RE: CS>CS & MS

2005-03-26 Thread elle roberts

Ernie,

Are you for real?

I am so sad about that.

elle




From: "Yogiboy" 
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Subject: RE: CS>CS & MS
Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 23:11:02 -0500

I don't believe she has. However , I was just informed by her homeopath
to stop with the cs to see if it is interfering with the remedy she
prescribed to her. She has been taking both for some time now.



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Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2005 9:24 AM
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Ernie,
Has your sister tried the CS H202 protocol?

elle
>From: "Yogiboy" 
>Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>To: 
>Subject: RE: CS>CS & MS
>Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 14:34:22 -0500
>
>Hi Nina,
>
>Would you be able to elaborate on this?
>My sister has MS and she's been seeing Louise( homeopath )here in
>Toronto.
>She is the person who's name I sent to you some time back.
>I would like to know more about Dr. Dean's protocol for using CS.
>
>Many thanks.
>
>Ernie
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Nina Whit [mailto:ninaw...@webtv.net]
>Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 1:59 PM
>To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>Subject: Re: CS>CS & MS
>
>Mycoplasma is thought to be the cause of MS=== Ward Dean MD has a
>protocol for This using IV Cs
>
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RE: CS>CS & MS

2005-03-26 Thread Yogiboy
I don't believe she has. However , I was just informed by her homeopath
to stop with the cs to see if it is interfering with the remedy she
prescribed to her. She has been taking both for some time now.



-Original Message-
From: elle roberts [mailto:elle_robe...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2005 9:24 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>CS & MS


Ernie,
Has your sister tried the CS H202 protocol?

elle
>From: "Yogiboy" 
>Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>To: 
>Subject: RE: CS>CS & MS
>Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 14:34:22 -0500
>
>Hi Nina,
>
>Would you be able to elaborate on this?
>My sister has MS and she's been seeing Louise( homeopath )here in
>Toronto.
>She is the person who's name I sent to you some time back.
>I would like to know more about Dr. Dean's protocol for using CS.
>
>Many thanks.
>
>Ernie
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Nina Whit [mailto:ninaw...@webtv.net]
>Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 1:59 PM
>To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>Subject: Re: CS>CS & MS
>
>Mycoplasma is thought to be the cause of MS=== Ward Dean MD has a
>protocol for This using IV Cs
>
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RE: CS>CS & MS

2005-03-26 Thread elle roberts


Ernie,
Has your sister tried the CS H202 protocol?

elle

From: "Yogiboy" 
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To: 
Subject: RE: CS>CS & MS
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 14:34:22 -0500

Hi Nina,

Would you be able to elaborate on this?
My sister has MS and she's been seeing Louise( homeopath )here in
Toronto.
She is the person who's name I sent to you some time back.
I would like to know more about Dr. Dean's protocol for using CS.

Many thanks.

Ernie

-Original Message-
From: Nina Whit [mailto:ninaw...@webtv.net]
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 1:59 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>CS & MS

Mycoplasma is thought to be the cause of MS=== Ward Dean MD has a
protocol for This using IV Cs


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RE: CS>CS & MS

2005-03-25 Thread Jim Holmes
Why poke when you can inhale? 

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Mycoplasma is thought to be the cause of MS=== Ward Dean MD has a
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Re: CS>CS & MS

2005-03-24 Thread Debb Bos
I would really appreciate the info. alsoI have been taking CS for 2wks. 
started at 1oz. 3 times a day.now I am up to 16 oz. adayI am just going to 
stay at this amount.

Debb
From: "Yogiboy" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 11:34 AM
Subject: RE: CS>CS & MS



Hi Nina,

Would you be able to elaborate on this?
My sister has MS and she's been seeing Louise( homeopath )here in
Toronto.
She is the person who's name I sent to you some time back.
I would like to know more about Dr. Dean's protocol for using CS.

Many thanks.

Ernie

-Original Message-
From: Nina Whit [mailto:ninaw...@webtv.net]
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 1:59 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>CS & MS

Mycoplasma is thought to be the cause of MS=== Ward Dean MD has a
protocol for This using IV Cs


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Re: CS>CS & MS

2005-03-24 Thread bob smith
I have a neighbor who was diagnosed as having MS about 8 years ago. 2 years
ago this month I got him to start taking about a pt. of EIS a day that I
would make for him.  At the time he started taking it his symptoms were very
noticable. Today there is no sign of any MS.  I had been encouraged to get
him to try it by Nancy (where are you, Nancy).  If I recall correctly, she
was in a wheel chair when she started on CS and made a remarkable recovery.
Bob Smith


- Original Message -
From: "Yogiboy" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 1:34 PM
Subject: RE: CS>CS & MS


> Hi Nina,
>
> Would you be able to elaborate on this?
> My sister has MS and she's been seeing Louise( homeopath )here in
> Toronto.
> She is the person who's name I sent to you some time back.
> I would like to know more about Dr. Dean's protocol for using CS.
>
> Many thanks.
>
> Ernie
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Nina Whit [mailto:ninaw...@webtv.net]
> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 1:59 PM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>CS & MS
>
> Mycoplasma is thought to be the cause of MS=== Ward Dean MD has a
> protocol for This using IV Cs
>
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RE: CS>CS & MS

2005-03-24 Thread Yogiboy
Hi Nina,

Would you be able to elaborate on this?
My sister has MS and she's been seeing Louise( homeopath )here in
Toronto.
She is the person who's name I sent to you some time back.
I would like to know more about Dr. Dean's protocol for using CS.

