RE: CS How I cured my abscessed tooth with a double A battery
Tony Moody wrote wrote: The wisdom out there is DO NOT DO THIS. You are potentially putting electricity across your brain AT YOUR OWN RISK. [That said,]...I use my current controlled silver maker in my mouthIt is a small hand held device, 9v dc with 1mA nominal output. I've just checked The open circuit volts across the probes is at 7.8v. Output is 0.842mA max. and it is 0,09 v across the probes thenI would prod and then hold for 30 seconds to 1 minute and then change the prod position to try to find another sensitive or reactive place. Then swap polarity and do it again. [and to Lois] I would NOT use a TENS device on my head, nor directly along my spine. On the other hand I am quite happy using low voltage (3 to 12v) on my self, as long as it is current controlled, or very low voltage (1.5v) if uncontrolled. The TENS devices I looked at years ago had an output spike of about 140v dc. This is a very high voltage sharp jolt of electricity designed to get through flesh in order to dull or switch off nerves. I would not want to put that across my brain or brainstem, I have little enough of it left anyway. I have a modern APS device which I can check if you need to know for any reason. A lot of devices are on the market as TENS devices for Gov Regulatory description purposes but which are not TENS . The only way I could get the The Hulda Clark Zapper, Bob Beck blood neutralizer type devices recognised by our medicines control council, controlled by your FDA, was to describe them as TENS, which they are nowhere near. Semantics but not truthful. Tens is intrinsically a high voltage device, be very careful with where you place that. === I agree with Tony, that's a very good point. TENS units actually numb the nerve fibers and that's why people don't feel pain-the nerves aren't functioning properly! Meanwhile, the root cause of the pain is never addressed. TENS units are the gold standard by which other electromedical devices are obliged to be measured, courtesy of eff-dee-ay. But devices such as the Tennant Biomodulator use the *same amount* of current that the brain and nervous system themselves use to REPAIR tissue. Tony, I don't have the specs of the Biomodulator handy, but you can get them online-or write me privately for the paperwork and I'll send you a packet. You can read about the Biomodulator in my essay on electromedicine on my website: http://www.nenahsylver.com/free-electromedicine-article.html With the little portable rife machine: I go only to 4.2 or 4.4 volts. Best, Nenah Nenah Sylver, PhD author, the NEW Rife Handbook (2011) Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy (2004) VoiceBio and Biomodulator certification www.nenahsylver.com http://www.nenahsylver.com/ ; www.rifehandbook.com http://www.rifehandbook.com/
Re: CS How I cured my abscessed tooth with a double A battery
Hi Nenah, When you wrote With the little portable rife machine: I only go to 4.2 or 4.4 volts. are you referring the the Biomodulator or to some other unit? If it is another unit would you share the name of it and any comments you have on it? Thank you. PT From: Nenah Sylver nenahsyl...@cox.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, January 24, 2013 5:59:28 AM Subject: RE: CS How I cured my abscessed tooth with a double A battery Tony Moody wrote wrote: The wisdom out there is DO NOT DO THIS. You are potentially putting electricity across your brain AT YOUR OWN RISK. [That said,]...I use my current controlled silver maker in my mouthIt is a small hand held device, 9v dc with 1mA nominal output. I've just checked The open circuit volts across the probes is at 7.8v. Output is 0.842mA max. and it is 0,09 v across the probes thenI would prod and then hold for 30 seconds to 1 minute and then change the prod position to try to find another sensitive or reactive place. Then swap polarity and do it again. [and to Lois] I would NOT use a TENS device on my head, nor directly along my spine. On the other hand I am quite happy using low voltage (3 to 12v) on my self, as long as it is current controlled, or very low voltage (1.5v) if uncontrolled. The TENS devices I looked at years ago had an output spike of about 140v dc. This is a very high voltage sharp jolt of electricity designed to get through flesh in order to dull or switch off nerves. I would not want to put that across my brain or brainstem, I have little enough of it left anyway. I have a modern APS device which I can check if you need to know for any reason. A lot of devices are on the