Re: CS> Blood thinning
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RE: CS> Blood thinning
LOL...Well there ya go...LOL
I read a lot of what's around Dan and then pick the bones out of what I've read.
Funny though, I never have and don't now take any medicinals or supplements,
apart from my daily EIS, and I don't have a doctor. So I guess my mindset
is...when you're on a good thing, stick to it .
When my expiry date is reached, then it's...'goodnight Irene'.
I'm almost 63 so I'm just a boy still in short pants I know, but I'm feeling
pretty damn good. I have to admit though that I've just started to see a Chiro
in the last couple of weeks for my back because what I've been doing to fix it
over many years doesn't seem to be working this time ~ bugger it! I think it
may be something I've had all my life {going on Xrays spanning 40 odd years}
and is now starting to manifest itself a bit more.
My old philosophy of..."when the going gets tough, the tough get going" is
becoming a little difficult to live by, but I'll deny ever having admitted to
that .
I wouldn't go so far as to say I do the opposite, I definitely have my own
mindset and am independent {that's why I get in so much trouble}, I just would
rather work things out for myself if I can before putting myself in someone
else's hands.
N.
> Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 09:46:11 -0600
> Subject: Re: CS> Blood thinning
> From: bhangcha...@gmail.com
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>
> Neville,
>
> Judging from what I have read in your posts over the years it seems
> that you and your family should just figure out what is recommended as
> general practice for everyone else and then do the exact opposite.
>
> Dan
>
> On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 11:27 PM, Neville Munn wrote:
> > HAHA, love a sense of humour.
> >
> > Well, many moons ago my old mum decided to take Vit E. I don't know if she
>
Re: CS> Blood thinning
this is the reason you want to take dry E mixed tocopherols -Original Message- From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick To: silver-list Sent: Tue, Mar 5, 2013 7:13 am Subject: Re: CS> Blood thinning You have to be really careful that the vit E you use is not rancid. Rancid Vit E is more harmful than no Vit E. dee From: RaVen Reply-To: "silver-list@eskimo.com" Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 23:55:22 -0700 To: "silver-list@eskimo.com" Subject: Re: CS> Blood thinning Resent-From: "silver-list@eskimo.com" Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 22:55:29 -0800 Which vitamin E (soy-free, dye-free, preservative-free) supplement do you recommend for people to take? It seems we have to consume so much expensive organic food only to get adequate amounts. And should vitamin E be paired up with another vitamin or mineral? Sent from my iPad On Mar 4, 2013, at 8:36 PM, "Harold" wrote: The best description I heard from a good source was that Aspirin did not thin the blood,it only made the blood slippryer [spell ?],thereby not allowing it to clump or clot,or stick to the blood vessel walls..AND Vitamin E does the same. If I may relate what happened to my father back in 1942,[he was 45].He was an engineer in the Army,Staff sergeant.Had a severe coronary Occlusion,was medically discharged.Our old time Dr. had him on one Drug only [by script in those days ], and it was Vitamin E.He lived until he was 77+.We never even knew what Vit. E was before then. AND,when I came back from England [RCAF] after the war ,I was enjoying [?] a form of PTSD ,guess what the same Dr. prescribed for me;youāre right,VITAMIN E!!! TA DA !!! and Iām still here,big as life and twice as unnatural. Keep your fingers crossed kiddies. Regards, Harold
Re: CS> Blood thinning
You have to be really careful that the vit E you use is not rancid. Rancid Vit E is more harmful than no Vit E. dee From: RaVen Reply-To: "silver-list@eskimo.com" Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 23:55:22 -0700 To: "silver-list@eskimo.com" Subject: Re: CS> Blood thinning Resent-From: "silver-list@eskimo.com" Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 22:55:29 -0800 Which vitamin E (soy-free, dye-free, preservative-free) supplement do you recommend for people to take? It seems we have to consume so much expensive organic food only to get adequate amounts. And should vitamin E be paired up with another vitamin or mineral? Sent from my iPad On Mar 4, 2013, at 8:36 PM, "Harold" wrote: > The best description I heard from a good source was that Aspirin did not thin > the blood,it only made the blood slippryer [spell ?],thereby not allowing it > to clump or clot,or stick to the blood vessel walls..AND Vitamin E does the > same. > If I may relate what happened to my father back in 1942,[he was 45].He was an > engineer in the Army,Staff sergeant.Had a severe coronary Occlusion,was > medically discharged.Our old time Dr. had him on one Drug only [by script in > those days ], and it was Vitamin E.He lived until he was 77+.We never even > knew what Vit. E was before then. > AND,when I came back from England [RCAF] after the war ,I was enjoying [?] a > form of PTSD ,guess what the same Dr. prescribed for me;youĀ¹re right,VITAMIN > E!!! > TA DA !!! and IĀ¹m still here,big as life and twice as unnatural. > Keep your fingers crossed kiddies. > > Regards, > > Harold > >