Many thanks.

Ernie

-Original Message-
From: Nina Whit [mailto:ninaw...@webtv.net] 
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 1:59 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>CS & MS

Mycoplasma is thought to be the cause of MS=== Ward Dean MD has a
protocol for This using IV Cs


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Re: CS>CS & MS

2005-03-24 Thread Nina Whit
Mycoplasma is thought to be the cause of MS=== Ward Dean MD has a
protocol for This using IV Cs


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Re: CS>CS-MS NOW milk of kindness...

2005-03-02 Thread Himagain

Hi there,
In clarification, the prohibition probably stands .. on the grounds 
that as I pointed out in Yet Another Erudite Group (YAEG)  Kefir is a 
processed food - albeit by being eaten and poo'ed out by bacterium - which 
allows humans to drink the milk of another absolutely non-related species 
that is normally definitely not how you were designed to ingest  stuff.  :-)

A bit like adding CS to raw milk???

HOWEVER in the light of the tragic human "civilised" diet of today, (as 
specified) it is still vastly better than toxicated "normal" cow's/other 
animal milk and superior to all other drinks except clean unprocessed 
water. (rare).


There ya go,

Himagain.


At 06:41 PM 02/03/05, you wrote:

Question:  isn't Kefir white?   I tried some recently, thinking I was 
purchasing yogurt drink.  It was similar to yogurt drink but much more 
acidic.  (I liked it very much).  I do not mean to pick nits,  but if 
Kefir is a white food, then your first prohibition needs 
modification.  Kindly clarify.




On Monday, Feb 14, 2005, at 07:31 Asia/Tokyo, Himagain wrote:

There is a vast amount of literature out there on the subject, but 
essentially, in knowing nearly a thousand successful "terminal" Cancer 
patients,  it was found necessary to consider certain things as dangerous 
as Spitting Cobras:

Anything white.  Sugar, flour, milk, bread, etc.
Anything "fast", or long storage capable.
Actually, if it is canned, packaged, frozen, "improved" you should avoid it.
The idea is to go back to the diet of your great grandparents ( so long 
as they weren't rich) and prepare everything at home that is possible.

Three vital ingredients to survive today's depleted earth:
1.  Sprouted seeds. ( Organic ones not sprouted with 
chlorinated/fluoridated water!)

2.  Home-made unleavened (flat) bread. Spelt flour by choice. Not as corrupt.
3.  Kefir. ( Like Buttermilk)



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Re: CS>CS-MS

2005-03-02 Thread Jonathan B. Britten
Question:  isn't Kefir white?   I tried some recently, thinking I was 
purchasing yogurt drink.  It was similar to yogurt drink but much more 
acidic.  (I liked it very much).  I do not mean to pick nits,  but 
if Kefir is a white food, then your first prohibition needs 
modification.  Kindly clarify.




On Monday, Feb 14, 2005, at 07:31 Asia/Tokyo, Himagain wrote:

There is a vast amount of literature out there on the subject, but 
essentially, in knowing nearly a thousand successful "terminal" Cancer 
patients,  it was found necessary to consider certain things as 
dangerous as Spitting Cobras:

Anything white.  Sugar, flour, milk, bread, etc.
Anything "fast", or long storage capable.
Actually, if it is canned, packaged, frozen, "improved" you should 
avoid it.
The idea is to go back to the diet of your great grandparents ( so 
long as they weren't rich) and prepare everything at home that is 
possible.

Three vital ingredients to survive today's depleted earth:
1.  Sprouted seeds. ( Organic ones not sprouted with 
chlorinated/fluoridated water!)
2.  Home-made unleavened (flat) bread. Spelt flour by choice. Not as 
corrupt.

3.  Kefir. ( Like Buttermilk)



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RE: CS>CS & MS

2005-02-22 Thread Jim Holmes
Why shoot it when you can nebulize, and get the additional benefit of high
02 saturation.

The one-patient  plastic nebulizers used in ERs and Hospitals run on about
20 psi.  This is approximately 2L/Min.  

All you need is one of the nebulizers and a regulated bottle of O2.  

It probably does not produce as fine an aerosol as Brooks' team's airbrush,
but it is much easier to use, and makes a fog-like mist that will do the
job. 

I recently had a respiratory adventure culminating in a Sunday morning ER
visit.  I believe the acute asthma-like symptoms were triggered by exposure
to mouse allergens.  

I will write the full story when I get a chance. 

-Original Message-
From: Nina Whit [mailto:ninaw...@webtv.net] 
Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2005 6:39 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>CS & MS

Ward Dean MD has a IV CS protocol for MS.


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Re: CS>CS-MS

2005-02-16 Thread nancymike
Hello Betty,
I am so distressed to hear that Cathy is No better.  I do hope she is still 
taking the CS.  I am so certain that it is helping some.  MS is a 
virus...I've attached a link  to mycoplasma.  
http://mindcontrolforums.com/mycoplamsa.htm  Mycoplasma is misspelled, but this 
is correct site.