market as TENS devices for Gov Regulatory description purposes but which are not TENS . The only way I could get the The Hulda Clark Zapper, Bob Beck blood neutralizer type devices recognised by our medicines control council, controlled by your FDA, was to describe them as TENS, which they are nowhere near. Semantics but not truthful. Tens is intrinsically a high voltage device, be very careful with where you place that. === I agree with Tony, that’s a very good point. TENS units actually numb the nerve fibers and that’s why people don’t feel pain—the nerves aren’t functioning properly! Meanwhile, the root cause of the pain is never addressed. TENS units are the “gold standard” by which other electromedical devices are obliged to be measured, courtesy of eff-dee-ay. But devices such as the Tennant Biomodulator use the *same amount* of current that the brain and nervous system themselves use to REPAIR tissue. Tony, I don’t have the specs of the Biomodulator handy, but you can get them online—or write me privately for the paperwork and I’ll send you a packet. You can read about the Biomodulator in my essay on electromedicine on my website: http://www.nenahsylver.com/free-electromedicine-article.html With the little portable rife machine: I go only to 4.2 or 4.4 volts. Best, Nenah Nenah Sylver, PhD author, the NEW Rife Handbook (2011) Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy (2004) VoiceBio and Biomodulator certification www.nenahsylver.com ; www.rifehandbook.com
Re: CS How I cured my abscessed tooth with a double A battery
Good advice Nenah ! Tel Tofflemire From: Nenah Sylver nenahsyl...@cox.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 3:59 AM Subject: RE: CS How I cured my abscessed tooth with a double A battery Tony Moody wrote wrote: The wisdom out there is DO NOT DO THIS. You are potentially putting electricity across your brain AT YOUR OWN RISK. [That said,]...I use my current controlled silver maker in my mouthIt is a small hand held device, 9v dc with 1mA nominal output. I've just checked The open circuit volts across the probes is at 7.8v. Output is 0.842mA max. and it is 0,09 v across the probes thenI would prod and then hold for 30 seconds to 1 minute and then change the prod position to try to find another sensitive or reactive place. Then swap polarity and do it again. [and to Lois] I would NOT use a TENS device on my head, nor directly along my spine. On the other hand I am quite happy using low voltage (3 to 12v) on my self, as long as it is current controlled, or very low voltage (1.5v) if uncontrolled. The TENS devices I looked at years ago had an output spike of about 140v dc. This is a very high voltage sharp jolt of electricity designed to get through flesh in order to dull or switch off nerves. I would not want to put that across my brain or brainstem, I have little enough of it left anyway. I have a modern APS device which I can check if you need to know for any reason. A lot of devices are on the market as TENS devices for Gov Regulatory description purposes but which are not TENS . The only way I could get the The Hulda Clark Zapper, Bob Beck blood neutralizer type devices recognised by our medicines control council, controlled by your FDA, was to describe them as TENS, which they are nowhere near. Semantics but not truthful. Tens is intrinsically a high voltage device, be very careful with where you place that. === I agree with Tony, that’s a very good point. TENS units actually numb the nerve fibers and that’s why people don’t feel pain—the nerves aren’t functioning properly! Meanwhile, the root cause of the pain is never addressed. TENS units are the “gold standard” by which other electromedical devices are obliged to be measured, courtesy of eff-dee-ay. But devices such as the Tennant Biomodulator use the *same amount* of current that the brain and nervous system themselves use to REPAIR tissue. Tony, I don’t have the specs of the Biomodulator handy, but you can get them online—or write me privately for the paperwork and I’ll send you a packet. You can read about the Biomodulator in my essay on electromedicine on my website: http://www.nenahsylver.com/free-electromedicine-article.html With the little portable rife machine: I go only to 4.2 or 4.4 volts. Best, Nenah Nenah Sylver, PhD author, the NEW Rife Handbook (2011) Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy (2004) VoiceBio and Biomodulator certification www.nenahsylver.com ; www.rifehandbook.com
RE: CS How I cured my abscessed tooth with a double A battery