Re: CS> Blood thinning
Mixed dry E Edith -Original Message- From: RaVen To: silver-list Sent: Tue, Mar 5, 2013 12:55 am Subject: Re: CS> Blood thinning Which vitamin E (soy-free, dye-free, preservative-free) supplement do you recommend for people to take? It seems we have to consume so much expensive organic food only to get adequate amounts. And should vitamin E be paired up with another vitamin or mineral? Sent from my iPad On Mar 4, 2013, at 8:36 PM, "Harold" wrote: The best description I heard from a good source was that Aspirin did not thin the blood,it only made the blood slippryer [spell ?],thereby not allowing it to clump or clot,or stick to the blood vessel walls..AND Vitamin E does the same. If I may relate what happened to my father back in 1942,[he was 45].He was an engineer in the Army,Staff sergeant.Had a severe coronary Occlusion,was medically discharged.Our old time Dr. had him on one Drug only [by script in those days ], and it was Vitamin E.He lived until he was 77+.We never even knew what Vit. E was before then. AND,when I came back from England [RCAF] after the war ,I was enjoying [?] a form of PTSD ,guess what the same Dr. prescribed for me;youāre right,VITAMIN E!!! TA DA !!! and Iām still here,big as life and twice as unnatural. Keep your fingers crossed kiddies. Regards, Harold
Re: CS> Blood thinning
Which vitamin E (soy-free, dye-free, preservative-free) supplement do you recommend for people to take? It seems we have to consume so much expensive organic food only to get adequate amounts. And should vitamin E be paired up with another vitamin or mineral? Sent from my iPad On Mar 4, 2013, at 8:36 PM, "Harold" wrote: > The best description I heard from a good source was that Aspirin did not thin > the blood,it only made the blood slippryer [spell ?],thereby not allowing it > to clump or clot,or stick to the blood vessel walls..AND Vitamin E does the > same. > If I may relate what happened to my father back in 1942,[he was 45].He was an > engineer in the Army,Staff sergeant.Had a severe coronary Occlusion,was > medically discharged.Our old time Dr. had him on one Drug only [by script in > those days ], and it was Vitamin E.He lived until he was 77+.We never even > knew what Vit. E was before then. > AND,when I came back from England [RCAF] after the war ,I was enjoying [?] a > form of PTSD ,guess what the same Dr. prescribed for me;youāre right,VITAMIN > E!!! > TA DA !!! and Iām still here,big as life and twice as unnatural. > Keep your fingers crossed kiddies. > > Regards, > > Harold > >
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HAHA, love a sense of humour. Well, many moons ago my old mum decided to take Vit E. I don't know if she did this on her own accord or had spoken to someone about it as I didn't live home, but she had a heart attack and karked it in her 59th year. I do remember when I was a teen asking her why she was taking them and she said they were for your heart? I think she may have read too much and decided to self medicate, but that Vit E sort of stuck in my memory. Because she probly started taking them after hitting the 50 or 55 mark who's to say it didn't dislodge a form of clot or something from the blood vessel walls which enabled it to reach the heart and that's what took her out? Or perhaps she took more than she should have and things went too quick? Interesting Harold?? N. From: har...@telus.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS> Blood thinning Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 19:36:11 -0800 The best description I heard from a good source was that Aspirin did not thin the blood,it only made the blood slippryer [spell ?],thereby not allowing it to clump or clot,or stick to the blood vessel walls..AND Vitamin E does the same. If I may relate what happened to my father back in 1942,[he was 45].He was an engineer in the Army,Staff sergeant.Had a severe coronary Occlusion,was medically discharged.Our old time Dr. had him on one Drug only [by script in those days ], and it was Vitamin E.He lived until he was 77+.We never even knew what Vit. E was before then. AND,when I came back from England [RCAF] after the war ,I was enjoying [?] a form of PTSD ,guess what the same Dr. prescribed for me;youāre right,VITAMIN E!!! TA DA !!! and Iām still here,big as life and twice as unnatural. Keep your fingers crossed kiddies. Regards, Harold
Re: CS>blood thinning qualities--CS, supplements, herbs