Silver kills virsus.  I can send a copy of some of the healing crisis I went 
through.  There were times that I thought I was getting worse, but that would 
be the times I would drink more CS.  But the healing crisis would pass and 
eventually something would be betterIf you send me your email address, I 
will send you a sheet describing some of my "healing crisis" episodes.  You 
stated that she is worse.  Is she still on the CS?  I did change and try a 
different brand of CS for about 4 months.  I was told it was "wonderful".  
Well, it turned out that it was truly awful and had practicly NO silver in it.  
By the end of the four months I had regressed a great deal.  It took me over 5 
years to improve about 85% from my MS, and it took me four months to go back to 
having a hard time walking again.  It was very scarey.  Certainly nothing I 
will ever do again.  I have been recovering again for the last two months, and 
I am almost back to where I was.  But I believe you and Cathy are looking for 
somethng that will never happen.  It took me five years to get 85% better.  I 
am sure there is some permanent damage, so I will never be 100%.But 
compared to what my life was like, it is a drastic improvement.  
You are correct, there is more to MS, so other suppliments and a good diet 
are importat to repair what was damaged, but first and foremost you must kill 
the cause which is mycoplasma.
Nancy
  - Original Message - 
  From: betty shelly 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 9:06 AM
  Subject: CS>CS-MS


  I have been a member of this list for over a year due to a very good friend 
who makes CS and shared it with me.  I agree it works but have found it can 
only heal what it can come in contact with in the body.  My enthusiasm for CS 
was in its application for MS for my daughter.  I bought one of the Silvergen 
products and began making CS.  After trying it for several things, I 
recommended it to my daughter who also bought the same generator making CS at 
20 ppm.  She started out at 2 oz per day and increased it to a gallon a day at 
times, always mixing it with hydrogen peroxide, as the gatorade had too much 
sugar at those doses.  She had a couple of herx reactions followed by a couple 
of days of feeling better, then the MS always returned.  She never actually 
improved but has continued to get worse.  I'm sure you all know Nancy on this 
list who has cured herself with CS.  She was in contact with my daughter over 
the past year and recommended she try the Sovereign Silver, which she did to no 
avail.  This list has some of the most intelligent and helpful people I have 
ever come in contact with, and I don't want to discourage anyone with MS from 
trying CS, but if any of you can give me suggestions as to why it failed with 
my daughter, I would be open to hear it.  MS has multiple causes and affects 
everyone differently.  Some of the most effective treatments are not allowed in 
the US because of the FDA, but don't want to get off topic here.  Thanks for 
listening.Cathy's Mom

Re: CS>CS-MS

2005-02-16 Thread Acmeair



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chueewowee wrote:




I would like to know what the silver OFFTOPIC list is.

I found related article of merit.

http://www.markpurdey.com/articles_educatingrida_8.htm



Hi folks,
Here is an interesting if scary article about mycoplasmoids.
http://tinyurl.com/4h8b9 But a better starting point if you want to
understand a far more reasonable
view of pathology is here:
http://fablor.com/matrixide/ the beginnings of a complete Course
understanding the Disease Industry.
Then come back here to the Silver OFF TOPIC list to discuss it. :-)

Himagain

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Re: CS>CS-MS

2005-02-16 Thread chueewowee


I would like to know what the silver OFFTOPIC list is.

I found related article of merit.

http://www.markpurdey.com/articles_educatingrida_8.htm




Hi folks,
Here is an interesting if scary article about mycoplasmoids.
http://tinyurl.com/4h8b9 But a better starting point if you want to
understand a far more reasonable
view of pathology is here:
http://fablor.com/matrixide/  the beginnings of a complete Course
understanding the Disease Industry.
Then come back here to the Silver OFF TOPIC list to discuss it. :-)

Himagain

This is from an earlier post.


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RE: CS>CS-MS

2005-02-15 Thread Yogiboy
Betty, 
I'm sorry but I don't know how to retrieve off topic messages.
Could u kindly e-mail me at epa...@sympatico.ca 
 
Thanks a bunch.
 
-Original Message-
From: betty shelly [mailto:pigeon2...@cox.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 10:42 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>CS-MS
 
Thanks Ernie for your post re your sister.  I have written a reply off
topic to you.


RE: CS>CS-MS

2005-02-14 Thread Yogiboy
Hello Betty,
 
I wanted to share with a situation with my sister.
She has MS now for almost 7 years, she is 30 years old and had her
thyroid removed at 15 from cancer.
Her diet has been impeccable and this has been confirmed by her
homeopathic doctor because she doesn't have much wrong with her so to
speak except for her condition. It has also been confirmed that
Mycoplasma is the culprit to her MS. So she is now on a bunch of
homeopathic medicine to help rid her body of the MS. The Chronic Fatigue
that she experiences with the loss of her thyroid may be difficult to
correct. Before all of this, she was injecting Avonex ( interferon beta)
to control the frequency of flare ups. She still takes this just as
added measure due to the onset of detoxification through her current
regimen. The doctor that she is seeing has helped many patients rid
their bodies of MS. One woman was carried in by her son. Now she walks
and works like any "normal" person. CS from what I understand does work
well, but may need to be complimented by other solutions. I still
believe exercise helps as well. Yoga certainly helps with muscle mind
co-ordination to help keep the connection between the two. I will keep
people posted on her progress when I see a significant difference in her
over all improvement. One thing I urge people to keep in mind with
regards to this particular disease. It affects everyone differently.
Many factors contribute to how people deal with MS and how "Their"
bodies heal from this disease. Perhaps CS is all that some need which is
great. But my sister..she is on a whole slue of ingredients to help her
come through this. I have to say she and I are lucky because her
condition isn't severe like most. She was told it could take up to 6
months to completely be free of it, Maybe more, because she isn't
following her regimen as closely as she should, namely her CS intake.
I make CS which is around 20-30 ppm on avg. thanks to "Ode's" machine.
:-) This is plenty from what I understand.
 