People have been talking about using electrical current directly in the mouth using wires or pads to carry the current. Current directly in the mouth never felt good to me. So here's what I do: I put electrode patches on the OUTSIDE of either cheek, or somewhere at the jaw where the pain is the strongest. Inside my mouth is salt water that I hold for the duration of the session. The salt water ensures good conduction, as the electrical current does reach all areas of the mouth. I make sure to start with my mouth about half filled with salt water, because by the time the session is over my mouth is completely filled with liquid on account of increased saliva production. Of course, I spit out the water when I'm finished, into the trash. Each session ranges from 30 - 60 minutes, however long I can hold the salt water. Even after one session I feel relief. For these sessions, I use a portable frequency generator (a rife machine) that I wear around my waist. Frequencies used are commonly all below 1000 hertz. This is important, because the lower frequencies have longer wavelengths and so pass through thicker structures than the higher frequencies do. However, within these parameters, it appears that more important than the frequency itself is the salt water, which conducts the current. I suppose a zapper-type instrument or the Tennant Biomodulator (which I own and use a lot) would suffice as well. Nenah Nenah Sylver, PhD author, the NEW Rife Handbook (2011) Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy (2004) VoiceBio and Biomodulator certification http://www.nenahsylver.com www.nenahsylver.com; http://www.rifehandbook.com www.rifehandbook.com
RE: CS How I cured my abscessed tooth with a double A battery
Nenah, All you need to rid yourself of a bacterial tooth or tooth root infection is a flashlight battery, some wires, sponges, and elastic bands. Attach the wires to either end of the battery with solder (not 9 volts. too stong!), strip the ends and attach sponges to cover them, wrap elastic bands around to hold them in place. Wet them with some salt water and apply them to either side of the tooth that is infected. Hold them in place for 4 or 5 minutes, then switch them around (to change the polarity). After another 4 or 5 minutes you're done. Repeat the next day or as needed. One session is usually sufficient although I always do two or three just to make sure. It never fails. Go to microelectricitygermkiller group on Yahoo for info and schematics if you're interested. Bob _ From: Nenah Sylver [mailto:nenahsyl...@cox.net] Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 6:31 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CS How I cured my abscessed tooth with a double A battery People have been talking about using electrical current directly in the mouth using wires or pads to carry the current. Current directly in the mouth never felt good to me. So here's what I do: I put electrode patches on the OUTSIDE of either cheek, or somewhere at the jaw where the pain is the strongest. Inside my mouth is salt water that I hold for the duration of the session. The salt water ensures good conduction, as the electrical current does reach all areas of the mouth. I make sure to start with my mouth about half filled with salt water, because by the time the session is over my mouth is completely filled with liquid on account of increased saliva production. Of course, I spit out the water when I'm finished, into the trash. Each session ranges from 30 - 60 minutes, however long I can hold the salt water. Even after one session I feel relief. For these sessions, I use a portable frequency generator (a rife machine) that I wear around my waist. Frequencies used are commonly all below 1000 hertz. This is important, because the lower frequencies have longer wavelengths and so pass through thicker structures than the higher frequencies do. However, within these parameters, it appears that more important than the frequency itself is the salt water, which conducts the current. I suppose a zapper-type instrument or the Tennant Biomodulator (which I own and use a lot) would suffice as well. Nenah Nenah Sylver, PhD author, the NEW Rife Handbook (2011) Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy (2004) VoiceBio and Biomodulator certification http://www.nenahsylver.com www.nenahsylver.com; http://www.rifehandbook.com www.rifehandbook.com
RE: CS How I cured my abscessed tooth with a double A battery
Jim,
A Tens unit will not work. You need DC current. A 1 ½ or 3 volt
battery works well. Not 9 volts, way too strong and dangerous.