These are excellent suggestion, Tony. How does cucumber help drain the lymphatic system. In what quantities should one eat cucumber? Is it difficult to digest for older people? Thanks!!! -Original Message- From: Tony Moody To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Thursday, August 24, 2000 1:02 PM Subject: Re: CS>blood thinning qualities--CS, supplements, herbs >Janet, >I have had burst blood vessel in eye on three occasions. The thing that >is consistent with them is TENSION brought on by (1) sustained heavy >physical labour. (unaccustomed pedalling a bicycle up a long steep >hill). (2, 3) Both occasions were angry, fearful, feeling helpless >situations. I was not using CS the first time. I probably was using CS >occasionally the last time which was the smallest and quickest to go. >Some things seemed to help. Slices of raw cucumber on the closed eyelid >as long and often as I could, and eating cucumber to get the lymphatic >system going to drain the dramatic redness from the eye. Vitamin A or >Beta carotene to toughen the skin, to stop the leak and prevent >recurrence. On the last occasion very dilute H2O2 dropped in the eye to >make the redness go away. > >Teach her meditation or relaxation methods. > >Tony > >Janet Lubart wrote: >> >> Hi everyone. >> Would anyone know if CS has any blood thinning qualities? My 80 year old >> mother takes 1teaspoon a couple times a week as well as sprays it in her >> eyes on occasion when exposed to sick kids. Yesterday , she developed a >> blood clot(bright red) on the white part of her eye that is sticking out >> over a fourth of an inch. Opthomalogist says it is not serious and >> eventually it will go away. He did ask her if she is taking aspirin.(no)She >> is also taking COQ10(100mg a day) garlic(only one a day), strong >> multiple,cal/mag, vitamin C, SAme, >> Echinacia with goldenseal on occasion, bilberry and lutein which has haulted >> macular degeneration. >> Does anyone know of a good source on the net or book that can help us decide >> which of these life prolonging supplements she can or cannot continue and >> learn about combinations. She takes Advil on occasion. My concern is that >> if she can develop one blood clot in her eye , she may have the possibility >> of developing clots in other areas. >> She says that she had not sprayed CS in at least 3 weeks and says she never >> rubs her eyes with it in EVEN when it burns. >> She also takes relaxation sleeping herbs every night. >> Incidently, many people think that she is in her late 60s. She quit all >> supplements as of yesterday because of fear after 10+ years. >> Thank you for our comments. >> Sincerely, >> Janet >> >> -- >> The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. >> >> To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: >> silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com >> with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. >> >> To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com >> Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html >> List maintainer: Mike Devour >
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Hi Janet, I don't know if your mother is taking it, but Ginko Biloba has a real blood thinning property to it. I have a friend who cannot take too much of it because she developes blood shot eyes from it if she does. John -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
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Dear Janet, I don't know that much about Same, but many things can affect the thyroid. I learned that researching graves disease for my mother-in-law. Seems a whole class of veggies can possible cause hypothyroidism. Cabbage especially, but other cruciferous veggies too. One thing that it could be at your mother's age is lacrimosis or "dry-eye" and she might need artificial tears, but it is most likely just vein fragility which could be cause by of all things a virus too. Barb Michael Lee Finney michael.fin...@acm.org michael.fin...@computer.org -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
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My husbands takes it every day. Swears by it. Says it helps his depression, gives him energy. Can tell when he runs out. Also is supposed to help with joints. Janet Lubart wrote: > > Thank you Barb and Tony! I am so greatful to be part of this group. > I will pass these messages on to my mother who was organically oriented > when it really was not cool to be that way..25, 30 years ago. I can > still taste that brewers yeast ! Does anyone know anything about SAme? > Can it possibly affect the thyroid? She started on a moderate dose two weeks > ago. After thinking about all your responses, it is the only supplement I am > still concerned about. > Thanks, > Janet > -Original Message- > From: Tony Moody > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Date: Thursday, August 24, 2000 1:02 PM > Subject: Re: CS>blood thinning qualities--CS, supplements, herbs > > >Janet, > >I have had burst blood vessel in eye on three occasions. The thing that > >is consistent with them is TENSION brought on by (1) sustained heavy > >physical labour. (unaccustomed pedalling a bicycle up a long steep > >hill). (2, 3) Both occasions were angry, fearful, feeling helpless > >situations. I was not using CS the