Re: CS>Blood vessel health - Vit C and corn
No Paula, he is really healthy according to the doctors tests etc., he has normal blood pressure, sugar, cholesterol is a bit low I think, liver tests everything is what they call 'normal' so it is even more puzzling. Thank you for your suggestion. Dee ---Original Message--- From: Paula Perry Date: 06/26/08 12:16:01 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Blood vessel health - Vit C and corn Hi Dee, Bilberry has been historically used for eye conditions. Might be worth googling. I am wondering if this isn't caused by some other underlying condition or medication that he is taking, that needs to be addressed. Does he have any conditions like high blood pressure or diabetes, etc? What meds? Paula
Re: CS>Blood vessel health - Vit C and corn
Hi Dee, Bilberry has been historically used for eye conditions. Might be worth googling. I am wondering if this isn't caused by some other underlying condition or medication that he is taking, that needs to be addressed. Does he have any conditions like high blood pressure or diabetes, etc? What meds? Paula - Original Message - From: Dee To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 1:38 PM Subject: Re: CS>Blood vessel health - Vit C and corn They are definitely on the outside Nancy, and I have already bought some thank you. Dee ---Original Message--- From: Tad Winiecki Date: 25/06/2008 18:04:30 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Blood vessel health - Vit C and corn Dee- My husband's hemorrhages were in the retina, resulting in floaters. It sounds like your husband's are in the white of the eye where they are visible? Is any of the blood inside the eye fluids on just on the outside? I still think the bioflavonoids would be helpful. Nancy On Jun 25, 2008, at 3:15 AM, Dee wrote:
Re: CS>Blood vessel health - Vit C and corn
They are definitely on the outside Nancy, and I have already bought some thank you. Dee ---Original Message--- From: Tad Winiecki Date: 25/06/2008 18:04:30 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Blood vessel health - Vit C and corn Dee- My husband's hemorrhages were in the retina, resulting in floaters. It sounds like your husband's are in the white of the eye where they are visible? Is any of the blood inside the eye fluids on just on the outside? I still think the bioflavonoids would be helpful. Nancy On Jun 25, 2008, at 3:15 AM, Dee wrote:
Re: CS>Blood vessel health - Vit C and corn
Dee- My husband's hemorrhages were in the retina, resulting in floaters. It sounds like your husband's are in the white of the eye where they are visible? Is any of the blood inside the eye fluids on just on the outside? I still think the bioflavonoids would be helpful. Nancy On Jun 25, 2008, at 3:15 AM, Dee wrote: You are right Nancy and he does do manual work, but he does have these things often and just out of the blue. Like we were sitting in the lounge and his eye was ok and then a while later I looked and it had filled all one side with blood. And sometimes he wakes up with it. It is always the same eye as well. Dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>Blood vessel health - Vit C and corn
I have a friend who had that problem a laser solved it, since the bleed was always in the same place. Judy Down Maine __ "Vero Possumus" -Original Message- From: Dee [mailto:d...@deetroy.org] Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 6:15 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Blood vessel health - Vit C and corn You are right Nancy and he does do manual work, but he does have these things often and just out of the blue. Like we were sitting in the lounge and his eye was ok and then a while later I looked and it had filled all one side with blood. And sometimes he wakes up with it. It is always the same eye as well. Dee It's possible to overlook the obvious. My husband had 2 eye hemorrhages. The first was when he was breaking up a concrete patio with a sledge hammer. He also took a capsule of 140,000 Cayenne pepper the same day. Which would you blame? Nancy --
Re: CS>Blood vessel health - Vit C and corn
You are right Nancy and he does do manual work, but he does have these things often and just out of the blue. Like we were sitting in the lounge and his eye was ok and then a while later I looked and it had filled all one side with blood. And sometimes he wakes up with it. It is always the same eye as well. Dee It's possible to overlook the obvious. My husband had 2 eye hemorrhages. The first was when he was breaking up a concrete patio with a sledge hammer. He also took a capsule of 140,000 Cayenne pepper the same day. Which would you blame? Nancy --
Re: CS>Blood vessel health - Vit C and corn
On Jun 24, 2008, at 11:15 AM, Dee wrote: Yes but the C he was first having was in a food form and 'bio transformed' by a culture of Saccharomyces cerevisia. The second form was just ascorbic acid, but you may well be right about the lysine. It is just that other forms of blood thinners, for want of a better word, seem to have the same effect. Dee It's possible to overlook the obvious. My husband had 2 eye hemorrhages. The first was when he was breaking up a concrete patio with a sledge hammer. He also took a capsule of 140,000 Cayenne pepper the same day. Which would you blame? The second bleed was when I was doing some heavy lifting and bending. He hasn't had another one for a long time. There are herb combinations like Dr. Christopher's formula and also ones with lutein, bilberry, etc. that can be taken internally. Nancy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Blood vessel health - Vit C and corn
You are probably right Chuck, and the Vit C - lysine thing was supposed to be Linus Paulings recommended protocol. I suppose it is the old adage i.e. What suits one, will not suit another. Dee ---Original Message--- From: cking...@nycap.rr.com Date: 24/06/2008 20:10:29 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Blood vessel health - Vit C and corn Well Back in the seventies, it was Linus Pauling's "Vitamin C and the Common Cold" that started me into becoming a megavitamin freak. In all the time since, I've never heard of C being a blood thinner, and because I have a heart condition, I am vitally interested in blood thinners (desirable in my case). C and the bioflavenoids strengthen tissue. A specific for bleeding gums. C is a specific for scurvy, which sounds like the symptoms you describe. C has alway been a major cornerstone of my personal health regimen. I take 8 to 16 grams daily. I have never differentiated as to type, I take plain ascorbic acid. I look upon those that prefer non-corn sources or other C preparations as nitpickers with money to spare, as my experience doesn't justify it. But it all comes down to self experimentation. YMMV Chuck Two antennae's meet on a roof, fall in love get married. The ceremony wasn't much but the reception was brilliant.
