tastes. Diane Nick Grant wrote: Would anyone know where I can get this Kefir in New Zealand? Anyone - anyone at all? :) Tracy -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Tracy, Damian and others, http://users.chariot.net.au/~dna/kefirpage.html here is the link for Dom's Kefir site. Dom lives in australia...he is the KING of Kefir. He does share his grains, even sends them to the US. The grains I have are not from Dom's stock, at least not that I am aware of. My grains were sent to me from Upstate NY. From his site you can join the Kefir making list. There are members there all over the world, who also share kefir grains from time to time. Here is the addy to join the Kefir list without going through his website. kefir_making-subscr...@yahoogroups.com (can only assume this will work, Dom seems to have been able to remove the sub, unsub instruct from the bottom of the postings to the list) I have had half a dozen requests for grains from my posting yesterday, so happy to see so many interested in Kefir. I will respond to each one privately, but must say, I don't have a supply to meet all the needs right now. I generally divide a few every couple weeks. http://66.46.11.99/clarkson/Show/Clarkson/kefir/default.asp This link will take you to a Kefir data base with people listed who are looking for Kefir grains, and those with grains to share. You can add your name to the lists. Cheers! Connie From: Nick Grant nwgr...@inet.net.nz Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 18:57:47 +1300 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSkefir Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 22:02:41 -0800 Would anyone know where I can get this Kefir in New Zealand? Anyone - anyone at all? :) Tracy -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Thanks for your help Cheers Damian At 08:11 AM 1/02/2002 -0500, you wrote: Tracy, Damian and others, http://users.chariot.net.au/~dna/kefirpage.html here is the link for Dom's Kefir site. Dom lives in australia...he is the KING of Kefir. He does share his grains, even sends them to the US. The grains I have are not from Dom's stock, at least not that I am aware of. My grains were sent to me from Upstate NY. From his site you can join the Kefir making list. There are members there all over the world, who also share kefir grains from time to time. Here is the addy to join the Kefir list without going through his website. kefir_making-subscr...@yahoogroups.com (can only assume this will work, Dom seems to have been able to remove the sub, unsub instruct from the bottom of the postings to the list) I have had half a dozen requests for grains from my posting yesterday, so happy to see so many interested in Kefir. I will respond to each one privately, but must say, I don't have a supply to meet all the needs right now. I generally divide a few every couple weeks. http://66.46.11.99/clarkson/Show/Clarkson/kefir/default.asp This link will take you to a Kefir data base with people listed who are looking for Kefir grains, and those with grains to share. You can add your name to the lists. Cheers! Connie From: Nick Grant nwgr...@inet.net.nz Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 18:57:47 +1300 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSkefir Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 22:02:41 -0800 Would anyone know where I can get this Kefir in New Zealand? Anyone - anyone at all? :) Tracy -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hi Bob: My wife and I have made Kefir for several years, drink a glass every third day, used the same Kefir for all this time, when you have extra store it in the fridge and use in all baking and making pancakes, simply delicious. Blessings Rev. Ted Bob Ratliff wrote: Anyone on this list using Kefir for medicinal purposes? What are the results? http://www.chariot.net.au/~dna/Makekefir.html Best Regards, Robert Ratliff bobratl...@iname.com ICQ 1495914 AIM mtncurr22 SE Tenn. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= * The Meek shall inherit the earth.after we're through with it. * -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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In a message dated 10/29/2000 1:38:53 AM Central Standard Time, t...@home.com writes: My wife and I have made Kefir for several years, drink a glass every third day, used the same Kefir for all this time, when you have extra store it in the fridge and use in all baking and making pancakes, simply delicious. Blessings Rev. Ted _ Where did you get your grains to make it with? Edith -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Get them from someone else. There is lots of discussion saying than any commercial Kefir is not the same as Kefir that has been passed on for centuries. I may have extra in the future. Best Regards, Robert Ratliff bobratl...@iname.com ICQ 1495914 AIM mtncurr22 SE Tenn. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= * Good Health is merely the slowest possible rate at which one can die. * -Original Message- From: ejohns9...@aol.com [mailto:ejohns9...@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2000 7:14 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSkefir In a message dated 10/29/2000 1:38:53 AM Central Standard Time, t...@home.com writes: My wife and I have made Kefir for several years, drink a glass every third day, used the same Kefir for all this time, when you have extra store it in the fridge and use in all baking and making pancakes, simply delicious. Blessings Rev. Ted _ Where did you get your grains to make it with? Edith -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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The Kefir was given to us by a German lady several years ago, we have used it ever since, it has never faild to make a yogert like mix, tastes great. Blessings Rev. Ted ejohns9...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 10/29/2000 1:38:53 AM Central Standard Time, t...@home.com writes: My wife and I have made Kefir for several years, drink a glass every third day, used the same Kefir for all this time, when you have extra store it in the fridge and use in all baking and making pancakes, simply delicious. Blessings Rev. Ted _ Where did you get your grains to make it with? Edith -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