Thanks for allowing me this opportunity to share,
 
Ernie
 
-Original Message-
From: betty shelly [mailto:pigeon2...@cox.net] 
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 1:11 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>CS-MS
 
Thanks for all the kind replies to my post about my daughter's MS.  You
are right when you say the food is depleted of nutrients...it is.  She
is in CA and has access to a good deal of organic, has eliminated
"white" foods, soda, most meat, and wheat.  A complete change in diet is
necessary for health for everyone these days, not just for someone with
cancer, MS, diabetes, etc.  I am wondering about the people who have
recovered from MS with CS, tho', to stay on topic.  Could they be
misdiagnosed and have Lyme instead?  This would make more sense to me,
as it is a bacteria caused by the bite of the tick.  


Re: CS>CS-MS

2005-02-13 Thread noblemetals
I know this is an obvious question- but ,is she ingesting anything with 
aspertame in it?  Is she using anything with flourides in it?  TJ
> 
> From: "betty shelly" 
> Date: 2005/02/13 Sun AM 10:06:42 EST
> To: 
> Subject: CS>CS-MS
> 
> I have been a member of this list for over a year due to a very good friend 
> who makes CS and shared it with me.  I agree it works but have found it can 
> only heal what it can come in contact with in the body.  My enthusiasm for CS 
> was in its application for MS for my daughter.  I bought one of the Silvergen 
> products and began making CS.  After trying it for several things, I 
> recommended it to my daughter who also bought the same generator making CS at 
> 20 ppm.  She started out at 2 oz per day and increased it to a gallon a day 
> at times, always mixing it with hydrogen peroxide, as the gatorade had too 
> much sugar at those doses.  She had a couple of herx reactions followed by a 
> couple of days of feeling better, then the MS always returned.  She never 
> actually improved but has continued to get worse.  I'm sure you all know 
> Nancy on this list who has cured herself with CS.  She was in contact with my 
> daughter over the past year and recommended she try the Sovereign Silver, 
> which she did to no avail.  This list has some of the most intelligent and 
> helpful people I have ever come in contact with, and I don't want to 
> discourage anyone with MS from trying CS, but if any of you can give me 
> suggestions as to why it failed with my daughter, I would be open to hear it. 
>  MS has multiple causes and affects everyone differently.  Some of the most 
> effective treatments are not allowed in the US because of the FDA, but don't 
> want to get off topic here.  Thanks for listening.Cathy's Mom
> 



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RE: CS>CS-MS

2005-02-13 Thread Yogiboy
Hi folks,
Here is an interesting if scary article about mycoplasmoids.
http://tinyurl.com/4h8b9 But a better starting point if you want to
understand a far more reasonable 
view of pathology is here:
http://fablor.com/matrixide/  the beginnings of a complete Course 
understanding the Disease Industry.
Then come back here to the Silver OFF TOPIC list to discuss it. :-)

Himagain

This is from an earlier post. 

Hope this helps.

ernie

-Original Message-
From: Himagain [mailto:himag...@fablor.com] 
Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 5:32 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>CS-MS

At 01:06 AM 14/02/05, you wrote:
>This list has some of the most intelligent and helpful people I have
ever 
>come in contact with, and I don't want to discourage anyone with MS
from 
>trying CS, but if any of you can give me suggestions as to why it
failed 
>with my daughter, I would be open to hear it.  MS has multiple causes
and 
>affects everyone differently.  Some of the most effective treatments
are 
>not allowed in the US because of the FDA, but don't want to get off
topic 
>here.  Thanks for listening.Cathy's Mom

Hi there,
Anybody who is sick enough to develop Dibetes/CFS/MS/Cancer,  really 
doesn't have much choice today.  There ARE strong people around, but not

many under the age of 70 today.  The diet of the last half a century has

deteriorated to such a degree that getting GOOD food is now extremely 
difficult, but if your daughter is serious, it simply means developing 
self-discipline in the hardest to handle area of modern human 
existence:  eating.

There is a vast amount of literature out there on the subject, but 
essentially, in knowing nearly a thousand successful "terminal" Cancer 
patients,  it was found necessary to consider certain things as
dangerous 
as Spitting Cobras:
Anything white.  Sugar, flour, milk, bread, etc.
Anything "fast", or long storage capable.
Actually, if it is canned, packaged, frozen, "improved" you should avoid
it.
The idea is to go back to the diet of your great grandparents ( so long
as 
they weren't rich) and prepare everything at home that is possible.
Three vital ingredients to survive today's depleted earth:
1.  Sprouted seeds. ( Organic ones not sprouted with 
chlorinated/fluoridated water!)
2.  Home-made unleavened (flat) bread. Spelt flour by choice. Not as
corrupt.
3.  Kefir. ( Like Buttermilk)

Be responsible for yourself.  Stay away from Deadly Doctors.  Walk as
far 
as you can without stress, every day. Swimming is better (impossible to 
overdo it, ya sink!). Learn to google. Check everything from at least 3 
different sources.   Get outta town. Cities kill.

Not easy, but beats being in a wheelchair and then dead early.

Him - Already been there, done that!