Bob
_
From: Jim Holmes [mailto:gooogleis...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 11:52 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS How I cured my abscessed tooth with a double A battery
Very interesting. I am interested in knowing what happens long term.
I wonder if a TENS device could be used in the same manner. Higher voltage,
pulsed.
They even come with conductive pads.
Very pure distilled water is an insulator.
Lois,
Thank you for the info. I am interested in follow up. It stopped it. Now,
can the nerve recover full functioning?
May I have your permission to copy and paste your mail complete and
unaltered except to remove anything you desire?
Later,
Jim
On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 4:53 PM, zzekel...@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 1/20/2013 6:35:19 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
jsmpren...@sbcglobal.net writes:
Hi,
Anyone know if DMSO and homemade silver could help an abscessed tooth and
prevent a root canal? If so what would be the protocol please.
Thanks, Sandy
{ It's a yahoo group germkillersignin
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/microelectricitygermkiller/?v=1t=sear
chch=webpub=groupssec=groupslk=1 Hi Sandy, I cured a really
bad abscess with a double A battery. Had them before had to take mega
doses of antibiotics before I started learning about alternatives.
This is what I did.--- {{I used it let Bg know on the electricgermkiller
sit.--It was put in the archive with my instructions. he asked for pictures
of how I built it but I never took any sent them..I should but it is so
easy-}}I took about 6-8 inches of lamp wire---pulled it in
halfcleaned the rubber / plastic on each end of both wires--{ about 3/4
inches } I soldered one end of one wire to the pos. post on the battery
one end of the other wire on the negative end On the other bare ends I
wrapped a small piece of cotton cloth. { I used a needle thread to keep it
in place | I soaked the cloth end of each wire in distilled water-Put
the cloth end of one wire in my mouth as close to the abscess as I could get
it the other wire outside on the big bump on my jaw..I held them in
place for 5 mins. then switched positions ---inside wire out * outside wire
in {thus changing the polarity } held it for 5 mins. .
I did this in the evening before bed time..rinsed my mouth with hydrogen
peroxide / distilled water then CS /EIS... I did the same thing the next
morning again in the eveningThe next morning when I got up the
swelling was almost gone no more problems since...This was several months
agoNO- you can't feel a thing as far as electric current passing through
the jaw... I even used it to cure my Grandson's cold sore an infected big
toe Good luck--Lois
Re: CS How I cured my abscessed tooth with a double A battery
In a message dated 1/23/2013 2:51:47 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, gooogleis...@gmail.com writes: I never did go to the dentist never to this day have had any more problems with the tooth... Lois I wonder if a TENS device could be used in the same manner. Higher voltage, pulsed. They even come with conductive pads. Very pure distilled water is an insulator. Lois, Thank you for the info. I am interested in follow up. It stopped it. Now, can the nerve recover full functioning? May I have your permission to copy and paste your mail complete and unaltered except to remove anything you desire? Later, Jim
Re: CS How I cured my abscessed tooth with a double A battery
In a message dated 1/23/2013 9:30:47 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, nenahsyl...@cox.net writes: People have been talking about using electrical current directly in the mouth using wires or pads to carry the current. I only used a double A battery. The current was so low I didn't feel anything but it did the job...Some folks use the 6 volt lantern battery to make the Godzilla it works great for many infections.. Lois
Re: CS How I cured my abscessed tooth with a double A battery
So how do you actually rig it up? - Original Message - From: zzekel...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 12:41 PM Subject: Re: CS How I cured my abscessed tooth with a double A battery In a message dated 1/23/2013 9:30:47 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, nenahsyl...@cox.net writes: People have been talking about using electrical current directly in the mouth using wires or pads to carry the current. I only used a double A battery. The current was so low I didn't feel anything but it did the job...Some folks use the 6 volt lantern battery to make the Godzilla it works great for many infections.. Lois No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2890 / Virus Database: 2639/6045 - Release Date: 01/20/13