first time. I probably was using CS > >occasionally the last time which was the smallest and quickest to go. > >Some things seemed to help. Slices of raw cucumber on the closed eyelid > >as long and often as I could, and eating cucumber to get the lymphatic > >system going to drain the dramatic redness from the eye. Vitamin A or > >Beta carotene to toughen the skin, to stop the leak and prevent > >recurrence. On the last occasion very dilute H2O2 dropped in the eye to > >make the redness go away. > > > >Teach her meditation or relaxation methods. > > > >Tony > > > >Janet Lubart wrote: > >> > >> Hi everyone. > >> Would anyone know if CS has any blood thinning qualities? My 80 year old > >> mother takes 1teaspoon a couple times a week as well as sprays it in her > >> eyes on occasion when exposed to sick kids. Yesterday , she developed a > >> blood clot(bright red) on the white part of her eye that is sticking out > >> over a fourth of an inch. Opthomalogist says it is not serious and > >> eventually it will go away. He did ask her if she is taking > aspirin.(no)She > >> is also taking COQ10(100mg a day) garlic(only one a day), strong > >> multiple,cal/mag, vitamin C, SAme, > >> Echinacia with goldenseal on occasion, bilberry and lutein which has > haulted > >> macular degeneration. > >> Does anyone know of a good source on the net or book that can help us > decide > >> which of these life prolonging supplements she can or cannot continue and > >> learn about combinations. She takes Advil on occasion. My concern is > that > >> if she can develop one blood clot in her eye , she may have the > possibility > >> of developing clots in other areas. > >> She says that she had not sprayed CS in at least 3 weeks and says she > never > >> rubs her eyes with it in EVEN when it burns. > >> She also takes relaxation sleeping herbs every night. > >> Incidently, many people think that she is in her late 60s. She quit all > >> supplements as of yesterday because of fear after 10+ years. > >> Thank you for our comments. > >> Sincerely, > >> Janet > >> > >> -- > >> The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > >> > >> To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > >> silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > >> with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > >> > >> To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > >> Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > >> List maintainer: Mike Devour > >
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Thank you Barb and Tony! I am so greatful to be part of this group. I will pass these messages on to my mother who was organically oriented when it really was not cool to be that way..25, 30 years ago. I can still taste that brewers yeast ! Does anyone know anything about SAme? Can it possibly affect the thyroid? She started on a moderate dose two weeks ago. After thinking about all your responses, it is the only supplement I am still concerned about. Thanks, Janet -Original Message- From: Tony Moody To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Thursday, August 24, 2000 1:02 PM Subject: Re: CS>blood thinning qualities--CS, supplements, herbs >Janet, >I have had burst blood vessel in eye on three occasions. The thing that >is consistent with them is TENSION brought on by (1) sustained heavy >physical labour. (unaccustomed pedalling a bicycle up a long steep >hill). (2, 3) Both occasions were angry, fearful, feeling helpless >situations. I was not using CS the first time. I probably was using CS >occasionally the last time which was the smallest and quickest to go. >Some things seemed to help. Slices of raw cucumber on the closed eyelid >as long and often as I could, and eating cucumber to get the lymphatic >system going to drain the dramatic redness from the eye. Vitamin A or >Beta carotene to toughen the skin, to stop the leak and prevent >recurrence. On the last occasion very dilute H2O2 dropped in the eye to >make the redness go away. > >Teach her meditation or relaxation methods. > >Tony > >Janet Lubart wrote: >> >> Hi everyone. >> Would anyone know if CS has any blood thinning qualities? My 80 year old >> mother takes 1teaspoon a couple times a week as well as sprays it in her >> eyes on occasion when exposed to sick kids. Yesterday , she developed a >> blood clot(bright red) on the white part of her eye that is sticking out >> over a fourth of an inch. Opthomalogist says it is not serious and >> eventually it will go away. He did ask her if she is taking aspirin.