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Re: CS>CS-MS

2005-02-13 Thread Himagain

At 01:06 AM 14/02/05, you wrote:
This list has some of the most intelligent and helpful people I have ever 
come in contact with, and I don't want to discourage anyone with MS from 
trying CS, but if any of you can give me suggestions as to why it failed 
with my daughter, I would be open to hear it.  MS has multiple causes and 
affects everyone differently.  Some of the most effective treatments are 
not allowed in the US because of the FDA, but don't want to get off topic 
here.  Thanks for listening.Cathy's Mom


Hi there,
Anybody who is sick enough to develop Dibetes/CFS/MS/Cancer,  really 
doesn't have much choice today.  There ARE strong people around, but not 
many under the age of 70 today.  The diet of the last half a century has 
deteriorated to such a degree that getting GOOD food is now extremely 
difficult, but if your daughter is serious, it simply means developing 
self-discipline in the hardest to handle area of modern human 
existence:  eating.


There is a vast amount of literature out there on the subject, but 
essentially, in knowing nearly a thousand successful "terminal" Cancer 
patients,  it was found necessary to consider certain things as dangerous 
as Spitting Cobras:

Anything white.  Sugar, flour, milk, bread, etc.
Anything "fast", or long storage capable.
Actually, if it is canned, packaged, frozen, "improved" you should avoid it.
The idea is to go back to the diet of your great grandparents ( so long as 
they weren't rich) and prepare everything at home that is possible.

Three vital ingredients to survive today's depleted earth:
1.  Sprouted seeds. ( Organic ones not sprouted with 
chlorinated/fluoridated water!)

2.  Home-made unleavened (flat) bread. Spelt flour by choice. Not as corrupt.
3.  Kefir. ( Like Buttermilk)

Be responsible for yourself.  Stay away from Deadly Doctors.  Walk as far 
as you can without stress, every day. Swimming is better (impossible to 
overdo it, ya sink!). Learn to google. Check everything from at least 3 
different sources.   Get outta town. Cities kill.


Not easy, but beats being in a wheelchair and then dead early.

Him - Already been there, done that!



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Re: CS>CS & MS

2005-02-13 Thread bob smith
Where is Dr. Dean located?  RES



- Original Message - 
From: "Nina Whit" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2005 7:39 PM
Subject: Re: CS>CS & MS


> Ward Dean MD has a IV CS protocol for MS.
> 
> 
> 


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Re: CS>CS-MS

2005-02-13 Thread scl...@netzero.net

 Has your daughter done any tests to see if there might be something in her 
diet bringing on the symptoms of MS. It has been said that artificial 
sweeteners like aspartame (Equal etc)can bring on MS in some people. If she 
hasn't checked that out, now might be a good time. If her MS symptoms are diet 
related than no amount of cs will cure it.


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Re: CS>CS & MS

2005-02-12 Thread Nina Whit
Ward Dean MD has a IV CS protocol for MS.


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Re: CS>CS & MS

2005-02-12 Thread Trem

Hi Mike,

I always recommend setting the dial to "High" which is around 20 PPM.

Best regards,

Trem 

- Original Message - 
From: "M. G. Devour" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2005 9:26 AM
Subject: Re: CS>CS & MS



Hi Trem,

Same request for you as for Terry: What are the production parameters 
of your generators?


Thanks you sir,

Mike D.


Hi Terry,

I too have had many customers with MS start drinking a pint or more
daily on an empty stomach start getting very good results.  Some have
left the wheelchairs, walkers and canes behind.  As far as they're
concerned it's a cure.  Of course their doctors call it something else.

I cannot tell how many have experienced relief because I do not keep
records of who took it and when.  But it has been quite a few.

I have no idea why it works but it does.

Best regards,

Trem Williams
customer_serv...@silvergen.com
www.silvergen.com

- Original Message - 
From: "TC" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2005 7:56 AM
Subject: CS>CS & MS


>I haven't been on the List for some time, being caught
> up in single-parenting, running my business, etc.
>
> I received a phone call yesterday from a woman who had
> struggled with MS for several years, it worsening
> progressively as time went on. She had pretty much
> given up on doctors when a friend of hers gave her a
> 2-liter bottle of my CS. She drank some each day (I'm
> not sure how much - she is writing me a testimony) for
> nearly a month. She said she started feeling better
> within the first week. Two days ago she went to see
> her doctor. He did an MRI and told her that he could
> find no trace of her MS. She asked him, "You mean my
> MS is gone?" He was evasive, but eventually, with her
> prodding him, admitted that, yes, her MS was gone, "so
> far".
>
> She called me to order 3 gallons of CS, with every
> intention of purchasing one of my 10-gallon-per-hour
> CS makers.
>
> The same day another lady (unrelated to the first)
> called to order 3 gallons of CS. She, too, had been
> drinking my CS and her MS was noticeably better. She
> was so excited, so giddy with hope. Her doctor had
> given her absolutely no hope.
>
> A lady in New Zealand, who bought one of my CS-making
> devices, has been freely giving it to her husband, who
> is in a wheelchair because of his MS. He has had an
> arm that he can't lift that is very sensitive and
> painful. After drinking CS freely for 3 - 4 weeks, the
> pain in his arm is gone. He can't lift the arm yet,
> but that's coming too.
>
> The application of generous quantities of CS for MS
> sufferers is turning out to be more effective than I
> had ever realized. A pint to a quart per day, with
> hydrogen peroxide added, is quite powerful.
>
> For those folks who are new to this list, I have a zip
> file I would be happy to send you that contains about
> 50 articles about CS usage around the world. It also
> contains some of the most recent research findings
> that show CS to 99%+ effective against malaria,
> tuberculosis and anthrax.
>
> Contact me by email off-list (msi...@yahoo.com) if you
> would like to receive this info file.
>
> I would also like to hear from other folks who have
> experienced success using CS against MS.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Terry Chamberlin
> Metabolic Solutions Institute
> RR1
> Lawrencetown, Nova Scotia B0S 1M0 Canada
> 902-584-3810
> msi...@yahoo.com
>
>
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Re: CS>CS & MS