Re: CS How I cured my abscessed tooth with a double A battery
Hi Nenah, The wisdom out there is DO NOT DO THIS. You are potentially putting electricity across your brain AT YOUR OWN RISK. :-)) I use my current controlled silver maker in my mouth. Recently used it on an nasty, painful, swollen eye-tooth root over the holidays. No dentist, no doctor around. It took a few days of doing it a few times a day, for the swelling to subside suddenly over night. Sweet. It is a small hand held device, 9v dc with 1mA nominal output. I've just checked The open circuit volts across the probes is at 7.8v. Output is 0.842mA max. and it is 0,09 v across the probes then. The regulation of the current control circuit is pretty good so output may alter a tiny bit with a fresh battery. Procedure: I held one electrode, wetted, in a hand and placed the other electrode on the tooth or on the gum surrounding. I think 'prodded gingerly' would describe the procedure. I would prod and then hold for 30 seconds to 1 minute and then change the prod position to try to find another sensitive or reactive place. Then swap polarity and do it again. The feeling was never exquisite nor even near to bring tears but it was momentarily feelable in various ways. The level of stimulation always reduced immediately (a second or two) to an interesting, observable phenomena. The feeling varied from just a prod feeling, to sharp, quick, thin, internal tooth pain, like hot liquid on a cracked tooth to a dull meaty, bone internal pain, to a sharp prickles on the gum line. I also suspect that the feeling alters when polarity is reversed; difficult to say because I was manually swapping electrode positions rather than changing polarity without altering position. Nevertheless, I'm fairly sure that one polarity is less stimulatory than the other. I'm not sure which is more healing but i usually try to end the procedure with the 'quieter' one. I used basically the same procedure for a rather ugly, crusty, red, hot, painful, chronic infection (3 to 5 years) in corner of mouth, Herpes? Thats what the doc thought it was and it was definitely made worse by stress of almost any sort. It took two mornings of about two minutes each to fix. The skin healed over in a few days but it returned after a month or so. I carried on doing the electricity trick whenever it reappeared and tho' it is not totally gone, it is at least a year ago since I last needed to do it. BTW Nice one Nenah, about keeping salt solution in mouth and putting the 'trodes outside across the cheeks. I'm going to try that . What Voltage do you use? 30 to 60 minutes, Wow, that is a long time. I see why you use the stick on patches. Tony Moody On 23 Jan 2013 at 7:30, Nenah Sylver wrote: People have been talking about using electrical current directly in the mouth using wires or pads to carry the current. Current directly in the mouth never felt good to me. So here's what I do: I put electrode patches on the OUTSIDE of either cheek, or somewhere at the jaw where the pain is the strongest. Inside my mouth is salt water that I hold for the duration of the session. The salt water ensures good conduction, as the electrical current does reach all areas of the mouth. I make sure to start with my mouth about half filled with salt water, because by the time the session is over my mouth is completely filled with liquid on account of increased saliva production. Of course, I spit out the water when I'm finished, into the trash. Each session ranges from 30 - 60 minutes, however long I can hold the salt water. Even after one session I feel relief. For these sessions, I use a portable frequency generator (a rife machine) that I wear around my waist. Frequencies used are commonly all below 1000 hertz. This is important, because the lower frequencies have longer wavelengths and so pass through thicker structures than the higher frequencies do. However, within these parameters, it appears that more important than the frequency itself is the salt water, which conducts the current. I suppose a zapper-type instrument or the Tennant Biomodulator (which I own and use a lot) would suffice as well. Nenah Nenah Sylver, PhD author, the NEW Rife Handbook (2011) Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy (2004) VoiceBio and Biomodulator certification http://www.nenahsylver.com www.nenahsylver.com; http://www.rifehandbook.com www.rifehandbook.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS How I cured my abscessed tooth with a double A battery