Re: CS>Blood vessel health - Vit C and corn
Well Back in the seventies, it was Linus Pauling's "Vitamin C and the Common Cold" that started me into becoming a megavitamin freak. In all the time since, I've never heard of C being a blood thinner, and because I have a heart condition, I am vitally interested in blood thinners (desirable in my case). C and the bioflavenoids strengthen tissue. A specific for bleeding gums. C is a specific for scurvy, which sounds like the symptoms you describe. C has alway been a major cornerstone of my personal health regimen. I take 8 to 16 grams daily. I have never differentiated as to type, I take plain ascorbic acid. I look upon those that prefer non-corn sources or other C preparations as nitpickers with money to spare, as my experience doesn't justify it. But it all comes down to self experimentation. YMMV Chuck Two antennae's meet on a roof, fall in love get married. The ceremony wasn't much but the reception was brilliant. On 6/24/2008 2:15:36 PM, Dee (d...@deetroy.org) wrote: > Yes but the C he was first having was in a food form and 'bio transformed' > by a culture of Saccharomyces cerevisia. The second form was just ascorbic > acid, but you may well be right about the lysine. It is just that other > forms of blood thinners, for want of a better word, seem to have the same > effect. Dee > > ---Original Message--- > > From: cking...@nycap.rr.com > Date: 24/06/2008 18:39:04 > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: Re: CS>Blood vessel health - Vit C and corn > > > So... > You've been giving him C without problem, > Then C with Lysine and a problem develops, > And you conclude C is what did it? > > Wouldn't > be MY logic... No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.4.1/1515 - Release Date: 6/23/2008 7:16 PM
Re: CS>Blood vessel health - Vit C and corn
Yes but the C he was first having was in a food form and 'bio transformed' by a culture of Saccharomyces cerevisia. The second form was just ascorbic acid, but you may well be right about the lysine. It is just that other forms of blood thinners, for want of a better word, seem to have the same effect. Dee ---Original Message--- From: cking...@nycap.rr.com Date: 24/06/2008 18:39:04 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Blood vessel health - Vit C and corn So... You've been giving him C without problem, Then C with Lysine and a problem develops, And you conclude C is what did it? Wouldn't be MY logic...
Re: CS>Blood vessel health - Vit C and corn
So... You've been giving him C without problem, Then C with Lysine and a problem develops, And you conclude C is what did it? Wouldn't be MY logic... Chuck "Doc, I can't stop singing 'The green, green grass of home.'" "That sounds like Tom Jones syndrome." "Is it common?" "It's not unusual." On 6/24/2008 9:08:14 AM, Dee (d...@deetroy.org) wrote: > Oh dear, I thought Wayne said that Vit C *was* Vit C no matter what type > it was! I get mine from Higher Nature which I thought was a good brand. I > know that when my husband was having their True Food type, we didn't have any > problems, but as soon as I gave him the 1000mg one with lysine, he had a > bleed in the eye. Back to the drawing board I suppose. I have found a > bioflavonoid in the cupboard though, that I bought a while ago. It is > grapeseed extract which is supposed to be good for this condition. Any views? > Dee > > ---Original Message--- % No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.4.1/1515 - Release Date: 6/23/2008 7:16 PM
Re: CS>Blood vessel health - Vit C and corn
Oh dear, I thought Wayne said that Vit C *was* Vit C no matter what type it was! I get mine from Higher Nature which I thought was a good brand. I know that when my husband was having their True Food type, we didn't have any problems, but as soon as I gave him the 1000mg one with lysine, he had a bleed in the eye. Back to the drawing board I suppose. I have found a bioflavonoid in the cupboard though, that I bought a while ago. It is grapeseed extract which is supposed to be good for this condition. Any views? Dee ---Original Message--- From: Rowena Date: 06/24/08 12:25:51 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Blood vessel health - Vit C and corn There is Vit C, and then there is rubbish. Too much of the Rubbish is garbage, and bad for you garbage at that. Daddybob can tell us about Rubbish marketed as Vit C. He even found some with mold growing on it. Also, a lot of it is made from Corn. Willisprotocols group publilshed this website today: http://commongroundmag com/2008/05/healthyliving0805.html the ubiquity of corn in the American diet Even Xanthan gum in some coconut milk (corn).
Re: CS>Blood vessel health - Vit C and corn
There is Vit C, and then there is rubbish. Too much of the Rubbish is garbage, and bad for you garbage at that. Daddybob can tell us about Rubbish marketed as Vit C. He even found some with mold growing on it. Also, a lot of it is made from Corn. Willisprotocols group publilshed this website today: http://commongroundmag.com/2008/05/healthyliving0805.html the ubiquity of corn in the American diet Even Xanthan gum in some coconut milk (corn). Rowena - Well I was told that Vit C would also strengthen blood vessels but as I said, this only seemed to make things worse. I have no idea why, other than it is a natural blood thinner and maybe this caused leakage in a weakened area. I believe the vit c I used had added bioflavinoids. Thanks for input. Dee