2005-02-12 Thread Nenah Sylver

- Original Message - 
From: "Trem" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2005 12:18 PM
Subject: Re: CS>CS & MS


> Hi Terry,
>
> I too have had many customers with MS start drinking a pint or more daily on
> an empty stomach start getting very good results.  Some have left the
> wheelchairs, walkers and canes behind.  As far as they're concerned it's a
> cure.  Of course their doctors call it something else.
>
> I cannot tell how many have experienced relief because I do not keep records
> of who took it and when.  But it has been quite a few.
>
> I have no idea why it works but it does.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Trem Williams
> customer_serv...@silvergen.com
> www.silvergen.com


Perhaps I can help with "why" drinking CS works. From my research on Rife
technology: Tests done on the spinal fluid of people with multiple sclerosis
have shown a HIGH viral and even spirochete (bacterial) load. It's reasonable,
therefore, to assume that many cases of MS are due to microbial infections. Rife
technology, which is designed to kill microbes, does an admirable job. I've
received some positive feedback from people who have used the frequencies for MS
found in my Rife Handbook and have gotten better.

>From my research on sauna therapy: MS can also be catalyzed (or even caused!) 
>by
toxic chemical overload. Doctors are finding that when people with MS embark on
medically supervised sweat regimens, in the majority of cases they get better
(some having what some call "remissions"). Interesting tidbit: Even though many
people with MS are unable to sweat, gradual exposure to low-temperature far
infrared saunas will help the body *learn* to sweat. Of course, sauna therapy is
multi-faceted, since it also kills microbes directly and mobilizes the body to
eliminate pathogens as well as toxins such as heavy metals.

Nenah

Nenah Sylver, PhD
author, The Handbook of Rife Frequency Healing
and The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy
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Re: CS>CS & MS

2005-02-12 Thread Trem

Hi Terry,

I too have had many customers with MS start drinking a pint or more daily on 
an empty stomach start getting very good results.  Some have left the 
wheelchairs, walkers and canes behind.  As far as they're concerned it's a 
cure.  Of course their doctors call it something else.


I cannot tell how many have experienced relief because I do not keep records 
of who took it and when.  But it has been quite a few.


I have no idea why it works but it does.

Best regards,

Trem Williams
customer_serv...@silvergen.com
www.silvergen.com

- Original Message - 
From: "TC" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2005 7:56 AM
Subject: CS>CS & MS



I haven't been on the List for some time, being caught
up in single-parenting, running my business, etc.

I received a phone call yesterday from a woman who had
struggled with MS for several years, it worsening
progressively as time went on. She had pretty much
given up on doctors when a friend of hers gave her a
2-liter bottle of my CS. She drank some each day (I'm
not sure how much - she is writing me a testimony) for
nearly a month. She said she started feeling better
within the first week. Two days ago she went to see
her doctor. He did an MRI and told her that he could
find no trace of her MS. She asked him, "You mean my
MS is gone?" He was evasive, but eventually, with her
prodding him, admitted that, yes, her MS was gone, "so
far".

She called me to order 3 gallons of CS, with every
intention of purchasing one of my 10-gallon-per-hour
CS makers.

The same day another lady (unrelated to the first)
called to order 3 gallons of CS. She, too, had been
drinking my CS and her MS was noticeably better. She
was so excited, so giddy with hope. Her doctor had
given her absolutely no hope.

A lady in New Zealand, who bought one of my CS-making
devices, has been freely giving it to her husband, who
is in a wheelchair because of his MS. He has had an
arm that he can't lift that is very sensitive and
painful. After drinking CS freely for 3 - 4 weeks, the
pain in his arm is gone. He can't lift the arm yet,
but that's coming too.

The application of generous quantities of CS for MS
sufferers is turning out to be more effective than I
had ever realized. A pint to a quart per day, with
hydrogen peroxide added, is quite powerful.

For those folks who are new to this list, I have a zip
file I would be happy to send you that contains about
50 articles about CS usage around the world. It also
contains some of the most recent research findings
that show CS to 99%+ effective against malaria,
tuberculosis and anthrax.

Contact me by email off-list (msi...@yahoo.com) if you
would like to receive this info file.

I would also like to hear from other folks who have
experienced success using CS against MS.

Sincerely,

Terry Chamberlin
Metabolic Solutions Institute
RR1
Lawrencetown, Nova Scotia B0S 1M0 Canada
902-584-3810
msi...@yahoo.com




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Re: CS>CS & MS

2005-02-12 Thread M. G. Devour
Hi Trem,

Same request for you as for Terry: What are the production parameters 
of your generators?

Thanks you sir,

Mike D.