(no)She >> is also taking COQ10(100mg a day) garlic(only one a day), strong >> multiple,cal/mag, vitamin C, SAme, >> Echinacia with goldenseal on occasion, bilberry and lutein which has haulted >> macular degeneration. >> Does anyone know of a good source on the net or book that can help us decide >> which of these life prolonging supplements she can or cannot continue and >> learn about combinations. She takes Advil on occasion. My concern is that >> if she can develop one blood clot in her eye , she may have the possibility >> of developing clots in other areas. >> She says that she had not sprayed CS in at least 3 weeks and says she never >> rubs her eyes with it in EVEN when it burns. >> She also takes relaxation sleeping herbs every night. >> Incidently, many people think that she is in her late 60s. She quit all >> supplements as of yesterday because of fear after 10+ years. >> Thank you for our comments. >> Sincerely, >> Janet >> >> -- >> The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. >> >> To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: >> silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com >> with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. >> >> To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com >> Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html >> List maintainer: Mike Devour >
Re: CS>blood thinning qualities--CS, supplements, herbs
Janet, I have had burst blood vessel in eye on three occasions. The thing that is consistent with them is TENSION brought on by (1) sustained heavy physical labour. (unaccustomed pedalling a bicycle up a long steep hill). (2, 3) Both occasions were angry, fearful, feeling helpless situations. I was not using CS the first time. I probably was using CS occasionally the last time which was the smallest and quickest to go. Some things seemed to help. Slices of raw cucumber on the closed eyelid as long and often as I could, and eating cucumber to get the lymphatic system going to drain the dramatic redness from the eye. Vitamin A or Beta carotene to toughen the skin, to stop the leak and prevent recurrence. On the last occasion very dilute H2O2 dropped in the eye to make the redness go away. Teach her meditation or relaxation methods. Tony Janet Lubart wrote: > > Hi everyone. > Would anyone know if CS has any blood thinning qualities? My 80 year old > mother takes 1teaspoon a couple times a week as well as sprays it in her > eyes on occasion when exposed to sick kids. Yesterday , she developed a > blood clot(bright red) on the white part of her eye that is sticking out > over a fourth of an inch. Opthomalogist says it is not serious and > eventually it will go away. He did ask her if she is taking aspirin.(no)She > is also taking COQ10(100mg a day) garlic(only one a day), strong > multiple,cal/mag, vitamin C, SAme, > Echinacia with goldenseal on occasion, bilberry and lutein which has haulted > macular degeneration. > Does anyone know of a good source on the net or book that can help us decide > which of these life prolonging supplements she can or cannot continue and > learn about combinations. She takes Advil on occasion. My concern is that > if she can develop one blood clot in her eye , she may have the possibility > of developing clots in other areas. > She says that she had not sprayed CS in at least 3 weeks and says she never > rubs her eyes with it in EVEN when it burns. > She also takes relaxation sleeping herbs every night. > Incidently, many people think that she is in her late 60s. She quit all > supplements as of yesterday because of fear after 10+ years. > Thank you for our comments. > Sincerely, > Janet > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour
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Dear Janet, The CS did not cause the clot in your mothers eye. It is also not likely a clot exactly. I am assuming you are talking about a ruptured blood vessel. That happened to my husband and I around 9 years ago within weeks of one another and they were big bloody ugly things. My husbands was the worst and you could see the blood trapped in the white area of the eye. We had also both started synthetic thyroid supplements at the time, the prescription kind. The doctor told us that the syntroid had nothing to do with it, but our next door neighbor was also on synthoid and was getting the same thing. It happened to us several times until we stopped the syntroid. There are several other things that can cause this. ( I researched it) viruses for one. But the natural fragility of capiliary aging for another. Rather than stopping her supplements she may need to increase them, particularly ones that address problems of vein fragility such as the kind found in many fruits. IN fact spend a few days on some raw organic carrot juice you make youself in a juicer would not be a bad idea, I like a blend with apples to add sweetness. Drinking more water is also essential. As to a book, there are several good ones, some that are not life-extension classics. One of the Oldest are the books by Durk Pearson and Sandy Shaw called LIFE_EXTENSION-A Scientific Approach. There are lost of good books on herbals. One that is good for neophytes is THE GREEN PHARMACY. You may also want to join the Life-Extension Foundation, their magazine is always full of very high-tech leading edge articles on research in this area. Their web address is http://www.lef.org Barb Michael Lee Finney michael.fin...@acm.org michael.fin...@computer.org -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