Hi Lois, I would NOT use a TENS device on my head, nor directly along my spine. On the other hand I am quite happy using low voltage (3 to 12v) on my self, as long as it is current controlled, or very low voltage (1.5v) if uncontrolled. The TENS devices I looked at years ago had an output spike of about 140v dc. This is a very high voltage sharp jolt of electricity designed to get through flesh in order to dull or switch off nerves. I would not want to put that across my brain or brainstem, I have little enough of it left anyway. I have a modern APS device which I can check if you need to know for any reason. A lot of devices are on the market as TENS devices for Gov Regulatory description purposes but which are not TENS . The only way I could get the The Hulda Clark Zapper, Bob Beck blood neutralizer type devices recognised by our medicines control council, controlled by your FDA, was to describe them as TENS, which they are nowhere near. Semantics but not truthful. Tens is intrinsically a high voltage device, be very careful with where you place that. OK, Tony On 23 Jan 2013 at 20:36, zzekel...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 1/23/2013 2:51:47 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, gooogleis...@gmail.com writes: I never did go to the dentist never to this day have had any more problems with the tooth... Lois I wonder if a TENS device could be used in the same manner. Higher voltage, pulsed. They even come with conductive pads. Very pure distilled water is an insulator. Lois, Thank you for the info. I am interested in follow up. It stopped it. Now, can the nerve recover full functioning? May I have your permission to copy and paste your mail complete and unaltered except to remove anything you desire? Later, Jim -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS How I cured my abscessed tooth with a double A battery
Very interesting. I am interested in knowing what happens long term.
I wonder if a TENS device could be used in the same manner. Higher
voltage, pulsed.
They even come with conductive pads.
Very pure distilled water is an insulator.
Lois,
Thank you for the info. I am interested in follow up. It stopped it.
Now, can the nerve recover full functioning?
May I have your permission to copy and paste your mail complete and
unaltered except to remove anything you desire?
Later,
Jim
On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 4:53 PM, zzekel...@aol.com wrote:
**
In a message dated 1/20/2013 6:35:19 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
jsmpren...@sbcglobal.net writes:
Hi,
Anyone know if DMSO and homemade silver could help an abscessed tooth and
prevent a root canal? If so what would be the protocol please.
Thanks, Sandy
* { It's a yahoo group
**germkillersigninhttp://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/microelectricitygermkiller/?v=1t=searchch=webpub=groupssec=groupslk=1
Hi Sandy, I cured a really bad abscess with a double A battery. Had them
before had to take mega doses of antibiotics before I started learning
about alternatives. *
*This is what I did.---* * {{*I used it let Bg know on the
electricgermkiller sit.--It was put in the archive with my instructions. he
asked for pictures of how I built it but I never took any sent them..I
should but it is so easy*-}}*I took about 6-8 inches of lamp
wire---pulled it in halfcleaned the rubber / plastic on each end of
both wires--{ about 3/4 inches } I soldered one end of one wire to the
pos. post on the battery one end of the other wire on the negative
end On the other bare ends I wrapped a small piece of cotton cloth. { I
used a needle thread to keep it in place | I soaked the cloth end of
each wire in distilled water-Put the cloth end of one wire in my mouth
as close to the abscess as I could get it the other wire outside on the
big bump on my jaw..I held them in place for 5 mins. then switched
positions ---inside wire out * outside wire in {thus changing the polarity
} held it for 5 mins. .
* I did this in the evening before bed time..rinsed my mouth with
hydrogen peroxide / distilled water then CS /EIS... I did the same
thing the next morning again in the eveningThe next morning when I
got up the swelling was almost gone no more problems since...This was
several months agoNO- you can't feel a thing as far as electric current
passing through the jaw... I even used it to cure my Grandson's cold sore
an infected big toe Good luck--Lois *