> Hi Terry,
> 
> I too have had many customers with MS start drinking a pint or more
> daily on an empty stomach start getting very good results.  Some have
> left the wheelchairs, walkers and canes behind.  As far as they're
> concerned it's a cure.  Of course their doctors call it something else.
> 
> I cannot tell how many have experienced relief because I do not keep
> records of who took it and when.  But it has been quite a few.
> 
> I have no idea why it works but it does.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Trem Williams
> customer_serv...@silvergen.com
> www.silvergen.com
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "TC" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2005 7:56 AM
> Subject: CS>CS & MS
> 
> 
> >I haven't been on the List for some time, being caught
> > up in single-parenting, running my business, etc.
> >
> > I received a phone call yesterday from a woman who had
> > struggled with MS for several years, it worsening
> > progressively as time went on. She had pretty much
> > given up on doctors when a friend of hers gave her a
> > 2-liter bottle of my CS. She drank some each day (I'm
> > not sure how much - she is writing me a testimony) for
> > nearly a month. She said she started feeling better
> > within the first week. Two days ago she went to see
> > her doctor. He did an MRI and told her that he could
> > find no trace of her MS. She asked him, "You mean my
> > MS is gone?" He was evasive, but eventually, with her
> > prodding him, admitted that, yes, her MS was gone, "so
> > far".
> >
> > She called me to order 3 gallons of CS, with every
> > intention of purchasing one of my 10-gallon-per-hour
> > CS makers.
> >
> > The same day another lady (unrelated to the first)
> > called to order 3 gallons of CS. She, too, had been
> > drinking my CS and her MS was noticeably better. She
> > was so excited, so giddy with hope. Her doctor had
> > given her absolutely no hope.
> >
> > A lady in New Zealand, who bought one of my CS-making
> > devices, has been freely giving it to her husband, who
> > is in a wheelchair because of his MS. He has had an
> > arm that he can't lift that is very sensitive and
> > painful. After drinking CS freely for 3 - 4 weeks, the
> > pain in his arm is gone. He can't lift the arm yet,
> > but that's coming too.
> >
> > The application of generous quantities of CS for MS
> > sufferers is turning out to be more effective than I
> > had ever realized. A pint to a quart per day, with
> > hydrogen peroxide added, is quite powerful.
> >
> > For those folks who are new to this list, I have a zip
> > file I would be happy to send you that contains about
> > 50 articles about CS usage around the world. It also
> > contains some of the most recent research findings
> > that show CS to 99%+ effective against malaria,
> > tuberculosis and anthrax.
> >
> > Contact me by email off-list (msi...@yahoo.com) if you
> > would like to receive this info file.
> >
> > I would also like to hear from other folks who have
> > experienced success using CS against MS.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Terry Chamberlin
> > Metabolic Solutions Institute
> > RR1
> > Lawrencetown, Nova Scotia B0S 1M0 Canada
> > 902-584-3810
> > msi...@yahoo.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: CS>CS & MS

2005-02-12 Thread M. G. Devour
Terry, could you also review for us the specifics of your production 
method, so those who want to could duplicate it, or evaluate your 
machines against others?

Thanks!

Mike D.



> I haven't been on the List for some time, being caught
> up in single-parenting, running my business, etc.
> 
> I received a phone call yesterday from a woman who had
> struggled with MS for several years, it worsening
> progressively as time went on. She had pretty much
> given up on doctors when a friend of hers gave her a
> 2-liter bottle of my CS. She drank some each day (I'm
> not sure how much - she is writing me a testimony) for
> nearly a month. She said she started feeling better
> within the first week. Two days ago she went to see
> her doctor. He did an MRI and told her that he could
> find no trace of her MS. She asked him, "You mean my
> MS is gone?" He was evasive, but eventually, with her
> prodding him, admitted that, yes, her MS was gone, "so
> far".

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Re: CS>CS MS cure

2004-07-14 Thread nancymike
I will send it to any one who contacts me at nancym...@prodigy.net
Nancy
  - Original Message - 
  From: bob smith 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 10:05 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>CS MS cure


  Nancy,
   I would like to add that my neighbor to whom I referred to is grateful 
for you publicizing your experience. Had I not seen your posts his would be a 
different story today.  Several have asked me for info on his protocol but I'm 
sure they would be better informed if they go to the archives and check your 
posts on MS.  Bob Smith

- Original Message - 
From: nancymike 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 12:51 AM
Subject: Re: CS>CS MS cure


I have written to this list on many occaions.  You can find it in the 
archives, but I will again off to send the short journal I kept while curing 
myself of MS with CS. I had MS since 1962 and by Aug 2000 I could barely get 
around.  Today I am 90% cured and I am better than I was 20 years ago.  I owe 
my new life to CS.
Nancy

  - 

Re: CS>CS MS cure

2004-07-14 Thread nancymike
Becky, send me your email and I will forward the info to you. 
nancym...@prodigy.net  Nancy
  - Original Message - 
  From: Becky Burns 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 5:43 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>CS MS cure


  I would be very interested in receiving a copy of this journal, or being 
given a link to it.   thanks
- Original Message - 
From: nancymike 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 1:51 AM
Subject: Re: CS>CS MS cure


I have written to this list on many occaions.  You can find it in the 
archives, but I will again off to send the short journal I kept while curing 
myself of MS with CS. I had MS since 1962 and by Aug 2000 I could barely get 
around.  Today I am 90% cured and I am better than I was 20 years ago.  I owe 
my new life to CS.
Nancy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Shirley Reed 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 11:11 AM
  Subject: CS>CS MS cure


Bob,  This is of great general interest, so can you please post the 
particulars on this list, or, if you decide on the OT list, let us know on this 
list so we will be sure not to miss it.  Congratulations on the achievement, 
both to the 'patient' and to you for your part in the cure.   pj


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Re: CS>CS & MS

2004-07-14 Thread Ode Coyote
  See 
http://msrebel.com/

At 11:12 AM 7/13/2004 -0400, you wrote:
>If possible i would like this info also I have a sister in law in a wheel
>chair from ms ty Jen
>- Original Message - 
>From: "Terry Chamberlin" 
>To: 
>Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 7:57 AM
>Subject: CS>CS & MS
>
>
>> bob smith said:
>> > I have a neighbor, about 40, who had MS for 6 years
>> when I started him on EIS. At that time he was
>> beginning to have serious difficulty.  This was a year
>> ago in March. By June he was showing definite
>> improvement and at this time his symptoms are gone. I
>> don't believe he has added H2O2 to the silver. >
>>
>> Bob, could you persuade your friend to write down his
>> experience using CS with his MS? How much, how often,
>> how long before he experienced improvement, what
>> reversals or setbacks he might have had, any
>> complimentary additional therapies, supplements, etc.
>>
>> Email me directly if you'd like.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Terry Chamberlin, B.Sc., C.N.C., Bioanalyst
>> Metabolic Solutions Institute
>> RR1
>> Lawrencetown, Nova Scotia B0S 1M0 Canada
>> 902-584-3810 voice/message
>> 413-826-7641 fax service
>> msi...@yahoo.com
>>


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Re: CS>CS MS cure

2004-07-14 Thread bob smith
Nancy,
 I would like to add that my neighbor to whom I referred to is grateful for 
you publicizing your experience. Had I not seen your posts his would be a 
different story today.  Several have asked me for info on his protocol but I'm 
sure they would be better informed if they go to the archives and check your 
posts on MS.  Bob Smith

  - Original Message - 
  From: nancymike 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 12:51 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>CS MS cure


  I have written to this list on many occaions.  You can find it in the 
archives, but I will again off to send the short journal I kept while curing 
myself of MS with CS. I had MS since 1962 and by Aug 2000 I could barely get 
around.  Today I am 90% cured and I am better than I was 20 years ago.  I owe 
my new life to CS.
  Nancy

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Re: CS>CS MS cure

2004-07-14 Thread Becky Burns
I would be very interested in receiving a copy of this journal, or being given 
a link to it.   thanks
  - Original Message - 
  From: nancymike 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 1:51 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>CS MS cure


  I have written to this list on many occaions.  You can find it in the 
archives, but I will again off to send the short journal I kept while curing 
myself of MS with CS. I had MS since 1962 and by Aug 2000 I could barely get 
around.  Today I am 90% cured and I am better than I was 20 years ago.  I owe 
my new life to CS.
  Nancy

- Original Message - 
From: Shirley Reed 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 11:11 AM
Subject: CS>CS MS cure


  Bob,  This is of great general interest, so can you please post the 
particulars on this list, or, if you decide on the OT list, let us know on this 
list so we will be sure not to miss it.  Congratulations on the achievement, 
both to the 'patient' and to you for your part in the cure.   pj



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Re: CS>CS MS cure

2004-07-13 Thread Christine Carleton
Maggie,

Thank you so much for the lovely cotton blankets.  I will certainly enjoy
them!
Also many thanks for the Vancouver Sun article.

You might find this interesting...
CS is Colloidal Silver -

Christine



From: "nancymike" 
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 00:51:10 -0500
To: 
Subject: Re: CS>CS MS  cure
Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com
Resent-Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 22:52:33 -0700


I have written to this list on many occaions.  You can find it in the
archives, but I will again off to send the short journal I kept while curing
myself of MS with CS. I had MS since 1962 and by Aug 2000 I could barely get
around.  Today I am 90% cured and I am better than I was 20 years ago.  I
owe my new life to CS.
Nancy

  


Re: CS>CS MS cure

2004-07-13 Thread nancymike
I have written to this list on many occaions.  You can find it in the archives, 
but I will again off to send the short journal I kept while curing myself of MS 
with CS. I had MS since 1962 and by Aug 2000 I could barely get around.  Today 
I am 90% cured and I am better than I was 20 years ago.  I owe my new life to 
CS.
Nancy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Shirley Reed 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 11:11 AM
  Subject: CS>CS MS cure


Bob,  This is of great general interest, so can you please post the 
particulars on this list, or, if you decide on the OT list, let us know on this 
list so we will be sure not to miss it.  Congratulations on the achievement, 
both to the 'patient' and to you for your part in the cure.   pj


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Re: CS>CS & MS

2004-07-13 Thread Jeanne Shuford
If possible i would like this info also I have a sister in law in a wheel
chair from ms ty Jen
- Original Message - 
From: "Terry Chamberlin" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 7:57 AM
Subject: CS>CS & MS


> bob smith said:
> > I have a neighbor, about 40, who had MS for 6 years
> when I started him on EIS. At that time he was
> beginning to have serious difficulty.  This was a year
> ago in March. By June he was showing definite
> improvement and at this time his symptoms are gone. I
> don't believe he has added H2O2 to the silver. >
>
> Bob, could you persuade your friend to write down his
> experience using CS with his MS? How much, how often,
> how long before he experienced improvement, what
> reversals or setbacks he might have had, any
> complimentary additional therapies, supplements, etc.
>
> Email me directly if you'd like.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Terry Chamberlin, B.Sc., C.N.C., Bioanalyst
> Metabolic Solutions Institute
> RR1
> Lawrencetown, Nova Scotia B0S 1M0 Canada
> 902-584-3810 voice/message
> 413-826-7641 fax service
> msi...@yahoo.com
>
>
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